Thread 715038267

At the end of the journey will Susie still be smiling?

do you think this is possible

>>715038267 (OP)
Susie's going to die. That's what she saw in the prophecy. It's what broke her up so much. It's why she's noticing the little things in life like the smell of the rain. It's why she notices some distant music from across the lake. She's dealing with her own mortality in a completely "Susie" kind of way.

https://forum.starmen.net/forum/Games/Mother1/Breadcrumb-glitch

I'M TRYING TO SEE AS FAR AS I CAN,
BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK TOO GOOD.
TALK ABOUT LOUSY REAL ESTATE...
I SENSE NOTHING BUT EVIL FROM THAT PLACE!

ON SUNDAY I HARVEST THE WHEAT

>>715038267 (OP)
No.

End of the journey will be a wagie ending. Susie is going to be shown working at a fast food tent.

I'm looking for a series of images I saw but didn't save, where Carol shows Kris the Knight and tells him not to be afraid because it's Dess, but Kris has already immediately recognized and grabbed onto her, and she recignizes him

>>715038267 (OP)
I haven't played a second of Deltarune. Two questions.

1. Is Susie lesbian?
2. Any non-homosexual romance in it?

>>715043198
Bisexual.
A skeleton and a goat.

>>715043198
1. maybe, probably not.
There's a very poorly written subplot of a reindeer girl getting extremely horny for Susie, but Susie just seems to treat her as she would any normal acquaintance. She even implies that she cares about Kris's mom more than Noelle.
The fanbase is actually widely rebelling against the ship of Susie and Noelle, so I'm hoping that will signal to Toby that maybe it's not a good idea to waste screentime on that, and just hook them both up with someone else instead.
2. Kris gets to hear his drunk mom get plowed by a skeleton all night at the end of chapter 4.
Other than that, there's a few sets of parents throughout the game. In chapter 3, there's even a mini-plotline involving a straight couple breaking up, then being brought together by some annoying faggot trying to make them into a "Throuple" before the two of them ditch him to go back to being normal and monogamous.
Also, depending on how much you ignore Kris's they/them shit, you can help him get with the reindeer girl in the evil route.

>>715041902
>Susie's going to die.
that would've been the case if Susie was the chosen hero she isn't

>>715043198
>1. Is Susie lesbian?
No
>2. Any non-homosexual romance in it?
We learn about the fact that Asriel and Dess were a thing, but it happened long before the story starts.

>>715038267 (OP)
This will be Susie at the end of the game after Kris dies

>>715043198
>Any non-homosexual romance in it?
technically...

>>715043754
That's just the thing. She knows she isn't.
Gerson tells her after his boss fight that she's the Dragon in dragon blazers.
It's a rewrite of a retelling, but he still very clearly knew who her role in the prophecy represented.
She's not the girl, She's the bad guy. (Also a good opportunity to re-integrate that chapter 1 Lancer line)
Either that, or she just thinks she's "the girl" but it's actually Noelle, who will die tragically to secure the safety of the world.
Honestly, it could be both. I think Susie is going to turn sides in some way before the story is over. If it's between the risk of the destruction of the world, or the Dark fountains being closed forever, I don't see her willingly giving up on the Dark Worlds.
They killed a Titan, underdeveloped as it is. She would probably take that to mean that they can meet the challenge of the Roaring head on and come out unscathed.

>>715038267 (OP)
>Kris enjoys, loves, adore his time with susie and his adventures in the dark world
>Ralsei keeps trying to shove (you) away to talk about some shady shit
>Kris keeps bullying you out of him so he can do his own thing (which is usually not be with susie, which he likes, but he lets you be his wingman or whatever, which should imply that he likes (you), but no, he whacks you with a hockey stick fuck you)
>Usually when Kris takes you out he does sad things to himself, or sulks like that time he gulped down a fucking bottle of chocco milk alone
>Usually Kris is happy when (you) do things that makes him happy
>But he still fucking backstabs you, susie, ralsei the nanosecond he sees his fucking deer piss provider job to me (after gaster saw me retry the fight 942 times)
>AND he keeps (you) stuck on the cuck cage nex to his period blood or whatever every night
What the FUCK is Kris's problem?

>niggas actually playing this troonie tumblr reddit garbage
KEK wtf is wrong with you fags

>>715044118
Maybe he's happy when you do something normal because that's the only time he might actually get a chance to do something he likes?
You're a soul controlling his body, fighting against his will. I'd be pissed too if I had to live like that.
He also can't just kill you to be free forever for some unknown reason. He needs us to seal dark fountains, but it also seems like he's physically weaker without a soul. Shambling around, only moving in short precise bursts.

>>715044339
>fighting against his will
look, I didn't sign up for this. he's the one shoving me inside him. I would just float above him if I could. Like a cursor

>>715043628
>Also, depending on how much you ignore Kris's they/them shit, you can help him get with the reindeer girl in the evil route.

QRD on that?

>>715044898
You mindbreak her and convince her to kill her best friend, for the luls

>>715044898
The evil route is basically a bastard boyfriend simulator where you get to turn the deer girl into a ruthless killer, then metaphorically deflower her. Probably with the intent to eventually take over her body.

>>715044898
Basically, you cure Noelle's lesbianism by finally giving her attention, and helping her get more confident through the power of murdering people.
Then you can rape her in chapter 4. (not literally, but close enough.)
seriously, she just drops Susie like a rock the moment Kris decides to show any thought to her at all.

Say it.

>>715045298
It

>>715045298
Roe Dape!

>>715045298
CUMMING

>>715045298
Spamton ripoff

>>715045298
why he 3d

>>715045470
Because he feels like it

>>715045470
Because Lord Tobington needed an excuse for chapters 3 and 4 to take four years.

Is Spamton the most evil character in UTDR? Flowey never wanted to actually permanently kill anyone and shits himself when he realizes that's what you are going to do while Spamton has no qualms about enacting Total Darkner Death

>>715044118
I assume there's going to be a lot of retroactive knowledge when the game is finished and while it seems like the player is making bad decisions, it'll be revealed it's all for the greater good. At the moment I suppose there's some empathy with Kris's situation in that he thinks you have some kind of greater knowledge than what you actually have due to the drip feed nature of the game. I think there will be a few reveals by the end
>The good ending will splinter off the Snowgrave/Weird route and probably involve both Susie and Noelle surviving
>The "good" ending aka how Ralsei wants you to play where everyone is saved and you don't kill anyone will also involve either Susie or Noelle dying
>Toby will 100% put in some kind of gameplay quirk where on seeing the "good" ending there will be significant changes to the actual good ending as Kris will be aware of the greater good in the plan meaning he probably goes along with what the soul/player wants
>At some point the they/them thing will be revealed to be that the monsters are aware that Kris is two people aka Kris the person and the player
>The vessel the player creates will play some kind of role in the ending idno

>>715038267 (OP)
Whenever i feel down, all i think about to make myself feel better is thinking about Susie.

>>715045550
It's hard to look at Deltarune the game/story knowing full well Toby is going to make it meta as fuck.

>>715045536
>Is Spamton the most evil character in UTDR?
Nah. Most evil character in both games is you and Chara at the end of the genocide route.

>>715043198
I feel like people fear this scenario more than actual apocalypse and everyone dying

>>715045642
I mean, Undertale really only starts to get meta near the end and it doesn't reach critical mass until you get to the genocide route

>>715045718
Yes, because the apocalypse would actually be enjoyable to watch, and have better writing.

>>715045739
I mean Deltarune is blatantly a story about the player character interfering in the life of one of the characters, it was always going to be more meta, but it just feels like it'll continue to escalate until something really out there happens.

>>715045718
They all project into Kris and want him to get into a relationship with the Dinosaur.

>>715045697
The difference between you and Spamton doing genocide is that you are aware that you can just undo everything

yee-haw

>>715045718
And

susie sucks

>>715044105
If we subscribe to the idea that the Knight is Dess, 'The Girl' in the prophecy was depicted wielding a sword. Knight also appears last out of the main characters, hence 'at last, The Girl'.

>>715045536
What makes him so evil? He's basically Kris without his soul. Dude just wants a cheeky bitta freedom

Ralsei is not Kris's horn headband fursona
>kris sees himself as a dog, not a goat
>ralsei is male while kris is a stunning and brave enbie
>why would kris's headband know the prophecy?
ERAM is most likely the headband, the gate to it depicts red horns, it has horns and also knows suspicious amount of information about Kris

>>715045718
I'm just tired of every relationship having to be gay, poly, queer, divorced, or any other flavour of degenerate.

They're supposed to be an extreme minority.

>>715045937
He only wanted [FREEDOM] to kill Addisons, he gets to do that in Snowgrave without cutting his strings and stops caring

>>715045868
Even if you want to argue that redeems the player character, despite the games attempt to do the opposite, that still means Chara is the most evil since his goal afterwards when you replay the game is to show you that you can't undo everything.

>>715045718
Krusie
>emotional connection between orphan deliquent and edgy emo kid with divorced parents
>just within a day they click fast enough to grow from bully/victim to absolute gremlins
>actually care and talk about eachother or think about what other would think
>no battle or apocalyptic monstrosity is scary when with eachtoher

Suselle
>purely surface level attraction toward Susie's look and style
>Susie doesn't even think about Noelle unless someone brought up christmas related things
>can't be herself, Noelle doesn't get any gremlin behavior
>no comraderie, Noelle only acted as a Princess in distress

Suselle is so shit, the only people who like it are trans flag accounts who only skimmed through Let's play VOD or fucking Korra fans

>>715046268
Susie needs Noelle though to give her a sense of normalcy. Kris can't provide that.

>>715046328
not exactly a job for the other troubled life situation to do alone either

>>715046268
>or fucking Korra fans
Korra still has fans?

>>715046073
>They're supposed to be an extreme minority.

>They're supposed to stay hidden so I can pretend they don't exist.

>>715046429
Noelle isn't that troubled. She's got a lot of weird fetishes and is very defenseless. But otherwise she's rich, educationally gifted, and probably the only person in Hometown likely to make something of her life.

>>715046328
Noelle wants Susie to become Norman Bates dress up as her sister and play guitar. Its fucking creepy.

>>715046025
I'm coming around to this idea. The Rabbick says she thought she already saw Kris go past at the end of the Mantle game. Initially I thought this was just Minikris and it was a joke that she was too stupid to tell the difference, but choosing 'No' with Susie with Minikris on screen shows that Minikris dies when the controller gets unplugged. Ramb also mentions that he only saw Kris go back there, which may be another hint. Ramb certainly wouldn't be fooled by a lookalike unless it was a spot-on impostor.
That being the case, picrel is probably inaccurate. ERAM probably looks exactly like Kris, blue and all, except for certain easily concealable details, like maybe their mouth is the same color orange as their sprite form when they open it. Pretty easy to hide when you're impersonating someone as taciturn as Kris

>>715046449
I'm one of them.

Show is mid as fuck but I admire what it does enough that I'll forgive a lot of it's flaws. The fact they had the balls to actually move the setting forward technologically and socially already means it's a 10/10 compared to most fantasy fiction.

>>715046532
>Noelle wants Susie to become Norman Bates
She would do pretty well running a motel.

>Its fucking creepy.
Considering that every other relationship Noelle would end up in will involve her being used as a boxing ball, it's not that hard to understand.

>>715046517
>dad dying
>cold mother, strict
>sister straight up missing and she hasn't coped with it
one mess for another, this one just has bottled water

>>715046512
>minority
>just happen to be more common than straight only binary characters
Its like how a room full of niggers is still "diversity" but if you add 1 White guy it is now "less diverse"

…pause

>Berdly comes back in the weird route
>*Gamers don't die Kris we respawn
>Boss fight is the equivalent of Undyne in the geno run
>His ost is called "battle against a true gamer"
I would stand up from my chair, clapping and screaming "kino" as loud as I can

>>715043198
>1
At worst she's bisexual, might just be straight. The queers will probably call it pansexual though since the guy she's probably gonna hook up with is a they/them (despite looking and acting like a guy).
>2
A bit, one of the straight ships is genuinely terrible and feels like intentional trolling on the dev's part, another gets momentarily derailed into a bisexual threesome, but then the original couple realize that was a horrible idea and tell the guy to fuck off, there's quite a lot of ship teasing between Susie and half the male characters in the game, there's a bit of ship teasing between Noelle and Kris, there's one happily married straight couple, and (you) can mind break the deer girl into being straight if you play your cards right.

>>715046835
what a tootsie roll little faggot

I like Kris :)

>>715046578
When it comes to romance, it might be one of the worst written ones, though. We literally have Mako NTR'ing his brother and forming Makorra which is the most blandest generic and emotionless pairing convieved to the point creators became sick of it between S1 and S2.

Then they moved from this to Korrasami which had as much build up as Suselle, which is like 2 scenes before they become gay.

The only good romance was probably just Varrick and Zhu Li

>>715038267 (OP)
I won't accept anything else.

Am I the only one who enjoyed Chapter 3 immensely?
My only real gripe with it is the lack of a weird route, but I was disappointed to hear that another board and some other content was cut.

My question to the thread is:
>have you played a top-down zelda game and enjoyed it?
>did you like the chapter 3 zelda sections?
>did you like the MANTLE backroom game?
>did fighting the shadow mantle bring down your enjoyment of either

I wish i had a female bully in highschool

if susie were a dude, the large contingent of people who always argue that her and noelle are poorly written would have never happened

>>715047208
I think it's the weakest chapter so far but still pretty okay

>>715047117
Oh, romance was awful and a massive drain on the plot. The only real influence it had was strengthening Korra's mental breakdown during season 2, and most of that wasn't that great anyway.

>The only good romance was probably just Varrick and Zhu Li
It was very cute, so yeah.

>>715047237
How do you think they would react if Susie was a dude but they kept all the ship teasing with Kris?

>The flower man trapped in Asylum
Asylum, as in a place of refuge.

After a particularly nasty scene where Toriel snaps on Asgore, Sans' advances on Toriel are revealed to Asgore somehow, in shock he retreats to the flower shop wherein he finds himself in a dark world, the flowers are given life and act as his new family and he fells contented moving on with a new life in the dark world. The conflict of the chapter will revolve around trying to convince Asgore that none of it is real (which will be particularly hard for Susie as she just went on that spiel about Ralsei being real and whatnot) and that he has to let them close the dark world.

>>715047227
I was too genuinely mentally ill to have one for long.

>>715047208
I'm wondering how much of my enjoyment of Chapter 3 came down to that initial feeling of "holy shit a new chapter we're so fucking back" while playing the first time. I plan to do a full replay before Chapter 5, maybe doing it all in a single not-separated-by-four-years playthrough will diminish my opinion of 3.

>>715047208
Entire chapter is leaning too much on Zelda meme. When I'm thinking GAME SHOW I'm thinking Wheel of Fortune, Trivia questions or physical challenges lik the cookin mini game. Zelda shit was out of nowhere. In reality the audience would not give a shit or understand what happens on screen so it would be too boring to make contestans play a video game. Not to mention they had like 30 minutes for entire game show to wrap up or would need to make breaks for commercials. Zelda should had been something in a arcade store or even in Queens laptop not a fucking TV

>>715047208
i enjoy 2d zelda and the first time through the normal boards is charming, but turns into a checklist if you go through it again. the mantle game itself is kinda similar but the shadow mantle fight is p fun

>>715045298
I LOVE TV!

>>715047325
there would probably be more femkris believers

>>715047208
People love chapter 2 for all the snowgrave stuff and craved more, when Chapter 3 had minimal snowgrave shenanigans people got pissy because it wasn't exactly what they wanted. Over time the opinion will shift to be less reactionary towards what chapter 3 was lacking I believe.

>>715046512
>>They're supposed to stay hidden so I can pretend they don't exist.

I would prefer they be mentally healthy, but yes.

>>715047237
If Susie was a dude then people would still prefer for them to go full homosexual than ending up with Sakura/Sasuke and Naruto/Hinata lamest romances ever to the point Raikage fucking Hinata is more popular than her with Naruto

If Toby fox has you choose which girl/boy to get with I will officially retract my opinion of Ran being a terrible character.

>>715047646
it's berdley who's choosing, he's the VN protagonist

>>715047208
I loved chapter 3, a lot more than chapter 4, which I found to be a bit of a drag.

>Have you played Zelda
not for longer than 30 minutes
>Did you like the chapter 3 zelda sections
Yes, mainly because it felt like I was playing a game with a couple friends and fucking around.
>did you like the MANTLE backroom game?
Yes, it was kino
>did fighting the shadow mantle bring down your enjoyment of either
Still haven't finished the backroom stuff and fought it. I already know what happens though.

>>715044118
You're an eldritch being from a higher dimension that's puppeting his body. While he seems to need you for some agenda he knows you have much more power and he's pretty appropriately cautious about it.

>>715047208
Nah I liked it too. Plus it's pretty quick on replays compared to literally anything else

>>715044118
He's a moody little shit at the best of times. What do you expect?

>>715047646
I feel like there would be many pointless decisions to pick in chapter 2 if there was no choice for Kris between Susie, Noelle and Ralsei

>>715047017
His OST should be "But The Hope Refused To DIe", and it should be dubstep straight out of an mlg montage.

>>715047646
>my opinion of Ran being a terrible character
You take that back cunt

>>715047748
all decisions that aren't part of weird route are ultimately pointless

>>715046578
how do you feel about the new series basically confirming Korra caused the apocalypse and everything is terrible forever?

Meglovania will play when you fight Kris when in Noelle's body. He'll have a Sans like monologue where he explains his motive. When you kill him he'll admit that he always loved Noelle even as you freeze him to death.

>>715047085
hey this is myyyyyyy crop :D

>>715047836
Nah. She trash.

99% of her fans just like her because they like Kitsune. Even if she is actually a computer program put into a Kitsune.

>>715047881
If it's because of her connecting the spirit world to the normal world, I'm mostly just happy that has some kind of major payoff.

>>715047424
>Zelda meme
I thought the game was based off of what Kris played on the TV when he was a kid with Asriel and whoever else. The whole game show thing is because Tenna is an attention whore and also a TV first and foremost, but he still remembered all the video game shit and figured that it would be the best thing to keep Kris and the rest entertained and away from the Knight.
It's less about making it an actual, accurate game show and more about a fucking TV man hosting it in the dark world made out of Kris' living room.

>>715047967
Spoken like someone who has incredibly horrid taste and wrong opinions, but we're in a Deltarune thread, thats to be expected.

>>715048161
Deltarune is better than Touhou, btw.

>>715047208
>have you played a top-down zelda game and enjoyed it?
yeah, I had an NES because I was poor as fuck
>did you like the chapter 3 zelda sections?
yup
>did you like the MANTLE backroom game?
yup
>did fighting the shadow mantle bring down your enjoyment of either
no

>>715047208
>have you played a top-down zelda game and enjoyed it?
>did you like the chapter 3 zelda sections?
>did you like the MANTLE backroom game?
>did fighting the shadow mantle bring down your enjoyment of either
I didn't really enjoy any of the zelda sections..
They were intensely uninteresting to me.
Little more than chores that I sleptwalked through.
The Mantle bossfight was the only bright spot, but to be fair, it was a *very* bright spot.
Highlight of the chapter bright.

lmao they did the meme
https://x.com/YelloBurrito/status/1943165657853644990

>>715045621
Same

>>715047576
Right, because you're totally a paragon of sanity.

>>715032731
It also means you can't call Kris BIG

I wonder if chapter 3 came out the way it did because Toby had all those ideas for minigames and shit and decided to just shove them all into a single chapter (and also chapter 4 if you count the Mike ones) so they don't take anything away from the rest of the game, considering the way the plot's currently going. It just feels like ch3 in general is an intermission of sorts, or at least it will be once the full thing is out.

>>715047208
>have you played a top-down zelda game and enjoyed it?
I hadn't undtil I beat chapter 4, then I chose to play Link to the Past and it was a great time.
>did you like the chapter 3 zelda sections?
>did you like the MANTLE backroom game?
After playing an actual Zelda game, they are very surface level, but that's to be expected.
>did fighting the shadow mantle bring down your enjoyment of either
I just figured it was a hard boss, but again my post-Zelda experience has made me realise it's very shallow for a boss. Even when the goal is to just kick the boss's ass, Zelda still gives you tools to help counter boss patterns or flat out cheat (invincibility cane is kind of busted). The Mantle boss would probably be a lot less hated if we were given the Power Croissant and were allowed to throw the bombs it chucks out as an extra source of damage.

>>715048513
Chapter 3 was definitely a departure from the lighthearted story. We will probably get some more funny bits and a couple scenes here and there but they will be few and far inbetween

>>715048438
Yes, I am. Especially not as deeply damaged as to be a sexual deviant of one kind or another. Do you want me to pray for your own betterment?

>>715048464
Or EGG

>>715047208
>>have you played a top-down zelda game and enjoyed it?
I have played almost every top-down Zelda game.
>>did you like the chapter 3 zelda sections?
Yeah, they were a fun change of pace.
>>did you like the MANTLE backroom game?
Yes, it was kino.
>>did fighting the shadow mantle bring down your enjoyment of either
No, why would it?

>>715047208
Chapter 3 is my favorite chapter so far.
This goes without saying, but the ending is absolute kino.
Rouxls Kaard 2, Tenna, and the Roaring Knight are my favorite boss fights in the game.
The SWORD ROUTE is by far the best and most elaborate of the Shadow Crystal related side quests. The way it hints at discovering the Weird Route without external help from the internet is really clever, though the episodic release schedule ruined that for people playing the chapters as they come out.
I'm a big fan of secret hunting, so hunting for and eventually finding the egg without using a guide was one of the most satisfying experiences I've had with a video game in recent years.
I thought most of Tenna's jokes were funny. I don't like him has much as Queen, but I like him a lot and I think he's pretty slept on.
A lot of people seem to really hate the mini-games, but I thought all of them were very fun. I liked the Susiezilla minigame enough to spend 4 hours grinding for the T-Rank on it.
Even the regular board segments are more entertaining than people give them credit for. I found the controller swapping bit to be especially creative.

The ERAM boss was my first genuine death across the entire game (genuine as in not counting intentional deaths to look for dialogue). I'd say its my least favorite of all the optional bosses, but I like it well enough. I think they could have done more with the idea of fighting a boss with the SWORD style gameplay, but I suppose exploring more ideas would have made it drag on for too long. The obvious comparison for the SWORD gameplay is The Legend of Zelda, and while I think that's mostly true, the ERAM boss felt more like something out of Ys than Zelda.

This make twitter and tumblr seethe because it's the truth

>>715047867
What if Normal route has side routes? Like you can never have a moment with Susie in chapter 4 if you talk to Onion-san. Or Susie, Noelle, Ralsei getting a plushie for the rest of the game depending on your choice. We could have this on larger scale and have a permanent love interest on normal route. It would add to the drama if we had to see Susie die at the end of normal route after we established that both Kris and Susie are in love with eachother

Does noelle actually like Kris or was he just the weird kid he was forced to hang out with?

>>715049248
*She was forced to hang out with

>>715049248
If you've played the weird route in chapter 4, it's quite obvious that she at the very least values them deeply as the friend, maybe even some repressed romantic feelings, but that's maybe stretching a bit.

Reminder that Dess hated Darkners and called them demons. So either she was a bad guy or Darkners are evil

When the demon heart is crying
And the blood is gushing bright
Raise up your bat for the burning fight
When your hope is slowly dying
And your future's lost its rights
Raise up your bat and face the fright
Let's knock 'em dead into the night

>Mmmphh gllkh mph shlllp ghhhhk *slurp* phuah...
>This is... This is what friends do, y'hear? I never y'heard that, but sllllk mmphglk *sluuuurp* you sure are salty!

>>715049248
bitch wanted to kiss him

>>715049248
>Kris, your voice, your deadpan, mumbly voice...
>Even if you sounded kind of weak and shaky...
>I don't know why, but it felt so long since I heard it.
>I even started sniffling! Haha!
>Kris, Kris, you're back...!
She definitely likes Kris lol.

SAY IT!

>>715049656
NIGGER!

>>715049582
this is the only existance of Asriel II art that is weirdly sexual

>>715049619
Kinda brutal how nobody has noticed Kris has changed since we possessed them other than Noelle, not even Toriel seems to care.

>>715049690
I knew I could count on you Anon!

The start of Sanctuary 2, wandering in the dark as the song fades in with ripples, is one of the best feelings I've had in vidya in a long time.
>sanctuary 3 is an even better theme

>Susie isn't a hero
People don't actually think this right?

>>715046268
User was based for this post

>>715049912
I do, but she's gonna become one

>>715045828
Ultimately, it's about this.

>>715047208
I liked the zelda stuff alot, it felt like actually playing with friends

>>715049756
Toriel was one of the first to notice. When you go home, she tells you to go to bed early since "you do not seem like yourself"

>>715049703
It's not fair.

>>715050104
I paid 25 bucks. It's my fucking right. If I can't have krusie then I'll burn the fucking world down and also make Kris go out with berdley.

>>715049912
There is no other character tied with this symbol than Susie and her Rude Buster move. While "girl with hope crossed on her heart" could be Noelle (searching for Dess for years and not giving up)

>>715049912
Susie is going through the typical Hero's journey

>>715045718
It's bad, banal and cheap writing, Alphys and Undyne work much better in comparison despite seething anons claiming otherwise because Undertale is much more simple and infantile, those are complex characters with many shades, it's a love triangle.

Noelle is only sexually attracted to Susie because she's a hormoned teen masochist who wants to be eaten by le purple T-Rex (le ebin deer jokes), she doesn't actually love her. She also loves Kris but gradually forgot about it since Kris is a giga autismo that pretends to be stoic.
Susie is friendship starved and falls in love with both Noelle and Kris platonically, but Noelle can't tell the difference. Susie has no sexual attraction towards Noelle.
Kris is a MESS, he's a chuuni-tsundere piece of shit with a borrowed soul, he loves Noelle but the autismo refuses to be open about it, the fucker learned how to play the fucking piano to impress the doe, he giga rages when (You) metacuck him by gaslighting the doe for nefarious reasons yet he kinda enjoys it since it simulates a power couple situation in which Noelle is eating out of his end.

>>715050429
It doesn't make sense for the prophecy to say that there are three heroes then throw in "also at last there is one more character also called 'the girl'"

>>715050485
eating out of his hand.*

>>715050429
Well.
There's Gerson.
But I'm pretty certain he's not a girl.

>>715051062
Noelle is for the soul, not the cage. She talks with us directly now instead of going through Kris.

>>715051062
a kino moment between two loves

>>715051151
>The penis in my heart is fully erect
Takes on a different meaning with this context.

>>715051062
Almost correct it just needs Noelle willingly going in for that kiss instead

>>715050485
>>715051062
True and real.

>>715040624
Sounds about right

>>715050502
Why not? "The girl" sound different than "Girl with hope crossed on her heart" and prophecy repeating itself and refering to one of the previously stated heroes again sound stupid

>>715051464
my mc mogs

>>715051464
Anybody got the Chara sprite with huge tits? I want to make an edit with it

>>715047034
It's really funny because any ship with Kris and some other male is called gay, but any ship with him and another female is pansexual. They do imply he's a dude half the time passively and they don't even realize it

>>715051464
picrel is unironically so me

i need a chara gf so bad bros

>>715051464
Being dead really seemed to have done a lot to make Chara more agreeable to doing the right thing.

Kris could learn a thing or two from that.

>>715051362
The prophecy doesn't say "the girl with" but "the girl, with" so the name is important and not a generic descriptor of a female character

I'm gonna make my own Dark World
Wish me luck

>>715046073
Toby has said in the past that he does want more games with lgbt shit in it, he makes good shit but that is one of his ulterior motives as a bisexual dude

The Roaring Knight appeared.

>>715051764
Send me a pic when you stab yourself by accident.

>>715051764
cut yourself! cut yourself! cut yourself!
stupid kids posting on MY 4chan

>>715051764
If you meet any schizobosses, be sure to tell us what you saw in the shadow crystal!

>>715051764
While you're ahead please try making a dark world within a dark world. It would be... VERY, VERY INTERESTING

>>715045550
the they/them thing could be Kris preparing for the takeover by telling everyone to call him that, and on a meta level might also be just Kris having both a hero's and a heroine's journey

>>715047208
It's probably my favorite chapter for gameplay purposes. I can definitely see how the average fan would find it the worst, Tenna can feel like a retread of Spamton when people obsessed over Spamton for years, and the boards requiring a S for some cool content will filter people their first run through. I do wish we had a standard secret boss, but what we got instead was about as good

>>715047237
If Noelle was a dude they'd call him a creepy incel

>>715051503
that kid was the perfect vessel...sigh

>>715051464
>dumb barbarian killing everything in sight, getting his hands dirty
or
>high IQ machiavellian, mephistophelic doe gaslighter not having to lift a finger (Gaster backed)
DeltaSOVL chads won.

>>715052115
>If the genders were reversed people would be mad that Noelle wasn't actually into Berdley.

well, /v/?

>>715052360
God Emperor.

>>715052360
Your Highness/Majesty would be fine Susie

>>715052360
<3

>>715052360
>Susie
>soul leaves the dialogue box and lunges at her

While I'm practicing the Knight fight, I'm also working a checklist for chapter 4, and there's a lot more than the previous chapters. Is there anything I'm missing?

>Hometown
Steal Asriel's money
Get the Susie Award
Clean the blood stain
Give Tenna to Hapstablook
Buy lunch with Susie
Steal Noelle's pencil

>Castle Town
Visit Ralsei's room and agree to bring furniture
Rematch with Lanino and Elnina
Give ShadowCrystal to Seam
Battle Mike

>First Sanctuary
Recruit Guei, Balthizard, Bibliox, Mizzle, and Miss Mizzle
Have Gerson recruit 2 Guei
Gain an extra hit point by going left when Gerson asks
Steal the ladder and couch cushion for Ralsei's room
Add $9999 to the money fountain
Embezzle BitterTear from Miss Mizzle
Obtain Power Band, Mystic Band, Tension Gem, Winglade, and Absorb Axe from chests
Obtain ShadowCrystal and JusticeAxe from the Hammer of Justice

>12AM Church
Pray at the hope candles
Listen to Susie's story at the piano

>Second Sanctuary
Recruit Wicabel, Winglade, and Oraganikk
Obtain Gold Widow from the money fountain
Eat moss in the window hallway
Obtain the egg

>Third Sanctuary
Obtain Dog Dollar and Princess Ribbon from chests

>>715051729
Why wasn't it framed like
>At last was the girl
>The girl, with hope crossed on her heart

But instead
>second hero the girl
>third hero some loser
>at last, the girl (referring to second hero)

It sound retarded as fuck

Why was Kris so reluctant to play Piano in front of Noelle?

Suselle is the equivalent of The Last of Undertale 2, it even had a forced guitar section

>>715052142
a dumb barbarian that kills everything has a hammer for every solution, IQ gets smashed by hammer

>>715052603
>at last, the girl
Comes at the very end after all the panels describing the events

>>715052551
Here is all you need to do to unlock Krusie ending in chapter 7

>>715052551
there's a freaking walkthrough on the internet man, why are you asking us?

>>715052551
snowgrave gerson gives you the Nowhere dialogue, and refusing his tea lets Ralsei feed you an apple to you

>>715052115
Because he/she kinda is.

>>715051764
GAS LEAK
GAS LEAK
GAS LEAK

>>715052609
Some past trauma related to him playing piano when Dess was around. Its been years since he stopped playing

>>715052603
The prophecy is very clearly referring to two different girls. Hope crossed on her heart is a girl who wields a sword Knight/Dess while 'and last/at last' is the icon for ACTing, but narrows it down to Susie because it refers to a female.

>>715052740
This. Noelle gets so much mileage out of being a girl, it's not even funny.

>>715052801
He did still seemingly play at the hospital pretty recently.

>>715051173
Wow, Noelle is kinda cute in a dorky way
What the fuck is wrong with Kris

>>715051321
actually what if Kris is the girl and Toby BTFOs the whole enby and malekris thing

>>715052836
Hope crossed on her heart is not a girl but "the girl" according to the prophecy

>>715052682
I guess that make sense if prophecy is longer than what we seen

>>715052928
It's a different 'the girl' as evidenced by depicting a girl with a sword. 'And last/At last' is a 'the girl' depicted by the ACT symbol, meaning Susie.

>>715052541
What would (You) do as Susie?

>>715052740
>implying the existence of femcels

>>715052887
Kris can't communicate with her outside of pranks.

>>715052980
Maybe Susie will wield a sword later. Gerson foreshadows that.

>>715052992
Play the drum track in the band minigame.

Kris needs to start being nice to me RIGHT NOW.

>>715052887
>in a dorky way
Now you understand why he kept scaring her

>>715052142
I want partners, not tools.

>>715053108
I want him to keep being mean to me so it's all the more satisfying when I get to kill him.

Noelle get the fuck out of /v/

>>715053148
>If you named the MC the same as you did in Undertale Chara is already with you.
Wonder if that is going to be a thing...

I like the yellow one

>>715052702
A walkthrough isn't going to include all the fun little optional things

Fucking chutes having a paywall completely ruined my rape fantasies with Noelle.

* I thought if I said something different
* If we did something different
* If we were just kind enough
* Perhaps by the time we got here... it would change.
* But... but no matter what we do...
* Our fate...
* ... is already decided.

We're in a timeloop and Ralsei has experienced the loop multiple times. Also

* You held the crystal up to your eye.
* For some strange reason, no matter how you look...
* The prophecy's text does not warp in the crystal's lens.
* You held the crystal up to your eye.
* For some strange reason...
* The prophecy's text does not warp in the crystal's lens.
* You shook the crystal...
* However, nothing changed.

One thing that never changes is the prophecy. Susie being distant to you, Noelle's whisper, your hand? That's different in previous timelines. The prophecy/ending? The same.

>>715052997
They can be real, significantly more rare as any girl can just download a app and setup a hookup the same night if they set their standards low, but there are girls that are outright afraid of social interaction

>>715053491
It happens, I remember there was a big site for NSFW chatbots 1-2 years back but the creators went full retarded and made it SFW only. It promptly died because why the would you use it then over character.ai?
Man I wish I had a beefy computer to run local shit

>>715041902
I think her saying to Ralsei
>You obviously wouldn't let it happen
means it's in some way connected to him, as he's the only one she said "obviously".

Toriel is whoring again...

>>715043198
My friend, idk why people are not giving it to you straight, i guess they are as gay as this game, but to be honest with you, EVERY single character in this game is gay, all the characters that -could- be considered at least partially straight show some affection for the same gender too and are pathetic (berdly,asgore,roulx) with 2 odd exceptions, catti's family/parents who are surprisingly healthy, and toriel and people flipped their shit over it

>>715052668
you mean every problem?
>dumb barbarian moment

>>715043198
1) no indication, likely not
2) theres no serious romance in the game besides the doe girl having a crush on Susie

>>715053148
With Chara, you can only be a tool yourself.

>>715053648
I fucking hate how actual good competitors keep dying

>>715050429
>Rude Buster symbol

that's the ACT symbol

>>715045298
I LOVE TV!

>>715045365
STRAIGHT

>>715053575
To top this off, the roaring knight is:
Kris, from a previous timeline. This explains a couple of things. The knight uses a sword, like Kris. The knight wears a helmet with antlers, like the fake antlers Kris wore as a child. Kris can equip the black shard from the knights sword. Kris is looking for shadow crystals and the shadow mantle which along with the black shard is leading to equiping them to be a dark knight. The knight has poses very similar to Kris poses. There is the understanding between the two of them that comes form knowing each other, which of course would be the case if they were the same person. And finally, the roaring knight knights Kris if you win the battle against them and gain the black shard/ch 3 shadow crystal, symbolizing Kris being on the road to becoming the roaring knight.

>>715054174
If the duplicate Kris didn't get patched out I would have 100% believed you, but as of now its just probably Dess.

>>715053975
Kris is a girl!?

>>715050429
Are you an ESL?
This quite literally doesn't make grammatic sense.

>>715054174
>timeline fuckery
please no

>>715038267 (OP)
>At the end of the journey will Susie still be smiling?
Hell no

>>715047208
>no
>yes
>yes
>no, albeit fighting the cat faces was shit cause they could turn corners while I could only aim in 4 directions

how is susie so jacked despite probably never working out and growing up in a broken home where she's probably malnourished most of the time?

>>715054431
Dino big and strong.

>>715054320
There 100% is going to be timeline fuckery, just like with Untertale. Ralsei lets it slip in chapter 4 that he's in a timeloop here: >>715053575
That top text is from Ralsei after Susie runs off after shattering the end of the prophecy.

>>715043628
>The fanbase is actually widely rebelling
/v/ is not "the fanbase"

>>715053575
>>715054481
he's literally just talking about the prophecy being scripted. stupid retard-kuns.

>>715054431
She's actually real compared to other dinosaurs. That just still puts her leagues above most monsters.

>>715050502
Unless it's implying the last one isn't a hero Susie was meant to be "the dragon"

>one fanconcept turns Ramb into Dracula thanks to shadow mantle
Huh, not bad.

>>715054431
they're putting steroids in the chalk and Kris' shampoo

>>715052360
Lets go with "your enlightened highness"

>>715053781
[BIG SLUT]

>>715054682
Pretty impressive they made me feel bad for television dying.

>>715052919
That fucking faggot sans should drink it instead

>>715054704
Shut up spamton

>Chara and Kris both seem more affectionate with Asgore.
>Both Chara and Kris still seem to mostly take after Toriel regardless.
Why is that?

>>715054682
cute.
ILOVETV!

Noelle if she was a human

>>715054536
Nah. That's the perspective of someone who has experienced everything before. This might only be his second time through though, or it could be multiple times(the save files being different from each other might suggest at least 3 runs through). But let me ask you a question. Even outside of the prophecy, Ralsei says there is so much he already knows but can't say until it's time for him to say it.

How else would he know as much as he knows unless this is at least his second time through?

>>715054847
Breasts too big.

>>715045718
Be wary of the trick Toby's planning.

People already reckon we're going to switch over to Susie, or even Noelle and control them instead of Kris.

Toby knows that this is going to suddenly cause a shit load of people to like Suselle more. Because it'll suddenly be a relationship that involves us. Resulting in some big "gotcha".

What if I googled porn of Queen while using her and then went to a Dark World afterwards with her?

>>715054887
because he knows the entire prophecy.
this is so fucking basic.

>>715054923
>Implying that the Weird route won't feature Suselle going horribly wrong.
Evil route = heterosexual.
Good route = straight.

>>715054481
Nta but that just proves he know the future, wich is because of the prophecy.
As you said like Undertale there might be timeline fuckery, but that quote doesn't prove a loop.

>>715054970
This moody little shit needs more bullying in his life.

I wish I would go to the same school as him. I would make Sussie seem like a teddy bear.

>>715054923
>big gotcha
It won't justify it being forced, if anything it just doubles down

>>715054982
Anon...

>>715054970
aura farming mfer

>>715043198
No.
Yes, between me and human females.

>>715054962
>>715055029
Why does he know the prophecy? What is the prophecy and why does it even exist? To me, what makes the most sense is that the end of the timeline ends with Kris becoming the roaring knight and a timeloop back to chapter 1. Ralsei has experienced this because of what his connection to Kris is, since Kris is involved in the reset.

>>715044309
>Has the hottest lolis
>Still called troon by tourists.
Smh.

>>715055149
>>715054982
My bad.

I meant good route = homosexual.

>>715054704
Kek

>>715045298
I LOVE TV!

>>715055258
>hottest lolis
nigga look at the original sprites and tell me they're attractive

>>715045718
Bigger

Which romance is the most anime?

>>715045718
Suselle is just really badly written. At this point it would genuinely be bad writing if this actually happens.

>>715055231
>Why does he know the prophecy?
We still don't know, it might be because of what he truly is, or of his role
>What is the prophecy and why does it even exist?
Catty said it was foretold by time and space, some have taken this to mean it was fron WDG, as he's shattered there, antway we don't know a lot of parts, like what is the angel and his heaven, so it's impossible to know for now.
>To me, what makes the most sense is that the end of the timeline ends with Kris becoming the roaring knight and a timeloop back to chapter 1. Ralsei has experienced this because of what his connection to Kris is, since Kris is involved in the reset.
That's possible but saying that he let slip he's in a timeloop seems a bit excessive, as that still would leave a lot of doubts and questions unanswered.

>>715055690
Krusie is literally female Naruto x non-binary-but-actually-male Sasuke

>>715055748
the ONLY good art from this artist is the kris one

>>715044118
Third Entity - he’s possessed by CHARA.

If you stay in the kitchen while he’s playing piano, he’ll start playing Undertale songs, you could chalk it up to being an easter egg, but I think it’s because he’s possessed by something else that knows Undertale

>>715054923
that makes no sense

>>715047367
The prophecy is referring to the golden flower. Flowery will be the main boss mirroring Papyrus. Asgore won't be a boss.

>>715055849
You… you shut your whore mouth

>>715047492
I doubt it. It's not like people made Kris a girl to ship her with Ralsei.

>>715055893
does this mean every song you hear in the background in UT is canon

>>715055748
> i dont like it therefore its badwriting
cringe

>>715056024
That's because with Ralsei, the gayness is the appeal.

>>715049582
>m

did anyone ever check if the Bet 30 ACT in the Tenna fight is different if you don't fight Jevil

I love dunking on Alphys

>>715055893
Which Undertale songs?

>>715049912
She's not a prophecy hero, but she's one anyways. Gerson made that clear.

>>715056127
AFAIK there isn't at all, you have a Bet 20, with different flavor text if Susie doesn't have the tail.

Kris and Noelle were just friends because Kris is a girl and was never interested in Noelle that way

>>715056193
>Kris DESPISES alpiss
Maybe we aren't so different after all...

>>715040624
>Madness gets a Deltarune sponsorship
Hell yeah

>>715052360
I didn't have a Heelvesbabyface rant edit in my folder so have this instead

>>715052115
They are a creepy annoying femcel

>>715040624
NOELLE STAB YOUR DAD STAB YOUR DAD STAB YOUR DAD

>>715051464
I miss my human wives. I miss them a lot.

>>715043628
The Krusie or Kriselle agenda must be maintained.

>>715040624
>Kris finally snapped and killed Dess
>Instantly regretted it and tried to bring her back.

>>715056193
>Drink juice in front of her
>Kris throws the cup on the ground unprompted
I believe we can be friends.

>>715056346
the sheer fucking irony of bitching about this while also making him black

>>715052025
That just creates a Titan.

>>715056473
We never could since I watch way too much anime.

How long untill chapter 5 comes out?

>>715056543
beat chapter 4

>In the gonermaker, the question asking about accepting the possibility of Pain and Seizure sets flag 1225
>The flags are deliberately not set in order of the questions being asked.
The fuck did Tobias mean by this?

>>715052360
Toby will keep using they/them. Because the SOUL is their own character and not actually you..

>>715056543
tree fiddy

>>715056142
Love how concerned Queen was about Noelle glitching everything to hell. She probably drinks so much to deal with the trauma of Noelle's gaming habits.

was it autism?

>>715056543
Next year
Next summer would be the fairest guess, we know they've been working on chapter 5 for quite a bit so it should be mostly done by now. But it takes forever to bug fix, bug fix on consoles and translate it to nippon which inflates development time

>>715056662
Kris hates Alphys for trying to be a cool teacher.

>>715056724
Actually they hate her because she likes anime

>>715056724
>throws him to the wolves because she's terrified of a fucking student
sure anon, that's why he hates her

>>715054174
The Knight is Dess's body with Kris actual SOUL. You're right about Kris being promoted into the next Knight.

>>715056680
Bird lady?

>>715056743
Why does Kris hate anime so much anyway?

>Inb4 it's cringe
Most of Kris taste is cringe.

>>715056775
>Throw him to the wolves
>Gives him a life long friend.
>Covers for him when Toriel asks.
>Basically doesn't mind when he sleeps through most of the class.

>>715054982
>>715055069
I kek'd pretty good there.

>>715054896
There's no such thing as too big.

>>715056836
>Why does Kris hate anime so much anyway?
He doesn't, he's just being tsundere.

>>715056743
I hate my stupid chud Kris

>>715056607
free did- oh wait

>>715056836
Insecure teens hating anime, or more accurately, hating unabashed anime fans, is realistic.

>>715056930
Kris isn't politically motivated enough to be a chud. He'll basically just whatever he thinks will piss people off if he ever went online.

>>715055558
It's still hot no matter how they look.

>>715056813
>Asriel made Undertale on his computer
>Kris made Undertale Yellow as a fangame to his brother's game
Genius.

>>715052609
He used to play with Dess (the Dremurrs don’t have one themselves). They probably feel guilty over her death or are self-conscious in general depending on the timeline

>>715055890
This?

>>715056976
It is.

I just hated everything that was mainstream, like GTA and Call of Duty, instead.

Why are even simple sprites too hard for Tony?

>Kris hates weebs like Alphys
>yet takes orders form Carol “while you were partying I was studying the blade” Holiday

>>715057108
the streets are longer so there's room

>>715057108
There's a space between that screen transition that will probably be plot important later.

>>715056524
>>715056743
>>715056836
Kris does not hates anime, it is just traumatic for him because it reminds him of Dess. That, or he prefers manga.

>>715057179
>Prefers manga
Sounds like a hipster thing to do, so I believe it.

>>715057108
Different houses. There's space between the rooms we don't see.

>>715052997
Femcel is such a funny term.
Incel means involuntary celibate.
Its a gender neutral term can be attributed to men or women.

But that wasn't good enough apparently.
People wanted to find a way to specifically describe a female incel, just substituted 'in' for 'fem', and didn't think further about it.
Etymologically though, femcel would mean something like 'Female Celibate' or 'Feminine Celibate'.
That could mean a celibate women, such as a practicing nun.
Or that could mean somebody who is celibate of women specifically, such as any heterosexual women or even OP.
Hell, it could even describe a feminine individual that refrains from sex.
Femcel also doesn't imply the involuntary aspect, since you dropped the prefix to instead emphasize the target's gender.
Femincel would be a better way to express the concept.

Is Carol is such a controlling mother, why doesn't she have a arranged marriage ready for Noelle?

>>715057136
Carol doesn't stink up a classroom showing Kris hours of dogshit weebslop leaving the class to actually figure out what will be in the actual fucking tests they have to do.

>>715057364
She does, with Kris.

>>715057364
She does?

>>715057364
She literally calls up Kris at 4am to make him go with the festival with Noelle
She may even do it on the normal route

>>715057192
that boy aint right

>>715057364
lol
lmao

>>715057095
no

>>715051062
>Noelle has absolutely no feelings for Kris, it was all forced, she said so

>Kris stuffs me (the Soul) in a box
>Want to explore Noelle's house as the Soul
>Throws a bottle at me
>Throws a hockey puck at me
>Swats at me with a hockey stick
>Throws me into a trash can and kicks the shit out of me
I think I hate Kris.

>>715057486
>calls a teenage boy at 4am to make sure he’s taking her daughter to the festival
Is this normal for mothers to do?

>>715057623
she wants grandkids

>>715057567
God this is so ugly. Imagine drawing legitimately nice art and then destroying it by overlaying your signature throughout the entire thing. I get that AI artists are niggers but this is just pathetic behavior.

>>715057623
The bloodline must continue.

>>715057364
Because she keeps imprisoned at home everything important.
>>715057610
>Throws me into a trash can and kicks the shit out of me
You deserved that.

>>715057715
and it's easy to remove the watermark with AI lololol

>deer x human kids
How would that work? What would the mongrels look like?

>>715057715
>Imagine drawing legitimately nice art and then destroying it by overlaying your signature throughout the entire thing
yeah I fucking hate that shit, there's another jap artist I follow but their fucking art legit became invisible under all the covers I just unfollowed them, sucks because their art was great

why was he such a stalling jobber by the end? why did spamton hype up mike if he doesn't exist?

>>715055949
You are in Kris's shoes in the game. Even when you understand you and Kris aren't the same character the fact that for most of the game you are walking around as him can cause some bias. One of the more overlooked reasons people don't like Susie/Noelle is because it shuts out Kris (and in doing so shuts out us). That reason goes out the window once we switch over to Noelle or Susie.

>>715055060
It doesn't have to. The point will be that there may be people who suddenly like the ship more because of the obvious bias at hand.

>>715057776
>You deserved that.
Kris can go fuck himself.

>>715057871
>What would the mongrels look like?
Just take a gander at /k/

>date rape his mother sans
>it’s the only way to save the world

>>715057567
>Piss fetish art is better.
You get Frisk's disgusted face twice.

>>715057914
>why was he such a stalling jobber by the end?
cause that's what Kris asked him to do
stall until the knight arrives

>kris used to only have female friends
>idolised a tomboy and faggot
>is «non-binary»
Erm is Kris a girl?

>>715058035
>>Piss fetish art is better.
it really is

>>715057915
The reason people can attach to Kris is because we never directly hear Kris speak. This is not the case with Susie or Noelle, and I very much doubt they'll switch to being silent when we control them.

>>715058157
I'm pretty sure weird route was a "abusive heterosexual relationship" before chapter 3+4 "rape" scene was released.

>>715056467
why would Kris have killed Dess in the first place?
Kris is a weirdo but he's not a killer

>>715057580
Noelle never liked Kris. She was some weird kid that was adopted by her dads friend.

>>715045298
Meet & huh?!

>>715057610
You may be jewish

>>715047085
Noelle...

>>715058157
>Implying boys can't have female friends.
>implying boys can't idolize tomboys.

>>715058157
He’s a HMOFA fag

>>715058019
>Just take a gander at /k/
That can't be good for my eyes.

>>715058306
most likely in an accident

>>715055956
Asgore will be a boss but only in the weird route

>>715058316
>hates non-binary kid next door
>is lesbian
WTF Noelle is TERF?

>>715058316
>Noelle never liked Kr-
>>715051321

Why is he like this?

>>715058306
1: Accident. 2: Maybe he is a killer? He clearly has a sadistic side.

>>715058545
There's no other humans so Kris probably is attracted to monsters as a byproduct of the life he lived

>>715058545
NEXT TO YOU RETARD

>>715058520
She seems like the kind of girl that would be into Harry Potter, so yes.

>>715058545
God as my witness I WILL get Kris laid, one way or another.

>>715058579
Kris is a little shithead but I don't think he's a bad person, even if he has a darker side
He wouldn't have tried to protect Noelle if not, he pretty much dropped his big plan to protect her.

>>715058515
True, but only because mantle game foreshadows it.

>>715058545
noelle is built for human cock only

>>715058316
Speaking of which, you guys weren’t the weirdo spaz other parents made their kids be friends with, right?

>>715058657
You sound like Asriel when Chara was telling him about his plan to kill 6 people.

>>715058652
why not show the soul as the vessel atp

>>715058631
Don’t force Kris to fuck his cute childhood friend. He hates it

>>715058545
Kris seems to dislike humans, so it doesn't leave him with many choices.

>>715058753
Nice try, Noelle, but you can't change the prophecy.

>>715058725
Nah, Asriel pretty much says that Chara wasn't a good person even if they loved each others

>>715058724
Of course not.

My parents never tried to make me befriend anybody else.

>>715058818
It took him getting both of them killed to realize that.

>>715058725
Chara made his adoptive father shit and vomit himself almost to the death, and then laughed about it. The worst thing Kris did on purpose was scaring the girl who liked to be scared.

>>715058918
It was just a prank

>>715058631
What if he clicked BECAUSE Noelle was next to him?
It did say "in your area"...

>>715058918
>Chara made his adoptive father shit and vomit himself almost to the death, and then laughed about it.
He laughed it off. I could see Kris doing that simply because he wouldn't know how else to respond.

>>715058753
man...

>>715058971
But he DID betray them
The moment he is free from our control he commits heinous crimes

>>715058915
Damn human brat... bat correction is needed.

>>715057762
*Yes you do, Kris!

>>715057762
>Feels love
>Instantly tries to kill himself
Lol, loser.

>>715040624
No, the Darkness literally lies underneath the Earth, which is why you have to stab the ground. People do not have Darkness inside of them.

>>715058753
Canon

16 more months of WAITing...

>>715059232
Wow haha he's literally me

>>715059314
>release darkness from the earth by stabbing/removing a pointy shaped object from the ground
toby is a hack

>kris WILL go to the festival
>kris WILL take noelle on the ferris wheel
>kris WILL shake the cabin
>kris WILL have fun like the good ole days

>>715058725
Asriel shittalks Chara to his new girlfriend after her death in her grave.

>>715059232
This little emo never intended to have these feelings

>>715059314
What if they do though?

anons what if I don't ship anything?

>>715059516
trve winner

Kris will pull a Caim

>>715059314
Kingdom hearts

>>715059516
On-site production is wasteful

>>715059436
Never realized he said this while literally walking on his grave. Talk about last disrespect.

>>715059556
very true, Kris will fuck the dragon

>>715059505
Reminds me of that post I saw that he originally intended for Susie to replace Noelle as a sacrifice and that is now being derailed because he actually cares for her.

>>715059556
Context?

>>715059708
He'll have sex spiritually and physically with a dragon.

>>715043198
I fucking hate how those trannies and LGBT brainless agitators "forget" simplest lore in order to push their agenda. There is no gender, or rather sex, in Deltarune. In undertale it was explicitly stated that two monsters together can produce a baby by fusing their monster soul or whatever so gender is only cosmetic in here.
No one is fucking lesbian or gay in Undertale or in Deltarune, same with Minecraft. You can't be gay if there is no "gender".

>>715059556
He's going to pull a Eliwood.

>>715059683
that doesn't make any sense at all

>>715059621
>>715059708
>>715059857
actually I meant more about Kris fucking up the world one way or another, but huh yeah Caim does fall in love with a dragon...

>>715059954
I don't remember the exact context.

Either way, it would be funny if whatever plot Kris is doing is derailed by him falling in love.

>>715059969
Nope. You meant sex with dragons too.

>>715059884
magic doesnt exist in deltarune, as far as we know they could reproduce the same way human does

>>715060058
Anon you can't just say things that are not true

>>715060051
I can’t believe Berdley is kill

>>715060051
>Nerdly
lel

>>715059395
Tony ripping off Mother? Say it ain't so!

>>715040624
Toby is punching the air right now.

>>715059354
Still remember how before ch3 released everyone thought that Tenna and Mike were going to be these pure evil psychopaths who ruined Spamton's life and drove him to insanity, but instead what we got was a complete 180

>>715045298
KILL TV

Making your mother jokes about snowdrakes mom

>>715060194
I don't understand people thinking Spamton was ever a good person, he got a tragic life but he also always was a morally dubious bastard, he just got a big head when he became a big shot.
Hell he doesn't even hide it, it's even why he gets pissed if Kris calls for his friends, because he think Kris is a complete hypocrite for still daring to do this

my tongue + Kris' blueberry anus

>>715060125
Stop deluding yourself. You meant sex with dragons

>>715060242
why are women like this

>>715060318
It's because he's a fun character and has a few sympathetic moments.

You think the fact he has the Thornring would be a dead giveaway.

>>715060194
Jury's still out on Mike, but Tenna kinda did fuck Spamton over. It wasn't entirely intentional, but Tenna is a manipulative bastard, too.

>>715060318
why would he think of Kris as a hypocrite though

>>715059884
>In undertale it was explicitly stated that two monsters together can produce a baby by fusing their monster soul
No it wasn't. This is fanon, anon. It's never stated in game.

>>715060546
He's talking to you.

>>715060373
Meant for
>>715060095

>>715060606
>Fat smelly kid disliked by everybody
>Inside his fantasy world he's a heroic knight in shining armor.

>>715058753
Oh fuck no, Suselle really is going to happen, isn't it? To push Kris into a deeper state of depression and anger, to make him double down on helping bring about the Roaring. He's already miserable because of his parents divorce, made worse by Toriel hooking up with Sans, so seeing his childhood friend hooking up with the girl he's come to love...fuck, I'd snap too. So much of his world is outside his control, things that hurt him just happen and he can't do anything about it...
...which might be why part of him likes Snowgrave so much. It's awful and makes him sick, but it also gives him some modicum of control of the people around him.

>>715038267 (OP)
In a way, yes

>>715060568
Nigger the lore book in Undertale specifically states that Monsters use their SOULs to make children, and Boss Monsters specifically age by having their SOUL's essence gradually transfer to their offspring overtime.

>>715060712
It’s more likely Noelle will be unironically cuckolded in the story by Kris and Susie and get mad

>>715060745
post full

>>715060712
Suselle might end up happening when everything comes falling down for Sussie. Then again, Noelle also looks fucked what with her dad dying.

>>715060712
Kris has bigger problem than whatever the fuck Susie/Noelle are doing. If anything I'd argue Noelle is more likely to be the jealous one, seeing Susie/Kris being close friends.

>>715060712
We still don't know who exactly the "inferno of jealousy" is referring to.
Could be Kris, could be Noelle, Could be Asgore, could even be all three of them.

>>715060753
show the dialogue
no variation of "look it up" is accepted as an answer

>>715060925
can you show when is the inferno of jealousy is mentioned I don't remember

>>715060745
I could see Susie being into this

>>715060892
>>715060875
>Susie and Kris end up hooking up together(Or at the very least Noelle realizes they are way closer) during the festival.
>Then her dad starts dying.
>In a desperate final attempt to save him she creates a dark fountain in the hospital.
She's going to be the main villain of chapter 6.

>>715061115
Gerson talking about chapter 5.

>>715061174
Is it wrong that these responses seem pretty in character?

>>715061258
asgore sets his flower shop dark world ablaze to kill sans

>>715061327
It seems like Asgore is the obvious answer, but we know Toby loves his misdirects.

>>715061198
not after weird route. she wont be able to walk for a week after kris was done with her

>>715043198
Toby is unable or unwilling to write a single straight relationship. Every single hetero couple is either a background character with no actual depth or there’s something wrong with their relationship.

>>715061479
Anon, during the weird route chapter 6 YOU will become the main villain.

>>715061479
More like Kris won’t be able to walk after she’s done with him

>>715061258
>this + killing the white monster surrounded by flowers in the sword route
WE'RE GONNA KILL ASGORE

So what is the deal with Undyne being frozen in ice in the chapter 3 shadow crystal?

>>715061648
Dess has ice magic too

>>715061258
What if it's a metaphorical garden, like Kris's feelings for Susie are a "vast garden of love" that get symbolically torched when Susie sees them being jealous over her and Noelle and gets mad at Kris for being a jerk?
Not likely, but y'know.

>>715061410
Asgore is going to be too sad to be genuinely jealous. Seeing Sans and toriel together will make him realize that it really is 100% over and combined with Rudy dying will give him a mental breakdown.

Noelle will genuinely become jealous. Especially as she feels guilty for not being able to support her best friend and wish him happiness. We already know she has a dark side outside of the weird route, so her going full jealous wouldn't be that weird.

>>715061719
>dreemurrs are known for their fire magic
>holidays are all ice magic users (rudy is still unknown)
it's like pottery, sasuga tobunga

>>715061752
Like I said, Toby love his misdirects and double meanings.
There's like 5 people primed to totally lose their shit at this point.

What will happen to Kris and Noelle once they are “used up”?

>>715062030
>Susie
>Noelle
>Asgore
>Kris
>Rudy(well, insofar that death is him losing his shit.)

>>715062045
safely "retire" and become a loving couple with a child named Chara[\spoiler]

>>715062045
>Kris
We'll kill him once we made Noelle our new host.

>noelle
Will suffer the same fate Frisk does during Genocide.

>>715062045
aftersex, cum_in_ass, cum_in_pussy, cum_in_mouth, top-down_bottom-up

>>715062045
>her childhood love laying DEMONICALLY perfect pipe
she's already used up

>>715062045
Teen pregnancy and quietly shunned in that typical small town way

>>715062282
>Shunned
Aren't they encouraged?

>>715062282
It’s ok Carol has their back. Noelle being a teen mom is far preferable to being a dyke

>>715062282
>shunned
More like Toriel seething and throwing bitch fits over it while everyone else is supportive of them.

>>715047208
I think if you missed the sword stuff then chapter 3 would be really short and lacking. With it though it's pretty good.

>>715062403
Toriel would be too busy getting wasted with Sans to care

>>715062403
Even Susie would be supportive.

Though she secretly wishes it happened to her.

>>715062403
hometown is a dying small town full of crabs who will become addicted to fentanyl within the next decade

>>715062165
she fucking wishes she was any bit monster

Susie and Noelle is too predicable an outcome.
WOW Robert, another lesbian couple with a sharp toothed tough girl and a pathetic smart girl.
who can say where this creativity comes from

>>715062537
>Dying
I mean, what economy did they even have?

Will Toby reveal if humans can breed with monsters?

>>715062652
He will but only by revealing that it results in horrific abominations and is illegal as a result.

>>715062645
the money is all embezzled by carol. the holidays live in a mansion while everybody else (except the dreemurs) lives in a bungalow or project housing apartment

>>715062713
and that horrific abomination? All YOU

>>715060753
No dude. That doesn't actually exist. You're mistaking Gerson's dialogue about Boss Monsters immortality with fanon.

>a thread with deltarune in the subject actually hit bump limit
don't expect another one for a week

Why did she do it?

>>715060745
The soul unironically, in the sense it enjoys seeing those two getting together and self-inserting.

>>715063150
Best husbands are groomed.

>>715063006
Don't you worry, our next thread will be "complaining about Undertale" one I'm seeing in the catalog already.

But sex talk apart, Noelle is pretty cute

>>715063401
She would be pretty ugly if she was human. But as a monster she's cute enough.

>>715063401
I like Noelle whenever she isn't talking about Susie.

>>715063150
She was based

>>715063401
she is very very cute

>>715063530
same her character nose dives when she talks about susie

>>715063485
>Lanino-Elnina-Roxuls is an allegory for Toriel-Asgore-Sans

>>715063530
>talks about Susie when she's with Kris
>talks about Kris when she's with Susie
What is wrong with her