>"I think the more you understand what underlies these current tools, the more effective you are at taking advantage of them," Newell says of AI. "But I think we'll be in this funny situation where people who don't know how to program who use AI to scaffold their programming abilities will become more effective developers of value than people who've been programming for a decade.
>"Even if you're just a pure tool user, you're gonna find that the gains to utilizing those tools are very, very high. But I think your ability to use those tools will continue to improve the more you understand the underlying methods and mindsets of people developing machine learning systems. So I think it's both, and I think they're highly complementary."

He's not wrong.
>t. AI python programmer

>>715761436
Python is worthless shit

>>715761486
Naw, it's best language out there

A sign of decline

experts and industry leaders are pretty much all in agreement that AI is a great tool.
meanwhile the angry faggots on 4chan and reddit swear up and down AI is no good.

I think Gabe just doesn’t want to get on the wrong side of AI hype

>>715761312 (OP)
He's not wrong. Eventually, ai will become so capable, that you will be able to tell it to create a program for you, and it will be able to do it and do it well. It really is inevitable, if you think about it.

I wish I was Gaben

>>715761312 (OP)
>kneels towards payment processors
>sucks-off ai
Are there any alternative over Steam? I'm losing trust over them :.(

amerimutts are making spaghetti code with AI while scapegoating pajeets for it

>>715761669
because it makes workers more productive. this pleases the shareholders and upsets the wagies.

The only reason he's not wrong is because I know plenty of 10+ yoe devs who write absolute garbage.

>guy gets old and detached from his best days
>starts talking absolute gibberish
Happens a lot. Gabe's probably leaving his keys in the fridge at this point.

>>715761802
>payment processors
Everyone bends to them or get fucked into oblivion
I guess GOG and itch.io are your answers

>>715761312 (OP)
Why is he banning my AI porn games then? Fucking fatty

>>715761486
Python was used to train the AI replacing you.

>>715761850
Sometimes they're right, see the Builder.ai debacle.

>>715761312 (OP)
based gabe knows the future is AIgold. hurfdurfslopslopslopslop spamming luddites BTFO

>>715761759
I wish you were nebag

Computing optimization was already in the coffin, with jeets using AI for everything it's gonna be even worse because you can't optimize the code you don't even understand

I'm glad Nintendo and Valve aren't outright jumping the gun into AI right now. It's going to be fun watching the abominations that come from Microsoft and Sony out of this.

A.I just makes everything worse so I don't get why it's shoved on us so hard.
Why is a.i so damn forced?

>>715761312 (OP)
>Trusting a platform that is starting a huge purge of games as we speak
Disappointed!!

>>715761312 (OP)
At least he still thinks that AI is a tool for people not an outright replacement.

>>715761669
>experts and industry leaders are pretty much all in agreement that AI is a great tool.
they say its great because most of the shit they need to make is worthless or are trying to solve problems already figured out

>>715761312 (OP)
Maybe. The fact remains that you will still need architecting in the future, even when you don't write the code. For example, if I just tell the AI to create a basic server to serve a website, it might give me a blocking single-thread solution. But what if I actually needed a parallelized solution? If I don't even know about it, or don't consider it, I am screwed. If I can tell the AI that, I am a way better software engineer.

>>715762264
Investors have pumped trillions into it and they want quadrillions in returns. Naturally this isn't going to happen but they're going to try by making everything everywhere AI integrated.

>>715761312 (OP)
>Guy that doesn't make games talk about AI making games
Or maybe he's just talking the people working at Valve, in which case, yea, can't be that hard to do better than nothing.

>>715762264
>Why is a.i so damn forced?
It's a grift just like NFTs except people with actual money engage in it. You can notice large figures like James Cameron or John Carmack get into AI companies and immediately they become AI shills. Has nothing to do with value of the technology, only that the line has to go up.

>>715761312 (OP)

He says that. But it could also elevate expert coders as well. It is no different from AI art. Those who already have pre-established art skills generally get better results than those who do not.

>>715761968
These things can write code that is as good or better than senior level. The problem is that they can also fuck it up and make weird and ridiculous mistakes. This doesn't happen so often, but when it does you need to know that it's making a mistake or you'll make it too.
It's an interesting situation.

>>715761312 (OP)
Arguably already happened
https://sfstandard.com/2025/07/05/rene-turcios-hackathon-labubu-vibe-coding-chatgpt/

>>715762264
>A.I just makes everything worse so I don't get why it's shoved on us so hard.
You don't know what you are talking about. This is not about shitty generated images.

>>715762702
Isn't anti-ai more of a grift because they start unnecessary drama?

>>715761312 (OP)
Honestly based. I'm tired of coming to /v/ and finding so many people just dismissing this tool like it's was just another thing.

>>715761669

>>715762264
>A.I just makes everything worse
How

>>715763149
Saar what is a saas

>>715761669
damn just like literally any other method used to cut costs that consequently reduced product quality

>>715763467
You don't really seem to know what that word means and probably should have asked ChatGPT before posting so you'd only be an idiot instead of looking like one.

It's so hard to have an "A.I." thread because to the absolute dimwits of the world, the only thing "The A.I." does is make art, music, and movies.
Why do you think people who actually solve problems for a living aren't bitching about A.I.?

>>715763679
you seem to be shilling and disparaging AI at the same time now. Take a break, get some rest anon

>>715763679
Could you tell me?

>>715761312 (OP)

>vibe code yourself thousands of lines of code
>coworker asks how some of the methods generated by the AI work which you can just shrug at
>end up spending more time debugging the AI code when you could have just written it yourself

>>715763679
Anti-ai freaks are a grift my dude.
They act no better than cancel culture leftists back in 2012.

>>715762264
Because the tech industry is completely out of ideas and can no longer innovate. They're all basically gambling as hard as possible on AI because they have no other promise of any "next big thing" to continue making the line go up. This is the final gamble before it all comes crashing down.

>>715761525
>breaks when any update happens
Python is fucking garbage. The only reason Docker (more like cocker) is popular is because Python projects are fucking impossible to use 2 weeks after they're released because everything always fucking breaks.

>>715761312 (OP)
Bots, you're not supposed to be justifying your existence. You're supposed to be shilling whatever gacha it is you're shilling. Currently Uma Musume, I understand. I've never seen anyone outside of streamers play that.

>>715763003
damn this is pretty interesting

Weird form of support because he's thrown them to the wolves of some gamers who will screech if you use even one element with AI. Even if its for some background item you forgot about because who remembers every little detail over the course of a 2-3+ year development cycle? Who cares if it's one honest mistake, if you didn't disclose that you used AI for it, you're getting publicly flogged by the anti-AI police.

>>715763467
anti-anything by definition cannot be a grift since it's not designed to part fools from their wallet

>>715764212
>anti-anything by definition cannot be a grift since it's not designed to part fools from their wallet

>>715761312 (OP)
Not necessarily coding better but coding more interesting things.

>>715761669
>experts and industry leaders are pretty much all in agreement that AI is a great tool
That's great, but what OpenAI et al promised was some multi trillion dollar miracle industry that hasn't happened and isn't even close to happening, all while burning hundreds of billions of dollars just to keep the lights on with nothing to show for it except utterly catastrophic losses that will inevitably burst the largest economic bubble in human history.

ChatGPT has been around for three years and the best you can say is that it's kind of neat and somewhat useful as a search engine replacement in a limited set of use cases. No one has launched an extremely successful business using AI as their foundation, no one has made a miracle AI product that has revolutionized the world the same way smartphones did; it's all just nebulous "agent" bullshit that even the people trying to sell it to you can't actually come up with any real use for which is why they are begging everyone else to do it for them. Oh please invest millions in our platform for our LLM that is going to change the world, just don't ask us how it's going to do that; that's for you to figure out!

>>715761312 (OP)
Yeah, ironically coders and programmers will be hit harder by AI then artists. AI art of any kind will always carry the stigma of not being made a real person and lessen the quality of whatever product it's attached to. "Why should I pay any money for this game/skin when it wasn't even made by a real person?".

Code is more nebulous in the eyes of the public and the culture surrounding STEM and programing is very autistic and individualistic, boarding on sociopathy. Their won't be a banding together moment to protect themselves against AI replacement so they'll get the biggest cuts with little public backlash.

>>715763949
because of human errors, AI will fix that

>>715764645
>and isn't even close to happening
Nvidia is worth 4 trillion and is ushering in an era of robotics.

What the fuck are you smoking seriously?

>>715764645
you have no idea how much AI is already being used by game developers

>>715764703
Give it about 5-10 years of companies using AI and vibe coders to write all their software with zero understanding of security, debugging, etc. It will be absolute fucking armageddon as all of these retarded companies get blown the fuck out by vulnerabilities and exploits the likes of which have never been seen in the modern era. Actual software engineers and cybersecurity experts will paid exorbitant consulting fees just to come in and say "it's all fucked and you have to start from scratch, if you can even afford to."

>>715761312 (OP)
Everyone I know that does any type of programming for work has been using AI to assist them in doing stuff that would waste too much time so they can focus on the important shit.

>>715764703
>Yeah, ironically coders and programmers will be hit harder by AI then artists.
You know this isn't true. Way more artists have lost their jobs than coders and coders can, because of their intelligence, find new decent jobs. They can also use AI more effectively than artists can(or more importantly will, since artists have to virtue signal).

>"Why should I pay any money for this game/skin when it wasn't even made by a real person?".
These people do not exist. You're like the people advocating for hardware in an emulation thread or the people saying Genshin Impact isn't a real game while every weeb plays it every day.

>>715761312 (OP)

Building games has never been easier.

I just tell my slave bitch ChatGPT to see if there are any errors in my code, and it proofreads everything. Coding used to be all about how good you are at growing through tremendous lines of code and detecting errors, but that shit is no longer needed when AI is around.

Trooners and their programming socks are over.

>"b-b-b-but poo!!"
Kill yourself, Luddite.

>>715761312 (OP)
Good. CompSci fags have been up their ass about their programming ability for decades. Its a means to an end, not some cockwaving contest.

Been using AI for a shopify store's css code. Practically eliminates the need to ever hire a designer ever again and I'm able to just type in what I want and get perfect code. I've actually learned how to write simple shit after memorizing some of the easy ones too
I do think it's still bullshit for things like games and movies though.

>>715761968
Yeah, I'm sure the guy who got massively rich off of predicting how content would be distributed in the future is just some bumbling fool right now because Mr. Anon over there doesn't agree with him.
The arrogance only a complete retard can have.

>>715765441
Gotta clarify what I meant
Bullshit for things like ART in games and movies***

>>715761312 (OP)
Makes sense. Someone who has been programming for years knows only what he believes the system can do, while someone who uses AI still believes in things that the programmer knows through experience is wrong. The AI in turn can easily find solutions and work-arounds that the programmer never thought of or completely dismissed before as false.

>another dubious article with no link or even website banner
everytime lol

>>715761968
>>715762885
>>715765481
And don't forget. AI will never ever improve.

>>715765481
Geniuses can always get it wrong the second time.

>>715765017
Nvidia is no more an AI company than they are a video game company. You wouldn't say the video game industry is worth trillions of dollars because Nvidia produces the hardware that drives games, would you? People bought fucktons of GPUs to do crypto mining, that doesn't mean their stock valuation was representative of the value of cryptocurrency. Christ almighty.

The actual AI industry--that is, the companies producing LLMs and software that make up the actual use cases for what people call AI--is collectively worth less than the smartwatch industry. They aren't even close to being profitable, and in fact have no path to profitability given their extreme ongoing costs. Their conversion rates on free to paying customers are absolutely abysmal, and they all lose money even on people who are paying for high tier plans. These companies do not. fucking. make. any. money. "Ohh but they said they made 10 billion dollars" yeah and it cost them fucking 90 billion to get there, and they'll need another 90 billion next year, all while failing to improve their products in any substantial way or come up with anything new, because LLMs are already a fucking dead end after three years.

>>715761669
I just don't get it to be honest.
Every time I try to get AI to do anything it half asses barely functional slop that I spend more time debugging than using, and if I'd just learned to do the thing myself I'd understand it better and waste less time later on.

Maybe its because AI is bad at GDScript?
Are there any solid video series on getting results with AI? I only ask because Gabe isn't retarded and hearing it from him I kinda want to look at it again so see if it was a skill issue.

>>715765651

>>715761850
your country produces nothing but faggots obsessed with the US

>>715761436
can I get an actual job despite letting ai do my python programming?

>>715765690
We weren't talking about video games. I'm obviously talking about the multi trillion dollar plays in motion right now. It's fine if you want to act like a drooling retard that can't see the LLM tidal wave that's going to sweep through all white collar industries but you can't ignore what's going on with robotics and health and Nvidia and their AI hardware is at the center of that.

>>715765693
>I just don't get it to be honest.
Honestly this is just because you're dumb and that's okay, not everyone can be smart. People have become millionaires using chatgpt. If you can't understand how, you're just an ignorant and retarded bastard.
Another proof of this is that you can't imagine the obvious future where the tools are better, and you can't understand that them just being slightly better means immense gains.

>>715761312 (OP)
kek agreed. ive become highly proficient in programming thanks to my AI buddy. ive made blazing fast programs that efficiently use over 1000 CPU cores and i dont even know c++. my AI buddy has taught me about efficient thread safe programming best practices and even helps me find memory leaks. he even showed me how to make thingsike Makefiles and maven so i can stop using all in one IDEs like a scrub.

i learned C a couple years ago before i met my AI partner and now i can do anything i want it feels like

python, c, java, c++, bash, you name it and i can code it at high level and adhering to industry best practices thanks to my AI buddy

>>715764703
>Yeah, ironically coders and programmers will be hit harder by AI then artists
Not really? AI artists are pretty much taking over quite a lot of popular job listing for your average artists, more people are learning how to use AI rather than draw. And to be honest, if you put some effort into making sure your gens aren't complete shit. You can easily pass as an artist 99% of the time.
Not to mention, AI does things when it comes to visual medium that no traditional artist can even do.

>>715766045
Anon I didn't mention the future of AI, of course it will improve.

ai made me a lot of money.
not a few more months and I’ll be able toto afford a GT3 RS.
feels good

>>715765690
Those companies have no path to profitability because generative AI models are inherently non-marketable as a product and impossible to insert in our current socioeconomic system, the costs in terms of investments and energy are the least of their issues.
AI does have its uses in some fields like medicine, but people who think generative AI and LLMs are going to explode in two more weeks are utterly retarded, the global economy is already in the fucking gutter and techbros are only pushing us further into total collapse by firing literal hundreds of thousands of people around the world
>inb4 some bot "thinks" we're getting UBI in a couple of years

>>715766172
Then you aren't so dumb but it was implied that you didn't understand that.

>>715765690
https://www.businessinsider.com/in-2000-businessweek-wondered-how-will-google-ever-make-money-2009-3

>>715761312 (OP)
I was surprised it knew about ultra-niche stuff for my engine. Sure, you have to read the code it makes and so on, but it's the same if a second person was working on this engine, you've to read the code they make. Hypothetically. NO one wanted to work on the engine before though so why would you complain now?

>>715761312 (OP)
Ah sick, so valve is about to be dethroned. This is the type of nonsense people who think they're about to reach new heights say before the plummet.
Better sell some of those yachts now gay ben.

>>715766182
>we're interfering an era where the elites will suck up 99% of the wealth using AI
>you're going to piss away your chance at a good future on a car

it's amazing to watch the slow motion meltdown of an entire generation (millennials) over AI. never seen anything like it in my life and probably never will again. i can only assume the next five years are going to get absolutely insane as my peers scramble to try and make themselves relevant in their mid-late 30's with a completely nuked job market.
one thing that strikes me as so peculiar is the unanimous fear and anger AI strikes in the white, millennial demographic, whether it's on 4chan, reddit, or twitter. despite their differences in ideology and taste, there's something they all fear more than anything, and that's being made professionally redundant by a computer program.

>>715766198
>>715765690
>maybe if I pretend AI companies don't make money ... people will take me seriously
>hurr durr what are initial investments and how do they work??

>>715761669
Nobody on earth besides programmers gives a shit if a game is programmed by AI or not. they never see it and as long as it works nobody cares. AI music, art, voice acting, animation and the overall lack of creative vision is slapping you in the face if its not matching the quality and care of real work, this isn't a simple ai good ai bad. There are great uses for it and terrible, lazy ones.

>>715766182
How?

>>715766436
>as long as it does what I can't, it's fine
okay so why can't coders use it to make art

>tell chatGPT to make me best seller video game
>constructs a full functional AAA title and markets it for me without any effort
>am now millionaire
sorry game devs, it's over

>>715766310
yeah its only millennials having a melt down and not zoomers who are just entering/exiting expensive university courses and are being told 75%+ of all knowledge work, especially entry level work they rely on will vanish by the time they get out and are saddled with massive amounts of debt. If you aren't concerned about the shift from full employment to mass unemployment (even if you have a stable job) then you are a complete retard. Even the people building the AI models are openly concerned about this.

Gabe Jewell was a mid coder though. Boomers from rich families like him lucked out by being at the right place at the right time and made free millions with 0 competition during their time and location. Now that information is free there are millions of chinese, russians in githubs mogging the shit out of average westoid developers including boomers and get hired to work 10 times more for 0.1% of what people like Gabe got paid in their youth.
>But he made video games?
No. Modders did it for them. Some of them become employees/got paid. Some didn't. This was the case since the development of half life 1. He couldn't even add some fucking moss or vines to half life 2.
His only notable accomplishment was porting quake or something.
He also got filtered by ps3 which to be fair is understandable for an average person, but not for a veteran professional.

The truth is he is Elon Musk of gaming. Way overblown by cultists. Just some stupid fat jew who got lucky by being in right place at right time. A meme that was taken seriously by retards. Meme, remember? GabeN is a meme, not actual fucking talented person you should take advice from.

Also AI is meme too.

>>715766872
>I know what the impact of AI is better than an billionate that has a massive corporation
fuck off

the AI hype is based on the same fallacy as moore's law. yeah sure, we got really fast and really small computers in a relative short amount of time. but ho ho what do you know, we dont have super computers the size of a blood cell today as was predicted, and probably never will, because of physical limitations.

AI its the same thing. the assumption is that AI will get better at coding than humans, then will be able to improve its own code making it even better at programming, which will alow it to improve its own code even more, which will allow it improve its own code even more, which will...

its like chuck tingles "fucked in my butt by my own book, "" fucked in my butt by my own book....

everyones seems to be missing the obvious, that "code" doesnt keep getting better and better exponentially

>>715766313
AI companies do not in fact make money, they survive purely through techbros' gibs because megalomaniacs like Thiel have more or less infinite money to throw at them and own the government so they get to do whatever the fuck they want, for now.
And even putting all of this aside for a moment, unemployment rates are rising sharply due to the AI bubble gaslighting greedy CEOs so hard they're firing people en masse and bowing to the AI god, praying for a very uncertain future, while you're here LARPing as a self made millionaire together with your hypothetical thousands of other chatGPT self made millionaires the rest of the world is seeing this bullshit for what it is, you're not ready for what's coming in the very near future.

>>715766310
It's untalented brown zoomer artists that hate it the most by far. The #2 camp is so small it's barely worth mentioning them but it's liberal sjw types but most of them don't really care.

>>715766247
>how will google ever make money
>from when they followed the mantra don't be evil
>when google video wasn't more ads than content like youtube is now
>when they didn't sell your identity
>when they didn't have have subscription fees that increase massively in price every few months
Yeah they made money because they 180'd on all of their principles and enshittified to the max. Are LLMs going down the same road? Sounds like a bright future awaits us saars.

>>715761312 (OP)
Hes not wrong. You need vision to make a good or even great game and i've seen lots of programmers who can easily program a game but coudln't design one for the life of them

>>715766872
>hk416 outta nowhere

>>715766758
Because i can see your shitty no taste coomer art, you were never able to see anyone's code unless there were crashes or a performance melt down. as long as you hit the resolution of the era and 60fps nobody gave a shit how you did it. Also because coders in artistic fields are glorified brick layers whereas the writers, artists, composers, animators, game designers etc... are the key staff that people buy the game for. I buy ace combat because of the composer, I buy kojima games because of him and shinkawa, I buy nier because of yoko taro and yoshida character design, I have never in my life bought a game because of beautiful code and i never will, it is a process that would have been automated out with or without AI, game engines were already working to remove it.

>>715766923
billionates lie and deceive though
they can not be trusted

>>715767034
>Because i can see your shitty no taste coomer art
fucking lmao
luddies are amazing man

>>715766872
didn't he work for microsoft from 1980 to like 93

>>715763467
>Isn't anti-ai more of a grift because they start unnecessary drama?
>unnecessary
Even luddite angle aside AI enables churning out drowning amounts of low quality content while also requiring an immense amount of resources to run, we're burning a fuckton of power to make shitty yellow pictures with six fingers it's grim
>n-no you'll see once they invent AGI
Not without a qualitative breakthrough in computing tech they won't

>>715766775
>I catch rain in a bottle and sell it for a million dollars

>>715767191
You know charging your phone takes more power than making hundreds of AI images, right?

>>715767184
yes that's how he became rich
you could just get in harvard and shit if rich and not nigger stupid and get to working at microsoft right away during that period of time

>>715767275
It was a figure of speech, and it doesn't

>>715767152
>my AI slop asset isn't visible in the game
oh so you regularly generate assets that you dont actually display on screen? Do you have any other logic defying retard arguments to start?

>>715766937
>AI companies do not in fact make money
Yes they do. Deepseek is a great example of that, they made back all their money immediately, within literal seconds of opening up their saas.
Midjourney is profitable.
Hailuo AI is profitable.
NovelAI is profitable.
Runway is profitable.
Cursor is profitable.
Kling is profitable.
90% of smaller services that don't build their own models are profitable.
And even Google is profitable but more importantly they're working on surprisingly altruistic things.
Microsoft is obviously profitable even if they lose the AGI race(which is unlikely), there are a billion ways they can use the datacenters and AIs they're developing to make back their investments. Including hosting future AIs someone else makes.

You people are the kind of drooling retards that evolved in Africa, you can't see the world for what it is and you have no concept of the future.

Misconception that coding was ever hard. You can ask the chatbot to spew hundreds of scripts your way, but if you think these things are in anyway constructive enough to follow through with a whole project you're wrong. Use it as an alternative to a search engine as google is shit nowadays and stackoverflow sold out.

I still have about 10 more years before I even have to start considering whether AI is worth worrying about. It won't matter anyway because I'll have retired at age 40 because programming positions pay a stupidly ridiculous amount of money.

>>715766957
The future doesn't have to be bright. It just has to be the future.

>>715767275
It's literally the opposite lmao

>>715763467
yes lol
have you ever actually watched an anti-AI video? it's literally a bunch of fucking lies

Tech industry is overall disgusting.
We should nuke them all.
I just think they are scourge to humanity's well being with all the cancerous shit they brought us.
Let the open source free software chads take over.

Do you guys really don't use any AI/LLM at your work now? You guys have a job right?

>>715764212
they're literally encouraging you to watch their content and to buy (((home-made goods))) because of heckin feelings
it's nothing but a grift

>>715761312 (OP)
AI makes trash HDL code

>>715767325
>Theoretical profit margins

>>715767421
I'm literally going to impregnate my sexchat wife with her 5th baby tonight.
The earth can understand.

DOWN WITH TECHNOLOGY!

>>715767470
luddites are so fucking weird

>>715761669
>experts and industry leaders agree they will save money be peddling AIslop, while consumers and workers agree they are going to get fucked

How do I use these tools to replace SWE please help it keeps hallucinating things even on new context windows AGI by 2023? Sam? Hello?

>>715767574
based

>>715761669
>/v/ shits on everyone and everything industry the industry says or does
>B-But they’re right about AI not being astroturfed and it having a lot of uses as a tool! Trust the science!
Kys, shilling faggot

>>715765780
indians get jobs despite just being code monkies trolling github.
Its fairly accurate stuff as well, I used it at first to help program my game, and eventually it started offering whole new code which helped refine everything.
The only problem is sometimes it makes weird mistakes, I've had to correct it before but it can take that and work with it. As long as you know some basics about code and debugging you should be able to work with any mistakes its making.

>>715767673
and progressives are gay and retarded, you think like one because you both fundamentally believe that rapid change and reform is a virtue.

>>715765064
They will be BTFO'd, in your eyes, by:
a) companies that keep full circa 2017 staff of programmers around
OR
b) companies with less than half as many expert prompt engineers (they can program as well of course) + a small crew of people that code where AI doesn't work yet

I mean I dont know jack shit about programing and I decided to try to make a simple game with just AI doing the job
Everything is working fine so far

>>715767421
Why are you posting such a blatant lie? You can generate pictures are home in seconds, you cannot charge your phone in seconds.

>>715767714
Someone? Anyone? Hello?

>>715762885
The mistakes are always so absurd and I cant figure out why llm buddy is doing it, but anyone that thinks this isnt the future is a fool, coding is a language just as any other, if an llm exists by its language models, then theres no reason to believe it cant translate english to code just as it translates english to french or whatever.

>>715767934
>a wild schizophrenic appears

>>715768079
Exactly, here is why nocode is the future:

>>715767971
You're the kind of person Gabe is talkin about. While others will be mad, you'll make fun vidya.

>>715766929
But AI needs to catch up to an existing intelligence. You just need to build a system that's about as good as a brain (another real thing), microscopic computers never existed, there's no prior example to claim they should exist.

>>715765693
>turns out using AI is a skill
One day you'll realize you're 4 years behind everyone else.

>>715768037
ask a different model.

>>715761312 (OP)
and imagine how efficient a programmer who can double check would be
it's a tool for professionals not something to uplift retarded people into their dream positions

>>715768080
>luddites are crazy
Says the stupid weeb who worships one of the most conservative, luddite cultures on earth.

>>715761624
Deadlocks matchmaking fucking sucks though

>>715768203
isnt refactoring other peoples code more annoying that just writing it yourself?

>>715761525
>install fagapp-0.0003
>requires python 3.09
>python 3.13 won't work
>install 3.09 alongside 3.13
>requires prequisite 0.15.3-a
>no other version of that works
>0.15.3-a is suspiciously missing from all mirrors
>hosted only on a MEGA that got suspended 2 years ago for CP
>find copy of prerequisite 0.15.3-a
>requires 6 other prerequisites that have the same rigamarole

>>715768201
I asked Claude for a simple camera script and it gave me something broken 3 times and burned a ton of the guys tokens...

You can't seriously be a coder and a luddite. It's an oxymoron. The field itself is built on automation and abstraction. When you do a bash script to wake someone up at 9am, use non-assembly, when you use assembly. It's built *into* the field. I'm making waker-ups obsolete with that very script. If you were a waker-upper? Sucks to be you. I've made it obsolete thanks to my amazing script.

>>715768239
what?

>>715762264
New arms race with China

>>715766929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzgyksS5pX8

>>715768149
>microscopic computers never existed
Quantum computers?

>>715765182
lol the only coders keeping their jobs these days are indians

>>715768079

There's many different words in the French language than the English language, and same applies to translating a speakable language to a computing language. Pattern recognition will help, but you'll never get exactly what you want from a prompt based solution without a bunch of back and forth.

>>715768560
If you believe the laid off microsoft employees will have trouble with new jobs you're insanely retarded.

>>715768614
I doubt they will have trouble working at mcdonalds

>>715762264
It's all marketing hype. The AI doomsday fags are basically free advertising for Nvidia.

>>715766045
>People have become millionaires using chatgp
Ok retard
Love how you proofed against needing to provide evidence lmao

>>715767421
Personally, I don't give a shit about the "environmental impact".
Littering is bad not because it changes the planet from some pure natural ideal, but because it makes my living space gross.
AI first and foremost pollutes my cultural living space, which is the core reason that I hate it.

>>715768385
The origin of your beloved anime culture is fucking black and white drawings because they still print them on paper and never progressed to printing in colour, japan still uses fax machines and wax stamps, half their family businesses are for arcane skills that are hundreds of years old, anime itself is still made in 720p and is hand drawn when the rest of the world abandoned that method of creation decades ago. The reason japan is appealing is they dont jump from trend to trend and abandon generations of expertise like a third world monkey chasing a new scam, they heavily resist change and perfect what they already do.

if they had your mentality 2d anime wouldn't even exist, they would have abandoned the skillset the way the Americans did.

I think what most people seething about coders don't understand is they made bank during covid and even if ai got infinitely better overnight they still won

>>715768732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irEi7DVBHdA

>>715768768
see>>715768080

I refuse to use AI, not because of it's danger, but due to the loss of knowledge.
think about it, in the last decades, there was already many things related to creation that were lost due to people no longer doing them
AI is increasing this tenfold, I do not want to be in a world where all old methods got forgotten and people no longer know how to do things, instead they just "ask the AI", this already has started happening as new generations no longer knows how to use computers or the internet, and so, they forget, and old mistakes ends up happening again when they should have being learned, or even things to aggravate worse than before.

I want games to still be made by people with their own knowledge and way to do things, not using things without understanding anything and repeating over and over because it's "productive" (they are lazy)

>>715765693
>people laugh at me when I say that you need to actually study prompt engineering now
Get fucked. Learning how to prompt is a real skill that you need to practice it before you get left behind.

>>715765481
AI will die for real this time, just two more weeks!

>>715762264
That’s like saying computers were forced on us. Technology that can fit into every day life is going to end up everywhere regardless of whether people like it or not.

>>715768768
Well, making them black and white is also a good way of saving costs.

>>715768845
ok, you're boring, no need to reply.

>>715768852
>You can't ask GPT to teach you new things

>>715768920
if japan wasn't a luddite culture they would have shifted to reading manga on phones and wouldn't be printing anything. korea isnt a luddite culture and invented webtoons.... which are shit. There is value in perfecting old methods of creation long past when tech enthusiast deem it retarded or outmoded. The retards jump on the hype train, destroy their workflows an expertise, then it wraps around and the retarded luddite eats your culture industry because they moved glacially over decades and just steadily improved what they were already doing while you died chasing technology.

This article title is pretty misleading because he just implies you could get way better at coding using AI in a shorter time, which makes sense because it's just a glorified search engine and if you use search engines frequently to code you've already experienced that.

>>715768852
Yes, using better google is losing knowledge, just like using computer was so much worse than wasting time in library. Enjoy your horse carriage, I guess.

>>715766929
AI doesn't need to improve exponentially to become smarter than humans. It just needs to improve logistically (S-curve).
Also it's not about the "code" getting better, but the whole amalgam -- mostly the trained weights. But really, it's implementation substratum independent.

>>715761525
no, that'd be Rust
great to program while I doing my dilation therapy four times a day

>>715769129
AI can bullshit you way more easily than google, and it will always pretend to tell the truth
"AI this "AI that" none of it is superior to the old methods, hell, the internet is probably in one of it's worst state right now and AIs only made things worse
Soon people will forget everything that used to be good and worked

https://youtu.be/_2C2CNmK7dQ

>>715761669
yeah it's great because they can reduce employee overhead which is one of their biggest costs
if they can fire 9/10 of their workers, even if the remaining guy is only 50% more productive with AI, they'll do it

>>715769237
Just enable the search function idiot

>>715768794
>"valuation at-'
>entire business model is shitting out terrible mommy porn books and selling them to boomers
>"buy my course-"
Lol
Lmao

>>715769327
>kid has made half a million in profit
>clear trend to be a millionaire even if he doesn't sell
>"t-t-that doesn't count"
>was the first example I found in 5 seconds
damn you're mad

>>715768852

Think of a real complex game and all the mechanics and then try to think how to shove all that into some prompt. The average user isn't making shit unless they have some knowledge of how everything should be connected.

Art is probably fucked though if we're talking 2D sprites along with creative writing as you can generate that slop in droves. 3D is still safe as AI is still incompetent at reptopology and animation

Though, I have to say that having a personal AI assistant trained on your 2D art to make animation does sound pretty based as fuck doing that by hand.

>>715761486
>>715761525
Python is supposed to be used by those who understand other high level languages as a toolbox of shortcuts. Instead it has been adopted by many computer science college programs (boot camps and minors) who have given up on fundamentals and core concepts. Which has led to the data science field inflating even further to produce dogwater frameworks and products. They use the excuse that big data was the buzzword of the year after microservices. Now not only the code rot is rampant but so is the basics of all involved.

>>715769448
I don't care if it's faster, AI art will always look like utter trash compared to actual good art by humans, it has no use beside placeholder elements and possibly inspirations
if I go to a restaurant I don't go there to eat some microwave mass produced shit
Same with code, maybe AI code can somewhat work but a code made by a regular person will always be cleaner, have less glitches and much much more importantly : be much easier to be fixed if there's bugs as you understand all that's going on

AI will lead to a generation of lazy people, then of people who forgot everything and think AI can do everything, it will lead to nothing positive in anything that's related to art and creation.

>>715769415
The guy is one step above being a literal pajeet scammer LMAOA

>>715761312 (OP)
all the more reason to comfort myself with the knowledge that once I'm kicked out of my industry, I can always kill myself

>>715769671
>AI art will always look like utter trash
you can't even tell it's made by AI lol

>>715761669
lol based

>>715768852
you can already see this happened with art and the shift to digital, even the best digital artists cant draw with the same freedom and mastery as the boomers who were forced to do everything by hand and without undo. modern anime and animators are shit in comparison, they use endless shortcuts and dont have the patience for solid form or subtle motion, high effort is now all hyperactive web gen spaghetti. people like oshii say they could never make a new gits film because the skillset is gone.

>>715769107
I heard they have subscription models for manga already, but yeah, I'd rather they not go for colour like capecomics do only because it's the latest trend.

>>715769730
I can tell, not because of the style (though often I can tell by lazy default style) but because the subject matter and design is boring because it was made by an npc with no vision. your counter argument will be that i cant tell the difference between mediocre hobby art and AI art (in most cases i probably still can) and that's because they are both shit, formulaic and vapid in the same ways.

>>715764703
AI art is already used in COD and -literally- no one cares. Twitter artists are very loud and not indicative of the market.

>>715761624
Guess Valve is dead

>>715769960
>I can tell,
no you can't

>>715769960
>I can tell,
I'm sure you can anon.

>>715761669
If you go more than one code prompt deep with AI it falls apart and shits itself. It's all a scam that's been tuned to be a one prompt wonder.

>>715770092
Pathetic that (You) can't. What games did you play today btw?

>Power tools will enable people who don't know carpentry to be more effective than people who have been doing carpentry for a decade

>>715769960
>I can tell,
You can't tell, anyone who is selling this lie doesn't know how good AI is

>>715770026
cod is already creatively bankrupt, why is anyone going to complain that their boring designs were generated by AI when the quality remains at the same level of generic and shit.

>>715770158
you and I both know you can't tell

>>715770168
Wear your fucking glasses

>>715768852
lol, okay zoomer, your time is up, the alphas and betas are now in charge!

>>715770116
>Posts generic anime waifu #48539847340986340
wow, im so surprised that AI can draw coomer fan art, ive never seen that before, its not like 99.999% of all AI art is coomers generating boring pre-existing designs of anime girls. The determining factor is always lack of vision.

>>715768852
every time I've used AI as a search engine it just says
>Great question! Let's explore that together!
Like it's fucking Dora the explorer and then it literally makes shit up that doesn't exist.

So yeah I agree with you. Regular search engines might be shittier than ever before but they don't lie to me

>>715770163
Wow, if you completely change what he said to something different it sure looks stupid.

>>715761727
2 more weeks rajesh

>>715770116
That's a funny way to bait someone you know is arguing off of mostly emotions

>>715770318
LMAO

what has gabe actually done in the last 20 years

>>715770318
>>715770428
Gottem
https://ja.gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=34609

>>715770527
Eat

What the tech world needs:
nocode
cloud
more indians
blockchain
metaverse
more ai

>>715769960

>>715766957
>ads

will I receive junior modeling agency ads?

>>715770116
nta, her thighs give it away. AI is good enough for sloppa and some on model cunny stuff, albeit real loli artists popularize it more and more now bless them, but AI will never have the human element of expression in it.
Anyway hope all the artists will flip burgers who try to scam people with their fees, good artists will continue to make good art where as the shitty twitter "I fixed your art" people will all get filtered lol.

>>715770486
>>715770590
> your counter argument will be that i cant tell the difference between mediocre hobby art and AI art (in most cases i probably still can) and that's because they are both shit, formulaic and vapid in the same ways.
Theres a reason you chose a picture of a generic coomer anime girl, because that is the vanguard of AI art vs human, the person who made that image and the people prompting are both npcs.

>>715770527
Played Dota 2. Eat. Buy like 7 yachts. Fail to push VR. Take Ozympic.

>>715770682
all you had to do was reverse image search

>>715769110
its a little dumb though, once you learn to read docs + search for the things you need, the AI search only saves you a small amount of time.
And I can also see it leading to even MORE codemonkeys who don’t understand what they are copy pasting from the AI. Which doesn’t work unless your tech stach is completely cookie cutter.

>>715770784
so the artist baits "its aI" by making AI mistakes?
Sounds like a funny thing to troll "I can spot AI" people, worked on me kek.
Good bait.

>>715770682
>nta, her thighs give it away.
LMAO

>>715770318
>falling for such an obvious bait
absolute state of luddites

>>715770836
?
That art is long before AI was a thing

>>715770745
>>715770682
>>715770318
>>715770836
you can't tell

>>715770836
it's a reflection you mongoloid

>>715770527
He bought one of the best submarines in the world and owns a team doing deep sea research
I think his son is a racecar driver and he owns the racing team also

>>715770673
I already said mediocre artwork is hard to distinguish from AI because its both formulaic and lacking vision. you're playing gotcha with a retarded man made image with three legs because if you move beyond pinup girls in becomes increasingly easy to tell based on design, subject matter, meaning and composition.

>>715770909
didnt see the mirror, then its not AI.
Still, baiting AI posts with intentional mistakes sounds like fun.

>>715770925
just take the L you loser
you cannot tell you can only assume

>>715770854
You can insult all you want but you'll be regretting when your AI stop working and suddenly you are unable to do anything because you forgot how to even do simple things in life, let alone complex task
Does anyone remember that Wall-E movie? this is what AI will eventually lead

>>715770980
it's not an insult
look it up

>>715770980
Except in Wall-E the AI actually worked.

>>715770964
>all art is anime pinup girls
Im tired of talking to stupid coomers. I already pre-empted your argument and addressed it.

>>715770980
>fiction? nah that's real
the absolute state of consoomers

Reminder that every luddite is a phoneposter

>>715771065
>Araki
>pinup girls

>>715771065
>doubling down after losing the argument
...Thor? Is that you?

>>715761486
>Python is worthless shit
lol ok bro, then why is 99% of the code that i see on hugging face thats related to these models all python?

>>715762264
>A.I just makes everything worse
user error, git gud

I just use ChatGPT as a faster Google. Remember when Google was actually fast.

>>715771235
Jeets

>>715771143
show me the picture he is talking about, was it a full manga page or was it a solitary anime figure stealing a pre-existing design and style like 99.9% of AI art. you arent listening to what im saying and im tired of repeating myself. You're the kind of idiot who thinks that its impossible to tell when you're talking to an idiot or a bot as long as the grammar is correct, I can tell because there's no substance to what is being said.

>>715761669
>experts and industry leaders are pretty much all in agreement that AI is a great tool.
they sure do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1dsXC5S4ek

>>715761312 (OP)
Wtf I just spend my next allowance in steam?

>>715771349
Ohnonono
Jeetbros?

Kek and I'm sure Valve will be hiring these more effective vibe coders, right?

>>715771302
>spoiler
What the fuck is going on with google anyway? The image search is worse than yandex, the normal search is fucking sanitized despite all the options turned off and now you get half a page filled with AI schizo ramblings about random facts like "water might be bad for you". Are they trying to be bad on purpose?

>>715771349
>you know im not a luddite
how to inform everyone that you are indeed a luddite

>>715771349
oh my god those alien designs are brilliant, my indian bones are quaking at the creativity on display, its impossible to tell it was made with AI.

>>715761312 (OP)
No, what is happening is that almost tasks that were usually for junior and entry level jobs are now getting automated by LLM/Agentic approaches resulting in companies just not hiring any more. The cope of "But now you can skip the onboarding process" is just blatantly wrong, without entry level tasks a new hire is even more useless and requires way more onboarding by the senior staff.

All the "AI" shit did was squeeze more productivity out of the current work force and bar newer hires entry into jobs.

>>715762702
With Carmack at least I can see a genuine interest to move beyond a slightly more sophisticated search engine into something that can think and deserves to be called AI that doesn’t come from marketing shills.

>>715761312 (OP)

99.99999% of things people say about AI should be ignored because the only people who understand the topic at all are the handful of scientists creating these fucking things. Gabe does not know anything about AI. Neither does Elon. Neither does Zuckerberg.

>>715771559
google is so shit now i actually for the first time in my life am able to use other search engines and not be frustrated by their inferior output.

AI is only good when it is being used by talented and morally good people, not by scummy third worlders and other talentless hacks who exploit it to gain profits off it.

>>715771690
>im a fucking retard so everyone else on earth must be
this is the go to argument whenever you try and argue specifics with an AI enthusiast, its exactly like a religion, the god in the gaps, the infinite seeming capability in their stupidity.

AI is really good at churning. Any code that is either very repetitive or has tons of prior examples is no problem for LLMs.

But why are you as a programmer even intending to write repetitive code? Why are you reinventing the wheel if it's been done before? You wouldn't need AI if you had a library/framework that already does the job.

Increasingly I feel AI use is a sign of a history of bad programming practices and junior devs are not giving themselves any favors by relying on it.

>>715771204
Not only are you an npc you're a fucking boring, terminally online zoomer who watches e-celeb drama and relates every experience through that brain dead lens, dont talk to me, I'm losing IQ points and turning into an AI algorithm to more I interact with you.

>>715772030
There's a difference between "labor" coding and "toil" coding
AI is very good at toil
Labor still requires a semi-skilled hand a programmer at the helm if it's a complex process
That said I think the majority of things possible in non-VR videogames have already been done, AI will speed development of games up dramatically

>>715761669
>literally experts say

>>715761669
experts and industry leaders are pretty much all in agreement that hiring pajeets is a great idea.

>>715762702
>people like it that mean they shills
you are so fuckin retarded

>>715763527
saved

>>715761669
>experts and industry leaders
>in the western AAA game industry
>have something to say
>and we should listen
>while their entire industry collapses due to their never ending incompetence

>>715761312 (OP)
I made a clicker with AI, it was simple but I know jack shit about codding and I "made it" took like 3 afternoons though.

>>715772256
Oh, Grok, explain this meme to me in 5 words or less!

>>715772124
That's my point. If it's been done before it should be a reusable library that you simply plug in and use in your project.
Every software company should have a large repository of such libraries that they can use for future projects.

AI is not an abstraction over good code practices, it abstracts the practice period. Because the vast majority of tokens related to programming are exactly that: people churning code with.

>>715771559
I think half of it is them focusing on stupid bullshit and half of it is the insane amount of shit online now. You can no longer think of a semi popular video from 10 years ago, type 3 basic things you remember from it and actually get what you were looking for.

>>715772482
Started saving everything I liked after realizing that some pieces are lost forever now

>>715771817
>AI is only good when I'm not jealous of the people using it
lol

>>715772428
As an aside I think one of Cursor's biggest drawing points is the autocomplete, don't even have to talk to a chatbot if there's one running passively in the background trying to autocomplete what you're doing. I think github copilot does this too, this is more of a useful side tool than actually generating swathes of code

>>715772537
data being buried or straight up deleted off of the internet depresses me even if I have no interest in it. the pornhub purge was insane

>>715771584
Imagine simping for a billion dollar corporation that gives you AIslop

>>715772591
Agreed, I use that. But I don't consider it AI-generated code.

>>715761312 (OP)
I kind of get what he's saying. A kid who just picked up learning guitar after a few years is often enough more interesting to listen to than someone who has been playing guitar for decades. But I don't think programming works the same way.

I'm bored of those redos of wikipedia when everyone takes a position and you gotta be pro- or anti-wikipedia

>>715772657
what corporation you fucking schizo?

>>715764645
>with nothing to show for it
absolutely delusional

>>715764645
>OpenAI hits $10 billion in annual recurring revenue

>be dev
>try AI for giggles
>It shits out code that doesn't even compile regularly

Also first studies show AI slows down experienced Devs by 19% despite those very same Devs thinking they accelerated by 20%.

It's still just an LLM that can't really think.

>>715772768
Oh you're a bot. Nevermind.

>>715769671
You can't actually distinguish proper, well-genned and human-picked out AI art from human drawn art
>but--
You can't. You are thinking of ugly early 2023-style art, which is very simple to detect.
>but AI art is overly detailed
That happens if you don't run a detail-suppressor or detail-remover LORA.
Proper AI art looks indistinguishable

>>715773018
there's alot of stupid people who cant think, for them its god.

>>715764645
Sounds like a skill issue but it’s okay, dumb people do need to exist while everyone else is moving forward :)

>>715772030
This one is no Gopher.

>>715773049
You're assuming that visual similarity is the only metric that matters, but that's missing the entire point of why people value human-created art. Sure, with enough tweaking, AI-generated images can fool the eye—but art isn’t just about tricking people into thinking something looks good or “indistinguishable.” It's about expression, intention, and the process behind it.

AI art lacks a soul. It doesn’t come from lived experience, emotion, or the human condition—it comes from a stochastic parrot regurgitating patterns learned from millions of (often stolen) artworks. Just because a machine can mimic style doesn’t mean it creates meaning. And trying to hide its telltale signs with "detail-suppressors" or "LoRAs" is just admitting that the raw output isn't natural or coherent in the first place.

Also, if the only defense of AI art is "you can’t tell the difference anymore," that’s not a win for AI—it’s a loss for transparency, authorship, and artistic integrity. Deception isn’t a flex.

>>715765064
lol, AI is the new cybersecurity.

>>715773389
Why should I care what your take is when you have either copied most of that post from your open ChatGPT tab, or you sound indistinguishable from it.

But listen, bot, I don't give a shit how much "meaning" is in a cute anime picture of some schoolgirl.

>>715773547
kek, that was the point you retard. You can instantly tell when you're talking to a bot even when the grammar is perfect because there's no substance, you think art is 100% about style and therefore indistinguishable because you're an idiot.

>>715761727
this is already possible now

>>715773687
>kek, that was the point you retard.
No, I got that you dumb fuck. That is why I phrased it like that, repeating my original point of it being indistinguishable.
Don't care about the rest, hid your post.

>>715773812
im glad you finally understood my point to the point where you had to run away from the argument. Its also pretty funny using AI to respond to AI enthusiast spammers, i should do it more often.

>>715766310
>jeets are flooding western companies with “ai” written code
>anyone with a semblance of intellect can see the disaster approaching from fucking miles away
Post hand, ranjeesh.

>>715773389
take your fuckin meds

>>715769820
Many such cases! This is from 1935. Needless to say it's 100% hand drawn.

>>715773687
BTFO

>>715773971
you failed the iq test, sucks being indian.

Chat-GPT is better than Google.

>>715773908
If the AI would have output the cure to AIDS and baldness and by the way casually solved the hard problem of consciousness, all contained in your post, do you think I would have discarded that content so lightly simply because an AI generated it?
I care more about results than you. You have a greater need for a human in the pipeline. For me the human in pipeline is just a kind of sanity check. But if the picture looks good or the text is interesting, I will humor the AI.

>>715773990
AI will do better someday.

>>715761436
based. finally someone using their brains rather than typing "generate me big booby" and then thinking that's what AI is for

It is very satisfying to see artfags lose their job

>>715774301
>generate me big booby
this is the best use of AI

>>715774184
Because you're a 60iq retard who only looks at pictures and thinks on the level of "is my PP hard" and you only read text on the level of a 13 year old having a stupid internet argument. It's fine that your standards for media consumption and generation are so low but dont confuse your monkey brained basic bitch perception with real human awareness of quality and meaning in the things they consume.

when you say something as stupid as AI is already indistinguishable from human shit you are just admitting to being on the level of a porn addict who only consumes images of anime girls. I dont actually care about having a human in the process, i can just tell the standard is worse right now and i dont want to look at AI art any more than i want to talk to stupid AI bots.

>>715761312 (OP)
I just hope Tay drops the nukes

>>715774646
You can't even distinguish AI art from human art but you claim that AI art is of less quality, which is something you couldn't know just off a quality assessment, it's only something you'd know if someone told you.

>>715774184
>Why should I care what your take is when you have either copied most of that post from your open ChatGPT tab
>I will humor the AI.
Tung Tung Tung Saarhur

>>715774861
I'm sorry but we've already covered this ground many times, I even got you to naturally detect the usage of AI to prove my point and you still dont get it. I can ask AI to make a stupid shitpost about nothing and you wouldn't be able to tell it was AI but the minute i ask it to form a coherent and specific argument or response you will be able to smell it because the non-specific, banal, regurgitated stink is all over it just like with AI art.

>>715774646
I have literally recently written papers on Christine Korsgaard's model of Kantian ethics in a sense that includes animal wellbeing, and I am currently working on a defense of threshold deontology. My dream is creating an overall framework that integrates the fact that complex systems evolve over time with a general approach to metaethics. For example, what if humans are no longer around? To what degree can we create automated systems that do not diverge from the original aim over time?

it's completely useless to try and communicate with retarded luddites

>>715761312 (OP)
>dude non-programmers will be using AI to make games!
non-programmers can't overcome the 70/30 problem and probably won't for a few more years at least

>>715774646
>>715775140
>two AIs playing retard
You love to see it.

>>715765768
my country isn't the one spamming 48 threads per hour on this site seething over indians kike worshiping amerimutt

>>715775104
Congratulations, you can recognize a specific writing style. If I paraphrased the points the AI was making it would also fail your smell check, you wouldn't recognize it as AI. It still would be.

>>715765340
>this nigger thinks compilers couldn't already check code for most errors

>>715775209
I like those topics. I consume essays and lectures about metaethics literally for entertainment. I don't need an AI to generate a post stating my interests/projects.

>>715775140
A piece of advice, dont try to sound smart on the internet by trying to sound smart, its cringe and pretentious.

reading philosophy and having dreams of maybe someday hopefully eventually writing something profound is not an indicator of IQ.

>>715775140
>I have literally recently written papers on a w*man philosopher
lol
lmao

>>715761312 (OP)
Based homo Benjamin taking the piss out of anti-AI fags

>>715766313
What AI companies are profitable so far?

>>715775441
If you don't want to make the discussion about intelligence/IQ and how well-read someone is, maybe you shouldn't introduce that point.
>but it was just banter bro
No. I truly believe you/him meant this as some kind of mic-drop argument -- that only people who never read books or write or whatever could find value in AI generated texts.
You can't so easily and insincerely retreat to "it was just an insult bro".

>>715775347
if only code not throwing a syntax error meant it was magically working.
to see software through the eyes of a vibe coder for a day...

>>715773990
How did they do RTX without nvidia?

I'm a software dev at a big corp.
There is no risk of us being replaced by AI in the foreseeable future.
AI programming skills are worse than a Durgasoft University graduate's.
Said Durgasoft University graduate, and millions like him, on the other hand, will be the ones to replace us instead. That's the real danger.

>>715775630
>>715767325

>>715775717
>this LARPING nigger thinks an AI is gonna spot all the nonsyntax errors
caught ya.
AI fucks up that shit all the time.
thats why humans spend more time debugging than if they had just coded it manually.

>>715775736
>he says this in a thread where microsoft just fired thousands of people because of AI

>>715767325
>Midjourney is profitable
Until they get sued into oblivion

>>715775302
It would be an npc post because by nature AI is an amalgam of pre-existing modal opinions. So like i said a billion times, stupid, perfunctory human output with very little meaning or vision is hard to distinguish from AI. output with higher aims and higher density of specific meaning is much easier to distinguish.

That's why you post brain dead anime girls and fan art to prove AI has already surpassed human art.

>>715775826
they've been in court for years and are winning the cases and profitable

>>715775824
you fucking idiot.
microsoft applied for thousands MORE h1b visas to replace those people.
thats what anon was talking about.
the durgasoft grads or whatever.

>>715775824
>because of AI
They laid off 9000, and immediately applied for 14000 H1b jeets.

>>715775889
and they'll fire those people too

>>715775779
reread and learn sarcasm you absolute retard.
im putting you on team vibecoders and you don't get a /s, do better

>>715768614
whos hiring?
I'm asking for a friend

>>715775908
>ceo is on record stating AI will replace all coders in a few years
>fire high paid staff, try to smuggle in more indians to further ruin america's gene pool
>will fire low paid staff

>>715775929
>this LARPing nigger thinks "I was merely pretending to be retarded" is a valid response
lol.

>>715775521
In general I share that sentiment, but when it comes to ethics I believe women can at least in principle compete on eye level. But in particular, I believe the feminine element isn't really that misplaced when it comes to having a certain regard for the weakest of all the sentient beings -- animals. Women are naturally the nurturing gender, and it's really fitting a woman is writing about stuff like that.

No worries. This was my last post on this topic.

The whole AI and coding thing reminds me of how we figured out how to cure scurvy but after 200 years it became a giant problem again because of compoinding lack of understanding about what actually causes scurvy.
Over the years new practices like using lime juice instead of lemon juice and treating lime juice in machnery with copper elements made it completely ineffective at doing what it was supposed to do.
I think programming will follow the same path with more and more people relying on AI to make software without actually understanding what their code does and eventually it will all come crashing down. But it wont happen soon.

>>715775973
larping about what?
are you genuinely retarded or what part was not clear sarcasm, help me understand
>if only code not throwing a syntax error meant it was magically working.
does this seem like a serious statement?

>>715776010
so what you're telling me is that you're a retarded faggot

>>715776042
You don't know anything about coding, especially debugging lmao
Fuck on off, LARPer.

>>715775828
I haven't made any arguments on whether AI art surpasses human art. The only argument I've made is that you demonstrably can't distinguish between AI art and human art. You also can't distinguish between AI output and human output if the human just redresses the AI output. You're claiming that you can make a qualitative assessment based on a content's label when you don't even have a definite method of labeling it. I don't know what to call this, let me ask an AI real quick.

>>715776086
so you're too autistic to answer the question and too autistic to detect sarcasm good conversation i think?

>>715775685
so what is your point then? that instead of reading and writing about philosophy written by human philosophers that you should just be reading AI essays about the topic? You dont read AI books on philosophy because you know its too complex for AI to generate coherent or substantive arguments, if you cant tell the difference between an AI book on philosophy and one by an actual philosopher then you're an idiot who has no grasp of the topic.

The fact that you continue to read human books on the subject and talk to human beings on the internet is an acknowledgement that it retains something obvious that AI does not have.

>>715776124
>tell me how I gave myself away RIGHT now >:0
uh, no.
you are a retarded larper who doesn't know what coding with AI is even like.
nevermind proper coding.

>>715761312 (OP)
Gabe can tongue my anus, he's a fat fuck siting on his 9 digits yacht 24/7 while talking about average Joe and gamers
>>715761669
>experts and industry leaders
aka the ones with small hats, scammers and billionaires/Megacorporations who want more but with less slaves

>>715775960
What they say and what's possible are two different things.
Do you really believe any majority jeet company is going survive, let alone thrive, AI or no AI? Even Apple has been dropping the ball lately.

>>715776046
so what you're telling me is that you're a retarded faggot

>>715768023
>Altman
Anon I would have trusted a random twitter account post more than that weasel. Find literally any other proof and I'll blindly believe it.

>>715776181
yeah cus im not a retard like you so i don't outsource everything like sarcasm detection to ai?
its funny because i literally said "to see the world view the eyes of a vibecoder for a day"
and you somehow took that fully serious cus you're autistic, id bet my left nut you don't have a job

>>715775521
Good post

>>715776329
>stop recognizing I don't know how to code and be mad at my insults >:0
yeah no. Sorry, LARP boy but AI doesn't detect all the problems in your code for you

Anti-AI cucks can't stop losing.

>>715776113
> you demonstrably can't distinguish between AI art and human art
and you posted coomer anime girls to prove this, instead of picking images with novel designs, symbolic meaning in subject matter or composition, interesting worldviews you post fan art slop of pre existing, formulaic, generic anime characters.

you wont acknowledge that there is a difference between style and substance, you know the difference innately with writing but you're a porn addict when it comes to visual media.

>>715776162
I told you I judge a text based on its merit.
This does not in any shape or form tell you anything about how well I think of current AI outputs.
If the AI generates a good text, I will read it with interest. If not, I will skip it.
Consider also that statements like that are scope-bound.
Do I think current AI can create fantastic texts when it comes to explaining some programming concept? Yes!
Do I believe it can already philosophize? Fuck no. I tried. I goddamn tried.

So I am already satisfied with AI text gen when it comes to e.g. summarizing a technical documentation. But not many others.

Why the everloving fuck would you even entertain the idea that my being mildly optimistic about AI-the-tech means I am also 100% on board with AI-the-current-outputs-(and that in ALL domains)? That does not logically follow. I mean, at the risk of repeating myself, I literally clearly said I ONLY CARE ABOUT WHAT VALUE I CAN DERIVE FROM THE OUTPUT. Nothing else.

>>715761486
Nah, python is genuinely great
People just misuse it
It is perfect glue for C / C++ applications, way better than something like bash scripts

>>715776468
no, LUA.

>>715761486
i use it for statistics and geographic stuff, i wouldnt use it for serious coding

>>715776375
so autism it is then
goodluck with that spergboy, hope you get employed soon :^) /s

>>715761312 (OP)
>Epstein list dangerously close to being released
>Gay Ben suddenly cowtipping to globalist powers

>>715776537
>how dare you not fall for my insults!
>I'm leaving in a huff!

>>715761624
>>715761312 (OP)
Reminder that people here called me crazy when I pointed out that Valve is just an Indian company.

Now who's laughing?

>>715776430
There's plenty of evidence of people being unable to distinguish between AI art and human art. There's even examples in this thread of a mangaka having detailed idiosyncrasies copied by AI, to the point where he was briefly unsure whether or not he drew the image. You just think that you have the ability to distinguish it, but studies shows otherwise. You only provided evidence affirming that in this thread.

>>715768852
Thanks for putting into words what has been floating in my subconsciousness. Loss of knowledge is a phrase i shall adapt into my anti ai arsenal.

>>715776465
So you agree with me that AI can regurgitate concrete, pre-existing easy to google concepts but once its tasked with generating something novel, with meaning and vision it cannot. Why are we arguing then?

The fact that you even thought machine learning algorithms could philosophize reveals a severe misunderstanding about how the tech functions.

>>715761312 (OP)
>have no understanding of how your game works and will never be capable
literally not possible. is AI supposed to fix bad code somehow that itself made?

>>715776678
>more arguments about images of a single anime character and replicating style
im not repeating myself for the millionth time, the only other thing ill say is stupid people cant tell when they are talking to bots either. The other response to my obvious bot post in this thread could not tell it was AI. I dont care about what retarded people can and cant recognise.

>>715761312 (OP)
I just don't see it unless AI finds a way to overcome the current data to required power curve. AI can code basic and small shit right now which is impressive. I loved messing around with that site builder a while back but it can't handle coding larger or complex code and it can't do anything new. Even with the incomprehensible amount of training data it's gotten, it hasn't really improved much at coding from when these models started using them as an advertising piece like when that site builder dropped.
Also if what Gabe is predicting comes true, the problem in that situation will be those beginners won't know how to fix or troubleshoot because they haven't realistically learned how to code.

>>715776570
i genuinely think you're too autistic to code at this point and are just really confused/stuck in a loop, im not ragebaiting you as you are saying.
would you like to engage in conversation or just lash out over a something that should have just been funny?

>>715762171
>good morning saarGPT, please do the needful and optimize thr code, saar.

>>715763149
KWAB

>>715761312 (OP)
Damn I have gaben's blessing? Now I'm motivated

>>715776769
My thoughts on this are too complex to put into a 4chan post, but in essence my view is that eventually it might be able for an AI to generate such a richness of logically-connected-and-insightful-yet-rarely/never-before-stated-by-a human (at the desired complexity, so no "dude what if" weed thoughts) texts. This is, like always, a simulation. The AI will not actually be truly philosophizing (not least because it's a simple input-output machine rather than being an entity that can even have off-the-clock "thoughts").

But perhaps the difference does not matter, because even a simulation can have genuine value for the recipient, because whatever the text is, it is converted into ACTUAL thoughts and reflections inside the human.

Needless to say, this will not be based on LLM architecture, but probably something that at the very least wires several different instances of Large Reasoning Models together.

Again, I am not saying the AI will be smart, I am saying respective what a well-read human might find interesting/novel/salient, these future frontier AI might just about reach some level where it is possible for the well-read human to derive interesting thoughts from it.

>>715777006
>Actually I'm NOT leaving because you made me MAD >:C
>engage in honorable debate on 4chan right now!
no.
you are a larping faggot, the inability of AI to debug is well known and well established.
Now continue to fuss over my refusal to play along.

>>715776671
>The riotshill autist
We called you retarded for different reasons.

>>715776941
>overwhelming amount of data showing humans can't reliably distinguish between AI and human content in art and writing
>"no bro I can see that magic human soul in the things people make you don't get it"
When you have an actual definable quality instead of vibes, people will listen to you. Until then you have nothing.

>>715777292
which is what i said but you are just really autistic and unable to detect sarcasm... so here we are still with you being upset

>>715776671
>I have no argument so I'll cope and seethe about extremely highly paid pajeets
sad

>>715777395
>LARPing nigger is back to "I was only pretending to be retarded"

>>715777425
>>715775717
dude this is the post you are talking about, calm your tardfit its embarrassing

>>715777408
>No arguments
>has been proven that Valve uses AI for their coding now
>their highest ranking programmer is an Indian
>their VP is an indian
>"no arguments"

>>715764212
eh you can find shills promoting every viewpoint under the sun on their shitty media channels for the sole purpose of collecting adbucks or donations
it's the defining feature of the internet today

How does major AI companies actually generate profits? It sounds like a massive money sink if billions of people are using it just to make memes or as a glorified google search, all for free.

>>715777286
>AI might just about reach some level where it is possible for the well-read human to derive interesting thoughts from it.
this is a completely different argument that nobody disagrees with because its just saying AI is a good source of inspiration because its like having idle, random thoughts about a subject that serve as an inspiration seed and are more related than an average google search.

AI in its current form cannot make logical arguments because it doesnt function using logic, it functions using probability fields, any logic or meaning it outputs is accidental and from inputting massive amounts of logical data that it regurgitates.

>>715777770

Dumb up the population and make it reliant on AI then pull the rug on all free services and then finally charge a premium.

>>715777367
>all art is just random shapes and various depictions of hot women in sexually suggestive poses.
yes yes, just like all human speech and writing is regurgitated memes from e-celebs. im bored, stop replying to me.

>>715777882
You should look into the studies. Not all of them are done on porn, obviously.

>>715777292
>>715775347
what if you did like claudeplayspokemon and connected the AI to an error prompt haha
maybe it would be funny. >claudecodespokemon

>>715777770
distract the absolute not poor who have access to technology so they don't lnow they're being replaced with niggers and poos.
control incels

We are legitimately moving towards 40k techpriest territory where people will ask the machine spirit to solve their problems without even trying to understand what's actually happening.

>>715777971
people DO use claude to code, the same claude api that is stuck in the game corner still.
Thats what is happening when its dialogue gets filled with blank entries.
Thats the API getting overwhelmed by other requests.
So it wouldn't be hard to do.

>>715777770
SoftBank is run by a westaboo boomer nip notorious for falling for flashy marketing.
Right now AI is the hottest VC grift. You tack AI onto anything and VCs will swarm you like flies on shit.
The goal is to pump up your capitalization high enough to get bought out.
Same scheme as with other buzzwords of the time like ML, "cloud", etc.

>>715778012
>moving towards
lol, lmao even

My only problem with AI is that it enables retards to propagate their terrible taste and lack of imagination.

>>715778153
You're WAY too late with that complaint.

>>715778153
yeah, shitters think I care about their shitty porn generated on a toaster with basic laras

>>715761312 (OP)
I don't listen to fat people.

>>715778153
Exactly my impression whenever I dip into a dalle thread on here.

Autists making the same ugly drawing with little variation ten thousand times

>>715763587
bro....

>>715777945
I have looked into them and the way I'm able to tell if something is AI generated is always to question what is the purpose of that thing they included. Once you start to question why everything is the way it is AI images fall apart. This is obviously hard when the topic is coomer shit because there is no meaning behind anything besides boob make pp hard and all these generic attractive women are attractive for the same monkey brain reasons.

>>715761312 (OP)
Between this and the censorship Valve is really going down the toilet.

>>715778210
Wow a tiktok opinion, my worldview just shattered.

>>715778279
Good, fatty.

>>715761312 (OP)
Sounds very funny.

How about this situation: I get his money and I then have more money than a turd who's been hoarding it for decades?

>>715763003
The far and near future is bleak as fuck.

>>715778191
That pretty much sums it up.

>>715778217
Ye it's the same everywhere with generative AI. The same groups of tards advertising their complete lack of imagination. You got a dream machine that is capable of ANYTHING, yet they find a way to make it produce the most boring slop known to mankind on repeat. It's tragic really.

>>715761312 (OP)
If I was rich, influential, and already made it, I'd be tempted to say this too even though I don't believe it. Say anything to blackpill the people at the bottom and keep them from trying. Make them give up all hope. That's what keeps my at the top.

>>715778324
>thirdie randomly whining for gibs
wew

>>715762008
>Builder.ai debacle
Qrd
>>715762264
Ai and llm were expensive af to research. Companies and banks want their money back from you. Same situation with smartphones. They were promoted on a big level.

>>715778380
me*

>>715761669
>slaveowners are in agreement that X is good
>slaves swear that X is no good
MIND BLOWN

>>715761669
AI costs an absolute fucking shit load though, cursor have changed pricing to per token instead of per message and all the "AI developers" are losing their minds over the new limits. Inexperienced devs will spend 100x more than people that actually understand what's going on

>>715778153
Yeah, this is it for me as well. I didn't care much about AI until I started to notice all the boorus I like to visit being flooded with generic AI pin-ups with little to no variation that manages to achieve the feat of being incredibly boring to the point that it's impossible to be aroused by it, and it's just 'good enough' for people with absolute no taste to masturbate to.

>>715761436
A friend of mine, a mathematician, said that mass exodus of white colour workers is to be expected in 3 to 5 years.

>>715777659
>valve is insanely successful
>the code works
>pajeets making tons of money triggers you
where the fuck is your argument lmfao

>>715777770
>How does major AI companies actually generate profits?
they sell tokens

>>715762264
Fat cats are desperate for anything that will let them lay people off and squeeze out as much as they can from the rest.
A machine doing all the work is their holy grail.

>>715778210
Truvke

>>715778482
only brown workers left? is india going to be number 1 finally?

>>715778419
NTA it was actually a bunch of indians instead of an ai was pretty funny

>>715778548

>>715765780
No
Just start a company using AI and hire developers to do the coal mining work. Read the article anon linked here about the guy that did just that.

>>715778460
The cost to use the tools will decrease over time though, and the hardware will get better. Stop acting like you're retarded.

>>715778629
Nick made me hate this retard.
Nick ruins almost everything by shining the light of truth on it.

>>715772941
and 5 billion in losses or something like that

>>715778662
>cost of using cursor increases over time
>yes but the cost will decrease over time
The dependency will increase, and with dependency, the cost will increase. You think they're going to pass savings onto the end user? They are not offering you all of these free AI services and paid for subscriptions to make your life easier, they are training and refining the tasks it is capable of doing until you're completely redundant.

>>715778561
Laugh all you want, India is experiencing very rapid growth. It doesn't seem that too many profit from it, as there's still a ton of people working for like 3 usd per day.
>>715778580
Ai is just very literate and educated Indians and people from Brazil? This is canon.

>>715763379
AI makes worst code then indies

>>715763583
same way china and Indians do

>>715762420
Who cares when it will all get streamlined into the same thing?

>>715778712
Same, I just liked that mp4

>company wants it to reduce costs
>according to studies it doesn't reduce costs
anti-corpochads WIN again

>>715778816
The competition will increase and will drive down prices.

>>715778561
Laugh all you want, India is experiencing very rapid growth. It doesn't seem that too many profit from it, as there's still a ton of people working for like 3 usd per day.
>>715778580
Ai is just very literate and educated Indians and people from Brazil? This is canon.

>>715773990
and in 5 years ai can do the same with 100000 x less the effort required

kino times ahead /v/ros

>>715778981
Hundreds of billions are being burned on AI in order to be the first to reach certain industry targets in order to be the ones to get the big military, government, finance, industry contracts. AI wrappers serve the purpose of bringing that closer but it is at completely unsustainable costs. At some point there is going to be a return on that investment, and it isn't through enabling some retard that doesn't know a fucking thing about software to stumble their way onto a partial solution of a problem no-one asked for

>>715776671
>argumentum ad indium

>>715779412
>At some point there is going to be a return on that investment,
>and it isn't through enabling some retard that doesn't know a fucking thing about software to stumble their way onto a partial solution of a problem no-one asked for
You're fundamentally wrong on these two points so.

>Implying if you could vibe code, you wouldm't make COOMrim style game
Holodeck/FDVR WHEN

>>715761624
>>715770028
>Using a code base provided by ChatGPT
Holy fuck I hate journalists so much.
An engineer asked an AI what sort of algorithm would fit his requirements, got suggested one, then he implemented it, using it as a search engine. Where does it say it was AI created code?

>>715776671
>Web developer
Now nu-Steam suddenly makes sense.

>>715768295
this so much this
I wanted a simple ''text recognition system with translator built in'' so I can fap to the jap art and stumbled upon this a couple weeks ago https://github.com/zyddnys/manga-image-translator
there was a helpful anon on /g/ but I just couldn't get it to work because I had to download and install so much bullshit dependencies. just look at how much nonsense is in the -installation tab, it's actually insane

>>715779510
>spent hours seething about nothing
>now you think AI is good

>>715779479
long term government finance and military contracts are not the end goal? Centralized control of those models? Why aren't they looking towards providing a way to run internal AI systems that would enable them to improve efficiency within their own businesses and push all of the cost of running that onto that business? You will not be needed in 5 years as the button pushing model trainer coder. The reason something succeeds is because its complexity is hard to replicate, when it is replicated it has no more value. The end user on their per token subscription becomes completely redundant when they have no service to offer

>>715779510
I find it amazing that people use ChatGPT as a fucking search engine and then get amazed when it does what a search engine does.

>>715780176
Modern search engines are so fucking garbage that asking an internet RAG capable LLM is better. Just double check the output for hallucinations.

>>715780145
I specifically pointed out where you were wrong...
>Why aren't they looking towards providing a way to run internal AI systems that would enable them to improve efficiency within their own businesses and push all of the cost of running that onto that business
They are.

>>715761312 (OP)
>>715761669
Is there and where is the consumer demand for AI games?
I find it hard to believe if AI is used to make a good FPS like Halo or platformer like Mario Odyssey, Xbox and Nintendo wouldn't want them on their stores.

>>715780176
only because you're so fucking retarded you can't understand the gravity of asking an AI a question about literally anything and having a high chance of getting correct answers and a shit load of context on top of them.

>>715780281
*would want them

>>715780176
ChatGPT is an incredibly useful search engine.
>t. job haver

>>715780281
Not really, not that it'll stop anyone from doing it, and that's gonna be a major problem.
You can see it with art sites, all that people really do with AI is mass produce garbage.
The vidya market is gonna go from a hundred shitty Unity/Unreal asset flip a year to a billion.

>>715778538
I don't get the endgame for this
>everyone is replaced by robots so you theoretically don't have to pay anyone and can just rake in income from people buying your product
>but if you aren't hiring anyone then people aren't making money to be able to buy your shit anyway
are they retarded or what

>>715765017
NVIDIA makes an actual physical product

>>715780471
It's all in the immediate
They're desperate to get into the crypto jew tier or at least see it.
and by the law of making too much poojeets they don't expect to outlive killing the planet or beings replaced by rich poos cause dumb

>>715780616
That provides what value?

>>715761312 (OP)
So why hasn't he fired all his staff and replaced them with AI? Seems to be the trend currently.

>>715780281
The issue is that AI is being used to make the most garbage, low-effort games that are even worse than those asset flips you see get uploaded on itch.io that somehow make it to the steam store. They don't even try to make a good game with it since it requires effort to do so, and even to put a modicum of it into the development of their game is too much for them, as they only see it as an opportunity to become rich. If more passionate gamedevs worked with AI, then you may see something good come out of it, but as another anon pointed out, you'll just get a bunch of rubbish instead. For one good game that's made with AI, there'll be 5,000 shovelware games with subpar game design made with the sole purpose of generating revenue and nothing more.

>>715780471
There is no long-term plan.
They are banking on a comfy and profitable transitional period before everything goes to shit.
If the company is big enough, it will be propped up by money printing to a certain point, just enough to buy all the assets they need and fuck off to retire somewhere.

>>715780616
>an actual physical product
...for which 90% of demand is for data centers to fuel the AI bubble.

>>715776503
lua lost because it sucked, sucks, and will continue to suck

>>715768295
I see Java have a strong competitor in the worst dependencies nightmare competition.

>>715780667
Doesnt make NVIDIA an AI company.
If 90% of a power station's output is used to run data centres, it doesnt make the power industry an AI company either
Things the data centre is being used for starts is the AI industry, and right now none of that is profitable

>>715780857
>Doesnt make NVIDIA an AI company.
holy fuck this guy is retarded

>>715761312 (OP)

>>715761802
>kneels towards payment processor
>gets no money if they go againts them
Gee, I wonder why he kneels

>>715778134
damn, I.. didn't even know AI coded a week ago. All I heard about was those dumb novel AI-rpg things. I'm so out the loop.

>>715780916
Ill spell it out for you retard
They are a GPU company
What people use those GPUs for doesnt change their company

>>715780302
That's how Google used to work. I'd search something and the top result would be a post on some random guy's personal blog exhaustively explaining the exact thing I was looking for. It was great.
Now it's all sponsored results and random crap it pulls from a handful of approved sites but AFAIK there's no technological reason that Google couldn't go back to "just works" tomorrow.

>>715780176
The benefit is you can stack context almost limitlessly to expand the specificity of your search, you can't do that to the same degree with google, overly complex searches generate worse and worse results

>"Hey ChatGPT, I have X issue and I need it solved, but Y is often suggested and doesn't work for me and Z causes another, separate issue if attempted"
>Gives an actual answer
>Google the same thing and the results are nonsense because the query is too complex, simplify it and all you get is high traffic links of people suggesting you do Y and Z, things that you already know don't work

>>715781059
>The company is also a leading supplier of artificial intelligence (AI) hardware and software.

>Gaben loves AI
>Carmack loves AI
>Trump and Musk love AI
Anti-AI shills bros.... not like this...

>>715781076
You are a lying piece of shit. You could never ask a paragraph of a question and get an answer.

>>715781128
AKA GPUs and CPUs and GPU programming software
Is this really so difficult to understand for you?

>>715781223
you are a poo who ruined the internet

>>715781247
You know you already lost, you're just pretending to be retarded at this point.

>>715781059
>What people use those GPUs for doesnt change their company
The point is demand for GPUs will drop like a rock if the AI bubble isn't sustainable.
And they're explicitly making chips for AI stuff with Tensor cores, they're no longer focused on graphics.

>>715781223
Well no, you wouldn't type it as a sentence, you'd use keywords. You could argue that it's more obtuse to the average user but it's really not that different.

AI allows beginner artists to draw better than experienced artists.

>>715781360
It's massively different being able to phrase a question in plain English vs. thinking about keywords for my problem.

>>715776671
>Mohamed Ahmed
>Assadzadeh
>Ahmad
>Mamad
Both kinds of Indian...

>>715781431
you're brown

>>715781464
If anything, having to write the entire sentence is more of a problem since a small typo can completely change the meaning of a sentence.

>>715781464
Retards will never understand.

>>715780663
Funnily enough the money printing will stop thanks to an American foreign policy and military in freefall, doubt the dollar has more than 20 years as a reserve currency left

>>715781464
Ah yes, thinking of keywords is so much more difficult than having to think of keywords to put in a sentence.

>>715781598
For a very specific question like this >>715779510
it's far harder to look it up with keywords than natural language.

>>715761312 (OP)
I'm a little surprised the game engines haven't partnered or bought the rights to part of an ai and adopted this yet.

Some game code is complicated, but for most games people are trying to release today it has been coded a thousand times by people before them, and that should be pretty fucking easy to literally these features a button, not even AI but literal buttons to add code/features like movement, aiming and shooting, picking up objects, menu interfaces, jumping, etc. You should be able to even click the objects in the scene so ChatGPT better understands what the fuck you are talking about. The basic code for every game is literally the same shit literally copypasted over and over I never understood why Unity and Unreal don't just have a retard mode you can pick that avoids the person needing to code whatsoever when we already know how to code so much of this shit and can just implement it into a literal UI.

>>715781591
>20 years
That's fine for them. Most will be either dead or at death's door at that point.

>>715781526
Lol, what a nigger.

>>715781712
>I'm a little surprised the game engines haven't partnered or bought the rights to part of an ai and adopted this yet.
They have.

>>715781865
Qrd?

>>715781921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov25urggo3U

They're all doing this shit behind the scenes. Almost nobody has anything ready for production yet.

>>715762264
Skill issue

I think that most AI tools are 'good enough', it would be a valid opinion if they worked 100% of the time, it's not unusual for it to lie or vomit unusuable code.

>>715781598
It can take you hours of reading various online arguments to get to this point. Or you can run the LLM through both sides of the argument and then have it do a post-mortem like this to draw your own conclusions and you'll have a lot of answers in 15 minutes. Search engines don't facilitate this process to the same extent, and the LLM is doing the exact same thing you were doing in the past of compiling the information of various perspectives and seeing which side has more weight. You can do all this with limited to no technical knowledge as well since the LLM will feed you further keywords on the subject in the process.

>>715779102
>India is experiencing very rapid growth
They'll be a third world country by 2030, trust the plan

>kills physical games on pc
>introduces lootboxes
>enables censorship
>shills AI
and you'll keep sucking his cock like a good boy because you pledged loyalty to him for life

>>715765481
He got rich on cs normalfags and forcing everyone into his shitty drm botnet with them.

>>715782082
>Search engines don't facilitate this process to the same extent
they do, you just arent using them right.
a problem AI has is it isn't looking into potential biases from its sources, or it will have its own biases coded in for political correctness.

>>715782269
I didn't say they don't facilitate at all, but the ease of doing something like this with an LLM compared to a search engine is definitely not the same.

>>715781994
Maybe I shouldn't have said AI, but Unity and Unreal could basically make much more surface-level "coding" via a UI. There are already a lot of "game engines" made for kids and retards that are basically codeless for the user. Why can't Unity/Unreal split the difference and reach into that considering literally 99% of new indie titles have code that has been coded over and over repeatedly with basically zero differences

You could fix a lot of bad coding by just GIVING game creators the good code rolled up in a package so they can add it to objects in their scene with the click of a button then just introducing UI sliders to adjust the variables instead of dealing with the weird format that coding has

I use gog

>>715780662
That's a known problem. Computers made work easier at the cost of an avalanche of useless data.

>>715781431
>draw
You're not drawing, you're generating. It's better than some experienced artists, but not all.

>>715781712
In theory game libraries and the like are supposed to solve code reuse, but it never quite works lol. That and objects. It's a mystery of the universe.

>>715783217
>It's a mystery of the universe.
Nah, just poor documentation.