Thread 717121081

I made a mistake, I want to bring back the Tojo Clan, and I need your help.

>>717121081 (OP)
Brilliant plan to crush Omi, executed flawlessly. I'm proud of you Daigo

>>717121081 (OP)
>No, Daigo! We need to be better men!

>>717121081 (OP)
>>717121865
Why does Kiryu always think he knows what is best when he ran the Tojo Clan for like ten minutes?

i always hated that kiryu made a habit of regularly telling daigo that he was doing a bullshit job when he pushed the job on him to begin with

>>717121081 (OP)
>Ryo Aoki is the guy who convinced the Tojo Clan to disband
>Entire origin story is him being a chud
Grim

>>717121081 (OP)
>Ok, got it.

>>717121081 (OP)
Turn around now, Daigo...

>>717121081 (OP)
>But what about Sawa-sensei?

>>717123058
Sawa-sensei. She slipped. We were arguing, I don't know. She fell.

>>717122301
Because Kiryuu's learned firsthand how utterly incompetent Daigo is over the past 20 years.

Daigo's mom should've stayed as chairman.

that'll be the plot of Like a Dragon 12: Spaceman Yakuza in Mars

>>717121081 (OP)
>I'll help you, and then I'll kill you. As for my reasons, I'm not so sure myself.

didn't daigo get his ass beat by a baseball player?

>>717127548
that baseball player was GOAT yakuza protagonist though

>>717121081 (OP)
I would like a Yakuza game that’s just building up the clan and taking shit over.

>>717127623
I'm glad they haven't brought him back in any capacity. Just had him as a Chad and then he went back to his Milkychan

i wish they didn't force kiryu to scowl every single game, in the ps2 games he actually had a full range of emotions

we're never going to get Yakuza -1(tm) starring kazama during his hitman days cause of the no killing rule

>>717127784
never gonna happen, one of their rules is to never glorify (purposefully, anyway) the yakuza

>>717129590
why is this gritty dark series scared of death

>"The great dissolution"
>Almost immediately doesn't matter after happening and shit keeps going sideways anyway

>>717122994
This is what cancer does to a Japanese man

>>717130013
It's a psyop funded by the yakuza in conjunction with the japanese government to rehabilitate their image

>>717130532
>rehabilitate their image
>by portraying them as extremely violent and stupid thugs

>>717130013
yakuza hasn't been "dark and gritty" since like the og 2

>>717121081 (OP)
A STEAK?

Call me a 0fag, but that aftercredit scene with Kiryu and Majima facing each other with Receive You playing was so fucking kino I knew from that point on this series would be my new obsession, and to this day, I'm upset that song was never used that well ever again.

>>717132442
0fag

>>717132442
0fag

>>717121081 (OP)
Honestly, doing this would 100% save the series. I was dead ass tired of the "we gotta find real job for ex-yakuza!!" "they is good boys everybody being racist and don't wanna hire them" plotline already in Yakuza 7.

I need to know more about this broad

>>717130226
Well if you follow news about organized crime in Japan. Yakuza groups are collapsing and in there place a new kind of syndicate is forming known as the Tokuryu, favoring looser organization and anonymity over reputation.
I can see future games focusing on that.

>>717132479
>>717132623
Thanks for engaging with me. I think the scene where Kiryu intervenes the stabbing in 7 was pretty hype. I wish the bathroom scene in IW was better; it just didn't hit the same because Ichiban's friends in the background ruined it. But just hearing Receive You in the background of a scene really elevates it

>>717133145
>the tokuryu
>ryu

>>717133145
>dudes with back murals and breakaway suits so they're always ready to fight shirtless are becoming a thing of the past
no...

>>717133258
If you play Yakuza 7 before Gaiden, the Kiryu popping up to stop the knife was pure kino. If you play Gaiden before 7, it's retarded

>>717130013
Kiryu has killed many many men

>>717133080
Her VA plays the little boy in the Majima Pirate game.

>>717133539
No he hasn't

>>717129036
>i wish they didn't force kiryu to scowl every single game, in the ps2 games he actually had a full range of emotions

>>717133912
don't let Yagami see this

>>717133912
I know he's in his 50's so his skin has wrinkles but he's definitely scowling with a forced smile like all of those faceapp memes

>>717133638
He used to kill in PS2 era. Some dudes in Sotenbori acknowledge it when he's throwing thugs in the river, they wash up dead.

What are the odds Majima brought back the Ambergris from Hawaii to cure Kiryu's cancer? I can't see him going from coughing up blood and being weeks from death, to full remission in the ending of 8 without it.

>>717136679
He doesn't know about it, does he? Unless Jason and Masaru informed him about it. And he would have to basically find a whale to work with for this, seeing how Rodriguez's father got rid of all the ones he had for himself.

Are Zero and Kiwami 2 good? I enjoyed Kiwami quite a bit but it felt like a story that didn't need a continuation or prequel

Considering his experience in being the 4th Chairman, would Kiryu even make it big by leading the Kiryu family in a supposed AU of 1 if he didn't go to the joint?

>>717137671
He was Chairman for like 5 minutes

>>717137252
I feel like Majima did know, and acting like he didn't was a misdirection. It feels like Majima and Saejima are talking about Kiryu as if he's on death's door, but in the ending of 8, he's in remission. They have to make it back to Japan just after Kiryu starts treatment, (More like Palliative Care?) And I feel like Majima would only bother recording the whole explanation if he needed it to convince Kiryu of something fantastical, otherwise, just explaining how the job on Nele Island went in person would be enough, and it wouldn't matter that Kiryu would write the pirate stuff off as typical Majima embellishment. But if Kiryu needed to understand the importance of the ambergris, and be convinced to take it, it makes a lot more sense.
I think Majima kept a piece of the ambergris from the old pirate, or from the whale in Madlantis that ate Samoa Joe.

>>717137948
The funniest thing about the whole series is that even if he were clueless about the day to day operations of the Tojo Clan (He wasn't, by all accounts, he knows the game as well as anybody, and Kazama fully intended for him to take over in full faith.) None of the events of the games after 1 would even take place in the same way. Everyone only fucks with the Tojo Clan because Kiryu isn't there to kick asses and set things straight.

Which is exactly why I think they should do at least one game based in an AU where Kiryu remains Yon-Daime

>>717139241
He would run away the moment responsibilities would demand he does anything smarter than beating the shit out of someone. Daigo was pretty competent, he just had Kiryu ruin everything more than once. In 3 Kiryu gets him shot by refusing to resettle, then pushes the only guy bankrolling Tojo to kys himself. In 4 Kiryu beats the shit out of Daigo for trying to claim Akiyama's money. In 5 his piece of shit kid lands entire Tojo leadership in prison.

>>717139827
It feels like Kiryu is the perfect middle manager/mook figure that can get shit done but should never be given any actual responsibility. The dude is the best hammer you can get. And there are many problems that need a hammer. Unfortunately he keeps winding up in situations that need a scalpel.

is 6 good? I marathoned 3 4 and 5 and got burnt out pretty bad. Heard 6 was a lot more streamlined and that it's just Kiryu which sounds good

>>717137671
>in a supposed AU of 1 if he didn't go to the joint
That would be weird since all he had to do was just get the fuck out when Nishiki killed Dojima. Like he could have just threw the gun in the harbor of some shit. Then no one would have to worry about anything. Kiryu gets his family, Nishiki doesn’t go full retard. Yumi doesn’t have to deal with Jingu.

>>717140364
>is 6 good
You like WWII era battleships?

>>717140364
Combat and minigames are not good. Story depends on how well you can tolerate Kanda's voice actor and state corruption stories.

>>717140432
Frankly everything would have been fine if he just tossed unconscious Jingu off the skyscraper or took his fucking gun. Kiryu usually kills his friends through incredible incompetence.

>>717140364
Same thing happened to me and 6 didn't help at all. It's more of the same retarded overly convoluted storytelling

>>717137410
Zero is the best one. You will ruin the future games for yourself because out of a sheer miracle they wrote a good story and added good mechanics for the first time in the series since 2. K2 cuts out a LOT of original and is also Dragon Engine jank. It's generally held to be a downgrade.

>>717133145
Isn't this essentially what RK was trying to be?

>>717141830
RK was more of a standard street gang wasn't it? A loose collection of people but there was only anonymity for stab bastard.

>>717136679
Unlikely. At the ending none of them knew what it was specifically. Masaru and Jason were spitballing what it could possibly be in the bar weeks if not months after the fact, and unless Majima went back to Hawaii or they actively called him after their spitballing session Majima doesn't know what it actually was. You had Majima and Saejima specifically talking about how it's a shame they couldn't figure out what it was because Majima had a fire in his eyes to help Kiryu, and Majima specifically has his speech about failures being motivations for the next generation and to leave things in their hands while finding new dreams to chase.

It's a pretty direct way of saying "Our time in the limelight is over, now we help the new blood" for Kiryu, Majima, Saejima, and Daigo to be helping people like Ichiban and Noah however they can.

>>717141909
The entire organization is a bunch of street gangs forming a major organization with a proper structure running it from the shadows. The members are all unknowns because they're from such low rung gangs that got absorbed into RK and you basically get recruited by someone seeing or hearing about you doing crimes. I wouldn't call that a street gang simply because of their size but I also wouldn't call it a full fledged Yakuza organization either. Keep in mind Seiryu in 8 were focused on recruiting people like that too but they were public facing and an actual public Yakuza group.

>>717142446
I feel like it's all misdirection and an asspull is coming. It just FEELS like Yakuza 9 is going to show Majima revealing the ambergris to Kiryu, which makes him functionally 15 years younger or something, and resets the series to the status quo. Because Ichiban hasn't panned out well enough and the new series runners don't like the direction it was going before.
I would absolutely not be surprised if that were the case. It feels too telegraphed here, and it doesn't make sense to have Kiryu go through a miraculous recovery in the last game, then introduce a macguffin that can explain it perfectly, only to leave that plot device stranded in that game, never to be brought up again.
And then to leave the game on a cliffhanger as to what exactly Majima presents to Kiryu.

>>717137671
Assuming 1 still happened the Tojo Clan is teetering on bankruptcy due to Nishiki. Even if Kiryu never appoints Terada the Jingweon stuff with the Tojo Clan would still happen because they were going to attack it regardless, they just seized on the moment of weakness in the Tojo Clan and even with Kiryu being appointed it's still in shambles. Kiryu has no lieutenants outside of Majima and Kashiwagi to help him rebuild it. If he brought Daigo in as one there's no way to tell if he'd ever be a solid leader like he was since he has no incentive to be in that chairman position. Shindo is going to be backstabbing Kiryu when he can. Ryuji will still go to war with them because of the weakness + Jingweon.

Once you get to 3 Mine never joins since Daigo's leadership as the 6th Chairman is what got him interested in being part of the Tojo Clan in the first place so there's still no major source of revenue. The events likely still happen somewhat the same way just without guys like Kanda or Tamashiro because Kiryu is not the type of person to sell an orphanage away to be demolished unless that task is relegated to Shindo (Assuming he didn't revolt for milf pussy in 2), Daigo, Kashiwagi, or Majima and they just never tell him anything about it. They would also get way under what Brack Monday was offering monetarily since Daigo was playing hardball in the first place and he already rejected multiple offers from them.

4 happens because it was a 20+ year keikaku regardless of who is running the place, and it's completely up in the air if a Kiryu placed in Daigo's position in that game would do the same thing Daigo did because he would be far more strapped for cash due to no Mine and Kiryu only has whatever Black Monday handed them in 3 (Assuming he doesn't find out what it's from).

You also have to remember that many money making avenues wouldn't fly under Kiryu. Assassinations, drugs, and slavery are gone as options leaving only guns and loan sharking.

>>717140236
In movie tropes you call the heavy second In command (like Darth Vader) the Dragon, which is fitting for the Dragon of Dojima. Thing is, though, that Kiryu is a fucking lazy bum who doesn't act until he has to. Daigo's biggest problem is that he never sought out someone to replace Kiryu, but his stupidity is a plot contrivance to bring Kiryu back in each game. This series is too long and dumb.

Majima is a fun side character to bounce off of shit but he is pretty much inferior as a character narratively to the rest of the cast. 0 troons need not apply with your not canon ass narrative, which also sucked dick.

The writing in the Yakuza series is objectively bad for the most part. I don't get why people hype it up.

>>717145787
Yeah but he's so hecking quirky!

>>717123058
If someone killed a piece of ass like that I'd be obsessed too.

>>717129774
>glorify (purposefully, anyway) the yakuza
Lol, they failed miserably

>>717133145
If you look at the news, Japan is importing a shitton of pajeets therefore all the crime is going to be outsourced to them. Making the Yakuza unecessary.

>>717133080
>>717133632
That's the random NPC Kiryu saves in the start, Akame(First Summer Uika, pic related) is the one who plays Noa in pirate yakuza.

>>717146586
I loved Akame, man Gaiden was so fun. Kiryu having to party and spend all that money was kino

>>717146586
>random NPC
She's Ogikubo's granddaughter, someone who was established as being in high levels of Japanese politics and wanted Ryo Aoki to submit to their rule meaning he's a Daidoji.

>>717146769
She has like 5 minutes of screen time, daidoji ojou-sama or not, that's an NPC.

>>717122301
>Why does Kiryu always think he knows what is best when he ran the Tojo Clan
...Did you miss EVERYTHING AFTER THE FIRST GAME...? Like everything since he left is entirely everyone other than him's fault for the way the Tojo's were ran/ended.

>"Don't fuck with Kiryu's orphanage."
>Tojo lackey not listening to Daigo: "I'm gonna wreck Kiryu's orphanage."
etc.

>>717125698
The Tojo's just shot themselves in the foot. I don't know how much you know about Japanese culture (I am an expert...)

>>717146960
Who put Daigo in charge?

>>717121081 (OP)
Distancing the series from Yakuza stories and just making it lolrandom quirkchungus shit was a fucking mistake

>>717146867
She's still an important character they're likely using for a setup for 9 either to dissolve the Daidoji or get revenge for her family.

>>717125698
That would be woke

>>717125698
No she should have tried to rape Kiryu. Kiryu probably would have let her too.

>>717141830
RK was still under a Yakuza organization (as it happened right before the GD/7 happened, it was going on at the same time as 7 [substory about the circus dude in the park, as an example]). Though RK was also directed by the police (well someone with the police) so they were "sanctioned yakuza" in a way.

>>717145787
>but he is pretty much inferior as a character narratively to the rest of the cast.
I don't know. The issue with Majima is that the writers don't actually write for him. When they do (0 and in a way 4 with Saejima's flashbacks) they can make him interesting, but they fall back on the "le quirky stabby man" because they don't want to give Majima some actual backstory/drama.

>lee survives this in the retcon
I understand that they are now catering to reddit trannies with the franchise becoming more quirky, but why do they gotta ruin old shit?

Can't stop thinking about Sawa-sensei...

>>717122146
>>717121081 (OP)
>give gaiden a go
>drop it straight away and just reboot up Judgement and Lost Judgement.
this is a no-Omi nigger zone.

>>717147554
Because the series is totally off the rails at this point. What else does it have to offer, after all? They clearly have no idea what to do with Ichiban, Kiryu has been a terrible static character since 3, the Judgment series is dead, and the turn based combat is still lacking. So now we rely on the series drinking from its own well and hoping you remember when that thing happened and that's enough to placate you.

>>717146960
And being fair to Daigo, I truly do think Kiryu should've advised Daigo instead of telling him (Daigo) to fuck off every chance he could've.

We see this in 5.

>Kiryu-san, how should we do X, Y and Z?
>Not my fucking problem, Daigo-kun. Now get the fuck out of my taxi.
>*Daigo vanishes, setting off the events of 5, dragging Kiryu into it*

Like, the Tojo's would've been under war, but having Kiryu's ear and thoughts would've done the Tojo's way better than Daigo having to do nearly everything himself without Kiryu.

Kiryu wouldn't have even needed to do the day-to-day presidential delegations, he would've only stepped in on major shit (like the Dissolution or trying to stop a potential war).

But that wouldn't have given Sega numerous sequels of dragging Kiryu into other peoples messes, so...

>>717147174
Not Kiryu. Kiryu appointed Yukio Terada to Chairman.

>>717147832
I don't think Kiryu could have really done much in 5 to stop what was going on. Daigo was already on top of everything and actively stopped the conspiracy before it even got put into play which shocked everyone who was a part of it. It wasn't until there was a shock conspiracy behind said conspiracy that issues actually caught him off guard. 5 is Daigo at his best.

>>717147832
Daigo is Kiryu's mess, every game is Kiryu ruining the world by his inability to commit to anything, ever. Granted, this is more a writing problem than a character problem, but Kiryu is a catastrophically poor character buoyed by the fact he is literally invulnerable.

>>717147924
Anon he literally went out to fetch Daigo and force him to become chairman. Kiryu is also directly responsible for Terada and his hilarious plot considering he fucking appointed a man he has met for ten whole seconds.

>>717148021
>considering he fucking appointed a man he has met for ten whole seconds.
He had Kazama's trust though, and Kazama to him is not only essentially a god but a 16d chessmaster (Which he has proof of, especially after 0's events). It's not like he had any better options at that moment since his only other options were an insane man and Kashiwagi. Kashiwagi would have been even worse as shown by 3.

>>717148147
So does that make Terada the ultimate 18-d chessmaster because he was able to deceive the smartest man in the universe, Shintaro Kazama?

>>717147967
>>717147832
KIryu actually choose to talk about this issue in his letter to Daigo in Yakuza 6.
Except, he choose to write that letter in Haruka's hospital room that was supposed to be the whole point of the visit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg5IMBk7dFc

>>717147819
>the Judgment series is dead
killed by elderly faggot rapist from the grave?
why not just recast Yagami, Kiryu should just die soon and Ichiban is the most boring schizo

>>717148225
He was able to convince a Tojo Clan higher up that he, an Omi Alliance higher up is not only a solid dude but not trying to backstab him so I guess so.

>>717148301
Judgment was the child of a man that no longer exists at the company and getting THAT FUCKING HACK YOKOYAMA to work on it after the fact would just make it another terrible fucking abortion of a story like basically everything else he touches.

>>717148341
It's a miracle that Terada didn't nuke all of the Yakuza from the face of Japan then, being smarter than Kazama basically makes you omniscient.

Stranger than Heaven is 100% gonna have some Yakuza references
I can feel it in my bones

>>717148439
kill all Jingweon korean scum

>>717148301
>why not just recast Yagami
Because they have no need to. Judgment isn't dead because of licensing and people just keep repeating this over and over for no reason. Can you buy JE and LJ on PC? You can? Well then why are you still saying it's a licensing issue when the whole point was the licensing wouldn't get him on PC? It's dead because the person who spearheaded it (Nagoshi) isn't there anymore, not because Kimura isn't available or expensive.

Plus, Japan doesn't really do the whole "recast" thing, they just unperson you in most cases.

>>717148474
Binary Domain didn't outside of JP-exclusive DLC skins so I don't know. At most Binary Domain just used a few textures and building models.

>>717148474
>Stranger than Heaven
that name sucks, damn.

>>717148474
>Written and Directed by Yokoyama
Dead on arrival

>>717148530
>It's dead because the person who spearheaded it (Nagoshi) isn't there anymore
but what about sawa-sensai...

>>717148654
Getting her tight little pussy pounded by BBC

Yokoyama is a fucking faggot who openly admitted to censoring the games and only writing stuff that is meant to be "progressive" and acceptable by the western reddit chungus audience standards.

>>717149051
>here's the modern Yakuza audience bro

You have my sword.

>>717147554
>lee survives this in the retcon
what? how?

>>717149247
And my bow.

>>717150219
He survived the explosion but is basically stuck in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. The same happens with the detective that got shot with Nishitani.
For no reason at all they retconned two deaths so they'd live until they die a bit later from natural causes anyway.

>>717150284
Ahh geez, what's next? Is Mine survived the fall too?

>>717150772
Considering Wesker did there's no doubt Mine did.

>>717150821
Then Rikiya was died for nothing, at this point, they might well bring him back too!

>>717150937
Nah, he needs to stay dead. It just makes sense you know? Everyone else can be resurrected though, they deserve it for their service.

>>717150772
at this point every ichiban game is going to revive somebody from 3

>>717150982
I wouldn't be surprised if kiyru can tiger drop cancer and turn out just fine in the next game. It does feel like trivialization, tho.

>>717124674
Daigo is 100x more competent than Kiryu when it comes to being a Yakuza, Kiryu would have sank the Tojo even faster with his bullshit

>>717122301
What are you talking about? Kiryu's happy to let Daigo cook, except Daigo doesn't cook, he make's a pig's meal out of things and Kiryu has to constantly step in to bail him out
>>Kiwami 2
Kiryu had to drag Daigo back from the streets for his mom because he was having a phase
>>Y3
Kiryu had to fight a dude who kidnapped Daigo and kept him in a vegetative state because...he admires Daigo too much? (I still don't get it)
>>Y4
Kiryu again has to leave Okinawa for Tokyo because Daigo was trying to score big money (which flopped)
>>Y5
I've just finished the Kiryu chapter. Daigo was asking Kiryu for advise. Kiryu was smart this time and pretended not to know him. So is he off the hook this time? No, because Daigo's gone AWOL and his subjects came flailing to Kiryu to do something.

One complaint I have about the Yakuza series so far is that every goddamn time the story's set in motion because Daigo somehow fucked up again

>>717148341
Kazama knew that Terada was a secret korean
You never trust koreans unless they look like Kpop people and declare their undying love for your dick

>>717151210
daigo probably got a good education as a rich yakuza prince. His results are comically bad in the games but I have to guess Kiryu has none of the book smarts to be a clan administrator.

>>717151089
As bullshit as it sounds, I'm all up for it since death means nothing in the Yakuza game.

>>717129036
I don't mind. That classic machismo you get from scowling is something I don't get tired off. Besides, look at this >>717122994
- not everyone can pull off the scowl even if they want to

>>717148474
>There will be a lady in Sotenbori wearing pic related in one of the earlier time periods. If you choose to speak to her and get to know her, she'll tell you her name is Etsuko.

>>717151165
this will be the ultimate test for yokoyama I think. cancer is a tragic painful slow rotting of the body but we all know they're about to write about how the chemo was successful and kiryu will be fine

>>717122994
WE'RE BREAKING THE LAW

>>717133539
obviously rubber bullets

>>717151272
>Kiryu had to drag Daigo back from the streets for his mom because he was having a phase
He also didn't want to be part of the Yakuza anymore. Kiryu forced him into the leadership role instead of doing anything and, surprise, with Majima's backing he had support and became a solid leader.
>Kiryu had to fight a dude who kidnapped Daigo and kept him in a vegetative state because...he admires Daigo too much?
Daigo did absolutely nothing wrong in 3. He tried to keep Kiryu's life at the orphanage safe out of respect for Kiryu and instead led to Black Monday coming after Daigo specifically because he wouldn't sell Kiryu's land. He was financially struggling because of Nishiki specifically and Mine was the only thing keeping the Tojo Clan afloat (Who only joined because of Daigo in the first place). Everything wrong with 3 isn't Daigo's fault, it's Kiryu's and Nishiki's.

With regards to Mine's motivation, he finds Daigo's outlook on life, the way he acts, and the way he leads an inspiration because he never had such a thing or met such a person during his life and he'd rather his memories of Daigo be kept as they were instead of taking care of a vegetable in a coma who can't do anything to inspire anyone anymore.
>because Daigo was trying to score big money
Except Daigo was trying to get any money at all after Nishiki's full retard bankruptcy of the Tojo Clan hurt him and now he's lost Mine as well. The only option Daigo has at that point is to pivot to selling the Kamuro Hills project which Majima refuses to do just to keep the Tojo Clan afloat. Again, Daigo is doing everything he can and actively trying to make deals and find ways to keep the Tojo Clan afloat but has been set back multiple times.
>No, because Daigo's gone AWOL and his subjects came flailing to Kiryu to do something.
Play more of 5 since you're right at the start. Daigo is by far at his best in it and actively saving the Tojo Clan at every point.

sex with noah

>>717151767
I'll take your word for it. I'm playing Saejima and getting sidetracked hunting in the mountains

>>717151383
It doesnt help that the Yakuza as a organization was going to fall regardless of either of them being the leaders
It was already hinted in 4, the Tojo wasnt raking in enough money to sustain its own size, its why Daigo had to toss away Majima so he could get enough money to sustain a dying organization
Daigo ran the books and knows that the Tojo is not sustainable in the long run
Kiryu, given how the series gradually made him from willing to shake down people to a paragon of justice, would have sank down the Tojo even faster by refusing to compromise with his principles and forcing the families to stick with moral methods.
Honestly that can work but he would have to reestructure the Tojo and turn it into a real by the books company or zaibatsu, similar to how irl top yakuza just went to car manufacturers instead of sinking with the boat, and i doubt Kiryu has the knowledge required and the charisma neccessary to force a legion of scumbags to go legit and become salary men, it would be a contained version of what happens in 7 and 8

>>717151767
Dont forget
>Daigo doing everything he can to keep the clan alive in 4, Kiryu shows up and says some bullshit about "ill show you how heavy the burden of the Tojo cross is" while he couldnt last a single day in Daigo's shoes before running away and then beating the ever loving shit of the man he supposedly views like his own son, AGAIN
Daigo had every reason to blow up at Kiryu in 8 that fuck has the gall to show up and demand they help him fix the shitshow he never wanted to help with

>>717152363
Yeah, that too. Saejima and Kiryu just leaving him to deal with crap less than a year after saying they're going to help him was so stupid and makes them both look like assholes. Majima is the only friend Daigo has.

>>717152527
Wasn’t Saejima supposed to just serve a short sentence to clean his record? It’s still contrived but at least he fully intended on coming back unlike taxi driver Kiryu

Anyone have Sawa-sensei feet pics?

>>717152740
I thought he willingly went back in both 5 and 6, not that he was forced to.

>>717126070
lmao

>>717152527
Yep, Majima didnt even care that Daigo sold him out since it was to keep the clan afloat
Majima knows whats up and was back to work as usual by the time 5 happens
Not the first time Yakuza clans have to send a big name to the slammer to protect the clan anyway

>>717152854
I think he wanted to keep a clear record before getting handed the reins of his own family
Also im pretty sure at this point Saejima just wants to live in Prison and doesnt like the outside world due to spending most of his life in it

Am I a bad person if I jerked off to dead Sawa's feet?

>>717154529
You're a bad person for jerking off to poorly rendered feet

>>717154845
Enough to make me cum so it's all good.

>>717146336
eh for the most part the characters actually actively *in* the yakuza lead a pretty sad life or end up eating shit in some major way
majimas the most notable outlier (and even then they gave him a pretty tragic backstory)

I still dont understand why the final bosses for IW werent reversed. I am hoping they dont do multiple protagonists again for 9 but then again they have proven they can do it well with 0.

>>717123329
she fell?

>>717156573
She was a beautiful innocent creature, what did she ever do to you?!

>>717122734
Massively underrated character
>>717123058
No j3 :(

>>717126070
What are you doing here?

>>717129590
3 playable characters, kuze and the marketing guy, too! Fuck sawashiro.

>>717131283
Still better compared to from where they are now

>>717132479
>>717132623
Drones
>>717132442
0 and lad are the only games with a decent story. Strangely enough, 8 falls flat fast.

>>717133080
Does gaiden 1 have the best graphics by far?

>>717156912
Mad

>>717136238
Would people drown in such a river

>>717144176
When was kiryu saying he's against drugs? Genuinely asking.

>>717146769
Aoki is daidoji? Daidoji is among the worst additions in the franchise.

>>717147819
>Kiryu has been a terrible static character since 3
It's clear they put sales figures above anything else, true yakuza.

>>717148535
Judge eyes doesn't? Japanese can't do consistent story writing or worldbuilding. They just go with: oh, that'll be cool, too!

>>717157250
I seem to recall something being said during the Snake Flower Triad stuff either in 1 or 3 but I could be remembering wrong. I know for a fact Kiryu hates people shaking others down (Shakedowns + several substories), scamming (Basically half the substories in the series), human trafficking (Bizza in 0 off the top of my head), stealing (Dine and Dashers), and killing people.
He's fine with illegal weapon dealing (He literally shops at black markets like Beam and is fine with Lao selling stuff in 8), illegal gambling (He does it in every single game), and anything in general you can do under the table as long as it's not a scam (Like the tuna company scam in 3).

Drug dealing in general is almost never talked about in these games, it's mainly human trafficking or scams, but I could have sworn it was mentioned at least a few times.

>>717148613
Hopefully not, but sth is in the same universe.

>>717156948
I'm not sure why but I remember Lost Judgment having the crispest and nicest graphics

>>717147610
Why, 7G is great. Well except for the optional content

>that feel when never finished Like A Majima
>did literally everything I could in Hawaii as soon as I got there and was a legendary pirate before ever even setting sail
>as soon as I actually set sail I get bored

>>717149114
>>717149051
the woke game in question

>>717147290
Yeah because we all know that things set up in 7G end up being VERY important

>>717158258
Cheetos is best girl

>>717156912
>0 and lad are the only games with a decent story
shit 0fags say

>>717121081 (OP)
You're a faggot, Daigo

>>717121081 (OP)
What he needs to be competent is a gun period

>>717158426
Best girl up until she cuts her hair

>>717148530
>Binary Domain didn't
Binary Domain wasn't set in Sotenbori

>>717157667
>but I could have sworn it was mentioned at least a few times.
Feel so, too. Can't pinpoint it. Aren't half the prostitutes illegals in some form? Isn't yakuza about the outcasts of society?

Was this a deliberate attempt to make a "loli" that gets zero fans or fanart. Disgusting creature

>>717158426
>ackhsually vtubing is heckin wholesome chungus!
fucking vtuber whore deserves to get her shit rocked

>>717157941
Lj is good, but gaiden looks better at nights imho. Hawaii is too bright. Curious about the majima game. Still need to finish 8 and beat the tfmt in 7. The samurai shotgun is no joke and I don't feel sacrificing sacrifice stones.

>>717158201
What bored or bothered you most?

>>717158734
Nah this haircut is way cuter

>>717158426
Among the worst vidya characters ever. Yakuza can't get girls to work, no matter what.

>>717158909
They're just different LUT, each game had different LUT to give certain vibes

>>717158971
They gave Kiryu a perfect wife (hypothetical) and you're still unhappy

>>717159050
>a perfect wife (hypothetical)
yes

Am I the only one bothered by the skills in lad and especially in infinite wealth? Is the cab driver constantly traveling with a tire, toolbox aso or is it a ki tire, toolbox aso?
Having to waste a turn to double the next attack feels idiotic, as attacking twice does the exact same, with few exceptions like lower resistance or increase crit.

>>717159078
Looks like a man in heavy makeup. Like one of those kabuki dudes playing a woman

>>717159050
Where is she in 3,4,5,6,7,8?
>>717159078
Addicted to cigarettes and needs money from kiryu to sell shit to him. Imagine her cig bud smell.

>>717159139
>cab driver constantly traveling with a tire, toolbox aso or is it a ki tire, toolbox aso
What part of "Ichi/Kiryu is imagining all this" didn't you understand

>>717159185
JORYU

>>717159206
we literally see the Tojo Clan dissolution from Kiryu's point of view and everyone's just fighting normally

>>717159185
>Where is she in 3,4,5,6,7,8?
Nowhere. Apparently she started working with juvenile offenders since 2 so that's the only thing that happened. They're adding wife traits to her, making her more motherly, she's being prepped

>>717158325
8 was being developed at the same time so it makes sense how that worked out in the end and 8G has nothing to do with the main topics brought up in 7G so we'll have to see with 9.

>>717159253
Kiryu only starts going schizo in 8 when you play as him. He actually comments on that

I refuse to play Infinite Wealth because Kiryu is in it. Guy should have stayed gone after 6.

>>717159341
Based

>>717159341
But Kiryu part of the game is the best bit. It's everything that's happening to Ichi that you should be offended by in 8

>>717159139
>Having to waste a turn to double the next attack feels idiotic, as attacking twice does the exact same, with few exceptions like lower resistance or increase crit.
You clearly don't understand how broken it is. It allows you to make stuff like Essence of Friendship obscenely broken (Webm related, spoilers for a Big Swell boss fight) and allows you to take advantage of dealing far more damage with things like Essences or specific single target buffs that allow you to kill stuff that otherwise would be dangerous to leave alive longer. It also makes any job that ignored DEF beyond busted which, again, leads to stuff like EoF being even more absurd.

>>717159050
>>717159078
The actual perfect wife

>>717159418
This is a 56 year old woman

>>717159206
>protag's is insane or on the brink of death
A very convenient excuse.
>>717159253
That is correct

>>717159050
In 9 Kiryu will be in a wheelchair and she'll be taking care of him, cementing her place as the Tifa of the series

>>717159232
I mean, they did nail a certain and common type of young woman imagining herself as secret society queen, while in fact she smokes like a chimney and hangs out with homeless people and prostitutes.

>>717156912
LAD's story is awful. "Sex trafficking is actually good and anyone opposed to it is just racist". What a bunch of bullshit.

judgment 3 when

>>717159618
Wait a second I know people like that too

>>717159662
It was just a
>writer inserts his fetish
moment. Despite seething about bleached Japan, Ichi is doing the same thing, trying to remove yakuza from Japan entirely. If bleached Japan wasn't corrupt they'd be on the same side

>>717159410
I do understand. You can lower resistance or defense or willpower thrice before attacking, leading to x5 or more of the total damage. Have adachi as host and his rose attack did almost 5k hp damage.
I'm not in big swell, yet and want to finish everything in premium and rush the story in legend. Legend in lad was easy af for the most part. This the case here, too? Balance feels better in 8.

>>717121081 (OP)
ending the yakuza was their biggest mistake. They could have had endless content around it but without the yakuza what are the games even gonna be about? That's why they are all so boring now. They have to come up with conflicts out of their asses and after 3 games making the government the bad guys it just don't cut it. Yakuzas were the perfect villains.

>>717159418
But that's not ai from 0...
>>717159494
Wait a minute x3 (chotto matte kudasai)

>>717159681
Exactly my point. Female players ruined the franchise.

>>717159802
>3 games making the government the bad guys
That was literally just 7. In LJ, 7G and 8 you're fighting criminal organizations some of which are yakuza

>>717158258
>if i just keep pretending the dogshit writing isn't there and instead jerk off furiously like the brainless virgin i am, surely that means there's no issues with the writing

>>717159771
>You can lower resistance or defense or willpower thrice before attacking,
Sure, but it's still faster to just double your damage and attack over the debuffs, especially when most fights take a few seconds later in the game.
>host and his rose attack
That's because that's one of the most broken single target skills. It's even more broken on characters who actually specialize in magic.
>This the case here, too?
It's more or less the same deal as 7 except now you just need everyone wearing Wizard Hats so they can deal with the MP drain from Essence spam and the important characters slapping I think it was a War God Talisman on top of that. Just get Kiryu with his DoD Essence and get Ichiban with the nuke and let them do everything while your other party members clean up with appropriate moves. The hardest part of Legend is just early game and gets significantly easier the instant you unlock Kiryu.

>>717159891
And what about all the gay sex scenes amirite

>>717159662
That's not story, but setting. Story is two opposing brothers balling each other.
>>717159742
Thats called mirroring in narrative writing and lad is full of it and opposite mirroring like pc and antagonist, bleach and yakuza or police and yakuza, back and front power pitics aso. Mirroring has psychological and neurological effects and is considered as enrichment to a story as it adds (literal) depth.

Why did Chitose's grandpa try to have sex with her in that one scene

>>717160020
Thanks chatgpt

>>717159956
it's a game made for fujoshits, its bound to have homoerotic implications like these

>>717159802
East solution is to use the Tokyuryu as the new antagonists. It's topical, and plus it works well with the undertone "old-fashioned gokudo are criminals with code and class" that yakuza games always have

>>717159949
>fights take a few seconds later in the game.
That's what I had in mind when critizing the skills. Most are redundant, too.
>broken attack
Adachi has high def, even as host, with his host jacket and corresponding items, he's resistant to all damage as mage, ridiculous!

>Haruka is always seen alone or with Haruto
So where did that guy fuck off to? I know they can't pay the actor again for a cameo but just show him from behind or something.

>>717159949
>The hardest part of Legend is just early game and gets significantly easier the instant you unlock Kiryu.
Kiryu is ridiculously strong, despite ichiban having much better stats. All in all I like the mechanics better, but feel that armor crafting would've enriched the gameplay further. Brands are fun and do help creating unique builds.

>>717160127
>easiest solution is to portray a real gang
Yeah easiest in terms of ways to kill yourself I guess.

>>717141909
>Hangure (半グレ, literally "half-grey") are considered to be “jun-bōryokudan(準暴力団, quasi-yakuza)” groups. The term half-grey in Japanese refers to groups that commit crimes, yet are not considered to fit the description of criminal organizations (referring to yakuza clans in this context).
That's what they're, at least according to Soma

>>717160068
It's not. I was writing a story and decided to buy lad for a few bucks and was surprised how similar the stories feel, despite not having anything besides structure in common. Lad is full of mirrors. 0 did use the technique, too, but not as excessively as lad.

>>717160173
He's taking care of the orphanage, also Tatsuya Fujiwara already had 2 appearance for RGG, don't know if he's gonna called back to reprise Yuta again

>>717160139
>That's what I had in mind when critizing the skills.
It takes a long time to get to that point, and even when you do you have to know what is actually good. Plus, double damage helps a lot with the harder fights over spamming debuffs because you can just Substitution Jutsu into a double damage single target and repeat over and over.
>Adachi has high def, even as host
He's better than in 7 but he serves no purpose because AGI is still king in the games so he's still the worst party member to be using. For every one attack Adachi gets literally anyone else could have done two or more, and Host is middle-of-the-road since you can just take the rose from it for the other guys who can just be in Aquanaut or Nanba in Host anyway.

>>717160361
>He's taking care of the orphanage
And yet we didn't see him in the orphanage scenes after 6 either. She's starting to look like a single mother, just show some guy with her from behind, it's weird

>>717160369
I know. In this game I did the numbers and linebacker seems like the perfect class for adachi. Almost doubles his ago, too. In both games he has abysmal stats, for whatever reason. Seems that the high def and high hp combo is considered op by the devs. Crit builds are op, esp as magic can crit, too. Once again Zhao and han are the strongest, with the exception of the leaders.
While we are at it, its painful to watch kiryu hanging out with ichiban's friends.

>>717160508
>Once again Zhao and han are the strongest
Actually, the best team is Ichiban/Kiryu/Saeko/Seonhee or Chitose. Zhao isn't worth it at all because Kiryu can do everything he can but better since he has access to Essence of the Dragon God (One of the only two all-team Essences) and Han is mostly outdone by Saeko and Seonhee having Substitution Jutsu. Kiryu and Ichiban just make every other male irrelevant unless you really want to force a team comp, but getting rid of even one woman means less damage overall due to no Substitution Jutsu. SJ is so broken. Saeko also has access to a defense ignoring job in Barmaid paired with Jewel Breaker which does insane damage, so when you're not spamming SJ you're casually dealing like 1600-3000 damage. If SJ didn't exist I think Han would have more reason to be used and the best party would probably shift to Ichiban/Kiryu/Han/Seonhee.

>>717148376
I liked the school substory more than the main plot (which I thought was fine too, had it's moments for sure)
LJ should've just been full on Great Teacher Onizuka, Yagami talking to Amasawa (best girl by the way) about how he dropped out of school as a kid and never experienced all this school club shit he's doing and how it's unexpectedly pretty enjoyable for him was the most human he felt in that whole game

>>717159802
4 didn't need Kiryu playable, he could've been there as an NPC. Ending Kiryu's story at 2 or 3 would've been fine.

>>717150937
He was reborn as Haruka's husband

>>717161226
>I liked the school substory
shit personafags say

>>717159662
>"Sex trafficking is actually good and anyone opposed to it is just racist"
Nah it was that there are some good people trying to just get by even in the dregs of society who get forgotten about. I don't like what happens with Itchybum in 8 but in 7 he was fine.

>>717161334
/v/ gaslighted me into giving Persona 5 a go, constantly saying "even if you don't normally like JRPGs you'll love this one!" at the time, it fucking sucked just like 3 which you shits said was good as well
LJ didn't have the same vibe or feel at all either

I want to T Set

>>717156735
sawa-sensei, whatever happened there

>>717163430
Sawa-sensei MY ASS!

>>717129590
Stranger Than Heaven seems much more brutal than usual so maybe Nagoshi-less RGG Studios is more open to it
I don't want a Kazama game though, you just know his story will be absolutely retarded

>stranger of paradise comes out
>the mystery protagonist is revealed to be Akiyama who changes his appearance in the end of the game
Think about it. It makes sense

>>717158971
I liked Saeko in 7. Her and Ichiban's relationship in 8 was odd though.

>>717163590
Saeko is just a vessel for female self-inserters (if you know what I mean). Bog standard woman

>>717163690
I'd insert myself in Saeko alright

whens project century coming out brehs?

>>717151767
Based Moose.
What do you think of project century or stranger than heaven?
1940s Sotenbori looks fun.

>>717164580
Next year. I hope they have the option to pay to play it early again like the ishin remake.

>>717165209
>I hope they have the option to pay to play it early
Absolutely buckbroken by big corpo cock...

>>717165334
Dont care. RGG, Fromsoftware and Kojima are the only ones making fun games. I will financially support them to continue what they are doing. Stop being poor

>>717165412
Based

>>717160361
>He's taking care of the orphanage
The orphanage that is revealed in 7G to have literally no children in it besides Haruto? Kiryu left the kids alone all the time, now they're all in their 20s and Yuta can't leave them for a couple days?

>>717165059
I think it looks okay but I'm reserving my judgement for it for now. The concept seems interesting but the combat footage they've shown looks a bit all over the place in how it works.

>still haven't played yakuza ishin infinite wealth gaiden or lost judgement because sega is still paying denuvo for all these games
fuck's sake, how cheap are they

>>717166427
https://isthereanydeal.com/
Ishin Kiwami right now is $13 on GMG.
https://isthereanydeal.com/game/like-a-dragon-ishin/info/
7G is $15 on GMG.
https://isthereanydeal.com/game/like-a-dragon-gaiden-the-man-who-erased-his-name/info/
8 is $25 on GMG.
https://isthereanydeal.com/game/like-a-dragon-infinite-wealth/info/
LJ is $17 on GMG but the DLC is fully priced.
https://isthereanydeal.com/game/lost-judgment/info/

>>717165412
Option to play games "early" is just an additional price you pay to play the game on its actual launch. It's not early access is it, the game is shipped, it's the launch and you need to pay extra to play on launch. Fuck anyone enabling this Jewish behavior

>>717166516
If I buy it now, it means sega was right to contract denuvo
I refuse to give them that satisfaction

My dad is retiring soon. Should I introduce him to Yakuza series? He's not a gamer, only game he's ever played was Gran Turismo.
Kinda worried he might think I'm a weirdo or sexual deviant since Yakuza games reference japanese otaku culture and are full of weird sexual themes, like the Walking Erection guy in 0.
His English is also pretty shit after decades of not using it at all.

>>717166778
Introduce him to his grandchildren, that's all he wants

>>717166382
You're reserving your what for it?

>>717166809
Not happening. I'm a raging misogynist and I hate kids.

>>717150821
Mine was at the funeral thing they made. Ryuji is the one that is definitely alive.

>>717122301
He can't even raise his daughter properly. Teen pregnancy and all that. So go figure.

>>717148527
>It's ok when women use violence against men, killing them even

>>717166516
Gmg?
>>717166427
Sega is yakuza, what do you expect?

>>717163690
And for simps.
>>717163590
Ichiban is the example of flanderization. From hero to zero within one game.

>>717170372
Green Man Gaming. GMG, Fanatical, and Humble Bundle are the big boys in terms of official key resellers. They're the guys who are above board and your keys won't get hit with a removal or chargeback because they're officially licensed by Steam or GOG, places like that. With CDKeys and G2A you might get better deals but there's always a chance the key you got was gotten through illicit means like stolen credit cards or a suspect account leading to the game being taken away.

>>717170416
>From hero to zero within one game
But he was already a zero in 7. Ichi's character doesn't work if he's not a loser. It's just part of his identity. Like Nanba will always have a bum vibe

I want a Like a Dragon: Black game featuring Gary Buster Holmes, Mack Shinozuka, and Mitsuo.

>>717171715
honestly wouldn't mind black Chitose, she seems like a sweet girl.

Im glad the series is dead/dying. They had no idea what they were doing with it after 6 and keeps pissing on the old games by bringing dead characters back. Sad Judgement has to share the same fate.

>>717172470
>Im glad the series is dead/dying. They had no idea what they were doing with it after
0
6 is dogshit

>>717172470
>after 6
you mean 4

>>717122235
>>717121081 (OP)

I’ve played the Yakuza, 0, 1. 2, 3 , and got bored during 4. Is there a modern one I can just jump into?

Which one is OP pic and this? >>717122235

>>717163489
that cocksucking piece of shit RK's leader, i can't even say his name, murderer sawa-sensei

>>717172926
7 and Gaiden, respectively.

>>717170942
>gmg
They are a thing? Aren't they like 100 years old?

>introduce new main because the previous one is getting too old
>dude is in his mid 40s by his second game
high iq move

>>717170942
>leading to the game being taken away.
Steam and the other platforms don't ban accounts for this, just remove the game in question?

>>717171186
>nanba
Why exactly did he turn homeless within 24h? It's idiotic. He's character could've worked, sure. Just not the very same as in lad. They could've made him for a trilogy or a quadrology and wrap him up for good, instead of dragging grampas to the battlefield.

>>717171862
>black chitose
One of the few chuckle worthy moments.

what went wrong?

>>717173458
Steam specifically removes the game from your account, it's not an account ban because you're not really at fault here. You'll get a popup randomly that says it was removed from your account. I had it happen with the Ratatan Kickstarter alpha when we got that and I know people have said that's how it works for normal games that have been taken away.

I can't speak for consoles though, I think they might remove the game from your account ala Concord but I've never really heard of people buying third-party keys outside of Xbox where they fully ban your account for region switching. Back during the 360 era if you abused free games on the Argentinian storefront (Pricing errors were a regular occurrence there) your main account would get a permaban, I saw it happen with some people when it came to one of the Ghostbusters Arcade games.

here's your patriarch, bro.

>>717170942
just pirate at that point

>>717173681
Eceleb garbage
Added yakuza 7 characters to the plot
Wood chopping minigame only goes to 100.

>>717121081 (OP)
sorry mate I am white being a yakuzah is made for you yellows

>>717173765
I'm not risking it for few bucks, but it's good to see that they don't misuse the power the have.

>>717174240
>added characters
Lad? Like ichiban?

Is like a pirate good? Gameplaywise at least

>>717174852
story and cast are good. everything else is ok, not great.

i just cant bring myself to play yakuza 8, i have some 30 hours on it and it has some good meat like the dondoko island or the dungeon, but its so fucking tedious and the story so fucking meh, that it just becomes unbearable after a certain point.

>>717175405
>that Joongi replacement for the serial killer

lmao

>>717175405
what the fuck is this shit, lol???
OG ones at least TRY to look like they're part of the setting with proper hairstyles and all. the replacement ones use retarded haircuts you could only ever get in modern day.

>>717175606
Can't stop the puke
>>717175405
Disgusting

>>717172926
5

>>717175405
why's the korean pretty boy put in the role of a sadistic criminal meant to cause horror and disgust?
are the japs who made this racist against korea men?

>>717173421
>noooo he only has 25 more years until he's no longer viable
Think how old YOU will be at that point and wonder why you care about Ichi

>>717176089
Considering how long it takes for games to come out now days, i say Ichi only has good 3-4 games under his belt.

>>717175124
It gets better later on because the story focuses more on Japan. Hawaiian shit remains very silly

>>717175580
He also sticks out like a sore thumb. Changing Kondo for Adachi was a terrible idea and while I love Adachi's performance I still think the OG is better, and Shibusawa for Takechi was beyond stupid. Mabuchi and Zhao also stick out way too much compared to Yahata and Baba.

The biggest issue is they used the original animation rigging so you get horrific stuff like this.

>>717176182
Kiryu in Yakuza 3 is the same age as current Ichiban and he's still playable in the latest mainline game.

>>717147518
He had a bit of backstory in Dead Souls. Nothing stated explicitly, but you could infer some things. For example he came from a poor/abusive household where food wasn't always on the table. He gets pretty mad about throwing away perfectly good food. His character models also support it. In 1985 his face is more sunken and he's skinnier, he only got ripped later in life.
The flashback scenes in 4 show him saying that he has no family, and he isn't orphaned or it'd be brought up for the sake of similarity with Kiryu. Means he ran away from home and doesn't consider his parents to be worthy of calling family. If you consider 0 a valid addition to the story, then you see Sagawa being his first proper father figure.

>>717176453
Which is bad. Kiryu is a gramps.
>finale
Just right before the last fight. How come the half brother of a certain playable character is as strong as kiryu + team?

>>717176453
Should have retired after 6.

>>717176717
You can ask that about every last boss. Realistically none of them should be a serious threat to Kiryu except for 1 and 2 I guess

>>717176717
Kiryu's old and cancer ridden when he's fighting Ebina. Even before that they already pulled the plot demands strong antagonist with prime Kiryu getting the closest fight of his life against literal who Aizawa in Y5

>>717176739
Wouldn't surprise me if the next mainline game has the Jima brothers miraculously finding the Ambergris and getting Kiryu back on his feet to drag him back into future entries again

>>717177296
>Kiryu's old and cancer ridden when he's fighting Ebina
The real question is why Chinaman and Koreawoman couldn't put him down in two hits, they were on Kiryu's team and are supposed to be some of the strongest around. Meanwhile Ebina is just some guy

What does the series mean by this?

>>717177424
Zhao's just a guy who was trained in traditional Chinese sword fighting growing up, but there's no reason why Seonhee wouldn't be destroying Ebina. She's a professionally trained Jingweon assassin with years and years of training doing so and heads an assassin hideout in the Geomijul. She absolutely has blood on her hands before she got kicked out of the Jingweon, there's no way she's not exceptionally good at her job.

>>717177550
he meant that literally. kiryu didn't physically touch those bloody and burnt corpses.

>>717177424
Ebina has Arakawa's sperm power.

>>717121081 (OP)
ME?

I'm calling it now.
Whatever shit that make villains from IW and Majima live longer is going to have something to do with Stranger Than Heaven's MC.
The game implies he is going to live throughout the 20th century

>>717177912
>The game implies he is going to live throughout the 20th century
I thought he's literally a time traveler?

>>717177958
Where would you even get that? He's shown at two points in his life, the second time he's visibly older.

>>717178164
>There are two confirmed settings: 1915 Japan and a glittering metropolis in 1943.
I could have sworn they showed something in the 2000s in the trailer but that's my bad.

>>717176739
After 3.
>>717176984
Mine? After mine it's really getting unbelievable. Here it's worst by far, as the three friends of ichib... I mean kiryu are also super strong lore wise. Who tf is the last boss anyway? Some nobody not only challenging kiryu, but also three guys additionally, each of them easily capable of beating 20 men in a fair fight. Party vs party would've been better.
>>717177296
It's true, aizawa was another literal who.
>what are you doing here aizawa?
Idk...?
>ambergris
What's that? I don't want to play as 75 year old kiryu.
>>717177673
>seonhee
Wasn't she a boss in y7? Or was it han? Anyway, she's at least near kiryu/ichiban levels.

Why did ichiban start level 1? I like to think that us gangsters pack more of a punch than tiny Japanese men and ichiban has to get used to it.

>>717178164
It's giving off 'too good to be true' vibes and we're expecting a gay supernatural twist.
>>717178310
iirc people surmised there are 2 more time periods.

Just bring Ryuji back already. Isn't he younger than Ichiban too? Such a waste of a character not being used. Keep cockteasing him in 8 and Gaiden, stop wasting more years, hes gonna turn at 60 at this point.

>>717178403
>>ambergris
>What's that?
The stuff Rodriguez’s old man threw away at the end of Pirate Yakuza is supposedly the elixir of life and can prolong lifespan. The ending hints that Saejima and Majima might be the ones hunting it down in the next LAD game to bring Kiryu back.

>>717178403
>Why did ichiban start level 1?
any RPG-mechanic related thing you can handwave it away as Ichiban's schizo-vision. Or Kiryu's brain damage in 8

>>717178310
can't blame you
this guy is too swag for the 60s japanese fashion

>>717178403
>After 3.
After playing through all of them up to 6 and reading qrds on dragon engine slop, the best ending for me would be Kiryu's death in 3, no fakeout this time. The whole setup for it is perfect too. He drags Haruka to Kamurocho one last time and she starts crying that this time he's going to die for real, he doesn't even try to deny it. Mine tells him this will be his last fight, and a kirin is the only thing that can strike down a dragon. Then he dies soapboxing to a guy whose life is ruined for good.

>>717178403
>What's that?
Throughout 8G's story they are looking for a great treasure that's implied to be monetary and something that leads to eternal life. For most of the game you are visiting Nele Island again and find out that Rodriguez, a Palekana member, had a father who led the religion several hundred years ago and said father is still alive and well in his home but basically shuffling around like a zombie. Throughout the story you find hints, and then the old man dropping a Piece of Eight causes Majima and co. to pivot to him being someone who knows what the treasure is. Throughout his home you see Bryce and him getting along and drinking tea, and you even get a cutscene of it.

Majima and co. find the major monetary treasure but it's not eternal life like was being implied through diaries and treasure maps. Later on Jason and Masaru (Two major character and friends of Majima) realize that various hints towards the treasure that would give you eternal life ended up being ambergris which is essentially vomit from a whale that they turned into tea and drank giving both the old man and Bryce unnatural lifespans.

The worry people have is that Masaru or Jason will have somehow told Majima this after the epilogue of 8G leading into 9 and Kiryu gets instantly better.

>>717178403
Just beat the game. The ending isn't as bad as I anticipated, but the story is non sensical and honestly, the worst so far. Beating the boss doesn't change shit storywise. He is still in charge of the clan and the disposal, so what gives?

>>717178728
I like 2, k2 and of course ryuji. Shame he died for nothing. Cool character.
>>717178735
Oh, boy. Is pirate worth a playthrough or even through ng+?
>>717178739
Bit boring, really.m, but it kinda is the ingame explanation. They increased the rpg elements, which I like. A better explanation would be great nonetheless.

>>717178824
Both dying would be great, but mine should've survived. Unfortunately no fan will ever allow this to happen.
>>717178897
I don't like this. Looked the substance up, it does exist. Isn't it the perfume base?

>>717179097
> Is pirate worth a playthrough
It’s a long tedius checklist: the coliseum fights, treasure hunting, and devil flag stuff get repetitive fast. You’ll probably enjoy it if you’re into completionist autism like me. You're not missing much if you skip it aside from the final cutscene but overall it’s a fun little side journey with Majima.

>>717179371
I see. So like gaiden give 9r take. Then I might play some metroidvania, still have deaths gambit and last faith to play. Maybe there were some new releases like the wolf one.

>>717179314
Mine didn't want to live anymore. Kirins leave the world during bad times, they're auspicious beasts that only thrive under the right conditions. Fickle and fragile like western unicorns.

>>717177912
>>717177958
>>717178164
Stranger Than Heaven was titled Project Century, there will definitely be a connection to modern day.

>>717180319
How many of the yen bills picked from the street by Akiyama had parts of minced Nishiki smeared on them?

>>717180319
I thought Hanawa's death broke that contract since on the surface nobody knows Kiryu has connections to the Daidoji

>>717179549
He was too simple, too pure for this world.

Haruka killed all those people in the bar for one scene, and that was never brought up ever again.

>>717180554
It was because of Hanawa that the Daidoji made an exception, letting Ichiban and his crew in on their operations and revealing Kiryu's identity. That’s how Chitose ended up exposing that he was alive on the Tatara Channel.
The Daidoji still have Kiryu on a leash, as long as Morning Glory’s around and he’s still useful to them.

>>717181101
It's ok when females do it.

>>717181101
>9 happens.
>Jingweon break into the orphanage.
>Kiryu and Yuta wake up to Haruka surrounded by 50 bodies and Haruto next to her.

>>717180319
That would be too kino for Jarpig Yakuzas. Shishido will never ever be mentioned again

>>717181114
>Morning Glory
Aren't all of them adults now?

>>717182417
Yeah it's essentially a dorm full of adults who can't find a job and move out

>>717182302
>Shishido will never ever be mentioned again
Kinda has to be considering both he and Nishitani III are still around and now official Daidoji officers.

>>717182302
Yoshimura kidnapping him at the end of Gaiden 7 is just setting up Shishido to show up later as a Daidoji agent

>>717182417
They're still under surveillance and it was revealed that Morning Glory is still financially sustained by the Daidoji.

>>717182417
>>717182532
>>717182662
>Yakuza 10 is about all the Morning Glory kids saving Kiryu from the Daidoji secret warehouse

>>717182840
>Kiryu can't do it anymore and collapses to his knees.
>Firefighter Taichi Taichi Kicks the Daidoji officers down to rescue him as the rest of his firefighter buddies beat everyone up.
>Kiryu asks how they knew where to look for him.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN-OJoj7meQ

Imagine a Yakuza timeline where Morning Glory wasn’t there to chokehold Kiryu. Bro could’ve been doing black ops shit with Kazama’s CIA brother and putting a ring on Kaoru in America.

>>717179097
Hes not dead. Hes the only character that didnt appear at the RGG funeral ( of the main antags, Nishiki, Mine etc ) and he was teased to be out there in 8 and Gaiden.

>damn kiryu is old
>Born on June 17, 1968
>was only 20 in 1988
guys.... 80s were so long ago.... ;_;

>>717182551
>>717182662
Are you guys actually that optimistic or do you just like to argue? No way in hell will they appear again. Most villains don't, even when they're still around

>>717183621
That would explain the substories and was mentioned in gaiden iirc.

There was a scene in DEAD SOULS of all games, where Kiryu straight up called two goons to ram trucks through a barricade for him. He has never done anything like that ever, and showed you how much weight the title Dragon of Dojima has, which is why I've always liked the games/scenes where Kiryu is ACTUALLY part of the Yakuza.

>>717126070
>I'm not so sure myself.
Elder god tier.

>>717183909
Wtf. Rgg lied to us.

why doesn't Kiryu just walk into the Diadoji HQ and just beat everyone up now instead of waiting for it to happen in Y9 or whatever

>>717183990
I'm optimistic enough considering they'd have zero reason to set either of those things up otherwise, same with Ogikubo's granddaughter. The Hanawa stuff can be written off as them writing it at the same time as 8 and 8 was already nearing the end when they were in the middle of 7G if I remember right so they likely couldn't pivot things to make 7G make sense to 8. Hell, now Akame is basically Sotenbori's Florist so I'd be surprised if we don't see her again regardless if it's Summer Umika considering she seems to love Yakuza as a series in general.

>>717126070
literal shit tier writing of someone who doesn't write nor keep an ending in mind beforehand. he just start and then keeps writing as he goes without anything else. absolutely retarded.

>>717178728
they already retconned his death in dead souls

>>717184379
He has spent six months in recovery so far and is still seemingly bedridden so it's kind of off the table unless you plan for wheelchair-fu.

>>717173681
Not being the 5-0 engine but a crude recreation of it in a blatantly worse UE.
Should have just made a direct port.

>>717184379
Daidoji agents are armed with cancer bullets

>>717184379
Kiryu made a deal with a CIA level threat that he couldn’t just brute force his way out of

>>717184556
Alternate timeline. Kenzan and Ishin are main timeline.

>>717184571
>wheelchair-fu.

you thats gonna happen

>>717180319
Senzu beans dont work on diseases retardbro

If they truly decide to end Kiryu I would like to know a bit more about his biological family and an alternate timeline where Kiryu avoided the underworld and became a Salaryman

>>717121081 (OP)

Honestly we should let the current cast retire and just have new people.

>>717184784
The old cast is mostly permanently retired (aside from Saejima or Majima having any real impact on the main story) and are reduced to cameos like Date, Kaoru, and Akiyama.

>>717185075
Akiyama's sort of a unique case since he's been kept in the background but is otherwise still able to do stuff and in RGGO he was Ichiban's party member so maybe they'll reuse that story beat in 9 or 10 if he doesn't get a Singapore Gaiden to himself.

>>717184784
they did that, but then brought back the old cast anyways in IW

>>717184784
this>>717185265

i was happy with ichiban shenanigans, if anything i think they made the mistake of making him too old, by the end of infinite wealth he is already approaching his 50

>>717184117
Imagine how great the games could've been, if all the main titles stories were done in one go, instead of this incremental approach we have.

>>717184475
>you are wrong here, you have to go... OVERTHERE!
It really shows in yakuza iw.

>>717184621
there are no problems that can't be solved by punching dudes

Iw ending is comically bad. Is the writing in pirates better?

>>717186634
slightly

>>717186634
I'd say the writing is about as good as Kiryu's part overall.
Majima feels like 4's or flashback 5's Majima overall and it's really refreshing.
Noah is great and genuinely does not give a damn about danger, it's fun.
Masaru and Jason are fine, Masaru's a goofball and Jason is a stoic man.
Nishida and Minami get some development though they have to share it since they're grouped together.
The final boss is there for a decent amount of the story but it still doesn't feel like enough personally. They just didn't "feel" like a good final boss overall and more like someone subbing in for the hell of it.
The main antagonists for most of the game were neither here nor there. They're not bad but they're not great either.
Substories are very solid overall and are the most consistently good ones in a while.

>>717175405
yikes glad i know japanese and emulated the real Ishin

>>717186743
Sigh
>>717186938
>>717186938
>The main antagonists for most of the game were neither here nor there. They're not bad but they're not great either.
I might wait until I get it for 20. Paid as much for iw.
>Substories are very solid overall and are the most consistently good ones in a while.
I liked the ones in 7. Not perfect, but okish. I skipped 90% of the sub stories in iw.

>>717186634
Ichiban helps eichan. Completely out of character. He spent 18 years talking to nearly no one, now he carries the pseudo cripple through Tokyo while emotional music plays and first aid rushes to kiryu. It's so tiring.

>>717186938
Naomi got a slap on the wrist after threatening her own family and letting Michelle fire on her brother and father while they were on Majima’s ship threw me off so bad that it made Ichiban forgiving Eiji look like god tier writing in comparison

>>717187186
so far the only 2 sub stories i have liked on iw have been the dude with his wife and the Japanese tourist with the Hawaiian girl (mostly because she is beautiful), but yah a lot of them feel like filler.

>>717187359
I'm genuinely curious what kind of character you think Ichiban is if you think that's "completely out of character" for him

>>717186938
>Noah is great
It's the same shit that happened to God of War becoming the gaymer dad babysitting simulator. Even japs are mad that the kid exists only to prevent Majima from doing anything too edgy and raunchy.

>>717187359
It was a good scene until he randomly started taking a beating and smiling like a little bitch. Wtf was that, if someone is beating you, you have a license to fuck them up which is what Ichi did many times in the game. Why did he get his ass kicked in the endling

>>717187420
>been the dude with his wife
That was ok
>hawaii girl scams for her loved obes
It's a low bar, but she's cute alright. It's true that ichiban helping her and therefore the Japanese guy by beating up the gangsters felt rewarding.
The substories in yakuza are a joke, as they are completely decoupled form the story. I dislike level scaling, but here it would be a good addition, because fighting one level 17 guy with 4 level 39 guys is just a waste of time.
>>717187441
He didn't even care when adachi helped him and even waited for him. Ichiban can be very selfish. It's likely so that he didn't talk with anyone in prison, safe for the one warden. He was nearly 20 years in prison. I find that pretty much anyone in iw is out of character. It feels like a gaiden hawaii bonus episode that's not canon. It's much worse than 4 or 5.

>>717187965
But Yakuza always was an old man and a kid kind of game

>>717187965
What are you saying, devs following a boring trend or majima is insane?

>>717187994
Ichiban, the guy that took down a world class boxer with his friends, doesn't have much problems with guns and blades, gets wrecked by a tiny teenager and smiles like a deranged lunatic. Suddenly he's jesus or some weird pacifist.
>scene works fine
It does. I feel it's forced that ichiban suddenly likes eichan that much. Kiryu for some reason did use his real name and no one bats an eye. Everything in iw is full of these inconsistencies. Iw feels much more like a game, compared to 7. 7 felt like a true Japanese gangster drama with k drama elements.

>>717188084
Part of why 0 and 2 are better than the others is because Haruka doesn't exist in 0 and in 2 she fucks off and lets Kiryu go on about his business.

>>717188015
Why are you still using his prison stint as justification to complain about a scene that takes place 6 years after he got out
If 25 years didn't break Saejima as a person why would 18 break Ichiban

>>717188015
>Ichiban can be very selfish
Ichiban has every reason to doubt Adachi since Adachi’s a cop and he’s been kept in the dark about the world after getting out of prison.
I mean he even forgave Arakawa for putting him in the can for 20 years over another man’s child, and that same guy even shot his own son in the chest for his own benefit.

>>717188015
i also remember another one, the one with the director that like action scenes, the way he yells “CUUUUTHO!!!” send my in hysterical laughter

>>717188394
We love Haruka around here

>>717188678
she hit the wall in y5

>>717188732
and a car in y6

>>717188780
and a chinese thug

>>717188732
Post-wall Haruker is fine too

Is this really what fujos want? I was told this is a fujo series

>>717188908
she looks like mirei park but more retarded

>>717188394
Not the only reason, but yeah, 2 is awesome.
>>717188456
Not saying prison broke him. On the contrary, there's no indication for it.
>Why are you still using his prison stint as justification
I'm comparing him to 7.im not ichiban, I can only argue out of character compared to 7.
>>717188549
This child is his brother and waka.
>>717188656
Right, that was good. However reminds me of 0. The director substory was good, too.

>>717188306
>I feel it's forced that ichiban suddenly likes eichan that much
What do you mean suddenly, he was always on his side. Even when he was trying to kill Chisato he was still trying to reform him. They've spent one magical day together and that was enough for Ichi

>>717189015
She does look retarded

>>717189127
Girls are the cutest when they look retarded

>>717188994
i hate seeko as a partner for ichiban, my boy deserves something better.

>>717188908
holy shit, her eyes look like that of a demon

>>717189178
Truth in that
>>717189210
There was no indication for this in 7, he had 6 women iirc, saeko wasn't one of them.

>>717189015
>brought back a dude who we watched get literally shot in the forehead
>won't bring back majima's ex-wife who died offscreen

>>717188994
humiliation ritual.
no woman in her right mind is actually attracted to the type of desperate "love" display they made this retard show off.
writers are playing him off as nothing more but a worthless joke character no one should truly ever take seriously.

>>717189178
Is this 6?

>>717189309
his whole life is a humiliation ritual

>>717189051
>This child is his brother and waka.
>after you treated me like shit my entire life... I still treat you like my brother waka....
lmao I cringed so hard when he kept screaming at him like I love you, fuck that shit

>>717189178
could they really not bother making her look more like an adult? it just feels like they scaled up a toddler's face to adult standards, put over a randomly generated bad haircut that doesn't even fit then plopped it down onto a somewhat developed woman's body then just went at it.

>>717189309
When Nagoshi left he brought the only real courting experience on the team with him and you can really tell

>>717189418
8, you see her for like 10 seconds

>>717189432
lmfao what the fuck why is there a condom on his head? who raped him???

>>717189418
8 she is show in the finale for "reasons"
>>717189309
i like it, because it shows how fucking autistic ichiban is and whoever love him will have to deal with his retardation and truly love him for what he is

>>717189432
Used condom, it's so disgraceful. Hero of yokohama and trillionaire yen business leader. What happened there? I swear yakuza protags can't hold money for a year, no matter how much they earned. Gambling addicts.

Yakuza 9 trailer has Nishiki in prosthetic limbs visiting Kitty in the hospital

>>717189451
>scaled up a toddler's face
yep that's an asian woman

>>717189532
me

>>717189707
nanba..

>>717189707
i don’t remember that scene

>>717189707
>>717189532

>>717189442
I mean, I get the scene and that he considers them family. It's cringe or at least cringe kino. Aoki should've survive the hit and be bound in his wheelchair again.
>>717189510
When? Ending? >>717189536 I see, everyone shows for a few secosns
Awesome, really. I wonder when iw's story was doomed? Right at the start or months after development began? I once read they only worked one and half a year on it.

>>717188908
isnt it sad that Kiryu was seperated from his family all that time when he could just have taken the Daidoji bribe instead?

Adachi is such a bland boring shit, he has everything going for him including a great VA but somehow ends up being upstaged by Nanba. And then also by American Nanba in 8

>>717190034
He didn't seem to mind his kids squatting on a piece of land wanted by two domestic ministries, CIA, Triads and several local crime groups. It's like those parents who won't move even as their neighborhood turns blacker and more criminal.

>>717190397
because adachi story happens off-screen while nanba one is tight to the plot.

>>717190397
Tomi and chitose yellow are the worst characters in the universe

>>717190558
Neither of them have a strong story in 8 but I still liked Nanba more. Nanba-Kiryu combo was surprisingly good in terms of banter

>>717190648
Chitose is a cutie so it doesn't matter that the entirety of Barracuda had their way with her. She still has a tight tummy

>>717190710
8 propelled Nanba to the moon as a character. He was awful the whole way in 7 including in the redemption bit but 8 makes him so good to both Ichiban and Kiryu.

>>717190710
i through we were talking about 7, im still im chapter 6 in iw so no idea how they go on there

>>717190803
>She still has a tight tummy
True

>>717177912
I have a feeling they had that idea but canceled it, down-scaled the project, and turned it into an update for LaD online
There was this leak, and it was also kinda weird that LaD online had a short 3D cinematic teaser with a clip of Ryuji riding a motorcycle.

>>717127623
>joins
>beats people up
>you wanna keep doing this right?
>nah I'll go back to my hag gf bye lol have fun fighting on top of towers and fighting 800 men
Shinada was the biggest fucking chad in the entire Yakuza series

>>717190925
That exact Ryuji model is used as a gag in a Gaiden substory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNCm9RC6hAU

HOW did Chitose have access to her youtube account at the end of 8? If the villains were retarded enough not to revoke her access, WHY didn't she delete the fake news videos they were uploading?

>>717191183
It's not exact same, the one from the leak has an weird ass beta model shirt, tight jeans and boots.
It's possible they finalized the model to make fake Ryuji though.

playing judgment again for the first time since it came out
what the fuck were they thinking giving crane basically no upgrades? I can't understand how it got all the way through development without anyone asking what reason there was to use it.
Amane is the best date option btw

>>717191858
>what reason there was to use it
It's cool as shit

>>717190397
>Adachi
Paladin's pal.

>>717190897
Tummy tight, rest unbearable. Rich girl scum. Rgg nailed her though. Heiress' do behave like that. Mentally ill (the latter two were auto fill)

I played through the entire fucking series including the PS2 games and below are my top 5 in no particular order.

1. Yakuza 2 (PS2) & Kiwami 2
>They're a package deal. Y2 was the game that really cemented the franchise for me. First game was still great.

2. Judgement
>Lost Judgement can eat a dick. Sure it had better combat, but god damn was the story a letdown. I love how this game got me to engage with Kamurocho to the point where it felt like home moreso than any other title.

3. Yakuza 0
>I hate how much I enjoy this game. It's not perfect by any stretch and has a PLETHORA of issues, but it's still worth playing.

4. Yakuza 4
>Favorite version of Kamurocho. After coming off of Yakuza 3, this game felt next gen.

5. Like a Dragon
>I don't want to recommend this, but truth be told I had a good time. I think the RPG setting really suited Ijincho more than Lost Judgement. And the story was its own thing yet rewarded those that stuck with the entire franchise.

>>717191360
See>>717193253
>Mentally ill

I wish there were an in-game choice to banish Chitose from your party after finding out she betrayed you, giving you a completely different ending.

>>717193491
>this game's great but i wish ichiban were more of an asshole

>>717193290
Really? I like 2 the best, one of the best sequels in gaming. K2>>k1.
Haven't played judgment, I'd say 2, 0, 7 and then lj.
I do get your points for yakuza 4, it doea feel like an upgrade, but it has ultra heavy weight issues. I played it in 2024, so there's no nostalgia glasses for me.

What do you guys like better in 7 than in 8? What's worse in 8 than in 7?
Which game is more difficult (normal/legend) 7 or 8?

>>717193491
hmm but the feet jobs

>>717193491
i wish there was a sex scene with chitose

>>717193621
asshole protags are WAY better than goodboy golden retriever ones

>>717193491
Unfortunately they don't do that. It's linear af. I despise chitose and tomi thst much, that I leave them with starter gear and only use them for guard or toughness toss. Curious if I can beat legend with a party of two.

>>717193290
I played all of them except for Ishin and Pirate and I say
>great tier
2, 5, 0, 6, J, LJ, 7, 8
>good tier
1, 3, DS, 7G
>meh tier
Kenzan, 4, PSP1, PSP2,

8 had a horrible story but I still enjoyed the game a lot. DS is way overhated, it's FUN

>>717189432
our hero, the face of the franchise everyone!

>>717193914
begs the question of why you'd play japanese soap opera games to begin with instead of western crpgs or something

BRING
HIM
BACK
but with his original voice actor and not the one from the second game

>>717194183
Implying there are a plethora of good wrpg to choose from.

>>717194270
they do give you the option to be a disgruntled asshole that holds a grudge against everyone though. or you could play tabletop IRL and play a murder hobo character

>>717193914
Ichi is so nice that he kind of defies the stereotypes. Your normal "kind" MC still ends up doing the power of friendship speech and beats the villain allowing him no redemption. Ichi goes way beyond that, even Kenshin isn't so nice, even he snaps once in a while. Not Ichi though, he's fully committed

>>717194430
to be fair, there hasn’t been an asshole terrible enough to make ichi snap

>>717194347
Almost all wrpg are shit. Already played the good ones, that leaves me with saying infinite wealth.

>>717121081 (OP)
Too late Daigo, too late. Kamurocho is full with niggers and jeets.

>>717194640
you hate almost all wrpgs, you presumably at least dislike almost all jrpgs if you hate goody two shoes protagonists, what DO you like?

>>717193634
>>717193634
>Really? I like 2 the best, one of the best sequels in gaming. K2>>k1.
Compltely agree. Kiwami 1 was such a letdown for me and that's speaking as someone that played the PS2 original. I would literally pick the original every day of the week.
>I played it in 2024, so there's no nostalgia glasses for me.
I played the entire franchise from December 2024 - June 2025. I played in release order so that heavily affected my rankings.
>What do you guys like better in 7 than in 8?
I think the story, tone, and characters were all written better. It just felt like a fantastic new start into the franchise and that was necessary after Judgement (which I still love).
>What's worse in 8 than in 7?
Story by far, and the characters pissed me off. Especially Ichiban who seems neutered compared to his prior appearance.
>Which game is more difficult (normal/legend) 7 or 8?
7 was by far the most difficult Yakuza game I played. It was atrociously paced near the end and necessitated hours of grinding. 8 was relatively breezy the entire way through, and the gameplay was soooooooooo much better.

Honorable Mention for my No. 6 spot is the Kaito Files. Absolutely incredible. Truly truly wonderful title.

>>717193290
now do the 3 worst

>>717194863
>Absolutely incredible. Truly truly wonderful title
Why? The story is just cloned from Yakuza 1 and the gameplay is barebones. Why is that DLC so overwanked

>>717195029
8,4,5 (storywise; 8 is the worst)

>>717195045
Because it did a lot of things right that Lost Judgement didn't deliver on.
>Very focused story. Short yet, but never once did it feel like it didn't know where it was going.
>Kaito's combat styles were some of the most enjoyable on offer. He felt like a fucking tank which was a nice contrast to Yagami.
>It shed new light on Kaito and gave him some serious depth.
>It played up the detective stuff more than Lost Judgement.
>The music was sick.
>It was focused on Kamurocho whereas Lost Judgement felt fucking ashamed of that area.
>It was the only title I played with a legitimately happy ending.

Lost Judgement left such a bad taste in my mouth, and this title rectified all my major gripes.

>>717194863
>Honorable Mention for my No. 6 spot is the Kaito Files. Absolutely incredible. Truly truly wonderful title.
What? How? It's so rushed, the major villain is built up for all of like 5 minutes, Tank is just Beast with NPC moves, Bruiser is just Brawler with NPC moves, the only new content added is related to Kaito's senses which itself is just the drone and dog reworked, and they literally make you go through the worse tailing mission from JE but make it even longer.

Worst of all is that Kaito doesn't act like Kaito. He acts identical to Yagami when actually investigating stuff and it ruins those segments because he acts like a completely different person than anything presented in either JE or LJ with him noticing random stuff he never would in either game. It was obscene to charge $40 for that entire pack let alone $30 for it alone. I even did all the minigames (Batting Center max ranks and all UFO catcher items) just to try and get any value out of it at all. 100% even with that was like three hours.

>>717195684
>never once did it feel like it didn't know where it was going
Yeah, it's just a clone of Yakuza 1, even I knew where it was going. That's kind of the problem. Do people not notice that it's literally the same story or what?
>rehashed Kamurocho as a positive
Now you're sounding like a marketeer

>>717195915
>>717195045
You're forgetting the absolute kinography of the true final boss

>>717195029
Sooooo easy. In no particular order it goes

1. Lost Judgement
>It's baffling that I consider Judgement to be fucking incredible but this title was just an exercise in frustration. Keep in mind, ALL of my issues are because of story and pacing. Gameplay itself is fine, but locking almost all the side content behind the School was a kick in the dick. Robot club can eat shit.

2. Yakuza 3
>My issues are almost entirely gameplay based. It just didn't quite feel right, with Kiryu being able to execute five 360 degree turns in 1 second. Going from the PS2 title to this was a treat though. Truth be told I still like this title.

3. Kiwami 1
>This title can eat a double decker shit sandwich. Just fucking pissed me off. It's a game that only becomes enjoyable once the combat opens up and that takes so goddamn long. Also this title had THE WORST BOSSES in the franchise. I remember the Swat Team being bad, but this was atrocious.

Most underrated title would go to "Man Who Erased His Name". I think by itself is a GREAT and focused entry (so needed after Lost Judgement), but when paired with Yakuza 6 as a one-two punch it's elevated it kino status.

>>717194836
I don't hate a goody two shoe per se. I just dislike ichiban in 8 for the most part. In 7 he was awesome. He had growth in 7. It's like he starts anew in 8, for no reason whatsoever.

>>717196293
Sure, he was a great final boss but that doesn't excuse the 15 minute long tailing mission that I already hated in JE that you just made extra long with that cutscene in the middle for no reason, two borderline reused styles, no new side content that wasn't already in the base game, or the story feeling rushed despite being so short. It's insane how the batting center is even 1:1 on every single course, they couldn't even change that. The student of Amon fight was my favorite part outside of the final boss.

>>717195915
>>717195942
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think you're underestimating how much I despised Lost Judgement near the end. That open mindset probably created a nostalgia attachment, but I'm still standing by it lol.

>>717194863
>I think the story, tone, and characters were all written better
Very much so.
>fantastic start
A reboot, no less. There are plenty of parallels to yakuza 1, and it's awesome.
>What's worse in 8 than in 7?
Unfortunately I'm stupid, meant what's worse in 7 than in 8? 8 has bad writing and a non functional story.
>7's more difficult.
I feel so, too. I just played 8 and was overleveled fast. There's a tiny diffi2spike when kiryu comes to Japan, but tricky to gain 4 levels there, but after that it's easy af. I hope legend packs a punch, was certainly the case in 7 (legend).
I'm unsure if 7 is the most difficult yakuza, there were tricky parts in other games. I never healspammed, so maybe that's the thing. I beat lj without menu healing and without increasing the health bar on normal. That wasn't easy.
>kaito files
It's even 20 bucks on sale, haven't touched it. I hear only good things.

>>717195915
30 bucks for 3 hours, that's where gaming I headed.

>>717196370
LJ oscillates between great and horrible school stories
Fair enough if you don't like the school wrapper
>dance club is the best rhythm game since buyo dancing
>motorcycle club is unplayable dogshit
>boxing felt different enough from normal combat and had ok depth
>skateboarding is meh
>robotics club was easy to cheese but alright
>gambling and virtua fighter are fun
>talking to women is not fun
Comparing this stuff to the more recent big minigames knockoff animal crossing or mario kart, I'll take the 'Yagami after-school special' anyday

>>717196370
3 is weird because the plot is the dumbest in the whole series, but the characters are all pretty good, and retired dad was a good direction for Kiryu

>>717196370
Kiwami 3 could be the title that benefits most from a remaster. As you say, gameplay is the weak point of 3. Imagine k3 with the combat of lj.

>>717197114
It was the Majima/Saijima fight that stonewalled my enjoyment of Y7. In one moment my entire gameplay experience ground to a screeching halt, and then necessitated going into the Sotenbori dungeon over and over and over. Don't get me started on Kiryu fight. So much goddamn leveling near the end. Hours upon hours in that fucking dungeon beating down the homeless vagrant for mad job points. Also the leveling, good lord was it busted. Building out other jobs was necessary for the stat boosts because actually leveling your experience did JACK SHIT

Things I think 8 did better than 7 was the scale. I cannot get over how much there was to do. Also did a damn good job balancing the dual protagonist campaign. Having them paired up only to split them off was a good idea. And splitting the teams was also a good idea as it allowed me to pay attention to all of them rather than some. The job ability system was god tier in adaptability.

>>717197235
The ONLY problem with school stories is that you can't freely choose them, the game tells you what to play and when. Hate some but love others? FUCK YOU, play them all or get fucked. There's no reason for SIDE content to be like this, it's gay and retarded. I wanted to just do all the dance stuff all at once, why was I forced to sit through hours of nonsense to get to it

>>717197235
>3 is weird because the plot is the dumbest in the whole series
This shit was happening IRL at the same time. The whole deal with a new military base on Okinawa and various deals to revitalize Okinawa's economy.

Shimano should be the next character they randomly bring back from the dead to be a bartender

>>717197235
I managed to get through all the school mini-games but Robot Club. At that point I just gave up and focused on the main campaign. I think a lot of my complaints would be rectified if they just gave us more actual client stories with Yagami as the Professor story just never clicked.

>>717197224
I think I got it for next to nothing so all of my dicksucking is predecated on that. That title is worth 20 max.

>>717197387
Dude don't tease with Kiwami 3. There would be so much potential for it to skyrocket in my rankings.

Top 3 Most Underrated

1. Yakuza Black Panther
>Going from 4 to this was like revisiting the earlier titles in the best way. I had no idea how much I missed the fixed cameras till they were gone. Also this game made me realize that "any" game could be a Yakuza game. In this case, Def Jack Fight for NY.

2. Yakuza 6
>I wasn't in the best headspace for this the first go around, and there's significnatly less side content and no easy means of finding them in Onomichi, but it was so refreshing coming after Kiwami 1. It was a game that played so much better the second go around.

3. Yakuza 5
>For me it's underrated. It's not the highest in my list, but it's still a more than worthy entry. I think it handled the mini-game side content far better than Lost Judgement ever did. I spent countless hours playing the Taxi and doing the Hunting minigame. Also having 5 cities is still incredible to this day.

Kiryu is a fucking monster in 5/6. He goes on a straight warpath in both titles. I thought he was looking worn out at the start of 5, but apparently he was just resting up.

>>717151767
Moose sweeping for bad jap writing as usual

>>717197682
>and then necessitated going into the Sotenbori dungeon over and over and over. Don't get me started on Kiryu fight. So much goddamn leveling near the end.
What? How? If you walk into the Battle Dungeon getting to the top floor with maybe one or two extra runs of the last five floors takes you all the way to clearing the FMT. How did you have to grind at all past M&S? You become way overleveled for all the content after it because it drops you at like the 45-50 range and the story alone will take you to the mid 50s.

>>717198370
>Yakuza 6
Still the most realistic "digital tourism" in the series

>>717198370
>Dude don't tease with Kiwami 3. There would be so much potential for it to skyrocket in my rankings.
Rubber head in rubber briefcase.

>>717198679
I'll be honest, I likely overleveled because I wanted to fucking crush them. The second I got to a comfortable spot, I steamrolled everything until the final boss. I had maxed jobs on basically everyone, and leveled the shit out of Freelancer for those sweet attack bonuses. I probably triviliazed a decent amount, but I was go goddamn frustrated I wanted to destroy them.

>>717160235
Lmao they already did that somewhat with some characters in 6 and LJ

>>717175405
Only one i dont mind is Adachi because Akio Otsuka is cool

Wait a second isn't Stranger of Paradise literally just Bryce

>>717177673
Shes still a woman
And most importantly
She didnt get shirtless for the fight, meaning she doesnt get the boost it gives

>>717199334
>I had maxed jobs on basically everyone, and leveled the shit out of Freelancer for those sweet attack bonuses.
Yes, you significantly overleveled to an unrealistic degree. All M&S require is any singular job at like the low 20s and your overall job around 45 to do it comfortably. You do not even need to have touched any other jobs and if you stayed in your default jobs you'd have their second best weapon in the game because the various floor rewards give you the crafting weapons for the best ones.
Kiryu and Tendo are essentially only expecting like 22-24 in a job max and around late 40s at best.
FMT is like 26 in a job and early 50s at most.

Incidentally low level runs got it as low as something like 8 in a job and 19 on Ichiban with the rest a few levels below that but that relies on specific jobs and attack item spam.

>>717126070
>absolutely no reason for him to be there, be that strong, and he even says he has no idea what he's doing there
>boss fight and theme song are still absolute kino
How'd they do it?

>>717178403
>why did Ichiban start at level 1?
In 7 he was in prison for 19 years (pussy)
In 8 hes been salaryman wageslaving for a couple of years and has slacked off on his technique
(Also Ichiban is a schizo and its adressed in the first game hes a way stronger and better fighter than he actually performs as but his autism makes it so he always lets his opponents get a hit in for "fairness", so its not unreasonable that he would just act like hes in level 1 again due to schizophrenia)

>>717199619
>meaning she doesnt get the boost it gives
Counterpoint, her panties were soaked being next to a shirtless Kiryu giving her that buff by proxy.

>>717197682
Did you do substories? For majima I had to do one dungeon run, kiryu I had to get one level, it was close. On legend they both were easy af. The heavy machinery and the vacuum cleaner were horrible on legend.
>8
All the points are valid. They should've separated faster imho and meet faster, too. Ichi spends too much time in Japan, for no reason, really. It's clear they used the chaoter structure from 7, big mistake.
>dual protags
Cool, but kiryu was the wrong choice imho.
>splitting teams
In a party building game it is a good idea, the split should've happen earlier and introducing companions in the last chapter is atrocious. Team should've been standing earlier. Kiryu getting ihcibans friends is unheard of.
>jobs
Urban fantasy job system rules, no doubt.

>>717181114
Haruka shows up and meets with Killyu offscreen at the end of 8, their deal is off the table, theyre gonna have to work a new deal with him because the dude is tired of their shit

>>717199629
Tendo is tricky. It's a gimmick fight that needs certain skills or items. The last dungeon isn't trivial.

>>717183621
Hes gonna replace Kiryu in the party in 9 since hes the only guy that can fulfill his role as the designated "fuck you im playing normal yakuza again for 10 seconds" character

>>717199875
Ichi being a schizophrenic canonically is just awesome.

>>717200051
It doesn't need Peerless Resolve, it just helps. If you perfectly guard the punch the effect doesn't work. If you stayed in the default jobs you'd also have it since Hero learns it in the early 20s.

>>717121081 (OP)
>I need to be serious
>I need to have serious sounding voice
>I need to stand still in a serious way
>I need to talk serious exposition about serious plans
>I need to act like this for 70 fucking years of my life

Nigger you are an old man now. Find a girlfriend. Make out. Have sex. Impregnate the bitch. Go out drinking. Go party at local houses with college students. Buy a house. Teach kids. Play video games. Go fishing. Learn dancing. Create a punk rock band. Go on a trip to Europe or America. Groom teenage girls on the internet. Go to EVO. Troll Trump on social media. Buy a car. Go street racing. Start a family. Etc. Etc.

Use your life. Stop being a one dimensional video game character in a business suit whose entire existence revolves around spewing exposition about boring niche shit in an overly serious manner like it's going to change the entire planet instead of one extremely small district that the majority of the world doesn't give a fuck about. Live your motherfucking life. BITCH

>>717187359
Fuck you mean out of character?
Hes yakuza jesus, its entirely in character for him

>>717200124
Or you use sacrifice stones or ko protection. Honestly, people freaking out and deinstalling the game because tendo is unfair is just ridiculous. He's a tricky boss fight and that's a good thing.
Both games are pretty clear in how the mechanics work. It's just not as clear if ichiban dies due to hp loss or as insta kill.

>>717199941
>Ichi spends too much time in Japan, for no reason
It's the best bit of the game though

>>717200237
Did Kiryu really have to write all that in his letter

>>717200308
Because it's how the game should've been. Hawaii is just a fanfic story for me. Feels not like yakuza.

>>717199941
>>717199941
>Did you do substories?
Absolutely. The ones in 7/8 were so of the best in the franchise. And the fact I continued to do them despite not getting any experience of any variety was a testament to their enjoyment. I'm not sure if this is considered blasphemy, but I didn't really do the Dondoko Island substories. Not because I wasn't having fun with the mini-game, but because I did not want to sidetrack myself for hours on end. Which again is a compliment to the game.

>>717201008
Skipped dondoko completely. Will do it in premium adventure. Do want the laser. The substories in 8 are mostly bad, curious that you like them so much. I really liked them in 7, in 8 it's often very simplistic. There's sujimon that work on dondoko, curious about that, too. I'd like to finish everything 8 has, so I will need a week or two until premium adventure is done. Really looking forward to the legend playthrough, hopefully it's better as in harder than in 7.
>sidetrack
Generally yakuza has fun side content, but it doesn't tie in at all in the main camping. They should address this problem. Level scaling, mandatory xp and items would help with that.
A big problem is to get the substories to spawn. I beat lj twice, and only did like 6 substories, as they are locked up behind obscure content that I never found naturally. I learned just now that amon is in both judgment games.
>ending 8
Still mad at the story. Ichiban just dropped unconscious, what are the writers doing...?

>>717201879
>There's sujimon that work on dondoko, curious about that, too.
That feature exists solely to get you to grind the completion list requirement for it and nothing else. It's a complete afterthought. Everything it can give you is worse than running to a random battle in Hawaii and fighting them and takes 30 minutes real time at the lowest to match that.

The multiplayer fights are the same nonsense 6 was where everyone just uses DLC characters and if you haven't paid for them you lose, and if you have paid for them it's a coin flip if you win.