https://twitter.com/undertale/status/1952544997598965834

>Can get egg after mantle now
Huh, now i wonder if the chapter2 egg being normal-route exclusive is going to mean something

>>717311308 (OP)
I was wondering why we didn't get a SpinCake in Chapter 4.

>>717311534
Same. I felt ripped off. Give me a cake you bastard

>>717311308 (OP)
>Added a method to get "TripTicket" even after receiving "ShadowMantle".
Anyone know how this happens?
>You can get the "SpinCake" from the "Top Chef" if you gave him the "TopCake" in the "Chapter1".
Never made sense why it wasn't like this before, assuming it was unintentional to begin with. Hell yeah.

>>717311308 (OP)
Why aren't Chapters 3 and 4 considered v.1?

>nerfed jackenstein
>removed the susie slide
lame

Faggot game, give me musky black ralsei cock and balls with goatussy

>>717311308 (OP)
>still didn't fix audio crackling and bugging out on Linux
Fuck you Tobias

>>717311308 (OP)
I'm a massive hipster contrarian in regards to this game
Is it worth playing if I've only got limited time?

>>717312064
Each chapter is only around four hours long and its easy enough for babies to play outside of two fights

>>717312064
If by that you mean you're going to die soon, probably not because the last 3 chapters haven't been made yet. If by that you just mean you have a job, then yeah it's worth playing.

>>717312064
Do you have 8 hours? If yes then yes if no then it’s just niggerfaggottrannnyjew*OTHER PERSONAL BOOGEYMAN HERE*slop that you can ignore

Why were the werewires coming after Noelle if she was already in Queen's captivity?

>>717312193
>>717312215
Oh, it doesn't sound very difficult. Should I wait for it to be finished?

>>717312257
It might be finished sometime next year
If you have already waited this long you might as well keep waiting

>>717311308 (OP)
>Chapter 2 is the only chapter where you can't get the Egg on the Weird Route
What does it all mean?

>>717312256
for the Giant Hand

>>717312256
It's probably somewhere in the prophecy, for the sake of setting up her one-on-one with Susie.

>>717311308 (OP)
>nerfed jackenstein AGAIN
what the fuck is he doing? it wasn't even remotely hard

What if Ralsei is a rabbit wearing fake horns?

>>717311308 (OP)
No reraping of the doe then

>>717312930
assuming some vtuber got stuck on it

When will Kris/Susie/Noelle finally create a fountain in the hospital so that Ralsei can use healing magic on Rudy?

>>717311474
>>717312580
Chapter 4 makes me think there's some sort of mental trauma thing going on with Kris related to the Shelter that the eggs are going to help with. So it makes sense that mindbreaking his childhood friend would prevent that.

>Added a method to get "TripTicket" even after receiving "ShadowMantle"
That's sounds interesting. Sounds like there could be an alternate puzzle to find.

>>717312930
jackenstein >>>>>>>> eram >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knight > jevil > spamton

>>717311308 (OP)
>I'm old
What's next, is Toby going to realize his games are just plagiarized ideas? Is he actually starting to become self-aware? What being closer to death does to a mf

>>717311534
Considering how Chapter 4 played out, did you really need one?

>>717312580
Egg Man doesn't want to show up for Noelle

Which is interesting, it implies he can be frozen OR it implies Noelle never saw the man behind the Tree, as in it's a KRIS specific thing

I too am old. I'm 27 and I've already wasted my entire life

>>717312256
rape

>>717313523
I'm 36 fucked try guessing how many times I beat off instead of doing something edifying

Secondary ass faggots.

>>717313653
it literally doesn't matter if i played it or if i watched it on youtube. Don't even try to prove me wrong , you can't.

I CANT BEAT JACKENSTEIN

>>717313092
what if ralsei is fake horns wearing a rabbit costume?

>>717313708
>robbing yourself of experiencing something firsthand instead of consuming it through indirect means
I bet you think watching reviews on shows and movies on youtube means is the same thing as watching those yourself, faggot. End your life.

>>717313708
Isn't that true of any game?

>>717313708
It does because your boring ass whiny posts have nothing to do with gerson fak u

>>717311308 (OP)
>spincake fix
BASED

How much more can poor Jackenstein be nerfed

>>717311308 (OP)
Buff the Knight. He's not hard enough

>>717313902
Eventually he'll be like Papyrus and after losing enough times, Kris finds a "convenient light switch" that can skip the battle entirely.

So if I start my save from before I fight the Knight, can I get the egg now? Or would I still have to completely restart?

>>717313708
If you watched an unedited playthrough and actually paid attention, fair enough. But you also wouldn't be making stupid secondary comments if that were the case.

>>717311308 (OP)
>no more Susie slide
I will never forgive Toby Fox

I hope the eggs aren't necessary. They're basically impossible to find out about without the Internet

>>717314052
iunno, load your save right now and check. Should take like two minutes. I have the egg on all mine.

>>717314152
Really the only one that's kinda hard to find is Chapter 3's which tells you how to find all of them
Including chapter 3's for some reason?

>>717314152
Every egg is going to be a buff for a boss (whatever the final or a bonus one). That is why you need at least one.

>>717312930
>what the fuck is he doing
TAKING LONG

>>717314248
>for some reason?
The Forgotten Man had forgotten that you already did all that shit.

>>717314248
Ok explain how I'm supposed to find chapter 1 and 2 without help?

>>717311308 (OP)
>>717311924
this
>version 0.0.098
what sort of schizo shit is toby planning?

>>717314317
You find the first one while walking between rooms by random chance. The second has a glowing neon tree sign to tell you the egg room is there.

>>717314317
Chapter 1's egg room has the music restart
Chapter 2 for some reason has the same cue as Chapter 1s and instructions for finding Chapter 1s egg.

Now that I think about it, did I even get chapter 4’s egg? I know I missed 3’s.

>Kris can remove you from his body whenever he wants
>He can stop you from making him do things that he doesn't want to do
>He spergs out when you make him rape his childhood friend after corrupting her into becoming a murderer, yet never actually tries to stop you
What the actual fuck is wrong with this guy?

>>717314765
Because he knows you're basically God, and any defiance that actually impedes you unavoidably will just piss you off and result in even more dire actions taken to try and get around it.

>>717312257
you're missing out on like the biggest game of the generation

>>717311308 (OP)
JACKENSTEIN-SAMA.... HOPEFULLY WITH THIS ADDITIONAL NERF, I MAY BE ABLE TO SEE THE END OF YOUR FIGHT...

>>717312257
You might as well play it, it's mostly fun through the chapter release system unless youre really really deep in the WAIT

If you try getting to the "cheater" tv having already gotten the mantle now you immediately gain access to this dude who tells you that the ticket is under the ball machine.

Not sure how to get the ticket from under it though. My best guess is to trigger the 1225 secret to make the machine disappear, but I don't have enough points in any of my saves. Damn it.

I still havent played Undertale or Deltarune yet...only spilled gallons of seed to Chara....

>>717312257
Honestly, the game is written around the chaptered releases, and the end of chapter 4 feels like you just finished one movie and are waiting for the sequel. I don't think it'll have the same impact if you wait until the game's done.

>>717312257
Waitfags miss out on so much fun. Especially the website stuff.

>>717312930
His gimmick is probably fucking with people and causing them to play sloppy

Who the fuck names their kid "Frisk"?

>>717315143
It used to be trendy in parts of the US to give the firstborn son the mother's maiden name as his first name, and Frisk is an actual Swedish surname.

>>717315313
Frisk was Joel all along?

>>717314765
eram called him out on it

Why does a single player game need nerfs

>>717314765
You are basically god sometimes in weird route(can warp reality, speak when kris is knocked out)

>>717315380
grandma has died

>>717315486
Developers take a weird route these days.

STOP MAKING THE GAME EASIER
IT'S ALREADY TOO FUCKING EASY AND DESPERATELY NEEDS HARD MODE

You didn't beat the game

>>717315909
Well ... Yeah? The game isn't finished yet so....

>>717315002
>My best guess is to trigger the 1225 secret to make the machine disappear
That was it. Feels cool to be one of the first people to get the ticket that way.

But that does mean you're still locked out of the egg if you both got the mantle and don't have enough points.

>>717315596
Many such cases.

>>717315002
>>717316102
>Ticket under the gatcha machine
>And I didn't know until now
Dammit. How plot important is it? Is it worth redoing chapter 3 for the 5th time to get all the potentially lore important items?
Please tell me it's just stats.

>>717316447
It's an alternative way of getting the ticket for the chapter 3 egg. As far as I can tell it's only become possible to get it from under the gacha machine with this patch.

>>717316526
Oh thank goodness! I already got the egg in my 100% run.

ch1 and 2 eggs are dumb as shit "just walk back and forth for 20 minutes" and no bonus lore or anything

>>717316706
Remembering a traumatic event can be a process.

the man behind the tree is the man from stanistan

is there like an estimate on how many chapters this game will have? or be fully completed? pondering playing it now or waiting.

>>717317053
Should be at least 7.

>>717317053
UI goes up to seven. Not clear if that will be followed through on.

>>717311308 (OP)
WTF ACTUAL JACKENSTEIN NERF?
I DIDNT KNOW HE WAS KNIGHT LEVEL

Do monsters have souls? We know they do in UT, but I'm not sure if it's confirmed in DR

You answered honestly and genuinely to Gaster's survey, correct?

>>717317396
There's a book on souls in the deltarune libarby. It doesn't mention it being something just humans have. I think it's also implied that the soul is what enables being able to create dark worlds. Which we know Susie was able to do.

>>717317053
7 or 11
In game UI goes to 7
Files internally for 0-10
Fairly ominously for the longest time Toby refused to acknowledge there being more than 5 chapters.

>>717317578
Yeah but the book was right next to the book on humans. It could just be a book for humans only

>>717317497
im almost certain i called my vessel fucking kanye, i dont remember actually since i played on survey release

>>717317705
Just pop open the save editor and take a lil peek

>>717315002
>there are now 2 ways to get Chapter 3 Egg: original way which requires being a cheater, doing the game and ribbick X thingie, and going to Nowhere, new way which requires 1225 points for the gacha to disappear

So, Dess confirmed to be in Nowhere?

I really want to know how Toriel and Asgore came to adopt Kris. Where are his parents and why did they leave him with monsters. How common is this phenomenon that there books written for monsters in how to raise a human.

I find it kind of weird that all the tv screen stop working once you get the mantle. It makes sense why you might not be able to access the mantle game screen after getting it. But why did that have to cause all the other tv screens to stop working as well?

>>717317754
its fucking over

>>717318283
Fucking Kanye lol

>>717318118
Well, the TVs have to be plugged in to something...

>>717318283
KANYE VESSEL LIKES BIG FINGERS IN HIS ASS

>>717318283
NIGGA HEIL GASTER
ALL MY NIGGAS SCHIZOS NIGGA HEIL GASTER

>>717317754
Where are the saves actually kept? I switched to windows 11 a couple weeks ago and even though I kept my games drive in the game is wiped for whatever reason

>>717312256
It's pretty common for guards to take liberties with female prisoners.

>>717318034
The other day I saw a black mother and one of her daughters was white. If that can happen irl then a human being adopted by monsters can happen. Kris's biological parents probably gave him repressed memories.

>>717318607
Have u already tried lookin in App data/Local

>>717315002
>>717316102
>>717316447
Can't you collect points one by one by running past the spotlights? I don't think you are ever locked out of the 1225 secret.

>>717313092
Bnalsei

>>717319361
You can also trade money for points once the green room is snowed over if you don't want to grind like that.

>>717315002
you don't actually spend points, you just need to input 1225 and press enter

>he added the spin cake
coward

DRIVING IN MY CAR RIGHT AFTER A BEER

Deltatroon

>>717320856
Honest question does it at all bother you that there's literally nothing separating you from the retards that scream at everyone that UT/DR is about gender? Inlcuding and especially not limited to the fact that neither of you played it?

>>717320856
Fake and gay.

>>717311308 (OP)
Stop pushing leftist propaganda games.

>>717320856
>>717321131
Make your own games if you don't like it chuddies.

>>717321131
Stop being a faggot.

>>717321197
You too.

>>717320793
HEY THAT BUMP IS SHAPED LIKE A DEER

>>717320856
>anti tobyfox fags have to fake screenshots
Other devs btfo'd. Here's a real one.

>>717321108
>still seething beyond lunacy
yikes and cringepilled

>>717321372
what is wrong with scandis

>>717321390
Don't care, didn't ask, KYS

>>717321372
Is that the LISA creator?

>>717321463
cared enough to reply, nobody asked you.
YOU FIRST TOURIST

>>717321585
Nigger sneed

>kris steals us
>fucks with the prophecy
>conspires with the knight to open dark worlds at great risk to everyone around them
>gerson says nothing
>we fuck with kris and noelle
>gerson starts sucking kris off like a vacuum cleaner
This shit legitimately pisses me off. The current trajectory of the story seems to be "everything you do is wrong, everyone is going to hate you, but if you do anything besides what you're doing now everyone will hate you even more"

https://youtu.be/_yHkk6NJzxI?si=LT6f6TWY54UNc9h9
I rewatched the giygas fight again recently since it's been years and I still think it's surreal that this was an approved final boss for a nintendo game but it has me thinking
the flowey fight in undertale is supposed to be toby equivalent to it but I cant help but feel like it's way too silly when Earthbound treats Giygas pretty seriously. Undertale was Tobys "test game" for his actual dream game which is Deltarune but a lot of Earthbounds and Mother's 1 and 3's more serious moments, I feel ,are taken way more seriously than anything that happens in Deltarune or Undertale. I wonder if later chapters will actually get more tonally serious and bleak. Chapter 4 had a bit of a hint of that.
Also I guess some people could say Mother 3 was a bit too melancholy, bleak, and depressing for the majority the game but I loved that game a fucking lot.

The last part of the Giygas fight is interesting because after exhausting all your prayers and having it swallowed to darkness the game ends with (YOU) the player praying for the characters safety which ultimately leads to Giygas's defeat, so I wonder how Toby will end up using that concept in Deltarune since it seems like the most obvious thing he would do.

>>717321131
/thread

>>717320856
trans undertale

>>717321556
yup

>>717321840
If you lose against the final boss Toby tracks your location and kills you IRL.

>>717322037
Shame. His game looked cool but I'm not giving money to a self hating faggot.

>>717321840
>Undertale was Tobys "test game" for his actual dream game which is Deltarune
And he will never surpass it without the bonebros.

>>717322112
he made his game when he was still a gigachad gymnast, not a fat self-hating orbiter

>>717321840
I am unsure if Toby has the balls to commit that hard. He may do it once.

>>717322174
that pic's not up to date? he went to the dark world that makes you fat?

>>717322118
Speaking of Sans, why is he so much less likable in Deltarune than Undertale? In UT he came across as a goofy but well meaning uncle, in DTR he's a straight up asshole who bangs your mom.

>>717322174
The tweets predate the game?

>>717321840
Giygas is Jesus
can't have a jrpg without kill god

do you think we're in the timeline where toby goes through with making dess a molester

>>717322371
We already got one doe rape, may as well go for two.

>>717322371
no

>>717322304
He promised

>>717321840
Giygas is in a generally whimsical game that gets bleak out of nowhere at the last second and utilizes a gag action to win if he’s following that gameplan I doubt future chapters will get more serious outside the weird route

>>717311308 (OP)
Toby's put out like 10 patches already for Chapters 3 and 4, and all for things I feel like I did not encounter/did not know even existed
Is he trying to trick me specifically? Into believing that all of those dozens upon dozens of bugs were a thing when they were not, and all just so he can pretend he's working on Deltarune?

>>717322290
i never figured out if this was a reference to something

>>717322537
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-beach-that-makes-you-old

>>717321804
We still don't have any idea who we "want" to win, what fucking horse do you have in this race already and why are you so attached to it?

>>717322630
lmao thanks
in this house, m night shymalan is a hero

>>717322357
>Giygas is Jesus
How can Giygas be jesus when he's defeated through prayer? Wouldn't he more closely be related to the devil? I guess being raised by a woman named Mary/Maria is the closest thing you could reach that connection that but he's way more of an evil being and literally become the embodiment of evil.

>>717322638
I have a pretty good idea of what's going on already. Those dumb animal characters are going to doom their world, so Gaster is intervening by introducing (You) and Susie into the mix.
To fight a tomboy, you need another tomboy

>>717322638
i want team susie & gerson to win so we can be free and no one has to die :)

>>717322638
I'm here to do what I was brought here to do. Seal fountains, purify Titans, save the world. There is no other objective I could possibly want to succeed in. But at every turn this effort goes unacknowledged and is sabotaged by other actors. Kris is never even hinted at being held accountable for getting in the way of this, meanwhile the second we step out of line it's almost the end of the fucking world judging by how characters respond to it.
Rules for thee and not for me. Totally unfair bullshit.

>>717321840
Deltarune started heading in that direction starting with the Knight fight, and it has 3 more chapters to go.

>>717322972
I'm pretty sure Kris is going to get his ass blasted once Susie finds out he's been lying the whole time and has betrayed her multiple times

>>717323107
A simple solution if Susie needs to deal with Kris or the SOUL (depending on the route).

>>717323107
god i hope we can take control of best girl and kick kris's ass
he's only doing what he thinks is right but he still deserves it

Tell me how the Prophecy ends, you who apparently know better.

>>717323886
susie has to take the six human souls + all the souls in castle town to banish the angel's heaven, destroying the castle town dark world in the process

>>717323886
susie has to take the six human cocks + all the cocks in hometown to punish my heaven, destroying the castle town dark world in the process

Toby Fucks...
please just give us this and I will swear fealty to you for the rest of my days

>>717322972
>I'm here to do what I was brought here to do. Seal fountains, purify Titans, save the world.
I'm here to see the story through. There is no other objective I could possibly want to succeed in. I want to see what the characters are up to and understand all sides before I decide who is right.

>>717324191
WHO ARE YOU
GET OUT OF MY HOUSE

>>717322537
More specifically, it's a reference to this video: https://youtu.be/etaA94eM2AE

>>717315486
>why does a single player game need design
we have literal africans posting here, dont we

>>717314765
Kris can remove you from their body during choice moments when you fully relinquish control of them and no one's around to see it, such as cutscenes.

>>717311924
>>717314328
what if its because they genuinely arent complete and there's going to be a B side?
>follow snowgrave to completion
>the result of this is your save becoming tainted by noelle's heightened game knowledge and affinity for glitches
>if you do the weird route again, she'll replace susie.
>can freeze your way through every chapter except 1, 1 being excluded because it sets susie up to be the B-side final boss

>>717321840
Toby doesn't do anything exactly like Itoi did.
He'll probably make a "Giygas-like" but it'll be different, and that's GOOD. It'll be good in its own way.

>>717321804
>gerson starts sucking kris off like a vacuum cleaner
Unless, of course, he's actually talking to (You) and not Kris. The dialogue containing the Weird Route exclusive stuff begins with:
>* Y'know, I've got a mighty hunch this ain't the right way.
>* ... Though, I do like goin' the wrong way.
>* You get better ideas that way.
In context this, to me, is Gerson telling you that the Weird Route isn't how you break the prophecy but it will give you ideas on how to do it. This is supported by other bits of dialogue suggesting that Gerson is talking to you:
>* There's no harm in lookin' back. You mighta missed something.
>* But, when you finally turn forward once again...
>* Don't be shocked if the world has changed.
This implies that Gerson knows about your ability to SAVE (because of course he does) and is hinting at how you can do something in an earlier chapter to change the story - Weird Route?
>* Nowhere...
>* Your words just now, 's got a peculiar ring to 'em.
>* I can tell... you're havin' some relationship trouble, ain't ya.
>* I've seen it all, y'know. At your age...
>* If things go cold, you might think your whole world's endin'.
>* But y'know, things go on. You'll grow up...
>* Just keep livin'. Everything will be all right, sooner or later...
The Weird exclusive dialogue. Gerson's basically saying that Noelle's going to end the world, but since you'll survive that (via loading a different save) it'll be fine.

>>717324191
Everyone already intuitively understands this as true

When Gaster grants me my vessel that I've earned by being the perfect little angel Kris is getting heemed.

What's the appeal?

>>717327631
It is tantalizing and enticing to corrupt something innocent and befoul something beautiful.
But that's if you're an edgy fuckhead.

I think she's just a big ol' dork and a QTP2T.
I'd hug the deer before I fug the deer.

>>717327631
neet doe pussy

Anybody who thinks they can take Kris on is delusional. You can't even dodge his attacks.

>>717325557
Inb4 the Weird route actually freezes the save slot affecting future runs
You can freeze all of them

>>717327631
2000s rawr dinosaur spork PIE xD girl

>>717328174
I'm fully expecting there to be a "forced" loss against kris with the real knife where he does the cut to black slash, and you have to time pressing z. Some bullshit like Drakengard 3

>put the trip ticket under the gacha machine
>which makes knowing the 1225 code semi mandatory post mantle
>egg rooms are always in a between area
>after the update the ticket is found alternatively in the B room...between A and C

unintentional meta lore.

>>717328314
seems like that'd be a weird route specific thing. The mantle implies kris is far less dangerous when not giving into the violent impulses of the player since the "knife grows dull without play"

>>717311308 (OP)
>heh.... I'm so Japanese I'm going to use Meiryo for my patch notes
wew
and no, it's not Verdana

>>717312256
I think they wanted to bring her to Queen.

>spincake's back
>and it got a heal buff for chapter 4

>>717327631
Overwhelming power.
She just needs a little push to claim it.
Also sex.

>>717328508
>ABC room even mirrors the Chapter 4 egg room

>>717329139
what the hell? Now i can't tell if this was planned or an unintentional coincidence.

Alphys is either connected with Gaster or is being manipulated by him. She is the reason why Susie got tangled with the whole mess, and Gaster seems to be betting on Susie to break the prophecy. Don't forget that in Undertale they had some sort of connection.

>>717314765
You're better at asserting dominance in the weird route.

>>717314152
They aren't too important.

>Develop a game for 10 years
>Release and get money
>Rush every new chapter
>They are all dogshit
Many such cases

>constantly complains about how bored she is and how nothing interesting even happens in Hometown
>gets told twice about dangerous dark worlds
>doesn't even tries to investigate
What is her problem?

>>717330249
She's dumb

>>717322638
Kill the Knight. Save the Fish. That is my mission.

>>717329429
God shut the fuck up

Where's the HMAF?

>>717313731
have you considered your TAKING TOO LONG is TAKING TOO LONG?

>>717322304
he doesn't like kris

>>717321271
DUI

>>717329429
The room representing her and Undyne in the third MANTLE game also raises questions. If you kill the silver fish the yellow dragons all kill themselves - so that's obviously Undyne and Alphys...but why are there FOUR Alphyses?

>>717322972
You exist to save Dess You exist to save Dess You exist to save Dess You exist to save Dess You exist to save Dess You exist to save Dess You exist to save Dess You exist to save Dess You exist to save Dess You exist to save Dess You exist to save Dess You exist to save Dess

Fucking retard.

>>717331016
Shut up Kris

>>717330959
a call back to undertale where she had cameras all over watching frisk

>>717331016
Weed smokers do not belong in my new future.

>>717331068
Reminder Kris displays all of the signs of someone who has been sexually abused and that Dess is 100% the mostikely candidate

>>717329429
Not really, Susie gets tangled with everything because both you and her were late, and because she eats chalk.

>>717330249
Dark Worlds aren't interesting if you've already known about them for years. They're just part of the town. They're also explicitly not dangerous, since you can't actually get hurt inside them and Darkners are at least supposed to be subservient to Lightners.

>>717331314
Reminder that half of your "signs" are bullshit and other signs are symptoms of chronic depression.

>>717327631
i can make her worse

>>717331649
It fucked up canon so bad I don't even know what to address first, it's all so tangled up.

>>717316139
That looks painful.

>>717331016
Find her?
No, find Him.

why would chara do this?

>>717331894
rudy wouldn't be there.

is dess really a molester

>>717331530
>since you can't actually get hurt inside them
Susie sprains her ankle in Chapter 2 with a very mundane fall. Also in Chapter 2, Berdly can either get a numb arm (NARM) or be rendered completely comatose. In Chapter 4, Kris is explicitly said to be bleeding after falling through glass, and later Susie visibly bleeds after punching glass. Just because you don't get a graphic death scene whenever an enemy kills you, and healing is easy to come by, doesn't mean dark worlds aren't dangerous.

>>717315045
Don't worry, 99.99% of the fanbase doesn't neither.

Kris deserved to have his mom boned.

>>717332006
what is the ending meant to imply? is this an au where kris disappears instead

>>717332135
I took it to imply Dess is the one who got Kris his SOUL

>>717332135
Dess runs off with Kris's SOUL

>>717332098
No he didn't. Sans attempting to antagonise (You) also doesn't make sense because (You) might not have done the genocide route in Undertale and Toriel is Kris' adoptive mother, not (You)rs.

>>717332193
>Gets Undyne kidnapped
>Stops you from trying to rescue her
>"Police sacrifice... one week..."
100% deserved. I'll pay Sans' tab for making that autist suffer.

>>717332006
>>717332135
>>717332174
>>717332176

>>717332390

>>717332463

>>717332518

>>717318034
Kris isn't adopted. Toriel is just a whore. That's why they have matching eyes.

>>717332390
>file.jpg
>>717332463
>>717332518
>>717332571
Sauce? These are really good.

I want Kris to kiss Asriel

>>717321197
I am.

>>717332571
>>717332679
https:// x.com / Chameishida/status/1952383912824676457

>>717332806

>>717332886

>>717322304
He's Gaster's top guy and he knows Kris is working against us.

>>717332926

>>717312256
Noelle Werewire corruption is pretty hot

>>717333008

>>717332806
>Twitter
Nvm, I'll just stay here. Thank you anon.

>>717333186

>>717333293

>>717328042
She's already corrupt. I just want a cute wife who's as weird as I am.

nerf the knight

>>717332193
Fuck Kris. He's a little shit and I wholeheartedly approve of Sans boning that sweet BBW pussy.

whats YOUR favorite dess?

The brash tomboy kind who lives like a weirdo
The disgusting creepy kid diddler
The pimple-faced sweaty greasy weirdo who never brushes her teeth
The alt chick
The alt chick with a midriff
The alt chick who browses 4chan
The chara

>>717329396
It’s obviously intentional and telling you the “good path” will be somewhere in the middle

>>717329139
Speaking of, why does the snowed up Green Room have a slowed down version of that settings song from Undertale? What is the significance of that?

>>717334120
Tryhard weeb edgelord who shares her single braincell with Kris.

>>717314765
The Knight plot is clearly more important to Kris than Snowgrave. He can’t reveal you in front of Noelle because of it.

>>717315045
This is why FriskCHADS are better. In order to like her you HAVE to play the game to completion.

>>717330249
>established prankster and freakish goblin of a human teenager comes up to you on the street and starts babbling about dark worlds in the closet
It is entirely impossible to take this kid seriously

>>717315313
MILF Frisk...

>>717334909
Snowgrave is the part of Knight's plot. Noelle must become strong so she could kill Kris in cold blood when the time comes

>>717317053
We just now reached the half-way mark according to Gaster.

>>717335004
It'd be impossible to take any kid seriously if they said that. Imagine you see some kids from your local school come by and just talk to you for some reason, and then they say "there's a Dark World in the school closet". Nobody would take that seriously.

>>717315313
>frisk is a sweedish boy

>>717335080
Ill be 40+ by the time this shit is actually out lmao

>>717321840
The only way I can see a Giygas fight is if we end up fighting the big G man himself (Gaster) as the final boss.

>>717329139
This really cements that Toby was talking about Omori in that tweet. It pulls the same kind of in-your-face shit that you'll only understand in retrospect.

>>717322304
Point of view difference. According to genocide, he always wanted to be friends with the "anomaly". Meanwhile in Deltarune he dislikes Kris (probably because he knows what Kris is doing).

>>717335004
You forget that he
1. Wasn't being a prankster and goblin for years already
2. Is a son of a man she deeply respects

>>717329429
Gaster MADE the prophecy.

>>717330959
>Alphys...but why are there FOUR Alphyses?
For gameplay reasons. One lizard would be too weak of an enemy.

>>717322118
>faggot is a skeletonwanker
film at 11

>>717330959
Alphys' fat butt is too big for one enemy

>>717335019
I M A G I N E

>>717331894
Chara wants all humans to breed with monsters.

>>717332193
Sans isn't antagonizing you, retard. If you feel antagonised by him, either you're a self-inserter or someone with divorced parents.

>>717332006
Holy headcanon

>>717334120
First.

>>717336582
I disagree. Sans is antagonizing you, but that's because he's a little shit. He's always been a little shit. But he's still your asshole friend. The guy who made you pour too much ketchup on your friends. The guy who put the circle on your eye. The guy who hinted that he'd kill you if he didn't make a promise to Toriel, who he also hooks up with in UT.

I don't know how anybody is surprised about how he is in Deltarune.

>>717335359
*MILF
>>717336339
ZAMN.

>>717336761
*fries not friends

>>717335657
I want to believe it was Yiik because both games revolve around a missing person and it would be funny

>>717336761
>Sans is antagonizing you, but that's because he's a little shit.
Again, if you're mad at him dancing with Toriel and think that's an attack to (you) and not Kris, you're either a divorced kid or a self-inserter.

>>717336881
>>717335657
Vangers

>>717336881
it would be funny, but the rules of the Dark World and how they seem to be subtly playing on Kris' repressed memories make more sense in parallel to Sunny's dreams and how repressed memories are constantly bubbling up and threatening his perfect escapist world. Though there is an argument to be made about Alex being an unreliable narrator and him technically being separate from You and asking You for help.

>nerfed Jackenstein for the second fucking time
>added a reddit joke
How is this meant to be an improvement

>>717311308 (OP)
still not updating
I'm keeping the rose

>>717336339
Frisk is for ballin not for lewds

>>717336626
I'm gonna make some more dumb looking Susies

>>717335782
>man she deeply respects
headcanon

>>717337387
>calls Kris "Asgore's kid"
>proudly displays his flowers at the police station

>>717337204
>Says this while posting a sexbeast femKnight
Hnnnng...

>>717314765
post nut clarity

>>717336886
Sans thinks that (You) and Kris are one and the same, so by having sex with Toriel, he's disturbing Kris. Kris is not (You). My parents are together and fine, but it's still obvious that what Sans and Toriel did was messed up

>>717336626
crocosusie

>>717337542
More so that Sans doesn't know (you) exist, so he's just antagonizing Kris.

>>717322304
Because he obviously knows what the fuck is going on he's just banging Toriel to get to you or he's deliberately trying to piss Kris off for fun

>>717337367

>>717312307
>It might be finished sometime next year
delusional
next year is chapter 5, expect about 3 years after that for the game to REALLY be done

just what exactly is kris planning to do with undyne

>>717337736
kralsei is the most boring thing ever
Ralsei is for me!

>>717337671
Toby in game already said the game would only finish in 2029 through the Egg Man.

>>717337786
actually Ralsei is public free use. Anybody who wants it is entitled to his ass

>>717319780
You still need to have that many points in order to input that much though.

>>717337079
I’m mostly shitposting but the thematic parallels have been driving me crazy since Deltarune came out
>both games have sections devoted to the fantasy presented on television robbing people of joy and creating unrealistic expectations of reality
>both games revolve around trauma brought about by a divorce as a result of a girl who went missing
>both games take place in a dreamlike world that’s steadily breaking down
>Deltarune is almost certainly going to end in some kind of loop based on Susie’s dialogue

>>717337798
I remember when I thought it would take 7 years max for this game to be finished...

>>717337668
I was about to request this exact face! How did you know, you demon?

>>717337827
Kris is public free use. Anybody who wants it is entitled to his big dick.

>>717337690
Lose his v-card to prevent himself from being used as sacrifice.

>>717337940
>big dick shota
lame

>>717338034
No, it's based.

>>717338034
Big dick shota is fine if he's not dominant.
Basically a living dildo.

>>717337668
>>717337896
Happy coincidence, I'm just going through actual faces she makes and finding the best ones

>>717337736
The average Kriselle fanart looking like a Death Note cover will never not be funny to me

>>717311308 (OP)
In case anyone's wondering HOW to get the TripTicket post-Mantle.
>Talk to the Bibliox in Nowhere.
>He'll tell you the game characters have gone "nowhere".
>But also, the TripTicket is now underneath the Ball Machine.
>You now need to do the 1225 easter egg and then return to remove the Ball Machine.
>The ticket will be lying on the ground when it's gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lDxvlr-Frc

>>717338253

how would you react to this?

>>717338834
"Noelle, steal his girlfriend!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqcJhgQVEYs

>>717338834
mating press who you ask? It matters not

>>717339178

>>717338834
>"Oh shit, Chara's here? What's Toby planning with her?"
Thank God I'm not this far into the burning pits of hell the fandom is to just immediately "pogface" and go into Green Pippins ramblings.

>>717338204
Exactly.

>>717338834
Prepare myself for all the canon aged up Chara porn, and beg Toby to add Frisk next.

>>717338834
why is he crossdressing?

>>717338834
I will immediately draw hyper breasts porn

>>717339448
Insanity,you should totally not practice right now and post your sketches here

>>717311308 (OP)
Deltarune is getting more updates than Undertale 10 years ago

>>717339446
But Chara's wearing a girl's uniform?

>>717327631
>Cute childhood friend with history
>Girl next door
>Heavily implied feelings she doeant realize
>Stomping out dykeshit
>Being a good friend/lover by making her STRONGER for what is to come even if ot hurts.

>>717311308 (OP)
This game good if your not a furry? I like rpgs and bullet dodgey games but Im mildly disgusted by furfag stuff, how bags the actual furry fetish content in game?

>>717338834
>>717338834
>Soul: "Look, she might SEEM nice and all that. But she's a sociopath. A ruthless murderer that will stab Asriel in the back the moment they can."
>Chara: "Miss Toriel, would you happen to have some chocolate in your home? I'm a bit of a sweet tooth, unfortunately."
>Kris: ",,,,,,"

EVERYONE THERE HAS BEEN WAY TOO LITTLE TENNA IN THIS THREAD

REPEAT AFTER ME NOW

"I LOVE TV"

YOUR TURN

>>717327631
Turning a shy, cute, demure girl into a ruthless predator.

>>717339837
I LOVE TV

>>717338834
Depends on when. If it's the final thing that happens all that comes to mind is "HERE WE GO AGAIN!"

>>717339837
meowmeowow meow meowowmeowmeowow meowowowmeowowowow meowowmeowmeow meowowow meowow

10 year old game

>>>/vg/

>>717327631
When you see a beautiful flower blooming in the wild. Alone, pretty, and defiant against the cruelty of nature... Do you not feel a urge to pluck it? To see all of it's efforts destroyed and make it your own at the cost of it's life?

>>717339981
>tfw Noelle's buckteeth

>>717339446
Chara’s non-binary until he either whips out his massive cock or she reveals a big ol pair of titties

>>717339837
I LOVE TV

>>717311308 (OP)
>you can no longer erroneously keep Lancers in your inventory
終わりだ。。。

>>717339981
Kill yourself, wannabe janny

>>717339837
Day one I hated how he talked and I wasn't completely sold. He won me over with his greatness.

I love tv.

>>717330959
4 vaganias

>>717339837
I LOVE SPAM!

>toby is hired to make music for someone else’s game
>he uses penumbra phantasm

>>717339981
if horse game can have 24/7 threads then so can deltarune

>>717340371
After Penumbra theory was unceremoniously deconfirmed, I'm now just confused as to why it was never released. Homestuck ended before he could use it, I don't even know if Hiveswap is in development, and saving it for Deltarune as his magnum opus made a lot of sense, so what's its deal? I'm at least still thankful its deconfirmation means Homestuck is no longer required-reading to fully appreciate Deltarune.

>>717311924
>Why aren't Chapters 3 and 4 considered v.1?

It's unfinished crapola

>>717337736
Kralsei really is just Susille but worse, an impressive feat

>>717339539

>>717340630
>After Penumbra theory was unceremoniously deconfirmed
when?

>>717338834
I kneel at toby for the inevitable ship/smut wars around asriel it would cause

>>717341074
An interview with him had him directly say no music made for Homestuck will make its way into Deltarune

>>717340994
eh tiny head looks goofy but good first go

>>717340208
Thank you for giving me deltaboobs

Friend but 7ft and with exaggerated proportions would be great Kris needs a friend like that

>>717340994
Now drawn Frisk next to her.

>>717340994
>Anon delivers
Holy shit.

>>717341145
This but Friend should have a massive ass and thighs instead of big tits

>>717341505
Faggot.

>>717341505
Massive tits >>> Massive ass

>>717340994
>>717341323
Forgot image.

Why don't these threads ever talk about Jockington?

Trying to make it not fuck huge on pc

>>717322061
you know, thats actually a more likely scenario than any of the shizo theories, when you look between the lines and besides the story being shoved in your face.

take the graphics as an example; undertale was simple in many ways, to the point a lot of the game is straight up in black and white during combat, where color only enters at important moments (ariel and sans fights) and while the underground is certainly colorful, its not as lively colorful is the ending where they get to the surface / deltarune in general

then we have deltarune, which literally starts out with a musical piece showing this bright and seemingly lively town. an advancement compared to undertale. then, when castle town is reached, it is simple, only to be upgraded looks wise as the story plays along. throughout chapter 1-2, there's a progressing advancement in the looks of the game, more and more tricks being pulled to make the game more alive, so to say.

then we are introduced to tenna, a straight up 3D dude in a 2D world. and then mike, who is just a .jpeg of a real life microphone. weird and charming, certainly. but where can tobert possibly go from here.

consider that a 2D object or consciousness cannot fathom the full scale of a 3D object, only the shadow. we can let tenna slide, because he is pixelated, he is a 2D rendition of a 3D object, therefore he can be perceived by the main cast.

now consider that there also is a man. not a monster, not explicitly stated to be human which in this context would mean Like Kris, but A Man. A fully fledged person. He cannot be fathomed by 2D consciousness, though they can be aware of him.

the only logical conclusion is that the final chapter will advance to the point of being real life, with kris coming out of the screen to literally kill you or whatever, like something that can only happen in a fever nightmare. and if this isn't the case, tobert is a bigger fraud than miyazaki, who has no idea what a meta narrative even is.

What would be the absolute worst way Toby could end Deltarune that you could actually see happening? Not expect, just something that would seem realistic?

>>717341605
He's a joke character according to the LIST.

Jackenstein keeps getting nerfed for normies, but at that rate they won't ever get close to beating the Ch. 4 final boss fight.

>>717341612
>beat titan without spincake
who the fuck needs the spincake for titan lmao

>>717341764
dark and light world merge in a good way

>>717341787
>DualHeal is basically a reusable GigaSpinCake
People are just retarded and only spam Brighten I guess.

What's this shit about an egg? You can get one in every chapter?

>>717341764
You were a bad person for playing the game and everyone hates you in game. The moral of the story is that you shouldn't have played in the first place.

>>717341764
Kris dies, and it sticks.

>>717341764
Kris attending Noelle and Susie's wedding and Asgore being a pathetic loser

>>717341869
There are secret rooms in all 4 chapters that have an NPC that gives you an egg. Chapters 1, 2, and 4 are found in arbitrary locations where you have to go back and forth between room transitions to trigger it. Chapter 3 has a guaranteed way fo getting the egg, but it's very obscure and gives you hints on where to get every egg. You're best off looking it up.

>>717339783
You can optionally make Ralsei blush a bunch by doing stuff like putting ribbon armor on him and he gets called "fluffy boy", but that's mostly the extent of it. The game has a sexual assault allegory with the deer but it's intended to be viscerally uncomfortable and not sexually enjoyable. There's nothing weird or particularly "fetishy" that isn't made a joke at its expense. For example, the game makes fun of throuples/polycules and it's one of the funniest parts of the game.

>>717341946

>>717341869

>>717341869
you won't survive your teen years without at least one of them

>>717341787
One guy in this board said the Titan was harder than the Knight for him. Some people are just weird.

>>717341764
>World resets, Dess is back, dark worlds no longer exist and nobody remembers they ever did
or
>"ur bad for playing the game at all" but unironically
Either one would be the worst possible outcome.

What was Lil Kris’s fucking problem?

>>717341764
>Chapter 7
>You manage to subvert the prophecy and save the Light World and the Dark World
>Credits start to roll
>Susie, Kris, and Ralsei start talking and laughing
>"Now wait just a second."
>Vine rips through credits
>Flower appears
>Chapter 8

what the fuck is tripticket
i beat chapter 3 and 4 and don't remember that shit

>>717342216
Chapter 3 Egg stuff

>>717333008
So what happened here? Is Kris in the Knight or did they merge or what?

>>717342247
What egg?

>>717341787
>>717341846
>>717342070
I was just trying to list all the changes since release that can impact the game for anons. Here's it edited to say "beat jackenstein without the cake" because according to Toby he must be the hardest boss in the game

>>717342276
The Egg

>>717341903
And nobody sheds a tear for him.

>>717342317
Ramb would

Ramb is a secret boss character you know?

>>717341764
Kris doesn't end up banging Susie, Noelle, Dess, or all of the above at the end.

>>717342291
why does this make me think of YIIK

>>717342365
What if he bangs Queen instead?

>>717341764
The good ending is achieved in the exact same way as Undertale, there is no mystery in how to get it and violence does absolutely nothing besides lock you out of content

>>717341903
>Chapter 7 ends with Kris' death
>SOUL still lives
>You get to choose your next vessel for Chapter 8

>>717342276
Optional key item, one in every chapter, esoteric find conditions. Chapter 3 is the most telegraphed one but also the longest amount of steps to get, it will then hint the locations of the other 4 eggs (Chapter 5 included).

>>717342137
>World resets, Dess is back, dark worlds no longer exist and nobody remembers they ever did
Wouldn’t be surprised if Kris was trying to reset the world or erase himself so Dess never goes missing

>>717342362
In his dreams.

I really wish more artists drew Noelle taller than Kris like she is canonically

Fucking every woman seems to be taller than Kris except Alphys who he hates

>>717342317
Noelle would literally kill herself

>>717342494
>and violence does absolutely nothing besides lock you out of content
This is already the case.

>>717317578
But Kris opened a dark fountain at home after ripping out the soul.

>Tfw the soul actually makes you hang out with your friends instead of being a angsty depressed faggot

>>717342852
Lucky bastard, I have a thing for taller women yet I have that exact height where I'm taller than 99% of the women yet still considered a manlet.

Kris trying to go Goner so the Holidays are reunited and the Dreemurrs never divorce 100% feels like the most likely course for the game.
It's so emotionally devastating because in the course of doing it Kris discovers Susie, their best friend who will probably end up dead in a ditch not long from now in the world without Kris.
Ralsei being an Asriel proxy is also there to remind Kris of how Asriel will never know the person he cherished most, which is Kris.

>>717320856
Do trannies even have enough money to appeal to them so hard?

>>717334120
Alt chick with midriff > Alt chick > Brash tomboy > POWER GAP > Everything else

>Kris wants to fuck this

>>717343097
Toby Fox tricked a generation into drawing art of his particular furry fetishes. Hooves is definitely one of them.

>>717334120
For me, it's de/ss/.

>Threw Gaster into his creation
>Stole Dess
>Stole Ramb
>Watches you from afar
>Connected to hands and the river
What the fuck is his problem

>>717343281
Knowing his love for fox girls, it's no coincidence he threw Toriel under the bus in chapter 4.

>>717343531
I like how everyone for some reason collectively agreed this thing is just an irredeemable actual abomination that abducts and kills and rapes children and is basically the instigator of all problems in the game.
Even though we know jack shit about it.

I am being forced by a friend to play this game. I am what I assume to be roughly half way through chapter 2.

Are these threads, which imply the existence that this game has actual FANS on this website, some sort of elaborate prank, or is the game going to magically become good and stop wasting time. The entirety of chapters 1 and 2 (so far) were nothing more than non stop jokes, only a quarter of which got a chuckle out of me and the occasional actual laugh.

The plot is non existent so far. Barely anything has happened beyond "four kids go into a tumblr Narnia and a prophecy says two of them will balance it in some esoteric fashion"

The characters are all different flavors of unlikable cringe, and Susie in particular goes from being "too cool" for everyone around her, adults and kids alike, to joining Lancer (the only character I vaguely enjoy) in being a literal fucking goof ball Sponge-Bob "vallain."

The visuals are consitently dull as sin, save for the odd meme face or the sudden appearnce of an actual vista in chapter 2, the music has yet to achieve anything beyond being mildly catchy at times, and the unique combat idea feels like and utter after thought that the game treats as some sort of undesired obligation it has to wheel out every so often.

EXPLAIN YOURSELVES

>>717343639
Toby doesn't give a shit about this OC and she hates Asgore, too.

>>717333186
This is honestly basically what I THINK happened. Only real question being to what extent Dess is actually involved. Her being Chara 2.0 is certainly a option though

>>717343691
You won't get it. Because you didn't play Undertale, and you didn't find the secret events that only appear when a randomized value in the code gets set to certain numbers.

>>717334120
>The brash tomboy kind who lives like a weirdo
But with the personality of Chara.

>>717343691
you had to be there for undertale.

>>717343531
I’m mostly curious why it looks like an amalagam, maybe the darkness is a sentient being and individual pieces of it get substantiated when an object is observed in darkness

How do I play versions before everything got nerfed?

>>717343691
You're obviously going into it thinking you're some epic tough guy given you using the picture from that mediocre Civil War movie so there's not much point in responding. You want to hate it, and wow holy shit, you hate it.
Also, you were supposed to play Undertale first.

Why does he hate anime so much?

>>717343985
alphys

>>717343892
It's really not a big deal. The Knight nerf is a slight adjustment to the tip hitbox of swords that a lot of players thought *felt* too long when they were in motion. I beat the knight and I agree it *felt* weird even though I can look at the original hitbox and see it's "fair". The Jackenstein nerf only kicks in if you lose several times, which you won't if you're not brain dead.

>>717311308 (OP)
>mfw suselle will 100% be canon even if it is total niggerhell dogshit that not even trannies like
Its over

>>717343531
>4 penises
woah

>>717333350
Always bet on Kris Knight. Kino comic btw.

>>717344082
maybe more

>>717344057
Trust the dog

>>717343910
That is a very nice attack on my character which you know literally nothing about, anon, but perhaps you'd like to address my actual complaints. If Undertale is ANYTHING like this, then my questions still stand.

>>717341145
>I'm going to Susie

>>717343278
you don't want to fuck this?

>>717343639
>Knowing his love for fox girls,
Does he? It's the one character type that is largely absent. He mostly seems to have a thing for fanon ran, not actual Ran (Who is evil, a poor mother, generally unpleasant, not actually a kitsune) rather than fox girls.

>>717343892
As someone who beat the knight before the nerfs - it's a nothingburger, it only makes no-hit runs easier.

>>717344189
Do the quest for the weird salesman guy Kris finds in an alley. If you don't like the music for the fight that results from that, quit the game because it's not for you.

>>717344093
>Both Kris Knight and Dess Knight is canon.
Based Toby.

>>717341764
In order of worst to best
>Susie and Noelle start dating and its shoved in your face all the time
>Susie finds out about the SOUL and hates you irrationally
>Snowgrave's 'message' is just a carbon copy of the genocide route in Undertale
>Susie is the final boss of Snowgrave instead of Kris or Gaster and she gets Megalovania
>No development on Sans despite all the teasing about him coming from Deltarune originally
>Gaster never shows up outside of the voice
>FRIEND remains in the shadows
>The Knight/Dess is just a carbon copy of Flowey/Asriel

>>717343425
Fucking hot.

Have a thing for defloration with blood and stains. Probably something I should talk about with my therapist.

>>717343691
Have you considered the possibility you just are actively resenting the game before you even tried it?
If you were forced to play it, of course you're not going to enjoy it as much as you would otherwise.
>the music has yet to achieve anything beyond being mildly catchy
Or maybe your tastes are garbage, I don't know, man.

... are people really trying to make the knight sexy

>>717344351
I unironically do think Kris will become the Knight in the future.

>>717344234
I've seen a tweet where he says that fox girls > cat girls, but I can't find it. Plus, his last name is literally FOX. Also, cat girls do suck in his game.

>>717344405
How about Dess just being Chara 2.0?

>>717344431
Curvy shadow creatures are supreme, you should know this

>>717344431
>implying you wouldn't

>>717313159
Pretty much, Shenpai completely sucked at it, it was embarrassing.

>>717344431
What’s the issue

>>717343691
>cute aggression addled faggot acts like a cute aggression addled faggot, comes to /v/ to bitch

>>717344474
>Also, cat girls do suck in his game.
She needs to pay for cooleg somehow.

>>717344474
I can't respect him being a Ran-fag just because I think Ran is genuinly a poorly written character even by Touhou standards and I hate fanon Ran with a passion. But at least he seems to dislike Chen as well, which is good.

>>717342268
>Dess looks like an Amalgam but clearly isn't
>Monsters injected with determination turn into Amalgams
>So a monster that has a determination generator (human SOUL) shoved inside their chest would look like an Amalgam, but isn't
Dess and Kris did what Asriel and Chara did and fused. The difference is that Kris, who somehow learned how to remove their own soul by hand, didn't need to kill themselves for it to happen.

What will be your reaction if Suselle happens and faggotry is plastered everywhere in the game?
>But Toby isn't gonna do that
Ok, but what if he did

>>717343278
>Kris wants to fuck this

>>717342378
it makes me think of that one scene from Black Souls with all the Grimm souls

>>717344451
If that comic is correct I honestly can't see anything other than a Persona 3 ending with Souless Kris dying peacefully in Susie's arms.

>>717344639
Frisk was justified to kill everyone

>>717322348
Yeah he went full schizotard self-hating white after his dad died, it was a little while after the first release of Painful IIRC

>>717343890
It's weird that 4 chapters in there has been barely any talk about Determination outside of the save points and by extension the face of the titan, but we do know it's very integral in the big picture so it has to factor in some way. And considering being exposed to Determination turns a monster into an Amalagam, it might be tied to that.

>>717344675
These games are already full of faggotry, did you even play them?

>>717344746
Kris needs 100x more development in these next 3 chapters for me to give the slightest shit about his death because so far he's pretty unrepentantly cruel towards the SOUL

>>717344529
How the fuck can you be bad at Jackenstien? He has no attacks aside from hoping you walk into damaging by yourself.
You'd have to have a literal sub-80 IQ not to understand that every eye moves in a pattern that is easily avoidable.

>vtuber
Even THAT doesn't excuse how fucking smooth that brain needs to be!

>>717344451
We need more knight Kris

>>717344821
Determination is used to create dark fountains.

>>717344845
I mean, I think "Souless corpse that was only kept around because it was useful" would be a pretty good motivation if was handled properly.

>>717344845
>NOOOOO HOW DARE HE HIT ME WITH A HECKIN HOCKEY PUCK EVEN THOUGH I CONTROL HIS BODY AND NEVER LET HIM EAT OR SLEEP

>>717344675
I'll make a mod to make male noelle

>>717344772
*Chara/You.

>>717344431
How late are you?

>>717344426
Forced perhaps too strong word. I went into it ready to see what all the Toby Fox hype was about. In return for my playing it, he will finally play a game he hasn't played, of my own choosing.

I encourage you to post the best song from ch1 or 2. Really think about it before you pick. I will listen to the entire thing and get back to you, but so far nothing has stuck out as being playlist worthy.

>>717344984
chara is so evil
i'm not it thou

>>717344821
I think DETERMINATION is supposed to represent the willingness of the Player to push past any challenge and complete the game. The reason the amalgams were created is because the monsters of Undertale had no agency, they couldn't have any determination. Susie and Kris exhibit parts of determination when opening dark fountains but ultimately its the Player that ensures both of them survive the fight with the Titan.
I think the entire point of Gaster's 'experiment' is to place the Player, the greatest harbinger of determination, into a world where they can no longer make choices as easily as they did in Undertale, and see how determined they are to change that, either through working with Susie in the Normal Route, or going completely off the rails in the Weird Route. Either way, Gaster is satisfied.

>>717344821
Determination is literally what makes darkness.

>>717344889
Anon you deeply DEEPLY overestimate the average player, for any game
AAA devs use DSP as the benchmark because he's representative of the average player now.

>>717344653
>The difference is that Kris, who somehow learned how to remove their own soul by hand, didn't need to kill themselves for it to happen.
Honestly, that's the ONE part I don't 100% buy.

>>717344965
Then he can just rip me out and toss me somewhere else but he keeps shoving me back in
Literally the natural conclusion of 'why are you hitting yourself'

>>717344896
Bet all on pawn promotion and Knight having Kris's SOUL.

>>717344941
Kris will probably die at the end before (You) sacrifice yourself to revive him

>>717343817
>But with the personality of Chara.
A violent, well spoken, flower sperg, who only gives a shit about like five people?

>>717344889
I had a hard time with it, probably took me 7 or 8 tries. The heart moves fast making careful navigation difficult, on top of that you're rushed so you're trying to hurry up.

>>717341764
>this was all a made-up scenario from a Chara-possessed Kris as he's slaughtering the Undertale monsters for the nth time before resetting again
>the SOUL is his conscience telling him to wake up and forcing him to go against his will, hence why he's so hostile towards it

I'm not sacrificing myself for some retarded faggot who keeps abusing me

>>717345014
Have you finished Chapter 2? If so, the classic:
https://youtu.be/V31PVkwzpEY

>>717345097
I think anon misread the comic. The comic implies Dess killed Kris and took his SOUL. Then, a Dark Fountain resurrected his corpse.

>>717345190
Kris thinks the same
You have so much in common!

Why is he so cute bros?

>>717344405
>Gaster never shows up outside of the voice
I've come to the conclusion that because Toby hates all fan theories to an extent and either doesn't acknowledge them or deliberately go against them, not only we'll never see Gaster, but it will turn out he was never involved in the events and it was another character entirely that did things behind the scenes.

>>717345139
Knight being Dess + Kris soul seems the most likely. Even the lyrics of Raise the bat kind of support it.

>>717345165
Pretty much. Probably even despises hometown.

>>717336626
Susie if she was the daughter of King K.Rool

>>717345148
Could see that as well. Like you give up control over your soul to allow Kris to keep on living. Though I doubt anons like this would enjoy it >>717345190

>>717345297

>>717344057
Plausible deniability anon. Even Ralsusie has just enough going for it to cuck Suselle

>>717345281
No, I thought that as well. But he pretty clearly killed Dess, spread his ashes over his soul, and then returned it.

That's really the only issue I have with this idea. Humans in Deltarune just being able to pull out their soul at will. Kris can do it but that's most likely because, going by this theory, "Kris' is a weird soulless leftover corpse.

>Krusie happens instead of Suselle
BUT
>Toriel gets with Alphys for the token gay ship
Do you accept

>>717344889
Shenpai just sucks at playing games, the appeals for the casuals of her streams are "she's a girl", "she's foreign" and "she laughs at every stupid shit on screen". No true substance whatsoever, she had to turn off the comments in her Elden Ring videos because people were telling her how horrible her playstile was.

>>717345443
Why is she like this?

>>717345508
OK but Asgore gets custody

self-inserting is fucking RETARDED

So whats his plan

>>717345203
>one of the best "with lyrics" versions ever
>releases 3 days before Chapters 3 & 4 so it's barely talked about
a shame really https://youtu.be/rgbq-Z2L_ho
Hope that anon like the original.

>>717345508
If it means Sans gets nobody, yes.

>>717345443
Ralsussie with genders inverted would be the straightest ship.

>>717345550
Anon, Noelle has literal mental issues derived from sibling loss and abusive behavior from her mother. Of course she's not well.

Cherry on top would be Toby retconning her to be trans in chapter 5. And i'm pretty sure he wanted to do it already but was stopped by someone (maybe Tem) that told him if he did people would latch on that.

>>717345742
Dess is going to be trans assuming she isn't also Chara 2.0.

>>717345550
KRIS
SHE WANTS DICK GODDAMMIT
GIVE. HER. YOUR. DIIIIICK!!!

>>717345508
Anything but Sans fucking my mom please

>>717345508
Yes
The Agenda is all that matters

>>717345613
Find a doomed universe (because Kris and the Knight's plan is doomed to failure), insert (You), see what (You) do to change things. They're all dead anyway to there's no ethical concerns to just letting you fuck around since you can't make anything worse.

>>717345325
People talking about Kris’ soul really bothers me because if Kris has his own soul then that raises the question of where Frisk’s soul was

>>717322304
I'm glad people hate Sans now, he's always been an insufferable faggot of a character

>>717345823
Kris fumbled Noelle to a impressive level. Literally everybody in his life that mattered basically did anything short of actually arranging a marriage.

>>717345920
On her body. Frisk isn't Kris and Deltarune isn't Undertale. The SOUL in Undertale is Frisk's, not yours.

>>717345014
You already heard it. It's 'A Cyber World!?' which was your first foray into the chapter proper.
Some people say 'Big Shot,' but that's a matter of opinion. But, it doesn't matter what I say or they say, because you already made up your mind and are fishing for validation. You're upset that a lighthearted indie game is exactly what it ascribes to be.
>I came into this thread because I am surprised this game has quote-unquote "fans" and I am so beyond that cringe as you can tell by my super serious image of a tactical operator operating tactically

Don't let all of this distract you from the fact that Spamton is in Team Fortress 2

>>717345960
He probably got blasted by the schizo beam of all the shadow crystals when he was in the bunker and probably knows the future and that getting with Noelle will lead to something bad

>>717345920
Frisk soul was the soul we were controlling. We were just doing so while also controlling Chara.

>>717344292
>>717345203
Song's fine. No. It's a genuinely good track. It has a distinct character. A bit overly familiar to anyone that has played enough old school pixel games, but not bad. Whenever I complete a review run through of a game, I listen to the entire OST during the writing process, and save whatever I like most for future listening. This song is teetering on the edge of "Yes I want to download that." but it's not exactly blowing me away in the way everyone has been talking about this guy's music for years.

>>717345960
Was he mad that we made him fuck Noelle at all, or just mad we specifically made him rape her?

>>717346082
You were just controlling Chara, not the SOUL. Unlike Deltarune, there's plenty of things you do without the SOUL.

>>717322304
I don't get why everyone hates Sans in Deltarune. Kris fucks you over all the time and Sans fucks him over in turn. Surely we'd be friends because of that

>>717345550
noelle is a filthy polyamorous

>>717346112
The problem is he enjoyed it and he hates himself for enjoying it.

>>717345964
No that’s bullshit, the SOUL in Deltarune is the one from Undertale (us) hence why you can ask characters shit about Undertale. So then you have to believe we’re playing as Frisk’s soul except the entire point of the Frisk name reveal in UT is that Frisk isn’t (You)

>>717345964
The SOUL or at the very least the Player is the exact same entity across both universes. Otherwise the Player wouldn't remember who Sans was despite never having met him.

>>717346112
>he promises to protect her
>you literally mind fuck her even harder by putting the ring back on and ruin her
Yeah no shit he’s mad

>>717346112
>Piss off the interdimensional deity
>Surprised it fights back
Deserved

>>717345097
Did you somehow forget that Kris literally does it on screen multiple times? They knew how to do it before we showed up. Chara didn't know how to remove their SOUL, so had to kill themselves to do it. Kris somehow does.

>>717346132
True. You do seem to have some control over the soul though, considering you can sell it.

Which reminds me of my theory that this is what happened to the soul you sold.

>>717346225
>you literally mind fuck her
She wasn't just fucked in the mind in fact

>>717345183
But you won, eventually.
It's a fight unlike any other in the game, so it's understandable you took some time to get your head in the right space for it.
Now imagine being so bad at vidyajames that you gaslight the dev into nerfing a gimmick boss. There's a vast gulf between struggling on a unusual boss and that.

>>717346053
>He escaped
Scary

>>717346183
>>717346217
Only the Player is, not the SOUL. It's (You) has the memories, not the actual Red Heart. The two hearts are different between games, unless Toby decides to have Chara come in because you sell the Undertale SOUL to her in genocide. So if they're the same she should still own you.

Why is Kris loyal to Carol?

>>717346176
do you think he jacks off thinking about it?

>>717346302
See: >>717345497

It's not impossible but it's the one part htat doesn't really fit.

>>717346312
Selling it doesn't mean you have control over it. Frisk can live her life with her SOUL in her while you fuck off.

>>717345742
Aren’t there a bunch of suselle sprites that were cut (presumably by toby). Also I doubt Toby would reveal Noelle as trans as some big twist considering his brand of faggotry.

>>717346385
MUH DESS

>>717333008
>>717333186
>using the same plot ideas of the first arc of NieR Reincarnation
Bra-vo, Toby.

>Eldritch all-seeing demon from hell appears in your world
>Literally killed an entire other universe out of curiosity
>Kris' first thought is to abuse and beat it
What was his thought process here?

>>717346386
He stopped jacking off when he got soul-ed.

Doesn't want them to watch.

>>717345508
Deal but Asgore has to get with someone. It doesn't matter who. Rudy, Maddie, Undyne, whatever.

>>717346347
The Soul is the representation of (You) in the game world, you even have that entire scene in the beginning where you establish a connection with Gaster through the soul. You’re drawing a division that doesn’t exist, it’s your tool to interact with the game world not a separate character

>>717346559
He ain’t no bitch

>>717346112
>bolts the second he sees (YOU)
He would have been down to fuck otherwise

>>717346705
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgUbRpdUN1w

>>717343691
You can engage with media authentically here if you want, you're anonymous, you don't have to be a jaded tryhard fag that doesn't give a shit about anything

>>717346642
>The Soul is the representation of (You) in the game world, you even have that entire scene in the beginning where you establish a connection with Gaster through the soul.
In Deltarune, not Undertale. In Undertale your connection was Chara. (You) are the same, but the red heart isn't. You're the one trying to overcomplicate the game just to fit your narrow view of the plot.

Its possible that if Catti and Kris summoned a 'demon' that that demon was either FRIEND or Gaster, and Kris 'sold his soul to the Devil' in exchange for the power to save Dess

>>717346864
>this thing that is represented the exact same way in the direct sequel?
>it’s something entirely different from the first game because otherwise my theory doesn’t work

Who should get Megalovania, Susie, Kris, Gaster, FRIEND or some other character

>Weird Route's final boss will be (You) and your vessel against (Kris)' soul and his body

>>717346935
It's possible.

Demon summoning explanation is way less likely. At best I think if they did summon a Demon it might actually be Chara.

>>717346027
Anon you are the second (or maybe you're just that first faggot) person to think that my choice of image is somehow meant to reflect how I see myself as a person, and use that as a dismissal of my complaints in order to avoid having to address them. Therefore, while I did listen to the first anon's song and do agree it's good, I will dismiss the idea of listening to yours.

With the way people have been fellating this dev for over a decade, I was expecting a lot more from him than a cutesy tumblr game draped over a conveyor belt of nonstop attempts at humor, many of which don't land.

I also fullt recognize that I have not beaten the game yet, but every minute of my time that this game wastes is an extra percentage point of "good" that it would have to become to make up for that, and as the minutes drag by; the possibility of it becoming THAT increasingly good get more and more dubious.

>>717347010
It be better if Kris was soulless. Imagine Kris being so fucking pissed off and determined to protect Noelle he beats you without one

>>717346183
>So then you have to believe we’re playing as Frisk’s soul except the entire point of the Frisk name reveal in UT is that Frisk isn’t (You)
I believe that we are indeed actually playing as Frisk again, who got isekai'd by Gaster. Frisk's SOUL (and thus Frisk) is the true player character, and their body is just a meat puppet.

>>717346414
Oh, right. Well my answer to that is that Kris and Dess didn't know what the fuck they were doing. A Boss Monster's SOUL lasts a few seconds after their death, remember? So Kris unwittingly absorbed it into their body, and after it fused with their SOUL the Kris/Dess Amalgam sprung from their body.

>>717345281
It’s actually the opposite. Kris killed dess and immediately created a dark world before putting her dust over his SOUL. And that somehow caused both souls to bust from his chest and leave his body just enough DT to survive

>>717346959
>"But you enjoyed it... didn't you?"
>"I watched your face while you held her down. Hehe, you should have seen how you looked when you removed her panties and bra."
>"Oh, don't judge me. Watching isn't my favorite activity. If anything , I find your denial far funnier. It's just the way you two were going at it you think you had never wanted anything less in live."
>"Besides, she clearly enjoyed it, even seems willing to admit. So, where's the harm?"

>>717347013
Gaster is basically the game's version of the Devil. His number is 666. And in this hypothetical scenario, Kris makes a deal with the Devil and sells his soul, given that he needs the Player for something and he's been preparing for our arrival. Makes sense given the desperation of losing your friend.

>>717343194

>>717346970
But it isn't the exact same way, though. Your representation in Undertale is Chara, that's why that game's intro is Chara's fall. Your theory of the SOUL being the exact same and not Frisk's is what doesn't work, since this entire conversation happened because you said that made you confused and didn't make sense.

>>717347056
>I see that you have dismissed my dismissal, so I dismiss your dismissing my dismissal
k

>Page 10
Inb4 Susie-in-a-dress-with-a-futa-cock-bulge anon shows up.

>>717347229
>Linking threads
Bro...

>>717347198
Kris and Noelle are such sick fucks that are perfect for each other

>>717347126
>A Boss Monster's SOUL
You think Dess is a boss monster?

>Well my answer to that is that Kris and Dess didn't know what the fuck they were doing.
Sure, but unless it's just normal for humans in deltarune to pull out their soul it seems unlikely. I suspect that SOMETHING in the shelter allowed humans to remove their soul.

Thread's on page 10, post kinography.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAJGNUPqru0

>>717347259
>your representation in Undertale is Chara
And Frisk is a distinct character from them, so where is Frisk’s soul
>no it’s Frisk’s soul
Ok where is Chara’s soul

>>717347367
I wasn't going to, but since you asked...

>>717347317
>literally ask for an explanation
>dismissal
Perhaps I mistook your lack of reading comprehension for flippancy.

>>717347656