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Anonymous No.718603207 >>718604125 >>718614831 >>718637579
Madou Monogatari (and Puyo)
Beat the new game recently, I think it's fun but have a few things to say.
>general gameplay loop is good if repetitive depending on how long the dungeons go, each chapter only having one dungeon you go back to multiple times doesn't help but it gets less bad later in the game
>some characters are unique but others are pretty obvious expies again, Fia is literally just Amitie, Will is Chronicle Lagnus but even worse since you're stuck with him the entire game, and Totto is basically Lemres but trade candy for a love of money and some shades of Sig with his body and soul being separate, but for the most part every character is fun
>Returning characters are slightly mixed too, The Banshee Trio now being pankster fairies is fine if odd, Zoh Daimaoh shows up once, is a lot more passive than expected, and then gets carted away after the fight to never be seen again. Owlbear gets a lot of screentime compared to everyone else, even if it's because they're minions of Zoh Daimaoh only a few others are merely hinted at through the help box or mail you get like Harpy, Seriri and Satan
>only 13 non-final boss enemies and most of them are Chronicle-tier recolors to match the elements, which are the exact same as how puzzle and dragons elements work, unlike it though there's barely any difference between them outside of maybe one move being elemental and only 1-2 new enemies are introduced per chapter, even extending to the returning characters sans suketoudara, so The Banshee Trio's attacks now don't make sense when the shout attacks use their names even if after chapter 4 they become normal elemental enemies. extends to the trouble box too where sometimes it'll talk about a singular Zoh Daimaoh only for it to be either a flood of elemental variants or just one elemental version
It's fun, just feels a bit small in areas like the enemies despite the japanese trailer being a year after the initial announcement.
Anonymous No.718604125 >>718605098
>>718603207 (OP)
I just want to know one (uno) thing.
Is Arle in there?
Anonymous No.718605098 >>718605626 >>718615669 >>718617918
>>718604125
Sadly no. At best i've heard theories that she's Fia's grandmother or Egard during postgame saying Fia reminds him of someone else. Though that wouldn't make sense since if this is in the future like i've heard people say during prerelease then it wouldn't make sense at all considering none of the academy staff besides Skeleton-T were in any of the old games and it'd possibly mean at least Arle and Satan but considering he seemed to try to find her in 15th on his own instead of wondering where he went implies he can cross worlds, don't think he'd just abandon his world's Hell blindly just to fuck Arle somehow made it back from Primp town and then eventually birthed Arle, also pic related from the digital artbook which doesn't really line up much with Arle at all.
Anonymous No.718605353
I would have played 123 but I can't read japanese on thr egg console version.
Anonymous No.718605626 >>718606605
>>718605098
that's sad.
i wanted to see Arle... she's my wife.
Anonymous No.718606605
>>718605626
Yeah I'll never get it either, I like the new guys but with it's toying of using the help box to have both returnees in the game and not in the game "The Dark Prince" asking for a drink from Momomo but everyone ends up liking it he mails you askign why it'd take 6 months, a "Buff Dancer" falling in love with a "Woman By the Shore" and talking about dancing, a "Tea Lover" wondering which tea to serve, Three Sisters who wonder why the youngest one is crying and gives you ripped sleeves (Banshee Trio drop item) but the youngest just dropped a gift for the others, and a "Singer" needing honey because her throat's dry but wondering why everyone seems to like it, then said Dark Prince exclaiming who gave her honey and to get some Hermit Water, then said Singer accidentally waking up multiple Zoh Daimaoh with her awful singing like how Puyo references Madou every now and then, I do wonder why they didn't fully go into a new adventure with Arle and co. (or even keep the old style of not knowing your HP/MP, the characters have speech bubbles and a lategame sidequest even has Fia exclaim how much magic she has when you're lighting fucking candles but the regular game doesn't?).
Anonymous No.718607607 >>718608428 >>718612856 >>718614172 >>718626325
How's the reception/sales outside of Japan?
Really hoping this leads to more PP/MM games getting ported to the west
Anonymous No.718608428
>>718607607
I don't keep track of sales or much western social media outside of here so maybe another anon could find it if sales are shown anywhere but considering i've barely heard anything about it aside from youtube reviews I'd probably wager it'd be maybe average, though being an extremely late switch title would probably tank sales in general (though i'd say play it on switch 2, it's rare but Tick-Tock-Tower and Grimoire Tower can have layouts that TANK the framerate to an almost unplayable degree, even during battles). somehow).
Obviously I'd never expect it to sell gangbusters, most normalfags probably don't know what the fuck a Madou Monogatari is but I hope it sold well, i think there's potential in going back to Puyo and Madou riding alongside eachother again.
Anonymous No.718610590
bump
Anonymous No.718612856 >>718613036 >>718613208
>>718607607
HNNNNNG
I want to lick Arle's legs.
Anonymous No.718613036
>>718612856
Same
Anonymous No.718613208
>>718612856
whatever nutrients goes into both the madou world and primp's foods really helps with one's legs.
Anonymous No.718614172 >>718624009
>>718607607
Give up on localizations and start learning japanese, basically nothing but mainstream shit is getting localized now and even konami started to pull out of that market.
Vidya on the JP eshop is also somehow far cheaper despite physical costing 70 bucks in yen equivalent, bananza and kirby were both 55 bucks digital.
Anonymous No.718614831
>>718603207 (OP)
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Anonymous No.718615298 >>718615459 >>718616649 >>718633340
I guess as a bump I'll dump some of the mail from the enemies you get, think after you beat a certain number of their kind.

>From All Puyos - You're always punching us!
To the blue demon, Hey you! just what do you think of us?! We've sent you some slime just to bother you! Don't ask how we're writing this without any arms or legs!

>Ghostie - I'll curse you!
To the accursed Mage, I'll curse you! How could you do this to us?! You curse bringers! To torment you, I'm sending you a fork! By the way, I've put a curse on it so you won't get rare drops!

>Skeleton T - Teaaa!
To the mage who disrespects elders, I've heard one of our brethren is at the Academy, yet you still attack us! Just who do you think we are?! Oh dear, surely our brethren would be sad if he heard of this!

>Disbeleaf - Was it a bother?
To the branch collector, Why do we have to keep getting defeated, when we're only giving you branches?! Oh, I see, you're attacking us because you want the branches! Oh well then~.

>Shadow Rabbit - Did you think I have no heart?
To the heartless Mage, Did yo think you could do whatever you wanted because monsters have no heart?! Be aware, that way of thinking will come back to bite you one day... I'll be cursing you from the shadows...

>Owlbear - What have we done?!
To the irritating Mage, I'll sue you! Treating me like a dangerous animal just because I can read miiiinds! Every time you read my mind it confuses me! To torment you, I'm sending you our claws that we cliiiiipped!

>Lucky Carrot - You're Terrible!
To the stem thief, How dare you treat us so roughly, just because we're carrots! And you humans remove our stems from our heads like they're wigs... You wouldn't want your wig taken off, would you?!

>Door Devil - I'm in the way cause I'm big?
To the trespasser, We're not there because we want to get attacked by you, you know! If they're also in the way, just destroy normal doors too! Look at this, these shards... These are our friends...
word limit reached
Anonymous No.718615459
>>718615298
That sounds like a fun mechanic.
Anonymous No.718615669 >>718616649
>>718605098
Honestly the way theyโ€™re winking at Arle without outright including her feels like theyโ€™re playing some weird long game. The โ€œFiaโ€™s grandmotherโ€ thing is such a stretch but the way Egard phrases that line isnโ€™t just throwaway-like they planted it for theorist bait. And yeah, none of the academy staff having any crossover with the old cast just makes that timeline theory shakier unless weโ€™re pulling a Dungeons & Derailed-level alt-world rubberband.

Also lol at Satan โ€œcrossing worldsโ€ like an impatient horny dimensional hobo. If he really ditched Hell just to woo Arle and then ghosted again, thatโ€™s so on brand it hurts. The artbook having that one page that people keep trying to say โ€œproves itโ€™s herโ€ is wild too-it doesn't even resemble Arle aside from the vague color palette and yet everyoneโ€™s clinging to hope like itโ€™s the last blue puyo on the board.
Anonymous No.718616649
>>718615298
Treasure Cat - To the thief
To the shy Mage, We meet a lot, meow. Do you want to talk to us that much, meow? Then I'll give you a matching treasure chest, meow. Of course, it's empty, meow. (^^) But that one is fitting for you, meow. (^^)

>Cuardian - (There's dog hair) (Covered in paw prints)
(A face? is drawn) (The dog paw prints slapped all over seem to indicate something, but you don't really understand it. Parts of the stationary are torn in places as if pressed too forcefully, conveying a feeling of anger...)

>The Banshee Trio - (There's red, yellow, and green faces all lined up) (It's too messy to read)
(A blue hat is drawn) (Something is scribbled with three different colors of ink, and even though you can't read what it says, you can tell they're angry...!)
>Zoh Daimaoh - Maximum Fury!
To the impudent Academy student, I won't forgive you, zoh, just like that old Mage did, you've ransacked my lair! I am the Great Demon King! Indeed! Great, Demon, King! Show some respect! Prepare yourselves the next time we meet!
>>718615669
I do think that Fia's story is basically done, ain't much to continue with them considering they became great mages and now I guess just have to wait to graduate. If another gets made I feel that's when the trigger is pulled on them actually bringing everyone back.
As for the satan thing, I think it's more probably just checking up on his world every once in a while, even if it probably takes a lot of magic to do so (or ecolo helps him out considering he does that shit on the regular). If primp even has a Prince of Darkness depending on if Popoi calling himself that in fever has truth in it or is just him hyping a final opponent up for Amitie and Raffine.
Anonymous No.718617918 >>718618321
>>718605098
Arle ages like shit while Witch only gets a palette swap
Anonymous No.718618321 >>718618728
>>718617918
Wish just uses magic to make herself look younger because her genes and bloodline require them to be really horny, including the spaghetti hair.
Anonymous No.718618728 >>718620093
>>718618321
Tagliolini, you fuck.
Anonymous No.718620093 >>718633210
>>718618728
Whatever type of pasta hair it won't stop her from eventual babymaking sex with someone even if it's most likely Schezo.
Anonymous No.718620114 >>718621362 >>718621723 >>718622628
Incidental sub 20 second 8 chain soon.
Anonymous No.718621362 >>718621478
>>718620114
Good job. That's about where I'm at
Anonymous No.718621478
>>718621362
If we fought satan together he'd be toast
Anonymous No.718621723
>>718620114
I should get back to practicing chains, madou took up all the time I could've done chaining until I beat it.
30th or puzzle pop port next year fucking please
Anonymous No.718622628 >>718623191 >>718623491
>>718620114
AMITIE IS SHIT! SHIT!
Anonymous No.718623191
>>718622628
dai-jou-bu~
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Anonymous No.718623403
dundundundundundundundundundundundun
Anonymous No.718623491
>>718622628
get real!!
Anonymous No.718623961 >>718624540
how hard would it be to convince EGG to let someone add a translation to the EGG Console ports of Madou
Anonymous No.718624009 >>718624486
>>718614172
Aren't they remaking and translating Tokimeki Memorial? If that can get a TL then anything can. You just have to waitfag.
Anonymous No.718624486
>>718624009
TM is a 1994 game, that makes it older than half the people posting in this shithole and more than enough to learn japanese from nothing but passive anime watching without subs and zero grammar study even if you have negative IQ.
Anonymous No.718624540
>>718623961
I'm not sure how MSX translating works but I could see it being done by someone at some point considering both the game gear and PC-98 versions have been done.
been thinking of something like that for if sega decides to make a collection game like with Sonic, compile all the games from 1-20th (maybe Chronicle but idk how you'd make a 3ds exclusive work on something like a switch even if it doesn't have any mandatory touchscreen controls) and then just ask permission from translators to use their patches. i would ask for more side content like more extensive bios on everyone like what Fever 2 and Puzzle Pop did, add some secret games like Waku Puyo Dungeon and the Nazo Puyo games, and a fuckhueg Rally mode with everyone but i don't think SEGA would put that much effort into a puzzle game collection unlike what Sonic collections get,
Anonymous No.718626084
These are 90+ year old girls
Anonymous No.718626325 >>718627325
>>718607607
Sex with Rulue while she's still fertile.
Anonymous No.718627325 >>718630906
>>718626325
She's already fully prepared to fuck Satan until she has enough kids for an entire martial arts class and she won't take anyone else.
Anonymous No.718629364
get back up
Anonymous No.718630906
>>718627325
She just wants a strong man that can keep up with her in a fight. If I can best her in a duel, I'm sure she'll agree to become my wife.
Anonymous No.718631335 >>718632124
Does Draco appear?
Anonymous No.718632124
>>718631335
You get a race of dragon people but they're not related to Draco at all, not even a mention.
Anonymous No.718633210
>>718620093
Kyaaaa!
Anonymous No.718633340 >>718634414 >>718635683
>>718615298
Can they be spared?
Anonymous No.718634414
>>718633340
No, you do befriend Skeleton-T, Suketoudara and The Banshee Trio (even if it kind of implies they wrote their mail being angry at you instead of it being from them as an enemy type) but everything else is strictly an enemy, even if it's for more just means like Zoh Daimaoh originally having his home in the first dungeon before a previous mage threw him out with everyone except the Owlbears leaving him, he's not even that excitable in this game not helped by his 15th VA giving him a more relaxed tone and he's gone right after you fight him not counting the elemental variants. and the ones you do befriend only show up sporadically, Suketoudara gets a couple showings but Skeleton-T only shows up again outside of optional quests before the final maingame dungeon trip where basically everyone appears to cheer you on, and the Banshee Trio just disappear after chapter 4 aside from more than likely being behind a small help box sidequest chain.
I was really hoping for monster taming at some point, chronicle's enemy cast was small too but you could add them to your party. here there's multiple times where it seems someone else might join but it never does and you're stuck with Fia/Leena/Eska/Will/Totto for the entire game.
Anonymous No.718635510 >>718639953
Anonymous No.718635683 >>718636687
>>718633340
I tried playing this fairly recently, finding the right emulator was a struggle until I realized mednafen could play it with minimal setup lmao
I got to the slippery floor level and realized I have no choice but to scour every single chest there and grind endlessly to buy many wall maker items, then decided to stop there since there really wasn't anywhere else to go without being roadblocked...
though, it was very adorable game
Anonymous No.718636687 >>718637129
>>718635683
I only played the genesis version of 1 and had a similar problem, though I got to Mamono but couldn't do the escape sequence because I didn't have all the spells the game wanted me to have. Thankfully the game gear versions of 2 and 3 at least are a bit better but the games can still be a little cryptic here and there. Not sure about the PC-98 versions mainly because i hate the realistic artstyle it has
Anonymous No.718637129
>>718636687
yeah the games look really appealing and simple until you get hit with the usual dungeon crawler time-wasting nonsense, but it was a different time back then so it's understandable
Anonymous No.718637579 >>718638018
>>718603207 (OP)
Oh shit, someone on /v/ actually played the new Madou.
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Anonymous No.718638018
>>718637579
I was waiting for it ever since it got announced around two years ago when we only had the concept art to go off of. Too bad no Arle and the general slowing down of Puyo and adjacent threads over those past two years plus the site getting hacked seemed to end up only having a few anons on the entire site actually give it a shot, i think it's worth a shot for people that like both series, even if it's mainly using newbies again.
Anonymous No.718639953 >>718640795
>>718635510
I wish I had friends like this...
Anonymous No.718640795
>>718639953
Based friendchad!! Knowing what you want is half the battle.
Anonymous No.718642880
i like how fiery arle's friendships are, ringo's are more completely nice to one another and amitie's has a bit of both (when they're actually used and not falling back on arle/amitie/ringo being super best friends again), but arle's group is usually one step away from killing eachother due to their antics but never actually going through with it.
Anonymous No.718645119
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