Thread 719938203

ITT proof when devs definitely didn't playtest their games AT ALL

he is managable with dash. saw atrioc kill him early without the dash, he is in a world of hurt if he continues this path so early

>>719938203 (OP)
If I can beat him, you can beat him. Protip: don't get hit by his attacks.

>>719938203 (OP)
idgi, I killed this nigga on my second try without having a dash and it wasn't even hard I just had to be careful, how are people struggling with him?

>>719938291
You don't need the dash to kill him.

>>719938591
yeah but whats the point, next up is pain in the ass battle room and after that pain in the ass boss that would be really frustrating without good movement options

Using the "no two mask dsmage" mod and still getting dunked on. I am about to quit. I suck too much.

>>719938203 (OP)
>if he moves his legs then stand still because he's about to jump
>if he moves his sword then run away because he's about to swing
it's literally that simple holy fuck
and to top it off it's the same as the previous boss so that should be the first thing to pop in your mind
why are people so retarded

>>719938203 (OP)
Isn't that more of a proof of getting filtered? You are supposed to have dash to beat him, but you can just parry his ass and never get hit without it

Clash, nigga

>>719938856
>Using the "no two mask dsmage" mod
why is there even a mod specifically for that? why not just cheat?

There are ways to kill him
>parry
>lure him into the tunnel where he can't jump and can easily lock in a manageable tempo
>just git gud
>come back later with dash like you're supposed to

I did 2. I wouldn't really recommend. I also sort of don't think he's a fun fight even with dash, because you fight more of these guys and they're still not actually enjoyable with dash. Just tedious. I can say this about most of the bosses of the game, frankly. Tedious. Unfun. Upgrades don't make them less tedious or more fun.

>>719938856
youre already cheating just download a trainer and turn on god mode

it's not really that hard, you can tell what he's going to do based on his wind up animation. the actually annoying variant of this enemy is the one in hunter's march that is paired with a flying spear thrower

>>719939241
Is there even one yet?

>>719939302
yeah lol

>>719939241
Honestly can't say I agree. The 2 damage at all times is the issue. Bosses without any visible spikes or something that would hurt you doing 2 on contact damage or if they clip your model (because your entire fucking model is a hurtbox, even the very tips of your horn while some bosses have hurtboxes smaller than their models lma0) just isn't that fun. I'm MOSTLY fine with taking a boss attack to the face for 2, but I don't even think most enemies should have contact damage unless their whole shtick is flying into you or something. Not with how absurdly large Hornet's damage boundary is. Most games have your hurt area be 75-50% of the model when they have contact damage for a reason. It was way less notable in Hollow Knight because your model is way smaller.

>>719939369
>>719939439
Guess I'll just watch it on youtube at that point

>>719938203 (OP)
Just wait until you get to the twig bitch

>>719938203 (OP)
whats the problem, literally a 40 second fight

>>719938203 (OP)
I just got to this guy, definitely feels like a dash would make him manageable
>B-but you can do it without!
Don't care, want to have fun instead

literally just bounce on his head til he dies you can even do it when he jumps but if he jumps just go under him and hit him in the back
how is this so hard for you people
do you have broccoli heads?

>>719939561
And you didn't even use up all your resources available
Holy shit people are bad

>>719939575
If you think the game is fun so far, wait until you get to greymoor. Fun stops there.

>>719939665
Seems like people not recognizing when he's going to jump is the biggest filter for this boss. I realized it early and it was a breeze even without dash. Some people never realize it and just bash their head against a wall until they get good RNG.

>>719939680
that's my favorite area so far though
the birds are fun and interactive

>>719939561
The issue is this fight is fucking boring. The first boss of HK1 really mogs every boss I've found in SS so far in the most important metric. Fun-ness.

>>719939736
well fuck, i guess you will ctually beat it while I just watch a walkthrough in youtube.

>(OPTIONAL!!!!)boss with TWO(2!!!!) attacks, both telegraphed pretty clearly
>filtering millions

>>719939771
The gruz mother? What the actual fuck are you talking about?

>>719939771
You're joking, right? I finished HK1 last week and every boss was braindead easy. It only got challenging versus Radiance and the Pantheon DLC.

>>719939849
Is that the first one? I remember the big fat guy being the first boss. I think I remember fighting the mother either 2nd or 3rd.

>>719938591
I first tried him in the first arena, no idea how. I think I had dash but I dont recall. Felt like I cheesed him by using the hallways preventing his jump. He later kicked my ass when he teamed up with his flying buttbuddy despite me being slightly more upgraded. Did eventually get him though. Dash slash and dash away are the best ways to deal with him desu, but I can see how it's possible without it. You just gotta be quick and play close to the chest

>>719939680
You can cheese Moorwing

>>719939561
>Literally does 1-attack over and over
This is what silktards are calling difficult?

>>719939875
Difficulty and fun aren't necessarily correlated. Just watch that fight in the webm. Is that fun? Is that engaging? It's really boring and mostly non-interactive. It's 45 seconds long but half of that is just waiting, with the boss neither attacking nor the player having the opportunity to.

>>719939981
That's a cheese strategy retard
If you get good you can just pogo over him on one of his TWO attacks and run under him for the second of his TWO attacks.

>>719939981
>webm of someone cheesing a boss
>wow that looks boring
no shit

>>719938203 (OP)
>getting filtered
>by this guy.
Nigga they give you throwing knives in this game use them and be ready to move in when he jumps.

>>719939972
unironically millions are getting filtered by this baby ass gameplay, and some /v/tards have the gall to claim that mainstream gaming has become to sweaty

>>719940029
>>719940050
I think you guys need to look up what cheesing means because I don't think it means what you think it means. That webm is just fighting the boss normally. You'd fight them the exact same way with Dash except you'd have a slightly larger margin for safety.

>>719939972
he can leap too, for which you have to move towards him, but it seems like if you attack after his 2 sweeping attacks, or are close enough, he will never do it

>>719939561
This is exactly how I beat it easily after 2-3 tries of trying to parry everything, except I found that jumping away from him helped a bit more with the hitbox due to his swing being low to the ground.

>>719940120
The double fight in Hunter's March was kinda cancerous not gonna lie.

>>719940143
>baiting attacks
>abusing level geometry so he doesn't use one of his two attacks
>fighting normally
You can't be real

>>719939771
>The issue is this fight is fucking boring.
It's like the first or second boss, man. Miniboss, it's probably more accurate to call him. Either the fight is over and you move on, or the fight is "unfair" and you raise a stink. People who could beat him don't get upset.

>>719939561
so uh, how is this guy supposed to be hard?
>a double swing that you can bait out
>tunneling that gives a good tell for when he's surfacing
when i hear too hard, i think of that piece of shit called consort radahn or malenia.

>>719940224
>geometry abuse
i think its intentional. they even added a sprite when he bumps his head into the wall he cant pass through

>>719940143
That looks nothing like how I faced the boss. You're supposed to run underneath his jump attack in the open room.

>>719940224
>baiting attacks
This is called, basic gameplay. The NES had it.
>abusing level geometry
The level geometry put there by the devs? You think using intended mechanics and level design is cheesing? You don't think that's basic ass gameplay 101? Cheesing is doing shit where the boss can't hit you at all, using a glitch or otherwise trivializing the boss to the point. And that's why I complain about this fight, really. It's just not a very engaging fight. Even if you do it the "non cheese" way to stoop to your level. He spends most of the fight under fucking ground. Dunno what they have for this, but half the enemies either fly in an awkward spot making them hard to hit or just go unnaground where you can't hit them at all. It really slows the game down. A lot. Even beyond the fact that most enemies just take 6 hits to kill.

>>719940224
baiting attacks isn't cheesing, and the "abusing of the level geometry" will happen accidentally to most players encountering this enemy, it's there by design. It's like saying that going up the stairs against the capra demon or doing plunge attacks on the taurus demon in DS is a cheese

>>719939782
ew fucking kill yourself freak

>>719939561
Uhhhh unskilled bros, our response???

>>719940290
The funny thing is you're looking at a solution that someone spent a dozen tries to figure out. He's not that hard if you beat him normally, but people are bad at video games I guess.

>>719940224
>abusing level geometry
Next thing you'll say that it's abusing geometry when you are wall clinging against the Willow to dodge his ground attack

Holy fuck this guy is so fucking hard its impossible to beat him talk about artificial difficulty

>>719940437
Let's be real, you haven't even played the game because otherwise you'd know this is a tiny miniboss and would not be making this your hill to die on for how superior the first game is kek.

Imagine how much of an impassable wall this boss is going to be for normalfags.
And forget Widow, they'll never make it that far.

>>719939561
When I met that bost I asked /v/ros if I am supposed to fight him like that or its some "turn back" obstactle boss and anons told me to pretty much do sahe one punish on repeat.
Again we had posters having meltdown over Fourth Choir, the most basic bitch "I have to arms and I must slam" boss in the genre.
Like I get it you may be a bit unlucky with vertical slams but there was nothing difficult about either boss at all.

>>719940816
Ruh roh raggy, retard

>>719940902
oh so you're just retarded then, my mistake

>>719938203 (OP)
Git gud worthless nigga

>>719940931
I accept your concession

>>719938291
I killed him without dash, I found Dash much after he appeared. How was I supposed to know? That said, I do like that this game doesn't handhold you or streamline you much, it makes it interesting

>>719940867
I got this fucker second try, I would have beaten it first try if I knew you could break the ivy that traps you by just attacking it.

>>719940547
I beat him almost exactly the same way as in that webm on my second try (he only did the jump attack once or twice for some reason and you have plenty of time to heal back when he goes underground), playing like that is what feels natural to do when you don't have a dash since you have to constantly move away from his range

>>719938534
it took me 4 or so deaths with no tools or dash just to figure out the spacing and the tell between leap and swing. I don't see how people die more than once against him with a dash.

>>719941032
so that means quitting in greymoor isn't being such a loser, I am glad

>>719939561
>hit
>run
>wait for him swing to two times
>repeat
Fun

>>719938203 (OP)

so /v/ really is just bad at games

>>719941032
Yeah. Lace was fun, beat her first try by using a lot of movement options when I accidentally entered the fight not at full hp and without full silk. Bell Beast made me actually learn said movement to progress.

These other bosses? Fucking bullshit. Mostly because they're 3 strikes and you're out, Shellwood in general is just oppressive, significantly more annoying to traverse than Hunter's March and that place was painful without Dash.

>>719941032
the wall should be savage niggerfly
widow was a fucking joke compared to that rng input reading niggerfest

>>719940878
People are calling fourth hard? Are you serious? Fucking hell. I was getting nervous reading about how hard it was but seeing this thread and knowing that I'm not anymore.

>>719941212
I feel like flying enemies in general arent exactly satisfying to fight against in this game.

>>719940902
>7 hours
Is that supposed to mean anything? Hollow knight was boring until 15 hours in.

>>719941032
widow is a fucking joke
>literally 1 attack that matters which is super easy to dodge
>adds that die in 1 spear cast
I only died once and that was because I didn't expect her to have a hitbox when she gets stunned and falls on you.

>>719939561
i watched my friend first try kill this dude by pogoing on his head over and over what the fuck /v/?

>>719938203 (OP)
>people actually struggled with this
Literally just look at his windup for the jump. If he doesn't do that, walk away. If he does, run towards him and spam attack when he jumps over you. Didn't have dash or tools and beat him on the second try.

>>719938203 (OP)
Proof that Hollow Knight fans suck cock at games.

>>719941280
thats sister splinter
widow is the bell spiderbitch

>>719941032
>died many times to greywood bird, won eventually
>died once to splinter bitch, won 2nd try
I think you need to work on getting better. Try practicing!

>>719941234
I think not anymore but we clearly had people assmad about him for some unfathomable reason.
Again I dropped the rock because I thought it would be fun to do
Anons that went further early were completely right to be mad about retarded fly and other though, its not even boss difficulty itself but questionable bullshit that complements those fights. And I agree that a bit too many attacks do 2HP damage, it kind of takes away from those attacks being special.

>>719940816
>realizes anon has a point so he resorts to adhoms as a last ditch attempt to boost his ego by tearing anon's down
Why are git gud fags like this for every game like this? I swear you can never have any discussion about actual game design for these type of games because there's always some fag with their entire self value on the line for it swearing that you're just a shitter for pointing out some slight flaw

>>719941369
By retarded fly are we talking about beast? The ads are fucking annoying, I'll admit

>>719941280
Widow is a very fun and fair fight. Her stages are the same except she attacks faster and faster and you're constantly moving around the arena.
So far the boss that gave me the most trouble was Savage Beastly because it spawns so many adds lmao.

>>719941032
Holy shit HK fans are bad at games

>>719941032
>No beast chapel

>>719941032
>people unironically need to cheese bosses like the bird and sister splinter
holy shit wait until these retards fight final judge

>>719941269
Tell me your balls hadn't yet dropped in 2015 without telling me your balls hadn't yet dropped in 2015

>>719939771
HK1's early fights as well as that one are just boring to me

>>719938203 (OP)
If anything this is the one mini-boss that proves they did. If you fight him without a dash, and are swinging in his face, you have JUST enough time to jump away, because the first hit is a low sweep. This happened probably ten times to me when I fought him, felt good, felt like intentional game design, and well tested hitboxes.

>>719939960
Im stuck here.

>>719938203 (OP)
???
Just hit him and dash away when he winds up?

>>719939561
This is what casual babbys like OP were crying about?

>>719938203 (OP)
It took me like 6 tries of fighting him before I basically took no damage and beat him without dash by doing quick turn around downward aerial strikes. Just do quarter circles and A. It's not complicated.

>>719941420
Yeah, that one. Besides obvious later contenders everyone pointed out this one of the first fights I found really annoying to do for reasons besides "yeah I coul've done XYZ better."

>>719939561
>1 hit and fuck off
wowio zowie this is just like my darks soulerinos

>>719941032
I dont remember a bird in Greymore?

>>719940986
>doesn't handhold you
It's called garbage level design. In games that are actually good, it's obvious when you're going in the wrong direction.

>>719941673
how dare the game not have an arrow constantly telling you where to go

>>719941673
>In games that are actually good, it's obvious when you're going in the wrong direction.
Is there such thing as a wrong direction if later on after you advance further into the Hunter's area, all areas except bottom can't be traversed to even with cheesing, leading you to getting the Dash upgrade? If anything, it feels aptly designed

>>719938203 (OP)
Get dash before fighting him lol. You need dash in the area afterwards anyway

>>719939771
retard spotted

>>719941032
holy fuck the sister is a bitching point, too? I didn't even have the weapon upgrade when I fought her. Unironically there are basic enemies that are harder holy shit

>>719941510
this, it's an enemy that makes you understand you probably need better movement options for that area but he's also designed to be perfectly beatable with zero power ups. It's simple but well executed game design

Hey so where are all these supposed “tools” being hidden?
I just got to Bellhart and I haven’t found a single one

>>719941032
widow is one of the easiest bosses, first phase she should really never hit you since her balls are aimed where you were like a second earlier. dash attack destroys her. second phase just hug the right wall and she will never hit you. splinter should never hit you either honestly, just silk spear the adds immediately and use the fire tool from deep docks for insane damage

>>719941869
I found one just near the guy in OP, an area above or below it I can't remember

>>719941869
You can buy some from the Forge Daughter.

>>719941650
sorry that mashing attack is the only thing your brain can handle

>>719938203 (OP)
I cheesed him my first encounter.
Hit him a few times and run away to bait his tunnel. He tunnels and pops up next to you. Repeat.

>>719941851
Pretty much. I found dash after fighting him and though 'yeah that fight would've been easy with dash', then I found out I could've had dash in that fight.
You can bitch about a lot of things in this game but level design isnt that.
If anything I feel like I have less backtrack points compared to other games in the genre? I have few walljump points marked but thats pretty much it. Usually at that stage there is
>some barely out of reach double jump bullshit
>breakable floors
>walljumps
>some hook shit
in every zone after first one so you have to backtrack trough every zone 10 times

>like reviewing games since I've been literally playing them my whole life
>post SS review (full score) but with honest criticisms
>mostly dislikes
Why are people such cry baby faggots? Everyone nowadays refuses to listen to others and just goes off of their own headcanons

>>719939970
Worse. You can accidentally delete him.

>>719939561
>/v/tards lost to THIS?
Lmao

>>719942094
I've been warned about that one.
I should not finish fleas before I fight said boss or I am locked out, right?
It is kind of retarded, to be honest.

>>719941886
Fire weapon?

>>719942094
I was wondering why I couldn't remember him?

See this guy? He's so rich he uses the currency of the realm to whip poor people to death.
He's basically Team Cherry curshing indie devs

I always hated the fact that every 2d game, at the least the ones you have combat and is not jumping like Mario, they put a fucking hit box just for getting close to an enemy. Fuck that's retarded, just make actual attacks do dmg to you and if that's too easy just make a bigger moveset for the enemies

>>719939439
>Cheating for fucking Solitaire

>>719942296
Truth

>>719942302
Trvke

>>719938203 (OP)
I just beat the game and it felt much easier than the first hollow knight. I killed the last boss in 7 tries and i didnt even fully upgrade my weapon and barely completed any boring sidequest.

>>719938203 (OP)
i beat him without the dash
i must say everything in this game feels more blueballsy and frustrating though
hornet hitbox is really big
lots of gated exploration like "here you can get this thing, but not now"
here is a bench/travel but oops you have to pay money guess you cant use it

>>719942090
Reviews are only used to confirmation bias and to inflate their Ego, if your reviews goes against that, you will see hate

>>719942514
Lot of dodging and weaving which gets old when your fighting them for the 10th time becuase theres an obstacle course after. Sinners road is not fun.

>>719938203 (OP)
Use. The. Arena.
This is Silksong, not Hollow Knight 1. Don't just facetank and/or pogo everything.

>>719938291
I just stayed on the left side, where he can't do his jump attack. Was super easy. I thought it was supposed to be a boss where you have to use the environment to your advantage. I didn't even know there was a dash.

>>719940867
>>719941032
do people just not know that you can make sister splinter kill her own adds?

>>719942189
It's behind a simple lock in deep docks, pretty worth it imo

>>719938291
I killed him with the daggers from the nearby bench and without dash

>>719942710
FUCK

>>719938203 (OP)
I just jumped on his head 10 times in a row and he dropped dead, it took less than 20 seconds.

The glazing dick sucking for these games is the worst I have ever seen. Just the most dick slurping fan base ever. Can't have a single critical thought about these games without their devoted trannytroon resetera fan base coming in to defend everything. I shan't be playing it

>>719938203 (OP)
HEY OP DON'T WORRY, THE BEST PART IS YET TO COME!
>flying
>deals two damage if it even touches you
>Huge in a small arena, that means you could easily -2 health while trying to dodge the other shit
>spawns random minions
>spawns FLYING minions
>spawns ELITE FLYING minions
>Your reward? The most garbage upgrade of BOTH games
HAVE FUN!

>>719938203 (OP)
I beat him after a few tries before having the dash. how retarded are you faggots? I'm not even that good at games but this game isn't THAT hard, you just have to pay attention to their movements and timing.

It makes zero sense that hunters march didn't have a gap that required you to dash float. You can get their 2/3 of it without either upgrade then you get assfucked by traps that expect you to have sprint then you just hit a wall because having glide is mandatory.

>>719942851
HM is the blightown of Silksong

>>719938203 (OP)
They even gave you a tunnel to disable his jump attack, ngmi.

>>719942843
You forgot to mention the backtrack between the bench and the boss when you die. And the platform hell you need to even get the access to the boss.

>>719942843
This one took me 10 tries but the solution I found was pretty simple, though I wish I had those floating spike traps the smith sells. Just save your spear for the adds, it makes it way easier. The actual boss moveset is very simple. Was pretty annoying though I will admit, and your reward for it is a pretty shitty crest.

>>719942710
I feel like such a fool blowing my key on the worms when I realizes there was another way in. I'm sure I'll find another key soon enough, but I lost the coin flip for sure

The game would be significantly better without contact damage. I think that's just a general fact for most games.

>>719938203 (OP)
This asshole filtered me for a good while, only time I questioned why everything does 2 mask worth of damage

then he summons more ads as the fight goes on

>>719939561
THIS is the boss /v/ has been crying about nonstop for days?

>>719941145
always was

mmm mmm mmm MMM SHALLOW

>>719940224
>baiting attacks
>abusing level geometry so he doesn't use one of his two attacks
That is, quite literally, what you are supposed to do. Like, the tunnel is there so you can use it to your advantage.

>>719942710
>>719942950
Man how do you even get so much money to get the key from the merchant at the start? Do you guys just don't buy any of the maps/map upgrades?

>>719943039
If you do the quest that pops up a little after the start where you get 10 cloth, you get like $240 which adds up with the money you got from killing them.

>>719938203 (OP)
God i love it when devs put a filter for retards early on in the game. Its sekiros ogre all over again lmao
The guy has literal 3 attacks which are clearly choreographed, you dont even need a dash, just go under him when he jumps.

>>719941975
That is not cheesing, you're playing the game normally

>>719943097
Oh I already did that, I must have spend it on something else then I guess

>>719938203 (OP)
>just watched my little brother kill Phantom as his 4th boss, got parry out of it
>somehow backdoored Act 2 in the process
>get back on 4chan
>half of the posts I see here are people bitching about getting filtered

>>719941405
It's not a good point. And even if it were, it'd be cherry picking at best. Who the fuck writes entire paragraphs about how a game sucks because of a singular miniboss they spent 40 seconds on? Answer me this.

>>719941032
>Sister Splinter
>hard
/v/...
If you're having difficulty, just use your spear against the thorns and the adds she summons.

>>719942908
There is a bench 2 rooms over. You can literally drop then run straight to its room.

Sister Splinter gives people trouble? The beast fly or whatever was infinitely harder

>>719943254
S-sorry Anon
I'm so clumsy uwu

>>719943204
there are more fit anons on /fit/ than competent gamers on /v/, that's how bad things are on this board

>>719941476
At least I'm not 30 and playing video games without a wife and child. Think about that.

>>719938321
Yeah no shit.

"Here's a tip to beating the boss: Hit it till it dies and don't get hit."

Is there a way to get captured if I killed the guard in Hunter's March?

>>719943039
I buy all the map shit, its trinkets I suffer on. I didnt buy it at the start, though. Maybe not until like my third bell? Can't remember for sure.

Did I miss out on the Greymoor bird? I took the flea ride and I’ve been in this area for an hour and I’ve seen no bird.

>>719943353
It really is that easy

>>719943354
Yeah, I got captured doing a quest in greymoor

>>719938203 (OP)
More like proof that you fucking suck
>>719939561
You could've just pogo'd him
>>719943028
Yes LMAO

>>719943329
Sounds like a cucked life lmaooo

>>719942926
so the one on the left in bone bottom is definitely a spider door, but what about the one on the right in deep docks?

Ok this boss was old-school tough. Donkey Kong Country Ninja Gaiden tough.

>>719943028
Worse, it's a mini boss. It doesn't even have its own title.

brainlets will never figure this one out because it's locked behind the classic
>secret wall
>into optional area
>into puzzle
the boss is kinda easy though because you can make it trivial with the hunter crest dash attack
still tedious tho
as a tradefoff it lets you skip both blasted waste and bilewater, taking you straight to the citadel lmaooo

>>719942843
I use the spell that makes you deal AoE damage around you. I cleared the adds as soon as they spawned and the boss was super easy as a result. Died 3 or 4 times to it.

>>719943463
reminded me of a couple Jak fights with those explosive rocks on the ceiling

>>719943463
who's gonna tell him that was literally the easiest boss in the game?

>>719939561
>boss has 10x range as you
Hollowcucks thinks this game is fire?

>>719943512
You just solved it for me. The turtle ALWAYS wins.

>>719942843
>only has 2 moves

>>719943539
N-NOOO JUST HAVE TO PARRY YOU JUST HAVE TO WALK BACK YOU JUST HAVE TO HIDE YOU JUST HAVE TO BAIT HIM NOOOO AIIEEEEEEEEE

>>719938856
>no two mask damage mod
What? Just learn your enemies. No shame in dying if you bother to learn.

weavers kinda bullshit homie.

>>719943534
No the easiest was the first one and the one against the white woman. This one has bullshit untelegraphed attacks and screen clutter, plus a gimmicky finisher you just gotta guess the solution to.

>>719938203 (OP)
That would be the runback for the toxic swamp boss. I am literally losing my mind.

These games are overrated as shit. Horribly fucking cringe fanbase.

>>719943463
Bro >>719942843 is literally harder than him.

>>719938856
wanna know why? theres hardly invuln frames after you get hit, so you can get .5 seconds right after

So far the roaring knight from deltatroon chapter 3 was harder than anything.

>>719943585
JUST GIT GUD ANON
YOU SUCK
JUST GIT GUD ANON
YOU SUCK
JUST GIT GUD ANON
YOU SUCK
JUST GIT GUD ANON
YOU SUCK
JUST GIT GUD ANON
YOU SUCK
JUST GIT GUD ANON
YOU SUCK
JUST GIT GUD ANON
YOU SUCK

>>719943463
this boss was a lot of fun. i liked taking advantage of when he lowers his head to pogo the shit out of it as he attacked nothing on the stage.

>>719943391
i came back later in the game for a sidequest and bird showed up

>>719943629
Really dude? I just used the grenade from the worm tunnels and bombed it. It’s only one use but it basically skipped the 3rd and 4th stagger. Only took me 17 tries, easy as fuck.

just lost 650 rosaries and 100% of my will to keep playing this game. completely fucking unnecessary bullshit fucking mechanic.

>>719939561
>let me just manipulate for the perfect rpg where he doesn't jump attack me with the narrow tunnel nice

>>719943715
Should have bought the key retard

>>719943551
you won't make it anon, sorry, it's the chad loremaster path only

>>719943715
There’s really silksong players here who’ve never played a souls game?

>>719943674
kek i dont even know her name im just parroting people sayin they have a hard time with the boss
its the one that throws bells right?

>>719941627
Went and beat him after a break. Definitely cancer but not a game ender.

>>719943757
Hornet upskirt!

>>719942695
I just used the AoE spell to instant kill them when they popped up. The adds are only an issue the first time you fight her IMO.

>>719943757
Where is this?

>>719943748
I was literally about to go buy the key but then I found a new area (hunters march) that i started exploring, had no idea it was going to be total fucking bullshit loaded with traps, spikes, pogo jumps and bullshit flying creatures.

>Broken kindom theory was real
What the FUCK

Uhhh
What am I supposed to do to this puking retard?

>>719942843
Just fight him when you have sprint. Makes the run back a breeze too.

>>719943795
in the exhaust organ
good luck

>>719943836
Rush through
If you wanna kill it, hide under the final ledge then just jump up and up slash once before going back down. Takes a bit to kill and it’s not worth it except for hearing it die.

>>719943706
Oh how surprising, you skipped it and when you came back to it you used an item from a later area and you found it easy as fuck? Wow, good for you!
How the fuck did you expect anyone to take you seriously when you say shit like "oh it was easy" and the say it took you 17 fucking tries? What, do you take on average 40+ tries for each boss?

>>719943715
Oh boy now the disgusting glazing fambase of this game is going to give you shit for not wanting to play through this boring shit anymore. This game is the same shit as Undertale. The more I hear about faggots sucking it off, the less I will ever want to play it

>>719943761
experience in souls games is easy to come by. in fact they give you TOO much of it. rosaries are fucking retardedly scarce. It would legit take me probably 3 hours of grinding to get back what I lost. Im fucking livid and might actually drop this game. and I was enjoying it immensely before this

>equip warding bell
>surely it will be like baldur shell where it blocks small projectiles and the heal goes thru
>currently in the "finding out" stage of fucking around and finding out

>>719943836
Kill it. It's got like a 2 second spew, you have enough of a window to hit it once or twice before repeating the process for a minute or two.

>>719943463
its got something for everyone

>>719943761
I play soulslop despite it's shitty currency mechanic not because of it.
But a 2D game with it? Instant shit game

>>719943836
keep running left to right and hiding under the platforms after you get your hits in (you can hit 4-5 times per cycle)
very easy once you find the rhythm to it

>>719938203 (OP)
I just rolled credits, but I'm 99% sure that I massively fucked up

>>719943874
This is a hard game dude. Easy is 17 tries. It’s hardcore. Wanna know a hard boss? Try Soul Tyrant, a boss that took me weeks to kill.

Beast add spam is retarded and RNG on that is also kind of insane.
Is it HP based? Just caused 2 summons in a row.

>>719938203 (OP)
skill issue

>>719940986
>How was I supposed to know?
Did you think
>hmm im playing a metroidvania and this enemy this is clearly designed around some sort of dash is guarding a specific area that isnt on the current path, surely thats just a coincidence

i attempted this once but theres so much shit that i dont even know what happened.
doesn't help the runback is gay aids

Games great, about 15 hours in. Just had my first few attempts against the boss before citadel. Haven't hit any major roadblocks, anons IIT are like the PS3. I was happy to see that there are a lot of different routes, I think I gave my friend a stroke when he found out I made it through the wastes with diagonal jump + only dash and wallclimb.


>>719942090
Why are you reviewing a game you haven't beaten yet? What are you some fucking IGNigger? Play the fucking game.

>>719943884
How do you ever play video games if people being faggots about one is enough to keep you from playing it? Everything I have ever played, I have seen people being complete faggots about.

epic dark souls reference
BRAVO TEAM CHERRY
B
R
A
V
O

Does the dash ever receive iframes like the original or is it just useless shit forever

>>719941369
Four Chorus sucks because he can effectively hit you for 4 masks at once and his last phase slams don't really line up with the areas of map he actually takes away sometimes. Not really hard, but he's tanky and can cheese you with a 4 damage hit if you fuck up.

>>719943892
>It would legit take me probably 3 hours of grinding to get back what I lost.
You can probably do it in like 30 minutes at most, there's a bench with two pilgrim fucks by it that drop 5 each very early on.

>>719943974
hollow knight has the same corny fanbase as undertale and sonic.
i think the next fanbase up there would have to be fnaf

they all happen to be games i avoid playing

I'm still trying to figure out which part of this game took eight years to make

>>719941032
>all these poeple complaining about the greywood bird
Am i the only one that misse dout on it because o foudn all the fleas first? God what a gay mechanic LET ME FIGHT THE BIRD TEAM CHERRY

>>719944068
Hornet dialogue

>>719943968
same, but you can start from the central shellwood bench and go thru the wall by the elevator
you just gotta dodge 2 twig bois and thats it, runback takes 30s tops

>>719944068
They fought aboriginals in the Australian desert for 6 of those years.

>oh want you to rest? thatll be 30 shekels
>oh you want a fucking map for this enormous labyrinthe of a game? 80 shekels
>oh teehee there was another bench right next to the paid one thats free? shucks
>oh you want to open this fast travel spawn? 60 shekels
>oh you want to enter this vendors shop? 30 shekels
>oh you want to go BACK to the vendor? teehee thatll be ANOTHER 30 shekels
>oh you want tools? 200 sheks
>oh btw we are barely going to give you any money to find and only a third of enemies will have them, and only 5 each

HOLY FUCK JUST FUCKING KILL ME

>>719938203 (OP)
I beat him on about 5th attempt. There's a bench about 5 seconds away. Lure him into the corridor you came in through and that takes away his jump. Not that hard. Skill issue

there is no legitimate reason for boss walkbacks other than the dev being a blowhard, if there's a walkback more annoying than the last judge, im going to shit myself

>>719944019
Four Chorus is the most fair boss in the game you dumb fuck, that's why he does a lost of damage if you are stupid enough to get hit by his very telegraphed attacks.

>>719944071
No I did too. I found the last flea in shellwood as I was dirt broke and couldn’t afford the bench, died from the pollen, then spawned back down in bone bottom and didn’t bother going back up since I only had like 20 dollars.

>>719944094
yeah its just the wall cling jump off the elevator to the wall to get the ledge is weird and im already tired. its 1 am.

>>719944060
Doesn't hurt me man, I'm just forever curious about the mindset. I hate video game "communities." All of them. I'd never be able to play a game with that outlook is all.

>>719944068
They had to construct a swimming pool and fill it with dollarydoos, then swim it in for a couple years until it got boring.

>>719944021
PLEASE give me a screenshot of what area you are talking about

>>719944105
>kill rat
>drops humanity

>>719943990
they havent even heard of dark souls bro!! they are so cool and above it all and just happened to rip off 20 different ideas from dark souls

>>719944145
What telegraph? Oh you mean his delayed attacks, like Margit? Got it. Artificial difficulty.

Anyone know another way to get captured?

I killed the guy south of Hunter's mark and he's not respawning

>>719944157
playin videogames and sharing the experience is nice. i was there for dark souls before pc came out and it was the most pleasant fun discussion.
then pc came out and the git gud faggots came out and now it has tarnished a lot of the soulslop le hard games ever since

>>719939561
>beat this guy without dash
>job to the red bouncy orbs for a while
>get a hang of it
>go across the long ant room
>get a hang of it
>do the fight with vendor lady
>decide to turn back there after finishing that fight
I made a huge mistake bros. I was basically at the dash unlock.

>>719944140
HahahaHAHAHAHAHAH

ten bucks for the opportunity to dunk Hornet in the piss flea bath

>>719944205
You are such a retarded gorilla, I'm done talking to you.

>>719944021
>just kill two enemies, run back to the bench, then do it 64 more times

fuck my shitty gay fucking life that im going to actually do this

>>719944068
Uhhhhh the citadel is reeeeeealy big okay

>>719944205
You joke but I got smacked by his hand swipe once because of how ludicrously slow the windup is. but unlike margit, the swipe itself is slow as shit so it was just funny as fuck

>>719943761
funny thing about buge games is, whenever you're about to die or can't find the way back to a bench, unlike Souls games quitting and restarting teleports you out of a boss fight back to the bench. except in some areas

>>719943968
She has like 5 moves anon.
>vertical bell
>diagonal bell
>a lot of vertical bells
>bells from the ground
>swipe attack

>>719939439
This man cheats at solitaire. Look at him, look at him and laugh.

>>719942843
>your reward? all the beads you had when you entered the room for the first time
:(

>>719944105
i enjoy the combat difficulty immensely (less so the platforming but it's manageable), but goddam the Act 1 money route is fucking aids. if they just made monsters drop like 2-3 beads, that alone would make a huge difference, but the fact that there are entire areas in the game that only have like 3 enemies total that can drop beads is very frustrating

>>719944218
say it aint so bro

I couldn't protect her smile :(
>the scared and impassionate singing

>>719944208
There's always going to be pleasant people, of course, but faggotry eventually seeps its way in. Anyway, hope you have fun with whatever you're playing anon.

>>719943892
you can get like 30 per minute or better going right out of halfway home and killing the 3 pilgrims

>>719944286
You forgot the diagonal swipe and then the horizontal swipe. She also sweeps on the bells from ground one.

>>719944226
Hornet shouldn’t bathe
her slender black shell should be caked in the dried haemolymph of her enemies

>>719941032
>taking the time to make this chart to publicly humiliate yourself

if you're cheesing Moorwing or any boss you're missing the point of the game..

sister splinter was one of the easiest bosses in the game..

remember to use your tools, /v/ - they're as good if not better than spells

>>719943974
Hollow Knight attracts the same exact people as Undertale. Like, actual faggots.

>>719944105
nothing in life is free, kid

>>719943836
just run past him,the "reward" for killing him is 130 shards. not even remotely worth it

>lost 300 beads to artificial difficulty
Yeah nah this aint it chief. If it doesn't get any easier then honestly I don't think I'm going to even bother beating it. Such a letdown. The game obviously doesn't respect my time.

>>719944328
There's a fakeout bench near the boss that puts you in the water
falling in the water infects you with constant silk drain that requires an entire channel to get rid of
it's filled with difficult parkour and traps and enemies which pop out of nowhere, shoot at you, then disappear
the boss has 5 waves of normal enemies before you can even start it
I am literally losing my mind. I have done this obstacle course 5 times and I have died 2 more times after getting tilted and I am going to stop playing for tonight
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Anyone else think this game is dark woke?

>>719941032
Sister Splinter is actually easy if you just get the threadstorm.

>>719939206
The mods abused that to add 'difficulty'. same as the combo attacks which can deal 3/4 hp. and you don't have recovery invulnerability ONLY on those attacks, if you take contact damage you don't get another tick of damage for another 800ms at least.

what do you get for finding all the fleas

I have 4 of them and Im wondering if I should torture myself trying to find the last before moving on

>>719944068
Nothing. I could've made a similar game in 6 months. Just make gay bugs and have them fight with shitty poorly telegraphed attacks, make the game really fucking hard to pad game length, pay an Indian to draw backgrounds and then upscale them with A.I., and then make sure the game is just ambiguous enough that trannies will identify with it. Boom, there you go. You made a Hollow Knight game

>>719944286
>>719944367

>>719941212
>input reading
Because it adjust its flight height based on you? You realize how easy that is to manipulate, right?

>>719942843
the adds arent that much of a problem. dont focus on them. the boss can actually one-hit kill his own adds with his ground pound attack, so you better hope they line up
this boss is not that hard, took me like 4 or 5 tries

>>719944187
I think it's the bench by the druid bitch in mosshome. The enemies should be to the left of it, there's probably much better farming locations later on but this is available almost as soon as you start the fucking game.

Where do I get the double jump?

>>719941032
The fuck? I literally beat sister splinter on the second try. The bird I sorta get lmao but how the fuck is she challenging at all?

>>719944478
It saves time. There's more than the 7 it asks for though.

>>719944478
Last one is hidden behind a breakable wall

>>719944498
Past the slab on the icy mountain, you have to parkour on a timer for it

>>719944374
ive never had to farm souls games. i remember when people had to farm blood vials and i laughed at the idea
but this? i feel like im gonna have to eventually farm bone shards my dude. i dont want to have to do that.

>>719944492
>this boss is not that hard, took me like 4 or 5 tries
Bullshit. When he starts spamming adds, there's nowhere to go between you, him, the other flying faggots, and the one that shoots out spikes

>>719944105
he won

>>719944538
Oh.
I forgot that I could actually do something there after getting the grappling thing.

>>719944478
theres a lot more than what the quest requires.
you get a shortcut to the end of greymoor to the left, and it skips that boss or whatever is there. i dont know thats what i heard. it takes you right in front of bellharts start.

>>719944427
i cant marathon this game and have to keep taking breaks, i either get too mad or my palms sweat, i might be too old for what you just described

>>719944145
I have at least once had him slam the right side of the arena only for the middle of the arena to fall out under me so I don't know about fair unless that's a rare oddity.
I don't see him as being hard in anyway, just a boring long fight.

>>719944505
>getting fucked up by the adds because all flying enemies in this game have to be dumb and bait you before smashing into you
>you can't even parry because the spin lasts multiple parries
>takes two whole traps to kill one of them
>silkspear is near useful because you're trying to heal and hit at the same time so you only get one shot
>if you miss then you'll get blended trying to maneuver between vines and not just one but two blenders

>>719944105
>that 1 spot where you have to pay for the bench AND fast travel unlock separately

Kek'd at the jewishness

>>719944538
imagine they just balanced the game having all the power ups, including bosses before you even get the power ups
because they are out of their fukcin mind with some of these.

>>719944494
Ok thanks, I'm gonna try to farm enough for the key once I get back to the game

>>719944105
greymoor halfway house has a 30 shekel group of mobs to the immediate right that you can instakill with the silk spear, takes like 30 seconds there and back from the bench to respawn them
i'm not autistic enough to grind it for more than 10 minutes but it gave me enough to buy out all the maps i was missing

>>719944616
yeah that was my issue. i ended up using the spike trap item for most of that fight. sometimes shit comes down to rng with these fights.

my victory kill felt like i was perfect but i knwo its because the boss decided not to do his FULL AREA vine bullshit more than two times

>>719944641
I play literally every game on the hardest difficulty and I found silksong to be a very engaging experience, which means its too hard for the average player. Took me like 15 hours to beat the game (in the same way someone might rush the hollow knight and get the default ending), 100%ing it is proving even harder mostly in terms of parkour. I have not had to try more than 5 times on any boss and never had to go upgrade and try again later on any of them.

>>719944105
>oh you want to enter this vendors shop? 30 shekels
This one was really funny. I paid the 30 shekels to open the door but decided to go explore the rest of the place first, the door closed as soon as I got 3 steps away. I then paid another 30 shekels to go in, only to see that I couldn't afford any of the shit he was selling.
I ended up farming a bunch of shekels nearby, paid the final 30 shekels, and bought everything.
I got jewed out of 90 shekels for a pair of weights.

>>719941032
Beat Greymoore bird second try.
Beat Sister Splinter first try, didn't even get down to one shot remaining.
I think you're just bad. This game isn't that difficult.

The best thing about Silksong releasing is I can shit all over it at every given opportunity, just like I did with the first one. Want an idea of what type of people play Hollow Knight? Go to the Steam reviews of Silksong and look at the negative reviews that came from people that actually played the game, and actually have legitmate complaints. See how these "fans" react to someone have actual genuine negative feedback. Fucking disgusting abhorrent tranny tier behavior. Fuck Hollow Shite. Fuck it's fans. Fuck you.

>>719944712
uh huh maybe the game was meant for autists like you.

where do I use the key you purchase in the starting village? also, FUCK the fucking enemy gauntlet in greymoor HOLY SHIT THESE FLYING FAGGOTS ARE SO ANNOYING THE GUY WHO THROWS KNIVES CAN FUCKING RAPE MY ASSHOLE FUCK YOU TEAM CHERRY what do I even get for beating it is it even fucking worth my time

>>719944478
It lets you skip the bird everyone is bitching about. Dont be a pussy fight the bird

>>719944749
yeah i have an easy time with the game after i see someone beat the boss first too

>>719944641
>Game is so vast and filled with all kinds of shit that most playtesting is done with a dev mode that has everything enabled for fast traversal on maps and testing for bugs/glitches.
Sounds plausible. Expecially if they focused the bulk of the testing on the latter half of the game for obvious reasons (progression blocks, softlocks etc...)

>>719944770
Yeah they should just make two difficulties, one for people who autism maxx and already mastered the first game, and the other for whiney /v/ users and dads with 3 kids

>>719944712
>I beat this game that literally came out a day ago in 15 hours
Lmao what a fucking LOSER. Try getting a job and a gf, buddy. Playing shitty metroidvanias where you play as a trans bug wont get you any pussy. Maybe lift some weights

>>719944804
Go to the chapel to the left

>>719944804
DONT NOT USE IT ON THE DOOR IN THE TOP LEFT ITS LEAD TO A SHITTY AREA YOU CAN ACESS A BIT LATER. Use it on the door in the deep docks for a cool weapon instead

>>719944804
I used it on the door in deep docks and I have to say it was not worth it at all
fucking flying assholes throwing bombs at me
fatass enemies that can literally climb thru walls and don't ever lose aggro
0/10 would not do again

>>719938203 (OP)
if you cant beat something go to another area you stupid fuck, in this case you are 99% missing the dodge ability

>>719944883
Huh. I found the one that leads to the swamp wheres the other one

Why did they do it?

>>719944712
I don't understand how people enjoy rushing through a game like this as fast as possible just to beat it. The only time it makes sense is if you want to make money off the video of your playthrough on youtube or something.

I'm literally going to explore everything I can

>>719939561
It's Margit all over again

>>719944840
or maybe a proper metroidvania with a smoother progression system.
and not calling it a sequel when in reality its like a post hollow knight 1 dlc where the difficulty feels like it left off from the end game there

sorry your jank dogshit game isn't that polished. i guess it makes you feel good to be good at a shit niche game

>Only 6% if the players have reached the city
It's that grim huh.
Also.
>Die to the boss
>Have to go through THE ENTIRE FUCKING ZONE to reach her again
They are very stingy with the benches.

Bros im in the chaple now. I didnt explore the worm fuck caves or the swamp past sinners road fully. Am i missing anything by saving them for later

>>719944952
>Why did they do it?
because you heal 3 dumbass.

>>719944717
kek this one is the most bullshit, it feels like an oversight. same thing happened to me but i only got scammed once.
>pay for the door to open
>move away SLIGHTLY
>door fucking closes
>have to pay again

>>719944954
I didn't really rush, I just wanted to beat the final boss while it was still a challenge since I didn't have much gear. I already knew from hollow knight 1: the original that I can immediately go back and play the rest of the game.

>>719944804
The golden knife throwing guys are easy once you understand their angles. Another way to cheese them is just stay under them until they land. Once they land, they only attack you have to watch out for is the horizontal knife.

yeah i think im done. this game is brimming with bad game design and that is literally the only thing making it hard. I'm honestly not even having fun anymore, hell it feels like half the time I was more frustrated than anything. Call me filtered all you want. I just want to spend my time on something I'm actually enjoying. such a letdown.

>>719944952
6 masks + the breakable mask that saves you from death feels so good and you can get them very early

>>719944717
There's a gear inside you can just break to keep the door open.

>>719944990
>its like a post hollow knight 1 dlc where the difficulty feels like it left off from the end game there
Margit is harder than Gwyn

>Leave to go turn in a quest
>Trap guy where map lady was RIGHT by Savage Niggerfly

What the fuck why

>>719944993
Honestly? I forgive Team Cherry. I can do this platforming easy peasy now except for when the fly decides to get in my way towards jumping over the bell.

the movement and combat feels better in this game but the difficulty curve and upgrade allotments are completely fucking fucked

this was NOT a problem in hk. felt like a perfect smooth progression start to finish. I shouldnt be as far as I am without a single fucking nail or health upgrade.

>>719945053
Huh cool, I don't know how I could miss that. Atleast I found the secret to defuse the bench in the ant area

>>719945125
You'll miss it because you can only see it when the door is open.

>>719945069
margit can be tackled anytime after you progress an open world
you are being a little faggot about shit because you have no good argument

>>719945023
ok now how do I cheese that piece of shit AND the sword bird cunt at the same time cause its driving me insane

>>719945053
Nice try but I'm not gonna get jewed out of another 30 shekels

>>719945149
>you are being a little faggot about shit because you have no good argument
Sequels build upon the previous game you little ninny bitch.
Birdo is harder than Bowser.

>>719945125
>Huh cool, I don't know how I could miss that. Atleast I found the secret to defuse the bench in the ant area
Team Cherry possibly being a little bit too clever for their own good on that one.

>>719945157
Throw a bunch of traps and pray one of them dies. If possible, target the knife guy because the sword bird guy mainly attacks on the ground, but he'll fly into you if you let him.

explain me lore nerds why bugs went past the capital with hornet?

are you guys complaining about the savage beastfly you fight in the chapel or the one you have to kill for the quest in belfast iirc, i havent tried that one yet.

>Have to pay for every bench
>Have to pay for every quick travel station
>Have to pay everytime I want to enter a house
>Sometimes you pay for nothing (haha gottem, you wasted your rosaries :) )
>Later you have to pay for EACH USE of a bench
Did EA build this kingdom or something?

>>719945240
It's the bell beast Dunkey complained about
Y'all got baited fr fr

Kinda funny how all the bigger streamers instantly dropped it so they don't get exposed for being total shitters at games

>>719943715
>>719943892
Good news anon, even if you never died and killed every enemy you encounter you'd STILL have to grind those anal beads if you want to progress
Those 30 rosary benches you've been buying? They don't stay 30 for long :)

There is "git gud" and there is locking progress behind farming anal beads for 30 minutes

>>719945282
Not true, there are some free benches. You don't pay for the first station either. You only pay to enter one house.

>>719941212
>rng input reading niggerfest
the only "rng" part of that fight is the type of enemy the fly spawns retard.
also
>fly aligns itself to hit you horizontally
>stay immobile until it starts moving
>jump
it's not that fucking hard

>>719945125
>>719945207
I managed to reach that bench with plenty of health but I feel bad for anyone who reached it with 2 masks.

>>719945240
>quest in belfast

>>719945314
never had an issue with bead in the entire fucking 14-15 hours of play and i've even bought a simple key and sitting on a bunch of rosaries
just don't waste your money on shit you have no idea whether you need or not

>>719945282
>Did EA build this kingdom or something?
Well spiders are bloodsuckers after all.

>>719945314
I‘m in front of the capital and I didn’t grind for rosary once. And the only upgrade I haven’t bought yet is the 880 thing from Belfast.

I really dislike the feeling of how weak you are while playing this game, the total opposite of what i felt beating Hollow Knight 1 even on the hardest bosses. They did this because you play as a girl now? Bring back my powerfantasy

>>719938203 (OP)
>literaly has 2 moves

>>719943590
What wasn't telegraphed by him?... There's was a huge wind up for everything he does in my fight.
I guess I feel like there might be a soft enrage where he deletes all of the ground it you can't keep up with damage, but I didn't see it

the hardest part of this game is to find out where to go next.

>>719938203 (OP)
i don't even remember what this guy does because i think i died to him once. this game isn't hard

I just finished all act 1 content. Disappointed in the linearity so far, hope the exploration improves on that front

>Hollow Knight 1
Starts kinda linear, but then after 5 hours in the game opens up into extreme interconnection and route variety where theres like 7 different relevant routes to reach the dream nail
>silksong
first 5-10 hours had railroaded progression
Now to get to the citadel you either take linear path A or linear path B

Also this games' difficulty curve is beyond schizphrenic. Sinners Path, the swamp after it, etc were so much harder than the normal path, but the boss was way easier (with an easier runback) than Last Judge

>last judge fucking explodes after you kill her
>you don't get the win if it kills you
absolute bullshit

>>719945304
I don't blame anyone for dropping this game. It's just being difficult for difficulty's sake and that's not fun. The original was not like this so they can't be surprised when people end up disliking this game because they ruin the formula for the sake of pushing the hard game meme

>>719945192
this is a dumb argument and isn't as smart as you think it is.
the leap between gwyn and margit is a lot of years of mechanics refined over several sequels inspired iterations allah bloodborne and sekiro.
including mechanics such as a jump, faster healing, input reading, delayed attacks, etc.

what you got here is the same barebones nonsense but just harder for the sake of being harder

>>719941247
Collision damage is already limiting when enemies just jump around when they reposition, let alone when they move around in the air.

Phantom is such a great fight bros
It really is one of those you hate it at first but love it in retrospect kind of boss fight

Just got the beast crest. This is cool, but i kinda prefer having the pogo stick.

>>719945107
>>719945024
Uh oh. Honeymoon period is wearing off. Trannybros... not like this...

They will see the drop of players getting filtered and will patch the game to be easier, just like Elden ring did on the first patches

I was worried for a second but he's a big fuzzy guy.

>>719945487
they stripped away the fun parts of exploring and rewarding you with upgrades and going for more of a volgar the viking bullshit difficulty off the bat for some reason.

>>719945498
>allah bloodborne

Islamic/zoroastrianism themed souls-like would be kinda neat

>>719944952
5 masks
>get hit twice
>heal 3
>get hit twice
>die
6 masks
>get hit twice
>heal
>get hit twice
>survive

>>719945595
So Serious Sam with melee?

You fuckers said that Widow was cancer, you lied. Why people have so much problems with her?

>>719945557
Good reminder to disable automatic patches for the game. But also, there’s a fair chance unlike namco Bandai, Team Cherry won’t give a fuck.

>>719945529
I use it and find it fun but I genuinely can't tell if beastmode is a damage increase or not. I think it is, but I'm not 100% sure. The pogo is absolutely fucking jank though, yeah.

Reminder that there's probably a steel soul mode after you beat the game.

>>719945562
They didnt. They just put them all after widow
I shit you not these were my next 30 minutes of gameplay after widow
>whoa wall jump
>woa dream nail equivalent with lots of interactions
>whoa the upgraded version of the starting crest + a secret
>whoa an equippable that makes me a lot faster, and a secret if i combine it with the speed drink (and retardly high speed for general usage)
>wow mask upgrade finally
>wow poison damage tools
despite all these goodies, im afraid beast crest is still unusable garbage

>>719945557
i just got done playin wuchang a month ago and they patched that game but went so overboard when it only needed a few tweaks on the mechanics.
now it turned to shit

i dont even know what they would easily tweak in this game since everything is whole number damages. guess .25 more seconds on the invuln frames from damage?

>>719939561
this game looks so boring

>>719943463
This was the second easiest boss I've faced so far, but it's also cool as fuck so its my favourite anyway.

>>719945557
no they won't. they don't have a publisher or investors pressuring them to do anything, and hollow knight already set them for life. silksong is a pure work of passion, and they aren't nerfing shit.
keep coping shitter.

>>719945389
>Just don't buy anything, never experiment and instead use a wiki :)

>>719945435
>Just straight up lie (or die/get lost so often you end up farming anal beads on accident)

Stop trying to defend this shit, it's so obvious they never playtested this game and didn't realize just how rosary starved you are if you actually play trough the game instead of having devmode enabled

>>719945640
Honestly? Big highlight so far. Gave me the feeling of flow state some of the 9 Sols bosses game me.

>>719945690
There is, there is an achiev for that in the ingame menu.

>>719945703
i just got wall cling and poison tools and im fighting some spider that throws bells but shits too crazy tonight and i want to go to bed.
i dont even know who widow is

let the good times roll

>>719945716
its a garbage scenario for garbage gameplay. The guy is undergeared AND not using any of his cool moves

>>719938203 (OP)
are you retarded?

>>719938203 (OP)
Protip, if you move to the left where you're under the low ceiling, he can't jump so you can just easily swipe him and dodge when he bursts out of the ground.

>>719938203 (OP)
if i got filtered by the helicopter in AC6 (first time i played an AC game and realized it wasn't for me), would this game filter me just as bad?

>>719945704
Better invul frames so you wont get shotgunned by two different attacks, add more trinkets, maybe a little bit smaller enemy hitboxes.
And maybe remove fat fucks from a beast fight.

>>719938321
Based

I am both old, retarded and terrible at games, I didn't even complete hollow knight 1 past the black egg ending, and I beat this nigga after 2 tries just by going 3 meters to the left of where he spawns so he wouldn't be able to do his jump attack
Anyone who gets stuck on this dude should have their gaming license revoked and be issued a government-mandated retard helmet

>>719938203 (OP)
I think this was the only time in both games where parry was useful for me.
I figured that was the only way for me to "dodge" his jumping attack.

>>719945731
You sound very mad for no reason faggot. And btw i'm progressing the game just fine and i was talking about the players backlash the game stills feels worse than Hollow Knight 1

>>719939439
>remove ads with WeMod
Even cheating sites are full of this shit now, huh?
Fucking hell.

>>719945820
yes, you should also stop playing video games altogether

>>719945768
Was a good break, just don't fall when you leave because the ground here was safe and I forgot the ground outside wasn't.

>>719945640
For me it's the diagonal bell shots
I always make the same mistake of jumping instead of staying on the ground because of how the bells bounce off, but everything else was good in that fight

>>719945731
I am fairly certain half of 2hp damage shit will be gone in a month.

>>719945389
i've never died with any more than 20 beads on me and i've explored and still needed to grind a little for maps and other crap. the intention has to be that you string-bead up before entering new places to pay for benches and other crap which get increasingly more expensive. it's pretty gay desu

i cant tell if poison on my tools makes a difference. i dont know how shit is calculated, i dont know if you need to do it enough to "proc" poison. i dont know if its even working
i just dont fuckin know

>>719945820
AC6 was also my first AC game, didnt get filtered, loved the game, if that filtered you, it's literally over for you with this game

I don't get it

>>719938203 (OP)
What is this bait?
Are there really this many shitters claiming they liked Hollow Knight?
I don't fucking believe this shit for a second

>>719945942
It's a target practice room. You're the target.

>>719945832
so you cheesed it. you not only cheated the game, you cheated yourself.
and you're bragging about it

>>719945864
i unno, i 100% all of the battle network games just fine. something about AC6 just didn't click with me.
>>719945938
oh, well, nevermind then

>>719945640
She's overwhelming the first few times until you realize the bells don't even aim for you.

>>719945743
I do all the side quests. I lost like 200 Rosaries in Hunter‘s Path or whatever. I explore. I even paid the halfway house 3 times to buy out his shop. Rosary numbers are fine.

>>719945942
I've tried shooting shit in it but either my aim is as bad as that ants, or it does nothing.

Uohhh

>>719945557
they spent so long workin on this that 7 years went by and they didn't have the foresight to see people are over the LE HARD GAME EPIC type of nonsense.

There is little guy that asks for rosaries in increasing numbers, then seemingly fucks off. Is there more to him later or did I miss something?

>>719944597
ganbatte, anon

>That zone where Hornet runs completely naked
What a slut.

It was immediately obvious to me that he was supposed to be a leave for later boss, even if he also felt killable. The map NPC just about confirms this next time you meet her and he's a cakewalk with the dash. Just good game design and bonus points for making him very beatable for people who are into just pushing ahead. Although the area behind him sounds miserable without a dash so I don't know for what.

Oh god I fucking hate the double jump because it interferes with floating

>>719946136
I am keep worrying that I will miss on it. Is it optional?
I did miss failstate zones in AI Limit and DS3

>in bellhart
>saw the bug girl who rings her bells sitting down by a building looking very tired
>but i entered the building just before i noticed
>i went outside and she's gone

uhh bros? did i fuck up her quest?

I seriously cant tell if this game is amazing or fucking bullshit. like its PISSING me off badly but I cant put it down anyway.

>>719938291
Wait you are supposed to have the dash for him. I just dive kicked into him to get on the other side of him. It is really easy and puts him in a loop.

>>719939561
Surprised no one is posting about the optional boss that is this guy and a flying javelin throwing ant in a corridor just big enough for him to jump and for both the enemies to completely block you off.

>>719938203 (OP)
I beat him without any upgrades. But where am I suppose to go if not there?

>>719938203 (OP)
There's evidence of this all over the place, frankly.
>several story progression points involve you respawning in a closed arena with no benches nearby; this means no tool resupply, charm changing, or the KO protection charm renewing
>some runbacks are so egregious that I can only imagine they were placed there to spit the player directly
>damage scaling higher than normal
>an extreme lack of progression, health upgrades, or even just small, incremental upgrades
>they brought back the delivery quests that fail on fast travel and are either timed or have limited HP for the delivery item
>uncoordinated mass enemy spawns that tend to clusterfuck the player and combo into damage (you can usually only take between three and four hits, remember)
>some enemies are just fucking stupid, I won't even bother trying to be neutral in this regard

The enemy OP posted is annoying, but not that bad. It only gets worse, however. It's a bit of a mess. I'm having fun when the game lets me explore, but overall, I'm just not enjoying it much. But I was also a critic of HK and didn't see what people saw in that game, so who knows.

>>719946003
>I even paid the halfway house 3 times to buy out his shop.
>he doesn't know

>>719946034
he just like me

>>719941032
I've gotten up to the bird but I literally don't even remember the bell beast. If anything the fight that's given me the most trouble is the one in Hunter's March where you team up with Shakra. The fucking flying spear throwing niggers kept killing me while I was in the middle of using the heal. I must have had to run that whole spiky platforming pathway back like 15 times, even with the help.

>>719946227
I burned them down with poisoned needle traps.

>>719946220
because anons are gaslighting people that the game is fair and that youre bad
the game has so much bullshit in it but you feel the need to keep going so you cant say its bad yet until you beat it

>>719946158
It's really not that hard...

>>719946289
The bell beast is your fast travel buddy.

>>719938203 (OP)
>just got ability progression walled in Greymoore
>besides OP's, somehow have missed basically all the bosses people keep talking about
>still don't have the float and wall-jump abilities
how the fuck, I've been zigzagging and clearing out everywhere I can except DD, is all that shit found there?

>>719946310
You’re right anon
It’s harder

>>719946227
I think it’s because by the time you get to that guy you have dash and float.

>>719938203 (OP)
>>719938291
hes easy without dash. I baited and hit him when he did his double slash, and when he does his jump slash I just swing up when its coming down at my head and it parries all the damage. Dudes a joke. He also constantly just pops up from the dirt with no swings so its easy to just punish him.

>>719946310
>...

>>719945743
do you want me to go through the prio list that i've figured out on my own without whining like a little bitch?
>memory lockets
>new tools
>pouch/tool upgrades
>materials (like fucking 1 and you get one for free from exploration anyway)
the rest is self-explanatory like mask fragments, keys or whatever
how is this so hard for a retard like you?

>>719946264
>KO protection charm
where the FUCK is this

>>719946331
Yeah actually.

Anyone know what the Magnetite Dice charm does? The description says it brings luck and I equipped it but I honestly have no idea whats it doing.

How did you get filtered by this of all things? I beat him before I even went into Deep Docks

>>719946158
There’s definitely a couple bosses in this game where you can tell the devs were like “this one’s to easy, throw in some ads. Like the weird ceiling wood and vines lady.

>>719946179
Yes it's optional there's like a fat guard in a room somewhere in the far fields, you have to let him catch you and he will teleport you to a new zone with no robes and no nail (you attack with your feet). If you skip this you can still enter that zone later but without being naked.
It's only temporary, you recover your things later.

>>719945557
>patch
You haven't played Hollow Knight if you think Team Cherry will ever admit they fucked up and nerf things.

>>719946423
It sometimes blocks damage randomly.

>>719946331
>float
Go ye down into the Far Fields and explore further to the right

>>719946409
Hunter's March, secret wall near the top of the zone.

>>719938203 (OP)
>>719938534
>>719938591
It's really fucking exploitable just lure him in tunnel from where you entered away from open space, he'll just pop out from the ground barley do any attacks, you don't need dash.

>>719946319
Didn't have that path unlocked yet. I've obviously done so now but I was just too locked in and decided to go around the front each time. I didn't want to pussy out and go around to some other path yet.

If you have reached the HalfWay House at Greymoor its a really good spot to get rosary beads if you want to buy something. From the bench in the building if you go right and kill the 3 bugs you get around 28 beads per run, about 100 per minute.

So you miss stuff if you do the flea quest?

>>719938203 (OP)
I don't know if you guys are trolling, but I killed him second try.

>widow phase 2
you got to be kidding me dude im outta tools

>>719945716
It actually gets really fun once you get more tools and your dash. im only just past the lava part so I dont know what else I get yet but it picks up a lot since hornet can just sprint across maps and use sprint attacks and jumps, also you have different movesets when you find different crests

>>719939561
>cheesing him in the door
you didn’t beat the game

>>719946589
Greymoor boss fight

>>719946309
Is it gaslighting or just a matter of perspective?

I hope other metroidvanias will copy Silksong and add a sprint.

/v/ makes fun of yellow paint and people wanting easy modes but the moment a game doesn't hold your hand and provides a modicum of challenge the board gets spammed with threads full of anons crying about unfairness and bad design, it's ridicolous.
If Dark Souls came out today you would say that it's the worst game ever made

>>719946589
Only if you choose to go with them. You skip an entire boss fight.

>>719943463
No it wasn't, I don't understand why this boss fight was dragged on for too long.

>>719946279
I guess I don’t but I look forward to find out since I’m not a bitch whining about the supposed lack of rosaries in the game.

>>719946686
>>719946702
Are there any rewards for beating it?

Cool boss, the run back to the arena sucks massive balls tho.

>>719946702
He shows up at the same area later though and you cant fight him.

>>719942514
one that annoyed me is the completely fucking jewish hut past the lava spot where you need to pay 30 roseries every time to access the fucking bench.

>>719946690
do you really need to play a game for x amount of hours for it to get good?

>>719946518
That is fundamentally impossible.

>>719946761
CAN* fight him. For me he showed up when I got to act 2 after skipping him first time.

>>719946264
>they brought back the delivery quests that fail on fast travel and are either timed or have limited HP for the delivery item
Wait fucking what? Elaborate.

>>719938203 (OP)
I beat him without the dash. Literally just stand next to him and react to his double swing and jump back.

>>719946772
Just break the door to keep it open, benches are usually 60 so it's half off if you notice the first time

>>719946752
Get on my level

>>719946701
True. The real bullshit parts are
> Pay for benches
> It takes too long to reach some bosses
> Farming beads for EVERYTHING sucks

>>719946745
yes, those 20 beads and a couple of shards will never be yours now.

>>719946816
Its even worse its required for your weapon upgrad, part of a massive fetch quest with multiple items around the map

>>719946843
>so it's half off if you notice the first time
h-heh. yea. they only got me once. thx for the tip anon. im gonna go beat that door in.

>>719946480
>>719946417
well I guess I'll be doing that tomorrow. went by a ton of spots that looked reachable with either ability that I didn't mark thinking "the ability must just be right around the corner."

somehow i completely missed the upper half of bellhart and got into act 2 without ever getting the nail upgrade

>>719946919
How did you get into the citadel?

>>719946883
At least tell me it is not failable.

>>719946941
accidentally by defeating phantom, was saving judge for last, trying to complete everything in act 1 first but got into act 2 anyway

>>719946863
Do the side quests and find hidden rooms for extra rosaries. All your problems solved.

>>719946863
yeah honestly the game is obviously not devoid of issues and bullshit but the discussions about the serious criticism are getting drowned out by hordes of retards whining about the most inane shit

so many people are saying they are having a hard time and i think its cause they arent playing on keyboard

>>719946978
You can retry the delivery as many times as is necessary. You'll have ripped all your hair out and be bald by the end of it, however.

>>719938203 (OP)
Use the enviroment on your favour you brainlet

>>719947056
its designed for gamepad and its not hard on that either

I'm being genuine right now, not baiting or anything. But what is with the insane glazing of these games? Hollow Knight isn't bad, and I respect that it was made by such a small team. But it is a 7.5/10 at absolute best. It is no Symphony of the Night/Super Metroid and people don't even put those games on such a high pedestal. I'd even go as far as saying Shadow Complex is unironically better than Hollow Knight. It is far better paced and has a much more satisfying sense of power progression.

>>719947064
I mean, at least they did not went full retard.. haha..

Why the fuck am I getting blackscreens when a cutscene plays? They might play literally 1% of the time and now I'm fucked and just lost a bunch of progress. Fucking wonderful, dude.

>>719938203 (OP)
Apparently fighting him in the tunnel to the left is an exploit I guess, because I killed him first try without dash no troubles without even meaning to "lure" him there, it just kinda happened. I feel like I got robbed the real experience now

if you had more than 1 brain cell you'd know how easy it is to cheese this nigga

>>719947056
I'm playing on Switch 2, have never played Hollow Knight and think both the platforming and fights have been fairly easy so far.

>>719946803
Where does time spent in the game factor into what you had said? Are you referring to running back to bosses or something? You said "there is a bunch of bullshit" it didn't occur to me that you were referring to playtime. I don't understand your angle here, please elaborate.

>>719947162
Are you a eurocuck on an N version of windows? Install your damn codecs. Alternatively, if Linux: Stop using proton, this game has a native version.

>>719946589
Apparently you can skip the bridge boss in the area with the crow bugs if you finish the quest early and say "yes" when asked if you want to travel with them, as they will move to the area where the boss is supposed to spawn
I supposed the devs implemented it as a way for people to speerun/progress in diferent ways and since you can still find flies after the quest i assume they will move again making the area free for the boss to spawn, but no one i know made that far yet

>>719943463
Got caught off gaurd on my way back by this one, killed it first try.
You get the float right before it and can use it to stall any attack it does. Basic platformer boss stuff. Dropping the rock on it was cool. One of the better designed fights in the game.
Phase one and two still felt like they had too much health and I assumed it was a puzzle boss with the rock. Turns out you just aren't allowed to deal damage in this fucking game.

>>719947106
It’s got Souls style bosses that give a massive outpouring of the good brain chemicals when you beat them. Up until the final boss, SotN bosses are all cheesed easily. And no Metroid boss was ever hard, until like the last few bosses in Dread.

>>719947220
No, I'm american and using W10 LTSC. I have codecs installed. What additional fucking codecs do I need?

>>719947106
>It is no Symphony of the Night/Super Metroid
Funny thing to me is that the balance in symphony of the night/super metroid is absolutely atrocious and you can become an unstoppable God really fast so those games have some big issues too

>>719941032
The bird gets fixed by having half of his attacks doing 1 damage instead of 2.

He is somewhat similar to soul master in hollow knight. But you can't take that many hits.

Its crazy how broken the healing system is. Healing 3 at a time and losing 2 masks with hits is retarded. This is your typical let's reinvent the wheel retarded moment.

>>719947174
>exploit
I'm pretty positive this is a deliberate game design choice

reminder that if you didn't jump down and play a little song for the poorly departed bug then you have no soul

>>719947285
>The bird
Moorwing? I just beat him first try

>>719947217
im responding to the "matter of perspective"
"git gud" is a response to criticism so when you do get good, can you criticize the game for real now? even if none of the criticism changes?

same with "game gets better after x hours". you can say a game has dogshit parts too it, but you will get met with it gets better after so many hours, meanwhile nothing else has changed.

>>719944416
Does he at least stay dead or does he respawn?

alright widow you just have to play patience as fuck. sit between the vertical falling bells and wack her

Everything I've seen so far in the game (just got to the cursed bell town, can't recall name) is fine, I just think that it would have made more sense as a difficulty escalation further into the game. Pretty common enemies take quite a lot of hits to kill combined with really aggressive movesets and how stubby the Hunter moveset is shit ends up difficult. Reaper and Wanderer movesets are both a lot more reliable to use. The first crest I got was Beast and I had to come back after taking a nap to kill the Savage Beastfly because it was irritating and the Beast moveset is a meme, it would be kind of cool I guess if it didn't screw me out of proper healing, and the fucked up part is that clearing the Beast Chapel (the first one you're likely to come across) is probably 3x as hard compared to the Reaper Chapel or the Wanderer Chapel.

A lot of this would be solved by having the dash attack (or something in Hornet's movset) do two hits worth of damage to help deal with the high healthbars some enemies have. I'm certain there is a nail upgrade/damage boost charm further in the game, but for the early game balance just seems lopsided.

>>719947270
Metroid Dread had none of these issues and this board hated it just for those robots.

>>719947360
No you didn't.

The problem with the 2 hits crap is not only that. Invincibility frames are shorter too. You can get 2 consecutive hits so you lose 4 masks. Its crazy.

Also the hitbox is bigger (the knight is smaller than hornet)

>>719947407
That or whack away the bell(s) that's getting between you standing in melee range of her

>>719947448
I literally just beat him on the first encounter and then my game crashed because I apparently don't have an updated version of Windows Media Feature Pack so I'm probably going to have to beat him again. He wasn't difficult though. He has like no moves and everything of his is easy to avoid

>>719947106
>90% of the posts about it on this board are complaints
what glazing? Maybe you meant to ask why this game was overhyped, and it's because of a series of factors including:
HK being a lot of people's first metroidvania, Dark Souls inspiration, cutesy artstyle, and years of memes that somehow didn't lose steam over time

>>719947106
i don't get it either nine sols and blasphemous are better game than this bug game people can actually understand the story withour jewtuber 2

>>719946652
You don't need tools. Sit in the corner and wait until she attacks you with her swipe then jump. Run to the center where she is and hit her. Repeat until you win.

>>719947448
Please stop putting yourself through this humiliation ritual and just say you're bad at the game nigger, this is fucking embarrassing.

>>719946652
First phase is so predictable you can easily no hit it with just a little practice.

rest in peace lil nigga

>>719947448
The sequential hits you can take from some enemies seems like it shouldn't be the way it is in game. Those floating pilgrim bugs with the whirlwind slash and the worms in the wormways have almost instakilled me.

>>719947430
Once you get the beast crest and needle upgrade most enemies die in 3-5 hits

Yes! I beat the bird death arena in Greymoor! I am a GOD!

>>719947106
>It is no Symphony of the Night/Super Metroid
Dude can you stop? These are not good games and you are begging for aggro that is going to make you so asshurt you're never gunna discuss a game here again.

>>719947517
I don't care about you anon, I'm here to discuss the game, not to strike your ego.

The game clearly has some issues. It's obvious they expect you to have played hollow knight first. This is basically the dlc and new players shouldn't play this if they haven't played hollow knight.

If the game wanted to follow this path correctly, they would let you change some crests to change the heal system, like they give you crests to change the down slash.

Hollow knight had different healing crests, dunno why this game is so limited with charms.

>>719947364
You're free to criticize whatever you want anon, I was just alluding to there's not an absolute objective way to understand/enjoy these things.
Maybe the players you claim may be gaslighting others just genuinely enjoy it for what it is, even if you don't. I understand there are a lot of bad faith faggots in this shithole, but some of them may just be authentic game enjoyers, and this is the kind of game they like.

>>719947534
I agree that Nine Sols didn’t get its flowers but both are fantastic fucking games. Why the tribalism?

>>719947647
>trannime avatar fag
>retarded take
every time

>>719947626
Does the beast crest actually increase the damage your attacks do? I certainly couldn't tell.

>>719947613
The recovery window is smaller. I really want to see some comparisons because I'm 99% sure your hitbox is bigger and you get less inv frames than hollow knight.

The pogo change is already a step up in difficulty, dunno why they tuned up difficulty so much. I'm po because I have beaten god mode in hollow knight but I don't imagine a new player beating this game.

>>719946805
Well I guess I fundamentally did the impossible.

Is this the map?

>>719939561
lmfao this was my exact strat

>Deposit 80 rosaries into this two times
>Fucking nothing
Am i getting jewed??

>>719947825
Yeah that's the map
Don't forget to save 30 shekels for the one time use benches up ahead

>>719947728
It feels like it does more damage than the other crests, I dunno. Might honestly just be because of the attack speed

t. unlocked wanderer after beast

>>719947724
When's that last time you actually played a video game? Like for real and not just hammering through something once in a few hours with a savestate? SotN and Super Metroid are not good games. Their movement is far worse than Silksong and their level design is antiquated. Additionally, I'd argue SotN doesn't have a single interesting boss fight in the entire game. In fact, it's infamously terrible for having mediocre and easily exploitable boss fights. Its unhealthy to just put old games on a pedestal.

>>719947885
Look into your inventory

>>719947902
Honestly the crest system feels completely half baked
maybe if you could switch on the fly, but having to commit to one at a bench, plus needing to unlock their tool slots, PLUS each one changes the way the pogo works....i just stayed in hunter most of the time

>>719947885
it turns your rosaries into strung rosaries. look at your inventory, anon

>>719947885
You are turning your rosaries into rosary strings. YOu are losing 20 everytime though

the fuck are these silver bells? theres bells everywhere here nigga

>>719947743
It is strange. I got pretty frustrated when trying to deal with the Savage Beastfly and the day before release I was fighting ascended/radiant Pantheon bosses in the statue challenge room to get some of the rust off. I wasn't one and done'ing them, it's been way too long since I beat Hollow Knight, I beat some of them and managed to put that shit Soul Tyrant down but a large part of it was having the full HK moveset.
I can only imagine it's this hard because, theoretically, if they still developed from the groundwork of this being a Hollow Knight DLC then they'd expect everyone playing it to be acquainted with Pantheon difficulty. Then once it blew up out into a full game they never really adjusted to meet the player expectations of people starting this fresh and working with a really bare, wonky moveset and bad hit/hurtboxes.

>>719947885
Who the fuck even uses this "system"

>>719947743
Hunter downslash makes the game easier if you use it as intended

>>719947949
>When's that last time you actually played a video game? Like for real and not just hammering through something once in a few hours with a savestate? SotN and Super Metroid are not good games. Their movement is far worse than Silksong and their level design is antiquated. Additionally, I'd argue SotN doesn't have a single interesting boss fight in the entire game. In fact, it's infamously terrible for having mediocre and easily exploitable boss fights. Its unhealthy to just put old games on a pedestal.

>>719947990
I'm enjoying the different crests honestly, but yeah I had the same thought, being able to switch them on the fly would be really nice, no need for the blue yellow red item shit either, I don't really see the point.

>>719948064
Cowards

>>719948017
They literally just spawn randomly.

>>719938203 (OP)
Beat him in 3 tries with no dash. Silk issue

That's it. Rape correction for Lace.

>>719938203 (OP)
Wait until you meet him again but this time he has a faggot sniper with him and the room is much smaller.

>>719948286
This boss proves they can actually design a good, fair, fun, and still challenging fight
Why the fuck did they just give up?

>>719948208
They had to make it different enough from the badge system and this crap was all they could think of
IN 7 FUCKING YEARS

>>719947676
GTFO of here with your rational and balanced opinions

>>719947825
Yeah
From this point forward, the machines with a model of the place print out a map

>>719947676
>>719948440
So is Silksong completely perfect with no flaws?
Not allowed to be criticized in any way?
If that's not the case then what would YOU consider to be a flaw of the game?

>>719939771
>game is too hard
>>no it isnt
>well uhh actually i meant its too boring...
skongers are mentally retarded and too cowardly to just admit it.

>>719948553
they want their games flaws to exist just to gate keep people
they want to feel special beating their jank tranny slop
tranny's love having a small leaderboard for their speedrun niche slopcore

>>719948790
Meds

Do these fucking balloons never end

>>719948164
There is no way you think the pogo is at the same level as the pogo in hollow knight

>>719948846
No, he is right.
There is a trend for some years now in vidya of people that spend their entire lives on difficult games and build their entire personality around beating hard games and others don't beating hard games.

Its like girls that see everything through the lenses of sexuality and you have value or no value of you fuck or not fuck and nothing else.

This is the same.

WHat the fuck do you the bones you get from killing enemies do? I've been max capped for hours.

Does someone sell you stuff for them?

>>719948553
>So is Silksong completely perfect with no flaws?
obviously not
>Not allowed to be criticized in any way?
of course you can, just realize that some of the things one might
>If that's not the case then what would YOU consider to be a flaw of the game?
well for example recovering your currency after death imo is a silly mechanic that I would gladly do without, it punishes you too harshly for exploring advanced areas early and while it adds tension I'm sure there would be way better ways to go about it rather than lazily copying the souls mechanic

>>719949243
Use your tools

>>719946443
>there's like a fat guard in a room somewhere in the far fields, you have to let him catch you
>tfw not shit at games so i probably killed him like any other enemy and misse dout on naked hornet

>>719949243
They are ammo for your usable tools
shitty fucking system, only being able to refill them at benches
thats even worse than Sekiro's talisman bullshit

>>719949325
>some of the things one might find annoying can be genuinely enjoyable to others
is what I meant to say. This doesn't mean that you shouldn't voice your criticism, just don't assume that anybody disagreeing with it is lying

>>719949379
Have you tried not sucking ass

>>719949243
built weapon and building material for bug town

>>719947056
I think it's people playing on controller but not using the Dpad over the stick, it's far more responsive when you're trying to aim attacks or use special weapons

>>719949342
>>719949379
Ah, right. I don't bother using any tools. I just press x to hit.

>>719948064
People that dont bitch about losing rosaries to some retarded trap segment.

>>719949065
If you could pogo like hornet in HK it would trivialize fucking everything

I don't know what I need for certain cutscenes to play. I can't download the Windows Media Pack because I'm on LTSC so I don't have access to microsoft store and then there's no normal download links. I literally can't do anything

>>719949431
???
what does criticizing the shitty limited use weapon system have to do with skill?
I want to use all my fun weapons more without having to slog back to a benchy for a refill

>>719948553
I didn't say any of that, anon, you're projecting.
Here, I'll give you one of my problems with it right now.
I think there's a little delay on the jump from sprint that feels kind of shitty, makes it so you can't easily do sprinting jumps from narrow platforms.
But, I also think this is probably a deliberate design decision based on the problem I have that manifests from it.
i.e. I think the delay on the jump is probably there in order to stop you from doing sprinting jumps from narrow platforms, at least to prevent it from being done easily. Probably to make extreme sequence breaks hard.
The distinction, I think, is that being able to rationalize the problems I have as deliberate choices lets me accept reality for what it is and enjoy and learn the game for what's there, rather than making argumentative posts in this and other hellsites.

But, complaining is the only way to get the developers to change the game in the favor of those who want change, so it's all good.
Personally, I think being a persistently negative nancy doesn't do yourself any favors, and just ensures you'll get responses in bad faith and remain frustrated.
Basically I don't care if some things kind of suck or are good, they just are the way they are and other people can worry about what they think is right or wrong and fight about it.

>>719949525
There is an alternative site that lets you download any of the store apps. You will need to google it though because I forgot the name. I used it a year ago to download some of those shitty codecs.

>>719949757
The problem is that I don't know exactly what I need

>>719946158
you wasted time making this instead of just getting good

I haven't read the thread yet but this game's difficulty consists of:
25% they trained hornet wrong as a joke. the wanderer crest is still the best in the game but it's just the hollow knight player character but you're swinging around your 2 incher instead
25% 2 damage is EVERYWHERE
50% enemies have WAY too much hp. It's a real problem in fights like the big charger bug boss where there can quickly be 9 million things at once on screen.
Most of the time when you die it's because of these reasons so personally it feels like artificial difficulty

So far my rating of this game is glad I pirated it/10 because this shit gets ANNOYING later on. Not difficult, annoying.

I haven't seen anyone mention it yet, but the soundtrack fucking sucks.
There are no memorable tunes or leitmotifs, its all just "muh ambiance orchestra" artsy crap. Like the jazz of classical music or something.
Imagine games like Mario, Metroid, Castlevania, Megaman, or Final Fantasy without their memorable soundtracks

>>719949793
Maybe Media Feature Pack?

>>719949857
The music is great but I am disappointed it's referencing HK so much

>>719949961
Well, geez man, thanks for the fucking input. I sure wish I knew EXACTLY WHICH ONE