Why haven't you preordered Ninja Gaiden 4 yet?
Regardless of how do you feel about Platinum and Ninja Gaiden, you need to prove that proper action games are profitable; you need to prove that Souls clones need to die.

i like character action games
i like souls
i don't preorder

>>714985238
>i like character action games and i like souls
Said by no one ever.
It's like claiming you're politically aligned to the left wing and the right wing at the same time.

sorry I don't like the Tokyo Ghoul dude. No buy for me.

>>714985173 (OP)
I don't preorder games but will get it on launch if it gets good reviews. I hope KT restrains some of PG's worst habits.

>>714985731
>"Please videogame industry, keep making rollsloppers"
This is how you sound

>>714985374
Nah not really. I liked all souls games, loved AI limit, stellar blade, MGRR, dmc3 and 5, some musou games and so on. Mind you I liked them as a whole package, not just going autistic about the combat system.
Also I'm asian so we have no concept of left and right politics.

>>714985374s
>direction brained retard can't fathom something as simple as liking two very different types of games
I am not surprised in the fucking slightest

>>714985989
Except those two types of games are complete opposite from every single standpoint; you can't like one without disliking the other.

>>714985173 (OP)
"We are going against the trend". - Yuji Nakao, Platinum games on Ninja Gaiden 4

Honestly one of the most based statements ever made. Reminder that not buying NG4 is a win for roll slop.

>>714986140
You're retarded and should kill yourself

>>714986140
No? Its like saying you cant like turn based rpgs if you like real time action rpgs. What kind of thinking is this? I love a vast amount of genres, ranging from crpgs to rts to grand strategy and base building sims.

>>714986368
dmc5 is the worst thing to happen to the series so of course a rollslop fag would like it

>>714986495
Alright well I'm not booting up my xbox to show my Bayonetta save or trying to even find my copy of NG2 so you can just keep huffing dick like the retarded faggot you are

>>714986449
>Its like saying you cant like turn based rpgs if you like real time action rpgs
Well, that was exactly the next example I was about to post.
Action RPG fans LOATHE the fuck out of turn-based RPGs and viceversa. They're another example of two genres that are naturally at odds to a point where no one who enjoys one can enjoy the other.

>>714986270
Don't forget Ni-oh 3; that game needs to fail so Koei Tecmo stops chasing the rollslopper money.

The optimal scenario would be NG4 being a commercial success and Ni-oh 3 bombing.

>>714985173 (OP)
>J-Action
fuck off you insufferable little cunt, nobody is using your faggy slang.

>>714985374
>>714986140
>you can't like one without disliking the other.
what the fuck? do you not like chill atmospheric games either because they're "the opposite" of action games? they're just games, dude. souls has cool shit in it, dmc has cool shit in it, sometimes I want to play one, sometimes I want to play the other, sometimes I eat spicy food and sometimes I eat sweet food, sometimes I watch Star Wars, sometimes I watch Star Trek, because I am a normal human being capable of liking many things. why the fuck are you treating games like a political opinion? is this what happens when you get terminally online and start obsessing over retarded fan wars and shitposts? you just forget that people are capable of liking more than one thing?

>>714985374
been a while since I've seen this particular bait posted

>>714987243
99% Nioh 3 will flop bigly.
A big part of the fanbase is negative towards the new changes like ninja mode and tying spells to yokai cores and all the normalfag reactions to the reveal were like "wtf is this trash, the graphics look like from 2004 fr fr".

>>714987797
>do you not like chill atmospheric games either because they're "the opposite" of action games?
Well, the people who like "comfy" games indeed despise "ADHD fests" like action games.

Are you a CEO or shareholder? It's the only explanation for someone to refuse to admit that people like some things and hate others and that "everything is for everyone".

>>714987320
j-action is the only viable term

>>714985954
rollsloppers don't make play as tokyo ghoul

>>714985965
>I liked all souls games, loved AI limit, stellar blade, MGRR, dmc3 and 5, some musou games and so on
sounds like you like bad games

>>714989982
Souls is also Japanese, dumbass. J-action is the absolute dumbest name for this genre that has ever been suggested.

>>714990297
>Souls
action rpgs retard bro

do you think NG4 might flop? Hardcore fans seem disappointed in the gameplay and presentation.

>>714990720
it will but because the game is too hardcore for normies

>>714990720
>Hardcore fans
like who?

>>714990867
the NG hardcore fans, they say that NG4 looks like Platinum game wearing the skin of NG.

>>714988129
>people are complaining about the good changes
Of course. But I bet hardly anyone is talking about how the lack of a mission structure will make the game worse.

>>714990720
Not flop but it won't sell trillions like boring souls like #578875458

>>714990720
it will nobody wants to play as the tokyo ghoul guy

>>714990720
I predict it will sell around 1 million and people will debate whether that constitutes a failure or not due to gamepass.

a new ng4 ryu clip and he still only has the sword and inferno
welcome back original ninja gaiden 3

>>714992068
all the animation and OT's look like they're straight from NG3. Even the extra costumes are from NG3.

I think that Chinese leaker was 100% correct, and I'm starting to feel like the Chinese leaker was from one of the studios Platinum outsourced parts of development to.

Will Ninja Gaiden 4 succeed where Devil May Cry 5 failed?

DMC5 ended being a wet fart industry-wise that was forgotten almost immediately, while Sekiro had such a heavy impact almost every single action game since then, from 2D metroidvanias to Soulslikes, decided to make parrying a central, if not the most important one, mechanic for their combat.

https://x.com/TeamNINJAStudio/status/1943018964981895436

Holy fuck what are these sounds? They sound god awful. I think literally all talent has left platinum because I don't know how they can't even accomplish something as simple as good sound fx

>>714992335
>Chinese leaker
First time I've hear about it. Would you like to share the leaks? Thanks in advance.

Recently played picrel and I just have to say: It's criminal how political discourse drowned actual gameplay discussion about it because frankly it's almost as good as NG and DMC and so much better than Bayonetta. In fact, I'd go as far as to say it's more deserving of being one of the faces of character action than Bayo.
If the sequel is somehow better I'd wager Stellar Blade might unironically become a new pillar of action games.

Ayo banger clip. I was scared shittles they would stop posting after the last one but happy to be proven wrong
>Stay tuned for more information about Ryu's other ninpo techniques.
BWAHAHAHAHA gotta commend the social media manager.

>>714992352
DMC is 50x more popular than NG. NG will fail.

If Team Ninja were the sole devs...maybe there's a chance they could've lit a real fire under the industrie's ass but platinum sure as hell aren't going to be the ones to make any impact.

>>714992518
>it's almost as good as NG and DMC
You're either a shill or a shitposter. Stellar Blade plays like shit.

>>714992454
This was spinoff turned sequel very late development.

Yaiba will have multiple weapons, and Ryu will only have Katana with different skins.

Team Ninja gave access to NG3 animations to Platinum to help with flesh out Ryu

Is this a bot thread?

>playing chapter 9 on mentor in vanilla 2
>hate every second
>been miserable playing this difficulty since I finished chapter 2
Yeah I don't know if I'm gonna stick through all the way to the end of Mentor let alone Master Ninja. There's only so much annoyance I am willing to put up with.

>>714985374
gameplay-wise jetstream on revengeance difficulty and sekiro are spiritually aligned

>>714985173 (OP)
>you need to prove that proper action games are profitable; you need to prove that Souls clones need to die
Regardless of how you feel about souls clones, they simply provide a far better control scheme than older action games and this alone makes them far more popular and easier to get in.

>>714992786
I wonder who the hell was pushing for it to be a "true" sequel then. If this was a spinoff and seen as a lower budget title, I would be more forgiven because it would mean there's the possibility of a real sequel in the future but that's thrown out the window. Any titles after will have to be seen as a continuation of the retarded shit from Platinum. There is no future here. At BEST a remake of NG1, not that we should even want one.

>>714993027
The fuck
Sam is all about charge attacks, dodges and damage buff from taunt
While sekiro is nothing but a perfect guard spamfest with occasional special dodges

>>714992786
>ng4
>yaiba
????

>>714993282
Just ChatGPT things.

>>714993027
They are literally nothing alike

>>714993282
Yakumo got it mixed up

>>714993134
>>714993352
nah they're spiritually aligned, die fast, kill faster, you're probably both casuals that haven't even beat vr04 on rev

>>714993429
My dick is physically aligned with your mouth

>>714992518
The game has nothing on Bayonetta except graphical fidelity. Which is wasted on a generic artstyle.

>>714993127
Probably Phil, It seems Xbox is under a lot of pressure since they spent a lot of money buying half the games industry.

>>714993002
This is the problem with OG NG2 is that you'll quickly learn that if you try to play the game like an actual action game or even just NG1 you will constantly get your ass kicked. The game will seem excessively hard.

If you have more knowledge of the game and seen how other people play however....you'll quickly realize that the only way NG2 wants you to play is spamming the hell out of GT, launchers, and any high delimb moves your weapon might have then spending it on UTs. Even on the base difficulty the game constantly feels like it's pushing you to fight bullshit with more bullshit and it's just not fun. NG2 weapons are INCREDIBLY fun in isolation, they have a lot of moves with cool effects and animations....but in practice you're pretty much never using those because they either take too long leaving you vulnerable or they're just not as efficient at killing.

I find it extremely shameful for something like the claws, which have a handful of really lengthy strings but it has some of the highest delimb rates and one of the best delimb moves in the game so where the FUCK did they expect you to pull those strings off and for it to matter?

>>714993689
>where the FUCK did they expect you to pull those strings off
did you watch the webm you just posted? retard

>>714991427
I've always feel like the only person who loved the mission structure and how flexible it makes the game.
Everyone else couldn't shut up about "muh open world", "muh interconnected world" so it was natural that KT would eventually cave.

At least we got two good games out of it.

>you can dodge cancel ut charges now
lmao, nice baby game platinum
https://x.com/incneet/status/1943027684038078846

>>714993878
did you? he delimbs before half the string is even finished

>>714993964
What makes you think he was charging UT?

>>714993429
You're not killing anything fast in sekiro besides shitter enemies that literally die from a single parry

>>714992379
observations
>this is clearly some sort of arena/survival mode side game and not the main story
>like 3 enemies attacking at the same time in the end, they seem aggressive as fuck
>Sword only is pretty much 99.9% confirmed at this point

>>714993689
I'm not having trouble with the actual combat encounters at all, save for the camera fucking me during boss fights with mooks. It's pretty much every encounter that tries to do some kind of gimmick that is just annoying. I'd take the church fight 100 times over shooting the bow at those retarded rocket spamming cyborg fags that float over the water. They take twenty-fucking-two arrows to kill and good luck charging a shot off for extra damage in that encounter.

>>714994245
ok so you're bad at sekiro, got it

>>714993964
>some literal thirdworlder who can't even speak coherent english
nice source

>>714988129
>A big part of the fanbase is negative towards the new changes like ninja mode
Team Ninja actually cares about community feedback and that's been at the top of the list. They've announced that there will be something where they will directly respond to feedback.

And people aren't mad about ninja mode, as ninja mode does not affect the core gameplay itself. Samurai mode is better than ever and there is nothing that forces you into ninja mode. Fans are just expecting more depth out of ninja mode. Also some fans are upset about no yokai abilities but they can eat a fat dick because that mechanic was broken but it's replaced by guardian spirit skills anyways so not even a big deal. Magic fags can fuck themselves too.

Nioh 3 has a great style tho, I haven't really seen much complaints from normaloids. They shat on ronin because it was full open world and was depicting realistic environments so the lower level of detail was more apparent but anyone can drop into the demo, get that first vista, and think it looks dope even tho it's not graphically impressive.

>>714986140
lol wtf, ofc you can

>>714988129
>A big part of the fanbase is negative towards the new changes like ninja mode
No need to make shit up anon

https://x.com/NaytNY/status/1941499983754334667

>>714986140
>>714989059
>you can't like classical orchestral and lo-fi grunge they're polar opposites
least direction-brained /pol/erider

>>714994604
>Fans are just expecting more depth out of ninja mode.
This.

Nioh 3 looks great and there's real potential for it to be better than 2. Hopefully tn take on board criticisms regarding open field.

>>714986140
How autistic do you need to be to sincerely believe this

>>714994601
Reminds me of something a friend told me: Americans make movies, videogames, comics, TV shows, etcetera based on their own historical figures and historical events because there is money to be made from it and only idiotic third worlders like us act offended about "disrespecting our culture" while missing on said business opportunities.

>>714994965
There is no way to fix open field without remaking the game from scratch; Nioh 3 will be shit for that reason alone.

People here shat (rightfully) on Elden Ring due to the open world being completely detrimental only to defend Nioh 3 making the same game-killing mistake. You indeed only pretend to like Nioh because it gives you a convenient anti-From Software weapon.

>>714994965
If they can nail Ninja Mode and give us more new enemies and great bosses. It will probably be amazing but ninja mode is a thorn in the games side, as it is both incredibly useful and painfully simple. It's like going into "hack n slash" mode where you don't really need to think much beyond very easy dodging. Ninjutsu weren't particularly fun to use either but again are very good and easy to use as projectiles

>>714995251
people here are contrarians who shit on everything they can because disliking x is their personality

>>714995251
ERs open world is not comparable to Nioh 3's open fields.

FromSoft used to be known for their level design. It's the one thing that turned the souls games from 5/10 to 9/10 games so them doing open world is a pure betrayal of that. The game itself was just insanely insanely bloated with nothing of real substance. Souls games constantly throw new enemies at you when entering new areas but that's not the case so much in ER and then you get to the "legacy dungeons" and the level design is just terrible or at best, boring.

Nioh isn't known for amazing level design....but despite that there was more thought put into level design in the open fields than the majority of ERs fields. There's a lot more structure than you would expect and decent things to do. Any areas that are open and empty exist for side missions or for the spawnable bloodege demon. On top of that the alpha still has actual missions. I have no doubt in my mind some of the open field locations will be re-used for closed off missions to fight waves of enemies or bosses and then of course they still have traditional levels in the form of the crucibles.

They got a lot right this time around, I love Rise of the Ronin but it definitely had a lackluster open world and level design wasn't much of a consideration (though part of that is due to them trying to recreate real life towns and locations) so it's nice to see some big improvements in 3. I have 0 issues with them going open world especially since, again, they still have replayable missions

>>714985374
I beat DMC release year and I also beat every souls game on release year. Why are /v/ posters so retarded?

>>714995821
>This wall of text is just anon confirming my post
See?

Just noticed Ryu is still holding the sword in his left hand while casting ninpo. Absolute boss holy fricking shit...

>>714995995
cope more

>>714995995
his post was pretty good and sensible tho

I don't preorder games.
I don't like any of the 3D Ninja Gaiden games but I do like most of Platinum Games' work.
I am buying Ragebound.
Nioh 2 is a good game and I'm excited for Nioh 3.
Assuming NG4 is actually fun unlike NG1-3 I'll buy it.

>>714995251
I don't care about fromsoft nor do I play their boring ass games. Open world sucks in any capacity for an action game and it was a big detractor of rise of the ronin for me despite enjoying everything else about the game. Best we can hope for if they stick to open field is the areas being smaller and just interconnected corridors littered with enemies.

>>714995314
If they can scale enemies' response to match your ability to just spam attacks in ninja like crazy I imagine it could work but it would take effort. I think giving enemies larger movesets than what we saw in nioh 2 could also work

>>714996106
No it wasn't. It was exactly what I claimed:
>"It's okay when someone who isn't From Software does it, it's not okay when From Software does it".
When Elden Ring was announced I shat on it because open world is an inherently flawed concept and the replies from the From Software fans were exactly the same:
>"Ubisoft / Bethesda do open world wrong, based From Software will make it right, they have the power".

At the end I'll simply watch another series being ruined by open world. Isn't Resident Evil 9 open world too? I expect the same "Communism has never been truly tried" posts defending open world.

>>714995892
It's the next /pol//console warring psy op narrative by Israeli posters and MOSAD agents. It's gay way to distract from the actual problems in gaming and keep us retarded.

>>714994005
That conversion into an OT was so bad lmao

>>714996552
>It was exactly what I claimed:
>>"It's okay when someone who isn't From Software does it, it's not okay when From Software does it".
you are retarded

>>714995821
>one of the best open worlds in all of gaming
>bad
I don't think Elden Ring is very good because it inherited the shitty gameplay of Souls but it's pretty wild to see people complaining about one of the best parts of the game. I hadn't played any open world slop in a few years leading up to it so maybe I didn't have open world exhaustion when I played it?

And he is using the regular DS in the new clip? Uh oh doomsisters I thought he was gonna get the hoes treatment? This is your last chance to apologize, pre-order the game and contribute to the genocide of gaza.

>>714996720
>bad
Yes. Open world is a concept that is rotten to its core by nature; like gacha.

Normalfags never getting tired of it is no coincidence.

>>714985173 (OP)
the term is JAV (Japanese Action Videogame)

>>714996720
>>one of the best open worlds in all of gaming
Once the new game smell wears off, it's genuinely incredibly boring

>>714996552
You are an idiot and have the reading comprehension of a baby.

You are boiling my point down to confirm your own bias. I point out why it was correct to shit on ER for going open world and partly why it ended up as a shitty open world. I point out why it's not applicable to Nioh 3. You're not addressing any of the points made because you're just a shitposter who has nothing better to do in your life. You don't want actual discussions or reasonable arguments. You just want to waste your time hating on things you don't even understand.

>>714996720
There is nothing interesting about it's open world. Visually, there are some cool things but mechanically it's shit. Exploration is often not rewarding. You see so many repeated enemies even dozens of hours deep into the world. The game has no balance for progression. The game is so big that RPG mechanics fall apart about half way in when you have so many levels you really don't have much to strive for. There just isn't really any meaningful content in the actual open world, everything meaningful is found in dungeons both small and big and castles. It also has one of the most annoying open worlds to ever navigate, often either being confusing or making you go all the way around a very long path to get to somewhere. The map can at times feel useless because there are inaccessible areas that sometimes require you to progress way into some other place very far off that you might not find until dozens of hours later just to lazily find a teleporter that takes you to that inaccessible area.

If you were put under a spell and enjoyed the open world....good for you but that doesn't mean it's well done and it most certainly does no favors for dark souls style gameplay

>>714997567
>You are boiling my point down to confirm your own bias.
You're defending open world, you're defending Nioh 3 going open world. You yourself confirmed everything I said.

>>714997236
i really like open worlds as a world design concept but i wish they were all still designed, progression-wise, as level/hallway based
daggerfall had the right idea and i won't ever go back on that, a massive world as set dressing to set the scale, and you technically could walk around it, but you're not expected/intended to and that's made clear to you from the start, just travel to the story places and enjoy the story but you know the world isn't just a tiny themepark it actually has scale

>714997720
You fail to engage with any of my points. Kill yourself

>>714995821
>ERs open world is not comparable to Nioh 3's open fields.
This looks to be the case. Unfortunately don't have a ps5 so haven't played the alpha (maybe pc will get lucky with a beta) but from watching lots of footage the nioh 3 open fields look like bigger versions of levels from 2. Frankly I hope they scale them down even more and really up the enemy density. Ronin suffers due to everything just being too sparse. I shouldn't have to look for a fight.

Are you excited for year of the Ninja?

>>714996901
Also the hook is in, you can see all the grappling points. Sayonara bow I will miss you. Maybe they can still give him windmill shuriken.

>>714993002
Imagine getting filtered by fucking mentor... is what I would say if I didn't recently learn that it only has a 1.5% completion rate. Really wierd since mentor isn't even that hard. Anyways, no shame in throwing in the towel and admitting you're not good enough to beat it on mentor.

>>714997828
There's nothing to engage. Open world is absolutely indefensible and trying to do it demonstrates how you're willing to defend a ruined game because you have another company and its games that much.

By doing the "not directly citing the post" you're conceding: you're afraid of engaging me.

>>714993689
All these words to tell other people you couldn't even beat mentor. Maybe you should go back to god of war where you can spam square to beat the game.

>Action game thread
>Look in thread
>MUH OPEN WORLD

>>714999265
>Open world is absolutely indefensible
Easy to say when you won't actually engage in a real argument addressing someone's points lol

>>714999420
It's to be expected in a genre where tight and intentional level design is important. Giant open spaces are the antithesis of good level design.

>>714999697
The vast amounts of action games don't have level design anon, it's literally corridors

>>714999534
When someone defends gacha by citing "points" like
>"it's actually generous"
>"you don't need to grind too much"
>"As long as you do your dailies..."
You don't address those points because gacha is a vile, predatory business model no matter what. It's the same for open world.

>>714999773
>corridors aren't real level design
How stupid can you be? That's like saying beat em ups don't have level design.

>>714985374
>>714986140
liking ninja gaiden and hating everything else is not a personality

>>715000041
Corridors are not fucking level design you idiot. You move from one end to the next, there's no level design no obstacles, no interesting features maybe a different background

>This straight line with nothing else? Yep. That's a real level

>>714999773
>>715000285
That guy is a retard but he isn't 100% wrong.
Action games may be corridors leading to arenas that lead to corridors that lead to arenas but they do have a very focused, specific form of level design in the form of encounter design, encounter setpieces and difficulty progression.
Open world is the anti-thesis of that because you're intended to be able to "go everywhere and do everything".

>>714992352
DMC5: 102k overwhelmingly positive reviews
NG2black and NG master collection: <3k mostly positive reviews

assuming you're not just baiting what the fuck do you think?

>>715000175
Ninja gaiden is the only action game

>>715000459
were you trying to greentext that or something? if you ask the fags who whine in these threads>>714992352
yes >>714986495

>>714999697
>where tight and intentional level design is important.
Dude you are talking out of your ass if you think most games in this genre have "tight" level design lmao.

>>714999773
And that's why Ninja Gaiden 2 is the GOAT. There's enemies around every corner.

>>714999818
Bringing up gacha is pointless. Your argument here is the same as going "Hitler liked cats, so if you like cats then you're exactly like hitler".

You've failed yet again. Get a life. Last reply from me unless you want to start addressing anything I said (you won't because you have negative IQ)

>>715000285
Enemies are a part of level design. Beat Em Ups can often beat actual action games in that department despite being way more transparent in most levels just being corridors because what enemies come in, when, and where is actual level design. Not to mention that beat em ups will often have hazards and weapon pick ups scattered about.

Most action games don't go farther than picking what enemies will appear in a room. Doesn't apply to all of them but typically if a game has more going on with level design, it's because it's directly taking from beat em ups or the game has other things to support level design i.e. ninja gaiden has wall running and wall jumping and at least in NG1, there was a lot of variety in the areas you fought in that made you pay attention to how you moved.

>>714999115
I was thinking about it and while it would depend on how they want to incorporate grappling during air combos they could simply just use that as a bow replacement, it wouldn't even need to pull them to you. That or maybe a one button solution could work, press it once to fire and hold it to go into aiming mode then release to fire. With that tease on the Ninpo and how fast he seems to go into it they might be expanding on that a lot more this time too.

>>714994005
>4 enemies attacking at the same time

LETS FUCKING GO

>>714999156
Have you played it recently? Getting rocket spammed around every corner because mentor is loaded with tac ninjas is tedious. Difficulty has nothing to do with it, it's just annoying to play. If I'm not having fun what is the point?

>>715002508
not that anon but I'm playing through Master Ninja on 2 Black atm and finding it way less annoying than Mentor somehow. There are more incendiary shuriken ninjas but feels like way fewer rocket launcher dudes. And shit like blue dogs/fiends still kill you instantly in both difficulties anyway so it's not like the damage difference matters.

>>715002785
I'm playing vanilla 2 on a 360 and between that annoyance and the crashes that have happened more than once really just kill the drive to keep playing, y'know? I already went through Mentor and MN on Sigma 2 both on the ps3 when it came out and on Master Collection, no experience with mods though. Mentor was more annoying than MN in S2 as well.

>>715002785
The character models in this game look so good. Probably the best I have seen.

>>715002508
You can use incendiary shurikens to neuter the rocket barrage guys. Doesn't work with the other singular-rocket guys though IIRC.

>>714992518
Terrible fucking bait. And if it isn’t, you should feel bad for having anything positive to say about this simon-says dogshit action game.

>>715003409
>update the game to put photo mode in it
>don't enable it in tag missions where the best opportunities for screenshots will be
every time Team Ninja does something good it's like they have to do something a little shit to go along with it

>>715003859
Yeah. The first thing I did when they dropped photo mode was try and take some Ryu+Rachel pictures only to find it was for single player only.

Dumb as hell.

>>714990720
>Hardcore NG2 'fans'
ftfy

>>714994394
>shooting the bow at those retarded rocket spamming cyborg fags that float over the water
He doesn't know

>>715002083
Yeah there are plenty of ways to integrate it. I don't see much value in the regular bow shot when you aren't airborne so maybe just remove it outright so going into FP is instant on the ground, and it'd preserve some of the state-changing tech from 3RE. Anyway I just played some Kasumi and the windmill is so sick and I love how you can "guide" it a bit on the way back, I shouldn't get too excited just yet but it coming back would be great.
I wonder if the aura before he goes into Ninpo signifies anything or it's just a fancy effect.

>>714999079
No one here cleared this shit

>>714994394
Yeah the bosses are seriously awful for that alone. I don't know why so many games back then struggled with cameras for at LEAST boss fights, which are almost always in simple arenas. The camera should be at it's absolute best and easiest to control but nope. Not just NG but pretty much every other action game around that time.

>>715008441
Made up stats, shinobi and nightshade aren't ported anywhere, they're stuck on PS2. They have no achievements.

Do I try to learn NG2 properly or do I try to see how long I can go beating the game with GT, talon forward+Y, and landing UT

>>715009047
These games are about mastering combat. Go play retard souls if you just want to beat a game.

>>715009047
>GT, talon forward+Y, and landing UT
That is playing properly. Don't forget talon flying swallow izuna drop.

>>715009151
That is mastering combat. Only thing you can really add is the occasional counter vs some enemies and flying swallow. Don't forget there's no penalty to using ninpo either!

>>715008785
>not modern multiplatform ports
Same for Viewtiful Joe and NG2. Do those not count?

>>715009389
Kys zoomer

>>715009401
NG2 has actual achievements retard. You can track achievements for modern games but a PS2 game that has no ports obviously has no cheevos other than in-game saves that show them being beaten but even that is meaningless because people can download saves

>>715009561
Okay if you're so skilled at NG2 then give a player tips and not shit that everyone knows about NG. NG2 specific shit only

>>715010565
Practice dumb nigger

>>715008441
Finished
>all of the soulshit + nioh 2 + sifu
>bayo on nsic + as, cuphead, dmc4 vanila on dmd + bp, mgr
>dmc 1-3, 5 on dmd + bp 2,3,5, ngb/ngs on mn + ng3re on UN, god hand
>ng2 on MN

Does anyone have that webm from razors edge showing all the combos?

>>715010478
People download saves for all of these games already. By your standards none of these are correct.

>>715010723
poser

>>715011442
Do you mean the movelist or something?

Breakdown of the new NG footage

https://youtu.be/F4Bh3Vt_llU

Seriously the camera in 2 is so bad in some of these levels and combine that with some levels making you fight in really tight spaces for no fucking reason or in some cases over pits that make you spend 15~ seconds getting back up to where the enemies are sitting. Not fun.
Didn't have this issue as much in NG1 because most of the areas are more open and there are less enemies. I've gotten hit by off screen enemies so much it's absolutely retarded .

>>715014313
>camera
Is this the biggest brainlet filter of all time?

>>715014313
You'll never be a master ninja

>>715008441
every thread these numbers get pointed out as fake. idk why you keep posting it. the clear rate for way of the demon in nioh 2 is like 5% on steam and that's not even the highest difficulty. meanwhile the clear rate for razors edge ultimate ninja is 3.5% on steam and 0.6% on 360 (where it is actually lower than ng2 lmao)

>>715014416
The camera is fine in NG1 and even NG3 but the camera sucks dick in 2. Too many enemies on screen coming from all angles or like I said, some of these arenas are absolutely terrible to fight in. Not to mention screenshake or camera zoom ins from certain moves.

i decided to play his games after seeing him in nocturne

anyone looking forward to final fantasy aside?

>>715014687
>Too many enemies
>screenshake or camera zoom
That's the entire game. NG2 is all about UT spamming the hordes of enemies.

>>715014671
Unless we can gather total player numbers for every platform. Then this shit is useless. The percentages isn't enough to go on.

>>715014985
Yang bing is based but it took too long

>>715014313
>I've gotten hit by off screen enemies so much it's absolutely retarded
Shouldn't have stood still

>>715014003
>likes 3re and shows genuine excitement for ng4
huge yikes, where's my speculating grift content with ai generated thumbnails?
>@BayonettaStuff 1 hour ago
The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point.jpg

>>715014985
what the fuck is this?

Don't get the point of making these threads daily when it's always the same 3 to 5 posters saying the same thing every single day, with people like the Itagaki avatarfag and some other guy treating these threads like some kind of Discord server. It's not like there's anything to be for excited for on the horizon unless you somehow care about NG4. Just move to /vg/ at this point. These threads have about the same level of quality as the average general there.

>>715017343
https://tenor.com/view/ninja-gaiden-ryu-hayabusa-doa-ayane-itagaki-gif-10217548664521769182
embed fail

>>715016872
lost soul aside. been in production for...idk 10 years?? lol guy wanted to make ff15 but more action based. coming out next month finally

>>715017343
Why does seeing these threads upset you. There are much worse threads to be bitching about on /v/

>>715019345
Discord nigger is upset that NG 4 looks good so of course he's begging to stop the count

I don’t think NG4 looks good, at all. it’s a new release so that’s something but considering how DMC5 looked (very good) and the fact DMC6 is being worked on for PS6 as we speak I wouldnt be excited about how NG4 looks

>>715019345
because its daily generals
fuck off to /vg/
>but what about
those too should fuck off

>>715021301
There are worst threads that get spammed here daily and you want to bitch about the one that's about actual video games.

>>715020689
>DMC5 looked (very good)
Lmao

>>715021790
Literlaly the best looking action game there is.

>>715024223
NG2B looks miles better either way

Bayo 4 will be open world

>>715026809
Platinum is going bankrupt when NG4 flops.

>>715008441
>untouchable influence on video games
>generational inspiration across multiple eras
>success in the stratosphere; will never die out
Tetris CHADS, why are we so much more superior than action babbies?

>>714990720
There's no excitement from normalfags but maybe asmon can save I if he boots it up day one and dickrides it

>>715028582
all I remember about his is bitching about wo long and giving up on the first boss lmao

>>714993002
My enjoyment of mentor started after chapter 2. Everything after that Rasetsu mid boss is smooth sailing. Although I spent more time than I'd like to admit on the ToVs.

Why does Itagaki love the fucking bow so much? Why is he obsessed with 3rd person shooting mechanics? It was annoying in NG1 and he doubled down on it even further in NG2. Just so many sections where you're just using the bow in very boring and time consuming shooting sections. Both sigmas had to fix this shit in their respective game

>>714985173 (OP)
Most of the staff who worked on the original Ninja Gaiden games aren’t working on 4.
Also, since I’m an outsider, what’s the actual best Ninja Gaiden games?

>>714994965
Nioh 3 is open world so it's staring wayyyy behind Nioh 2. It has to have god gameplay to catch up

>>715029028
>Most of the staff who worked on the original Ninja Gaiden games aren’t working on 4.
No shit retard Platinum Games are the main ones making it

I know people here don’t like them for some reason but after Sekiro and E33 I think basically every action game needs a parry. Such a fun system.

>>715029216
It's not open world

>>715029005
Not to mention gunning down fish.

>>715029387
parry systems like that are for mindless drones.
If you want a real challenge that requires timing button presses to something on screen, play a real rhythm game or a shmup

>>715029430
Are you going to say RotR isn't open world too?

>>715029387
I hate you and people like you. Suffer and die!

>>715029713
Disingenuous comparison

>>715029005
yeah the bow is pretty shit, I think third person shooting mechanics don't work in fast paced action games unless it has auto aim like in S2 or 3RE

what is the single worst boss in the genre?

>>715030498
toss up between nNghtmare in DMC1 or Arkham in 3

>>715030648
Holy shitter

>>715029690
Never said I wanted a challenge. I said they were fun. Just like in stellar blade. Playing that game with a PS5 controller is so satisfying with the haptic feedback feature. Sony did real good on the sound design of the parries.

>>715030498
Arkham in dmc3, nightmare in dmc1, final boss in 3RE, Alma in sigma on master ninja, so awful

>>715030692
check out slot machines, they sound right up your alley :)

>>715030772
Slot machines are rng. Parries are reflex based.

>>715030838
similar amount of skill required desu

Lessons RealAction(tm) games can learn from fromsoft

>asset flip to shorten the duration between releases but still make them distinct enough to market instead of letting IPs just die
>get rid of difficulty settings, give them a hard game as intended but
>onboard new players by challenging them to not be a newfag and have a framework in place where the player can get good, like a fun and meaningful grind with a sense of discovery to keep them going, and when they beat the game they will feel accomplished and it will trick them into thinking they no longer suck in life

I must be missing somethings here too

>>715031216
You're either saying start the game on DMD or remove DMD, so I think what you're missing is a brain.

>>715031216
>>get rid of difficulty settings, give them a hard game as intended but
secondary opinion
>>onboard new players by challenging them to not be a newfag and have a framework in place where the player can get good
action games are already challenging, good ones especially

>>715031390
>action games are already challenging, good ones especially
Not really. In dark souls, a basic hollow can kill you in 3 hits if you let them. Basic mobs in most action games take forever to kill you because theyre there for you to style on them.

'member back in the day when DMC3 was considered one of the hardest games ever, good times...

Went back to Godhand, trying it on PCSX2 at 1080p and the game is still peerless within its genre as far as Im concerned. A toast!

>>715031503
Three swings is an exaggeration, and they are pretty slow and fragile too, in action games there's also more enemies in general and higher difficulties replace default scrubs with harder enemies, idk, seems like you only played dmc5 on normal and that's it

Haha! Jambón!
When Dante said that I know it tim

>>715031356
Difficulty should scale with each new game+ and you earned the right to play the next level up. And instead of naming the save file new game+++ name it something edgelord like Hellblade each time. Simpletons like you would eat it up just over file names. Difficulty options are for newfags

>>715031390
Something fromsoft does really well is fine tune to the universal user as tough but fair. Sure if you have experience in X you might be better off in Y and if it’s your first you might ragequit but it’s never that easy and almost never impossible to anyone

>>715031667
Reminiscing the good old boomer days? And let me guess, you hate DmC right?

>>715032819
>replace the difficulty level with... difficulty levels with extra steps
>can't do a fresh start on the hardest difficulty without replaying every lower difficulty
You are retarded, stop trying to force fromsoft's shit onto other games for no fucking reason.

>>715032237
Have you not played a fromsoft game? When you start you are weak as a kitten. 3 swings is not an exaggeration. Once you level up you can play with them when you come back to the area so you feel very bad ass. It’s part of their dopamine scam formula and it works

>>715032957
Not if the game is difficult to begin with. Whatever man stop lashing out because you want to keep your cherished easy setting, fag

>>715032237
Maybe in 1 but starting from DaS3 basic mobs have long flailing attack combos that stagger you to death if you get caught up in them.

>>715031216
>>asset flip to shorten the duration between releases but still make them distinct enough to market instead of letting IPs just die
Dumb fucking retard a lot of games do that, not just action games. Fucking retard thinks fromsoft are the only devs to flip assets between games lmfao
>get rid of difficulty settings, give them a hard game as intended but
Holy retard. Yeah man difficulty settings are truly the barrier stopping action games from being more popular yeah, people need to be thrown into the hardest difficulty possible!!!!!!!!!!
>Last post
ACTION GAMES ALREADY DO THAT YOU FUCKING RETARD HOLY FUCKING KILL YOURSELF

>>715033241
Ok, now back to your soulslop little piggy.

So, what are some good action games I can try out to get into the genre? Been interested in the genre for a while now.

>>715033338
Cope. There's a reason most of these games are financial flops. Watch as NG4 sells much worse than Lies of P or Stellar Blade.

>>715032819
>Something fromsoft does really well is fine tune to the universal user as tough but fair.
they don't fine tune anything, the baseline combat system is so simple a monkey can beat nearly any challenge from throws at you, and enemies in levels are so braindead you can run past them for free, the only downside being you don't get souls from them

>>715033493
DMC3-5 (1 is good but not really in the subgenre)
Ninja Gaiden 1-3
Bayonetta 1

>>715033493
Buy collections on sale. Cheap and one should be enjoyable.

I'm looking forward to Ragebound more than Ninja Gaiden 4. The demo was tight, especially on hard mode.

>>715033586
>not really in the subgenre
Elaborate

>>715033159
I guess it was pretty long, I just don't remember having issues with starting areas whatsoever

>>715033683
It's a simpler action game that helped lay the groundwork for these kinds of games, but doesn't really fit with them. 2 is hot garbage though.

>>715033683
the game was initially made as a mainline resident evil, but later was changed to be more action focused
>>715033493
dmc3, dmc reboot, ng1 and 2, bayo 1, mgr

>>715033338
>people need to be thrown into the hardest difficulty possible!!!!!!!!!!
Yes it’s a big part of the reason why fromsoft games are popular, people feel like they are good at games when they beat them
>ACTION GAMES ALREADY DO THAT
No they don’t. Action games have an easy setting. Too many people adjust to their liking to cruise through, have an inadequate experience and they talk shit about how the game sucks. That’s why the lack of difficulty options is good, you control the game experience as you intended. Difficulty options are meant to change the game 0 to 10, it will cause someone to think the game sucks when you let them play the shitty version and give them that choice freely

>>715033493
Nioh 2
Sekiro

>>715033930
>Yes it’s a big part of the reason why fromsoft games are popular, people feel like they are good at games when they beat them
action games aren't as simple as press x to dodge and press y to punish, they take much more skill and knowledge to play, so you can't make someone try dmd or master ninja on their first playthrough

>>715034067
based but then cringe

>>715034258
I agree. Not on a first playthrough but on a new game+++ if the difficulty scaled on a new save file each time

>>715034289
Rise of the Ronin is better than Nioh 2 by the way, you cant prove me wrong either

there threads are so shit it feels like a /vg/ general

>>715034697
thank God you made a minor spelling mistake, you absolute fucking moron, ha-ha

>>715034769
I lost...

Action games have like 5 good games and except for Wanted Dead, the other 4 are all over 10 years old

>>715033806
>doesn't really fit with them
Why not? Please give specifics that all these games meet.

>>715034941
well crafted bait, I'll give you that

>>715034941
>Wanted Dead

>>715034952
They're Just Good Action games, 1 is merely decent.

we need to stop being wanted: deadphobic, actionbros! Think of all the fans!

More like Not Wanted: Dead!

>>715033806
>It's a simpler action game
More doesn't mean better.
>>715033869
>changed to be more action focused
And DMC1 isn't action focused tf?
>>715035086
>1 is merely deceto?
Bait used to be believable.

Haters gonna hate
Real ones know this is a shining gem of a game in a genre that has been dying

>>715035375
>merely deceto?
Not what my post said, get pwned.

>>715035193
hmm... you must be having a blast...

>>715035447
I accept your concession.

>>715035375
>And DMC1 isn't action focused tf?
it is, just meaning it's pretty okay at best as far as dmc's go

>>715035525
Once you unlock Japanese Hard the game really opens up

So fuken badas fuken Godhand fuken Jean hittin dat Dargon Kick on an bih....fuken shit

>>715035602
Can't hear you over the pwnage, sorry bro.

I have a not action game fatigue, I hate when a game isn't action

>>715035193
I'm expecting a wojak edited into the reflection next thread

>>715035719
Hello, Mork

Who likes Nanobreaker!!!! Lets Nanobreaker!!!!!!!!!

bmups mog this sandbag genre

it's over

>>715038985
What's the difference? I always thought they were the same genre.

is batman character action, of the stylish variety?

>>715038985
God Hand is the best beat 'em up. Also you're gay.

>>715039075
bmups = skill based fundies
j-action = gay gimmicks free wins and item chugging

i want more stylish action rpgs
take kingdom hearts, ff16, stranger of paradise and castle crashers and put em in a blender
>light and heavy attacks are assigned to the equipped weapon, rods, staves, bows and firearms are naturally ranged
>tertiary actions such as spells and special techniques come from the equipped job
>gain skill points every level up to build character attributes
>gain jp/abp to unlock commands and support abilities for each job
>longer and more varied combos, not taking damage, and settling encounters quickly end up earning more EXP and JP

>>715039285
spikeout mogs

>>715039409
So what genre is Yakuza?

>>715039741
slop

>>715039741
action adventure with undercooked j-action and rpg elements

>>715039585
I was having audio issues when I played it on emulator so I didn't finish it, but it does seem like a good game.

>>714994005
>clip has the most aggressive melee enemy AI in the history of NG
>pretty much invalidated all previous doomposts about handholding HUD, low enemy counts, artstyle, etc
>doomposts still coming in
/cagg/ is a joke

>>715040508
>/cagg/
its /jagg/

>>714994601
What a contrarian.

>>714994005
hmmm ludo kino 4 seems GOATED

>>714994601
>Normal people don't care
You mean, normal people are sheeple. They don't ask questions, they just follow the herd. Does he not realize that some propaganda shit will be done to something he finds sacred, only for some nob to turn around and say the same shit to him.

>>715014003
Please do some editing so the video contains less yapping and more actual breakdown.
I almost thought it's an AI video when I saw that 40 minutes breakdown of 4 yakumo twitter clips.

>>714994601
BAAAAAAAAAAAAASED

>>714999773
>The vast amounts of action games don't have level design anon, it's literally corridors
Action games are not platformers, you're complaining that they're not a different genre.

>Beat every NG + ALL the Challenge levels
>Beat MGR
>Beat every DMC after 3 (were okay)
>Beat Bayo1 (Didn't like it)
... What the fuck do I play now?
There literally isn't anything like NG, man. Cool, slick Ninja action. No style bullshit just pure practicality and fun.
Nothing measures up.

>>715041301
Sekiro mogs NG

>>715041473

>>715041301
you play the rest of team ninja games like wo long rotr nioh
they obviously aren't ng 2.0

>>715041170
desu I was gonna say I wish there was a real 3d action game designed like a classicvania, then realized that was basically demon's souls
when it was new and there weren't a million games like it that's really how it felt to me

>>715041538
I tried Wo Long cuz I like 3K. It had THREE hype fights (Lightning Valkyrie, Lu Bu, Lu Bu (Demon)) and that's it, I got bored and dropped it.
Man I tried Nioh 2. I really gave it an honest shot but it's just so slow and the controls feel like I'm driving a tank.
I just want slick smooth action that feels good

>>715041726
>he doesn't know what's cancel
this is the average /javg/ regular

>>715041726
then play rotr, it even has a ng stance

>>715039147
it's NG-lite

Remember when character action games also had multiplayer games? Like S4 League and GunZ?

>>715041670
Maximo chads rise up

>>714985173 (OP)
>>714991532
>>715033360
>>715033585
>>715009151
RENT FUCKING FREE LMAO

>>715041301
Play some 2d Bmups if you like NGs focus on efficiency

>>715043971
The first game he worked on was Armored Core Last Raven so he's based I'm afraid

I'm currently playing DMC4 and Ninja Gaiden 2 on my Xbox 360. My impressions so far:

DMC4: I'm halfway through the game, apparently (there's an achievement for that); and I enjoyed my time with Nero more than with Dante right now. Even though I didn't master the Exceed skill, I still manage to land some between attacks and I'm pretty consistent with it's timing on the upward slash. Having played DmC before this, I'm fond of the "Snatch" ability, which is great if you don't want to chase the enemy to keep the momentum. As for Dante, I feel like the changing styles on the run is too much for me right now; but maybe some training could make me enjoy it more.
My favorite boss to beat right know is that dragon plant demon, and I love how you can interact the bosses using the demon buster as Nero.

NG4: The combat is satisfactory; especially because of the animations. It feels good to land that charged attack on enemies to see that long attack animations while I mash X and Y pretending to help do something (Idk if it actually does something). I managed to beat the first boss doing the charged attack consecutively, iirc.
The boss I had most trouble with was the second one, which is the first boss but with lots of enemies around. The guy fighting Joe Hayabusa was easy by comparison.
I'm currently on Chapter 3 on the underground part.
I feel that as long as you're always moving while defending, you'll be safe. Otherwise, you WILL get grabbed.
But, yeah, fun game (Although the enemies bombing themselves on me are still disturbing).

This one segment here in NG2B Master Ninja took me over 2 hours yesterday. I know we complained that there are not enough enemies in this game but I think if there was even one more dude in this encounter it would be literally, genuinely impossible. This fight spawns 3 white normal ninjas, 3 incendiary shuriken ninjas, and a sorcerer dude at the same time, and when you kill one of them they are immediately replaced by another one (each enemy type respawns 2-3 times here). Not having access to Flying Swallow or a real Izuna Drop (Momiji's izuna drop doesn't kill even a white ninja and it also rarely delimbs and leaves her very vulnerable afterwards) makes this fight just a matter of "try to delimb an enemy to kill them then try to jump and aerial UT without getting knocked out of the air by incendiary shuriken ninjas or instakilled by a sorcerer fireball/ground explosion". Pure trial and error. Definitely a harder segment than any of Ryu's. But Ayane's market segment is still the hardest Ninja Gaiden section ever (and probably the most difficult action game level ever in general)

>>715045801
pic forgotten

>>715044876
>love how you can interact the bosses using the demon buster as Nero.
This. Rewards knowledge and execution
>mash X and Y pretending to help do something (Idk if it actually does something)
Kek. I do that too and no there no benefits for mashing.
>always moving while defending
Correct

>>715044779
his first game was ac4 so that's even better

>>715045801
What really scared me were the ninjas right before the save. That entire encounter was a gauntlet.

>>715041880
whats an NG?

>>715046695
I had 6950 money to spend when reaching the shop, and because I needed 50 more to get both a small healing item and a Devil's mushroom, I told myself "I'll just go kill those ninjas in the path up ahead, save, then come back and buy stuff". Then the door to the shop closes behind you when you enter the path and doesn't open again. Amazing.

>>715045801
>Pure trial and error.
Maybe if you're a scrub. In and out XX (sometimes XXX or XXY if you're feeling frisky) combined with headstomps, walljump slashes and using the terrain makes this encounter pretty doable. The encounter at the end of the chapter with all the van gelfs is much more difficult, ofcourse there's less pressure because the savepoint just before it.

>Ayane marketplace
I did this encounter on my first try. You should play vanilla II on MN, come back to this game and laugh at your retarded statements. Nothing in Sigma2/Black2 is the most difficult anything in an action game ever.

>>715046987
LOL
Same shit happened to me. We got punished for attempting to route.

>>715046695
A cool trick is keeping one of the ninja's from the first encounter in that hallway delimbed and alive, so you can OT him after spawning in the IS ninjas, then UT. Counters work really good on them too.

>>715041301
play bmups and bayo1

>>715047352
I have played vanilla 2. Playing as only Ryu is enough alone to make it easier than sigma/black. I would say Mentor on sigma/black is almost as difficult as MN on vanilla.
And you did the market segment on your first try because you were playing on Acolyte.

Is the Wonderful 101 worth taking seriously as an action game after the first playthrough?

>>715047745
no, its actionslop

>>715048102
>action game thread
>actionslop
??

>>715047352
Nigga, try playing without infinite health trainer for once.

When did people start calling cheats "trainers"?

>>715050267
>trainers
First time I'm hearing this

Are we hopeful?

>>715051821
LOL

>>715051821
I think itll be bamham like but worse

>>715050267
trainers are one billion years old

>>715051821
No one here cleared these games lets be real.

>>715054248
.

>>715044876
If memory serves mashing Y during the UT actually makes Ryu dish out more hits - only for the Flails though.

Also, I agree with you on Nero, I too had more fun with him in dmc4 and 5. Style switching feels like a lazy solution to me, and the whole "make the attacks fast as fuck" design behind Dante makes his weapons feel like paperweight.

>>715051821
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Looks good.

>>715055223
But do you have Kaede's?

>>715054248
I did 1-3 (and Genma) back as a teenager though never played Dawn of Dreams or any of the spinoffs.

They weren't really obscure at all, the original was the first game on the PS2 to sell a million copies.

>>715055369
of course not, I am afraid of women

>>714994601
This is the role of abnormal people to expose problems to the masses.
What a fucking retarded faggot.

>>715014003
Too bad the main character is yakhomo.

>>714994601
Kamiya and Itagaki are the most tryhard faggot devs of all time but at least Kamiya has a decent game or two

>>715008441
Dunni about most of this shit but Vanquish was a braindead and easy as shit game

>>715051821
Need more info. So far it's not as over as Pragmata.

>>715055247
>and the whole "make the attacks fast as fuck" design behind Dante makes his weapons feel like paperweight.
True. I also didn't quite like how there's "auto combos" in Dante's moveset in 4. There's a combo that you just press RB forward + mash B or something like that as swordmaster, and he does a big ass combo by himself. And I'm like "damn, I just wish I could do does moves manually".

>>715055904
Itagaki did as well, who gives a fuck if they’re try hard. They made some fun games at least unlike most devs today.

>>715047640
Well duh, playing as gimped female characters after being used to playing Ryu would make anything harder. Not more fun but absolutely more tedious and annoying, amazing how Black is still worse than Vanilla 2 lol

>>715057181
That's in 3 too secondary

>>715043971
Everyone laughs at roll slop now soft hands, please continue seething lmao

>>715051821
The environmental interactions give me hope that it's not gonna be another generic parry slop but we'll see

>>715041473
In spamming L1 it sure does

>>715024586
>Unrealslop

The only good looking thing in that game is Ryu and the bitches. Most of everything else is a downgrade compared to Vanilla 2, the lighting and art direction are pretty fucked

>Why haven't you preordered Ninja Gaiden 4 yet?
Because 3 was a piece of shit no worth playing

>>715014985
It’s been on my radar for years, hope it’s good and not a flop

>>715015051
>UT spamming

Way to out yourself lmao

>>715013737
Dicklet energy

ng2 fags now shill ut abuse...

>>715050267
Online/MMO games presumably
You'd use them to "train" a character up, essentially skipping the boring grind to do other content

>>715002508
Playing through Mentor for the first time right now, rocket spam can’t deal with movement, so keep moving. I’m having a harder time with IS spam but i can recognize that I need to properly learn the timings of when to consistently avoid/block them.

>>714995753
But enough about your daily projection

>>714994545
>bad at sekiro

Press L1

>>715058324
You have about 3 seconds before the explosion goes off. The longest animation that gives you most i-frames is probably the guillotine throw if you don't count the UTs. So I hope you are already comfortable with X+A and all of its options because all of them are very good, guillotine throw being the best for i-frames. I finished ng2 on master ninja without realizing you are invincible during your attacks, but utilizing this can be hard because most animations are too short. Moves like forward+X and off the wall X (this one is especially good in ng2) or Y usually have long animations on all weapons.

>>715057949
Listen I love DMC5 but let's not pretend that game has anything nice looking apart from some of the character models. Not even all of them, I would say only Dante, Nero, V and Lady really look good. The game's environments are all extremely ugly from a design standpoint. NG2B by comparison suffers from unrealslop syndrome but many of the areas do really look good and feature cool architecture, colours and backgrounds that are inherited from the vanilla game, along with all of the character models looking fantastic.

dmc5 is ugly as fuck and reengine slop isnt any better than ueslop

>>715058791
DMC5 uglyness is a result of nu-capcom being tasteless. It would still be ugly in ue5.

Do you ever resort to cheese when it gets too hard?
Me? Yes. I did something a youtube video showed to beat a secret mission in DMC 3, and also used the cerberus jump cancel on Vergil 3.

>>715060054
secret missions are bullshit all the time anyway

>>715060054
Depends on the game. I think DMC3 doesn't really have anything bullshit that is worth using anything but just the obvious. But Ninja Gaiden for example is different. There's an element of randomness involved in its combat mechanics that means there is no way to just be "good enough" at the game that you never get hit by stuff that feels like bullshit. Enemies can just decide to not get staggered by your attacks so they can grab you and kill you instantly. They can randomly have bosses block and evade all of your attacks perfectly or in another attempt decide to do nothing and let you hit them for free. It never pretends to be a fair or well balanced game. It surprises you, tricks you, bullshits you at every opportunity. Do whatever you can to do the same back to it.

>>715040508
>WOAH THEY FIXED THE SHITTY HUD
kek they turned off the HUD in that gameplay footage because it looks like shit

>>715040508
>anon discovers most trailers dont have HUD
are you a shill or new to gaming? honest question

>>715060548
>There's an element of randomness that feels like bullshit.
Incorrect
>Enemies can just decide to not get staggered by your attacks
It's called recovery.
>so they can grab you and kill you instantly.
Stop standing still and mashing you ape
>They can randomly have bosses block and evade all of your attacks
They recovered past their vulnerable state. You clearly mash and don't know shit

>>714994005
>culled enemy materializes out of thin air at 0:08
>that rasterization
RE engine all over again...inb4 it's plat engine thobeitno shit, it still looks like unoptimized slop

>>715041170
Castlevania and Ninja Gaiden were some of the original 2D action games and well...NG turned into a 3d action game and the first entry doesn't have hardcore platforming but it does make use of traversal mechanics quite a bit.

>>715054248
I'm working on my first playthrough right now. I was close to getting filter when you have to fight a clone of yourself because it's a very small arena that for SOME FUCKING REASON has like 3 camera switches including one in the middle of the room. You either can't issen or it's very very hard to do so the fight relies heavily on you side dodging the fireball or pre-emptively backdashing out of his melee attacks to whiff punish. This is fun, when it works, but again very small arena with bad camera switches make it so you very quickly lose ground and can't dodge properly to punish so you have to spend time blocking and/or moving around him to try and get into a good position again.

Also Onimusha's absorb mechanic is 10x better than NG's UT

>>715062059
I don't like that sometimes enemies seem to disappear into thin air and blood lacks muh CHUNKS, but otherwise it looks great.

>>715062559
get some taste. Even if this was an original project the original designs of the enemies and stages are pretty generic.

>>715061424
All that is needed to prove all your points wrong is one word: Elizebet

>>714994005
I think whoever recorded this intended to do an OLUT around the 0:09 mark but activated ninpo by accident instead, either way gameplay looks pretty amateurish even from the devs also the slowmo on dodge is fucking gay and they should give the option to disable the retarded slowmotion entirely.

>>715062832
There's a ton of slow mo and even some close ups, like i'm not sure why the camera zoomed in at the end after a few dodges. Very tiresome.

Reminder that DMC5 is one of the worst games ever made.

>>715061424
Also nice try literally making up a quote for yourself to call "Incorrect" instead of responding to what I wrote. The inherent randomness in enemy behaviour in Ninja Gaiden is not bullshit, but it creates situations where you literally can't avoid taking damage or dying from things that make you feel like it's bullshit. But it's just part of the game. Ninja Gaiden is not a pattern reading or simon says game like from software stuff where it's just "if enemy does this, you do that, repeat". There is almost total randomness in how enemies will behave from one attempt of the same encounter to another and there are no absolute fixed solutions to dealing with them, it's up to you to use your tools both actively against them and in reaction to what they do. There are enemies who can be beaten by using one move against them over and over (Genshin, Volf) and there are enemies who have absolutely no true strategy involved in beating them and it's all about just making up openings to hit them where there really might just not be any depending on randomized facotrs (Elizebet).

>>715063002
Yeah upon closer inspection the video is peppered with slowdowns, like in 0:06 which I suspect indicates the enemy has been delimbed and ready for OT because Platinum assumes the player is too retarded so they need slowmo cues, then the enemy reinforcements transition adds another slowdown and then the slowmo on dodge, it's fucking incessant.

jaytb has enemy guides and everything if you struggle with them you know

Why the fuck did they neglect animation quality in this game, man? Looks like it'll feel awful to play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbHDdd5drA

What happened with that instrument which lets you port any Xbox 360 game to PC? Didn't anyone try it on Black 2?

>>715063721
Pretty much the only NG content creator. Too bad he doesn't do NG2 stuff much. Also he's a score autist in a game where getting high scores involve using UT as much as possible so most of the time when he plays he's doing so in the most sterile way possible for score

>>715066397
>Black 2
It's named Ninja Gaiden II zoom zoom

>>715064426
This is an issue with any action game that's not made by a big studio. They just don't put in the effort for the animations which is funny in something like this that clearly wants to have a lot of special contextual animations.

I get it's not easy but if you truly want to make something special and memorable you need those stellar animations.

>>715066432
You forgot based Farnham

>>715067056
nigga who

>>715067056
Based people don't shill yaiba

>>714994005
No hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits no buy

>>715067056
Anybody that pretends itagaki is some genius game designer is immediately ousted as a retard.

>>715068461
NGB Good
NG2 Bad

>>715069521
I just wish NGB had NG2's new game plus

>>715069564
Starting from scratch is more meaningful in NG1 because item placement, including weapons themselves, change for each difficulty so it's definitely intentional. Like idr if it applies to both versions of the game but on MN the place the staff a bit later in the game, which makes the beginning a bit harder on purpose since you can't rely on it's strong UT as much.

>>715069803
I meant for the difficulty you beat just like how DMC1, DMC3SE and GOWII do it

>>715069564
>>715069803
Ngb progression works within it's adventure game structure. Ng2 progression good for it's linear style. Both good just depends on the style.

>>715069803
The way scarab rewards are set up are very interesting when you look into them, it makes it clear they had specific challenges in mind. I might have which one it is wrong but while Normal has a balance of finding things vs scarab rewards, on Hard mode several weapons and moves are behind scarabs, while Very Hard puts all the Ninpo and Ki upgrades behind them. Then Master Ninja puts everything back in chests and just offers bonus healing and ammo for scarabs.

>>714985173 (OP)
success, but at least it's usable in the trials. Idk I think Vanilla has stuff that should be in RE

>Flying Swallow + Throw

It should still be in the game. Functional on downed enemies on high difficulties, and random on low difficulties

>Dash + OT

Ayane Dash is pretty OP but they should keep Dash + OT, also functional on downed/hurt enemies

>Enemies being less blocky

NG3RE enemies love to block everything you do. It should also be less blocky and have less invincibility to it. NG3RE above normal and hard only has one winning strategy
Besides, Vanilla is garbage and they haven't removed any of the most egregious parts of Vanilla in RE.

>>714985173 (OP)
This shit is too wacky, these ninjas gotta calm the fuck down. When I swing my giantass sword in dark soru I feel the weight and powerful impacts, these "J-action" games just look awful in comparison.

I like Automata's movement and how you can cancel all of your attacks

>>715071475
You know that NG04 has ng+, right anon ?

>NG2B all achievement score is 0.8%

>>715072509
And it was removed. What's your point?

>>715071679
Yeah i've heard some people say very hard is actually more difficult than MN, i'm playing sigma so I beat doku to skip to MN

>>714990297
You could say the same for JRPG

Is this going to be another parryslop? I barely managed to finish Stellar Blade because I'm so fucking sick of this trend.

>>715072815
I'm not sure if I'd say it's more difficult overall, but the jump from Hard to VH is a bit bigger than VH to MN. Chapter 1 MN on Sigma is one of the hardest parts of the run by far, but if you can do VH you can generally do MN and it's just making it past the first few chapters to get the momentum started.

Did the removal of intercept break the game? It seems that some karma challenges were drawn on top of the intercept mechanic. But I don't know if that's true

>>714985173 (OP)
>People will buy a game because they hate a certain developer, not because they're genuinely interested on the game itself
It's Expedition 33 all over again.

>>715074428
Expedition is good

>>715073802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9sPmMeMzAI just watch the gameplay and see for yourself. it's basically just another souls copy. Also some examples of extreme shitboxes in the first fight in the video

>>715072481
>cancel all of your attacks
Trash

>>715074854
Its combat is not.

>>715075376
The combat is good and this isn't the first JRPG with this kind of mechanics

>>715075240
Sheesh.

dead genre
dead thread

quickly someone tell me if i should buy master collection before the steam sale ends
i don't know what the deal is with sigma vs black or what version i should be playing

>>715076528
>make daily thread on /v/
>durr
>hurrr
go spam your daily shit over /vg/ where you belong

>>715076706
play whatever you want and ignore the autism

>>715076706
Just buy.

>>715075728
And no one pretends Mario and Luigi games are deep or or interesting. Or Legend of Dragoon or Shadow Hearts.

>>715076791
>>make daily thread on /v/
this is just autism
ninja gaiden 4 will end the genre forever

>>715076706
It's the best versions to go with and the best, easiest way to get into the series, so sure go for it.

>>714994005
Aggression is still pathetic here compared to NGB and OG NG2

>>715076706
sigma 1 is fine, sigma 2 is inferior to original 2, re3 is fine

>>715076706
get master collection or emulate NGB and NG2 if your CPU can handle it, ignore the 2blacked demake

>>715075376
Literally the best turn based combat system in any JRPG. Only one that actually makes encounters engaging.

Why did we have to get a cyberpunkslop NG game instead of a warring states japan NG bro this sucks

>>715077559
Bait or mental retardation.

>>715077790
Cause it was originally going to be Astral Chain 2 until KT and Microsoft approached Platinum to develop NG4 instead TN cause they were too deep in soulshit.

>>715078004
it was old assets from mgr at best bro

>>715077790
NG should never be historical, half the appeal is being a ninja and fighting guys using rocket launchers

got this ninja bmup ludo where enemies actually fight back and all before the sale ended BTW

>>715077782
>press button to never take damage
About as unengaging as it gets, just like Sekiro.

>>715078261
you still can

>>715078467
Yeah and it has a very tight window and learning the enemy animations can be quite tricky.

>>715078384
Devil May Cry become the genre's joke franchise will never cease to amuse me.

>>715078467
thats all games anon
>press brakes to not crash the car in racing sims
>press roll to avoid damage in any game with damage or being able to die
>jump at the correct momment to avoid dying in mario (i guess haven't played one since galaxy)

>>715078738
It's 9 frames at 60 fps which is huge and the majority of timings are very simple even with all the obnoxious delays that don't actually make it more challenging.

>>715080023
These do not have static timings and have other variables to consider.

Why are you guys fellating Itagaki when he would jump on the souls trend head first?

>>715080782
Prove it

>>715082080
>prove why money-hungry jews would jump to make the most money possible chance
whats next anon? asking to prove water is wet?

>>715078261
Nioh has ninjas and rocket launchers, they can still do that shit

>>715077790
>instead of a warring states japan NG
Nioh 3 :)

>>715078261
>half the appeal is being a ninja and fighting guys using rocket launchers
said no one ever

>>715080782
Because it's self-fellation by proxy mixed with cult of personality. They get to jerk off each other's ego by being in the club about the cool guy and the special games. Anything that's bad or proves how inept, close-minded or ignorant they are? Obviously it's different and just the shit games by bad people. And they will ride this train to hell.

>>715082808
soulslop

>>715083546
your brain is slop

>>715082808
whole nioh franchise is shit

>>715082467
But Itagaki isn't jewish, he's japanese

>>715080782
Everyone knows Team Ninja have always been trend chasers.

NG3 really is just a button masher against humanoids. Anything that doesn't abuse hyper armor doesn't have to be respected at all, even on UN.

>>715086305
but dude... ng3 fixed everything wrong with ng! it's the greatest most complex ng ever, man...

How is it 2025 yet no action game has surpassed DMC3's final boss?

>>715086305
>commits to OTs every time due to needing the iframes to avoid attacks
>still has to dodge and move around other attacks and enemies to keep getting the OTs
>cuts the webm before getting hit by the rocket
Very curious.

>>715075306
souls games poisoned your mind, anon

>>715088534
being able to cancel anything with a dodge is its own breed of rollslop

>>715080782
he already did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHuKU6XQCa8

>>715088961
you can also jump cancel them. I don't get why would anyone hate having so many cancel options as it opens up combat a lot.
>>715089006
LMAOOOOOO

>>715082808
Game of the decade incoming

The Hayabusa's are canonically in both Niohs. Since it's their job to fight demons but they have no part in Nioh's story, then logically speaking they're on an even greater adventure during that time period hidden from the Nioh player. Nioh 2 DLC even has you fight the actual black spider ninja clan and you even fight the big spider guys from NG2.

>>715089791
Canonically wasn't the dragon clan used by oda nobunaga to kill demons?

How long until Black 2 is recompiled?

>>715090213
Do you mean og 2?

>>715090387
Yes

>>715090574
Thanks for clarifying.
Never

>>715090213
is this something people are doing?

The genre deserved to die. DMCfags killed it.

>>715089006
>NFT and Blockchains
>Soulslop
>MMORPG
This is /v/'s hero.

>>715091003
Someone recompiled Sonic Unleashed for PC and uploaded recompiler on Github. But I didn’t hear about any game since then.

>>715089296
And what can the enemies do to prevent you from just dodge cancelling away from all of their attacks and making them a complete joke

>>714994005
just need to wait for the "replace yakumo" mod and the "weighty movement" mod and then I'll buy the game

Ryu can't have a big drill weapon. Yakumo can have a big drill weapon. Therefor, Yakumo is better.

>>715092910
Ryu can't fit that drill in his black latex suit, it's already tight as it is

>>715092910
based

>>715093296
Does that mean Yakumo is a grower?

>>715093320
People get super mad when I make tunnels directly between the morkite and the pump rather than let them design pipelines. I don't care.

I like how Kamiya gets so much shit for the mini-games but people won't bring up how pretty much every other action game has similar shit as far as "stuff that takes up a lot of time that isn't the core gameplay".

I've noticed NG fags who will bitch about this but then they're completely silent when you bring up the bad forced shooting segments, the water level in NG1, the numerous fights in NG2 where you sit there repeating a very basic strategy as you waste your time against dogshit enemy design i.e. ghostfish, worms, etc

>>714985173 (OP)
If NG4 is a success, they'll have that stupid Twink in every Ninja Gaiden. I can't allow that to happen.

>>715077565
>fine
>inferior
>fine
I don't think you're a fan

>>715090213
>>715092290
Pretty sure it's still in the early stages so its unclear how long it will take. But given that microsoft just recently laid-off over 9000 xbox devs make me think they might consider abandoning the console market in the long run and focus entirely on PC and their new handheld which is basically just a PC and potentially release their xbox emulator in the process.

>>715096627
I'm just talking about the versions dumbass, as in NGS is fine to play instead of NGB

>>715096317
Correct. It's like those NG2 cultists are secondaries.

>>715096317
>filtered by ghostfish
embarrassing desu

>>715096387
Ryu is a twink too, he just has bigger arms.

>>715096317
>every other action game has similar shit
Not at all.
Kamiya and Platinum Games are the only ones who force you to literally play a completely different game.
Claiming that facing the ghost fishes is the same as the game turning into Space Harrier or Punch Out is an extremely dishonest comparison.

>>715098270
>moving the goalpost
So it went from hating side shit in general. To giving it a pass to Itagaki. Got it.

>>715098778
Itagaki doesn't force you to suddenly play Asteroids, Space Harrier, Punch Out, After Burner or bullet hell when you paid for a 3D action game and not for fucking Space Harrier.
PG deserves to get shit on for doing that garbage.

>>715098270
Sitting there and spamming air attacks as ghostfish run at you is not good gameplay, it has no depth, and has no skill. It's not what the core gameplay is about. Notice how you jumped to the ghostfish but ignored the bigger part which is all the shooting segments? Pretty dishonest of you to ignore that part when it's directly comparable to kamiya mini-games except at least kamiya's mini-games actually have some level of fun to them and aren't just making you repeat the same task against the same enemies over and over again.

>>715098990
secondary spotted

Vergil is so fucking cool, bros.

>>715100183
>gacha
>DMC5
No thanks

>>715100332
Ain't nobody ask you.

>>715100183
I will argue to the day I die that Vergil is more fun to play than Dante and if not for his super moves he would be extremely balanced too.

>>715057280
No he didn't
He didn't do anything on the production of NG/B or 2, took all the credit and those games are fucking awful
DoA is a joke of a fighting game on the level of Blazblue
TN put up with Itagakis shit for too long and he needed them, not the other way round

>>715098990
Kamiya mini-games are impossible to defend

>>715098990
>a game shouldn't be a game
you underages should kill yourselfs

>>715073802
>another casual filtered by based stellar blade
You love to see it

Remember to thank mork for all his contributions to the gameing indistry

>>715101157
our hero, Mork

>>715101275
>HE FLED

>>715100767
Actually it's worse than that. Itagaki took a lot of people who worked on NG1/NG2 to his new compnay who made devils turd, samurai jack (which is actually decent tho no longer legally available) and wanted dead. Even if Itagaki wasn't involved with wanted dead, it's still the same team that made those games. He really dragged them all down meanwhile the people who stayed with Team Ninja have made multiple successful, innovative, and creative games. Don't care what any cocksucker says about them "chasing trends" when they end making stuff that's fun and actually iterates on those ideas.

>>715101275
This is some insane gameplay. Has he literally never played a souls game before? This is the man who PRAISES ninja gaiden 2 btw. I bet he fell for the "you didn't beat it unless" meme and that's why he's refusing to use the shield

>>715100642
And nobody asked you about Vergil tf

>>715100663
The super moves are the tip of the iceberg. Hell, they're not even his best moves. DT Dragon Breaker does more damage than Hell on Earth for free and likewise DT Judgment Cut outdoes Judgment Cut End. World of V gives you infinite health for Concentration, which you can easily get from Mirage Edge combos, which completely defeats him having his only DT restricted behind the SDT bar; if you can even call it that because again, he gets to use it basically for free due to always having Quad S on.

And this isn't even getting into specifics. Void Slash alone breaks multiple bosses. He's broken through and through.

I really wish they'd had the dev time/budget to polish him properly because he's really fun but he's just kind of a meme in 5. Like go make sense of the fact they made Beowulf level 3 charges holdable, gave Rising Dragon a third level, and neither tied those things together nor made level 2 charges depend on mid level Concentration. Stuff like that is an obvious balance change but they didn't do it. Don't even get me into how SDT turns High Slash and High Time into basically the same move.

>>715101394
Yoko Taro blew up Cavia and sent bullets with their loves ones names on them when he sunk the company.
Then they went to access games...toylogic and soleil and still made some damned good games. Some trash was made, actually...a lot of trash was made but the spirit remained.

Sometimes good people make garbage.
People say Babylon's Fall was awful and it was active for so little time the biggest complaints were it was live service? but that was made by MGR's director and the Automata team.
So it by definition was probably garbage because NieR Automata is the worst game out of Drakengard, Drakengard 2, NieR, Drakengard 3 & NieR Reincarnation. It even gets bodied by a silly card game so I assume Babylon's Fall was in fact terrible and Metal Gear Rising was a fluke, much like NG1 & NG2, where those games worked due to the kinotacular director in the right fucking place, at the right, fuckin' time.

>>715101568
He probably just can't 1 hand the claymore. idk what's so bad about the clip for a first playthrough, I think people forget what their first playthrough of DS was like.

>>715101597
Where did you see me responding to anybody, nigga?

>>715101935
Exactly. You brought it up for no reason. Now enjoy your slop.

>>715102116
BITCH I will say what I want when I want.

>>715101275
There it is folks, proof that Souls is harder than NG. Guess you were wrong all along.

Enter

>>715101275
In all honesty. What can he do to redeem his name?

I honestly can't understand how people can enjoy Devil May Cry.
An action game where enemies don't fight back? What's the point?

>>715101924
This is not his first playthrough.

I honestly can't understand how people can enjoy Ninja Gaiden.
An action game where you can kill everything with iframe super attacks? What's the point?

I honestly can't understand how people can enjoy Ninja Gaiden.
An action game where all you do is spam iframe moves? What's the point?

>>715101924
That's why I asked if it was his first time playing and yeah he can't 1 hand the sword but then why does he have the shield there?

Again I say it's insane just because this is a guy who goes on about shmups and action games but he's crumbling over a pretty basic scenario that would be 10x more manageable if he just pulled the shield out and learned how the block, someone who plays fighting games and jerks of NG should know how good blocking is

>>715102367
>enjoying a game where enemies dont react to your attacks
you should play wow . you will love it

>>715102367
This is the videogame equivalent of blacks asking why whites climb mountains.

I honestly can't understand how people can enjoy character action games.
A game where you can kill everything with button mashing? What's the point?

>>715102574
>shmups
He has 1CCs thoughbeit

>>715078741
Deservedly so.

>>715102985
No wonder it won't get a new game ever again.

>>714994601
based kamiya

>>715102652
Death Stranding

>>714985173 (OP)
dont know what this thread is about but my favorite action game is dark souls and lies of p!

>>715103282
haha same, it's a common opinion here

>>715101854
Babylon's fall wasn't terrible but the live service model obviously hurt it quite a lot. It's been a long time since I tried it out but I do remember it having some good stuff but game has 0 marketing and 0 buzz and live service so it was doomed to fail. MGR director also did Transformers Devastation and that was great so he's 2 for 3.

Itagaki is not a master designer or producer or w/e. My whole point is just that he drug down a lot of people with him to make bad low budget titles that are just trying to recapture ninja gaiden. Also people forget Dead or Alive being Itagaki's baby and how those fighting games failed to make any impact beyond DUDE BOOBS. There is some fun stuff in those games but i'd say even casually there is a lot to be desired and the games main gimmick is this rock paper scissors "parry" system, which doesn't work casually against CPU and competitively it's a mess. I don't think Itagaki really has anything special.

That being said, I really wonder how NG2 would've turned out if he didn't get fired. NG2 is a clearly unfinished, unpolished game with really poor balance. Sigma fixed some issues but I really wonder what a real NG2 Black would've looked like if Itagaki worked there because original NG1 had a lot of flaws too that were fixed in Black, along with Black adding more content and enemies.

>>715047640
Hahaha absolutely delusional. This scrub thinks he has any notion of difficulty while playing the easiest ng game. You're killing me anon hahahaha.

>>715050176
Don't you have some cotton to pick, filthy nigger

>being up mork
>thread instantly dies
noticing

Itsuno is the only consistently competent dev out of any of these bastards, people only ignore him because he doesn't have snide bratty quips they can post to feel cool.

>>715103958
Dragon's Dogma 2

>>715104065
Not his fault desu, he was set up to fail because someone at crapcom obviously wanted him gone

>>715102652
To be fair those whites are doing neutered climbing to give themselves a false sensation of achievement.
They aren't risking their lives and they're just following a trail someone else established for them and they know if something goes slightly wrong the state will send dozens of paramedic and helicopters to rescue them.

>>715103958
>sabotages dmc 3 with some of the worst enemies ever
>sabotages dmc 4 with nero and backtracking
>sabotagesdragons dogshit
>sabotagesdragons dogshit 2
>sabotages DMC 5 with V
potential-man... I kneel...

>>715103958
Devil May Cry 2
Devil May Cry 5
Dragon's Dogma 2

>>715104065
>>715104168
>>715104245
Take Kamiya's dick out of your mouth if you want people to hear you

>>715103958
If by consistent you mean consistently releases unfinished games

>>715104245
Itsuno was put on DMC2 late into the development, he had nothing to do with many of the games flaws. Kamiya even brings it up in his last video

>>715104149
>You did not climb the rock.

>>715103947
Bump limit so.

>>715104393
>Itsuno was put on DMC2 late into the development, he had nothing to do with many of the games flaws.
Why people still believe this bullshit? It was just a lie used by Capcom to save face. That's why the mysterious DMC2 original director has never been named: he doesn't exist.

>Kamiya even brings it up in his last video
Japanese businessmen culture is all about politeness; he's simply repeat the lie because it's what they do.

>>715102327
1cc dodonpachi on a dance pad

>>715104423
I would be willing to concede if those whites climbed uncharted mountains no one has climbed before, went only with their climbing gear and nothing more (no GPS monitoring all of their movements) and if something happened to them no one rescued them, as, the government, rescue agencies and their families just agreeing to never try a rescue operation if he doesn't come back.

You can't claim you ride a bike when you've been using learning wheels the entire time.

>>715104393
Extraordinary cope

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>DMCfags spent years claiming NG would never get a new game
>All they have is Gachashit and Goyflix while NG gets 3 games in one year
Who's laughing now?