Thread 717363429

How do you open a dark fountain irl?
I want to access the darkner world to see what my room would look like if it was darker than dark.

you literally saw twice how to do it

hit a gas pipe with a knife

>>717364114
speaking of which, would it still have been a tv world if kris took out tenna outside and only then opened a fountain

>>717364470
No, It probably wouldn't have even felt like home to Kris and it would have been some kind of fucked up divorce world

>>717364470
probably not since the room is mostly furniture

>>717364114
>wuuu, he came all over me and didn't even buy me dinner
>wuu

>>717364114
Could be worse. At least you don't gave the jade cave in your room.

>>717363429 (OP)
>have a bunch of anime figures of cute girls
later virgins

YOU ARE ABOUT TO
MEET SOMEONE
VERY, VERY
WONDERFUL.

>>717364114
Kris gets to play Pikmin.

Reminder that she did literally nothing wrong on-screen so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_6wj2zCpfc
You chuds better watch this kino.

>>717371263
Nah

>>717371263
>Japanese fans don't have to deal with this shit
why did i have to be born white

>>717371547
But on the other hand all their Krusie art is boring

While Noelle is a high class vessel nothing compared to Frisk but still I still kinda wish Kris would grow a pair and dope himself on my determination juice for something, maybe I will stop laughing at him for having his mom boned then

>>717364114
>mfw about to open a dark fountain next to all of my onaholes

>>717371547
At least you don't have a tiny penis I presume

wwhy is kris piss. why is kris piss #cungadero

>>717372479
i have an average uncircumcised penis slightly bended to the left

>>717372626
I think you should kill yourself, Vessel

>>717369720
She is adorable

Whenever I hear the Scarlet Forest soundtrack, I imagine Kris belly dancing.

So, who was giving out Shadow Crystals?
>Knight
>Gaster
>Friend
>appear by themselves

>>717363429 (OP)
Fun thought to think what my room would look like in the Darkner world. I know what mine when I was a kid would be like since it was naval themed. I had:
>A huge fishing net hanging on a wall (even used it to capture a bat that snuck in one time)
>A lobster cage with lobster dolls and sea shells
>Wallpaper printed with realistic islands, and the wall was painted sea blue
>A ship steering wheel that also served as a mirror
>Multiple treasure chests (with a really big one)
>Many, many toys themed around pirates (lego, fake lego, veggie tales, plastic and iron cast models, etc.) or sea creatures. Also a monkey plushie with a sailor uniform. Even played with an electronic fishing rod until the batteries ran out
>Some small decorations like a ship in a bottle, or a compass-thermometer-barometer ship clock
>When I was really young when the whole family was hopping upon a bed to spend time together, we used to call it “boarding the boat”
>Lighthouse shaped nightlight. Really helped me sleep when I was a kid afraid of the dark… I still have it and using it, but it’s more like I get uncomfortable sleeping without it. Like it would take one or two hours before I fall asleep.

>>717374842
i think "appear by themselves" makes the most sense because of the shadow crystal being in the mettaton neo body

>>717366201
Fucking
KINO
and krusty

>>717363429 (OP)
Stick a sharp object in a wall outlet, like a fork or knife

>>717363429 (OP)
Remember back before chapter 2 when people thought sealing a dark fountain effectively killed its respective darkners so people thought Ralsei was secretly evil because of that?

>>717374842
Broken dreams and forsaken hope rot and become shadow crystals

>>717376695
>ralsei is evil because he wants to seal fountains
>ralsei is evil because he talks with kris behind your back
>ralsei is evil because he is gathering an army of darkners in castle town
>ralsei is evil because he dismissed spamton's effect on kris
>ralsei is evil because isn't telling you the prophecy
>ralsei is evil because he never uses his flight or fire magic
what's next?

>>717376845
Ralsei is evil because he's a FAGGOT

>>717376845
Ralsei is evil because he hasn’t given Kris a complimentary blowjob

>>717376954
It's undertale/Deltarune, being straight in these games makes you evil and all the homos are good.

Why didn't you enjoy her fight, anon?
Zelda controls too difficult for you?
Her dialogue not schizophrenic enough for you?

>>717377001
What do you think he's doing when he tells you to think about Susie?

>>717377226
but I did have breakfast this morning

>>717377226
The fireballs are too random to effectively dodge

>>717377248
I KNEW IT

>>717377226
fucking bullshit bombs and bullets corner me every time

>>717377018
>Undyne and Mettaton try to kill you
>Papyrus is a pedophile
>yellow dinosaur thing is annoying
meanwhile
>Toriel wants to keep you safe
>Asgore hates the idea of killing innocents so he postpones the plan to collect 7 souls as far as possible when he could just cross the barrier with one

>>717364114
>A bunch of small clones of you mixed with socks running around.

>>717374842
Fourth option is the canon one according to the game.

COMING

>>717377226
>Put a mantle in Seam
>Now people want to fuck her.

>>717377872
Damn! Shawn looks like THAT!?

>>717378168
who the fuck is shawn

>>717378168
>>717378230

Shawm*

>>717377850
C'mere little bitch

>>717378168
Yep. Same mouth btw

JANNIES JANNIES JANNIES
DELTATROON GENERAL ESCAPED CONTAINMENT AGAIN

>>717378637
It's literally not but ok

>>717378750
>troon
go back tourist

>>717378637
>same mouth means same character
Holy shit bros you're not gonna believe this...

>>717378168
Fatter.

>>717378918
TOBY DOES IT AGAIN

UNTIL IT IS DONE, PARTNER

>Gaster is going to be a nothing burger
>The fandom will collectively suck Toby's cock and gaslight you into thinking you're retarded for ever thinking he'd be something serious

>>717379112
Gaster won't be a nothingburger but that is the exact reaction people outside of /v/ would have, yes.

>>717379112
>Me when the creepypasta simleyface that pops up for 2 seconds with literally zero mention or plot relevance actually didn't kill all those kids, didn't set the plot into motion, is not an evil demonic mastermind, will not have a boss fight where it says my irl name and address and social security number and bleed realistic blood at me, and I will have to discuss more themes than "demon bad"

>>717378786
Both have the orange mouth, bro.
>>717378918
Jackstein mouth isn't orange on the inside.

>>717378168
>>717378230
>>717378263
>>717379005
I will never be smothered to death by a bratty bath towel with thick fabric and a slutty laugh.

>>717380069
It hurts bro.

>>717379112
Thankfully not all of us exist in circlejerking bubbles that come up with the most blatantly idiotic fanon imaginable and convince yourselves its real, like you.

>>717379045
I am a PACIFIST at heart. I stand with Frisk.

is merry cd actually in gingerbread house or is the wiki being retarded again

stop jerking off to demons /v/

>>717379112
>>717379793
I mean, he's literally in the intro of the game. In charge of the save file menu. In charge of the trophies menu (and thus knows about the eggs), knows about the prophecy and your "guaranteed loss" to the knight.

He's already a part of the plot.

>>717380537
that's like saying the narrator is part of the story

>>717374842
Shadow Crystals are the Knight's tears.
>And so wept the fallen star, making rivers with its tears. Then, slowly, from the bitter water, something grew. It looked like glass.

>>717378918
TONY DOES IT AGAIN

>>717380696
Shadow Crystals are Atlantideum

>>717380679
Well, no, because the narrator isn't literally from another game. The narrator doesn't have fake ARG "cut content". The narrator isn't a scientist of the same company as the literal company that "owns" Deltarune and Undertale (Royal Sciences LLC). The narrator doesn't have associated sounds that play at the bunker. Don't be dumb.

>>717380679
When the narrator has a name an established lore and exerts control over the story then yes... the narrator is part of the story.

masochistic threesome with chara and eram

>>717380537
He's the equivalent of Alphys in Undertale

Let's see. The room I'm in has a TV my family is watching, a globe, and a big trampoline

>>717381023
wake me up when the narrator with a name, an established lore that exerts control over the story actually does something substantial

>>717372398
It could be worse

>>717380985
>Shadow Crystals described as being nearly invisible unless you see the shadow it draws
>just draws a piece of glass
>tumblr kris
aaiiee

>>717377226
I hope I'm tiny sized and can fit my whole body in there

How do "I PLACED A SEED INSIDE OF NOELLE WHICH WILL ALLOW ME TO CONTROL HER DIRECTLY" anons cope with the fact you can just control Susie normal-ass in chapter 2.

>>717381671
doesn't she just ignore your input

>>717381671
I forget, when does that happen?

Shit women want to fuck
>a depressed lazy manlet skeleton
>a hyperactive autistic skeleton
>a mentally unstable manlet
>8 foot tall nigga with a tv head
>a bartender made of fire
>a british manlet bartender
>mystery nigga who disappears after five seconds
Shit men want to fuck
>a smelly lizard girl
>a retarded cat-dog thing
>a dead 10 year old
>a femboy goat
>a edgy bath towel
>a mystery goop suit of armor
You fuckers are all weirdos

>>717381671
By jerking off to their fantasies of being inside a teen deer.

>>717364470
Definitely not. Would have probably been very unstable and warped without the anchoring context of Kris's home.

>>717381729
Yes. But the fact is that you can actually give her input. If you try to make her say the more outright romantic things she starts, then quickly stops. This means you still have some control over her. And you walk around with her before that anyways.

>>717381771
When you get to Noelle's room and Susie goes in alone.

>>717381817
Excuse me, I also want to fuck the alive 10 year old as well.

I want to torture a nude Loli chara

>>717381357
>>717380537

>>717381817
I want to fuck Onion (female) and the blue library creature (female)
what does that make me

>>717380679
>>717381357
This is like saying the narrator in Slay The Princess "isn't part of the story". When they exert an actual presence and influence on the world, then they are part of the story by default.

>actually does something substantial
He is literally the reason you can keep retrying the Knight fight until you beat it and actively cheers you on when you get close.

>>717382075
retard

>>717371759
Why are you always posting that. It's bullshit. Maybe try checking out more than 1 (one) artist for starters

post yfw Dess is a human who gave her soul to Kris and the goner maker was for Dess not Kris.

Kris is probably a ghost-possessed body like Hapstablook posessed Mettaton

>>717381939
Literally none of the choices you make in the Ferris wheel segment affect what Susie says. She ignores you every time.

>>717381817
You forgot
>grieving weeaboo in her 50s

>>717381939
Does she actually do or say anything different depending on your choices?
I know in chapter 1 when you think you're deciding for her you just have Kris yell out what you say

nevar 4get

>>717363429 (OP)
Turn the lights off and drop acid.

>>717382779
If Dess is human then who did Carol cuck her husband with?

>>717383125
Me

>>717383125
Kris went back in time to impregnate Carol with his own groomer.

>>717383365
>Incest pedo inception.

>>717382779
The knight is a monster with a human soul (dess + a second human we don't know about yet)

>>717381671
well what's your explanation of the red dot then

>>717383638
Blood according to sprite names.

>>717383545
The Knight literally has a giant hole showing you it has a big eldritch eyeball where a soul normally would go I swear you retards are just saying things without thinking to be pretend you'll be the epic guy that "got it"

>>717383545
The human is Kris. The Kris we're playing as is a clone. He'll betray everyone and then we'll start playing as the real Kris.

>>717383365
BRAVO TOBY

frisk solos everyone in deltarune

>>717384241
That adult Frisk is still sexo.

>>717384010
the eyeball is the soul or its covering it

>>717384435
Details like this are funny because Toby can literally just show you. No implication. No interpretation. The Knight doesn't have a soul. It literally opens up its chest to reveal that it has some weird thing in place of a soul. And you still go, "Actually it's not what you are literally shown."

>>717381817
Okay but Tumblr sexymen are a special breed of pathetic Anon, especially when massively forced.

>>717381941
gay

>>717384786
>Wanting to fuck women is gay

>>717384010
so what you're saying is: prunsel's the knight

>>717384696
Knight is Kris's SOUL + Dess truthers will win and you will cope.

>>717383695
yes there's absolutely no way that tricky tony would avoid spoiling stuff in filenames

>>717382779
Who the heck is dess?

>>717363429 (OP)
Just take away the darkness that isn't there bro it's that easy bro

Sans is better as a 'Edgy side character that does not give a fuck about the player's input' character than Susie is

>>717384983
Dess nuts

>>717384906
If the Knight's ENTIRE body was Kris's soul, I'd go for that. But the Knight, in literally 5 seconds, INSTANTLY dissipates 5 years of speculation by spreading its chest cavity wide open and showing you that it isn't some super cool homunculus piloted by Kris's REAL soul or something. Just like the green pippin shitting on everyone's Mike theories, there are actual, literal responses to fan speculation in the game.

>>717382975
her sprite is cross-eyed

>>717385068
That isn't what Susie is though

>>717385104
That may not be her entire character but she is edgy, she is a deuteragonist, and she does not give a fuck what the Player thinks

>>717385068
Susie is not edgy, that was a persona she was putting on to cope with her fear of loneliness and rejection
And it's not even that she doesn't give a fuck about the player's input, at this point she literally doesn't know about (Us)

>>717385068
Sans does care about your input. When you're a genocidal maniac he hides like a bitch. And when you're an innocent child he bullies you and says he'll fucking kill you because he thinks you're too bitch made to fight back.

>>717384931
Exactly.
https://tcrf.net/Deltarune/Chapter_4#Asgore.27s_Da_Boss

>>717385220
That's not what I mean by player input. He cares about genocide just as Susie will care about Snowgrave. Sans outright tells you to fuck off though by dodging your attacks, removing i frames and breaking the spare mechanic. Susie similarly tells you to fuck off by not listening to the answer to her questions and will likely pull off similar fuckery during her boss fight.

>>717385204
The bully shit was a persona. She is still pretty edgy without it. The whole 'I'm going to fucking kill you and shit down your neck' stuff from Sans is also a persona to hide how depressed he is at the current state of affairs, because he knows he can't really win. He is still pretty edgy without that.

Is Toby Fox a genius?

>>717381384
Who's is he?

>>717385526
Back in MY day, troons believed he was a FTM.

>>717385526
>>717385571
Real knowers know Ralsei is the spirit of a dead boy Toby Fox trapped in a video game to make Susie real

>>717385526
>transition
>avoid the chuddie prophecy
BRAVO
trannies really hate the existence of traps lmao

>>717384696
>I refuse to look at things past the surface level
don't be surprised when you end up getting tricked.

Which way human?

>>717385526
People like this make me genuinely embarrassed to say I like this game

>>717385675
>>I refuse to look at things past the surface level
It LITERALLY goes deeper than surface level

>>717363429 (OP)
Google "how to tie a noose"

>>717375757
What would the lighthouse night light become?

>>717384861
oh like how lancer is underswap blueberry sans huh

>>717384861
>prunsel's
Who?

>>717382158
Gaster...

>>717385779
Your own argument is that it's what toby is presenting you. And because he's showing you something it's the truth. Explain how that isn't a surface level analysis.

>>717385675
>
This isn't like, "Oh Kris only ate the pie at the end of chapter one." When we know by now that Kris spends all night opening fountains and hanging out with the Knight.
This isn't "Oh How to Draw Dragons has a sexy dinosaur in it, that's why Kris likes Susie." When the truth is just that Asriel is a scalie gooner and it's a coincidence that the dragon girl looks like Susie.

This is a response. To you. To tell you that your immediate speculation is wrong. This is everyone saying for years that Kris is jacking his dick to the How to Draw Dragons book only for Chapter 2 to plainly say, "Your brother will never give back this book." This is you saying for years that "Obviously the Knight has a soul inside of them" only for its LITERAL FUCKING CHEST CAVITY TO FUCKING BURST OPEN AND REVEAL A WEIRD EYEBALL INSTEAD OF A SOUL.

>>717386134
You straight up don't know what "surface-level" observation is.

>>717385526
Everyone engaged in all this troon nonsense doesn't actually care about the game, in fact, they hate it.

>>717386102
Reddit meme.

>>717386243
The Knight soul is in the hoof instead

>>717386243
>This isn't "Oh How to Draw Dragons has a sexy dinosaur in it, that's why Kris likes Susie." When the truth is just that Asriel is a scalie gooner and it's a coincidence that the dragon girl looks like Susie.
Both are true

>>717386243
>This isn't "Oh How to Draw Dragons has a sexy dinosaur in it, that's why Kris likes Susie." When the truth is just that Asriel is a scalie gooner and it's a coincidence that the dragon girl looks like Susie.
>implying asriel didn't check it out on kris' behalf because the library wouldn't give that book to a kid kris' age, and asriel is a bro

>>717386243
>its LITERAL FUCKING CHEST CAVITY
The Knight is wearing some kind of magic bullshit armor
By Kris's own admission the Knight is wearing a helmet and it can still do this shit

>>717386470
>>717386595
If anything it's because Dess would jerk Kris off while watching fat alligator asses on MTV that turned him all funny.

>>717385715
GREEN AND PURPLE
GREEN AND PURPLE
GREEN AND PURPLE
GREEN AND PURPLE

>>717385748
Same

>>717386629
>kris sent dess to the negative world because she molested him
>now he's trying to rescue her because he's realized how hot it was

>>717386243
None of this is an actual argument because I never said any of those things, you are just so convinced that you are right that you can't even imagine being wrong. Why can't there be a soul in the eyeball, or why can't the eyeball be some kind of corrupted soul? Your only argument against this is that you don't like it.

>>717386661
IF YOU SMOKE THIS SHIT
YOU WILL BE HIGH FOR DAYS

>>717386623
>By Kris's own admission the Knight is wearing a helmet and it can still do this shit
When does he say that?

>>717386759
What you're saying is not a theory anon, you have zero basis for any of this, and no information leading you to your conclusion, and the info that is given in the game directly contradicts your idea. You're posting a stoner thought and have convinced yourself of its legitimacy somehow.

>>717387153
Think about the Knight in Chapter 4.

>>717386759
>Never said any of those things
Are you an actual retard? Christ. You're telling me your amazing theory on the price of oranges going up and I go, "Well the price of lemons goes up when the supply goes down." and some similar examples. And you're going, "Oh that doesn't fucking disprove my theory because I wasn't talking about lemons."
>You are so convinced that you're right you can't imagine being wrong
Talk about the pot calling the kettle a nigger.
>Why can't there be a soul in the eyeball or why can't the eyeball be a soul
Because it's one thing to be actively tricked. To have Kris pull some weird edgy ending to chapter one. To have Kris just fucking stop zombie shuffling when you aren't looking because he's actually goofing on your dumb ass. And then there's the actual, creative decision to show you with your own two functional eyes, "Yeah if you thought there was a soul there, there isn't."

I can't fucking disprove, "Well what if at the end of chapter 2 Kris didn't actually open up a fountain and actually the Knight showed up and opened the fountain for real offscreen?" Even if it's completely contradictory to what we're actually shown. There's nothing to "disprove".

>>717387153
When Susie goes in to get the last puzzle solution and Ralsei tells you to think about her, you can choose to think about the Knight instead (or Noelle on Snowgrave). If you do, Kris imagines the Knight pulling off their helmet before he immediately starts thinking about Jockington surrounded by eggs so you don't know the Knight's identity.
Of course, since this is Kris' thoughts, it's possible the helmet is itself misdirection by Kris.

>>717387270
It could also be part of its body. Monster's clothes are part of their body in UT, as evidenced by them dissolving with the monster wearing them when they die.

>>717385715
What game is middle?

>>717387185
You could say the same about almost every knight theory because of how little we know about them right now, so why don't you tell me your theory about why the knight is so strong? Because as far as I'm concerned the idea that the knight has a human soul is just as probable as any other theory out there right now and arguably has more evidence pointing to it just based on the connections between deltarune and undertale.
>>717387580
first of all
>food analogy
you're a retard for thinking these two scenarios are at all comparable. And you still haven't given any actually argument as to why there can't be a soul in the eye. The knight's chest isn't empty, it has the eye right where the soul could be and you're just assuming that the eye has to take its place instead of covering it up. As long as a soul could be there you have no way of actually proving me wrong, just like I have no way of proving there is a soul there for sure. This isn't at all the same as me saying Kris didn't actually open the fountain because there is nothing that could be misleading about that scene. You don't know what the eye is, so you have no room to be telling me what I should think it is.

>>717387979
I wani hug that gator

>>717364114
>Commanding an army of sperm people
Kino.

>>717388032
>Food analogy
Actually kill yourself.

>Give me an actual argument
It's an eye. Not a soul. If it were a soul it would look like a soul. Give me an argument for how there's actually a brain in your skull, ya dumbass.

>As long as a soul COULD be there
But it isn't. There's just an eye.

>It isn't the same as that because there's no misdirection
The misdirection would be making you think that what Kris did was open up a fountain and then revealing later that actually opening up a fountain looks totally different. Just like how an eyeball is actually a soul and it'll just be revealed later to be a soul. I really don't know how you can go, "Yeah that theory is fucking retarded and stupid there's literally nothing that implies what you're saying." When that's what you're doing.

>>717388359
>Each one has a name
That'd honestly make me sad realizing they'll disappear once I close the fountain and dry up into nothing

>>717388032
It is possible everything you are saying is correct, by pure happenstance
There is still zero reason to think that's a soul at all, let alone Kris'
Every single time we've seen a soul without exception it is the standard shape

>>717386595
Didn't Asriel like one of the lizzer characters on the not-Smash Bros. game?

>>717388750
he liked yoshi until he got bullied about it
now he apparently likes the magician girl

>>717388750
He liked not Yoshi and then switched to not Fire Emblem character

>>717388231
Thank you, is it worth playing?

>>717388881
>>717388953
If he got teased over it doesn't it reinforce that Asriel is the scalie in the family? Bratty was also his first date iirc.
>>717389003
It's as kino as VNs can get. I recommend it and Snoot Game.

>>717389003
It's pretty good

>>717388750
Yes, but now he likes Pyra.

>>717377324
>Too random
Anon just walk back and forth... Stop doing long strides and trying to dodge them...

>>717389216
bratty was his first kiss
it's pretty unclear what exactly the timeline is with asriel, we know he might've had something with bratty for a bit, successfully asked catti out to the dance, and dess stole his shirt and retainer, but not when those happened and in which order

>>717377324
literally just walk to where they aren't

>>717389504
Dess was first because she got lost as a child.

>>717389620
her room looks like one of a teenager, 15 at least
both catty and bratty never mention dess for whatever reason, which is strange because from the sounds of it asriel and dess were pretty close and they all would've been classmates

>she still doesn't know
>she thinks she does, but she still has no idea how bad things really are

>>717366201
NOOOOO YOU CAN'T CALL HIM THAT

>>717389770
It probably hurts them to mention her name if they were close.

I cannot wait to gaslight Susie when she finds out we're a separate entity from Kris

>>717389920
Don't you fucking dare or I'm gonna separate your entity

If Kris was a monster would he be a dog or a goat?

>>717390035
kris got that dog in em

>>717390035
He'd still be adopted, so dog.

>>717389770
>her room looks like one of a teenager, 15 at least
I've seen this claim throw around, but I really don't get it. Is it all because of the unique leaves?

>>717390035
>>717390149
yeah, dog 100%

>>717390270
Why ralsei is bnnuy

>>717390204
i just go off what we know of her personality and her room as a whole
13 feels too young for a wannabe punk rocker, and we know her and asriel hadn't graduated yet
maybe she was 14, but no younger than that
i want to say that kris/ noelle were around 8-9 when she went missing

>>717390343
twink

>>717390343
because he's soft and fluffy
and you know what they say about rabbits

>>717390204
Also all the milspec survival gear.

THEORY

FRIEND is a reference to a black cat with yellow eyes that toby had that got a pinkeye or something

>>717363429 (OP)
In your room right now:
Who would be the main boss (if there can be one)? Hard Mode: not your computer.
Who would be the mini bosses?
Who would be the shop keeper(s)?
Who would be the schizo boss?
Where would FRIEND show up?

>>717389770
Dess was probably very unpopular and disliked by her classmates.

>>717390502
i believe that FRIEND is a reference to hp lovecraft's beloved cat and will aid gaster in his time of need

>>717390270
We need art of fem Kris (that is, canon Kris) getting trained like a dog

The more Dess stuff I keep seeing the more I hate Carry & Bratty and wish they should fucking die already

>>717390559
i can see that for the susie parallels
if dess is the knight, she must've had a very high opinion of gerson, which makes sense since he seemed to have a knack for helping troubled kids

>>717390643
*Catty, not Carry fuck

>>717390375
>i want to say that kris/ noelle were around 8-9 when she went missing
The age-gap between the two isn't 6-5 years. Too large.
>>717390456
I feel like a child could still have those, especially one that likes exploring.

>>717390617
shit's dire out there
the only puppy femkris image i've seen is >>717390149
given that kris (forma de female) seems to be gaining a bit more traction than before, hopefully we start seeing more of it soon

>>717390035
>Personality of a cat
>acts like a dog
>wants to be a goat.
Lykoi cat?

>>717390617
Dogirls are hot but people literally only drawn catgirls.

>>717390548
>Who would be the main boss (if there can be one)? Hard Mode: not your computer.
My bookshelf that contains everything I have
>Who would be the mini bosses?
The tabletop miniatures near the bookshelf
>Who would be the shop keeper(s)?
My dresser selling me new armor and my closet selling me weird weapons
>Who would be the schizo boss?
The broken watch in a box under my bed that sees time as a suggestion
>Where would FRIEND show up?
He'd be behind my blinds

>>717390375
>13 feels too young for a wannabe punk rocker
You do not want to know how many girls at my school were wannabe punk rockers when Avril Lavigne first got big.

>>717390735
i think 5-7 years is perfect for the age difference
remember that dess was pretty protective of noelle, and kris was often seen following asriel around like a puppy
if the age gap was 2-3 years that would feel much stranger

>>717390643
How so? For cucking Dess? She was dead/missing.

>>717376845
>Ralsei knows about the player
>Ralsei knows we will decide the fate of the world
>Keeps us in the dark anyways
>Doesn't even let us know what the final prophecy is despite wanting to avert it
>Has private conversations with that rat Kris
Trust is a two-way street. He doesn't trust me so why would I trust him?

>>717390790
Touhou fandom exists.

>>717390859
i would've been like 6 at the time, the big female singers when i was younger were katy perry, lady gaga, and early taylor swift
i think kesha was also around

>>717390680
It would also explain why so few people seem to reference her.

I think Susie stopped being a fictional character for Toby and started being him living his cute tomboy gf fantasy vicariously through his game. I don't blame him, I want one too.

What did you name yourself/your vessel?

>>717391078
Deltarune is his attempt to will a tulpa wife into existence.

>>717391193
My real world name.

Then the game called me out on them being the same.

>>717390870
Asriel has just gone to college, and Toriel says Kris will soon follow him. That's impossible with such a large age-gap.

>>717390982
Touhou has doggirls?

>>717388445
I'm not saying the eyeball HAS to be the soul itself you fucking idiot, the soul is part of whatever creature it's inside. If that creature just so happens to have an eye inside its body then the soul could still be there. Your argument is literally just "the soul isn't there because I can't see it". Do you think Susie doesn't have a soul because you haven't cut her open to look inside yet?
>Give me an argument for how there's actually a brain in your skull, ya dumbass
because I'm a human and humans have brains in their skulls. this also works for undertale where it's shown that every living creature has a soul. I guess it's possible that deltarune is playing by different rules in that regard, but the fact that the library talks about souls as if everyone has them makes me think otherwise. So what exactly makes you think the knight can't have a soul?
>>717388658
The only soul we've seen in deltarune is kris'/ours. Even if the soul has to be the same shape as the only one we've seen, I don't see why it couldn't still be inside the eye. The soul is also the easiest explanation for the knight's strength.

>>717391335
Entire race of them. Also several beast youkai.

>>717390270
what a dork

>>717391193
>Vessel
Varik
>Name
My first name

>>717391193
>vessel
kanye
>creator
my name

Reminder that Tenna would hate Spamton with a burning passion.

>>717391351
Personally I don't think Kris will have a soul, it would break the metanarrative of the game too much (SOUL=Player). The Souls were handled really clumsily in Undertale too.since the game wants us to think we aren't Frisk but never explains where Frisk's soul is

>>717390548
>Who would be the main boss (if there can be one)? Hard Mode: not your computer.
My bed, a slothful king who embraces and relishes his Dark World as a comforting dream world with everything a lightner could ever ask for, but probably would use force to keep me from leaving it.
>Who would be the mini bosses?
My computer, pictures of my childhood dog, and various old plushes I keep away since childhood.
>Who would be the shop keeper(s)?
One of my nightstands with all my meds, contact lenses, and various odds and ends.
>Who would be the schizo boss?
I've got a second, rarely used nightstand with unused electronics inside. They'd fuse together like fucking Voltron or some shit.
>Where would FRIEND show up?
My closet.

SMOOCHED.com

>>717391592
>Tenna, a massive pushover on the level of Ralsei, would hate Spamton, as Tenna is obviously known for someone who hates his past glory and isn't desperately clinging on to anything that made him "famous"

Yeah nah.

>>717391678
Toriel would force Dess to marry Asriel if she found them like this.

>>717390548
>Who would be the main boss (if there can be one)? Hard Mode: not your computer.
A glowing acrylic stand of Solid Snake.
>Who would be the mini bosses?
A MIDI Keyboard, a carpet that looks like faux animal skin, an abstract paining.
>Who would be the shop keeper(s)?
A plush of a pig I have.
>Who would be the schizo boss?
Either the abstract painting or more likely a lost spider.
>Where would FRIEND show up?
Under my semi-broken bed. Or in the floorboards, as some of them are not connected properly and there are gaps.

>>717391678
>"anyways, im gonna go kiss bratty and ask out catty. see you later"
no wonder dess went for his little brother, what a retard

>>717391592
It's more the other way around

>>717391628
I feel like Kris has to have had a soul at some point before us. It doesn't really make sense for him to have the cage and the bloodstain in his room otherwise. That's also confusing though because then you have to ask why Kris was ripping out his soul and throwing it in the cage before we were controlling him.

>>717391859
Kris is a lucky guy.

>>717391628
>Frisk's soul is
In her body. Always find it funny when people complain about Undertale's writing being bad, but it's all because they force their headcanon into the game when it doesn't fit.

What’s their endgame?

>>717391978
>her

>>717391936
What if humans develop a soul during puberty?

>>717391736
>Toriel is cockblocking Asriel to save himself for someone who might be dead

Imagine how much Toriel stocks would tank if this was true.

>>717390548
I keep a massive warhammer+historical collection in my sleeping room, so:
The matress is just replaced.
My Deff Dread. Dante. And Blackbeard.
My cook books.
My magic the gathering collection hidden in one of my cupboards.
When falling into the hell of unassembled minis.

>>717391628
The soul in Undertale is Frisk's
The player is something else influencing him and that's never really explained that well

>>717391978
To add on, SOULS aren't a separate entity from a person. Asriel lacking a SOUL and thus not being himself is a major plot-point, and so is Chara dying so Asriel could take her SOUL. Kris NOT having a SOUL is what would break the lore.

The player isn't a SOUL, they're the demon that comes when you call it's name (naming screen). The SOUL you play in Deltarune's is the Vessel's.

>>717391859
Does Dess canonically call Kris a freak?

>>717391978
If we are playing as Frisk's soul for the entire game then the thematic reveal of Frisk's name at the end of the True Pacifist run (to signify that we are not Frisk and have immersed ourself by doing the TPR) is meaningless

>Howdy, Dess! I didn't know you were coming over, did you want to-
>Oh...
>You came over to see... Kris, again.
>No, no, it's fine! I can just... Sit here, in the living room!
>Yeah, our parents won't be home until later...
>B- but, you know, I really think you guys shouldn't be so loud, anyways!
>H-huh? No way! I'm not... I don't listen to you two!
>It's just... Even when I turn up the volume, it's like I can hear you guys upstairs more than I can hear Yoshi, haha...

>>717392036
Problem?

>>717392147
Only after she found out he gets aroused by her hooves

>>717391736
That would be Carol, Toriel would just grab Asgore's gun.

>>717392064
I think they would actually go to the moon, everyone loves Dessriel.

>>717392064
She's out of her hands now. Asriel is having insane amount of sex right now. Especially with human women

>>717392203
>Everyone loves Dessriel
I think you're ignoring the actual implications of this. Including how it makes her an actual hypocrite in multiple ways.

>>717392181
Why would it be? You canonically are still playing as Frisk anyways, SOUL or no SOUL. The SOUL isn't portrayed as a separate being from Frisk in Undertale at any point. Plus the reveal is that Frisk isn't CHARA, if we want to be accurate. That works anyways.

Kress+Susiel is thinking man's shipping.

>>717392182
>"Chara, did I ever tell you about Dess holiday? She was our neighbor and my little brothers punk tomboy lover."

>>717392147
I always saw dess as someone that would call Kris a freak but in a playful manner (based off of my tomboy best friend as a teenager)

>>717391936
The SOUL was likely the "demon" that Kris and Catti summoned. He seems to have enough awareness of the SOUL's capabilities before we started using them. But that begs the question of how he learned about all this in the timespan between the summoning and our usage of the game. It doesn't make much sense for him to know so much if the SOUL was purely inert.
>>717392054
>children are soulless

>>717392335
Why is it okay for women to do this but when I peek on shirtless underage girls I get put on a list?

>>717392476
Sounds believable. Especially since it's not uncommon in the fandom.

>>717392270
I'm trying to put this into words so maybe it's not coming across right
The idea that we are playing as Frisk, but also we are Chara at the same time, is really messy. The implication is that outside of the True Pacifist route we are doing things that Frisk wouldn't naturally do, and in Genocide route we're going to the far extreme of the things he wouldn't do. So outside of the TPR, you never hear Frisk's name because (You) are the one in control rather than him. TPR is the only time Frisk is treated as a character, in every other route it's just our avatar

>>717392476
Every Holiday will be based off someone...

>>717392147
The only thing we really have to go off of Dess's behavior is uh...
>The implication that Susie is a lot like her
>Noelle's description of her kindness towards Noelle and the way she'd kick Kris's ass if she bothered Noelle
>Tenna basically implying that Kris and Dess spent x amount of time alone together and Dess used that to teach him piano (don't know how she did that in front of Tenna) and watching saucy TV together (implying she's the one who told him the parental codes)

>>717392781
>pic related
>the guitar section of raise up your bat uses the same motif as papyrus’ cool song

What is wrong with that girl? I bet she had LiveLeak bookmarked.

Oh yeah another thing about Dess that people don't bring up a lot is that she ran a fucking cryptids blog where she would talk about seeing spooky scary shit around town.

Ok, with the flowers darkners all but confirmed, as well as the existence of the tsunderecactus and Gerson's resurrection in the latest chapters, the rules for what exactly separates Darkners from Lightners seems to be looser than expected. Playing cards aren't alive the same way plants are, yet both are Darkners in a dark world. How "alive" do you have to be in order to be classified as a Lightner? Would insects, birds, canines, and other common animals be Darkners as well, or are they "alive" enough to be treated as Lightners? If its the former, would an animal remember being a Darkner after the fountain is sealed? Could any type of remains, dusty or bony, be brought back to life in a Dark World?

>>717393145
You could basically make the opposite of this where it's like "Chapter 4 was so fucking childish man" and it's all the more serious moments.

>>717393145
Always reminds me of chapter 1 fags who memoryholed everything between locker scene and King fight.

>>717385834
Either it becomes an entity like Tenna, or a landmark I guess? Would you like to tell me what you can envision? Here’s a pic I just took.

>>717393145
Why did you put the scene where Sans fucks your mom in there? That scene was played completely seriously to show how much seeing that shit hurt Kris.

Patting ralsei until he splat.ogg

>>717393194
>Would other animals become darkners
This is a no-brainer. The answer being "no".
>Could any type of remains
Have you never heard someone refer to a corpse as an "object"?
I can feel no remorse when seeing a dead body. To me it's merely cold rotting flesh.
As long as you recognize, "That's x person", they'll probably become a darkner.

See, not that loose at all.

>>717385557
A Hitachi Magic Wand.

>>717392936
the fuck does the picture indicate?

>>717393848
To Anon I'm sure he thinks it's a HUGE UNDERTALE CONNECTION THE TWO GAMES ARE ACTUALLY CONNECTED.

But the other text here is that Dess might also just be a dork trying to be cool.

>Open fountain
>Secret boss is your PC
>It's even more disappointed in you than your parents

>>717393926
Maybe your PC because you're such a self-hating cuck. My PC would be, "HELL YEAH BRO, TIME FOR ANOTHER 9 HOUR TUG SESH."

>>717393194
Have we ever seen an actual animal in Deltarune or Undertale, for that matter?

>>717393980
>That pic
Some animal people in Undertale start out as normal animals and grow into furries. And one of those two characters are evidence of this.

>>717393980
Susie asks if Kris had a pet bird or something, so the implication is that they do exist

>>717393980
The bird that carries you across a disproportionally small gap and the snails

>>717393980
>1000167220.jpg
Undertale has snails which get eaten. Other than that, no. Not even any pets even though Hometown is based on American small towns and pet-owning is huge in America.

>>717391592
What is this based on?

>>717371759
>Is clearly bending her backwards so that he can kiss her from above despite her being much taller than him
>Anon gives her short legs instead

>>717391592
>would
Anon, he does, On screen.

>>717394067
Just gonna ignore Bratty's house full of cats.

>>717394069
a Garfield meme

>>717393546
More like Susie plapping on Ralsei's goat tower until he splat.oggvorbis amirite?

>>717393924
>Dess might also just be a dork trying to be cool
People like to portray her as actual cool girl who was dominant one in the relationship with Azzy, but I wonder if she was pretending to be cool as much as Susie pretended to be tough. Even in Knight form she acts like a weeb edgelord. I wonder if she was also losing spaghetti in front of Asriel.

>>717393436
nta but I’d rather make an OC with your nose shaped stand holding your glasses

>>717392936
>>the guitar section of raise up your bat uses the same motif as papyrus’ cool song
What the fuck? Proof?

>>717393980
Does this count?

>>717394309
No that's her brother.

>>717394407
>See a literal bunny rabbit
>No it doesn't count

Come on man.

Also, the cat petterz series implies there are regular cats. Or that blacksploitation is really popular in Deltarune's setting.

>>717394530
The quote was 'actual animal' and a baby monster that looks like an animal doesn't count.

The catz based on real cats is the closest we ever got.

>>717394792
Well if the closest we ever got was literal 100% verification that real pet animals exist, then your line of questioning is over.

>>717393980
We have seen snails, birds, and humans. Deltarune implies regular cats exist.

>>717392492
>Yeah man, it's weird. You don't really get a soul until your 18 or 25 I don't remember. Until then you're a thing driven by instinct and hormones.

>>717381893
my current theory is that dark worlds form around the "king" darkner.
>card world is focused around the king
>computer world is focused around queen
>TV world is focused around tenna
without a leader darkner dictating a space you get "incoherent outskirt" areas. like the cliffs, outer cyberfields, the planks, glowing snow, and the cold zone.
the church world is the result of a dark world that DOESNT have a proper leader, as a whole its largely like other outskirt areas. just populated so it doesnt really have the dusty bits.
note how tenna's presence quickly brought life to the planks, and outside of the green room TV world is more like the church (a populated incoherent space)
also note the only fully coherent space is focused around gerson (his study), and in susie's dark world that space becomes incoherent
if you were to form kris's living room without tenna, there wouldnt be a proper king so the whole space would end up like the church. given that ramb felt important, he might be able to hold the green room together.

>>717394940
>Theory
You mean how it is literally explained to you with no ambiguity by Shutta?

>>717390735
>>717391281
December was already missing at the time of the spelling bee Noelle lost to Berdly. We can only see Noelle's silhouette in the flashback, but she's way smaller than she is now. Also, it's been a while since I've thought about spelling bees at all, but aren't those usually for elementary schoolers?

So spamton really is just a pos isn't he? What made him this way?

>>717394976
thats another thing entirely, it implies that BEFORE the dark world formed the place was a mix of incoherent regions.
which begs a different question of if ralsei is telling the truth about how dark worlds exist.

>>717381384
Berdly's toy

Ramb was important. What a champion.

I wonder what the living room dark world would've looked like if Toriel, or ASSgore or even Asriel were to have opened it.

>>717395101
>That's another thing

People really need to fucking learn to give out small concessions instead of going full retard-mode and going, "No, actually the dialogue which gives a basis to my entire theory is talking about something else."

Suck my dick man.

>>717395120
did you luv him?
did you shed a tear for him?

>>717394921
>So what do you use it for?
>It's mainly used by kids to knock cookie jars off the high shelves but they shouldn't be taking it out anyways?
>Why?
>What do you think happens when you take a beetle out of the band Yoko? They die. Well not instantly but slowly. Kind of. It's weird and sometimes they can put their soul in another monster or something.
>So it's like a soul rape?
>Yeah good luck seeing that hold up in court. Gonna be hard to convince a judge that the power of love impregnated someone's daughter.

>>717395037
He’s based on spam mail.

>>717394940
Well it makes sense with how Toby was inspired by OFF. In that game, the bosses were given power to shape their respective worlds to their whim.

>>717395379
why can a digital concept become a darkner but not some other common objects?

>>717377226
Artificiall difficulty with the candy drops.
Once you figure out your i-frames are broken, you can just spam attack and win past a certain point. I wish it was more of a puzzle fight like in actual zelda.
I know OG zelda was not that great boss-wise.

So I'm guessing that Gaster is looking for someone that can defy fate
Which is why he's happy that we beat the Knight despite the fact that the fight is supposed to be unwinnable

>>717383695
If it's blood, why is it moving when you think of Noelle in CH4? It's the seed of a soul or some such thing.

>>717394407
Kinky.

>>717381817
cute black Chara

>>717394940
oh yeah and to add onto this, it seems that "schizo potential" bosses are strong enough to define their own regions as well
>jevil's prison room had become warped by his chaos
>spamton was able to hold together a unique space in the dump and warp the basement when he got the crystal
>ramb was able to hold together enough to keep the true game accessible, despite tenna wanting it out of the picture completely. would've gotten the crystal
>gerson was able to hold together his study. had a crystal but didnt use it.
seems that simply being powerful enough gives a darkner the ability to define a space, could be how certain areas of castle town are defined by certain darkners (the chess pieces remaking some of the board (presumably they have a king we havent seen yet) the personal boss rooms, the shops seemingly being transplanted from their home worlds...)
>>717395389
thats another thing too, combined with >>717395101 we are probably going to get some REALLY fucked up shit if we get the ability to go back to former dark worlds without actually opening a fountain. beware the space that lancer is digging out in his room, it might connect to the remains of card kingdom...
>>717395226
note how i didnt say that its entirely irrelevant, just that its largely another thing.
also reddit spacing lmao, go back.

>>717395025
>Ok Noelle for the win, spell the name of your dead sister
Delightfully devilish Toriel

>>717381817
>a berdly
>8 foot tall nigga with a tv head
>a bartender made of fire
>a british manlet bartender
>pizzapants
>a boy goat
I want to fuck these but I'm male

>>717395440
The computer room has printed out spam mails and ads lying around

>>717395784
Next time he's gonna put ketchup packets under his shirt.

>>717395784
>This is how Kris dies

>>717395572
We didn't beat the knight though.
We got it down to like 70% and Kris decides to own us before the forced loss cutscene where we game over because the knight decided we die now

>>717393436
I kinda see a face on it, so I think it becomes a darkner. Since he's a night light and a light house, both things meant to help those shrouded in darkness, I think he'd be sort of a guardian or guide figure, protecting people from what dwells in the dark. Basically he fends off the deep darkness that would otherwise create spawn and other terrible things.

>>717393810
No, who's the hitachi magic wand is he? Who does he belong to?

>>717393436
that light
it's like some king of friend inside...

>>717396192
we only got the forced loss cutscene because the knight pretended to be beat, kris went along with it, and susie+ralsei didnt know better.
if we fight the knight in our vessel that shit wont fly.

>>717396295
berdly

>>717393926
My PC would be a cut throat CEO who works his employees like a slave driver. He'd probably force me into some oppressive and incredibly busy office complex for seemingly selfish reasons, but really all he wants to do is make me more productive so I finish all the projects I started on him, because he's a business machine, meant to help with productivity.

>>717395786
>Reddit spacing
Kill yourself faggot.

>I didn't say that it was entirely irrelevant, just that it's an entirely different thing
That's what that MEANS, dipshit. Being a totally different thing means it's COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to what you're talking about. I wouldn't use cat health tips on fish because IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT, ENTIRELY IRRELVANT THING.

Like I said. The whole point of this is that you're such a narcissistic faggot that you are literally taking the one dialogue in the entire game which takes everything you're packaging as "speculation" and "thought exercise" and presents it as the actual, canon explanation. And you're tossing it in the garbage because you don't want to be "wrong".

>>717395572
Beating the Knight had literally nothing to do with defying fate

>>717396435
Haha you do utilize reddit spacing althoughsoever

>>717393980
The annoying dog is just a regular dog, and it stays the same in the dark world as it is in the light.

>>717396435
>unreliable narration in toby's games? NEVER!
>yes i believed in kris knight after chapter 2 why do you ask?

>>717396387
I'm 100% sure the knight was about to pull out some shit that would have killed the lancer fan club if he didn't intervene and swoon sussy and mercedes benz

>>717396245
Is he dead?
>>717396387
The knight was only holding back. In Undertale and Deltarune, the only enemies capable of using completely unavoidable attacks are those who are either extremely powerful or who can abuse the rules of the universe. The Knight is one of those.

>>717396684
"He" being Kris that is.

>>717389710
Good lord that's adorable

>>717396540
The annoying dog is Toby Fox.

you guys have seen this right

>>717396786
kris is batman

>>717396765
Its his self insert, but its also just a normal dog.

>>717393436
I know it sounds crazy to say, but since it produces light and symbolizes light inside the dark, what if it becomes a reversed dark fountain? A light fountain? At first glance the glowing part makes me think of a dress made of light, while the obscured parts above and below the glow makes me think of long flowing hair and a fluffy tail

>>717396232
Fuck… you distorted view and now the glowing parts look like spamton’s glasses and the obscured part below his nose

They're coming from the pipes. They're coming from the pipes and they aren't stopping

>>717396786
Kris is sans after not surviving

Why isn't Queen/Noelle a popular ship?

>>717396295
Ms. Not-Appearing-In-This-Game

For me? Is Susie x Rlaasey

>>717397008
muffet

>>717363874
Thrice

>>717396947
>Kris is the one who told Tenna to do everything he does in Chapter 3
>Meaning that Tenna's apology at this moment is a legitimate apology to Kris for failing to find a way to get rid of all the ICE-E icecube guys from the freezer

>>717397008
>posts a boy
okay...

>>717397001
Not enough art of it gets posted is my guess

>>717397001
Full pic?

>>717386623
You know I never really gave it much thought but what the fuck is that eye
supposed to be in its chest

Kris don't fall asleep in Church. School it's one thing, but church is important. Start awake and pay attention

>>717391193
You joke, but I think Kris would've trusted the player more if they pulled this off.
>Oh shit, he's actually based! Fuck, I can't even be mad at him for possessing me anymore.

>>717392017
to turn things back to normal

I still think Gaster won't be important in this game. He's probably not even who we're talking to at the beginning or after losing to the knight.

>>717397029
Perseverance? Never heard of it.

>>717396491
>implying
nta just wanted to point out redditors have tricked newfags into thinking basic email formatting is from reddit because they're to retarded to press enter twice.

>>717397651
Crazy how delusional some people can become just because they don't like something.

>>717396786
I fall to see how a font is relevant. Is it in the game?

Susie x Lancer is superior

>>717391193
Welcome to Don town
I forgot what I named my vessel

>>717397718
Are you talking about me? I like Gaster and all but I don't see him being important. Is there any proof he's the one that helped you make the vessel?

>>717396453
>Beating the fight that the game said is by all means unwinnable isn't defying fate
Sure man

>>717396919
>Fuck… you distorted view and now the glowing parts look like spamton’s glasses and the obscured part below his nose
I just thought it looked a bit like homestar runner

>>717397651
>typing "Gaster" in the name prompt triggers a restart
That's as hard of proof as you can get that he's involved somehow.

>>717397008
Hear me out. Veth X Male Vessel

>>717397651
Yeah, that Redd Herring we were talking to. He's the real force behind everything.

>>717391193
>mfw my save file when chapter one came out is DICK

>>717390270
wow he really is toby's self insert

The entire chapter 7 ending is just going to be Kris and Susie as Naruto and Sasuke with Kris being convinced to believe in friends instead some utlitarian idea of avoiding the prophecy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6EPMvIhtyA

>>717397821
Not in the prophecy, not fate

>>717398083
kek

>>717398143
hopefully toby adds something to kris that makes that not as blatant as it seems to be right now
it only takes away from kris as a character if he's toby's self insert, especially when the game keeps beating you over the head that kris isn't a self insert

>>717397807
Unless you're one of those guys who are so obtuse that you think using the exact same typing quirks, phrases, and iconography (goner_maker) that Gaster uses doesn't mean anything, yes that's proof.

What would make Susie so angry? I think the only thing that would make her that enraged is finding out lancer has to die

>>717398476
what about Kris manipulating Noelle?
Kris is such a horrible person

>>717398553
I don't think she would give a shit about that

>>717398553
>Kris is a horrible person

Get back in the garbage can/couch/cage/cupboard under the sink, cuck.

So what about the rook, bishop, and pawn?

I want Kris Holiday to kiss Asriel Dreemurr

>>717398597
I'm not the soul
It's all Kris

Kris signals to the player that pie is his favorite food despite that being kind obvious, but he doesn't correct us when we say that the green lizard is Asriel's favorite character.

>>717398672
Even more of a cuck opinion.

>>717398707
>not self inserting
>makes me a cuck
explain

>>717398697
Kris puts in a lot of effort to spare Asriel's dignity in front of the player.

The question wasn't "who was his favorite" it's, "who did he main".

And Tenna says that both answers are massively embarrassing in their own way.

>>717395784
Kris believers... not like this...

>>717398778
You're sitting in your little cuck chair watching a little evil boy walk around be evil.

You're fucking white-knuckling your chair arms, neck veins bulging, tears in your fucking eyes watching the rape scene with Noelle, SOBBING as your little dicklet gets hard and going, "Kris... He's so fucking HORRIBLE!!!" while you can't do anything but watch.

How is that not being a cuck.

>>717397001
Age difference and lesbian. It's a crack ship.
>>717398405
People love Kris both on and off /v/, Toby's self insert or no. There's enough depth to his character to empathize, be frustrated with him and want to know more.
>>717398476
Susie finding out Kris and Ralsei have been lying to her. Her finding out about the rape.

>>717385526
Why do they hate Ralsei?
Like, there's not really any other way to put it.
The only reason you'd say something like this is if you just don't like him as a character.
It's kinda gross to just erase a character and make it someone completely different.
What do they have against him?

>>717398313
Then why does Gaster care?

>>717398697
i kind of get the vibe that kris doesn't really like asriel, like he holds a grudge about him fucking off to college or something. if you pray for him in the church susie makes a comment about how half-assed your prayer was

>>717399085
Because it's fucking cool.

He sent you in to find a new ending, doesn't mean he doesn't want you to have fun.

>>717399067
Femboys are transphobic now, didn't you get the memo?

>>717399085
NTA but I think Gaster cares about us being determined enough to LOAD our SAVE many times to overcome to the most of our abilities an unbeatable enemy might be a good sign
a good sign... for what? for whatever Gaster is planning

>>717398672
>I'm not the soul
>It's all Kris

>>717385526
she's right
i hate ralsei even more now

>>717398672
>UHHH CHARA DID IT I DINDU NUFFIN
Fuck off, illiterate nigger

>>717399229
>takes the soul out to go eat pie, talk to people in private
>can't stop the soul from traumatizing this girl
priorities...

>>717399104
you know at first i thought this theory was retarded specifically because kris is said to talk with asriel constantly, which seemed like pretty solid proof
but... he could be just talking with his knight contact and saying it's asriel so no one suspects anything, kinda tracks with how we've been learning there's really nothing that is as it seems in hometown, besides maybe susie

>>717399067
They're everything they accuse mKris believers of being. They want to force everyone they possibly can to be like them, regardless of whether or not said person wants to.

>>717397723
It means Kris is a skeleton that has skin.

>>717391592
Why do people think Tenna and Spamton are like gay lovers or something? Tenna did something and fucked Spamton over he (spamton) literally says it nothing implies that they're bumming each other behind the boxers

>>717399426
they were partners (business partners)
lol xD

>>717399465
Noelle please stop posting.

It's me. I did it. All me. That Weird Dream where you froze an annoying blue bird. It was real. I was there. I told you to proceed. You did. We did. It was not a dream. It was real. There no else to blame but us.
There is nothing to regret. It's natural.

>>717399067
They are just cultists who are sincere honest to god proselytizing groomers.

>>717399553
I love this little gremlin. What are his favorite slurs?

>>717393145
I think its more in terms of the main narrative Chapter 1 you had silly billy Lancer shenanigans Chapter 2 was haha funny queen shenanigans chapter 3 was gut busting Tenna shenanigans
but Chapter 4 felt like all the haha funny whacky characters are gone now its serious business even Gerson isnt that super whacky and explosive

>>717364114
>a character that looks a guy in a sock themed onesie pajama keeps appearing in the Asriel themed Dark World
>his purpose is to get killed by nearly every character, including Duke Wallet and Duchess Drawer
>Nobody thinks much of it, since he appears again soon after
>During the climax of the fight to seal the fountain, Duke Wallet gets his arms chopped off by someone offscreen
>Everyone thinks it the Roaring Knight
>It's actually pic rel

>>717399426
Its a joke, anon. People are just making divorce jokes since the characters talk about each other like a divorced couple.

>>717385715
That jaw membrane stuff is gross

>>717399329
disprove this >>717399341

>>717391193
My name/also my name

>>717391193
Sneed

>>717399925
>Disprove it
He literally rips your faggot ass out of his chest right after to beat you up while all you can do is take it like a whipped nigga slave.

>>717400075
why didn't he rip it out before or bite the fuck out of that hand
But the soul can't be mean to susie for some reason
if kris wants to stop something he will do it, kris wanted to hurt noelle
or toby is a bad writer

>>717399085
Because it was FUCKIN COOL

>>717400213
So was playing Jevil's game but he didn't give a fuck about that.

>>717400274
Jevil is lame

WTF CHARA

>>717399948
>LV2 City Slicker

>>717380537
so you do expect mysteryman to explicitly appear on screen and go IT WAS ME ALL ALONG while bleeding from the eyes?

>>717400326
I CAN'T BELIEVE CHARA WOULD MAKE ME MAKE GASTER MAKE KRIS MAKE NOELLE DO THAT

>>717400326
I wonder if you pick all the wrong options you can get a worst ending where Kris kills himself. Sort of like Rory in YIIK but less cringe. It wouldn't be unprecedented for the genre but I don't know if Toby has the balls.

>>717392516
Women are the superior gender and are allowed special privileges

>>717400326
>confront the guy who forced you to rape your childhood friend
>he blurts out "NO YOU SEE IT WAS THIS ENTITY CALLED CHARA THAT MADE ME, MADE YOU DO IT"
>"WERE BOTH IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE OF THIS SKELETON GOD NAMED GASTER IN THE FIRST PLACE, LETS PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER"

>>717400326
The same part of you that enjoyed yesterday. Knowing you could say it wasn't really you.

>>717400406
Yes. Hyper realistic blood, game crash, the whole nine yards.

>>717374842
90% Chance of it being Friend, since he likes to show up near Secret Boss Locales
>So why does the knight-
Made of the same Material, not necessarily same source

>>717400562
Trust the plan

>>717400679
>he is the eggman
that's what he is
>he is the eggman
he got the master plan

>>717400326
Is it just bothering me or is it something people just don't talk about that a fairly major point of Undertale that the Player is mostly a non-entity occupying the space inbetween Frisk and Chara.
This directly contrasting with Deltarune where the player is far more of a concrete participant, at least, for now.
I don't know like after 10 years it's pretty annoying that the fairly major conclusion to the genocide route being Chara choosing Frisk as a successor vessel ans the Pacifist Route resolving with Frisk as their true self freeing the underground with only a little wink at the end with Asriel acknowledging you and saying
>Hey there's really no need to play again, but there's no secret ending for restarting from here either, if you reset you're REALLY resetting this time so don't bother if you're looking for secrets for replaying after this.

>>717380696
>Fallen Star
Is she a Fallen Star, though?
She seems pretty unfallen to me.

>>717394298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UzLaF7v-UU&
I Guess this is it? I can't confirm either way but see if you can hear it, I can't

>>717383545
The Knight is a Deceased Darkner with Kris's OG soul.

>>717400502
will we at least be able to kiss her before she an heroes?

>>717400720
The difference is that Frisk is a non-character for 99% of the game with no real agency besides being the avatar of the player, whereas Kris has clear actual motives and actions separate from it. Thus there's no difference between Frisk and Player until that final line.

>>717400946
Frisk has a pretty strong identity, Frisk is explicitly someone who'd reach the pacifist ending.
There's wiggle room for like, fighting and sparing, running, actually doing acts.
The game's pretty clear about this distinction.

>>717400720
Chara is just a stand-in for the player, no matter how hard autists want to call it the devil boogeyman of Undertale

>>717383545
I reckon its an Amalgamite, someone did some science and tried reviving Dess or some shit like that in the bunker. It changes into a bird at some point

>>717401042
>Frisk is explicitly someone who'd reach the pacifist ending
and you got that how? Because the monsters find out his name is Frisk at the end thats it?

>>717400720
>with only a little wink at the end with Asriel acknowledging you and saying
That's not a little wink, that's the statement of the core message of the game. You either reset because of your attachment to the game, and in time become just like Flowey, or you let go, do what he couldn't, and don't reset.

>>717401042
Frisk never really reacts to doing a Genocide run. Kris actively hates the SOUL on the weird route.

>>717400752
>horrible demonic creature that uses star attacks and apes Asirel’s and Chara’s visuals, aka both of the potential “fallen angel” characters from Unfertale
>associated with repeating sixes like Gaster
>summon’s “hell’s roar”
Seems so to me.

>>717401092
Look, I'm not saying you can't have your fanfiction where any number of random lines are attributed to a different character, and conveniently some fairly heavy backstory is jettisoned.
But ultimately that's fanfiction and unrelated, and it doesn't even functionally fit into a basic understanding of Undertale's story.

>>717401132
Yes and because Frisk is a weird freak who goes along with all the stupid shit monsters do.

Also
>Rematch with Undyne
>She tells you to hit her with as much strength as you can muster up
>Even if you hit the action command right she remarks on how much you held back and don't mean to harm her (meaning some second entity completely negated your attempt to harm her)

>>717401194
>undertale's message is that you should be wiling to move on from the works of fiction that you love rather than trying to wring every last bit of possible enjoyment out of them
>accidentally spawned a foaming-at-the-mouth fanbase that obsessed over it for almost a decade
yes i know that posting here means i'm no better than them

if a dark fountain was opened in a room with a picture of a guy in it would the Dark World create a clone of the guy or would the picture itself become a separate person?

>>717400197
In the mantle game its established that kris secretly likes being a bad boy

>>717383545
>a second human
It’s just Kris. Kris in mantlegame 3 defeats Susie/Ralsei/Tenna and then goes into the bunker, just like the Knight. They also have the same poses and use Chara imagery (red slashes and the smile for the Knight, and literally everything else for Kris).

Kris gave up their original soul to keep Dess alive, and then stole (You) from the Gonermaker to become the prophecy’s cage. Dess’s actual mind/soul are stuck in the limbo of the dark world.

>>717401194
You're over thinking it.
Yeah it's got a lot of flavor, but all Asriel's post game dialog is doing is just clarifying he isn't going to call you a silly head fartypants for beating the game twice over.

Is he /ourguy/?

>>717401132
>>717401229
>>717401318
Frisk is a blank slate character, and doing either pacifist or genocide will shape his actions over the course of the game. This is why Frisk can achieve high LOVE, but eventually becomes possessed by Chara who embodies LOVE. Conversely, you get a rematch against Undyne only after peacefully resolving every encounter with monsters, so Frisk embodies non-violence.
>>717401430
Probably a separate person who resembles the original but has a unique personality. Ralsei may be a plushie of Asriel, which would explain his name and appearance. Asriel is said to be a softy but not THAT much of a pushover.

>>717401497
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't related to that one guy that played the demo like 300 fucking times over to see if something funny would happen.
I think his name was Ed or Dan or something.

>>717401430
it can be whatever you want, for example look at one of the first replies about the cum sock, people saying it will be a creature/person but it can be a weapon too.

>>717397398
my special attack

>>717390548
>Who would be the main boss (if there can be one)?
The Angel Painting I made 10 years ago.
>Who would be the mini bosses?
The Display Can of the goofy Vegeta Energy drink I found
>Who would be the shop keeper(s)?
The Dragon Statue with a broken wing on top of my Gem Box
>Who would be the schizo boss?
The Unused Fallout 3 Collector's Edition Clock.
>Where would FRIEND show up?
Somewhere in the Jade Mountain range created from the Piece of Jade I have that's near to the clock

>>717399341
He wanted to traumatize Noelle physically and emotionally, but (You) the player traumatized her sexually. He was conflicted about it during and came to regret it after.

>>717401479
Also telling that the only other thing you control in mantlegame besides Kris is the black deer that becomes a Dreemurr when you enter the room. The same one that initially mimics digital Kris’s movements. The game is practically screaming that Kris and the knight are just the same guy, but some Kingdom Hearts shit where the body and the heart are separated.

>>717381817
sex with negro chara

>>717397807
>Typerfont 666
>The Theme playing being his theme and it literally being called ANOTHER HIM
>GONER_Maker
>Speech Pattern is the same
>Took over the Official Twitter using a blacked out six-letter name
Surely these are all unrelated to Gaster

Was Noelle molested by that mouse babysitter?

>>717401916
Everyone always forgets the first line
> * Ain't no better story than one told with sparkling eyes.
> * She ain't got no fear, that one. Doubt, irony, that's what poisons your story...
> * That, and too much predictability.
> * So, young man... What do you think happens next?

>>717401942
every single character in deltarune has been molested by every single other character in deltarune

>>717401942
>Dess is a rapist
>The mouse is a rapist
>Kris is a rapist
Are there any other rapists I should know about?

>>717397807
Don't listen to them CONFIRMchad. I will only believe in something if it's absolutely irrefutably stated in the game. If it's not CONFIRMED, it's headcanon.

>>717401293
>horrible demonic creature that uses star attacks and apes Asirel’s and Chara’s visuals, aka both of the potential “fallen angel” characters from Unfertale
Angels, but not Unfallen
>associated with repeating sixes like Gaster
Haven't seen this one yet, and I'm interested. Source?
>summon’s “hell’s roar”
Hell's roar could be more associated with our actual guy with Fallen Angel Connotations, Gaster. He does, after all, have a negative colour pallet to the Titans + The Knight.

>>717402091
Sans committed statutory rape since Toriel could not consent.
>>717402128
Gaster is in room_666 in Undertale.

>>717402091
Kris is not a rapist, (You) and Noelle are.

>>717400502
>at the festival with Susie
>"Man this is boring. Just stab me or something"
>Prompt to stab appears
>Keep pressing it while Kris tries to resist until "Stab Susie" is swapped by "Stab Self"
>Kris impales himself on his big knife right through the heart, and your SOUL breaks
>instead of a game over, you see Noelle, Toriel, Asgore and Susie in the hospital lobby getting told that Kris is in a very delicate condition
>Noelle enters the room, finds Kris on the bed looking all sickly
>Noelle rambles a bit until you get the opportunity to say your own piece
>I'm still here, Kris.
>For the first time, you see Kris's eyes. He looks shocked, sheds a single tear, and then lowers his head
>He flatlines
>Next scene is at the funeral.

>>717402091
Meow

>>717402164
>Gaster is in Room 666
Gaster also isn't the knight.

>>717400197
Kris actively struggles in an attempt to get Noelle to shut up until you assert yourself

>>717402216
KEK

>>717402180
10/10 GOTY

>>717400502
>your knife wielding silent protagonist can kill themselves because of your choices
Ahem.

>noelle likes being scared and is secretly an adrenaline junky
>kris constantly scared her or freaked her out while growing up
>something happened to dess that caused them to grow apart
>noelle's interest in susie is just her coping for her missing sister
Why do people ship Susie and Noelle when any of Noelle's romantic interest in Susie is surface level and not real love?
It's a much better story for a childhood romance to be torn apart and then put back together.

>>717402340
Well if you think about it, it doesn't really matter who Noelle loves in the end. She's just a horny retard who wants Susie to rape her and immediately tries to make out with Kris when he's nice to her once.

>>717402289
>kino game with a hit/miss majority of the game
>cut out all of it saving years of time, minimal effort art, chapterly release it
>story already blueprinted out, just change it around a bit
Toby is a fucking genius. My only gripe is that I didn't think of it first.

>>717402340
Kris sunk his own ship by not kissing the fucking girl in the weird route.

>>717402279
>Not calling it "FRIEND inside Dess."

>>717402216
I'm outta here.

>>717402510
The censors would kill me, kid. I'm not giving those buckos any mo' excuses to cancel my cowboy show.

>>717402279
me and my big human dick behind dess

>>717401308
nta. You and Chara are seperate entities in-universe, but in the meta narrative it is clear that Chara is supposed to represent our feeling and desires. Fuck, he literally says so to really hammer in the point.

>>717402487
The one grain of truth in the "Toby is a plagiarist" claims is that Toby takes a ton of inspiration from other things he likes, something that he's never hidden (and in fact talks about at length; if you've ever read the artbook there's something on practically every other page where he's like "I took this idea from Brandish" or "This was inspired by off". He straight up says that "Yeah the whole reason I gave Toriel horns was because without them she was just a Mimaga."

>>717402487
This shit still floors me
>havent talked to your childhood friend in years upon years
>the one instance of you hanging out with her recently, she thinks its a dream, and it was horrible the entire time for her
>she has a nightmare of it even
>"n-noelle um berdly is gonna be ok and sorry for being weird haha... *takes thorn out of your finger* *runs off*"
>this gets her INCREDIBLY wet and she was going to kiss you for hours while another guest was over

>>717403318
)

>>717403621
Some girls are into autists.

>>717403621
>ME AND KRIS AS KIDS? I GUESS IT WAS FORCED LMAO. WHAT A FUCKING WEIRDO, NO HE CANT FLIRT FOR SHIT LOLOL I DIDNT LIKE THIS WEIRD ASS HUMAN NIGGA AT ALL
>mumbles something in a weak voice, literally like 10 words and "dont tell anyone because someone might hear"
>immediately plan to fuck his brains out the next day
kris won. or would've if he didnt pussy out, forcing *Me to step in

>>717403621
In an alternate timeline, Kris actually does nut up and fuck Noelle

>>717404325
thanks bro