J-Action thread? Lets discuss how fucking AWESOME ninja gaiden 4 will be, this is the MGR 2 i've been waiting for!
Why are J-Action gamers always so unhappy despite playing some of the greatest games of all time?
>>715925934what's this guys video have to do with action games
>>715925757 (OP)>best ass on nintendo switch is hidden behind a logono wonder this game sold so poorly
>>715925757 (OP)It's the year of the fucking NINJA. Best respect
Bros, I'm doing it, I'm almost done with mentor difficulty. I can't wait to get to MN. tell me something, in chests that would normally contain talisman of rebirth, does the yellow essence rewarded match the price of one at muramasa's or am I losing out? I never once used one of them during my mentor run so far, I'm just saving it for some particular bullshit.
The minorities got really loud with the weapon switching clip, hope there's more in store.
>>715926770Yeah you'll get its essence worth if your inventory is already full, that's how you make bank during chapters 4 to 6. Goes for all items, even the speargun on NG+. In the case of health and ki items you may get red/blue essence instead if your inventory is full but HP/Ki isn't.
Someone download this and tell me if it's legit or dolphin porn
https://x.com/RohanKarMooN/status/1946648736274207101
Can someone explain to me the psychology of someone liking one game within the genre and being angry at all the other titles? That seems to be all there is in these threads.
I mean I like Bayo 1 the most but I still appreciate other titles in the genre.
Also why do people hate on DMC5? It's not perfect, but it's a pretty good game and don't deserve the hate.
>>715926694It definetly feels like ninjas aren't as popular as samurai nowadays, how come?
>>715930697this place is what happens to your brain after too many years of culture wars on the internet.
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>>715930697>Also why do people hate on DMC5?Only people who hate DMC5 are DMC4 combo autists or contrarians.
>>715931439No hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits no buy
>>715931001Naruto ended like 10 years ago and no other massively popular ninja thing has come out
>>715931439Looks a million times better than the previous games but that's a low bar. Ninja Gaiden was only liked by faggots that think they're cool because they mastered a combat system that's inherently unfair.
>>715930697Nobody hates DMC5
Astral Chain was underrated as hell.
>>715933169I really want to emulate it after I upgrade my cpu
>>715932548Nope. Can't have that anymore. Too problematic.
If Team Ninja made NG4 they 100% would've had the playable girls again. I can guarantee without a doubt in my mind Ryu is going to be the only playable character in NG4. The game will receive 0 DLC
>>715934124aw hell naw get that crusty ass DMC5 reject out of here
>>715932160>combat system that's inherently unfairThere's a method to the madness.
>>715934124>Vergil instead of Dante>Sam instead of Raiden
>>715935443>2B instead of Optimus Prime
>>715931439>Itsuno did thisftfy
>>715930697>Also why do people hate on DMC5?I can't speak for everyone else, but I hated how the story just retread 3 and 4. They basically just copied the character arcs of Vergil and Nero, but slightly changed them. Obviously there is more to it than that and they're a different angle of those arcs as well, but it feels very cheap and fanservicey. I dislike the artstyle and designs overall, along with how they moved even further away from the industrial metal and gothic styles in the visuals and music.
I have no issues with the gameplay however, but the levels weren't interesting I guess. Basically I just think it is boring.
>>715925757 (OP)>ninja gaiden 4>platinum post-talent bleed>Microsoft related titleI have no hope. Unlike me waiting the download for EDF2017; what I'm in for aside Starship Troopers?
>>715930697>why do people hate on DMC5V.
It's V.
It's literally just V.
V segments are a stain on DMCV that ruins the entire game just by existing.
Remove V from the game and it becomes 10x more enjoyable.
>>715935804Huh? How is Nero's storyarc in 5 anything like the one in 4? In 4 he's just trying to protect Kyrie and he comes to accept his demon powers in order to do so. In 5 he wants revenge on Urizen for stealing that same power but he ends up learning what's actually going between Dante and Vergil and how he's related to them so he decides to stop them.
Like yeah, Vergil is mostly repeating the same mistakes since the whole point is for him to get over himself, but Nero? How?
>>715936382They're both about accepting his heritage and choosing a new path. I already said it's not the same exactly, but it's retreading all the same beats and doesn't feel fresh as a result. Vergil's storyline also isn't the same as 3, but surely you can see how it feels like the series is treading water? Also to be clear I'm just chiming in for why I hated it, I'm not gonna say there's no reasons to like it.
>>715925757 (OP)Can resi 4 be considered as a J-action game?
>>715925757 (OP)Where's Zandatsu then
>>715936697But his storyarc in 4 has nothing to do with his heritage. He accepts his demon powers because they allow him to protect humans from demons and people like Sanctus. He does so in spite of the possibility that Kyrie might reject him for it but she sees him for who she truly is instead. It has nothing to do with his family relations.
>surely you can see how it feels like the series is treading water?Not really? I feel Nero and Vergil's character are were pretty necessary because the series never really dealt with any of it. It was always a foregone conclusion that Vergil was dead and he'd never a chance to be more than a power hungry asshole. DMC4 ended with Nero not knowing he was related to Dante and that was like the #1 thing people wanted to see him discover.
Both of them were just in one game each too.
>>715937186>But his storyarc in 4 has nothing to do with his heritage. >He accepts his demon powersSo he does do what I said, and the second game is an expansion of that by adding in family ties like I said.
Look I'm not going to argue with you about the storyline of a game I don't particularly like. If you don't understand that DMC5 mainly being family drama that plays out very similarly to the previous arcs these characters had might not be interesting to some people, then I don't know what to tell you. They can very easily do everything you just praised without rehashing the Vergil villain arc again, but they did it purely to jerk him off because he's popular. I think that over reliance on fanservice dragged down the whole game.
>>715937591>So he does do what I saidNo. He doesn't "accept" anything in 5. He literally doesn't know what's really happening or why. Once he learns about it he immediately acts up on it because what else is he going to do?
>I'm not going to argue with you about the storyline of a game I don't particularly like. Okay but at least actually understand what's going on in the story if you're going to criticize it.
>They can very easily do everything you just praised without rehashing the Vergil villain arc againHow? Like how would you have Nero learning he's Vergil's kid play out, or him coming back?
>they did it purely to jerk him off because he's popularVergil wasn't halfway as popular before DMC5 came out. He's also constantly getting shat on in the game since V is a weakling and Urizen is pretty much a parody of him. It's not like it's some sort of Vergil glaze game.
Thinking of replaying DMC DMC... How's the enemy design in that game?
>>715939584You mean the reboot?
Ruined by color codes enemies that need to be defeated by specific weapons
>>715939774>Ruined by color codes enemiesI never hated those so I don't care really, was curious more about their movesets, agression, etc.
>>715939584it's lackluster in every sense
>>715928775Is the red and blue essence instead of yellow random? Will rerolling the save work or is it determined once you have less HP and Ki?
Worst tropes in character action
>Final boss has an new gimmick of fighting it that wasn't introduced earlier
>Large, hyper-armored damage sponge enemies you spam the highest DPS move on until it dies. Usually some kind of ogre, demon or dragon
>Enemy grab animation lasts more than 1 second
>Boss flies out of range and shoots projectiles until it comes back to the arena
you forgot to add 1v1 boss fights when the combat has you fighting crowds 99% of the time
>>715943558>>715943710I will not stand for this Marbus slander.
>>715943558>Enemy boss has an attack with zero wind up or tell >Speedy enemies that just happen to also be massive damage sponges
>>715943558>Boss flies out of range and shoots projectiles until it comes back to the arena>it can actually just stay there for as long as the AI fucking feels like it
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>>715943558Every single thing about this guy
Will her game ever get a sequel?
>>715944471Loooool shitter
>>715944471holy fuck I completely blocked this shit out of my memory after I finished DMC4. such dogshit
>>715944956>jump cancels exist>trickter exists Holy skill issue
>Announced almost a decade ago
>Constant cases of MIA, eventually becomes PS5 console exclusive with Sony backing
>They barely give it any marketing
>Literally should've released 2 months ago but got pushed back to the same day as MGS3 remake
I'm worried bros
https://youtu.be/lMzlprWQtvU?t=408
I was rewatching older ng4 clips and noticed that enemies can have seemingly strong anti air options against your prolonged air time, already better than DMC...
Yakumo iframes it bc izuna drop string always had iframes btw.
>>715946302Yacuckmo doesn't iframe shit, the enemy just doesn't actually do his attack in the air and stops mid-swing lol
>>715946498idk wheres the bait part in my post
>>715946551The specific clip you showed has the enemy wind up his attack with a special visual cue and audio cue BEFORE the player goes into the air. This is not some deliberate anti-air from the enemy, the player just mashed launcher into izuna drop after those cues and didn't even get punished for it.
>>715946534eh, could be a hit throw not connecting or something
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Soulstice was fun!
>>715946709yeah, but nothing stops the AI from using this against you in the air, so judging from this clip they can catch you during the combos
>>715946825Considering the enemy couldn't even attack fast enough for the player to not mash launcher into izuna, I doubt enemies will be able to wind up and punish you in the air unless you're going for the uselessly long floaty juggles seen in the latest clip they posted.
https://youtu.be/uBG9BuxDxYk
>>715947007ngl """freedom of choice""" retards like this ruined dmc and killed the action game genre in general
>>715947007>just wants to juggle enemiescringe
>>715946947yeah, but that already restricts your air time which is better than I thought, we'll see on launch how the game actually handles that I guess
>>715947007>gameplay footage is nothing but juggle shitDMC and Souls fans are two sides of the same coin.
>>715947007>Juggle shitter Cringe and gay
>>715939584Play the definitive edition. OG sucks cock and seems unfinished compared to it.
>How's the enemy design Pretty decent for dmc standards. I honestly like the roster more than in dmc v. Not the bosses though, outside of the first one and maybe vorgil all other suck ass.
>>715947007>just comments shitting on MayoNice.
>>715947412>Hollow Vergil starts out fine except the music is shit>Then it becomes lame scripted dodge the summoned swords sequences>He's the only boss in Vergil's Downfall and the last mission has no bossWhat a letdown.
>>715925757 (OP)>Astral ChainRidiculously overlooked game.
>>715948164>Astral Chain>overlookedGrim. It's going to be another NG2 situation isn't? Exclusive on shitty hardware so no one will know if it's actually good or it'll be seen as ahead of the time like Devil Third.
I thought people hated bullet sponges?
>>715934121If Team Ninja made NG4 it would've had a character creator where you pick your body type and preferred pronous and the gameplay would be sluggish 1v1s with a stamina bar
>>715948164It's funny to know that this travesty called NG4 was originally supposed to be Astral Chain 2.
They killed AC2 to make a fucking insulting follow up to NG, what a fucking clown world.
I'm gonna buy it day one. I'm going to take time off from work to play it. It still looks better than soulsshit like wo long
>>715948940Just look at NG4's UI
>>715948917>>715948940the game used to be MGR2 and now its Astral Chain 2...
>>715948940No, there's no need for any source, it's just pretty obvious.
>>715949018>>715949023>pure speculationFuck off
>>715949023Well, the aesthetic and decorum tells me otherwise.
>>715947007https://youtu.be/QZCU4L2ykRA
>>715949307I fucked up OKAY?!!!
I had dรฉcor in my head and thought that I would sound intelligent by making it a Latin word.
Scenery is the word I was thinking of.
I heard the NG fanbase had a meltdown over real time weapon switching and air combos.
>>715931619Bwuh, your Seori aka the zoomette priestess with big tiddies and bondage ropes?
>Redditard shows clip of how enemies have anti-air
>Enemy can't even reach the player when doing their anti-air
Fucking lmao. All the indicators saying saying A MOB IS TARGETING YOU WATCH OUT is also ugly as shit. Just pull the camera back to let players see them, not this modern UIslop
>>715946534Maybe its because Yakumo started the Izuna Drop, which caused the enemy to get interrupted?
>>715949696nta, but this character look like shit, looks like it belongs in a shitty unofficial final fantasy game or something like that.
They completely missed the spot with the aesthetic.
>>715949650There's no point of this feature, why waste button space on instantly swapping rather than menuing? This makes me think he game can't pause like soulsshit
when is astral chain getting a switch 2 patch
>>715949902Devil May Cry games have weapon switching and can pause. Why wouldn't you be able to pause in NG?
>>715934121If Team Ninja made NG4, it would have been a soulborne. The reason why they gave it to Platinum is because they are incapable of doing nothing but soulclones.
Your idols are hacks, including Itagaki.
ng weapons werent meant to be swapped, they functioned almost like different characters, its dmc shit where weapons have one or two strings and a couple of meme moves so you have to swap around for le style points and everything
>>715950370which if why, btw, ryu is going to have only one weapon, TDS is the only og ng weapon in this game, everything else seems like completely new platinum weapons
>>715950092I never played past DMC3, so maybe things are different in 4 and 5, but you have weapons selected in a given mission. NG let's you swap to any weapon at any time mid mission. Let me guess, NG4 is going to have each weapon on the d-pad, and maybe you can press a button to show another set of options like picking ninpo in Nioh? Seems like it's cluttering the control scheme. Experienced players can menu and swap/use an item extremely fast, it doesn't hurt the flow of combat but now you have 4+ buttons mapped just to select your weapon. NG and NG2 work so well because there isn't really that much to the controls but has utility and complexity built into the different strings like a fighting game. There's no functional difference between swapping with a menu and in-game but the latter increases the button load. Crying about menus is for scrubs that shit their pants over hard swapping in Dark Souls
if forward x isnt going to be a thing in NG4 then this game is dead to me
>>715950370>ng weapons werent meant to be swappedNot anymore.
>>715950535In DMC5, you can select select ALL weapons equipped to Dante once you beat Son of Sparda difficulty. You can even make it so you have NO weapons, forcing you to rely Royalguard, and there's an achievement for beating a mission with no weapons. You can also switch styles on the fly.
The first DMC, which was a Resident Evil reject with gameplay copypasted from Onimusha, had weapon switching.
Why can't NG4?
>>715950858it's in the name
>>715950858True. What you had to do was press L3 and R3.
We're still doing this meme huh
>>715950902That's wrong. You only press R3.
>>715951202Just because there's big cross-over between fan bases doesn't mean it's in the genre
>>715950668>"action" game let's you play with no weapons, only parry slopping.That's just sad
after dropping ng3 for awhile and coming back to it the game is surprisingly fun to play.
>>715951326I don't even like DMC5 that much anymore after tasting DMC3, but calling Royalguard parryslop is a massive indicator of how much of a secondary you are.
Anyone played some good 2D character action games? I liked odin sphere and sakuna a lot, slave zero looked cool but it turned out to be kinda ass.
>>715951445people say Magenta Horizon is like NG2, idk never played it
is it possible to dodge into a neutral shuriken in ng1? I know you can in 3, but never saw it in ng1.
>>715951481Jesus that artstyle is fucking hideous
>>715951594Yeah, that's why I never played it, but word on the street the gameplay is worth it, I'll try it later I guess
>>715951702>good game>I'll play laterOff to play gacha instead?
>>715951445Kinda is an understatement. Shit was horrendous
>>715952452Nah, the combat was nice but the levels were boring and the story was shit.
>>715925934All this dedication on a fake guitar holy perma virgin
>>715952390I am replaying ng1 on hard if you are that curious
>>715952608Black? Or Sigma?
>>715930697>Also why do people hate on DMC5?No one hates this game, it's a universally beloved game. Only an extremely small amount of super loud schizos who have dedicated their entire lives to hating Itsuno and Capcom hate it.
Yeah Capcom have never done anything worth criticising, like releasing a game with a rootkit
>>715952898Sigma, I played it first bc my old computer couldn't emulate Black very well. After a while I downloaded some ram and tried Black for a bit, it wasn't that much better so I kept playing Sigma instead.
>>715950858>with gameplay copypasted from OnimushaThis is how I know you have either never played Onimusha or DMC, maybe both!
>>715953104>wasn't that much betterBut enough about Sigma
>>715953735No. That was new tech in 3.
>>715925757 (OP)DMCfag here, went through all the ninja gaiden games recently and finished all difficulties.
I rank them as follows:
NGS > NGB = NG2 >> NG3 = NG2B >>>>> NG2S
>NGBReally good action adventure game. It has a lot of good ideas and the way they took onimusha's soul sytem into something that incorporates directly into gameplay is amazing. Wall running is also a cool mechanic and it's a shame that DMC got rid of it after 2. The way enemy step works in this series is also great, it works well as a combo reset in DMC and works really nice in what they were trying to make but at the same time the way NG turns enemy step as an interrupt move to create openings while also giving iframes complements really well with the type of game it's trying to be. The weapon choices are really good, the balance may be out of whack but who cares about that shit in a single player game. The UF is also a really fun weapon and it's a shame they got rid of it just after 1 game.
A big part of the game is obviously trying to be an adventure game and while I do like the idea of a central hub that slowly opens up as you explore, some parts of the game like backtracking and puzzles really just suck. Also it's got a lot of stupid platforming sections that really should have been cut out from the game. Pretty much the same parts of DMC1 and DMC3 I didn't like.
As for the bosses, I actually like that some of the bosses felt like a puzzle game and gimmicky. Both versions of alma is annoying to fight though, mainly because of the inconsistency of FS and it took me a while to figure out that it's easier to fight her just baiting for her to come down for a hold y attack.
Also the camera is inexcusable piece of shit, and will occasionally get stuck.
Overall still really good despite my nitpicks.
>>715954263>Wall running is also a cool mechanic and it's a shame that DMC got rid of it after 2.DMC 3 Trickster style has it. Its more for repositioning and filling up the style meter however.
>NGS
I prefer this game over black simply because it adds more action and less puzzles. Just more encounters, more enemies, more ambushes, more bosses. Going back to black and some chapters just feel way worse than in sigma. The airship feels empty in black, also weird that tairon under alert doesn't have a boss fight in black, path to zarkhan is also way worse in black, i also prefer the pyramid section being cut in sigma, and also a bunch of platforming removed like the fire door section just before the dragon boss fight.
I always thought it was weird that the horse guys appear on only one area in the entire game, the motorcycle guys as a replacement in vigoor felt like an appropriate addition.
Dual swords are also nice addition, bow controls feel weird but in exchange we get aerial bows so I can't complain. Fire wheels aren't useless piece of shit anymore which is also a plus. Also survival mode is a plus.
I do agree though that the rachel chapters get stale after a while. It was a nice change of pace on my first run but it gets old fast. On my MN run I pretty much just ran all the way to the end of her chapters.
Some costumes getting removed is also really stupid, like why even take those off? The red scarf was hella cool. It's also weird that the game won't let you play as fiend ryu even though the model is already there.
Also the camera still fucking suck, but they let me invert the controls now so I can actually use it like a normal human.
For the cheat items like the enhancements and grip of murder, I kinda don't care to be honest, I even used them but I get if some people don't like it.
Overall I understand why some people would prefer black, but I personally think sigma is the better experience and the most "complete" game in the entire series. That's why I rank it at the top.
Well fucking hell, is that a ninja gaiden player that actually played the games? I'll be damned
>NG2
I hate to say it but NG2fags were right. This game is cathartic. The game follows a consistent system and you are rewarded very well for understanding the rules of the game.
This is the game where every mechanic matters. Learning WP, WR, and GR are all mandatory. They were good to know in 1 but 2 is where you HAVE to know these systems by heart.
By the time you git gud enough to beat encounters without relying on UTs/OTs/IDs, nothing else comes close to the combat of this game, not even DMC...until you examine the parts of the game that shows it's blatantly unfinished.
In 1, each encounter have 3 enemies, and usually 1 of them is range. In 2, a LOT of the encounters boil down to just throwing 10 of the same enemy types. 10 IS ninjas, 10 werewolves, 10 gajas, 10 van gelfs, etc and it sucks. This is more apparent with the test of valors, there's no way those fights were really designed to be like that.
I know it's a popular take here that 2 is bad because of UT spam and they should nerf UTs to fix the game but i think that's the wrong way to approach the problem, limiting the player option in an action game is always retarded. 2's problem is encounter design, not UT. Encounters like this, https://files.catbox.moe/c55mjh.mp4 where there's a good mix of enemies is where the combat really shines. Later in this same chapter where they throw 10 of the same enemies is when people start to feel like the only way to clear it is by spamming UTs.
Anyway, despite being unfinished, I think the game is still good enough to be comparable to NGB. There's way too many improvements from the first game, the weapon movesets being expanded, new weapons, range UT is an amazing addition, and the overall focus on action over adventure is way more preferable for me. The combat itself is better than 1, the reason why I can't put 2 above the 1 is due to the game being unfinished. The terrible encounter design, the DLC costumes and mission mode bring it down but it's still an amazing game.
I CAN'T BEAT STAGE 5 OF SHINOBI AAAIIIIEEEEEEE
>NG2B/NG2S
Why the fuck would you remove most of the projectile weapons and remove projectile UTs altogether? Why would you reduce the enemy count and buff the HP values instead?
Why the fuck would you remove the gore? Why the fuck would you make it so you can only upgrade weapons once or twice per chapter?
Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking with these versions? It's great that 2B fixed a couple of those issues but the other parts of the game are still fucked. The entire system that makes 2 satisfying is gone.
When you hit an enemy in the air with FS they don't get cut in half.
When you cut an enemy's leg and hit them with FS while they're crawling in the ground they don't get cut in half.
When you throw an enemy in the wall they don't lose a limb.
Why do enemies survive 2 IDs? Why does delimbing feel random and I'm just waiting to get lucky? Why does increasing difficulties mean more 1 shots and more HP instead of the NG way of difficulty? NGS1 had more enemies, why is it the opposite for 2?
Don't get me wrong, I think these two are still good action games but what really grinds my gears is how they have a blueprint of a great game that had a simple problem of being unfinished, and instead of finishing it, they decide to make something else. And they did it TWICE.
What the fuck man.
Anyway, if we want to talk about improvements, chapter challenge and tag mission were added which is good. Survival is not in though.
Additional chapters for the girls were added, I personally felt meh like in sigma 1 but some people like it I guess so it's a plus. Some costumes are gone like in sigma 1 which I still don't get why they do that but the girls do get costumes also. Also enma's fang is a nice addition.
The worm boss getting cut was good I guess, I didn't have any problems with it but I get it. Water combat was nice in 2 but only with claws and I didn't think it was good enough to be kept.
Anyway, my overall thoughts is I didn't like it if it wasn't obvious enough.
>NG3
Lots of things here, first of all I like the movement and the speed of the combat. I like how you can use the shurikens here. I like WP to FS. I also like how UT now have a powered state after killing a certain amount of enemies.
I don't like how they removed essence. It's the most interesting system of NG, on the fly decision making and map awareness were things that essence induced to the combat. Aside from that, upgrades and items were balanced around essence. There's a risk-reward system, you're burning currency/health/ninpo for an attack.
In 3 they pretty much just removed all of those. Harder enemies don't drop higher currencies anymore which is pretty stupid. Instead of a multiplier based on combo counts it's just a flat addition. It's just way less interesting than before. Doubly so when the best way to earn karma is by abusing SoB which has zero downsides.
I don't like SoB as a mechanic. No reason not to use it and it's purely reactive. It's not something you can initiate which is annoying specially because it's very inconsistent to trigger.
Funnily enough, despite not liking the girl chapters before, I enjoyed playing kasumi the most in this game because it turns a reactive mechanic like SoB into active. This should've been how this mechanic worked.
Weapon combos are now really long, normally this is good but when cicada surge complements it the game starts to feel really mashy.
Enemy types also feel way smaller than before and despite the better movement, WR/WP/GT feel useless because most enemies will just dodge unless they're about to die in which case why bother. Also weird how they turned the claws into the tonfas.
I don't think I have to even say anything about the qtes and the story, it's fucking shit. Even the RE version still has too much walk and talks. Honestly with the amount of qtes and the forced on the rails shooting section, you can tell me it's made by platinum and I would believe it. I don't even need NG4.
Anyway, that's all.
NG3 dodge having a hitbox and being able to stun enemies is peak action game
I THINK RAZORS EDGE IS PRETTY GOOD
>>715954491>Why would you reduce the enemy count and buff the HP values instead? >Why the fuck would you remove the gore? Why the fuck would you make it so you can only upgrade weapons once or twice per chapter? >Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking with these versions? PS3 couldn't run it otherwise
>>715955448>console war faggot doesn't know that LE GREATEST HARDWARE IN THE WORLD couldn't even run the game either
>>715955660PS3 would explode and take the user's life away if it ran og ng2 lil bwo
>>715955832360 literally couldn't even run the shovelware, stop sucking Itagakis cock
If he really wanted it on the most powerful hardware in the world he would've made it for PC
Wuchang fallen feathers
Morbid Metal
Lost Soul Aside
Ninja Gaiden 4
Crimson Desert
Daemon X Machina Titanic Scion
Where Winds Meet
Showa American Story
some action games from the east im looking forward to
Is this J-action? https://youtube.com/watch?v=nW1cE6sj6h8&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD
>>715954263Forgot to add this clip for the camera being shit.
If you were to upload every time the camera in NG games were shit you'd just upload the whole game
>>715957047Here's a bonus clip from NG3.
>>715954263>NGSNone of the additions are good apart from the bow and water stages. Rachel stages are dogshit
>>715930697>Can someone explain to me the psychology of someone liking one game within the genre and being angry at all the other titles?Simple, it's not a thing.
>>715925934enthusiasts of any hobby community are always the most miserable people. it's not just a video game thing.
if you dislike Rachel chapters you have bad fundies
>>715957829Not that guy but rachel herself lacks fundies in sigma. No wind path, no wall run, no shuriken cancel. All she got is on landing UTs and that weird roll over thing she does.
>>715944446this boss would already be the worst in the trilogy even without the ads, but the ads make it just that much worse.
>>715958003>Abuse fraud path, fraud run, fraudriken cancels>Think you have fundiesRyutards...
>>715958128That boss doesn't have ads.
>>715930697When you have one game that is so good than everything that came after or before its easy to hate the others entries for not meeting those standards, especially if those other games lead to the decline or the death of the franchise.
>>715925757 (OP)Why are you coping anon? Most of the people who worked on these games left platinum already. Nu Platinum could never make something as bizarre as Wonderful 101, you have to be an autist like Kamiya to do that.
>>715958251Oh I thought it's the archfiend, they arr rook the same.
none of the bosses have ads, wtf are you talking about...
https://youtu.be/cQ32Sb0kiA0
>>715958251Yes he does. He spawns gajas.
>>715957695How it always goes.
Give me some tips for stage 5 of Shinobi PS2
I like them, but DMC3's style system is kinda dorky. Like, "change style to choose what this one button will do".
>>715959586All 4 styles could have easily been implemented into one moveset in DMC3 but they had the right idea in giving Dante various playstyles.
>>715954491>I didn't like it if it wasn't obvious enough.Based
>>715954439All correct. Has good ideas but flew too close to the sun.
>>715954439>>715960067Unreal cocksucking for a hack NFT grifter
>>715954439>I know it's a popular take here that 2 is bad because of UT spam and they should nerf UTs to fix the game but i think that's the wrong way to approach the problem, limiting the player option in an action game is always retarded.the optimal way of play being spamming 10 seconds long cutscene attacks is more retarded than whatever idea of action game design you have in your head
>>715960104?
NG2 is a complete mess. That's a fact no one itt can argue against. Cool ideas sure but it's unfocused as fuck.
>>715958995My pet peeve with tourists is small things like superficiality and undeveloped taste. But that's irrelevant because liking things doesn't make you more interesting
>Drunken Skeleton performed by Tomonobu Itagaki
Actual soul
>>715960292The optimal way of beating any DMC is by spamming stinger. You're in an action game thread, why the fuck are you talking about "optimal" stupid retard.
>>715960448lolwut no it isn't
>>715960448Play optimal or don't play at all. Simple as
>>715960635Here's your action game bro.
https://youtu.be/DjVIHYbwtps
>>715960448so you are le player expression nigger, sad
>>715960448do you just play the games once on normal and drop them forever, what are you talking about
Since we're blogposting, I finally got through mentor in NG2. I'll probably bounce back to NGS (I just like it better, sue me) for a very hard clear now.
This was way more ballbusting than warrior by a large margin, at least right at the start when you don't have all your weapons/moves and are still getting used to it. After that it's pretty smooth sailing, nothing feels truly overwhelming apart from chapter 11 with those 3 rasetsus and explosive archers finally starting to crop up. It's also the most fun part of the game.
Tests of Valor were a pretty mixed bag, some were outrageous mostly in just how long they are and some were easy. I ended up just not finishing the one before you fight volf and I missed the one in ch. 11 since I didn't go down that cave before heading up to the dojo in ng1.
Favorite enemy: Vangelfs cuz they're weak as shit
Least favorite: multi-missile launcher soldiers
Favorite weapon to use: Kusarigama
Most used weapons out of necessity: Talons, maybe scythe in late game.
>>715929098The gravity in that clip looks nothing like DMC. The fact that the combos look like standing on ground combos but performed on air is pure Bayonetta too.
>>715961264go back to souls games retard
the entire genre is not for you
>>715957829Her counter is straight up over powered. I also like looking at her big booba. We need a big booba ninja game that is actually good and not the girl levels of NGS2 or Senran Kagura.
Actually kinda surprised platinum didn't make the protag of NG4 a woman.
>>715961565No. You have it wrong anon. Go back to your musous.
>>715961663>musous>player expressionthe absolute state of this thread
>>715930697>Also why do people hate on DMC5don't hate it just don't think it's anything special. main reasoning is the aerial combat is not as satisfying when the game is super floaty, along with no inertia or reversals. also nero not being able to swap through devil bringers was a missed opportunity. I only like when platinum does floaty aerial combat.
>>715961664there's literally only one guy who played Shinobi sorry bro
>>715931619>game is only a few months away>haven't revealed any of the girls yetI'm getting nervous.
>>715961724>Spot the difference
Warriors Orochi 3 is kino
>>715961664Keep replaying the stage. Iirc the water lowers and rises at fixed timing. So either be consistent to fly through or play slower to avoid drowning. Use the peak shuriken blast thing if needed and memo enemy spawns. Grab all scrolls for easy boss kills. That's basic fundies so learn them now if you plan to clear game.
>>715931439Platinum fixed Ninja Gaiden!!
>streamed god hand for /v/ once
>mike kob joined stream
>he said i wasn't that bad
Heh
>>715962062Nice. How long ago?
>>715961970what the FUCK is that?
>>715961970This looks great then you play the game and you find the series still doesn't have decent level design and is somehow easier than the average HD musou
>>715962205Were streams more common then? Seems rare these days.
>>715962335Not really, I was just adamant people in these threads should stream just for fun
No one ever does
A while ago I streamed Shinobi to a few people and we had fun
>>715961997Based, I got this game in the summer sale and had a really good time with it. I only really bought it because I saw Momiji on the cover art, but it's really a fantastic musou game in general. A funny fact I like about it is that it has more story and interaction between the Ninja Gaiden characters than they do in their own series.
How much should the player be able to do combos on bosses?
How should the bosses escape combos so it wouldn't feel cheap?
Should there be a condition that the player has to pass in order to make the bosses react to attacks with hitstun?
>>715961831Could be to avoid controversy. Keep the cute girls to be revealed only to people who actually play the game and you filtered 98% of the people who would be complaining on social media.
Or maybe there aren't any.
>>715962408>streamed ShinobiOh shit I remember that. Was fun.
>adamant people in these threads should stream just for funWould be nice but anonymity and all. Who wants to lose that?
>>715931439We are reaching a point where I cant tell the difference between gameplay of games lime DMC, Bayonetta, Nioh/RotR and Ninja Gaiden.
Its slowly starting to turn into the same homogenous blob.
>>715962670You could just make a burner twitch account with zero identifying information
Personally I want to see more streams, even from newfags, it'd be fun
But I doubt we're getting that
>>715962738Then you're a fucking retard
why do the nips have this need to add over the shoulder shooting to their hack & slash vidya. its just ruins the flow of combat and limits the vision of enemies. wanted dead and even romeo is dead are perfect examples of this. i guess the name is more fitting than we'd like to acknowledge.
>>7159625031v1 bosses shouldn't be a thing in 3d action games, 3d action games only work in crowd based fights because multiple enemies can pressure you at any time forcing you to make important decisions, which is where the fun occurs, 1v1 fights are very binary and stale and are, in essence, very turn based, simple people enjoy them for the spectacle and more sophisticated people like me don't enjoy them at all.
>>715962749You have a point. Truth is most don't play these. Best to avoid the humiliation ritual I suppose.
>>715925757 (OP)Where the fuck is the garbage man game?!
>>715963327heh... you must be talking about...
>>715962503I think bosses shouldn't be in these games period.
Just have a hard room instead.
The other solution is to have a whole other game for the bosses, just Kamiya it up for all of them and not just the last one. 70/30 split on j-action + genre of your choice. People like soulslikes, just make the bosses play like that with some in-game context as to why your character controls a bit differently and has different moves now. I think a cool idea would be something like you play as a ninja through the levels and then when you face a boss your demon mode(TM) activates and you fight the boss like that.
>>715963193>Yap yap yap yapKys
>>715925757 (OP)Still waiting for a AS switch 2 update.
You can really tell who the twitter tourists are
>>715963527It's okay anon. You'll be fine.
>>715963601Only first party games get the upgrades because Nintendo are retarded niggers.
>>715961831I thought they would not appear at all for sure when the game was revealed, now I think they will each appear for one scene.
>>715956761Suda lost his goddamn mind after No More Heroes 2.
>>715963327>>715963390The one where you're born from a garbage bag and die in one too. I think you're meant to be a disposable clone?
>>715965394Gree bodybag man. They made a statue for it, showed off concept art, then nothing was ever heard from P again.
>>715965491This fucking guy. Googlefu was weak until I typed statue in.
>>715931439>We're going against the grain by making a generic action gameThank you Platinum very cool.
>>715961831I mean, why would Rachel or Ayane help a dude that is a complete stranger to them?
>>715967057Ryu is in the game.
>>715967267It seem like Seori called him though.
>>715963883>1unless you have nostalgia itโs considered slow and boring in 2025
>2unanimously hated by the fanbase. So bad you are not even supposed to mention it
>3the only good game in the franchise and itโs 20 year old
>4literally unfinished but they still released it to squeeze money out of the starving but loyal fanbase
>5really repetitive even for a 10 hour game. many on /v/ say itโs the worst game ever
>rebootalmost as hated as 2, most people donโt even consider it part of the franchise
so how is this the best franchise in action game again?
>>715968738dmc shills in shambles
how to play ng3 well? nothing I do in ng1 and ng2 works in this game
>>715925757 (OP)Companies need to stop putting so much into big budget titles and start funding the new and weird japanese jank games. That's what made the PS2 era great.
>>715968738>1Bwuh, I was almost born at the same as this game and only played it two years ago. Its genuinely fun if you're not someone who need handholding.
>5Imagine taking opinions from the /v/ that post either post coomer threads, dramas about e-celebs or journos or /pol/shit.
Anyway. 3>1>5
>>715925757 (OP)>Martrix bullet time dodge>parry slop>gameplay that isn't hacking and slashingFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>715970347the good ones like ng or dmc werent janky at all
Am I alone in considering this up there as one of the most fun action games ever made? Tons of content, fun combat system, high replay value.
Ayane is not in NG4 because Seori already ate the "cute big breasted young girl with colored hair" budget.
>>715970667I dropped it because I died all the time on hard
>>715971192>The new game screen of someone with 100s of hours in these games
>>715971369I don't understand.
>t.Never played NG
>>715971478he only has default difficulties unlocked for someone with "100s of hours in these games"
>>715961831>>715962520>>715967057I won't buy it cause they're won't be and if they are they're probably censored
>>715965824>no one had heard about this or caresFuck this gay earth, I guess. This concept is fire.
>>715970667The game is really flawed but it's still one of my favorites.
>>715970863Sounds like the 60 minute long fully animated uncenscored Momiji sex scene is still on the menu.
https://youtu.be/MpPOV42gSCw
holy shit I thought you couldnt combo after a parry in ng1
>>715926694I love Project X Zone 2. Would love a 3!
>>715968738>so how is this the best franchise in action game again?Never was. NG mogs.
>>715973849Based but also never ever.
>>715970667The old lady was one of my shameful faps. Game was alright too I guess
>>715940414Yeah reloading wont work. If you have 3 grains and some hp missing you will always get blue essence, if you have 3 grains and full hp you will always get yellow.
>>715948164It's a really cool game, I'm glad I played it.
such a shame modern plat games are locked to switch...
>>715930697DMC5 is one of the worst games ever made.
Is "year of the ninja" an actual thing or just some marketing buzzword for NG?
>>715930697Same reason you see console war threads. A third of those people are actually that tribalistic, and the rest are just shitposting, and combined they make up more posts than genuine enjoyers of games. People will post like action games are a collection of like a dozen titles or so from three directors and there's 1-2 good ones and the rest are all unplayable dogshit.
>>715975746Likely a marketing thing since there's three NG releases this year as opposed to the several years of nothing between 3RE and now besides the Master Collection.
>>715975746heh, what a stupid non-ninja question
Blaming DMC for ruining action games is a low IQ take. Why blame DMC for doing its own thing instead of blaming all the creativeless hacks who just copy pasted its gameplay instead of creating something unique? Kamiya was the one who saw what Itsuno accomplished with DMC3 and 4 and just thought "hurrrr let me copy that"
>>715976223this, it's dmc fans who ruined action games
>Kamiya was the one who saw what Itsuno accomplished with DMC3 and 4 and just thought "hurrrr let me copy that"no idea what this part is about tho
>>715976356Read interviews and do your history lessons
>>715976389I'd rather play the games and judge them on their own
>>7159687381 is fine but has some of the worst boss fights imaginable. Also underwater segments
>>715948749tn combat isn't sluggish at all and if you truly believe it is, you could easily make the same claim for ninja gaiden.
>>715948749I don't think that's what would have happened but I also think people still would have been mad anyway if Team Ninja made NG4 because it'd probably be closer to 3RE than NG2 like they want.
>>715976550It was clearly a shitpost. Though I immediately thought of elden ring from his description
>>715970667I haven't played since the updates. I played close to launch which just had the story mode and a bad scoring system. I know there are challenges modes now and a revamped score system, I gotta give it a try.
It does a lot of cool things tho
>>715976356He's talking about how Kamiya said he played DMC4 constantly while developing Bayo 1, explicitly stating that Snatch inspired the ability for Bayo to yank enemies with Kusheldra. That said he's likely forgetting that Kamiya was actively part of DMC3's pre-production because Itsuno wanted to involve him after DMC2 was made without him at all.
>>715975746It's a marketing thing but coincidentally Sega is releasing a new Shinobi game inbetween Ragebound and NG4's release date.
>>715976953Thanks for telling me
DMCfags are the niggers of action games
>>715976953Kamiya wasn't literally part of DMC3's production, Itsuno just consulted him on certain things. Like probably inviting him out to drinks a few times and talking about the game.
>>715961387>this was way more ballbusting than warrior by a large margin, at least right at the start when you don't have all your weapons/moves and are still getting used to it. After that it's pretty smooth sailing, nothing feels truly overwhelming apart from chapter 11 with those 3 rasetsus and explosive archers finally starting to crop up.I'd say Master Ninja is the same thing. You have some exceptions here and there, like the church fight, but the hardest part of MN will always be the first two chapters, especially the second one. After that, it just gets a lot easier; exactly like you said there. I do hope you try to clear MN at some point, though. MN will force you to get good at the game, and the lower difficulties like Mentor will eventually seem ridiculously easy to you. I had to go through the entire game from scratch recently, which made me play through Mentor for the first time in ages, and after dealing with MN's bullshit for so long, Mentor just felt ridiculously easy. It's funny becuase Mentor felt incredibly hard to me when I first played the game.
>>715934124Get Kat in the team
>>715925757 (OP)man I was just thinking to myself, how come Platinum fell so fucking hard from grace?
>>715977602Of all the founders, only inaba is still at platinum
>>715977602Kamiya's game get cancelled (might not have been his fault, details are slim)
They stop working on that co-developed granblue game which i'm not sure what happened there
Bayonetta 3 was in development hell for a long time, which probably killed hype
Babylon's Fall flopped (not that it looked like a high budget title)
Overall just not releasing many games and the games they do release don't make much splash.
And then obviously Kamiya fully leaving with dozens of the companies talent leaving either to work with him or just reading the room that shit's going down.
NG4 is likely a fat paycheck for them, Microsoft is publishing it and it's being put on gamepass day 1 so sales likely don't matter if they're low.
>>715977602Platinum's bled talent its entire time existing, but because people only pay attention to directors it only feels like they lost a lot of people recently since Kamiya, Saito, Tinari & Taura all left at once (meanwhile M-Two, Tango, Nakamura's studio, etc. all exist due to Platinum departures and some went back to Capcom). Inaba is full businessman mode right now and believes live service is the way to guarantee Platinum's future even after Babylon's Fall (their worst game) failed massively. We don't even truly know how many people ACTUALLY left with Kamiya and we likely won't until we scan the credits of their next couple games and/or Okami 2.
>>715977602they always made shitty games; TMNT, Korra, mgr, and vanquish for example.
Vanquish is good idk why people keep pretending it's not
>>715978773Revengeance is overhyped but it's not a bad game.
>>715979046It's got a great baseline but the weapon upgrade system and limitations on melee put a damper on it personally.
>>715938349i like he never responded to you once you BTFO of him
It has been 20 years, and still no one has improved the 3 on 1 action formula.
https://youtu.be/omhLAbGIjXc?si=mW-FOxm_4BxZxsGn
>>715979391Cool, i'll have to download it.
>>715978140>Kamiya's game get cancelled (might not have been his fault, details are slim)Almost certainly because Atsushi Inaba wanted to do some live service bullshit with it after Babylon's Fall tanked. I think he was running his mouth about how Platinum weren't backing down from live service slop, even hiring for a new one relatively recently, so Kamiya walked under the guise of it not being a game he'd want to put his name on.
>>715979046it's almost good, but needs better melee integration, more unique moves, and more ways to punish you for a slow play style, currently it's not hard to clear it sitting in the cover the whole time on normal/hard and then forget about the game forever
https://youtu.be/v5VFSMMqKRM?si=LtaFt-NQdBrKAOLl
Square enix was handed the way to transform FF for the modern era and they just completely ignored it. The only game that came close to beating OZ was xenoblade, but itโs too boring.
>>715979391>Here's your Scarecrow broWhat did Konami mean by this
>>715979694I'm talking about Scalebound.
Project GG is definitely dead tho, the CEO of Kamiya's new studio was actually the game designer for it and is the one who proposed the idea that Kamiya should start his own studio after he announced he was leaving.
>>715979891Nah, Kingdom Hearts is the best direct adaption of JRPG to action mechanics, it's literally build around a command list and in KH2 you have a lot more control over your party behavior. FF7 remake was almost on the same level but I remember it doing similar mechanics to KH but just worse for no fucking reason considering it's made by the same fucking guy, having an actual party you can swap to in real time is cool but I remember it actually being more of a hindrance that you couldn't give your party quick commands for their cooldown abilities and had to manually swap to them or pause the game
>>715980267Kingdom hearts the allies donโt do anything. In Oz they juggle, set up combos, etc. you are actually controlling a team. The only game that comes close is xenoblade, but its too slow.
>>715980267Do we know if Hiroshi Shibata left with Kamiya and the rest to CLOVERS too? He's one of their best designers and him leaving would be as big of a blow as any of the directors.
>>715933169Agreed. God damn I need a Switch 2 patch.
>>715981000They've named like 3 people total that left plat to work at clovers and one of them already left. They've specifically been against naming who is working there, maybe to cover their asses a bit on a potential lawsuit from platinum. The shibata guy doesn't seem to have any social media or anything, just found one picture from an old blog post showing him being a BALD FUCK
>>715930697Tribalism and it's everywhere. You should see how Capcomfags act towards SNK
are dmc games fun on DMD? the first playthrough is pretty underwhelming so far
>>715983190is this your first action game or something?
I don't understand how people play Ninja Gaiden? I played the first one but the samurai horse guy kept fucking me in the ass. I thought i'll do okay because I'm into other action games but jesus
>>715983248>samurai horse guyUse your ninja bow zoomie.
>>715983248cant you just fireball him a bunch and then hit him a couple of times more to finish him off? fought him long ago so dont really remember the strat against him
>>715983235its my first time playing them since I was 12 and I only cleared them on normal once
>>715983248jaytb has pretty good guides on weapons, enemies, bosses, etc. if you dont want to experiment on your own
>>715983190The real kino is on hard. DMD is for the sweatlord ""elite""".
ninja gaiden is like a beat em up, its good
devil may cry is like dark souls, its bad
>>715979391NEO:TWEWY has been there the entire time.
Hitting a wall in DMC3 DMD against the chessboard. I think this may be the roughest time I've had, even more so than what other people usually say are the rough spots like M12 and M15. Tried looking up some strats, the quicksilver one where you just beat on the king while time slow is up or getting release charges with RG and using them on the king. But both seem reliant on enemy behaviors and sometimes I find that the king teleports away too often that even with QS it'll DT after awhile or the queen that you're supposed to get RG charges on will sometimes just not attack at all.
>>715983985>>715984397>>715984397Honestly it's been a while since i've tried it. I don't even recall the game having a tutorial so i might've missed having a bow.
>>715979391>>715980141Almira mommy my beloved
>>715986040How much do you know about the rules of chess? The king teleports because of castling, so you can stop it by killing the two rooks first, you might find that easier to do. There is something to be said for just playing it out normally though and killing them as they come if it would be more natural, they slowly become active for that reason and pawns promoting can be very risky if you can't checkmate in time.
Also it just occurred to me that the reason V's moves are all named after chess is probably directly because of this part and those enemies.
>>715987160>The king teleports because of castling, so you can stop it by killing the two rooks firstDMC3 is so fucking ludokino...
ng sigma >>>>>>>>>>> black because you can shoot your bow in mid air making retarded sections like boss heli easier
>>715988589black >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sigma because it doesn't have shitty awful rachel chapters
>>715988589It's actually easier to deal with the helicopter by aiming. But that's ok, since shooting in air makes the tank fights much better and makes using the bow in general significantly better. Sigma is also much better due to all the other changes and additions anyway.
>>715987160I'll give that a shot but it might just make the king and other pieces DT which other strats try to avoid. That's also the problem I was running into when I tried to just take out the waves naturally as they game. Just takes too long and there's too much to keep track of for how little mistakes you can try.
>>715987891It is but DMD genuinely makes me hate certain parts/enemies. I get that it's not the "intended" way to play but it's right there being sold as the biggest challenge and it often feels like everything you've learned doesn't apply from the previous difficulties. I have to give props to anyone that had the patience to SS every DMD missions, especially the nutcases who did it on the original NA release on PS2 with no continues.
>>715988810rachel chapters >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entirety of black
>>715931439Is there supposed to be a big difference between ryu and not-ryu? Nero and Dante play pretty differently at least.
>>715988589>no nunchucks in chapter 1Shit game
>>715989741Yeah, not Ryu has a shit ton of platinum gimmicks and gets new platinum weapons unlike Ryu
holy fuck forward X and forward Y were nerfed so much in 3RE, and many other things too
>>715990430I don't know why they got rid of on-landing forward Y in that game. Such a nonsensical decision.
>>715954439>>715954491>>715954536>starts off by complaining about too many enemies when it's literally the selling point of the game>goes to scold S2/2B for reducing enemy counts to 4-5 enemies when his idea of a balanced encounter is 4 enemies at a time with 2 of them always idling in the background>praises essence for "inducing" "decision" "making" and "risk-reward" while mentioning earlier how UT spam is a thing and oftentimes the only "option">calls SoB incosistent to trigger, random and reactive but also the best thing for karmamaxxing Insane amount of retardation and lack of basic knowledge from someone who managed to beat all games. Do an MRI and post the results.
Anyway to address the rest of your retarded post, enemies still get cut in half with FS and lose arms from GT, it's simply not guaranteed now for the same reason delimbing is not guaranteed with normal strings in all games, because all attacks come their own other properties that otherwise would never live to see the day. Izuna always takes out mages and sword/tac ninjas, whereas claw ninjas die from two and it was the same in vanilla with red gajas and fiend IS. Delimbing most enemies is just as frequent as in OG, and the reworked enemies are more likely to lose limbs when their HP is low so it's anything but random. 3RE literally has the most enemy types in the entire series, and the encounters always mix them up with each other. "Most enemies" in question being alchemists I guess, everyone else is susceptible to wind path nearly at all times and it takes very little effort to make GT work on healthy enemies. Wind Run is just a homing jump. Hope this helps.
>>715991808that's the best post you've made
>>715991808Rare Itagaki fag W
>>715977602>>715978140>>715978516>>715979694I think Kamiya just threw a tantrum when he found out PG made a deal with TN and Microsoft without his knowledge after he tried to scam MS with Scalebound. After NG 4 got revealed he was begging Phil again so it checks out. I say good riddance to him and the other traitors who tried to sink the ship with mid games and dumb decisions like trading one of your most ambitious IPs in Astral Chain for The Blunderful 41%. Hope we absorb the remaining talent once NG 4 is released.
>>715989741Ryu is ostensibly the same as usual, Yakumo is just a Platinum character that happens to have a couple of NG mechanics stapled to him.
>>715988987He probably meant when the helicopter goes under the bridge, I don't think you can hit it otherwise during that part.
>>715992438You're a retard, Kamiya was already the head of his own project which was going to be Platinums first fully owned original IP.
>>715992692yeah, that's the stuff
>>715992648Both characters got the same reworked block, counter and dodge mechanics, both have the grapple and they both can do the things you could do in other NG games, the control scheme will be near identical, the only difference is Yakumo has his bludbind meter whereas Ryu has ki. There are no signs of dodge offset and witch time in the game,Yakumo is the least Platinum character there's ever been. Wtf is even the same as usual?
>>715993141One game got the backing of Team NINJA and Microsoft, the other got... what exactly? The Babylon Fall's bobux? Anyone would be upset, I don't blame Kamiya.
>>715992692I originally thought that, but you can maybe get one jump shot there, two at a pinch before you can get aimed shots again which doesn't make that big of a difference, particularly since aimed shots do slightly more damage slightly faster than jump shots and you want to be able to start doing them again as soon as possible. Speaking of which, that damage difference between unaimed/jump shots and aimed shots becomes much more apparent in the later games of the series. They're still very useful due to potential delimbs, interrupts, launcher setups and so on but it's just not something I see mentioned very often and it makes Falcon's Eye in 3RE even stronger than it first seems.
The same posters saying the same things and praising the same games like a cult every thread.
>>715994636you are just mad your cult is smaller than mine
>>715994636I'd post what I'm playing but it's EX Troopers which while good so far is definitely on the outskirts of what these threads talk about (though Vanquish, RE4-6, and Rollerdrome get talked about). Been meaning to try Marlow Briggs too though.
>>715979391why couldn't V be this
>>715994415Falcon's Eye as in aiming mid-air or on the ground too? I tend to neglect the air version in favor of the normal shots due to Ki cost and the possibility of enemies blocking the arrow, which can be good too but "normal" shots do it for free. Ground version is extremely potent on the other hand, and the cancels enhance it further. Though I don't use its UT often enough even if it's good.
A summoner can only be cool if you're able to manually control you and the summon at once or even two summons side by side.
>>715996987Falcon's Eye is specifically the aiming in mid-air, and the reasons you give is exactly why it can be quite underrated. Once you get past the Ki cost though (which isn't all that big, it's a similar mentality to Cicada Surge but with even more tangible benefits) it's very helpful being able to set up safer shots to deal with ranged enemies or single out targets from above. Sniping from a launcher, air combo or Wind Path just feels great, I'm missing it a lot more in Trials than I ever thought I would and I want to test it more with headshots as it should make them more common. Enemies blocking them tends to be more on a per enemy type basis, but you can still get around it more often once they're bloody. The UT is something I haven't experimented with too much and I'll have to look more into it when I get the chance, it's probably decent at opening some fights but it helps in the car section at least.
>>715997569Stranger of Paradise has both controlling a summon separately and turning into a summon, both are cool and both can be used together.
>>715998604Huh? when, where? moreso controlling the summon separately
>>715998903The first DLC added Evoker and Summoner. The former lets you summon a spirit that shoots at enemies and replaces your Command Abilities while on that job with 4 special moves you can trigger it to do at any time as well as some repositioning options. The latter lets you outright turn into and control Bahamut with a unique moveset and mechanics based off of his boss fight.
>>715999146I'll have to try evoker next time I play. Can you be bahamut while commanding the other summon?
>>716001318Nope, you do have to swap to the other job, make him do things then swap back to Summoner and then trigger Bahamut, but 3 of the 4 abilities it has are long lasting field effects while the other can have a knockdown so it can work well in setting up to make Bahamut even more effective.
>>715988987>Sigma is also much better due to all the other changes and additions anyway.The fucked up evade system says otherwise.
>>715930697People in this shithole are retarded, if u take serioulsy anything in here u are also retarded
>>715998074I was mostly thinking about the rocket version of tac ninjas who really like to block it whereas the ground shot always gets them, and the same goes for a decent chunk of normal enemies too in my experience, so I'd always hold onto that Ki for an extra Cicada Surge instead. Funnily enough that's where the bow can help too, normally you can't Cicada out of slide but if you slide, then tap aim button, your state is changed and you can input CS, it's really fun to setup against claw ninjas for example. In general I just never felt the need to use Falcon's Eye to take out ranged enemies with how mobile you are on the ground to avoid them in first place, the bow being good at targeting them as is and them announcing their presence. Pretty sure you can even block the rockets without chip damage, so staying on the ground is just much safer to me. Sometimes I like keep them alive until the bloody rage multiplier is activated, 3RE truly got that shmup spirit.
>>715991808>>starts off by complaining about too many enemiesBraindead post, nobody said this. Check your eyes retard.
>played and beat for the first time MGR a few days ago on Hard
>decently hard but the only bosses that truly gave me trouble were Sam and Armstrong
>yesterday I finished the Sam and Wolf chapters
>start a fresh Story Mode file on Very Hard today to give it a try
>prologue mission is manageable enough, Ray gave me some trouble but defeated it after some trial and error, and first tried its second phase
>start Mission 1
>damage sponge gorilla in the very first encounter who eats parries for breakfast and will one-combo kill me with its uppercut
Holy shit talk about steep difficulty curves. Any tips you might want to share?
>>715930697I'm not angry though, the only series I hate is Bayo, and I only hate it because of the missed opportunity this game was. I'm not angry that it somehow got 2 undeserved sequels, just disappointed.
>>715991808>Delimbing most enemies is just as frequent as in OGwhy sigmatards always keep lying about this?
https://files.catbox.moe/6qdys9.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/jxe0x7.mp4
>>716004643Been ages since I played MGR, but use that move that side steps you while slashing more, don't forget about ninja run
I haven't played MGR since release sadly
>>715965824What a fukcing retarded concept, no wonder the game doesn't even exist
>>715970667No u aren't, Sifu was and still is kino anon
>>716004643On Very Hard you just have to be a little more evasive since enemies hit hard and you don't. Revengeance difficulty is genuinely easier since both enemies AND you hit like a truck provided you can parry everything.
>>716004505>In 2, a LOT of the encounters boil down to just throwing 10 of the same enemy types. 10 IS ninjas, 10 werewolves, 10 gajas, 10 van gelfs, etc and it sucks>>716004901I preemptively addressed your garbage clips in the same sentence, claw ninjas aren't "most enemies" and they still lose limbs within 4 hits despite you playing like a retard in a mode that buffs their HP.
>i addressed your criticism by posting a webm of itagaki being a faggot
>instead of showing it via gameplay
LMAO
>>716004643>haven't seen Revengeance mode yetOh boy
>>716006490>In 2, a LOT of the encounters boil down to just throwing 10 of the same enemy types. 10 IS ninjas, 10 werewolves, 10 gajas, 10 van gelfs, etc and it sucksIt's amazing how retarded you are. The complaint here is about the composition of the enemy. Nowhere in that post did I complain about the number of the enemy. Seriously, you are so fucking braindead.
>NGschizo is an ESL
Damn you niggas really let this pajeet hijack all your threads lmaoooooooooo
>>716003993Rocket tac ninjas love blocking both the ground and air shots, it's more of a timing thing and you need to shoot them at a specific window around when they try to shoot you. It's why if I have the opportunity I just run up and kill them, nice Ki bonus from the quick OT as well. You can be very mobile with slide cancelling etc. but all it takes is one guard at a bad time to get surrounded and it all to go to hell, which can happen pretty often with how setting up delimbs and SoBs effectively works out.
>3RE truly got that shmup spiritI know right? Such peak emphasis on positioning and screen control also gives it such strong classic beat em up vibes.
>>716006695Your complaints are retarded and don't make any sense, I already told you to do an MRI and post results. You bitch about tests of valor in the next sentence for the same reason when they mix up enemies in unique ways, and the first one literally features both types of ninjas and the mages.
>>716003993>shmup spirit.maybe in your delusional dreams
>>716007837>the first one literally features both types of ninjas and the magesThat's a good mix in an actual encounter. The problem with ToV is when they throw 50 werewolves and 50 IS dogs.
You're a lost cause, just admit you fucked up. You just want to argue for the sake of arguing.
>>716007646Shit I must've been really unlucky with my FE timing then, but yeah they are really block happy even when it comes to melee hits if it's the variant with some health so I just try to GT into OT them asap myself.
>>716006695Honestly, I agree with you there. I do really like how Mission Mode mixes things slightly up, though. You have some really fun encounters with mixed enemy types there, and it's all really cool because the different enemy types work quite well together. I wish the base campaign had more encounters like that.
>>716006490>in a mode that buffs their HPoh no no no queue the next cope ahahahahaha
https://files.catbox.moe/6t2ytq.mp4
autistic thread
ninja gayden fans are as deranged and delusionals as fromsoftware fans
my single player game is sooo deep
crazy people
>>715971478Autists identify with brands so they don't conceive things like playing on multiple platforms or moving savegames around.
>>716008674Blud you got self-owned when you told me to get my eyes checked only to embarrass yourself two posts later with your niggertier reading comprehension. Take the L.
>actual encountersGirl there's no difference between ToVs and "actual encounters" in their structure as evidenced by your Ch 11 clip, you kill a ninja and another spawns in his stead, one encounter just has 4 enemies at a time and the one from ToV has like 7 or 8. You literally just want less enemies.
>>716009349You got a humiliation fetish or something?
>he keeps digging deeper
I genuinely don't understand how someone can be this shameless online. Doesn't matter if it's anonymous, you have to feel embarrassed even just a little bit.
>>716009745>autistic threadAutistic world
>>716011182nah
there are mentally ill paranoid people in this thread
nobody has ever seen itagakitroon post his ng2 gameplay btw
>>716011182 Autistic universe, even. Bro we're arguing about ninja flips and dog spawn waves like it's a matter of national security.
>>715987160>the reason V's moves are all named after chess is probably directly because of this part and those enemiesWell the king does look like a certain crimson cloud fellow...
DMC5 probably retconned his red lightning being that color because of human blood from the Qliphoth too.
>>716012197I've been pestering him for his gameplay for at least 2 years now and he hasn't shown anything
>>716014152the troon is so insecure he opposes anyone who's bold enough to post his own gameplay
Make a thread later, in about 4 hours or so I will get drunk and stream Shinobi
>>716009815he said he played it on multiple platforms, primarily xbonex for the backcompat of black and OG2. He has no excuse
His master ninja file is on his other xbox bro trust me bro also his girlfriend goes to another school bro you wouldn't know her
>>716010632>Girl there's no difference...>GirlYou speak like woman
>>716015576I'll be there again if you do. Also proves this place has the same 10 posters.
What were they thinking with sigma 2? It's actually a completely different game, and a worse one at that. And no blood?! This is embarrassing, if I was on the credit list of this I'd change my name.
>>716017024>What were they thinking with sigma 2?fixing the shitty design decisions of OG 2, obviously. No blood was some consequence of some gay shit that was happening at the time, obviously they didn't do it because they hated blood now or something
Madworld, MGR, Bayo 1, Nier Automata
the only good games platinum games have ever made. and i mean theyre just beat em up slop
Is that DS game Platinum made any good?
NG4 looks like UT spam: the game more than any previous entry. Every clip is fully of cutscene moves, UT, OT, grabs, MGR zandatsu. And each room is enormous with only a few enemies on screen at once hobbling around barely trying to kill you, meanwhile you have insane traversal and AoE. The art direction also doesn't fit the style of NG at all. Those trick weapons like a hammer powered by a rocket seems so out of place compared to Ryu in the past just being powered by skill and muscle.
>>716018182Infinite space
>>716005067>>716005365Yeah, past that very first encounter, the rest was easier. I just beat Mistral so I'm done for the day, and I bought the side step before starting the next chapter.
I'm really not looking forward to fighting Sam.
>>716012391It's literally just one ninja dog doing mental flips to cope with being too low t for NG 2, while simultaneously being in denial about wanting a game about lower enemy counts with higher HP pools made by people who got paid more for doing less. Subhuman cites NG 1's encounter design with 3 enemies at a time, 1 ranged and 2 melee (without realizing how it can still be just one enemy type because plenty got both ranged and melee options), posts his gameplay with just 4 enemies at once but then goes like "nah bro I just want to fight 3 mech vangelfs, 1 marionette, 2 fiend mages, 2 IS ninjas and 2 werewolves all at once with them constantly going between ranged and melee modes" as if it's gonna alleviate his need for UTs by the virtue of featuring different enemy types in a fight. My brother in science you literally lost half hp in the easiest encounter of the chapter, shut the fuck up. Dawg is so deranged he laser focused on one point out of the 20 I made in the post and still couldn't comprehend it, like I explicitly said IS Ninjas got reworked while most other enemies delimb just as quick, so what does the retard do? He goes into the game, clears like 6 encounters with grey ninjas, doesn't show them of course, and then records his shit fight with IS ninjas where he plays like retard and doesn't finish the strings and they still lose limbs within 5 hits, and then he does it AGAIN except this time they die even quicker.
>>716014152>admits to gameplay begging for two fucking years>>716012197>>716014401I've posted plenty of my gameplay, guess you're new here but even then the webms were good enough to get reposted by other people to this day although they aren't up to my current standard.
>>715961472Nta but I'm pretty sure the joke is that NG4 is being headlined by a young newcomer while still having the original protagonist being playable, just like DMC4
>>716019482just post your gameplay brother, you can do the same fight he did and everyone will clap
itagakitroon will never get rid of his btfod status unless he starts posting his own gameplay on that same encounter
you have 24 hours to post your own gameplay or you will be forever branded as a poser
>>716019482>I-I totally posted gameplay before even though I have no proof and I refuse to post any
sirs, what soft ware to using for making clips of gameplay? My computer very old will i be still can play while capture?
>>716021585obs
webmconverter (formerly known as for webm for retards/lazys)
>>716021998>formerly known as for webm for retardsis nothing safe from censorship?
>beggars think they are in position to demand anything and give ultimatumsI am on NG detox right now, at another place with no means to play the game and I literally announced my comeback in the upcoming weeks in the last thread
>>715919715 , just hold on until that.
>>716024080>another excuseyeah it's never happening retard lmfao eternally btfod
>talks a lot of shit about how other people play the game
>can't post his own gameplay
if you ever wonder why this thread stopped posting gameplay or streaming games, it's because of idiots like this guy
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>>716024473I, Mr Anon of Anonland, will be the one to bring back gameplay posting, gameplay streams and real discussion
Only real ones know this niche title.
>>71602462625 years ago TN predicted Yakumo. Unless they saw this line and made it out of spite
>>716024473Dawg I literally posted shitton of NG clips in particular and unlike 99.9% of the NG 2 footage that gets posted here (which isn't even theirs) it's all real, non-staged gameplay.
I checked my discord where I dump all my stuff for preservation and there's some old video of me just flowcharting through the beginning of chapter 1, and getting rekt in the only encounter where I deviated a bit, it's still more technical and with more enemies than that ninja dog's gameplay so guess I could upload that, already see people coping and saying I stole it or some shit . Man not having discord nitro sucks, the upload limit is brutal.
>>715925757 (OP)>platinumgames banner>no bayonettajust, why?
This is Dark Souls before Dark Souls
>>716024908>shitton of NG 2 clips in particular
>say you're gonna post gameplay
>everyone suddenly gets quiet
it's afraid.
>thinks anything is going to happen 60 posts before the thread ends
God I'm sick of newfags
>>716025680More like anticipation.
you guys have limited posts in 4chan?
Does the wonderful 101 run better on switch 2?
>>716025989Is this literally your first day?
>>716025680i'm just waiting to laugh at you spam UTs and OTs
Poser thread
>Nobody has ever posted gameplay
>>716026254>>716025680Why not be the one to start posting gameplay? You've gone about how great you are constantly
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Just migrating all my PS2 games bros, then I'll start up a stream
>>716026254I've posted gameplay multiple times though. Here's rare footage of Ice Storm being useful again.
what ever happened to that overpowering thing in the Murai fight? Is there any other boss where you cross weapons and have to mash to win in the game?
>>716026496this is such boss slop
>>716026497turned it into qte slop in 3
>>716026497I think Sigma 2 has something similar with Genshin
>>715948164I would like to Try it but why is every tendy game over 40 dollars
>check thread after a while
>dumbass is still seething at my gameplay
>even starts accusing people of stealing footage
Here's me changing to the default falcon suit. Karma points don't lie, that's not something you can cheat.
https://youtu.be/4ZFv2MbmBLE
here's mine
any hardcore ninja insight on improving at the game?
>>716027161Why don't you just make a burner twitch account and show us playing?
>>716027203I've already posted my gameplay here
>>715954439Ask that itagakischizo what's taking him so long posting his own.
>>716027293I must humbly kneel anon, I was indeed asking the Itagakischizo why he can't post his gameplay, not you
I am back. Holy fuck Just watched the vid with audio on and there's slight delay caused by the emulator settings, and I still no damaged two IS encounters with zero UTs with perfectly timed iframes from dodges, fs, etc, just goes to show how I am One with the game. From now on the new standard for gameplay to back up the talk is 5 min uninterrupted clips with no items and minimal uts at the very least.
>>716026118Had literally just one UT which was cool as fuck and killed two targets only. Lots of hawk tuahs though and I didn't sugarcoat (XYXXXY)
>>716027161Nobody accused you of anything, moron.
>>716027368>didn't sugarcoat it
>>715925757 (OP)>J-ActionWhat do we think about K-Action though?
just did a no damage ng2 mn speed run and set a new record
>>716027730If shmup world records don't need proof than neither do you, congrats bro
>>716027791thank you it was very tough
>>716027176I feel like you aren't familiar enough with the enemy movesets maybe, you didn't counter once and you buffered izuna twice, not expecting the MSAT commando to block the launcher in both cases.
I've never played Ninja Gaiden, which version of it is best to play?
>>715961831Perhaps it might be near release when we will see a demo and more scenes of the game.
>>716028357>you didn't counter onceI just don't use those, probably should start tho
>not expecting the MSAT commando to block the launcher in both cases.true, I usually forward Y into air Y against them to get a knockdown, wasn't paying attention I guess
>>716028648Ninja Gaiden Black/Sigma, og ng2, ng3 razors edge
>>716028648>never played Ninja GaidenBuy the MC and you'll be fine.
>>715978516>Inaba is full businessman mode right now and believes live service is the way to guarantee Platinum's future even after Babylon's Fall (their worst game) failed massively.Main issue with this idealogy is it only works when you have a big company or enough investment to make it work with veterans who know how it works at the helm. Main issue is Live Services even if they are profitable and when they are successful they make tons of money, is that it can fail spectacularly and bleed time and money. It's very resource intensive. I can not blame Kamiya, he always thought of Games as an Art, a certain craft, not some kind of product to be exploited endlessly.
>games as an art
>adds shitty minigames from what he half remembers observing in the arcade
>he never touched arcade games in his life
>never NSIC PPed his game
>can barely even play them above normal
>>716027669Koreans have never made a single good game ever. They should stick to consumer electronics.
>>716027176Within the first few seconds I can tell you're not holding block during animations. Hence essence flying towards you on their own. So block even if you're airborne etc
>>716028648Master collection but emulate NG2. Sigma isn't bad per se but it's a colossal downgrade.
>>716028914>>716028916>>716029237I also have to ask why did they make the Master Collection but also remake Ninja Gaiden 2 on UE5?
>>716029259To swindle people for money bro
>>716029142I do, I just didnt want to abuse UT's at first
Make yourself a Twitch burner jaja it'll pay off bigly.
>itagakischizo when someone asks if he actually played the games he jerked off
Reminder Itagaki is a literal scam artist and he tried an NFT con
>>716029538Weave your narrative around deez nutz nigger
*Mic drops***
>>716028854Yeah you should, lots of missed opportunities in the vid. Also most enemies will dodge or block the second half of the >XX>XX string when you transition to the running move so you should learn to anticipate it or not do it.
Anyway it's up, 5m30s of humiliation ritual, flying swallow slop, izuna slop, wallattack slop, iframe slop, shuriken slop, flowchart slop and so on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llw2pkKr4SM
>>716029259Because people shit on them and all the bad reviews on MC are because of NGS2 and they basically just got rid of some of the bad stuff without fixing anything. There's a mod that tries to restore both NGS2 and NG2"B" to be as similar to OG2 as possible.
If they got rid of the bad stuff in NG2 they'd have to delete the whole game
>>716029658good shit bro, thanks for the tips
I'm playing MN and I think Deathless hard is possible. But at the same time I'm playing Vanilla on RPCS3 (sadly the dlc don't work campaign), I think almost everything from vanilla combat could come back except the free flow thing. Which arguably is fun but NG wasn't designed for it. Vanilla stuff that no-one mentions
>Struggle system
it's not just Regent who has struggle battles with the player, any NPC can get into struggle with the player, although it's random. I think it could be reworked in the SOB in the UN.
>Dash to OT
Why did they take it out of the game?
I think everyone remembers the rest
>>716029259To add blood to the better version of the game and address a few small downsides while being gaslit into making some aspects worse.
Alright the threads over, next thread will be the revolution
>>716029749It's wild that no one talks about the broken spawns, enemies that can't be OT, random crashes, buggy physics and many others that you find in a normal NG2 playthrough
>>715979891Thanks for the video on Sword Of Etheria I greatly enjoyed when Games were made for fun and Gameplay than just Graphics and to pander to nonexistent audiences. Simpler times.
>>715977182Kamiya at some point literally told Itsuno to do whatever the fuck he wants because he was sick of getting calls from him about the game
>>716029658fake gameplay, it doesn't have shitty rock music playing over it
>>715981000>>715982901It makes sense that they will not name names until they have left for a year and 3 months. Kamiya had to be really silent about his departure and where he would work until CLOVERS was created.
>>715983248Be good at understanding the basics, block, attack and just be aggressive. If you are good at DMC3 and even DMC5, you will begin to understand Ninja Gaiden much easier as a more aggression focused action game.
>>716029942Migrate to Mork thread
>>716001318>>716001585That is something I hope can be in Strangers Of Paradise 2 if it ever happens.
>>716025680Can't be that hard to use OBS upload it to Youtube, then post it here.
>>716030564It works out for the best this way, as great as Evoker is it means you can swap jobs to get access to your Command Abilities again without unsummoning the spirit which are equally important.
>>716029658>this dude who almost died to white ninjas is calling other people ninja dog
>>716030840NTA but ng2 is designed to deal damage at all times
>>716030840>on the verge of death>doesnt heal, doesnt panic, doesnt desperately look for iframes, keeps his cool like an absolute boss >stays aggressive and utilizies variety of strings for subtle crowd control and clever repositioningYep, actual master freaking ninja.
>>716031446>My brother in science you literally lost half hp in the easiest encounter of the chapter, shut the fuck upnigga you're fighting WHITE ninjas on chapter ONE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>716027176The only thing I can really add onto what's already been said is you want to be careful with how often you jump, particularly roll jumping and without a destination in mind. It can both cost you openings and leave you open yourself based on what you're fighting. Single shurikens on the ground are good to throw out to keep enemies in check if you're feeling pressured, similarly more Wind Path can be nice so you could fit quite a bit more of both in.
>>716030840There were mages in that fight too though.
>>716031948a huge chunk of the damage came from getting grabbed by a white ninja because he's too busy mashing y to fish for OT
https://youtu.be/Llw2pkKr4SM?si=qDSlpyXarlEw63Dm&t=189
i wouldn't be this critical about this if it didn't come from that retard though, that guy talks like he's flawless
the other guy's gameplay was perfectly fine for someone who started playing the games recently
>>716031782It's real, non-staged gameplay so mistakes are bound to happen no matter what, recovering from them is what separates true masters of the game from ninja dogs. It's one encounter vs like 10 others where I did near flawlessly. Cope.
Why does Itagakischizo keep using the phrase "non-staged"?
>>716032650Because I am just casually playing through the game like a normal human being instead of clip farming at the start of a chapter or next to a checkpoint. Unlike twitter frauds or that ninja dog.
>>716031824thanks, I'll keep that in mind
There's plenty of mistakes I've made in the video but it takes real game knowledge to notice and pinpoint them so of course the retard just focuses on the low hanging fruit like grabs. Embarrassing.
>>716033187nobody cares troon