>>717211612 (OP)No anon, he says itโs okay
Chinese astroturf just like BG3. You're a retard if you fell for it
Almost like Only Up was entirely an asset flip game, and that's why they don't exist anymore. Hmmmmmmmm I wonder if it could be a wink and a nod to that fact?????
umm sweetie you can't say a bad thing about the flavour of the month game of march 2025
don't you know asmongold said it was the best game ever made?
we all love ue5 sloppa here, don't we folks?
>>717211956this but fromslop
>generic assets exist for exactly this purpose
>get pissed if anybody uses them
I'm glad he said it was ok, I was worried I might have to think for myself then.
>>717211612 (OP)>>717211956>AI bad>Asset Store assets bad>Using game engines badWhat kind of autism is this? If GTA 3 came out today you'd all say it sucks and call it RenderWare slop?
Can someone explain to me please why using premade assets is bad? Assuming the assets look good and don't clash with the other existing assets, of course.
>>717212072because it just is ok
I'm an end-justifies-the-means kind of guy as long as the end result is good. That means, if you're game uses AI, buys/steals assets, uses pirated software, or flat out steals from other developers or creators with zero credit given, I don't give a single shit. The final art itself still remains great. Granted, the dev will get a hit, but it doesn't change the outcome.
I want good games no matter the cost.
I thought everybody already knew? Literally all you needed to tell, was that dog water ass climbing animation that conveniently nobody complains is equivalent to yellow paint because its not yellow
>>717212008Yeah? Truly Great games aren't made with store assets.
You wouldn't know this being a retard.
smol dev team 30 ppl + doggo plox understand
>>717211612 (OP)>they used generic shit assets for the generic ONLY UP minigame shit oh no no no non ononononononononononononononono it's SO OVER, expeditionsisters how will we ever memeshit word buzzword memequestion? memereply /v/
>>717212072it's part of that "game devs are LAZY" retardation where graphics whores are hyperventilating and pouring over your game to make sure everything in the game is a 100% original asset just so it can get thrown away and never used again in any other game
>>717211902>Chinese astroturf just like BG3. You're a retard if you fell for itDamn, the Chinese are good are making games. Hope they buy up more western studios.
>noooooo every game must use bespoke assets
>why the fuck do games take so long to make these days and cost so much?
>>717211612 (OP)>asset store assets
>>717212134and i will still pirate your game because i believe developers do not deserve to be paid
>>717212072You might as well be using AI at that point.
OH WAIT
>amazing assets for a few bucks in the store
>AI that can help you code, generate art, voice, music
now you have no excuse to make that dream game of yours, anon.
>>717212151Some of the game does look wonky and uninspired tho
>>717212137Go look at old games and lots use assets they didn't make
>>717212137>NOOO YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE CLIMB ANIMATION YOURSELF.... YOU JUST HAVE TO!!!!!!!sasuga da na gay retard chan
>>717212310Neither does hating orange man. :)
>>717212008i would say they exist for this purpose until they become so commonplace that people start to noootice and at that point they are probably better off used as placeholders unless you want the slop stigma
>>717212279The way I see it, it's an indie studio on their flagship. They get a pass. Now that they have that big cash pool, the spiritual sequels will need to step up. And I'm sure they will.
>>717211612 (OP)everyone does it you clown even the biggest ubisoft assassins creed slop bought entire city assets from kitbash
>>717211902Nigger majority of the industry is chinese owned now. What do you play? Some obscure Russian indie shit I guess?
>>717212239I can't afford to hire koreans for combat animations because I'm not a nepobaby
>>717212402>She doesn't know
Game dev is just too much of a monster nowadays. It takes most of a decade to make these big games now and even with premade assets.
>>717212336Name 5.
>>717212345Precisely. You may be alright with lazy mass produced trash but I like playing and seeing whole unique and hand crafted games. This exact thing counters that, and again, you wouldn't know being a retard with frame of reference for truly Great games.
Get fucked and play some real games.
>>717211612 (OP)? They are in the store for that?
What is the "issue"?
>dude you have to modell that rock again
>b..but there is the exact same rock for 1$
>NOOOOOOOOOO waste days modelling the rock right fucking now! i dont care that it was modelled ten thousand times already! make it again! invent the wheel again!
this shit is retarded use what gets you the best result the fastest
>>717211612 (OP)>and here's why that's a good thing
>>717212154>>717212456Your government wastes money on children's toys while causing literal landslides in mountains to pave roads and utterly destroy your civilization. Enjoy. West/Japan will still come out on top for vidya btw. You cannot get DEI funding swatted down fast enough anymore.
>>717212154the chinese are good at botting twitch streamers who play their games
which tricks retards like you into thinking they're missing out on some big event, and you play the game because you think everyone else is and force yourself to like it because of course the emperor's new clothes are great, I'm not a rube!
>>717212582it is a good thing makes releasing games faster and there is no point in making the same tree that is already out there for the millionths time
>>717212576They'd rather have games take 20 years because the one modeler the small dev team can afford has to create literally everything.
>>717212072It really depends on who's using it.
For a smaller developer, I ignore it because it's obviously a complete budgetary necessity. For bigger developers, it's just another reason to fire someone and use cheaper, shittier assets to keep overhead down and layoffs up.
Like many things in life, it depends on the context and there's no one-size-fits-all solution.
Unless you're a total fucking idiot and you really do think everything needs to be reduced down to childish good/bad binaries, which is where I suspect you're at.
>>717211902These two have broken more minds between them than Chinese water torture.
>>717211612 (OP)but when my favorite retro games graphics are built entirely from japanese texture cds its called SOUL
>>717211612 (OP)>buy a ready to slap in mantle system so you can make a mantle mini game really fastFUCKING DEVELOPERS. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUTSOURCED TO INDIA FOR 500 RANJEETS TO MAKE WORSE. PAY INDIANS WHAT THEY'RE WORTH, FUCKING PAY THEM.
maybe i am confused but isnt the purpose of assets being sold and bought for the person that bought the assets to use them?
what is the expectation here that people buy large amounts of assets but not use them because why?
>>717212818What's with you chinks and making your white monkeys wear sunglasses? Both are an embarrassment, but especially Swen: Who has never made a good game.
>>717212843because you aren't supposed to use them unless you are American
>>717212658Why does the existence of China make Americans seethe so much?
Is it because jews can't blend in with Asians so easily and China openly stated that they study them to find out how they brainwashed Europeans?
Is that it? Screeching that their parasitic masters can't hop ship like they did throughout the west every time they sank an empire?
>>717212883the entire n64 library
>>717212843people tend to violently scrutinize indie, and small developers, but only recently have caught wind of AAA companies outsourcing absolutely everything, as they have been for more than 10 years. it's from a long term brainwashing where people think games need to cost 600 million dollars, and take 8 years to make, when it used to cost a million or two, and a year or two.
>>717212769This anon fucks.
>>717212843becomes even more retarded when you think about the fact that there is no difference.
You hire someone and pay him to modell something.. you pay somone on a store who then also modells the thing. Same fucking shit you pay someone to do the work the difference is even smaller when you consider all the outsourcing.. no difference if a company pays some indian to model a rock or if you buy a asset some indian made lol
>>717212987Name 5 specific games.
>>717212976>Does nothing>Wastes billions>LosesKeep seething Wong. You can buy awards at a canadian trustfund kid's "game awards" but that's also why no one will ever take them seriously. Please, keep wasting money.
NO ONE MENTIONED AMERICANS CHRIST SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT AMERICANS YOU OBSESSED FREAKS
>>717211612 (OP)That's efficiency. FF7Remake is an example of actual immersion killing asset flipping, where they put London phone boxes into Midgar and replaced many deiselpunk designs with generic ass UE5 assets. E33 also used iPhones for motion capture and devs did the acting themselves instead of wasting money on celebs and kit like Kojima.
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>>717212820ENTER
COBBLESTONE
>>717213013>indie and smallI wish my small indie studio had the backing of Microsoft and kepler (by extension netease), a movie adaption in the works before the game is even out and my rich dad.
>>717212547- Thief: The Dark Project
- The Sims
- Max Payne
- Morrowind
- Half Life 2
Each used textures and sound effects from open source or licensed stock libraries
>>717213079mario 64, ocarina of time, majoras mask, duke nukem 64, mega man 64
>>717212416Couldn't you just say "notice"?
>NOOOO IT COULDN'T BE MADE BY A SMALL TEAM IT WAS ACTUALLY MADE BY 3000 BILLION PEOPLE
>ALSO IT ACTUALLY USES PREMADE ASSETS INSTEAD OF HIRING MORE PEOPLE
Pick a lane faggots
>[Game you like] uses pre-made assets = GOOD
>[Game you don't like] uses pre-made assets BAD
>>717211612 (OP)>spent the time/money to animate going up an object>or just buy the asset for like 1 dollarWhats the issue again? Isn't this what the asset store is for?
>>717212976Your chinese government was created by jews
>>717213191how did one game (that beat every single rpg in the last decade, and especially final fantasies last 5 outings) buckbreak people so hard?
>>717211902reminder this guy is the elden ring schizo and if you point out chinese investment in fromsoft he loses his mind lol
>>717213279my game uses a "mantle up" animation i downloaded, and then edited to better fit my game. some autist analyzed it frame by frame, found out where i got, and then cried about it on discord for 2 entire, real life hours. i didn't ban him, i just let the community shit on him for a week.
>>717212820Texture cds? What are you talking about?
>>717213383Reminder you're a schizo chasing his head fairies that needs meds
the rock dungeon in e33 with all the hexagon rock formations is asset store.. there are several packs with these rocks
some building ins asscreed games come from kitbash
simply gon is a software that semi automates creating actual peformant lods (more peformant that ue5 engine auto lod creator) and is basically used by half the aaa gaming industry
etc.
>>717213486man this site really is filled with zoomers now
>>717213326>bg3>e33seems like the secret to /v/ schizo seethe is just making a good rpg lol
>>717213326I can't think of a major rpg it did beat. It comes nowhere near bg3 or elden ring.
>>717212072I don't see the issue either. Why would I go through the effort of making tables and chairs when there are pre-made ones available? people don't realize how unnecessary it is to create common objects -_-
>>717211612 (OP)donkeysisters coping hard with their impending buckbreaking i see
>>717213607>bg3>goodeven if you remove the gay shit and retarded characters, the garbage dnd combat stays.
>>717211612 (OP)I there suppose to be another way you're suppose to climb up a 1M ledge?
>>717213450I do not understand people getting so upset over something like this. Would they also be upset that their local construction company didn't grow their own trees for lumber too?
Is mantling up an object so integral to the gameplay/story that you MUST craft the animation yourself from scratch?
>>717212008Seeing how the sausage is made would make a lot of people swear off eating the sausage.
Why wouldn't you have less respect for a gamedev if you found out it was mostly just a drag n drop IDE and all the animations in game were made 5-10 years ago by someone else?
>>717213607like i said earlier, being buck broken by aaa companies pretending it takes 8 years to make a solid 4/10, full of macrotransactions, battlepasses, 500 seasonal ass rapings, all for the low price of $80, or $120 for early access if you're feeling extra retarded.
>>717212137>Good games waste development time as much as possible!>ESPECIALLY smaller lesser known studios!This is why you only play shit games.
>>717213450thats hilarious
Undertale stole a ton of shit and /v/ slurped it up
I dont play "games" made with unreal engine
>inb4 that would be like 95% of modern games, so you dont play games at all i guess
that's correct
>>717212818>2019: Sekiro tearing a new asshole on SSBU>2023: BG3 tearing a new asshole on ToTK>2025: E33 tearing a new asshole on MKW, DKB and MP4Welcome to the Hated by Tendies Club, Sandfall.
>>717212137>Truly Great gamesName 10
>>717213760Why should I care about anything but the final product?
>>717213706i've used this argument before, and people someone don't make the connection, or even want to. no one is expecting their local sandwich place to make their own fucking salami, or cheese. no one busts into a construction site and demand they hire a blacksmith to make custom, personal hammers. but you use a fucking climbing animation, and some retardo shits his pants.
>>717213982This is retarded cope because your game is ass and you don't know what you're doing. You have access to the necessary tools, comparing that to raising animals and slaughtering them is so beyond retarded that I doubt you are serious.
>want to construct a building in the city
>gamer autist comes along
>NOOOO you can't use pre-sawed timber you have to chop down the trees yourself
>NOOOOOO you can't use digging machines to do foundations you have to shovel earth manually or it isn't real work
>NOOO don't get an architect to help design it you have to be original
if you apply the same ideological biases gamers hold against game developers to other industries you can see how retarded they are
>>717212072It doesn't look good
>>717213706>>717213982I think it stems from a crab bucket mentality.
>>717213760Why the fuck would I ever care about that?
>>717213885I like how starfield is so forgettable that people forgot that /v/ schizos tried to pit it against BG3 as a based trad rpg
>>717212658answer the fucking question
>>717213982i think its jealousy along the lines of gamers being pissed ala "i could have done that"
basically they are angry because they never tried making a game and now think its easy and they could have done it (but didnt cause they are lazy)
>>717212072Same here. I don't see anything wrong in stealing assets, like who cares about that shit. Gameplay ideas? People clap when games blatantly ape System Shock. Stories? Shakespeare stole both from the ancients and his contemporaries all the time.
If you dont program is assembly you are not a real programer, simple as
>>717211612 (OP)They already admitted this months ago.
>>717211612 (OP)Next you're going to tell me that FF6 is a horrible game because Square bought a disc filled with sound effect in it for their sound font.
>>717213206>Tendie suddenly goes radio silentKek
>>717214292the funny part is it's way fucking easier today, BECAUSE you can grab a bunch of assets, and play to your strengths instead of hand crafting everything like a moron. i've always been good at 3d modelling and texturing, and can do basic animation. even when it comes down to something like just using a tree pack, i at least retexture the tree, and make my own bark and leaves. sure, it's the same basic shape you've seen a million times, but mine is more personalized. i rarely just drag and drop.
>>717211612 (OP)Don't ever pay attention to sound effects in any video game
>>717214301sorry i am still at the hardware part of soldering my own motherboard together to make a pc...
if you develop a game on a bought PC instead of creating a pc literally from scratch.. did you actually develop the game you made on that bought pc? i argue no.
lol
>>717213565Na, just disingenuous faggots trying to misdirect
>>717214143Na he's right.
>>717214401that other nigger didnt even know what a texture cd is, mario 64 probably dropped a decade before he was even born, this site is fucking doomed
>>717211902You didnt have to look that deep Anon
We quite literally see that Asian girls feet on screen for 30 hours.
We know.
And we want more.
>>717214507>Didn't personally mine the silicon for the partsYou didn't build the PC
>>717212008It's an issue when the devs put in the bare minimum amount of effort to produce their slop yet still want $50+ for their slop.
>>717211902You are insane
>>717214669>Probaly> Pure assumptions to defend papa NintendoShut up you fucking pathetic cultist
>>717214868>he thinks only nintendo games used stock textures and sound effectsbeyond saving
>>717211902Na I want more of this. Fucking your westerncuck filth. You wana stop china? Make better shit nigger. You're leaving a giant hole on the market for them to infiltrate into
>>717214935Read the replies, disingenuous tendie cultist and then kill yourself
>>717211612 (OP)havent played it yet but i genuinely do not care that the devs used an asset store. so what
>>7172147898 hours of soundtrack. 150+ new, unique songs. By your metrics, every game that fails to achieve these standards is slop that should be sold below $50.
Theres some stock sfx in the wii/switch that I hear used in hentai games.
Now when I surf the nintendo store I get hard.
>>717214789>the devs took shortcuts!Yeah, no shit, that's a technique called My Game Didn't Take Fucking Forever Because I Did Everything From Scratch To Appease Some Shithead On The Internet. Start wailing about the devs needing to do everything in ASM instead of C++ because it's lazy otherwise.
>>717211612 (OP)and notice how no one noticed this or brought it up until today
>>717215169>DID YOU USE UNREAL BLUEPRINTS TO MAKE THAT PLATFORM GO BACK AND FORTH, AND PLAY A SOUND EFFECT?>YOU DIDN'T MAKE THE GAME>anon, it's a moving bl->DIDN'T. MAKE. THE. GAME.
>>717213275>tfw no east asian failed idol plastic bimbo gfwhy even live?
>>717214143Anyone has the means to raise and slaughter animals though
>>717215029which post struck a nerve you little nigger
>>717212416But people didnt notice, just some random person making the observation, as well as there not being many ways to vault over low obstacles unless you go flamboyant with a different animation for the people that travel differently like lune doing the floating
>>717212072How will you create jobs in india and china sweatshops if you reuse already existing assets and not spend 10 years and 2 billion dollars like Grand Theft Auto 6 is, making everything from scratch?
>>717211612 (OP)i care less about the animations or more about the slop UE graphics with no style
>>717211612 (OP)Ah, so that's why the animations in this game are so jank
>>717214184That didn't work because not even the most ardent Bethesdafags would defend Starfailed. Meanwhile, everyone knows Nintendo could repackage a steaming pile of turds and Tendies would happily pay $80 for that. It's so obvious who the biggest BG3 shitposters are.
doasisters... its fucking over...
>Go to another country for vacation
>They use the exact same building materials for commercial housing.
RRRRRGGGGHHHHH
>>717212137You are an idiot.
>>717212137>Yeah? Truly Great games aren't made with store assets.dude
mario 64 is FILLED with reused assets
>>717211612 (OP)Am I suppose to think that the game would be better if the devs wasted time recreating an already existing animation for their game?
The game has completely new combat animations, it was the right decision because that's the important part of the game.
I couldn't care less about some extremely unimportant climbing animation .
>>717212137Truly Great books are all stolen.
You wouldn't know this being a retard.
>>717215594i agree basically no one would ever notice the vault animation being a generic asset, but i think if several games come out and they all use the default unreal running animations, then even casual gamers may pick up on that (at least subconsciously)
>>717212137This is the most 13 year old statement I've heard on /v/ all year
>>717212976>Why does the existence of China make Americans seethe so muchthe idea of being able to own a home or have healthcare makes the amerijew seethe in anger
>>717212137mario 64 is one of the greatest games of all ti-ACK
>>717216351Considering the state of the housing industry in china, I'm not sure the whole "owning a home" thing is a good point for you.
>>717216496dude we can't own homes here in the USA either, the rich are hoarding all of them
>>717215470He's probably that Indian dude shitting on E33 24/7.
I guess his strategy is to try to deflect to Nintendo fanboys to incite flamewars.
>>717212137>The game didn't create it's own color and language system
>>717212662>the chinese are good at botting twitch streamers who play their gamesAnd their games just happen to be really great? Sounds like a good deal to me.
>>717212137expertly crafted (you) bait
>>717211902>>717212658only a self-hating Chinese person could be this obsessed
>>717212137They hated him because he told the truth.
>only a self-hating Chinese person could be this obsessed
You are never leaving poverty, Chang
>>717212072>Assuming the assets look good and don't clash with the other existing assetsE33s art and asset placement is an incoherent mess of ugly muddy fucking slop
>>717213607i thought E33 was great, but i couldn't care any less about BG3
>>717212072If I like the game and am ok with its success it's fine
If I dislike the game and am angry that it sold well, it's bad
This applies to almost everything you see /v/ bitch about
>>717216945Least disingenuous pic choice from an anti-shill
>>717216828>It's a seething miggerLol
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>>717214184B-but I miss Starfield-chan...
>>717212662The Chinese make good games like AI Limit
Neither Russia nor India have ever made a good game
>>717216386NINTNEDO
FIRE THIS THIEVING NIGGER
NOWWWWWW
>>717217319>home ownership is highest where you legally can't own real estate
>>717216587He isn't very good at it and keeps embarrassing himself. The average IQ in India is 80.
>>717211956>don't you know asmongold said it was the best game ever madedont make me drop the game now i just started playing it
>>717217592>legally can't own real estateamerican education at work
>>717212137>gets BTFO relentlessly>(y-you) bait...
>>717217686who gives a fuck about americans
>>717217756Russians and Indians are faggots.
>>717217319In case you don't know china has had a gigantic housing crash in recent years with multiple property developers going bankrupt and leaving millions of homes that had already been sold unachieved.
>>717217686He is not entirely wrong because the china government is the offical owner of all land in china, only leasing it for development.
>>717213697the dnd combat isn't even remotely that bad. Only a scatterbrained retard struggles with fucking 5e combat
>>717215118NINTENDO!! Hire this guy!
THIRTY THREE
THAT'S THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO MADE THIS GAME
>>717217897Home ownership in Russia. Could this be dragonirian?
hourly reminder no anti-e33 cucks will post their playtime or arm.
>>717212151You're asking people to pay for work you didn't do. Your shitty game is not entitled to sales and it is not entitled to success. The game was made for the sole purpose of making the most money with the least amount of effort and that is why it fails.
>>717217593>image deflects to unrelated 3rd game/company despite it being completely unknowable what the schizo's actual agenda isi withhold judgement
people are mad to realize that it doesn't actually take much effort to be satisfied
when instead they should be relieved that pleasures are easier to come by than they thought
I don't get it
>>717218093>You're asking people to pay for work you didn't do.this is such a fucking stupid approach to software development and to any work ethic of any kind that it doesn't deserve anything but mockery
>>717214498I like some stock sounds, they can make me really nostalgic. I love that one metal door noise.
>>717218121american protestant mind-poison + exceptionalism/individualism
>you didn't WOOOORK FOR IIIIIIT90% of the planet doesn't care and they're happy to have it available
>>717218117Ranjeet seethed at a witcher 3 thread thinking it was actually baldurs gate 3
Later tried denying it too
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/650999465/#651000380
>>717217974The fuck are you even on about?
>>717218235i see that, i just dont see the relation to bethesda in this
>>717217002It makes no sense to even talk about bg3 and e33 in the same thread since they're not the same genre at all.
>>717218295they illicit a similar reaction from /v/ schizos, thats all
>>717212072if you don't hand write your code on punch cards you didn't really make the game
Saars do not redeem the BG3 play saarfield instead
>>717216047The combat animations were outsourced and they are not credited in their 30 people + a dog number when referring to how many people made the game
>>717218282Because the samejeet was a bethesdashill trying to shill starfield while schizoing out at BG3 back in 2023
As a Bethesdrone we do not claim the retard shitposting above
Starfield is unironically shit and Fallout 76 mogs it anyday of the week
>>717218432>>717218579i never saw starfield as being positioned against bg3, i only ever saw it as a continuation of the anti-new vegas schizo
>>717217897>owns all land and leases ithow is functionally different from property taxes?
>>717217943I love retards that get so defensive when someone says their favorite games combat is bad so they have to pretend it means the person must be bad at it despite being one of the most braindead piss easy games lol
>>717214789If you want a team of that size to produce a game of Expedition 33's scope and fidelity with exclusively unique assets, then the game wouldn't come out until 2028
>>717218579realistic indian npc behavior
>>717218170I get freaked out sometimes when I hear the Doom door sound effect or the WoW charge sound effect in some random TV show or movie.
>>717211612 (OP)>assets are LITERALLY available for developers to use in their games>"NO YOU CAN'T USE ASSETS YOU HAVE TO MAKE EVERYTHING FROM SCRATCH EVEN IF IT TAKES MONTHS AND TURNS OUT SHIT!!!"
>>717218670They can force you out at their convenience if they want to build a highway.
>>717218579>ugh freezing time during NPC conversations is such an immersion breaker>
>>717217756Going by the evidence on the internet? Non americans, euros in particular
>>717217319Paying a mortgage isn't owning anything.
Paying land taxes isn't owning anything.
>>717218643the indian anti-new vegas schizo made a few anti-bg3 memes in a similar vein to his fallout 3 memes. he created starfield chan too in order to fight shadowheart posting. its not the same as the russian anti-bg3 schizo tho
>>717217319Oh yeah I'm sure that China, a country totally not known for fudging numbers is not fudging those numbers
>>717218768For me, it's the imp's camel grunt
>>717218854>its not the same as the russian anti-bg3 schizo thoIndians are just curry flavored Russians
If Nintendo isn't just an asset flipping company why do they always end up:
1. Choosing to use a texture provided instead of photographing it
2. Not bothering to do the bare minimum effort of building their own walls and castles to take a photo of
3. Choosing the lazy way out of running supply lines, and instead relying on cheap materials provided by third worlders for the very foundation of their games
>>717218806How is this different from eminent domain?
>>717219059China doesn't even have eminent domain on the same level as America. It's famous for having nail houses where the property owner refuses to sell.
>>717218948This is literally harmless. Grow up.
>>717214789Try making a game yourself, any kind of silly game, see if you think the same.
>>717218525i know that, doesn't change the fact that the combat animations are original, made for the game and an example of correct utilization of resources, I don't really get why you are telling me this when it doesn't change what I'm saying.
>>717219174Shame if a... truck crashed into that house.
>>717218948this looks like a "tranime" spamming ex-frogposter taking creepshots of people living and existing
>>717219194Lol found the pajeet
>>717219283Interesting, posting that really made the Indians reveal themselves
>>717219059Compensation isn't guaranteed or fair. They can also reclaim and give it to someone else instead of being for public utility.
>>717219423They can also just not sell the house in China if they think compensation isn't fair. In America the police probably just shoot you.
>>717219194>>717219283SAAAAAAAAARS PLEASE DO BEING THE NEEDFUL AND DOING THE LEAVING OF THE POOL
They weren't kidding about /v/ being filled with Indians. Every saar accusation is legit.
>>717219247Because it adds to the fact that the game is a low quality pile of shit, you know, the topic at hand. Retard.
>>717219635No one knows for sure
>>717219646how is paying talented Korean animator for your combat animation a sign that the game is bad you fucking retard
>>717219362>receive any reply at all>UHH OHHHHHHH THIS MADE THE INDIANS MADDDDDYou aren't a human being, you are a golem. A scroll was placed in your mouth and you follow its commands.
>>717218670You can't leave a lease as inheritance.
And the government going bankrupt doesn't mean that your just ownership expires.
You can also exclude government officers and police from your property if they don't have a warrant.
Property taxes are also optional.
>>717213760> shitty meat parts grinded into paste and put in plastichow did you expect it to be made exactly
>>717218579He even looks like Vivek ramaswamy kek
>>717219485The government can still seize the land through legal action and cut off utilities. You only hear about it when the owners can hold out long enough for it to generate bad publicity but plenty just fold under the pressure.
>>717212137what a retard kek
>>717219774>Taking pictures of people living and existing>PeopleIndians aren't human
This thread gave me a huge deja vu. I swear I saw the same exact replies posted here already.
>>717211612 (OP)I never understood what was wrong with this.
Like does it really matter if they buy a pack of background LOD trees instead of wasting time and money making 20 trees themselves?
As long as it matches the artstyle is doesn't fucking matter and 99% of games have the exact same artstyle.
>>717211612 (OP)>Game development is too expensive >Devs streamline process by not creating custom wooden barrels and cobblestone street textures and other inane nonsense >NOOO YOU CANT DO THAT THAT'S ILLEGAL!!!
>>717217472Russia made the best video game of all time then retired, knowing it would never be topped.
>>717220002Dance, golem, continue dumping your ready-made seethe folder.
This is the consequence of snoy nu/v/ games as art faggotry.
>stop caring about gameplay because you want hollywood to validate your hobby
>games become literal troon propaganda with shitty third person cover shooter mechanics ripped off from the last 300 shitty third person cover shooters
>someone makes something kinda unique
>seething rage at them not creating bespoke animations because that matters for some reason
totk and botw were 11/10, youre just too gay to admit it because you play games for the homosexual propaganda.
>>717220124yea, pathologic is pretty great
>>717220134SAAAR STOP EXPOSING US SAAAR. Seethe jeetshit
Well what do they mean by a lot? Do they mean a few pieces here and there, like a few a room, or entire rooms filled with asset store slop?
Because yeah that shit should be custom-made if you have any kind of a budget really, if I walk into a room and see the same assets that were present in 1,000 other games for your big studio I'm gonna be mad.
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO REMAKE THE WHEEL!
Yes. Just make some good assets that match the art style of your game and don't bloat it with a bunch of bloated assets shoved in there for no reason other than to raise the polygon count.
And yeah there's a difference between being reasonable and making some of your assets versus just buying them all from a store, and there are no examples so I can't really say anything specific about OP's pic.
>>717220124The USSR wasn't just Russian it was also Ukrainians, Kazakhs etc. Russians like taking credit for Ukrainian contributions to the USSR. Russia can't even build large warships today because the only Soviet yard capable of doing so is in western Ukraine.
How is hiring a modeler under a monthly wage any different than buying assets from a modeler beside the method of payment?
>>717220134Sure jeet I will
>>717211956>its okay when a small french company consisting of over 500 employees steals assets>it's not okay when a large japanese game creating superior JRPGs actually creates their own gameI always laugh at E33 fags thinking their game is better than remake or rebirth
>>717220134So ironic a people so obsessed with caste be barely above abos in the global caste system
>>717220307trust me, no one except for you and russ/ukr gov cares about who made borscht first
>>717220338Mostly a bloat issue, if you go into the app store and buy a bunch of dollar assets you might bloat the game because you just bought 10,000 barrels for 1 dollar. Sometimes restrictions are a good thing for developers.
>>717215782GoTY isn't about what game is the best or the most innovative or the most interesting. It's just about the game that made the biggest impact. BG3 might be woke slop for childless white women, but it sure made an impact while Starfield was quickly forgotten even by the biggest Bethesda fanboys who went back to playing Skyrim.
>>717211612 (OP)is this why everyone in the game has googly eyes?
>>717220436The upper castes of India were European Aryan invaders who were a very small minority and obviously interbred their genes out quickly, leaving behind a giant racial sludge soup consisting of the filthiest races of humanity.
>>717211612 (OP)>hey bro hereโs the blue print for stock items terrain have at it>??????????RPG maker exist.
>>717212072It isn't but retards like to believe it's a deal breaker. These same retards also don't realize a shit ton of old games use store assets, especially their favorite games. Back in those days though, you got the assets from CDs and had to pay a pretty penny. Games like Higurashi and Silent Hill used these to great effect. If there's an exact asset you need for your game and one already exists, why bother making your own? Why spend hours, maybe days, modelling and texturing a Honda Civic instead of finding one online? The faggots who shout "you have to make literally everything!" don't understand game development.
>>717211612 (OP)They asset flipped and that's good thing reddit :)
>>717220338If everyone did that then every game would look and play the same.
>>717220338Buying premade stuff is usually cheaper and leaves more choice since asset marketplaces aren't dedicated to a single modeler.
>>717218925China has unusually high home ownership in part because buying apartments is considered pretty much the only "safe" way to park money in the country. People in china buy property not so much as a place for a human to live but rather as an arbitrary value holding widget which is more safe and easy to use than other legal options
Guy is so not mad and so in control that he's dumping his collection of webms on post cooldown.
>>717220710Meanwhile, you don't own even a single piece of property.
>>717220338the difference is exclusivity to the animation. Pushed to its limit, you can make a game purely off marketplace assets. we call them asset flips. basically, it makes it seem (and it is) cheap to use store-bought assets. imagine if you saw the same "open door", "walk" and "shoot bow" animation in 3 out of 4 games cause it's decent quality for low price. it's like going to a fancy restaurant then realizing all their food is re-heated frozen food you can buy at the grocery store
>>717220307>Mention Russia>Russian who thinks he's "Ukrainian" comes out of the weeds to bitch that he is the TRUE RUSSIANEvery time.
Ukraine isn't a real country. You guys are as bad as Tasmanians who sperg out when you call them Aussies., or Canadians who sperg out when you call them Americans.
>>717220723Jeet is so mad at getting exposed he's seething at videos of India. Shouldn't you be proud of your country jeet?
>>717220723I don't like jeets but I speak in favor of them because it's an easy bait.
>>717220810Ukraine joined the right side of history (NATO) to fight against Russian barbarism. This makes them honorary whites even if they are slavs.
>>717220440how many get brain damage from this shit?
>>717218948You know the situation is BAD when a furry is calling out another for degeneracy.
>>717220440>Pot bellied Pajeet Gupta thinks he has a snowball's chance in hell of KO'ing a white Chad It truly is a photo finish with who is more egotistically delusional. Arabs or Jeets
>>717212137Mario 64 is made with purchased textures. You wouldn't know unless you were autistic enough to look into it.
>>717220898>I don't like jeetsNo one likes jeets, least of all Indians themselves
>>717220898Kind of the high fructose corn syrup of 4chan bait, still sweet but you don't feel great after doing it. Not even because it's not funny but because the guy getting baited is the most obsessed human being alive so it's too easy.
the americuck is having a melty
>>717212662The Chinese tricked me into thinking I was having a good time when I played the game?
>>717220970>Kind of the high fructose corn syrup of 4chan bait, still sweet but you don't feel great after doing it. Not even because it's not funny but because the guy getting baited is the most obsessed human being alive so it's too easy.
>>717220965Jesus imagine the smell in that room
>>717221012Sorry Trump imposed 25% tariffs on India. Guess he'd rather iPhones be made in Chyyyna than in diarrhealand.
>>717211612 (OP)i noticed it immediately when i played. i didnt care then, and i dont care now. the only problem with it is that the implementation could be a little bit more refined. there were too many times when i was pressing into a ledge and it didnt grab.
>>717211612 (OP)Something wrong OP? The person you screenshotted said itโs okay so who are you to argue??? Huh? Huh????
Based Trump cucking India and Russia
Say no to third world shitholes on the internet
>>717221012>Exterminate rat infestation >Why are YOu so tRiGGeREd by thE RaT GODS HMMMM????
>they're eating him!
>and then they're gonna eat me!
>oh my goooooood
>>717220710my chinese friend tells me buying an apartment (which really just means buying one of the units inside the apartment, it took him forever to understand that you can't do that in the west) in china is a really shit investment because no one upkeeps the foundations of the building (since it's not their lodging, and it's not like there's a condominium association) and it'll eventually collapse within 20 years. Anything above 4th floor is a death trap if you actually live in it
>>717211612 (OP)>We need to reinvent the wheel and make every single asset for the game ourselvesUnless you're making a really small game that you're going to release as open source, there's quite literally no reason for not buying store assets for things that you need for your game, obviously, you'd need to be careful to not put a 3 million polygons house in a game that takes the game from 300 fps to 20 just looking at it.
>>717221259I sure hope you don't think you're hunting degeneracy while you have a tard meltdown and spam webms of Brown People /int/ Told Me To Dislike.
>>717217002No one is taking your flamebait.
>>717218579As far as I know, the only fanbase that has a grudge against BG3 is Tendies because it humiliated their sacred cow in 2023. TW3 btfo'd Fallout 4 in 2015 and yet you don't see Bethfags actively shitpost TW3 and CDPR here. Why the fuck would they suddenly give a different treatment to BG3 and Larian?
>>717220002Whats the counter to this?
I only use the ones with the standard profile and i always check the pumps, but they make that shit thinner and thinner, do you seriously have to just autistically jiggle everything now?
>>717221326Not him retard. You are really that hated. Stay home.
>>717212576I now remembered the thing where every rock in Halo 3 is just the same rock just resized up and down
>>717221373>Whats the counter to this?Start by deporting indians
Or, hire Nigerians, the original masters of the scam
>>717221373Contactless payment, cash.
>>717221323You fags complained about Elden Ring reusing a door opening animation from Dark Souls, but you're fine with using a stock climbing animation that thousands of other games have used?
>>717218295>talk about totk>faggots on /v/ spam reply with unrelated shit about bg3You might be right if the gay bear fuckers didnt worship the game and try and insert it into every fucking discussion because it won two literal homosexual game awards.
>>717221302Yeah it's a total shit bubble and has had horrible consequences for China on a national level but people still do it anyway
>>717221259>>717221102If Americans weren't so useless, lazy, and uneducated, companies wouldn't need to hire Indians and Chinese as CEOs and team leaders. Take a look at the payroll for any Silicon Valley project developing superintelligence AI, there are almost no Yankees.
>>717212008This. What is OP's point? Lmao. Next hell be complaining they used unreal instead of making their own engine from scratch.
>>717212008If anybody else did this shit you faggots would lose your minds.
E33 does it? Totally okay!
>>717221650You're getting deported Vivek
>>717211902arent you the guy who saw a witcher thread and started crashing out over baldurs gate 3?
>>717221721No I wouldn't lose my mind, I haven't been ten years old for a long time.
>>717221486thats in all games usually pretty well hidden... take a rock twist it around, turn it resize it etc
its cheaper to use one completely modelled rock asset 30 times in different transforms to form a mountain,road, wall whatever then it is introducing a new asset with new texture and shader and shit.. basically level designer need to be pretty good at legos lol
>>717221489>that imageI kneel
>>717220956No wonder it looks like shit.
>>717221751Yes he is, and he is Indian
>>717218235
>>717212547Keep seething retard.
>>717221721everybody else IS doing it as well, your favorite game? yes that one too! thats the point and you dont see anyone sperging out about it because there is nothing to sperg out about
>>717215782dont call anyone who defends bethesda a bethesdafag, please.
to truly be a fan of bethesda is to understand how much potential they squandered and despise them for it.
>>717221725They won't deport them because companies can't replace them with useless losers like you.
>>717213203I like that you made that idiot shut up after you were able to name 5.
>>717212053I said it sucks 20 years ago what do I win
>>717221650no?
they hire people like that for being spineless pushovers that don't rock the boat while taking a pay cut.
same reason microsoft is looking to import indians to push buttons for their AI shit.
>>717221952I work in faang and have rejected countless Indians from phone screens because they can't code
>>717221651i will complain about that
>>717212072Reddition33 is praised by normiefags for having an "amazing artstyle" when they are assets used in at least 100 games every year, when you create something beautiful you expect it to be unique not something generic you can find everywhere else
>>717212053Do you know you're at? No one here actually plays video games.
>>717222634Learn to cope faggot.
>>717221834No I totally agree. Probably one of the worst looking games ever. OOT and Paper Mario looked much better to me even as a kid.
>>717222701how am I coping? just look at this
>>717216945 it is so generic even porn games use these assets
>>717213885I doubt it's actual Tendies, since they're usually camped out in front of schools and playgrounds when not Bing Bing Wahoo'ing.
Most likely, these are snoys larping as tendies for lulz.
>>717211612 (OP)>"WHY DON'T YOU REINVENT WHEEL, REEE!?"
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>>717220669Hilarious frame
>>717221347>No one is taking your flamebait.I'm not saying BG3 is a bad game or anything like that. I'm pretty sure it's excellent.
But I still have zero interest in it and will probably never play it.
I just don't understand why people are trying to lump it and E33 together when they are completely different kinds of games. Maybe for shitposting purposes, dunno.
>>717211612 (OP)Wait until you learn about soundbanks.
>>717211612 (OP)Like every UE5 game
>>717212134but would you give that type of game the GOTY, take into consideration that the game you are describing while being really good is still nowhere near your top 20 favorite games of all time
>>717220803How many different animations do you expect for door opening?
>>717223343>still nowhere near your top 20 favorite games of all timenta but that applies to every other game this year, doesn't mean all games this year are bad
that's the point of it being "game of the YEAR" and not "game of ALL TIME"
Your government wastes money on children's toys while causing literal landslides in mountains to pave roads and utterly destroy your civilization. Enjoy. West/Japan will still come out on top for vidya btw. You cannot get DEI funding swatted down fast enough anymore.
Having a janny on the hiro's b team does not make you immune to criticism.bugs. you are nothing and have no power.
>>717218093>umm actually that chef didnt cook that cause he didn't grind his own flour.>umm actually that carpenter didn't plant that tree so...>um did that lawyer make that pen? wow, no.>I wont buy this house unless the architect made the bricks, low effort.why do you guys draw the line at art assets? if a person crafts an experience for you and you get that experience you paid for whats the problem exactly?
the only argument I can understand is the weak luddite one where you complain a mocap actors job was taken.
>>717212072generic looking, no style or vision. it will never match as well as something made uniquely for the game under the direction of the art director. yes even a "generic" climbing animation. imagine if in smash every character had the same, yet aesthetically fine, stun animation. it would look generic and shitty
luckily, they opted for EVERY character to have their own unique stun performance, even though they could have easily used a library and retargetting system and probably saved time and money. they knew making them unique and from scratch would add character to the game, even if its something most people never outwardly notice
>>717212134if you are truly an ends justifies the means guy you'd see farther than the short term.
the more you accept this, the more prevalent it will become, then before long you will start recognizing assets. stop that before its too late
>>717213850the smaller the production, the more acceptable it becomes to use assets. undertale was nearly as small as it gets
>>717213850i called it a shit game day 1
>>717220612nice claim but literal reality is disagreeing with you because everyone is already doing it
>>717224106That's because you're so shit at games you constantly die to the tarantula on your animal crossing island.
>>717215072Songs aren't content, games don't even need music unless they're music based.
>>717224198they buy the assets but then edit them to look the way they want because good games have an art direction, E33 doesn't do that, it reuses assets
>>717224480Yeah, E33 doesnโt have an art direction, itโs certainly not one of the most visually distinct games all year.
>>717220307>Ukrainian contributionsPajitnov is Russian.
>The USSR wasn't just Russian it was also Ukrainians, Kazakhs etc.>mention russian thing>umm ackchually that's ukrainian you zigger!!!>mention ukrainian thing>umm ackchually that's russian you hohol!!!You are all the same no matter how much you slavs hate each other.
>>717211612 (OP)>It's not a valid game unless everything was made from the ground up (assets, game engine, etc.)
>>717211612 (OP)The platforming in 33 was pretty garbage. I wish they used better assets. Like one where your character didn't roll forward when they landed.
>>717211612 (OP)Its hilarious seeing this after listening to Indians and Chinks talk about how BASED AI WILL CHANGE THE INDUSTRY
You niggers are never happy
>>717224909I'm not a dev and I have no desire to spend a hundred grand on a degree. If it wasn't for AI and buyable assets I would be half way though making a 2D platformer.
>>717216945yeah that's why the game was so unsuccessful
>>717211612 (OP)>I can't believe they didn't make the entire thing themselves>game engines are just a lack of effort>why didn't they make their own programming languages too>should have made their own computers and custom hardware to play the game on>developed new ways to smelting metal for the steel used in their computersat some point you can tell the argument is ridiculous and that it's clear that its a completely subjective opinion rather than objective rational point
>why didn't the artist make their own paintis on the same level of this because many artists historically DID have to make their own paint, with the best looking paintings looking that way due to the artist having access to better paint they made, but no one would seriously expect someone looking to paint something to make their own paint.
>>717212072It's not.
This isn't me being a contrarian, I'm being serious, it's not a problem. It makes games less cumbersome to make.
HOWEVER, the idea got poisoned for a lot of people early on because of lazy asset flippers - people who were buying things off of stores and cramming it together to make a minimum viable product and shitting it onto game market places.
It cause a bunch of people who have never made a game to turn up their nose at using anything premade. Some of them have even gone full retard and think that reusing assets means a developer is being lazy and not just, you know, being efficient with resources (both their own in terms of dev time and the players in terms of storage and memory usage)
>>717222634animations for mantling arent an art style, dude.
>>717223790All those comparisons are retarded
it's hilarious that expedition 33 is such an artistic literary masterpiece that 95% of the posts made in threads about it are one incredibly stable and definitely-taller-than-6ft guy just dumping his pajeet hate folder. that's just what happens when your game has writing better than Tolstoy's novels instead of horrifically paced soap opera trash, and revolutionary turn-based gameplay where you learn parry timings to perform sicko mode parries instead of engaging with stupid boring turn-based mechanics.
>>717211612 (OP)i thought the animation and model quality was ass upon first look desu
You ever wonder how many levels of schizo posting the average /v/ thread is on? Like how many of these people are legitimately fucking insane, how many are pretending to be schizo, how many are reverse shills paid for by mega corps to try to spoil the opinions of certain games.
>>717212239except getting panned by snowflakes that will shit your product like that recent spy drops game
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>>717212137>you used a pre existing skin tone for your characters?>NO! YOU HAVE TO USE A COLOR THAT DOESN'T EXIST ON THE ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM!you crazy
>>717211612 (OP)Anon, developers have always used stock assets. No one is making every single little detail from scratch. It's retarded to think they would. If fucking Mario and Final Fantasy can use purchased, premade assets, your indie game can too.
>>717212072It isn't at all. Retards who have never even attempted to make a game think it is because they haven't put any thought into it. Neat video that's related to the subject: https://youtu.be/bsCN0Yx2Vbs?si=JPoGNFlnLEA1aaFt
>>717227057>brown>human skin tone
>>717227502evolution produces many mutations
>>717212137Mario 64 used purchased assets. So did Resident Evil. The renowned soundtrack of Ratchet and Clank was made using samples. No one is doing everything 100% from scratch. To think they would is as idiotic as thinking a Michelin star restaurant has a farm out back along with a factory which produces stoves and pans.
>>717219774I would literally hit the nuke button over and over to glass your worthless country and race for good if given a chance.
>>717211612 (OP)>>717212008Using assets is how AA games get made. AAA games put more "effort" in but a considerable amount of that effort is in recouping costs with micro transactions. The reason we don't AA games anymore is because of this mentality that everything has to be as expensive as possible. No we can't use off the shelf engines and art assets we need to hire a bunch of Koreans and Indians to make brand new everything! I guess everyone forgot Capcom got sued because the original Resident Evil games used art assets without paying for them.
>>717224470>Songs aren't content, games don't even need music unless they're music based.everyone in this thread is a retard.
>>717220307Found the xoxol.
>>717216386OHHHH NONONON AHHAHAAHAHAHAHA (I'm french)
>>717211612 (OP)am I supposed to care about that?
>>717212402Yeah he's telling on himself. One of those is not like the other.
>>717227913>The renowned soundtrack of Ratchet and Clank was made using samples.Shit gets even funnier when you look at towards Japan. They had to be sharing the same sample library CDs or something, because this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWkvZloKbHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAd5W9Om7QA
was used in Dead or Alive 2, Persona 3, Jet Set Radio, Star Ocean 3, DDR, Beatmania and dozens of other games.
Just wait until you retards find out about companies that outsource asset creation to chink asset companies. 99% of the industry does this
>>717211612 (OP)I assume this of every game that uses UE
>>717212072honestly, i should be more mad about it, cause i've hated the soullessness of photogrammetry based development for years
>artist buys tubes of paint
Wooooooooow are you buying generic store assets?
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>>717212072>>717212008have you dipshits even played the fuckign game.
not only is it an asset flip. but they have not even tweaked these dogshit assets to be polished and work properly.
when the character climbs a ledge, their hands don't grab the edge properly and they slide and clip right through it.
pure laziness and lack of work ethic. which is why they used UE5 in the first place. it shows a complete lack of talent and work ethic.
>using AI
>REEEE YOU DIDN'T MAKE THAT!!!
>using asset store assets
>OMG YOU MADE THIS IT'S AMAZING!!!
>>717230927You're telling me that sometimes a part of a character model clips through a part of the environment?!?!?!?!
...So?
>>717231107You think I'm going to cry false equivalences or some shit but you're right. AI is useful for very much the same thing store brought assets are for. As long as the bulk of the game was your own work it really doesn't matter if the occasional shortcut was taken regarding things no one will give a shit about.
>>717231240that's a little more than clipping, shill.
>>717229864That would be the tool used to create, not the created item. Retard.
>>717229109best service samples were used all across the world, from american to korean games, you can find this shit everywhere from 1990~2010
>>717211612 (OP)>didn't make their own engine in a new language You did NOT make the game!
>>717231408I haven't even played that game. But if you're expecting anyone to be put off by that, you're one special kind of retard. What, is it literally your first video game ever? Guess what, I don't care if the character's feet don't touch every individual step when walking up and down stairs either. Does that piss you off too?
>>717230927nugamers will slurp it all up anyway so why bother?
>if you used a shield you didn't beat the game
>if you used a store asset you didn't develop the game
what's next, if you didn't build your own care you didn't learn to drive?
>>717231663Fuck off, Notch. Go back to pretending you're ever going to actually make your first game without just leeching off of others.
why are all anti-chinese anons so annoyingly insane
they all talk almost the same way too so i'm almost convinced it's just one insane retard with too much time doing the same shtick across multiple boards
>>717231985>he didn't make the indicator ticking noise himself every time he turns a corner
>>717231240so.. even ps2 games got this right.
A ledge grab is not hard to program or animate.
set up some basic points, some basic IK. E33 devs are fucking retarded.
>Nintentoddler meltdown ITT
The TGA this year is gonna be glorious.