Thread 718210727

What am I in for? Looks fun but other than being a Mech game, I don't really understand anything else about it.

>>718210727 (OP)
Fifth is the worst one imo. Older ones made you juggle bunch of controls and keep track of a lot of indicators on your mech and that's on top of combating enemies. That really made you feel like you piloting a futuristic war machine. Fifth is just hold w + lmb and go to marker. This series totally BTFOed by armored core now

>>718210727 (OP)
I dunno man just fucking play it. There's a clan invasion DLC next month, so you can look forward to that. MW5 is bloody huge with the all the current DLC, so you probably will take a month to get to the end of the game when the clans show up.

>>718211032
>armored core
I pirated 6 and its nothing like MW5. MW5 you are slow and chunky. AC i was dodging left right, flying and all sorts. Completly different feel.
I also stopped playing ac6 because i got a hard on every time the voice said 621, and because it was boring and pirate's regret.

>>718211032
The old games were console garbage for the PS2. MW5 is where you feel like you're in a real mech because of the tank controls and heat management. Not to mention the actual mech customization and build variety is huge compared to previous games.

>>718210727 (OP)
idk i ran out of money to buy M lasers and stopped playing

>>718211138
>i got a hard on every time the voice said 621
Only the guy calls you by that name. The girl calls you Raven.

You gay or something?

>>718210727 (OP)
i heard this game has a ton of procedural generation and base building elements
why the fuck lmao?

>>718211193
You're supposed to hack in trillion of credits at the beginning and ignore the economy aspect of the game.

>>718211138
>pirated it
Hope you paid for MW5 because you need 50 steam workshop mods to make it mediocre instead of shit

>>718210727 (OP)
You really need to mod this for it to be fun. Base game is dogshit with infinite pop-in enemies and piddly mechlab.

>>718211238
There's like 400 hand crafted missions at this point. The procgen missions are there if you have no life. There's no base building. You just customise your mechs.

>>718210727 (OP)
It's ASS
No, mods do not save it

>>718211169
what are you smoking?

>>718210727 (OP)
Peak goyslop
Play armored core 6 instead

>>718211346
>mods do not save it
Yes they fucking do.

>>718211331
but isnt this game about building your own mercenary group or something?

>>718211375
A lot of mods make it worse. Vanilla is fine.

>>718210727 (OP)
>What am I in for?

If you take damage you can enjoy replacing all your guns at the gunshop planet and failing whatever quests you had because traveling consumes calender days in this game and all quests have time limits

This game has no mission, encounter or map design design for the most part and the AI is dog shit. It's a 2/10 elevated to a 5/10 with mods

>>718210727 (OP)
Have you played Mechwarrior Online?
Because 5 is just single player MWO.

>>718211169
all mainline installments are pc exclusive since the third and up to fifth. Tank controls are a staple of the entire series. And i'not sure where exactly heat machanic appeared first but it definitely was in four. You just asked ai to make counterargument for you aren't ya, champ?

>>718211293
Do you think you can't just download mods off the workshop?
You can

>>718211417
YAML
Improved hanger lighting
save editor
mech delivery
faster cantina skip
advanced zoom
better jump jets weightless
cockpit glass
disable cooldown sounds
fast annihilator
global illumination enhanced
improved airstrike
infantry no color, damage and expense
machine gun longer range
max potential hires
mech hanger no fog
mech shader v2
nsr sounds
p8k weapon fx
pgi infantry
qol upgrades
remove jump animation
savage wolf
smaller traits
timberwold classic
timberwolf yaml
ts music mod
ultravisual and weather
unlock hidden color schemes
war-fx
zero slot cheap

>>718211331
That one mission mod kinda has base building.
The base defense ones where you build turrets.
I enjoy those.

>>718210727 (OP)
It's not fun to play at all, the story and characters might as well not exist to begin with and controls are way worse than Mechwarrior Online, which they made before this.

Is Clans better than the base game?

the only mods that are essential are the better AI and mechlab mods. ignore all the scrub retards telling you to cheat money or shit like that the game is already piss easy, tells you how much the faggots in this board actually play games when they lose at a casual mech game.

>>718211981
>It's not fun to play
It is.

>the story and characters might as well not exist
One guy is voiced by Adam Jensen and I know you appreciate the Scottish woman.

>controls are way worse
Then change them in the settings.

>>718211759
>YAML
Stopped reading there.

But is the game fun to play? Fun to learn? Fun to interact?
Can I just have my mech PMC and do random shit around the galaxy?
The gameplay looks kinda fun, maybe stop talking about mods and what is better or not and just tell me about the fucking game.

>>718212028
It's just different. There's no real economy because you're a Clan. The Clan mechs are superior to IS mechs. Missions are more focused on killing hoards of IS and making the same realization that the Clans did; Speccing your mechs for 1v1 duals is a bad idea when entering a war of attrition.

You will constantly run out of ammo and slowly drift into using energy weapon boats, just like the Clans did.

>do tutorial mission
>alright cool
>get put in retarded management ship mode
>lose all interest
i want to play as a mech not do fucking maintenance and accept contracts

>>718211463
I keep component destruction turned off for this reason.

I want a Battletech game but its actually Aerotech with newtonian space physics

>>718212091
>It is
Is not

>But Adam Jensen and booba
Don't care. Shit characters, shit story, shit game.

>Change the controls
They are inherently jank, it's not a question of rebinding your keys. The controls themselves suck.

>>718212173
More like started reading there, am I right?

>>718212231
You'd definably prefer Clans, then.

>>718212352
What's your actual problem with the controls? How are they stopping you from winning?

>>718211981
>controls are way worse than Mechwarrior Online
lol

>>718212220
It's a game where you build your mech team and select missions to make money to build better mechs and do bigger missions. You can do random missions forever if you want, or follow a number of storyline missions that have excessively verbose mission descriptions about how
Senator Erico Von Hendernbergsteian demands satisfaction from Lady Eleeznas Dam Banduzerg.

>participated in the Mechwarrior Online closed and open beta tests in 2012
>never touched a Pirahna product ever since it MWO actually released

>>718212732
Sounds fun, the game looks and feels heavy.
Are there any good mods, then?

>>718212783
>Are there any good mods, then?
Weeeeell, yes. But also, the mods tend to break when a new DLC drops, and the final DLC appears to be dropping in September. The big mods get updated fast, but little one off mods often get left behind.

>>718212231
Play the normal Mechwarrior games then. Not the ones with ":Mercenaries" in the title.

I heard Clans was more story driven

>>718212995
>final DLC
I'll believe it when it happens.

>>718212783
YAML for better mech customisation, if you're into that. Better AI mod to make your lancemates less retarded. I should note YAML also lets you edit values like repair costs, weapon damage, enemy HP, and so on.

>>718213194
None of the games before MW5 are worth playing, because they're too dated.

>>718213386
What can they even do after finally having the Clans invade?

>>718213194
Still so playable, huh?

>>718213632
Retread MW3 by doing Operation BULLDOG again.

>>718213870
There are non-":Mercenaries" Mechwarrior game that have come out recently. Scroll up.

I'd like a 3039 game. The time period makes it so you can have shitty Succession War era mechs for mooks, and brand new mechs with recovered and experimental technology (Helm Memory Core) for named characters.

>>718213386
>>718213632
jihad era. we MechAssault now.

>>718213978
What was that?

>>718214134
I don't think the MC can live that long. He's already like 60 years old by the end of the story.

It's doomed to being a kind of shit game because the very basic structure is "try to minimize losses, try to maximize profits", but three quarters of your team are buttfuckingly stupid AI in a weird horde shooter.

The enemy WILL fearlessly charge you knowing they are merely wave six of fifteen and they have nothing to lose except for costing you money. Your AI team mates WILL wander up to an AC/20 urbanmech and get cored, costing you three times what the missions payout would've been. You can't trust them to handle anything. They can find a way to lose to anything.

You might think to not even bring them, but you have to kill fifty fucking mechs every mission and you can't dodge for shit, so you need raw DPS and armor values to finish anything.

For me, personally, it's the urbie

>>718214164
Reformed Star League wiping out Clan Smoke Jaguar.

>>718214474
I tried a beachhead mission with a near-stock urbie, only upgraded with a RAC-5. all of my back armor got shaved off because I couldn't outrun the artillery, and then my ammo went up and blew my RAC-5 off. I did not make it very far but I cannot be mad at the urbie. he does his best and his 360 degree torso twist is just too cool.

>tfw bout to start getting into tabletop battletech
i have to go out of town just to play but thankfully it's not that far

Shut up and post undertonnage mechs.

i really wish you guys were a bit more informative over the game and the mechwarrior games
i have never played any and it's really hard to make something out of this thread; more than usual

>>718215721
>it's really hard to make something out of this thread
Because you're a moron.

>>718211375
No they don't, play a good mechwarrior instead

>>718215769
:(

Why has there never been an Amaris Coup themed game?

>>718215829
They'll never do anything before the end of the Fourth Succession War

Death to all clanners.

>>718216887
Eat a missile burst incel sphere scum.

>>718216887
I'm launching 4 stars of novas at your current planetary location. prepare for global warming, spheroid.

>>718210727 (OP)
>What am I in for?
extremely boring and repetitive gameplay, no real customization or role playing of your mercenary company, extremely bad voice acting, outdated graphics with awful optimization and performance, braindead AI and lancemates that you'll fighting as much as the enemies, super generic storylines that don't really affect anything.
if you add in mods it turns a 5/10 game into a 6.5/10 game

>>718211375
>Yes they fucking do.
adding in mechs, infantry and meme missions doesn't salvage the core problems of the game.

>>718217450
It's weird how 20 mechs is considered a legit invasion force in Btech. "Battle"tech but the wars are actually tiny and maybe 0.1% of the population is military.

>>718211759
none of those save the garbage core mechanics of the game.

>>718210727 (OP)
>What am I in for?
PIGschlop

>>718211169
>The old games were console garbage for the PS2.
What is this dumb NIGGGGER talking about.

>>718217664
75th post - best post
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>>718217712
Yeah it does.

>>718211379
and since when having your squad means building a base for them

>>718217752
Yes they do.

>>718217664
come on it cant be that bad
>no real customization or role playing of your mercenary company
i dont believe you.

>>718218281
Why do you need TWO radar mini maps?

>>718211902
That's a modded one isn't it?

>>718218281
It's INSANE how much more fun MWLL was than MWO. The latter is a slog, the former is the most fun I've had in multiplayer. Sniping cockpits with the Hawkmoth was a blast.

>>718218341
High tech.

>>718218204
using a timberwolf to shoot crappy infantry and elementals doesn't fix the craptastic campaign, missing unique pilots and npcs with banter and dialogue (there's like 3 npcs in the fucking ship you talk to. they don't even turn their heads when speaking), useless roaming in the dropship, no cool rpg elements or company building of your mercenary company, zero economy, deadpan lifeless voice acting, awful textures and graphics.

>>718218298
the only real customization you do is changing mech colors and changing your "logo". they couldn't even be bothered with things like unique upgrades to your ship and other nice flavor touches. the tranny battlertech game for all its faults unironically had a better rpg system in place even if it was barebones.

>>718218391
>>718218281
Which one is this, looks interesting

>>718213385
it is. it has its own faults but it's at least far superior to the base game in that regard.

>>718218573
https://files.catbox.moe/2k91af.webm
Living Legends

>>718214438
this
the game in general would be salvageable with mods, but the AI is just so jackshit retarded, simply ruins the combat itself

I'd just play Mechwarrior Living Legends instead

>>718218607
^this
It has its issues and is only somewhat repayable but I was genuinely surprised at how fun it was and them actually willing to go trough with some of the story beats.

>>718218468
Wrong, wrong, wrong. You can find pilots that you like in cantinas. They have specific dialogue and personalities. The campaign is phenomenal. Roaming the inside of your dropship is immersive. The game has RPG elements in the form of mech upgrades. You do build your company. There is an economy. The voice acting is top notch. The textures and graphics are good.

>>718218541
You don't know what you're talking about. You don't even know what an RPG is. And frankly, you wanting the game to be an RPG makes you a retard.

>>718210727 (OP)
If you don't care about lore or story this game is one of the best sandbox games to exist (with lots of mods installed).

>>718218924
>You don't know what you're talking about.
all of it is true. sucking PGI's cock won't change it.
>You don't even know what an RPG is. And frankly, you wanting the game to be an RPG makes you a retard.
I don't want it to be a full on RPG just add in elements like they did with battletech where you actually run a merc company.

>>718219004
>all of it is true
Is it really?

>I don't want it to be a full on RPG
Then stop asking for it to be a full on RPG. Yes you are.

>>718218612
Is this a game of some sort? Or a mod?

>>718218828
>You can find pilots that you like in cantinas. They have specific dialogue and personalities.
bitch those are NOT unique pilots.
> The campaign is phenomenal
there are like 4-5 actually unique missions in the main game. everything else is procedurally generated
>Roaming the inside of your dropship is immersive.
it's not. the only things that you can actually do are look at the mechs. that's it
>You do build your company.
oh boy can't wait to do the exact same missions i've been doing for the last 20 hrs but this time with higher tonnage
>There is an economy
what economy lol?
>The voice acting is top notch.
the only "good" voice actor in there is jensen and he sounds fucking bored. the ones in the dlcs are "slightly" better but not by much
>The textures and graphics are good.
fucking christ this is why we can't have nice things.

>>718219108
It's a full conversion mod to Crysis Warhead.

>>718219154
Jesus.

>>718219154
Including playable, tanks, hovercraft, wheeled offs, vtols, aerospace fighters and mechs.

>>718219073
>Is it really?
it is? refute them. the main campaign has a limited amount of actually unique missions around 5-7 the rest is just procedurally generated. the dlc campaigns don't even really feel different despite having more custom content and the added mechs while nice aren't real game changers (everyone's going to build and use the same things anyway). the graphics were dated when the game first released and it's even more noticeable now even with mods and reshades. the pilots you recruit are just generic npcs with the same lines despite changing portraits(at least clans somewhat fixes this). changing the color of the mechs and changing loadouts is a given but the fact that you even needed mods like yaml to make it feel halfway complete is retarded. there's 3 npcs you interact with max in the ship. jensen, your mechanic and your dispatcher. that's it. the rpg elements I was suggesting are like in the battletech game with random events happening and upgrades for your pilots to keep them happy. they were nice touches that felt you were an actual merc group

>>718217943
>didn't have an xbox when mechassault was online
>didn't have a gaming pc when living legends was alive

The game really could've done with an empires mode where you can actually follow a continuous conflict and side with whoever. Instead you're a billionaire who kills five hundred mechs per mission but you still just do random mass slaughter on planets that never change and nothing really matters except for whichever faction likes you enough to actually pay you worth shit.
You can go all the way up to the clan invasion now and literally nothing changes in any meaningful way except for what shows up in the shop lol

>>718219691
^absolutely this

>>718219691
couldn't have said it any better, even if you're the literal grim reaper no one fucking cares or acknowledges it

>>718219691
a Battlefront-style galactic conquest mode would be so cool

>>718219795
there is zero interactivity with the world. it feels like a glorified arena brawler and yet there are faggots here who lavishly tongue the game's asshole and defend it because they can ride in a madcat and shoot at people because of mods.

>>718219134
>NOT unique pilots
Sure they are. You even find some in specific missions.

>there are like 4-5 actually unique missions in the main game
Nah they added like 100 handmade missions since then.

>you can actually look at the mechs
Sweet.

>can't wait to try out these new mechs and builds I just made for the next mission.
I hear you.

>What economy
You pay for stuff.

>the only "good" voice actor
Come on, you liked having the scottish woman be your handler.

>Textures ain't good
Sure they are. I liked that one nighttime blizzard mission with the aurora overhead.

>>718219691
The fact that stuff in the shops unlocks in accordance with when those things were invented or rediscovered in the lore is a GOOD thing.

>>718220135
>Sure they are. You even find some in specific missions.
there is ONE "unique" pilot you can recruit early on in the game. that's it.
>Nah they added like 100 handmade missions since then.
MAIN GAME read again.
>Sweet.
cool what else can I do?
>I hear you.
sure I'll swap out my assault lance for this charger in a 400 tonnage mission
>You pay for stuff.
lmao
>Come on, you liked having the scottish woman be your handler.
no
>Sure they are. I liked that one nighttime blizzard mission with the aurora overhead.
get better taste.

>>718218343
Did the post saying it was part of the mission mod give it away?

>>718218468
Combat (gameplay) is fun. All that matters.

>>718220724
>All that matters.
Nope

>>718218669
>Mechwarrior Living Legends
Isn't that multi-player only?
Am I wrong?

I keep reading about poor AI and stuff but I played MW5 as my first MW game year ago or something and experienced no problems with AI or enemy spawns. I wonder if these problems were patched already and people shitting on game simply didn't notice and still hold opinions from release.

>play old games
I'm unable to keep up with pre-MW5 controls where I have to manually twist torso, sorry.

>>718217712
>>718217752
What "core problems"?

>>718220771
It is.

>>718220784
>I keep reading about poor AI and stuff but I played MW5 as my first MW game year ago or something and experienced no problems with AI or enemy spawns.
they were somewhat fixed early on since everyone was complaining about it and for good reason. mostly fixed with additional mods now.

>>718220821
I've already listed the issues just read those.

Mechwarrior 4 is the best choice if you want a singleplayer mechwarrior. The base game and expansions provide plenty of content to consume.
Mechwarrior 3 is also a decent choice, piloting mechs in it feels better than any mechwarrior title but I found the campaign on both games lacking compared to 4, and it's a hassle to get running on a modern computer.
Mechwarrior 2 is awesome narrative-wise, if you pay attention to the kilometers of text they give for your reading.

>>718220981
Link to the post then.

>>718221026
>>718217664
>>718218468

>>718220991
the fact that MW5 is a stepdown from those rustles my jimmies.

>>718220784
I only started recently. The team AI is still doodoo. They get close to what they shouldn't and stay far from what they should, you can't give them direct or specific orders, you can't assign them roles or give them specific kinds of targets. They just follow behind you like a gaggle of ducklings and then they fall down a sewer grate when you stop watching them. The only thing that they actually watch is the range on their weapons, and so you can barely wrangle them by only giving them weapons of a specific range so they stay at that distance. But if you give them 2 20 lrms and one laser, they can still sometimes decide to engage up close with their laser.

Mods can slightly improve this, the map orders mod is absolutely fundamental and it's shocking you still can't order them using the map in vanilla.

>>718221062
Half of them are outdated (AI was fixed before first DLC, game have lots of premade missions), others sound like being prickly for the sake of it. Somehow MW4 or 3 had better characters, voice acting or story? Or MW2 Mercenaries?

>>718210727 (OP)
blowing up house liao chinks and looting their stuff
blowing up house steiner germs and looting their stuff
blowing up house kurita nips and looting their stuff
blowing up house marik niggas and looting their stuff
blowing up house davion bong-frogs and looting their stuff
blowing up clanner scum in the future and looting their stuff

>>718221219
which are outdated? the graphics are pretty much the same even with the new clans game. the AI has been passable at best with mods. BASE game campaign is not good at all and was a major issue during release of the base game. the dlcs aren't that much better they're just "ok". voice acting IS terrible (fixed with clans). mw2-4 all had things that they did better than 5. the point of having a sequel is improving on and adding to what you had previously. not just lazily throw MWO assets into a glorified arena brawler.

>>718220232
>there is ONE "unique" pilot
There's more now. Plus there's more coming in the Clans invasion DLC.

>MAIN GAME
MW5 Mercs with all DLC is huge now and has lots of hand made missions, with more variety than what I've seen in Clans.

>cool what else can I do?
Jack off to the scottish woman.

>I'll swap out my assault lance for this charger
You'd be surprised with what some of the heavy and medium mechs can do if you spec them for all SRMs or all medium lasers. I tried it, on a 100 difficulty warzone mission. I had a lot of problems with my AI team mates getting in the way and I was too slow to go around one of my Kintaros while it was being hammered. He got fucked up. But as you can see, both SRM boat Kintaros did more damage than me in the ANH and the Atlas I brought with me.

>>718221109
Anyone that played MWO didn't expect it to be any good, only the true newfags to PGI got upset

>>718221420
>here's more now. Plus there's more coming in the Clans invasion DLC.
only freeman is an actually scripted pilot with unique dialogue. those other ones are only technically unique in that they have different portraits. but ok fine they're "unique"
>MW5 Mercs with all DLC is huge now and has lots of hand made missions, with more variety than what I've seen in Clans.
MW5 has 5 fucking mission dlcs that cost about ten bucks each. they BETTER have new missions. i've played till rise of rasalhague and the scripted missions range from meh to just OK.
>Jack off to the scottish woman.
eh.

>>718221709
Come on man, Clans seems to be 90% straight combat, scanning stuff, and that one stealth mission. Meanwhile Mercs has the demolitions, assassinations, beachheads, and such. I don't know if Clans will give me airstrikes like Mercs did, but it hasn't yet.

>>718222117
clans just did cinematics, voice acting and the story better compared to mw5 and that's about it. at the very least 90% of the missions in clans are all scripted handmade stuff. while base game mw5 had 90% of the campaign as procedurally generated content. they're both still average at best games. both have their pros and cons.

>>718222320
To be honest I'm still not sure what the fuck happened with Perez right after the Turtle Bay Massacre. He's all bloody and breathing heavily, as if he's just been beaten up. Then the black woman says the "challenge is over" and gives Perez's command to the black guy, who neither has a scratch, not looks like he's tired from serving a beating. Am I supposed to believe those two guys just had a boxing match for command of a galaxy? Can anyone issue that kind of challenge? If so, you'd think the Elementals would be running everything.

>>718222593
>He's all bloody and breathing heavily, as if he's just been beaten up
he was
>Perez's command to the black guy, who neither has a scratch, not looks like he's tired from serving a beating
he wasn't the one doing the beating
> Am I supposed to believe those two guys just had a boxing match for command of a galaxy?
perez was getting his ass kicked for nuking edo
> Can anyone issue that kind of challenge?
you have to have the appropriate rank and social status

>>718222704
>he wasn't the one doing the beating
Who was? Was it a part of the challenge? The fuck happened?

>>718211375
110%

>>718223197
strong black wimmin khan was doing the beating for nuking edo. the challenge was taking edo "honorably" the clan way. it was over because perez rage quit and nuked the place. the black guy that replaces him also screws up and gets executed later.

Base game has been good since about 2021. Get Heroes of the Inner Sphere as it's a necessity, the other dlcs are extra flavor and some singleplayer content.
HotIS pushed the main game to a solid 8-9, but mods really make the game a 10. Unfortunately you'll likely be installing about ~40gigs of mods to make some sweeping improvements, but they're game changing in a good way so they're worth it. Mostly just adding more mechs and weapons, with a really huge one adding new biomes for map generation.
The only criticism I could love at the game is that starting in 3015 can be boring if you don't frequently do long-distance travel, as you won't see new weaponry or Mecha get produced more often until the 3030's.
It's also on gamepass, so id recommend you try it there before you pick it up on steam during a sale. Comes with the most important dlc on gamepass, too.
Never seen this much hate for it on /v/ so I guess indie mech devs must be mad about it or something.

>>718222593
You're not the first person to come to the conclusion that Clan culture is dumb nor the last.

>>718223641
>Never seen this much hate for it on /v/ so I guess indie mech devs must be mad about it or something.
bruh no one but the most hardcore mechfags is defending this game.
>HotIS pushed the main game to a solid 8-9, but mods really make the game a 10.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHA

>>718212220
>is the game fun to play?
At first, then it's not
>Fun to learn?
Yes! But once you learn the lesson you're disappointed
>Fun to interact?
I don't think that's possible...

>>718212231
The retarded company management stuff is the only reason I played the game.

>>718214438
>>718218669
The fundamental gameplay loop isn't good.
I think mods can improve the feel of it, lubricate the wheels more so they don't squeak as much, polish the turd so it looks prettier, but it's still a shit.
It could be improved with way, way better missions that aren't based on fighting waves of randomly spawning enemies (also maybe like >>718219691) but I think this is beyond the devs.

>>718223641
>so I guess indie mech devs must be mad about it or something
I think it's the opposite in most scenarios. Mechwarrior 5 was king of steam for years because it literally had no other competition. Then AC6 came around and immediately took its throne, and now there's loads of indies coming out. Clans is floundering pretty bad because it's just not really what people wanted.
Modern mechwarrior completely crumbled the second it had any competition at all.

>>718222593
>Can anyone issue that kind of challenge?

Clan customs are quite odd. In theory yes, in practice warrior might reject challenge from someone vastly below his own rank/status. Jaden, in theory, could throw Trial of Grievance even against Perez but official rules were convoluted and lengthy (like having to petition directly to Clan Council or even Grand Council) to make people NOT attempt this. There are "illegal" variants where two warriors just draw imaginary circle around and fistfight, which is silently tolerated because of all fuss with "official" variant and because it solve the problem on the spot.

Clans are overall hilarious in their laws. Like how you would expect people being promoted in chain of command based on their tactical/strategic/logistical skills but instead are promoted based on being able to win duels. Urlic Kerensky was dangerous man precisely because he could do both but these are rare sight in Clan society.

>>718212220
>But is the game fun to play? Fun to learn? Fun to interact?
it gets old real fast. doesnt help that the devs tacked on the campaign in the last 12 mos of a 4 year dev cycle because they actually believed a PVE game did not need a campaign and procedurally generated content would be enough
>Can I just have my mech PMC and do random shit around the galaxy?
if you mean do the exact same missions for the next dozen hours or so then yes.
>The gameplay looks kinda fun, maybe stop talking about mods and what is better or not and just tell me about the fucking game.
the very best mods really only fix the very crappy AI, improves the lighting and graphics a bit and adds some mechs and custom missions. base game is dogshit. it really needs the dlcs. the dlcs range from good enough to practical cash grab. pirate it first before buying.

Also, citing Sarna:

>When the ComStar vessel Outbound Light was captured before the invasion of the Inner Sphere, a member of the ComStar crew asked what prevented a council member from casting a vote on the side they disagreed with if they knew it would lose so that, when they demanded a Trial of Refusal, the council member could bid an extremely low force that would definitely win the bidding but could not possibly win the trial. The suggestion that a warrior might consider this course of action was met with shock and frozen silence. One Loremaster refused any further interviews, and another prohibited the ComStar officers from any contact with the warriors of his Clan. Such a breach of honor is clearly unthinkable.

Autism driven society.

>>718223363
110% of 3/10 isn't that impressive

>>718210727 (OP)
>What am I in for?
being scammed. you play as biped tanks not mechs (as the boxart would imply). plus you need a mod that gives you deep customization to actually enjoy it
plus "lasers" are weightless pieces of shit

>>718224284
forgot about 90% of the game being DLCs too, I love to fork 100+ dolaridos for something as stupidly niche as this
at least it doesnt have pronouns and girlbosses like the battletech game...

faggots bump

>>718224358
>90% of the game being DLCs too
It's more like 60%. And it's a good 60%.

a game that is absolute shit without mods. it also runs like dogshit.

Aside from MW5 but not a bit shit, where does the series have to go from here? What's the dream game?

>>718210727 (OP)
Is there any point in starting now when the new dlc is coming soon? It's not as fun without mods.

>>718210727 (OP)
If no one has actually told you yet, you’re in for a sandbox style game where you take randomized missions with randomized OPFOR, with semi-customizable mechs. In between you’ll do more curated campaign or mini story missions that are much better. A solid 5-6/10 game but the AI for enemies and allies alike are dumber than a bag of hammers and you’ll have to baby sit your lance mates to get reasonable results from them. Very moddable though.

OK FAGGOTS NAME 10 MODS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO ENJOY THIS GAME
OR ELSE

>>718228025
All of them, download every mod.

>>718210727 (OP)
It's very boring to start with. It gets more interesting when you get to medium mechs, there's excitement in battles, dynamics and all that, and then you get to heavy and assault and the game turns into snails crawling on markers.

>>718227614
>What's the dream game?
Battletech/Mechwarrior rpg

>>718227614
Mechwarrior with all the megamek features.

>>718227943
Empirically speaking, now is the time when the most amount of mods will be working. It's at the end of the cycle, right before another dlc releases. So you could play now, with all the mods you want. It will take about a month for you to slog through all the story and DLC missions until you reach the end of the timeline, at which point you can get the Clans DLC and play that, albeit without most of the mods you've come to love.

>>718228127
Anon I'm not supposed to tell you this, but you can still play with the medium mechs in the late missions. It actually makes things more fun.

>>718228423
One-shots and the need to sit in a gamer pose for 10 minutes do not make the game more interesting for me.

>>718210727 (OP)
Dogshit, play this instead

>>718228475
See my pic >>718221420 where I took two kintaros into a max difficulty mission. I still came out in the black despite a little fuck up with one of the kintaros.

>>718227943
Just stop before Clan invasion happens.

>>718228767
Thanks for telling me how to play the game.
But I prefer to play my own way.

>>718229002
I'm telling you how you could play the game. You were telling me it wasn't possible to do this. You said I needed to "sit in a gamer pose for 10 minutes". I'm showing you an alternate path. One of fun, good times, and pleasant memories.

>>718229145
For me, a good time is a brawl like this https://files.catbox.moe/g3v1oy.webm
If your gameplay is not like this, we have nothing more to talk about.

>>718228767
The kintaro is an S-rank medium because SRMs are totally busted and have the highest DPS in the game. It's still a medium and it wants to be close so they tend to blow up though. If you don't want to have to pay out the nose for repairs, it matters. It's one of the strongest mechs in the game and it's still shaky to bring to 400 tonnage missions just because it doesn't have the armor to keep up without exploding eventually.
Once you're endgame money and parts don't mean anything so whatever lol

>>718229526
>because SRMs are totally busted and have the highest DPS in the game
As it should be.Vulture A, my beloved...

>>718229378
To your health, comrade.

>>718229378
>Van Nieves was in front of you for like a minute before you attacked him
>You were playing a Hunchback and not going full laser boat
You're damn right, we're fucking done here.

>>718229378
holy sovl kino
now i'm playing your game

>>718217727
>but the wars are actually tiny and maybe 0.1% of the population is military

That's only the case after the Fourth Succession war because the successor states finally figured out that massive fuck off wars of attrition forever was a bad idea. No point in ruling over the Inner Sphere if all that's left is a massive pile of rubble.

Also mechs and mechwarriors are actually only a very small part of wars in setting. They just have a massively disproportionate ability to affect the outcome of a planetary invasion since they are, you know, kind of the focus of the setting. There are billions of soldiers and millions of non-mech war machines, but they all get BTFO the moment a mech steps on to the battle field.

>>718219691
Mount and blade: mechwarrior
Its perfect in every way

>>718228025
The one that adds in hundreds of hot half naked sluts as AI pilots because it's cannon.

>>718228025
Atmospheric Vehicle Spawn

>>718230214
Sounds like that would just make any mechs without jump jets break their legs instantly.

>>718230214
I might try this. I did von biomes and I swear every fucking map has a hundred more laser turrets now. I mean it's pretty but goddamn.
>>718230424
Apparently they can have disposable drop packs in the tabletop.

>>718230724
I don't know if it works anymore, but the game was unplayable for me without it when I last tried. The way missions just dump hordes of enemies on you isn't what I want from a mechwarrior game.

>>718229378
I definitely need to download this shit again

>>718230724
>Still no Gundam MechWarrior mercenaries grunt suit styled game
it hurts.

Did they ever add more factions to fight in the random generated missions? Gets boring fighting the same factions over and over i wish I could kick comstars dick in on random assignments.

>>718231696
You fight them in the last mission of Mason's story.

>>718210727 (OP)
Pick up all the YAML mods and the TTrules AI mod and you're in for a good time. The base game is too easy to faceroll due to the AI being braindead and handicapped with standard loadouts otherwise.

>>718211169
You're confusing MechWarrior with MechAssault. The latter was for Xbox, and was quite different. Not garbage, though. Either that or Armored Core, which did come for the PlayStations 1, 2 and 3.

No MechWarrior game came out on consoles between 1997 and 2021, and thus never made it to the PS2.

>>718210727 (OP)
This game is sooooo boring

>>718232819
That one came out in 1997, thus my point still stands. MechWarrior 2 was on PS1 and Saturn.

>>718210727 (OP)
>What am I in for?
woke stuff with mistery meat girlbosses screaming and ordering around all the weak and effeminiate white boy bitch characters.

>>718233403
What?

The fatigue, ooooh, the fatigue....

You guys don't even know about the specifics of Jump Points in the MechWarrior universe. Jump Ships can only make jumps from areas with minimal gravity. Usually that means they jump into the top or bottom of a star system, then have shuttles fly a multiday journey towards the planets.

But sometimes, there's Lagrange points inside a solar system that let the jump ships come right in, assuming the pilot is skilled enough. These are called pirate points.

>>718232227
You fight them during the start of the 5th Succession Wars as well. We should probably be fighting Comstar more, with all the fucked up shit they do behind the scenes.

I like the way the weapons zoom works in Mechwarrior 3. Good game.

>>718233731
Yeah, and because jump capable ships can't just pop in right next to a planet, it means the defenders usually have several days to a weeks worth of time to prepare. Actual surprise attacks in Battletech are rare.

>>718233804
>the 5th Succession Wars
Motherfucker, MW5 Mercs takes place during the 3rd Succession war and I don't think Mason is living to the 5th.

>>718232227
Yeah but I mean more in the sense of the random generated missions you can pick up anywhere not the big story missions.

>>718234179
>MW5 Mercs takes place during the 3rd Succession war
Nope

>>718234415
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MechWarrior

>>718210727 (OP)
great lore

>>718234564
>Bulldog
my fav op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlHDe4KqQ64

>>718232415
thank you anon
are there any must-install mods for a newfag like me?

>>718235001
You're fine with vanilla, imo. You should figure out what you need as you go. I quickly got the skip intro and skip jump shilp cutscenes, for instance.

>>718236223
based
thank you
may your weekend AND your next week be plentiful and sweet

>>718222593
The clans have always been idiots. None of this is new. The eugenics bit is why the elementals don't just fistfight their way up to the top. Their lore is fucking absurd and each clan has their own weird way of doing things. The Smoke Jaguars were especially stupid most of the time

>>718210727 (OP)
To be honest here lads. I find this Clan business rather boring, i would enjoy a different era much more.

>>718235001
>Are there any must-install mods?
Besides the ones I already listed, no. There's plenty of QoL you'll want, like what the other guy said, but they're not required. Don't be afraid to experiment in the mechlab and try not to savescum too much. Losing a rare weapon, good pilot, or 'mech sucks, but it's part of the game and adds actual stakes to things.

Mechcommander 1>Mechwarrior 5

>>718234564
>Wikipedia
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/MechWarrior_5:_Mercenaries
The game starts durint the third succession war, yes. However it also covers up to (and soon including) the clan invasion.

>>718239167
Mechcommander 1 > many games

I love Battletech worldbuilding because it isn't a bunch of quirky chungus wordcels trying to prove their gay ideologies right, it's just about dudes who want power with no beliefs besides "my flag > yours"