How did we go from this,

>>716213547 (OP)
to this?

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
They realised that pandering to limp wristed soi chugging manchildren results in a bigger revenue.

>>716213585
>hard lockon to cater to soulsfags
>infinite turnrate so the hard lockon never breaks
it got infected by rollslop cancer

>>716213547 (OP)
KEK i forgot how dogshit the earlier AC games were

reminder that they found this datamining ac6 a year back

>>716214069
also i'm trans btw not sure if that matters

>>716213547 (OP)
I saw that myself and it negated allninterest in AC6. Though V wwas bad too.

>Why?
Aome people in the past were better.
People who got their position from university only offer the suppression that subdued them.

>>716213956
It's a shame cause it lost the feeling that you were piloting this machine with real inertia and weight that you had to manhandle. You had to track things with your eyes and would often lose track of your opponent because of human limits combined with the speed of the game.
Now you're just a weightless turret that can spin 180 degrees instantly, there's no tension to any of the fights your opponent never leaves your field of view.

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
I felt the same when the 4th generation released and was completely different to classic AC. But then I forgave it, because they were still great games. Same with AC6.

>>716213547 (OP)
>posting Shit like 4 as an example
Post an actual AC game you fucking retard before you Shitpost about Gen wars

>>716214346
>>716214357
>muh 4th gen le bad xD
dilate

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
Dark souls came out in 2011 less then 6 month away from Armored Core V. ACV was harder, more ambitious, more complex game than Dark Souls, probably cost more in development too. Yet Dark Souls drastically outsold it or any previous AC game. From financial standpoint it make total sense to cater to bigger more casual audience.

>>716214181
>I saw that myself and it negated allninterest in AC6. Though V wwas bad too.
kek shut the fuck up contrarian pseudo-oldfag retard, don't you have some MH threads to shit up with your "anything after gen 1 is fake MonHun" takes, noone respects you or your truer and more og than thou opinions, everyone thinks your a fag

>>716214346
Welcome to the majority of people who played AC that's the general consensus if I'm being honest

>>716213585
they wanted the souls audience

>>716214190
>there's no tension to any of the fights your opponent never leaves your field of view.
That's not true, especially with lighter builds. That's why movement is so important, hard lock on will not save you (neither will pad).

>>716214439
Yes you're fast shit is just as cancer as 6's bullshit same reason why 5 and Vd Completely overshadowed 4

AC getting hit by the zelda cycle so hard that niggas are screaming the dual stick HD era AC games are "traditional" has the small silver lining of getting to see these faggots eventually crying "well 6 was really the last good traditional AC game!"

>>716214496
>MH threads
funny you say that, AC6 is literally the equivalent of mhworld
everybody (newfags) loved it when it came out and now everybody (oldfags and newfags) hates it for the permanent casualization and sloppification of the series
AC6 will follow the exact same fate kek

I miss it

Every AC, 4 and up is a flight sim not a mecha game

>>716214719
>the permanent casualization and sloppification of the series
Didn't start with 6 so no

I am playing 1 right now, I am excite to export save to the next games
wish me luck!!!

>>716214884
lmao cope

>>716213547 (OP)
To this?

>>716214808
>posts a tank sim

>>716214924
Yeah we know you are bro don't have to say it out loud

>>716214808
my nigga, go play on OpenCOMBAS already

So what's the next people will cry about for no when 6 gets an Expansion or 7 gets announced?

To this?

>>716215056
I'm still gonna cry about not getting PC ports of the older AC games.

at least AC6 didn't delegate model designs and proportioning to AI

The only lame AC game is PP if I'm being honest

>>716215092
It's never happening and emulating is literally the only option

>>716215116
is that... Front Mission? what have they done to my boyyy

>>716215092
just emulate them anon they work fine, there isn't a lack of accessibility so that isn't an argument you can use

>>716214575
Yep, the moment the new AC comes, a new narrative will come out.

I just want a new AC game with the usual old FVC (I think that's how it was called) and actual turning speed so lightweight builds actually have a chance against heavyweight or tanks..

>>716215002
How long has this been a thing and have you got it working

>>716213547 (OP)
Would love to play this but want a modern port of it for PS5 or Switch. Don't want to have to get the 360 or PS3 out again. And no I don't want to emulate either.
>>716213585
Only game in the series I played but I thought it was fantastic.

>>716213585
They watched Gundam Seed and liked it.

>>716215182
>>716215224
I'm glad I kept my PS3 Slim from ages ago (still works to this day despite being a 'vulnerable' model) so that I can keep playing the 4th and 5th gen AC games.
RPCS3 is the worst emulator known to man and I am impressed they keep trying to make it work when Xenia JUST WERKS.
Except for Ninja Gaiden 2. No matter how hard I try, the game's audio just cuts out after 4 minutes.
>>716215245
it's been a thing for about 1-2 months now, and they're trying to figure out the Neroimus War
currently what's available is just about every map, part and gamemode (except for NW of course) in PvP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiyC520uBwg

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
Technology advanced.
Why would you still hangs on tank movement when you can move things more flexibly?
Maybe mechwarrior is more to your taste.

>>716215359
Xenia is a crapshoot, too, it's all game by game basis

>>716214346
4th gen would've been actual dogshit like the 5th is if it wasn't because of FA. FA is god tier lvdo. It's amazing From pumped out so many of these but only FA and LR were actually good.

>>716214116
I'm not trans LOL, I'm a white male

>>716215283
AC4A actually emulates really well and even have an online community of people you can play the game against via emulation.

I was never able to get energy limit remover to work in AA2. I know how to do it and even set up a macro in the my emulator but it just overboosts. I hope I won't really need it in Another Age as I've yet to start that one but just beat AA2 in my series playthrough.

>>716215519
I feel like most emulators basically stop at the 6th gen (not even Xemu is very reliable, but probably because the OGX is a complicated nightmare to begin with) and maybe certain 7th gen handhelds like 3DS and Vita (Citra is a stuttery piece of shit and neither of its later forks fixed issues I have with it and MelonDS is very freeze-happy for me, Vita3K is fine tho)

>>716213547 (OP)
If there is one thing that I truly miss is the first person mode

>>716213585
Eldenring 2 died for this?
I fucking hate mechafags

>>716215056
you just know AC7 is going to chaae open world slop from the success of elden ring

>>716215797
Cry about it

>>716215691
>AC1 through AC3 had it as a cheat
>AC3SL had it as an actual, official cockpit mode that entirely changes the experience
>it's not in the PSP release
>there is never a singular first-person cheat since then
Why?

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
>WAITING 10 YEARS
>FOR THIS
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>716215808
Death Stranding but... MECHAS

>>716215808
>Open World
Never gonna happen it's going to say mission based

>>716215546
holy newfag

>>716215938
that's what MHfags said btw KEK

>>716214346
Yeah most people have this thought process especially since From has a good track record of good games.

Why is there no Monster Hunter clone, but with mechs and kaijus?
No seriously, there's literally nothing.

>>716216068
I mean DxM was doing the mission based random part looting thing, it just also sucked ass.

>>716216016
Good thing AC isn't MH sorry to burst your bubble bro

>>716216068
kino coming out soon

>>716216181
I hope to fucking GOD that the powersuit shit isn't a requirement.

>>716213547 (OP)
AC4 already was a compromised AC. ACVD was a return to but we once again descended into trash with AC6.

>>716216108
>DxM
God that game is a fucking mess never understood why people were sucking it off so much

>>716216225
Power armor is super cool and gets no games either, and DxM sucked anyway so I don't mind what they do in the sequel.

>>716216225
Sorry bro Arsenals are Iron man suits now

>>716216327
>>716216293

>>716215843
>cockpit mode
i now have a reason to try this series

>>716216463
it's only official in Silent Line
every game after, you have to punch in a cheat for it and all it does is just change where the camera is

>>716213585
They're trying to make it more of a pure action game.

>>716216387
Hey man, I'm a die hard power armor lover and we don't get SHIT. Mecha is a whole genre, even as underused as it is.
Halo doesn't count.

>>716216580
Fine, I'll allow it.
I'll just pretend I'm in a Scopedog.

>>716216529
this >>716213547 (OP) looks a lot more like an action game than this >>716213585 pseudo soulslop crap

>>716216580
That is an incredibly sexy power armor design.

>>716216652
>looks
How about play.

>>716216976
>one requires precise timing and button inputs to turn, players have to actively track the enemy and melee attacks need to be aimed
>the other automatically tracks and turns towards the enemy for you, also your weapons have cooldown lmao
what do you think retard?

So the leaks make it obvious we're getting more AC which is good hopefully a different route with Balem

>>716215914
Gotchu senpai
I will debunk your gif, everytime.

>>716216068
So you wanted dark souls but with AC 6 movements?

>>716217419
Don't spread lies. I don't want to cling on false hope.

>>716217221
>one plays like a regular action game
Yes.

>>716217604
I mean it's already obvious it's something especially since it's been 2 years since 6 came out

>old good new bad
someone bring out the "posted it again" ribbon

>>716217701
true, the other plays like dark souls

>>716217828
Dark souls is an AC clone t b h

>>716217828
And Dark Souls controls like any other action game.

>>716217918
dark souls has its own genre because it's goyslop and not a real action game
shit is closer to ATB than action lol

>>716217428
>no roguelite mode in an infinitely large grid of environments like this
wasted potential

>>716218206
>roguelite
kill yourself

>>716216293
>no games either,
How does one make such a travesty like Anthem

>>716218314
Release a game with really conflicted design goals like being a narrative focused looter shooter with both a bad narrative and bad looter systems. Then immediately get cold feet after release and kill all updates so it never ever gets unshitted.

>>716218247
killing me won't bring your dead game back to life meanwhile rollsloppers are eating good with nightreign

>>716216068
Lost Planet 2, kinda.

>numbersfag
Grim

>>716215116
Reminds me of phantom brigade (derogatory).

>>716215843
It's a cheat in ACLR but you need to complete it first.
Also the FCS is the same as normal so it's a struggle to use.

>>716217428
Cool, it has an animation now.
Am I supposed to be impressed when the AC's direction in the OP's WEBM is locked to the camera's facing direction?

>>716213547 (OP)
>Armored Core mecha game

>>716213585
>Gundam Versus arcade game

>>716218868
holy shit it makes so much sense now

>>716217793
It's true, thoughever.

>>716218859
This gif is the reason why I stopped playing AC6 pvp.
Fuck heavyweight and fuck tanks.
I don't mind dying in 3 hits if I use lightweight vs tanks but at least give me some advantage because right now there are zero

>>716215507
>Why would you still hangs on tank movement when you can move things more flexibly?
Because it's a mecha game, emulating the feel of piloting a gigantic robot.

It's not related to tech at all. FROM had Another Century's Episode games with simplified, more action arcade controls alongside Armored Core.

I dislike the aerial movement in 6, it actually feels better in MOA.

>>716219029
what put me off from AC6 permanently was the 1000$ fan tournament
the finals was literally just
>heavyweight missile boat rat (losers bracket)
>wheelchair with 2 zooks and 2 manual aim plasma cannons, who constantly hit his manual aim shots like he was aimbotting with them
the finals were decided after 4 consecutive timescam wins

>>716219060
>emulating the feel of piloting a gigantic robot
You can watch the cutscenes in the older games and they clearly don't have slow stiff turn speeds. These mechs aren't supposed to be stiff and restricted. From just likes to stick with mechanics for ages. Look how long it took them to put a regular jump button into souls.

>>716217428
the fuck are you talking about it did the exact same thing as >>716215914

mech warrior did mech feets the best
https://youtu.be/IdpkbLvufDI
the thing actually spins on the foot while the foot stays in place when turning rather than the whole model spinning on the spot

>>716219191
You're baiting so there's no point in talking to you.

>>716219216
>the thing actually spins on the foot while the foot stays in place when turning rather than the whole model spinning on the spot
this was apparently lost in MW5M and MWO, you literally just rotate and walk in-place

>>716217428
nta but watch that thing again frame by frame...

>>716219175
>the finals were decided after 4 consecutive timescam wins
I'm actually genuinely impressed. I didn't think it was that bad.

>>716219259
such a goddamn shame

>>716219060
>emulating the feel of piloting a gigantic robot.
Huh? but Fire control system is a thing in real life.
Jets a thing in real life.
Why would gigantic robots, which should be more advanced than real-life military tech, have outdated controls?
That doesn't make any sense.

>>716219245
You're literally talking to me right now.

AC isn't supposed to be slow and clunky. From just made games like that. Go play spriggan, you play as a super soldier in speedy power armor and you have clunky tank controls lol

>>716219245
So you have no basis in saying what makes something a mecha games?

>wahh muh movement
you fags probably never even piloted a mech before

>>716219175
>after 4 consecutive timescam wins
Nothing new really as bad as constant Overboost running in LR

>>716219319
the new WASD controls (which I consider more canonical to BT due to the myomer muscle) are even jankier in drone cam, you'll always run forwards, even if you're holding S
it feels way nicer to play the game after using the classic controls all the time, but it's so fucking buggy it's impressive it made it into the final release with DLC5

>>716219216
Most of the combat in this video is him standing entirely still while cycling through his laser cooldowns. Turrettech is slow as balls.

>>716219278
thank you for agreeing.

>>716219476
because the timescamming was done in basically the same way, with overboost cancels so that the fucker ran away as fast as possible
and even then, that strat isn't nearly as common in ACLR because it's just faster and safer to kill the bastard

>>716219543
you are delusional

>>716219519
the point was the animation
around 8:25 is when you actually see the feets animation and the robot turning on the foot rather than the whole model just spinning in place
reminds me of how some of the games have the models just gliding across the ground while running and you can see their feet just skating when the animation plants the foot on the ground

>>716219458
if it wasn't a million dollars, I would
>what are you, poor?
i'm sensible with money

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
Both them are great games, and the older games are great too. Being a contrarian who bases their entire personality on hatings things doesn't make you cool.

>finish a classic AC level
Phew, that was tough, but I got there in the end! I wonder how much I earned
>-1000 dollars lol eat shit

Why were they obsessed with older AC games having absolutely poverty-tier early game? Once you get halfway you always have more money than god, but the first ten missions where you're struggling to replace your dogturds starter shit always fucking drag.

>>716219696
>not posting the "totally not a quad AC from AC3, including the starter crest head" one
That does bring up the question: when are we gonna start miniaturizing our reactor technology to make real mechs possible?

>>716219860
replayability little zoom zoom

>>716219637
also 12:25 shows the mech turning and shows how the foot stays planted and the mech turns on it while tracking a fast moving vehicle

>>716219860
>he didn't beat the shit out of Adieu for a sleek 60k credits
You're not a Raven.

>>716215928
I would unironically play the fuck out of this. They teased an image that has big porter energy

>>716220090
that's a cool ass looking mech

>>716219860
playing through the arena solved a lot of your money problems
also reloading after every failure
also getting super deep into debt unlocked a certain something

>>716219879
i thought about how in the future, we might get liquid cores reactor that use magnetohydrodynamic generators. basically you turn the uranium into plasma and circulate it in a ring like a particle accelerator, but as it goes through magnets it generates massive amounts of electricity. it would be able to make huge amounts of power in a small package, but people are too scared to turn nuclear fuel into a plasma like that i think. but if you did it, in theory you could make it a super compact reactor for portable vehicles.

>>716217987
Wow, as much of an ATB as FF remake is

>>716219947
>raven it's an emergency, we need you to commit warcrimes in our secret lab, our losses would be immeasurable otherwise
>we'll pay you ten dollars, so you better not bring any of the fun guns, it's the bubble launcher povvo shit for you
>>716220090
>>716220171
I don't like the arena. Missions are more fun than fighting 20 niggas in a row before the payouts become any decent.

>>716220165
because it's literally the starter AC with a basic paintjob, new legs, and no missile launcher

>>716219060
Mecha has never been about that retard go play mechwarrior if you want realistic giant robots.

>>716220197
MHD reactors were seen as just less efficient than the new-and-shiny nuclear reactors that were being researched in the 70s.
That idea really does sound like it would work, but sadly the electric jew means that people are gonna be scared of anything involving uranium, even though you can literally swim in the reactor's water without any adverse side effects other than burning yourself because it's literally boiling.

>>716219376
AC has never been slow or clunky. You were just bad at them.
>clunky tank controls
Or more likely were too young to even play them. Why are zoomers always so afraid of different control schemes?
https://youtu.be/j3-16ZZEwlM?si=_OBkd4hIVaJg86Gd&t=50

>>716220428
>Why are zoomers always so afraid of different control schemes?
zoomers love complicated controls schemes and will make up weird fucking ways to do simple shit like a 360 noscope (adding shit like YYs, bounces, etc.)
it's millennials that don't like change when it deviates from their gay shit

>>716220247
> I don't like the arena
funny it became the opposite for me
not all the mission werent really engaging except when some raven jumped out and tried to start shit or the gimmick levels like the air transport escort mission among others

>>716220517
arenas are the best part of any game
I love arenas
if the games doesn't have an arena, it is shit

>>716220409
does it boil? i thought that was avoided because it would cause voidouts where radiation would just pass through the pockets of bubble, not dissipate heat, and concentrate once more. or i guess that was just a chernobyl thing.

>>716220705
i mean that's literally what they do at nuclear powerplants is that they just use the uranium to boil water to spin a turbine at 60 cycles a second (50 in the EU)
and yes anon, we harnessed the power of the atom to boil some fucking water

>i thought it was avoided because it would cause voidouts
the radiation can pass through water no problem, it's just that they basically cover everything in lead and concrete so that it doesn't leak out, chernobyl was moreso because everything melted together
there's also the fact that the sarcophagus is actually holding back a huge bout of radiation and fumes that could cause an ecological disaster

>>716217428
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/Bpopv135-5FLuDIHwUXKJA/

Stop spamming, ape. Your webm proves nothing.

>>716220428
It has tank controls for a mech that's not supposed to control like a tank. It's clunky. They've been experimenting with different control schemes for 20 years, you'll learn to live with it.

God, imagine how asshurt the mechwarrior fans will be when someone finally makes a canon controls game for them too and they just walk around like people.

>>716221003
>leg moves to turn
Thank for agreeing with me.

>>716221003
man just being able to see the front of your mech in an AC game feels so fucking wrong

>>716221174
Not him, but who cares for the fucking animation.
The point is that mech is turning 180 instantly no matter the size of the mech

>>716221249
Have you not play any AC games before 6?
That's a weird statement to make.

>>716220705
>>716220839
The Chernobyl reactor was made using an extremely cheap design, cheaper than anything anyone else used.
>No heat exchanger, water was directly boiled by the uranium fuel
>no metal/concrete containment building for the reactor)
>instead of pressurized water they just used hollow graphite as the maintaining agent for the nuclear chain
>boron control rods were graphite-tipped too, which increases reactor output when inserted
And a whole host of other issues.
The actual cause? Inexperience from new and young recruits, a badly written procedure binder, followed by serious xenon poisoning.
Then the reactor went into a runaway reaction despite the xenon poisoning because they only had like 8 control rods in there. 15 was the minimum, and the reactor had about 220. Said graphite-tipped control rods were suddenly inserted all at once in a SCRAM procedure (basically shove everything in, in a last ditch effort to stop the reactor outright).

Reactor output peaked like flooring the gas pedal in a car. Control rods couldn't move further down. Pressure kept building until it blew a 450 metric ton lid clean off the reactor. Air and steam rushed into the core, reacting with the zirconium jacket of the fuel rods, creating a shitload of flammable hydrogen, causing a massive explosion that released a lot of radioactive material into the atmosphere.

>>716221342
have you?

>>716221003
>6 results
>spam

>>716221332
Ah so project your own issue about movement when the first gif is about how the movement isn't possible due to animation. I see. So it's a misunderstood on your part all along.

>>716221342
it's one thing to look at it in the garage, it's another for your own AC to look directly at you while you're playing

>>716221174
Retard

>>716221435
>>716221332
stop replying to that faggot, he's ragebaiting the fuck out of you

>>716213547 (OP)
This is a mech
>>716213585
This is a rollslop protagonist

>>716221380
I just replaying last raven to see if it is the case. You're right.

>>716220492
Millennials complain about tons of different things, but generally not controls. In the past videogame controls weren't nearly as standardised, it was perfectly normal for every game to have its own weird bespoke way of doing things so people were perfectly comfortable with it.
For people below a certain age though it seems like they'll absolutely only accept the exact style of controls they got used to growing up. Tank controls for zoomers is like garlic for vampires, it's just bizarre to me. Especially when you consider that just as you say they are perfectly capable of learning complex and unintuitive controls like modern FPSs. I suppose the problem is just that they got used to those controls at such an early age that they don't remember what it was like, and are unwilling to learn for anything else.
>>716221159
AC has changed tons of times, and I like all of the games including the new ones, i'm perfectly used to it, the problem is the other way around. AC games had turn speed as an intentional mechanic, you could build your mech to have more or less of it, all the way back in the 2nd generation you could even add quick boost turn parts to instantly rotate your AC around. It was never "clunky", clunky is just the term zoomers use when a game doesn't match exactly the control scheme that they got used to back when they were a toddler first playing games.
for the most part it's your loss, but I bet it's also part of the reason games are all so homogenous nowadays. Anything non-standard gets shit on as bad before people even try to adapt.

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
>waste money on the movement type no one ever uses
>just so that retards on the internet can find something else to cherry pick

The fact that you're still obsessed about this shit is all the evidence anyone needs to know AC6 was the GOAT.

>>716221907
I only really started playing games at about 17 years old, that was back in 2013.
I actually hate it when games just have the same, sanitized control schemes. Even when a game has C as crouch, it makes me smile.

>UGH these WALKING animations!

Who the fuck walks in this game? Does your brain work?

>>716221907
>It was never "clunky",
It was tank control gameplay for mechs that are supposed to move fast and smooth. It's clunky. They made all their games clunky as fuck back then and AC stuck with the controls for longer. All their games were like this.

Turn speed is fine. The lack of dual stick was just them doing the same shit over and over like they usually do. I didn't lose out on anything, I've finished all the old gen games I liked. It's also better now.

>>716221939
It's alright, they're the minority. And I'm not even talking about the "actual" AC fags. I'm talking about the self-proclaimed elitists whose only source of pride is beating the game with the old controls, something that's not even remotely impressive, mind you, since anyone can do that. Then AC6 took away their only sense of dignity, and now they're whining about it.

I shouldn't even say 'they'. it's just that one dedicated fag. And the best part? For all his crying, he'll still buy the next AC game the moment it's released.

>>716222001
I grew up with games that just put keys fucking wherever they felt like it with every title and I'm much happier with standardized wasd. Saves me having to rebind that shit.

>>716222393
Oh yeah, and the era of console games that frequently wouldn't even let you uninvert controls. Death. Misery. Pain.
Silver lining of today that I can usually just rebind my emulator inputs now.

>>716213956
>>hard lockon to cater to soulsfags
Souls games have their own turn rate specific to each attack
In Souls games you can lock on and still miss, and so does the enemy
Don't compare this trash Yamamuraslop with Souls games please
>>716215914
The specific moment I knew it would be shit

>>716222242
If you think it's all about the walking animations, you're a 5 on the apple imagination scale.
There's no other way.
>>716222486
>>716222393
The only game that actually felt unplayable to me was the Gungriffon series and it's laughably retarded control schemes. Gungriffon Blaze had okay controls, but they swapped the sticks and you can't change them. I'm not even going to begin with the Saturn games.

>>716222326
>buy
huh?

>>716220406
You're a dumb nigger.

>>716222594
Bruh really?

>>716214469
Basically what this anon is saying. The souls franchise has completely eclipsed AC as a whole so why not cater to the lowest common denominator? AC fans are going to defend it no matter what since they haven't had a game in over a decade. You would do the same if you were in their position.

>>716222497
>Don't compare this trash Yamamuraslop with Souls games please
By the way, Yamamura and Miyazaki weren't even in the AC6 project before Bandai forced From to change directors. Before that, it was the AC5/ACVD's director that was in charge, Naoyuki Takahashi. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2280826/
Unused beta tutorial footage that was found on the PS4 disc actually showed turning speed and walljumps, alongside unused weapon arms.

When Yamamura took over, that's when Bandai poured everything into the marketing budget. From UK bus ads, to trailers before a movie, down to even putting AC6 on fucking weed packets.

>>716213547 (OP)
what happened in AC5?

>>716222825
Wallkick.

>>716222825
They're still thinking about whether they're going to claim that was a good traditional game or nu souls sloppa. Maybe when 7 comes out they'll make up their minds.

>>716222681
AC6 got cracked day 1 and there's no reason to buy it because the online is dead because the pvp is dogshit because the game plays like shit KEKAROO

>>716222890
Nobody played AC5 or ACVD enough to care. Which is weird because AC5 is the best selling game in the series prior to AC6.

>>716222890
yeah except that will never happen because V or VD doesn't have hard lock on and estus flasks, instead it's got a working turn rate

I dont care for any of this shit
give me new virtual on or steel battalion
every boomers already got their HOSAS set up

>>716222973
If it has dual sticks it's casualized rollsouls.

>>716222994
Is there a single young guy in that entire .webm?
From what I've seen in the SBLoC community, it's a bunch of old dudes still playing the game through Insignia.

>>716223023
>moves goalpost
seethe

>>716223023
fuck you dual sticks are great

>>716222746
What a shame that they replaced him with this hack instead

>>716223054
ACV is a casual game intended for the cod market, which is why it sold so well. If it was a classic tank controls game they would've avoided it.

>>716223107
They did it on purpose because the shareholders got scared that AC6 would be too hard for casuals. When it's a moot point because casuals didn't stick around anyways when they came in expecting an actually difficult game because of AC veterans constantly talking shit.

>>716223172
AC6 is closer to the cod market sales wise

>>716213547 (OP)
>wow they almost tried to make it a bit reali- *spams 180 anime retard dashes*
this has truly always been a 5/10 game series

>>716223172
But it quite literally is a "tank controls" game.
Your AC moves locked to the camera's facing direction as if you were WASD'ing in a first-person game.

>>716223236
Following in the trend of V which proved the market was there?
>>716223284
Anon that is not what tank controls means.

>>716223378
That's what you kept fucking implying.

>>716222305
Tank controls doesn't mean "clunky". Some games with tank controls can be described as clunky, but AC has never been one of them, it has always been fast paced and fluid. You were just bad at them, and you're having the same reaction that zoomers always have to non-standard controls.
The video linked here >>716220428 is 1st generation, a PS1 game with tank controls and without any analog support, but you'd have to be blind, deaf and dumb to describe that gameplay as clunky or slow or anything of the sort, and that's not even a lightweight build.

>>716223172
>ACV is a casual game intended for the cod market
you did not play the game

Why do you retards call camera coupled with player model "tank controls"

>>716223543
It's clunkier than the cutscenes, that's clunky. It's not accurate gameplay to their own power fantasy. You literally can't control the mechs like they advertise them as.

You can keep crying that I'm a zoomer and I can't appreciate your slow gay systems or you can learn to deal with the improvements that have been sorely needed, and again, have become standard in the franchise for over 20 years now lol

>>716222825
It's le rollslop
https://youtu.be/_D8gJVRw_Bs?si=XZHNj4Fck31AE04L

This is the thread? alright. I think last raven is a mediocre game. The mission structure is great, but half the missions are just short and dull. Almost all fights against other acs fall into 2 categories of "super fast dps monster" or "impossible to die to, who the fuck designed this piece of shit". It has the least amount of variety. The arena is also piss baby easy until the #1 opponent. This is also the only AC game where I could feel how shit the balancing is because of the weird difficulty spikes between missions. And god I wish the part destruction was an actual thing and not something you might see once every 200 hours.
So why is this game touted as the best? Is it just pvp fags? Is it dual stick controls? the difficulty? has the most parts? Is it because its the last game featuring ravens? I genuinely want to know why people like this game over the other games that came before it.

>>716219175
>>716219476
>>716219572
WTF is timescamming? Google turns up nothing.

>>716223501
>>716223570
It's so funny that the AC6 whiners always start running defense for V. Oh no, were those casual changes for the larger audience ones that you liked? You wanted the casualization porridge just right and now it's a little too hot for you? Poor baby, they ruined it for you!

Look at how they've raped my boy

>>716222825
Kinoa.

>>716223919
Playing passively to run down the clock as much as possible, in order to win the match through time-out when you have the health advantage.
This is typically seen as a really toxic strategy, because it's bad sportmanship, almost like saying "yeah I literally don't want to fight you but I still want to win" to their face.
>>716223936
>food analogy

>>716223936
you're trying so hard to turn this thread into an ACV hate thread to deflect from the sloppification of 6 kek

>>716222562
>apple imagination scale
That scale has nothing to do with 'imagination,' are you retarded?

>>716223680
Because /v/ is filled with low IQ brown people now that don't know what "tank controls" really mean.

It's akin to seeing homosexual journalists using "hack and slash" to describe action games.

>>716224102
>reddit filename
>ended up being completely wrong
sasuga secondaries

>>716224169
>when the speed difference between heavies and lightweights is a mere 50km/h
>when the 'long range' is considered from 260m and beyond
Uhuh?

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
Christ, jap mech games are fucking gay. They just suck all the appeal out of it, and make it look like a cartoon for little kids.

>>716223827
I think a lot of people started with that "3.5" generation (possibly because it came with analog controls for the first time?), and Last Raven was a big improvement on Nexus.
I personally fully agree with you though. I preferred gen 1 and 2 to anything in gen 3/3.5. My favourite AC game of all is Another Age, but that's admittedly a weird pick few people agree with me on.

>>716224102
>will be more like AC3
you will never see your mech look at you in the eye while playing AC3

>>716224268
Western mech games have been dead since the late 2000s.

>>716224102
Brown person detected.

>>716224114
You mean Super Smash Bros. isn't a fighting game beat-em-up?

>>716224345

>>716224268
>when the mechs appeal isn't being a shit tank

>>716224169
Alot of the weird copes from pre release are really funny to look back on

>>716213547 (OP)
SOUL

>>716213585
SOULLESS

>>716224456
I didn't engage with AC6 much at all beyond just getting the 100% achievement.
All of my fun actually came from shitposting in threads and looking at cute Allmind media.
God, I want to fuck this retarded OL.

>>716221368
Why did suddenly inserting control rods cause the reactor to peak instead of slowing down?

Look, I like the franchise, but you guys gotta come to terms with the fact that the franchise never had more technical and strategic depth than stuff like, say
GUNDAM vs. GUNDAM NEXT EXTREME PLUS ver. KA
or Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 Vegeta

That is to say, to bemoan the dumbing-down of the franchise is to bemoan the dumbing down of a franchise that was already fucking dumb to begin with.
We will never have the tactical or strategic depth of a combat flight simulator,
nor will we ever compete with the technical skill ceiling (and tactical and strategic depth) of fighting games.
Let's just enjoy our mecha-on-mecha ADHD action and be done with it.

>>716224456
i still remember people blatantly lying about the lock on being breakable by fast builds because muh eceleb insider said so kek

>>716224027
That's lame and boring. I hate when I see that happen in the last minute of a sports game, and I'm not even a sports fan.

>>716224552
No.

>>716224268
This. Fuck this gay weebshit LMAO!

>>716224541
Because of the graphite tips. It was to improve efficiency at the bottom of the core, but it came with the side effect that they briefly increased the reactor's power output as they were lowered down before it stabilized when fully lowered.
That brief power spike was enough to cause a runaway reaction.

>>716224552
4a have insane technical depth and makes 6 or any of the games you've mentioned look so fucking braindead
retards like you have never played 4a

>>716224531
>I didn't engage with AC6 much at all beyond just getting the 100% achievement.
You S ranked every mission of a game you cry about about three years later?
Anon I think you were molested.
>>716224552
tbf this is true, AC is a casual babby series compared to VS.

>>716224279
I had some gripes with AA, but i can still understand why people might like it. LR just has so many fans vehemently saying its the best of the old gen, nay the best of them all. Maybe it really is just a matter of taste or like you said everyone started with gen 3.5

>>716224615
>I hate when I see that happen in the last minute of a sports game, and I'm not even a sports fan.
It was the finals match of the tournament, and the losers bracket guy in the missile boat did it 4 times in a row to win the 640$ 1st place cash prize.
Do note that it was a build-locked (whatever you entered with, you stayed with it until the very end) tournament, and the entire thing took 9 fucking hours to complete.

He did that passive shit for 9 fucking hours for barely even a month's work worth of money.

>>716224754
>You S ranked every mission of a game you cry about about three years later?
I'm not sure what you mean by cry. I'm just posting dumb shit.

>>716224552
>>716224754
>Gundam Versus is hard!

>>716224794
You land one hit and then run away the rest of the match?
There must be something that can be done against that, be it a rules change or complete social ostracization of the offenders.

>>716223827
It's the vibe, LR has a sick soundtrack and a really grim tone, it's difficulty also gives it a pretty cultish repudiation. I would argue that most people who tout it's brilliance haven't even played it and are just going with the flow

>>716224851
>pssh yeah I didn't really care about it much, if anything I had more fun posting about how I didn't like it!
>after I tediously achieved the highest rank possible in every mission, of course
Raped!
>>716224913
Yeah it's way cooler and more technical than all AC games combined and everyone loves that webm because it's cool.

the guy defending 6 went from 4 was also bad to 5 was also bad then now to all ac games were actually bad
really makes you think huh

>>716223215
Yamamura is just a shit director and the B team simply sucks.
Attacks and vision tracks perfectly 360 degrees simply because they don't value such aspects of Armored Core as moving to facilitate target acquisition and keeping optimal range for your FCS. Instead, they made stagger and armor and AC6 is entirely centered around those

>>716224559
What's worse is animals posting AC4 webms showing how the lock-on used to slightly track. Trying to excuse the Gundam VS hard lock in 6 with that footage kek

>>716224950
>There must be something that can be done against that, be it a rules change or complete social ostracization of the offenders.
The wheelchair guy had manual aim plasma cannons, and he was a god at aiming them. Didn't do much of anything because all the missile boater did was overboost cancel (spamming A and D while in overboost to move more efficiently and faster) away at even the slightest bit of HP advantage.
To the point where even the plasma cannons couldn't reach him. It was disgusting.
>>716224979
I put 6000 hours in ACVD alone because I liked it. I didn't like AC6.
>way cooler and more technical
All he did was Shooting Burst and started to spam Heavyarms' flip, occasionally firing with AB or A.

>>716225137
The funniest thing is when dataminers found out that the hard-lock break angle was set to 9999.

Why do games like this attract some of the most obnoxious people you'll ever meet in your life?

>>716225087
Pretty standard stuff for when a legacy series gets a reboot

>>716224559
You had people acting like stuff like the soft lock on wasn't a deliberate design decision

>>716224913
It's not that Gundam Vs. is hard.
It's that the AC franchise has always had a low skill floor and skill ceiling,
and a lack of technical, tactical, and strategic depth, similar to that of the Gundam Vs. franchise,
and that we can't rightly say otherwise in the face of game genres that can actually clearly display technical, tactical, and strategic depth (combat flight sims and fighting games).
From a position of love, I'm saying that we shouldn't delude ourselves into thinking that the AC franchise, from 1997 until 2023, has been a mountain of gameplay depth, when it's always been a mole hill.

>>716224979
Anon...
It's not very hard to get S-rank in every mission.
https://thefifthmatt.com/ac6-rank-calculator

>>716225339
>low skill floor AND skill ceiling
You've never played V or Verdict Day, it seems.

>>716224913
What a fucking CHAD

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
who the fuck cares? nobody even notices this shit while playing

>>716225320
It's mecha, magnet for autists.

>>716224552
>GVS is harder to play!
>>716225339
>GVS isn't hard, actually

>>716224674
god i love turn a and votoms so much

>>716225339
You never participated in SL tournaments. You're a secondary dog and you should keep your head down.

>>716215546
Also I have multiple personality disorder btw if that's okay

>>716225532
It's not exclusive to mecha though. Pretty much every action focused game that isn't completely brain dead has these people

>>716225320

>>716225356
can confirm it isn't very hard
all it takes is to have the right build for the mission

>>716225581
Ninja Gaiden has like 1 autist that obsesses about OG2

>>716225356
I'm not saying it's hard, I'm saying it's weird to play coolly detached and ironic while also saying you spent more time and effort on it than any of the casuals would have.
>>716225217
>I put 6000 hours in ACVD alone because I liked it. I didn't like AC6.
I spent ten years stuffing things down my penis and when I fucked a pussy I cried and vomited. Feel owned yet?

>>716224697
Ah, the genius of Soviet engineering.

So the anti-AC autist is actually just a EXVS fan? I wonder what rank he is.

>>716225662
The entire NG community has been anti sigma 2 for a decade, keep up

>>716225320
The secondaries will always feel like unwelcome aliens. Because they are. And to cope with their impostor syndrome they'll do anything to shit up the place to their level - including trying to demolish the perception of the things that came before them. Happened to many nerdy franchises.

>>716225714
...What?

>>716225774
Not to the same degree as one guy posting the same 12 WEBMs of Itagaki with sunglasses on.

>>716213585
So NOW you want a third-person action game with gameplay that's unresponsive and has a massive delay?

>>716225785
I don't think there's anything worse for a game community than for new "fans" to come in.

>>716225320
Good game attracts dedicated hater.
It's just that one guy.

>>716225917
>gameplay that's unresponsive and has a massive delay
nta and i love all the ac games for different reasons
that "unresponsiveness" or clunkiness (ohhh the clunkiness) that you feel is just a barrier on the way to becoming a good pilot, once you know how to maneuver around those you feel a sense of accomplishment
same thing that happened when i first played resident evil on the psx, games back then and i'd even say 14+ years ago added weight to their controls for a reason, it wasn't "clunky" or "unresponsive" on purpose most of the time
you're piloting a fucking giant mech, should it go as fast as you think it should or should it feel like you actually have to learn to pilot it?
ac6 is one of my favorite games of all time but for different reasons

>>716225917
AC is responsive and fast when you git gud. That was the point. When you become a good pilot your mecha flies gracefully. When you're just learning the controls you're a lumbering retard.

>>716225217
>hit other mech for 1HP damage
>spend the next 5 minutes boosting away running out the clock
That the crowd didn't beat him to death on the spot is an indictment of our hobby and our society.

>>716226121
It was an online event. If it was offline, I guarantee you that it'd first be the event reps telling him to stop fucking doing it, followed soon after by the crowd all collectively boo'ing him.
Not the first time a tournament for a Bandai game went to shit, either. And it wasn't the last.

>>716226114
I'll never forget what Morrowind told me when I hit Level 4.
>It's all suddenly obvious to you. You just have to concentrate. All the energy and time you've wasted -- it's a sin. But without the experience you've gained, taking risks, taking responsibility for failure, how could you have understood?
Because it made me realize just how good it felt to actually learn and get good at something.

>>716226114
>gracefully
Half the pvp meta is just trying to get behind each other in a game where the mechs are supposed to be able to spin on a dime. Ironically, like a dark souls backstab.
If you can't ever move like the cutscenes, the control system is a failure. This is why the next game needs combat pirouettes.
>>716226274
Maybe morrowind should've applied that philosophy and been a game with combat that isn't painful.

>>716224954
I wonder if its literally that meme of "thinking about game vs playing game"

>>716226121
As much as it is a dick move, it's best to hate the game, not the player. If they made a time-out with 1 hp adantage a victory condition, no shit players are going to go for it. A time out should just start gradually shrinking the map, or start some other kind of mechanic to force a conflict.

>>716226509
>Maybe morrowind should've applied that philosophy and been a game with combat that isn't painful
I didn't really mind it because I naturally thought that having a higher number in a weapon skill meant that I'd do better with it. People complained because they kept trying to use daggers when their Short Blade was level 5.

>>716214808
ACV/VD is more like this than any other AC

>>716225618
Is there a good list somewhere of best builds for each mission?

lost planet jad the one and only good mecha mechanics

>>716226693
that's because they both use the Dandelion2 engine and have a lot of the same design aspects, especially in their online multiplayer modes
hell, some of the menus are downright the same, just with a different coat of paint.

>>716226210
See, that's why it's important to have that in-person connection. So you can murder them when they deserve it.

Remember when shills were claiming target assist would be useless and the game had manual aiming?
Good times

>>716226806
This but only 2, the better lost planet game.

>>716226572
That's not a bad idea, actually, and I'm not even a battle royale type of guy.

>>716226884

>>716226954
>>716226572
pretty much every modern fighting game penalizes players for being too passive
>literally losing your super meter in Guilty Gear and being more susceptible to stuns
>or chip damage in basically every other fighting game in order to reward aggressive players even when their attacks are blocked
sadly it kinda turns games into unga-bunga shitfests, but it's better than being bored because the other guy literally doesn't want to fight you

>>716213585
They decided they wanted to make the game fun to play and sell more than 100k copies

>>716227204
And how does removing the gimmick of a gimmick based game accomplish that?

>>716227204
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>716213547 (OP)
>mech has to turn its entire body to aim
>doesn't ever move its arms or swivel at the waist like mechs do in shows
Armored Cores being glorified tanks was ok in the PS1/PS2 era but AC4 and For Answer had no excuse for this shit.

>>716223742
>The game doesn't move like the cutscenes
You're moving the goalposts all the way into the swimming pool with that one. Is anon arguing with pirate software? Just admit you're wrong.

Replaying the old games is making me realize just how much they experimented with the formula in the old gens, and how much most of it fucking sucked. Like gen 1 is early days, soulful, you can forgive a lot of basic errors because it's still one of the best action games on the PS1. Even if floating cubes give me conniptions now.

But then you jump to gen 2 and 3 and they're constantly putting in new, unpopular mechanics and then removing them again because no one liked them. Heat is just awful and it's in half the games to varying levels of severity. They switched to dual stick and just fucking swap back again, why? Almost every gen 2 or 3 game has crippling balance problems, terrible missions, or awful gimmick mechanics and you get to pick at least 2 out of 3 of these to apply.

Honestly I'm coming back out of this with love for 1, 4, and 6, and the rest is just "well I guess there's some good parts?".

Scan Mode is not a mistake.

>>716213547 (OP)
that's a plane
>>716213585
that's a mech
>>716218868
funny because 4 has parts to make a strike freedom lookalike and was inspired by series like SEED

>>716227743
I love these stupid edits of just putting mechs in WW1/WW2 images.

>>716227705
That was always my primary concern and complaint about the series. No game should have cooler cutscenes than gameplay. That's part of why the series has always felt a bit shit to play. "Goalposts" is not a cheat code for winning arguments.

>>716215289
The original Gundam could literally turn on a dime and do twists and bends to aim over and under its shoulder. Go watch Amuro's kill counting moment against the rick doms or the elmeth fight.

>>716225618
>the right build for the mission
>light/boost spam build with high stagger primaries + heavy hitting melee
>save for that one mission where you have to make a missile boat

>>716227824
Amen.

>>716227990
if that's what worked for you, good

>>716227818
this is cope

>>716227596
cute chart
outsold the rest of the entire series combined btw

>>716227818
>inspired by series like SEED
source?

>>716228049
well it did
still makes me wonder why every streamer at the time was using mostly heavy ACs with twin machineguns

>>716228092
Dark Souls 1 outsold the entirety of the AC series.

>>716228176
because they wanted to and they thought it was fun?
damn bro, not everyone wants to remove the fun out of a game like you do

>>716228092
really shows how much of a mainstream goyslop 6 is

>>716227965
People forget that they're called mobile SUITS for a reason, they're deliberately animated like people

>>716220406
>Mecha has never been about that

Just beat AC1 for the first time. There are like 20 of these games, which ones are worth playing after it?

>>716224954
It's a great game but the low budget is obvious. The map design on most of the missions is abysmal, just some linear hallway or big rectangle you fight an AC in. "Real" AC in that sense ended with SL.
However, LR has tons of parts and just had a smooth feel to it.

>>716228512
play them in release order, really
skip Ninebreaker and Formula Front unless you want to play a glorified tutorial and F1-style arena game.

>>716214574
5 is the worst AC. I played 4/FA a lot more. VD is fair that game is neck and neck with SL as my favorite Armored Core

>oh cool an ac thread
>it's a shit flinging rage bait thread

>>716228614
That's how it'll always be.

>>716228614
That's just how it is with games released post 2016. Had to watch several game series' turn to shit anytime they get mentioned on 4chan once they got a sequel or remake anytime after 2016

>>716228771
The absolute state of Devil May Cry and Dragon's Dogma threads.

>>716228697
He said this

>>716228875
he really did

>>716228839
Monster Hunter hurts the most. old /v/ MH threads were good times.

>>716227884
You were saying it's clunky. It has nothing to do with the point you're making in this post. That is moving the goalposts, you're abandoning the argument you were making to begin with. Something you can't do in game happening in a cutscenes is almost a staple of video games on the level of the boss becoming playable but not having his super moves from the boss fight.
You're a retarded, dishonest faggot.

>>716228771
The removal of the IP counter was an indication that 4chan is not intended for anything but ragebait anymore. And then it got even worse!

>>716227743
i do mean this from the bottom of my heart, please tell me youre baiting

>>716229078
Something something Bladerunner quote.

>>716228839
Could be worse. the ninja gaiden 4 threads are going to be wild thats for sure

>>716228234
where's the fun in moving at a snail's pace?
I really tried to like them, Balam's heavy parts in particular look really good but Im not a fan of being a sitting duck

>>716229252
I don't know of any game that I can discuss on this board that either won't be a Page 10 thread or filled with endless shitposting.
I don't want to have to make bait OPs just to spark some discussion that won't even reach 100 replies before the thread archives. It's saddening.

>>716229380
it's not for you and because of that, it's fun, the fact that you have options and you pick your favorite one, is a good thing and surely you realize it

>>716227596
Let's see how your game sold

>>716224027
> Playing passively to run down the clock as much as possible, in order to win the match through time-out ...
an olympic wrestler got disqualified for that gay shit

>>716229468
>It's not for you
Then what about these?

>>716229252
NG threads are that bad already. It's like what threads were like on /acg/ after that showcase where the infamous turning webm is from. The only reason AC threads look a bit different than action game threads is because the outnumbering of oldfags by newfags that only played the newest game is much more pronounced.

>>716221174
the animation isnt really the problem, its the idea that you are on a turntable

>>716229112
>You were saying it's clunky
Yup.
>It has nothing to do with the point you're making in this post
It's clunky because the controls suck and you the game doesn't play like the cutscenes.
>Something you can't do in game happening in a cutscenes is almost a staple of video games
Yeah shit ones lol

>>716229536
not every game has to appeal to you

>>716229510
>an olympic wrestler got disqualified for that gay shit
i mean yeah, I literally did say it was bad sportmanship because it's silently telling your opponent that you want to win without doing anything to actually earn it
everyone, in just about every competitive community, universally despises it because it's an extremely boring and bitchy thing to do. chess has shotclocks for a reason

>>716229592
Answer the question.
What about the 15 games that came before?

>>716229564
Name 10 action games where the gameplay looks like the cutscenes

>>716219175
kek wtf.

>>716229505

>>716229659
you're kinda braindead lil bro, keep that shit hidden, stick to youtube comments

>>716229131
Gen 1 is fun and novel and it's missteps forgivable. Gen 2 and 3 are them iterating on that poorly. Later gens started reinventing the series wholesale and it's what finally got results. The PS2 games were floundering with their mechanics even they clearly didn't want to keep using but also not different enough for the games to be properly distinct from each other.
I am not baiting.

>>716229732
Answer the question.

>>716229540
oh i think its going to get so much worse. when the platinum logo came up on the first trailer, man did shit hit the fan for a bit.

>>716229564
What does "play like the cutscenes" even mean? You don't play cutscenes, you watch them. Should games "play" like a movie? I know a guy called Druckman who has a series that's more to your taste.

>>716216068
DxM was somewhat like this but missions were too fast. Still love the game.

>>716229826
i'll admit I actually kinda feel bad for dogging on NG3 so hard but at least it can still count as an NG game
the moment I saw the enemies just looking at the new character as he beat the shit out of someone, I knew it was fucking over

>>716229781
what question lil braindead bro lil goo goo retard

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
Fromsoft believed, likely rightfully so, that their modern audience wouldn't be able to handle anything resembling the original control scheme
even with the babby controls people were still bitching about certain encounters being too hard to maneuver around
it also made it easier to develop by just using their recent souls games as a foundation and slathering a mecha skin on it
maybe the next game will give them the confidence to flex their design muscles a little more now that they've proven to the suits that there's interest in the IP but I'm not holding my breath with how safe Fromsoft has been playing things lately
at least the AC situation isn't as hopeless as it is for Kings Field/Shadow Tower fans

>>716216225
It's already been revealed that the bigger mechs are in

>>716229891
I coped that it must just be easy mode, but that clip showing a six second air combo proves that the game is doomed. I just hope it's a somewhat decent mgr sequel

People who started with the newest game and then played the old ones are not the people whose opinions matter.

>>716229468
>the fact that you have options and you pick your favorite one, is a good thing and surely you realize it
yes I get that but I assumed you were into heavies and maybe could make me understand what's so great about them
>>716229659
slightly diferent games gameplay-wise and the ones without twin-sick support are unplayable

>>716229953
>Kings Field/Shadow Tower
thanks, im good. rather pleasant with no new games coming out. and the games are far too old for anyone to bother shitposting about them

>>716230042
why would i have to change your mind about heavies? you stick to what you like and that's it you don't need to like everything all the time

>>716229963
not what I meant by that, I know the mechs are a part of the game, I just don't want the powersuit shit to be a forced requirement
>>716230002
even the enemies in MGR actually bothered to attack you in Revengeance and Very Hard in order to stop you from just picking them off one-by-one

>>716226918
>the game had manual aiming
have you tried holding on lock button?

>>716229687
Go do your own homework.
>>716229861
If the mechs are fast, spin around, and do cool movements in the cutscenes and then you play the game and suddenly there's a bunch of hard restrictions on how you move that make it impossible to replicate that, what's the point?

Instead the cutscenes should show them constantly turning to face each other across a room while bouncing around and bunnyhopping, if they wanted to sell that as the intention of their game.

>>716229914
Alright, you appear to be underage, so I'll simplify my question.
If Armored Core 6 is, quoting you, "not made for me" then why are the 15 Armored Core games in the same series, which came before Armored Core 6, made for me?

>>716230162
>Go do your own homework.
Answer his question.

>>716224674
tx55 and scopedog are the fucking best mech designs ever

>>716230040
What did anon mean by this?

>>716229891
>i'll admit I actually kinda feel bad for dogging on NG3 so hard but at least it can still count as an NG game
You can see the "sigh, the last dogshit game that fucked up the series was actually the LAST ONE WITH SOUL!" cycle in action, happening in real time.

>>716230279
How you felt typing that

>>716214974
Mechs are literally walking tanks / Mobile SAM and artillery platforms though. The best lore starts with them being fucking farm equipment before war machines (just like fucking tanks.) At least the superior western Mecha and not the Gook Super Robot shit (I have a soft spot for Gundam, sue me.)

>>716230002
To be fair, I bet if you could do a 6 second air combo in NG2, you could get away with it in any fight that didn't have some kind of ranged user. We did have that one clip of some kind of trial mission of Ryu getting dogpiled by 4 guys.
The aspect of NG4 that makes it look like baby food is that yo can dash around the arena and have insane AoE moves that make positioning trivial.

>>716230404
Are you admitting it's too hard to answer a question?

>>716230162
Bnnuy hopping looks better than the cutscenes.

>>716230194
have you considered that maybe you're retarded? that maybe you don't like the game for external reasons?
lil bro is so dumb i swear

>>716230426
>Mechs are literally walking tanks / Mobile SAM and artillery platforms though
They fly around on rocket packs and swordfight in battletech. The giant samurai mechs with katanas are literally in the game now, you can't pretend to still be ignorant of this.

You are the typical "erm western robots are tough cool guys, anime is silly dragon balls!" fanboy that everyone laughs now at for liking a series based on traced anime.

>>716230324
as much as you're right, I still will never consider DmC Devil May Cry a real game

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
literally doesn't actually matter

>>716230040
>"You newfags wouldn't last 10 seconds playing the old AC games!"
>lot of newfags tried the old games after finishing 6 and beat them all 100%
>"People who started with the newest game and then played the old ones are not the people whose opinions matter."
And thus how OP made the thread.

>>716230079
the controls alone are enough to filter broccoliheads
maps being huge and winding that you can easily get lost in with almost no direction or indication of where you should go next or what that lever you pulled did would absolutely assrape them out of being able to get past the first dozen rooms
its a shame most of the indie games trying to ape its style are either too short or filled with tranny shit

>>716230426
I love MW aesthetics but they haven't shit out a good game in a while. Or maybe the "good with mods" thing is true but I can't be arsed.

>>716220290
Bro sold his missiles to afford better legs lmao

>>716230594
Why are you answering a question with a question?
Are you retarded?

>>716230594
>>716230404
>>716229914
>>716229732
>unironically using zoomer language
busted ahh fr, don't mge me

>>716230705
to put it simply, you don't like the game because new thing = bad
and you're shit at all of them too
lil bro thinks he's different for liking the older ones

>>716230690
MW5 is better with mods but it's a game about maximising payout/minimizing losses with retarded AI teammates you can't really control.

You will watch your ally walk up to another mech and get punched until he detonates and cost you six million in repairs. You kind of can't really stop them from doing that sometimes, even with mods.

>>716230890
I can justify myself for it.
The new one simply wasn't better than the older ones.

>>716230475
The game needs a demo badly to sort all this out

>warn people how there will be lock on
>get called shitposter

>>716230653
STA is garbage and shadow tower streamlined and simplified into a very casual and basic game
Kys

>>716231064
Still miles more complex of such-beloved "RPG" Skyrim.

>>716231015
6 was better and will have more long-lasting additions to the series than all the PS2 games with mechanics that didn't even make it through their own expansions.

>>716215594
whats the funniest build? i kept using machinegun for the overheat

>>716230648
Nice strawman

>>716231174
That's an incredible post, Anon.
If you tried hard enough, maybe you wouldn't have outed yourself as a 6only baby.

>>716213547 (OP)
>giant robot is faster than a human being
What's the point then? You're playing a superhero game, not a mech game.

>>716213585
Actually feels like an actual Mech anime particularly Gundam.

4A is a fun game to feel overpowered zipping around at Mach 10 but it's lousy as a mech simulator everything feels floaty. Guns have 0 weight to them and you might as well be in outer space for how little gravity is weighing you down.

t. Recreated 100 Mobile suits between both games. Also while 6 is better, they're both way better than 5.

>>716231660
>car is faster than a human being
What's the point then?

Do shills really have to uphold games long after they were released?

Seeing as it won't be long before the thread dies, post them Air conditioners, Ravens.

>>716219338
don't try to reason with westranny 'mechs' faggots over why a super-advanced sci-fi war tech should be a clunky slow chickenwalker forever

i dislike mechwarrior
i like armored core

>>716231624
I think you've never played an AC game at all, and also you're gay and your penis is inverted.

>>716231954

>>716231624
Wait a minute, this post>>716230648

>>716231174
>mechanics that didn't even make it through their own expansions.
for your own sake, I hope you're just an ESL because holy fuck

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
>kept saying the new game just didn't feel right, like it simply wasn't a good AC game.
>I and many others were right
Feels so fucking good to be vindicated.

>>716231869
probably something to do with propellant and having to either pack a tiny amount of it to fit into the form of what is considered an average AC or increasing it's size and weight drastically to achieve the level of movement and prolonged activity depicted in the video games

>>716232594
I didn't see you complaining about super saiyan boosting on AC4 though

>>716232542
This but MH World. Wilds was the natural course when you gut your game for newfags

>>716213547 (OP)
even 4 was too fast and weightless desu

>>716232929
All of them were. Tanklegs should've been the default movement speed. It's just silly that these giant robots can leap around like that.

>>716220090
>get to rank A
>3rd place kicks my ass so much I need to swap to a cheesey tank build and just out DPS him
>swap back to my normal arena ac (lightweight with machine gun) and first try 2nd place
>first place was an actual fair challenge that I won with a lucky melee strike and the double barrel
anyways fuck you 3rd place you bastard at least im a millionaire now

>>716232874
World was the beginning.
Rise was the apocalypse.
Wilds is the result.

>>716232995
>tank legs should've been the default movement speed
Please play the games first.

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
Armored Core 6 is not an Armored Core game, it's not a mech game. It's a Souls game.

>>716230042
>the ones without twin-sick support are unplayable
I pity you. That's journalist-tier levels of disability.

>>716233383
You posted the silliest webm I have ever seen of a mech floating about like casper the friendly ghost to own me for saying it should be slower, making me the victor.

>>716233805
That's a tank legged AC, you blind moron.

>>716232765
ive never played AC4 and im not the poster you think i am
MW has jump boosters but that comes at the cost of less weapons because weight is a huge factor in mech design and it is also limited by fuel and will run out mid mission if used too much
AC has no limit on boosting and flying which begs the question of what is being used as propellant if it has no limit and can be used indefinitely so long as the energy limiter isnt crossed

>>716233838
Looks like hover legs, cause it has big thrusters and is hovering. Are you sure you didn't just post the wrong gif?

>>716230162
>Instead the cutscenes should show them constantly turning to face each other across a room while bouncing around and bunnyhopping, if they wanted to sell that as the intention of their game.
Yeah technically they maybe should, but no-one in the entire world apart from you cares at all because the one non-in-engine cutscene at the start of a game is pretty much just for setting a tone/to use in ads. You might as well complain a movie doesn't like its poster.

>>716233938
Those are real tank legs. I'm just spamming the boost button in a way that perpetually keeps me off of the ground so I get the "in the air" speed boost. If it was hovers, I'd be doing that retarded "mid-air brake" and "landing lag" that they're infamous for.

>>716233859
Believe me, the tonnage in mechwarrior makes no sense either and the battlemechs also carry way, way more thrust juice than they should. They probably should barely be able to make one jump, maybe.
Turns out jetpacks in general just don't make much sense for big robotos.

>>716234032
>the one non-in-engine cutscene at the start of a game is pretty much just for setting a tone/to use in ads
Why don't they make the game like that too? Are they stupid?
I mean it's fine because they fixed it and made it right for later games, but still. It's weird it took them this long to figure it out.

>>716234069
>I'm just spamming the boost button in a way that perpetually keeps me off of the ground so I get the "in the air" speed boost
What is that, some kind of glitch that lets you fly about like you don't have a brick for a lower torso? That doesn't sound right. Did they manage to fix it later at least?

I enjoyed AC6 for what it is, but it's also undeniably a less fun game than the previous entries.

Funnily enough, the situation with AC6 is analogous to another AC acronym'd franchise; Ace Combat. Ace Combat has never been a "simulator" series and it never pretended to be one. But the earlier entries like AC3+AC04 still had gravity and inertia implemented into their flight models. So even though the game was unrealistic, it still made you feel like you were flying fighter jets. The basics of dogfighting like energy conservation and stall management were still things you had to consider while playing even if you had 200+ missiles. Then Ace Combat 5 comes out and streamlines the entire flight model so that you never lose speed, can turn on a dime, and don't have to worry about stalling out. The game is still fun, but it lost the "feel" of flying a real fighter jet and stopped being concerned about making vehicular combat game.

>>716234312
Because it would make for inferior gameplay. And no they didn't, they still haven't made the gameplay anything like the cutscenes, you'd probably have to make the game entirely quick-time event based, or at minimum have special "execution" cutscene kills if you wanted to do that. It would be completely shit.

>>716234312
No.
If you hit the boost button with tank legs, you just go upwards instead of sliding around with bipedals, reverse joints or quadrupedals, where with those you'd have to hit it twice in succession in order to start going upwards.
All I was doing is basically just hitting it at the right times and for long enough to keep me off of the floor, because moving in the air in oldgen AC caps you to 80% of your top booster speed. The tank legs I posted have the best top booster speed out of all tank legs (hence why it looks like a race car). It's an intended mechanic they didn't decide to bring back.

>>716234372
>'s also undeniably a less fun game than the previous entries
I can deny that really easily. Half the AC games suck ass.

>>716230426
The even better lore ends with them going back to being farm equipment, when the revolutionaries start bolting tractors, trucks, and old hotrods into war machines. Imagine an entire faction of Harold Cooplowski-class engineers, not only building mecha and ordinance, but also performing neurosurgery to install neural jacks. In shanty towns.

>>716234564
>Half the AC games suck ass.
Yet I've probably replayed my least favorite in the franchise (AC2+AA) far more than AC6. AC6 just has no replay value, it's another one-and-done fromsoft game like Elden Ring.

>>716234514
>they still haven't made the gameplay anything like the cutscenes
Looks about the same to me.
>you'd probably have to make the game entirely quick-time event based
Man you guys are dull. You always do this. It's always straight to QTEs. All I ask for is a spin around while shooting system, and you can't even comprehend it. Dull brained. Slow in the mind. Imagination that evaporated years ago.

>>716234548
>It's an intended mechanic they didn't decide to bring back
So they did fix it.

>>716234801
>All I ask for is a spin around while shooting system
Then you're in luck, they've had that since AC1.
AC2 if you want it to be extremely fast, with the quick boost turn part.
Enjoy.

>>716234773
>Yet I've probably replayed my least favorite in the franchise (AC2+AA) far more
Okay that just makes you sound stupid.
Maybe you should replay good games you like and not bad ones you don't like if you want people to take your opinions about replay value seriously.

>>716234372
>I enjoyed AC6 for what it is, but it's also undeniably a less fun game than the previous entries.
It's a different sort of fun. Obviously for a different sort of audience than what the previous games were designed for. The people generally bitching about 6 not being like older titles are those who obsessively play them on emulation or old hardware all the time to begin with, and, honestly, not the target audience specifically. To aim for that specific hyper niche crowd that hadn't seen new games in a literal decade would be suicide for an already niche title that had to follow up Elden Ring blowing the company's reputation to borderline household name extents.

>>716215075
I see him rollin.
I hate it.

>>716227824
Art by Ueda captures the feeling of it.

>>716234869
The next game right after Last Raven was Armored Core 4, and tanks were shit.

>>716213547 (OP)
6 sucks so fucking bad and only broccoli hair zoomers enjoy it.

>>716234942
No they didn't. I would have noticed when I played them. I think you're confusing cooly shooting while spinning with holding the shoot button while slowly turning around, and that makes you look really dumb.

>>716234949
I'm obviously talking about the entire franchise excluding AC6, you spaz.

>>716235157
Zoomers appreciate mechs more than millennials did. All the good mech series died while millennials were the main audience, and now they're suddenly doing well again.

>>716234564
t. 6 was my first AC game

>>716234372
I really don't know about that, even with all the good will in the world I don't really miss much from the previous games, having non dogshit melee alone is something I've been waiting since forever ago, nevermind guns that have an actual identity instead of being simple stat sticks.
I do miss internal weapons, shoulder parts and a couple of other things like ACV arenas and multiplayer in general, but I'll take that over a more balanced core game and some much needed revision of historical AC problems, not to mention AC6's campaign is up there with Silent Line and LR.

>>716235198
So?

>>716234740
> brigador FPS
hmmm.....

>>716235315
Why would you admit to that? You should at least pretend to start with an earlier game if you want your opinion has value in a thread like that.

>>716235413
You're not very smart

Top 10 mech games for a zoomerkek? I'm open to emulation.

>>716235492
terra nova strike force centauri - it's powered armor though

tips for a good control scheme for AC1?

>>716235350
Your brain is so aids-ridden that I don't know how to explain to you that a game being my "least favorite" in the franchise doesn't make it a bad game.

>>716235491
I'm smarter at having the right opinions than you.

>>716235654
Nah

>>716235614
rebind strafe to the d-pad, and camera controls to the bumpers.

>>716235492
Armored core, Front Mission, Heavy Gear.

>>716235704
yes sir

>>716235614
Either figure out what works comfortably for you to be able to aim and move, like binding the face buttons in an emulator to be able to pretend it's like an analog stick or shifting about how to use the d-pad and trigger/bumper buttons more efficiently, or just straight up get the True Analog Controls patches. If you try to stick with the series for the rest of the entries, the latter option makes it more in line with Nexus onwards, so that might be up your alley variably.

>>716235642
But those ones are bad games. AC2 sucked.

>>716235492
Go emulate all the old AC games in order. I did that a few years ago, they're all great and they all emulate perfectly until you get to ACV. That adds up to roughly ~10 games to go through already. Just skip formula front and ninebreaker.

>>716235614
>>716235739
alternatively, rebind strafe to the d-pad, all camera-related controls to the face buttons, and actions to the bumpers/triggers

>>716235804
I don't care about your opinion, nor did I ask about it. I'm talking about my opinion.

>>716235293
outside of AC6 for the first few months I don't see many zoomies talking about mechs

>>716235817
>>716235794
that's enough ideas
with the default scheme, I wasn't using boost to any good effect

>>716235492
Alright, here we go.
>Gungriffon series
>Dolls Nest
>Armored Core series (with analog patches for the oldgen games)
>Eureka Seven PS2
>Zeonic Front, Crossfire, Battlefield Record UC0081
>Front Mission (including Evolved)
>VOTOMS PS2
>Zone of the Enders
>some of the PS1 stuff like Krazy Ivan, Brahma Force, Omega Boost and Future Cop LAPD
>old PC mech games like Heavy Gear, Hawken, Mechwarrior 3 and 4, etc.
Ironically, the Wikipedia page for mech games has the vastest amount of mech games listed for you to go play and enjoy. Anything else is typically word-of-mouth indie stuff, like Hammer, HIGH-MACS Simulator, or MachineClad.

>>716235614
use a keyboard and if you dont mind inputting it everytime, use the fpp cheat though it's really not necessary since the psx AC games can be played mostly by ear

>>716235614
The suggestions given are good, definitely try both and see which feels better. Face buttons for camera and d-pad for forward/back and strafe L/R worked really well for me, I wouldn't recommend trying to use analogs jury rigged to digital inputs as some people suggest, that feels awful (though again, no harm in trying just to see for yourself).

>>716213547 (OP)
I like my mechas like I like my legs
Barely functioning and leaking fluid

>>716233859
Kill yourself shartwarriorfag

>>716236119
>>716236149
nah, keyboards and analog hacks I've seen about is going too far me, I'd prefer to handle things as the lord intended back when with the means provided
at some point it's just a matter of getting good and not a problem of controls

>>716235654
>right opinions
>so concerned with fitting in you’d lie about playing a game to impress /v/tards
My opinion is you’re pathetic

>>716236387
>I'd prefer to handle things as the lord intended back when with the means provided
I respect the hustle but there's a reason that even oldfags reccomend those analog patches to newcomers. After Nexus, that's all you're getting unless you're a masochist who genuinely likes the Type B controls (I know one guy who does and he's infamous for landing insane pilebunker hits)

>>716236152
this guy blue screens

>>716236039
If only the PS1 Votoms games had translations

>>716236039
>pic
God I fucking hate GBO2 with all my anger, hate, and sorrow.

>>716236675
at the very least the PS2 one doesn't really need it
but if anything, I'd rather be a greedy pig, I want translations for all the VOTOMS games

>>716236373
youd be nothing without your FCS aiming for you

>>716236474
I honestly think playing with analogs gives you a slight disadvantage in the classic AC games. You want to switch to opposite movement directions precisely, rapidly and instantly, digital inputs are best for that. I tried the analog hacks myself and hated them.

>>716236727
True

>>716236474
>even oldfags reccomend those analog patches
"oldfag" here, no I don't.

analog patches break the game balance because the FCS options are not balanced around dual analog controls. even when using the widest FCS parts, games like nexus and LR have smaller FCS viewports to compensate for dual stick controls

>>716236676
I have 2000 hours in GBO2 so far.
Love the damn game, personally, but I can see all of the flaws you mention, and a lot of what I want out of the game is actually QoL to fix a bunch of the problems it has
>get rid of basecamp and replace it with a single menu
>nerfing the absurd grinding for shit like EX hanger, enhancement, monthlies, dailies, etc.
>permanent start dash, 100% crate chance and triple tokens
>get rid of a lot of useless waiting and loading times
>make certain aspects of the game better, such as the gacha, the RT shop
>add an actual PvE mode intead of just swapping it out with recycled content every 4 months
>add the option to fight AI bots in custom lobbies in case there aren't enough people to fill it up
and many other QoL things that I'm honestly, this game is like a geriactric korean MMO without the absurd P2W of a korean MMO, since you can still be a shitter in a suit like Delta Anse or Wing Zero

Still no Code Fairy though, that got relegated to a DLC.
picrel is some cool cheater that was actually hosting boss lobbies where it was brawl match but he played a boss and everyone banded together to beat the shit out of him

>>716237053
NTA but they game will always be dogshit until they make NA/INT servers the P2P means you will always be fighting uphill against japs and chinks
t. GBO1 oldfag

>>716236907
at least AC2 up to AC3SL gave you the option to play on Hard mode, giving you lock-boxes that are similar to how Nexus and LR sized them
the PSP releases, because of how badly ported they are (i think they're straight up recreations because they all run at 30FPS and it's obvious what effect that has on the gameplay physics) actually have even tinier lockboxes because of their aspect ratios
>>716236814
you can use the dpad for that, or map the shoulder buttons for it, since all the patches do is give you movement on left stick and aiming on right stick, every other buton remains the same

>>716236676
GBO1 seemed cool because it was proper OYW UC role play jank, with distinct zeeks and feddies. The jank controls meshed perfectly with UC grunts.

GBO2 just made everyone mercenaries and mixed the suits, which was the biggest red flag.

Then they added fucking Freedom Gundam LMAO

>>716237271
I know.
I'm still gonna push through and learn the quirks of the P2P netcode and the lag, no matter how bullshit it can be. I love the damn gameplay, it just meshes with my ACVD brain so fucking well.
>>716237325
everyone who voted for AU suits thought they were gonna get Leos, Death Armies, Desperados, etc.
i laughed at every single one of them when the first suit was a protag suit from fucking SNEED of all things lmao
wing zero is extremely overpowered too, to the point of absurdity

>>716237453
>wing zero is extremely overpowered too, to the point of absurdity
picrel is a scoreboard from a clanmate, because this fucking thing will basically determine the future of 700 balance, depending on whether it gets nerfed or simply ignored
it makes pre-nerf Unicorn look like a fucking joke

>>716237453
>ACVD
When my fuel in GBO1 was used up I'd go play PVP in that, fun times. Went up against the /vg/ team once in a while.

>>716237679
I played ACVD all the way up to EoS.
I clocked around 6000 hours in that game alone. GBO2 scratches the same itch for me, especially after I really started to git gud.
ACVD was comfy as fuck though, but the only comfy time I have been having in GBO2 is by making my own clan and getting people together. I hate GBO2's fucking playerbase, man. I despise it with all of my soul.

To talk about how bad it is, I'm pretty sure I'm on multiple shitlists just because I've bit back at people who talked shit about me.

>>716229182
>tigrex without mustache???

>>716237325
So many people whined in GBO1 about zeeks being overpowered. But the truth was that Zeon players used teamwork. Feddies players all suffered Main Character syndrome and would fuck off leaving their back line dead from raids. Also the RPS system was a lot better then. No Heavy Attack, 3 suits with an ability and it was just EXAM and could only be used at low health not activated at will. Supports were scary as they could crack legs easily. My biggest complaints with 1 were the P2P and the fuel system, also it was a lot more P2W heavy

>>716213585
soulized

will they ever put ac4 on pc? will i ever play ac4??

>>716237949
I'm so sorry...

>>716238018
GBO1 was fucking terrible lmao
the RPS system was genuine cancer as there were paid parts that made it even more busted, and Supports were the de-facto kings to the point that when the GP02 released it was just lobbies of nothing but the MLRS until the end of time.
you are right about Zeeks using teamwork, because if there's one thing they could agree on, is that Zeon is cool and Sieg Zeon!
GBO1's netcode makes GBO2 look like Quake 3's dedicated servers.

and I'm not even gonna mention the absurd fucking grinding just to get fucking anything

>>716237887
>I played ACVD all the way up to EoS
Same, Said goodbye to Maggie (I had the voice DLC) and my UNAC. took my Phys blade weapon arm RJ build out for the last day it was up.
>I hate GBO2's fucking playerbase
I ended up on a JP blacklist for the console GBO2. PC playerbase has better aim but they are so scared to push up, so I ended up taking my Marasai and Desert Gelgoog and mopped up people enough to get to A but the chinese players kept getting pissed at me and would start hacking or my net would mysteriously cut out. That's when I had to walk away.

>>716237325
>GBO2 just made everyone mercenaries
I'm still mad about it being TEAM A and TEAM B.

>>716235154
Absolutely false, tanks are hard shit in AC4.

If the only thing you've played in these AC games is the single player, your opinion matters less when talking about build viability.

>>716238143
Dude just emulate it, it's free.

>>716214575
I don't think I'll ever call BotW 1 or 1.5 a good game. I think I'll stick with Zelda 2 and Zelda 2 fan remakes.

>>716230615
flaunting a sword != swordfighting
they could also punch before and I wouldnt call that boxing either. tbdesu if Mechwarrior's mechs moved and controlled a biiiiit more organically (and made that mod that makes you change engine and stuff part of the core game) it'd be selling like pancakes
>>716233702
>That's journalist-tier levels of disability
eat shit revisionist retard. I played 2A back in the day and felt so fucking scammed. the analogsticks were right there, what were they thinking?

>>716238497
for me it was my shotgun + burst battle rifle build with plasma rifle and rifle as backups, barely could fit missiles into it
>the chinese players would start hacking
I've honestly only encountered cheaters 2 times in total in rated matchmaking. One guy who was playing Ideon, and another who was just spamming the RF Gelgoog's heavy stagger rifle.
What this game demands is an extremely rock-solid connection. Luckily I've got fiber gigabit, so I'm good on that front. Doesn't stop chinks from limiting their upload speed on purpose and forfeit some matches so they can boost themselves to S flat or something. Very little have I've encountered someone properly cheating, it's all just chink and jap lagtypes. All that's really changed is just that I learned how to deal with them. Pure skill and proper internet will always dominate, even against laggers. Knew that from the CS1.6 days, cheaters would fucking rage when your ping was 14 and theirs was 60, so your headshots would always go through first before theirs did.

>>716238608
>If the only thing you've played in these AC games is the single player,
I couldn't find anyone that actually played tanks. It was all bipeds and reverse joints.

>>716236676
>gacha game
>no faction or uniformed teams just use whatever you want
>typical 5v5 or 6v6 game
>only peer-to-peer, no dedicated servers or anything
>gameplay oriented around staggering each other first then doing combos while abusing skills that negate or reduce staggers to get closer or away from enemies
>Fire Emblem RPS triangle advantage system
>copyright free music instead of actual proper music from the Gundam shows
>infested with chinks
>EAC on PC
>badly optimized
I have seen nothing but red flags and bad things about this game

>people that havent played a game and have no concept of its gamefeel talking about a game: the thread

>>716217428
>I will debunk it
>reinforces it
wtf are you doing

>>716213547 (OP)
>AC with Demons souls level design, Estus and cryptic NPC quests
>Even then it maintains tank turning
This should tell you how necessary turning is for AC to feel right

>>716238346
>GBO1 was fucking terrible lmao
Nah it was fun, rolling an all Zaku 1 or Acguy team with complete strangers and spooking feds with shoulder tackle gangbangs or watching the enemy try to find us as we hid was 10/10. GBO2 lobbies will be held hostage after waiting 20 minutes because on guy doesn't like your choice of suit. I'll still take support being busted because at least they had to shoot versus GBO2 raids being handheld by the devs so hard they ended up buffing the Jesta Shezarr a suit where I ended up 1 shotting a support who was prone with just one HA pre-buff, because red players can only w/m1
>GBO1's netcode makes GBO2 look like Quake 3's dedicated servers
You could set your latency bar for matches.

>>716224027
When that guy said players will optimize the fun out of a game, he probably didn't even think about what tournament players are willing to do.

>>716214107
Holy shit the bogs were human plus subjects all along

>>716229078
>>716229182
We didn't bully capcom and the people who played Monster Hunter World hard enough.
Wilds is so fucking easy it's insane.

>>716239212
>anime girl bodies
Cringe. I'd play the game if the "" mechs"" didn't look completely retarded.

>>716239002
Jist because they may noy have been common doesnt mean they arent more than a viable option

>>716236039
>Dolls Nest
My nigga.

>>716239345
>rolling an all Zaku 1 or Acguy team
You can do that in GBO2, and to better effect.
>GBO2 lobbies will be held hostage
Just fucking block that guy, leave and requeue. Next time you see him, just requeue. Not a lot of people really do this anymore because it's just faster to do the match, lose, and move on.
>I'll still take support being busted
They are in 650 cost, every other cost is utterly dominated by generals to the point that raids don't really get much of a mention unless they're just as busted themselves. Like I said, Wing Zero took over 700 cost so badly that a lot of raids just straight up don't exist anymore because of how hard it rapes them.
>Jesta Shezzarr Team A
one of the worst 650 native raids nowadays, they buffed it because shitters were bad with it, the unicorn's stats actually went up after it was nerfed purely because shitters stopped playing it
>you could set your latency bar for matches
i didn't know that, probably because it was all in japanese lol

>>716236676
>series with fuck you money and perfect for video games fumbles at making good video games

>>716238913
Off the top of my head I had a Gouf Flight type with unlimited boost missiles and had the damage value set to 9999999 because he would just one shot all of our team. Even the enemy team stopped fighting us to shoot at him.
Had a Pixy with the same unlimited boost who looked like he came straight outta souls game with all the evading he was doing
Had one of the boss Mobile armor players in a versus (this was fun though and he died normally without any cheating tools when he ganged up on him)
Had a Pale Rider with unlimited EXAM
Had a Guntank with no reload
but to be fair I quit around the time Unicorn released so they were doing ban waves more and more by then.

>>716215797
There will never be another Elden Ring

>Dolls' Nest getting mentioned
I will never forget how retarded a whole colony and its nymphs can get
>losing against bioweapons
>I know, just slap more armor, that'll work
>gets wiped out
Or
>I crippled our progenitor so hard that I did not think far enough of how long will dolls last
>I know, start a false religion and call it a day
the whole setting is giga retarded and it's amusing but also depressing due to how painfully incompetent they are, even Nehma has that autism too.

>>716239740
it was actually quite refreshing to see a mech game done up like Dolls Nest does it with the exploration and resource management.
while I'm not a fan of lolis (not enough to be a screeching retard, I just prefer hags), finding that robot body made me enjoy the game far more
it's a great game, honestly, but I wish the part balance was a little better alongside just having better controls and actual left/right hands instead of 2 weapons you switch between.
9/10.

>>716239621
>Doesnt know Mecha Musume
Zoom Zoom

>>716224913
god this is so fucking retarded

>>716239873
Pixy with dodge rolls was made real in one of the situation battles, it was actually enough to make it genuinely viable and scary to fight against.
Most cheaters using MAs don't actually enable anything else, they just want people to fight him.
>Pale Rider with unlimited EXAM
kinda funny to think about that, especially with how bad the sideeffects are once it ends

they did a giant ass banwave in august and september, but from what I heard it caught a lot of innocent players too (it caught my first two accounts that I spent 800 hours on, 600 then 200, but that's because I used a DLC unlocker to get shit for free)
so far my 3rd account has not been banned after about 1270 hours, but I'm not sure how much longer that'll last

>>716239820
>have a franchise perfect for genres involving guns, space lasers, battleships, and large scale wars in giant mecha
>make only RPGs, small arena fights, exclusive arcade games, fighting games, chibi shit, gacha, and a fucking CARD GAME
Come on Bandit Scamco, Gundam would be perfect for any other genre besides those. Just go copy Titanfall or Armored Core at least.

>>716239775
>You can do that in GBO2, and to better effect.
Zaku 1 had it's tackle strength removed in 2. It was a little nod to the Paupa Supply Chief in MSG beating the shit out of Amuro. You could kill suits with 2-3 tackles in GBO1. When the desert map was up we'd hide in the canyon part and ambush some poor GM Ground and do pic related

>>716240302
Yeah, you said it!

>>716226918
the sad thing is from the other guy's pov that tank was never near him and the rockets flew right past him but then ACS OVERLOAD LOL YOURE DEAD

>>716213547 (OP)
>>716213585
So we're really pretending the bottom one isn't a vast improvement? You guys are fucking pathetic.

>>716240424
Big japanese companies are truly a mystery.
Gundam EVO was pretty fun and had everything there to be a big game and they still managed to fuck it up.

>>716240430
they gave it back after like 7 years of only having Tackle Lv2, plus a skill that lets it use tackles to cancel out of melee recovery animations (it basically deals like 3000-4000 damage per tackle now)
better late than never, I suppose
the real kicker of this balance patch was the guns, HP and Manuever Armor Lv2

>>716224913
Now they just need to give the Dom it's MA from launch and i'll be happy

>>716240702
What a horribly managed series it is. Both games, anime, manga, and all those fancy shmancy gunpla.

>>716240850
it's actually fucking strange how none of the Doms in GBO2 actually have MA
very few of the Dom-style suits have MA at all, even the Dwadge's Custom variant loses MA for some ungodly reason

also hey, a mech game thread that reached page 10 with 530 posts.

>>716240370
No, this pixy was rolling like a dark souls character when you caught them trying to sneak around. Just consecutive EE until he saw you swap weapons or reload. Same with the PR, When you killed him he'd spawn in pop EXAM and be in that mode until he died. It never went off.

Make a GBO2 thread so I can continue shitting on it.

>>716240996
join us on /m/ then
>>716240980
yeah I get the gist, was just saying lol

>>716240957
It did On GBO2 launch of console the basic Dom had MA and it was removed. Zaku 1 also had it and it was taken away.

>>716241037
There? No. Here? Yeah.

>>716240996
>>716241040

>>716241130
kek, who the fuck plays GBO2 anyways on /v/

>>716241117
never did, unless the beta test Dom had MA

>>716241351
Probably not a single anon