Thread 718046060

I saw that starwars conversion mod, is the game actually fun with it?

No. I tried it at launch and thought it was very bad.

>>718046060 (OP)
I might. After I beat Doom TDA and Gears of Sóy Judgment

>>718046060 (OP)
I played it during release. Is the gun balance still stupid (high rof guns do less per bullet but magically do more when semi auto)? Are bases still pointless? Are there more PoIs to explore? It's still loading screens galore, isn't it?

>>718046087
i haven't played it myself but it looks like a pretty ambitious mod. it manages to introduce speedsters which i didn't even know the game supported. there's also a ton of fauna and questlines to it, along with dialogue modification obviously. it looks pretty fun and worth trying out imo.

>>718046060 (OP)
I got tricked into playing this at launch, and I'm embarassed for having been excited about it. I was one of the dumb fags arguing here that it was going to be great. What a terrible fucking game.

hmmmmm nah

>>718046060 (OP)
not yet

>Anno Domini, 2025
>Farquaad posting

>>718048454
hoooly shit I forgot about him

>>718047901
You have my sincerest condolences. I didn't expect it to be good considering how Fallout 4 and 76 turned out, but I didn't expect it to be quite that bad.

>>718046087
It's improved but there's huge issues with the base game that mods cannot fix.

>>718046060 (OP)
I actually did play an hour last night. I was doing some sidequesting for that one new companion mod and then I got pulled into the start of the Watchtower stuff which was cool as shit HOWEVER I've been in more of a Morrowind mood lately. That big TR update and the OpenMW update was just too tempting not to start up a new character in there. And my Starfield install is set to never update so I am locked-in and can play with all the pirated mods at my leisure without fear of Todd releasing sudden patches and breaking everything so I can just keep playing until there's a reason to update. All is well, anon. Every evening is filled with Bethesda games never you fear

>>718047989
The first time I saw one of those cryo labs I thought "hey this is kinda neat. Maybe it's part of a quest or is just a unique area that only spawns once per game." Then I found another halfway across the map. Serves me right for trying to compliment bethesda.

>>718046060 (OP)
I did. Once. That is all you get Todd.

>>718046060 (OP)
Drop the price to 20 bucks, and sure.

>>718046060 (OP)
I'd rather play Starbound

>>718046257
Bases are pointless unless you want to autism build. There's a mod that fixes POI variance by adding a long cooldown to the ones you've already seen

>Removed stripping dead body
>Sandwich and sleeping bag in the open on deadly planet surface
>Duplicate dungeon

I put 165 hours into the game. I'm a sucker for the Bethesda "genre", as it were. It could have been an 'okay' game if not for so many strange design decisions that felt like they existed because 'Todd said so' and an immediate jump towards leaving mods to fix shit. Paid mods, at that. I think what annoyed me most was the lore and setting. I understand WHY they can't have proper infrastructure and more than 1 actual 'city' on a supposed capital world, but it's still stupid.

>>718049561
Bethesda seriously doesn't deserve this sort of goodwill. They're beyond lucky to have the customers that they do.
That's such a trivial fix to such a huge flaw in the game that I have to wonder how much time Bethesda actually spent playtesting Starfield before they shipped it.

>>718046060 (OP)
Waiting for the next DLC before jumping back in.

>>718049705
>I understand WHY they can't have proper infrastructure and more than 1 actual 'city' on a supposed capital world
Tell me

>>718046060 (OP)
i did
it was extremely mediocre

>>718049843
Game mechanics, laziness, and likely game engine limitations. Their random planet surface generator could only generate points of interest scattered about with no roads or power lines to connect them. None of that even remotely resembles what a civilization capable of waging an interstellar war should have. Also they just did not spend the time to create multiple cities that should exist on a major planet. If there is a lore reason for not building sane interconnected towns, cities, or industrial bases, I don't recall.

>>718050343
>no roads
this is the why starfield is inferior to other bethesda games

>>718048785
sounds like Skyrim and Fallout 4

>>718046060 (OP)
Why?
It's not fun.
It's not entertaining.
It's not memorable or interesting.
So why?

I did, it sucked and I regret the $40 I spent on it.

>>718053440
wrong on all counts

>>718053742
Saying "ur wrong akschully" doesn't change reality.

>>718053784
fair, games are very personal to your tastes.

>>718053742
fuckin lol

>>718053367
the different is no modder willing to fix Starfield to it's smallest bugs unlike Skyrim and FO4

PFFFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>718053810
>"Starfield is not fun, entertaining, and memorable"
>"umm akschually you're wrong"
>refuse to elaborate
>leave

>>718046060 (OP)
I like how it's a comfy boomer selfie.

>>718046398
>it looks pretty fun and worth trying out
>i haven't played it myself
so... play it??

>>718047989
nice loop

>>718054129
i don't have a lot of storage space, i've been hoarding games like a dumbass and have to decide if i'm gonna uninstall things or buy a new ssd lol. but yeah i plan to play it at some point.

The sad thing is that I went into Starfield expecting a mediocre experience, and I still managed to end up severely disappointed by it. There wasn't a single aspect of the game that didn't feel like it wasnt half baked and poorly thought out.

>>718047989
They still haven't fixed this; it's bizarre.

>>718046087
that doesnt sound very legal
howd they get around the copyright issue

>>718053367
NTA but Starfield has alot running under the hood that a few scripts a modder writes in their off-time couldn't even properly fix. The game obfuscates alot of loading zones behind animations and cutscenes and even then it takes ages to do simple things like take off on your ship, find a planet to land on, land on said planet and get out and explore.
There's a lot of cells and load screens you have to walk through just to get to like, a store or dungeon.
I'm in the camp where had the game been scaled down it would've probably been less of an issue but the scope and vision was massive. the game has some cool ideas the concept of proc genned mini Skyrim open world maps is cool, but fuck me man, all you ever do in them is just blast rocks with lasers for crafting materials and shoot at Skyrim deer reskinned as "aliens" for more materials and just do recycled radiant quests/dungeons. Wide as the Pacific Ocean deep as a kiddie pool.

>>718047989
>>718054772
How does this happen? Even if it was a "left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" situation, they would've had multiple employees, and testers I'm assuming, catch it. Bizarre is right, the game being released as it is, and with few meaningful changes, is literally beyond comprehension.

>>718054830
When it's not used to make money. Most copyright laws don't apply

>>718053367
Slopfield wishes it was like Skyrim

>>718054772
>They still haven't fixed this; it's bizarre.
It's just bad rng. I played starfield for 400 hours and it only happened 3 times for me. But still they should at least double the number of POI.

I'll pick it up after all the DLC is out and Bethesda bundle it all at 75% on a Steam sale

>>718046060 (OP)
Sorry, I'm not Indian.

Did they make it an rpg where my guns skill has a direct, superseding impact on damage levels compared to something arbitrary like player aim?

Fuck off Todd

>>718061117
yes
its has level scaling for weapons tho, you can go to a level 100 planet and either cheese an enemy or pickpocked them you can ignore the gun skills for a long time

i played it when it came out and it doesn't seem like they really added anything in the past two years.
okay, they released an expansion DLC, but apparently it was short and not good

I thought it would be Skyrim with gons at the worst
lol
I was wrong

>>718046060 (OP)
I did, put 100 hours in beating it once.
I did a lot of side content, made a planetary base, had a great ship, amazing guns.
Game is boring as fuck and really easy. Max difficulty and the only times I had issues was space combat where I'd die instantly a few times.
Writing sucked, companions sucked, cities sucked, quests sucked, everything sucked.

I gave it an honest go but I say no.

>>718046060 (OP)
I played it for a few hours on game pass on release, I don’t think I’ve ever played a more soulless and boring game in my life, also filled with bafflingly stupid design decisions that should have been obvious in play testing like the garbage travel system, and everything in the universe has this sterile, made by the HR department vibe to it, terrible, TERRIBLE game

lol, I don't even think its that good of a game. Just really like looking at my character

>>718061704
Fallout 3 looks like a masterpiece of gameplay and gunplay compared to this.

>>718047989
>>718054772
why does it loop like that

>>718046060 (OP)
I don't wanna.

>>718046060 (OP)
Its enjoyable if you recognize it for the liminal nightmare that this universe is and how humanity in this game is stagnant, stuck in stasis. I think it would be giving Bethesda too much credit to say that they intended it this way. They definitely didn't. But what they ended up creating is a nightmarish timeline for humanity

>>718046060 (OP)
good morning sir
is it still the white man's game?

>>718046060 (OP)
I love Bethesdaslop and yet I've put significantly more time into both modded FO4 and Skyrim than Starfield in the 2 years since Starfield released. The game is fucked at its core, no DLC/update/mods are actually going to be able to fix the shitty gameplay loop. It's not fun to play by design.

My interstellar sandwich farm failed and i'm NOT going back to pay my loan back.

this video always cracks me the fuck up
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3HslVuF8uL8
what the FUCK were they thinking with that shit game?

>>718046060 (OP)
There are better game so no I don't want to do the fucking over long starting section ever again or even if you got me the game for free I wouldn't play it.

>>718061991
More of an RPG, too. Even though Starfield is admittedly a step in the right direction after the mess that was Fallout 4, its skill system with the whole "you need to complete this Challenge™ before getting the next skill" seems purposefully designed to syphon the fun out of the game by severely limiting you and effectively forcing you to spend the first 20 levels getting standard things if you don't want elements like ship combat to feel like shit.

>>718063131
Not to defend the game, but realistically what else would you expect to see on a BARREN FUCKING PLANET in BUMFUCK NOWHERE. People wanted believable outter space exploration and got what the asked for, but not what they expected.

>>718063131
>exploration is just beelining to the next copy pasted point of interest in a straight line, with literally nothing in between
riveting, bravo todd

>>718063251
people complained about the Mass Effect planets for the same reason and Bioware had to remove them in the sequels so normies would stop crying

the fact is space games are very very niche compared to fantasy or post-apoc

>>718063251
they could've, i dunno added ancient aliens and stuff

>>718063251
How about not taking a year and a half to release a fucking car, I thought we figured that one out back in 2007

>>718063251
I don't know maybe making traversal more engaging?
Look at fucking Death Stranding, empty ass landscapes, but the "in-depth" movement, terrain, inventory management, and gear/vehicle mechanics kinda fills the void

>>718063332
everybody hated the Mako

>>718054772
The real problem is that even if you didn't see the same PoIs constantly, there's barely any difference between them in the first place and they all blend together. Abandoned hangar, abandoned weapons factory, abandoned military base, abandoned cryo lab. And they all look 90% the same on the inside and only have the same guys in spacesuits with the occasional robot attacking you.

>>718063420
and the same journal entries.

>>718063251
>People wanted believable outter space exploration
Who? Who wanted that? Who asked for empty shit? Who asked for that specific part of space exploration?
Did someone read "we want the exploration to feel realistic" and could somehow not assume they wanted immersive travelling experiences and tinkering with space gizmos to reach unique and alien landscapes, rather than just boring shit with nothing?
Did that need to be specified?

>>718063531
>>718063352
bethesda lacks ideas guys

>>718063531
they couldn't even make exploring planet surfaces dangerous. astronauts are inches away from death at any given point, but adverse conditions in starfield? a light inconvenience at worst.

>>718063660
>>718063690
THE WHITE MAN'S GAME

>>718056702
It's literally all randomly generated. There's no manual intervention.

>>718063379
Everybody was wrong, I loved the fucking thing. Even then, ME1 would've been a worse game had it not had either uncharted worlds or kept the planets but forced you to walk all over them akin to Todd's game.

>>718054863
They really should have just left the game as one solar system. Maybe 2 or 3 if they wanted to be ambitious, one star system per faction. None of that meme proc gen stuff, it'd allow them to concentrate on putting hand-built content down on a smaller number of planets instead of being dipshits with hundreds that are emptier than fucking Fallout 4 (which was already really empty)

>>718063251
>People wanted believable outter space exploration
No they fucking didn't. This is simply the excuse they gave on why the game is so boring and soulless.

hi Fagio

>>718046060 (OP)
About to load it up right now. Been playing since launch. Surveyed every single world in my first universe, now I'm on some NG+ universe, I lost count, but my powers are maxed out. Am I out of things to do? No. I'm in a new semi-permanent universe, running through all quests and maxing out companion affinity again. Getting ready for DLC #2. Even once all of this is finished, I still have to max out all my skills and reach level 326. Then there will be more DLC. Once Bethesda stops support, it will finally be time to fuck around with mods.

>>718063802
Yeah seriously, it's crazy how much potential is squandered by the game.

They could have gone hog wild with the fallen empire of Earth colonizing the solar system; have lots of little bases on the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, have no "aliens" but modified or terraformed planets with strange chimeric but still recognizable creatures from Earth as the monster designs.

Then? When you encounter ACTUAL aliens somewhere it becomes a kino moment.

>join the explorer's guild!
>discover new things!
>bethesda are known for exploration!
>we're explorers!
>let's see what's out there!
>every single planet available has already been discovered and is populated

>>718063807
But you realise that if there was a point of interest every 30 seconds and 5 enenmies in between, it would be extremely far fetched for a distant unsettled planet in outter space.

>>718063251
That's the 2nd most retarded cope in gaming, right after "you can't expect new MMO to have content, WoW didn't have all that stuff at launch either".

>>718064040
kek

>>718064098
Then you make things out of nature or abandoned civilizations, anon. Out of fauna, out of anomalies, out of landscapes with hazards and natural resources.
Instead of nothing.

>>718064064
>nobody knows if Constellation really even exists!
>they own a huge loft in the United Colonies' capital two minutes away from the main square

>>718064098
Yeah but no one asked for this. How many people do you think would play a realistic cop simulator where you spend most of the game time idling on the side of a highway and pulling people over for speeding?

i'm tired of seeing >it's bad because soulless procgen slop!

procgen is not the problem, the problem is that bethesda have no fucking idea how to use it or how to make video games anymore. procgen isn't the reason they have like 6 prefabs available for planet gen. procgen isn't the reason they have like 4 planetary radiant quests of which 50% are broken. procgen isn't the reason they have like 7 POIs that have the same coffee cup beside the same named corpse across many planets

>>718046060 (OP)
>how to convince people to play our cosmic slop game?
>I know, we will spam threads on /v/ with a huge faggot as the OP

>>718064064
The Mass Effect Andromeda thread is two blocks down, Pathfinder friend. What's wrong with vidya writers?!

Anyone have the angry nog head interrupting a conversation then disappearing?

>>718063251
Meanwhile KSP has better exploration even though it literally is an empty game with nothing in it.

>>718063690
kek, this ones a keeper

>>718064064
>look at that weird giraffe i wonder if i'm the first person in this universe to see such a thing???
>oh wait there's a random pirate base there nevermind
>look at this weird alien looking temple that we had to find with a special unique satellite calibrated a particular way
>oh... there's old wartime installations that were built around it with pirates in them

>>718063251
Good point maybe space is a fucking boring setting

>>718064550
KSP actually has gameplay which is the problem with starfield, having no gameplay

>>718049705
Everything about the lore is fucking retarded. So many things that could have been interesting and would have unfolded entirely different in reality, but instead Bethesda went "hmm that isn't boring enough, make it less interesting"

if the rumors are true and they add interplanetary travel in "real time" how will it make sense in the lore? why would i fly from mars to europa when i could just grav jump?

>>718047989
cut at 5 seconds (when the abandoned outpost text appears, the camera snaps, the mountain range in the back on the right changes, the ground texture above the bottom left hud changes and the clouds move a lot to the left) but still hilarious that it can be seamlessly looped nonetheless

>>718064763
Interplanetary travel becomes like the pulse drive in No Man's Sky. No lore changes.

>>718063332
true
>>718063352
very true
>>718064550
true
>>718064624
trvth nvke

Bethesda not only chose a bad premise (or a difficult and ambitious one), but also executed it poorly.
I don't think the problem was there was nothing on barren planets, that's good actually, because it's expected from the setting and doing something opposite would be unimersive. Just like in the game already, because no matter where you land, you will find at least 3 man made structures either populated or abandoned in a few kilometer radius.

>>718063570
>I bought starfield because of this meme
>its so fucking trash i didn't even bother to play the expansion

fuck you faggot

>>718065131
>I was a retard and paid for my sins
Sounds about right.

Dei woke slop. It was actually funny how this released around the times of the cyberpunk rework and bg3. Playing those games and then starfield... Like god damn this game was extremely vanilla in comparison. No flavor no soul no edginess no risk taken whatsoever. Literally like eating boiled chicken with no seasoning

>>718047989
>every randomly generated dungeon is picked from a set of half a dozen, if not less
>dungeons and POIs have the exact same loot placements
>the same animals on one planet can be found on others, just with a different name
>forced to run massive distances around every planet, but everyone stopped playing by the time Bethesda changed their mind and added vehicles
They shouldn't have even bothered with Starfield. We might at least be halfway there to the next Elder Scrolls by now if it wasn't for this shit

>>718065642
>We might at least be halfway there to the next Elder Scrolls by now
Anon, TES6 would've released years ago. Fallout 4 was 2015.

i will never understand people who shit on bethesda and starfield while wishing for tes6 in the same breath

>>718063332
Fun Fact: No matter how much content Bethesda continues to add to Starfield to fill the void down the road, people are going to complain that it should have been in the game on release. Those people are a lost cause

>>718065837
A big issue with Starfield exists solely because of it being Starfield. Space game with an entire galaxy to explore so you get procgen slop. Modern setting so they need to design firearms when having no idea of how guns work or should look like for that matter. Brand new universe, first time for Bethesda in 25 years so the lore and worldbuilding is fucking boring.
TES has none of this shit. One Tamriel province with dungeons, lore people have invested themselves in for three decades, bunch of swords and shit. Done.

>>718065890
I mean... yeah. Maybe a game should be good and finished when it asks for money from consoomers. It didn't work for Cyberscam, it doesn't work for Slopfield

Game needs atleast 18 poi variations of each marker and "dungeon" and then it would be somewhat like older games they made. God knows why they thought 1 of each should suffice kek, even stranger is they never patched in more either

>>718046060 (OP)
>DUDE, EXPLORE THE SAME 1 SOLAR SYSTEM AN INFINITE NUMBER OF TIMES LMAO!
Nah, I'm good.

Captcha: OMGMY

>>718065987
i dunno, all signs point to tes6 being shit. no idea how anyone can be genuinely excited for it. i was cautiously optimistic for starfield after skyrim and fallout 4 despite their blatant shortcomings

>>718065131
>I bought starfield because of this meme

>>718065837
it's cope
plain and simple

>we built our game around NG+ and canonized multiple playthroughs!
>btw we scrapped fallout 4's faction interactions so they're all isolated stories you can do in one playthrough!
>no there's no reason to go into NG+ to see alternate paths because there aren't any! this is convenient for the player!

>>718065131
You purchased a game because of an ironic pajeet-vomit meme image on /v/? We're you dropped on your head as a baby?

>>718065837
Modders made all the previous elder scrolls games good so surely they won't fail
> captcha DMTT0

>>718066438
they will if the foundation is shit. is there any good reason to believe it won't be?

>>718066378
>NG+ resets the game
>Sometimes NG+ evil alt you mocks you by killing constellation
>NPCs are still essential for reasons

>>718064624
There are plenty of space games that are entertaining, Bethesda just managed to miss the mark hard.

>>718063739
yeah this is what pure randomness looks like, with zero artistically defined rules and a low amount of variety.

>>718063251
>People wanted believable outter space exploration

>>718064624
>>718066994
They could have made their "hard sci-fi" setting interesting if they had fully committed to it and gotten some actual sci-fi writers on board. If the quests of the game had actually delved into scientific and futuristic questions it could have been interesting, but now it's just a watered down Fallout in space.

>>718063420
>look 90% the same on the inside
Holy shit fucking this. Even Skyrim's samey Draugr caves weren't this bad.

>>718066378
Don't forget that the special NG+ options are...skipping a handful of fetch quests with dialogue options.

>>718067181
"Hard" sci fi as in, you become Spaceborn, reset the universe and gain magic space powers. It feels like a cope because they couldn't figure out how to generate cool planets.

Looks like they're doing some testing on both playstation and nintendo to see about porting Starfield to those systems. Playstation may have mod support (will likely be limited like it was for past Bethesda titles), Nintendo might not

>>718067317
I think the idea was that the more rare the magical stuff is, the more profound it's supposed to seem. Problem is, the whole game suffers as a mass-appeal video game because the realism doesn't conduct a fun gameplay environment and for mass-appeal approval, gameplay has to be absolutely solid

>>718046060 (OP)
Why should I play this shit when i can play X4

>>718068441
You can't have sex in X4. Starfield has 3 sex animation frameworks

>>718068159
Also, info for possible interplanetary travel being put into the game

>>718068551
The sex in X4 is being able to rape the economies of interstellar cultures.

>>718068557
It was already modded in

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/13175

this + POI mods turn it into a fun dungeon crawler, just don't engage with the written questlines and the game is salvageable

>>718068689
Some people are sadly too autistic to want to use mods for that. And this is more of a convenience for those who will probably not have access to mods too

>>718068793
https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/87ed0f82-039b-49e9-be84-4dc1827ccb0b/Astrogate

It's on Xbox too according to this, only snoys have to worry about limited mods.

>>718046060 (OP)
For what reason?
I played it when it launched, explored around for 20 or so hours, stumbled upon a planet that had a gigantic set piece battle; got through it for a locked door with no way to unlock it.

Turns out it was the second last mission of the game and the climax of the story. So I deleted the game then an there.

I didnt think the game would be as bad as everyone said, but i couldnt play it for longer than ~40 minutes, however long it took me to get to the first city.
It was so fucking ass and tutorial planet had POI spawned near where you start so i thought i see what is it, 5 minute walk and its just some rocks, cant rememer if i could even collect them, so 5minute walk back, and i was done.
Things that "impressed me" were how introduction was literally "go take the spaceship, you own it now, go go go awayyy" after we didn't even really get introduced to mining company to begin with. And the other is melee - fucking space pirates attacked me with space axes, i just could see bethesda looking at fallout 4 animations and thinking "we can just reuse melee animations and it will be cheap and easy padding". Making 3 more guns would be too much work i guess.

if only starfield was as good as fallout 4 or 3, but its worse than that, holy shit bethesda has no talent working at the company anymore

>>718046060 (OP)
I seriously hope none of you niggers are unironically playing vanilla Starfield and not a wabbajack curated list like Melius or NASApunk. Mods fix what over half the people in this thread are bitching about

>>718068159
>Nintendo might not
I expect the Switch 2 to receive the official creations because they're already curated and follow their guidelines, but yeah, no Schlongs of Starfield for Miyamoto.

>>718069394
I seriously hope none of you niggers are unironically playing Starfield, period

>>718054830
They arent generating income so there is nothing to be done

>>718068551
wow I can have e-sex with ugly-ass low-quality abo niggers??? GOTY

>>718069847
>when the hate for this game is so strong that people genuinely get upset over you playing it
kek

>>718068159
Ninty should ask for a huge license fee for getting on Switch 2. Game is utter shit and I doubt it's going to move a single console for Nintendo.

>>718065837
I don't see Elder scrolls 6 taking any risk or being good after how safe and boring Starfield was. If anything people can just mod Elder scrolls 6 even though Starfield and Fallout 4 were terrible. I think Starfield would get less shit for being mediocre trash if Bethesda could make games faster.

>>718070715
and also has a terrible reputation. Zero people say "I was thinking of getting a Switch 2 and STARFIELD sealed the deal". Microsoft ware already giving the fucking thing away for free, bringing it to Switch 2 so people can pay for it is just insulting.

Play Underspace instead

>>718072905
>another early access slop
>released april 24
>how long until full release? - A year
>august 25
>patchnotes just full of le hecking chonker cat pictures
Yea see you in 2030 maybe.

>>718072905
reddit game

>>718072905
did they get rid of the 1980's high fantasy bgm?

>>718054830
The Star Wars IP is not doing well enough for them to care about enforcing copyright. Matter of fact, the last time I can think of where somebody got in trouble for even parodying it iirc was the Star Ballz toon porn movie.

>>718068220
I think if they actually committed to a hard sci fi setting (or as hard as you can for vidya) then they could've made an interesting survival game with that, but Bethesda and making the player commit to hard choices don't go together, whether in gameplay or in the story.

>>718046060 (OP)
Honestly, i'm really not that into space games, even if it's made by mythical epic badass uber dev bethesda..

>>718063251
Starfield isn't anything even remotely close to "believable outer space exploration." It's a fucking walking simulator with intermittent combat segments. There's no risk, resources to manage, equipment to learn to use, or problems to solve. Driving to a to a park in a major city past 6pm and safely walking through it is 100 times more demanding and dangerous than Bethesda's rendition of space flight and exploration.

>>718073717
No, but the radio is now fully customable

>>718061961
Bro...

>>718064386
If euro truck simulator2 can exist, so can that game.

>>718069394
I simply don't believe that mods could fix a game when the base foundation is that awful. Like, I can't stomach playing vanilla Rimworld anymore, but that's not because I didn't enjoy vanilla Rimworld. It's because I know how much mods can improve it.
For Starfield, however, I can't stomach playing the base game because it's a bad game. There has never existed a fundamentally bad game that was forcibly made into a good one through modding.

>>718075683
Its a bad game underneath it all but you can glean some entertainment from it if you think of it as an existential horror game

>>718074867
Ah, if only actually going outside was believable with the people here

>>718075683
See, I don't see it as that fundamentally flawed. But I also enjoyed Fallout 4 for what it was, so maybe we have very different tastes.

Starfields biggest problems are loading times, a lot of useless or not working shit, a completely unacceptably small variety of POIs, and some questionable aesthetic and tone choices. A lot, almost all, the other problems with it could be leveled at Skyrim or Fallout 3. Like bad story and a complete lack of scale.
The biggest issue, the one that hampers enjoyment of the whole game is variety of POIs and quests. You get sent to the same 10 or so outposts repeatedly, with maybe 15 unique ones splashed in during key quests. And that, theoretically could have been solved with modding. Except that would be a lot of work, work on a game that came out mediocre and a lot of people didn't like, all for free. The base needed to have a certain amount of quality for people to throw themselves into modding it, and it just didn't get there.

>>718074867
Largely because they added absolutely nothing in space to deal with.
The ship building is fun. But ultimately you are building a fast travel machine.

Starfield is good because it's the only space game out there that actually tries to be serious. Everything else is Reddit - quirky and colorful with goofy looking characters.

>>718046060 (OP)
Base Starfield is pretty ass but that Watchtower mod is actually kinda fucking kino.

>>718046060 (OP)
No, it's awful and it took the development time from Elder Scrolls.

Todd Howard was right all along

You didn't like Starfield cause it was just too different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkTksYzHGmM&t=2268s&pp=ygURc3RhcmZpZWxkIGxpbWluYWw%3D

>>718070848
TES6 has the benefit of being in Bethesda's "wheelhouse". Ie they can just copy the Skyrim format and it will at least sell okay. Starfield was too far from the Skyrim format, they tried too many things they couldn't do on a technical level with their aging engine. With TES6 they'll go back to what they have done in the past and just print out a regular curated open world with POIs all over the place.

It will be Skyrim 2, but for a lot of people, thats all they want.

All they had to do was make fallout in space. Why'd they go for 1000 empty planets instead of making like 8? They wouldn't have even had to put in that much effort, just make 1 planet the size of a normal fallout game while the other 7 could be dlc sized.

>>718047989
This pisses me off. Daggerfall had actual semi-randomized dungeons while in 2023 Bethesda regressed to exact copy pastes. You'd think that modular space habs would be easy to set up for a randomized tile-based system.

Swen won.

>>718077395
Looks cool, just the right amount of new additions
...
paid mod

Fuckem

Watchtower should have been part of the base game tbqh

>>718077452
I'm fucking dying. This man is doing a one-man circus performance trying to portray Bethesda's laziness and ineptitude as having intention and meaning.

>>718068767
Do you have any recs for POI mods? More variety in things I can discover would help the game a lot. I don't get why there are only like twelve dungeons that are reused for both handcrafted quests and radiant ones. More mission types sounds like fun too. I don't really care about the main story and ng+ too much as losing bases over and over again sounds like a hassle.

>>718077968
It could fix the entire game, I still wouldn't buy a mod.
The entire project could fold tomorrow and never function again and I would have absolutely zero recourse.
Sim Settlements for Fo4 is even more ambitious and a free mod. Who the hell do these guys think they are charging for a mod for a less popular game?
I wouldn't be surprised if they were on Bethesda's payroll to normalize paying for mods

>>718078387
I only grabbed it because of the free creation credits they gave everyone. Honestly the CC mods except for it are worthless so I'm not too worried about more lame reskins being charged for.

>>718077395
As was Bards College Expansion. Feels like Todd should just let Kinggath make his games for him.

>>718046060 (OP)
already did. waiting for the new dlc.

>>718046060 (OP)
>starfield starts posting white guys
yup, we're going to war

>>718072905
Still can't believe the trainman pulled it off.

>>718080198
>Sabotages Starfield so his own game will look better by comparison

>>718063251
Interesting rocks, some alien looking rocky formations, different types of soil, I don't know, some creativity.
They added fucking randomized alien fauna, the argument of being faithfull to reality is defacto null.
Also, the flora is abysmal.

>>718080706
Starfield didn't need help to be shit.

>>718047989
>idiots are actually falling for this
Christ, i know /v/ is full of some of the dumbest motherfuckers alive, but god damn

>>718083774
how do i make my skyrim look like this

>>718083843
oh wait wtf this is the starfield thread

>>718083843
Good luck doing so without tanking your performance

>>718046060 (OP)
no shartfield for you saar

>>718077869
This is true. In 98% of cases for this game, I can't help but agree that paid mods are fucking awful. That said, I got the premium edition of Starfield as a pack-in when I bought my CPU while building my PC in 2023, and the premium version of the game came with the DLC and then eventually gave me just enough of the mtx currency to buy the DLC. So it worked out really well for me and I don't think that's a common thing at all probably.

I did, a lot, for a while. I wanted to love it, there was so much going for it. But it was ultimately 1000 miles wide and 2 inches deep. I kept thinking maybe I'll find something else in this game that is interesting, something that would make me want to keep playing. But other than 1 or 2 unique quests, there's just nothing there, and so many obvious design miss steps that it honestly baffles me that they overlooked. One day I just turned it off, and I've never felt the need to reload it again.

Some of these are from a mod btw

>>718080198
The secret to making a good space game is to just steal from Freelancer wholesale.

Starfield is a terrible game in all directions. It is the most soulless game ever produced by the gaming industry.

>>718084427
No, that's still Dustborn.

>>718084292
It's dumb to me that Starfield didn't ape more from that game.

>>718084139
The issue is the lack of regulation on the paid mods so absolute fucking bottom of the barrel shit is given the OK by Bethesda. Back in the Creation Club days they couldn't use any master assets that weren't part of the base game which is why none of the CC content for either F4 or Skyrim had voiced lines and every NPC was like "here read this seven paragraph long note". That restriction's lifted with Verified Creations which is why you get stuff like Watchtower or Bards College Expansion or Coven of Crones but now the issue is that for every one of those actually good mods that would very well deserve to be official canon, you get a dozen pic related. Creation Club as it came out was a mistake. Verified Creations as it exists with essentially zero supervision is a mistake. If the CC launched with things like the TES Blades armors having been one big bundle instead of nickel-and-dimed and charging like, one buck for all fifteen of them and *then* having big expansion-tier additions like Bards College Expansion fairly priced and *voiced* and shit, the whole system would be seen differently. It'd be fairly priced, well implemented (instead of reading a bunch of fucking notes from mute NPCs), actual good additions that would feel like semi-official new DLCs akin to Heartfire or a smaller Dawnguard. Instead we got... ten Pip-Boy paintjobs for five bucks and two dozen weapons for fifty dollars (not even fucking joking, go look up the price for the F4 Creation Club, holy shit)

>>718085131
Apparently it did something where it went from like 20 people that had to go through a process to 120 people with no vetting process.

>>718053367
skyrim can absolutely be fixed with mods
it may not be the perfect fantasy RPG you're looking for but it can still be a fun game
F4's quality is really just dependent on what you want out of the game, but if you want a looter shooter with base building it's definitely better than starfield at that
starfield has no significant mods because the vanilla game is so shit and boring that nobody cares enough to put effort into it

>>718046060 (OP)
'no'

>>718073114
Full release is coming together with Onirism and Peripeteia

>>718085684
>with Onirism and Peripeteia
So never

>>718063251
>People wanted believable outter space exploration
Even if people wanted this, what in the fuck made BETHESDA think anybody wanted it from them? They make RPGs. More realistically, they make TES and Fallout RPGs because that's what people want from them. I give them a modicum of respect for trying something new but holy fuck their execution was bad.
Also, going for the realism angle is just stupid anyway. 99% of the population in starfield consists of bandits and laser weapons are a sci-fi meme, among many other problems.

>>718065837
My hope is that it will be only marginally worse than Skyrim.
But the main reason shartfield is so fucking bad is that it is BORING. The setting (what little there is) is boring, the characters are boring, the planets are boring, the gameplay is boring and the dialogue is boring. This is actually a worse sin than it being egregiously bad because at least then it's entertaining in a different way, like Oblivion. Any TES or Fallout game at least has the benefit of relying on the existing setting. Try to imagine Fallout 4 without all of Fallout's existing lore to remind you "this series used to be good".
Even if TESVI is overall not a very good game it will still be set in a universe which - at one point - had decent writing. All they have to do is avoid bringing up ESO fanfiction too often and avoid having too many women on the writing team. I'd also prefer if they gave Emil an injection of sodium thiopental but we can't have everything.

>>718085218
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Look at this dude for example, XilaMonstrr. Nine mods, every single one of them being:
>what if vanilla armor but recolored?!
And charging two bucks per armor. For a shitty low effort mod that could've existed back in 2012. Players aren't dumb, but they aren't heartless either. Had the CC been good from the start, the idea of paying for a worthwhile experience the same way you buy DLCs would've landed. After the initial backlash, the prevailing narrative would've been that you'd get good bang for your buck. It would've been a standard set by new Falskaars and Beyond Skyrim Brumas and Sirenroots and Moonpath to Elsweyrs and Helgen Reborns. But no, we get recolored 2011 armors paid with real money.

>>718086651
There's some decent stuff there from known people like trainwiz and kinggath but yeah, there's a bunch of awful shit from total nobodies and it makes no sense.

>>718083602
Gobi desert
>>718083713
SoCal
>>718083774
Tennessee

None of this shit looks remotely alien. It's only "grounded" because it's taken straight from actual reality.

>>718087469
It's nice to have some familiarity

boring fucking game. theres some interesting set pieces but then you see them copy and pasted in completely different solar systems over and over.

>>718078301
I haven't looked in a while but the author of the mod I linked made one, there might be a nexus collection.

>>718084170
you weren't able to enjoy it because you kept reading hater posts by fags who never played the game in the first place, and that ruined it for you

>>718046060 (OP)
genuine question, why isn’t there alien people?

The most boring sci-fi setting ever created. Final proof if it wasn't obvious already that whoever at Bethesda had any imagination left years ago.

This game is a fucked up piece of shit that requires mods.
But the engine is irreparably dysfunctional.

I have a 5080, 9950x3d, good quality gen 4 SSD and this fucking piece of shit game stutters CONSTANTLY in the open world.
Every time it loads new shrubs or whatever while going around the world it stutters and they pop in.
low settings, ultra+ settings, it doesnt matter

the game is just jeetware and we need to kill every single indian on earth

>>718088398
Because it's a grounded NASApunk universe, chud (please ignore the alternate universes and not!Shouts)

>>718088858
seethe harder jeet your 3rd world shitware cant play starfield lmao

>>718089373
>>718089287
>>718089183
mentally ill shitskin tranny spammer

The fact that starfield still gets regular threads everyday on /v/ says a lot about how important making games with passion and soul is. One of the best games of the generation.

>>718089467
Well hey, somebody's gotta show off that they're getting some enjoyment out of this game, can't have the entire thread just be an angry hivemind

loading screen simulator
zero innovation, stuck in the past
bethesda and todd are washed up

Could you mod Starfield into TES?

>>718086257
Why does he have his boots on? Doesn't seem very relaxing.

>>718090079
Starfield took a lot of risks though, the fact that it tried to do so much is admirable.

One of the things Starfield could definitely stand to improve on in the future is how enemies react to you.

>>718080198
I miss /v/lancer

Game would be fine if the quests and writing weren't hot dogshit

>>718065642
TES6 would be about 5 years old by now if it wasn't for Starfield

>>718090719
It'll come back with Underspace's multiplayer

>>718073976
the problem with IP laws is that you have to make a consistent effort to defend it, otherwise you can lose it

fake thread sustained by one psychotic nigger tranny

>>718091171
It's just not the same without the casual racism.

>>718093330
Regular nigger here, not really. I'm the one dumping the webms starting with >>718083602, but most of the anons in this thread aren't me.

>>718047989
>make a game about randomly generated planets with POIs slapped around
>only make like, 4 POIs
What the?

>>718063570
>>718063660
>>718063713
kek

>>718094618
There's a lot more, they just don't spawn for whatever reason. Not a lot lot more, but it's something like a pathetic 30 versus a really pathetic 4.

>>718046060 (OP)
>ugly as fuck
>no sentient alien races to meet
>shitty POIs
Bravo Todd, glad TES was on the backburner to make this piece of shit
But then again I wouldn't have hope for another good Bethesda TES either

i love gigachad memes so much, whoever posted that i love you

also did todd optimize the game? i doubt my rx 6600 can even get 10 fps

>>718056702
>they would've had multiple employees, and testers I'm assuming, catch it.
starfield was an experiment is offloading the entire dev process to jeet "studios"

Good morning sirs.

>>718094916
There's 150+ radiant POIs with some being exclusive to certain biomes, you're not going to find them also generating in the same place. The reason >>718047989 came across the same one over and over is because Bethesda did not properly implement a cooldown system at the time. By default, this game is supposed to only recycle these POIs every 2 in game days.

Why didn't they just have an Everspace 2 style traveling system for ships instead

>>718095836
Even more baffling, why not have an Elite Dangerous style system? They copied the rest of Elite's controls.

>>718095836
Already a thing thanks to the Astrogate mod

>>718096251
Doesn't work correctly, sad to say.

>>718096251
This looks worse than Eve Online which released 20 fucking years ago

>>718096308
>>718096449
Mod is still a work in progress, so don't expect it to be perfect. There seems to be a 3rd person patch to fix that camera issue, let me install it see about recording a different webm for it

>>718096576
It still probably won't work right. You can speed the ship up to travel to individual areas but it wont' spawn NPCs or anything.

>>718046060 (OP)
Dead game

Even the community patch is abandoned lol

>>718096734
The mod as of the current version loads into the planet's orbit as you approach it which iirc does also load the random space encounters too

>>718096783
Reminder Todd said Starfield was designed to be played for a decade. Because of course forcing such a thing instead of it happening organically like with Skyrim had no chance of backfiring.

>>718096934
Oh, that's good at least.

>>718095836
That's coming with the next patch.

>>718096972
Another forum I frequent has a guy that trolls every Xbox thread by spamming Starfield shit and talking about how Xbox doesn't even need new games because there's 10 years of content in Starfield. He's dedicated and gives every single thread an awkward tension between people who want to disagree with him and people who want to support Xbox. It's grand, I wish I thought of it first.

>>718096576
Yeah this is definitely not perfect

>>718097302
Actually I might have been partially wrong about that. I know the ship loads into a new area when using the autopilot, but I'm not so sure about manually flying the ship into another planet's orbit yet

>>718096783
It's shocking how poorly MS games perform on Steam. They can't honestly think that porting to PS is a good idea. Look at how their games stack up to a 10 year old Souls game or the OG EOL Skyrim. How can you look at that and think, "We should dilute our brand to capture HUNDREDS of sales on a competitor's platform"?

>>718098503
Sony fanboys have literally been nagging Bethesda to put this game on PlayStation despite the negative reception, and honestly the game is doing a whole lot better on Xbox than it is on Steam. Safe to say this game's market is effectively on consoles, probably ended up being a bigger waste of time to put it on PC even though I'm glad they did.

Why does Bethesda go out of their way to make everything so boring? Can't they see that the mass audiences they pursue so fanatically actually like weird shit?

>>718099430
It's the same reason why you left the keys upon the table

>>718099430
They need to let Kirkbride write weird shit for a couple months then actually keep 50% of it in-game compared with the usual, like... 3%? Ever since Oblivion

>>718046060 (OP)
Is TESVI really going to be made on this engine?
Starfield already looked dated when it came out. VI will look like a fucking fossil

>>718100745
1060 bros, there's hope...

>>718100745
It's the same engine as their previous games but improved. God forbid they go all the way in with UE5 instead of using it as a graphics wrapper like they did with the Oblivion Remaster

>>718100516
Temper. Kirkbride wrote the lore for the most soulless and forgettable game of 2024, the year full of soulless forgettable games. Emil should quit but there's no reason to think getting the band back together would make another Morrowind.

>>718095152
Grab a 2K or less downscaled texture mod and optimization ini on nexus. I got 60fps with fsr on rx580. I've had any crash or game breaking bugs like beth old games.

>>718101594
Wasn't Will Shen hyped up after he made Far Harbor? Whatever happened there?

>>718102917
A lot of the quests in Starfield have his signature elements in them.
The problem is the entire setting is just boring. It permeates everything and no matter how many alternate ways of tackling things or skillchecks are there it just ends up being a bland setting.

>>718072905
Already did. Waiting for 1.0.

I know people will call me a jeet
but at least I beat starfield like billions years ago while couldn't even get into bg3 act2
shit's cringeness level was insane

>>718064098
>Game is boring and tedious becase it makes sense

>>718104007
To be honest, I don't think too many people cared about BG3 all that much outside of the romance. I haven't even played it yet, but from what I've seen of the fandom, the experience is on par with watching InuYasha.

>>718063570
jeet has a point, bg3's ''''''''''''''''''writing'''''''''''''''''' almost felt like an insult to humanity's collective intelligence while slopfield was just jeetgpt

>>718104613
Inuyasha has good writing thoughbeit

All they need is Bioware style big chungus autistic waifu to bait braindead npcs + actual competant dlc like Phantom Liberty but of course they won't do shit, Bethesda is genuinely too old

>>718104007
sci-fi armor sexo

>>718046060 (OP)
Sorry, In prefer playing games with actual content, rather than broken janky Bethesda slop.

>>718105348
You're more than likely going to get that through a mod rather than an official implementation

>>718096783
>More popular than Troon Vegas
Xisters I don't feel so good

>>718096783
I'm glad Rise of the Ronin still has some players, it had a rather rough launch on Steam too.

I still can't believe there less than 10 melee weapons and they're LITERALLY all shit you can find in a current year hardware store, what the FUCK

I always end up quitting when I get the same POI 3 times in quick succession. I'm not as pissed that the game is shit since it's Bethesda so of course it's shit, but I am pissed that mods couldn't save it. There's some GOOD shit in the game under the piling shit that is the majority of the game. I'll be pissed if they never make a proper sequel or remake that fixes all the bullshit this game has.
>>718104007
I won't call you a jeet, but I will say you have shit taste in vidya.

>>718109394
There's a mod to fix that tho

>>718109394
Get the following if you want to diversify your POI experience
https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/ItsmePaulieB/mods?gameId=4187
https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/kaosnyrb/mods?gameId=4187
https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/09c0e0d0-9ec4-4156-bd80-94b6f1abbcf5/Forgotten_Frontiers___POI_Expansion
https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/7f72bf67-5caa-4866-af3b-76b77be14c22/Forgotten_Frontiers_2___POI_Expansion

>>718067085
Considering how many anons here cry out for the ability to fly between planets, yeah they do

>>718109528
>>718110106
I'll check them out next time I try the game.

The gun was particularly fun to use though, I admit. Magshear is particularly novel and new.

>>718109394
stfu lariantranny

>>718110106
>paid
Man

>>718114023
Look around, I'm sure pirates have shared them around by now

>>718072905
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1111930/Underspace/
>screenshot 2
What am I looking at here? A giant man?

I wonder how many more people are playing Starfield because of these relentless shill threads? Gotta be a couple hundred at least, wouldn't you say?

>>718115859
From what I can see, about 248 anons have hopped on to the game

>>718114420
Yeah, it's part of a quest where you get trapped on an otherworldly space prison by the chaos god of imprisonment and have to solve puzzles to escape.

>>718066378
>core of the game is building settlements, customizing your ship and getting legendary loot
>oh and btw you can't bring any of these with you in NG+

>>718065131
>>I bought starfield because of this meme

>>718068662
>The sex in X4 is being able to rape the economies of interstellar cultures.
Lel

>>718111430
Which is never, right

>>718115859
People are finding out that starfield is actually a great game in a year full of slop releases.

>>718096783
>Avowed
Brutal

>>718114420
Its space Morrowind. It goes to some weird places.

>>718120736
Space daggerfall, you mean. And it's not even good.

>>718120905
You're confusing it with another game, daggerfall is all procedural, underspace is all handmade and it's literally by a morrowind mod maker

>>718063570
>>718063660
>>718063753
I love these memes so fucking much. I hope whoever makes them never stops.

>>718120905
That's Elite Dangerous.

Wish the perk system wasn’t tedious garbage levelling up the perk to have more storage space was aids

>>718121402
The challenge system is beyond retarded and gatekeeps the player in infuriating ways

>Remove the Starborn shit and actually do hard sci-fi, or lean fully into fantasy sci-fi like Mass Effect / Star Wars
>Downsize the game to take place in one system with 7-8 planets, each filled with handcrafted settlements, quests and NPCs, instead of 1000 planets with 99% of them being entirely proc-gen slop that provide no incentive whatsoever to explore.
>Allow for actual space travel between planets, with handcrafted POIs (space stations, derelict ships, fleet staging areas etc...) to explore and discover new quests / content. HARDMODE: include seamless transition from ground to space
>Set the game during the colony war with giant robots and xenomorph bio weapons, instead of just alluding to it and blue balling players
>Include more companions that aren't moralfag constellation members
There. I fixed the game. It's still bizarre to me that Bethesda took the strongest aspect of their RPGs, being the sense of adventure through organic exploration, and shat all over it by making a loading screen simulator filled with barren worlds outside of a few hub zones.

>>718095573
Many of those POIs are not buildings or even caves. It's mostly meaningless geographic features like large rocks, domed craters, tiny oases, geysers, clusters of weird fungal growths. And they make exploration much worse, because you come across them and realize that the whole landscape should constitute of these things, seamlessly blended.

Last AAA title I ever bought. Never again.

>>718121970
thats really the issue isnt it
the game was flawed from the design stage
the worst kind of game they as a studio could have made

>>718048862
Status report: drunk wizards caught, guars killed, pay non existent, promotions never, overcast and foggy outside for MAXIMUM WIZARD INVESTIGATION KINO

>>718123260
Yea, it really is just such a stupid decision and I wonder what the driving forces were to make them go forward with it. So much of my time spent in the scrolls games are saves where I never get close to beating the main story, and just spent a ton of time wandering around the world finding different cities, dungeons and quest givers. There's probably a considerable amount of interesting content I've never seen in those games after hundreds of hours. In fallout 3 I remember dropping what I was doing to explore the metro tunnels for like 4-5 hours, with quite a few of the stations having their own related quest chains, exiting out to nearby settlements and places to find other pieces of handcrafted content.

Starfield just takes this loop, where you're going from point A to point B, but suddenly you get sidetracked at Point C, which introduces quests that lead to Points E,F,G, etc... and completely shits all over it. Unless you enjoy meaningless proc gen POIs with nameless NPCs, there is ZERO reason to go to probably 990-995 of the 1000 planets unless a quest you receive at one of the hub zones instructs you to. And even then, those quests usually involve you just clearing some proc-gen POI that has now been triggered to have some sort of item / NPC spawn at the end.

It really sucks since bid budget space RPGs seem much harder to come by compared to fantasy stuff, and I think the game could have been on the same level of Skyrim if they just didn't go full retard mode with the proc gen and loading screens. Oh well.

>>718121970
100% nailed it. It legitimately feels like they sat down, heard people liked Skyrim and No Man’s Sky, and then Frankenstein’d together the worst implementation of both. Thousands of empty rocks with some mineral deposits and a single reused outpost don't make for compelling exploration. It's the illusion of scale without any soul.

And god yeah, the Starborn stuff is just dull. Bethesda has this obsession with trying to be cryptic and mysterious but forgot to make any of it interesting. Colony War sounded like peak kino material-actual factions, moral ambiguity, and lore with grit. But nope. You get some logs and off-screen nonsense while being forced into Constellation’s “Power of Friendship” arc.

Also, biggest missed opportunity? Let me be a fucking pirate warlord with my own ship crew and fleet. Let me strong-arm factions, raid cargo lanes, get bounties on my head and fight navy patrols. Instead, I’m stuck listening to Barrett babble about space philosophy. Why are they like this?

>>718046060 (OP)
Game needed to focus much more on survival
Not just eating and drinking, but make the planets much more hostile
Even then there would need to be actual reasons to visit the various planets

>>718063379
I loved the Mako.

>>718126578
>And god yeah, the Starborn stuff is just dull. Bethesda has this obsession with trying to be cryptic and mysterious but forgot to make any of it interesting. Colony War sounded like peak kino material-actual factions, moral ambiguity, and lore with grit. But nope. You get some logs and off-screen nonsense while being forced into Constellation’s “Power of Friendship” arc.
it really feels like a setting made by people that have no love for the genre

>>718084292
It really is honestly that simple. A modern Freelancer embracing more arcadey flight over sim bullshit would be wonderful.

>>718072905
How is Underspace? I got midway through freelancer but felt like it was kind of boring between story missions when you're expected to just do generic copy paste missions until you have enjoy $ to progress.

>>718129556
Freelancer definitely lags a bit when you're just running bullshit but I suggest powering through it because some of the later story sequences are pretty cool and worth it.

>>718129653
I'll have to give it another go. My drive with it got corrupted and I lost my save file. I think I was midway through mission 4. I just remember having to escape after you meet some doctor at a science station and then he stays behind when some military guys show up to try and kill you.

>>718129935
It's been a while so I barely remember any specifics honestly. Sounds like that's when you enter German space or whatever? I liked that mission a lot myself but I also burnt out on my first playthrough around there from side mission stuff.

I should replay it.

>>718118652
There's absolutely no reason to build settlement structures in Starfield. It's also very clunky and obnoxious to do. I tried to build, but it was just so shit I gave up on it. Either the Gamebryo Engine is too antique a piece of shit to do what Todd wants to do with it, or Todd's army of jeet devs don't understand the half-baked ideas Todd comes up with and tells them to implement.
Customizing your spaceships is clunky. Really you want to just use mods since your ships will never LOOK cool, but there's a Star Wars Star Destroyer mod or a Star Trek Enterprise mod or even a Gundam mod for that.

I did play Starfield. I beat it 4 times (albeit, after the first time you can just immediately go for the pieces of the starfield thing and do it all over again)

>>718129556
It's made by the same modder that did /v/lancer, so it improves on a lot of Freelancer stuff. There's a bunch of side quests and storylines unrelated to the main story and a bunch of side activities like bounty hunting and housing
The generic missions also have more a lot more variety, but they're still really basic

>>718063251
Look at No Mans Sky retard

>>718129556
It fixes a lot of Freelancers problems but runs like shit and has no voice acting. It's also really fucking weird but in a good way. Space Morrowind is a good comparison

>>718083813
You're fucking dumb, this is common.

>>718121970
>just make a different game
wow you're really smart

>>718056702
Shit-tier proc-gen with not enough assets to go around. They legit need to double the number of random "things" that show up on maps.

>>718129167
>it really feels like a setting made by people that have no love for the genre
I think its more that there were people who love the genre, a very particular implementation of frontier scifi that isn't very popular right now, but most of them were not on the main writing team. So they gave a lot of broad strokes ideas and then the actual implementation failed because the people writing and designing the actual game didn't like what they were working on.
Combine that with design by committee bullshit that clearly toned down and made a lot of stuff "safe", so as to offend and alienate as few people as possible

>>718130052
There is one reason to build a settlement.
The large ship landing pad has access to (almost) every ship part in the game. There's a few specialist parts that are only available from their respective vendors but the vast majority can be bought from there.
>eally you want to just use mods since your ships will never LOOK cool
Sounds either like a skill issue or you don't like the aesthetic they were going for.
I personally DO like the used future aesthetic, so I could spend hours tinkering with building ships. Not much else Starfield has going for it, but the ship building is kino.