Thread 719808230

Firaxis has laid off at least "dozens of workers".

>2K has confirmed that it has laid off workers at Civilization developer Firaxis Games.
>In a statement, a 2K spokesperson told Game Developer that there was a "staff reduction today at Firaxis Games," as the studio "restructures and optimizes" its development process for "adaptability, collaboration, and creativity."
>The statement doesn't disclose numbers, but sources close to the situation told Game Developer that dozens of workers have been impacted by the cuts.

https://archive.is/tDVof

>>719808230 (OP)
More layoffs please

Civ 7 really shat the bed

>most of the laid-off roles were in art and animation
Either they are cancelling upcoming leader/civ dlc or they are replacing them all with AI

>>719808230 (OP)
>>719808421
good they deserve it. absolutely disgraceful how theyve handled that series since 5

The Firaxis of today is not the Firaxis who made Alpha Centauri. Close the whole studio down for all I care.

>>719808230 (OP)
And nothing of value was lost, they haven't made a good game in 15 years

BUT THE SHILLS TOLD ME CIV VII WAS DOING AMAZING ON CONSOLE AND THE ABYSMAL STEAM PERFORMANCE WAS JUST AN OUTLIER???? WHY IS THIS HAPPENING????

>>719808585
Firaxis has always had fucking wild turnover. Civ 1/2/3/4/6 all had different lead devs and almost entirely different dev teams with their own visions.

>>719808638
>he hates Xcom
faggot

>>719808752
Forgot 5.

>>719808560
Replacing them with AI. Who needs soul when the suits need another bonus?

>>719808230 (OP)
They are not making XCOM 3 so they could get shut down for all i care.

>>719808230 (OP)
That's not enough.
Execute them.
Shut it off.
Burn it down.

>make ipad game
>dick around on the ipad release

>>719808752
They wouldn't even be capable of making something one one hundredth as great as SMAC with the team that made Civ 5, let alone the tards that shat out 7.

Seriously, how did the studio that convinced fucking 2k of all people to make the XCOM reboots during peak CoD years end up reduced to the sad sack of shit it is today?

Someone should tell these fucks they are going through a 'crisis' that will lead to a 'job transition'

>hold the entire turn based strategy market on PC with xcom/xcom 2
>release a shitty spinoff that everyone hates
>release a shitty mahvel game with dollar store designs
>blame it on the market
>die
how can they be so incompetent? A fucking terror from the deep expansion/spinoff with 80% reused assets would have been incredibly successful

>>719809154
they stuck with hexes
they made people who barely did anything in history world leaders

>>719809154
If we assume that EU was a direct result of the backlash to the TPS XCOM trailer then it took them less than 3 years to make the game. Unless they literally made no mistakes during development and had like 2 months of pre-production, the blueprint must have been in a desk drawer somewhere for years. But that is literally what happens if know, from the pitch meeting, exactly what the game is that you want to make. Any somewhat competent AAA team can produce a big game in 2-3 years. But devs rather spend 10 years trying to reinvent the wheel than make an iterative sequel.

>>719809693
spin off was okay, it gave you alien squadmates and new breach mechanic
Xcom 3 was never going to be underwater shit, Jake was working on 3rd game before getting sidelined to do Marvel game and he said it had nothing to do with it

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING? I'M BEWILDERED.

>>719809989
Ayoo Hairy Tubwoman is a mongol haaaa

>>719810056
>>719809989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZx9XHdD5m4
the ad for your viewing pleasure

>>719808929
Sid Meier finally retired and stopped randomly showing up at the office since around 2020.

>>719808872
This. The funny green line must go up faster and faster

>it really was the civ-killer
APOLOGIZE.

>>719808230 (OP)
>dozens
Only dozens? They need to fire EVERYONE involved with Civ 7.

>>719811740
I'm pretty sure huge chunk of people involved with Civ 7 were temporary contract workers and outsourced pajeets anyways.

Good. Civ 7 sucked ass.

>>719811087
Civ 7 was the civ killer.
No one plays Humankind.

>>719808230 (OP)
CHEERS!
Shouldn't have put harriet nigman in their latest game KEKYPOW!!!!!

>>719811087
In a sense Firaxis copied worst mechanic ever invented for Civ-like vidya

>>719808230 (OP)
all of them need to be fired for producing pile of shit which is civ7 and blacklisted from game dev. thats how failed humankind devs ened up pozzing civ7 in the first place.

>>719808753
Nu-Com Zoomer Unknown is dumbed down garbage for consolefags and 2 is even worse
Try playing a real XCOM game

>>719812108
He's implying that Humankind coaxed Firaxis into copying it

>>719809989
>nigger in a lamellar byzantine armor
disgusting display of racism and crzed hatred towards whites and foundations of european culture

>>719808230 (OP)
Can you build a sequel to stand the test of time?

>>719809989
We.

>>719812694
Is Civ6 worth playing? Might be autistic but the leader designs ruined the whole experience for me and I couldn't play it for more than an hour kek
Is it worth it to fight through that?

>>719815724
Some anons swear by it but by and large, people still concentrate on runs from 4 and 5

>>719815724
I like it. More than V.
You can always grab the anthology edition for like 10€ from Eneba.

>>719816070
6 is by far the most popular and played Civ game, due to it being the true babby's first civ to normalfags and casuals. But true, enthusiasts tend to favor 4 or 5, mostly depending if they consider stacks of doom or carpets of doom the lesser evil.

The only sad news here is that they are not all fired. The retards ruined my beloved franchise while the redditors were cheering. I wish every single employee will end up bankrupt with wife fucked by a black guy (although they would probably enjoy it). Fuck firaxis, Fuck the jews and Fuck women

>>719808230 (OP)
Well-deserved. They hired way more staff than Civ 5 yet the game was worse. They don't need as many staff as they have, clearly.

>>719808872
in this case AI has more soul than artists at Firaxis, it's an upgrade if anyting

Everyone mad about civ7, but I also hate they made fucking wasted time and money making a marvel slop flop instead of a new XCOM, leaving XCOM2 on a cliff hanger.

>>719812365
XCOM ufo defense falls squarely into the category of games that seem complicated at first but are actually very simple once you figure out what to do.

>>719815724
Civ 4 BtS with Caveman2Cosmos

>>719808560
>I'm open to roles in Baltimore
why would be specifically mention this? is Baltimore known as some hellscape where video game devs go to die or something?

>>719817930
Zenimax's TES Online mines are there.

>>719808230 (OP)
Serves 'em right for dragging Sid Meier's good name through the mud with their dogshit.

Not playing any of their games until they completely eliminate the lag.
Make all in-game animations instantly skippable. There should be a button to speed up animations of a turn in such a way that they ALL complete in under a second or two. UI interaction animations kept to less than 0.05s. Enemy turns planning hard-capped at 5 seconds, average should be 2 or 3 seconds even in the end game. Actually support large maps.
Seriously their games are unplayable. The amount of time you spend just waiting at them is way, way too much.
Both Civilization and XCOM have this problem (it was slightly improved in XCOM2 though).

>>719819334
>The amount of time you spend just waiting at them is way, way too much.
I have managed to read like three books while playing Civilization just for this reason alone

>>719808421
it was the jew in charge who fucked it up and then fired everyone because he cant admit hes wrong. obviously there were some woke issues but still its more about charging for week 1 DLC for fucking England than anything else that made 7 shit the bed

>>719819334
have you thought about taking you adhd meds you fucking spaz?

>>719821226
Why muddy the waters by talking about the woke at all?
Civ 7 was a really shitty game as a game first and foremost, a blatant designed for micro-transactions as a second failure and wayyyyyyyyyyy down the list of reasons to hate the game is because of black woman Mongolians.

>>719808230 (OP)
They're literally going to kill Potato at this rate.

>>719821897
its a big reason, people are clearly sick of that shit. kill tony regulars are on SNL now. it's a new world.

>>719822149
Again it's not for Civ that has far more glaring issues.
It's just an unnecessary and weak point to bring up when something has infinitely more glaring flaws.

Also going from an actual popular show, that's shit, to SNL, that's shit, is a downgrade.

>>719808560
>work for Firaxis for 14 years
>dumped on a Thursday morning like garbage

And people wonder why nobody wants to work in AAA vidya anymore.

>>719821994
It's a mercy to put him down like a dog. The only thing he knows how to do now is shit post generic lefty takes on twitter and shill on his declining youtube channel. He can't survive on his own...it's a mercy really

>>719808230 (OP)
maybe if Civ VI and VII weren't shit.

Maybe they can hire people who can design a fucking UI

Go woke go broke

>>719824941
Haven't played it.
What's wrong with it?

>>719824941
If I had synesthesia, this UI design would feel like the color brown.

It just oozes 'edutainment' and is completely devoid of any personality or character.

>>719825417
Are there any quality twitter posts from the laid off devs trying to tell off the chuds, like with the Saints Row reboot? Would be too funny.

>>719821372
>nah this game is fine you just need to take medication to be able to enjoy it

>>719808560
>i have 15 years of art xp
doesnt show in your work homes

>>719824941
>+30% production towards single wonder
What a lazy bonus

>>719825778
Look at it
And look at Charlemagne of the fucking Incas as well, what a great idea Civ switching was

>>719812365
Neat.
Is this game actually enjoyable or is it too unfinished/broken/janky?
Interesting how much they pushed it on an isometric engine.

>>719825778
It's not really fair to say it was designed first and foremost for controllers, because it's bad even for console players. They made a UI for a PC game and whenever they ran into a controller roadblock - like displaying info while hovering over something with a mouse - they decided the best course of action was to not display info at all, across all platforms. It's also generally amateurish across the board (try and read the Terrace Farm description in that image) and the slightly transparant grey/blue look gets old to look at really fast.

>>719808230 (OP)
Civ games have never been good on launch, just look at C5 in particular. Shit at launch, but became probably the best overall Civ game with all DLC and patches, especially with mods. Beyond Earth is there the bed shitting really began.

>>719817378
For me, it's Fall from Heaven 2

>>719808230 (OP)
Was Harriet Tubman really worth it?
>Inb4 game is shit anyways
I didn't even check it out because of this shit

>Xcom 3
>remastered Alpha Centauri
>Alpha Centauri 2
these are shit unoriginal ideas that would make them tons of money and they just pass over them in favor of destroying the civ brand. ok, i guess.

>>719812365
>another open X-Wound shill
color me shocked
wish you faggolas stayed in your containment thread over at /vst/

>>719826598
5's issue was that it was content barren, so it was fairly natural for expansion packs to come in and redeem it, vanilla Civ 5 was basically a foundation to be built upon. Civ 7 doesn't share the same issue, the core design of the game is broken. They're not going to get people on board unless they rebuild the foundations themselves - ditch ages, ditch civ switching

why the FUCK have they not brought this feature back

>>719827084
There is basically no one left there that worked on those titles. The guy behind the XCOM reboots left years ago.

Who knows, maybe the are fact they are laying off critical staff who were going to work on DLC content means they're cancelling future DLC content. This might be it for the game.

>>719827819
that would require some modicum of a soul to exist within the office.

>>719827825
at least Jake Solomon grabbed a few former firaxis workers on the way out, not sure what is he is working on

>>719808560
>most of the laid-off roles were in art and animation
What were they even doing? Civ 7 looks visually identical to Civ 6 from 10 years ago.

>>719824941
>Charlemagne of Inca
Yeah fuck this, this is why i won't buy this crap, Fireaxis deserves it

>>719827819
Huh didn't knew this existed but I always said it would be super funny to see Ghengis Khan in a suit and tie

What annoys me the most about the shills is that NOTHING is a sign that this game is doing poorly. Steam count players are abysmal? THEY ARE JUST ON THEM CONSOLES. Youtube and Twitch views are non-existent? Major layoffs of veteran devs 6 months in? IT'S NOTHING.

>>719808668
What happened did they release the game half baked?

>>719826805
The idea of espionage focused leader/civ is good, but Harriet Tubman? Really?

>>719824941
no one designs UI anymore its copy and paste

>>719829872
Not just half-baked, but with the core of the gameplay being that you switch civs
Isn't this cool anon

>>719829502
well theyre actual paid shills not meme shills, theyre paid to defend a piece of shit they have never played

>>719827819
bald dyke Joan D'arc is the sort of leftist garbage i can get behind

>>719829502
Part of their disorder is being wholly unable to admit fault of the thing they're supporting.

>game has poor players on Steam
They're playing on console/uPlay/whatever

>studio doesn't report sales numbers but only talks about player numbers
2m/3m/4m is a pretty impressive number of players, right? No way the game could have failed.

>company reports the game is a financial failure in their quarterly shareholder call
It just came out at the wrong time / had stiff competition / was unlucky

>studio does layoffs
The game was good. Chuds like you will never get it.

It's closer to delusion than anything.

GET WOKE GO BROKE

>>719830787
This is even funnier when you compare this to silksong.

>>719830256
ayo we wuz kangz and pharaohs and shiet! wakanda foreva

>>719828278
thats false, it looks way better than 6 imo. might be one of the few good things about the game

>>719827819
>Why yes, I do enjoy KCD2
>How could you tell?

>>719830787
How is it woke?

>>719830256
>Buganda

>>719831034
The devs are the kind of people who would make pretentious claims about enlightenment. The not so current ones anyway.

>>719830787
civ 6 is woke tho

>>719819334
UI lag needs to go yes. but i'm fine with 4x games taking a long time for CPU turns as it feels more board gamey

also, you can turn off battle animations

oh no who will make the dei slop now?

>>719830256
this could be a cool idea in a fictional setting where your civ path branches over time based on what you had and did
but obviously you can't hammer reality into the same mold

>Leaves Firaxis knowing its a sinking ship and will never make another Xcom game again
>As Firaxis burns and people get fired your Xcom game is going out soon
Kneel

>>719831034
black female Mongol khan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZx9XHdD5m4

>>719830256
why do i have to switch to mongols. why can't i just be egypt with a focus on light cavalry

>>719827903
if theyre smart theyd release Civ 8 with a full apology as a "make-up"

>>719827819
>the slow bald reveal for Hammurabi

>>719825901
hitting space bar every 5 seconds doesnt make you a intelligent

>>719808230 (OP)
go woke get fired

>>719831551
zero company
more like
zero interest

>>719808560
Good. The snes version of civ 1 is nicer looking than civ 6 and civ 7.
They have had a string of terrible games.

>>719831551
Finally a sequel to Star Wars Chess.

>>719808230 (OP)
One more from yesterday
https://insider-gaming.com/dreamhaven-lay-off-staff-2025/

>>719832667
well they got away with 1UPT even though it's a worse mechanic for AI

>>719808230 (OP)
>make marvel shit
>die
should have learned

>>719831313
that was woke dlc which helped to piss people off for civ 7

>>719833435
having strange picks for leaders isn't new. Civ 2 for example had female leaders for each civ. they just had to make some up for some civs. i just wish they were portrayed more accurately.

>>719832846
1UPT ain't really horrible mechanic but it makes fighting on narrow areas or chokepoints just completely awful

>>719808929
Vanilla civ 5 is dogwatet

>>719831313
sure is, but it was plenty playable unlike 7

>>719824941
Theyre UI dev from civ 6 is a little preoccupied at the moment

>>719833660
yeah thats why its awful, you can defeat london with longbows in 1722

>>719835131
always been a bit of jank. civ 1 had phalaxes mathematically being able to defeat battleships, etc

>>719835331
because they had a .01 percent chance which makes sense. A phalanx beating a battle ship is just the plot of Under Siege, it's totally reasonable if you have an imagination

>>719808230 (OP)
Maybe you shouldn't have made a terrible game.
Don't even fucking THINK of making an XCOM game until you've really cleaned house, Firaxis.
You fuck THAT up and it's closed doors.

>>719824941
>>719825778

>>719835765
vs

>>719835852
>>719835765
Hogwarts legcacy's menu UI was a book if that counts for anything.

>>719808230 (OP)
Don't care, the Xcom geeks are making a Star Wars game under another studio. Fuck Civ!

>>719831313
Didn't start off that way.
Still salty they ruined it. I know a lot of people hated the art style, but I really liked it (specifically Cleopatra). Kinda wished it leaned more into the Pixar style.
Yes, I know i'm in the minority on this.
5 is the better game though. Pity we can't replace the leader 3d scenes (as far as I know).

>>719835765
>>719835852
>witcher in both pictures
How the mighty fall

>>719836203
Also, I'm pissed that I didn't know about the Korean Civ MMO back in 2016.
I really liked the art for it (again, probably in the minority, but you can see the connection between it and 6 artistically)

>>719809154
>Have a unique world in a unique game with a passionate fanbase
>throw it all away to make marvel slop
I will never not be mad

>>719836203
4 is the best version ya dumb noob*

*RevolutionDCM needed

>>719836750
I like 4 as well. The intro music is the most memorable in the series. Haven't played it in fucking ages though. Too busy modding and playing 5.
Really wish I could change the graphics in 5 though. I like the terrain in 6 (and 7 I guess, though I've only seen screenshots of it) better.
Also would be cool if adjacent similar buildings connected (like in Frostpunk).
But as far as I know, you can't change the existing art or something. I might be wrong on that though. Would be happy to be wrong, in fact.
But yeah, 4 is great, I agree. Doomstacks are better than 1-army-per-tile.

>>719808230 (OP)
Good, eat shit.

>>719837007
Doomstacks can also be protected against with either doomstack of your own or having promotions on your units that counter them

>>719808230 (OP)
BUMP

GET FUCKED WOKE NIGGERS

>>719837205
yeah you actually need to think to stop doomstacks. two cannons will save your ass

doomstacks are not fun or appropriate for the spirit of the game

OH NO, anyway

>>719838176
>not fun
neither is getting RSI because you have a large army or having an AI that can't function because of lack of stacking
I like both games, so I don't give a fuck, but it's not like one is really much better than the other

>>719835765
What will we call this era of UI design in the future?
Not even sure how to best describe it.
Flat, muted, "cards"-based, big fixed layout, surrounded/overlaid over a character model. Unified PC/console design.
Arguably nothing particularly wrong with it. It gets the job done. It should be inoffensive.
But it's so often almost exactly the same thing everywhere. No risk, little creativity.
I couldn't put my finger on it but a lot of those menus kind of feel depressing at this point.
It is, and may Allah forgive me for uttering this word, very soulless.

>>719808562
i liked 6

>>719838868
Technically it's called material design l
or at least it's a subproduct of it.

>>719836584
Now these are the kind of aztecs I wanna play

>>719808230 (OP)
Midnight suns is good

>>719809154
they made Chimera Squad
like how do you go back from that

>>719809951
>new breach mechanic
lmao you mean turning it into a fucking phone game that doesn't even let you move freely around the map

>>719828278
you are beyond blind

>>719808421
So did Marvel Midnight Suns. But Jake "DAT'S X-COM BABY" Solomon fell on the sword for that one.

>>719838176
the spirit is the AI can show up with a Stack of Doom and surprise your ass

>>719815724
Civ 6 with mods is truly a great experience, It's has come to point that is now an improved version of 5. A shame about the artstyle and cartoony behavior of leaders.

the terrain in 7 is the best it's ever looked
that's about all that I can say about it that's nice

>>719836749
>throw it all away to make "actually, the aliens aren't bad, it's white men that are the problem" casualized slop that nobody asked for or wanted*

>>719817930
There is a few Studios in Baltimore's area, are you fucking dumb?

Beth (Online and Elderscrolls [with Guns]), Firaxis, Bit Reactor and others are there.

>>719840645
5 doesnt look that much worse

>>719822149
>its a big reason
Only to CHUDs. The biggest stink over Civ7 was the "choose a new Civ" era bullshit. THAT is what caused a lot of backlash. Not darkies being in the game.

COPE and SEETHE, BTW.

>>719840761
Next time you want to look like you're not seething do NOT capslock EVERY other word in your POST

>>719840886
>SEETHING
COPE and SEETHE, BTW.

>>719840645
map of 7 + districts of 6 + gameplay of 5
please Sid I beg of you

>>719840645
Either that's a crunched screenshot or you're playing on a potato because that looks terrible compared to 5.

>>719808230 (OP)
I hate to see it because they've made absolute shittons of great games for me, but civ7 was the first Civilization I didn't buy at or near launch

>>719840761
lmao ok have fun being fired

tfw no Civ Rev 2

>>719821897
because it's not muddying the waters at all
hating on woke shit isn't a divisive position anymore

saying that wokeness sucks is only controversial in the last few woke holdouts, nobody else will think you're trying to stir up political shit

>>719808230 (OP)
Good, they are fucking retarded and deserve this.

>>719840169
Chimera Squad was very explicitly just something the interns and new employees got to do on the cheap while the rest of the studio got dragged off to marvel hell.

>>719825901
That seems to be a consistent theme with a lot of modern media. If you aren't heavily medicated, then you won't find it particularly enjoyable.

>>719840992
downloaded it off of ign
probably compressed to hell and back

9 years since their last good game

>>719809906
IIRC, EU was in works alongside TPS XCOM, I vaguely recall one of the TPS developers saying if they had swapped the release order of the trailers things would be fine.

>>719841428
Wasn't midnight suns considered somewhat decent if a bit uninspired and short?

>>719840719
yes it does, bro
5's terrain does the job and doesn't need changing, but it's a bit disingenuous to say that it's nearly as good as the latest iteration
the real question, though, is whether or not it NEEDS to look better than 5.

>>719840920
she said calmly

>>719840512
>"DAT'S X-COM BABY"
I fucking hate this saying.
It's a cheap fallback for when retards can't explain statistical anomalies that frequently appear in xcom games.

>>719840645
I don't think anyone who plays next turn simulators is really looking at the graphics after the first couple games
it just needs to be functional so you can instantly see exactly what improvement/feature/unit you're looking at

>>719808230 (OP)
JUSTICE

>>719812365
i kneel super boomer god

>>719840661
The craziest part is they do this in the same universe where the aliens were conducting horrible experimentation on humanity and committing a mass genocide while keeping it hidden from the masses so they wouldn't rise up all at once...which is part of the plot for XCOM2 is to show the rest of the world what the alien overlords have been up to and stopping them. In what fucking world would anyone even WANT to co-exist with your former oppressors when you just found out not only how uncle Ben disappeared, but that he was turned into a genetic goo for some aliens depraved science experiment? XCOM would have a nigh endless supply of new recruits after the fall of the Advent.

>>719841609
yes and no
it doesn't need real time ray-tracing, 8k QUHD, quantum infetterence rendering - but at the same time you want more than just "functional".
if you just wanted that, why not just play on distinctly colored tiles with icons indicating its type and topping.
there's a balance between graphicsfags, FGC turbo performance fags, and "games are just funcitons" fags.

>>719835765
With my last click
I blame borderlaaaaandssss

>>719808421
Play stupid games...

>>719841428
Midnight Suns was alright. Just got fucked by being worse than sum of it's parts and having too many mutually alienating design decisions - capeshit IP, card mechanics, turn based strategy, social links, etc. turned out to not be kind of a mishmash that simultaneously appeals to a lot of people especially since marketing of the game did a pretty poor job in communicating what the game is exactly like.

>>719811087
>last patch turned recent reviews Very Positive
Kneel.

>>719811087
It did kind of kill Civ, but not in the way anyone expected.

>>719841885
I liked the interface in 2 (except for how it failed to register clicks sometimes).

Eh, they've never topped 3. No big loss if they get shuttered.

>>719842049
kek

>>719842102
It's significantly more responsive compared to 3 or TTWLs, which is odd how the same rough UI has managed to get worse in terms of usability.

>>719841609
this is how you end up with every unit or district or tile being blue because of game mechanics

>>719815724
There's some dogshit system that makes it so you literally cannot take over cities that are near other cities, they have like influence or something over them and they revert back to their owner in like five turns after you take it over. Completely ruins civ6.

>>719842167
>It's significantly more responsive compared to 3 or TTWLs
Never played them. Your comment here just confirms (again) that I made the right decision to avoid them.
Hard to imagine it becoming less responsive, but then again, we are on the worst timeline.

>>719842183
NTA
I don't remember that system. Was that in a DLC or something?

>>719842336
You can't really use mouse controls with the menus in 3 as they will sometimes have ghost inputs that don't register or speed through what you actually want them to do. The UI was (mostly) alright, but AAA devs love to break things that were working just fine to change it for changes sake.

>>719841681
RetardGOD. He's a fucking zoomer who thinks liking old shit gives him "cred" even though he wasn't even self-aware when Enemy Unknown came out.

>>719838882
and you're an absolute disgrace, so qed

>>719842386
Looks like it was from rise and fall DLC.
https://civilization.fandom.com/wiki/Loyalty_(Civ6)
This shit made it actually impossible to take over cities. They would instantly revolt, and then the original owner would take it back instantly.

>>719811087
HUMANKIND BROS......I KNEEL

>>719808560
i'd love to talk about why a producer let civ 7 ship like a complete pile of shit too, do you think xhe'll reply to a pm?

>>719842576
Consolization of UIs is a real blight on gaming.

>>719829872
designed by the state department (cfr humankind)

>>719842039
HOLY FUARK HUMANKINO IS BACK

>>719841428
xcom2 was a massive downgrade from EW

>>719840645
that looks like shit, even age of wonders 4 is better looking

>>719842118
3 is shit and worse than 4 and 2

>>719808230 (OP)
>"staff reduction today at Firaxis Games," as the studio "restructures and optimizes" its development process for "adaptability, collaboration, and creativity
corpospeak niggers are truly the lowest subhumans. Even worse than, may Allah forgive me for uttering this word, Indians.

>>719808230 (OP)
This suggests Civ 7 was rushed out because they blew all their Civ 6 money on ayahuasca.

>>719817930
Baltimore in general is a hellscape city. It is where Detroit was 20 years ago: collapsing population, rising crime, whole neighborhoods being abandoned, etc. There is no single industry that succeeds in that city but some industries get subsidies. Power costs are through the roof, all the nicest parts of town are empty or chaos on the weekends, and the commutes are horrible. Also, the last 5 mayors were all arrested for corruption.

>>719830256
Had to check if this was real. You really start as Egypt and end up flying jets as some fuckoff sub-saharan african country called Buganda.

>>719849738
I had to check where the hell Buganda is. For everyone too lazy to google, it's autonomous area in Uganda.

>>719813972
I'm pretty sure they could have made DLC money with less protests from the playerbase if they made the nations static but introduced leader switching. The leaders having lifespans and eventually dying works really well in Old World, Civ 7 could have had era specific leader switches.
Firaxis probably really miscalculated how much players identify with the leaders opposed to how much they identify with the nations.

>>719842183
>There's some dogshit system that makes it so you literally cannot take over cities that are near other cities, they have like influence or something over them and they revert back to their owner in like five turns after you take it over. Completely ruins civ6.
Loyalty is the best system in Civ 6. It means you can't forward settle like a total retarded asshole and have to actually plan empires and conquest.

>>719829872
>Ungodly awful UI
>The entire game centers around switching your civilization mid-game
>Which means no civ actually feels like a fully fleshed out gameplay choice, and railroads you way more than previous games
>Harriet Tubman in the base roster but England is day one DLC

>>719841529
It was genuinely okay after awhile. Like a solid 6/10 game. I don't regret playing it. It's just... they had to know it would never be popular. Marvel Rivals is the ONLY capeslop game in a decade to actually be a big success.

>>719841114
thats actually what Civ 7 was lmao

deserved
every night before bed i kneel down and pray for more layoffs

>>719850641
its logical but they didnt actually make it interesting. civ 4 culture flipping is the better variation

>>719850191
Nah.
Any switching would have been (and was) total shit. I get the whole "leaders don't live that long" viewpoint, but it doesn't really factor in for me personally.
They were just trying to copy the latest FotM and got burned, now want people to feel sorry for em. Fuck that. They thought they could be Apple and tell their customer base what they wanted, rather than listen to the fanbase and deliver what they wanted.

>>719808562
But 6 is the best one

>>719851662
no 4 is the best and 2 is second. 5 or 3 is a discussion but yeah 6 is for retards

>>719829158
Well, it happens. lmao

>>719851984
it was a better time, kids

>>719840169
Chimera squad really did mark the end of Xcom but I was too high on copium at the time to accept the truth.

I seem to recall some noir X-Com what was that

>>719811087
Kino

>>719852505
Othercide

>>719852505
https://youtu.be/mO1_C76latM

It was not very good.

>>719808230 (OP)
the people behind killing firaxis shouldn't be fired, that is so sad! They should be killed instead.

>>719852774
Unironically I hate when bad studios close.
Like rats, the just scurry to other studios and spread their disease.
I'd rather the studios just keep limping along producing mediocre shit that just keeps the lights on.

>>719808421
Closer to shat the bed, set it on fire and stood in the window with a gun shooting at all the firefighters screaming that they were chuds.

>>719821226
Name him and show the level of shit he was.

>>719842183
>cant deal with loyalty
Skill issue

>>719808230 (OP)
If it wasn't for GTA printing money I feel like Take-Two would be in major trouble. All of their smaller studios keep fucking up bigly.

>>719822604
Yeah you really don't seem to understand that the woke shit IS a huge, glaring issues to a lot of people. You might not think so personally, but it is. I'm willing to bet Harriet Tubman alone stopped a significant number of people from buying.

>>719834995
The fuckin' eyebrows on this lad.

>>719808230 (OP)
After 7 the whole studio should be closed

>>719843193
In theme and tone it was. EU was much more horror while the sequel went for an urban guerilla/terrorist style and i didn't really like that. But mechanically XCOM2 just beats the shit out of XCOM1. Especially the soldier and weapon customization is insane.

>>719841474
>if they had swapped the release order of the trailers things would be fine
I can believe that. The reception was so bad that it absolutely felt like EU was produced to save face.

>>719821897
Because woke was central to the design decisions this time around. Eg, the emphasis on having black kingdoms available in the full timeline over having England at all. it was also core to how they approached critics.

>>719839362
The gameplay is good, unfortunately a lot of the game involves the characters opening their mouths and speaking shitty, shitty, shitty marvel dialogue.

>>719822604
Wait, let me calibrate what your idea of woke is and more glaring issues are. Because demoting England to DLC was a woke decision.

>>719808230 (OP)
I stopped caring when XCOM died again.

>>719842039
How on Earth did the Soulmasters at Amplitude become so corrupted?

>>719808889
this

Killing these faggots is the only way this should end

>>719812365
What about the long wars

>>719851763
No lol...6>4>5, old does not equal good sorry.

>>719825778
Terrible UI. Copies the "eras" shtick from humankind but manages to execute it even worse. Poor visualization of units. Age breaks completely halt the game and restart it in a fucked up way. Dumbed down systems, hampered by making tooltips even fucking dumber. Religion is bizzare and unpredicatble. Conversions feel random. Barbarians removed as "problematic". City states their replacements are ahistorical assholes. XP replaced by "commander units", which feels like they never finished as a concept. Game SITLL has a goddam memory leak, which for a game that you want running for extended periods is a killer.

It is unquestionably the worst civ game ever, beating the fuck out of 0 and 3 by 4 great scientists and a wonder.

>>719827084
Current firaxis has NO ability to make a new alpha centauri. Just look at Beyond Earth.

>>719829872
Less than half baked. It's a full spectrum failure. I would unironically go with Ubisoft over this sack of shit.

>>719830093
It tells you where their priorities are.

>>719808560
Good that xcom spin off and all the latest civ games looked horrible. Shitty western art styles need to die off.

>>719830592
>>719829502
Remember that an objective of the shills is to make sure the leaders and employees that completely screwed the game land good jobs at other big companies after they get laid off. Completely ignoring failure and reality long enough for them to move is a core part of this. The PM of veilguard is leading a new team at Hasbro/WOTC. The art director of Concord is on COD. A bunch of people from Veilguard moved to Sony on Ghost of Yotei.

So you see their buddies in the press still pretend that it was "market forces" or "mismanagement" that wasn't their fault at all that caused the failure.

>>719831034
Their BBC fetish is so hard that you cannot play through a game as Egypt. Egypt naturally switches to...Buganda, which is a tribal area in uganda in real life. England is DLC. Oh, and Harriet Tubman now rules America.

>>719831638
Because the idea of a people, a volk that continues through time is incredibly racist, and the system doesn't allow enough black and brown empires to shine. Like the third caliphate or buganda.

>>719808230 (OP)
Xcom 2 sold over 5 million as a lower budget turn based game. A sequel would have been wildly successful but Jake got too big for his britches and died on his sword for a capeshit dating sim. Firaxis is one of the rare examples of creatives being given too much rope to hang themselves with.

>>719833579
Strange picks for leaders is one thing. Going out of their way to pick the most trivial brown women in history over all the problematic white men has reached a peak with this one.

>>719840512
he deserved it too.

>>719809154
Sid Meyer went into semi retirement, and the company went from progressive to completely fucking retarded.

>>719811087
I honestly didn't think they had the power, but I was proven wrong.

>>719827179
seethe you zoomer shitstain

>>719808230 (OP)

>Firaxis Layoffs

Civ 7 has fundamental design flaws. Leaders not being tied to civs. Civs morphing into other civs between eras. Eras having hard breaks between each other. All of these were terrible decisions that never should have made it to the final product.

The people behind those decisions need to go. Firaxis needs to swallow their pride and go back to the CIV 5 and 6 formula that worked. If they don't CIV 7 will never find an audience.

>>719831034
>How is it woke?

Aside from the choice of leaders and civs (Harriet Tubman, really?), the concept that civs evolve into other civs is fundamentally multi cultural.

There is no permanence. Every civilization is a nebulous thing that lasts for an era then turns into something else. Civs themselves are customizable to the point that they cease to resemble their historical counterpart and just become an amalgam of various stat bonuses and this is true of both the player's civ and the AI civs. In the past if you were playing against Ghengis Khan and the Mongols you knew who you were dealing with. Now you're up against Harriet Tubman who lead the Roman Empire before it turned into Ming China before it turned into Mexico. There are no nations, there are no peoples.


The world is a business Mr. Beale.

https://youtu.be/V9XeyBd_IuA

>>719850191
Based on interviews, firaxsis absolutely knew. The gandhi memes. Then nationalists. They felt that it was problematic, and something that they needed to force their players away from. They deliberately wanted them to appreciate these other civilizations and leaders more, and not as much on the great white colonialists and empire builders.

>>719854391
They turned away from the limitless possibilities of space.

>>719824941
>Charlemagne of Inca

>>719856029
>how can I make every problem about being woke
you're fucking deranged

>>719856372
You're deranged pretending it was otherwise. It's the words of the creators themselves anon. It's completely obvious from the design choices: >>719830256

How many people out there were clamoring to play as Buganda as opposed to Egypt? It's very clear that the game fucked up pretty much everything except rendering terrain and "representation". that's no accident.

Legitimately the layoffs do not go far enough. Every single person who worked on civ 7 has to go.

>>719808230 (OP)
Hmm I think I will do another playthrough of Magisters Modmod for FFH2 for CivIV as the Calabim again.

>>719856372
How much are they paying you?

>>719824941
I like that it's just bleeding through charlie's fucking hands and you can't even read it because there's no dropshadow

>>719808421
This is why you never buy new civ games until both expansions are out, 5 was meh, and beyond earth and 6 were shit until 1st or second expansion was released.

>>719856372

The bias there is pretty obvious dude. They had a DLC about climate change for CIV 6, now in CIV 7 they're pretending Harriet Tubman is a world leader and they've undermined the concept of a civilization as permanent to create a system where civilizations morph into different and sometimes completely unrelated civs through the magic of multiculturalism.

The audience didn't want any of these things. This was current year California proselytizing yet another sermon to an unwilling public; but they went to far, the audience revolted and they trashed a successful 35 year old franchise in the name of reinventing it to fit their ideology.

Like it or not this was clearly going woke and going broke.

>>719821994
he already abandoned it.

>>719857663
>hating on the climate change DLC
that was great. pump enough CO2 in the air and I'd flood half the world. I wish that shit was kept.

>>719857736

I don't know how he couldn't. Its not an entertaining game to lets play. The map generation alone is an utter disaster.

I switched my interest in civ games back to Age of Wonders
Planetfall and AoW4 are great games, they will scratch the itch you have for a modern 4x

>>719840761
On the contrary, people would be more fine with changing a civilization over eras if they actually had good choices. Note how no one shits on the china and SEA progression paths because the choices are pretty decent, while everyone shits on things like the modern civilization of buganda. The main reason why people are upset is because after of the first age most of the civs are shit and you are forced to pick a shit civ.

Chinise gacha civ game with cute girls as leaders, when?

>>719858907
Oh boy would you enjoy the steam workshop

>>719840512
>So did Marvel Midnight Suns.
I still don't know what the fuck went wrong there.

>>719858539
Speaking of which, did you try SpellForce: Conquest of Eo?

>>719858975
You only need the ability to play as Hitler

>>719855307
You mean you didn't like the sequel?

>>719808230 (OP)
Make a new mainline XCOM game, RETARDS.

>>719810414
Sad. If anything 4X really confirms you need a strong driving designer behind it to bring it all together. If you design by committee you will get bland shit.

>>719859246
XCOM is too xenophobic they can't do that anymore.

>>719855984
That's the issue. They never ever should have tempered with the core of idea of fixed Civilizations.

>>719857810
Weak writing team. Terrible marketing. Terrible build quality. Bad integration of card mechanics.

>>719859042
same with all marvel games - devs thought MARVEL would print them money. amusingly enough that success has not translated from movies to other mediums.

>>719859480
Aren't Marvel's profits plummeting after Infinity War/Endgame anyway?

>>719859523
It turns out riri isn't a good substitute for tony stark, cho isn't a good substitute for banner, captain falcon isn't a good substitute for steve rogers, and ant man isn't that great period.

>>719859217

I think the idea of being able to use the aliens in your XCOM squad is a solid one. But the cringey multi culti leddit writing and the brain dead take that humanity isn't justified in being fearful of the aliens that enslaved and slaughtered them destroyed any potential the idea had.

Wokism really is a new religion. Everything it touches must espouse the dogma of the cult regardless of how poorly that dogma fits the setting.

>>719859104
I did, great game the focuses on the RPG part of 4x. I consider them different enough that they don't compete with eachother

>>719834995
poor lad got made a patsy to disguise the fed's incompetence

>>719832527
who?

>>719851984
he doesn't look bad in that red desu
give him some modern dentistry and a little bit of face work to emphasize the scars and make them look cool he'd be pretty rad looking

>>719849171
> the last 5 mayors were all arrested for corruption.
I checked and it turns out that there hasn't been a non nigger mayor for almost 20 years. Not saying that's related to what you said there but it may be related to what you said there.

>>719859760
>I think the idea of being able to use the aliens in your XCOM squad is a solid one.
No it's not because it betrays the whole theme. XCOM is "us vs. them" in its purest form. We are the good guys defending our home from literal alien invaders who want to kill and control us. We don't need to humanise aliens because they are not human.

>>719857663
How poltarded do you need to be to get upset about climate change in a game?

>>719860047
Helldivers 2 pulls this off better

>>719859868
I honestly found these sidegrade games more interesting than the bigger titles everyone raves about.

>>719857663
Two of the most beloved Civ 4 BtS mods, Caveman2Cosmos and Realism Invictus, also have global warming/pollution as a game mechanic. Especially C2C.

>>719860151
Because they are literal bugs while many alien variants in XCOM are infiltration units. It's much easier to portrait a bug as a monster than a big headed grey guy. Helldivers is also emphasizing that Starship Troopers tone way more than XCOM.

>>719855984
>Harriet Tubman, really
Ada lovelace is worse imo

>>719860089
We're not fucking chumps here. How leftypol do you have to be to not see the difference between SMAC's implementation, and trying to sell an entire DLC around that idea. One that doesn't even do a good job of it. I don't think they EVER fixed disaster intensity settings affecting climate change properly.

>>719860302
>Realism Invictus
I don't think I've ever heard anyone play with that mod. It's actually popular?

>>719808929
>SMAC
are we destined to suffer forever?

>>719860506
I've seen some people praising it in Civ threads. Basically the amount of civics stay the same but they are given different bonuses than just having "Lel, you suffer less war weariness" and advancing eras makes your citizens "demand" more healthcare and bread and circuses from you so you just can't rush to the end of the tech tree.

>>719860570
>What do I care for your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output.
>The Virtual World.

>>719860089
>How poltarded do you need to be to get upset about climate change in a game?

Sorry; but giving me Al Gore's doomsday cult fan fiction to try and scare monger people doesn't sit well with me.

There are a lot of ways they could implement ecological damage as a game mechanic that I would approve of.

>>719860165
it helps when someone makes a game that isn't just copy pasting civ for the hundredth time
solium infernum loses a point of originality since its a remake

>>719860947
>solium infernum loses a point of originality since its a remake
I'm fairly sure most aren't even aware of that until it gets pointed out.

>>719860997
I'm not going to act like I knew until they mentioned it while they were showing it off during some game show however many years ago

>>719859042
The shame is that it's a good game that got messed up for a lot of stupid decisions.
1 being Marvel.
2 adding a lot of story and stupid exploration in the hub world.
3 adding relationship levels with characters that are quite awful and I don't think there's even romance.
4 making a MC with a defined story that fucks off every self insert.
5 making the player do "daily tasks" to keep up. Like go to research, then to training, go to undercover missions, talk with X and Y

>>719860838
They promised me all the coastal cities full of faggots in California would be wiped off the map and I'll never forgive them

>>719860838
Only a /pol/ dweller would be satisfied with photographic evidence without dates or times in an area with tides.

>>719861276

You can literally see the water mark of where high tide rises to in all three pictures since they were all taken at low tide.

Thanks for playing.

>>719861276
but environmental scientists have been saying for years that sea levels would rise by several feet in the next decade or so since the 60s why isn't the whole thing underwater?

>>719808230 (OP)
After Civ7? Overdue. Sadly, the way it usually goes the shitty designers responsible for the game will stay and lower devs will get sacked.

should have started going under after introducing global happiness in 5 if not earlier

They deserve it for Civ VII. It's funny watching the copium wear off as essentially every content creator dedicated to Civ admits that the game is shit, Firaxis fucked up, and they want to die. I'm not one to revel in others' misery, but Firaxis needs to actually face consequences for such a fundamental, colossal fuck-up of game design. It's probably not going to fix anything though, it's just going to leave them with fewer resources to fix the issue or even abandon Civ VII and start work on VIII.

>>719808562
This.

Just remake Civilization 4 already
Thats all studios are obviously capable of anymore is remakes

>bought civ v for $15
>played it for 1k hours
>bought civ vi for $25
>played it for 1k hours
maybe they DO need new business model

>>719809154
Jake begged the suits to make XCOM, then the suits forced him to make mahvel while he told his interns to make Diversity Squad to experiment with some leftover concepts. After mahvel flopped because it was a game nobody asked for, Jake was scapegoated, let go and now there's no one left with enough clout to continue XCOM.

>>719862123
The issues are unfixable. It would be better to just start over.

>>719862225
I guarantee they're trying to figure out how to paradox or live service this shit.

>>719829502
nobody says this bro.

>>719862013
Global Happiness is such a retarded game mechanic

>>719862225
Whatever happens, consumers are getting fucked
>why
2K

>>719862369
Some of the gaming rags have said that.

>>719831551
jake's trying to make superhero vs supervillain shit again?

>>719862123
it's funny when you look at even the most basic shit like the game's ui. did they just not have testers at all, or got people who don't play 4x in general?

>>719831551
>>719831953
>zero interest

I'm definitely interested. I like XCOM, I like Star Wars. Its honestly one of the few upcoming games I am interested in.

>>719862565
The funny thing is that they had a pretty buddy-buddy relationship with content creators, to the point of inviting them to the office to preview VII - maybe even on multiple occasions, I can't really recall. Every one of them criticized the developers and advised them that they needed to change X or Y thing before release, from the UI, to the presentation, to the mechanics, to missing features. If you're flying out these people who have a parasitic relationship with your product and brand and they're telling you it's fucked, it's fucked.

In retrospect, it seems like one giant
>You think you do, but you don't
>Trust us

>>719841606
it's just a joke meme bro

>>719837171
Who is that suppose to be? Nero?

>>719811087
never in a million years would I have guessed a wannabe game like humankind could ruin the next civilization

>>719862565

The ability to patch things has made them lazy to the point that releasing things you know to be broken has become common practice.

>>719862697
That makes how hard the complete and total failure more hilarious.

>>719836203
>Didn't start off that way.
That's not true. I remember people complaining about Catherine and Gorgo.

>>719811087
I kneel. Didn't think it was gonna be the civ-killer in this way

>>719863295

Yeah, CIV 6 put too much effort into trying to have a near equal split of male and female leaders so we got a lot of relative nobody women.

>>719851512
Instead of culture flipping give me a chunk of the produced resources from the city. That would make culture actually interesting to interact with instead of tech rushing and just conquering everything.

>>719816182
>6 is by far the most popular and played Civ game
But you're wrong, retard: >>719812694

>>719831551
Most of the derivative devs don't understand that XCOM players like the game because they can customize their own generic dudes and watch as their circumstances shape their stories even if they get oneshot through full cover, they're not buying tactics games for unique quippy OCs and a narrative surrounding them; that's more of SRPGs like Fire Emblem.
So I wouldn't say it'll take XCOM's place, rather just ending up in the broader sea of TBT games.

>>719864470
>Most of the derivative devs don't understand that XCOM players like the game because they can customize their own generic dudes and watch as their circumstances shape their stories even if they get oneshot through full cover, they're not buying tactics games for unique quippy OCs and a narrative surrounding them; that's more of SRPGs like Fire Emblem.
I think most want to tap into both of those segments. Problem is the more defined your characters are the better the story has to be for you to care. X-COM, and XCOM, get away with it precisely because you get to customize generics so "aliens invaded, fight them off" is just fine.

>>719862225
Parajew has it already fixed. They are too stupid to figure it out (read: Copy paste).

>>719831551
I have a feeling people will buy that for the license more than anything else.

>>719865082
If they'll buy it at all given Disney's track record with the whole IP

>>719865112
Millennials love Clone Wars thouhg

>>719808560
>All whites are getting fired
Interesting

>>719808560
>animation, artist, producer, nocoders
Any actual programmers? Anyone with a PhD in maths/compsci?

>>719827819

>Era specific leader designs.

That would be fun to get back. They kind of did that in Beyond Earth. The leader's appearance would change based on what tech path you went down.

>>719827819
>>719866414
2K is a small indie company, please understand.
Firaxis has previously stated that they spend ridiculous amounts of money to make each civ leader. Likely why they keep scaling them down with every game. Making specialised clothes for each one 3 times goes straight against the sort of money pinching that deleted the full backgrounds.

>>719859760
Chim squad was 3/5 for me at $5. Feeling like someone's side project described it best. If xcom was fighting a war, squad was a cop swat unit and the gameplay matched.

The writing was overall shit and didn't keep itself consistent with the multicultural integration message it was pushing hard. Some aliens so young they don't know of life outside of earth and food logistics because of biology issues was neat. Then one of the characters becoming a blue hair dye mouthpiece in later dialogue was jarring. The art screamed tumblr shit too. Felt like some people did try to make a good game while others really wanted to do something like the Saints Row reboot. I also heard the VAs got really bad directions?

>>719867027
I still don't understand why these models are supposedly so expensive even if they are the most detailed and animated in the game.

>>719867027
And they keep looking worse overall. It's the one thing that peaked in Civ5.

>>719864429
Huh? Dumb fucking nigger-kun?

>>719824941
I genuinely can't believe they shipped a UI this bad, you don't even need to know much to be able to tell just how terrible it is. It's not easy to make good UI but you simply cannot release a strategy game like this since it's what you'll be interacting with 90% of the time while playing. And it's especially surprising considering that even though there was a lot room for improvement, CIV VI probably had one of the best UI in the series.

>>719871513
problem is so many devs forget UI is what you'll be staring at most of the time in any 4X game. form is great, but it needs to serve its function first.

>>719808230 (OP)

I hope they all die.
No, I take that back, that's too harsh, even for the atrocity that is Civ 7. I hope half of them die.

>>719871675
Yes, you can get away with shitty UI in other games but if you do that in a strategy game then it's dead in the water. It's also something you can't just easily patch, reworking UI takes a tremendous amount of effort.
I do wonder how much of that has to do with the console port, but even if that were the case there's still some baffling decisions that just don't make any sense. I know 2k probably pressured them to release a console edition at launch to chase profits, but it was definitely a terrible idea to develop these two versions simultaneously no matter how you look at it.

>>719831551
Wait what? Star Wars tactics soon?
The marvel shit actually looked like I'd have fun playing it, but the cringe would physically destroy me
I don't love Star Wars but it's definitely a serviceable setting, I'll play this too
>>719862630
Did you play rogue trader? Good for an XCOM EW fan?

Civilization was one of those series I've played as a kid since 2, and they've always been solid. Even 6 was fine, I don't have high standards. I thought the formula for the games was as unbreakable as racing games. I felt scammed with 7.

Think I've lost hope for all future game development. Nothing is certain now. Every new generation gets shittier and takes longer, but 7 broke me. Maybe gaming just isn't for me anymore.

>>719859042
Aside from all points mentioned the character designs are just straight up lame. It's modern marvel MCUbrandsynergyslopcore when based on Rivals and Tokon most capeshit fans prefer cartoony looks.

>>719874217
There's plenty of games anon. I've been stuck/enjoying playing Kenshi for the last two months and some various other games before that, single player or online. I am of the belief that so many shitty games are being developed, AAA, indie, or in-between but there's enough good games too that I'm fine. I don't have to touch the latest MK or Farcry, especially if they are undoubtedly shit. The only issue is if friends or aquaintances are trying to push me and I say no now. Can call me anti social but they're burning through money in various ways despite my warnings but that's another story.

>>719822903
>And people wonder why nobody wants to work in AAA vidya anymore.
Seriously. I get a lot of people get rose tinted glasses cause "muh heckin' video game industry", but the industry is corporatized just as much as any other tech industry now and workers have to understand that many C-suite suits will be happy to let any number of them go, assuming their stock prices rises 1.2% in the process. Brand and studio loyalty means shit.

>>719854568
>old does not equal good sorry.
And newer does not equal better
6 is shit

Workers or pajeets?

>>719874217
>and takes longer
This is the thing I hate the most. All these out-of-touch suits will corpo-speak about the need to be "flexible" and "adaptable", and then they'll spend 8 years developing a game that anyone could have told you was worthless from the get-go. Obviously TotK sold gangbusters because it's Zelda and there's no world where it wouldn't sell, but it's still an excellent example of taking far too long to develop a game. I feel bad for Zelda fans, they're never getting another proper Zelda game.

>>719808230 (OP)
>XCOM EU
>Pretty cool really ambient hits in most categories except map and gameplay depth
>XCOM 2
>Couldn't fit enemy AI or good balance/story/music/customization into the 100GB spaghetti coded dung heap. You have 2 turns left to refund this game with a ~99%(50%) success rate.
>XCOM DLC
>Trannies and cringe in space
It's never the people at fault who get fired. Bungie only removed the lead faggot after wasting billions and the dude still gets a triple platinum parachute. Fuck this studio though S

>>719808421
2k is steaming pile of dog shit, blaming the devs in this case makes no sense. You can point out what devs do wrong or could be doing more precise but it will always result in the game being improved. Publishers only worsen the game by demanding DRM ridden faggotry features nobody asked for which trash like 2K online accounts and what not. Retarded publishers deserve to be fucking lynched.

>>719827825
It's absolutely over, and XCOM2 felt sabotaged, the design was so ugly apart from very specific things, it's like they were forced to work with nepo babies. The characters were all bland, brown and unlikable and Bradford was a totally different person. 80% of the soldier customization looked ugly and Chimera squad killed the IP for good. Very interesting how XCOM was supposed to die with the FPS genre XCOM : The Bureau but then it died for good anyway. You cannot help the fuck ups at Firaxis, firing everybody won't help either, you're still left with the fuck ups higher ups who enabled this in the first place and who will do it again if given the chance.

>>719876284
Kenshi is one of those rare gems where you don’t even care about progress anymore, you’re just vibing with your squad of freaks scavenging sandals off some dead guy in the sand. Totally feel you on ignoring the "must-play" crap everyone hypes up-half those games feel like walking into an ad campaign playing dress-up as a "gamer experience." I’ve been deep in old stuff I missed or niche indies instead of whatever latest slop they’re trying to push. If that makes me antisocial, then I’ll gladly be a lone warlord hauling copper with one leg and a dog companion who’s seen some shit.

>>719808230 (OP)
should have made x-com 3 (with sexy aliens instead of wokeshit)

>>719859042
It's really a shame, I think the idea of a strategy RPG where you make your own custom superhero is awesome but it's tied to a setting that is way overdone and won't appeal to the type of audience that strategy games attracts. If it had been its own thing with original characters I think it would have probably fared much better, but as it is the MCU hype train has long since been dead.

>>719864470
>they're not buying tactics games for unique quippy OCs and a narrative surrounding them
But muh narrative science diploma from Browns University...

I support firing game developers because their games are gay

>>719836584
Still cracks me up right before 7 dropped they put out a mobile game targeting china with art like this

>>719877261
The indian contractors are only hired for specific things, that's how you end up with a tree with 70k polygons. They just don't give a shit, job done and sent, now pay me. These are employees.
You can bet they'll hire more indians with "AI" to "fix" their game.

Do developers no longer play their own games? They always act shocked when they release the bigged dog shit on the market.
They have this entitlement of "our fans will buy it", always cashing on the job of previous employees.

I just don't get it, I'm sure that the actual devs, programmers and other skilled employees saw this from miles away and left the company before any of this happened. It's always the "artists" crying over social media. The state of strategy games is very sad these days, top sellers are the lowest effort games, with hundreds of dlcs to "fix em".

>>719808230 (OP)
It was necessary. Civilization was dead. The Civ games used to be progressive. No, not politically, but in the sense that each one added features and content. People who argue which of the first 4 Civilization games are their favorite are generally marking at which point they considered the game to have too many features. Starting with Civ5, the game stopped growing. They instead chose to start sidegrading their mechanics for the purpose of maximizing the appeal to the "modern audience". This resulted in Civ5 having a shit ton of missing features, many of which were reimplemented but in different ways. Then Civ6 rolled out, again, sidegrading mechanics and missing most features, but slowly rolling some of them back out. Then Civ7 did the exact same thing.

Firaxis stopped giving a shit about making a kickass boardgame that defined the genre and started caring about selling board games to people who may or may not have a passing interest in them. And thus it was their time to go.

>>719880414
WE

>>719841189
This is half-true. All XCOM releases were lower and lower budget because they weren't selling. Normalfags didn't care, despite Jake Solomon walking around Gamestop trying to get people to buy his game. Watering the franchise down made nobody happy. Original fans were stuck with a worse game while normalfags considered it turn-based faggotshit. I would like to name the niche group that actually liked Firaxis XCOM, but they are such a minority as the game was never profitable despite re-using Civilization V's engine for both games and selling multiple expansions and DLCs. It cost almost nothing to make, and still lost money.

>>719879005
They should have, but that wouldn’t give them the opportunity to lazily soapbox to the players.

>>719829872
To be fair every civ games comes out half baked. But they really shat the bed with civ 7, it tried to be a humankind clone and there isnt a civilization continuity anymore since you swap civilizations which put off most players including myself.
Its telling that even the biggest shill civilization youtubers just outright told their viewers that most of you are gonna hate it.

>>719830256
>Modern age civ
>Buganda
KEK gets me everytime, playing as renaissance Italy then I transform into Morocco in the modern age.

>>719840645
I kind of find the game fun to break easily, though I doubt it's intentional
And the build over mechanics make it less obnoxious than 6 to play but I think that's more of a factor of trying to recall "You need this terrain besides that terrain but only if its on a coast and you haven't built over it and if you already unlocked it in the tech tree".
In fact, I think I kind of enjoy 7 over 6 from a moment to moment gameplay.
There's a fuckton of retarded ideas that's going to take 2-3 expansions to unfuck
But if I'm not going to play the OG's or 5 modded, I don't see a reason to really go into 6. But I never heavily modded it either so there's that.


>>719860947
loses another point for not making the AI go any faster, turns are still so fucking slow

>>719881604
XCOM 2012 revived turn-based combat to normies you history revisionist, look at all its clones, they dwarf the original XCOM clones.

>>719882142
>playing as USA as you transform into Haiti/Brazil.

>>719831551
>>719864470
This reeks of Disney suits saying "actually we need a loveable rogue, and a droid, and a Jedi, and a Mandalorian, and a clone, and..."

>>719882867
>playing as England you transform into Pakistan

>>719825780
it tastes like cardboard

>>719808230 (OP)
Unsurprising. Civ VII made literally 0 good changes.

>>719880361
unironically better than 7

>>719812420
And they try to gaslight each time you call their shit out. Those disgusting fuckers give brownoids a bad name.

>>719881446
The Axumites were based black men.
You can play as this dude in Old World.

https://youtu.be/x2xNFX8dRwM

Denuvo kills another game. Who'd have seen that coming?

>>719808421
>leaders with DLC costumes
>modular civs
>modular eras with the post-WW2 era blatantly being left for future DLC
It's the first game in the series truly optimized around regular MTX but nobody wanted to buy it for $70. It's also ridiculously lacking in feature completion for how long it was in development. The design philosophy also contributes to making every game feel exactly the same. To think I thought civ 5 DLC model was bad

>>719849946
Buganda was the civilizational core of Uganda. Basically, they were a petty empire at the time the British rolled up, and the British politely asked them (I'm serious, they didn't even get conquered) to join the British empire for their protection and they agreed. Then the British turned Buganda into the province of Uganda, which is what it remained as after the British decolonized Africa.

Literally all they had to do was not to have civ-switching and ages. They could have released as much DLC showing Queen Wakalaka of the Oxanti tribe as an epic girlboss as they wished, but as long the game felt like 5-6, the game would have been a success. They just had to be Humankind 2 and want to sell 1/3s of a Civ/Leader packs.

>>719859480
I think publishers forgot the key fact that you're not supposed to pour tons and tons of your budget into licenseslop. PS2 era devs knew this but then we get shit like Avengers and Midnight Suns where way too much money, time and effort gets invested into something that has shovelware levels of appeal.

It's not even your own intellectual property, why the fuck are you pouring so much money into it?

>>719857663
The science behind the climate change shit might be shoddy, but I actually did really like Gathering Storm. It introduced some of the most fun civs in the history of the franchise. Oh, and running an inland empire and spewing out infinity CO2 to force the ice caps to melt and fuck up your neighbors was hilarious. I love blanketing my entire empire with infinity railroads and factories while drowning everyone else.

>>719830256
I get them wanting to address how many factions become irrelevant outside their designated time in history but I don't think the right choice was to literally lock those civs to only being playable during those eras. However this is better for selling DLCs so that's why they did that

>>719889115
I don't think it's something that needed to be addressed. The only change I would make is making late game unique abilities/units/improvements/buildings/etc way more powerful than early game ones since early game ones have a larger timeframe to snowball. If early game UUs have a 20% power boost over their contemporaries, late game UUs should have a 100% power boost. American and British units should be almost unstoppable because they come online so late while Egyptian and Chinese units should be powerful enough to give them a chance to prevent the late game civs from reaching their potential.

>>719808230 (OP)
Will be interesting to see whether this means they'll just pull the plug on Civ 7. I thought the game was okay and could have been turned into something really good with an expansion or two. The problem is that updates wouldn't be able to significantly alter the civ switching and era stuff which were quite controversial so it's possible that the devs just gave up on it. I will say that the fact that the staff getting fired are art people instead of programmers could be a good sign since the systems are what the team should focus on if they want things to improve.

>>719889790
They've now made it worse too as now instead who you play in the final era feels irrelevant as you rush to victory, a total failure in design

>>719890185
Yeah, every single design decision that went into Civ VII was a disaster. Every. Single. One.

I guess navigable rivers are okay as a concept.

>>719808230 (OP)
Reminder this is all happening because they chose to make marvel slop instead or xcom 3. Completely deserved downfall.

>>719808230 (OP)
>[X News]
Who the fuck cares, Firaxis hasn't made anything good in years.

>>719826425
Apocalypse works okay right now on My Machine(tm) via steam. It's not broken, it's definitely xcom classic janky but more in having an obtuse and frankly godawful layered mapping system for battles, hence why just nuking the slums is easier sometimes.

Play realtime for battles rather than turn-based if you do pirate the gog version or something: Apocalypse has a tun of high-movement enemies that can just wipe you on their turn without you even seeing them, or trap enemies who fuck you with reaction shots when you kill them. I've always liked apoc though.

>>719808230 (OP)
Oh no! Anyway...

>>719893329
They haven't made a bad game in a while. Their last 3 releases were all either okay or amazing.

And then Civ VII happened

>>719893708
Your standards are falling along with your expectations

>>719893795
Civilization VI and XCOM 2 were amazing.

>>719893874
And what year did they come out buddy?

>>719869553
They go through sensitivitiy readers on everything, right down to her bracelets and jewlery.

>>719869649
I still prefer the Civ 3 style of new outfits and backgrounds through the eras.

>>719871513
>>719872227
It doesn't fucking work on consoles either.

>>719874217
Try some of Civ's distant relatives. Maybe paradox?

>>719877261
Looks like mostly workers. And by that I mean out of touch california workers who have never played 5 turns on prince difficulty. The only way you could have UI this badly is if people literally have zero undertanding of the game and how to play it.

>>719894061
I said they were Firaxis' last 3 releases, not recent releases.

>>719881318
There is NO way in hell that the UI leads played through a full game on this shit.

>>719882039
Maybe 4 and later, but it really wasn't always this way. Especially not when Sid was running the show.

>>719888906
It's weak compared to SMAC in this regard. With or without the pirate faction.

>>719889798
Did they axe the fuckheads who insisted on civ switching? Did they boot the lead UI people? I think they're hosed.

>>719891915
Isn't it fun how they fucked up map generation forever by locking themselves into having to have two continents for the second age to work.
Have they managed to make an actual True Earth map yet?

>>719894826
Right and Firaxis' last 3 releases were Marvel's Midnight Suns, X com Chimera and Civ 6.
Why are you talking about XCOM 2?

>>719891915
>Yeah, every single design decision that went into Civ VII was a disaster. Every. Single. One.
>I guess navigable rivers are okay as a concept.

I like the tweaks to the scout units to give them more abilities. Giving the units abilities beyond just move and attack is a solid premise. Making the goody huts and the city states give you little missions isn't a bad addition. I like some of the small tweaks, its the big changes that ruin the game.

>>719896584
You forgot the mobile version of Civ

>>719882039
>it tried to be a humankind clone
>it tried to be a game that failed miserably to be a Civ killer

>>719896872
>humankind sets out to be the civ killer
>it fails
>civ vii sets out to be a humankind clone
>kills itself
Poetic

>>719860089
>notice something
>"you are upset"
What is this? Gaslighting?

>>719896654
Oh shit so now it's Marvel's Midnight Sun, X-Com Chimera and Mobile Civ.
So two mediocre games and one I've never heard of.

>>719897081
And before Xcom 2 we had uhhhh, Sid Meier's Starships. I actually played that one, it's not great.

>>719893480
Alright thanks. I should try it out.
Makes it think of Fallout Tactics. Loved that game but I had to juggle between turn-based and real-time modes and both had some BS going on with it.

>>719895549
I don't think the civ switching mechanic is as big of a problem as people claim. The issue is that the game was released in a half-baked state and missing many basic features from the previous games in the series. The shitty UI, the lack of an endgame and the DEI leader choices didn't help matters either. People generally dislike change so if you're going to make some kind of significant changes to the core formula you need to ensure people really like the game outside of those changes so that they can eventually learn to enjoy or at least accept them. Releasing an incomplete mess that also has controversial changes is a recipe for a disaster.

>>719898628
"Build a civilization that will stand the test of time" was literally the tagline for the fucking series. Civ switching is going directly against the very concept of the game, of course people are going to be against it (rightfully so).

>>719829872
>need to make a new Civilization game
>instead, make a game that is not Civilization
I'm all for innovation, but they really fucked up, they changed fundamental mechanics. Like the pillars of the franchise.

They really should have launched it as a spinoff, not fucking Civ VII.

>>719898947

Well said.

>>719830983
She doesn't look black

>>719811087
Who is Lucy?

>>719824941
Charlemagne of Inca?

>Harriet Tubman
Come the fuck on

>>719824941
Why does he look like the burger king's depressed cousin?

>>719835765
dude squares lmao

>>719880414
No one would mind this one if they looked like tha

>>719900001
She's very cute, but
>flat

Catherine in V was fuckin STACKED, she was such a sexualized figure you could almost believe the horse rumors just by looking at her.

>>719808230 (OP)
I was loterally just looking to see if they had open positions a week ago (nope, just "talent pool").

>>719864142
how's Catherine a "relative nobody"?

>>719809989
Thelastsamurai.jpg

>>719900001
sexo

>>719900457
Also THE INVENTOR OF COMPUTER PROGRAMMING (not really) leading England

>>719900001
>bad game with shit designs has ONE great waifu
Why is this so common?

>>719898947
You're still doing that, it's just incorporating the way civilizations change over time, think the Roman empire eventually turning into Italy. It's not as fundamentally different as you're trying to make it out to be, but I get why people who were focused on the idea of using the same exact civ from start to finish would have issues with it. For me the gameplay aspect is more important and I liked how the civ switching addressed things like giving everyone access to unique features regardless of the phase of the game. In previous titles you could sometimes end up waiting very long before your civ actually came online, which also resulted in some balance issues due to how snowball heavy the game is since the civs who got their unique benefits early on were generally way better than those from the later eras. It's something a lot of players don't even realize due to how few actually end up finishing any of their games, which gives me the impression that the reception to the civ switching mechanic was largely determined by factors like that.

>>719808421
Never played it, but I remember that tranny autist from IGN absolutely savaging the game
Still gave it a 7, but what can you do, no one wants to get Gerstmann'd

>>719900758
>>719901421
>horse
qrd?

>>719901265
That's a nice model at least, unlike tubgirl

>>719808230 (OP)
They should fire everyone who is woke and maybe they have a chance of recovering.

>>719901737
After Catherine the Great died, a British satire magazine created a rumor that she died from having sex with a horse. Civ has had a few jokes referencing this over the years.

>>719812694
84558 at peak. I wonder how many of those faggots failed to secure a refund? LMFAO.

>>719901840
wow what an original post

>>719901881
All I know is civ 6 was the fastest I've seen deep discounts on.

Should've made XCOM 3

>>719896449
I feel like noticing Pangaea should have been the moment in the design phase where they realized their Exploration phase wouldn't work. Instead they forced it and now we have awkward delineated continents

>>719857180
Dropshadow would have also been bad because it''s not 2011 anymore. Any UI Designer, or Graphic Designer still using a dropshadow deserves to be shot, along side the person who worked on the ui in that image.

>>719841189
>>719840169
I liked chimera squad, I liked it a lot.

>>719824941
>CHARLEMAGNE of INCA in the EXPLORATION AGE
This shit literally reads like madlibs

>>719808230 (OP)

Can CIV 7 even be fixed? Could they get rid of the broken systems and go back to what Civ 5 and 6 did?

>>719900001
She cute

>>719900457
Still laughing that this was called the moment they announced "non-leader leaders". Of course they only did this to chase ESG/DEI/whatever metrics because the pool of world leaders is not shallow at all and doesn't need to be expanded to "lol anybody famous"

>>719841189
If they just leaned into the war criminal snake wife and polished up Xcom 2 they’d have had a success.

>>719906687
"Fixing" the systems would entail changing an extremely significant portion of the base game
And with these layoffs, I doubt either that or a Civ VIII is ever happening

The "just wait 3 years until the game is patched, all the DLC is out, and it's $20" Civ trend is probably over

>>719905695
it basically is, its randomizing leaders/civs/starting eras

>>719858907
It's funny you should say that
https://eras-and-allies-civilization.2k.com/

Last game they made that was worth a shit was XCOM2 and that was what, like a decade ago?
Studio can get shuttered for all I care with all those abysmal new civ games.

Best civ game? I only ever played 3,4,5 and revolution

>>719909614
smac

>>719909897
Oh, I did play that actually, just never finished.

>>719904857
Chimera Squad wasn't a bad game mechanically, it's just dragged down by the snowflake characters and setting that barely built upon the ending of 2

>>719827825
>guy behind the XCOM reboots
TIL he applied in the first place for his interest in XCOM
Pretty neat

>>719808230 (OP)
Good.
They deserve it after the shitshows that were Chimera squad and civ7.