The new executive order has a clause that explicitly bans financial processors from using "reputational risk" as a reason for denying services, which was the justification for the removals on Steam and other platforms.
Start whitepilling, gaming is saved.

arigato trump-kun

>processors
>reputation

lmao what the fuck

Holy fucking based Trump. Ledtoid spammers and their retarded 2025 narrative are btfo forever.

>>717616927 (OP)
Cool, now release the files.

Okay. Where are the banned porno tranny games? When are they coming back?

Trump is such a useful idiot to us.

>>717616927 (OP)
Based, I hope this shit means AI websites can start allowing loli again

>>717617495
The EO was just signed and companies have 180 days to comply.

So can I get my games back? Cuz they still ain't there

>>717617328
It's just a convenient excuse to let banks remove 'problematic' people/retailers without having to justify why. Legal CYA.

>>717617328
It's they way payment processors abuse shit.
>we didn't ban anything

They tried to shut down Trump using the same bullshit. He said he would do this.

>>717616927 (OP)
It doesn't

>>717617882
Read dude it's right there.

>>717617882
It does.
Sorry thirdieanon, you'll need a new angle.

Gaming isn't saved until we completely purge feminism and subsequently make the industry fear us enough to quit every shit practice or minimalism knowing what a bunch of perverted nerds are capable of.

Studios MUST be forcefully reverted to pre-2010 attitude or passion.

I have read about the card companies insisting games be removed because they're illegal, even though they obviously aren't, someone at the company just thinks they should be.
At least this administration is doing something good. Hopefully they follow through and don't fuck it up.
Really this should be legislation and not an executive order but it's a good start.
Also, I don't know how much this will affect the card companies' relations with companies outside the US. They may be able to continue harassing Japanese companies. Laws in Japan might need to compliment.

Steam will still be shit as long as Valve keep hiring Mary and it's eventual replacement

>>717616927 (OP)
Damn Trump is actually kinda based. Get fucked bankers

>>717617452
Don't care. I hope he has right wing death squads exterminate the jeets next. He can be a pedo as long as we win

>>717616927 (OP)
Does this mean bakers have to make gay cakes again?
Because if it doesn't there's a religious loophole.

>>717616927 (OP)
This alone is a drop in the bucket
Gaming is far from "saved"
But I don't expect any good to come of the industry in the future, foreseeable or not

>>717618636
I know they're close in terms of spelling, but bankers and bakers are two different things, anon.

>>717616927 (OP)
hooooooly based thank God Trump is saving gaming

>politicized or unlawful
it's literally a nothingburger

Its not about reputation risk, its about potential lawsuits by acting as a middle man in the transfer of illegal materials. For some reason some US states have extremely strict incest laws on the books where even drawn depictions of it are illegal. Also in some countries like Australia where if someone is flat chested, even if a real person over the age of 18, its illegal because it looks like it could be underage.

I don't see this changing anything and no politicians are gonna crash their carrier on a crusade ending anti porn laws.

>>717617452
Orange Man could burn the only existing copies of those files live and I would still worship him if he actually gets Mastercard/VISA/Paypal to stop this censorship.

>>717618895
This makes using "reputational risk" unlawful you retard, that's the whole point.

>>717618895
Third world retard doesn't know about the constitution.

>>717618757
Read the rest ESL-kun, I'm talking about Bakers because there was a massive case where Christians are allows them to discriminate and deny services based on religious grounds because some christfag bakers didn't want to make a cake for a gay couple.
Does this EO deal with that? Because if it doesn't, bankers just have to say it violates their religious freedom and they can keep going on business as usual.

Hopefully this continues to more than just games and lets stuff like patreon, fanbox and all that shit to go back to allow loli (or at least to not threaten r18+ artists in general, loli or not)

Now allow loli games. No one really gives a fuck-- it's fiction. Unleash the beast.

>>717616927 (OP)
They'll just say it's illegal due to some bullshit loophole, nothing will change

>>717618976
Why pretend you wouldn't lick the orange pedophiles boots regardless?

>>717619013
>Because if it doesn't, bankers just have to say it violates their religious freedom
Then they'd have to stop doing business with all other porn sites and objectionable content, so they'd have to stop working with onlyfans, pornhub, blacked, Netflix, Disney+, Hulu, all cable companies, etc. etc. because they all host content that would be considered objectionable if they tried to use this argument.

>>717618985
Child porn isn't political retard.

>>717619068
This. As long as NTR games are allowed, so can loli games. Only fair coomers have access to both.

>>717616927 (OP)
They'll just say the content is illegal due to some bullshit loophole, and that's why they're blocking it. Nothing will change

>>717618965
And in germany blue archive's PC version isn't yet legal so they simply don't sell it there, region locking based on legality was something steam has always done.
This entire situation was very specifically about reputational risk, that was the the expressed reason for why broad categories of content were suddenly removed from the entirety of steam and itch.

So do you think Barron was the one who pushed his dad to do this?

>>717619131
Then people will riot again because it's still bullshit and another law will be added.
You sound like one of those retarded SKGfags who believe not buying and complaining doesn't work.

>>717618636
No. The gay cake is different. You cannot deny selling cakes to gay people, but you cannot be forced to create specific cakes. Supreme Court affirmed this. The gays can have any cake they want, but they cannot force someone to decorate cakes with two men fucking each other.

Totally different scenario.

>>717617575
>my games
If you purchased any games, you'd have them still.

>>717618965
So just block it in those states, like many businesses already do.
Stop trying to pull these copes, the payment processors did this shit because they want control, it's that simple.

>>717619136
Because I don't care unless he actually puts an end to Gamergate 3.

That's nice but what about the epstein files?

>>717618624
Same. I want the content, polish and fanservice I remember back and I don't care how many retards have to literally die in the process from that same weaponized corruption by child rapists for it. Fuck justice.

>>717619160
Don't threaten me with a good time

>>717619374
What keeps happening at the Gamergate hotel? Is it another conspiracy about water?

Got to love the orange man bitchslapping the uppity credit card companies, good fucking riddance

>>717619160
That implies religion is rational and consistent though.

>>717619465
>What keeps happening at the Gamergate hotel?
5 guys and you're waifu

>>717619465
The women keep smearing shit on the walls and tearing out the carpet.

>start making porn games that tell the player to go vote
>game is now political
can't wait to start seeing people do this.

>>717619501
The law is pretty clear though, if you have a religious exception to something then it must apply to all instances of that thing, if you say your religion says you can't bake a gay cake you can't say it only applies to gay cakes made for blacks and not gay whites.
So if a payment processor dislikes letting some Japanese dev make money using their processing network because they made a game with a high schooler getting fucked, then they'd have to stop doing business with Warner Bros Discovery for having a show on their streaming service in which multiple high schoolers fuck and get fucked (Euphoria).

>>717619136
Not everyone is a burger. Internal matters don't interest me. VISA and Mastercard however are international tyrants.

>>717619270
I am ready to just get rid of elections and make Barron with the best AI the leader.

>>717616927 (OP)
Thank you, Mr. Trump

>>717619709
It doesn't even need to be political, if you read this section it's about reputational risk AND political content, it bans removing service for either of these reasons.

>>717619270
>autist
100%

>>717618965
Stpp lying.

>>717616927 (OP)
Thank you for saving porn games Mr. President.

>>717619270
>oldman nearly gets HoI4 banned with this retarded shit
>pulls some strings to keep the resident map painters from going nuclear
Kino

>>717619767
Nah, they just have to say they won't cover this specific thing, not an entire category. Like they are currently doing. You don't realize how holey and without teeth this order is.

Fuck Visa and fuck Mastercard, get bent lol

>>717620169
>holey
ESL, opinion discarded.

>>717616927 (OP)
HOLY FUCKING BASED

>>717620210
NTA, but that's correct usage, even if it's a goofy word to use.

>>717620187
>Holo the alcoholic wolf
Do you think this is acceptable wolf-like behavior?

how do eggsecutive orders work? could trump just write an order to ban 4chin, or force everyone to walk on their hands if he wanted to?

>>717619160
You do realise that plenty of pornsites already have problems with the payment providers?

>>717620345
They don’t. The courts just ignore them, and then trump just ignores the courts. The important thing is whoever writes the checks for the cops.

>>717620428
Yes, and this EO helps address that.

>>717616927 (OP)
uhhh bros.. reddit is saying this doesn't mean shit...

Has there been a reaction from Collective Shout? I wanna seen them lose their "collective shit" over this.

>>717619767
>The law is pretty clear though
That's not true of any law ever written. Also laws are not enforced as written, they're enforced as interpreted.
>if you have a religious exception to something then it must apply to all instances of that thing
Who is qualified to interpret and apply the Baker's theology? Not Himself? His priest? A priest heretical to his parish? A secular authority?
>if a payment processor dislikes letting some Japanese dev make money using their processing network because they made a game with a high schooler getting fucked, then they'd have to stop doing business with Warner Bros Discovery for having a show on their streaming service in which multiple high schoolers fuck and get fucked
You're delusional if you think America will side with Japan against Jewish sex-trafficking institutions.

>>717616927 (OP)
Why are you guys so fucking stupid

A BANK IS NOT THE SAME THING AS A PAYMENT PROCESSOR

Also this means is that Noam Shekelstein at Foreskin Eaters Credit Union can't deny your payment, but Visa and Master Card still can because THEY AREN'T BANKS

>>717620568
From Collective Shout to Collective Shart kek

>>717620345
The Executive Branch is in charge of law enforcement. The President, as the Chief Executive, can instruct the people in his department to prosecute (or not prosecute) others for certain reasons. Those being prosecuted can still seek legal recourse by taking it to the Supreme Court, but that can take up to 3 - 4 years.

More or less, the president can actually just do things until a court tells him to knock it off. That's what EOs are.

>>717620563
Reddit pedophiles are retarded and have terminal TDS. Its amazing the lengths they'll go to protect their fragile and false worldview.

>>717620282
At least we know MIGA is sending actual humans shills instead of bots if they're resorting to grammar nazism.

>>717620563
>Even the election tourists who come from reddit realize that it's Russ Vought who's responsible for all this censorship and he works directly for trump

>>717620345
As I understand it, it a "promise" that the relevant people in the cabinet, plus the relevant regulatory bodies will work on bringing things into compliance with the goal of the order.
In this case, financial institutions have like half a year to stop harassing legal purchases or political figures while use reputational damage as a shield.

This isn't over yet, gamers, I will destroy your Loli Rape Sim 3000: Torn Panties Edition or I will die trying.

>>717620594
Okay, so you're definitely a foreigner, so there's no point in having this conversation.

>>717620620
What do you think a credit card is, retard-kun? Magic money?

>>717620717
You lost.

>>717620620
READ NIGGA READ

>>717617495
It's been about 3 hours anon, on a Friday
Tranny porn games will be available by Christmas with your gran's gift money.

>>717620282
>assumes I'm participating in the argument
Every. Time.
You called ESL on correct English. You're a faggot. That's all I was establishing. I don't care about which member of 98 Degrees is the dreamiest or whatever the fuck you were arguing about, bitch boy.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/holey

>>717620827
We all lost, this problem was created by trump and now he's magically solving the problem he created.
And like a good goy, you don't care.

>>717616927 (OP)
We have to erase the Republican party and nuke Israel.

>>717620889
>this problem was created by trump
I fucking wish.
This shit has been going on since before Trump was ever elected.

>>717618624
>>717619419
>>717618976
This is why the right should be erased from the face of the earth.

>>717620717
>>717620563
Trump is actually well known for firing cabinet members who go against his wishes. He went through cabinet members like crazy in his first term.

Plus, Executive Orders don't go through the departments. They're top-down orders. VISA/Mastercard would most likely rather just abide by the EO than spend millions of dollars fighting it so they can continue to lose millions of dollars by not processing payments.

>>717617681
>>717617328
>>717619269
is there a known instance of these payment processors actually being (financially) negatively impacted by these "reputational risk" transactions? and if you know it please provide source
I actually really want to know their rationale, since they've objectively lied about it (whether or not they ban), and the rest of it is likely PR speak
unironically WHY would they want less money? WHY do they want the negative PR? WHY increase the likelihood of a financial competitor taking their place? WHY isn't a company taking advantage of the vacuum (either a company already existing since each member of this oligopoly/duopoly can easily substitute each others' services, or a potential future company)?

With the available information to me this doesn't make any sense from a purely capitalistic or power hungry standpoint. And saying they are simply doing it for control is retarded since they are clearly suffering from it at present/why the fuck would some corporate fat cat/shareholder care what (legal) chinese cartoons some customers buy

>>717620889
>Create a problem
>Sheep clap when they fix the problem (you created) when you backpedal on it
Amazing.

@717620991
Stop bait-posting faggot. You're not funny. Your (You)s will amount to nothing when this thread is deleted. You won't feel any better by getting argumentative responses. Just stop.

>all the seething room temp IQ leftoids itt
Love to see it

>>717618371
Its for both reasons.

>V/MC banned japanese services like DLSite, Fantia, Booth, Gumroad and such due to 'they could be associated with content the dont agree' (and this problem isnt solved until they correct this particular issue since that has been going for at least 1 full year, even before the collective shout deal).
>Collective Shout convinced V/MC to also ban videogame platforms like steam and itch from selling things that are allegedly on the same league as what the japanese services offered.

And personally i still doubt anything will be solved. The banking companies want to control all economy on the planet im sure they will try to fight back or ignore the order.

>>717621026
This problem goes further back than 2016.

>"Project 2025" is a Democrat hoax-ACK

>>717620978
>>717621001
Payment processors only started going after american companies after Russ Vought took power over them and he specifically wants to ban video games and porn and is on video stating how he'd do it, and it's exactly the justifications payment processors are using.
Trump also disavowed project 2025, but Russ Vought is one of the co founders of it and he's stacked his administration with other members. He only fires people who personally inconvenience him and I doubt having the credit card companies crack down on porn is a personal problem for him since he'll just find some other 12 year old girls to fuck.

>>717621024
>is there a known instance of these payment processors actually being (financially) negatively impacted by these "reputational risk" transactions?
of course there isn't, that's the entire point of why this is fucking retarded
not to mention, porn was legit the first ever type of thing you could buy online, online payment processors were literally born out of allowing porn to be bought online

Trump is officially gamer-tier Fuck Niggers King status

>>717621118
I'll stop once the files are released.

>>717621212
>Payment processors only started going after american companies after Russ Vought took power over them
Anon, stop, this shit was happening before that fag was ever even involved in any administration.
This isn't working, pick a different angle you thirdie retard.

I warned payment processors not to mess with me. They would not listen.

>>717619767
see
>>717618636
also, generally speaking, you can not force anyone to do any sort of custom work, or work at all really
that would essentially be slavery anon

>>717621026
>>717620889
This is complete cope. Trump had nothing to do with the payment processors going nuclear. He's also not the type to set a fire so he can put it out. Especially for such a niche issue.

If anything, it's most likely that Barron or Vance told him the gamers were getting angry so he thought he could score some easy points by issuing an EO he didn't even write.

>>717621024
No it's basically the last swing of extrafederal treason, if we're talking about the US.
>Broadcast media attempts and fails to starve something of traction
>Post google holocaust internet fails to bury your shit for ambigous "terms of service" violations under AI/Soulless influencer slop?
>Fuck it just steal all their money
All this being ways to force you to not exercise rights you are free to do so without it "technically" being government action so it's legal (It's still treason and if you want to get into it the government has a legal duty to do to anyone as an accessory to this)

>>717621313
Find me American companies that deal in video games that they went after, your cover up fails right then and there.

So did Orange man actually save the porn games?

>>717621024
Visa got sued a few years back because they were the payment processor for pornhub and they weren't taking down CP/rape videos.
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/fleites-vs-mindgeek-sac.pdf
https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/cacdce/2:2021cv04920/823614
It's still ongoing iirc.

>>717621284
Hey, the 'philes were released! You can stop whining now!

>>717621328
>you can not force anyone to do any sort of custom work, or work at all really
Sure you can.

>>717617501
thats why i voted for him

>>717621348
this has nothing to do with gamers, Trump supporters and Trump himself were targeted by banks and processors after Jan 6 and this is a response to that

>>717621212
Payment processors were targeting the Japanese for over half a decade at this point. Your boogeyman of the day isn't behind this. Visa and Mastercard notoriously caused issues with Pixiv that caused a lot of Jap fan artists to migrate to Twitter.

>>717620991
Kill yourself, leftard. Pedophilia was never anything but a weapon against my enemies. Fuck the children. This is your punishment for not just fucking leaving anime or Japanese games alone.

>>717621226
Since old times credit card companies have been charging "high risk" rates to porn companies and making even more. Before this whole fake and gay ideology became so incredibly prominent, I assumed they were demonizing Chinese cartoons in order to get higher rates from their 3DPD western porn and profit more. At that point they were profiting from both, but the 3DPD made them more. Now they just don't want you to buy things which as at the expense of their own ~3% cut. These companies are so profitable that they don't even have to care how profitable they are.

>>717621348
>Had nothing to do with it.
>Expect he installed Russ Vought to control payment processors who then started doing what he personally wanted.
This is just him salvaging against the backlash, like when he told his supporters to get vaccinated, because even he understood dead people can't vote for him, and he backpeddled after they started booing him.

>>717618636
No you can't part of the creative freedom we have here iirc is that we do NOT have to cater to a specific group/ideology/religion by force that's why we have shit like Church of Satan statues for their religious sects here even though there's massive backlash from christians and conservative people.

not a bank
nothing will happen
screencap this

>>717621515
>Fuck the children
yes

>>717621476
Trump would've done it sooner if that were the case. He signed like 100 EOs in his first week.

I'm sure Trump and his allies being debanked helped warm him up to the idea. Doubly so because there's a huge pro-gun lobby in the Republican party and Visa/Mastercard were/are fucking with ammo and gun purchases.

>>717621482
Again, not American game companies, those were only targeted under trump, specifically by Russ Vought.

>>717621515
Watch this, this is what I'm going to do to your children, tendie

>>717621574
see >>717620864

>>717616927 (OP)
First thing he's done right this term, but I bet this gets revoked as soon as a demoncrat gets into office.

>>717616927 (OP)
Why are Republican states still requiring ID to view porn?

>>717618624
>I hope he has right wing death squads exterminate the jeets next
>meanwhile in reality, work visas for all and every jeet
LOL

>>717621668
>complains about pedophilia
>threatens to kill children
Murder is infinitely worse than rape though?

>>717621515
Thanks for reinforcing my point.

>>717621212
>and is on video stating how he'd do it, and it's exactly the justifications payment processors are using.
post it
>>717621387
if I was willing to read that I would believe it
so I'll take your word for it, this actually makes a lot of sense
although I do not understand why these payment processors wouldn't essentially advertise it, would probably help them legally
although at the same time, having your brand theoretically associated with CP, even if only by bullshit connection, likely is enough to make PR shit their pants

>>717621706
OY VEY STOP NOTICING GOY

>>717621387
Ill be fair and say this is a website issue not visa/mc/etc
same with Only Fans, Visa/MC/Paypal should only move money and then cooperate with the law when required, not forced to be a regulator as well,as much as I hate them they do deserve some immunity for these instances

>>717621549
I haven't seen any proof Russ Vought even has anything to do with the present situation.

>>717621573
Well actually the church of satan shit is intentionally muddying the waters of the freedom of association.
Which you know works out great because some retard will Reply to this post attempting to assert that banks have a right to refuse these transaction, but they actually don't, specifically for the same reason the Church of Satan doesn't actually have the right to compel public spaces to display their iconography

>>717621691
"for political reasons"
it's direction brain crap. nothing to do with video games or porn or incest porn games. nothing will happen relevant to /v/

Okay, but who's going to be the first platform to stick their neck out? The damage may have already been done. Less riskier to just keep banning loli rape incest sims than to test out this EO that may not apply or be applied selectively or be rescinded down the road.

>>717621706
Because Christians are fucking annoying, not to the extent of Jews but yeah

>>717621767
MlGAtards are, as expected, extremely dumb.

>>717621774
They're not mutually exclusive. Think bigger.

>>717621706
Because they want to protect the kids (a good thing) but they're too technologically illiterate to come up with a proper solution (a bad thing). The proper solution is to create a kids version of the internet that doesn't have access to porn or social media, but 75 year olds who think computers are magic wouldn't be able to think of that solution.

>>717621889
Now read the OP again.

>>717621792
The only shit dying on this hill is you, cuck. Anime perverts are going to win.

>>717619013
That case wasn't about denied services. It was about compelled speech. You can't sue an artist because they won't take your commission that includes speech they don't agree with, especially when they'll take your commission for other things. eg, suing an artist for not drawing loli, when they're happy to draw milfs for you. It's not discrimination.

>>717616927 (OP)
Cool, so now I can run my terrorist group without fear of the bank accounts being seized?

>>717621889
READ NIGGA READ

>>717621965
there is no way in a million years they will interpret being against porn / gooning games to be "politicized" or "unlawful"
cope
wait two weeks and see nothing happens retard

>>717621476
Trump has a huge ego, this is a response to the past few weeks madness
also he knows that without Internet Freedom/privacy/anonimity there was zero chance in hell he was president right now, I dont even think he would even be on news or alked about at all after 2016 elections went to Hilary and e woull all be living in a much different place

>>717621959
So the anti-pedo is threatening to rape children now? wtf

>>717621962
Well more to the point the technological solutions runs directly counter to ever major tech corporation primarily operating off of connecting predators with children. Of all kinds, financial, sexual, etc.

>>717616927 (OP)
>Potential Impacts:

>1. Reduced latitude for ideological exclusions:
>If regulators interpret "debanking" broadly, Visa/Mastercard may face scrutiny if they enforce policies that restrict services based on political or ideological content - even if indirectly.

>2. Greater oversight of merchant restrictions:
>Practices such as blocking payments to certain industries (e.g. adult content sites) could be seen as ideological control rather than objective risk management. That could draw regulatory attention or require justification under the new order.

>3. Regulatory ambiguity remains:
>Critics warn that while the order sets a principle, enforcement details remain murky. What constitutes "politicized debanking" in practice - including payment network decisions - is yet to be defined.
Thanks grok.

>>717622097
*your* children!

>>717622116
That too. Stopping kids from getting preyed upon by corporations goes against the interest of corporations. Even if it would be a good thing, those who are supported by such corpos aren't going to go for the more sensible solution.

>>717616927 (OP)
Huh.

>>717621919
maybe he meant death squads for him and his job, which I guess is kinda true

>>717619068
better to keep that under the water, for now, this might fix Japanese market and then come back, VISA was geninuely causing international relationship strains with Japan they are even meddling with game developing this could kill kill DEI in Japan

>>717621802
>>717621809
>This man has already publicly stated his desire to have pornographic content, violent video games, and other types of content "harmful to children", banned from the internet.
>In a two minute clip posted on YouTube by The Intercept the following transcript, highlighted in yellow, shows his intended starting point (start with children), and then he cuts himself off from explaining the next part of the plan, of violent video games, etc, as that route had failed twice already in the past few decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0noIS9lmR0Y

He then gains control over payment processors and using that as the 'back door' to then go after 'pornographic' and now are setting their sights on violent video games.

>>717621024
Visa were held partially liable for continuing to work with MindGeek while they weren't doing their due diligence to prevent material featuring minors and coerced or forced situations on their amateur platforms. Visa had every assurance from MindGeek that this wasn't happening, and I'm sure MindGeek was serving them every piece of PR bullshit they had about how secure and responsible their process was. Something that was entirely MindGeek's fault, and something they behaved deceptively to cover up, ended up stinging Visa and leaving them paranoid it could happen again if they didn't take proactive measures.

And of course, content featuring rape, incest and fictional minors has variable degrees of legality under various state laws, and various caveats that prohibit or allow it. Visa and MasterCard saw that shit as a ticking time bomb, and took proactive measures to protect themselves. (Even though such laws are patently unconstitutional by definition, and would not survive being challenged.)

>>717622092
Don't forget that Barron is terminally online himself. Barron was getting Trump to go on podcasts which massively helped him in 2024.

>>717621515
It took ONE (1) week for MIGAcucks to go from "I AM THE WARRIOR OF CHRIST I SHALL EXPOSE THE SATANIC PEDO ELITE" to "fuck the children my orange nigger can rape all the kids under the soon, you lost commie, got what I voted for, God bless Israel"

Scary metamorphosis

>>717622082
yes it says for political reasons in the same clause

>>717622085
Holy shit you illiterate retard. Section 4 explicitly outaws using "reputational risk" as justification for denying financial services, that makes it "unlawful".
Please tell me you're just trolling and not actually this lacking in reading comprehension.

>>717622369
NTA but you are illiterate and hurting the cause

>>717621414
no, you can pretty much always refuse to do custom work simply because you don't want to (and the sole or most likely reason isn't due to illegal discrimination)
imagine being a contractor wanting to take a holiday, or simply not wanting to work for any myriad of reasons, and then having a (legal) gun pointed at your head because you refused someone who had money and requested a service
hell from a customer standpoint you wouldn't even want that because it'd be shitty work

>>717619779
fortunately, looks like it's been fixed over here. good luck faggot

>>717616927 (OP)
when will they learn not to mess with us gamers...

>>717619013
>calls others ESL
>"a massive case where Christians are allows them"

>>717622342
You're retarded, ESL.
Please learn what "or" means.

>>717622241
Well "against the interest of corporations" it's specifically tech ones like Google, X, Twitter, Microsoft, Discord etc.
The people that wanted to engage in legitimate business online didn't vanish just because google used their position as the upstream for all web indexing and the mistake that "net neutrality" was to intentionally murder the rest of the internet.
Most people want to engage in legitimate business online.

The replies to this thread make a lot more sense when you realize that 21% of american adults are illiterate.

>>717621706
This might be hard to understand but most of the nation's political activity is happening within one of two parties. Each party in its loosest definition has ~170 million members. There are a lot of different factions and individuals within the parties that have different ideas and goals. Neoliberals, market+social program democrats who want to make the US like Sweden, communists who want to make the US like Soviet Russia, all vote for the Democrats. Libertarians, Christian supremacists, Chicago school economists, all sorts of people vote for Republicans. They parties are not coordinated; they're constantly infighting, can barely agree on anything, and come up with insanely uncorrelated and contradictory policy packages. That's what happens when every possible political opinion is reduced to two parties. Nobody can even vote for the policies they support.
For example, who were you supposed to vote for if you wanted not to devalue every American's wages and savings? Sorry sweaty, you can't.
Local politics are more representative of the people who actually live in the area (the more local the more representative). That's overall a good thing but still results in bad decisions. You have some states where the Christian supremacists (basic bitch 50 year old moms) have won and this is what they do.
If they do anything too ridiculous they'll have to roll it back because it contradicts federal law. Hopefully soon enough this will be a 1st amendment issue and be outlawed with a federal internet freedom bill.
To this end, please support internet freedom and contact your representative in whatever jurisdiction you reside.

>>717622335
MKUltra in action.

How was this fixed so quickly after collective fart? Coincidence?

>>717622297
He doesn't say anything about VISA/Mastercard you retard. He's talking about pressuring porn companies, not payment processors. What he suggested was being implemented by Republican states (forcing porn websites to verify the users are actually 18), and it has nothing to do with payment processors banning the sale of anti-feminist games. And no, he doesn't have control over payment processors, he's in the Office of Management and Budget, basically the chief manager of the Bureaucracy in charge of hiring, paying, and directing the grunts in the Cabinet.

You Redditors are fucking pathetic. Kill yourself.

>>717622574
Lots of BAPist zoomers in the administration.

Neat. so when are MAstercard and Visa going to retract their statements and adhere to this?

>>717622472
did you highlight the wrong "or" then?
I interpret it as ((disagrees with or disfavors) for political reasons)

>>717616927 (OP)
Of course drumpf did this. Did people forget that he use to play with obamna and biden with his razer headset

>>717622686
They have 180 days to comply so you might have to wait a while

>>717622650
>He doesn't give you a smoking howitzer, so it doesn't happen
Just ignore the fact he's the Acting Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, aka the guy that oversees Visa and mastercard was doing and they're using the exact excuses he laid out in the video for going after porn games.
The sheep are waking up to your bullshit.

>chatgpt
>The “Guaranteeing Fair Banking for All Americans” EO targets banks and payment processors, aiming to stop them from cutting off lawful businesses—including adult and pornographic game developers—over political or moral reasons without clear, objective compliance risks like fraud or AML violations. While it won’t force storefronts to carry any game, it could reduce payment-driven pressure behind controversial removals. Odds are about 55% it softens processor bans, 35% storefronts still self-censor and remove games regardless, and 10% it triggers legal battles over “objective risk” definitions. This makes it a moderately significant EO for gaming and adult content businesses by challenging the financial gatekeepers, but the immediate impact is limited—existing removals won’t reverse overnight, enforcement will take time, and storefronts can absolutely still remove games on their own for any reason since the EO doesn’t regulate platform content policies.

>>717622673
what the fuck is a BAPist? im getting old

>>717622514
14.3% of Americans are foreign born legal residents. Another 40 million, or about 12% of the population, are illegals.

So 21% of American adults being illiterate (not being able to read in English) makes sense.

>>717618636
There's a baker right down the street that isn't Christian that will bake your gay cake with the same or similar quality
There are no viable payment processors for international transactions other than VISA and Mastercard. Completely different situation. If the Christian baker says no gay cake, you just go to the next one down the street. If VISA and Mastercard say you can't pay for this, you can't fucking pay for it, and all the available "alternatives" all come with a host of issues that make them unviable.

>Vote someone into office
>They actually do something in my interest for once instead of signing off infinite checks to Israel
Holy shit, this is what presidents are supposed to be like?

>>717622765
The CFPB doesn't "oversee" Visa or Mastercard you hyperbolic leftoid r/GCJ fucker. They're a government attack dog that Elizabeth Warren was gifted as her personal fiefdom by Barrack Obama that is now being gutted by Russ Vought. In fact, Russ Vought is specifically forcing the CFPB TO DROP CASES. They're becoming less onerous, not more.

And he specifically dropped several cases punishing payment processors like Zelle (and VISA and Mastercard) .

>>717622692
Retard, learn to read

>>717622850
Bronze Age Pervert is a fascist academic who largely appeals to young men and it's been confirmed that at least some of the current white house staffers are fans of his, one even took a picture there with BAP's book.

>>717622968
The fact that it appears to align with our interests is purely coincidental. This EO was drafted in response to conservatives being deplatformed/debanked around election time, not because They Messed With Gamers.

>>717623148
learn what a restrictive clause is

>>717623125
>Russ Vought has the CFPB drop cases against payment processors
>And extracts demands out of them to crack down on porn as a quid pro quo
>Just ignore the fact that PPs are using the exact same justifications that Russ Vought laid out.
Your damage control is fucking awful.

>>717622968
>instead of signing off infinite checks to Israel
Trump is the biggest Israel cocksucker in history.

>>717622574
100% without irony I would assume this is the reason why >>717622259
Credit Unions blocking payments for stuff on moral grounds opens them up to being pressured by the public to alter the way they conduct their business on grounds of morality
>if you're going after this type of porn, why aren't you going after _____ ?
>it's against your own terms of service!
etc. etc.
Not just infant circumcision in the USA, they'd be open to public criticism for TONS of other different types of morally dubious transactions that they're turning a blind eye to.
On the one hand, Credit Unions being prevented from politicized transaction handling is a genuine victory for democratic freedom
On the other hand, pressuring them on infant circumcision specifically would have caused an international incident, so I'm slightly disappointed.

>>717623259
Learn to before you start babbling nonsense

>>717622968
Trump is still a giant Israel cocksucker, he just can't realize he's fucking them over in the long run with everything like this.

>>717623221
Why wasn't this signed after his inauguration then? He signed literally hundreds of EOs basically instantly.

>>717622297
not disagreeing with your ultimate premise (that
in this clip he isn't stating that he wants to ban porn)
its just that its not to protect children, he just uses that rationale to ban porn so as to increase the birthrate (presumably since he believes porn availability = lowered national fertility)
honestly makes sense purely as a sequitur

>>717623298
seething because you can't give a coherent explanation of your reasoning

>>717622968
Trump is still an Israel fanboy, since he is a Boomer after all, but he's also got a huge ego and likes it when people praise him, so he does things to be praised by the public.

I will never understand why Boomers are so fascinated with Israel. Democrat and Republican, it doesn't matter.

>>717623305
They have no response to this. Trump is doing this for us. Its that simple.

>>717623343
>s-seethe

>>717622968
>infinite checks to Israel
Drump still serves his masters

>>717623347
Why would I view either of these tard nations favorably

>>717623278
There's no quid pro quo going on there, Redditard. He dropped the cases in February right after he got into office. Why would VISA and Mastercard start causing mayhem in fucking JULY if this was some backroom nonsense?

Russ Vought is currently in charge of, in his words, making the Bureaucrats cry. He's trying to make life suck for the federal employees who can't be fired so they quit, he's not scheming up a plan for VISA/Mastercard to continue doing what they've been doing for years.

>>717616927 (OP)
Some good news at last. Get fucked, Visa and Mastercard trannies.

it's sad how gullible politicalfags are
first they were saying it's so le based to ban tranime and porn games
now they are saying this somehow stops that so it is good
when they find out in two weeks it does NOTHING to do with that stuff they will go back to their old opinion

We won

>>717623458
I hate them both, but Boomers love Israel, and Liberal Boomers love Israel and Palestine.

>>717623316
>porn availability = lowered national fertility
Which seems like nonsense considering many Asian countries censor or completely outlaw porn and have worse birthrates than the US.

>>717623542
Could it be that the politicalfags are more than 1 person?

Or do you think /v/ console war threads are just 1 schizo supporting both Sony and Nintendo at the same time?

>>717617452
Look, even if they release some files, you or I have no way to prove those are the real files. And even if they did release them, and they were real, what are you or anyone going to do about it? It's become more than clear the fat cheeto can do anything he wants right now. Nobody has the spine to stop him.

>>717623521
Chidori's pubes

>>717623521
It's not good, actually. See >>717621212

>>717623726
poltards may as well be one person

>>717623681
The people who are concerned with fertility rates will support literally any measure to fix it besides lowering house prices and improving upwards mobility. The leftists are trying to fix it by importing infinity foreigners (who then proceed to have fewer kids just like the natives). The rightists are trying to ban porn and feminism while paying mothers to have kids (which also doesn't work).

>>717616927 (OP)
This is a rare occasion where I don't agree with President Trump. Payment processors should be able to choose whoever they want to work with (IDC actually, I just want people to get mad)

>>717623305
>>717623360
Isn't Barron a video game nerd? Trump has outright admitted that he's had an influence on some of his strategies during his election campaign. I wouldn't put it past him to catch wind of VISA/MC's shenanigans. He probably didn't sell it as a gamer issue but I imagine Trump would have been curious as to why Mastercard/Visa were slumping so hard and Barron probably floated the issue as related.

>>717623909
lmao at this headcanon

I have literally never heard of "Russ Vought" until this thread. I am going to assume the person talking about it has an agenda, and is trying to distract that this is good for video games as a whole. Fuck these payment processors.

>>717623503
Stop lying, it was only the open letter in that happened in July, we only saw mass de platforming of games in recent weeks. Also you easily confirm it's a quid pro quo since he drops all the consumer cases against them to extract demands and uses collective shout as cover.
Russ Vought also wants a national porn ban and he was using the sitution to do that.
Why you're a shill for him is baffling.
Considering he just scammed taxpayers out of 5 million dollars, I'd doubt he'd be her personally doing damage control.

>>717623305
Too busy ensuring the Epstein files would never see the light of day.

>>717623981
Prove me wrong.

>>717617562
Uh ah ah, you for got to ask all 10,000 left wing judges if they'll allow this.

>leftist derailing again
You're so obvious

>>717623681
an easy counter to this would be
>is porn still easily and realistically available in these countries?
(it is)
>does the censorship actually matter?
(no, as I can personally attest to, pixelating a pussy doesn't really persuade me enough to turn the PC off and pick a girl up at the bar)
Thus, those situations are not the same as what we envision of a true pornography ban,

I would, however, certainly concede that banning porn simply is not feasible, ESPECIALLY in the west. And is clearly a plot made by what is essentially an ignorant boomer.

>>717623841
>fix it besides lowering house prices
tbf, lowering house prices would probably crash the economy. For most home owners, their house is their biggest asset, and none of them would want to lower that value.

>>717623909
Barron is a gamer and he listens to Zoomer podcasts. He's also a fucking giant and has taken to advising his father just like his older brothers and older sister.

He got Trump to go on the Theo Von podcast, for example. I bet the boy knows how to do all the Fortnite dances.

>>717622748
>180 days
>once 180 days pass, they'll extend it another 180
>and another
>and so on

Zoomers get fucked once again

>>717623125
>>717623982
>>717623503
>>717624048
>he fell for it again
How long will it take for y'all to admit your orange edaddy and Russ Vought just want control over what you pay for.

>>717622574
Unironically it's...
>Trump installs Russ Vought of Project 2025 as Acting Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, aka the guy that oversees Visa and mastercard.
>Russ Vought has said on video he specifically wants a national porn ban and wants it implemented through back door (not laws) means
>Visa and Mastercard start going after American companies like Steam to de-platform porn games.
>Massive backlash from gamers
>Somehow it gets trump's attention since this will lose republican votes on top of their state ID laws that are defacto porn bans
>Trump out an OE to make himself look like the hero.

tl;dr trump installs a guy who tries to get porn banned, and then backtracks on it. Classic case of Arsonist hailed for putting out part of fire.

>>717623874
The payment processors have grown too big to even be nationalized by one country, but they function essentially as a public utility and should be regulated like one. When they are taking in a ~3% tax on most electronic payments worldwide I have no sympathy for "they are a private company so they can do whatever they want."

>quick, issue a useless executive order so they stop calling the phone lines and costing us money
lol

>>717624097
>>717624031
>>717624017
Based true blue 4channers keeping us grounded in reality. Don't listen to the bullshit petaled by MAGAworld, anons.

>>717616927 (OP)
Are VISA/Mastercard "Federal banking regulators"?

>>717624141
This might be the best summary of these events I seen. Good job anon.

>>717616927 (OP)
I absolutely love seeing that.
We warned you.
Multiple times, actually.
You fucking retards, lmao.

>>717624216
They have to abide by rules set forth by federal banking regulators in order to operate in the United States.

>>717624172
I mean Visa and Mastercard specifically cited "reputational loss" as their reason for doing this, and this order tells them to fuck off with that.

>>717623982
I started looking into him because of this thread. He doesn't seem to have any involvement with payment processors whatsoever. It seems like Reddit is just latching onto one of Trump's hires and making him a boogeyman.

>>717624141
Based anon. I tip my hat to you

>>717624141
AND BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE !!!

Someone needs to tweet itch or whatever and ask them if this means they'll allow adult shit again.

>>717624141
>>717624273
>>717624273
>>717624465
Yeah, this is a raid.

>>717624374
>>717623982
>he fell for it again
Look up Project 2025.

>>717620958
>coming months
>2023
Guaranteed you're one of the retards who think that one /pol/ """prophecy""" by the fucking leaf who admitted he made it up is still somehow legit, too.

>>717618486
GabeN is quite a lot smarter than that

All me btw.

>>717616927 (OP)
It's not just coomer games that are affected. Many conservative and right wing people and companies have been debanked and blocked by payment processors. This kills two birds with one stone.

>>717624141
Yeah I'm thinkin, as we anons say, BASED

>>717617452
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy’s been talked about for so many years.

Non Americans btfo, I know you are all kneeling right now, feel free to shine our shoes while you are down there

>>717624338
Can you provide a source for this?

>>717624141
>Trump installs Russ Vought of Project 2025 as Acting Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, aka the guy that oversees Visa and mastercard.
1. There are multiple people "of Project 2025"
2. He's the director of the OMB (Office of Management and Budget), AKA the guy in charge of the payroll of federal staffers. The CFPB is a quasi-legal organization that was created by Obama in order to police businesses despite not necessarily having the legal authority to do so. They're basically a group of federal lawyers and activists and have no real power because Congress didn't give them any.
3. The CFPB doesn't "oversee" businesses. They sue businesses for breaking laws. This isn't China where businesses are an extension of the government.

>Russ Vought has said on video he specifically wants a national porn ban and wants it implemented through back door (not laws) means
He said he wants there to be laws that put the onus of age verification on the porn businesses. This has nothing to do with payment processors. Oh, and this isn't extra-judicial either. States are passing these laws he supported.

>Visa and Mastercard start going after American companies like Steam to de-platform porn games.
The Payment Processors have been going after Japanese companies since 2019. This isn't anything new.

>Massive backlash from gamers
>Somehow it gets trump's attention since this will lose republican votes on top of their state ID laws that are defacto porn bans
The ID laws are state level and Trump doesn't care because he has no authority over these laws. The 9th and 10th amendment mean that the age verification laws are under the jurisdiction of state legislators unless and until the Supreme Court rules on them (SCOTUS will side with the states).

>>717624578
the moment steam ever goes public it will be over

hate to throw a wrench in your party basedlads but I don't think loli rape qualifies as a protected political stance

Gcj raid

>>717624561
You don't even know what Project 2025 is. You just heard Liberal Redditors (or Late Night "Comedians" like Colbert or Kimmel) losing their minds over it and started parroting what they said with no grasp on the situation.

>>717624923
this
nothing will change

>>717624923
It's legal in the United States since it's fictional and doesn't use the likeness of a real person.

>>717622335
i feel bad for your parents

>>717624923
Read it again man, this EO disallows not just removing service for political reasons but also for other unlawful reasons, then it goes on to define doing so over "reputational risk" as unlawful.
Loli content has already been ruled by SCOTUS as protected by the first amendment, so while it's possible that they will find another reason for keeping it off platforms, they can't use the reason that it's a reputational risk anymore.

No. This is vacuous grifter bullshit on the same level of claiming that the Patriot Act was full of nothing but beneficial patriotism.
>does NOTHING to fix the issue with payment processor dominance or banker TOS
>Only voted exclusively by MAGApedes rightoids
>Developed specifically so Trump can have a temper tantrum every time a bank claims he doesn't repay his loans and thus refuses to loan him more money, calling it WAH WAH POLITICAL
There is no solution here. This will only make things worse and atop it all, ruins what banking regulation we should have that actually kicks Visa/MC in the dick and restricts other payment processors, while pushing an alternative open payment universal compatibility. Hell, that doesn't even take a law like this - but Trump won't let the CFPB or the FTC / SEC do their jobs because that's not the point, its about ensuring everyone kowtows to him. Fuck, Project2025 specifically talked about banning 'porn' though ID requirements and other "think of the children" bullshitt.

This does not help Itch. This does not help Steam. This is garbage and has nothing to do with your games. Don't get played like you were in the past.

>>717624923
Countless games that weren't "loli rape" got delisted.

>>717625117
>This does not help Itch. This does not help Steam.

How doesn't it? It tears down the specific reason Visa and Mastercard had for fucking with them. "Reputational loss."

>>717625117
>don't trust your lying eyes and ears!!
>the EO that specifically bans the reason they used to censor steam doesn't actually do that because... it just doesn't ok??
Please cook up a better astroturfing script, this is really boring and lazy.

>>717621269
>he's doing everything i voted him for
Where are the Epstein files?

>>717624923
You lost.

>>717625274
Stop being antiseptic.

>>717624858
>This isn't China where businesses are an extension of the government.
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>717625086
feel bad for all the kids Trump and his bestie Epstein raped

Where's the epstein files?

>>717624923
It's protected by the first amendment, so yes, it does.
Hence why I can go to my local Walmart and pick up a manga where a 12 year old loli gets graphically fucked by a grown man.

>>717625415
Not my problem.

>>717625247
they can still consider reputation as long as it is "reasonable and apolitical"
it's just about protecting political allies

>>717625068
It could easily fall under the umbrella of obscene material, which is outside of 1st amendment protection. Just depends on the jury you get.

No see, you don't get it. We need to wait four years for a democrat to get into office, so they can draft the exact same EO, THEN we can be happy about it.

>>717625493
This but unironically

>>717625340
Don't you mean antisemitic?

>>717623185
dont forget he's a based homo faggot.
>>717624273
>>717624393
>>717624465
>>717624654
sorry to say updoots don't work here

>>717625117
>>717625274
are visa and mastercard considered Banks instead of Payment Processors under these new rules?

Lefties on suicide and cope watch. Which means it’s a day ending in Y.

>>717625479
No, this seems like something that could get Visa and Mastercard in hot water if they try and push their weight around going against this.

>>717625602
No but another part of the EO mentions that it applies to basically all types of financial institutions including payment processors.

>>717625247
>How doesn't it? It tears down the specific reason Visa and Mastercard had for fucking with them. "Reputational loss"

First, Visa and MC do not apply to this at all or any other payment processor. In the same way that PayPal, Visa, MC, or anyone else who offers financial services is "not a bank" (think of all those apps that claim to cut off all your subscription you don't want and get full access to all your banking shit without any of the privacy or other regulations that comes with being a bank). Next, the rest of it is basically a fight for billionaires over clubs you're not in - this is about how JPMorgan and a few others refused to loan Trump more money or back his shit in office projects with their money and he and his drones in Congress are fighting back to claim that instead of it being an
>Apolitical risk based decision, because he's a bad bet, or because some Russian oligarch is a Russian oligarch on a proscribed list or whatever the fuck else...
>its "unlawfully political" - HURRDURR YOU HATE ME BECAUSE SOMETHING SOMETHING MARXIST LIBRUL OF TIKTOK PLOTERINO
in the same way that "debanking" someone because they're black or a man or whatever the fuck isn't legal if you're a FDIC rated banking/lending system or similar SEC rated securities firm or broker. This has nothing to do with what's going on here with gaming and will only make things worse

>>717625702
May I see it?

>>717625809
>>717622068

>>717625671
that just says regulators can't go after people for those reasons but it does not stop visa/mastercard from having their own opinions on allowable content

>>717625809
Oops i meant to link >>717620864

>>717625858
No, it says that processors need to remove those specific things from their clauses, ie. they can't have anything that could be used to engage in debanking for lawful business transactions.

What you guys think this means:
>video games are not gonna get banned
What this actually means:
>funding to militia groups can now go through religious associations and banks can't seize fraudulent account from religious groups without said group claiming religious persecution

Your video games will keep being banned because "Jesus told it to me"

>>717625858
So it would come down to Visa and Mastercard making personal judgement calls. Which Visa and Mastercard specifically say they don't do. That they're just "following the law." Now there's no law they need to follow here.

>>717625858
No that's not what it says and that doesn't even make sense, the government didn't take action to protect the reputations of private companies.
The order is instructing regulators to remove the ability of financial institutions to use reputational risk as a reason for debanking.

>>717626026
You lost, accept it.

>>717624923
why do you faggost always think of this when it comes to censorship
and even then if loli/shota is safe, it means EVERYTHING else is safem that's how it works, its also such a niche market even in Japan that its only a problem because activist wont stop talking about it
BA cying emoji retards dont help tho

>>717626026
>leftists still trying to pin the blame on christcucks
Nobody will forget what you did in the past decade.

unlawful debanking refers to...an act by a...financial services provider to...restrict access to...financial services of any customer...on the basis of...lawful business activities

>>717625602
No, they are not. Also, under these new rules the idea of something being
>political
is completely subjective. Think about it, this entire bill is only voted on by Republicans. Don't you think if it was a consumer-friendly serious restriction that bettered banking, Elizabeth Warren (who used to chair the CFPB for that matter) and others would be onboard? But they're not because this is another temper tantrum to claim its the secret conspiracy demoncrats political shit whenever someone denies them for any reason, but when (You) are denied by a porn-hating platform I'm sure it will only be
>FREE MARKET BRO THEY JUST THINK YOU ARE A RISK BRO NOT OUR PLACE TO INTERVENE
Nothing good comes from this, even if it applies to other payment processors (which it doesn't because there are too many specifics for who and what is a 'bank' vs not and what rules apply). If you want actual agnostic payment provider neutrality then push for that, don't fall into this trickster garbage on the level of the worst handrubber you can imagine.

>>717625784
>First, Visa and MC do not apply to this at all or any other payment processor.

See >>717620864 You are literally mad that a good thing came from a president you don't like. You are too furious to be happy.

>>717621549
>RUSS VOUGHT RUSS VOUGHT
>BLAME TRUMP
>EVERYTHING IS LEFT VS. RIGHT. LEFT WOULD NEVER DO THIS TO YOU

Nope. This is being pushed by a coalition of radicals on both sides. It's all fucked and no amount of political factionalism will ever solve it. Both varieties of ghouls agree to create tools to fuck over the average person so they can play a game where they get to fight over the tools they created and play against each other for permanent control.

This shit has been brewing since before Trump ran the first time.
It's happening in multiple countries all at the same time, not just the US.

This is much bigger than Video Games. It always was. All you needed to do was say "It's pretty fucked up that all you need to do to get the whole video game journalism industry to promote your product is to be on the good side of just five people." Back in 2014. And none of this would have happened. Instead of being vigilant for villains and busybodies trying to control you, you said "I kind of agree with the villains and busybodies this one time. I'm sure letting them get a foothold will only do good. They're on MY side!"

>>717625407
I'm glad I could brighten your day :)

>>717626070
Lost what? I don't want games banned. What I'm saying is that this bill isn't what you think it is.

>>717617452
/Thread

>>717626121
>Think about it, this entire bill is only voted on by Republicans.
It's not a bill and nobody voted on it you actual bot, you're literally just saying things that sound vaguely smart to you.
You have the cognitive functions of chatgpt.

>>717626107
...for political reasons

which does NOT include loli rape or straight shota porn games

>>717626287
>that the financial service provider disagrees with
Learn how to read.

>>717625898
>not explicitly mentioned in legalese
Grim, but I do *hope* they actually do something about it. Guess we'll find out in six more months if something actually happens.
>>717626121
>voted
do not respond to me, retard

>>717624490
Itch purged a bunch of shit unnecessarily, so I doubt it. They just wanted an excuse.

>>717626287
Do you not have object permanence?
That section precludes section 4 which is in the OP and expands it to also prohibit restricting service over reputational loss.

>>717626335
He just gave you the qualifier
For political reasons. For Trump's "political reasons"

>>717626438
You're retarded, see >>717626391

>>717626478
>for political reasons
Learn to read.

>>717626204
You lost irrevocably.

>>717626338
>>717626241
To be fair, Pocahontas actually did run the CFPB and did absolutely nothing when VISA/Mastercard were fucking with people wanting to buy Japanese products. That very same Elizabeth Warren, no longer in charge of the CFPB because of Orange Man, is now crying about a 15% tariff on Japan when she was perfectly okay with payment processors outright banning certain Japanese content.

>thinking this wont be enforced one way only and ignored everywhere else
Lol. Lmao even

Third world doomers are SEETHING about this, this is hilarious.

>>717626141
>>717620864
I read. "Debanking" is a specific thing, and a "financial services provider" in the context of a "bank, savings association, credit union" is not the same thing as a "payment processor". Payment processors be it Visa, Mastercard, Square, PayPal or a bunch of others do not grant credit in and of themselves (PayPal's financial services provider bits are underwritten by an actual bank for instance). This doesn't even get into the fact that a "financial services provider" can be varied different things with different factors on its own (ie the ones who simply interact with finance or an app that lets you buy stocks through an external broker , as opposed to those that are themselves brokers or give credit such as those basically payday lender app things etc) .

What I wrote is still relevant to this and is not the proper venue. The act has other problems, but Visa/MC and other payment processors do not "count" in the same way that someone could be "debanked" by them because they don't "debank" anyone. Visa doesn't personally turn you down when you fail to qualify for a Fucky Bank Visa Card, its some actuarial tard at Fucky Bank who sees you have no job and 3 morgages on a shit house and never pay your bills on time, THAT is who this could govern and again, that's not the problem with what's happening here with Collective Shout

>>717626541
>not wanting to be at least cautiously optimistic about something like this when the retard in chief is fucking everything else up
>resorting to red vs blue tribal mentality
Dumbass

>>717626204
You lost and got raped Ernie.

>>717626204
your mind, your future, etc. you and your fellow retards are done.

>>717626287
why does loli need to be "rape" with you insuferable cunts?

tions of vanilla or not even NSFW games were hit by bs just because of bodytypes, remider that in Australia its ilegal for petite/small breasted women to do porn because it "promote pedophilic thoughts" and yes it was Collective shout many years ago

>>717626241
Look at the cosponsors, tard. That's a type of voting on a bill. Last I checked it was entirely Republican morons.

>>717626391
>prohibit restricting service over reputational loss.
unless it is "reasonable and apolitical"

also this entire document is targeted at regulators not the ones being regulated. some of you underagefags seem to not understand that executive orders basically do nothing and can only order executive agencies around to change their own documents. they don't change the law. nothing will happen and it isn't even aimed at this video game crap at all

>>717626646
You are jumping through hoops to hope this won't be beneficial towards people, simply because you do not like the person who signed the order. You are pathetic.

>>717626646
>and a "financial services provider" in the context of a "bank, savings association, credit union" is not the same thing as a "payment processor".

>>717626561
It doesn't really matter, this gives legal grounds for platforms to challenge payment processors over their restrictions and would likely escalate it to SCOTUS, which would be likely to side with the 1A interpretation of this EO.
Processors wouldn't wanna risk that so they're better off dropping the restrictions in the first place, it's better for them to avoid the risk of unfavorable SCOTUS precedent.

>>717626775
but it could possibly be part of "other financial services provider" if Trump chooses to enforce on them

>>717619465
such a lonely place.

>>717626965
Those providers can pay him off, gamers can't

>>717626692
>remider that in Australia its ilegal for petite/small breasted women to do porn
this literally never happened
you are regurgitating a 15 year old urban legend

>>717626859
I don't think any mainstream platform wants to be in the news for being the ones to take Visa to court to fight for their right to sell video games about cartoon children being raped.

>>717626965
It's irrelevant because Mastercard and Visa are both financial service providers, not payment processors, and this EO applies to all financial service providers AND their subsidiaries or contractors.

>>717626692
just saying you guys have no chance in hell from puritan retard amerifats wanting to protect any of that stuff. personally I want all "imaginary" things to be legal like Japan because it's retarded to seethe about fake things

>>717627047
Itch delisted games like Mouthwashing because of Visa and Mastercard. This has created a PR nightmare for both companies. You're not seeing any major articles supporting these processors.

>>717627047
I mean the new rules would even make games like GTA difficult to leave unaltered, the overreach was so severe that it wouldn't be hard to make palatable public arguments against it.

>>717619305
>You cannot deny selling cakes to gay people
the whole concept of "protected classes" is fucking bizarre to me.
you cannot force someone to sell something to someone that they don't want to sell to.

>>717627029
stop being a pessimist and just wait and see
it could be good for us this time
he could enforce it on them
he could stop funding isreal soon

>>717626743
It's like people know how he operates his mafia or something

>>717616927 (OP)
Does this fix the situation with stores outside the US like DLsite? Or payment processors will still be able to do their fuckery with them? Sorry I'm not from the US and I don't know US laws.

>>717616927 (OP)
>law
>actually an executive order that the next Democrat president will do away with
You've been grifted.

But Americans told me regulating companies is bad?

>>717627081
>all fiction is legal in japan except if you draw uncensored genitals you go to jail and if you draw porn of the horse girls the mafia kills you

>>717626859
Problem is this dosent truly fix much of the issues that lead up to this in the first place with the strong duopoly of payment processors. You are also asking companies big and small to go to court over an EO which dosent have that much standing. The smaller ones cant, the bigger ones won't. Its still a problem of lawyers

>>717626743
And for no reason supported by reality you seem to be up their ass shilling this stuff here out of ignorance because you love this administration and don't give a damn if its accurate or not. You could respond to any of the actual issues but you won't; the question is if its an ideological thing for you, generalized ignorance, or you just think this will pwn the libs or some shit.

>>717626775
Guessed you missed the word "context" there. Nobody's saying Visa is not a financial services corporation, but not one to whom "Debanking" is an issue in this usage. Its like the difference between
>Alcohol laws that apply to a grocery store , liquor store, or other packaged goods store
>Alcohol laws that apply to restaurants and bars
They all involve alcohol, but some parameters don't apply to one or another.

>>717626965
See above. Even if he does (and why would he - they just paid him billions to put tariffs on Brazil over Pix, which is a public universal payment processor that works at any bank in Brazil and is not run by a for profit entity thew way Visa/MC do, and Pix was trying to come to the US) it doesn't apply to the particular transactions going on here. You're not being "debanked" wrongfully or otherwise.

>>717627227
>No! Trump can't possibly do ANYTHING good for me! I need my life to be perpetually miserable. I NEED to suffer until 2029!

>>717627260
Nobody except fringe lolberts still believes this, modern conservatives are slowly learning about the will to power.

>>717627185
I got so many "Wait and see"s at work after Liberation Day and now our product line is in jeopardy.

>>717627178
That was deboonked. Mouthwashing was delisted by the devs way before this cause it didnt gain them much revanue so they stuck to steam

>>717627260
stop being pessimistic it could be good this time he could be working for america

>>717626646
>Under GLBA, “financial institution” is defined as any institution the business of which is
engaging in financial activities as described in section 4(k) of the Bank Holding Company
Act of 1956 (12 U.S.C. § 1843(k)), among other things. See 15 U.S.C. § 6809(3)(A).
Source: https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-19-196.pdf Page 12 (footnote 29)
This quite legally defines payment processors as financial institutions, and makes the executive order applicable.
>>717626965
Sexy eggs.

>>717626335
you lost. stay mad

>>717619068
>it's fiction
you are retarded and will eventually come around to touching real children the further you sink into your "fantasy" children

Why is there a raid?

>>717627323
>but not one to whom "Debanking" is an issue in this usage.

Ah, I see. These companies preventing people from purchasing things is not "debanking." Because. Just because!

>>717617452
At this point I'd still have his back even if he was in the files. Fuck off.

>>717627183
You don't have to be in a protected class for the law to protect you. Also, companies can and do still ban customers for bad behavior, and what constitutes bad behavior is up to their discretion.

>>717627425
Jannies also deleted threads about this for the first few hours, this site is giga pozzed.

>>717627415
Kill yourself, tradcuck. You're all next after leftards.

>>717627425
Because this is possible positive PR towards Trump, and that's horrible.

>>717627347
anyone that says lolbert is a certified retard, and none of this would be a problem without regulation because Mastercard can only do this because regulation keeps anyone else out of the market

>>717627323
>but not one to whom "Debanking" is an issue in this usage.
Except it is, since the EO explicitly says financial service providers, which means Visa and Mastercard.

>>717626287
disagrees with (unqualified) OR disfavors for political reasons

The level of reading comprehension in this thread is really killing my belief in my fellow man right now. The entire goddamn thing is like 16 paragraphs wrong and so many people itt cannot parse one compound sentence.

>>717627425
>le everytime le people le disagree with le me it's a le heckin raiderino
And yet you fags will cry that /v/ isn't one person.

>>717627510
t. lolbertarian

>>717627425
You can't go through life thinking any mass unpopularity against someone you worship is being astroturfed.

>>717626209
>/thread
>thread ignores him and keeps going
how many Ls you trying to get

>>717627332
Have you ever thought that people dont trust the orange retard in charge after doing retarded shit in a span of a few months? Like there has only been 2 positive things so far which is removing petroleum dyes and MAYBE this and that is a big maybe because Russ Voight is involved in this too.

>>717627582
you can interpret it either way

>>717627616
Thank you for confirming the only reason you're mad about this is because of the person who signed it, and not the contents of the EO.

>>717627510
You can continue being a principled loser forever if you'd like, but that doesn't appeal to many anymore.

>>717627602
not an argument
you're still a statist bootlicking retard thanking the government for letting you engage in commerce

>>717627425
last gasps of the IDF attempting to suppress the news now that trump is cutting funding to jew businesses and isreal

>>717627667
I have literally never heard of Russ Vought until this thread, so excuse me if I don't trust your fearmongering over some random new boogeyman.

> blocks visa and mastercard

>>717627510
the age of consent is 18 bud

I noticed with democrats in the room, even when you win you have to hear from them how you actually lost. My eyes rolled into the back of my head reading this thread.

>>717627732
We are going to enslave you.

>>717627701
The contents of any EO, law, or article the Constitution have proven utterly irrelevant to him time and time and time again, I am not giving him the benefit of the doubt at this stage.

>>717627761
isreal has six months

>>717627824
>the age of consent is 18 bud

That's where you're wrong in most of the world, including most states in the US.

>>717627235
It's a big fat maybe. The merchants would likely have to be more proactive about it and push the issue with banks and the processors, but sites like DLsite folded at the first sign of trouble. VISA even lied to the face of Taro Yamada (Member of Japan's House of Councillors) when he visited and redirected blame to a domestic office.
It's up to them to grow a pair and reference the EO if they're going to challenge this and not back down if they're given an "oopsie" excuse.

>>717627724
>>717627824
>>717627851
anyone else notice that anti libertarian posters on 4chan are all clearly underage? read these posts and tell me these people have jobs

>>717627860
Trump isn't the one involved with banning these games. It's Visa and Mastercard. And this tells them to fuck off.

The Steam 15 rule needs to be removed to know if this worked I guess. Hope it does.

>>717616927 (OP)
Another victory for the working class. :)
Shills on suicide watch

>>717622968
>instead of signing off infinite checks to Israel
But he's doing that too

>>717621024
They were offered "gifts" by WEGS to stop money flow to their rival industry the EROGES.
if they didnt do it, they would take a loss of not getting the "gifts".
they mostly did this off shore to dlsite and the like.
when they tried it inland on steam and itch.io, these based companies said sure we get rid of "degenerate content" and took down most WEGS. was pretty funny.
other than missing out on "gifts" there were no actual money loss as they were the defacto monopoly anyway.

please print this thread out and put on your fridge and see literally nothing changes in 1 year from now
maybe you gullible tards will learn something

>>717624858
>1. There are multiple people "of Project 2025"
He's one of the co-founders and biggest public advocates for it.
>2. And the head of the CFPB which does have authority over payment processors, also magically when trump installed Russ Vought in charge of the CFPB, he dropped a bunch of cases brought against payment processors too.
>3. The CFPB doesn't "oversee" businesses. They sue businesses for breaking laws.
That's called regulating aka overseeing business if you hold businesses accountable for breaking the law, BTW just so everyone is clear Russ Vought dropped a bunch of cases against payment processors for illicit acts right after he took power, that screams quid pro quo given his objective to go after pron and the payment processors then going after American companies.
>This isn't China where businesses are an extension of the government.
Lobbyist and ALEC wouldn't exist then

>He said he wants there to be laws that put the onus of age verification on the porn businesses.
He also specifically says about 'doing it from the back door starting with the kids' and Payment processors are specifically citing kids as a reason for their actions

>The Payment Processors have been going after Japanese companies since 2019. This isn't anything new.
This is the first time they've gone after American companies, and it coincides with Russ Vought taking power over payment processors and using the same justifications he laid out.

>The ID laws are state level and Trump doesn't care because he has no authority over these laws.
He still controls the Republican party and if they start doing something that he sees as a threat to his own power, he goes after them. State ID laws are effctively porn bans, but at the moment people cant still bypass them from VPNs until Republicans go after those. Russ Vought's banning games cannot be bypassed, which is why there was such a swift backlash and why trump had to back peddle on it.

>Couch fucker pic
Where's the epstien list?

>>717627920
That's right, helot. I haven't worked a day in my life and i never will, get back to pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.

>>717627394
You're grabbing the definition from a 2019 GAO report, not this bill specifically. Furthermore, even with that definition the part of the proposed bill speaks of being "debanked" wrongly and that's the core of it.

there are different kinds of financial institutions and they are managed in different ways. A FDIC insured account run by an approved bank is different from an investment account run by a SEC approved investment broker are both in the sphere of finance, but are governed very differently. After all, if you could make a a FDIC claim every time your mutual fund dropped when the market went down it would be a very different world.

Even if all the other shit applied (and it doesn't) if the go after Visa/MC for "debanking" people over what is being discussed with relation to vidya, then all Visa/MC has to do is show that in fact they didn't "debank" anyone and they don't do that in this context. Now maybe at absolute best you could claim that the banks using Visa/MC's services were vulnerable to this proposed action, but even if that's the case all they need to say is
>Hey, we are just following the TOS of the B2B agreement we make with Visa i norder to keep using their name and services. We're not debanking anyone, all of our bank account holders haven't been removed
and it becomes years in the courts of bullshit that nobody is "technically" doing anything wrong and everyone just loses out. of course it shouldn't get that close in the first place, but even if it did it wouldn't solve the problem because the issue with Collective Shout is happening in too many dimensions across too many different services with differing customers and definitions of the purview of each.

Thats why instead of this garbage, we need a sane administration to have the CFPB and FTC come down hard on the monopolistic ability defacto inherent in Visa/MC and other large payment providers, while pushing for a public alternative.

>>717616927 (OP)
meanwhile nearly all republican states will require state ids to view legal content online lmao.

>>717616927 (OP)
Based Trump. Protecting our freedoms even if indirectly.
This is why I voted for him.

>>717627459
>You don't have to be in a protected class for the law to protect you.
idk why you are replying to me with this. i don't see how this is relevant to anything i said.
>Also, companies can and do still ban customers for bad behavior
this is also not relevant to what i said which is that it's insane to think the government can force someone to serve someone else. a law like this literally protects outsiders over members of the community.

>>717627906
>

>>717627941
Trump isn't one that cares about these games, he only makes this kind of order to protect his buddies. So unless the creator of Naughty Loli Spanking Simulator shows up to the White House with a 24 karat gift like Tim Cook, you're not getting your porn back.

>>717628142
Trump plays Meet 'n' Fuck Kingdom, guaranteed.

The real question is will Visa and Mastercard continue these practices with regard to video games because no one affected is large enough to challenge them in court. Does it actually create enough risk to make them reverse course? Also, can't help but wonder if this is a fake win that won't matter when they deanonymize the internet, keeping us satisfied and complacent while they fuck us worse.

>>717627920
Libertarianism is the underage philosophy, because it doesn't have an answer to the jews. /pol/ was overwhelmingly libertarian before they grew the fuck up.

>>717627616
>this is good
>no it's not fucking Trump worshipping kike pedo
Kill yourself.

>>717628019
hey that's cool and all or I'm sorry that happened

>>717628081
There's a massive divide between boomer cuckservatives and psycho nazi zoomers, the latter group was in Trump's ear when he signed this EO.

Now get to steam to put back all those games?
I will believe it when i see it

>>717627356
thanks for the 150bil
maybe build your shit in america next time

What we need is a gamer president.

>>717626150
>BOTH SIDES!
Nah, it's christian conservatives in Australia and American Conservatives.
The only question is are the Australians working with Russ Vought in their crack down on payment processors or is Russ Vought just using them as a justification to put pressure on them.

Also this is clearly a right wing issue since it doesn't even touch on Republicans passing ID laws cracking down on porn and hentai in mass. BTW, Democratic states are killing the same bills so it's clearly not both sides like you're desperately trying to frame it as.

>>717616927 (OP)
is this just a bill or did this pass?

>>717628142
It doesn't matter. The EO literally dismantles what Visa and Mastercard used to defend themselves for their actions these past few weeks. If Steam or Itch push, they can get them to back down.

End your suffering, subhuman /pol/skin.
You will never, ever be white.

>>717616927 (OP)
I shouldve trusted the Plan, sorry Don (still cut off Israel please)

>>717626667
>accusing others of red/blue mentality
>fucking everything else up
LOL

>>717628184
so your answer is to work within the jewish system to beat the jews

GOOD LUCK

>>717627362
They still delisted horror games like Fear and Hunger and Exhume tho.

>>717627747
Based dog

>>717628260
That's literally what libertarianism is. You're not very good at this.

>>717616927 (OP)
Only good thing that this administration has done in 8 months. Good on em.

>>717628238
It doesn't force them to do anything if Trump isn't going to enforce it for the sake of porn.

>>717627439
Yes, words mean things even when you don't like them. This is triple the problem when it comes to legalese and banking.

>>717627576
Putting aside that the other types of financial service providers mentioned are exclusively credit granting ones (ie banks, credit unions etc), even if we accept that's the case and the EO applies, it doesn't mean anyone is being "Debanked" wrongfully. Even if the EO applies, it has to be about the idea that someone is being "debanked" and that the debanking is wrongful for a political reason

>>717628340
lmao cope
>>717628194
thank you for your contribution

>>717628191
No, it's the subset of the former that were up to their eyeballs in fraud convictions (now pardoned)

>>717628260
How do you think you can ancapistan can be accomplished if you're not interested in subverting the institutions to your benefit?
Do you just want to endlessly larp and shitpost about it hoping it will magically manifest one day?
Do you think you're gonna lead a violent revolution?
Some people are more interested in actually manifesting the reality they want to see than endless ideological masturbation, which is all that libertarians will ever be capable of.

>trump turning on isreali!
>right after he approved their occupation of gaza and wants all Middle Eastern countries to have formal Israel ties
LMAO, MIGA falls for it again

>people thanking Trump
>he appoints russell vought to office
>mr project 2025 who wants to ban violent games and porn
>russ is caught on video literally outlining how he was going to reach out to payment processors and do this
>trump has to undo the problems he invited into his administration
>/v/ immediately gets goy'd and thanks the creator of their problems for having the solution
Fucking sheep.

>>717628373
>it doesn't mean anyone is being "Debanked" wrongfully.
Except it does if they're being debanked based on what the financial service provider personally disagrees with, so yes, that would include smut games on Steam, and yes, that would include loli smut games, since you can go to your local bookstore right now and buy loli smut manga with your Visa or Mastercard debit/credit card as we speak.
Maybe you need to actually read the EO.

>>717628364
The fuck do you even mean? Visa and Mastercard literally used "reputational loss" as their reason for doing all this. This tells people using "reputational loss" as an argument to fuck off. If they try it again, this will escalate even higher, and I sure as shit know they don't want that. Unless Visa and Mastercard go mask off, and admit they want to be moral arbiters.

>>717628404
Whoops, I almost forgot about the billions we spent defending Israel. My bad, that definitely counts!

>>717622335
It was always going to be like this.

The cold reality is much of the right is truly, truly ride or die for Trump. Why? Because he aims to preserve "the old ways." The familiar days of yonder. Where "things made sense." Trump is the only major figure who seems to be acting in favor of that preservation, and as a result he is utterly infallible. If God himself came down and told the evangelicals that the libs were right, they would either immediately abandon Christianity or go mad at having to accept a reality they aren't compatible with.

A progressive world means throwing a lot of that familiarity away and acknowledging that we did some things wrong. They don't want that. At all. They don't want to be around people and things they don't and don't want to understand. They know exactly what they want, and they, each in their own personal way, have grown tired of being told to cope with changes they don't want. It has stopped being about right or wrong, and simply about keeping things "the way they were meant to be." They don't event want to have the conversation, which is why they deflect and "no u" constantly. It doesn't even have to convince anyone necessarily, it's enough that it makes your life just that smidgen harder.

People denied the vax and covid on their literal death beds before intubation. At this point it's technically not even ignorance anymore, because they always knew what they were about. If they're wrong, fuck being right. They'll just fight until they decide what is right. In the coming years, we'll probably truly begin to see what that means, and it's going to be some wild shit, even compared to now.

>>717628329
>That's literally what libertarianism is.
I can't exchange money without a heavily regulated middleman because the government says so, not sure why you think libertarians did that

>You're not very good at this.
oh you're just reddit like I said before

>>717628491
You literally only found out about "Russell Vought" today. You invented him to be mad.

>>717628491
>how DARE you be happy trump listened to you!
calm down

>>717628491
Don't care, I hate Trump, but I like that he did this.
If that upsets you, eat shit and die you direction-brained retard.

>>717628553
>complete non-sequitur
>ad-hom
Ah, so you're a bot.

>>717628562
>You will forget Russell Vought exist!
>You will give your ID and allow your movements to be tracked
>You will pay more for video games
>You will eat ze bugs
>You will live in ze pods!

>>717628540
>the left can't meme
you are just mad you can't exploit the epstein thing to win back the people you fucked over.

>>717628491
you lost and your funding is being cut
no more weapons and money for you, IDF

>>717628019
Some actual sanity. This doesn't even take a bullshit EO or a proposed law, all it takes if Trump is really upset about this shit is to allow the CFPB chief to go after payment processors, but of couse he won't because he's there specifically to enact graft for his administration and other vested interests in its sphere. As this anon said, the last admin was even working on cracking down on bullshit from Visa/MC other providers but this new CFPB stooge was basically ordered to drop all that.

>>717628491
you want me to be mad at him for correcting his mistake?

>>717628632
like I said anyone that says lolbert is a lying fag, here's your proof

>>717628502
it is allowed if "reasonable and apolitical"
imagine a conservative boomer regulator taking issue with banning loli rape games because it is not "reasonable and apolitical"
nothing changes

>>717628502
This tells people using "reputational loss" as an argument to not associate with the guys that set up a guillotine in front of the Capitol to fuck off.

>>717628647
I have literally never heard of this guy more than this thread. It's just a boogeyman the people raiding this thread are using to be mad that something good happened under a president they don't like.

>>717628540
I really am going to kill all of you nice and slowly until your worthless ideas die.

>>717616927 (OP)
>>717628756
Thank you Donald, now please release my taxes from Isreal.

>>717616927 (OP)
All of this happened because Trump is the president.

Keep calling Visa & Master Card anyway, they haven't officially apologized or changed their stance yet. They might even be brainstorming ways to skirt the law still.

>>717628491
All the responses are:
>you're only mad because you figured out he fucked up
>you're a jew
>umadumadumad
>he should be celebrated for fucking up and fixing it
Asses up and mouths open. The perfect goyim.

Make Gaming Great Again!!

>>717628723
You damn well know more than "loli rape games" were impacted by all this. Visa and Mastercard can't use the reputational loss argument anymore. It goes more and more into being moral arbiters. Which they say they aren't. If they keep trying to push this, it's going to lead to a huge amount of bad PR.

>>717616927 (OP)
What's the name of this EO??

>>717627760
Russ Vought and his neonazi christofascists are going to pull all of us into camps and youre worried about chud porn games

>>717625117
>Only voted exclusively by MAGApedes rightoids
It's an executive order you dipshit. No one voted on anything

>>717628756
you will die alone and unloved in a dark room lmao

>>717628736
This. People need to stop tracing things back and investigating and figuring out why stuff happened. Stuff happened okay? And it's going to keep happening and we don't need to know why or how it got like this or what anything is going to be like in the future! Just wanna crack open a cold one with the boys and play CS:GO and swallow semen.

>>717628782
>every post has to mention Israel even though nobody actually cares what's going on east of i-95 or west of i-65

>>717628937
So Russ Vought is the reason Visa and Mastercard were fucking over DLSite in 2023? Two years ago? While Biden was in power?

>>717628886
Every last one of your kind will die cursing anime girls and being born. Kill yourself, normalnigger.

>>717628938
I'm just asking him to please stop sending my tax dollars to Isreal.

If you are wondering why everything is happening all at once among all western nations, please don’t forget that all royal families and business leaders meet every year to plan the next 12 months agenda for civilization, I.e. WEF, Bilderberg, and the MEGA study group. The social, industry, finances, and war is all decided amongst them and you aren’t part of the club. It’s why it always seems like a school play is being presented to you and it doesn’t matter if the stage walls or ceiling lights fall on to the stage, the show goes on unabated and without rationale.

>>717628491
Listen, Russ "mad dawg" Vought is based, Trump is a based gamer bro, and you lost. Its that easy. Trump was right I'm getting tired of winning.

>>717629032
You likely live outside that range, so he doesn't care, and neither do I.

>>717629030
TACO :: YWDS
it's like poetry, it rhymes

>>717629021
You got me. Things can't happen for different reasons at different times. Never mind Trump-sama, I was a baka for blaming you for enlisting the writer of Project 2025 who wrote and then said he was going to do this and then it happened. What's up with you cultists and whataboutisms? If you have to instantly deflect to someone else also being an asshole you're just admitting that, yes, your guy is just as bad and is guilty of the allegations.

Ok Americans, now you need to fight the 4-6 bills on congress to not pass or a miracle liek Trump will never, ever happen again

>>717628495
>Except it does if they're being debanked based on what the financial service provider personally disagrees with, so yes, that would include smut games on Steam, and yes, that would include loli smut games, since you can go to your local bookstore right now and buy loli smut manga with your Visa or Mastercard debit/credit card as we speak.

First, lets not forget that loli smut manga is a big issue starting this thanks to a particular judicial decision that some anon trying to buy his loli smut would not just be culpable for "written or drawn CSAM", but also the store who was selling it, the payment provider etc. setting a precedent. So no, you can't in every state go and buy loli smut without issue, but that's another problem, much like how Pornhub decided to delete 10,000/14000 videos and only keep uploads that were by verified people for fear they'd get fucked over if it turned out one of the videos uploaded was "revenge porn" or had someone under 18 in it etc.

At its core this is one of these legalese things. Lets pretend that you have Fucko Bank Visa debit or credit card. You learn about the shit that Collective Shout is pressing against and maybe you wanted one of those games on Itch or Steam. You call up Visa and complain. They say that they aren't keeping you from buying anything, thats the merchant's choice. You call your bank and complain, you say you're being "debanked" and they say no, you have a Fucko Bank debit card in good standing. You say you can't buy specific porn shit with it? Oh? You can't? Someone denied the transaction? Well no, it wasn't available for me to buy because the merchant wanted to keep accepting Visa as a form of payment and it was in their TOS it made them look bad. None of these directly involve (You) being debanked, and even the interaction between Steam and Visa doesn't qualify as its not a banking arrangement. Thus, everyone gets to claim clean hands; out of room but there could be more

>>717629075
Thank you for your input. Please do stop taking money out of my paycheck to fund Isreal.

>>717629176
>You got me.

I'm glad, yeah. Visa and Mastercard were doing this before this guy, or any Republicans were in power. It was gay and retarded then, too. And it was infuriating that it was beginning to happen in the west. Luckily, this should put a curb to it, if Steam and Itch show a bit of backbone.

The Bonnie and Clyde of our generation

>>717629176
read the discord, rule 4

>>717628880
Besides the EO, the Congressional element is https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/401/cosponsors on the Senate side and you can see all the listed cosponsors.

>>717628212
Retard, the UK and much of western have left wing governments in power right now, that would all be chomping at the bit to get a win over Trump. It's not just the US and Australia.

>>717616927 (OP)
Now say "Thank you, President Trump!"

If you want to see changes grab a gun and start shooting

>>717628880
hey you lost

>>717628856
>desperately try to stop people from encouraging positive behavior
>fail
>cope post about it.

>>717629294
Why would an administration joined at the hip with rapid bible thumpers go to bat for porn? His pets in the Supreme Court already determined that online ID laws to protect kids is a-okay.

>>717629395
Start with yourself

>>717628491
It's always a good day to shit on MIGApedes

>>717629464
again, read the discord, rule 4, stop posting in this thread immediately you are undermining the plan

>>717629395
Thank you for your input, Goldberg.

>>717629176
So it was not only happening for years before hand, and Collective Shout has taken credit for forcing Visa/Mastercard's hand, but it's still somehow Russell Vought's fault?

I'm so sick of Reddit

Why does every leftard have the exact same insufferable, disingenuous, passive aggressive posting style?

>>717629294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0noIS9lmR0Y
>suddenly payment processes, porn bads in red states, and ID verifications both in the UK and in red states all happening within a couple months is just a weird coincidence with no ties to the guy who said he was going to do this

>>717628856
you lost and your funding will be cut soon, IDF

>>717629235
>So no, you can't in every state go and buy loli smut without issue
I can go to my local Walmart right now and pick up a copy of Into the Deepest Unknowable Dungeon, which features a 12 year old who's married to a man in his 40s and shows her getting fucked by him in detail.
But again, all of this is irrelevant, because this EO prevents Visa from using any means to debank you, including pressuring storefronts like they've done recently with Steam and itch.io.

>>717627510
Yes, I'm sure regulation is what's stopping someone from creating a massive network of banks and leveraging that infrastructure to create payment processors. That's the only reason

>>717629478
Saaaar

>>717629530
It's crazy how reddit is basically a Qtard level schizo factory x100

>>717629549
Vought said nothing of the sort. He said he was going after porn companies not verifying the ages of their users. He also has 0 control over the UK, and doesn't control state legislatures either. Nor does he control Visa or Mastercard.

You're blaming a boogeyman for no reason when we already know who is responsible. Collective Shout have even gone to the UN about their "harassment". This has nothing to do with Vought or Trump.

>>717629464
Well this EO goes to bat for it, so. Awesome.

>>717629549
The UK shit was voted several years ago. The great cuckening of the past few weeks has infuriated me. But this EO seems like it can prevent some of this bullshit.

>>717629646
Anyone who was around for Qanon shit wouldn't even dream of saying that.

>>717629242
>likely not American, so just a chinese psyop

>>717629549
States rights and power is fine. Censorship by restricing customer freedom is and unlawful

>>717629395
... the right wingers

>credit card companies flexing economic control across international borders
I knew the moment governments realized this was happening, they'd either snag control of it or neuter it as quickly as possible. At least it's the latter, for now.

>>717629631
>Everyone who shits on Trump is indian
A new day a new cope

Mutt

More like reddit card companies!

>>717628175
Well they certainly started cracking down big time when Visa was ruled to be liable for for the shit going on at PornHub.

>>717629720
Saaar

>>717629734
Every white person on earth support Trump you jeet

>>717629589
yes it is retard, try getting your payment processor PATRIOT act approved

>>717629478
>too young and newfaggy to remember all those liberals on twitter screaming they would rather DIE than take TRUMPS EVIL VACCINE back when covid was still in china.
I remember how you faggots flipped things around the moment the EVIL TRUMP "failed" to instate a mandatory quarantine and stop people from coming into the nation temporarily.
You shat your bricks and suddenly the vaccine was your savior.

Bump limit, see you next thread ;)

>>717629734
I love japanese media and could speak the language. I go there a few times a year and will keep doing so. You disguesting fags attacking and taking over these mediums disguest me

>>717629734
You lost, IDF funding cut soon

>>717629678
>He also has 0 control over the UK
Never said he did. But typically once policy is enacted in one place its easier to enact it in large parts elsewhere. That's just standard. Never said he controls the payment processors. Don't worry, I also blame Collective Shout as well. You're also forgetting the ID verification initiated in red states way before UK's, which you just casually ignored after making up shit. You're too deep in the sauce.

>>717629796
I still believe their hand was being forced, as it was by Collective Shout. I don't think they want to fuck with anything, but when people start threatening to spread the word that they enable rape and stuff, they get scared. This basically ties their hands and says that it's not their responsibility, and if a rape game makes money, they can get a cut and be happy.

>>717629734
First they cope then they rope

>>717629702
I was there when it started as /pol/anons making fun of boomers on facebook falling for the most retarded conspiracy shit. then retards like you showed up thinking it was all real.
>Trust the plan.

Trump won. Hitler won. Jesus won. Lolicon won.

>>717629915
The uk and eu doesn't matter. They can go full retard with their censorship but as long as payment processors can't attack then its still free

>>717629959
I don't know SEA geography, but I'm guessing that's Thailand.

/v/ will be much better if every single posters here was killed

>>717629969
>implying I believed in any of it because I called it out
That kind of thinking is exactly the retarded qanon shit that ruined this site.

>>717629967
Who? The troons? Those fags don't live to see past 30

>>717629982
True and based.
True and based.
>Jesus won.
True and based.

>>717616927 (OP)
Gamergate wins again.

>>717630065

>>717619162

>>717629395

>>717630038
Saaaar

>>717619224
Then they have to ban all porn

>>717630108
He's a gaynigger from outer space, though.

>>717629959
>Brazil
Kek the ladyboys are real

>>717630108
Thats a sick fag not a troon

>>717616927 (OP)
>some mutt law
Who cares hypocrites will always find loopholes

>>717630170
Honestly, I would have sucked his dick in the Brady Bunch movie.

>>717629959
>Aussie is full of fuckin gay cunts
Yeah sounds about right

>>717630142
Did some troon/jeet make this? Its A not AN

>>717620991
You won't do shit, leftist.

>>717619224
US Law literally says fictional characters are not illegal in any shape or form. And anywhere where fictional stuff is illegal you can just block it on a per region basis in respect to said local laws. They ain't getting away with it.

>>717630259
>straightest redditor

>>717628736
>>717628937
>>717629021
>>717629176
>>717629294
Now this is advance samefagging to cover for Russ Vought
Just more proof people are on the right track given the sheer amount of effort is going to try to cover for Russ Vought.

>>717621348
Well it works, gamers are happy now

>>717629571
Are you one of those that assumes that the fires and mudslides must not be happening because your weather on the other side of the country is clear and comfortable? Yeah its great for you that you ca pick that shit up at your Walmart (for now) but you see how legal precedents and related issues work, yes? Or is it only a problem worth learning about once you personally get fucked over?

>EO prevents Visa from using any means to debank you, including pressuring storefronts like they've done recently with Steam and itch.io.
They're not debanking (You) in any way. Steam and Itch could make an argument at least, but Visa/MC is not "debanking" them because their financial transaction does not fall in line with that terminology as they are not "banking" with Visa and thus cannot be "debanked" or removed from service. We haven't even gotten into how Visa/MC will probably be the ones to spend their infinity bux not just on lobbying this admin (whci they've already done en masse sufficient to get the Brazil decision against Pix through 25% tariff proposal etc), but through the courts with
>But you can't expect us to have no TOS, right? Otherwise all those good christian business owners could be threatened have to pay/enable their service to be used for degenerate tranny porn and child molestation!
at which point now Visa/MC are even stronger than before...even if we don't go into the fact that its highly likely that enforcement of such an EO or law would be uneven at best, where the moment someone ideologically opposed to Trump or associates made a similar claim they'd be judged in violation but a good christian pedo grifter will of course be innocent.

So yes, it can get much worse but no as written its not going to help anything because it leave legal and definitional variation even in an environment without an admin that bends and breaks rules the way this one does

>>717629959
>countries visited by white people
I guess being a faggot is truly a white man's disease

>>717630302
It looks modified, but you outed yourself as a newfag. Jesus.

>>717630302
retard

>>717630359
Russ Vought caused the UK to vote for cucked censorship laws in 2023. Russ Vought personally fucked over DLSite in Japan in 2023.

>>717621325
Did your game get delisted? I like robots but the demo was a bit lackluster in content. It was also just a glorified VN instead of the manager sim I imagine it'd be. That was disappointing.

>>717629365
>>717630483
The ID law in the UK created and passed by the Tories and Labour is so right wing now that their former leader is creating an actual left wing party to challenge them.
It always comes back to right wing conservatives being the party of censorship and anti freedom.

The 'both sides'? It's just conservatives trying to escape culpability for their latest censorship campaign.

>>717630373
>They're not debanking (You) in any way.
They are, read the EO.
I'm not reading any more of your posts until you take 1 minute to read the fucking EO and understand what a financial service provider is.

You know people know about this law for a while and it doesn't actually effect the payment processors

>>717630626
>Labour is so right wing now

"EVEN IF THE LEFTY PARTY IS IN POWER, THEY'RE RIGHT WING IF I WANT THEM TO BE. EVERYTHING BAD IS RIGHT. EVERYTHING. I AM TOTALLY DIRECTION-BRAINED."

>>717630626
The only UK party that's actually said they'll repeal it are Reform, which is the super right wing party. Call me when the SDP do the same

>>717630694
This executive order was literally signed today. And it does impact payment processors.

>>717630662
Trump will not enforce this EO for porn. It's to protect himself and his gang. (You) and (You)r plight does not matter. If news of this whole affair gets anywhere close to the White House, Laura Loomer will whisper in his ear and remind him that sinful coomers must be purged and go to Hell.

>>717630721
>Caplock meltown
God forbid we have an actual liberal government and not have the shit choice of far right and center right.

>>717630771
Their co-leader is a pajeet, hard to call them super right wing. Also they said they're going to replace it with something immediately and not telling you what that plan is, that's code for something worse.

>>717630781
It won't
Nobody can touch the payment processors, not even God.

>>717630830
>Trump will not enforce this EO for porn.
You're retarded, read the EO.

>>717630830

>>717630876
Well that's just wrong. They're being ordered right now to remove anything in their TOS about "reputational loss," the thing that they shielded themselves with for the whole Steam and Itch debacle.

>>717630830
Saaaar

>>717630870
It's good to know we've just got an actual commie here. Explain why this thread has been filled with so much seething.

>>717621269
Why is he still supporting Israel then?

>>717624191
Youre being a genuine twat. Even if it does get fought the effort alone to fight it is pretty fanfuckingtastic. Neither Kamala or Biden would have given a shit. Democrats have their head so far up in their ivory towers they are completely disregarding the modern day consumer struggles.

Literally those pieces of shit think they are fixing the economy by encouraging worthless degrees for worthless jobs and using taxpayer money to make those worthless jobs.

how is GCJ handling this devastating and confusing news? Prayers to them and their families

>>717616927 (OP)
This doesn't stop dick. If you read any of this you'd know Visa is claiming to be enforcing federal law and interpreting that to apply to the utmost against anything remotely teenage oriented. Visas censorship group needs to be dismantled and all these fake online protection bills struck down with prejudice.

>>717631090
Kikes own the planet.

>>717630830

>>717631127
This EO tells them to fuck off with any of that shit.

>>717631175

>>717631142
>divine right
>own the planet
>still not satisfied
Every time

>>717616927 (OP)
Trump saving the day was not on my bingo card

>>717631074
>Anything left of center is 'communism' in conservative clown world
Good to see conservatives still poisoning the well on public welfare and freedom.
But keep supporting those bans

>>717631238
lol what a fag

>>717631238

>>717631316
What an ugly retard.

>>717631284
Ah, yep. Here's the classic. "I'm not a communist!"
>Has every fucking communist belief
Been dealing with your kind for a decade at this point. Bunch of weasels.

>>717631284
Blooded bitch tarrif and ban on india h1b!! Fak you america.

>>717630662
I've read it (and the horrid Senate version of the bill). Do you seriously not realize that what Visa does with Steam or Itch has no legal bearing on your relationship with Visa, or your relationship with your bank (who has their own relationship with Visa). You are not being "debanked" because something happened three tangents twice removed from you that you don't like.

I may as well claim that I'm being censored by the gov't in violation of my 1st admendment rights because I can't post porn directly on YouTube - it has the same amount of legitimacy. I'm not being censored, YouTube has chosen to set rules about not having porn for their own reasons and one of those reasons is wanting to appeal to advertisers. I'm not being denied access to porn elsewhere because I have a YouTube account somehow or whatever the fuck. YouTube's decision to allow porn, even if I don't agree with it, does not mean I'm being wronged much less illegally censored in violation of my first amendment rights (because of course, 1st amendment rights apply to gov't repression of speech et al, not just any corporate or private industry making their own rules)

You're the one who doesn't understand not only the context for a "financial service provider" (which itself could be argued but I digress), but the main focus of the bill is regarding being "debanked" unlawfully and that requires a banking relationship separate to yours and Steams. If anything,, Steam would have to make the claim against Visa themselves, but it would be very easy to say the kind of payment processing they have does not qualify as being "debanked" wrongfully or otherwise.

>>717630108
Is it the fate of all black people to turn into Debra Wilson as they get older?

>>717631387

What? Trump did something... le good?!?!?!@?!?!?!?!?!#?!#?sdrgh se5tyre56bb

>C'mon guys, why can't you be positive? Musk just said we're all gonna get DOGE checks!

>>717631683
>I can't possibly imagine a good thing happening so long as my opposed political party is in power

>>717631416
>Gaslighting
guess that means you're a fascist

>>717631728
>I can't wait for Mexico to pay for The Wall!

Trump is the problem not the solution

>>717631487
Steam, Itch, DLSite, et al are the ones being debanked.

Raiders trying to get the last word in.

>>717631568
He didn't, he's cleaning up a mess his lackey from Project 2025, Russ Vought created.
trump set a fire and now his glownigs from /pol/ are applauding him for putting it out.

>>717631935
Russ Vought did not make Visa and Mastercard fuck over DLsite in 2023.

>>717631842
I hope they do

>>717627747
Explain

>I hope they do

>>717631979
Russ Vought did make Visa and Mastercard fuck over Steam in 2025

>>717632072
How? When they were just pushing the same shit they've been pushing for years, but in the west.

who the fuck cares lmao

>>717632065
Least obvious MAGA falseflag

>>717632135
Most self-aware communist.

>>717632119
They only started in America because of Russ Vought.
Go ahead, look up any American companies they went after.

>>717628001
I'll take up your idea and be ready to hand out the Fell For It Again ribbons then

>>717632191
This started because an Australian activist group bitched at Mastercard and Visa.

>>717631487
This is an AI-generated post.

>>717630626
You killed Senran Kagura. Shut your fucking mouth, lib!

>>717632238
>Conservative Christian lead group
The only question with that is were they conspiring or did Russ Vought just use them to push his own agenda.

>>717631842
Eternal salvation awaits those who fight for the cause to the very end.

>>717632254
Where was the law mandating to do this?
This was just Sony going retardedly right wing in the censorship.

>>717632282
I'm glad you have a new boogeyman to forward all your frustrations towards, anon.

>>717632135
>why is my anti-white, anti-male, anti-family ideology infested with degenerates?
Gee, I wonder.

>>717631487