Thread 718351551

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This is a thread for all things Undertale Yellow.
Feel free to post your fan creations or just jump into the conversation.
Glad to have you here!

>>718351551 (OP)
Awesome, lets keep up the momentum!

Here's to another engaging and discussion rich thread!

I've been thinking of giving shades of justice a shot, but I saw they are also looking for people to do more with it, though I imagine if they are adding more that could be months down the line since they didn't even have the people they were needing. Any idea how much is lacking?

Little heads up that another Undertale fangame, that features the Integrity Soul, and is meant to be prequel to Undertale Yellow was recently released.

https://gamejolt.com/p/aaaaand-it-s-out-have-fun-and-do-leave-some-feedback-at-this-goo-cmhnct8b

>>718351752
I'd assume certain interactions.
Since one of the biggest issues with Undertale Yellow in general was that it didn't flesh out the characters that should have had a lot interactions.
Martlet and Dalv were the biggest ones, and especially in Martlet's case, since she's supposed to have quite an emotionally bond with Clover.
In the base game, as many have pointed out, it pretty much just became a forced "Ceroba's game" which rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

>>718352146
to my understanding they already added some extra time that martlet traveled with clover but they did ask for new sprite artists right?

>>718351849
>abuse SAVEs to make things go her way
I'm curious to see how they're going to write her off.

>>718352325
I'm not fully up to date with what else their planning. But I guess their looking to add more.
Yeah they did add a lot more Martlet interactions, but still feels like somethings missing, or there's still some elements that can be fleshed out more.
They could also be trying to add another area with their mod.

>>718351849
it took me a long time to give yellow a shot, so I wont hold off forever this time but at the same time I'm going to wait a little bit on this. I dont want to experience red and yellow level character writing and I dont know anything about the people making this yet.

>>718352460
From the demo just before it ends, it shows becoming emotionally stressed out, causes her loads to fail.
I'm going to assume near the climax of the fangame, where she's running for her life she won't be able to save and load her way out of a problem.

>>718352586
Undertale Red and Yellow, is okay I guess?
I mean it adds a lot of interactions, and I mean A LOT of interactions.
It's nice, but even then it's a huge missed opportunity to to really flesh the game out.
It adds some new stuff, but not enough to make the overall game feel different.
It's pretty much still undertale but with a lot of extra banter between Clover and Chara.

>>718352952
the clover and chara dialogue is the kind of over quirky stuff that people misunderstand undertale to be. its nauseating, and seeing the same color highlight hair design for rainbow caused me to write it off instantly whether that was justified or not.

>>718352586
If your going to play Undertale Yellow, play it with the shades of Justice Mod, since it gives you a much experience playing the game,
The base Undertale Yellow is definitely playable buts it's missing a lot of stuff that the Shades of Justice mod aims to rectify.

>>718353083
>Martlet is Berdly's mom
imagine if Clover became Berdly's adopted brother.

>>718353512
I already did the base game, so im just not sure if I should really push myself to wait until whatever they are working on now if we have no idea what kind of time scale thats going to be on.

>reading a story about everyone trying to hide clover and deal with the consequences
>suddenly clover gets turned into a monster
oh fuck off that's such a cop out

>>718353083
>berdly transitions into martlet

>>718351551 (OP)
>>718351632
>>718351719
ok so what the fuck is up with you guy(s)?
this feels incredibly reddit.
>shallow positivity
>incapable of making anything other than copy pasted threads
>no other contributions
is it an attempt to give us bad rep? are you just lost redditor(s)?
whatever the case is, can you please stop and go back, we have a good thing going here and we dont want it ruined.

>>718351551 (OP)
I've never looked at any Undertale fan games because even though they might be something I'd like I fear the autism of Undertale fans making something

>>718353893
it's supposedly not that bad

>>718353836
those are the worst 4 words I've seen put together all day

>>718353893
it has a few moments where side characters will say something that feels horribly out of place, but Yellow grabbed me because despite those moments, its made with a lot of genuine sincerity. it's got some absolutely noticable failings in some places, and then its got some shockingly good moments at other times.

>>718353923
>>718354058
Then maybe I'll give it a look. Although now I looked at their webpage and I just learned that Toby is a Satanist

>Did Toby greenlight this?
>Kind of? But not quite. An email was sent to him before development began that basically said "Can we make an Undertale fangame?" to which he replied "Do what thou wilt."

>>718351551 (OP)
Am I the only one who think that the cast of UTY should absolutely be depressed as all hell over the whole letting a child commit suicide. Even if its the true pacifist, and there not guarantee that would happen there should be major consequences for clover actions.
Here my take on what happen to the crew after UTY true pacifist ending.
>Delv-When he find out, he'll be so disgusted by the three action that he'll refuse to do anything with them

>Starlo- At first would be totally in favor of clover, but after Delv grilling and as the other start to realize what they had done he'll go full blow into into denial mode. After Ceroba suicide Starlo fell fall into such a grief stricken that he would blame Marlet and clover for causing all of this. Over time he'll becomes so disgusted with anything to do with the two. which he'll abandoned the wild east and move to new home.

>Ceroba-. At first Ceroba would have that niggling feeling of guilt, but assume it because of what she did during the game. After Delv grilling the guilt thing will only get worse until eventually she and Marlet have a massive argument over clover until it hit her that she made the same mistake as Kanako. She'll fall numb and in a utter depression which Starlo and Marlet will try their best to save her... only to find the Ketsukane Estate completely engulfed in fire with only her staff and Kanako mask on the grave.

>Marlet-I feel she would not be totally on board to begin with, but with time she'll realize what she had done. After a tense argument with Ceroba which inadvertently left her utterly broken and would result in Ceroba suicide She would be in numb broken bird, doing anything to keep herself distracted just to make it to the next day, but there isn't a day that goes by that don't haunt her or beat herself up.

Also Flowely would be tormenting Marlet and Starlo the entire time :)

>>718353842
Ironically this your post feels more like a reddit response more than the posts that you highlighted.

>>718354274
I dont think there are very many unironic crowley style satanists in existence. its a funny phrase and I knew someone growing up that used it all the time and is a hardline christian.

>>718353836
No. Just absolutely no.

>>718354278
letting a child off themself is so out of character for any of these people it's wild that's what they have as the ending

>>718354278
honestly it says a lot that a lot of stories of the characters coping after the fact have ceroba finally realizing that clover was a mirror to kanako , and that martlet failed to protect a child. it shows a lot that despite how much people love the story, that ending gets re-written so aggressively.

I also think that the kind of justice that martlet seems to believe in with how she gives clover so many chances that she would be second in line to absolutely refuse clovers suicide. I get the impression with how she tried to see the good in people despite what chujin told her that she wouldn't accept a "justice" that didn't also mean justice for clover. At the very least shades of justice has them stay at his side

>>718354274
What's satanic about that phrase?

>>718354274
its a funny phrase, anon.

First for Koke

>>718354278
I’m glad none of you wrote UTY

>>718351551 (OP)
is there a true ending mod yet?

>>718355296
No, and it doesn't seem that one is in development either.

>>718355296
>true ending
>on a non-canonical prequel that retcons the original game
come on

>>718354278
This topic comes up a lot in these threads, and in the /vrpg/, but there really just wasn't a good way around it honestly.
Long story short, keeping Clover alive in the underground for an extended period of time just isn't feasible, especially given how the other 5 humans before them were torn to shreds despite only one of them being implied to have been in any way violent. Plus, Clover having a soul of justice means they probably wouldn't have been too happy continuing to live knowing they have the power to put monsterkind one step closer to freedom, so I doubt it'd sit right with them even if they were somehow safe.
It's dumb that the main cast acquiesced to Clover's sacrifice as quickly as they did, but I don't think it's unreasonable for it to have happened at all. As another anon said, Shades of Justice handled it way better.
Also, to be fair, the original UT has it's main cast letting Frisk do shit they absolutely shouldn't be doing, so it's not like UTY is especially egregious in that regard.

>>718355648
autism anon.......

>>718355668
>Long story short, keeping Clover alive in the underground for an extended period of time just isn't feasible
we've had extensive conversations where people have proposed ways it could work out, and putting the monsters one step closer to freedom doesn't mean anything when the next soul isn't here yet. this has by no means been a one sided discussion
as for frisk, to be fair they had become convinced by dealing with frisk themselves that he would be ok. letting the child go into danger because they've shown they can handle it is irresponsible but letting them kill themselves directly in front of you is another story

>>718355668
The ending would have been completely fine if instead of committing suicide, Clover had just gone down fighting against Asgore, with a proper unwinnable fight, not what the pacifist ending did.
I went into the game accepting that Clover was going to die at the end, but it was how he died that made me seethe for months.

>>718355946
>Clover had just gone down fighting against Asgore, with a proper unwinnable fight, not what the pacifist ending did.
Flawed pacifist. That's in the game, it's called the flawed pacifist ending. You get that one by killing Ceroba at the end of her fight.

>>718355946
the unwinnable fight should have been winnable but superboss level hard for a secret ending with clover living underground until he dies at which point the monsters get his soul anyways. after all, when you beat asgore in pacifist in undertale he actually offers something like that before giving up his own soul.

>>718356021
That's it. I haven't played since release day.

>>718355668
>continuing to live knowing they have the power to put monsterkind one step closer to freedom
this falls apart the moment you realize that they only have six souls

>>718355927
>we've had extensive conversations where people have proposed ways it could work out
In theory, but the odds are still ridiculously stacked against them on multiple fronts, but as I said before, we've had this argument already and I don't care to kill this thread just to rehash it.
>as for frisk, to be fair they had become convinced by dealing with frisk themselves that he would be ok.
Toriel genuinely believes with all her heart, based on her experiences with the previous fallen humans, that if Frisk goes out into the rest of the underground, that they will be killed by Asgore or by the other monsters. She believes this with such conviction that she's willing to permanently cave in the exit to the ruins, trapping everyone inside forever.
Then Frisk talks her out of it over the course of a few minutes. Toriel lets a child venture out into what she genuinely believes to be certain doom because she got talked down over a 5 minute fight.
It's not as direct as UTY, but Toriel's effectively letting a child kill themself here. If Frisk wasn't being controlled by the player and didn't have the ability to save and load, Frisk probably wouldn't have made it all the way to Asgore alive. It happened to all the previous fallen humans (ignoring yellow for a sec), and Frisk by themself doesn't actually seem to be particularly powerful without their time manipulation (as in, without the Player's control), so for all Toriel knew, Frisk could've been skewered the second they walked out of the ruins.

>>718356449
>this falls apart the moment you realize that they only have six souls
I said "one step closer" dumbass, I didn't say the barrier was gonna break instantly.

>>718356163
The problem with that is Flowey. He might accept Clover dying, but he's unlikely to accept Clover living underground until he dies or Frisk shows up.

>>718356515
>kill this thread
well it wouldnt kill the thread to have some discussion but when you assert something that isn't agreed on so universally as if it was the fixed truth you invite that same discussion.
>toriel
toriel is a mess of her own, that tells them to never return because they wouldnt live the way she wanted. I think its best to leave her out of that because she's got issues much the same as asgore they just dont go as noticed since "goat mom".

>>718356576
honestly his excuse for why he lets things go in pacifist are flimsy as is, and tons of stories people have written have flowey making a similar excuse of "this idiot is a waste of time, im going to wait for the next human". he's not a master strategist and is written somewhat oddly in yellow. hell honestly it feels like they had to bend logic to force him into the game at all.

>>718356570
I like to think that clover knows that killing himself won't do anything because they only have six I mean

>>718355946
I've brought up the idea a lot in these threads, but I think a decent way of handling it would've been to have Clover make a break for Asgore's castle while the main cast is arguing about what to do with them. Then you can have Clover lose their soul to Asgore, and maybe stumble out of the castle towards their friends to see them one last time before dying.
Not sure how you'd make it work tonally, since it'd be massive tonal whiplash (not to mention technically making Asgore the actual final boss instead of Ceroba, which kinda just feels weird), but I could see it working somehow as an alternate ending. I don't actually want to outright replace the current true pacifist ending, I think a SoJ style modification to it works just fine.
Alternatively, you could also address the issue with the true pacifist ending by just making Clover a bit older. Not like a grizzled adult cowboy or anything, maybe just somewhere around the same age as Kris in DR.

>>718356570
"one step closer" is a meaningly statement when you cant break the barrier any more with 6 souls than with 5. theres no benefit to clover dying sooner rather than later which is also why some stories have him agreeing to live underground until the next human falls. they dont know when the next human is going to fall, it could be 100 years from their perspective and suddenly there's absolutely no reason why clover shouldn't have lived out his full life.

>>718356764
>I like to think that clover knows that killing himself won't do anything because they only have six I mean
Why? Like, actually why?
Also, obviously it does something, it means they have one less soul to collect before breaking the barrier. It's called incremental progress.

>>718356021
I don’t hate Ceroba but I view flawed pacifist as the canon ending. Especially when you read the ball game dialogue about the yellow soul.
>YELLOW - Your sure-fire accuracy put an end to the mayhem of “Ball.”
“Ball” = Ceroba.

>>718353842
these threads have been getting way too many redditors for quite a while, last thread had retards directly linking reddit to talk about fucking ceroba cuck comics

>>718356909
>incremental progress
that does zero additional good until the next soul is found. the other humans dying in random places was never an issue for getting their soul so its not a risk of clover dying somewhere random. there's no added justice from clover dying now instead of after theres an additional human. its hamfisted, serving just to ensure that the ending fits into canon instead of leaving things more open.

>>718356998
thats been happening for about a month now and I think its one specific person who thinks a dramatic story like that is what we need to become active even though we hit bump limit without talking about that.
the conga line edit was funny though

>>718356861
>there's absolutely no reason why clover shouldn't have lived out his full life.
Aside from constantly having to hide them from the more hostile monsters in the underground which we know exist like hiding from the gestapo, and that Clover themself probably still wouldn't be comfortable knowing that they have the power to help end monsterkind's imprisonment sooner, and the fact that Flowey exists and absolutely wouldn't let that happen, etc.
Keeping Clover alive would've been a massive challenge just Because of Flowey alone. There's literally a secret "ending" in-game where if you wait for Toriel to come back in the dark ruins and take her rope back up, Flowey appears and instantly resets. That's about what would happen if Clover tried to live peacefully in the underground. I mean, Flowey kills Martlet and tries to take Clover's soul when Clover accepts Martlet's offer to live with her in a neutral route, so I really don't seem Flowey doing anything other than hammering the reset button if Clover tries to hide away.
That alone completely kills any argument for Clover living in the underground.

>>718356967
it makes a lot of sense, when I ran through the game I tried to think of why clover would spare people that were technically or literally guilty, and the answer I came up with was that courts can take into consideration when someone commits a crime because they were under duress, and all of monster kind was under duress because of a greater crime inflicted by humanity. while I don't like the clover suicide ending how it played out, I feel like its kind of a "monsters are not guilty by way of extenuating circumstances. Humanity is guilty". otherwise it doesn't make sense for clover to also further the possibility of the monsters bringing war back to humanity

>>718357095
>thats been happening for about a month
Pfft, please.
That comic's only about two weeks old.
Doesn

>>718357301
>which we know exist like hiding from the gestapo
making the royal guard sound more competent than they really are doesn't solve this when we all played undertale and know how this goes.
>end monsterkinds imprisonment sooner
they dont, they cant, they are still limited to waiting until the next person falls and dying before that literally helps no one.
>flowey
already addressed, it makes no sense why he lets the pacifist ending happen as is. if anything he might find this new route an interesting distraction while waiting for another human after giving up on clover. he's not a mastermind, he's a bored child.why does he have the somber sign off calling clover friend and letting him rest in pacifist? its jarring and only exists because the writers backed themselves into a corner with adding flowey to the game at all. tons of sensibly put together stories have come up with answers and solutions to the things (possibly) you insist are impossible obstacles in every thread. You've got a fixation on clovers heroic death when the way it plays out makes no sense until another person falls underground. hell clover might even be able to put flowey at bay by just telling him "we need to wait until another human falls underground" which may actually work because the idea of getting 7 souls instead of 6 could easily work on flowey who is asriel, a retarded child.

>>718357757
there's also that story about flowey getting into the idea of encouraging them to all bond together and overthrow asgore as an alternate strategy to get the souls.
>>718357361
they got anon, he's fucking dead

>>718356909
Incremental progress means nothing when its reliant on pure random chance. It could be a hundred years before the next human falls down, or he could never fall at all, or he could kill Asgore and leave the monsters even more hopeless than before. Clover is killing himself for what could in all likelyhood be nothing.

>>718357757
>why does he have the somber sign off calling clover friend and letting him rest in pacifist?
it reminded him of chara, who also sacrificed their life for monsterkind

>>718356576
I've thought about this too, and Flowey really does throw a wrench into the "secret good ending" idea. Here's a take I just came up with where it could possibly be resolved:

Clover beats Asgore within an inch of his life, and then a similar scene to when Frisk beats him in UT happens. The two talk things out (remember Clover was straight up willing to give his soul to the monsters in the official ending). After understanding Clover truly does empathise with the monsters, Asgore makes the offer of guaranteeing him a peaceful life underground in exchange for his soul when he dies. The end credits show scenes of his new life underground, with Flowey suspiciously absent, until the very end where the game abruptly restarts and deletes your save file. In actuality, Flowey just immediately reset since this timeline was a dead end.

But really, as much as I like the character, Flowey's presence in the game really sours even the official ending (sans genocide). If he wasn't in the game, this ending could have been legit and not just a bitter rugpull.

>>718357969
ok then so "flowey we need to wait until we have another human. there's no point sacrificing myself now"
"oh wow this reminds me of chara but also plays at my desire to get even more souls. I will go along with this because after all whats to stop me from just coming back in time and changing things because I have no idea that the next child to fall is going to take my powers and theres no way I would count on something like that!"
Flowey was such a lopsided addition yet its easy to just write around him and have it make sense when you remember what he actually is.

>>718357757
>making the royal guard sound more competent than they really are doesn't solve this when we all played undertale and know how this goes.
Undyne's still an issue, and there are hostile monsters other than the guard to worry about. For example, Mettaton's trying to kill Frisk for entirely selfish reasons unrelated to breaking the barrier, he just wants to go to the surface by himself. Plus, the other five humans were all killed throughout the underground, potentially by completely random monsters, so it's possible Clover could simply be torn to shreds by a random jobber enemy as soon as they leave any designated "safe" area. All the fallen human's equipment can be found pretty close to the "civilized" areas in the underground, so that means the safe areas consist of a few small towns and nothing more. Venture too far outside Snowdin or the Dunes and Clover's probably gonna die to a random encounter, not even necessarily a guard.
>already addressed, it makes no sense why he lets the pacifist ending happen as is.
Because the entire implication of the game is that Flowey's been through all this god knows how many times by now, and has come to the conclusion that there's no way for him to get his hands on Clover's soul with the limited possibilities he has at that point.
>clover might even be able to put flowey at bay by just telling him "we need to wait until another human falls underground"
Except that Clover doesn't know that Flowey wants the souls for himself and absolutely wouldn't help him get them for himself because of their justice ideology. Clover literally kills Flowey after Flowey says he wants the souls for himself in the genocide route, it makes no sense at all for Clover to argue from that angle.

>>718357886
Sorry, captcha wonked out on me.
"Doesn't time fly when you're having fun?"
Anyway, if I have to put up with Shu posting then I'm gonna be Haishin posting.
I wasn't even the only one doing it, some kind accomplice was generous enough to post the first three parts as images in the thread for me.

>'Sacred War' refers to the Luftwaffe as the "black wings"
>Zenith Martlet has black wings
I swear TNO is making me a schizo.

>>718355296
I'm working on it

>>718358554
Why do I get the feeling that someone's going to draw Zartlet as a nazi now? Not even directly because of your post, I just feel like your post here has created some kind of time echo that's going to cause an image like that to spontaneously pop into existence.

>>718358657
Any chance you'll tell us what you're planning?

>>718358334
>Except that Clover doesn't know that Flowey wants the souls for himself and absolutely wouldn't help him get them for himself because of their justice ideology. Clover literally kills Flowey after Flowey says he wants the souls for himself in the genocide route, it makes no sense at all for Clover to argue from that angle.
>hey clover why aren't you going to asgore?
>because I should wait until another human falls down. nothing can be changed without all of the souls after all
boom, clover doesn't have to know, just by revealing his plan flowey could decide "2 humans underground at once? that sounds very interesting. the perfect cure for boredom"

and we have already established before that in uty areas you've previously gone to stop getting random encounters. sure metaton could send mercenaries after him and maybe they'll get clover or maybe they wont. its still viable either way and retreading this conversation will just come around to you saying "why do you think there's no way clover could die" and like last time because no i'm sure this is the same anon I'll say "im not I just think there's also ways he could live". But again clover could travel the whole of the snowdin all the way to the steamworks safely and this is evident in game.
>undyne could chase him down
interesting that undyne is limited in how far she'll even chase you in undertale like she wants to keep things to a certain area or something. for as much attention to detail toby had it really scratches my brain.

>>718358681
Oh no.

>>718358657
I hope you actually finish it, unlike the last three guys that tried.

>>718359112
>unlike the last three guys that tried.
Godot anon was the first, who were the other 2?

>>718359206
Hard mode anon was planning on doing a fixed ending and I seem to remember there being a third. Maybe it was that guy who tried remaking UTY in a newer version of gamemaker.

>>718359278
Didn't FnFanon want to add a fixed ending too?

>>718358789
>flowey could decide "2 humans underground at once? that sounds very interesting. the perfect cure for boredom"
We already see that Flowey's wary of waiting for another human to fall after Clover dies anyway because of the potential risk of losing his time powers, he absolutely wouldn't want *multiple* humans in the underground at the same time.
Also, if it could theoretically be a century before the next human falls, then that doesn't work for this angle anyway, since Clover almost certainly wouldn't live long enough to actually be alive by the time the next human falls anyway.
>interesting that undyne is limited in how far she'll even chase you in undertale like she wants to keep things to a certain area or something.
It's almost like the game only has a finite amount of walkable space that you have access to at that point in the game. She'll literally chase you all the way back to the door to the ruins, I see no reason why she wouldn't be willing to head out into east Snowdin or the steamworks, or the dunes, or anything like that. And yes, as we've also established, Hotland is hotter than both the dunes and the steamworks, so those areas wouldn't necessarily be safe from her either.
>retreading this conversation will just come around to you saying "why do you think there's no way clover could die" and like last time because no i'm sure this is the same anon I'll say "im not I just think there's also ways he could live".
Unless I'm replying to a different guy here, you literally said there's "no reason" Clover had to die at the end of true pacifist, and I'm giving out plenty of reasons. That's my point here. You're treating Clover's death like it just came out of nowhere and happened for no reason, when the real case is that while keeping Clover alive wouldn't have been literally *impossible* it would've been so monumentally difficult that it probably would've been more trouble that it's worth, which is probably how Clover would've seen things.

im bored.
still not DRY2 update but i'll do greens, hit me.

>>718359429
I just want them to be happy

>>718359429
DRY Martlet accidentally becomes the Zenith version of herself.

>>718359429
Maybe a little cliche, but how about either the main cast running into Sans in the judgement hall while bringing Clover's soul to Asgore, or Clover and Martlet running into Sans in the judgement hall while heading to Asgore during a flawed pacifist route?
I'm curious what Sans would have to say to them in either case. He is a judge, after all.

>>718359372
>anyway because of the potential risk of losing his time powers,
does he actually bring this up in yellow? he seems completely surprised in original UT when you take his powers
>It's almost like the game only has a finite amount of walkable space that you have access to at that point in the game.
and she wont even backtrack all of it to chase you backwards to places we know for a fact she goes to.
>"no reason" Clover had to die at the end of true pacifist
thats a misunderstanding of meaning. there's a lot of ways he could have ended up dying reasonably. I'm saying in terms of him giving up his soul. him giving up his soul now isntead of later is the "no reason" thing. yes someone could end up killing him, its very plausible but giving his soul up when they only have 5 is what there's no reason for. there's nothing incremental about it, as far as everyones concerned is nerf or nothing and we dont have nerf souls yet.

>more trouble than its worth
martlet if nothing else should have adamantly believed the oppositve based on everything we know about her. Ceroba should have believed the opposite because she should have seen that this was just like what she let happen to kanako. you say monumentally difficult but over multiple threads we've discussed tons of ways it could happen tons of ways that the people that are on his side could have helped. we dont have any evidence that the other monsters made friends of entire towns but we do know that clover has a good set of friends. That doesn't mean he wont get gunned down in the streets but theres no good reason for his friends to not try when clovers death isn't even the last soul they need.

>>718359429
chujin in the great beyond watching ceroba doom another child for no real reason

>>718359792
>does he actually bring this up in yellow? he seems completely surprised in original UT when you take his powers
I actually don't blame you for not knowing about that one, but load up the game again after doing a true pacifist ending. Flowey has some post-game dialogue about him thinking about whether or not he should try again with Clover or if he should just wait and see how things play out, and one of the things he mentions if the possibility of losing his powers, which he considers a bad thing. I don't know if it appears every time you beat the game, or if it's randomized and there's a dialogue pool it draws from each time, but it appeared for me the first time I beat the game on true pacifist. Obviously the genocide and neutral endings don't display this screen also.
>there's nothing incremental about it
Eh, that's not necessarily true. Alphys was working on an experiment to be able to access the power of monster's souls, that's what created the amalgamates. While *that* part of her research was a dead end, her research into creating a vessel capable of utilizing human and monster souls was a massive success, since it created Flowey, who was able to break the barrier with the power of the six human souls and the souls of monsters. So they technically didn't actually need 7 human souls in total, just an equivalent amount of power. If they didn't have Clover's soul, Flowey wouldn't have had the necessary soul power to break the barrier.
Given that Alphys was explicitly working under the idea of using monster souls to make up for not having a seventh human soul, we can argue that some people in the underground may have actually known this was possible other than her, meaning Clover's sacrifice still was worth it even without a seventh soul.

>>718359834
He'd be cheering because its a ningen. And then seething when she gives up the soul instead of using it.

>>718360378
>one of the things he mentions if the possibility of losing his powers, which he considers a bad thing.
I'll give you this if thats in the game but its also out of character for flowey, not to say he isn't out of character in yellow a lot. he's not this grand planner, he's a kid with too much power and a bunch of toys
> Alphys was working on an experiment to be able to access the power of monster's souls,
these characters dont know that, and alphys failed and basically went to doing nothing so I think its very fair to discard that from their decision making.
>If they didn't have Clover's soul
again, this isn't about him never giving up his soul but theres no reason for him to give it up then and there. if nothing else even if flowey would reset, and theres still justifications like "flowey finds this new route interesting maybe it will lead to something after all the headaches clover has given him" theres still no rush from clover and his friends perspective to give up the soul then and there.

>>718359792
>martlet if nothing else should have adamantly believed the oppositve based on everything we know about her.
Martlet should've resisted more, sure.
>Ceroba should have believed the opposite because she should have seen that this was just like what she let happen to kanako.
Honestly, not really? I do agree that Ceroba, all of the main cast actually, should've put up a bit more of a fight against Clover's idea, but I disagree with the idea that what Clover did was all that similar to what happened with Kanako. Clover's idea was explicitly to sacrifice themself, they knew they would die if they went through with it, that was the point. When Ceroba and Kanako did what they did, neither one of them really seemed to think that anything bad was going to happen, they thought the integrity sample was perfectly safe (for some fucking reason), and genuinely didn't expect what happened next. That's just not really the same situation, where Clover dying is basically the whole idea, not some unexpected consequence.

>>718360671
>but I disagree with the idea that what Clover did was all that similar to what happened with Kanako
it is explicitly a child doing something dangerous (this time we know ahead of time its fatal) to right wrongs that weren't theirs to right. it was children taking on risks, danger and suffering to bear the weight of the world. its the exact same conceptually, and knowing that clover is 100 percent dead in this decision makes it even more damning. Everything thematic about the situations scream and point to this conclusion. the specifics of the situations are different but that doesn't mean anything. it was putting a child in harms way for the greater good when regardless whether we know that child is going to die or not, is the wrong choice for an adult and a mother to make. Ceroba was robbed of this very important character development

>>718360623
>he's not this grand planner, he's a kid with too much power and a bunch of toys
I agree, he isn't some cunning mastermind, that's why he ends up waiting and losing his power.
I actually think Flowey is written pretty damn well in UTY, since just about any time he tries to directly fight someone and get what he wants, it always blows up in his face. He doesn't get his hands on Clover's soul in pacifist, he can't get Clover to submit in neutral, and Clover outright kills him in genocide. Flowey's a manipulator, but he's bad at direct confrontation, which we also see in UT.
>these characters dont know that, and alphys failed and basically went to doing nothing so I think its very fair to discard that from their decision making.
Ceroba would know, she gave up Kanako's body to Alphys for her experiment, and I imagine the families of the test subjects were informed about what the experiment was actually for, since we know that all the test subjects were chosen because they were fallen down and close to death, and the whole point of the experiment was to harvest the monster's souls, which we know from the data entries in the true lab. So, it's not unreasonable to say that Ceroba might have some knowledge about that (maybe also Martlet since she broke into the true lab as seen in the genocide route, but I digress), so it's possible it could've been a factor even if they didn't say anything.
>but theres no reason for him to give it up then and there.
I'm giving plenty of reasons. Again, while there may have been some ways around it, the odds really just weren't in their favor, with Flowey alone being the biggest obstacle to deal with. Even ignoring him, you'd still have to worry about other monsters that may not see things your way, and the fact that Clover themself genuinely may just not want to in the context of a true pacifist route.

>>718358787
I believe I said this a year ago (time flies...) but there'll be new stuff for paci and geno
>>718359112
I'll get it done eventually. for now you'll just have to wait

To the crack theory anon:

I had a fun idea, what if you swapped some of the lightners' designs for their beta designs. So instead of retail Noelle, we get beta Noelle. If you want a less extreme change, you could use her ch 1 sprite instead of her ch 2 one.

>>718361296
make noelle wear a different christmas sweater every chapter.

>>718360915
>it is explicitly a child doing something dangerous (this time we know ahead of time its fatal) to right wrongs that weren't theirs to right.
Yeah, that's kinda the point. The ending is supposed to be sad, it's someone giving up their life to correct and injustice created years before their time. The ending is literally about Clover dying to bring justice, they're a justice soul after all.
That aside, my point is that they're both wrong in different ways Ceroba shouldn't have injected Kanako because that was very obviously dangerous since the exact same integrity sample is what killed Chujin, she shouldn't have assumed it was safe and she shouldn't have used it on her daughter. That whole section feels really out of character for her, and that's because it technically was, since that whole bit was a holdover from the earlier iteration of her story, and we all know the deal with that shit.
As for Clover's death, it's different because everyone knows going in that Clover's going to die. It's the whole point, giving up their soul to free monsterkind later on.
My point here isn't that Ceroba's reaction to Clover's idea isn't bad, it's that it's not the same kind of bad as what happened with Kanako.

>>718361156
>and I imagine the families of the test subjects were informed about what the experiment was actually for
all we know is that they asked for monsters that had fallen down.
>I'm giving plenty of reasons.
and I've given plenty to the contrary as to why that doesn't make any sense
>flowey
again its so easy to write a way to put him off because he's literally a child playing with toys. if he thinks this will be interesting this is the most likely way he would get back to waiting
>flowey is written well
he's written well in a vacuum as a character in uty but not in connection to original. his ability to scheme is dogshit and seeing something new is of great value to him when he's "seen everything"

>>718361528
them knowing that clover is going to die literally changes nothing about the parallels because in the first place children should not be forced to make decisions that put them in harms way for the good of the many. Cerobas reaction to his idea is absolutely disastrous because she should have seen this.

>>718361296
I was planning that for Susie and sorta Ralsei (bringing back the hat), but I forgot Noelle had a slightly different beta design too. Thanks for the idea.
Kris doesn't have a different beta design, but I was considering changing the light world shirt to Frisk's. That might be redundant given the dark world design, though

>>718361390
I'm an awful sprite artist but that's a really fun idea. I'll definitely keep it in mind

I love Flowey in UTY, but his presence just makes the whole plot a mess (see how we all struggle to rewrite the pacifist ending with him around).

UTY's story could have been a lot better if you erased him and pushed the timeline back a few decades.

>>718361821
even if I love afterlife and best friends forever I'd have to agree. It feels like unnecessary story baggage that doesn't even serve the purpose flowey exists for writing wise

>>718361628
>children should not be forced to make decisions that put them in harms way for the good of the many.
That's my point dumbass, that's my whole point, Ceroba and Kanako *didn't* know that what they were doing was dangerous, that's the difference! The main cast knew that Clover was going to die, but Ceroba and Kanako thought that what they were doing was safe and didn't expect anything to go wrong, meaning the actual attitude Ceroba had for each of these was inherently different, which is why I'm saying they're both written poorly for different reasons. For what happened with Kanako, Ceroba was acting stupidly by assuming the same sample that killed Chujin wouldn't have any negative effects on Kanako and that she'd fixed all the problems. For what happened with Clover, Ceroba was acting moreso with outright disregard for everything that had happened so far, not ignorance like with Kanako. They're *similar* situations, but they aren't one and the same.
To be clear, I'm not saying Ceroba agreeing to Clover's idea is good writing, I'm absolutely not saying that, I'm saying it's a different kind of bad by highlighting the differences.

>>718361821
>see how we all struggle to rewrite the pacifist ending with him around
I don't. Literally just have Clover die in a slightly different way, then have Flowey go "alright, looks like I've exhausted every possibility with this kid, guess I'll try my luck at waiting for another and see how that plays out." like he does if you choose to "wait" instead of resetting like he already does.
Flowey isn't an issue for UTY at all, a lot of people just really don't understand his actual power and influence and paint him as an unstoppable force who always gets what he wants, when in actuality he's a manipulator who rarely gets what he wants in direct confrontation and has to work from the shadows in order for things to go his way.

>>718362149
Didn't say it was impossible to write around him. UTY did quite the miracle for it to work as well as it did. But he still shuts down a lot of possibilities of how things could go, simply by how much agency he takes away from Clover and the player.

>>718359429
Something to do with one of the Ketsukanes having a cunning plan because foxes are cunning.
>as cunning as a fox what used to be Professor of Cunning at Oxford University but has moved on and is now working for the U.N. at the High Commission of International Cunning Planning

>>718361960
>that's the difference!
I'm saying that conceptually it makes no difference at all and I'm being excessively clear about that. it makes absolutely no difference because using experimentally drugs that "should be fine" on a child is putting them into harms way. they are thematically the same thing, a child in harms way, she didn't realize in time that what she was doing was horribly foolish with kanako but now she can see the writing on the tin with clover and should recognize its the same damn thing, a child trying to bear the weight of the world. especially considering what kanako says how chujin would have lived longer without her. its a child taking the problems of the world and trying to bear that burden when it isn't their burden to bear. You're off your fucking rocker is what you are, ceroba even expresses appropriate doubts until she gives into kanakos request. She's even tearing up during the whole thing and its not "happy tears" sprites. its not "oh nothing could go wrong" expressions. she allowed a child to put herself in harms way because the risks were outweighed in her head at that moment and so she let a child do something an adult should never do even if the child asks nicely.

>>718361821
Someone should mod UTY without Flowey. It'd mostly be pretty easy to do besides the neutral ending. Just change a few lines of code and edit some cutscenes.
For neutral you could swap Flowey's fight with Starlo and add a new cutscene to support it. Feisty Four could take Starlo's place in the Dunes, just make their fight longer.

>>718362342
>I'm saying that conceptually it makes no difference at all and I'm being excessively clear about that.
>now she can see the writing on the tin with clover and should recognize its the same damn thing
You have literally identified the difference yourself, and you still can't see it. Incredible. The difference literally is that she knows the full situation with Clover but didn't with Kanako, which is what makes them bad in different way. She knew she was letting Clover die and went along with it anyway, whereas she genuinely thought Kanako would be fine after some convincing, and went along with it. Even if she had some doubts, she still didn't expect Kanako to fall down as a result of the injection, so clearly she didn't think that was going to happen, there's a clear difference.

>>718362640
I have highlighted how these technical differences do not change the overarching conceptual similarity and I have done so several times in serveral different ways and explained how not knowing then does not change a thing about the core issue here. if clover was an adult it would be different, martlet herself would still likely speak up but it would make more sense for ceroba to let it slide. Ceroba didn't need to know everything that was going to happen, the fact is a child was allowed to put themselves in harms way under her watch. even if the injection actually worked it would have still been the irresponsible thing as the adult in the situation. the differences you are pointing out mean nothing in this situation because it is adults allowing children to make decisions that they should not be making.

I am still so very new to drawing, I can not fathom how to draw a wing. seeing how martlet is drawn I can see that not every feather is drawn, but when I look at the page and my attempts to make a wing happen I just look at that whole space and my brain asks me what the fuck im supposed to do next

>>718362305
>simply by how much agency he takes away from Clover and the player.
I mean, that is kinda the point of the game, not even just Flowey's inclusion in the game. The whole idea is that Clover's fate is sealed, with their soul being taken one way or another no matter what, except for the genocide ending which is meant to completely derail things.
Flowey shutting down possibilities is part of the point, he's railroading you into getting what he wants, that's why he's guiding you throughout the whole game.

>>718362556
What happens if you kill Starlo in neutral?

>>718362918
This may be a bit unhelpful depending on how skilled you are, but try only matching the general outline of her wing arms with a sketch, then worry about the finer stuff later on. Like, study the basic shape of her wings first, and add the more individual feathers later.
It'll take time, but it'll come to you.

>>718363095
I'm gonna keep at it but its been frustrating, I just hardly got to be able to put a whole body together from someones suggestion to make a stick figure base, this falls in line with that advice in a way. Her sprites seem like a somewhat limited source to go off of but they released an art book recently right?

>>718362556
I'm not really convinced that makes sense from a story perspective. Starlo doesn't really strike me as final boss material in any real context, but I especially don't see why he'd be the final boss of a neutral run, especially since UTY's neutral runs end with you being set back to the start, but what could Starlo possibly do that would force a reset like that by himself? inb4 that dumb "Sirius Starlo" idea gets brought up. It's a neat design, but you'd have to upend the entire story of UTY in order for that to happen, and it just really doesn't make any sense.

>>718363248
>its a neat design
thats honestly enough for me to post the one image I have of it over and over. the only way I can see it making sense though myself is making it a mirror of how he embraces his normal self more in other routes. in this route instead he could get lost even more in his little roleplay, and maybe if it only happens in more violent neutral runs have it be him getting consumed by that persona "to stop the bad guy"

>>718363217
>but they released an art book recently right?
I think it was sometime last year, but yeah, that could help. There's a link to it on the UTY gamejolt account, I can fetch it for you here: https://gamejolt.com/p/the-undertale-yellow-art-book-is-here-xyr9ikua
Anyway, as an artist myself, I can tell you you're heading in the right direction. It's going to be frustrating, and things won't really look exactly how you'll want them too for a while, but you'll get there soon enough if you keep at it.
And hey, don't forget to come back here and post what you make, if it's UTY related anyway. I'm sure people around here would love to see new people making new things, myself included.

>>718363486
while I've wanted to draw for a long time, I've never had the motivation to spend time on it every day (and not feel like its wasted time) until the inspiration hit me again in these threads, and it hasn't felt so bad sitting down to try every day even if its frustrating, so hopefully I can keep at it. my ability is rock bottom right now worse than mspaint doodles so I appreciate the nudge in the right direction. honestly I think it was martlet/zeniths general design that just captivated me and made me think "oh man I wish I could do that"

Honestly, I wouldn't mind Clover dying as the ending if it at least involved his soul being destroyed to make sure it can't be used to destroy humanity.

>>718361296
An ambitious idea for a complete redesign would be to turn all light world characters into humans and all dark world characters into monsters. I can see why Toby didn't go for it but it would still make for a fun game idea.
>>718363713
Just keep at it! You'll be dissatisfied at first but over time, like with anything, you'll get better at it.

>>718363849
What would Dark World Kris look like?

>>718363912
he's da dawg

>>718363849
>An ambitious idea for a complete redesign would be to turn all light world characters into humans and all dark world characters into monsters
I don't think he should do that. Monsters are most of the appeal of this series, and humans in that artstyle are ugly as hell. (see that Susie)

>>718363713
>my ability is rock bottom right now worse than mspaint doodles
Yeah, a lot of artists can relate to that, even ones who are practically masters of it now. I'm no art god myself, but I certainly remember starting at that tier a few years back, and I've come a decent way since then, if my work's reception over on esix is anything to go by.
It'll take a bit of time, but you'll honestly be surprised at how quickly you can develop your skills just by keeping at it. You don't necessarily have to draw every single day, I've found that trying to draw about one thing a week has worked alright for me. I'm definitely better now than I was just a few months ago, but it probably varies for everyone.
Good luck on the road ahead, and stay determined.

>>718363840
>Honestly, I wouldn't mind Clover dying as the ending if it at least involved his soul being destroyed to make sure it can't be used to destroy humanity.
What the hell man.

>>718364070
It's the part that always bugged me about the ending. Is everybody just forgetting the mass genocide that would happen if 7 souls were collected?

>>718364016
much appreciated anon, its honestly encouraging to hear that.

>>718364138
I don't feel like doing this argument again, just go keyword search for "asgore" through some of the older threads in the archives if you wanna hear what I have to say about that, I'm too tired to keep arguing about that one.

>>718363912
Blue

>>718364138
something odd about yellow, is despite it being placed so oddly close to undertale in time, Asgore is depicted as a lot more bloodthirsty and aggressive in general in it than is fitting.

>>718364231
Fair enough.

>>718364327
I could buy it hypotetically insofar that actually getting six souls caused his doubt to increase. But is weird how seriously he's taking the fight considering he almost completly throws it in Undertale.

>>718364431
yeah Its fair that he may act different than in undertale since the stakes aren't the same, but despite giving that leeway it still feels out of character. the way he talks to chujin even with the fire just feels like "he would not fucking say that". even if asgore disagrees wholeheartedly with what chujin is trying, he was known as fluffybuns well before and long after the childkilling began by the monster populace. he would not be that mean spirited towards a monster. I also wonder how much he really threw the fight in undertale. he's got the burden, the grief and the absolute desire to not do this but he still dishes out the attacks with an intensity that lines up with the overall difficulty of undertale.

>>718363912
A devil monster, like that one in Mettaton's restaurant.
>>718363936
I don't think Toby should. But for a fangame built from the ground up? Knock yourself out.

I can not for the life of me figure out how to make a right facing sprite for this set. Anyone feel like giving me a hand?

I was thinking what is the best setup for Kris Ketsukane AU.
Location (Hometown or Eastwood)
Kanako's age relative to Kris (younger, older, same)
Chujin status (alive, dead, Asgore)

>>718364674
>I don't think Toby should. But for a fangame built from the ground up? Knock yourself out.
I was saying crack theory anon shouldn't make them humans in his fangame. 1 because they'd be ugly as humans, and 2 because it goes against the spirit of the concept.

>>718364626
Going by raw check stats vs his actual in game stats he's completly throwing the fight. Then again, I'm not sure how accurate checks are. I'm pretty Undying Undyne has 99/99 and that is not representative of her in game performance even though she zero reason to hold back.

A bit off topic but I always disliked the idea Asgore killed the kids himself. Not to whitewash him or anything, but I always assumed the reason equipment was strewn about the Underground was because that was the general area where each soul died. Having them all make it to Asgore and having him kill them feels odd. That's not even getting into the fact that he seemingly knows about saving.

>>718364674
>A devil monster, like that one in Mettaton's restaurant.
He'd be mostly the same as his normal self, except with red skin and horns.

>>718364956
*I'm pretty sure

>>718364150
Don't mention it, always happy to encourage someone new.

>>718364845
That head you got up there seems pretty good so far. It's probably worth pointing out that the sprites Toby makes don't properly account for perspective most of the time, with them being depicted as though they're always facing the viewer exactly along one of their axis, even when the world around them is ostensibly viewed isometrically. It might help to imagine viewing this character exactly from the side, since that's how the mini-kris sprite is handled too.

>>718364956
I feel like stat numbers are a little all over the place and may intentionally have reduced meaning by toby just being that way about it. I think its reasonable that he's throwing or underperforming because his head isn't in the game but look at the damage you do per hit to undying and then to the regular monsters right after her. it doesn't add up.

him knowing about saving feels like "boss monster knoweldge" about world mechanics. he probably doesn't remember the loads directly, but is aware that "yes, that is a power humans can posess" because after all if his role in the world is to be a boss monster it kind of makes sense that he'd know a little more. I think thats also why toriel has that reaction when you kill her and come back where "you look like you've seen a ghost, but thats impossible!" or however she words it. she probably also is clued in to some of the worlds mechanics by nature of being a boss monster but since she is very avoidant about her problems she denies the possibility of a child having that power in front of her. this is purely head canon but I think there's some sense to it since the world does seem to operate on some unspoken rules

>>718365242
it would also explain why gerson and asgore both seem to think going back to the surface even with the souls would be pointless (cant quite remember the exact dialogue). Asgore likely knows the type of bullshit human souls can get up to, and if those two think that even with the souls they are going to get locked back down there it even more makes me think they are giga knowers

>>718365242
I don't know all of them, but I am pretty sure that, yeah, they are largely meaningless outside of random encounters

Not a bad theory, frankly. Toriel's reaction to killing Frisk does seem to indicate she is way less aware than than Asgore though.

>>718365376
To be fair, we have no idea how strong having seven souls makes you. Everybody seems to think it makes you a god but the fight against Asriel generally indicates that it very much doesn't.

>>718365412
I think with toriel it really makes sense with how she approaches problems. when asgore did something she didn't like she hid away, when a human wont listen to her and stay she tells them to leave and closes the door behind them. If she had the opportunity to be a giga knower it would be in character for her to instead put her head in the sand so to say
>>718365503
I have to wonder, while we cant damage asriel in the pacifist route, would a lv 19 or 20 human find asriel just as immune to their attacks? Human determination does strange things too, sure asgore destroys the mercy button but I get the impression that determination is basically just "big protagonist energy" because despite that we get the button back just fine, or against omega flowey how the act button comes to us when we need it. 7 souls would have more determination and the power to save but in this world does being the protagonist just mean you get the cards in your hand when you need them most so even against a god at least some human out there would have a way forward? I may be stretching things a little bit but thats what comes to mind.

>>718365503
>but the fight against Asriel generally indicates that it very much doesn't.
He completely rewrote reality to give himself a cool deviantart oc body and turned everything into a rainbow light show. He has infinite hp, defense, and attack, and once he gets tired of fighting you he just freezes you in place so he can pummel you. I'd say it does quite a lot.

>>718364850
>Chujin status
Alive.

>>718366338
and yet with enough determination even against something rewriting things on the fly enough determination means literally just refusing death and tanking attacks to a fragment of a fragment of hp. he's definitely highly powerful but frisk was also unkillable in that fight which seems important.

>>718364850
>Location
Hometown so Kris can still hang out with Susie and Noelle (and Berdly)
>Coke’s age
Either the same or older like Azzy
>Chujin
Definitely alive, has the comedy potential of Kris hating humans more than him to a point where even Chujin starts getting uncomfortable.

Realistically, how well do you think Martlet would do as Clover's caretaker?

>>718366627
at the start terribly, she lets so much happen but I think if she got a second chance like in a "the souls came back to life" situation she'd probably take it seriously enough. if nothing else I think she'd take the fact that he died on her watch pretty hard when it had time to sink in.

>>718366504
I think a lot of that has to do with (you). I think the player soul might have infinite determination, or however much it needs to progress the story at any given time.

>>718366627
Bad. She might be less likely to SIDS Clover than other members of the cast, but she still wouldn't be great.

>>718366732
Is Martlet meant to look sinister in that art or is it just the artstyle or lighting?

>>718365195
I'm aware, but if I did that then I'd have to throw out those two good sprites I made since they do have perspective.

>>718366732
Martlester

>>718366752
I think thats in character for the universe though. the "player" may be the force behind heroes in that world. consider that toby was obsessed with the idea of a driving force behind protagonists even back with playing brandish and his halloween hack. whoever is being backed by that entity, by big protagonist energy probably gets enough determination to "see the story all the way through to the end". I guess im saying that if monsters got out and waged war, there very well may end up being another human that (you) are backing

>>718366859
Eh, you could maybe try and make some minor modifications to them to make them appear as though they're facing the viewer more head-on.
You could also just ignore that and make the sideways sprite head-on anyway and just see how noticeable it is. Inconsistencies don't matter as much if they aren't as noticeable.

You know, I'm surprised the pregnancy guy hasn't come around in this thread yet.

>>718367201
while some of his scenarios are quite terrifying, his art is very good. I imagine it takes some time to work up new masterpieces

>>718367237
>while some of his scenarios are quite terrifying,
Yeah, I'm not much of a fan of unbirthing, but the textless versions work for me.
His Ceroba drawing especially, that one's a masterpiece.

>>718367007
OFF also had that and was a huge inspiration for toby

>>718367237
I just wish he would do some with undergarments

>>718367497
thats a very good point, I forgot about the role (you) play in that game

>>718357095
>author of the comic makes pixelslop rape porn of ceroba and “transfem” Dina porn
So I was correct the whole comic is just misery fetish porn but that one guy tried to argue with me that it was a serious comic

>>718367593
>So I was correct the whole comic is just misery fetish porn but that one guy tried to argue with me that it was a serious comic
>person who makes the comic makes other things that aren't the comic
Damn, you got me, dead on as always detective.

>>718367593
I think we do a good job keeping up discussion without that kind of schlock even if we do get down with the autism in our own ways.

started yellow a few days ago and just finished it up with all 3 routes. pretty good game. I understand initially the genocide final boss didn't have the heal option. no thanks! this is one "beat it before the nerfs" award I'm fine without earning

>>718368038
The only "beat it before the nerfs" award that matters was Balteus anyway.

>>718368038
welcome to the waiting room for another fangame.
we've got a bunch of devanons and a thread over on /vrpg/ as well.

>>718367593
>rape porn of ceroba
This is underselling it. In the one he just posted today Ceroba is a free use sex slave that gets knocked up and then is forced to have abortions by humans. This is supposed to take place after a pacifist ending gone wrong so not only is it spitting in UTY’s face but the original Undertale’s too.

>>718359462
nice rebound from the edge™ last night.
it'll be your typical cheesy sappy happy ending.
>true lab
>kanako woke up after alphys's determination experiments...
>and thanks to her boss soul, she never got amalgamed.
>she never started to melt
>alphys held onto her for a few weeks but... nothing happened.
>A: "so you still feel fine?"
>K: "yep!"
>A: "ok...?"
>alphys went to call ceroba
---
>steamworks
>the three are carrying clover through and back to the dunes
>* please for the love of god let me kill myself it'll help all of you
>3: "NO!"
>S: "clover we've already told you, you've got a whole life to live"
>C: "and we dont even have a seventh soul yet, it could be hundreds of years before the next."
>M: "yeah clover, you could live your whole life down here and asgore taking your soul when you die naturally wouldnt make a difference"
>a buzzing comes from ceroba's pocket.
>C: "hang on, im getting a call from-"
>ceroba quickly picks up, says a few words, and runs off with a smile on her face.
>martlet and starlo give each other a confused and concerned look before continuing on
---
>three weeks later
>clover eventually gave up on the suicide thing, decided to live with martlet.
>he was visiting the dunes today, kanako wanted to introduce him to her friends
>K: "sadie, gizmo. this is clover."
>S: "nice to meet you again clover."
>K: "oh you met him already! thats great, i wont need to explain that he's a human."
>the two of them pogface and start nerding out about a REAL HUMAN COWBOY! !
---
>asgore is also happy that he doesnt have to kill another child.
as for where flowey went, just ignore him.

>>718368359
the more I learn about what this person makes the more I do not want to know about what this person makes. this is in "deep personal issues" territory

>>718368359
Dude, are you kidding me? That is nothing compared to the kind of shit people have been making about UT in general ever since the game came out. People have been making fucked up shit about UTDR and even UTY for as long as they've been around, this is nothing to write home about.

>>718368447
Yeah but people on twitter (I know) were getting mad at signirsol last week because he drew adult Kanako with boobs but are dead silent about this shit. Reddit does shit like that to the characters and we put them in nice scenarios where they find new love and happiness and yet somehow we’re the bad guys?

>>718368440
>please for the love of god let me kill myself
made me laugh more than I expected

>>718368447
having been engaged with the fandom for better or worse since the game came out lets be real here. its far from the worst of the "dead dove" territory but it definitely qualifies for the title

>>718368447
This guy >>718368537 has a point. I don’t like Signirsol’s art or Kanaclover, but there’s a worse depravity to post cuck comics while posting rape shit under the same account

>>718368440
>S: "clover we've already told you, you've got a whole life to live"
>*trapped underground?

>>718368440
>please for the love of god let me kill myself
kekked

>>718368615
>but it definitely qualifies for the title
If only you knew how bad things really were.
Go look at any mature rated UTY fic on AO3 if you really wanna have a bad time.

>>718368673
a life lived in pursuit of happiness is better than one never lived at all.

>>718368738
I'm saying I'm aware, and that the threshold for earning that tag isn't determined by the absolute worst things to have it. I am painfully aware of how bad things can get, and you get to see a fragment of the psyche of the type of people that make that if you look at /vg/

>>718368748
Yeah sure whatever, but now I kinda wanna see a super edgy alternate ending where the main cast refuses Clover's sacrifice, only for Clover to pull a DFENS and *make* them take their soul.
"No, you have two choices. I can kill you, or you can kill me, and monsterkind can get my soul.".
They were technically both fighting for justice, weren't they?

>>718368903
EdgeTM bores me

>>718368738
I’ve seen depraved fics on AO3. I saw one where Dalv rips out Kanako’s teeth and orally rapes her I’ve still seen more outrage over Kanako having tits (because she’s an adult). I know these are all fictional characters but still, why are people’s priorities so out of order?

>>718359664
i'd have done a light world version but i genuinely cant figure out a way to do it thats not silly or definitely-not-zenith
>K: "damn cole. i was expecting something... different."
>C: "yeah."
>kanako gestures in an annoyed manner
>K: "she's LITERALLY JUST HERSELF IN A SLIGHTLY MORE CASUAL OUTFIT."
>C: "dont think she has a weapon actually."
>K: "damnit man, this sucks. she could've been yknow... an archer?"
>C: "oh no she's entering a bat-"
>suddenly martlet transforms into a titanic beast of a bird with black feathers and wings that look like the night sky
>both: "HOLY $%#&ING @%&!"
>C: "FORGET HER NOT HAVING A WEAPON WE NEED TO TEACH HER ABOUT SPARING!"

>>718368903
That would be terribly out of character for clover. he would be the detective between the two.

>>718369002
Eh, to each their own.

>>718368359
sauce?

>>718361821
replacing flowey is the most hardest thing ever for making a UT fangame, but not impossible.

>>718368359
>Widow
>Raped by many people
>Humans bad
>Abortions
It's probably a troon.

>>718369056
It’s the newest thing in the Ceroba tag on e6.

>>718369056
Right here: https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderTail/comments/1mt2743/ceroba_spoils_of_war/
Admittedly, it is a bit much for my tastes, but it's far from the worst thing I've seen to come out of this community.

>>718369036
Oh yeah, 100%. But I do think it's funny, and that's all that matters to me in this context, I'm not seriously proposing this as something that would actually happen in UTY.

>>718369013
humans as a whole have a desire to express anger and hatred while also feeling like they are doing the right thing. As things are right now the online society has these pre-defined things that you can be angry about while being in the right by your chosen circles. it doesn't require any thought, just see thing and scream therapeutically. something worse happening at the same time? its not on my list so I dont need to think about the implications, I'm already getting my doctor ordered hatred out of the way

>>718369221
I see, I was confused since there was a well defined law man in that specific scene already. Personally while I enjoy edge, I cant enjoy it if the characters had to act out of character by too much to get us to it.

>>718369013
>why are people’s priorities so out of order?
I imagine (or like to imagine) that the people upset about sig's adult Kanako drawings would be exactly as upset about that abomination of a fic you mentioned, but they likely don't know it exists, since I doubt they're looking for nsfw UTY stuff if seeing Kanako with breasts as an adult is enough to set them off.

>>718369273
>Personally while I enjoy edge, I cant enjoy it if the characters had to act out of character by too much to get us to it.
That is also fair. I personally can stomach some OOC as long as it doesn't apply to every character present and if it sets up a decent story, or in this case, a joke I happen to find funny.
Back to that, I can still see it working just a little bit. They're even up on a high platform, perfect for Clover's body to fall off of after the "duel".
The big bad human versus the sheriff? It's beautiful.

>>718368738
Those ao3 writers are depraved, but they keep their fetishes in their echo chambers usually (although a good number of them probably interact with the underaged in their echo chambers). Posting your barely disguised fetish of Ceroba torture porn on Reddit, intended for a more casual audience, is stupid

>>718369013
That fic is made by a retard in a niche community, and it’s easier to encounter NSFW drawings

>>718369227
Yes but why the 15 Minute Hate for giving fictional characters boobies? This woke puritanism is nuts. It used to be about sexual liberation but now displaying a character as sexually attractive arises ire…but not actual abuse.

>>718369070
He made trans Dina porn lol

>>718369529
AO3 isn’t niche. Return to Form has over 1,000 kudos. There’s a UTY fanfic that has more kudos than any fic in the Deltarune tag. (Although a Spamtenna fic is about to pass it)

>>718369608
its just repressed people finding circles that let them express the repressed feelings of anger. Things like that aren't usually bound by if its sensible. Especially with how young people are getting drawn into hyper idealistically charged communities.

>>718369472
>barely disguised fetish of Ceroba torture porn on Reddit, intended for a more casual audience, is stupid
If you're talking about the rape pic, that was actually posted on the "Undertail" subreddit, which is meant for porn in the first place, so I don't see too much issue with that.
If you're talking about the comic, while it certainly has sexual themes, I really don't see it as being anywhere near as miserable as the above mentioned pic, and is generally more focused on the relationship drama than anything else. If it's torture porn, it's pretty tame as far as that goes, especially compared to the *actual* torture porn we've already discussed.
Also, if it is torture porn, which I still argue it really isn't, I'd also argue Ceroba really isn't the one being tortured in the comic, not as much as Chujin is.
Funny I brought up Falling Down, Chujin's actually shaping up a bit like DFENS did.

>>718369610
That’s probably not pro trans though, he’s just fetishizing troons like how he fetisizes rape and abortion and cheating.

AO3 in general can be a cesspit, but rarely there's something there worth reading that's unironically good.
On the other hand, I did find a Ceroba/Clover fic (with Clover as an adult, now *that's* fucking rare) that contained a line so fucking stupid it made me bust out laughing. Maybe that's also worth it, in the end.

what the fuck happened to this thread?

>>718370527
Something terrible.

>>718370527
It's going back to its roots

>>718370448
The problem with AO3 is that a lot of people properly don't tag their stuff and instead make their own ridiculously specific tag.
>pic
kek
I'm using that if I ever write something where a retarded woman rapes a man.

>>718370614
Oh man, it's been a hot minute since I've seen that one thrown around. Did you ever end up posting the other 4 "joke" greens?

>>718359698
pure pacifist.
>the three are walking through the judgement hall
>suddenly, a short statured figure appeared in front of them, shaded by the lighting of the room.
>"?": "heya. pretty pure soul you've got there huh?"
>M: "yeah..."
>?: "someone that'll do the right thing... even if it kills them."
>S: "yep, clover was somethin' special."
>?: "sounds like its a real shame that he fell down here."
>?: "hey. quick question. suppose i asked you to kill me, just shoot me right now. would you do it?"
>the three of them go wide eyed and look at clover's soul.
>?: "huh. i'd say thats a weird response..."
>the silhouette fades
>s: "but hey what do i know? im just the janitor."
>everyone's vision goes black and sans is replaced with a mop when it returns
>everyone's too shocked to ask the question of "who's that guy?"
---
flawed pacifist.
>clover and martlet are walking to asgore.
>suddenly, a short statured figure appeared in front of the two.
>?: "heya."
>...
>s: "eh i'll be honest im not feeling it today so uh... lets just get to the point"
>s: "look, ya killed someone."
>s: "it wasn't really in self defense, but it wasn't done out of cold blood either"
>s: "it was something else, wasn't it?"
>s: "after everything you've seen and done you felt like killing, just this once, was the right thing to do"
>s: "was it? eh, thats for you to decide kid."
>s: "see ya"
>sans teleports away
>M: "... do you know that guy clover?"
---
bonus genoslides
>clover is walking down the judgement hall
>?: "heya"
>before sans can continue, clover tries shooting off a soul blast
>sans quickly teleport swaps himself and clover
>clover gets vaporized by his own soul beam
>s: "... well. guess that saves me the effort"
>sans jars the soul and takes it to asgore.
>reason why clover doesnt reload is because his lack of melee prevents him from doing something that sans CANT do the teleport swap trick with.
>he's already tried the battle 52 times and got the same attack result no matter what.

>>718370639
That fic's got some stupid shit in it. You want the link to that wreck, or is this line good enough for you?

>>718370815
Post it.

>>718370639
>people properly don't tag
I need to get some sleep.

>>718370907
Welp, here ya go: https://archiveofourown(replacethiswith a ".")org/works/68211991/chapters/176479386
It says it's only got 1/4 chapters, which means we might get even more of this later.
I dunno if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

>>718359834
>?: "hey chujin, you've been watching the living world. how'd that recent human that fell go?"
>C: "remember what i told you about kanako"
>?: "yeah?"
>C: "she's doing it again. listening to a kid that wants to kill himself."
>the other monster peers into reality for a moment
>they are currently at the part where clover's soul just got jarred.
>?: "ah thats harsh"
>C: "how. how did she not learn anything from it?"
>as the two are staring at the scene, clover pops into the afterlife in front of the two and waves
>?: "so uh... you still feel that way about humans?"
>chujin sighs
>C: "it doesnt matter anymore! it just doesnt matter."

>>718370785
>genoslides
Ah, pulling out the old Jack Noir trick, classic.

Say, any chance you could do one for a timeline where Ceroba defeated Clover and took their soul, and passed through the judgement hall on her way to hotland somehow?

>>718370785
>his lack of melee
Clover can't do melee in normal gameplay, but if his gun and ammo are removed, then he does infinite damage.

>>718370990
>Ceroba only 7 years older than Clover
This would make her like 16 in the original game. Also why mention their heights?

>>718362315
DRY for this one
>kanako, sadie, and cole are in a dark world together.
>cole was a few rooms ahead, solving some puzzles
>meanwhile kanako and sadie were behind.
>K: "alright sadie just hear me out here"
>K: "i've got a plan to trick cole into brushing my tail"
>S: "uh-"
>kanako spent the next 10 minutes explaining her elaborate 7.6 step plan that revolves getting herself and cole alone in a room with a hairbrush and him in a position where he cant really refuse her request
>S: "you... you know you can just ASK him. right?"
>C: "yeah. i'd brush your tail any day"
>kanako's slightly deranged expression faded into a disappointed one.
>K: "well there's no fun in that now is there?"
>C: "oh. i'll play along!"
>K: "n-no. you ruined it. whole thing loses meaning if you know the other person is just pretending."
>C: "i'll still brush your tail though."
>K: "yeah, yeah. that'd be nice."
>kanako walked ahead
>S: "i wouldnt think about it too much cole. you know how fox monsters are about this stuff"
>the two followed after her

>>718371703
You're asking me? Buddy I was laughing my ass off over that fic, I'm not taking that shit seriously at all.
Except for the bit with the french kissing, that was pretty hot.
For an actual answer, I imagine they just aged up Clover in the context of UTY too, so in this continuity they were older when they ventured through the underground.

You know, it's weird that there's only like, two or three decent mature rated Ceroba fics on AO3. I saw a really good Ceroba/Reader one a while back, and there are a handful of other ones that are alright, but the vast majority are just so utterly fucked up that I just can't help but wonder what the hell is wrong with people sometimes.

>>718371703
Chujin liked em young

>>718371167
sure
>ed and starlo never interrupted ceroba and clover
>clover went to the castle, ceroba stalked him
>when the two were in absolute silence, ceroba betrayal killed him.
>she took is soul and turned around to go for the true lab
>?: "heya"
>ceroba turned around.
>?: "y'know. normally these to go the other way. but hey, i wont tell"
>?: "must be a pretty exceptional soul for you to be taking it away from asgore though..."
>?: "or maybe you're just desperate."
>?: "either way, be careful. a human soul is nothing to play with"
>?: "but, there's something else. the way that human trusted you."
>?: "would you say he was a friend?"
>C: "i mean-"
>s: "eh. dont bother answering."
>s: "personally? i think he'd be a little upset about the betrayal. might change the way the soul will act."
>sans teleported away, leaving ceroba with a bit to think about.

>>718372417
How fucking young would Ceroba have to have been in order for that to make any amount of sense chronologically?

>>718372545
anyways im tired.
if anyone has anymore leave 'em here and i'll do them when i wake up.

>>718372610
you just said 16

>>718372250
>I saw a really good Ceroba/Reader one a while back
Was it Drunk Love by xanthemia because that one is really hot.

>>718372751
I didn't say 16, the other guy said 16. And that's just for the events of UTY anyway, how young would that have made her by the time Chujin met her, or when she had Kanako?
Kanako herself seems to be maybe 5-8 years young, so how young would Ceroba be in this fucked-up interpretation.

>>718372886
Nah, it was "A Kitsune's Warmth" by TheTakenCatKing. I have read Drunk Love. It's alright, not as much my kinda thing, but it's good.

>>718353893
Nothing extreme like So Sorry, but it does feel like going through someone's gallery of furry OCs with subpar writing I'd only care about under the barrel of a gun, and it's cranked up to 11 towards the end. Which is a shame because I've been following the development of Yellow since the demo, which I loved and wanted to see more of. It actually felt like an UT spin-off. Full release? Not so much. But people seem to be enjoying it, so I don't know. Maybe I set my expectations too high, the demo was just this good.

>>718353893
Honestly, if you like the original Undertale, you may as well give UTY a shot. It's free, and I think you'll have a decent idea of what it's like after maybe an hour or two, so you won't need to spend too much time on it to determine whether you'll wanna stick with it all the way through or not.

>>718353893
All things considered Undertale Yellow for a fangame is pretty good.
It has all the Undertale elements, though admittedly it also lacks many things that made Undertale really standout, being the characters, and how they interact with each other and the main protagonist.
Playing the game for myself, it's pretty evident where the devs screwed up, or didn't put much thought into the writing,
For that reason a mod called Shade of Justice is aiming to fix the areas were the game fell short, and the mod admittedly is very well done, and from what I hear they're planning to do more.
The mod is what Undertale Yellow should have been from the beginning.

https://files.catbox.moe/cr5huz.png
my monitor broke shortly after the request post last week so i have zero idea what people wanted, so i just felt like doing an adult coke
nothing explicit but best to be cautious

>>718375403
Someone's certainly very thirst and frisky.
Have fun Clover, I'm sure your time spent with Kanako is going to be very pleasurable and memorable.
Nice one Sig! This came out looking awesome!

>>718375403
Locked bedroom door, raging hormones, and during night time equals that lol.

>>718375403
sad that I won't see more mooch ass but that's a nice drawing nevertheless

>>718375403
Big fluffy tail...

>>718375403
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/717707939/#717728587
Here’s the post you made last week with people’s requests. Also I uploaded the Coke to e6. (I’ve become your unofficial archiver, the newest 6 pictures of yours on there were uploaded by me lol)

>no short and slim female monsters in either canon or fanworks
Stop petitechad discrimination.

>>718376197
Muffet?

>>718375403
Any chance you'll go back and do the requests now that you're back?

Why are generals allowed if they're Undertale/Deltarune related?

>>718375403
Based.

>>718376426
>One thread per week
>General

>>718376426
>he says, while jannies actively nuke UT/DR threads
meanwhile, we've got
>several eternal gacha generals
>an AI general thats structured exactly like a general
>weekly japanese console salesfag general
>whats effectively a steam hate general
>allowed eternal threads for AAAs
>"cultural phenomenon" games that are allowed to take up 50%+ of the catalog, even if they shit up the board for over a month after release
once you solve ALL of the above, then we can talk about this single weekly thread being a """general"""

>>718361296
Decided to take a stab at sprite editing some of the Fun Gang sprites to look more like their beta designs. Bonus UT shirt for Kris.

Well, this was a decent thread.

Bumpin

>>718378858
Still halfway, and it got there pretty quickly.

>>718380696
Well, as long as we can keep the thread from sinking during the less active hours, we might still be able to reach the bump limit with this one.

>>718375403
Enjoy the night Clover.

>>718377718
Ok, now Noelle looks like she's hunched.

>>718351551 (OP)
How the hell do you guys STILL have your general even years after Yellow released? It's just a scrappy fangame.

>>718383165
Because we have artists and devs that keep producing contet based/inspired on the game?

>>718375403
>causes controversy on twitter over his adult Kanako
>makes more adult Kanako
King

>>718383165
Good question, here's a question to your question.
Why does games, like Mario, Zelda, and Undertale still have threads?
Oh I know, it's because there's many passionate artists that still draw plenty of fan art. Writers that write plenty of fanfics.
People having plenty of discussions about the game, and others making mods or their own fangames inspired by the games in question.
Undertale Yellow has garnered a dedicated fanbase, and said fanbase is eager and happy to make fan content for it, be that art, fics, or mods.

>>718383727
>like Mario, Zelda, and Undertale still have threads?
Those aren't fangames, and those aren't a literal video game general with the same ten people posting.

>>718383727
>Those aren't fangames
Why is being a fangame relevant? UTY has the same amount of content as Undertale
>and those aren't a literal video game general with the same ten people posting.
Weakly threads aren't a general, and new people come to these threads all the time

>>718384809
Replied to the wrong guy >>718384434

>>718384809
>Weakly threads aren't a general,
Just because they aren't daily doesn't stop them from being a general.

>>718376990
None of those threads are furry adjacent so they don’t incur abib’s wrath

>>718372932
The concept of age of consent doesn't exist in monster's society

>>718376480
>One thread per week
>General

Every time someone posts art, writes a fanfic, or codes a sprite, the cycle begins again. If it walks like a general, talks like a general, and baits pointless janny arguments like a general... yeah, it's probably a general. But who cares? It's not bumping off your 300th "rate wife" thread or killing the 20th Genshin bait OP of the day. Let people have their fun.

>>718364845
What are these low res sprites for? didn't you already have an overworld sprite for Racter?

why not just post your stuff in the other undertale/deltarune threads?

>>718383579
The controversy consisted of two people crying in a echo chamber, its not like they can affect Sig anyways since he only posts his stuff here

>>718388330
Because we don't want the discussion to get all mixed up

lora anon from other thread
did some work yesterday and now moray now has a lora
>https://civitai.com/models/1877818?modelVersionId=2125438
open to requests

>>718388330
The Deltarune threads are full of spammers that derail the thread discussion

>>718390524
Try drawing Martlet or Zenith Martlet.
Preferable in nice poses.

>>718370584
When the hell did Samuel Hayden become a part of /v/ UTY threads

>>718395305
Someone better make her a mother before those eggs run dry

>>718375403
Kanako after having several babies
https://files.catbox.moe/ix66us.png

>>718395629
Ideally he'd be a part of every /v/ thread.

>>718395305
somebody's been eating too much gunpowder

>>718386546
though lately the threads have been going off the deep end on redditium due to lack of stuff, content creators can only work so fast

UTY if it was written by /v/:
>Flowey is a constantly-malding jobber; covers it up with a new cut without all his petals.
>Clover is sick with jaundice (misspelled "juandice" and pronounced in Spanish as "hoo-WON DEE-say").
>Signirsol's art is canon; Martlet has fat tits, Zartlet is several stories tall and buff as shit, Ceroba mogs her husband, Mooch has a fat ass, and Kanako is alive but keeps getting taller as she ages.
>Chujin hates humans and becomes catatonic when his daughter inevitably gets #NINGEN'D.
>Anyone who becomes a fan of Martlet succumbs to "Mart-Rot", ultimately transforming into a "Beta" Martlet from continuous exposure.
>Shu is a canon character, but all he does is write fanfics of him being the strongest monster in the underground and posts it to an Undernet forum.
>Samuel Hayden gets isekai'd for some reason and is now the honorary Gaster stand-in; likely believes Kanako is the reincarnated Icon of Sin with how tall she keeps growing and wants to use her as a replacement for the Crucible.
>New ending to the game is added: Clover makes a Minecraft Aether Portal, but it actually works, and everyone leaves the underground without Frisk ever falling down or Sans and Papyrus ever getting isekai'd from Deltarune before the former can cuck Asgore a second time.
Anything else I'm missing?

>>718395305
She needs to lay of the cakes lol.

>>718400473
Martlet having fat tits was a canon thing anyway.
Like seriously, Martlet is canonically stacked.
So is Zenith Martlet being several times bigger than her normal form.

>>718400473
I think it would be better if flowey wasn't in UTY at all
>aether portal
bringing back the vintage memes

>>718377718
That flame on Ralsei's shirt looks more like one of those darkness eyes at that scale

>>718383165
This is thread is 30% devs making new fangames

>>718401392
30% seems a bit too much, more like 10% are devs and even that might be pushing it

>>718400713
>thinks the boobs mod is canon

>>718351849
fox sex FOX SEX SEX SEX

>>718403025
Why don't you have a seat right over here?

>>718368359
link?

>>718402665
This predates the mod, newfag.

>>718384987
Then the frequency of a thread topic doesn't matter. All that matters is whether or not abib considers it furry.

>>718388330
Those threads are killed on sight now, before they hit bump limit in a couple hours, and nobody there cares about fangames.

>>718395629
Two weeks ago

>>718402408
How many people are in these threads? There's 7 devs in here currently, so unless this thread has 70 active posters that means its higher than 10%.

>>718405596
Can't really tell anymore because I just remembered they STILL haven't reinstated the poster count.

>>718402665
Martlet having have large breasts was a well known thing long before the mod was even made.

Undertale Yellow should have ended like a actual spaghetti western with you leaving the underground and heading out to other adventures.

>>718406349
But it literally does?

>>718406565
Genocide is non-canon.

>>718405596
>7 devs
>DRY1anon
>DRY2anon
>Naranjanon
>Oldentale anon
>Schizo theories anon
>True ending anon
Who is missing?

>>718383727
>Zelda
To be fair, those have been completely taken over by a handful of seething schizos.

Martlet is cute. I imagine her voice sounding something like Webby’s from that Ducktales reboot.

>>718407526
Martlet's tits mod dev and optionally Martlet dating sim anon. One of the wildfire devs also comes here occasionally.

>>718407198
the entire game was non canon from the second flowey showed on screen, not to mention the timescale being all sorts of fucked

>>718383579
>the troon trying to go on a moral crusade against sig retweets hyperfat miss mizzle art
>called adult clover generic, while his main oc that he’s constantly trying to get other people to draw is a ceroba recolor
>constantly trying to pity bait his tiny following with shit like ‘wow you guys really find me annoying huh?’
the ‘controversy’ was always sad but the more I look the more pathetic the dude is

>>718395629
When I made this post some threads back.

>>718408775
>the entire game was non canon from the second flowey showed on screen,
Explain your reasoning.

>>718409619
At least they did a few decent Ceroba sprites here and there, so that justifies their existence to me.

>>718407647
Thanks anon, Im gonna get after it again after work, but it makes sense when you stop to look that the underlying structure is the same in a way

Hey guys drawnon here!

And here's the images that were the most requested in the last.
Said requests being a pregnant Martlet, alongside a game over gif with Flowey commentary, like with the Ceroba image I did.

Martlet Pregnant with Clover:
https://files.catbox.moe/sp6nr9.png

Normal Pregnant Martlet:
https://files.catbox.moe/u649ev.png

Flowey commentary Game Over Screen:
https://files.catbox.moe/7eprha.gif

And as with all of my appearances in this threads.

Hit me with your ideas, and I'll draw what I perceive as the most popular/common request on the list.

>>718411865
Ceroba bathing with an anon.

>>718411865
I have to say, no lie, you draw Martlet really well!
Like I genuinely mean that.

>>718411865
Do a pregnant Zenith Martlet with a game over screen.
Also these images are awesome looking.

>>718411865
I don't really mind in what, but more Zartlet please.

>>718411865
something with ceroba, preferably partially clothed

>>718411865
Do Kanako

>>718411865
Zenith, Zenith, Zenith, Zenith.

>>718411865
Here's something more SFW:
Tenna approaching Starlo with a pitch to revive the western TV genre.

>>718411865
>>718412163
This 100%, Do a Zenith Martlet one, with a game over screen.
These are freaking hilarious.

>>718411865
DRY1 Martlet early in the morning

>>718411865
Martlet ENF

>>718413456
Wait there's two different deltarune yellow's being made? A 1 and a 2?

>>718411865
Alright, genuine question about that game over screen.
What happens to Clover's body? Flowey says that Martlet took Clover's soul and put it in her "bird muffin", which I'm going to assume is her crotch, but what about Clover's actual body? Is that just left over, did they dispose of it somewhere or something? These images straddle the line between genuine porn and shitpost, so I know I shouldn't be taking this seriously, but I really have to know, I'm actually really curious on this one.
Also, do more Ceroba if you can, you did her really well last time.

>>718413694
Id imagine it was Clover's whole body and soul, since for the most they're pretty much connected, unless Clover's dead, which in this case, they weren't.
I know in the game we're only controlling the soul, but in actually battles Clover's moving and dodging and stuff.
So chances are Clover's body is in there.

>>718413694
>To shreds, you say?

Can we not discuss the finer points of weird internet fetishes.

>>718413594
DRY1 came first, the dev of that gave up for a little while after very quickly making a chapter and a half
DRY2 popped up as a result, using some of the sprites (with permission), he's still chipping away at it.
DRY1 came back, put out his chapter and a half (https://gamejolt.com/games/deltaruneyellow/981988, the uploader is not DRYanon1)
now DRY1 is working on a revamp of chapter 1

>>718414093
I don't know about that, Flowey specifically says it was Clover's soul that Martlet took and, did whatever with. Plus, Clover's not that small, Martlet's womb would be *way* bigger having an entire human lodged up there. Plus, that would be way more horrifying.
Also, we see in UTY that Clover's soul can be brought out and separated from their body, namely in the true pacifist ending, so I don't see why it's necessarily the case that the body would have to go along too.
Though, if it was just the soul, that does raise the question of where exactly the human consciousness resides, and whether or not taking just the soul would be killing whatever version of Clover existed solely in the body.
Man, UTDR has a more complex soul system than Kingdom Hearts.

>>718414341
This is UTDR shit, half the discussion is about weird internet fetishes.

>>718411865
make more of other characters
https://files.catbox.moe/1o2cgw.png

>>718415240
We spent a pretty good amount of time talking about rape last night, is this really so much worse?

>>718414452
Pretty sure the consciousness is within the Soul.
Yeah the soul can be separated from the body, but for the most it's still connected to it, unless the humans dead, or the soul itself is harvested like it was in true pacifist.
Pretty sure they can just give the body to asgore, or if the bodies within Martlet, then I guess that's getting changed, while the soul is within her.

>>718415781
>Pretty sure the consciousness is within the Soul.
We see multiple instances of humans maintaining consciousness even without their souls, namely Kris if we're talking about living humans, but Chara also works generally. The soul seems to have a connection to the body while the body still lives, but isn't it weird that the human consciousness can apparently just exist in one or the other? Frisk also seems to retain a certain amount of their own independence, despite us being told that they also technically don't have their own soul in UT, since Flowey makes a clear distinction between the player and Frisk as two separate entities if you load up the game again after getting the true pacifist ending.
With all this in mind, it's not necessarily out of the question that humans in UTDR exist as the sum of multiple parts, the body and the soul, both of which are capable of existing on their own under the right conditions.

>>718415781
So what about Flowey and Kris? They both exist independent of their souls.

>>718415303
it was weird then too to be fair

>>718416459
Hm. Yeah, fair.
I guess weirdness exists along multiple axis, since I wouldn't really classify the current topic as being the same kind of weird as last night's topic.

>>718416273
Flowey's a flowey, and not really a monster. it's hard to really categories what Flowey is, considering how he came into existence.
As for Kris, it's already been established, that Kris and the Soul are two entirely separate entities altogether. Unlike with Undertale souls.

>>718416632
>Unlike with Undertale souls.
Except for the red soul in Undertale, which is also a separate entity from Frisk, as evidenced by what Flowey says to us after a true pacifist run.
>Flowey's a flowey, and not really a monster.
Flowey's a collection of memories from Asriel's dust brought to life through a flower that was injected with determination. As far as the question of consciousness goes, he's just a copy of Asriel, not the real thing.

It's not the soul that's important for humans, it's the determination they have. Human souls are just containers for determination, but you can inject it into a monster or flower without using a human soul. Presumably humans can exist for a time without their soul running on latent determination before it fades.

Dunno about Kris since Deltarune might run on different rules and I've seen schizotheories that Kris actually has two souls.

>>718417512
>It's not the soul that's important for humans, it's the determination they have. Human souls are just containers for determination
It's true that humans don't necessarily need their souls to *live*, but their souls do seem to retain certain things about them, as evidenced by the behavior of the six human souls in photoshop Flowey's fight in UT. If the human souls were effectively just containers of determination, they wouldn't have responded to Frisk's calls for help, and they wouldn't have retained any of their traits and associations from when they were alive, but they do. The human soul clearly contains some part of the human consciousness in UTDR, but it's not apparently the whole thing, since some also seems to be retained by the human's body.
Chara seems to retain their consciousness from when they were alive when we see them at the end of the genocide route, but we also hear that they had some amount of control when their soul was absorbed and used by Asriel, so that's a pretty clear indicator of human consciousness being spread across the two components.
This does raise the question of narra-Chara though, since it's not exactly clear what that would be if human consciousness only exists across the body and soul. That could indicate a third component, potentially the mind, as being responsible, which could make sense. The soul is the emotional component, the body is the physical/instinctual component, and the mind would be the rational component, based on how we see each element behave in UT, for the limited examples there are for each.

Oh no, thread's sinking.

Lol I made the game over screen gif as an initially joke, I never expected people to be interested it to where people requested more, let along it becoming a discussion.

Not sure if the link was working for some, he's another link to the gift.
https://files.catbox.moe/l7v5j9.gif

>>718411865
And feel free to continue sending your requests here.

>>718411865
I have a dumb idea, how about a sort of choice select screen where we have Clover deciding whether they want Ceroba or Martlet to be their new mom, so to speak.

>>718411865
i think we've seen a lot of your pics where its immediately post unbirth, so i think it'd be interesting to see the same scenario but like 3-6 months later. how their bodies changed, or any funny dialogue or something

>>718411865
I still want a continuation of that wholesome moment between Cole and Martlet

>>718419965
There was wholesome moment Martlet and Cole from Deltarune Yellow?
When did that happen, and what was it?

>>718420494
That draw anon previous drawing, you can find it on e6

I have Yellow downloaded here since last year but still haven't gotten around to playing it, I'll probably pick it up after I'm done with A Space for the Unbound

>>718419926
Wouldn't the recent image the drawanon drew be counted as 3-6 months later?
In this image Clover's a full on egg within her now.

>>718419265
That sounds both awesome and yet also incredibly funny.
For extra kicks they have a pointer that's pointing towards one of them. Probably Martlet.

>>718419965
I'm curious to know how you'd want the drawanon to continue it.
Since it's seems to be more of a standalone drawing.

>>718420859
considering the dialogue for both ceroba and martlet are like "wow i cant wait to start being a mother again", im asuming its just moments after doing the... thing

>>718421279
To be more accurate Ceroba is all about being a mother again. Martlet is more, I'm new to this but I'll do the best I can.

>>718421268
Let's be real, there's only so many ways that can go from there.
At least they aren't related.

>>718421447
It's meant to be a wholesome thing, without any implications.
From what the context of the image, Martlet's just doing what she feels is normal to her, and likely monsters in general, with no ill intentions.
While Cole can't bring himself to tell her, that aside from her huge melons pressing against his back, the whole situation flusters him greatly cause he's not used to being in this kind of situation.
But acknowledges Martlet's just trying to be a good mother to him.

>>718411865
Zenith Martlet preggo with Clover, as well as a game over screen to go with it.

>>718421825
Yeah, I know that in the context of that image being an event happening in-universe, but that doesn't exactly make good material for a followup image, does it? If that's what we're talking about, and it is, because that's what the other guy was talking about, then there really are only a few ways that can go.

>>718422031
>>718419965
What kind of suggestions to you have for the drawnon, to follow up on this image, wholesome or otherwise?

>>718421409
what i mean is just, make them more milf-y, or even bigger bellies since the pregnancy progressed

>>718422214
>wholesome
I could see a situation where Cole explains how they feel to Martlet and either they both get super flustered about it, or Martlet attempts to comfort Cole and assure them that their feelings are natural and whatnot.
>otherwise
Cole explains how they feel to Martlet and Martlet starts coming onto them and acting more dominant towards them in a sexual way. Like a soft "dommy mommy" sort of thing. Assuming Cole is of age and consenting, of course.

SO who do you think would win in a fight from the game?

>>718422829
Shu no diffs them all

>>718423180
he could have stopped (You)

>>718377718
I have since discovered that, according to Spriters Resource, the 6th anniversary stream had unused talk sprites for Susie using her beta design, thus rendering this exercise pointless.
I've also discovered a Toby Fox tweet depicting Noelle with her hair parted in the middle and with greater resemblance to her final design:
https://xcancel.com/tobyfox/status/1916474676684980280

>>718382940
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but if "hunched" means what I think it does, heh

>>718401315
I don't really see the resemblance, but honestly it kinda fits. I might take another stab at making the flame actually look like a flame, but given the spatial constraints I doubt I could improve much

mooch gang

>>718423582
>I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but if "hunched" means what I think it does, heh
He's referencing that one guy who went seven years thinking Noelle's hair was the collar of a jacket, and thinking that she was a hunchback,

>>718426113
>He's referencing that one guy who went seven years thinking Noelle's hair was the collar of a jacket, and thinking that she was a hunchback,
What?

>>718423582
I like yours better than the actual toby ones.
>Raisel
You could make the eye thing be part of his design. He is the prince of the dark after all, and you're going to be heavily rewriting the story. So the meaning of that eye and Ralsei's true nature can be whatever you want them to be.

>>718411865
More Zartlet will be greatly appreciated.

>>718426489
Its an image I've seen traded around on /v/ for a while. If you meant you don't understand my post, I don't know how to put it in plainer words than that.

>>718412014
Ceroba gets plenty of art already. She's doesn't need more from the rare drawanons.

>>718423582
Those sprites seem more like an in-between of beta and current Susie. OG Susie looks more cheerful and kinda dorky

>>718427383
No, I understood just fine, I just wanna know more. You have a source post of that guy, or is this just hearsay?

>>718427816
>She's doesn't
Ceroba doesn't have that much more art than Martlet does, there's no need to fight.

>>718427893
It was just a screenshot post. It could be fake, he could've been lying, I don't know.

>>718427993
But do you have the post? I wanna see how stupid this guy may or may not have been.

>>718428136
No, I don't.

>>718423582
I kinda feel like one of those Susie's hairstyles would really fit her hypothetical alcoholic mother.

>>718413456
>>718414383
What exactly is the difference between DRY1 Martlet and DRY2 Martlet?
Also where can I see the updates for DRY2?

>>718428298
>Also where can I see the updates for DRY2?
This guy >>718359429 is DRY2anon, he posts his progress in these threads

>>718428267
Does Susie's alchoholic mom also eat bikes?

>>718427816
what makes you more equal than us

>>718427816
Martlet's been getting all the love these past few threads, Ceroba deserves some attention now.

>>718429884
>>718428950
>>718427816
Not to pick sides or anything, but I get the impression Martlet gets a lot of art here, precisely because she doesn't get a lot.
From I hear Zenith Martlet is regarded as the most attractive character in UTY and yet I barely any good art of her.

>>718411865
That Flowey gif is the most depraved thing I've ever subjected myself to, congratulations anon. Good thing I'm into this stuff! Instead of unbirthing you should draw Martlet pregnant with (lots of) Clover/Cole's children.

I like adult clover x martlet

>>718430934
The Flowey gif I find hilarious, because I can see Flowey saying all that.
Imagine trying manipulate a human child, only to watch get turned into a monster through unusual means.

>>718428298
DRY1 Martlet is Cole's adoptive mother and works some sort of wagie job(seems to be a delivery girl).
DRY2 I don't recall the finer points of.

>>718431093
I remember seeing sprites of Martlet with long hair but in her normal form.
Was that from DRY1 or DRY2?

Adult clover x martlet is s good ship

>>718431093
>DRY2 I don't recall the finer points of.
also cole's adoptive mother, woodworker, during the course of the game she's fighting in court to keep cole since she forgot to upgrade from foster care to proper adoption.

>>718413548
seconded

I'd like to apologize to all the Anons who are weirded out by the shocking amount of both Martlet and pregnancy enthusiasts ITT, me being one of them. You're all kings btw

>>718428604
No, she takes them to pawnshop.

>>718411865
Martlet giving Cole a motherly lap pillow.

>>718431279
This has been a thing for a while now, it's better to just accept it at this point.

>>718431181
DRY1, its supposedly to make her look a little older/different from UT Martlet.

>>718351551 (OP)
Is that a girl? or a boy?

>>718431093
>>718431252
All of this pretty much.
In DRY2 Martlet and Cole are kind of in a really heart wrenching situation, because they've properly bonded, but the human courts are essentially try to forcibly rip them away from each other.
In part because the court system there is very pro human, completely disregarding all the time Martlet has spent looking after Cole.

>>718431412
I don't remember seeing that look in the demo.
Is this meant to be her updated look?

>>718431615
Which ever makes your dick harder

>>718431615
Yeah.

>>718431615
Almost nobody depicts them as female, and no one fights over his pronouns or cares which you use, unlike Kris/Frisk/Chara

>>718428231
Man

>>718426510
>I like yours better than the actual toby ones.
Thanks, though at the end of the day it's still an edit of the Toby sprite, haha.
>You could make the eye thing be part of his design
Yeah, I'm leaning towards that. I'll probably use this mockup, purposefully vague and open to interpretation.
As for how I'd view it, probably something like picrel, where it's the flame from Toby's doodles but the circle in the middle is a Titan eye.

>>718427840
I was actually thinking of keeping Susie's characterisation as the brasher chapter 1 personality as opposed to the official "snarky but silly" or OG Maya Fey-like characterisation. So maybe my edits work best in conveying that idea

>>718428267
I'd say the last two for what you described

>>718351551 (OP)
>Undertale Yellow thread
Post it.

>>718431219
hot, but I don't like the implication of Martlet being a groomer

>>718432718
https://files.catbox.moe/hqcmma.mp4

>>718432747
then just dont think of it that way, problem solved. honestly as bird brained as she was it would probably take her by complete surprise if clover confessed when the time came.

>>718432747
Just make Clover an adult when they go through the underground but leave everyone else the same age, simple.

>>718431727
coming with the chapter 1 rework update(that also adds other stuff and cleans up the code)

>>718431412
I liked her original hairstyle, but I do love long hair too. Stop making me feel so conflicted.

>>718431279
Its not the pregnancy that bothers me, its the unbirthing.

I ship them AFTER Clover Become one adult, clover and martlet are only bff but after Clover Become one adult he fall in love with martlet( pls someone make more adult clover x martlet nsfw or sfw)

>>718433695
Well it's a good thing there's normal pregnancy alts.

>>718431315
I don't think her bike eating abusive husband would approve of that.

>>718431412
I think the long hair makes her look younger

>>718433951
clover falling in love with martlet at first sight and asking her to marry him
martlet telling him that he's not old enough for that kind of thing
clover growing up and proposing to martlet when hes an adult!

>>718432684
> the middle is a Titan eye.
It need not be a titan's eye. That reveal came in chapter 4, and since you are specifically trying to not follow chapter 4 lore, that eye can belong to whatever you want it to. Not saying it shouldn't be a titan's eye, just that you should keep in mind it can be whatever you want it to be.
>I was actually thinking of keeping Susie's characterisation as the brasher chapter 1 personality as opposed to the official "snarky but silly"
Maybe she's still an asshole, but she's nice to Kris because she's decided he's cool, while she's still an asshole bully to everyone else.

dont really know/care about undertale, no strong opinions (some of the porns good, ngl). but yellow, for some reason, just always invokes the thought of piss. for some reason. probably just me, but its like undertale yellow is a fan game made by some pissplay fetishest and its more popular then the orginal game, or something, instead of it actually being a real game made by the original developer of the frist one. made a typo in that but it seems appropriate so i left it

>>718434050
Its the discussion of the unbirthing that bothers me. The images themselves I can ignore.

>>718434601
undertale jarate

>>718434669
wait, what? uh, theres unbirthing in this game?

>>718434728
yeah kinda

>>718434848
>wait, what? uh, theres unbirthing in this game?
Sure, why not.

>>718434848
no, there's that drew unbirthing art. just another day in the land of the vidya

>>718431412
>>718434378
Are you guys in need for some motherly hairstyle?

>>718434848
>wait, what? uh, theres unbirthing in this game?
No, somebody posted some ubirthing art in a catbox earlier in the thread.

The game is just a plain Undertale fangame, basically e rated apart from some disturbing scenes and violence. No sex stuff at all.

>>718434601
no, anon.
qrd:
>undertale's mcguffin is [human souls]
>king of the underground is collecting them so that he can break the magical barrier that seals monsterkind
>one of the human souls is yellow
>the fangame follows that soul

>>718434461
Exactly

Kanako's sweaty paws.

>>718435021
thats the "doomed" hairstyle

>>718435021
I guess my image of "mother" is a middle aged or older women who has to keep her hair up because menopause makes her unable to tolerate heat. I suppose Martlet's probably in her late 20s or early 30s, so she wouldn't be to that stage yet. But I maintain that her old fashioned hair cut (seriously looks straight out of the 1060s) makes her look more mature.

>>718435042
...wait. its a fan game? its not actually a real game from the real original developer? thats somehow weirder then the 3 anons that jumped in to explain the specifics of unbirthing in relation to this game (thanks tho, i appreciate it). is undertale yellow a fan game, for real?

>>718435426
> thats somehow weirder then-
the only reason you'd find this weird is if you're either a tendie or AAA worshipper.

>>718435426
Undertale Yellow is a fan game. The largest and most complete Undertale fan game to date.

These threads are moreso about Undertale fangames as a whole though, even if UTY is the main topic of discussion. A lot of devs like to hand around in here to discuss their projects.

>>718435426
considering the guy who made undertale got his start making fan games, and yellow is the only full length one should make it make a little more sense.

>>718435519
im guessing that tendie means nintendo fan, so nope on that front, and triple a games? nah. dunno what to tell you, im literally playing some never-ever early access tech demo. the last big triple a game i played was a pirated copy of one those recentish wolfenstien games, it kinda sucked. the guns felt like pea shooters.

Pls someone make one adult clover x martlet art there are so few

>>718435832
anon are you drunk, you're namefagging with one of your previous post numbers

>>718435967
Its my first time using 4chan ;_;

>>718435021
Love this hairstyle.

I ship Ceroba with Martlet.

>>718436078
lurk for a year before posting.

>>718436078
clover marrying Martlet as soon as he gets underground. Martlet having clovers kids soon after. you taking those numbers out of your posts!

>>718411865
Oh wow that's a lot of requests, I wasn't expecting that many lol.
Looks like wholesome/Nude DRY Martlet and Zenith Martlet arts appear to be the most popular requests in this thread.

>>718436197
Honestly i hate this ship, martlet and ceroba aren't lesbians and martlet don't give a fuck about ceroba's death

>>718436428
Make one art of martlet pregnant by clover( clover fucked martlet and let her pregnant)

>>718436428
You're a drawanon that draws very good drawings alongside Sig another UTY artist who also draws great stuff.
This was bound to happen drawanon, congrats.

>>718351551 (OP)
Generals aren't allowed on /v/ especially for unofficial games

>>718436845
see >>718376990

>>718436845
this is not a general. "long term reoccurring thread" was referring to how before /vg/ they allowed 24/7 threads that would indefinitely be remade. that's why they added to the rule "This is not to say threads about specific games cannot be created on /v/" when they originally made it. having a couple threads every week or so is actively not what generals are or were.

>>718436078
>Its my first time using 4chan ;_;
...did you find these threads from looking at the source on the e621 UTY drawings?

>>718437010
Yeah, i wanted to find some people to talk about uty

>>718437261
Well you are the second (that we know of) guy who discovers these threads thanks to us using e621 as an archive for the art made by anons here
the first was Undertale Wildfire's main dev

>>718436989
This is a general, you can be honest here, anon.

>>718437480
having been on this site since 2007, the least I can say is that no this is not a general. its just a thread about a video game. its not even "general" in scope and much more specific in aim. its not a 24/7 thread as yellow is left off the board for days at a time. Its just a good ol fashioned video game thread.

>>718437558
Just because you guys space it out over a week doesn't stop being one. It's still a continuous gathering to talk about the same topics with the same people.

>>718437741
ok cool, see >>718376990

>>718437480
Generals belong on /vg/. As this thread is nothing like the ones on /vg/, it can not be a general.

>>718437741
no, it actually does stop it from being one because of why the general rule was created in the first place, something you would know if you were around at that time. but its ok because we know you dont do this for all the actual ai generals

Mooch is a menace to society

Spergy wannabe jannies

>>718436078
We all start somewhere. I lurked 4chan for a couple years but made my first post in these threads a while back. >>718436315 is a douche, but correct in that lurking threads is very useful for learning the culture

>>718431615
>t. professor oak

I wanna test something out.
Throw me some simple (i.e, 1-2 character) sketch requests, and I'll do whatever interests me whenever I have some down time.
I don't promise masterpieces, but I'll do what I can, if any ideas catch my eye.

>>718439607
>and don't forget me, your LAID husband

>>718442896
Susie and Roba solving difficult puzzles

>>718442896
Colo with his dark world design doing the pose from RDR2 cover art

Ceroba choking on a chicken leg in a cartoony manner.

>>718442896
Gerson mentoring Martlet

>>718443110
Yeah, I might do this one.
Toss me his dark world design, I don't know that off the top of my head.

>>718442896
Mooch teasing Ceroba over the fact that she doesn't have a big fluffy tail.

>>718443395
here you go

>>718442896
DRY1 Martlet zonked out after a long day

Pls someone make one adult clover x martlet, we need more clovlet

>>718444917
anon clear your name field.

>>718444917
is this some kind of ploy to try and get SS martlet

>>718442896
Shu and Val recreating that scene where kid Trunks punches Mr Satan, with Shu as Mr Satan. Alternatively if that's too much to ask then just Shu as Mr Satan and Val doing the Waku Waku face.

>>718445423
Okay, I might do Shu as Mr.Satan, and I'll consider that second one if you can do two things for me.
One, provide a reference for who Val is and a decent image reference.
Two, explain to me what the hell a "Waku Waku" face is. I've been a fan of Dragon Ball Z for most of my life, and I swear to god I don't know what that means but I always see it paired with Goku for some reason.

>>718445341
Done

>>718443010
>>718443110
>>718443954
>>718445423
Alright, these are the ones I think I'll do at the
moment, but feel free to toss a few more my way before the thread closes and I might consider them too.
I make no promises as to when I'll deliver on any of these, but I will try my hardest to get to these ones. If I don't, it's not because I lied, it's because I failed.

>>718445792
>One, provide a reference for who Val is and a decent image reference.
Val is the human from Undertale Naranja. His whole bit is that he's a DBZ spic kid who jumps into the undeground because he's pretending to be Goku and he heard the monsters were strong, only because he's a human in a world of monsters, he may as well be Goku. He's the only human in this spritesheet.

Since you haven't played the Naranja demo, I'll just give you a highlight reel of stuff he does.
>Eat rocks
>Knocks a monster's teeth out then takes them as a healing item
>Punches bullets out of the air
>Literally says "I heard you were strong" when he picks a fight with a monster

>I've been a fan of Dragon Ball Z for most of my life, and I swear to god I don't know what that means but I always see it paired with Goku for some reason.
Waku waku is Goku's catchphrase in the japanese dub. Its mainly associated with Goku doing stupid shit for the sake of a good fight.

>>718409619
>dig to find referenced argument
>look in anti's bio
>minor
every time

>>718446350
Alright, but what's the "Waku Waku" face?

>>718445792
Here's the Waku Waku face. Its basically thhe 4chan version of the "I heard you were strong" meme.

In the context here, the idea is that Val is about to murder Shu because he believes he's strong, so he can go all out.

>>718442896
ceroba doing a kickflip

Pls someone tell me i am not the only one who find this dialogue weird >:3

>>718446590
Alright, thanks.
I'll see when I can get to all these. Keep in mind that I did say sketches, so any/all of these may go uncolored, depending on how I feel about it.
Go easy on me, when I return at an unspecified point in the future.

>>718445341
Is that a better or worse kind of SS than this?
>>718358681

>>718445792
>>718446350
>One, provide a reference for who Val is and a decent image reference.
The sprites from Naranja's intro also show Val in more detail

>>718446775
That's fine. I just want a funny Shu and Val drawing. You can do it as shitty as you want.

Last for fangames yet to come.

Alright, thread's sinking. This was a good one everybody, good job this time. We spent a little longer talking about rape than was perhaps necessary, but it is what it is.

I found this image on Twitter of Clover and Starlo getting upset over what Martlet was saying during the Flawed Pacifist ending. Do you think she was saying poor excuses?

>>718447215
Undertale fangame that focuses on the green soul where you turn your frying pan into a dying pan

What if a fangame implemented RE style limited saves?

>>718447374
she was absolutely right it just very awkward to make the argument to the persons grieving the death.

>>718447374
Neither Martlet nor Starlo watched the fight, the last thing they knew was that Ceroba tried to kill Clover and he just acted in self defense

Hopefully this one won't get deleted this time

before we die, https://wplace.live/?lat=37.24019509755777&lng=-105.62299837822266
there's an UTY art stash on wplace
fucking protogen furry NIGGER shitting it all up

>>718447548
Alright, let's roll the dice.

>>718447548
I took that one anons advice and worked on learning bird wings compared to human arms. One day I will earn bird.

>>718447548
You know what time it is

>>718447491
Limited saves or limited retries?
I have an idea I want to implement for my fangame which consists of adding an "ironman mode" that gives you limited retries, your retries get replenished after each boss fight, if you lose all your retries your save is deleted, I also thought of adding very short Nier Automata style endings depending of where you lost yout last retry, dying to final bosses would unlock short cutscenes instead of just a description

>>718447710
I'd called that limited lives. Limited saves means you can only save so many times.

>>718447548
I need some chicken breasts

>>718447548
Why even post it in the first place?

>>718447783
To roll.

>>718447753
Wouldn't change much since the only times you die in Undertale/Deltarune is during boss fights, and when those take place is usually very obvious

>>718447548
GO

>>718447578
>Shu is there
We just can't escape from him, can we?

>>718447548
Smooch mooch

>>718447903
of course not.
im half tempted to label that row of reddit OCs as the cringe corner.

>>718447838
Saves also regenerate your health, and players use that a lot.

>>718447903
Someone needs to deface that thing asap.

>>718447982
Draw an arrow pointing to him that says "jobbed to Clover (jacket)"

>>718447578
oh yeah there's also this place called clover hill with a bunch of kanaclover
https://wplace.live/?lat=30.1158616073966&lng=-97.78174837822267

Hey, something just occurred to me.
Shu's, ironically and otherwise, is becoming something of a popular fan character within the UTY community.
That means it's only a matter of time.
It's only a matter of time until some maniac out there makes the first NSFW image of Shu, if it hasn't happened already.
How long do we have until this doomsday clock hits midnight?

>>718369121
> For context, Post UT true pacifist's ending the humans react to the barrier being broken exactly as Ceroba predicted. The ones that surrendered became servants and 2nd class citizens, the ones who resisted were slain or well, you see with Ceroba what they became.
What drives someone to make and post this, and on Reddit of all places?

>>718448621
>associate shu with something like diaperfags or inflation via astroturfed fanart
hmmmmmmm

>>718448621
I wouldn't be surprised if Shufag has his own personal stash of smut he commissions of his OC.

>>718448716
I mean, they did put it on a porn subreddit, so it's not like it's somewhere it shouldn't be.

>>718448716
a fetish

>>718448621
The only aceptable NSFW Shu would be r63 Shu or Shu getting the instant looss 2 koma treatment

>>718448736
If it's a personal stash then that's contained, and that isn't an issue.
What I'm worried about is a containment breach, and I fear we're getting closer and closer to one with each passing day.
Just imagine seeing a Shu image on esix.
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

>>718448810
I would accept it being a panel of him fucking roba followed by a second panel showing it was a piece he commissioned with his mom's credit card.

>>718448917
I'd personally rather have Shu be wiped from the face of the earth, but to each their own.

>>718448864
I think you want this to happen because it would be funny and you're trying to precipitate it by acting concerned to bait someone into making shu smut.

>>718448963
I like the idea of him as a larper who lives in his mom's basement.

I think it would be nice if we weren't ending the thread talking about shu and rape fantasies but at the least heres another bird. goodnight and farewell anons.

>>718448974
No, I'm genuinely afraid of this.
The "jesus christ how horrifying" is a reference to that one webcomic, you know the one.
Anyway, I'm surprised it hasn't happened already from someone doing it ironically. Thankfully, I don't know anyone of any actual artistic skill who would be willing to do such a thing, so for now it seems this Pandora's box is staying shut.

>>718449080
>I think it would be nice if we weren't ending the thread talking about shu and rape fantasies
>Shu is just as bad as rape
Honestly, fair.

>>718449093
>The "jesus christ how horrifying" is a reference to that one webcomic, you know the one.
Call me a newfag if you want, but I genuinely don't know the one.

I just seen Deltarune thread die on page 10 without autosage or bump limit. This Susie is homeless now, please take care of her.

>>718448864
>Just imagine seeing a Shu image on esix.
He could apper on esix, but it would be an image of him writting a fanfic of himself while his sister is getting railed next room

>>718449227
Nah, I won't lay into you too hard.
Here's the panel I'm talking about, the rest of the strip is whatever, but this panel has been used a ton throughout the internet.

>>718449232
Well he's gonna stay that way. We don't tolerate off topic futas here.

>>718449232
>I just seen Deltarune thread die on page 10 without autosage or bump limit. This Susie is homeless now, please take care of her.
Moved her out of a sunk ship onto a sinking ship.

>>718449292
Who's doing the railing?

>>718449394
I dunno maybe an OC from these threads it could be Cole or Val

>>718448721
Inflation isn't enough, I need that twink brutalized.

>>718449459
I'd pick a meme answer like Arron or Sans.

>>718449394
Clover.

>>718449484
Brutalized as in getting beated up or as in getting is ass destroyed?

>>718449524
Clover would never cheat on Kanako

>>718449484
>>718448721
This all feels a bit mean to me. This is just some kid playing with his OC.

>>718449617
Fine, every single other man in the underground then. Everyone.

>>718449684
Its this but with Shu's sister

>>718449675
>This is just some kid playing with his OC.
And posting it on the internet, where it is subject to the whims of places like this.