https://www.gamesindustry.biz/valve-refutes-mastercards-denial-it-has-not-pressured-game-platforms-over-nsfw-content

>>717280974 (OP)
literally no one cares, just kys already terminally online troon coomer who can only jack off the most deviant degenerate shit possible. Mastercard and Visa are in the right this time, eat a penis

>>717280974 (OP)
I hope Masterjew Merchants die!

>>717280974 (OP)
based Gaben. Timmy would never do that.

>>717281095
I hope they go all the way and GTA 6 becomes Flanders.

>>717281095
KYS bootlicker cuck

>>717280974 (OP)
If he was fighting he would remove Visa and MasterCard from Steam completely. Go buy steam cards at the corner store.

>>717281298
stop cooming to abhorrent dogshit faggot

>>717280974 (OP)
Doesn't matter. Him and itch folded so they'll never see my money ever again

>>717281095
goycattle

>>717281095
It must be lonely, being this desperate for attention.
have you ever tried, you know, getting positive attention instead?

>>717281409
>says the mentally ill animal addicted to extreme forms of porn
NPC niggercattle supreme

stop responding to obvious bait you pathetic faggots

>>717281095

Kill yourself NOW.
Visa has no authority to prevent me from buying things.
Neither has Mastercard.
Neither has Valve for that matter.
Only I have that authority.
I am the God of my own consumption.

>>717281379
>>717281095
You are an objectively evil cuck. Seethe.

>>717281353
oy, how do you think he's going to pay his billions of dollars worth of boats without getting his infinite money?

>>717281095
Lmao, just what the fuck will you do when opposing forces capture you because even with all distractions and methods of escapism banned, people STILL won't die in your wars, cunt.

>>717281095
At least you tradcucks are finally admitting whose side you're really on: jews and feminists (who themselves are jewish pawns)

>>717281436
have you ever tried, you know, not being a nigger coomer with mental illness and an internet obssession? LMAO

>>717281379
I don't even own a single NSFW game but I'm still against censorship cuz I'm not a giant FAGGOT BOOTLICKER KEK like you.

>>717281095
How does it feel knowing you are a sheep?

>>717281095
Im so glad rockstar is shaking rn, having to rework 80% of GTA6 to meet the standers to not upset collective shout :)
Perhaps they'll hit up sweet baby for advice.

>simply responding to questions
>"fighting for us"
nah

>>717281518
>this is your brain on incest gore porn
nice schizobabble bro, learn to speak like a human being next

>>717281404
Post your steam library or you're an indian paid to shit on valve

ip counter being removed killed this site

>>717280974 (OP)
inb4 shill mods delete this thread toowonder how much Visa/Mastercard is paying them to try to suppress this?

>>717281095
BASED TRVKE, watch em seethe!

>>717281095
Why are /pol/tards like this

>>717281095
Here's your (saar), Saar

>>717280974 (OP)
YEAH BOYS LETS GOOO! YEAAAH! WE ARE WINNING, DONT STOP!
>>717281353
Wait wait wait wait..lets not go too far...Can't i just...continue harassing the people who are poor enough and uneducated enough to get a call center job? I thought that was working? I wouldn't have to change anything just doing that. Isn't that enough?

>>717281095
die mad puritranny christkek

>>717281672
>get shit on
>has to samefag to make himself feel better
Get fucked you shill fucking faggot

>>717281636
That's why it was removed.

>>717281682
why do you consume such nasty dogshit? why are you like this? no one wants you around, no one wants to be near your gore rape incest mutilation loving nigger ass.

>>717280974 (OP)
I'm not white so my life doesn't revolve around porn games

that fat fuck just bought a superyacht company, he doesn't give a fuck about you

>>717281095
TRVKE
R
V
K
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Ring Ring

>>717281738
KEK, the coomers are malding hard at this one

>>717281095
pretty sad that TBYS has the same opinion as this baiting shitposter but unironically. normally he makes good videos but he's a fucking retard when it comes to this. i wouldn't doubt he made this post himself actually

>>717280974 (OP)
Mastercard didn't censor anyone. If Valve doesn't like interacting with Mastercard, it is free to find someone else. It's a free market.

>>717281574
This. Valve censors games themselves even without payment processors getting involved. Valve can get fucked

>>717280974 (OP)
SEND YOUR ENERGY TO GABE

>>717281095
You hear that guys? He's saying gamers should call 30 times more every day!

>>717281878
>It's a free market.
It's not.

>>717281851
>is pretty sad that blimgo bungo has such an opinion he probably made this very same post too!
you retards are so terminally online you don't even realize how utterly unhinged you all sound LMAO, fucking niggers you do live in your own reality

>>717281095
>All that buzzwords in one sentence
Being terminally online has deepfried your peabrain

>>717281095
I know this is bait but it's depressing that this is genuinely the average /v/ post now

>>717281878
Theres nobody else it's a monopoly.
and no crypto doesn't count.

>>717281984
>n-no u!!
thanks for playing lil bro kek

>>717281353
Realistically speaking, what would be the outcome of that? People love convenience. Having to buy gift cards at random shops just to buy games when competing shops let you buy games in seconds would be suicide, plain and simple.
And what's to stop visa and mastercard from pressuring grocery store chains to stop selling those gift unless they want to lose access to credit card payment processing too?

>>717282010
welcome to engagement bait culture. nobody gives a shit anymore it's all about the (You)s

>>717282010
whats depressing is your life, seeing how much you care about extreme porn games being widely avaliable online

>>717281095
need to put shades on the glow is so strong

>>717280974 (OP)
GabeN is our Lord and Saviour. All hail our supreme leader.

>>717281696
kek

>>717281760
Why do you refuse to march or do anything really about the blatant pedophile cover up over Epstein? Why do you care more about fictional characters that ultimately doesnt hurt anyone over literal children being trafficked and raped by corrupt politicians? Why are you a sleazy, hypocritical faggot that pretends to be holier than thou while doing absolutely nothing to bring justice to actual children that have been harmed? Huh?

Make sure to deflect or conviently ignore this as you always do, you fucking slimy cunt.

>no one cares

>>717281095
FPBP

>>717282149
>waaaah waaaah waaaah let me fap to lolis getting decapitated!!!
just kill yourself already my man.

>>717282010
For some of us life doesn't revolve around access to fetish porn games, you should try that some time.

>>717281379
this jew is projecting so hard.

>>717281878
>n-no we arent censoring-
Yea you already tried this lie, nobody bought it. Every single time you try to make excuses for this, I will call 5 more times.

>>717281878
>It's a free market.
you're either a disingenuous fuck or a retard. Mastercard and Visa hold a near monopoly.

>>717282358
>n-no u!
ok lil bro

>>717282312
>deflects
Why do you do nothing to stop the literal pedophile ring cover up in the government, cunt? This time dont run away like a fucking pussy.

>>717282164
>cherrypicking
They're up in every other range. Yeah. Nobody cares.

65 replies and most of it is niggers baiting
Disappointing

>>717281095

>>717280974 (OP)
>billionaire with severl super yachts and is pushing AI is fighting for us
when did the rest of pc gamers get so cucked, and forget their history?

>>717282312
t. Child diddler that supports the epstein list being covered up

>>717281095
This but unironically

>>717282432
least mentally ill coomer ITT btw

good lord it's easy as shit to bait you retards

>>717282451
>they dont care so much that theyve made multiple statement to try to lie their way out about it
>they dont care at all, which is why theyre getting increasingly mad about the constant calls
Lol, gonna call 3 more times for every post you make trying to damage control.

>>717281095
I agree in part with that, if we allow this level of degenerate porn we at least need real ID verification in order to buy/consume it. Meaning, we will need the kind of digital ID verification that the UK is proposing. Either that or we can just ban the porn and not ask for ID verification at all. Doing both, banning porn and requiring an ID, is excessive , though, while doing neither is a recipe for disaster.

>>717282010
Zoomies REALLY need that dopamine rush from getting engagement, social media has fried their brains that way. It's the modern equivalent of a little kid acting out, they don't know any better.

>>717281459
you live to serve jews and push the kike culture war psyop just like the trannies

>>717282528
>deflects
I said why the FUCK arent you doing anything about the epstein list, cunt? Why do you carr about drawings more than actual children being raped by pedophile politicians?

>>717281353
>He should cripple his payment infrastructure for obscure fetish games that sell a max of less than 1000 copies in their lifetime on steam.
I dunno bud seems like a bit of a silly move
>>717281404
Imagine being that smooth-brained. Instead of listening to retards on 4chins you could validate things for yourself. Most of the porn games are already back on itch.io. they just removed the NSFW tag for review temporarily.
>>717281492
You are just an angry coomer/pedo who is scared of his loli being taken away. I guarantee if it was regarding something you were against or didn't care about you would not have the same reaction. It's just posturing and appeal to rope other losers into raising a stink on behalf of pedos/degens like yourself. Also imagine paying for porn that in itself is subhuman troglodyte behavior.

>>717281524
>This guy doesn't wanna save "Corruption of my totally underage sister" featuring the vore, scat, rape, loli tags!? He must be a jew and a feminist since thats the only thing that makes sense

Ultimately those who claim they are anti censorship are just lying. The stuff being "censored" is fringe at best and that is being generous. Not to mention is still available and it's just stuff like Mastercard not wanting to be associated with extreme spectrums of porn which really isn't that surprising

i don't even consume these games but for some reason it does feel like a hill worth dying on.
fuck those dumb aussie cunts

>>717280974 (OP)
Very white

>>717281095
Very brown

>>717282609
keep calling bro, if you only applied 10% of all this effort you put to porn games online into your own life you wouldn't have to be a greasy smelly lonely nigger who collects EBT and is unemployed, make sure to call 100 times today bro, I know you have the time ;)

>>717281379
>saar I generated it

>>717281095
Europeans should have executed Puritans instead of banishing them to the New World

>>717282528
>I LOVE THAT TRUMP AND CLINTON RAPE CHILDREN
>NOOOOOOOO IS THAT A 15 YEAR OLD FICTIONAL CHARACTER?!?!? WONT ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN????
kill yourself, child fucker

>>717281095
Holy based

>>717282787
kek, your brain really is fried and beyond hope, this is the power of coom

>>717282720
Ill be sure to tell my wife that next time I fuck her, probably tonight. Ill have to wait for my 1 year old child to get a little older so that they understand

>>717282871
>pedo admits to have a child
damn lemme tip the FBI real quick, thanks for the heads up! one children saved from a pedo

>>717282720
+3

>>717282451
>It's afraid

>>717282978
>posts a 5 day trade window
LMAO now post the last 5 years please mr coomer thanks

>>717282940
Kek please do so I can press charges on a false claim, I would love to retire early off your dime. Plus since you defend epstein shit, you probably fuck kids too so getting you off the streets will be a win win

>>717282054
>>717282364
Valve has enough pull to convince people who have 200+ games in their steam library to use a different payment method. Would anyone really go "hmm they removed Visa and MasterCard as a payment option, so I will just buy that game on this other platform in which I own zero games"? No they would go to any corner store or even more convenient, get a steam gift code from amazon or any gift card online store. It's not rocket science.

>>717282849
>I love raping real life children
Yea we know, kill yourself you subhuman freak

>>717283071
>schizo is still debating delusions inside his brain
damn you schizopedos are insane, FBI tipped!

>>717282149
Unironically you are right, unless someone is actively trying to do something about epstein and goverment pedos, they literally have no right complaining about porn that don't involve real people. If you have time to complain online about porn, you should uironically call your representative and complain about the epstein files instead. Unless you already did that, then you can complain about porn I guess

>>717282871
>Totally has a wife
>Kidnapped Child
Yeah okay dude, if you were casually fucking your wife and and a kid then you really wouldn't care what happens to some obscure porn games unless of course you were telling lies on the internet but you wouldn't do that would you?
>>717282978
>Not posting the YTD

>>717283147
are you ok little fella? you seem rustled jej

>>717283156
You didnt do shit buyt I hope you did, like I said, would love to destroy you in court and live off your dime :^)

>>717283070
>No one cares
>Keeps posting
Curious

>>717283265

>>717283235
>little fella
Keep your freak fetish away from me, child fucker

>>717283078
I mean I already use Paypal and Steam Cards, but I think Mastercard has ways to control people. They'll probably demand penance or something if you try to cut ties.

>>717283187
Extremely blatant samefaggery at work here.
>There's this one thing going on so you shouldn't carry about anything else.
This may be hard to believe but people can in fact care about more than one issue. But I suppose you are so preoccupied with getting of to children to care about anything else so the concept is lost upon you

>>717283334
nice frog

>>717283317
>gets called out for being a nigger posting a 5 day trade window
>instead of posting the YTD the nigger now posts some random twitter screencap in a pathetic attempt to damage control
>GOALPOST? MOVED
kek

Is this whole problem affecting China too? He's been licking their boots these past few years, so it probably has to do with that

>>717283189
>n-nobody would-
If you werent a permavirgin LARPing retard, youd know that people still consume porn while being married and fucking regularly. It fulfills different needs.

>>717283265
>Teleports behind you
>Takes you to court
Heh nothing personel kid
>Lives of your dime.
God how can one be so cool

>>717283449
>being a degenerate subhuman is perfectly normal and sane!!!
sure buddy

>>717283413
>gets mad that someone agrees that real children are more important than ink blots

Why are mods deleting this thread? Do they get paid by Mastercard or Visa?

Some people in this thread seem really upset that others would dare to push back against their ideological censorship
>no we're the good guys we're banning porn
Weird how they're not going after mindgeek or onlyfans, it's almost like christcucks are being used as useful idiots
No, surely it's the gooners who are wrong, surely the mindgeek porn is next on the list?

>>717283526
nice ESL coomer retard

>>717283509
>it is perfectly normal to defens pedophile cover ups while prioritizing the safety of fictional characters
Sure buddy

>>717283581
Shut up janny

>>717283449
Sounds like your marriage sucks or isn't real to begin with. Consuming porn is one thing but caring about obscure niche porn is another. Also I'm not the one trying to prove I "fuck" on a Mongolian Basket Weaving Forum. I'd say one the trying to come off as a porn consuming stallion that fucks his model wife every night might in fact be the permavirigin

>>717283608
this nigga is completely lost in the sauce LMAO, it's like reading a random text generator at this point, sad shit.

>>717283509
Stop fucking kids, freak

>>717282718
When it comes to censorship and the "think of the children argument" it never stops.
Good example was the comics code authority
>morality police see kids reading horror, scifi, and western comics
>also adults with dirty Tijuana bibles
>enact law where they have to be approved to sale to mass market
>kill off almost every comic subgroup but hero comics and even those were severely neutered
>took almost 40 years to get rid of the comics code authority
Let governments and payment processors run wild with this and it'll kill large swaths of indie games with the real potential to finally kill off some problematic games for political gain (horror games, adult games like gta and saints row)

Even the fucking leftists trannies should be fighting the shit because faggotry in games is just as much on the chopping block as anything else.

>inb4 all the censorship is to kill off much of the free market in games, porn, and drawn porn where only the big companies ran by the jews and chosen goyim can profit

Thanks for the (You)s /v/tards!
I'm taking a screencap and posting it in my grummz and pirate nation accounts lmao.
Feelsgood making free money from retards.

>>717283078
>Valve has enough pull to convince people who have 200+ games in their steam library to use a different payment method.
No, it really doesn't. Not when the only alternatives are buying gift cards at grocery stores, or cryptocurrencies whose value varies wildly and the sites you can buy them at seem shady to say the least. Most people will pick the option that just werks for them.

>>717281095
Niggercattle or fed, can't tell....

>>717283678
a personal confession, perhaps? It's ok anon, you can reach out for help, you will be treated well in jail ;)

Sharty lost

>>717281095
based

>>717283413
Learn to read, nigga. I literally said that if you already called your representative you have every right to complain online. The thing is, you just can't ignore real irl degeneracy while you complain about porn degeneracy. One is clearly worse than the other. I'm literally on your side, retard. We unironically need to do something about the availability of degenerate porn, especially to teenagers.

>>717283514
Never said that, notice how I said care about multiple issues? Again you make it about a singular thing. Simply unable to view multiple things.
>You you you don't like this thing so you totally support this other thing
You brain really is addled isn't it?
>>717283608
You are probably the same loser too. But not supporting one thing does not constitute another especially when they are unrelated.

>>717283751
I said to stop fucking kids you subhuman pedo ring cover up apologist.

>>717281095
Based. Even broken clock something something fuck coomers.

>>717283843
>keep screaming at the mirror, you almost got yourself!

>>717283676
Stop raping children, freak

>>717283439
an entirely separate Chinese steam is a thing and China already has several sovereign chink processors backed by the chink dollar
in fact, all animosity directed at sovereign processors should specifically be seen under the light of burgers and the backing of the burger dollar

>>717283842
>>717283897
>I love trying to ban porn games while I fuck real life children
Shut the fuck up, freak. I hope that you get hung by your testicles

>>717281095
Helo SAAR

>>717283915
I'm glad your child is actually not real and just a fabrication of your feeble mind, it would be sad af to have some unhinged porn addicted lunatic like you as a parent lol

>>717283691
>Compares comics to fringe/extreme porn
No it's you retards that act like the two instance are the same. Most people don't like loli, scat, vore, et all just floating around on the internet

>>717280974 (OP)
Gabe himself has not done anything

>>717283715
You are retarded, next time you buy a game on steam check the payment methods available to you before the purchase. Valve removing 2 options and maybe substituting it with 2 other options will have zero impact on a steam gamer with a large library who is dead set on adding games to their steam account.

>>717283994
So why do you defend epstein pedophile cover ups?

>>717281095
based take

>the best reponse the brain damaged coomers can muster is to scream CHILD FUCKER CHILD FUCKER CHILD FUCKER endlessly at the void.
kek you sure showed everyone lads!

>>717284002
Then dont fucking look for it, godamn you dense cocksucker

>>717284101
>doesnt refute it
>cant explain why he would rather cry about fictional characters rather than helping real children
You lost

I'm noticing a trend. Everytime someone make a topic regarding this issue.

Either the OP title is a bait or the first reply is bait comment (such as this one).

>>717280974 (OP)
Consider this: MC and Visa have fucked up so grievously, they have forced the unthinkable.
Steam is actually DOING something...

Have yiu guys ever noticed that the people that cry about underage fictional characters and other shit always end up being freaks that fuck real life children?

>>717284183
Its being surpressed unless the shills are up to defend and spread discord. Mods delete threads when shills arent around to defend Visa

>>717284257
Yeah I have, genuinely happens a lot, those who cry about the harmless tend to be those who harm, I wonder why that is?
Probably to distract people from their own real sins

>>717284452
Projection, plain and simple. They feel guilty so they lash out

>>717284221
Usually that character ends up jobbing so the actual MC can do something though.
Question is, who's the MC?

>>717281095
I LOVE THE HAYS CODE I LOVE THE HAYS CODE

>>717281379
what's lue supposed to be

>>717281095
the internet was better when it was for weirdos that ick out normies

How strange, the anons defending Visa and crying about coomers all stopped posting all at once, simultaneously about 10 minutes ago. What an amazing coincidence.

>>717284739
Lunch break for shills, give it about 15-45 minutes

>>717284183
you're beginning to understand
2+ retards (or one if he samefags) can start these shit-flinging threads for fun here with no intention of expressing an actual opinion knowing that it works every fucking time and there's nothing anyone can do about it
if it's not too late for you, leave while you can

>>717284739
Some of us have work or studies you know, other stuff to do in general

>>717284878
Ah yes, and all of you had to do it all at once, how curious. Really is astounding how the ppm suddenly dropped for this thread. Very organic.

>>717284878
>theres nothing suspicious goy stop noticing
Your shart raid got BTFO again lol.

>>717284878
Its fucking August

>>717284739
Sadly all it takes is a a private discord of cunts, the IDF, indians, or just 1 massive samefag to ruin a thread or to make a topic a tidal wave of shit.

No steam user with a library larger than 100+ games would stop buying games in it if valve removed visa and MasterCard as a payment option. Prove me wrong shills (if your lunchbreak is over).

>>717280974 (OP)
>fighting for us
>immediately complies with their demands
lmao

>>717280974 (OP)
REMINDER

We now know who the true mastermind is now. The conservative christian group is just A cover for Russ Vought, a co-writer for Project 2025, Director of the United States Office of Management and Budget, AND Acting Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

This man has already publicly stated his desire to have pornographic content, violent video games, and other types of content "harmful to children", banned from the internet.

In a two minute clip posted on YouTube by The Intercept the following transcript, highlighted in yellow, shows his intended starting point (start with children), and then he cuts himself off from explaining the next part of the plan, of violent video games, etc, as that route had failed twice already in the past few decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0noIS9lmR0Y

Now, in his position in the CFPB, he has ultimate authority over payment providers and banks, and he has likely been abusing this power to strong-arm changes in these privately owned businesses regarding content he specifically had shown his distaste and hatred towards previously. All clearly telegraphed before hand, many years ago.

>>717281095
Lmao get fucked you fucking roast beef cunt bitch.
Those cats aren't going to replace your lack of a fucking family. Imagine being such a fucking worthless woman you can't even start let alone keep a fucking family. You're a genetic dead-end. You're even worse than single men in their 40s still virgins.
You're ran-through.
Fucking kill yourself, you have nothing left to offer anyone you've hit the wall.

>>717284739
What else is there to say? Visa and Mastercard can suck my dick, they have no right to deny payment. Digital ID for everyone consuming porn is a necessity, though.

>>717285063
I don't accept credit card as a payment option to begin with, I use the faster and free bank transfers my country offers. The world will be so much better when amerimutts die off.

>>717285063
I mean it's not a matter of wanting.
If Paypal also joined in, what options would Steam users have in places like the US?
Some places have other ways to pay, but what do US anons users?

>>717280974 (OP)
He's fighting for your money, not you.

>MFW I'm not a dumb butt hurt Steamie therefore this doesn't affect me!
It feels good, lads!

Pirate Chad (PC) Gamers unite!

>>717285063
I've been using my credit card less and less in general for a while, now I buy gift cards instead. Doing that for Steam would be a non-issue for me.

>>717285336
I'd rather give my money to someone who at least tries to pretend to give a shit about consumers over shareholders.
Valve is not a savior of any kind, but they're the lesser of the evils out there today.
If that makes me a cuck whatever.

>>717285257
This. Credit cards are a scam. As an American I am required to have one in order to hold a job or rent an apartment. No credit = no life.
I pay off my "debt" on time every time and my credit score gets lower and lower every month because I'm not a good debtmaxxing slave.

>>717285251
>ID for porn is necessary
Why? How does it help? Why do you think teens wont extremely easily circumvent it? Why do corporations get to police things that should be policed by parents?

>>717285354
>piratefag HAS to tell us about how he is a piratefag or else he dies
>piratefag is too retarded to understand how this could in fact affect him
You people are as insufferable as you are fucking stupid.

>>717285469
Today's parents are millennials, AKA the laziest generation of all time. They aren't even willing to go grocery shopping, they get their groceries delivered.
Of course they beg the government to parent for them.

>>717284739
You can also notice they all use a script.
>Kids
>Coomer
>Gooner
>Degenerate
>Dogshit
>Demoralization
They're afraid.

>>717285251
Tell you what, I will agree to thatif you can absolutely gaurentee that personal info will be secure and wont be leaked into the world. And if it does leak, the body responsible for securing the information has to pay 10000% of the damages owed from a leak. Sound fair?

Fuck off, there is zero reason to track people on that shit other than control and data harvesting. Its none of your fucking business if I want to beat off to anime girls stepping on snails or some degen shit. If you disagree, then post your fucking search history all over your social media rightnow

>>717280974 (OP)
>Fighting for us
If he were "fighting for us" he would have not taken the games down in the first place and either appealed their request to take the games down or kicked shit up making allegations of them being a monopoly and abusing their power before taking them down for them.
Not licked boots and told everyone he was forced to do it.

>>717285745
It's called defence in depth.
You can't just hold a static line against a superior force. You gotta step up points of defence and let them exhaust themselves on each point, before a counter attack.

>>717285540
No millenial Ive talked to wants this, wether they have kids or not. And yes, I talk to millenial parents about it because Im one as well, I have a toddler and another on the way. Every millenial Ive spoken to uniformily opposes it.

>>717285745
He literally did and ignore shit like collectove shout for years.

>>717285524
>being this dense and butt hurt because I pirate PC games and console games!
Calm down, you pesky little moral fag!

>this could in fact affect him
I like how you said "could" because even you know that your source is your ass, you lying butt hurt retard! Stop pulling shit out of your ass!

>>717285816
He didn't start talking shir to Mastercard until itch.io got their games removed and people started complaining. He is a pussy

>>717283078
i literally don't have any way of paying on stea, besides visa/mastercard because for some reason valve only lets my country pay with those so yes i wouldn't ever buy anything from steam again because i'd be literally unable to, or i'd need to play 2-4 times the price for gift cards

>>717285656
What world you must live in to think that random retards on 4chan in anyway scare Visa/Mastercard.
>Heh, you can easily tell who they are when they call us out for what we are.

Obviously you are unable to admit what you are but if you are freaking out about porn games disappearing you fall under those monikers.
It is pure and utterly delusion. You clearly lead a really sad life if you feel as though you are leading some revolution via your keyboard.

>>717285313
U.S. anons could google search "steam gift cards" and top off their steam wallet that way. Could even buy it on amazon and get delivered instantly over email. It's not rocket sciens and i'd wager a real steam user who has a large library of games in it would do it just so they can continue to lay their games on steam. O believe people whoargue against itust be paid off by visa or mastercard to psyop us.

>>717285743
Holding big corporations responsible is a fucking hilarious proposition today. Of course they will get away with it. Look at Zuckerberg. That filthy fucking Kike has been stealing and selling your data for over a decade now.
Has he had to suffer any consequences?
Get real. If you give these mother fuckers an Inch they take a mile.
When the fuck will your peasant brain comprehend this shit? Have you learned nothing? Fucking hell...
You probably believe we have a democracy, too.
We don't. We have a fucking Oligarchy of tech giants who are free to rape children. Open your fucking eyes.

>>717285995
>pls ignore the multiple attempts to damage control and the increasing hostility in call lines
Lol

>>717285996
Wouldn't the payment processors cut off any attempt to buy through shit like gift cards? Or do those methods accept other payment methods?
Regardless, Europe would be safe since there's other means of topping off your wallet just about everywhere. We do not need Visa and MC.

>>717286005
Anon, read the second half of my post. I purposefully said that because we all know something reasonable like I said isnt going to fucking happen, therefore fuck anyone trying to say shit like "noooo we NEED the corporations to regulate porn!" because we have fucking leaks of private info every other week

>>717285131
>we have to force draconian surveillance by getting rid of online anonymity in order to save muh children from porn
>doesn't actually end up banning porn
>porn is still available but you'll have to doxx yourself now
>also you'll have to doxx yourself for everything else non-pornographic too
kek these christian zealots are fucking insane and always end up doing the bidding of the jews one way or the other

>>717285469
>>717285743
Afraid people will know your sick fetishes? Good, that's the whole point. If you watch degenerate porn you will have your name personally tied to all that shit. Every time you watch porn you will have to think "what if it gets leaked that I watched this..." Maybe if you are afraid you will be somewhat less inclined to do it. Either way, it makes porn harder to access for teenager so that's already a win. The psychological terror against coomers is just a bonus.

>>717285917
You will never have a real personality.

>>717286084
That is your own copium overdose leading you to think that is actually doing something. It is far easier for them to take a stance against fetish based porn then it is for them to backtrack and say they are okay with it.
>What are automated replies
>What is AI
I can assure you there is more support for not platforming fetish porn then there is for it. If you cannot wrap your head around that simple fact you are rocking a room temp IQ.
>Born to late to discover new lands
>Born to early to travel space
>Born just in time to defend fetish games
I get it, life is boring and a cause is a cause but you are fighting for something so lame

>>717286315
>no actual argument
>appeals to emotion to own le coomers
How does someone beating off to some degen porn affect you in any way?
>teenager will have a harder time
Lmao yea just like how that UK law passing totally thwarted them right? Oh wait, they found a work around in less than a day.

>>717285743
>"How does that affect you personally"
Bitch, It is my business. It affects me personally every time I have to interact with the coombrain retards around here that can't go five seconds without talking about porn or fetishes.

>>717286397
>its copium that they made multiple damage control statements and are getting pissed off at the line being tied up
No buddy, pretty sure thats an irrefutable fact. 3 more calls for effort.

>>717286302
>Draconian
>Implementing age verification for content that is 18+

Look I'm not a fan of IDs for porn but honestly, I'm surprised some system other than me confirming an arbitrary DOB was not instituted sooner.
>ID for porn
>It's the jews
Also imagine thinking that you really have true anonymity on the internet in the first place. I dunno if you don't know this but incognito doesn't actually stop Big Brother from knowing what you watch.

>>717286553
>cant filter
>cant ignore things he doesnt like so everyone must suffer
Ok, I have to see retarded puriteens like you LARP every day here. When are they going to ban teenagers from the internet uniformly since they irk me and many others with their idiotic takes?

When they said you'll own nothing, they meant it.
Being happy is just a way to say it won't matter if you're happy about it or not. They're elites, they wouldn't give a fuck if you had to drink your own piss to survive as long as you were under control and posed no harm to their lives.

>>717286549
See >>717286553
Even if there is a workaround, it's about making it harder to impossible. Even if 1 in 20 teenagers end up not doing it because of that, it's already a net positive

>>717286726
kill yourself glownigger

>>717286624
Irrefutable? Brother your source is directly from your ass.

>>717286553
Why cant you go to your own multitude of spaces that are sfw only? Why are you so selfish that you want to punish the 98% of people that consume porn from ages 18-60 just because of some obnoxious people?

>>717280974 (OP)
Clearly the right approach is scream testing.
Put the porn games back on Steam, and just see what happens. When user payments fail to process follow the paper trail till you find whoever is the problem and blame them directly.

>>717286834
Oh boy, the tourist knows the silly term. Sorry dude but you are rarded if you think anything I said was false

>>717280974 (OP)
Not really. Gay Ben just doesn't want to take the blame. He is fighting for his fat gay ass.

>>717286804
Despite what doompillers say, companies are indeed extremely sensitive and will freak out and act defensive whenever any action is being done against them, they're no different than any other human.

>>717281353
have you ever considered there might be a reason why gaben is one of the most successful people in gaming and you're stuck here shitposting on 4chan? he should 100% take your advice anon, im sure that will go down as the greatest business move in history

>>717286953
>rarded
good morning saar

>>717280974 (OP)
Common Gaben W

>>717286808
It is absolutely not a net positive because teenagers (14-18) are a miniscule amount of porn consumers compared to 18-60 users. This makes the vast majority of peoples life harder on the idea that 5% less teens will look at porn. That is a net negative. It is the parent's perogative to police their children, mind your fucking business. Or if you insist on this, then OF and every social media better delete all of their porn content by next week.

>>717287063
Just keep parroting the random things you see on /V/. You are still mentally crippled considering your argument had been nothing.

>>717287147
beep boop slash your throat fed beep boop

>>717286872
>it didnt happen
Literally look at the last statement from Visa. Call them and see what happens when you talk about this shit. Stop trying to pretend that nothing happened, we have eyes and ears

>>717286732
Okay, retard. Tell me, how I am suppose to filter any more than this? Even with all of this about one third of the threads still end up being coomer threads that are impossible to filter. You are probably just so used to porn you don't even notice but almost everything that gets posted on /v/ is either coomer or commer bait.

>>717286726
The Internet is the only free forum on the entire planet.
If you don't like that, implement restrictions on your own network. Do not force it on everybody else.

The people who are actually defending this without an ounce of irony will start seething when they're forced to use their ID to verify for their groomcord, X and JewTube account btw

>>717281224
Yaya Panda CUTE!
Oh, sorry. Li Li Stormstout CUTE!

>>717287230
Oh no how sad :(

>>717286808
>see this post of some retard being mad that he walked into spaces that are nsfw or very loosely regulated sfw spaces and found nsfw things
What does this prove besides the fact that youre a soft faggot? One of the first things I wandered into on 4chan back in the day is a link to some guy fucking a chicken. Like a live fucking chicken. Stop being a soft fucking pussy, you have a gorrillian ways to filter things now.

>>717281353
Anyone who sold Steam cards would also be debanked until they removed them from their store

>>717287115
Lol dude, look I'm not for IDs. I do think something needs to change but if you legit don't think that most teens are consuming porn you are actually braindead retarded. The internet is extremely accessible. A parent can only do so much but when you have kids accessing shit from their smart fridge it gets hard to tie down every loose end they can use. Hell, when i was middle school I used my DS to watch porn. Also yeah OF vanishing would legit be a net positive for society

>>717286804
Well, the time is coming. Time for a sequel.
>>717285354
The narmalization of censoring videogames will affect everyone even if some stores are resisting it more than others.
>ITCH .io did not resist at all and neither did Steam
What we are seeing currently is Steam covering their ass cus they smell the angry gamers.

it is bad enough that theres people who actually refuse to do anything against something that is obviously wrong and even more illegal than actually buying porn (which it is NOT since the average person who buys porn is actually a proper adult with a job and proper salary who just wants to enjoy the fruits of his suffering), but those asshats just coming here and GLOAT as well as diss on people who want to fix things?

why do they do that? do VISA and MC pay them, does the govt. pay them, are they sick? i want answers, dammit!

>>717286885
>Some obnoxious people
It's not some, it's all of them. Porn fucks your brain so much you literally become unable to think about anything else, like a lot of people around here. There is no sfw space that is not also cucked/gay/full of trannies. 8 chan used to have some boards with very low nsfw content, but thanks to glowies it's gone now. I would much rather still be using 8 chan instead of this garbage website, but unfortunately I can't.

>>717287230
>youre just used to porn
Youre so close. Anon, literally anything can be a fetish, so you will need to filter everything to meet your ideology. Some people fap to ankles and collar bones.

If people being horny and posting softcore shit offends you, then you dont belong here as its always been here. Thats ok to, there are a million fucking places on the internet that strictly enforces sfw only. Why do you NEED to be here? Why do you NEED to go against the grain? Maybe consider that if its that overwhelming for you, that YOU are the minority. To which, why should we conform to YOU?

>>717281095
Based
Total zoomer death

>>717280974 (OP)
>for us
You mean for money

>>717287193
Watch it with the edge. Gonna end up slashing yourself.
>>717287195
>Call them about the thing they have heard about
>Get hung up on for spam calling
Yeah dude, you do know the people you are calling are just bottom tier waggies. Do you really think their suffering effects the actual people that make choices at Visa. The answer would be a resounding no.
>>717287247
>Internet free in 2025
The internet hasn't been free since 2007. Also imagine being that naive.
>Your network
Ignore the near infinite networks someone can access. It's as easy as going to a friends house, the gym, literally anywhere with a connection.

>>717287297
the retards who think its a good thing are old people and those in the government so it most likely wont affect them. being a zoomer and actually defending this though will just result in instant regret

>>717285251
It's also necessary that you take gene therapy, welcome infinity migrants, use a CBDC, have a social credit score, implant a microchip, eat bugs, live in a pod, and own nothing. Think of the children!!

>>717287652
See >>717287597

>>717287836
>waggies
SAAR

>>717281095
>literally no one cares, just kys already terminally online troon coomer who can only jack off the most deviant degenerate shit possible. Mastercard and Visa are in the right this time, eat a penis
You're the troon here.

>>717287050
Oh, lunchbreak is over and gotta go back to shill for your daddy?

>>717288028
Amazing counter argument. The way you hyperfixate really shows how autistic you are. You are so incapable of forming a simple thought that you have to resort to generic NPC responses

>>717281952
Don't stop complaining, keep up the pressure.

>>717287597
>It's not some, it's all of them.
If you feel this way, than you are the minority. Why should we conform to you?
>Porn fucks your brain so much you literally become unable to think about anything else, like a lot of people around here.
List a single peer reviewed, scholarly article that supports this in any way. Anything in excess is bad dipshit.
>There is no sfw space that is not also cucked/gay/full of trannies.
Not my problem, should have done something to keep them out if it bothered you.
> 8 chan used to have some boards with very low nsfw content, but thanks to glowies it's gone now. I would much rather still be using 8 chan instead of this garbage website, but unfortunately I can't.
Again, not my fucking problem

How about this anon: Nobody, and I mean NOBODY here gives a single shit that you are asexual and easily offended. Does that upset you? I dont care. You are a minority. You are now cheering on censorship because you cant get your fee fees in order. This makes you a soft fucking faggot. Get the FUCK off my website if you dont like this.

>>717288320
beep boop slit your wrists glowie beep boop

>>717288421
Yeah, I also don't give a shit about your "right" to consume porn. So what?

>>717281353
>steam cards
Q: I want to make sure steam gift cards don't give as much in transaction fees to visa and MC first.

>in the year 2025, the only thing stopping companies and the government from turning the world into a dystopia, are gamers and trannies

>>717285063
russian here. Its really not that big of a deal if you can't use mastergoy

>>717280974 (OP)
>fighting is when you instantly give into all demands and get nothing in return

>>717287836
>Get hung up on for spam calling
Thats the fun part, they literally cant ignore calls or they get fired :)

Also cute how you suddenly didnt talk about them making a damage control statement. And not addressing that I was right about the call lines getting more hostile.

>>717288320
Not him, but there is no need to counterargument because you said that something didnt happen when we have literal proof that it did and still is going. Your feelings on the matter are irrelevant, you were objectively, irrefutably wrong. Because they DID make a damage control statement and the call lines ARE hostile to callers about this.

>>717281224
should we start using panda pay? it's like visa and mastercard but controlled by the chinese?

>zero policy changes
>"we are winning guys"

>>717281353
Steam used to allow bitcoin as payment in checkout. Interesting how they don't use it as a solution and only point fingers while complying like good little goyim...

>>717288682

>>717280974 (OP)
>Chadstercard: "We didn't tell them to take it down. Go ahead and put it back up."
>Valve: *sweating profusely* "N-No, you said we can't have it so it has to stay down."

>>717288523
Sure, but dont try to take the fucking morality "holier than thou" approach when your entire argument is that you were too stupid and weak to gatekeep your mickey mouse fun club. It is not anyone's fucking problem that you wont conform to the norm of the site and demanding this is retarded. We outnumber you. And heres a free hint: even if they found a way to ban everything, people will still post softcore shit here just to spite obnoxious cocksuckers such as yourself.

You are a selfish faggot. Your wants do not outweigh the wants of many. Dont try to hide your selfishness using teenagers as a fucking shield, it was never about protecting them. Mainly because teens fuck each other all the time.

>>717288764
reminder the call centers have your number from whenst you faggots harassed the employees.
you will be sued.
you will face repercussions for your behavior you insist is inconsequential.
and it will be justice.

>>717288958
lol

Just to make sure, we all love /ss/ here right?

>>717286302
That's what make it insidious, porn won't be banned, but conservatives will just create a massive database of everyone who looks at porn and use it to blackmail you.

>>717288958
>asking questions is harassment
Kek ok buddy. The best thing I usually ask is why they allow literal child trafficking to be processed but mongolian ink blots are too far. I hope they are stupid enough to try to sue me over that, I would love to go scorched earth and openly expose the things they keeps sweeping under the rug to the public eye.

>>717286302
well they worship a kike

>>717288958
>SAAR STOP CALLING BENCHOD BLOODY BASTARD

>>717288685
Huh. It seems that they still allow bitcoin, but only through an intermediary, that adds it to your wallet.

>>717287297
They're getting paid for it. Nobody with half a brain actually thinks this is a good idea.

>>717289112
Unless they get special privileges, they will be part of that and the data will inevitably be leaked.

>>717282054
>>717281353
If he does this then the next move is for payment companies to pressure physical markets like corner stores to stop selling steam cards. Then what? There's already issue with steam card scarcity in certain areas.

>>717288618
>Trust me bro it's totally happening.
You say these things but have yet to provide any proof for it. Again, yeah, it wouldnt be a surprise if they are being hostile as I'm sure the calls they are getting are in no way friendly. People like you paint a clear picture of the context of the calls they receive.

Also you are just restating but ignoring that I'm saying the pain and suffering of the bottom tier workers does not affect the actual people who make choices at that company. You are literally nothing more then the generic millenal coomer who is looking for a cause and feels like the contribution is far more meaningful than it really is. You unironically live in a world of delusion and are so far gone that you can't think for yourself and need someone to tell you the current events

>>717289332
It patches the problem and shows that they are absolutely trying to power grab. The hope is that by that point we have something else to move to for payment processors

>>717288884
>even if they found a way to ban everything
No is asking for that, retard. I'm against the banning, I'm the digital ID anon. I'm not the anon cheering for mastercard and visa. You keep talking about numbers, what are you a democracy cuck? Who cares about the "wants of the many"? I couldn't give two shits about that.
>Mainly because teens fuck each other all the time.
Okay but that has nothing to do with access to degenerate porn. Even if the "wants of the many" actually happen, most people are actually in favor of protecting teenagers from porn, the people making our laws know that which is why they disguise legislation aimed at censorship with that intent.

>>717289262
>Unless they get special privileges
They already do that, look the Video Privacy Protection Act.
Also defeats the whole point conservatives building a massive blacklist catalog, and not making sure they're off it.

>>717288639
The ramifications of western card companies chasing off people to chinese banking options might be pretty funny.

>>717289385
>millenal
SAAAAAAAR

>>717288806
Read the article in the OP. Mastercard needs to specify what constitutes "unacceptable content" since intermediary payment processors are citing Mastercard's ambiguous rules to coerce Steam into blocking or removing content or being denied service.

>>717289385
>You say these things but have yet to provide any proof for it.
Literally call them and talk about it. What the fuck am I supposed to do, record my call and post it here? Why would hundreds of reports confirming similar things be lying in the exact same manor?
>Also you are just restating but ignoring that I'm saying the pain and suffering of the bottom tier workers does not affect the actual people who make choices at that company.
Their lines being continuously swamped is not good for them. AGAIN, they made a couple of damage control statements already. It bothers them, cope all you want.

>>717280974 (OP)
Female browsers, contact me on Discord. Tag: j1bunw00

more so if you enjoy videogames, anime, and all artistiic and creatiive—whether it's loIi, Pokemon, Fate, Dragon Quest, Limbus Company, Bravely Default, Fire Emblem, /m/ series, Kemono, SMT, Mega Man, Monogatari, RWBY, Digimon, Disgaea or series like , Sonic, 3D SFM, Castlevania, Touhou,and more.Danganronpa, Monster Hunter, Final Fantasy, and more

>>717281878
>It's a free market

>>717280974 (OP)
That's not fighting just giving more details. If they wanted to fight they could relist those games but offer them with a different payment method like crypto. Just mention it on the page and have them filterable like adult games. Everyone would win. Steam being less dependent on credit card companies and mastercard not having to earn revenue with stuff they don't like.

>>717289495
>I'm the digital ID anon
Cool, mind actually answering the questions I asked such as how the fuck its a "net positive" for 5% of a small fraction of all porn users to be prevented at the expense of everyone else?
>UM WELL I DONT CARE ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT
We know.
>Okay but that has nothing to do with access to degenerate porn. Even if the "wants of the many" actually happen, most people are actually in favor of protecting teenagers from porn
No, most people are in favor of parents regulating their fucking children. If you need a corporation to be a parent for you, then youre a shit fucking parent, full stop.

Kneecaping people that are looking for porn specifically while doing nothing about OF and the massive amount of porn on social media is fucking laughable. Stop making excuses, stop trying to make this about the children. It isnt. You know it isnt.

>>717289385
>You are literally nothing more then the generic millenal coomer who is looking for a cause and feels like the contribution is far more meaningful than it really is.
And you are a shill zoomer faggot that is LARPing as a puriteen when you infact beat off 5 times a day.

>>717289617
Not what I asked. Show me the statement from Visa that totally shows any form of remorse. You keep talking about the statements yet don't provide a singular imagine regarding them. I can assure you they will just institute a policy to ignore yall. I'm sure if the loads continue it will turn into online support or having to leave a message. Again I can promise you the credit card company does not care about the people answering the calls at the end of the day.
Also why would people claim something on the internet? Literally hundreds are claiming they are super upset. Again I highly doubt the conversation starts cordial secondly people love to exaggerate on the internet. It's not like people don't lie? Random people saying oh yeah they are getting angry is called hearsay.

>>717288958
LOL. The next time I call them, I'm going to let them know what a terrible job their social media team is doing. My family has businesses, and knowing about business risks from payment processors acting on the orders of completely unknown, non governmental entities is a 100 percent valid and important one.

If you were doing your fucking job, you should be clearing the air on exactly who and how these decisions are being made. I mean its like you're out to ruin their reputations with this garbage.

>>717290247
>you should be clearing the air on exactly who and how these decisions are being made
not defending the other anon but you seriously think Rajeesh and Singh know why the board makes decisions?

>>717281952

>>717280974 (OP)
mastercard right now

>>717283558
>christcucks
>in 4chan
They're larpers

>>717290230
Never once have a poised as a puritan. I totally beat off. I just don't jerk off to the types of fetish porn that are being targeted. I'm also just stating the objective truth that you people are grossly overestimating the impact you have on this situation.

Also in case you must know I only do it once before bed after which I sleep like a baby.

>>717280974 (OP)
ok but will it go anywhere? I don't get the impression gamers are harrassing visa/mastercard enough

the scale of the backlash isn't enough

>>717290243
>Not what I asked. Show me the statement from Visa that totally shows any form of remorse.
Not the argument.
Here you said it was copium that they already damage controlled and that hotlines are getting hostile >>717286397
I said it was irrefutable here >>717286624
You then proceeded to say I was talking out my ass here >>717286872, after which I told you to look at their latest posts and to call the center. You then danced around this until I call you out on it here >>717288618

Now you are moving the goalpost and making excuses. Then made a damage control statement. This is irrefutable. The hotlines are hostile about it as per personal experience and many other reports of the same thing from many different people. This is irrefutable, and I invited you to try it yourself if you didnt believe me.

You are objectively wrong. Your feefees and interpretations on implications on the matter are irrelevant. You disputed a statement, and you were wrong. Dont get pissy with me over it.

>>717290105
>Cool, mind actually answering the questions I asked such as how the fuck its a "net positive" for 5% of a small fraction of all porn users to be prevented at the expense of everyone else?
You just answered your own question. It is better to have 95% of people fucked by porn than 100%
>Kneecaping people that are looking for porn specifically while doing nothing about OF and the massive amount of porn on social media is fucking laughable
I agree. We need to do something about OF and social media porn as well.
>No, most people are in favor of parents regulating their fucking children. If you need a corporation to be a parent for you, then youre a shit fucking parent, full stop.
You are delusional, get out of your bubble. In the real world, most people are actually in favor of protecting teenagers from porn. Which is why everyone outside of here covering the UK's ID story always says "I think we can all agree that minors' consumption of porn is an issue that needs regulation BUT..." and they they get to their critiques. If you went out of your house right now and asked 5 regular people if they would be in favor of requiring ID ONLY for porn, I guarantee that at least 4 of them would be in favor. Again, this is exactly why politician disguise legislation with the intent of censorship as having the intent of protecting teenagers, because they know it's something most people would agree with.

>>717283558
Also notice how the tradcucks only target things that (they claim) cause degeneracy in men. They don't target anything that causes degeneracy in women, like social media and dating apps.

>>717289553
Chinese really don't give a shit, but the second they would, it be so over.

>>717290661
its a fun larp sometimes but Im more of a satan guy myself. Fuck G-d

>>717290675
>I just don't jerk off to the types of fetish porn that are being targeted.
Thats nice, I have decided that whatever you fap to is degenerate and should be removed. Thats ok, right?
>I'm also just stating the objective truth that you people are grossly overestimating the impact you have on this situation.
All that was stated is that we're bothering them, and we are. We know we're up against a massive corporate entity, the only way to actually win is to bitch and drag this out until an alternative is found, in which that is being worked on.

>>717282054
I mean DLsite came up with the piss easy work around of having a "secondary" retailer that they directly link to, to purchase gift cards for their website.

The bible doesn't say pornography is wrong

>>717290741
All these words yet you have failed to post one source regarding the damage control statement made by them
>Are the statements in the room with us?
I'm sure you don't actually look for them since they aren't underage and just took some retards word for it on 4chan
>All these people say
Dude people saying they do this with no other evidence but they said so is not a source. You are the one refusing to provide any sort of tangible evidence.

>>717281095

>>717290897
Oh! A jew, I see

>>717287472
a funni prank would be to send gba copies of Mario and Luigi with Luigi having a black redacted line through it to every CEO

>>717291063
DLsite is very different from Steam. The only reason someone from the west would buy something from there is because whatever they want to buy is not available anywhere else.
Meanwhile Steam is simply the default for buying games. But it wouldn't be if you were unable to buy games there with your visa.

>>717290804
>It is better to have 95% of people fucked by porn than 100%
No, its 5% of 14-18 year olds which are a fraction of the porn userbase. Think more like .1% you fucking dipshit.
Furthermore, there has again been no peer reviewed scholarly article about porn being more addictive or damaging than literally anything else. Social media itself is far more damaging, so by your retarded dogma we should get rid of all social media including 4chinz because some people are too weak willed or dont have good parents.
>I agree. We need to do something about OF and social media porn as well.
No, we dont agree. Its not good enough, we should just delete all social media since it has actual data that shows it harms kids. But you dont want this because it will fuck you over. Youre a hypocrite.
>You are delusional, get out of your bubble. In the real world, most people are actually in favor of protecting teenagers from porn.
I talk with parents regularly since I am a parent myself. YOU are the one living in a fucking bubble.
>Which is why everyone outside of here covering the UK's ID story always says "I think we can all agree that minors' consumption of porn is an issue that needs regulation BUT..."
Virtue signaling articles mean fuck all. And again, it is not YOUR fucking call to make on how I or anyone else raises my fucking kid. You al;so dont actually give a god damn because if you did, youd be calling to get rid of social media in general.
>If you went out of your house right now and asked 5 regular people if they would be in favor of requiring ID ONLY for porn, I guarantee that at least 4 of them would be in favor.
You are fucking delusional.
> Again, this is exactly why politician disguise legislation with the intent of censorship as having the intent of protecting teenagers, because they know it's something most people would agree with.
They use it as an excuse because its something that is hard to argue against without diving into it.

>>717290950
Actually, I'll correct my statement. Maybe social media porn is not that much of a problem since most social media sites already have an option that tries to filter out adult content, aka a sfw/nsfw toggle option in the settings to make it visible or not. All you need is to require an ID in order to make the nsfw content visible.

>>717290384
The core value proposition of Visa and MC is that of trust and reliability. That their processes are as predictable as possible, AND that these processes are observable AND AUDITABLE by trusted third parties, government regulators. Something like KPMG or acredditd accounting firms for you slowpokes.

If a transaction does NOT go through, we should be able to IMMIEDIATELY trace every point in the process, from the point of sale box like square or Diebold, to the customer's issuing bank, to the credit card system listed like STAR, to my bank, to any law enforcement, to any shared "fraud warning" systems, ect, ect. I can do this with transactions to fucking South Sudan in less than 30 mins very consistently.

If Rajeesh and Singh do NOT know, they should be 100 percent be able to direct me to the office, or gov organization that made the decision, or third party like ESRB or whatever.

Visa and MC are implying that it is NOT their internal compliance offices that are making this call to ban shit, that's in the range of R rated movies. Well SOMEBODY fucking is, and it is absolutely in Visa and MC's best interest to be 100 percent transparent about who the fuck it is.

If Visa and MC choose to not let Rajeesh and Singh KNOW this information, that is actually pretty important information in and of itself.

>>717290950
Sure if the majority of the population finds Dylan Ryder getting her muff slammed by some dude as fringe or weird I guess I'm SOL but I think they are to focused on things like Vore and Scat. But, I think it may be a while before they try to payblock straight normal porn. The problem with you declaring my stuff degenerate is public opinion is against you.

Again you people are just bothering the bottom of the totem pole. Visa/Mastercard will institute new vetting long before making any real concessions

>>717281878
This, arguing for legislative action against Mastercard goes against libertarianism and supports authoritarianism.

>>717288639
We should have a thread listing all the alternatives, focusing on ones that give Visa and MC the least amount of power and money. And not just for game purchase.s

>>717291107
Non sola scriptura
The Church believes it's wrong so it's wrong

>>717291519
I disagree. If their reputation and trusworthiness takes enough of a hit, I think they'll step back. Blame a rogue processor. Institute some rules about transparency. Something like that.

>>717291446
There are plenty of avenues to watch porn. I'll torrent it before I slap my ID on there. I could care less if they institute an ID for porn sites because I have a functioning frontal lobe

>>717281878
>It's a free market
source?

>>717291126
>All these words yet you have failed to post one source regarding the damage control statement made by them
This was community noted immediately and BTFO because its a lie. It was a shit attempt at damage control. You can not fucking refute this. Cope.

>>717281878
>>717291520

Visa and MC are already a functional monopoly and already facing loads of regulation. But you don't have problems with counter pressure to balance out whoever's putting pressure on them to make these changes, right?

>>717291692
I disagree with your disagreement, debanking and the use of credit card companies as extrajudicial cultural enforcement mechanisms are features, not bugs.

>>717291820
I mean, lets say MC isn't lying here. Then who the fuck made the decision? I guarantee MC knows at this point.

>>717291436
>No, we dont agree. Its not good enough, we should just delete all social media since it has actual data that shows it harms kids. But you dont want this because it will fuck you over. Youre a hypocrite.
You know nothing about me, faggot. I don't use social media, literally. I don't use twitter, instagram, reddit, facebook or whatever. Banning all of them would literally change nothing at all in my life.
>No, its 5% of 14-18 year olds which are a fraction of the porn userbase. Think more like .1% you fucking dipshit.
Whatever, it's still better having 99,9% of people fucked by porn than 100%.
>I talk with parents regularly since I am a parent myself. YOU are the one living in a fucking bubble.
Well, I don't know where you live, buddy. But I'm 100% sure that where I live people would be in favor of that.
>And again, it is not YOUR fucking call to make on how I or anyone else raises my fucking kid
This is the most retarded take ever, so like if a parent wants to watch porn with his 8 year old daughter it's not my call? If a parent want to buy gay anal toys for his son's 10th birthday it's not my call? Are those not something that should get him arrested What a fucking joke. You clearly are delusional. Society does have a responsibility to take care of children SPECIALLY in a modern society where people live isolated from one another and there is no "public village" to hold people accountable.

>>717291651
ZASED

>>717291692
Look im not like some weird wall. Yes, if general public opinion deems them shitty they will 100% backtrack if it effects their margins. It's my personal belief that will not occur by such a small population of people calling them. It would need to be a significant amount of people and I only think that will happen if the stuff they start blocking is far more general. As of right now the stuff affected is fringe.

>>717281353
>visa and mastercard pressure stores to drop the steam gift cards or else
>valve no longer has any way to process payment
ur dumb

>>717289332
How are they gonna do that? Block VISA/MC cards from paying? Use American Express/MIR/Unionpay or whatever alternative your country has.

>>717291885
If it's a feature then Visa and MC are guaranteed to become a constant cultural battleground from fucking everyone and their mother, which contradicts much of what >>717291519
says.

Or do you think that they WANT to be in that position of the cultural battlefield?

Even then, transparency on exactly how the process works, I think is an achievable goal and outcome.

>>717291710
Okay, you can continuing consuming porn as you were then, no problem at all. Just keep at it, if you are that good at bypassing it. However, an ID requirement could have a positive impact on other people. Honestly, unironically more power to you, if you can bypass it as long as you don't go around teaching teenager how to do the same for fun.

>>717280974 (OP)
So the argument from the CCs is not that THEY didn’t make the requests directly, instead they had someone else do it?

>>717292020
The groups that are in favor of banning shit are even more fringe, yet they got what they wanted implemented.

>>717292474
No. The CCs have not made it clear at all what happened, just claimed that it was not them.

Why didnt BG3 get delisted? Is it ok when the game actually makes money? Is the the dividing line on questionable content? Profit? So much for their moral grandstanding.

>>717292329
>Stop carrying Steam cards or we won't let you accept Visa/MC for payments in your store
It's as shrimple as that.

>>717291820
>This was community noted immediately and BTFO because its a lie
Zero (0) policy change.

>>717280974 (OP)
>/v/ challenge: Try to not be a mentally il porn addicted retard. =Impossible
>inb4 MUH PRESERVATION
you're a faggot.

>>717281353
>>717281517
>>717281698
If Valve removed Visa and Mastercard, then Epic Games and/or Xbox would overtake Steam's numbers overnight. As a result the censorship would get even worse because those platforms are led by people who openly support doing away with "problematic" content.

Always nice seeing le hecking based freedom warriors fighting against their own goals.

>>717280974 (OP)
2hr limit for refund and online client checks still exist though

>>717288589
Realize how you were put in this position.
Whose fault was it that your fucking freedoms and liberties are at risk of being taken from you?
Boomers. Remember to piss on boomer graves after they're all dead. Spit on their tombstones. Shit on where their flowers would be placed if their families had anything other than contempt for their pathetic lives.
Boomers will go down as the fucking worst generation to disgrace this earth.

>>717291993
>Banning all of them would literally change nothing at all in my life.
4chan is social media dipshit.
>Whatever, it's still better having 99,9% of people fucked by porn than 100%.
Still waiting on the article saying its super bad in any way that actually has scholarly merit. There are a million other things that need regulated before fucking porn.
>Well, I don't know where you live, buddy. But I'm 100% sure that where I live people would be in favor of that.
Uh huh.
>This is the most retarded take ever, so like if a parent wants to watch porn with his 8 year old daughter it's not my call?
First, we were talking about teens and not 8 year olds. Second, we are talking about said teens getting on and searching for porn, which is completely different than me trying to get my kid to look at fucking porn you disingenuous little shit.

But even taking your dishonest argument at face value, literally 1-2 generations ago people taught the birds and the bees to their sons by taking them to a fucking X rated movie. Before that kids were told to turn around when their parents went to fuck. As long as Im not forcing shit on to them, it is not your fucking business. At all.
>Society does have a responsibility to take care of children
Oh? Mkay, then "society" can go ahead and raise all children in one big communal pot luck. Surely nothign will go wrong.
No retard, you do not get to tell me how to raise my fucking children. You arent my Dad, you dont pay my taxes, you dont get to do SHIT on how I raise my fucking children. Piss the fuck off.

>>717292774
>damage control isnt damage control if it doesnt change policy
Lmfao what is this mental gymnastic?

>>717292680
We don't know. We don't know exactly who is making the decisions here, what their critiera are, what the processes are. The CC companies are claiming it is not their compliance departments. There are other companies in the chain of purchasing, but nobody's stepped forward or identified who's deciding.

Bestiality is a known trigger and the scene with Halsin is definitely trhat.

>>717281353
are you actually this stupid or do I have to explain what payment processor monopoly means?

>>717280974 (OP)
Is he fighting for me, though?

>>717291820
>Ignoring the second part of the statement.
They doubled down at the end. The reason why certain games are under scrutiny is because stuff featuring loli and other things are considered illegal in the EU. In the US a certain level of obscenity must be met but that is set on a basis to basis ruling. Mastercard is effectively saying if the content violates the law then it must be reviewed. It could be entirely possible they haven't reviewed the games already delisted from Steam. In regards to Itch.io they willingly delisted their entire NSFW library to meet the current regulations outlined in Mastercards TOS.

>>717292330
It's not going to become a public battleground but a law based one. Granted the laws will be fueled by public opinion.

>>717281353
Why are niggas with moral principles always so laughbly and hilariously retarded?

>>717292680
>>717293039
There is also incest with the twins. I dont want any game to get delisted, but I want this shit to happen just to wake people the fuck up. Have hard line rules, none of this pussyfooting around. If youre going to make stupid fucking rules than take it to the end and stand by it.

why are valveniggers worshiping billionaire that only cares about money?

>>717280974 (OP)
Gabe isn't fighting shit. How many perfectly acceptable anime games has steam voluntarily blacklisted? Virtually every asian indie game with tits in it has to be patched somewhere else after purchase to uncensor. But does the game that has literal bear sex have to be patched? Fuck right off. He kisses the jew's feet just like the rest.

>>717292509
You are willfully ignoring the stuff that was targeted. Most people don't support loli, rape, vore, scat. Secondly, this stuff is fueled by the red tape that is the law and how an international payment processor conducts business.

>>717292802
call porn bad all you want, but that will never justify for literal banking companies to dictate how you should spend your money.

many of us have jobs where we risk our sanity, OUR LIVES to get money, and if we want to use said money that comes from those fatal risks to spend it on porn, whatever the kind, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO SO! we should be able to buy childrape simulator 4 from DLsite, we should be able to buy the latest porno slop from steam, and neither the govt. nor those agencies should have any problem with that. at most the ONLY people we should respond to when buying that crap are our own families and nobody else.

so if you have anything better to do than to gloat in a ugandian weaving forum about how 'we loser gooners deserve to lose our liberties' then fucking do so, and at least leave us alone, you fucking asshat!

>>717293050
it's not a substitute, but we can starve the beast some. Ive taken to not buying gas with credit cards for my company's fleet, and have gone to costco cash.

Future thought: What current methods of payment cut out Visa and MC from buying shit, particularly games?

>>717293064
>NO SEE ITS NOT DAMAGE CONTROL EVEN THOUGH THEY BLATANTLY LIED TO SHIFT BLAME, YOU SEE BECAUSE THEY DOUBLE DOWNED AFTER SHIFTING BLAME!!!!
Its damage control, you are objectively fucking wrong. They attempted to downplay their involvement.

>>717293064
>It's not going to become a public battleground but a law based one. Granted the laws will be fueled by public opinion.

I agree that much of the battleground will be legal, but again, this ban was implemented WITHOUT the law, WITHOUT ESRB, WITHOUT CERO.

It stands to reason that a comparable amount of pressure on the opposite side would get results. And if it doesn't, exactly why is and interesting question.

>>717281353
Theoretically could valve become it's own payment processor?
How does this shit work?

>>717292680
>>717293039
>>717293193
That's actually simple. It's context. Firstly I want to lead with the Halsin shit was just wild. But it was done in a jokey way and ultimately wasn't egregious albeit very weird. The reason why the twins didn't get it the axe is because it's not incest itself that's the issue. Having the word incest is a flag but not a sell. The problem is usually incest is associated with many other things when it comes to video games especially loli

>>717292953
>4chan is social media dipshit.
Ok, you are right. But I would gladly have it banned if it was for the greater good.
>But even taking your dishonest argument at face value, literally 1-2 generations ago people taught the birds and the bees to their sons by taking them to a fucking X rated movie. Before that kids were told to turn around when their parents went to fuck. As long as Im not forcing shit on to them, it is not your fucking business. At all.
You are a disgusting human being, clearly this argument was useless to begin with if that's what you consider good and proper. I will vote for regulation until I die and every time I do I'll specifically recall this exact post. I have nothing further that I want to say.

>>717280974 (OP)
Ganbatte Gabe-sama

>>717283078
The problem isn't necessarily that MasterCard and Visa would stop processing payments from customers on Steam, it's that they'd stop processing payments FOR Valve. They wouldn't be able to pay Akamai or any of the other companies they work with and all the things Steam relies on to work would discontinue service without payment.

>>717293523
So if they add a laugh track to monster girl rancher they can relist it?

When Valve actually responds, you know you've really pissed them off

>>717293247
>>717293761
Whatever you say, pedos.

>>717293302
All they are saying is that they have not instituted specific reviews but left it to the merchant to sus out what is against TOS. Again you are ignoring the second half where they double down and state their expectations. It's not the like super big smoking gun you are making it out to be. It is the lightest amount of damage control possible. They aren't even shifting blame. They are literally stating they expect sellers to fall in line with their TOS.

>>717293383
It is fueled by law. You should look at the laws of countries other than America and infer how a international payment processor would come to that choice

>>717293732
I think we both know it takes a bit more than that. The overall presentation is very different and the Halsin part is a singular scene and not the whole game.

>>717293809
What a retarded response.
Should we ban people from running if it makes cripples feel bad? Women are fucking retarded as fuck.

>>717293962
I dunno if this is shocking but most people don't like pedophiles. It's not just women

>v*lve bootlicking is better than bank bootlicking
Uh, newsflash! Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

>>717293919
romance is a huge part of bg3 and the options are
>frog
>devil
>corpse
>devil
>murder sex cultist
>squid
>half-devil
>bear
>devil
>siblings
>devil
>Gale

>>717293441
Valve isn't big enough. A payment processor will have to come from another source. Musk has experience with Paypal, and he's expressed interest into being in that buisness.

>>717294190
oh, i think I forgot a murder sex cultist or two

>>717294190
Brother, you are comparing a game with much more to it then just romance to a game about exclusively monster girl ranching. Also where do you see that delisted

>>717293541
>You are a disgusting human being
I literally said I wasnt going to force my kids to look at porn and you chimped the fuck out because you dont like that your dishonest argument was met with honesty. It is absolutely not your fucking business if I let my kids look at porn or not. You are nobody. You do not get to tell me how to parent. If I want to let them go online unfettered, it is my prerogative.

Futhermore, your "disgust" is overstated. Gonna say this again so you can get it in your pea brain. People from a few gens ago, as in your fucking GRANDPARENTS would tell their kids to turn around when they went to fuck. You are crying foul because kids MIGHT get online to look at porn and demanding the government do something. It is not your call to make. I will regulate my child as I see fit.
Which by the way, I wouldnt let them do it for free, I will have monitor and try to keep them on a good path, but if they best my monitoring and get past me, then that is on ME and ME alone. Not the fucking government, and certainly not some fucking dipshit that is crying about porn but was totally fine with social media LIKE 4CHAN. Oh, and if they get past me? Then they earned it. They demonstrated technical savviness and problem solving. Thats the other thing you dont get, teens will get past it regardless if they are smart enough
>I have nothing further that I want to say.
Good, we are all happier that a subhuman fucking retard that sucks government cock and demands that every fucking crackhead has a say in raising children finally stops polluting the air with his stupid fucking "thoughts". Concession accepted, stay the fuck away from my children.

>>717293853
>All they are saying is
They said they didnt do the thing to save face, They did the thing. They lied and shifted blame. Its damage control.

>>717294190
Also I typed in Monster Girl on Steam and their is no lack of titles.
It's mostly graphic rape, gore sex, and loli that's being targeted

>>717293523
And yet Japanese eccchi comedy that' not pornographic gets punished.

>>717294190
Perhaps a big chunk is anti asian bigotry.

>>717293853
Do you think valve is lying here then? It absolutely doesn't match what they say.

>>717281095
Based. I agree with this person 100%.

>>717294394
I see, so you are going to continue the second part where they say they require merchants to have appropriate controls to prevent unlawful purchases. Meaning they require the company to regulate the content on their site. Certain pornography is illegal in various countries. They are literally stating they require regulation on the merchants end. It is not the Mastercard yields to 4chan Gooners that you make it out to be

>>717294439
Does said ecchi include depictions of young children in sexual ways? Ecchi does imply that. So it if features someone underage in a sexual way it is illegal in various countries

>>717293072
I don't think the anon desperate enough for porn-games to say that is doing it for "morals". Try again.

>>717294524
It absolutely matches. The rule is 5.1.7 or something like that which according to Valve, forbids transactions that are illegal or could damage the goodwill of Mastercard. Which is literally the reason Mastercard is citing themselves.

>>717293853
>It is fueled by law. You should look at the laws of countries other than America and infer how a international payment processor would come to that choice

I shouldn't have to infer. That's the whole point of the payment processors existence. Clear, open, auditable standards. If that's the case, they should be upfront. Different storefronts that comply with different regions is also already a thing.

>>717292686
Are they gonna go over every store with that lole, it's not as shrimple as banning one big platform like Steam.

>>717294867
Is Voltare that exotic of a concept anon? You fight for people's fundamental rights of expression, even for things you dont' want.

>>717294919
Steam is an international storefront. But a payment processor at the end of the day is a private company. It muddies the waters if the allow said illegal content in some cases but not others. If they view supporting stuff like violent rape, sexual gore, and loli is bad for their brand its not a wild thing to just cut from their supported network.

>>717294331
You clearly say you are not doing that to your children but you are not against others doing it to theirs. That's why you are a completely selfish waste your space. Honestly, I am glad your kids have you as a father, you seem to really love them and want to guide them towards a good future. However, not every kid is as lucky as yours, unfortunately. That's why we need regulation. However, you clearly only value your own rights and your own kid's future without any consideration for others. So, yeah, you are a pathetic human being, even if you really do what you are saying and are a good parent.

Aren’t bank transfer payments a thing in America? It’s almost only on Steam I have to use my card to pay for something

>>717295030
That's exactly what they did when they were trying to force JCB out of America.

>>717281353
yea I think everyone is giving Valve way too much credit. They are fence sitting on this matter. Bowed down to Visa / Mastercard so their business can continue undisturbed.

>>717295124
Of course the followed suit. The games being fought over make up less than 0.01% of their sales. Why would they drop two major payment processors over them

>>717280974 (OP)
I still don't care. Not my problem.

>>717295213
For principal? Fighting the good fight? They are just another business owned by the Jews after all.

>>717295030
They don't physically have to send goons to every physical store and serve them law documents. They just send a notice to the corporate owners of those stores and corporate sends the new directives to the stores

>>717281353
Yeah and how do you pay the publishers and devs selling games on Steam if you're not using VISA and Mastercard circuits?

>>717295064
>But a payment processor at the end of the day is a private company.

Private companies should not have the right to interfere with a contract between two other companies and don't, it's blatantly illegal and the only reason they can do it is because the feds want it that way

>>717295213
For principal? Fighting the good fight? Lol dude, first off it's a company and as stated they content affected is 0.01% of their sales. Its a nothing burger to them and no reason to gimp their company. It's not a fight at all. Especially when the content is fetish porn. The good fight most would say is removing said content.

>ITT
>the website astroturfed by troons and jews actually has bots posting in favor of censorship

Never change, le 4chinz jannies, you'll never be a woman, you'll never be human.

>>717295387
Just saying you all were pretty mad about Sony censoring games but its completely fine when Valve is sucking Jew dick.

>>717280974 (OP)
I would respect it more if they hadn't already capitulated.

>>717295378
Private companies that serve internationally are still beholden to the law of each place they serve. As stated, certain porn is illegal in various countries and a certain level obscenity regarding porn is illegal in the US. It is totally within the law to not support illegal things. Ultimately, Mastercard/Visa is just threatening to drop storefronts like steam which again well within their right not to support places. Steam is obviously pressured to follow suit. Steam could say no but they won't ergo the contract is updated.

>>717280974 (OP)
Long as greedy bank shylocks and the strangle hold payment processors exist, this will never go away.

>>717295450
Not everyone who disagrees with you is necessarily transsexual, Jewish or a bot.
We are all just trying to figure things out.

>>717295471
All I'm saying is Sony censoring jiggle physics is very different then not platforming graphic rape, sexual gore, and loli. Very different animals.

>>717295735
slippery slope is happening in real time. First its loli and next its 16 year old boobs. Collective shout got GTA V banned in Australia.

>>717295841
>But but Australia
Yeah dude, that penal colony bans many things. You should really look at the list of stuff not allowed in Australia and the years inacted. Horrible example to use one of the most controlled countries. Also yeah dude, 16 year old boobs are still illegal in many places? The real slippery slope is defending loli from being deplatformed, then consuming loli media in protest, becoming attracted to minors, and then becoming a sex offender. It's just as ludicrous as many of the pipelines people post on her how banning loli will somehow ban Call of Jewdty

>>717280974 (OP)
He's not. He's stating that they did pressure them. While I applaud them for not trying to protect Mastercard, I still don't like how they just caved and aren't going to do anything.

>>717281224
GOG used their leverage as the largest gaming store and told Visa and MC they could sell whatever they wanted. The payment processors sent representatives to Poland to kiss their feet.

>>717295652
And it's ALSO 100 percent resonable for people who aren't subject to fucking Austrialian soccer mom laws to put pressure on said private companies.

>>717296125
Loli isn't depictions of "minors" they aren't fucking real.

>>717281353
>Go buy steam cards at the corner store.
Nobody enjoys walking to a store to get a fucking prepaid card.
And even if we were to all do that, even lowballing it heavily at least 30% of people that go to stores use VISA or Mastercard, which could blacklist Steam cards from being bought, not to mention they can just put their balls on the table and tell stores to stop selling Steam prepaid cards or they'll blacklist them too.

>>717296125
>>717295841
>>717295735
Different animals but being pulled by the same draft beasts. When China decides to seriously get in on the action of payment processor pressure here is when I think the game really gets interesting. And by interesting I mean turbofucked.

>>717296268
Most of the EU is a whole has Laws against the type of porn being targeted. And again a certain degree of obscenity is illegal in US but is subject to review per each case. It's not their laws but they did highlight the laws that currently exist. The only reason stuff flew under so long is because legislators weren't looking at steam. Then you have the catalyst of the game No Mercy which was very obscene and broke laws but yet was sold by storefronts. It garnered attention. If anyone is to blame is people who were uploading extreme porn to places like Itch.io and Steam and dragging others into the crossfire.

>>717296397
Maybe. But in the here and now? Visa and MC are showing themselves to be hostile to my interests, and so they deserve less of my money. It's worth the extra inconvinenece.

>>717296397
Not to mention how the fuck are they going to pay the people who put up games on Steam? Mail them the fucking money for each copy sold?

>>717296548
Have you ever heard of a bank

>>717296632
You realize where you are? Some anons do their transactions in chicken nuggets.

>>717293193
The rules are vague on purpose and have nothing to do with legality. In fact, both VISA and MasterCard themselves have admitted it. Read the reply from Valve: they pointed out how MasterCard just attributed themselves the right to censorship, which is illegal in almost every country in the western world. The shills trying to defend this from a legal standpoint are digging Visa and MC grave deeper.

>>717296376
Such a dumb argument. It's literally depictions of children. The effect is to emulate porn of a child regardless of it being real or not. That's just an argument you pedos make. But again newsflash 99% people don't make the distinction between real and drawn you freaks like to make

>>717281095
>[Deleted]
I don't agree with this anon but c'mon jannies.

>>717296424
>when this happens
>this could happen
>Yeah but what if
Cool that's all speculation and is not what's being argued. What is being argued is what is currently happening and not what could happen. China loves money and the video game industry is very large. As long as the games don't fall into extreme fetish territory they will be fine

>>717296850
>Supports censorship
>Gets censored
Lol. What's the problem?

>>717296708
These are fictional characters and not real. Most people are able to distinguish from fiction and reality by the age of 5. You have mental illness.

>>717297003
That's actually a good point. Kek.

>>717295272
>>717295387
Suspicious posting activity.

>>717297039
Lol no, the one with the mental illness is the one getting off to pictures that are very clearly meant to represent a child. Sorry man, regardless of whatever groomer discord you are a part of that tells you that what you feel is normal is lying to you. Get some therapy and medication as you clearly need it sicmnce you somehow believe a majority of people are cool with drawn nude children

>>717296125
Having the "Other" decide what you can and cannot buy with your own money is a drag and risk in and of itself as well.


I'm OK with visa and MC having standards. And fights over what's allowed, and where it's allowed are older than all of us. But they also get the responsibility and the extra overhead, and community scrutiny for those standards as well. '

And when you see where violent rape in unrated films and live action fake incest porn are kosher, or different standards for western vs Japanese products, they payment processors have just earned themseles a bunch more scrutiny.

>>717297003
>>717297062
>Hates censorship when it impacts them
>Likes censorship when it happens to opposition
What is hypocrisy. Only highlights that you freaks don't care about censorship but just don't want to lose your niche fetish.

>>717297094
Funny because I only have a You on one of those

>>717297325
I don't like censorship. But I do enjoy the irony.

>>717297182
NTA, but that anon is right. Is fiction. Private corporations are not the dictators of culture and morals.

>>717296632
And who do banks work with?

>>717296895
Maybe YOU want to special plead with the memory of a goldfish, and are completely fucking unaware of the number of people china has executed on this issue. I mean we have had these payment processor attacks against 4chan itself. The people involved were 100 percent open on who they were, their motivation, and the means in which they tried to do it.

It's unquestionable that the forces that want to control shit that they don't want other people to have in media are ascending at the moment. And it's not a big leap to notice people trying to restrict internet access.

>>717297182
Every therapist is okay with fictional content along with lolicon and shotacon. You are blatantly fucking wrong about this. They're not real. They don't represent children. They represent fictional characters.

>>717297325
ok dalit

>>717297290
Oh I'm not saying they are immune to scrutiny by any metric but that wasn't what was being argued. They 100% open themselves up to certain things now that they are refraining from associating with extremes when it comes to porn. Incest won't be banned but it's flagged much like rape since it's usually associated with loli which is the main crux of the whole thing (when it comes to games) but what you need to keep in mind is that a majority of people are okay with not seeing loli or rape in any format. So while the will receive scrutiny it's just going to be from a small portion of the population. But ultimately them obeying the laws set forth by other countries and just making a blanket we don't support this is their pwn prerogative. It does open the space for a new payment processor of course so time shall tell.

>>717295124
>If we really wanted to show them we should shoot ourselves in the head.

>>717281353
Even if that happened, none of my local stores, grocery, Walmart, or gas station have actually had Steam cards in over a year.

>>717297517
uhh. Can you use a food metaphor?

>>717297325
but i thought you love censorship

>Fighting for us
>Already censored or removed things before this shit happened
>Just bought a yacht company
Stop worshipping CEO's.

>>717297576
Brother you are a schizo. China is perfectly fine with selling sex to the western world as is apparent by the heavy sexual monetizing of there gachas. But yeah dude, fight whoever told you they want to institute those changes anywhere other than China. I recommend you got to VG to see the sheer amount of Chinese porn slop.

>>717297624
Yeah they just tell you that so you don't grope a child. Nice self report though. I guarantee they think you are a freak and would not allow you near their kids. But keep telling yourself it's normal to be attracted to the form of a child. They represent fictional characters who are meant to be representing children.
>>717298208
I'm not the one decrying it though? It just proves you guys aren't anti censorship you just want to goon

>>717281095
based

Lolis has been outlawed and kicked down for forever and now you are tasting your own medicine, why should i care? It actually feels nice like im getting back at you faggots for all the shit i had to take from you.

>>717298557
China ALSO has the most raging, easily offended big audience on the entire fucking planet. Proof in the steam reviews. Remember that fights over content aren't just limited to porn. And we've seen how specific and petty China has been over this shit by what they do to actual media companies, and the shit they've already done to video games.

It's going to be a party time on the payment processor phone lines when they figure this out.

>>717298557
There is factually zero proof that loli is pedophilia. Enough with the bad faith.

>>717294012
That's not the argument. You KNOW it's not the argument. Yes, everyone hates pedos. This isn't about pedos. You fake-ass nigga.

>>717298557
Bro I have beat off to loli hentai for like 20 years now. I have a wife and a kid, and not once have I ever wanted to fuck a child. Real kids are fucking gross more times than not, being a parent made that even more clear. Try changing a diaper while liquid diarrhea runs up their back and into their hair.

Its just not the same. Its never been the same. Ive never had an attraction to real life kids and sincerely wish that actual pedophiles get the axe. I simply like petite women. I also like redheads in anime but dont care about them at all in real life, natural or dyed. Stop trying to conflate reality with fantasy

>>717299573
Lolicon literally means pedophile in Japanese

>>717282054
That's actually how most kids buy video games now. Lots of people are afraid of credit card fraud too.

>>717284594
Please don't be Tim Sweeny, it'll just be another setback followed by shifting to another storyline

Why is MC and visa ok with children gambling via gacha shit?

>>717289246
probably cause they dont want the high fluctuation to fuck with the payment value during the other transaction steps.

>>717300491
Theyre also ok with actual child trafficking since they got caught processing shit related to it a few months ago. They havent done shit about that by the way, I guess cartoon tiddies are more important than real life children being trafficked

>>717293441
Too much red tape, even if you have the money. And MC/Visa/Paypal have lots of pull within the government, so even if you're ultra giga nigga 9000-tier show dog and jump through all the hoops, your project could very well not take place through lobbying.

>>717297985
Uhhh... banks and steam are all restaurants, visa is grubhub. No matter where you order from the same guy on a scooter delivers it.

gaben is a fat bitch for yielding at first

>>717300030
No, it doesn't.

>>717280974 (OP)
When is Gabe going to throw in the towel? GOG is clearly the superior game store and everyone buys from them. :3

>>717280974 (OP)
Gabe can start by firing and doxxing Mary then allow Muramasa and Tenshi Souzou Reboot on Steam.

>>717280974 (OP)
You should all switch to bancontact, we Belgians can be trusted with your money I promise

>>717281353
Valve doesn't have enough weight (hehe) for them to care. They'd have to get a lot of people on board and even then the normies would bitch up a shit storm.
Valve should just offer discounts for using anything other than visa/MC, and maybe a different store front for porn games.
I don't care if people want them or if steam wants to sell them, but I don't want to see them. I already have them filtered out, but an entirely seperate store front for coomers would be nice.

>>717282695
>Ultimately those who claim they are anti censorship are just lying.
i know you're baiting but this is only unironically said by retards who are too stupid to believe that people can actually see the world a different way from them. you project your insincere beliefs on others and then act shocked when they seem to actually believe in theirs. anyone who thinks this way, kys.

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>>717303501
Get your shit together Paxum you could take over all online transactions.

last name: zero
first name: policy changes

>>717304480
You sure seem invested in telling everyone to give up

>>717281698
>Can't i just...continue harassing the people who are poor enough and uneducated enough to get a call center job?
lmao
people did actually think it was working though

>>717280974 (OP)
on steam you can pay with
>paypal
>gift cards
>mobile pay
>nigger cum
why would anyone even use visa or mastercard? serious question

>>717281095
get fucked faggot, ywnbaw

>>717301289
kek that's actually pretty good Anon, good work.

>>717281224
Timmy had Ebin fight a huge lawsuit against apple over the 30% cut and prohibiting third party stores and payment methods, and won, he hasn't exactly been idle.

>>717307120
>fighting for shit that doesn't benefit the end user at all

i bet gabes pretty confused most of the time. the dude made billions by figuring out and making it possible for a mod of a commercially available game could be sold without violating copyright laws (counter strike), and tried to make it a legal thing and open up the ability to the masses. he tried to open up paid mods on steam and the entire internet basically rioted.
>how dare you give us the opportunity to legally and freely create our own ultra successful mods and sell them? good lord, why would we want more ultra successful mods-turned-games like team fortress, counter strike, dayz, garrys mod, dota, killing floor?

>>717281224
its pretty hilarious that anyone thinks tim is morally better then gabe in any sort of form or shape. even physically, lel.

tim is richer then gabe. tims company makes more money then valve.

their best selling, most popular game, that provides all this revenue to them? its free.

tim skims more money off children via hats and skins, then valve does selling over 100,000 games on their store, while also being the primary host for roughly 90% of the top 100 most played videogames ever. its pretty fucking crazy when you think about it.

>>717281353
>get rid of mastercard and visa

allow me to detail how exactly Mastercard and Visa proceed to ban things so you will understand why they state they don't censor things.

1. The jannies' corps:
There are legally independent companies (but de facto serving Mastercard/Visa) that employ people to secretly test stores online by attempting to buy banned products.
The banned product is intended according to Visa/Mastercard policies, but also according to law.
But in reality, these companies decide at their own discretion what violates policies.
Favored companies get a pass; hostile companies are targeted until they bend the knee or are crippled in their way to conduct business.
In short, Visa/Mastercard literally deploy real-life janny companies.


1/3

>>717307881
back in the days before mods were automatically the property of the game publishers, gaben bought the mod so they could sell it

>>717308204
2. The self-censorship domino
The janny company, after buying the "banned" product, calls the bank and tells them that store X is "at risk" producing the bought product as evidence, (IMPORTANT: they won't tell what is wrong with the product).
Bank must cut off ties with "at risk" merchants or they risk being banned by SWIFT
Hence, Bank calls Store X and tells them to fix the problem, or it will be Store X that will get booted out
Store X, which does not want to be booted out, attempts to fix the problem, but because they are not told what is wrong with the "banned" product, they have to figure it out by themselves.
This lead to either the store hiring expensive reviewers to review all products they have (who do not guarantee safety) or issuing a new rule to blanket ban stuff to be sure to cover everything.
In short, the trick is: because this system bullies stores into self-censorship to avoid getting kicked out of SWIFT, the one doing the censorship is the stores, so VIsa and Mastercard can claim in legalese that they don't censor.

2/3

>>717308261
3. Meaning of the Ban
To understand the consequences of getting banned is necessary to understand the difference between Payment processors and SWIFT.
Payment processors are private financial service providers that facilitate online transactions (e.g., e-commerce, paypal).
A ban means you lose access to their specific platform but can still use other processors or banking services.
SWIFT is the global messaging network that enables cross-border interbank transactions.
A ban means a financial institution (or even a country) is cut off from the worldwide banking system; they literally cannot trade at all.
See it like this: payment processors are the software, and SWIFT is the hardware. If the software boots you out, you install another software, but if they stole your computer, well, you are cooked.
Visa and Mastercard own SWIFT, which is their patent and they do whatever they want with it.

3/3

>>717307881
not really, one had a lot of effort and could stand as its own creation, meanwhile the paid mods store was mostly low effort garbage

basically it was a quality/quantity thing

>>717307881
>its pretty hilarious that anyone thinks tim is morally better
is just pajeet shills, nobody likes that faggot

>>717281698
you just don't get it, those call center workers are obviously shareholders who have a lot of say in what's going on in the company and the more you harass them the more these ceo board members who are taking your call will kowtow to you're demands

>>717280974 (OP)
I hate pornographers and perverts, all of them should be executed by being sawn in half

>>717309006
You're going to hell for wrath. Enjoy burning.

>>717281224
has tim even said anything since this shit started happening? or is he still crying about apple on a daily basis?

>>717309006
Then you hate technological progress.

cant you bypass this by creating a fake currency? Like instead of buying the game, people buy "Steam Points" and then exchange Steam Points for the game

>>717297624
False.

>>717309472
Thats likely whats going to happen.

>>717281353
He's based but not THAT based.

>>717282978
>>717282164
>5 day range
damn you sound like you did when trump did the tarrifs
whoops
free money i guess

>>717309919
What will your cope be next week?

>>717286726
So far the age verification systems in place are completely trivial to bypass, any good AI image gen can bypass photo verification. Also these places asking for your ID and information get hacked and doxxed all the time. Why the fuck would I trust any of them with anything?

>>717310307
Yeah this is the biggest problem. If Youtube verified my account and I used payment information my best option is to immediately cut the card up and report it as lost/stolen it's retarded

>>717280974 (OP)
I told that fat fuck he should just sue them, he's got money on the line and he's got a fuck load of money in the bank, he's got clear damages and he should just stick to the Jew, the courts favor the rich and powerful, Gaben certainly is rich and powerful in the market.

>>717310620
He won't do shit. I've lost faith in Steam agest ago. GOG is way better.

>>717305049
>You sure seem invested
two posts (this one and the last) means invested
lmao you're brown

>>717310620
>the courts favor the rich and powerful
The courts favor the rich, the powerful, and those who might just end their careers, person or families if they step out of line. I do not think Gaben is in the latter and most important group.

>>717311034
If VISA/MasterCard bully judges then that's an easy corruption case and then well.. Guess what? GG, we won anyway.

>>717310186
your way of coping is looking at 5 day charts like a toddler
which lines up with your IQ

>>717311257
>then that's an easy corruption case
Kind of hard to prosecute a case when you're dead and the police chief gets a call to not investigate further. Are you underage? Or effectively mentally underage?

>>717311595
> Playing their hand this far out.
Then its civil war and Jews and their relatives are dead in US. Takes two to tango bitch, we know where their people live at.

>>717307120
everyone knows how hard timmy fights to try enforce his own monopoly

>>717309472
No. See DLsite which tried that. Eventually the payment processers effectively forced them to ban everyone outside of japan.

>>717281915
It's really just a couple of SJW cunts like the Firewatch dev. Most Valve employees are meek nerds who avoid conflict with their colleagues so the issue remains.

You're fighting for jew english translations
get a vpn and support the porngame dev directly
you fags actually pay for porn lol
even if you never supported the devs, jap smut games would still exist

>>717282164
>-1.63%
that's normal swing. also why would visa/mastercard would lose value over the censorship fiasco? people are still continue going to use them - there is no other alternative.

>>717312925
This. I have never subscribed to any patreon and never will.
Let the paypigs get fleeced. I'll still enjoy their games for free. Zehahaha!

>>717312491
>effectively forced them to ban everyone outside of japan
Wrong. They worked out a "deal" with payment processors where they block anything even slightly controversial (like school uniforms) outside of Japan in exchange for card payments being available again for filthy gaijins. I'm almost sure it only reduced their revenue, but nips be nips.

>>717280974 (OP)
>>717281353
Yeah this is more like Visa and MasterCard telling Valve that they get an exception in an attempt to get gamers to forget about this whole thing.

>>717300737
Every crypto checkout I've seen just locks the price at whatever it is when you hit the button.

>>717280974 (OP)
they still folded they are not fighting for us

>>717280974 (OP)
>Gabe is Fighting For Us
they literally folded the instant it started. the games that were taken down are still taken down.

based

>>717316746
cringe

>>717316001
to be frank i think Gabe is too old to play computer games, would he even care himself?