Thread 718525064

Mech... Power armor kino is back on the menu, boys.

first DxM was just kinda okay iirc

I'm downloading it now. The first game was pretty fun so I've been curious about this one.

>>718525064 (OP)
>Power armor
Good job killing the IP

>demo drops
>literally no one talking about it

>>718527718
From already did that when they released AC6.

>>718528403
That's a different IP, these guys were free to do whatever they wanted and they chose to appeal to the anthem fanbase.

>>718529032
The only value DXM ever had was being discount AC in a time when AC wasn't getting new games.

>>718530908
It also got the tendie boost because it was a switch exclusive for a short period.

Honestly a fun idea.

look at my boy in the demo

>Nearly 50 gb for a demo
>Full game is supposed to be just a couple of GB bigger

>Supposed to run away and leave Nerve behind
>Keep fighting instead
>Boss' health goes down at a snail's pace
>After getting him down to about 70% HP Nerve's dialogue changes from telling you to run away to saying you're in this together
>Spend 20 minutes whittling down his HP
>Once you get it to the last sliver he just stops taking damage
Holy fucking kusoge, these devs are utterly retarded, if they were going to pull this shit they should've made him stop taking damage as soon as Nerve tells you to run, never mind adding extra dialogue to make it seem like you can beat it.

>>718531660
Killing younglings again?

>>718532384
nyes
even by spinning

>Open world
Ahahahahahahaahahahaahahaha
hahahahahahaaha
hahahahahahaahahahaahahaha
Ahahahahahaha

>>718531280
I'm honestly not sure if anyone would even know the first game existed if it didn't have tendies screaming about it when it was first announced.

>>718525064 (OP)
Power armor is not mechs, fuck off

>>718527718
No one likes mechas but everyone likes Iron Man; it was the perfect choice

>But muh AC6 sales
People bought it because it had From Software's logo on its box and the infatuation over Elden Ring was still strong; nothing more.

>>718525064 (OP)
Wait they don't have mechas anymore? Just power armor? Dropped.

>>718532765
>No one likes mechas but everyone likes Iron Man; it was the perfect choice
Yeah that's why Anthem did so well huh

>>718525064 (OP)
How is performance on the switch 2? 60fps or 30fps? May get it on PC game looks legit like a sleeper hit.

>>718525064 (OP)
wait i get it
Deus x machina
but this is not deus, but a demon
Daemon x machina

heh

>>718525064 (OP)
Kinda a shame it's not centered around mechs, I think power armor is gay and loses a lot of the spectacle. But considering they put in the effort to make a character creator even on the first game, I guess this development makes sense.
Still, will try it out.

>inject yourself with monster dna for skills
>you just get more fucked up the more skills you add

I think power armor is cool

What the fuck is the point of being able to save your character appearance data if they don't carry over to another save file?

so how's the gameplay? I tried the original and I remember not liking it.

>>718533715
Wake up burning, get Cross-Z Dragon

>>718534741
R U REDDEH

Just played the demo, its quite ambitious considering what the first game was like but I think its quite different gameplay from the first

>>718527718
You can deploy and enter actual mechs and they're what you're going to using to the fight the world bosses

>some characters summon their armor when they fight
>some are just rawdogging it with no armor and just a weapon

>>718525064 (OP)
Was the first one good? Everyone kinda forgot about it after Armored Core came out

>>718535234
no

>>718533694
I liked that about the first game
That the more upgrades you bought the more of an ugly freak your character became

>>718535234
Not really. Tried to play it last month and luckily learned it wasn't for me within 2 hours.

DEMO HAS COOP
WE CAN PLAY!!

I wish i could change the visuals for buttons
using a switch controller and they've got the gay japanese set up where a is b and x is y and what not

Im glad they kept the same style of music. AC6 was so disappointing without the buttrock and just wanted the souls audience.

How the fuck did final boss music go from this

https://youtu.be/Wp3t9Nwjr_8

to this

https://youtu.be/Co6KAWDkXXo

>>718535234
I thought it was decent. Fun gameplay but horrible story.

>>718536317
AC soundtrack is nowhere close to buttrock, zoomer.

>>718536317
AC6 was a mistake on every single sense.

>>718536317
imagine posting v day to try and prove a point that 6 is soulless.

>>718536317
ACV has no good song other than mechanized memories

>>718533067
Stable 30, looks good, plays well and didn't notice any resolution fuckery

>>718536317
AC6 has only 1 flaw, no save files. I want to start over from scratch and have limited access to weapons and have to unlock stuff again. All AC games except 6 have that feature. Bizarre they didn't patch it in.

>70 bucks
Motherfucker why must we do this.
>>718538079
Could try removing the save file data and restarting, though be careful of you use steam's cloud feature.

>>718535459
real niggas built their character for aesthetics rather than power

>>718532765
>everyone likes Iron Man
No, they like Robert Downey Jr. I remember before the marvel films iron man was a b-tier hero. Power suits are also niche but they basically have no fanbase while mechs are niche but have a lot of nerds who are obsessed with them (or atleast grew up with eva, gundam, gurren lagann, and a billion other mech shows). A lot of millennials have a soft spot for mechs in the right context, in the same way many 40+ year old nerds have a soft spot for space ships because of starwars and startrek.

power suits aren't a fantasy with any compelling media history and so they will always flop.

>>718538243
It's just not the same, and forget it if you have the PS4/PS5 version. It's just stupid, no multisaves is such a bizarre hill for FROM to die on. Even Elden Ring has that

So they dropped mecha for the non-existent Anthem crowd that is also into anime

>>718534981
>You can deploy and enter actual mechs
is there any footage of this? They've been avoiding it this entire time. If mechs are just some tiny powerup you use for 5 % of the game when fighting a boss I'm still not interested.

All I remember abojt this first game is that hopping out of your mech and just chucking grenades at the bosses was actually really strong since they couldnt properly target you.

>>718536317
NO MORE

CRY BOY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oq9-TrH1GI&list=RD0oq9-TrH1GI&start_radio=1

Are they still doing the thing the first game did where as you upgrade your pilot more and more of their biological body is cut away to install "upgrades"?
Because I'm not interested unless I can make a cute girl pilot and slowly turn her into a cyborg husk.

>>718538641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZGFh8HHEjI

>>718538848
see
>>718533694

>>718538727
that was how i beat the last boss. he destroyed my mech but i barely survived to take his last sliver of hp on foot. felt pretty dramatic

>>718538948
Ooooh. Mutation is an interesting twist on it. Thanks anon I might have to check it out then.
Cute women slowly becoming monsters is kino

>>718539176
>Cute women slowly becoming monsters is my fetish
ftfy

>>718538328
No, they like power suits, to the point where every single piece of science fiction or even science fiction fantasy features them to some degree.

No one gives a single shit about mechas besides a few weebs and nerds.

maybe this time they'll have the decemtcy to not make the best boss in the game online-lobby exclusive
sure, you can still fight zeruchroar in a solo lobby, but the ai companions are so braindead that winning is basically impossible

>>718525064 (OP)
>After spamming T a lot finally get outside
>suddenly legs gone and game starts bugging out
at least iron out the demo's bugs

>>718525064 (OP)
is the first game any good?
i have never played it, or armored core 6
but i like anime and big ass mechs (MCW fan here)
so?

>>718539254
Not quite, women exploding is my fetish. Women transforming into monsters (ideally while retaining their humanity/reason) does fascinate me on an intellectual and kind of emotional level but doesn't do anything sexually.
ironically one of the later upgrades your pilot could get was the ability to self destruct, but by the time you get it your pilot is basically all mechanical so it didn't have the impact for me that it could have

>>718525064 (OP)
never heard of this series but I am willing to try it

>>718539270
No one likes ironman for the power armor. Its because robert d jr was crutching the entire franchise.
>>718539510
Story is ass and its ac but every build is a biped with infinite flight

>>718537626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQR7pxjOT1Q

Before I start shoving resources into it, anyone know if beacon restoration is worth it?

>>718539510
it's okay. be aware it was developed for nintendo, so it is a bit underpowered cxompared to AC series but still has its own quirks

>>718525064 (OP)
>Power armor
Wasn't this IP about mechas? And don't come with "mechas don't sell", this a sequel which means the first game sold well.

>>718532465
That's a good trick.

>>718539698
>No one likes ironman for the power armor
>Said by no one ever

I think the main problem is mecha games have shit gamefeel for the most part except for Armored Core 6 and that's why that one sold really well while this won't.

>>718539279
>you can still fight zeruchroar in a solo lobby, but the ai companions are so braindead that winning is basically impossible
Are you kidding me?
Every single fight in DXM is braindead easy and AI NPCs also buff you beyond belief by just existing, that dogshit chink Nineball goes down in like one minute of bazooka shots

>>718535234
It was very solidly average. It had some good ideas like picking up new parts from destroyed mechs, and a kind of monster hunter style big robot hunts. Some weren't so good, like the knockback being so strong that you got free I-frames for the entire time you falling, on the ground, and getting up. So weapons that caused high knockback were crap against other mechs but good on targets that didn't even need nor suffer knockback at all. You could get out of the mech (not that you really wanted to) and run around. It was fine, but evidently it did just well enough for a second game. Sadly no mechs this time around.

>>718540053
AC6 sold because normalfags go "I see From logo I buy", similar to how Nintendo fans go.
You're vastly overestimating that game.

>>718540124
the power armor is effectively Mech parts with a gooey center, in terms of gameplay.

also this one looks alot better than the first, I think the first benefited heavily from being on the Switch.

>>718535234
It was pretty terrible, they threw their budget away on getting Char and Amuro VAs for their forgettable story.

>>718535234
it's mid as fuck and "we have armored core at home"
lots of issues
>DOGSHIT story and characters
>have to equip two arm parts, but no head, just torso, for some fucking reason. Just fucking have head, torso, legs and arms.
>annoying research system and diablo loot
>the action itself is kinda boring for the most part
>good multiplayer mode with not enough content
it had its moments but was mostly "okay". not bad, just passable

>>718539947
You underestimate the shallowness of normies
>>718539279
Gargantua and the butler dude are the only useful npc
>>718539897
The old mechs are now timed summon

>>718539270
If something is ubiquitous then its not a point of identity, its generic. You're widening the net to include the boring as fuck space marine in armour, that isn't something you trade your only noteworthy trait for.

> besides a few weebs and nerds.
who do you think is buying this anime as fuck weebshit game?

>>718538927
>mechs are on a 50 second timer
fucking skip, this game has been erased from my memory. good luck to the retards who made this and are going to go bankrupt.

>>718541269
>who do you think is buying this anime as fuck weebshit game?
People who like power armors; an audience vastly bigger than the audience who like mecha.

>>718539510
The first time I played it I got to a mission where I somehow, without knowing how I did it, exited my mech and was stuck on the ground walking around as the pilot the rest of the mission. I stood next to my mech trying every button to get back in but the game was like "nah lil bruh, you don't get to have fun here"
Worst experience I had with a game for a while, it was within the first hour so I refunded.
Genuinely ass. MechAssault Lone wolf did mech that you could exit out of much better over 10 years before the release of DxM.
It looks like with their new game they threw away the whole mech aspect and they decided they want to be an open world arpg with jet packs and armor instead. Keep in mind they launched a hastily put together teaser right after AC6 was announced (almost 3 years ago) so this thing was probably in development hell trying to rework the gameplay for years. I can't imagine how dogshit this new game will be.

Absolutely no one gives a shit about spoilers, but I'll still warn that the 40GB demo, very obviously, has a bunch of the game in its files, including (probably) the entire story.

>>718541683
Yes... the audience who are massive fans of live action marvel films, generic western space marines and anthem who somehow are also very into hyper obscure weebshit, that venn diagram has to be massive.

The audience for this is AC fans and weebs who like mechs, that's it. You abandon that audience and you're left with nobody. If they wanted normie capeshitters to buy this it wouldn't look like a JP exclusive anime game from 2005.

>>718542224
>40 GB demo
Indian-tier slop.

>>718542271
I'm pretty sure it will sell vastly better than the first DXM.
Power armor >>>>>>> mecha. It's just how it is.

>>718542271
what do you mean? turning marvel into anime is making way more money than before

>>718528403
>Still buttblasted about the best game in the franchise because it came out in 2023 instead of when he was a kid

>>718542379
Well that and just the fact that it is open world vs the mission/stage based structure of the first game will make it more appealing to a normie.

>still looks like a Switch 1 game
>stutters like I'm emulating a Switch game without async shaders
Now I install throwaway crap like this demo to my storage HDD so maybe there's that but still Jesus

Anyways it's not that big of a deal about this game specifically but I am fucking tired of health packs in so called mecha games man.

>>718541420
Fucking really?

>>718542379
It will not outsell DxM because DxM sold pretty much entirely because it launched at a discount price on PC and people lied about it being an Armored Core replacement while they are insane enough to sell this shit for $70.

>>718525064 (OP)
>not my Daemon x Machina
i want mechs not crappy ironman faggot armor

The demo is pretty damn good once you actually get to the planet's surface. Not sure about full price, but I'm definitely keeping an eye on this.

>>718536317
>AC6 was so disappointing without the buttrock and just wanted the souls audience.
You didn't play AC6. It might not be as bombastic as previous games in terms of lyrics, but it's pretty fucking disingenuous to say it appeals to the "Souls audience" when it's nothing even close to Souls music. It's still barely legible lyrics over funky beats.

>>718528403
You fucking mindbroken idiot

>>718542464
AC6 isn't even the best AC tho

>>718538927
Looks like the exact same slow, floaty hover slop as DxM1.

>>718532765
>No one likes mechas but everyone likes Iron Man
Is this one of those stupid as fuck zoomer takes I keep hearing about?

>>718542682
Are you really going to pretend that Steel Haze is the entire OST

>>718538927
>pops out of the ground when summoned
Really high effort

>>718542776
It is, it's not even a contest. And before the dick measuring comes out, my first AC was 1 in 99, my first PS2 game was AC2 in 2003, I played nearly all of 3rd gen excluding Ninebreaker and Last Raven because getting them here in Estonia was fucking impossible. Like harder than usual to get games.

the first game is kinda boring
will this be better?

>>718539270
>Muh weeeeebs
There it is. The westerncuck bears seethes

Watching mecha fans getting mad as fuck (even when they wouldn't touch it even if it still had mecha because it isn't Mechwarrior or a licensed PS2 game) shows that Marvelous made the right decision.

How many of you already preordered SRWY?

>>718543068
why do you like armored snore till 6 am

>>718543013
>Are you really going to pretend that Steel Haze is the entire OST
No, I'm not.

https://youtu.be/sMAqC2BVXCc
https://youtu.be/98mfnWq9FUY
https://youtu.be/waQqK6N6tTU
https://youtu.be/aCu93MKq7ec
https://youtu.be/DWj23-cI3YQ
https://youtu.be/g0YGUmECEj4
https://youtu.be/3_o5YM5ONDo
https://youtu.be/RDrj6cdOnNo
https://youtu.be/AWksqXzkvbk

>>718532765
If it works like the faggy iron man suit then I'm out. I bought the first one because I love mechs

>>718543310
Are you genuinely retarded

>>718543252
Because it was the best of ACFA and 3rd gen mixed together. The only real complaint I have was focusing on the dogshit PvP, which has NEVER been good, over co-op missions. That was like the one part of the V games worth a turd.

>>718543068
>My first AC was the first one, so my shit taste matters!
Whatever lil nigga, AC6 was still Nexus-tier

>>718539176
Did you enjoy Pandora's Tower?

>>718543707
>babby filtered by heat
lol
lmao

>>718543431
>4th gen fag
VD was way better than FA

>>718543419
No, I'm just not suffering from a perpetual case of midlife crisis, which seems to be a thing with most of /v/ all the time. Very few songs in the old AC games are even listenable, I'm not about to conflate childhood nostalgia with actual quality. Hoshino's play-by-ear has improved dramatically over the years, and his original work is mostly one-hit wonders surrounded by the audio equivalent of dogshit. For every masterpiece like "Artificial Line" or "Morning, Lemontea", he'd produce unlistenable trash -- like almost the entirety of the Armored Core 2 soundtrack.

>>718543754
Heat isn't what makes Nexus (Evo disc, Revo was great) a middle-tier game.

>>718543837
Bro I'm not reading that because none of that makes the electronic screeching noises you linked "vocals over funky beats" you projecting deadbeat.

>>718543837
>Very few songs in the old AC games are even listenable
NTA but you are a gigantic faggot

>>718543837
Dude, Gen 1/2 are the only AC gen with actual good music with the exception of Nexus

>>718543431
Ac6 pvp is a afterthought

>>718543948
Inevitably every AC6 shillposter's act devolves into "I'm a bigger Armored Core fan than you but Armored Core was never good"

>>718544039
>Nexus having a better OST than 3 or Silent Line
Delusional.

>>718544047
It's always been an afterthought.

>>718544058
Pointing out the flaws in games you like is not "it's always been bad." It's called not being an autist.

>>718544058
>These old games had flaws
>OH SO THEY WERE NEVER GOOD HUH
Are you from Reddit?

>>718525064 (OP)
the demo was fun, but I hate the open world shit. do normies really enjoy it that much?

>>718544058
>I'm a bigger Armored Core fan than you but Armored Core was never good
kek, they took notes from the Fire Emblem threads

/m/ has the most deranged autists I swear.

>>718544116
Autobahn alone shits on every single song from 3 and every Silent Line song outside of Monkey Likes Daddy and Nexus also has the superior remix of that one so it still comes out on top effortlessly.

>>718544252
I don't know. The /m/ thread for the game seems generally fine, but /m/ accepts both mecha and power armor.

>>718525064 (OP)
How super robot is it? Is the combat flashy? Any insert song?

>>718544284
Sorry I don't listen to queers

https://youtu.be/lJeqKxp1tcY

>>718544147
And ac6 is one of flawed(dogshit) games

>>718542424
you type like a retarded bot, there is no flow or logic between the shit you say, its just key word bananza.

>>718530908
>>718531280
Both of these are true. I'll have to try the demo and I'm kinda disappointed in the focus on power armour instead of mechs, but I actually liked what little I played of Anthem

>>718544614
There isn't a single AC game that isn't rife with flaws. Your mistake is believing I'm saying AC6 is flawless.

V and VD still are and away the worst of the bunch by a longshot. Just an unnecessary detour in the formula that was so unpopular among fans it was impossible, not almost, completely impossible to party up online in Europe. I had to MSM fuckers through the most backwater forums to get sessions going.

>>718544567
Fuck you Silent man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaL2Tv3TgfM&list=PLF3B8ECB22D92FF14&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v31J3arX5Kg&list=PLF3B8ECB22D92FF14&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=optRdafwysw&list=PLF3B8ECB22D92FF14&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCGvi4ic9k0&list=PLF3B8ECB22D92FF14&index=16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9yppasLLB4&list=PLF3B8ECB22D92FF14&index=17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eObh-he5eEw&list=PLF3B8ECB22D92FF14&index=18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko8-K9_AyDQ&list=PLF3B8ECB22D92FF14&index=30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PITigYAkXo&list=PLF3B8ECB22D92FF14&index=34

>>718544802
Sir I had to play for Answer with Japanesus from the start and I live in a real country and not a 3rd world backwater cunt that you have to cover up by calling it "Europe", this is Armored Core.

>>718545057
Um excuse me, I'll have you know Estonia is 2nd world.

>>718544802
>>718543068
>Heres some unrelated bullshit
I don't care about you

>>718545224
Likewise, giganigger.

Does demo progress carry over to the full game?

How do you play the card game? I have a bunch of cards already.

how does m+kb feel

>>718542734
He didn't say anything wrong.

>>718544684
>If they wanted normie capeshitters to buy this it wouldn't look like a JP exclusive anime game from 2005.
several marvel games came out. the most successful one was rivals, the anime one

>>718541989
This game will probably be shit but your post just sounds like you being a fucking retard and taking it out on the game.

>>718545057
Based Japanese matchmaking enjoyer. You haven’t truly lived until you’ve gotten your ass kicked by some dude named "KaRasu_777" running a reverse-joint quad with a moonlight blade while typing "おつかれ" in all chat after every match. Europe AC lobbies were like walking into a nuclear bunker and finding a single other guy just happy someone showed up. True Armored Core experience is solitude and suffering - welcome to AC.

It looks like an improvement but I'm sure as fuck not spending money on this series again unless I'm 100% sure.

>>718547254
>welcome to AC
Do they give you this achievement the first time you die like Dark Souls? epicly hard...

>>718547160
Ignoring the fact that normie MCU and comic/cartoon marvel are different entities with different audiences. Rivals isn't a hyper weeb game, its a chinese overwatch clone with anime flavour. DxM is niche weebshit for the type of person who still cares about AC and Zone of the enders.

>>718547964
I honestly don't know who DxM is actually for and I don't think they do either. But then that seems to apply to all giant robot stuff that isn't Gundam for the last 10ish years.

>>718525064 (OP)
souls slop
30 mins they took my one shit gun away now i have dev data on a mace?
give me the shittiist looking mech ever
falying around lost its novelty in a bout 2 mins
dogshit pile of ass game

this is fucking anthem but worse

holy shit

>>718528403
oldgenfag here AC6 is fucking awesome

>>718547964
dxm is for megalosers

>looks like absolute shit, even worse than some Switch 1 games
>Plays like shit
>Some of the worst voice acting and story telling in a modern game
Never dropped a demo so fast. Even fucking Dolls Nest is better.

>>718548591
>staggerslop
>>>>>awesome

Some of my thoughts so far:
>intro is kind of silly the way the MC gets flung out into space only to immediately try and go back and rescue the dude like a tard
>they probably should've just had a fixed MC at this point because the character creator seems pointless
>it feels a lot different from the first so far and much larger scale
>melee weapons now have combos which is nice
>grab combat mechanic which lets you grab stunned enemies is nice
>it's definitely moving away from the Armored Core style mech game, which is evident by the power armor

I'm still not very far into the demo but that's after about an hour or so of play.

>>718548531
immediately what i thought of getting in the suits

>>718548810
is the story still painfully bad?

>>718527718
Yep fuck this game. I’ll just play Prototype if I want this kind of game.

I love roberts so much bros

>>718548427
It's not "souls" at all, what are you even smoking?

is the first game any good?
t. only played the ps1 armored core games

>>718528403
AC7 is going to sell even better than AC6.

>>718542904
Millennials are completely obsessed with the idea that no one ever likes mecha, and literally every single case of them doing well is some magical fluke that could never be repeated and would never work with a sequel.

You can bring up pacific rim or AC6 or even that gundam is back at all time high sales, and they will stroke their willy and cry that mecha is doomed and it'll never be popular ever.


Anyway I like power armor too and they're both in the same field so whatever. DxM1 sucked ass.

>>718548862
Its worse. Now you get endless dialogue while exploring the open world.

>>718548894
Every third-person action game is souls now.

>>718548906
not enough content, like at all

>>718548862
It seems better so far and like they're putting more effort into it but it's still too early to say. It'll likely be another clice mecha anime story but I think it'll at least be better than the first game's story. That's a really low bar though.

>>718549014
can I finish it during a weekend?

>direct x 12 is unsupported on your computer
>change launch settings
>crash
>update graphics card drivers
>direct x 12 is unsupported on your computer
>manually update direct x 12
>direct x 12 is unsupported on your computer
>install direct x 12 agility
>direct x 12 is unsupported on your computer
>reluctantly update windows
>direct x 12 is unsupported on your computer
>reinstall graphics card drivers
>direct x 12 is unsupported on your computer
>go take a shit
>now it works perfectly

>>718528403
AC6 is just souls slop with a mech skin plastered on it. Truly one of the worst games I’ve played. Doesn’t even have fucking sniper cannons.

>>718548906
There's a demo, just try it yourself. It's okay if you like fast paced mecha games, just don't play it for the story.

>>718547964
>Rivals isn't a hyper weeb game
Rivals is incredibly weeb. Anime is popular now, you're just stuck in an early 2000's SA anti-anime worldframe, where you think naruto is for nerds.

>>718535234
In some ways it was the AC game I always wanted. It’s almost a 3D Gun Hazard except with a wildly inferior story.

>>718525064 (OP)
>Femtree

>>718528403
BASED.

title music is drastically worse than dxm 1's

>>718549132
You "slop" posters are getting more and more retarded by the day. I don't care if you didn't like AC6 but no, it's not "souls" whatsoever.

>>718549098
I'd say yeah, but last time I played it was 5 years ago and I have 40 hours. I know a huge amount of that was in the random gen 'dungeon' mode or something like that

>>718549190
my exact reaction when the map legend popped up

>>718549260
it's sekiroslop

>>718538957
Based, I had the same experience. Incredibly memorable.

>>718548951
Pacific Rim was eleven gorillion years ago and barely made back half its budget domestically retard. Gundam exists outside the boundaries of its genre in the way that Dragon Quest can still make money with a bog standard early 90s RPG or Smash is the only platform fighter that ever has or will matter.

>>718549190
also it looks like a fucking marker from deadspace lmao

>>718548862
The demo pretty much just gives you the setup. It's pretty generic, but I like the fact that the MC seems like a straight laced no nonsense kind of person instead of being a silent protagonist.

>>718540053
This isn’t a mecha game

>>718549379
>Gundam exists outside the boundaries of its genre
Gundam IS the genre. Gundam literally invented the entire modern concept of the gun-armed military mecha. Everyone else just copied it. And it's a billion dollar franchise on the upswing right now, so it looks like that's just gonna keep happening.

>>718549157
No, its a casual game with anime influence just like overwatch, its not even japanese. Im painfully aware how popular anime is now and I'm also aware of what is actual weebshit

>>718548220
Its obvious who the first game was for but they probably lost confidence in that market and are now pivoting but I have no idea who they are pivoting to. Success in these niche genres isn't that difficult to attain, just give the casuals a good story with nice music and they will get on board with anything.

>>718549623
Weebs are so powerful now that china completely gave up all its previous attempts at marketing their culture and have swapped entirely over to remaking anime. Cartoons swapping to "uh the new superman is basically like anime too!" is the same. That's not anime being niche, that's anime being so omnipresent that it's normal to copy them as standard now.

And it's working, too. They're making money hand over fist because anime is so massively profitable these days.

Wow that beginning is horrible. I was actual excited for this game before this demo. I'm hoping the actual game gets better because I'm not liking the gameplay that much either. I actually liked the original for feeling like a good mecha game. This is just third person slop. I almost expected a perfect I frame dodge. I won't even comment on the localization as it's pretty bad already. I just set my text language to nip.

>>718549849
I'm a big mecha fan, DxM should've been for me. But it wasn't. It was just too crap.
>just give the casuals a good story
That was definitely far out of their reach. DxM has some of the worst game storytelling I've ever seen.

>>718549867
Not really. People can sniff this crap out like you wouldn't believe. It might surprise you zoomies, but we've gone through phases of this before, and even a previous "anime" phase before to during the 2000s. You aren't special nor did you discover this medium.

>>718549562
wooping that guy who challenges you made me kek

>first Earth cutscene
>neither character model loads in for 10 seconds so I'm just watching back rings bob up and down

>>718525064 (OP)
Just hit the title card on the demo.

I can admire a game trying to punch above its weight class in the writing and cinematography department but holy shit this is embarassing. The jump cut to the title after the “dramatic” fall back to the blue planet was funny as fuck.

Gameplay seems okay so far but I need to get used to the controls

>>718549969
Zoomers like anime more than millennials ever did. This is a different world to watching 4kids on a saturday morning.

>>718549994
>>>/vt/ranny

>>718550196
Nope, It's honestly just more annoying since the western fags no have influence over the medium as opposed to creating two separate versions of it.

>>718550262
*Now have

Damn unreal 5 is a real piece of crap isn't it? I thought it couldn't get worse than 4, but somehow games just play worse.

>>718549867
You dont seem to understand that the reason china doesnt have a national identity in its culture is that the communists threw everything in the bin. In the key years every country was developing a unique attitude to pop culture the Chinese were starving and eating propaganda. Japan is the cultural epicentre of east asia and has been for longer than you've been alive, china had no internal competition so they all became weebs. The only reason the koreans aren't also cloning anime 1-1 is japanese shit was banned there for a time because they were so butthurt about being invaded.

>>718550196
retard

10 seconds into the earth segment and the Xenoblade inspirations are so on the nose that it’s kinda funny

>>718550196
Zoomers have shifted to korea and are now shifting to china, the real weebs are all millennial.

>>718550412
That's what's interesting. In no time at all the koreans have already made their own animation and comic powerhouses. In a few years the zoomers and braindead retards will leave all nip stuff behind to hope on the korean train. The k-pop crap isn't an accident. What this guy said really.>>718550484

>>718550393
>9070XT
>Select maximum graphics preset
>look inside
>50% resolution scale, 600P

>>718550412
>The only reason the koreans aren't also cloning anime
They all sit around reading cuck manwha drama on their phones instead.
>>718550484
>>718550529
Chiname is a flash in the pan, they spend billions like epic game store on making you think it's an actual competitor. They've got no legs.

No big surprise this all just turned out to be "china will grow larger" propaganda. That explains why you were so insistent the marvel anime game wasn't anime.

>>718550535
That's rough. I'm on ps5 and it's stuttering. I thought that was just a pc thing but nope here we are now. It doesn't help that it's somewhat blurry on my 4k panel

>>718550642
I'm this guy>>718550529 You can't ignore reality and tell me that all media is going korean. This current phase of "Yall zoomers love anime!" will be gone in a flash like the 2000s. I don't care for china, and I denounce mao, and I can tell you things are changing fast. It's why the nips are trying to speedrun western values as to not lose that foothold.

>Forge runs faster than your base speed but slower than your sprint speed
Is this game trying to piss me off?

>>718550393
>plays worse
>looks barely different and worse
>takes longer to develop
>costs more
Everyone fucking loses with this shitty engine

Yeah I give up this game is not appealing to me at all. I’ll wait for them to drop it for free on EGS like the first one. No way is this worth $70

>>718549994
Same thing happened to me.
And there's also this shit.

>>718550529
Korea hasn't become a powerhouse in manga or anime (their webtoon industry is currently collapsing) and its struggling to find relevance in the game industry but it has massive influence with its films, dramas, music and fashion among zoomers, especially women. zoomer boys didn't grow up anywhere near the golden age of Japanese media so they have no real attachment to it, to them its all the same shit.

To millenials who are still jerking off to japanese ps2 games and shit like mamoru oshii, satoshi kon and gainax nobody will ever replace japan.

>>718550904
I had no trouble just sprinting, I'm pretty sure you just sort of drag him behind you

>>718551296
oh.. fuck.

>>718550653
It's loading stutter not shader stutter, UE4 is known to be a piece of crap engine to do open world games with for this and FFVII Rebirth has it too.

>>718551454
It's unreal 5

>>718551536
man they will look back on UE5 and wonder just what the fuck happened.

2 whole generations of games will be completely fucking Ruint by this shit.

>>718551628
Well if UE5 is a sign of things to come then UE6 will probably be even worse with 10x Pajeet coding and AI coding.

>>718551146
I find some elements appealing but I'm certainly not paying that much for it. I'll be waiting for it to hit 50% off at least.

>>718551714
ya know..

I rarely pray for things from God, I usually just thank him for the health I have and my life being stable, poor but stable.

but I pray I could be transported to a world without those people, and others too, I'll remain poor and in similar states.. but just please god let me be free of them.

silly but I do.

>>718551536
Well they didn't fucking fix it in 5 anyways. Presumably this is why the game recommends a fucking i7-12700 though because it can easily run 150fps and maybe even hit the 200fps cap on max settings on a 12400 otherwise.

>>718551835
its ok canada bro, you can just move countries. The indians in other anglo countries aren't that bad since they aren't all fresh off the boat.

>>718527718
People bought DxM because they haven't released AC6 back then.
It's either innovate, or live as another "AC Clone" on the market.
It doesn't matter if DxM precedes AC6. The inferior / less known would be seen as a copy of the more popular one.

>>718552392
There aren't enough to be considered a "ac clone" I think they really screwed up in changing to gay iron man suits

Only thing I liked was that I got to make a kinda cute girl

>>718552392
being a "souls clone" never harmed anyone. I dont see why being an AC clone is bad when you're the only other competitor and they release AC games once in a blue moon. If anything the success of AC6 should have been a boon for DxM.

Didnt bother to make a girl, you can have your tits out in the suit right? Jiggle physics?

>40gb demo
eew

>>718552392
I'm playing it with my bro and upon landing on the planet, the first thing he tells me is that it looks like a knockoff xenoblade x. I'd argue that's a little worse. Moreso since the target platform is the switch going off the first game.

>>718551802
Same, they kinda fucked themselves by making a game reminding me of Xenoblade X, except Xenoblade X has way more interesting open world.

Man there are some serious xenoblade chronicles x vibes going on here. Maybe its the character creator, or when you get to the planet? I feel like there was some involvement in here but I can't put my finger on it. Or maybe I'm making connections where there are none.

>>718553475
The shading too, how the character looks really reminiscent of Xenoblade X remaster.

>>718553425
XBX's world is dogshit with nothing in it so no, at least this game has some modicum of dynamic events and has the decency of giving you access to flight from the get go unlike that unfinished piece of trash

>>718551802
dude i was doing this at the boss lmao, you awkwardly try to hit the back from the groud and dash up 5 feet on each swing and fallback down and just do it for the whole combo lmao I don't even know if I was hitting the crystal on his back or just his shins and torso the whole time

How are you bros feeling the game? I was honestly more excited for it before the demo dropped.

>>718539279
Soloing Zeruchroar was my favorite thing to do in daemon x machina. I thought it was a super fun boss.

>>718553924
im enjoyin the demo so far but i was skeptical about the game to begin with
whats there is fun but i really dont get why this is 70 bucks, i do not at all feel like its worth the price tag in the slightest

>>718540359
Heads were separate from torsos.

>>718554164
I can agree. I was hoping it'd be a better game than the first. Not a full genre change. It's a strange choice man. I'll probably still pick it up on a good sale though.

>>718553924
Feeling a 4/10. Single A slop game but could be fun for $20.

>>718554367
Yeah, wasn't the first one $40 on release? Much more reasonable although the first one did feel like a much smaller game. I've got the feeling this one is not gonna do well

>>718554506
It was 60.

>>718554558
wow wtf why did I buy that

>>718554558
I was able to get that one on a month after launch for 40$ on switch. I'll probably wait the same for this one. If rune factory dropped in price right away this one will even faster going off how niche mecha is in the first place. Going all gay iron man on people will either work and bring in the normie buck or turn the few mecha fags away.

>Tutorial
>Tutorial, but this time in the desert
>10 minute walk n talk sequence
>Then another cutscene re-explaining what you just saw
Please let this not be inductive of the whole game.

>You have to travel to mission location
Fuck this. Fucking time padding open world bullshit.

>>718532383
Well, glad to see I wasn't the only one that did this lol. Genuinely was upset, esp since I had to go back and get the optimal gear to fight him better.

Seriously a missed opportunity to give you some kinda reward for beating him. Hopefully that changes in the full release but not really expecting it.

>power suits
Why

>>718556201
So they can take off the helmet in the cutscenes and let the lowest common denominator audience "connect" with characters who have faces.
Same reason this is an open world material gathering crafting game too.

>can use bows and enemies drop more loot when you kill them with it
>can visually hide all your armor except your jetboots
>you can ride horses and drive trucks around instead of just running and flying

This is a weird fucking game

>>718556287
The first game was already a looter piece of shit with constant meatbag presence.

Mecha forever to be cursed with dogshit games.

>>718556296
First thing I did on earth was use the scanner turn around and see some horses that I hopped on, got a kek out of me for sure. Stopped before I got a bow tho

>>718548878
This is me. I played the demo and I love it.

Frankly, it's way better than the first game. Completely blows it out of the water. I don't even hate all the characters yet. I wont be getting it day one but I will probably go for an early sale.

I also feel like it's gonna do better, and that's considering the first game got a sales bump for having no competition. A pretty alright power armor looter "halo if the armor was cooler" game has more appeal than armored core but shitty.

>>718554750
Love or hate AC6, but this shit, once again, truly makes me appreciate FROM's minimalist storytelling.
>Wake the dog up.
Fucking kino opening.

>>718525064 (OP)
Performance on deck?

>>718531764
Why is /v/ filled with retards who post wrong shit all the time?

>>718557360
ACVI is not minimalist lmao

>>718557418
>thinks download size = install size
>takes a photo of his screen
Checks out.

>>718557418
actual retard

>>718557472
compared to this shit it certainly is

>>718557360
Multiple cutscenes and exposition dumps is not what anyone should call minimalist.

God, what does it take for a guy to get some actual fucking mecha games?

>>718558038
>>718556508
Time travel to 2005

The fusion attacks seem cool

>>718558038
There's more mech games on steam right now than there were for the previous ten years.

>play demo
>anytime the PC says their name, they just stare blankly
Just give them a canon you name you twits...

>everyone hates us because we are spacemen
>we are just passive aggressive assholes back at them

I like when playable characters do this

>>718553475
No I had that thought too.
The initial run up to the city had me going "god this feels familiar."

>>718558484
I will take that shortcoming because it's still a major improvement over the protagonist being completely silent, but they should have just got a nickname or something.

>>718557373
It is fine.

>>718558452
Yeah, more variety of dogshit if anything. At least some of the Western ones are okay.

>>718558810
I didn’t even play XBX and I thought it

I didn't really like these two at the start but they are growing on me

>>718558709
Being passive aggressive is for women, I prefer open hostility.

>>718559148
I didn't like that the swearing in Forge's line was made up in the localisation.

>>718559026
There's like 3 mechwarrior clones and they're all as tank-like as the rest, so it's no big change from when MWO was pretty well the only one. It's all just more cheap tank simulators but with high cameras.

>>718557237
It’s honestly everything I wanted AC6 to be
>open world
>basically an rpg
>looting wrecks for gear
>proper sense of scale (albeit by not having proper mecha)

I played the demo for two hours, it's basically Xenoblade X with good combat. It's better than I was expecting, but the price is still way too high.

>>718528403
6PBP

I wonder how big the world is going to be. The map menu make it seem like there will be more regions since the first area is just called Desert.

>>718532383
why is it the dev's fault you are retarded?

Dolls Nest already did the not-mecha RPG formula better this year and it had actual level design. This open world shit is just boring and mindless. I'd rather go back to the original DxM.

>>718560236
The retard here is you for defending how incompetently made that encounter is.

I hope you can get good skillsets without looking like a full on abomination. I'm fine getting a little fucked up.

>>718560421
How the fuck you're even supposed to get into your suit full of edges like that?

Oh boy I can't wait to play Skip Every Cutscene: The Game 2.

>>718560904
Don't worry now all the retarded shit you don't want to listen to will be in the form of dialogue during the 10 minute walk to an open world marker

>>718559302
yeah it fucks up the joke when only toby has a audio censor

>>718533067
30fps with the occasional dip. Honestly not acceptable given the Deck can run it at 60fps. Best to buy it on pc.

Please tell me there are areas with actual enemy density. The world isn't covered with roaming bands of 2-3 retards, is it?

>>718560245
how is doll's nest? are the levels really blameesque. also how much jank?

Wasn't paying attention to this at all because I thought the first DxM was super boring despite being desperate for mech games.
Demo was surprisingly pretty fun besides all the dialogue being way too slow paced while having absolutely nothing to say. Sad that we're just in a powersuit now though. Might get it on sale.

>>718543310
Never listened to any AC music, but this shit sounds like Ever Kingdom trying to be Blade Runner.

>PC has a set speed
>NPCs are always either faster or slower with no inbetween
Also, the PCs complete inability to walk is an irritant.

>>718561306
I get bad stutter and drops on my deck oled. Am I missing something?

>>718561662
Levels are Demons Souls-esque. Gameplay is about as jank as 2nd gen AC.

>>718561206
No worse than it being in a boss fight where they stop taking damage to finish their conversation. At least now I get to drive a warthog.
>>718561827
>>718550904
Do people care about this in games where they just teleport to you anyway? It doesn't matter how fast they walk if they just instantly appear when needed.

>>718543709
Not aware of that one, what's it like!

>>718560421
>becoming Jyggalag

>>718525064 (OP)
Armored Core 6 killed the "mecha community".
From Software was a mistake.

>>718563832
Yeah, remember all the mech games that were coming out before 6? Like... Left Alive, I guess.

>>718552762
the voice options kind of forced me to make a certain type though.

>find world boss
>entire field is just filled with player corpses

>>718564250
>5 copy paste bodies
Woah, so atmospheric....le environmental storytelling....

>attack a base and capture it
>go down to the bottom and find a bunch of supply crates
>there's a path to go down even further
>at the bottom is a gate I cant get past
>can see an arena inside that is just filled entirely with fire bursts going off like it's a wrestlemania intro

I want to know what the fuck is going to happen in there

So is this just Xenoblade X but shit?

>>718564702
Yes, it's just xenoblade x.

I wasn't sure about the game until I got to the end of the demo and saw how dumb it's going to get

https://youtu.be/tM66DTYXwWo?t=54

>>718550535
>5600 XT
>Let it decide the settings which put it on the max
>Nervous, but curious
>Game runs fine and runs at 144 most of the time
Genuinely confused how my mid tier PC from 2020 is able to run it and others are having issues.

>>718565689
I eventually forced it to 100% and switched to 4K. Game ran at like 60 and dropped to 2fps when I fought the flying guys at the very first second you get control in the desert. One of the worst frame drops I've ever had in a video game.

>>718536317
AC6s soundtrack shits all over every other soundtrack in the series

>>718542379
ok zoomer

>>718567492
Zoom Zoom

>Competitor
>For any AC
Lol, Lmao, kek even.

played on ps5 and the stuttering seems to be as bad as it is on PC, overall didn't like the feel of the game at all and cancelled my LE preorder from months ago. I might pick it up down the line but only after they make a ton of changes

Is the card game not accessible in the demo?

>>718564250
Is there even anything that he drops? I killed him and got like 3 healing capsules lol.

>>718570668
nope lol.

>>718569459
I'm so confused by this game's optimization. It works flawlessly on my computer but a PS5 which is supposed to be better is stuttering?

>>718535234
I finished it. It was trash. The mecha gameplay felt good, but it seems like they're ditching the only positive aspect of the game.

>>718525064 (OP)
uninstalled as soon as I saw that it's open world. Damn shame

>>718535234
the gameplay was fun enough, but everything else was mid

Im assuming that there are at least two other regions since there are guards blocking two exits in the town.

>>718570668
>>718570728
bosses in dxm generally dont drop anything but schematics for you to grind their weapon for.

But og gunfort was not that big of a wall. the train was.

Performance aside, are people really disliking the game? I don't have a lot of complaints except the price tag but I've already put 10 hours in the demo without thinking about it.

>>718572850
It's open world, sauceless, boring, slop.

Congrats you have the souplike brain that the devs want for this kind of game.

>>718572002
Desert, Forest, Mountains, The Garden, Random Dungeon, Ice (DLC?), Lab (DLC?)

Here is your Ice Area theme
https://o.uguu.se/tnaDiMzS.mp3

>fuse with alien dna to become a nightmarish monster
>to gain the power to fire a grappling hook, spin around while blindly firing guns, do a really big kick, or just swing your bazooka as a melee weapon

>>718573191
ice is probably just the icecream shop.

>>718573319
I dunno shooting lasers out of your eyes is pretty cool too.

>>718573360
Oh, yeah, that makes way more sense. Lab is also probably just the base's lab.

Honestly it feels good, open world mecha hasnt been done and the gameplay loop of fighting enemies and doing quests to get parts and blueprints isnt a bad incentive for you to explore the map. Also the story and the cutscenes is higher budget than I expected. I'd play it for sure.

>>718573432
It does A LOT of damage. Might be cool for downed enemies or bosses.

Most of the guns seem really shitty and melee weapons seem amazing. On hard the pistol is doing like 3 damage and the beam saber is doing 70. The two handers like the minigun and the rocket launcher are the really only ones being decent.

I'm skipping the demo since I'm preordering the physical release anyways. Really liked the energy and world building of the first game, even if the gameplay was not all that and the characters mostly pretty one dimensional.

>>718573920
The pistol seems to be geared towards getting crits. Rifles and Machine guns seem fine, shotguns not so much. If the shotgun had way less spread maybe it'd be good. Look at how far these fucking pellets are going, at the range you'd actually hit them you'd probably be better off just using a melee.

>>718574081
>Crit range is at 14-22
>Miss 80% of the pellets at that range
What a bizarre decision

>>718558404
>Fuck up your body to learn....
>...how to throw your swords
Wut

>>718558038
Mecha fans all want a bit of everything and once you realize nothing truly defines a mecha game besides robots being in it you'll reach nirvana.

>>718574174
Mastery looks like it tightens the spread and there are mods that give you wider crit windows so it's probably a weapon you have to invest heavily in.

maybe I'm missing something but this thing feels like shit to play
I would not pay $70 for this level of jank

>>718551802
why this game's combat can't fucking decide if it wants to be aerial focused or ground focused? it ends up doing both terribly. Just fucking pick one. Mecha game devs are so fucking retarded.

>>718537626
Vanishing
Lament of the Howling Age
Why Don't You Come Down and it's remix
Vulture
In A Day
Strive
Conservation
Mecha Dinosaur and Scavengers
Stain and it's remix
Scientist
V for Two
Dirty Worker
Smasher
HIGH FEVER (sweetest thing)
Demolition
Forgive an Angel
Peek a Boo
The Mother Will Comes Again
Rusting Steel
On the Land of Barking Smell
Device
Vendetta
The Insurance Money remix
The 5 Point Five remix
The 9 remix
Day After Day
The Cosmos remix
Every faction theme

>all the male villains are wearing 10 layers of armor
>the only female villain that even bothers to wear a suit is an old lady

>>718525064 (OP)
Part of me wants to like this more, but am I crazy for thinking movement feels weightless and unsatisfying? That flight sequence in the vents felt particularly bad to play

Marvelous managed to figure out how to make a game with crossplay yet somehow bamco still cant do it for anything except tekken.

How long is this demo? I finished first quest, but I'd like to keep playing before I get locked out or something.

>>718577210
yeah it's as bad if not worse than DxM, ESPECIALLY flight movement.

>>718577401
There is 3 main story missions, Once you start the mission to rescue Raven and go talk to some guys out in the world waiting for you then the demo PV plays, but you can just load your save back up and go back into the open world.

>>718577401
When you finish the demo it just loads you back in right before where the demo ends so you can go around and do the rest of the side quests and collect shit.

>>718577516
>>718577534
Thanks anons. That sounds great.

don't know if this was intended behavior from the devs but in every combat I've just started jumping non stop like a quake addict. Running is too slow, sprinting sucks and being airborne is the absolute worst in every aspect, and stamina drains way too quickly. Jumping lets me dodge consistently while being fast and letting the melee weapons home in quickly.

How's the performance on the switch 2?

>>718577412
They got rid of that thing where you get weirdly pulled down if you get too close to the ground at least. Like there was a five meter forced landing range.

Dual knuckles are my favorite weapon type so far. They have crazy forward thrust and you get a combo when you use two of them instead of doing one awkward attack over and over. And you can charge both of them up at the same time for huge attacks

This is a rough demo. AC6 is the standard now, you have to be at that level of better.

>>718579852
I don't even want mecha games to copy AC6 wholesale because then you get garbage like this https://youtu.be/yLEaOdIBc38?si=l9t6CGLkdny8WzAa

I just want them to make mecha games that DON'T FUCKING SUCK SHIT TO CONTROL.

I want a mecha game that controls more like fucking Monster Hunter Rise or Ultrakill. Just give me anything else.

>>718525064 (OP)
>no denuvo
>no buy
:^)

>>718528403
BASED. The demo is already better than AC6.

>>718573920
if it's like the first game bazookas and melee are the way to go.

>>718580003
It’s a really hard genre to do, because everyone has a different conception of what a mech should feel like to control.

This just feels like Xenoblade X. Doesn’t feel heavy enough and at the same time light enough.

>>718581018
I'm gonna throw my two cents because every fucking mecha retard does and I'm one too

Just make them control like humans/humanoids and give them super agility and boosters. That's it. You made a fucking humanoid robot why are you not making it fight like a humanoid. It's that simple. They either make them attack helicopters, fighter jets, tanks or hovertanks. WHY? None of these make use of the humanoid body to make cool and practical fights. We have years of media with humans with super powers and agility, and even humans with robot parts and boosters doing super cool shit and they can't figure it out. We have tons of games with superhumans/humanoids that fight with agility, heavy weapons and cool dodges and they can't fucking figure it out. Don't make them slow. Don't give them permaflight. Make them use their god damn bodies and a variety of weapons we have made in human history in cool ways.

People are entranced by evangelion and everyone acts like they have no idea why the action in EVA is really good when its as simple as "the robots are tokusatsu/ultraman so their fights look really cool". Oh my fucking god why is everyone so fucking stupid.

>>718581769
every single time I've seen media come out where the mechs actually fight with good coreography, people love it. AND YET. Mecha game devs never get the fucking message.

how's the demo run on sw2?

>>718581989
The very nature of gameplay means that we cannot have well choreographed fights within gameplay. That stuff has to be saved for within cutscenes and if you really wanted it in "gameplay" then you just end up with a series of QTEs. The only way you can kind of do it is if its a turn based game, such as Front Mission or SRW, but eventually you get sick of watching the samish animations play out over and over.

>>718581989
How in the fuck can you have "good fight choreography" in an action game?

I'm just happy when it uses mecha theming to give you gameplay mechanics you don't normally get as joe gunman. Having multiple weapons at once, thrusters, transformation, whatever. So long as I'm not just two guns and a healthbar. I really like it when they include flares/missile systems as well. Johnny farcry never had to deal with that.

DxM still has flying and lockon missiles, good enough for me.

>>718525064 (OP)
I liked it
Plays much better than the first game
Only skimmed the demo though so can fully enjoy the game when it's out

>>718582686
>Moving the goalposts
What a dishonest motherfucker you are

>>718581769
Why play a mech game if it just plays like some completely generic 3rd person action game and the supposed giant robot has no distinguishing features over playing some regular dude? That's boring and pointless, I don't care about playing a regular dude in a robot skin, or rather if I want to play a standard 3rd person action game, then I will go play a standard 3rd person action game instead.

>>718564702
>Xenoblade X but with Armored Core combat instead of the tab target mmo combat
Holy ffffffucccckkkkk

>>718583453
But this thread is very vocal about Armored Core playing like garbage?

>>718583237
To pilot a mech duh, if I wanted to play DMC I'd just play DMC.

>>718581018
XBX's problem is that nothing about the DOLLs' movement felt satisfying in terms of animation as it was not conveyed at all through proper momentum and keyframing, the combat had an even worse issue of lacking any sort of hitstop, momentum or even basic stuff like screen shakes, stuff that should have felt heavy was just slow and everything else...was also slow and weightless.
To be honest that was also the least of its issue given how everything else was actual dogshit AND the game was also blatantly unfinished.

>>718583535
So? I don't care what the thread thinks. I only posted a few hours ago to check if they kept the body horror upgrades

>>718582269
>>718582389
I understand what you mean and it might have just been me wording it terribly, but it's mostly just making the player character not look like an A-posing model firing guns like a lot of mecha games do. Armored Core 6 AT LEAST also controls well.

some of it is good animation work but a lot can just be "don't make the player character feel sluggish" and have it's movements have weight, gravity AND momentum. I've seen a lot of mecha nerds say they like games with "weight" when in fact they just mean slower pace. Weight doesn't mean a game needs to be slow it just needs to feel impactful.

I mentioned monhun and that's a very good example of impactul, weighty movement that's still quite fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Koj_LM3D3U
Helldivers 2 is also another game that has good weight, momentum and gameplay all at once.
Pic related is Nioh. I hate dark souls but Nioh has fast, weighty combat that is extremely stylish and satisfying to pull off when all the cylinders are firing. Mecha games rarely feel this satisfying.

Imagine taking something like those, but adding in cool explosive weapons, boosters, verticality, combinations of weapons and equipment, and more?

>>718583237
Because it COULD be a 3rd person action game that HAS distinguishing features over playing some regular dude because the mech can have boosters and equipment and cool weapons. Right now I feel like mecha games get stuck into some weird 4th place that is both worse than playing a good vehicle and a generic 3rd person man and it feels extremely unsatisfying.

>>718583538
How is Dante wearing gauntlets made of demons any different from the .webm you posted, you faggot hypocrite?

>>718583110
There are more than two other people on 4chan. I don't really get what that other guy is on about.
>>718583237
Are there any mech games that fit this description and don't have thrusters or shields or beam rifles or whatever? Like what is a game that's about mechs and also has no mech gameplay elements?

>>718583828
>Are there any mech games that fit this description and don't have thrusters or shields or beam rifles or whatever?
Mechwarrior

>>718583715
>he's never watched GGG
for shame.

>>718583704
So you want a giant robot game where the giant robot plays like a human martial artist or anime swordman and not like a giant robot? Do you realize how contradictory it sounds? It's "put all my groceries on a single bag but make it weight less" nonsense.

Why don't you just play a game with a martial artist or anime swordman?

>>718583936
Don't evade the question.
Now your webm shows a humanoid machine doing a fancy martial arts finisher, which is something you would get from any action media, be videogame, anime or movie, depicting human martial artist.

>>718583965
because I want to play a game with a martial artist or anime swordsman that is also a cool robot that does even cooler shit than both of those and can also use a variety of mech weapons and maybe I can also customize it?

>>718584101
>a martial artist or anime swordsman that is also a cool robot
Which is why you will never get it: it's inherently contradictory. A giant machine has no business jumping and prancing around like Naruto.

>>718584086
>those webms
>martial arts
What martial art allows you to glide at high speeds across the ground with a thruster from your stealth plane wings or combine with vehicles?

>>718583569
WTF am I reading
>hit stop, momentum and screen shake in a RPG

>>718528403
>Armored Snore 6

>>718570984
>PS5 which is supposed to be better
where did you get that

>>718584278
then what are the benefits of making it a humanoid machine if you're completely disregarding what could make a humanoid machine look cool instead of john mcthirdperson shooter man that can also fly?

>>718584340
Xenoblade 2 and 3 have hitstop and screenshake and it makes the combat in those way more satisfying.
it's still MMO-Like combat with no momentum but it doesn't feel dull

>>718570984
>ps5
>better than pc

I think one of the more important things for games with mechs that I don't think is utilized enough is just sound. You are piloting a giant robot, just moving around you should be hearing a bunch of things coming from the robot or what effect it is having on the environment around it.

Game is mad fun, always wanted an action open world mech game and cant wait for the full game so I can check out the heavy mech powerup and more fusion powers, hopefully theres some cool endgame missions or world bosses worth doing coop with, its quite impressive that they put crossplay in this thing.

Not surprised that nu-/v/ in 2025 would ignore the game and rather shitpost about a game they never played because of their pajeet shit tier PCs and complain that its a mech suit rather than a mech (its simply an aesthetic), I would totally kill for an iron man game made by the just cause devs.

>>718584296
>What martial art allows you to glide at high speeds across the ground
Most shonen attacks have that kind of "gliding fast around the ground to hit the target"
>with a thruster from your stealth plane wings or combine with vehicles?}
Which make no difference. Those combinations sequences with vehicles boil down to piece of armor for a (very humanoid) base mecha, which is no different from a regular human superhero wearing armor.

>>718563832
>the "mecha community"
The community was never dead you bumbling retard it's amazing how 6 really mind broke some of you retards to an insane degree regardless if it's just ironic shitposting
>>718535234
No DxM 1 is just jank beyond measure with a lot of shitty systems in place especially with how they do weapons

>>718584405
>then what are the benefits of making it a humanoid machine if you're completely disregarding what could make a humanoid machine look cool instead of john mcthirdperson shooter man that can also fly?
Shouldn't we be asking that to you? What's the point in making them thin, agile and acrobatic when a human would suffice?
Half of the point of mechs is to be a heavy duty, armored battle vehicle with extreme weaponry that a tank or ship couldn't handle.

>>718584340
>ARPGs shouldn't have the very basics of good animation because...BECAUSE THEY JUST SHOULDN'T OKAY?

>>718584609
So what you're saying is that you don't want a mech game, you want a game with a human doing back flips and no mechanics whatsoever.

>>718584779
No, what I'm saying is that you're a moron who claims to want a game that takes advantage of your player character being a machine... only to post .webms of machines doing things that a fantasy martial artist / gunfighter already does.

Why bother making a mecha to just do kicks when you can make your game about Li the Karate Master, who will throw the same kicks but won't need an extravagant design?

>>718584718
>What's the point in making them thin, agile and acrobatic when a human would suffice?
1. It looks cool
2. Agility. Being fast in combat in ways most vehicles can't be is extremely useful. Mecha should be able to jump where tanks cannot. Dodge where helicopters cannot. And go into spaces fighter jets can't. If you don't combine and understand the benefits of being able to do all of those then just make a hover tank or whatever.
3. Versatility. Being able to use a variety of weapons lets it tackle a variety of objectives and scenarios. It can both carry a cool sword and an anti tank rocket launcher.
4. It's still an armored vehicle that can take way more hits than a person and have a shitload of mechanical and computer functions that a person can't.
5. It looks cool.
6. I didn't say they need to be thin, just not stupidly slow that it makes them useless. If they exchange some mobility for better, larger armor, it's still good enough. Just don't make them a giant, stupid target. A large, heavy mech would be able to sprint at you and deal a billion tons of energy in a single impact unlike a lighter mech. Think of the benefits of each form!

>>718525064 (OP)
>demo
I'll give it a shot

>>718585080
>Versatility
>While posting two robots using less gear than a regular infantrymen on a science fiction setting
See? this is what I mean.

>>718585402
you DENSE motherfucker.

>>718581769
You're completely correct but AC faggots will never see the light. They'll just keep bitching about (for example) how games don't have limited turning speeds even though it feels like complete shit and also makes no fucking sense when the entire point of "mecha" is that they're articulated. But people twist themselves into rhetorical knots with stupid reasons for why a mech should aim with its feet rather than its arms.

>>718585402
most mechs in stuff like mechwarrior and even most mech games carry like 2-3 weapons or weapon groups at most.

>>718585502
Limited turn speed makes sense because machines have weight to begin with, a lightweight should not move or turn around as fast as a lightweight

>>718584609
>is no different from a regular human superhero wearing armor
Armored heroes are frequently mecha adjacent. If they get their powers from the armor then it's even more strong.
>>718584954
I mean isn't it obvious? Because then you are also a mech. It's not like you have to be slow shit machine with gajillion guns. You could also do ninja mecha or kung fu mecha or whatever else. It's all out there and it's not like it's not mecha just cause.
>>718585502
If it's any consolation many of the fans anywhere else but here have gotten over that. Armored cores spinning around like crazy in cutscenes and then wafting about in the air struggling to turn around in gameplay has always been odd.

>>718585461
That's rich coming from a Muv-Luv fan
>Teenagers who waste a lot of time and energy on romantic shenanigans somehow are able to hold the line against an alien race so broken it looks like something out of Warhammer 40k or Doctor Who and we're supposed to suspend your disbelief hard enough for that.

>>718549345
As he said, you "slop" posters are drooling retards.

>>718585502
>>718585594
mecha fans gaslit themselves into thinking dogshit controls = weight and muh skill when in fact its just that the average mecha game dev couldn't design a good control system to save their lives.
War thunder has had decoupled turning speed from actual camera control for ages and it feels great while Gundam Battle Operations 2 makes me want to kill myself. It's literally just cope. You could have all the benefits of good, weighty controls associated with vehicles but also the agility and versatility of a humanoid character and yet the general response is "but what if it sucked tho?"
Like why the fuck would you not be able to look somewhere different than where your torso is facing when you have a HEAD???

>>718585815
I don't care about the story of muv luv but wasnt it something like the protagonist went back in time and just speedran the endgame?

>>718585594
It makes no sense because mecha is specifically articulated humanoid robots. When you want to turn around, do you slowly shuffle your feet to the side until you're facing the other way? No, of course you don't. Because despite your simian brain I'm assuming you're also human-shaped. You lead with your head and you pivot on one foot. And you can certainly point a gun in a direction different from the one you're facing. So why do you think it makes any kind of sense for a humanoid robot to move differently?

mechwarrior FAGGOTS getting their shit kicked in today huh

I can accept turning speed, but only if they add a handbrake so we can spin on a dime after moving at speed. It's clearly what they do in ACs cutscenes pretty often, too.

>>718586153
the are already turn boosters in classic AC games

>>718585080
Gundam > Anything else

yup, time to get me lawn mowed boys

>>718586230
Even though I like Gundam it's still mostly boring for the most part because the AUs and some newer series just turn them into fighter jets or helicopters too. Also muh hax

>>718525064 (OP)
Enough about the first game, is the demo any good/an improvement?

>>718586038
>It makes no sense because mecha is specifically articulated humanoid robots
Just because you have vaguely humanoid articulations and joints doesn't mean the laws of physics magically stop existing, the bigger and heavier you are the harder it is to move around, you might not like this but that's how things work unless you're in a 0G environment all the time.
An elephant does no turn around at the same speed of a cheetah even if they're both quadrupeds and share a similar skeleton, this is even more relevant to mechs since you're using torsion based joints for their parts which struggle even more with that.
Of course you can handwave all these problems away because giant mechs are fundamentally unrealistic so they're not necessarily bound to rules of physics, but don't be surprised if some people call it bullshit.

Do note that all of this has no correlation whatsoever with shit controls either, so if you wanna whine about things like old AC feeling bad due to their dogshit control scheme that has nothing to do with basic design elements like turn speed.

>>718586214
I'd prefer it tied into movement. Turn boosters just feel like being jerked around.

There's a specific movement you always see come up where they spin or use their thrusters in sweeping arcs that isn't represented by turn boosting or just turning while boosting. AC6 is unironically the closest we've come to playing like this.

>>718586579
>but don't be surprised if some people call it bullshit
Not surprised, I just don't care. If they want realism they can go tug their johnnies to warthunder or some shit.

>>718585913
>>718586414
>Wanking over shows you haven't even watched
>Whining about "muh hax" while posting fucking Gaogaigar
You're a clown. I'm glad developers and the industry as a whole ignores you and your desires.

Game's gotta be fun first and slow, methodical, chunky mechs aren't exactly fun for the average person. If they were, there would be more steel battalion clones.

>>718565689
Because it is on 50% resolution scale and 540p you stupid illiterate motherfucker

>>718587386
dudes gonna look at this shit and say "yeah this is what humanoid robots should be like" with a straight face

>>718587386
>slow, methodical, chunky mechs aren't exactly fun for the average person
But people fellates MechWarrior all the time.
Hell, Battletech itself was born because its creators loved giant robots but hated the Japanese way of making them.

>>718587534
>But people fellates MechWarrior all the time.
no they don't
mechwarrior only sells to mechwarrior nerds and no one else

when the PC gaming show got the mechwarrior 5 sponsor, they barely saw a sales spike because that game is boring as fuck

>>718587596
>no they don't
Yes they do. That's why discussion of Japanese mecha on the internet outside rare threads like this one is impossible.

>>718587534
>people
All 10 mechdads that don't have dementia yet

>>718525064 (OP)
Is the ai partner stuff still a thing or is it full solo this time?

>>718587534
>Battletech itself was born because its creators loved giant robots but hated the Japanese way of making them
Yeah that's completely made up by the fans. The shows weren't even translated back then. They saw cool japanese mecha designs and licensed them, and made up a story to put them in.

To be honest mechwarrior is basically a living dead franchise. It was already snoozing along with zero competition and now clans really didn't do so hot. It's kind of obvious they're not really capable of keeping up. DxM 1 already seemed to do better than clans, it has almost double the peak players. DxM 2 will probably do a lot better than it.

>>718528403
They also killed their own soulslikes

>>718587470
Why do you even care about mechs if this is your stance, is purely a shallow aesthetic concern at that point. Attack on titan alligns perfectly with your ideal of what mecha anime should be. If you want them to move and act like humans just make them all giant biological creatures, there's no difference.

>>718583828
Transformers Devastation. It is justified because it is fucking Transformers.

>>718584101
>>718584405
This is cheap garbage and nobody likes it, good job retard. With a competent studio giant robots actually look heavy.

>>718584405
Xenoblade 2 and 3 are based on timing to make attacks stronger, the feedbacks are much more needed than in X. There's honestly no point in making a game as complex as X even more visually noisy.

>>718584773
Xenoblade isn't an Action RPG (nor ARPG) at all

>>718588175
>shallow aesthetic concern
Sounds like a good reason to me. They only look like people cause it's cool to begin with.
>>718588476
I mean I'd call turning into a truck a pretty big mecha gameplay element. Is there a call of duty or something with a turn into a truck button?

i know it's kinda retarded to care about character creation in a game where you'll be in power armor most of the time, but it really feels like they improved it a lot from DXM.

>>718586230
>t.Only ever watch Gundam

>>718588476
>It is justified because it is fucking Transformers.
Booh!

>>718543252
>armored snore till 6 am
epic burn, did other kinds in your kindergarden taught you?

>>718584657
It killed Verdict Day and it killed Border Break, where the fuck do those people go now if they don't want to play the joke that is AC6 PvP?

>>718586793
ACV has drift turns you stupid non-game playing retard. Probably such a stupid bitch you don't know how to quick turn in 4 either.

I liked the demo a lot but I will be busy with Super Robot Wars Y and Silent Hill F back to back along with a couple indie games I bought first day only to not play them because a couple other games I was interested on released out of nowhere the past two months so probably I will wait until the Winter Steam sale.
Maybe if the game was cheaper.

Too many games to play, too few time (and money!)

Daemon X Machina is one of the few good japanese mech games.

Earthsiege and Mechwarrior are still unmatched.

>>718589202
They're playing Mech Break right now.

>>718589202
I didn't play 5 because the mechs looked gay.
>it killed Border Break
AC6 killed a PS4 jap exclusive, you've gotta be coping hard. When next? AC6 killed your dog? Fucked your sister?

>>718586538
I thought it was pretty fun from my time with it the other day. I'll play a little more today since there's still some things I haven't done yet. It's definitely moving closer to a "normal" action RPG and away from the AC style mech game but it still retains some of that feel. Melee weapons have combos and enemies can be grabbed when stunned. Weapons now have special skills which is a positive edition imo because it just gives you more attack variety. I've only used helm splitter so far though. Definitely more ambitious in terms of scope when compared to the first game. Story is still kind of a silly mecha anime plot so far but it's really not what I'm playing it for.

>>718589584
This dude pressed Submit and was somehow proud of what he had put in that text box

>>718589921
More like I pressed my cock into your asshole and you submitted.

>>718588701
XBX is an ARPG no matter how you slice it, just because it's a dogshit MMOlite doesn't mean it's magically turn based, it's not complex at all either, in fact it's mindnumbingly simple to the point of being insultingly boring.

>>718590123
FFXII is my favourite ARPG

>>718590616
You're my favorite deputy

>>718590616
Yeah, I'd wager given you like the turd that is XBX

>>718590123
Final Fantasy VI is my favorite Action-RPG