Thread 717453308

>No story mode. Forced to play hero slop
>Marvel rivals released before it and it's better in every way
>Nerfed customization compared to the beta
It deserved to fail. Controlling the mechs was fun tho

>>717453308 (OP)
Did they really try to bank themselves into grabbing Armored Core 6 audience into a live service slop?

>>717453308 (OP)
the game lacks content. all remotely good costumes are behind paywall too

I blame the UI; it looks extremely cashshopy
I know they need to trick people into paying, but jeez should have make it more subtle

>>717453450
>Story mode
Literally nobody cares about that, it's multiplayer first. Just say you suck dick and are low ranked so we can move on.

I coomed to my pilot's fat ass and jiggle physics. It was a good game and worth the time I spent.

>>717453308 (OP)
If it was actually PVP I would have kept playing it
But even at peak player base most lobbies were just bots.

I played it on Xbox and it looked and played like garbage. Very cheap.

Good art, bad gameplay ideas. I played the last demo long enough that I knew I didn't want to play any further.
However-
>thegamer

>>717453450
>No story mode
This, literally nobody cares about PvPslop

>>717453308 (OP)
deserved for adding gay-ass anticheat

>>717453308 (OP)
Poor balance decisions and the MTX was really in your face. Even if the game was entirely not P2W players can still feel when they're being aggressively pushed to buy stuff.

>>717453308 (OP)
Add a PvE/co-op mode and people will flock back. Easy.

>>717453450
FPBP
Anyone who cares about multiplayer in this day and age age, where every single lobby is filled with thirdwolders and wallhacking Chinamen, is part of the two aforementioned groups.

Wait for the PS5 release chud...

>Sex sells
yes

>>717453450
Yeah but tits should overcome all of that just like a good game will flop due to woke.
Logically a bad game should sell off anti woke

>>717455492
Sex only sells as gravy. If your product is shit it will still sell poorly.

Lacks content
People felt like they got bait and switched from beta to release when all the cosmetic options were locked behind the shop

>>717453308 (OP)
I honestly stopped playing right after I noticed it was just pvp

>>717453308 (OP)
The issue with sex sells is that it does indeed sell but all chuds care about is the sex and nothing else. Everyone else wants to have like an actual relationship. In many ways, chuds have the same phallic thought process as many of the thugs they claim to hate. They are just too weak willed to be gangsters

>>717453590
People only bought Armored Core 6 because it was made by From Software and people were still high on the Elden Ring honeymoon so they went "I see logo I buy", not because people have anything resembling interest on mecha.
Both From and Bamco know it and that's why they decided to make more Souls with a multiplayer flavor rather than making new mecha games.

Those developers making mecha games because they thought they would become a trend just played themselves.

>>717453308 (OP)
1st beta was nearly perfectly balanced but then the 2nd one fucked it super hard seemingly to pigeonhole mechs into very specific roles.

>>717453308 (OP)
it's what modern vidya has become - watch streamers and maybe play whatever they're playing for a brief period. most games lose like 80% of their players after the first week or month

>>717453308 (OP)
it does
i got me to try the game
sex sells but doesnt keep

>>717453308 (OP)
>Beta came at the perfect time when people were starving for a simple fun game with good multiplayer action
>Final release came at a time when the market has multiple good online games competing for attention again
They should've changed plans when the first beta was a huge success and just kept running with it

>>717453308 (OP)
Korean devs are fucking retarded.
Most of them seems to think that their market is still 2000's korea.

>>717453308 (OP)
The gameplay is fun, but the monetization ($45 premium skins lol) is horrible, and so is the bloated PvPvE mode. I had a lot of fun just playing the 6v6 mode when I could actually get good matches, but the matchmaking was also sketchy and it will sneak bots into your games

>>717453308 (OP)
shame, i got to top 100 in NA too

>>717456718
it's chinese retard

>>717453308 (OP)
PVP only (Mashmak isn't real) killed it, aside from the usual ups and downs of the balancing. However, a dedicated coop mode would've kept a healthy baseline of players during balance memes. All games like this need a campaign or coop, could NOT imagine playing Armored Core if it were only PVP all the time.

>f2p
>loaded with macrotransactions
>probably shitton of chinese
Let me guess, it has kernel level 'anticheat' too?

FOTM is basically a success these days. It's extremely rare that any game becomes a lasting hit and most of the time it's because kids can't play anything else. It doesn't matter how perfect a game is, people will play 10 hours and then move onto something else.

>heroshooter
that's negative points
>extraction shooter
that's negative points
>microtransactions
that's negative points
the sexo couldn't save it

>>717456350
Fuck off, ignorant zoomzoom.

>>717453308 (OP)
>>717457197
>okay, characters look good
>check out the gameplay
>BANG WOOSH BOOM
>LIGHT TRAILS AND MOTION BLUR
>PARTICLE EFFECTS AND EXPLOSIONS
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO 'SEE WHAT'S GOING ON'?!?!?!?!

>>717454156
most of the banners don't even try to sell you anything

it's a good game, it just doesn't have enough content and needs lootbox rewards for 6v6
maybe they'll make fixes and it'll come back with a consistent playerbase, maybe not
mecha just isn't a popular genre so it'll be hard when you don't have the fromsoft logo

>>717453308 (OP)
>coomer GAAS slop
I love mechs but im never touching that shit.

I looke dup teh game and apparently it died because they couldnt balance, tried to put a crazy anticheat that blocked many users

>>717458407
>needs lootbox rewards for 6v6
Actually false
The 6v6 mode does not have any way to influence player stats or power, thats only the shitty extraction game mode.

it's mecha
kids don't care about mecha nowadays
anything else is simply cope
even armored core, coming out right after ER (30 million), with all the fromslop momentum in the world, barely made it to 3 million

Sex actually made it sell though, without the sex it would've made even worse numbers

>>717453450
>Marvel rivals released before it and it's better in every way
gameplay just doesn't matter any more huh

>>717460009
it was a shit game with mildly decent gameplay that could have been worth it if it's entire progression system wasn't garbage and they made it a 10v10 or 12v12 or something along those lines, and balanced it properly so they could drop the retarded hero shooter trend of one per team.

>>717453308 (OP)
i believe that the power fantasy of controlling a mech can never be achieved in a competitive multiplayer game
edf did it right

>get game steam deck verified
>block linux otherwise for some retard reason
>double down on it any time this is pointed out
Fuck em.

>>717461246
need some rope, linuxsister?

>>717460009
I love mecha
But it is very niche and does not sell
I think a few people get fooled by standouts like Eva, or Gundam which found success in the 80s scifi boom off the back of star wars, for mecha itself being the draw.

>>717454298
>>717454963
Which one is it?

>>717463545
>Which one is it?
Nobody cares about story mode. The only people who ever ask for single player content in primarily multiplayer games are complete shitters who can't compete with other players. Wanting a story mode is basically admitting that you're dogshit at the game.

>pve vegans
there's always like 2 entire people in any thread who are only there to complain that X game is pvp and not a single player story game
play any of the multiple single player mecha games released in the last couple years instead of complaining about the one pvp mecha game

>>717463737
What reason, aside from laziness or stupidity, could there be not to have both?

>>717464578
Adding features is a zero sum game. Dev time and resources spent adding a shitty single player mode is necessarily time and resources not spent on multiplayer. I'm playing this game for fast paced mech combat, which I get from the multiplayer mode. I don't need some bullshit "story" to explain why the robots are fighting, and I don't need bots to play against when I can hop online and play against real people

>>717453308 (OP)
Sex improves a product. It can not, however, save a bad one.

>>717457197
player dropoff is normal, and most players are on console, this means nothing as Steam isn't the only way to play. They're still making plenty of money from the looks of it.

Singleplayer > multiplayer

>>717465008
>and I don't need bots to play against
Too bad, the devs think otherwise. Even a month ago on release most matches were filled with bots

>>717465008
Yeah but only you and 7% of people apparently feel that way. And since no one is playing the game it will have a shorter life span and not get as many updates or additions. You are only arguing for worse games for no real reason.

>>717465540
more people are playing than if it were a single player game released a month ago

I never tried it, the coomer bait isn't going to make me play a pvp mech game.

I mean it when I say that the children yearn for the fortnite battle pass.
Mecha Break doesn't have a typical battle pass.
This means people were always going to lose interest eventually.

>>717465540
>Yeah but only you and 7% of people apparently feel that way.
98% of people think that you're a retarded faggot who pulls bullshit statistics out of your ass.
>And since no one is playing the game it will have a shorter life span and not get as many updates or additions. You are only arguing for worse games for no real reason.
There are several reasons why people have stopped playing even aside from the very typical steep drop-off that these games typically see post release (see Marvel Rivals). And, like those games, the number of people playing could improve after a few patches to iron out some of the problems that the game has.

Game is a hero shooter with a mecha skin. I have my issues with AC6 but it feels better to play than Mecha Break. I feel like the devs would go harder into bullshit mechanics but needed to lower the bar for more engagement

>>717453308 (OP)
>Sex sells
yes it does. but to have legs, the game needs to be good too.
>bots
>mashmak
funny how those 2 things literally killed the game.

>>717457197
I don't have any skin in the game on this one but why does anyone think Steam is where the majority of players are and where you have to figure out if the game is successful or not? It completely ignores the much bigger console side of things. Even the disaster known as Concord showed way more people bought it on console (25k) in the few days it was alive than ever played on PC (2500 I think it was for the open beta?).

You regularly see people bringing up Marvel Rival's Steam numbers as if sitting at 150k average just on Steam is a bad thing when there's still boatloads on console you don't know the numbers of at all. Doesn't Genshin Impact make an absurd amount of money from the Playstation side?

>>717465668
I agree. My whole argument was to have both. So I dunno why you said this.

>>717465865
I was just quoting the percentage gave in the OP picture. Don't know this game, or care. It just always strikes me as a weird take when people screech and scream to have less. This is the same way RTS games went out, with all the same reasoning and excuses.

Mecha Break feels fine to play, but the rewards are horrendous for a PVP exclusive game.
If your gameplay isn't on par with Quake 3 then it simply cannot survive on its PVP experience alone, it needs unlockable rewards.
And it took since launch for me to unlock the bar being Free to Play, just to find out that the bar fucking sucks, the poledancing is awkward and lame, and now I've spent all of my mecha bucks on it. In the process of trying to unlock the bar, I received no additional rewards save for the free unlock outfit for 7 days of logins like a fuckin gacha game.

>>717466151
>From the playstation side
Genshin just announced EOS for PS4.

>>717453308 (OP)
It has the problem that most of these games do, it takes too long to get in and out of a match. You're sitting in menus more than you're actually playing the game.
It's subconsciously makes players lose interest.

>>717466232
>It just always strikes me as a weird take when people screech and scream to have less.
I'm not, faggot. Re-read my post
>Adding features is a zero sum game. Dev time and resources spent adding a shitty single player mode is necessarily time and resources not spent on multiplayer.
I'm in this for the multiplayer. If anything, adding a story mode that I'm not interested in WOULD RESULT IN "LESS" for me since I don't care about single player content in a game like this

This must be how woke people feel when some random ass game they barely even gives as shit does poorly and then a bunch of fucktards come in to rub some random failure in your face as if you're supposed to care.

>>717466102
You have a point with bots, but nobody is forcing you to play mashmak. Just fucking ignore it.

>>717454298
>>717453450

It would help at least a little. The main question is whether it's worth the development time and resources. And that would largely depend on the quality.

>>717466606
>Nobody is forcing you to play mashmak
Tragically nobody is playing mashmak at all.
As apparently the one dude on earth that enjoyed it, it broke my heart when my fucking matchmaking timer hit 30 minutes and I realized that I was probably not going to get to play it ever again.

Sex does sell, but it's not the only thing that does. Gameplay is king, and the gameplay here is lacking.

>>717466151
>I don't have skin in the game but won't people PLEASE care about playstation, we have more players than PC
Retarded snoytripnigger

Yeah it's a rather almost indie PVP only game in the mecha niche. Never had a shot honestly.

>>717466316
Because it runs like garbage there. It's 30 FPS with major drops, I don't think Natlan is even a solid 30, you need an SSD or it takes 5+ seconds just to get through menus, and so on. The fact it stayed alive for even Natlan is insane because they had to restructure how they do things internally which they themselves stated.

>>717466767
Playstation, Xbox, and Switch. I am speaking of consoles as a whole. That's why I pointed out Marvel Rivals because people act like there's not hundreds of thousands on PS5 and Xbox playing it.

>>717466927
For being so niche and being a live service game it really needed to butter up audiences and have really good rewards to keep people coming back.
Instead they decided to be Chinese. Tragic error! Many such cases!

>Add the new pilot characters
>They are expensive and time limited to cause fomo
>Half the game is mashmak
>No one wants to play mashmak because extraction shooters fucking suck
>And it's an extraction based on hero shooter characters so everyone plays aquilla and stellaris and picking other characters is asking to lose
>Other half of the game is a 6v6 hero shooter
>Can't switch character mid match in ranked
>Can't see other teams composition while picking your own
>So teams just steam roll each other based on who picked the more meta composition
>Nothing to work towards after you complete the season battlepass
>Seasons are going to be 3 months long
>No new content for 2 months
>Nothing to do after getting all the steam achievements
Sex does sell but you still have to release a finished game. This game has the most basic design level problems

Anyone with half a brain called it.
They made a shitty PVP hero shooter, then decided it needed to be a PVP extraction shooter (both genres that are already saturated and dominated by other IPs that do the same thing but better), then reduced the one thing that people actually talked about in the beta (the customization), and the entire time the devs were ignoring feedback telling them that what the game actually needed was a PVE mode and to tone down the greed with their microtransactions.
Its no fucking surprise that most people downloaded it, looked at their characters butt for five minutes, played a single match, and then quit playing entirely.
The devs needed to not just chase the current trend, and then once they sorted out what genre they wanted the game to be they needed to decide whether it was gonna focus on being a gooner game or a mech game. Both are fine, but you need to focus. Because the gooners aren't going to stay around for pilots that are barely seen during actual gameplay, and the mecha fans would rather the devs focus on customization for the robots.
But hey, that is feedback. And the devs made it clear from the very first closed beta that they weren't going to actually listen to the people playing said beta. So this is a problem of their own making.

>>717467094
I don't know, I'm not sure there was anything they could have done to prevent this. This isn't a concept that's going to have any legs. They could have certainly done better.

>>717453308 (OP)
sex sells, but once the gooning is done, you have to have something else to keep them busy during their refractory period

>>717453450
>No story mode

Which is insane because they were talking about it having a full story campaign last year and there was a small taste of it in the old betas.

>>717453308 (OP)
Exactly as predicted. It's a garbage Overwatch clone with extremely greedy monetization. Anybody who thought this trash would be a success was likely just a Chinese marketer.

>Game dies as soon as f2p players are able to unlock the bar and see how bad the poledancing animations are
hmm

>>717453308 (OP)
There's only room for two or three hero shooters, at best in a market that comes out with a new one constantly. I bet that color puke trash Fragpunk isn't doing well ether.

>>717453308 (OP)
Pretty sure there's this exact headline for every single F2P game that's still kicking around

>>717457197
Huge update in a couple of hours. Will either save the game or kill it.
https://youtu.be/nDdYnznKuRw?si=WEbOJoAfFebDsvL_

https://youtu.be/0rzOllhD0oU?si=_WzWHKuQoMIFNmnL

>>717453308 (OP)
Is this the only articles that game journalist makes these days?

>>717466606
>but nobody is forcing you to play mashmak. Just fucking ignore it.
that's not how it works unfortunately.
>caused the game to be delayed by over a year when the hype was at its peak
>all that dev effort could've been put into adding new mechs, maps, or content for the 6v6
>ingame rewards like paints and other mashmak farmable shit would've been in the regular mode instead if mashmak didn't exist
>splits up the playerbase which is a massively stupid decision, especially for a new untested ip
>forced an entire retarded p2w market place ecosystem around it
so unbelievably dumb. ceo literally tanked the game because of his pet project.

>>717467583
How much money will it cost a new player to play as 2B
This is the lesson tragically learned by fucking Multiversus
Adding fun crossover characters to your live service game doesn't mean shit if new players don't get to use the fun crossover shit.

>>717453308 (OP)
>f2p
miss me with that gay shit

>>717467583
>Nier crossover
God fucking damn it Yoko Taro, are you really going to make me play First Descendant?

>>717453308 (OP)
It was one of my most anticipated releases, and I absolutely loved when I played it in the very first beta, but it's severely kneecapped by the whole "playing with bots for X matches" first shit. I primarily play multiplayer games with my friends, and I loathed the idea of having to wait for each one to go through the introductory process. Hell, I hate going through that even just by myself: it's why I didn't go didn't play it again during the second beta (plus the fact that it'd be reset anyways), it's why I didn't play Splitgate 2, it's why I didn't play Strinova, it's why I didn't play Paladins, and so on and so forth.

Who the fuck are the introductory bot matches for? Are there really enough mindless troglodytes that don't care and love just """winninnng""" enough to fork over MTX dosh?

>>717467789
Yoko Taro died years ago

>>717453308 (OP)
Faggots will post their retarded bait takes and faggot sites are invested in it failing because it dares to have fanservice, but reality is that the mecha gameplay is fun, but unfortunately wrapped in some really baffling game design decisions.
>monetization so bad that even if you want to buy something the game will make you jump through hoops and leave you wondering "But why though???"
>"main" gamemode was supposed to be this huge map with bosses and what not, that would've been fun as co-op pve, but instead is a fucking extraction shooter encouraging the worst anti-gameplay possible
>customization nerfed from beta and is now locked behind a shitty weekly random shop, where you can't even properly plan out your character's appearance because you can't preview anything together that isn't in the shop that week (the variety for basic stuff like hairstyles seemed also sad)
I love my Serenith and it's satellite cannon, but man, mecha is already niche, no need to make the rest of the game as inaccessible as possible.

>>717467505
They tried to compete with Counter Strike and Valorant. Didn't go well.

>>717456429
>most games lose 80% of their players after the first month
That's how it's always been, you just didn't constantly check Steam charts and what not like you do now.
>muh streamers
Okay, unc. You don't even know how out of touch you are at this point.

>>717467914
It's a complete shame what that turned out to be. I was expecting high production value Friends vs Friends, not Counter-Strike rounds with wacky modifiers.

>>717457197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZtrFxdGUbs
Damn. I can't believe Warframe has 26 million concurrent players.

>>717467864
https://youtu.be/5jC6g7tG0OI
I can't believe Kamiya has been wearing Taro's hide all this time.

mecha break should do a 2b costume

>>717468562
2B outfit on Tricera.

>>717467451
That's what honestly also kinda got me, the entire fanservice side of the game isn't very good and pretty janky. The customization options could've been a huge selling point, if they wanted to sell them to you (artificial scarcity + weekly random shop) or they existed in the first place (how can it be that his game has so few outfits at release?)

>>717467876
>"main" gamemode was supposed to be this huge map with bosses and what not, that would've been fun as co-op pve, but instead is a fucking extraction shooter encouraging the worst anti-gameplay possible
when i read the interview with the ceo about how he wanted to make a casual mode and decided on mashmak, i felt it. i felt it in my soul that it was over. you have to be next level deluded to somehow equate extraction shit = casual fun. my man was blindly following a trend and decided to take a big fat shit on what would've been an otherwise decent game.

>>717468806
lol
if he wanted a casual mode he should have made a pve mode, it could have been some wave based shit, or escorting some object/npc, or whatever, basically anything that lets people live out their power fantasy without worrying about pvp balance or sweatiness
what a massive fumble

even the fucking gundam f2p shooter didn't do well enough and got EOS'd shortly after release

face it unless fromdrones keep buying AC simply because it's from, the genre doesn't do well.

gundam side story 0079 on the dreamcast is the best gundam game

>>717468458
Here's what Yoko Taro looks like without the mask if you didn't know.

>>717453308 (OP)
>Pvp
Is always shit

>>717457197
Stuff is so fucking overpriced
I just buy full indie games instead

>>717467195
Sad thing is, extraction shooters aren't even a current trend (anymore), it's something a few games tried to cash in on but most failed. It's niche and they put that shit into a mecha game, which is already niche.

>>717455425
thread
gooks and browns
nothing else
literally unplayable

AC6 has fun online discussion about lore and philosophy. People still argues about Zeon doing nothing to this day, in Gundam. Is there even a story in Mecha Break?

>>717468925
>https://insider-gaming.com/exclusive-interview-mecha-break-creator/
>At the beginning we only had 3v3 and 6v6, and could have gone into official launch last year. During a trip to Japan, I realized in the 3v3 and 6v6 matches that players tend not to communicate with each other. And every time they died they got really frustrated. That opens a space that the Japanese players really wanted: a PvE area where they can either solo it or play with a couple friends casually. That’s how we arrived at the decision to make Mashmak.
this guy, so fucking stupid.

>>717468996
Kamiya if he didn't sleep for a week

>>717453308 (OP)
it either needs to be the games focus, or an addition to an already good game.
mecha break was a mid arena fighter at best. the addition of ass isnt going to save the game.
plus you can only go so far with over designed korean dolls.

>>717468927
That gundam game was also hot garbage because it was just overwatch with gundam skins, like half the time it felt like you were just playing a regular sized dude in a robot suit. You're saying fromdrones, but reality is that each of these fucking games for some reason tried to simultaneously reinvent the wheel while also attempting to cash on the latest (years ago) multiplayer trend when the iron is ice cold, all the while Fromsoft just made a regular singleplayer mecha game (maybe they should give that a try at some point).

You know what I'd want? Something like Gundam Battle Alliance but with the actual fucking gundam, where I can play through the stories, but unfortunately they can only do weird bullshit, so it's either sd chibi trash, failing fotm pvp slop or nothing.

>>717469235
You're right, the writing of that game is absolutely horrendous and/or non-existent. Still, it's not like Gundam exactly heaved praise upon itself with its games when it comes to that, which why you have to take something from the anime as example.

>>717469275
that ending gave me whiplash
I don't understand how he recgonized the problem and then proceeded to run headlong into the same problem again

>>717453308 (OP)
>mecha game
>but a pvp hero shooter
doomed to fail

My friend became obsessed with this game after the first beta. He became a play tester and everything, he would talk about almost every day and after playing it can cannot understand why. The mecha combat is just okay but the game modes are all ass and the balance between the mechs themselves is pretty bad but that's commonplace for online games in general these days

sex appeal means fuck all if the game, novel, movie isn't good. sure you will have perverts support the game, but that is it. and actual perverts are a really minor percentage of humans in generals, even among nerds. it can only work if it is cheap as fuck to produced content for the game, like gacha where you only have to produce voice lines and a PNG

>>717467636
In addition they're trying to balance mechs for both 6v6 and Mashmak at the same time which is impossible and retarded

>>717453308 (OP)
>nigger asses
I told you it was going to flop, same fate as the first descendant who also has nigger asses
China doesn't like that shit, they should stop trying to cater to america

>>717465278
If you are an uncoordinated zoomie with anxiety maybe

>>717469275
>We wanted to make a game mode where people can play with their friends casually so we added a sweaty extraction shooter mode where everyone is encouraged to be a fucking rat and you lose all your shit when you get ganked

>pay2win multiplayer-only pvpgrinder
typical Korean cashgrabber. they would've made every character an obese black woman with debra wilson's face if the Wall Street hedgefunds had paid them to, like how they pay off western devs to make everything fat gay and ugly.

>>717471057
>pay2win
retard

>>717453308 (OP)
Why do retards keep making these PvP games? Look at how big Helldivers got before they fucked up with the PSN fiasco.

People want pve games.

>>717469275
aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha

WHAT A FUCKING RETARDED APE

>>717471057
I think you could have fit in a few more buzzwords honestly, B-

>>717470904
It's not like you lose much when you die, you keep all your mods unless you get executed. Yeah you lose the shitty stuff you looted like some purple crates or an auto beamcannon, but unless you managed to get a bunch of special gold crates and cargo rockets there isn't really anything worth losing.

Why does every coomer game flop? Do these people just shitpost on 4chan and never actually play the games they shill.

>>717471357
>you don't lose anything unless you picked up the only stuff worth playing the game mode for or get executed which will always happen

>>717471365
look in the general or archivedd general I don't know if it's still alive.

all it was is screens of their gooner pilots

>>717471513
it's really not
no more than any other game with character creators

>bug men defending their slop ITT
Fuck off Zhang, don't you have roaches to eat while you jerk off your small dick?

>>717471365
>Why does every coomer game flop?
it doesn't? go see the monthly gacha threads and the newest horse game.

>competitive trash
I don't understand, why do devs still believe people have the energy to spend on this shit?
why not make it a cool coop mecha game? I really liked looking at the game when I saw it at gamescom, and then I found out that it's fucking pvp and I completely lost all interest

same for marvel rivals mind you, I just don't have the energy or time to care about learning about metas and other retarded shit in a competitive environment, just lemme play with my mates and that's it

>>717471894
>horse game
You mean the one where the yakuza hunts you down if draw porn of the characters?

>>717471929
because some people like multiplayer games and not everything is about you and your tastes, shocking I know
because there's like no decent active mecha multiplayer game but plenty of singleplayer games
god I'll never understand the prissy faggots allergic to pvp who have to go into every game and make retarded
>>>>>PVP
posts

>>717471929
Because the PVE live service market segment is pretty much locked down. You're not taking Destiny's or Warframe's lunch.

>>717453308 (OP)
They forgot step 2: optimize for Steam Deck

>>717453308 (OP)
it didn't appeal to me as a mecha fan so i never bothered playing it. being overbearing gachaslop just turned me off from it immediately. and the gameplay didn't look very interesting either.
i know it's a very western thought, but i want to feel like i'm piloting a heavy piece of war machinery when i'm playing a mecha game.

>>717472430
>gacha
god the confidence with which /v/ will shit on something while knowing absolutely nothing about it is hilarious

>>717471958
that's the one. the horse coomer anime gacha game with regular anime girls as horses. but who knows. maybe i'm wrong and /v/ loves spamming it because of the skill based gameplay or storyline lol.

>>717472016
>some people like it!!
>98% of said games completely flop and are only ever relevant during their launch week
no, I think you're overestimating how many people want to play these games, the market is already saturated and anyone that wants to play these is already playing the 10yo titans like fortnite or league

>b-b-b-b-but pvp
don't care, nigger

>>717472130
and pvp live service isn't locked down?
what the fuck are you on about, do you even play video games?

here's the deal; competitive live service forces you to stay locked in
the second you stop playing, then it gets harder and harder to get back in, and every single time you take a break, the worse it gets, you can ask any league player or any fortnite player or apex or whatever the fuck you want, doesn't matter, the result is the same
and this is literally why MMOs are baby mode right now, because they need people to be able to get back in months down the line and not feel completely lost and so far behind and give up on playing (spending) more

pve live service means you can very easily convince people to come back in whenever new content is made, the pvp 'market' is just bait, it's just greedy retards that think they can get a piece of the pie when they clearly don't
now whether you understand my point or you come up with stupid cope like the anon above, doesn't really matter, the numbers prove me right, this game is already dead in the water even tho it had potential to be cool

>>717472130
>Destiny's or Warframe's lunch.
just warframe

>>717472535
>the numbers prove me right
not with the amount of wildly successful pvp games, no they don't. if you think this game would have been more successful as a singleplayer game you're a delusional nigger. the only halfway successful singleplayer mech series nowadays is armored core

>>717472535
another pve vegan who can't just play one of the existing pve mecha games and has to go into every thread about a videogame you don't like and tell everyone about how you only play pve games

>>717453308 (OP)
They turned the discord to phone # verification only, which instantly killed the discord and all discussion.

They refused to force role queue in ranked.

The refused to prevent premade stomping.

They refused to implement mech switch in matches.

They refused to allow map/mode blacklisting (everyone hates tdm).

They tried to force people to play / be victimized by the system they designed, and people decided they had enough.

Honestly, if this was a normal PvP game centered around TDM and other simple modes, no bots and with menus that aren't massively confusing, I'd play it more. I just can't be bothered to play against braindead bots, it's no fun

>>717472676
>single player
you didn't even read my original post, consider not posting on this board ever again, brownie

>>717472682
>existing pve mecha game
such as?
mechwarrior? this fucking janky trash? how about you get bent?

>>717453308 (OP)
>make small chest bottom heavy bitch
>goon
>uninstall
my job here is done

>>717472512
all mtx shit is gachaslop to me, paying 50 bucks upfront might as well be the same thing as paying 40 bucks for rolls to get a cosmetic.
it's no different in my mind.

>>717472737
>everyone complains about bots in the betas
>devs refuse to take them out
do chink devs just love bots or something? rivals has the same problem
>>717472783
my point stands whether you're talking about singeplayer or co-op. dipshit zoomer arguing semantics over here

>>717453450
pretty much this. the PvP space is shrinking. PvE games are where it's at right now unless you're an established franchise like CS or CoD.

>>717472913
>do chink devs just love bots or something?
chink gamers will quit any pvp game if they don't have a positive win rate, regardless of how shitty they are

naraka bladepoint was the same

So friendslop is the only way to go these days if you want to make a profit?

>>717472913
>coop is singleplayer!! it's the same thing!! it's just semantics!!
I refuse to believe this is a real post
but your game is dead either way, and I'll be waiting for a real mecha game to play with my bros

>>717473034
yes anon, whether it was a co-op pve game or singleplayer it would have flopped worse as they tend to do (unless it's AC), which is the point
did you flunk out of school or something? how is your reading comprehension this fucking bad? third worlder?

>>717473020
friendslop is how you get a bunch of streamers to play your game and nobody else

>>717467673
>How much money will it cost a new player to play as 2B
like 10-15 bucks? that's the usual price of a skin

I remember the exact moment I quit this game.

I was in general and we had a decent team comp with a locked lumi as our healer. Some other guy was fiddling around with his mech or something and hadn't locked yet.

At the very last second the lumi unlocked and switched to falcon, leaving us without heals.

As I was dropping in I decided I had enough, wasn't having fun being victimized by retarded little psychopaths, and just alt+f4'd and uninstalled.

Role queue was a no brainer but these bugtard chinks couldn't figure it out.

>>717453308 (OP)
Chink slop is doomed to fail.

>>717470068
The games don't need to. The anime did the story already, the games supply the gameplay. You can talk about the anime's story while you play the game.

>>717456350
>People only bought Armored Core 6 because it was made by From Software
90% of the reason anything sells is faith in the creators. This is literally just how marketing and brand recognition works.

And everyone loved it and it was really fun and now there's a bunch of clones in development, so I am a very happy man.

>>717472913
bots > eSports zoomers with super aim assist imo

>>717473290
I just wont play a game with class roles so strictly required that it even needs a role queue. Turns the game into a job and everyone screams at each other for not doing their labor correctly and I'd really rather die.

The first tests balance where everyone was just mostly fighting like combat classes was the best the game had.

Seems like everyone is trying to come up with big brain reasons the game is failing when the truth is its just not very good?

>>717473764
main gameplay is good but everything else is kind of ass which tips it back over into not very good category
when I'm not playing bots or the shitty extraction mode I have fun

>>717473764
the game itself is fine actually
it's just low on content and doesn't have a good progression / reward system

>>717472676
>the only halfway successful singleplayer mech series nowadays is armored core
Well it'd be a real change of pace if anyone else was fucking making them besides HGI, and they're floundering for obvious reasons. So that's one very successful series and one not so and those are the only two. I will wait for HG3.

>mecha break at 10k daily peak
LITERALLY DEAD
>uma musume at 30k daily peak
LITERALLY THE HOTTEST GAME RIGHT NOW

I'm tired of noticing their tactics

>>717473910
there was also gundam breaker recently, and daemon X machina (though I guess it's debatable whether or not the sequel is a mech game), plus all the older mecha pve games
meanwhile the last mech pvp game was gundam evo and that shit is long dead

>>717474023
uma musume has had 40k daily peak since release and it doesn't feel organic in the slightest, ALL games always have a dropoff within the first week but not here, literally never seen this happen before.

>>717474023
one is a mobile game that's not just on steam, and the other is a steam game, though

>>717473020
pvp is popular as ever. it's just a super competitive space where games either make it big or die quickly.

Daemon X Machina: Titanic Scion at least looks really fun. I just want a fun PvE game, PvP can be a goof mode. PvP overwatch shit just isn't what this genre needed

>>717453308 (OP)
good. fuck them for putting bots in ranked.

>>717457465
Nah he's right. I bought AC6, beat it, thought it sucked, and will never play AC again. I have it a chance because of Fromsoft prestige, I don't give a fuck about mecha shit.

>>717474368
The important thing is that you bought it, thank you for funding my franchise. Please feel free to do it again for all the other games I like.

>>717453450
yes

>>717474368
absolute buffoon, a walking strawman, kys my man

>>717473764
>fun gameplay
>ranked has bots
>server choice only effects region, meaning you have no idea if you're going to get 20ms or 500+ms until after you select a character and load into a game.

>>717453308 (OP)
yea bro if it had ugly blacks it would have sold much more

>>717474368
average ac6 player

>>717473648
I forgot heavy metal 3 got announced. Looking forward to it

>>717475723
>metal
Gear, dont know what I was smoking

>>717475723
>>717475765
You got me excited for Heavy Metal 3. Then I remembered the current state of western animation; looks fucking awful, or outsourced to Koreans or Taiwanese.

>>717473764
>casual matchmaking doesn't give rewards
Main reason I quit, played for a good week or so and got to grand master or diamond or some shit. Not a fan of ranked, always gives me a headache. By the time they added rewards to casual, I was burnt out and didn't care.

>>717473648
Give me ALL of your good AC6 clone mechs
And Ace Combat too

whats up with journos shilling their shit articles

>>717453308 (OP)
Loved playing as Falcon and shooting everyone down but my gaymur laptop couldn't run it above potato settings so I only played da beta

imagine if their shitty extraction mode was just a normal coop mode
how did they fuck up this hard?

>>717453308 (OP)
>Chinese astroturf fails
Many such cases

>>717476072
The big ones to keep an eye on are omega phenex, lavrock, and armed frame. Adjacent but interesting mech games gets you diesel knights, awoken, and beta decay. There's loads others but a lot of them are very early. I should make a list sometime of everything.
Not as knowledgable about ace combat indies but effy looks neat.
Heavy Gear coming back is enough to convince me this is looking to be a positive era for mech games. I mean it could've happened now for any reason, but that's a really positive event.

>>717453308 (OP)
I see kernel level bullshit.
I skip.
Simple as.

>>717477145
I'm looking forward to DxM2. Yeah the first one was lukewarm as hell but Armored Core+Monster Hunter is something that deserves to be iterated on.

>>717478130
I mean if we can tack a resurgence of cool power armor games onto mecha, I'll take that too. How long has it been since what, section 8 I guess?

>>717478708
There was Anthem lmao.

>>717453308 (OP)
All they needed to do was keep the pay to not grind model they were planing to go with. That's it. Instead they made FOUR currencies, a real money auction house, made the easiest to get currency expire so you could not save up, and tied everything to the retarded extraction mode that had pay to win AND pay to not lose mechanics.

All I wanted was a mission / objective based pvp game. PvPvE is almost always shit. Mechabreak makes me so fucking mad because the 6v6 mode was so much fun and it was obvious they cared about the balance willing to change whole abilities if they did not quiet work right.

>>717472549
Destiny fans coping hard huh? Warframe will never die. Even if it should.

>>717453308 (OP)
>could play fine during the beta
>suddenly the game wont stop stuttering when its out of beta.

What the fuck happened ?

>lock customization stuff further after the beta
>Unreasonable nerfs to mech like stego
>50$ pilot
>no PVE mash is pvp at the end
>Bots in rank
>reward progress is minuscule
but hey at least there's pole dancing

>>717455582
But Mecabreak is not antiwoke. The fanservice is actually pretty tame compared to where the FTP market is heading.

>>717460504
its so funny to me these guys saw produces mechas aka they can just be shat out a factory line and they where like yeak lets limit to one mecha per team but not whole match cuz ...
basically you play some time and realize the game died a thousand cuts that leave the picture whole hella whack and fuck that booster loading sequence? why not load inside cockpit and when everyone hits 100% teh cam zoom out while you mech flys out? like they lack vision jeezus fuck

>>717469235
>Is there even a story in Mecha Break?
There's not-coral taking over the earth and people split into generic factions with a UN type organisation you belong to. Moon also has 2 factions, one is not important the other is not-zeon who threatens to release not-coral and gas humanity because ?
One NPC in the cafeteria says one faction turns themselves into cyborgs, the other builts sky cities above the not-coral clouds and the third builds bunkers.
That's, as far as I know, the entire lore presented by the game and 90% of it is in the tutorial mission most people skip. They don't even have anything on their site. Maybe they changed this, I haven't checked since the game launched, but it's pathetic. Even fucking overwatch on release had more lore and world building than this

they really need to do something about the discord squads, being in a team of randos against a fully coordinated team FUCKING SUCKS holy shit is it fucking bad

>>717454298
your game is dying and you're still trying to gatekeep sweaty ass pvp
ok bud have fun i guess

>>717473648
God I really hope HG3 isn't shit. The devs being no-names doesn't help. But honestly I'll take a mediocre experience like MW5 if it means I can pilot a Gear again.

>>717460009
>>717461816
Gundam is literally a billion dollar franchise right now. Right at this moment it's at an all time sales peak. You niggas are addicted to suffering.

>>717474163
>uma musume has had 40k daily peak since release and it doesn't feel organic in the slightest, ALL games always have a dropoff within the first week but not here, literally never seen this happen before.
Uma had its lunch eaten during its launch week by Persona 5 X (which came out at the same time). It only got on its legs (lol) later about two weeks after.

>>717481992
>>717474163
Strongly believe that there's no point in comparing gacha numbers with anything else. The whales make the bulk of the money, not the regular fans, and half the community never even plays the game. They just like the cute fanart or memes or whatever.

>>717453308 (OP)
posts like these noting the player loss mean nothing to a game meant to be sold once.

They bought the game and can no longer refund? that's a win for the developers.

>>717453450
I give zero shits about multiplayer. Literally non, I'm willing to pay money for customization, but not if multiplayer is involved.

Is it within the rules of 4chan for me to point out that THEGAMER's claim of 93% player loss is....wrong?
https://steambase.io/games/mecha-break/steam-charts
https://steamdb.info/app/2452280/charts/
Like, are niggas even "tryin'" to make a convincing lie?
The total was either 132,816, or 132,678. Either way, currently having 5,969 ain't no god damn 93% drop.
>>717453308 (OP), stop sucking massive dick.

>I was expecting hundreds to 1k left
>almost 11k peak for a mecha pvp
Journo nigger

Amazing gameplay but the retards filtered all the casuals that would have bought cosmetics
I don't mind the bots because I have gorillion hours of practice against Battlefront 2 bots

>>717453308 (OP)
The game is pretty fucking shit, thank god.

>>717453308 (OP)
>game dies before I can afford to upgrade my shitbox PC to play it as I'm a poorfag with poor choices
man.

>>717466241
I've been playing since launch and I've been able to buy everything that doesn't require the Matrix pass.

>>717454345
This fucker

>>717453308 (OP)
>forced to play against bots every match
>extremely limited customization
>everything cosmetic behind paywall
>no story mode
>no pvp cause every lobby is full of bots
>no manual aiming
>no social hub
>everything is extremely predatory, fomo, auctions, currency etc.
>extremely bad UI
>no fucking loli preset
>no mech customization

>>717480931
>No name devs
>UE5
I wish the the best, but, well...

>>717485010
Might suck is better than no game forever.

>>717485010
Yeah I'm pretty skeptical myself. UE is not a good sign. Not that I expect a built from the ground up engine and it's the better alternative to Unity. At least they're promising a single player experience but that's likely just from how much Assault burned to the ground. I really want to know what they mean by "Action RPG" Is it a Bethesda Open World style? MechWarrior Mercenaries style? Trying to adapt the tabletop 4e?

>>717453308 (OP)

The PvEvP mode is trash & p2w

3v3 is dead

The game doesn't feature placement matches. So you essentially have to climb your way from the bottom to the top. And because all the good players already bypassed the shitter ranks day 1. The people who decided to try the game late are forever stuck in Gold/Plat because that's the highest the drooling retards could reach. Essentially putting you in this games version of elo hell.

They saw this coming that's why there is bot in pvp since day 1 lol

>>717453308 (OP)
I don't know what it was, jut playing it didn't feel rewarding at all.
I didn't care about different colors for the mech or dumb rewards from the extraction mode that had no bearings on the other modes.
All their dev time also went into fucking character customization instead doing anything cool with the mechas. It's like those lockers in splatoon 3

>Invasive DRM
>Mtx out of the ass
>Battle pases even in the fucking beta
It deserved to fail. The only thing that's a shame is that all of these assets and programmed mechanics will be lost. This game would be better as a private server hosted by a bunch of dudes where everything is free and you just jump in to make robots punch and shoot one another.

>>717485890
There's more to videogame success than not putting a shitskin in every frame, troonie.

welkin killed the game
only people who play(ed) the game would know this

The three things that a multiplayer game needs to be successfull:

>Cool/fun designs
>Consistent updates
>A monetary system that doesn't rape your fucking wallet

as far I'm concerned Mecha break failed at all three.

>>717453308 (OP)
I am glad this shit is crashing. Zoomers may be annoying but I like how there are many of them not so willing to take the shit that older gens in the past have. Its about time there is push back against the retarded amounts of monetization in this industry. I guarantee that is the primary reason its been abandoned.

>>717486005
WELKIN MVP

>>717485965
I'm sorry Mecha Break flopped. Well not really, because I told you so.

Play Cosmic Break, guys.

maybe the game is just bad outside of what sex appeal could do for it?
Sex sells but it can't save everything.

>>717486124
I just wanted a new cool mecha game...

>>717486062
>how dare they make a free game where you have to pay for hats

>Have a PvPvE looter-shooter extraction mode
>Have a good amount of generic mecha designs, a wide range of weapons, the capacity to swap collected field weapons around as you like (to the point where one specific combination is uniformly overpowered to the point of people quitting just because they keep running into it), good control in aerial and land combat, field enemies, minibosses, field bosses, instanced areas with superbosses and challenges, etc.

>Somehow all of this and you don't have the idea to simply scrap your shitty ranked hero shooter mode and just make the entire game Mashmak, but rather than the mechs you use that are hard-coded designs, you instead allow players to custom build their own mecha based on parts they allocate from the looting process, building closer and closer to their ideal designs, and with their parts being capable of being damaged or stolen by others if they lose battles in the field, and with your super-tuned ace customs sometimes not being worth fielding because scavenger junkbots can still potentially run away with a full build of broken parts if they get a lucky snipe

I don't know how you can run a studio and not just get this as the first reflex. Big bouncing asses and tiddies are a bonus, but that should have been the bottommost priority.

>>717486241
They are selling a character that is like 40-50 bucks.

>Mecha break is a flop
>Snowbreak is almost dead
Death to Seaslug.

>>717486263
>>Somehow all of this and you don't have the idea to simply scrap your shitty ranked hero shooter mode and just make the entire game Mashmak
most people want to play 6v6
extraction is a side mode that's hard to balance

>>717486241
This but unironically. TF2 was the first step towards this downfall.

>>717486313
so don't buy it?

>>717486241
>>717486352
F2P is the biggest scam. Would you rather spend nothing and get the most barebones stripped down game imaginable or spend nearly $100 as what is becoming standard but at least you get most if not all the game? Keeping in mind that the F2P model will have disgusting monetization like what anon here says >>717486313

>>717486406
Just saying, it's pretty brutal with the pricing for a f2p game.

>>717453450
>No story mode. Forced to play hero slop
To be fair, this has not stopped its peers like Overwatch and Marvel Rivals, so I don't think anyone should consider a lack of story mode as some sort of demerit.

>>717454298
I would play it if there's a story mode

>>717453308 (OP)
They really needed a pve mode. Just ask the destiny community how their game lasted so long. It sure wasn't the abandoned pvp mode, or even worse gambit lmao.

Sex sells like an orgasm. After the orgasm fades, there needs to be a reason to stick around

>>717486540
>Would you rather spend nothing and get the most barebones stripped down game imaginable or spend nearly $100 as what is becoming standard but at least you get most if not all the game?
but that's not even true
you get the same game for free as if you spend money. If you want cosmetics it's not too hard to make money by selling extraction loot

>>717481072
Gundams look cool and at least going back to the anime I watched in the 90's on Toonami it wasn't the offensive kind of anime either with the bug eyed chibi waifu pandering crap. It was masculine, they used these laser or plasma looking melee weapons, they used guns, they had cool vibrant colors, it was cool. So I am not surprised Gundam is a billion dollar franchise. Most other mecha I don't think truly gets it in regards to mass appeal. They try to be way too technical and sacrifice the fun part of what this genre can be. Or in Mecha Break's case it would rather gouge you of all your money.

Honestly just give me a game like ZOE with some aspects of AC. I just want to hack away or shoot at shit with a cool looking mech I can build. No thanks to the slow Mechwarrior mechs either. That falls into the super nerdy/technical aspect that is too niche that I described.

Literally all you need to do is make a shooter where you pick your frame, pick your internals, select 4 hardpoint weapon/utilities, and then fight either in a 12v12 or more over a large map with basic offense/defense objectives like holding ground. Then slap on a sidemode where you instead fight waves of enemies.

Literally all you need. That idea's free, you're welcome, shoot anyone who tells you to make an extraction shooter.

Was looking forward to this and the furry game and both are fucking dying... it's not fair

>>717483897
>Is it within the rules of 4chan for me to point out that THEGAMER's claim of 93% player loss is....wrong?
>https://steambase.io/games/mecha-break/steam-charts
>https://steamdb.info/app/2452280/charts/
>Like, are niggas even "tryin'" to make a convincing lie?
>The total was either 132,816, or 132,678. Either way, currently having 5,969 ain't no god damn 93% drop.
> >>717453308 (OP) (OP), stop sucking massive dick.
Niggas are still in here responding to the OP like a bunch of fuckin' idiots as if I didn't type this.
Faggotry is real.

>>717486936
>Just make MWO but with jap mechs instead of chicken walkers
Doesn't gundam have something like that but is only sorta relevant in japan?

>>717453308 (OP)
OP is a fucking retard.
Here's a hint imbecile:
Sex can boost a good game. A lot.
Sex can't save a shitty game from being a shitty game.
The sooner you realize this the sooner you'll stop posting idiotic threads and embarrass yourself.

>cool mecha game
>look inside
>pvp slop
Every time. I seriously don't understand why the fuck are mechs intrinsically related to esports garbage these days. For SP we have what, AC6? Fucking Daemon X Machina? Jank shit like Strike Suit Zero? Ass.

This game was fantastic in the first open beta. Mechs died quickly, healing was near useless, it was pure skill filled with frantic dogfights.

The second beta fucked up the game, by massively increasing health pools which massively buffed heavies, which were boring to fight, snipers, which were cancer, and healers, which turned the game into deathball slop. The biggest issue was the mech Welkin, who was buffed to be a "do everything" mech that could take objectives for free if he got there with his cage, could turn every fight into a 1v1/2v1 to kill high priority targets, and had a shield that made him immune to all damage half the time.

When the full release dropped, Welkin was buffed again to absurd levels, and the response from the devs when people complained about Welkin and Aquila (the sniper) was "lol you guys don't know what you want, WE know what you want", and everyone stopped playing the game because it wasn't fun at higher ranks. The game also did the same chink scam of putting you in bot lobbies for the first 10 hours to make you think you were good at the game, when in reality you were just farming bots. When the bot lobbies ended at grand master (really bronze rank), you got matched with randoms against full stack teams and lost every match.

>>717487157
>132k to 6k
That's actually even worse

>>717453308 (OP)
>>717457197
>coomers piss and shit their pants demanding games that appeal to them
>end up not playing them when they release, or play them for 1 day before dropping them
Many such cases.

>>717487274
>>pvp slop
>Every time.
when was the last time?

>>717487481
they're too addicted to their daily gacha rituals to play real games

>>717487274
Dolls Nest, bro. It's high level Japjank tho ain't gonna lie to ya.

>>717487481
>ignoring the fact that the game is an unbalanced mess riddled with predatory microtransactions
Is sex your only deflection these days?

>>717487207
MWO is a victim of being reliant on a settings lore, and then also being run by mudcore types who can't handle the fun bits of the same lore. So you get slow as fuck mechs with the same loadouts of 6 lasers. There's not really anything fun to work with there. MWO doesn't even have melee.

If in contrast you had faster mechs that didn't move like they were disabled, and could mount shields or repair equipement or melee weapons or added thrusters, that'd be cool. An actual spread of equipment rather than "which gun do you want to boat on your gay slow robot?"

Now that I've said it out loud I've realized I've partly just reinvented Border Break. God I miss Border Break.

>>717453308 (OP)
If your argument against sex selling is this, how do you explain all the zero-effort games known as gacha that do?

>>717487709
Having good story and characters?
This game doesn't even sell sexy mechas to you, it's just the chara creator that shouldn't even be the main focus of the game

>>717453308 (OP)
What's the point of coom designs if you can't even see them most the time?
It was just used as bait for a (in my opinion) shitty pvp game, the result shouldn't be surprising at all.

>>717453308 (OP)
The hardest part about making competitive hero shooter is havig to constantly listen to crybabies whining about balance change. Mechafans are easy to please as long as it looks cool, not overly designed trash and plays better than anything BAMCO released for the past 20 years you should easily hit multimedia gold mine. Fucking Kwock and Seaslug i swear.

>>717453308 (OP)
The mech autism crown isn't that big, it's all focused on mechwarrior and the like while anime mecha relies on characters, storyline and brand recognition/designs, everybody knows what a Gundam is by now, it's iconic. You can't make a ton of money off of robots, you have to attach the human element through likeable characters.

They should have invested into writing a story based game because then people get invested into the characters first, and then the mechs are extensions of those characters. Again, the robot autism crowd is very very very small, Armored Core 6 didn't sell that good either and that one has no anime asses or breasts either. 3 million copies is good for a mecha game but unimpressive otherwise.

This is a misunderstanding of what the audience that exists wants. They should go and study Gundam SEED/Destiny or w/e Gundam shows are popular, barring witch from mercury and Iron blooded orphans, those were nuGundam shows which don't have actual mecha audience as a target.

Also the monetization wasn't that well planned out, almost forgot to mention that one. Having to pay 50$ for an unique character+mech combo is a wee bit much, you have to ease the players in by creating appealing characters first and for that you need to have a solid writing team.

>>717484781
The face of a guy who had a good fuck.

>>717488063
Nobody gives a fuck about the mechs, dude.

The problem with the game was simple, it wasn't fun to play.

>>717488379
and a bad fuck but after getting your dick crushed by a muscle mommy, one would have to appreciate a BBW.

>>717488419
The gameplay is actually the best part about it.

thread full of excuses conveniently ignoring gacha being garbage fully sold on sex appeal and making billions

>>717474318
>open world
>changes the mechs to powered armours
>another marvelous localisation
I've lost all hope for it.

>>717488452
If that were fucking true it wouldn’t be a ghost town, retard. Good games don’t flop before the launch has settled.

>>717488452
No, it isn't. It's great at first, in the fake bot lobbies, but when you get to the actual game in general rank and beyond, it's complete and utter cancer. It's just overwatch with mechs.

>>717488538
>>changes the mechs to powered armours
That's my biggest problem with it.
Don't know why they would do that

>>717486587
Yeah, this board is retarded AND low skilled AND proud of it, very curious phenomenon

>>717488571
>>717488578
I meant the feeling of playing those mechs.
The controls are very good.
That it is a hero shooter and the multiple bot rounds is also my problem

>>717472817
You don't pay to get rolls for cosmetics either. Unless you mean the Mashmak supply crates. Are games like Path of Exile gachaslop because it has an auction house?

>>717487274
Metal Bringer?

>>717488578
>>717488571
no, it's fun to play
the issue is the progression system and limited maps and gamemodes

>>717487274
>>cool mecha game
>>look inside
>>pvp slop
this has happened... what, twice? maybe 3 times?
god PVE SLOP ONLY pussies are so fucking obnoxious, every thread

>>717453308 (OP)
Let's see what happened
>Abandon Co-op during development and reuse the assets to create extraction mode
>Developers figure out a "clever" monetization angle
>Extraction mode drops rare loot you can sell for real money in the cash shop, and they take a small cut
>Clearly trying to do the CSGO thing
>Extraction mode is also P2W as fuck, so players have an incentive to splurge on upgrades to get the rate drops to sell
>To encourage players with minor rewards, all paint drops that would come from the 6v6 mode, are now exclusively extraction loot
>This leaves 6v6 with absolutely nothing except for unlockable profile badges
>Battle Pass consists half of items you can only use in the extraction mode, again to encourage playing it and joining the rat race
>This means that if you hate extraction gameplay you're actively discouraged from buying the battle pass
>But if you don't, your progression is capped by limiting the number of missions you can complete, which is your main source of progression and makes the BP feel P2W even outside of the extraction mode
And to top it all off, the extraction mode is fucking terrible there's no reason to ever play it over another game for any reason other than trying to grind the cash shop currency.
The kicker? Nobody buys the fucking things so you'll never make any money regardless. The developers put the cart before the horse. The game is fucked because they keep insisting on the extraction mode being the de facto centerpiece when they already had a fun, relatively balanced 6v6 mode they clearly spent more time and effort on. But they managed to kill both.

>>717454298
>Literally nobody cares about that, it's multiplayer first
Singleplayers games have never sold more.

Mecha break is simply discovering that the multiplayer market is completely saturated and unless you have good NPC as interesting as players, your game won't last long.

>>717453308 (OP)
>>Sex sells-ACK
It does sell. You've got porn games entirely about plugsuit wearing mecha pilot, of course the 3D ones are less porn and more gameplay.

>>717489067
>no, it's fun to play
Post your rank, shitter. The game is GARBAGE.

>>717470810
zoomers love multiplayerslop

>>717453308 (OP)
this game wants to appeal to casual players yet it's designed to shoo away average players in everyway possible. from UI to gameplay.

the balance for PVP is so horrible that it became worse after the beta
welkin, a bruiser melee foccused mech that has shit tons of utility that counter every other mech in the game that doesnt have invisibility. The dev responded by "emmm, we will ADD ANOTHER MECH WITH SIMILAR ROLE", basically doubling the existing issue. Absolute trash.
The balance for the extraction mode is even worse. Everyone picks mechs that are extremely overpowered in this mode and that's it. the game became "your team must pick this mech to play"

>>717456350
>not because people have anything resembling interest on mecha.
Fuck you, people dig giant robot.
Everyone was hoping Armored Core would finally reach the master race PC platform. It literally saved mecha.

>>717453450
Bots ruined it, like Naraka

>>717489401
A lot of people just bought it because it was from the elden ring guys

>boring pvpve extraction slop with shit rewards
>6v6 is heavy mech supremacy metawhoring
>AI gen'd voice acting
a simple co-op mode would've been more palatable but alas devs are dumb chinkoids
characters look good tho and some skins were nice in beta but I never bothered with the full release because it's the same shit
a co-op mode with events would've been cool like eva collab where you have custom event mechas but no flying ability with mechas being stuck on ground using umbilical cables with limited range trying to fight an angel boss or something (or have some models with s2 engine)
things like that would've pulled more interest towards the game

>>717453308 (OP)
If there was sex in the game it wouldn't have failed

>>717489110
The problem is balance. Cash shop, rounds not giving enough worthless meta-progression, unlocks, all of these are minor issues that can be fixed by tweaking a few values.

The problem is that the devs are incompetent retards who cannot understand the state of gameplay for most users. They're incapable of playing their own game at bronze rank, and they're unwilling to listen to the playerbase about how to fix it, because they think that listening to metafags makes your game shit, which it might. But not listening to anyone makes your game awful, because you're balancing it around your wood league dev/playtesters who cannot understand what the game is like for actual players who aren't farming bots.

There was a good point I saw a few minutes ago where the devs literally said that they saw people weren't talking much in PvP so they spent a year adding Mashmak as a "casual" option. Mashmak is nothing but sweaty farmers waiting at extraction points with full mod loadouts to take everything from solo retards who spend 20 minutes farming the map only to get killed at the exit. They fundamentally do not understand their own game, and they don't even understand the basic human mentality.

>>717489513
>There was a good point I saw a few minutes ago where the devs literally said that they saw people weren't talking much in PvP so they spent a year adding Mashmak as a "casual" option.

I remember this.
They literally said that Mashmak was supposed to be "less stressful" than the 6v6 mode. Yeah I dunno nigga I'm not feeling particularly serene when I'm being hunted down by 3 all black niggas with railguns while I have a bag full of loot just trying to get out.

Also with regards to monetization, they have one good looking, sexy outfit in the game and that's literally the starting suit. Having 10 different ones of these ready to go would have had whales howling from minute 1.
But no we gotta have this weird rotation going on for Chinese dresses, construction overalls and whatever the fuck was in there.

>>717473648
Fuck off with you mecha sekiro, AC6 was a travesty and it wasn't fucking Armored Core in anything but a name.

>>717489850
>mecha sekiro
Why would you say this like it would sound bad? Those are both great games. I'd totally play a ninja mecha game.

>>717489513
I have encountered sweaty farmers waiting at extraction (possibly with full mod loadout, not that it tells you) exactly ONE time over 100 extreme solo mashmak games (solos can only play with solos unless you meant something else). It was two Narukamis, which are exactly the type of characters who would do that, and I murdered both of them. One of them being one of the top players for items extracted. Just brought in some random purple axe I found in the match. Maybe this is happening everywhere but solo extreme, but in my experience, players in Mashmak are just impatient retards who only seem dangerous because they fight even more retarded players, as they all crumble apart the second you shown a sign of intelligence in combating them. Admittedly, I guess that still makes you right about Mashmak, though, as retards will be the majority of players.

>>717489850
AC6 was fun, shut up

>>717489850
>It's less of an AC sekiro than AC4.

Why did it lose its entire playerbase you ask?
BECAUSE IT'S A LIVE SERVICE MULTIPLAYER GAME
Nobody plays one game forever, they play their fill and move on. A game that requires other people to function will eventually die, infinite exponential growth doesn't exist.

To keep people invested, you need rapid updates and massive changes that make it feel refreshing to both existing and new players alike, but it won't last forever.

>>717489401
this proves that mecha is niche
ac6 released right after elden ring and had a tiny fraction of the players

>>717490003
It's still the opposite of the intended mode. Mashmak was supposedly a response to players wanting something more casual, and so they added a sweatier mode with higher risk and more tension. I don't like playing extraction shooters, it feels awful when you're a minute away from the exit and praying that some cocksucker with max level equipment isn't camping it.

My point isn't that Mashmak is difficult, my point is that it's not at all what it was made in response to.

>>717490080
Plenty of live service MP games retain a playerbase. This game lost all of its players in a month or two, it's not that people got bored with it, it's that the balance was awful and unfun to play.

The problem was them adding fucking bots to the 6v6 PVP mode. I don't want to spend 15-30 minutes fighting against a full AI team when i specifically queued up for a fucking PvP match. I just gave up trying to play the game after I got 3 AI bot matches in a row back to back.

>>717490143
Everything has a tiny fraction of elden rings numbers, it comes free with being one of the highest selling games of the generation.

>>717488571
Its not a ghost town, you daft imbecile. Its just that the matchmaker is built in a way you can easily rank up and everyone is playing in top three tiers right now. They have to resort to bots for the new players because everyone is playing in top three tiers.

>>717453450
This, pretty much. Can't even buy parts of the shit you want for customization in the marketplace.

>>717490317
It's a ghost town, retard. The game is sub 10k players, and most of those are Chinese, so let's say there's 1.5k on EU and 3k on NA. And these aren't stable numbers, they're still losing players every day.

>>717453308 (OP)
it gets people in the door but it doesn't keep them there
get real nigga

>>717490530
You do realise that you can download the launcher outside of steam yeah?
And how the fuck did you decide that Chinese are playing on EU and NA? Dont you know they have their own servers?
In addition, I play on EU and the queue times are 2 minutes tops, no bots in matches - you can check that easily through Mechatracker site.
But you wouldnt know that, cause yorue not even playing the game.

>>717456350
Ac6 is more fun to replay than elden ring and my first ac is 6 after not hearing about the series since the 1st one I had a demo of on ps1

>>717490648
>You do realise that you can download the launcher outside of steam yeah?
You think there are tens of thousands of people using the standalone launcher? Yeah, you must be a chink.

>how the fuck did you decide that Chinese are playing on EU and NA?
I'm talking about the steam charts, retard. These numbers are for ALL servers, so I'm taking out the chink players and guessing that EU probably only has 1.5k still playing.

>cause yorue not even playing the game.
True, I quit it weeks ago when the first balance patch was "no we're not doing anything about Welkin, you're all wrong". Even back then, every game I played had the same players. Post your fucking rank, mine is >>717489217.

>>717486406
well yes, that's the point, no one bought it and no one played it
If you try to sell your game on sex, the sex needs to be free or cheap

>>717453308 (OP)
China fatigue

>>717490313
the big difference being that ac6 was actually made by fromsoft
ac6 released at the company's peak popularity and it sold well, but not any better than previous fromsoft games despite the massive increase in popularity.
And despite that, ac6's sales are 55% of all armored core sales ever. Which means that mecha is a pretty niche genre.

>>717489110
>>Extraction mode drops rare loot you can sell for real money in the cash shop, and they take a small cut
It sells for funny money. They don't have a cut because there's no making real money out of funny money. There's a "tax" on sold items to prevent players using the marketplace as a means of trade.

>choose your server region
>actually anywhere when you starts playing with your preferred region has the highest chance
>ping ~300ms
>ruins the gameplay
how can you fucked this badly

>>717490156
>it's not that people got bored with it, it's that the balance was awful and unfun to play.
AND the balance patch a week or so ago made it worse. It failed to address any of the issues players were having, didn't nerf the problem mechs outside of a slap on the wrist, but it did bizarrely fuck up one of the weakest mechs despite claiming the changes were "buffs". They're trying to push players away from ultraheavies and to play the melee meta the devs want, but the devs clearly don't understand how their own game works.

The lead dev in particular said the equivalent of "you think you do but you don't" and "players don't know what they want, I have a vision" when it came to the kit design and balance complaints.
This shit has no future until they throw the 6v6 shit to the wind and implement the 24v24 battle mode they teased.

>>717490985
24v24 seems like it'd be complete cancer with the current meta, if they understood game balance it'd be fantastic because they'd return to the low TTK first beta balance, but instead it'll just be heavies grouped up with 3 lumis healing them, vs another group of heavies on the next mountain ridge taking pot shots at them for 20 minutes, with snipers instantly taking out anyone in a medium or light who tries to cross no-mans land.

>>717490783
>He doesnt blindly agree with me
>Must be chink
You need to be over 18 to use this site. Heres my rank, got it yesterday.

>>717486314
Snowbreak has stable revenue. Only reason why they could develop Mecha break are Snowbreak coomers that bought skins

>>717465278
>frogposter
>the worst possible opinion imaginable

>>717491124
>21 hours in
Ah, you must not play much, probably only at peak times because you're working all day or something.

Don't worry, you'll get tired of it soon. I'm guessing you didn't play much of the betas either?

>>717490868
Game that's not elden ring or dark souls five sells high amounts but not generation defining, but enough that we're now suddenly getting a bunch of mecha games, and you want to stroke your clitty moaning that it's dead and we're all doomed.

Nigga just go watch gundam. It's selling crazy amounts. Mecha is cool, but it's cooler when people actually fucking make it lol

>>717491198
He's right though.
Maybe singleplayer with coop attached, but full on multiplayer with no singleplayer suck and can die anytime

>>717491087
Nah, with the current meta it'd just be 24 Aquilas instantly deleting the other team.

>>717480931
What game? It looks like mechwarrior 3 (my favourite in the series), but I know it isn't

>>717491209
Didnt play betas at all. Yours is even fucking lower, unless you blatantly lied about it being your rank.
I repeat, you need to be over 18 to post on this site.

>>717490878
The tax only exists to drain currency from the system, necessitating real money injections. Even if you never spend money on cash shop cosmetics the currency will eventually have to run out.

>>717491387
Heavy Gear 2, it's the prior one in the series. Was released the same year as MW3 along with Starsiege

>>717491420
Yes, I put 17 hours into the game because I quit it on the 9th of July, which is almost a month ago.

What's your fucking excuse for having a month on me, yet only putting 4 more hours in? You barely play the game.

Chinkslop fatigue. They're only good at making genshin clones or yet another offbrand souls game.

>>717491480
That is true, you thought more about it than I did.

>>717491087
The benefit of 24v24 is the player count makes it chaotic enough that poor balance can be somewhat mitigated by the sheer number, both teams running together in a big deathball. There would potentially be at least one of each mech on each team, so there won't be a case of bad matchups - any Narukamis and Aquilas will have some Falcons and Skyraiders hunting them down. More players to concentrate fire on any Luminaes and tearing down any heavy shields much faster.
Plus, several dead weight players in a 24v24 aren't as negatively impacting as a single dead weight player in a 6v6.

>>717491128
Mecha Break is going to need to make a Snowbreak play of its own to save itself, otherwise Snowbreak's stable money printer is going to be subsidizing this pet project.

>>717491498
Yeah, and I got that high by barely playing it. I couldve had a nice 69% winrate but nooo I just had to try the Stego out. What a shit mech holy fuck.
Its way too easy to climb the ranks right now, thats why everyone is leaving. They quickly reach General, like your stupid ass, and decide - yep thats it i've beaten the game, time to quit.
Or maybe they just get beaten by high skill players in high ranks and decide to quit like a bitch. Either way, the ranking system is dogwater and the sole reason people are leaving. Nothing else even stands close.

>>717490143
Everything is a niche.
Sport game is made of niche
RPG are made of niches
RTS are made of niches
FPS are made of niches

Of course ER outperformed AC6, it's a bestseller (and still a niche).

>>717490868
Armored Core 6 sold 3 millions games, that's far above the average and it doesn't get advertising like AAA slop do.

>>717491780
>There would potentially be at least one of each mech on each team, so there won't be a case of bad matchups - any Narukamis and Aquilas will have some Falcons and Skyraiders hunting them down
Multiple Falcons on each team effectively renders stealth for Narukami and Stellaris completely non-functional (never mind that Falcon's recent buff did that anyway)

>>717479815
I thought Corite was more like Tiberium

>>717491841
That's also at the time that literally everything else mainstream was flopping and dying from disinterest. The entire fucking industry is floundering and then AC6 just strolls along and sells well.

You normally don't succeed at all these days unless you're making a quirky $10 roguelite.

>>717491780
24v24 really depends on the map size. I imagine it'd be a much larger map, so each individual skirmish is only going to be a 6v6, or more commonly, a 6v1.

>>717491837
I hit general at launch when all the decent players were climbing, retard. I quit because the meta was awful and the game wasn't fun, maybe you haven't hit that point yet because all you're playing with are the dregs who somehow haven't hit 5500 more than a month after launch.

The ranking system is why people are quitting, but it's not because of the ranking system itself, aside from the awful cancer of 6 man stacks getting matched up against teams of 6 randoms because of retarded design. It's because the game isn't fun when played optimally. The healer/tank players aren't having any fun, only Welkin and Aquila are having fun, and occasionally Stellaris when he gets matched with a good W/A combo, the rest of the time he's fucking miserable.

>>717492134
>Welkin and Aquilla
Spoken like a true shitter that you are. In my games those mechs are getting focused all the fucking time, and I dont even play with stacks. No bloody clkue how people are still picking those, their existance in high ranks must be pure suffering. Imagine stomping bots all the way up to general only then to get absolutely bodied by experienced players. Fuck, no wonder people are leaving, this kind of dissonance is the worst.

>>717492387
I've got to ask, what do you play? You sound like a fucking clueless retard, Falcon or something?

>>717492535
Skyraider, Hurricane, Inferno, Panther very rarely because jank as fuck. Yours?

>>717492637
Damn, close. I only played Alysnes, if you want to see suffering you should try that some time.

>>717492709
Got buffed recently, now you actually have stamina do do shit. My advice - get more mechs to play, its more fun that way. Climbed my way up to Grandmaster using only SR, got bored out of my balls untill I picked Hurricane.

I love playing with bots so much bros!

>>717492709
I also only play Alysnes.
he is okay, and I enjoy it a lot.
however, you are going to be dependent on your team and will almost never be the anchor unless it's the key generation map where Alysnes is godly

>>717492864
I don't want to play any other mechs. Alysnes' stamina was an issue, but at higher ranks he just melts against his primary targets, which are heavies (half of which he can no longer damage), and he's worthless against who he used to be the primary counter for, Welkin, back before he got buffed to the moon with a melee proof shield.

I won't be coming back to the game without a significant re-balancing patch and a return to lower health pools, and I've got no interest in playing any of the other mechs.

>>717493228
>doesnt want to improve
>calls others retards

>>717493423
>doesnt want to improve
I know you're probably a big Overwatch fan and you want to fill the perfect role for your team's sake because you're a cuckold, but I play games to have fun. I played all the other mechs in the first 2 betas, and I picked the only one I liked. I'm not going to fill for the sake of the meta.

>hero shooter
>no one wants to play as the healer
Shouldn't have made it into a hero shooter then, if it's not even fun to play the healer

>>717486678
Very clever anon.

>>717493568
>brings up Overwatch
>brings up kekolding for some fuckign reason
Never played that shit, and never been a fan of the keks either. Get trolled bich nga.

>>717493645
Pinaka was fun in the beta when you could ignore healing completely and use him to insta-kill heavies with his slowly reloading shotgun, while shielding yourself so you could never die.

>>717453308 (OP)
I like hot women. I don't want to play as a woman though. I wat sexy women in my games that I can bang, or at least date.

>>717453308 (OP)
BRING IT TO THE PS5. I WILL PLAY IT.

>>717453308 (OP)
It felt as cheap and bad as these noname chink plastic models they went after.

>>717453308 (OP)
> another multiplayer only gookslop dies at birth

wow, how unusual.
I wonder how long it will take for the creators of shit to realize that no one is happy about competitive multiplayer with sweaty pigs?

>>717493819
You were lucky enough to match with sweaty pigs and not bots?

>>717493819
Stil alive, fuck you.

>>717493916
Happens when you get out of shitter-ranks.

>>717494084
I don't want to play however many hours of bot farm to play with chinese sweats. The game genuinely isn't worth it, and you still get bot matches at any level sometimes anyway.

>>717494084
In my experience playing with bots was harder, so many shitters in upper ranks like holy shit the amout of games I had where my teammates had a score around 4.1

>>717494145
Yeah it's a shit design and also doesn't teach the player anything meaningful so when he finally reaches an all-human team he's gonna suck massive dick.

>>717494170
Score means jack shit.
Sometimes you just get to eat shit all game because you picked X while opposing team has all the counters to X.
I've been as low as 2.7 lmao.

>Mecha BREAK
It's not a mecha game, it's a hero shooter with mechs instead of heroes. Also, it's freemium. I'm not touching a freemium game with a ten foot pole, cause I just know a freemium game is gonna be riddled with microtransactions to make up for the free cost of entry.

>The First Descendant
It's just porn. I'm not even one to disparage sexiness in vidya but what's the fucking gameplay? The story? Music? Anything that makes it more than just a twerking simulator? Even the threads here about it are just softcore porn dumps. I once asked what the gameplay was like in one such thread and was told to fuck off. So is it even a game? I never found the answer.

>>717494376
Shure, but the entire team except me (~7.2)? Like what the fuck were they doing the whole game?

>>717494437
I wouldn't know.
Maybe it was a payload map and you just sat your fat ass on the payload all game, which inflated your score.

>>717494405
>freemium
Picrelated, its for (You)

>>717453450
Wouldn't really care for a singleplayer story mode, the game doesn't feel at all tightly designed or varied enough for fun solo content. But some cooperative PvE missions would go a long way towards making it actually lastingly fun instead of hero shooter shit. Also a reduction in the scummy ass mtx grind

>>717494509
Ain't touching this, nigga.
Devs gotta make a living somehow, they don't work for nothing.

>>717453308 (OP)
>finally a mecha game
>its actually a hero shooter with mech skin
>bots bots bots
never trust the chinks again

grummzbros...
asmonbros...

we fucking LOST...

>>717494712
you literally can't buy any gameplay advantages with money
mech loadouts can't be customized
the meta OP mechs are the starter ones
also whats up with the 'hero shooter'
what IS a mecha game? Steel Battalion?

>>717453308 (OP)
>china is saving gamin-ACK!

>>717494972
Game is fun. Fix the dogwater MMR system and were golden.

>>717494405
I think The First Descendant is a fun looter shooter. You can just search videos online to see what it's like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH9LMSPZc2I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFGryafSxcI

^that last one isn't great video quality but is a nice chunk of uninterrupted gameplay.

>>717495017
Did they change anything with the gameplay since release? That shit was boring as hell to play

I wish I had the time to actually play this, it's really fun.

>>717453308 (OP)
>mechs
lol gay

>>717495087
I've only recently started playing it so I can't speak to how it's changed over time, but it sounds like it's just not for you.

I love when /v/ makes up reason why something failed, not even having played the game.
Messy UI, Bot matches, sweaty extraction mode, no campaign to get people invested in the world. The whole pilot customization is disconnected from the game. Most items/upgrades gained in Mashmak is only useful in Mashmak except things like color where you a kinda forced to play Mashmak for.

MB made a cardinal sin, they listened to people crying about monetization. Now people still cry about it, but they make a lot less money from it.

>>717467583
wait what the fuck happened to the first descendant
it's a F2P game how the fuck does it have such a bad playercount right now

I don't think it needs a story mode, but it should have some kind of PvE co-op mode, like maybe a wave shooter or something.
The nerfed customization and price of those cosmetics definitely left a sour taste in my mouth at launch. I still am playing and enjoying the game, personally, but it certainly was egregious that they removed customization options (such as custom eye colors) just to sell them in a randomly rotating shop every week.
Bots, bots and more bots. The fact it took until GM and General to escape most of the bots was awful.
I guess there was also that Ranked was the only way to do anything at launch, and casual was a literal nothing mode with no benefits until more recently.
I'm interested in the big battle mode they hinted at, as I think having more people on a map could help get rid of the "hero shooter-ness" of the current arena modes if they do it remotely decently.

>>717453308 (OP)
So it's just a PVP game? That's a huge mistake. This isn't the 2000s to mid-2010s where casual PVP is fun. We're in the land of sweatbags now. You need co-op missions or bust.

>>717495516
Because it's a shit game.
Make a thread to find out more, dumbass.

>>717495516
I don't think 7k on one platform is bad, and it'll probably have 20k+ tomorrow because of the update.

>>717453308 (OP)
the visuals are great it's the stupid masmek mode where all the good stuff is unlocked thats the problem!, the daily missions are ass, and convoluted. just follow rivals battle pass system and mission route. me just playing should be the priority of unlocking stuff.

>>717481072
has someone already forgotten about gundam evolution?

>>717495524
>it should have some kind of PvE co-op mode, like maybe a wave shooter
They could just use the mashmak map but you spawn into a stormed off section of the map. Then you just kill things like usual until a map boss spawns, who then drops a key for the nearby door. Then that could be a series of gauntlets, going from room to room until you end up at the gold tier boss. None of this being new assets.

>>717496032
Who hasn't? Bandai did. After they decided a direct overwatch clone (?) that half the world was geolocked out of (??) was a great Idea. Gundam's still a bajillion dollars a year franchise now, no matter how hard they try to fuck up their games.

>>717453308 (OP)
Not even sex can save mecha because its a manchild robot barbie genre

>>717495516
Because it has the same issue as mechabreak, it looks cool, but the gameplay is dogwater.

>>717453450
Pvp in mech game sucks ass thats why i don't like titanfall2 pvp but pve frontier mode was fun

>>717472924
Yea there's so many pvpslop in the market and so little pve

>>717467583
I hope the melee combat is good.

>>717456350
>People only bought Armored Core 6 because it was made by From Software
No shit retard

>>717496231
gameplay in MB is fun though

>>717461246
ProtonDB mentions it's working on some distros and proton configurations, it's just being being daft overall.

>>717453308 (OP)
They took a mecha break.

>>717494861
NTA but you sound like you're desperately trying to convince people to install the game, hope you can find a match, bro.

>>717453308 (OP)
Looks beautiful but unfortunately it's multiplayershit
could have made for a fantastic single player game, a shame

Here's a Falcon

god, seasun is so retarded

WHY NERF CUSTOMIZATION

even the extraction mode was retarded

>>717453308 (OP)
>Horrible MTX
>Horrible gameplay
>Bots in every match
>Retarded balance
>No true casual content
Why is it that these Chinese devs don't copy the Hoyoverse $5 monthly subscription model for MTX? It's actually genius and the only major contribution to game design

>>717456350
Fuck you, I've been playing Armored Core games before they made rollslop

>>717473020
If you want organic concurrent players you make a highly variable coop pve game and release 2-4 significant updates per year like Deep Rock Galactic used to. I mean those guys have fucked off for the past 2+ years making a shitty spinoff yet still DR stays within the top 100 daily active games on steam. It has bad customization, ugly characters, an upfront price tag etc etc but it has solid gameplay and lots of variety and none of the paid cosmetics go above $10. Imagine if these stupid fucking asian companies started by making a good game then also had cute customizable characters in a charming setting. Can we even get a quality copycat of Maplestory ffs? It's simply incompetence

>>717473020
i can't believe that PVE will outlive PVP wasn't the miracle of gen7-8 gaming the lowering latency of internet speeds which enabled multiplayer like cod, halo, battlefield, etc