Thread 718073848

Ai, but you'll get a lot of psychos hating you for using it so make sure all your personal info is as far away from your game career as possible.

>>718073848 (OP)
Is anyone the opposite and just likes doing the work and implementing ideas? I like programming and the math behind it but I don’t have ideas I’m like Carmack style.

If it was worth a million dollars then getting investors shouldn't be that hard

>>718073934
/thread

Ideas are just the beginning of sweat equity.
Make a game you lazy fuck OP, even if it's dogshit to begin with just get your ass in gear and start working on it.

>>718074140
He has no excuse with AI, it writes the code for you.

>>718074069
Well, we haven't had worthy successor to Dungeon Keeper in ages, so you can work on that.

>Have a million dollar but no idea
feels badman!

>>718074192
This, just look at... uh...

>>718074362
Expedition 33 which was made on UE5 with heavy usage of llms

>>718073934
Fippy bippy

>>718074429
Oh really?

>>718073848 (OP)
Ideas are worthless

>>718074429
Are you the indian that spammed his shitry "chatgpt totally made the story you guys!"

Even if you had the budget, I doubt you would have the know-how to manage it. Having a cool idea is worth jack shit without the skills that you can apply to make it real.
Game design, mechanics, gameplay, level design, quality assurance, scriptwriting, art, sound, voice acting, trailer editing, release scheduling, server configuration, business registration.
If you hire people you'll have to account for sickness and holidays, as well knowing how to hire the right people with the right skills.
If you get the budget, you're a slave to stakeholders and publishers and their whims and the idea suddenly will stop being yours and belongs to them.
Learn to code.

>>718073934
mine legitimately are.
>>718073848 (OP)
same.
>>718074110
wont work. the platform is intended to be hardened against publicly traded companies, and therefore if I were to recieve investment I couldn't promise any real return or stake in the product. Even if I told someone who believed in my idea as well, it wouldn't change the fact that I couldnt promise payment and so the only options are:
Angel investment from someone who just wants to see anons create games
Wage cage for me to produce capital needed to develop more of my game.

>>718074429
Source?

I love being technical-minded with 0 creativity
Shit is so cash

>>718073848 (OP)
>indie dev or small group of devs are sitting on a million dollar idea
>they wont do shit with it
it fucking sucks more than being the idea guy

>>718074450
I would argue that GOOD ideas guys are unironically one of the most important people in making a good game that stands out, the problem is that most fags that call themselves the ideas guy are genuine retards who can only think like "dude... it's like Dark Souls but uh it has guns"

>>718073848 (OP)
single people can make games using asset flips and UE. you dont need money.

>>718074736
Already been made. You can't even make fun of idea guys correctly

>>718074550
>if you get the budget you are a slave to stakeholders and publishers
this is the reason I posted >>718074595
because I am never going to do that. my game will not succeed as intended in that kind of environment. the game absolutely needs to be free from the grip of publisher ownership or investment return. the moment I acquiesce to this shit is the moment my game idea goes from multi million dollar idea to several thousand dollar idea.

>>718074663
Im the opposite and I fucking hate it. im good with efficiency and creating work algorithms though, just not with details, i hate details (and accounting especially)

>>718074819
OK? I wasn't talking to you.

>>718074884
>um excuse me you aren't allowed to reply to my post in this discussion
>>>/reddit/.

>>718074928
>um you must be from reddit because all the other anons tell people who disagree with them to go there so i'll just do that to pretend i'm not a raging newfag

>>>/rope/

>>718073848 (OP)
The problem is that you need people to keep the ideas guy in line. Not many people have a 100% good idea especially if it's big budget.

>>718074778
Don't know what game you must be talking about, clearly it was very influential and successful

>>718073848 (OP)
make a proof of concept in SoM or TES Construction Kit or another easy retro game maker software

>>718073848 (OP)
does your game idea involve technical details, a storyboard, pages of design, a complete project?
or is your game idea "its Mario combined with Call of Duty!"

>>718075057
>um you cant just tell me to go away if I don't want people to reply to me so heres a bunch of schizobabble I made up in my head to keep me from feeling bad about being a huge gaping anal homo.

>>718073848 (OP)
>I want someone to make "my game" for me and then I take all the credit
doesn't work like that

>>718075306
Todd Howard says hi

>>718075341
Todd howard actually worked on his games, which is part of the reason they're so shit

>>718073848 (OP)
Ideas are the most important thing but there is 99.9999% probability that your ideas are shit and not as good as you think, if you don't have the skills or experience to implement them. It's easy to think an untested idea is "good". All ideas sound good until you DO something with it. Reality often exposes why they are not so good.

>>718075306
honestly i wouldn't care as long as they did everything i said in terms of the payment and ownership structure of it. thing is though nobody is going to do that because it would mean they couldnt squeeze the profits like a lemon. I'm not really a good face, but I am committed to the process and identity of the game. someone who was solely motivated by credit and money wouldnt be able to release the game under the conditions needed for its success.

>>718075110
>nigger hasn't heard of Remnant

>>718073848 (OP)
if only there were rich organizations who you could borrow money off, that would be so awesome.

>>718073848 (OP)
...one million dollars? That's what your idea would get?
Triple A games have budgets of 200 million dollars

>>718075770
>Triple A
ok zoomie

To be honest everything about Remnant is really mediocre, plus one of the devs is a schizo who used to shit on the players and ban them from steam forums for negative reviews.

>>718075874
Literally doesn't matter, the point is that there's a well-known game already

>>718075802
???

>>718075770
>tripple A
dogshit.
If you gave me that budget I would just save it for making future games.

>>718075962
>>718073848 (OP)
Money only dictates the production value of a game. Lower the production value and you can do anything for $0.
>I needed that money for people who do the work!
In that case your idea sucked anyway because without knowing the inner workings of programming, modeling, and animation you can't come up with jack shit, weebtard

>>718076147
your word salad doesn't magically make sense when you cram 3 unrelated sentences together.

>>718075940
>zoomie has literally never heard of indie games

>>718076282
>1 mil dollar budget
>indie game

>>718076230
misquote?

>>718076403
no. but maybe you misquoted me if you keep magically insisting the shit you are spewing makes any kind of sense.

>>718076320
>budget
Nigger do you think a 1 million dollar idea is an idea that will require 1 million dollars to make?

>>718073848 (OP)
>have an idea for a cool mechanic I could base the game around
>no idea about everything else, like plot, characters, levels, gameplay loop and progression etc
I should just stick to shaders instead of branching out, I guess.

>>718077010
I'm pretty good at all of that, but is it an action game mechanic? because if so it doesn't really slot easily into my rpg.
you dont have to share if you dont want to.

>>718077724
I'm thinking about a specific type of for niggas in a row type of a game, with a modular ability system. Instead of set abilities for each character, or cards in deckbuilders, you'd get a small library of effects that would allow you to modify the abilities on the fly. I'm going to start prototyping it soon, because now I'm busy with other projects.

>>718079552
to be honest that sounds pretty similar to what I had in mind for my SRPG but it was a lot more involved and not on the fly. I came up with a narrative reason for why the player should be able to rebuild character classes whenever they want, and worked it into the story
the system you are talking about though sounds a lot like some kind of turn based magicka

with AI you can now turn your ideas into reality. japanese people are making AI mangas and getting rich from it

>>718079990
>turn based magicka
Yeah, I guess it does, in a way. God, I miss that game, I need to bully my friends into playing it again.

>>718075640
No one has

>>718080079
Lel, now you reminded me of that tweet of some hapa femoid saying she made a game with ChatGPT, and the game she was showing was elden ring

>>718081625
making a game is completely different beast.
some people have great ideas but cant draw. thats where ai come in and they hire someone else to touch up. boom now you got a million seller.

>>718076646
You seem to be the only one who's got trouble understanding it, ESL

>>718076895
Oh in that case OP is doubly retarded because there are plenty of games that had zero budget and made much more than a million

>>718073848 (OP)
You can take out a loan from your local bank at any time.
The only reason you haven't made your dream game is because you lack the will to work on it.
You know if you took out a loan, you'd procrastinate and procrastinate and procrastinate until the interest drowns you.

>>718081486
remnant might be shit but it made hundreds of millions in sales

>>718082203
>thats where ai come in and they hire someone else to touch up.

>Use ai
>still hire an artist

>million dollar idea
It's all about execution. You don't need money. Plenty of people make huge hit indie games in their spare time. You have no creativity or skills. That's the real issue.

>>718083019
Billions actually, MJ wishes he had this much fame when he was still alive

>>718073848 (OP)
Make your $10,000 idea instead. If you make enough money on small ideas then you can use it to fund your big idea.

ive always been thinking about these multi octodecillion dollar ideas, comparing them to existing games and their sales, researching how much appeal it would have, shit like that. But it was always something dream-tier and completely unfeasible for me to make anywhere soon
Dont get me wrong, i liked these ideas because its something i would really like, the kind of shit id want to play but doesnt exist. But it was just completely unpractical conceptually

But after all these years, for once the path became clear. First i came up with an actually pretty feasible first-commercial-project game that would actually be sick and in a genre that is seemingly generic (and easy) yet a little scarce in recent years, and the artists i know are literally perfect for it.
And a few weeks afterwards, i came up with another game that would be tough because big 3d but would be an actual fucking goldmine while being completely feasible for a second commercial title if i had the experience of the first game
After this realisation i pretty much instantly decided to download unity so i can make a silly small game in a handful of months to learn the basics until im ready to start making the actual big games 1 and 2

>>718083514
Godspeed anon, hope you make it, what genre?

>>718073934
This, in the end execution is the most important part when making a game.
You can have a dogshit idea, but as long as you have the funding, talented staff and other resources, your dogshit idea might at least be ok.

I want more games where you play as a dragon but they are always so aimless. Also want it to be more toony instead of hyper-real

>>718073934
OP anally destroyed, just ask any of these fags what's their million dollar idea and they'll (at best) only mention the artstyle and vague gameplay ideas (ie imagine if Platinum made it bro)

>>718083743
>first silly game
basic top down shooter/slasher/dasher with very basic shapes as graphics. slow turning with plenty momentum and neat synergy across moves. The one reason im gonna put so much effort into that is because i plan to weaponize it for my undergraduate thesis in compsci about using neural networks for videogame AI (this has a 90% chance to turn out the biggest snake oil meme in existence but it gets my degree)
>if i need more silly games worth of learning before moving into a real project
fuck i dont know. ill probably try a sidescroller or some extremely basic 3D

>first commercial game
isometric action game where the MC is a melee-ranged hybrid (think of Furi or HLD or something). straightforward campaign with a bunch of extras and bonus levels
cheap-but-not-so-cheap 3D graphics (decentish 3D graphics for isometric games are actually much cheaper than actual high quality pixel art btw)
>second commercial game
basically just indie armored core ft. space battles and one devilish touch that assures decillions of sales

>>718084065
I want a game where you play either a dragon or a human or both (switching/area based/party) and they slowly developer love relationships throughout the story
Dont have to be lewd, but there must be extremely touchy, close sensual contact

>>718073848 (OP)

I am making a breath of the wild clone in my spare time. What is your excuse?

ITT

>>718086595
Imagine needing an excuse to not follow your dreams. Couldn't be me.

>waste your adult life being smug about how your genius ideas would change the world if only someone would care about them
>never take the steps to actualize your vision into reality using sheer willpower
>find yourself in your 30s with nothing to show for your self-assigned superiority

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

>>718084065
>I want more games where you play as a dragon
IN THE WORLD OF FRYDAR ISLAND, THERE IS FEAR AMONG THE POPULACE. WHEN ONE DRAGON RISES FROM HIS BED AS THE KING TO UNRAVEL A CONSPIRACY IN HIS KINGDOM. FYGOON…IS HE AN EVIL TYRANT OF AMBITION, OR AN INNOCENT VICTIM OF REVOLUTION? MASTER 13 WEAPONS OF WAR AS YOU HELP FYGOON FIGHT BACK THE EVIL COMMUNIST PLAGUE. CUT DOWN AND INCINERATE UP TO 40 DIFFERENT ENEMIES, BUT BEWARE THEIR FEROCIOUS ATTACKS. THE DESTRUCTION OF THOSE WHO STAND IN YOUR WAY IS YOUR ONLY PURPOSE, AND THE ONLY WAY TO FIND OUT IF FYGOON IS GOOD OR EVIL. WITH UNPARALLELED ACTION AND COMBAT, YOU ARE PRIMED FOR A FEW HOURS OF SWASHBUCKING, GLOBETROTTING ADVENTURE.
The Frydarian Tale.
https://fygoon.com/game.html

>>718086797
Attack has power, not strength. Strength is applied passively, power is applied actively

Armor or shields would have strength

>>718088339
>Frydar

Change this word, it's malphonic and flows badly. has no apparent source so no meaning or value to you.

>>718088503
Good to know, anonymous man. I will update the description accordingly.

>>718073848 (OP)
whooa, a million dollars, in this industry? what's your big idea? a screensaver that has steam drops enabled and a bunch of bots to plump up the market?

>>718088580
>Has no apparent source
There is a source, actually:
I made it the fuck up in a dream I had a decade ago.

>>718084373
>basic top down shooter/slasher/dasher with very basic shapes as graphics
Already exists
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2736690/Void_Sols/

>>718088339
That's not a dragon. That's some human lizard abomination

>>718089276
>sols
kill urself

>>718089510
Yeah because I'm in charge of every game's name

I thought I could make a "simple" kaiju growth game. You start out as a small lizard thing and eat stuff to grow super big. Kinda like katamari damacy.

Turns out modeling a city is pretty hard, even low-poly. And the logistics of the creature having to bend down and grab stuff to eat is harder when you get really big. Maybe it'll be a slime girl instead and you can absorb stuff by walking into it. Also not sure what the end-game is. I don't want to model an entire planet so maybe I'll just trap the player in the city.

>>718073848 (OP)
>have a million dollar idea that has a billion dollar cost
the AAA industry will gladly welcome you

>>718073848 (OP)
>have a game idea, like a properly complete one (even down to an 'Impossible' mode difficulty that has 4 distinct AI patterns and unique encounters [Commander, Berserker, Pawn, Guardian])
>can't be assed to learn how to actually develop things
>even if i did, I'd be stopped by art and music (i can make sound effects or use sound libraries and mix my own)
>can't draw, can't read sheet music, only instruments I have is a MIDI keyboard and my aging electric guitar
>would never be happy with asset store stuff, and I wouldn't have the money to comm my own music

>above all else, I can't find the motivation, but I love writing stories
i'm never gonna get to make Diveria Irae, am I
at least I got a friend to follow their dreams and they'll put some of my characters in their game, but that's about it, my ambitions are too far beyond what I can actually do

>>718073848 (OP)
made for BWC

>>718089456
>Squamate reptile
>Breathes fire
>Has wings
>Above-average intelligence
Fygoon's a dragon.

The one thing that pisses me off about idea guys is that they think they dont need to work too like everybody else. Your ideas are like 10% maybe but the other 90% still require work and dedication.

>>718092383
For one your ideas most certainly are not fleshed out and you need to see if there even is a tool and the technical capability to realize it. And then you NEED to adapt your ideas continually to the real world and progress will be 1/10 the speed of what you imagined. You need to grip your teeth and do the job and then you need to have the heart to reevaluate your idea, because your idea most likely is ignorant about the realities of gamedev. And then you build something and it will be different from the idea in your head and then you need to be a big boy and deal with it without crying and running to mama or fleeing back into fantasy land where your ideas magically become real 24/7 because your so special and genius.

>>718092951
In the end of the day 99.9% of ideas never get realized and then you realize that you are just day dreaming all the time and then you are an oldfag. And its all sad and you cry like a pussy baby looser because to be real most people here are pussy baby loosers. And then you die and its over

any idea is only as good as the execution

The death of the ideaguy was the death of the industry.

>>718073934
ideas are what sell games
nobody buys a game because it runs well

>>718073848 (OP)
>million dollar game idea
>Jon Blow spent 22m on his sokoban game

>>718095295
marketing sells games

>>718095295
Black women sell games

>>718095485
I dont care about sales, as a consumer I only want good games.

I released a game and hardly anyone played it. It's honestly not worth it.

>>718095902
No sales means the dev studio immediately goes bankrupt

>>718096097
I also dont care about that. I only want good games. Im a consumerrr

>have game idea
>know how to implement it
>even have existing code to reference or copypaste
>even have assets I've already paid for
>too lazy to make it

>>718096428
>I only want good games
Not happening since they don't sell and all the studios are bankrupt. ggez

>>718096462
I'm convinced shit like this is from the same 91 IQ subhumans who post the "I could have done well in school I was just too lazy but I'm a genius" cope

>>718096598
I'm not going to argue with you. I may indeed be a 91 IQ subhuman. I certainly lack willpower and motivation.
I'm not even going to say I have a million dollar game idea. It's even worse; I have a game idea for something I personally would like to play but don't have the strength to make it despite the ability.

>>718096776
To tell you the truth, if you dont have the strength to make it, then you really do not have the ability to make it. Sorry to call out your delusions

>>718096776
Tell me the idea and I'll tell you the games that already did it

>>718073848 (OP)
If it needs a budget that big to be good its not actually a million dollar idea

>>718096958
Well that's just obviously incorrect. For example I know I have the ability to find what the 12h digit of PI is, but I don't care to do it ( in this case: a google simple google search).
>>718096991
He Is Coming / Loop Hero style auto battler except:
-not a roguelike, longer form character progression
-not an idle/incremental game.
-has world exploration
-only control YOUR DUDE [ not controlling a team]
-you can customize what YOUR DUDE looks like
-equipment may or may not impact what effects are slotted in the, I'm not set on this
-[optional] persistent online component

Closest thing for what I have in mind would be like a cross between Adventure Quest and Loop Hero or He Is Coming

>>718098034
Auto battlers are idle games by definition, retardbro

>>718098132
I clearly meant the kind that you choose an activity and go afk for hours then you come back to having +X widgets so you can repeat the process with Y widgets, anon

>>718074069
Yes most people are like this. Thankfully. Our society wouldn't function without an army of soulless drones

>>718098485
>heh... you can't even come up with "a platformer but about depression"...

You got a million dollar idea? Well, I got a billion dollar idea. Imagine this you play as a busty Sister of Battle in a Space Marine 2 style clone but the enemies fuck you if you lose. Every time you get fucked it increases your corruption meter, which changes the ending.
COME ON YOU KNOW IT WOULD FUCKING SELL

>>718084028
Good execution with mediocre ideas is how you get AAA slop. Janky game with good ideas > polished turd

>>718073848 (OP)
wet black pantyhose is sexo

>>718099570
only because it stick to the skin, making the puffy pussy silhouette/countour more visible

sneed

should I include a futa penis washing mini game in my porn game
serious answers only

>Try to make a game
>Realize how retarded I really am
I have tried numerous times to get a better understanding of math and I just cannot comprehend numbers. Or remember what the fucking commands are in code.

>>718074069
the citadel dev is basically that
he just sees action tropes and fetishes and adds them to his game if he likes them. He doesn't care if people doesn't like it, he just makes what he likes
he has no budget, so it takes ages for a game or feature to pump out, unless he's really motivated.

>>718100074
>I have tried numerous times to get a better understanding of math and I just cannot comprehend numbers. Or remember what the fucking commands are in code.
I think this shouldn't be that big of a problem with AI. I don't know how good LLMs are with maths or numbers since I never used them that way but they can certainly be useful as a parrot that can remind you/tell you what command or syntax you need.

>>718100074
have you tried just remembering them

>million dollar game idea
>need million dollars to make real
hmmm

>>718100318
Sure but I don't actually understand why it is the way it is.

>>718100193
I downloaded this hoping the protagonist can get fucked by the monsters but I was sorely disappointed. What's the point of guro without any fucking?

>>718100649
YWNBAW

>>718073848 (OP)
That Umumusume isn't training properly.

>>718095295
Gamestop sells games

>>718100193
that's barely scratching the surface of the man's creative genius

>>718073848 (OP)
Kingdom hearts but with universal characters

making a game but i'm using AI to help me write the code. if someone were to unpack my game and view the code, would it be obvious it was written by AI?

>>718103026
AI generated code is basically indistinguishable from code made by pajeet

>>718103026
They'd just assume you were getting help from an indian, but in reality your game isn't likely to be popular enough to have someone try to decompile it.

>>718095295
Depends. A game that might be unimpressive on another system might be very impressive on a console like the switch 1/2, so it running better can be a selling point.

>>718100649
see what I mean? the dev likes his incest and shotacon and guro for the spectacle.

>>718102460
I don't have the screenshot but the one where he goes on about there being traces in some place of deepthroat, throatfucking, bukkake, piss drinking and ends it off with "truly a mystery...." has me laughing so ahrd

>>718073848 (OP)
Your idea is retarded, you've littered this retarded idea in multiple threads over the last couple months so that you can turn around and post about "No why did i post my heccinrino epic idea for the best game ever!!!! Anons will steal why am i so dumb xD uwu oh nuuuu!!!!!" And all your fucking idea is, is gyro controls like they have in fucking splatoon. Kill yourself.

>>718102460
Slanteyes != genius

>>718073848 (OP)
Pitch it to me and I might invest my bitcoin millions in your idea

>>718079552
JRPG Noita?

>>718088580
>malphonic
I'm pretty sure this isn't a word but it really sounds like it should be one. I understand exactly what it means at least

>Have an autistic fixation with worldbuilding
>Have been hyperfixated on the same world I dreamt up when I was 12, am now 47
>Have written several books worth of lore and short stories, even an unpublished novel or two that just collect dust on my bookshelves and SSDs
>I will never do anything with any of it and will probably burn and delete it all before I kick the bucket

I am the quintessential ideas guy

>>718105765
Just upload it to the internet.

>AI still can't code me functional gameplay systems from scratch
>AI still can't compose me an OST that makes sense within context
>AI still can't write me a compelling narrative
>AI still can't produce coherent art assets
Gotta say it's tough right now as a 0 technical and artistic talents ideas guy

>>718073848 (OP)
Hey phonefag could you please never again use my cute sexy horsedaughterwife for your stupid shitposts?

>>718090315
I think blender has some plugins to generate cities. Or you can try using some asset store. The real challenge is gonna be destruction physics. Everything would have to be converted to voxels or have multiple versions of decay.

I would get some voxel engine and design the buildings and streets like minecraft. You can mix it with non-voxel objects like streetlamps, trees, cars, people, etc.

Also that monster has titties

>>718105842
I wouldn't presume to pollute the noosphere with my autism.

>Want to work on projects
>Keep losing focus
My brain doesn't work and I don't know why

>>718088339
Shut up you gay scalie