Thread 720087805

Go woke, go broke claims another victim

How could this be? Their marketing was so strong

How many more mass layoffs until people in the industry realize there's a problem?

WokeGOD here
Believe it or not, this does not affect me
Games will continue being woke and there's nothing you can do about it
The pendulum isn't swinging
You will seethe forever and we will keep replacing our layoffs and having more layoffs in perpetuity

It's not selling because it sucks mechanically, not because "hurr durr le woke"
You retards would call Civ 1 "woke" too

>>720087805 (OP)
Good

>>720088225
This is when /vpol/ goes "But it's bad mechanically cause it's woke and they hired trannies that can't design games, there were never bad games and disappointing sequels before muh woke"

>>720088283
>>>/vt/ranny

>dlc simulator company lays off people
OH NO
anyway
how people fell for this shit after civ5 just shows stupid people are.

And yet the right can't make games, only seethe about elf girls getting BUGGED

>>720087805 (OP)
Good, let these woke morons starve to death.

>>720088336
I mean...
Yeah? Hiring trannies that don't care about video games will produce worse video games.

>>720088620
Trannies care about video games and there's nothing to me that indicates that the new Civ being shit has anything to do with trannies, considering they haven't made a good once since 4.

>>720088569
>elf girls getting BUGGED
What did I miss?

>>720088569
>elf girls getting BUGGED
What????!
I need pics.

Didn't the United Healthcare killer work on this

>>720087805 (OP)
It was less the woke and more the beyond retarded gameplay decisions they made, any dev that said "hey we should copy humankind" should of been thrown out of a 10th story window.

>>720088732
>>720088770

New Hollow Knight game

>>720087805 (OP)
Is this the American leader?
Looks like the Burger King guy.

>>720088830
Post it.
Googling Hollow Knight elf delivers nothing.

Does /v/ have anti-woke fatigue or are we being raided? I've never seen this much pushback or fast pushback to calling something woke, we usually accept it and move on

>>720088784
He worked on Civ 6, clearly he was holding Firaxis together. But I guess he had a higher calling

>>720088931
Dunno, I've been shitting on you retards for 13 years now lol

>>720088830
What's the outrage about, Hornet mentioning that she had bfs in the past?

>Make game that appeals to nobody
>Shits all over the history that people value and enjoy
>Nobody buys it.

What did they think was going to happen?

>>720087805 (OP)
>know that identity politics games don't sell well
>know that a single middling or worse game is financially devastating enough to cause layoffs
>continue with development and release anyway
what kind of mental illness is this

>>720089069
>know that identity politics games don't sell well

>>720088225
idk bro i saw a few screenshots of the dialogue. there was definitely an attempt

>>720088336
>This is when /vpol/ goes "But it's bad mechanically cause it's woke and they hired trannies that can't design games, there were never bad games and disappointing sequels before muh woke"
I still can't think of a single example of a game that was bad because it was woke, and wasn't a bad game regardless of the woke.

>>720089135
the gay shit isnt what sells the game, but it has caused the death of more games than successes

>>720087805 (OP)
>told em this would happen
>they did it anyway
>get laid off
>oh no the consequences of our actions
lol lmao

>>720089212
I can think of plenty of good games that /vpol/ thinks are shit just because they're le woke, if that counts.

>>720087805 (OP)
I dropped the franchise because I didn't like the tone of the civilopedia entries in Civ 5

>>720088336
>This is when the people able visualize the apple, unlike myself, come in and spread the truth again.
well, yes

>>720089237
>the gay shit isnt what sells the game
Yeah, and if the new Civ wasn't utter garbage, it wouldn't have been what sold it either. Just like it wasn't what made it flop.

>>720089135
i think i've seen this picture before

>>720089135
yeah i can't name anyone in that image

>>720088225
you are retarded
this is supposed to be a mongolian

>>720087972
im not playing your racialized woke slop, faggot

>>720089135
Baldur's Gate 3 managed to succeed because it kept its worst offenders hidden until you dig into their private lives
Most other woke games promote their fags and troons front and center

>>720089069
Unironically jews and fags. People making these decisions belong to one of the 2 groups and it's literally impossible for them to fail.
Worst comes to worst they just go to another studio to do the same thing.

>>720088931
one guy going mad ITT disputing unassailable facts like go woke get broke isn't a lot of pushback, really

>>720089356
the new civ plays fine, its not garbage, the main problem of the game is that its a globohomo anti racist piece of entertainment where M O N G O L I A N S are played by africans negroes

>>720089401
As opposed to all those successful anti-woke games like

>>720088045
All of them. No seriously, its a well known fact. Corporate greed is so short sited that these fuckers would sell guns to an angry mob even if it eventually used it to kill them; all for quick profit.

>>720088336
>But it's bad mechanically cause it's woke
this is largely true because its particularly clear with games like Civ 7 that they cared more about getting every crinkle on harriet tubmans outfit to be properly textured in time for preview week than they cared about aligning basic UI elements inside their correct fields. The executive designers made decisions within the timeframe to release the game and decided that highlighting elements which would resonate with a culturally progressive audience was more worthy of development hours than finishing the core mechanics of the game.

>>720088225
Having played the game, I would say that yes the game is quite woke depending on the area. America's leader is Harriet Tubman, most of the civs in the game are intentionally non-European even when they would be more appropriate, and the entire conceit of the game lies in a deconstruction of the entire series' tagline: "Can you build a civilization that will stand the test of time?" Regardless of the fact that it was ALSO done poorly, its wokeness definitely did not help the situation whatsoever.

>Civilization 6
Shit game, not really woke, not go broke
>Civilization 7
Shit game, is woke, did go broke

So it seems like for AAA the game can be either shit or woke, but not both. I have cracked the code, youre welcome

Just because (You) didn't like Civ 7 doesn't mean it failed

>>720089524
>because it kept its worst offenders hidden
No, it didn't, retard. The bear sex was the shit they advertised with.

>>720089595
>the new civ plays fine
lol this is why no one takes you /vpol/tards seriously

>All the maps look like garbage for the sake of a forced sea expansion mechanic
>Time sink grinding in a fucking Civ game
>Can't even stick to the same civilization through a entire game
The game is full of bad decisions. Any idpol shit you can think of isn't even in the top 10.

the game isnt technically bad, it has no bugs, it plays fine, the performance is good, the AI is fine

stop this cope its just another civilization game

the only difference is that they decided to go full woke

>>720088225
Its the same shit brah, woke games focus on being woke so the mechanics always suck. If they just kept the same formula it would be fine but for some reason they wanted harriet tubman to lead Rome.

>>720087805 (OP)
smfh u crackers are real sensitive an shit

we wuz kangz

>>720089865
those are minor complaints, a game wont fail and the studio making the game wont fire people over those light issues

putting negroes in the shoes of civilizations that are not negroes is what made the game fail, you anti racist faggot

>>720089808
Last good Civ.

>>720089887
This is why no one will ever take you seriously, /vpol/. This game is absolute garbage even by Nu-Civ standards. You don't know what you're talking about, and the reason for that is that you're only talking about this game because you want to peddle your GWGB narrative. Otherwise, you wouldn't even know of its existence.

>>720089930
damn nba 2k26 be do lookin like dat?

>>720089930
These guys knock up white girls while you jerk off in your mom's basement

>>720089979
you are an anti racist faggot
you love black and brown people, or you are black or brown yourself

you're just shaking that people have negro fatigue

>>720089958
>those are minor complaints
Yes, anon, you think the worst gameplay in the history of Civ games, that is ripping off a shit Civ-like that no one liked, is a minor complaint

Whereas a major complaint is muh wokeness

Incidentally, go check the steam reviews and see what people actually criticize this game for in mass.

You are detached from reality.

>>720090057
those are reviewers paid to make videos about games

most people see this >>720087972 and will refuse to even considering trying the game

admit it, using negroes in place of white people is just fucking retarded

>>720090014
dat rite we mufuken run dis shit ooka booga

>>720090138
>and will refuse to even considering trying the game
This is part of the reason why /vpol/ isn't taken seriously, by the way.
Most of you are third world.

>>720090138
Normal people don't care about this. You're weird and not the target demographic.

>>720088045
companies that go under these days don't put them out of business. they just start a new company under a different name with the same people.

>>720090179
>under arrest
>CHOOSE YOUR DESTINY
A) Comply
B) Show the cop how well you can do the Sonic Adventure pose
C) Glass him

>>720090210
It's been obvious for a while that the average identity politics faggot on 4chan is brown or SEA and just wants to pretend they're relevant by being part of le ebin culture war

>>720090347
>It's been obvious for a while that the average identity politics faggot on 4chan is brown or SEA and just wants to pretend they're relevant by being part of le ebin culture war
You forgot about falseflag psyop bullshit from the CIA

>>720089034
tranons seethe at the idea that their pure waifu has ever been with another man. it's why these tranons are all pedos, because they think children at least haven't had sex. protip: the girls have.

>>720090138
You don't even know what steam reviews are. Grim.
Show me a game you own with a playtime of 200 hours or more. At least prove that you play vidya first.

>>720090210
no, europe

>>720090285
lol

lmao

get out more

people are sick and tired of the negroification of everything
the prime minister of japan just resigned after saying he will import millions of africans and kurds into japan

>>720090502
>no, europe
Slavs are third worlders

>>720090138
>>720090210
>my games are flopping because of /pol/
guess /pol/ is the majority. keep sucking the transnigger cock. im sure it will rise the sales

>>720090502
based japan

>>720090491
i play startegy games, i know abotu civilisation

>>720090578
>my games are flopping because of /pol/
Nope. No one said that. You barely understand English.

>>720088336
It's a cope used by grifters to keep the anti-woke side moralized.

>>720090041
there is no such thing as an anti racist. by nature they hate what they perceive as oppressors

>>720088045
It's not the number of layoffs. The key fuckers are still hired and still in AAA. The art director at avowed is still there. Project leader at Veilguard, as well as writers and actors moved to Go Yotei. Character designer on Concord. And the press is still covering for them.

>>720090623
>Last Played: Jan 17, 2015
>Play Time: 18 minutes
Good lord, dude. These are very simple instructions. I don't need it to be a strategy game. Just show me a game you have more than 200 hours on. It can even be CS 1.6, or whatever. You're actually so retarded you're starting to embarrass your fellow /vpol/ vermin.

>>720087972
>>720090138
Thing is, I unironically enjoy playing some of the savage civs in the game like the Aztecs and Zulu in civ 5. If they want more diversity and representation, why don't they make more games that are actually african rather than trying to blackwash knights, samurais or european monarchs? It's so retarded.
>>720090285
Is their target demographic the schizophrenic voices in their head? Because clearly no one gives a fuck about Civ 7.

>>720088225
>>720088336

There's a difference between choosing cleopatra as a civ leader, and random brown people out of nowhere, and choosing Buganda as a civ that Egypt switches to, and picking Harriet Tubman as the leader of America anons..

go woke, go broke is true but i don't think that is what happened here. i think it's just firaxis finally catching up with itself. it can't have so many failed games that take decades to be playable while bloating their dev costs over and over.

>>720090648
they did. post pics of a nigger, which is obviously the reason the game flopped, and trannies will say its all /pol/s fault. thats literally what happened here

>>720090747
>Because clearly no one gives a fuck about Civ 7
Yeah, cause of >>720089865

>>720090801
oh yeah that's what it was. harriet tubman as a leader. i remembered seeing something absolutely retarded about this game

>>720090828
Show me one post in this thread that blames /pol/ for this game flopping.

>>720090924
>>720090210

>>720087805 (OP)
I remember some faggots on here calling anyone who didn't like it "snowflakes" and that real strategy fans buy games anyways. Fuck you fags. I told you this game was sales repellant. The gun-touting, debra wilson, harriet tubman crap was just comical at some point as well.

>>720091014
Anon, that's me making fun of you being ESL. "and will refuse to even considering" is a retarded ESL sentence. You really should learn to read.

You ever gonna show a game you have 200+ hours on or what?

>>720089135
>Chinese astroturf
bots aren't a mark of success

>>720090285
Their target demographic isn't playing the game either so who is?

>>720091182
>making fun of
no thats exactly what you meant.
the post you were replying to is "people see niggers and refuse to even play games"
your response: "This is part of the reason why /vpol/ (which is just /pol/) isn't taken seriously"
lets see the people who dont take /pol/ seriously: its jews trannies, niggers, and journalist, who are just jews and trannies anyway. who are you trying to gaslight? normal people are on the /pol/ side

>>720087805 (OP)
KWAB. Civ 5 is still the best. Nothing beats Spain with Great Barrier Reef near your capital.

it surely doesn't help that I don't even play Civ and am aware that the base release game is always underwhelming

>>720087805 (OP)
Good, now make xcom 3

>>720089373
>No bitches?

>Change CIV partway through session
Yeah I'm not playing your game
I eventually warmed up to CIV VIs systems a bit but I don't think I could ever adapt to the garbage systems of 7.

>>720091657
What about Spain with Mt Sinai? Pre industrial units go brrr

>>720087805 (OP)
If you own a Civ game already why would you need the next one? How much more do you even get?

>>720088336
>>720088225
wokies say the same thing every single time

>>720092146
>How much more do you even get?
more nigs

>>720088336
>>720088569
>>720090210
>gamers: oppose woke like any other normal person
>politicsfags: /pol/!!!!!! RIGHT WING!!!! TRUMP!!!!
Go back

>>720089356
Not remotely applicable. The most central failure was a direct result of woke bullshit. And it was a full spectrum failure at absolutely everything BUT being woke. And, well maybe terrain.

>>720088225
>>720088336
Can you wokies fucking update your script already.

>>720089640
anti woke games are all games without an agenda so thats most of games

>>720092748
Can you chuds stop killing yourselves in record numbers?

>>720089212
dragon age veilguard and assassins creed shadows, according to people who played them

>>720087805 (OP)
Shoulda made XCOM 3
don't you dare post chimera squad as 3

>>720089640
generally if a dev expresses antiwoke opinions they'll probably get blacklisted by the industry. Even on smaller fronts like indie devs it's rough, because having those opinions will mean that a lot of trannindie devs and journos will try to completely memoryhole you

>>720090876
Oh it's WAY fucking worse than that. They copied Humankind's concept of Civ switching. So if you pick egypt, you cannot play through the entire game as egypt. You normally have to switch to the third islamic caliphate, and then to Buganda, which is apparently a subsection of Uganda.

>>720091525
About the population of a small indie game. Even the youtubers have given up.

Real men play EUIV

>>720093086
>all of Africa is the same to progressives
It's so funny how racist they are by trying to be anti racist/woke

>>720091808
they fired the lead for the good xcoms, you aren't even getting more unity squad.

>>720091789
There's underwelming and, resembling a pol shitpost. They decided to make England DLC.

>>720092354
They used to at least give you higher quality ones than the shitters they're passing off this game.

They have Buganda, but don't have the balls to include Idi Amin.

>>720091815
>average MSX FM enjoyer

>>720087805 (OP)
>go woke go broke
Fake news

>>720088129
/thread

>>720093229
Oh it gets even better. It turns out the Egyptians and muslims who like islams golden age don't like the idea of having to be forced to play as Buganda, and their very white liberal CR reps went maximum overpol on their asses.

>>720092970
>dragon age veilguard and assassins creed shadows
Neither of these games would be good even if you removed the woke shit

i swear to god, everyone who uses "esl" or "brown" is a jew or a tranny, possibly both

>>720088045
Until all the people responsible are fired it will keep happening. Whole industry needs to be burned to the ground at this point

>>720087805 (OP)
Good, leftoids deserve to suffer, including their families.

>>720088045
the people who survived the layoffs needs to be fired too, then the people who survived the layoffs needs to be fired too, then...

>>720088830
overrated garbage

>>720088129
lol there isn't going to be a games industry for you feckless retards to parasitize in a few years, Western AAA is fucked.

>>720093829
>>720088045
>Until all the people responsible are fired it will keep happening.
How are you gonna fire investment firm CEOs?

>>720094089
>No one even cares if games are good anymore
>all they care about is which side of the current shitty mainstream media psyop the game is supporting
Future is looking bleak regardless of your political views.

>>720094001
this is the only solution. even if you fired 100% of them, they will be replaced with the same kind of people. you need to constantly fire them until they are broke, homeless and finally dead. once they are all dead they cannot replace the fired ones

>>720088336
Left-wing people consider meritocracy to be a form of fascism, and as such any left-wing organization or thing which caters to left-wing people will grow more inept over time. Only Right-Wing people are capable of judging things based on quality, but their telos-oriented mindsets tend to make them inflexible and uncreative.

Obviously what is needed is a sort of synthesis, which to my thinking takes the form of enslaving all left-wing people, and then forcing them to produce things with corrective actions by their betters, and regular beatings if they fail to meet targets. I think something might be made of the left wing pig, if he is given a taste of the lash whenever he fails or tries to make something gay or shit-colored.

Bring back slavery. Take a political psychoanalysis test at 15 and put everyone to the Left of Mussolini in a labor camp. Vidya would be much better if it were produced by actual slaves who can be actually whipped if they don't get the goddamn patch out.

>>720087805 (OP)
I guess in a way, Humankind was the Civ killer after all

>>720094259
This post glows in the dark

>>720094259
I can smell you

>>720087972
WE WUZ GENGHIS AND SHIEET.

>>720094259
Your nose is a mile long

>>720094334
whats your solution?
no solution means more of the same btw so choose your words carefully

>>720094393
Nobody needs to promote an alternate solution to proclaim that slavery is a horrible idea. Putting an end to slavery is the white man's work.

>>720092884
seething kek

>>720088225
>It's not selling because it sucks mechanically, not because "hurr durr le woke"
>You retards would call Civ 1 "woke" too

>>720094393
>whats your solution?
Go back to the gold standard, bring back traditional retirement plans, and lynch everyone that works in management at major banks or investment firms.

>>720094490
and where did that lead us too? sooner or later jews will enslave us too. its literally just a matter of time. be the enslaver or be enslaved

>>720094610
>sooner or later
Anon it already happened like 50 years ago

>>720094590
"gold stands" and being le trad was a standard for thousands of years. its not a jew-proof solution

>>720094334
>>720094356
>>720094381
I'm pretty sure Jews and browns end up enslaved under this system so I don't know why you're jumping on me for this.

>>720094610
We're not doing slavery, and we're gonna shoot anyone who tries.

>>720094638
and will happen again. they literally want a king (last chapter of the protocols) that will rule all. happened many times before and will happen again

>>720094829
What if we call it something else, like Correctional Productivity?

>>720094718
Its not that gold is some magic solution, its that giving a magic money printer to the same people that run the banks and investment firms was a completely retarded idea, also not being able to actually retire anymore is a tragedy and has resulted in rapid enshittification because more and more people need bigger and bigger slices of the pie, but the pie isn't actually getting any larger, so everyone keeps getting smaller and smaller pieces.

We need to get this speculative retardation and free money printing out of the economy, and allow people to actually retire properly without getting fucked by the same money printing investment firms.

The cost of living keeps going up, the value of your work keeps going down, and everyone is working until they die because they can't afford to retire. If life wasn't being made so intentionally horse shit for everyone aside from the bankers then art might be able to flourish again and people could stop stressing about needing to make record profits every quarter or go out of business because your shareholders all pulled out.

There’s no such thing as anti-woke. It’s called normalcy.
Faggots are losing and will die mad.

>>720094903
No. You get the penal labor system and that's it.

>>720094829
>and we're gonna shoot anyone who tries.
Slavery is still a pretty big thing outside of the west, with India having the most people living in slavery at the moment.

I thought that was the Burger King king from the thumbnail

>>720087805 (OP)
>IT'S LE WOKE
Or maybe, just maybe if we put on our thinking caps, we realize it's because Trump created a recession to help Israel commit genocide?

>>720087972
A good game needs zero marketing.
Bad games wont become megahits by just slapping a $300mil marketing budget onto it.

Advertisertards forget that people block ads, hate ads and purposefully avoid products that spam ads.

>>720091808
>>720093025
This. I would have actually been interested in that especially if it also had snitties
Too bad the competent devs are all gone.

>>720094965
Yeah, go figure that less sophisticated peoples think it's the bees knees.

why do wokefags come here and make themselves mad? are they trying to shorten their short lifespans?

>>720094918
the problem is that over time you can convince people that the gold standard is bad and that imaginary money is better. we are living in such times

>>720094996
>Or maybe, just maybe if we put on our thinking caps, we realize it's because Trump created a recession to help Israel commit genocide?
Anon, there hasn't been a president since JFK that wasn't directly taking orders from Israel. It doesn't matter which side you vote for, they're both taking orders from the same people.

>>720095037
They like being mad just like us, we are the same.

>>720094259
Rare funny /vpol/ post

>>720095037
They’re losing all over the place. and instead of trying to win the culture war they started and lost they come to /v/ to cry about losing in the gaming industry.

>>720095037
WokeGods are trying to make /v/ a better place. A bastion against the fascism taking over the rest of the Internet

>>720088129
>>720088225
>>720088336
these posters are jewish

>>720095037
It's extremely likely that I've been here longer than you. Like, 95% certainty. Making fun of you retards feels good.

>>720095112
>You're losing
>The pendulum is swinging
If that were the case, then by 2028 you would no longer be making threads where you complain that a game is woke, or threads like these where you're celebrating that a game you consider woke flopped.

>>720095223
You're brown

>>720095050
Anon do you know what bank runs are

>>720095187
>>720095112
There is literally no "winning" in a manufactured culture war designed to keep people angry at each other instead of angry at wallstreet.

Both sides of this "culture war" have a common enemy thats behind 99% of the shit they're angry about, but they're too eager fling shit at each other and scream about how 14 year olds with blue hair or christian parents are the reason why they live in an oligarchy

>>720087805 (OP)
>>720087972
These games need to be made by and for the same people going "VGH... Metternich's division of EVROPA might have brought nearly a hundred years of relative peace between all the powers, but it was sowing the seeds of greater wars".
Not niggers.

>>720095296
/vpol/ will never admit that unrestrained capitalism and muh free market is dogshit that lets the kikes take advantage of us. They'd rather just cry about woke.

just a reminder that the problems we are facing today happened 109 times in the past, and they ALWAYS come back. whats your solution?

>>720092884
But enough about your sisters, projecting tranny.

>>720095291
Bank runs were still a risk with the gold standard because they were still printing fake money with it, just not as much as they started to after the gold standard was put down. Usury is a civilizational issue and it needs to be corrected in our lifetime.

>>720094947
I guess we'll have to make do.

>>720094259
this post is largely correct and the way the japanese produce quality art is basically a byproduct of this with artists having their schedule and output entirely controlled by publishing houses. you can find similar occurrences in the comic golden age, with a slackening leash and increased freedom for artist creativity occurring alongside the fall of the western comic, as well as even with the rise and fall of literature in the public discourse with the british publishing house and the penny-dreadful.

>>720095268
Jews are brown

>>720087805 (OP)
Good.
i fucking despise woke fags and modern puritan leftist that ruined entertainment for so many years.
let people enjoy things god fucking dammit they turnet everything into a lame and boring politically correct shit show for toddlers and now almost everyone has been fucking afraid of adding a little of spice because someone may be offended. good thing your fucking age of boring tasteless innocuous shit is finally ending.

>>720095008
You're dumb.

>>720095481
a christian from bavaria is a bavarian, a jew from the pale of settlement is a white. no one is only white except jews.

>>720095542
Nah he's just being hyperbolic, but he's right.

>>720095364
Because it's not the case. If it were, they wouldn't need massive NGOs funded by the State via USAID to push this shit. It took one year of defunding that to see faggots and trannies basically vanish into the ether. It's all going to die slow now, it's just a matter of time.

>>720095527
le pendulum is swinging, amirite bro?
Surely by 2028 you will no longer be bitching about this.

>>720095364
>unrestrained capitalism
Believe me, we don't actually have this. The problem is that they bought the regulators and weaponised them.

>>720095589
>It took one year of defunding that to see faggots and trannies basically vanish into the ether
lol what? I still see the same amount of threads crying about trannies on /v/, so that can't be true.
>It's all going to die slow now, it's just a matter of time.
Uh-uh. See you in 2028 when you're still bitching about the newest woke game that came out and celebrating another woke flop, thinking that THIS time, it will finally be over.

>>720095375
absolutely right. we need more restriction. the most important one, jews should be banned from doing any transfers of wealth, including all of their middlemen

>>720095594
When the shitcolor is gone, and the anti-white pro-faggot nonsense is gone, and all of the cuckoldry is gone, then we will be done complaining about it, yes.

>this one angry faggot’s cope is 2028 for some reason
You’re gonna die angry and I feel great about it. The next few years where we take away more of your rights is gonna be glorious. Fay marriage is the next target after abortion btw.

>>720095682
Your observation of threads doesn't mean anything. Faggot "pride" month ceased to exist in one year. Everyone hates trannies now, and many devs have walked it back.

Why do you keep bringing up 2028? Are you reading from a script?

>>720095739
That's never happening, is the thing. So you will continue to complain. That's why the "Pendulum is swinging" posts are funny. Can't wait to see what games you will be crying about 6 years from now.

>>720087805 (OP)
Thanks be to God...

>>720095730
meant for >>720095364

>>720095759
Gay/fag. Sorry tried to combine both words lmao

>>720095814
It's okay to be gay. You don't have to be afraid

>>720095814
I just picked 2028 at random. Truth is you'll be bitching about woke games in 2026, 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2031, 2032, 2033, 2034, 2035, 2036, 2037, 2038, 2039, 2040 and so on.

Or at least until you grow up and stop being an idpol faggot. But you've probably been at this shit for 13 years straight, so I don't think that will ever happen either.

>>720087805 (OP)
it failed because it was bad, not because it was woke. also please ignore the couple years in gaymin.

>>720094174
With bullets

>>720095827
This is some next level cope, and every time I wonder if maybe my hatred is disproportionate I will remember it.

>>720095927
islam says otherwise. thankfully trannies will import enough of them to end homosexuality for eternity

>>720096113
Two more weeks, chuddie. The past 13 years of you bitching that there are developers that don't agree with you politically have resulted in nothing but this time it will finally happen. Non-woke gaming is just around the corner.

>>720094174
From a cannon.

>>720096176
The only silver lining of infinity muslims in the west is that gays and troons will all die forever.
I'm eager to see them hang in the fucking streets.

>>720095975
That's a very strange prediction to make, as it's baseless and clearly motivated by seethe--it doesn't really mean anything. You're just mad that you can't force people to enjoy shitcolor.

You're also clearly losing, so acting like your gay made up shit is inevitable is kind of funny. What's the point of this? Are you just seething so hard that you want to lash out or what?

>>720096278
joke's on them, daemon ex machina fucking sucked and I'm not playing this shit either

>>720096301
>as it's baseless and clearly motivated by seethe
It's not baseless at all, bro. This was you 13 years ago. This will be you 13 years from now.

What is the purpose of this shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5L43Qc7IFM

>>720094918
the problem is not the monetary system. its the people who will subvert it and in the end enslave humanity. the problem is jews

>>720096178
Their funding is gone, so yes, it will. We've already seen entire development studios crash and burn and there have been many open concessions. Concord was a greater victory for us than anything the enemy has had in 20 years.

>>720096524
Just remember how you thought you were finally gonna win when you see all the new woke games that make you seethe at this year's game awards. Two more weeks... Every two weeks. For 13 years straight. Into eternity.

>>720096575
all of them will fall as well

>>720096359
And now we've cut USAID and all of the funding to left-wing propaganda, so... We won. tangible, provable victories.

You're just mad that we fought and won, is that it?

>>720087805 (OP)
Good. All they make is trash. Get rid of HR. And make the administrators do the hiring them selves.

>>720096629
And more will be made after. Forever.

>>720096634
I'm sure you'll also have another tangible victory that will totally mean that woke game death will just be around the corner in 2035, too, man. And then you'll have to come up with another one, for the 53th time.

you cannot kill the jew but you can starve him

>>720096575
Hmm, not really seeing that so far this year, actually. Faggot pride month was basically cancelled, they canned that tranny game about illegal immigrants...

No it seems like actually we're winning, and slowly rolling all that shit back. I guess you guys just don't know what it feels like to lose, so you have to pretend that you're winning by losing tons of money and slowly having your power stripped from you. Is that it?

>>720096742
You forgot what thread you're in? You're in a thread that is talking about how a game released this year is woke, lil bro. Try going a whole year without doing that and then you can play the "We did it, reddit" card.

>>720096715
and hey will fall as well. everything that has a beginning have an end. even jews

>>720096715
You're not sure of anything at all. You're just mad that you lost, and you want some way to strike back while losing.

But appealing to the future while you're in the bunker in Berlin isn't really an own, kiddo.

>>720096841
>You're not sure of anything at all. You're just mad that you lost
Did you also tell me that in 2014? 2015? 2018? 2019? 2020?

You will be telling me this in 2035. Your delusion knows no bounds.

>>720096815
We're in a thread laughing about how leftists got their shit colored teeth busted out... Again.

So we won. Again. So you're saying that I should be upset because we won. What is the argument here?

>>720087972
YAAAAAAAASSSSSSS!
SLAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY!

>>720096912
>Again
Yeah, again, for the past 13 years. To another 13 years of your "victories"

>>720096887
I probably didn't, but you did lose in all of those years, yes. You helped us build a social and political movement that has now become mainstream and is effectively flattening you. Everything that is happening now is the undoing of all left-wing shitcolor. So... Again I don't get what you're saying. You've been fighting a losing battle to try and get people to like the color and taste of shit for ten years, and you've been losing constantly that whole time. Losing money, losing the public's support, losing social capital.

What exactly is the game plan here? Just keep doing it? The money is already running out, and USAID is now gone.

>>720097036
>but you did lose in all of those years
Exactly, and I will continue "losing" in 2035, 2045 and so on. Your pyric victories while woke games continue to come out and don't stop coming out will never cease.

>>720096953
Why are you bringing up your humiliating history of defeat as though it is an argument?

*sieg heils 360 noscopes*
nice

>>720097080
Because claiming that the pendulum is swinging while you've been claiming victory for 13 years straight is funny. Black mongolians are the lead up of your seemingly incessant victories. Let's look forward to what woke shit will exist on the industry on the lead up to 26 years straight of your supposed victories.

>>720097073
Well, no. Firstly it's spelled Phyrric. But secondly with each victory you lose more, we've definitely made progress.

If what you mean is that you will be gradually annihilated but it will take time--yes, it will. But each victory is a victory, and I do feel good about them. I will feel good about them in the future. The overton window will move, and gradually we will drive shitcolor out of the medium entirely.

When the only place I have to see faggots trannies and anti-whites is in indie games, then maybe I will stop.

>>720092575
>gamers: oppose woke like any other normal person
Normal people don't give a fuck about woke shit. The only people that care are the terminally online, the grifters, and lazy NEET faggots that don't have to work for a living.

>>720096506
>the problem is not the monetary system. its the people who will subvert it and in the end enslave humanity.
Then maybe we should design the system to be less susceptible to subversion?
With the current system democracy essentially can't exist, the country can never get better until we deal with wallstreet.

>>720097218
>When the only place I have to see faggots trannies and anti-whites is in indie games, then maybe I will stop.
You won't stop, then. Which is precisely my point. That's what's amusing.

Right now it's USAID. A year ago or so it was Blackrock. There will never be a shortage of new obstacles you conjure up. Anything to try to moralize how woke games will die soon for the rest of your life.

>>720092970
if you remove the blue tranny and turn yasuke into a japanese man both games are still mid at best

>>720097227
>Normal people don't give a fuck about woke shit.
That doesn't mean it appeals to them either.
While I'm not explicitly revolted by liberal ideas in a game, a lot of these developers are making bottom barrel by the numbers slop and their marketing nerds secured a fat stack of cash in exchange for all the DEI shit.
They were never trying to make good games that would appeal to people, they were trying to get subsidized by blackrock to release a write off

>>720087805 (OP)
stop with these bait threeads! i always respond, thinking about free speech, and i finally ban... just delete this! mods!!!!!!

>>720097295
Oh, I nearly forgot, Sweet Baby. Remember that boogeyman?

>>720097158
But it isn't funny. You're not laughing. You're clearly seething that we can tank studios for doing this shit, and acting as though there has been no progress. There clearly has, and we will continue pushing until we have won entirely. You obviously aren't actually looking forward to that as you're trying to dissuade people from "whining" (correctly pointing out shitcolor) in this very thread, which is about how we won yet another engagement with you.

>>720097317
>he actually believes in the Blackrock boogeyman

>>720097437
Civilization wasn't this woke 13 years ago. CRPGs weren't this woke 13 years ago. There was no such thing as "Type A" and "Type B" 13 years ago, or even 6 years ago, for that matter. There is no progress. You're deluding yourself like you've been doing for 13 years straight, and like how you'll be doing for another 13 years. And for the rest of your life.

>>720097295
But it isn't amusing to you, and you don't have a point. You're saying "you'll keep fighting and winning" like it's an argument.

Why would I not keep fighting and winning? Should I fight and lose instead? Also I think you will eventually run out of capital and backing to produce more shitcolor. This is not some eternal conflict between equals, your side is small, fake, and astroturfed, whereas ours is the entire consumer base. Obviously we are destined to win this. Is your point that there are people who will never be satisfied? Maybe, but I'm certainly enjoying our gradual victory, and being told that there are many, many more to come is not going to demoralize me.

>>720097617
Anon, for the record, I don't think you're coping. I don't think you're seething. I believe that you really are smugly self assured that woke is finally about to die and that your ebin culture war is going well. And I will also believe that you will still be thinking that in 2035. You'll just keep moving the goalposts forever. You'll die an old man satisfied on your death bed thinking that you got to witness your life's work as woke games were finally about to die in 2060 or whatever. And you will be ignorantly blissful while the wokeness continues after you're long gone.

>>720097617
I'm the ref. Wrap it up. OR ELSE

>>720097498
Its objectively a major part of the problem, I don't care if it became a normie meme to blame them for literally everything

>>720097536
Civilization 13 years ago didn't eat shit and result in a bunch of layoffs.

So, they try to make it more shitcolored, and it fails. That means we've won. You're just mad that you lost and trying to frame your failed attempt to shitcolor something as a victory because... You failed?

>>720097628
Well I'm glad you admit that I won, but wokeness is not something that continues, it will cease to exist in the next few years. I look forward to marching back over all of it and then brutally enforcing things that I like on YOU after our victory.

>>720097735
>it will cease to exist in the next few years
Hahahahahaha

It's a shame that by 2030 you won't remember you genuinely thought this.

>>720097774
Always with the long projections. I'll tell you what, on this day in 2030, I will come back to this board and mock you for being wrong. To make sure that I can reference this exact conversation I will post the word "Eurynome," which has probably never been used at any point before now on /tv/, so that I can find it again.

September 7th, 2030. Remember!

>>720097929
based

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/Eurynome/

I will indeed remember it. I will make sure to post this screencap on different threads multiple times that day. See you there!

>>720097735
This shit just goes in waves anon, when I was 14 the boogeyman was angry christian parents and boomers that didn't like that video games weren't adhering to their strict christian values. When the pendulum swings the other way, you'll be just as pissed off at the conservatives taking shit too far and being obnoxious about how other people are allowed to have fun.

The only difference this time is that the swinging of the pendulum is being subsidized by the wealthiest people in the world because the further it swings to one side, the angrier people will be at each other instead of them. The same people pushing woke shit are pushing the right wing grifter shit. Its two sides of the same coin being snatched up and stashed away in their scrooge mcduck vault.

>>720097227
>Normal people don't give a fuck about woke shit
I guess that's why they didn't buy this shit, concord, and veilguard

>>720098381
>I guess that's why they didn't buy this shit, concord, and veilguard
Honestly, the biggest reason is because /v/ has way more influence than people think, and real word of mouth/grassroots attention from somewhere like /v/ translates to a lot of attention outside of /v/, because people will take all of the OC and funny jokes/memes people come up with on here and start spreading them around on twitter, facebook, reddit and tumblr.
if the only memes or opinions coming from /v/ about a game are extremely negative, thats gonna slowly seep out to other social media sites.
This is basically how most of the major indie game hits in the last 15 or so years have gotten as big as they are, or at least a large portion of the early ones.

Shit like Minecraft and Five Nights at Freddies would have never gotten as big as they are if not for all the attention and OC the games got on /v/ early on in their lifecycle.


Also bad games are just bad regardless of how woke they are, and concord and veilguard just didn't look like good games. Even if you were to remove every "woke" thing from these games, there's nothing really appealing about either of them. They have generic cookie cutter gameplay, unappealing art directions, and absolutely no personality or charm.

>>720098587
>Shit like Minecraft and Five Nights at Freddies would have never gotten as big as they are if not for all the attention and OC the games got on /v/ early on in their lifecycle.
Minecraft maybe, I didn't keep track.

But you're absolutely delusional on FNAF.

>>720098587
That explains a lot of the obvious shilling for shit nobody plays like AC Shadows

>>720098654
>But you're absolutely delusional on FNAF.
Anon I specifically remember when the game originally came out and there were constant threads on /v/ about it. For the first few days people were just appreciating the game for what it was, but then the furry OC comics started happening and the amount of people interested in the threads exploded, which in turn caused all the furry comics about the game to spread to other social media sites, which got people curious about the funny game with the sexy robot animals, and it spread to youtubers from there.

Without the memes and jokes from /v/ the game never would have been anywhere near as popular as it was.

>>720098754
Where does Endless Legend fall into this?

>>720098381
>shit, concord, and veilguard
I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that those games were complete trash and ass.

>>720087805 (OP)
Why not just make xcom 3 instead of more shitty Civ games?

>>720098587
>Shit like Minecraft and Five Nights at Freddies would have never gotten as big as they are if not for all the attention and OC the games got on /v/ early on in their lifecycle.
This is the most delusional shit I have ever read. FNAF got popular because of streamers like Markiplier, and Minecraft became popular because it was basically video game legos for adults. It had nothing to do with /v/.

>>720087805 (OP)
All they had to do was just make it like V and it would have sold 100 morbilion copies.

>>720095527
and its being replaced with the exact same puritan bullshit only with a few of the words changed
congratulations.

>>720098913
Anon its okay to just say you weren't around when these things happened.
I was literally in threads on /v/ talking directly to Notch about what he should do with his barebones infiniminer clone. /v/ is where he was told to turn it into 3D Dwarf Fortress, and Minecraft used to even have a "THANKS /v/!" splash screen back in the day. I bought my copy of the game for like $3 USD back when he first started offering keys to people on 4chan.

>FNAF got popular because of streamers like Markiplier,
And where do you think big streamers like Markiplier get their inspiration for new things to cover or play?
He was likely exposed to all the people talking about the game on social media, which was heavily encouraged by all of the jokes and OC coming from /v/ making the game more interesting to talk about, or just bringing in horny furries.

/v/ isn't quite as influential today as it used to be, but it still has a lot of subtle sway over general internet culture and the games industry.

>>720094089
>Implying the won't latch like parasites in either JP or CH gaming industries
Guess the silver lining here is that either they get overworked(japan) or get their organs harvested by the CCP.

>>720088336
>game is good years ago
>they go woke with all its implications
>game is now bad
It's not rocket science.

>>720098957
Personally, I just want a Civ game with a more robust single player mode designed around long games.
I love 4X games, but I kinda hate playing them with other people because it just takes 50 times longer to do fucking anything, and the game becomes extremely combat focused which is the worst part of 4X games.
I just want a Civ game that I can play like a survival/city builder/4X mashup.
Extended research trees, more specific eras, more random events and shit to discover around the map.

I occasionally get this craving to play a Civ game again, but I can't help shake the feeling that I'm basically just playing a stupid board game with CPUs, and the game being entirely balanced around multiplayer PVP makes it kinda boring and shallow if you aren't playing with other people.

>>720087805 (OP)
The forced disjointed midgame resets ruined it for me. The rest could of been fixed with mods like the previous games but that whole nation switching system was fucking retarded. The game actively punished you for winning.

>>720095112
>>720095187
>immediate cope and shitposting (which implies your beliefs are paper thin)

>>720099602
for >>720095267

>>720099260
>>game is good years ago
>Made by Developer that historically makes good games
>Developer that historically makes good games is bought out by a major publisher
>Developer releases one more game thats kinda okay - has potential but is more rough around the edges than usual for these devs
>Publisher hires on 500 new employees to work for the studio, all of them fresh out of an Indian gamer college and here on work visas
>Old developers have no creative control anymore and 99% of them leave the studio
>Publisher just replaces all of them with more Indians on work visas
>Spends 80% of the budget on marketing
>give CEOs and directors massive bonuses out of the budget
>take subsidies from large investment firms in exchange for adding propaganda to the game
>all of this goes directly to the CEOS and directors
>almost all of the dev time is spent on what coat of paint they should give to the most generic game possible according to their marketing team which has never played a game before or spoken to a real person in over 50 years
>game is now bad
>"Wow Developer that historically makes good games really went downhill after going woke, why would the liberals do this to me???"
>people will still look forward to new games by the "Developer that historically makes good games" team even though every developer from that team that made the good games they are known for left years ago and its just a new team of incompetent developers being micromanaged by men in suits that are given advice by aliens
>after 10+ years of Developer that historically makes good games exclusively making terrible games someone will write an article to the tune of "Is TREND CHASER 2000: ONLINE a true return to form for Developer that historically makes good games?"
>People will buy it and get disappointed that it wasn't like the games made by a totally different team of people with completely different motivations a quarter of a century ago
Its not rocket science

>>720095364
>>720095756
i have anti-pol fatigue

>>720087805 (OP)
Woke or not, no adult content = no buy

>>720088225
>>720087805 (OP)
Civ 6 was woke as fuck and sold millions. It also came out long after people got sick of woke.

>>720095542
Nah I'm right.
Best selling game of last year was an indie horror game made by a Roblox Furry in his spare time.
It had no marketing.
People heard about it from other people playing it saying it was good and bought it.

Concord, Sony's $800mil disaster that they spent 6 years on had a comic, Netflix animated series, movie, merch and everything planned from Day 1.
Like 600 people played it.

>>720088045
They know there's a problem, but they think it's the customer who's at fault.

>>720092146
Because every game up to this point was good but could be better. They kept trying new things trying to find the sweet spot to make it perfect. So it was worth seeing if the next one would be it even if it was normally one step forward one step back VII just nosed dived into shit. Almost all of their decisions make no fucking sense in the context that they had plenty of games to see what people liked and what people did not like. Really all they had to do was give you the OPTION to have your civ switch out and make it logical. No Zulu to China to America shit. It would of even mad things interesting for maps that were bad gens. Got a warmonger civ but can't find iron but got plenty of science boosts? Swap to a science civ. There was room for the idea to work.

>>720100082
We're slowly returning to an age where AAA might be an indicator of quality rather than budget sizes.

>>720100060
>Civ 6 was woke as fuck and sold millions
People were expecting Civ 5 with polish, lag is a big thing in video games because the development cycle is so long and marketing doesn't reveal too much. It's why woke games are still coming out after the market has made it abundantly clear it doesn't sell, it'll take another six or so years for the industry cycle back to normalcy.

>>720087805 (OP)
>Firedaxis

>>720100373
>People were expecting Civ 5 with polish
Honestly, at this point all I want from Civ is for the next game to launch without holding back features from the previous game as planned DLC/expansions.

>>720100082
>Best selling game of last year was an indie horror game made by a Roblox Furry in his spare time
What was it?

>>720100435
Oh Anon... I am so sorry.

>>720091808
You really want them making another XCOM after Chimera Squad?

>>720100505
I'm just fucking sick of it anon.
I either buy the game at launch and get a shitty gimped version that won't actually be on par with the old game until two or three years and half a dozen expansions are released, and at that point the game would cost me like $400

So buying the game at launch is a retarded waste of time and money because it won't be fun to play yet and I'm basically paying a premium just to have an unfinished game gathering dust in my steam library. OR I wait and buy the game on sale after all the DLC is already out, but at this point everyone has already moved on, no one cares to talk about the game anymore, and the next one has probably already been announced and will be releasing in a few months.

This obnoxious system they have for expansions/DLC effectively makes me feel like a fucking retarded no matter when I buy or play their games. They have somehow managed to find a way to make DLC feel bad no matter what you do, buy it day 1, buy the big discounted bundle, don't buy it at all, it all feels shitty.

>>720100702
>>720100435
anon you asking for something we aint had since like fucking civ 3? if ever?

>>720100702
>at that point the game would cost me like $400
Strictly speaking, each Civ game goes on a big sale towards the end of its lifespan, I picked up Civ 5 and all its expansions for ten bucks, could have picked up Civ 6 for about the same a year or so back. Speaking honestly, I just want a modernised and expanded SMAC, Beyond Earth was Beyond Disappointing.

>>720100739
>anon you asking for something we aint had since like fucking civ 3? if ever?
Yes.
Its not a huge ask, and it should really be the bare minimum that people expect. The sequel should at least on some level be an actual improvement on the previous games, adding more new shit that they hadn't thought of yet or couldn't do with older hardware.
Whats the fucking point of buying the new one if its just the old one again but worse, with a shittier new art style, and I still have to buy all the same fucking Expansion packs I already bought for 3 other Civ games?
Its obnoxious because the shit they cut out isn't even impressive or interesting anymore, its just extremely basic shit that really really should be in the base game.

So not only are we having basic features cut out of the base game to be resold to us later, but this also means that the post-launch content is almost entirely gonna be shit you've already played and bought before but with a shitty new coat of paint.
So we're not just being cucked out of content in the base game, but we're being cucked out of potentially new and interesting expansions that we haven't had before in previous games.

>>720100859
>Speaking honestly, I just want a modernised and expanded SMAC, Beyond Earth was Beyond Disappointing.
I kinda want a more customizable Civ game that has more of a focus on custom maps and leaders as a basic feature of the game rather than just something you get through mods.

Like I want the next Civ game to specifically support different planets and shit, maybe do deals to add something like an official Warhammer or Lord of the Rings mode, that kinda shit. I don't really trust them to make the game I want, so it would be good enough for me if they go into the next one from the start intending to have the best mod support yet.

>>720094174
With nooses and bomb threats. In minecraft of course

>>720101063
AOW4 did something like that but they ran into problems with it, the issue with having too much customisation is that the interchangeability of the civs and leaders robs them of any personality. You wouldn't want it all randomised every game, it's good to have set leaders, but leave in some customisation for the player to insert themselves and tweak things and have other civs run more or less on rails.

For kooky biomes, map conditions and probably reskins for different realities, that's fairly easy, balancing them would be hard, but fun if you could then throw the grimdark futuretech civ against the high fantasy sword and sorcery civ and have them at parity with their own gameplay systems.

>>720087805 (OP)
You can't cut back on funding! You will regret this!!

>>720095756
how has the last year been on your mental health if you don't mind me asking?

>>720102290
I completely checked out of the culture war because everything has gotten so much worse since Covid that I'm starting to panic about never being able to own a home or have a family, and I just can't bring myself to care about identity politics culture war shit when my future is slipping through my fingers and neither group involved in the culture war has any real direct impact on my life anyway

>>720098754
>endless space 2 isn't woke
now we're grasping

Civ 4 is the best one and old enough that nobody remembers it
Just remake graphics and slap 8 on it

>>720102551
>Civ 4 is the best one and old enough that nobody remembers it
Its still the one I play the most often cause I couldn't be fucked to buy any of the DLC for Civ V and then I skipped Civ 6 and 7 entirely

>>720087805 (OP)
if you remove all the women the game still sucks, the game plays nothing like the previous ones, that is why it failed.

>>720089135
how the fuck is the elephant trans?

>>720102685
>if you remove all the women the game still sucks, the game plays nothing like the previous ones, that is why it failed.
This is almost always true for every game that allegedly flopped because it went woke.
Its been like 15 years of people screaming about feminists, liberals and woke shit, and I've never seen a single example of a game that would have been good if not for interference from feminists/liberals/wokeshit. Every single "go woke go broke" game would have been a shit game regardless of the woke, you could remove every trace of identity politics or whatever and it would still just be a bad game because its a bad game.

>>720087972
She looks beutiful and any mongolian would be proud than a BIPoC woman of color is representing their culture.

>>720102685
>make shitty product destined to fail
>load it with women or browns
>when it fails, say it only failed because of bigotry
many such cases

>>720094362
We wuz khans and shieet get it right.

>>720100502
It outsold the year's copy-paste Call of Duty release.
10 million copies sold, dev made $33.6mil after Gabe and Tax man took their cuts.

>>720088336
>the idea that they prioritized agenda shit over making a good and functional game is /vpol/ shit
Go back to the GCJ faggot.

>>720098809
>>720099146
I looked up the archives for this game over half a decade ago when they were still up before the MGS V catastrophe and the first mention of FNAF was after Markiplier already got his hands on it. Revisionism, I'm afraid.

>>720099689
>>Made by Developer that historically makes good games
Firaxis? No good Civ game since IV.

Whenever I get the Civ itch I just play unciv for a few days and get it out of my system.

I hate how overdesigned everything became in the main games and how much they fragmented content through DLCs.

>>720104631
xcom 2 was great tho

>>720104879
And those guys made Midnight Suns, which was pretty fun. But it flopped so they got laid off.

>>720099689
>Publisher hires on 500 new employees to work for the studio, all of them fresh out of an Indian gamer college
There you go. So it was woke that killed it.
Concession accepted.

>>720095018
Kill yourself

Civilization series is a good meter for the state of the industry. None of the civ games were made by the same people as any of the previous entries. So every game sort of gives you a taste of the industry around the release.

>>720088129
based

So is this woke tranny obsessed with "/vpol/" some regular /pol/ schizo? He wasn't in these threads before.

>>720102814
High levels of woke hurt product quality. You're no longer getting the best skilled people, but requiring political and racial issues. You're spending more crucial dev time on meetings, and sensitivity readers, You're putting the message before quality concerns or audience desires, as we see in shit like the Actiblizz diversity matrix.

At the more extreme end like from that art director on avowed and from SBI and the like, you start demanding that the chuds hate your game, and start making changes specifically so they dislike the game more. You can see this process in action, on something like Shadow Gambit, where you see exactly all the time and resources SBI completely fucking wasted on shit that didn't help the game at all.

At the AAAA budget level, you really need all audiences on board. Giving up core gamer chud types is a losing move.

>>720087805 (OP)
These hack faggots went back to the well one too many times.

>>720105593
They copied shit from the Civ killer game, and did an even worse job of it.

>>720105563
Does it matter? Dude is just leftypol.

I like how some people just assume nufiraxis could just go back and make a good XCOM 3.
For them a company is still the same company if the name remains unchanged.

>>720102685
I didn't even check it out because of Tubman and that Mongol nigress ad
There are more people like it, some of these people maybe would have played the game

>>720088225
They would since they are brainless non sapient parasites repeating words.

>>720095421
>elf
Anon...

>>720092612
It wasn't woke enough. If it had come with a pamflet written with your blood, it would have sold better.

The woke is honestly just the turd frosting on a shit cake. The game fundamentally betrayed its fanbase by trying to ape another, far less popular and worse received 4X game for no reason anybody can figure out, and completely butchered the traditional civ gameplay that people liked.

Then on top of that you make all the default civs African unga bungas with literal who leaders and don't include civs that have been in the game since Civ 1. It's like they were trying to fail.

>>720087805 (OP)
>thing gets jeeted
>fails
>blame "woke"
I smell curry

>>720089058
>Shits all over the history that people value and
Civ always did that

>>720105904
Hiring jeets is woke, yes

>>720105582
High level of woke help products. It's being in the middle that is a problem.

Woke Boogeyman didnt have much to do with Civ7's issue: Gameplay evolution.

The problem was they alienated the core fanbase with weird ass decisions to throw the familiar mechanics that were staple of the series out and implement too encompassing of changes.
From Civ 4 to 6 they iterated. They made small adjustments and added new systems.

How fucking stupid they were to do what they did.

I swear this thread is just this leftypol schizo talking to himself.

>>720105930
Hiring whites is anti human. That's more important to avoid.

>completely change the game formula the fans enjoy for something totally dog shit and no one likes
>ITS THE WOMEN AND TRANNIES THE REASON ITS BAD!
So fucking tired of this lazy ass excuse. Its overused and just gives the devs a cop out.

>>720105930
Woke is the pretense for hiring jeets, they're just supremely greedy.

Maybe the game is just bad without any political implications?

>>720105893
>Then on top of that you make all the default civs African unga bungas with literal who leaders
Yes Africa civs like China and the Normans.

>>720106126
You're trying too hard

>>720106185
It's anti truth, aks anti human, rheoteric used by people to undermine human art.

>>720106283
White means evil. That is a fact.

>>720105754
And we know some of them played the last Xcom with the aliens.

>>720106445
>the last Xcom with the aliens.

>>720105893
Disagree. Woke is embedded in the core game mechanic of switching civs.

>>720105882
So queer you can't even shitpost straight. Give it a rest anon.

>>720105027
Anon if you think hiring Indian students to do a shit job for a fifth of the usual wage is a "woke" problem, and not a problem with wallstreet, you might be retarded.

>>720105932
How so? I'm seeing more compromises of woke shit where you allow for incredibly chudly, genocidal, facist actions, as well as incredibly woke shit. BG3 toned down it's gayness in patches and added more datable women.

>>720106104
The civ switching mechanic was driven by woke thinking, just as we saw with humankind.

>>720106514
The civ switching mechanic was honestly just them doing dumbass engagement studies and thinking: "Let's turn one long game that doesn't get finished into three smaller games that will!" That's how they go about shit.

>>720106236
If so, the developers are lying about the political implications. They're very clear of what they wanted, and that's to break up the idea of civilization into something made up of identical, interchangable parts that cross race and cultures.

>>720106647
Bullshit. It was copied wholesale from Humankind. And they were very up front and center about the progressive ideals they wanted to represent with it.

>two similar posts that oppose each other

Yep definitely the schizo talking to himself.

>>720106771
>And they were very up front and center about the progressive ideals they wanted to represent with it.
Like what?

>>720106568
nta, your kneejerk reaction is not neccesarily wrong, but you didnt consider that suits and middle management types, stockholders and ceo's etc are AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN 5-10 years out of touch with their audience. in the past all this really meant was that you'd get some cheesy will smith action flick a few years after its out of style, maybe some wave of horror films like insidious after its died out etc.
but at the current moment theyre chasing the 'modern audience' of trannies and twittards etc which rather than just being a forgettable entry, is actively harmful and repulsive to most normal people. it is a problem with wallstreet WHICH itself is a problem with wokeshit (in this current era).
i GARENFUCKINGTEE 10 years from now we will be flooded with 'edgy' (mainstream edgy) films/movies/games as the corpo's of 2035 suddenly reaise in their slow motion brains 'oh wait maybe people dont like trannies' while everyone else has already moved on to whatever waits for us next

>>720107119
It is baffling how internet at every moron's hand is somehow not making executives react to changes in society faster.

>>720107119
You keep saying they are pandering to trannies, where is all this media? Where are all the transexual character or stories, how many movies the past couple of years has had transexual characters?

>>720107119
He's clearly talking about using cheap foreign labor in game development, which leads to the modern games underperforming on several fronts and which isn't going anywhere because it has nothing to do with wokeness and everything to do with money. Are you sure you can be trusted with making future predictions when you struggle with 4chan posts?

>>720107119
>didnt consider that suits and middle management types, stockholders and ceo's etc are AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN 5-10 years out of touch with their audience
Not necessarily 'always', the 80s/90s really flourished because I think a large portion of these suits realized they're totally out of touch and have no idea what resonates with people anymore, so they would just throw moderately sized budgets at a dozen or so weird experimental projects made by someone with a passion, and they would hope that at least one of them would be a big hit.

I really want to just go back to that, no more suits and marketing dickheads telling kids what kids like, take that 800M budget from something like Concord and split it up into 200 4M budgets.
There's literally no fucking way Sony would have lost more money doing this than they did with Concord. But for some reason no one wants to have 50 exclusives releasing every year for the entire generation, they'd rather put not only all of their eggs, but all of their chickens in the same basket and then sprint at full speed towards whatever trend they think is the safest bet. Though, like you said, these people are 10 years behind the times, so they're going to end up investing almost a billion dollars to make some shit like a Battle Royale Hero Looter Shooter with battle passes and lootboxes but it also costs full price even though they treat it like a Free to Play game.

Regardless, this has nothing to do with the cheap indian codemonkeys point.
All I meant with that is that they aren't hiring indians to be woke, they're hiring them so they don't have to pay proper wages to their developers and hopefully have this massive team churn out slop faster than the small expensive team that made really good games could.

>>720107361
i think its that affect of 'people who know dont speak, people who speak dont know', it would be extremely tiresome for all the normal people in the world to constantly correct twitter/reddit users, which is why no one bothers, so they just see twitter posts with big likes and chase that

>>720107453
see what i mean, it would be tiring for anyone to respond to this obvious bait, but an exec would read this and see no replies and go 'yeah WHERE IS all this media hes right!'

>>720107518
why do you think cheap foreign outsourcing is not included in my post about execs being out of touch? it supports it, everyone has been talking for 3-5 years how DEI is fucking up coding (not just games, planes falling out the sky etc) and its going to take another 5+ years for any of the people in control of this to realise and course correct, which is why theyre still outsourcing to indians even after gta remasters

>>720107664
>and its going to take another 5+ years for any of the people in control of this to realise and course correct, which is why theyre still outsourcing to indians even after gta remasters
At that point the hiring managers will all be Indians and it won't be an option to stop hiring indians. They're extremely prone to nepotism and once they get into management positions they will abuse their power.

>>720107560
your are basically exactly correct so theres not much i can respond with, but i'll say that of course the compotency crisis is definitely compounding on top of the idea of 5-10 years out of touch, which is why your idea of splitting concord budget into 4 was literally not considered by a single exec even though its clearly the correct answer, and also why those chancer hits of 'lets just let him do what he wants' are more and more rare and theres more flops like megalovania or whatever the fuck it was called

if you work in the industry and a purple hair freak with a giant chin comes in and starts talking about how to the team about how there should be more representation in the video game

start looking for a new job, these people are a virus that won't leave until there is nothing left and only china and japan produces video games

>>720107664
>5+ years for any of the people in control of this to realise and course correct
They know, and they don't care, these are all people in their 80s and 90s, they literally will not live to see the consequences, after they buy it, it's not their problem.

>>720107748
this guy is right too what the fucks going on today

why do gcj raiders keep coming to /v/ just to copepost

you're done
it's over
normies have woke fatigue and are nooticing at unprecedented rates
pride month is cancelled for the foreseeable future
you'll never have your cultural stranglehold over the western zeigeist again
donezo
seethe and dilate

>>720087972
lol

>>720088829
Throwing the concept of civilization into the trash by forcing everyone to swap their own like it was a pair of clothes sounds pretty woke to me.>>720089510

>>720107560
>Not necessarily 'always', the 80s/90s really flourished because I think a large portion of these suits realized they're totally out of touch and have no idea what resonates with people anymore,

I saw an interview with Frank Zappa once where he said that it was much easier to work with the old generation of record executives than it was to work with executives from his own generation. He described the old record execs as old guys chomping cigars who listened to Sinatra and didn't get rock music so they'd just find people who had talent and let them work and see how it turned out. In contrast the boomer record execs Zappa worked with in the 80s and 90s who had been hippies figured they understood music and what was coming next so they were constantly telling him what he should be doing.

I think the "modern audience" crowd in the games industry thinks they know what the market wants and no matter how many times they're proven wrong they can't accept that they're out of touch and the consumer doesn't want what they're selling.

>>720088129
flop flop flop
keep coping keep seething keep dilating

>>720088225
This is a Trump board, faggot

>>720089640
minecraft
factorio

>>720090210
>agree with me or you're brown
why are troons still trotting out this outdated script

>>720106568
>hiring nonwhites is not woke
lmao

>>720108260
>no matter how many times they're proven wrong they can't accept that they're out of touch and the consumer doesn't want what they're selling.
At this point it almost feels malicious, like they've been getting away with making games specifically meant to psychologically manipulate people into getting nickel and dimed with the promise of a fun game that never comes, and now they feel entitled to huge profits for no effort, and they don't understand why "gamers" aren't just buying everything no matter what like they did for the first 5-10 years after the DLC Pandora's Box was opened.

Its like they lost their minds during a gold rush/feeding frenzy, and now that the consumer has grown a little wiser to their tricks and has gotten sick of being lied to through marketing material and paying for a shitty game that they get tired of after 4 hours.

We're at a point where a game costs $90 before tax and has a day 1 season pass that costs another $50 for the other 30% of the game, and the game is still gonna be full to the tits with chances to spend even more money on shit that should have been unlockable or earnable in game.
They've spent so long entirely focused on how they can further bastardize and monetize the hobby and take advantage of kids getting hooked on gambling that they've forgotten that their games aren't 100% going to sell just because they exist.
Like they've forgotten that they were lying about what their games were gonna be this whole time, and they get confused when people don't like the same low effort bottom barrel slop they keep churning out.

I'm honestly expecting the AAA market to completely collapse in the next few years. I don't think this business model is even slightly sustainable, and the major players don't actually know how to make a good product anymore after over a decade of intentionally making scams disguised as good games.

>>720090210
>try game
>it sucks because it's woke
>try game
>it sucks because it's woke
>try game
>it sucks because it's woke
>stop trying games that pattern match against previous experiences
No matter how much you people kvetch about it, you can't get rid of pattern recognition. People tried Civ VII, it fucking sucked.

>>720106576
>BG3 toned down it's gayness in patches and added more datable women.
Is this why I see less troons bringing bg3 up recently?

>>720107453
you keep talking about jeetness
where is it?
show factual proof that this is an actual consistent issue

>>720102480
>I completely checked out of the culture war
>Woke is finally dying, says increasingly delusional /pol/tard for the 13th year straight.
Right...

>>720108858
It'll never really die, it'll just evolve and get replaced with whatever keeps the population angry at itself instead of uniting to get angry at wallstreet again

>>720108832
I don't talk about those things

>>720089916
>woke games focus on being woke so the mechanics always suck.
this, case closed

>>720087972
Theres gonna be books one day telling people how showing off one ugly black person in any form of media can kill your marketing and credibility.

>>720088225
Two things can be true at the same time, retard.

>>720108942
>It'll never really die
I wonder why.

>>720109108
Because its a co-ordinated psyop funded by the global banking elites in an attempt to keep their vassal state in check?

>>720093518
>>720097305
>>720088336
It's always like this. The same goes for /tv/. Would all those shitty Marvel and Star Wars shows magically be good if they removed the black lesbian women or whatever it was that made them woke? Yeah, I don't think so.

>>720088336
>But it's bad mechanically cause it's woke and they hired trannies that can't design games
This is a fact

>>720097498
>Doubting the power and influence of jews
>In Anno Domini 2025
Anonymous...

>>720097498
t.

>>720109108
cause you retards are incapable of learning or self reflection lmao

>>720109225
Imagine being a jewess and naming your child "Vile"

>>720096278
Japan doesn't matter. They are behind on the whole woke wave by like 4 years. What's an old hat in the West is still fresh and exciting for them.

>game wasn't actually another pseudo-progressive thrash fire
>it's just the mechanics that were bad
There has probably never been a game with mechanics suffering as a direct result of being a pseudo-progressive trash fire as much as this one. Half the reason they copied humankind was so they could justify having "leaders" and have old civilizations evolve into shithole ones as though that is progress.

>>720108316
No it isn't most people here don't want to die for Israel kill yourself

>>720089580
>Durrr it's da JOOZ conspiring to make Vidya bad... Proof? N-no I don't have any it's da jooz

>CIV is literally a series about how each historical empire has strength and weaknesses IRL and that with the right direction anyone has the potential to come out on top

>jk you can be anyone and do anything and everyone has to be the same
how do wokies keep continuing to be the most racist out of anyone

>>720109408
>>Durrr it's da JOOZ conspiring to make Vidya bad
They aren't specifically trying to make videogames bad, they're trying to psyop western children/teens into chemically castrating themselves to speed up the revenge on the amalek

>>720109286
>They are behind on the whole woke wave by like 4 years.
Japan was releasing "woke" games long before the West ever realized there was a profit to be had.

>>720099260
>Implying there was never any bad Vidya sequels in the past.
You are a moron

>>720109464
Troons make up 0.3% of the population. They're not doing a very good job then are they dipshit?

>>720087805 (OP)
Richly deserved. The gameplay aspect was perfected long ago, with acceptable variances for sometime afterwards.
But they turned it into a cashcow DLC milking turd, with an obvious political slant, and instead of releasing versions with good gameplay but cleaned up for a modern system, they dilute every aspect, pleasing no one, not fans, or normalfags.

>>720109408
>What is BlackRock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTDdDgr-xYo

>>720109482
Piss off, I have been reading magical TG manga since maybe before you have been born (mid 00s) and there's nothing woke about it. It's a fetish or interest. The guy always get turned into biological girls so there isn't even dick involved at any point.

>>720109553
>Troons make up 0.3% of the population.
the LGBT community is at its biggest on the the zoomer population, the propaganda is working

>>720109142
>>720109267
why not bitch about the platform that not only started then dropped the movement like a sack of hot potatoes, but also had the majority of participants instead of /pol/ then?

>>720109638
>1 in 5 zoomers is gay or trans

>>720109553
Looks like they've already gotten to 20% of the kids, thats an awful lot of genetic lines to end

>>720109286
>They are behind on the whole woke wave by like 4 years. What's an old hat in the West is still fresh and exciting for them.
Didn't the PM of Japan just resign because everyone was so angry about his immigration policies?

>>720109670
Shut the fuck up.

>>720108530
When it's done just to save money, it's not woke, smartass. If anything, it's the opposite.

>>720109694
Only oversocialized low IQ teenagers get suckered into becoming LGBT deadends, so it's actually a very eugenical force.
>>720109768
The West or at least Europe was already angery about immigration 4 years ago. I mean it fuelled the rise of the AFD, Sweden Democrats and other such parties.

>>720109464
Why?

>>720095364
>unrestrained capitalism and muh free market
Do you have any fucking idea how many regulations governments have placed on the market? It is beyond restrained and not at all free.

>>720089069
>>720089580
>>720109408
Larry Fink

>>720109590
>there's nothing woke about it.
bruh, gender bender shit is ultra woke, it literally says "you are right to feel bad as a male, being a male suck, transform yourself into a female yayyyyy"

>>720109638
>Homosexuals and transexuals are the same

>>720109783
I think we should start a kumbaya chant instead.

>>720109902
they are both on the LGBT group that's for a reason no? homosexuals and transexuals are so much in love with each other they created a group just so that they can be together, and it's been that way for more than 60 years at this point

>>720109832
>Only oversocialized low IQ teenagers get suckered into becoming LGBT deadends
It was actually mostly autistic kids
Which is weird considering autistic people are particularly good at noticing patterns and lack the social graces to not mention it when they do.
I wonder which group of people would want to reduce the amount of potential noticing happening

>>720109963
autistic kids have their issue though, they can overcomplicate concepts and be obsessed about a single subject, that's why they're more likely to be extremists, whether it's being on the ultra right wing or the ultra left wing (troons)

>>720109963
Whites, obviously.

CIA is connected to ltierally every terrorist group on the planet. 100% of world wars were caused by Whites. Most colonalism that actually matters is woke.

>>720109859
A culture based on paranoid delusions and having a victim and god complex at the same time

>>720110021
>100% of world wars were caused by Whites.
what about the Islamic invasions during the 700's?

>>720109873
Compared to, what, the fifties? Let alone 99% of human history where merchants where massacred if they got too uppity?

>>720110021
>CIA is connected to ltierally every terrorist group on the planet.
You'll never guess which group compromised the CIA

>100% of world wars were caused by Whites
"Whites" isn't a unified group or culture, and you're saying this as if War only started being a thing with the British Empire and before that everyone was just playing around

>>720109005
It will be called "memories of a extinct people". And it will list white people right next to the dodo.

>>720097498
>the Blackrock boogeyman
Its own CEO is on record saying that their DEI practices will have to be 'rebranded' because the public knowledge of them is the reason they failed.
Calling it a boogeyman at this point is kind of fucking retarded, honestly.

>>720109590
>magical TG manga
So you see a game literally called Trans and somehow your pea brain think it has something to do with your tranny power fantasy?
The game called Trans is literally about fucking trannies.

>>720109859
They're jews it's what they do
The 109 were no coincidence

>>720109638
Do you know why those numbers are so high? Because there are now hundreds of different identities you can adopt to be part of the alphabet gang. You can be 100% straight and still be LGBTQ+ because you're "demisexual" or some other meme sexuality. Not to mention all those people (mostly women) who say they're bisexual because they kissed a girl at a party once, but they exclusively date and fuck men.

Gen X and older don't know about all that shit, so when they're asked, it's just a question of whether they're gay or not. Many of them don't even know about trannies.

>>720110065
Compared to no regulations at all.
>Let alone 99% of human history where merchants where massacred if they got too uppity?
Wealthy merchant lords have always existed. Every system can be played and getting wealthy is just a matter of knowing how to play it.

>>720110259
>Many of them don't even know about trannies.
must feel good to not know shit about those crazies desu, sometimes ignorance is a bliss

>>720110259
>You can be 100% straight and still be LGBTQ+ because you're "demisexual" or some other meme sexuality.
Demisexual pisses me off so much because thats literally just "someone that actually wants a relationship"
Its like they're so fucked from being raised by internet porn and hookup culture that the idea of being in a relationship with someone after you form an emotional bond is this weird alien shit.

>>720110260
it's not about being rich, it's about screwing people over it, that's why they cut kings head in France because not all kings are equals, those who had their head chopped off were too uppity, that's all there is too it

>>720110364
>the idea of being in a relationship with someone after you form an emotional bond is this weird alien shit.
to be fair, love and romantism is a really modern concept, 60 years ago, all relationship were transactional and based on forced marriage

>>720097232
what monetary system did nazi germany have?

>>720109960
>homosexuals and transexuals are so much in love with each other they created a group just so that they can be together

You have no idea how many of the LGB want a "divorse" from the T because they can't stand them.

>>720109108
Because right wingers keep undermining themselves and have zero cultural influence due to being beholden to a insane doomsday cult who wants to revive their dark god and wipe out all human civilization?

It's like playing Fire Emblem Genealogy of the Holy War and wondering why the Loptus church has such a issue gaining cultural influence.

>>720110471
The same one we have now which is why they were so pissed off, then they tried to break away from it and had to go through one of the largest humiliation rituals in human history to atone for the sin of trying to break away from the global banking system

>>720110475
>You have no idea how many of the LGB want a "divorse" from the T because they can't stand them.
it's not happening though, as long as the separation is not official, they are still considered "married", you fags better do it at some point, you will always be associated with those lunatics if you don't drop the T

>>720109832
>The West or at least Europe was already angery about immigration 4 years ago.
Mostly subhumans that are easily taken in by charismatic figures. Not actual people.

>>720110064
They weren't world wars. Otherwise they were mostly about the local people being fed up with teh inept rule of the Eastern Roman Empire, the Sassanids, and various Spanish kingdoms.

>>720110510
>Because right wingers keep undermining themselves and have zero cultural influence due to being beholden to a insane doomsday cult
lmao

>>720110510
>zero cultural influence
the man who made DOOM is a chud though
https://www.pcgamer.com/doom-co-creator-john-carmack-is-headlining-a-toxic-and-proud-sci-fi-convention-that-rails-against-woke-propaganda/

>>720110189
I'm not like you and don't have a vast indexical knowledge of trans fiction, lad.

>>720110364
It's just ridiculous. Just wanting a relationship is such a common thing. How the fuck does that qualify as queer?

I know a guy who goes on and on about being "demi" and everybody mocks him for it, including gays. "Oh, does that mean you only want to fuck Demi Moore" or references to the Demi spells in Final Fantasy.

>>720110260
>Compared to no regulations at all.
Which has literally never existed outside of the actual stone age.

>Wealthy merchant lords have always existed.
Yes, and they did so by keeping their head down and knowing when to bend the knee to a king.

>>720110364
>>720110652
they even included "racial minorities" on that flag, that means the muslims who want to chop the fag's head off are on the community aswell lmao

>>720110596
The same man who basically said "Games stories don't matter"?

Literally the only cultural influence Doom had was being a controversy magnet. Ironically mostly for people that now claim to be against woke due to censorship.

>>720110652
>Just wanting a relationship is such a common thing. How the fuck does that qualify as queer?
My wife literally makes fun of me for this and calls me LGBT because I started dating her because I love her as a person, thinking she's beautiful is just a bonus. I just don't really get the point of trying to spend the rest of your life with someone based entirely on looks that will eventually fade rather than them being someone you legitimately want to spend the rest of your life with. But apparently loving my wife makes me LGBT

>>720110706
>The same man who basically said "Games stories don't matter"?
Shiguero Miyamoto said the same thing, you're gonna hate the creator of Mario too?
>Literally the only cultural influence Doom had was being a controversy magnet.
based, without Doom and Mortal Kombat paving the way, we wouldn't have gta and violent games allowed nowdays

>>720110706
>Literally the only cultural influence Doom had was being a controversy magnet.
There is no way you aren't taking the piss, Doom is arguably one of the most influential videogames ever made.

>>720110706
>>720110764
>Doom is arguably one of the most influential videogames ever made.
this, this troon is so delusional he thinks DOOM has no influence on video games, lmao

>>720088129
absolutely based

It's funny because Civ of all series probably has the most captive audience. So they tried to do the woke meme thing of "the real audience will buy it anyway, we can put niggers everywhere to sell it to the mythical modern audience", while of course fucking up the game itself too. If not even civfags buy your game, you fucked up on a monumental level

>>720088129
>we will keep replacing our layoffs

>>720110759
>Shiguero Miyamoto said the same thing, you're gonna hate the creator of Mario too?
No? But the cultural influence of Mario is pretty small as well due to the lack of real storytelling. At best you can argue it's famous in it's own right.

>based, without Doom and Mortal Kombat paving the way, we wouldn't have gta and violent games allowed nowdays
If it wasn't for right wingers losing the cultural war.

>>720110764
It's influential on FPS games. Even then, the likes of Call of Duty and Halo are probably more overall important to the DNA of the genre as it actually exists in the mainstream today. And when it comes to actual story, it had zero influence. It wasn't like everybody was trying to make stories about fighting Demons with guns afterwards, not even within video games.

>>720111020
>the cultural influence of Mario is pretty small

>>720110619
You need vast knowledge to know that a game called Trans is about trannies?
Try reading something other than tranny power fantasy manga because your brain is rotted.

>>720087972
Blacks were NO samurai
NO ninjas
NO shoguns
NO knights
NO wizards (different than voodoo shamans)
NO vikings
NO celts
NO greeks
NO romans
NO pharaos for that matter
And any company that tries to sell that shit as historically accurate deserves to be sued for everything they own. Some goes for muslims btw, because I know there are some aggressive players out there trying to sell vikings as muslims.

>>720110706
>Literally the only cultural influence Doom had was being a controversy magnet.
>>720111020
>It's influential on FPS games.
you're really bad at this, I'll give you a 3/10 and I'm being nice

>>720110841
The modern mythical audience would exist if they actually sold the game as genuine white genocide kino instead of being halfway about it.

>>720111020
>It's influential on FPS games. Even then, the likes of Call of Duty and Halo are probably more overall important to the DNA of the genre
Anon, this is like saying Mario 64 barely had any influence on the industry because Mario Odyssey is more recent

>>720088225
>>720088336
My money is on these two being pajeet posts. Jewish posters are just as bad, but they usually type a bit more.

>>720110657
>knowing when to bend the knee to a king.
Which is exactly what billionaires do today.

>>720111147
>>720111020
I think xe/xir is trolling at this point, I refuse to accept someone can be this dumb

>>720111052
Yes? Point me to all of the stories about Italian plumbers saving Princesses from Dragons.

>>720111087
Wrong.
Wrong
Yes.
Wrong
Wrong.
Wrong
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.

>>720110510
Let us see, in the past year alone we went from
>Biden is perfectly lucid wtf are you talking about
to
>okay we need to pull him a few months from the election
>FACIST DICTATOR LOVER
to
>the primary doesn't really matter anyway give kamala a billion dollars and let her run wild
>we can't let anyone abuse pardons to
to
>it seems fair to give a family member, and primary medical advisor during the pandemic a decade long pardon for any and all crimes
>what Epstein files?
to
>YOU WANT TO POST A CAT PIC RELEASE THEM NOW!!
>the elections are locked up tight
to
>YES! the republicans stole the election! This shit is a scam.
And many more.

>>720110442
>60 years ago
200 years ago

>>720111217
>you can only influence the video game ecosystem through stories
lol, lmao even?

>>720111217
Care to share some examples of each then? You can leave out the black samurai.

>>720111107
I'm being honest, you fucking subhuman. If you were human, and thus able to argue, you would understand that.

>>720111147
Super Mario Bros for the Nes had more influence on gaming than Mario 64, actually. Much like Halo and Call of Duty are more influential on FPS games.

>>720111217
>Yes? Point me to all of the stories about Italian plumbers saving Princesses from Dragons.
Bowser isn't a dragon tho

>>720111285
>Super Mario Bros for the Nes had more influence on gaming than Mario 64,
>>720111217
>Point me to all of the stories about Italian plumbers saving Princesses from Dragons.
I thought a game without stories couldn't be influencal?

>>720111285
They both did, I just mentioned Mario 64 because the influence it had on modern games is much more obvious than Super Mario Bros.

>Halo and Call of Duty are more influential than Doom
Aside from making it a standard to replace medkits with bleeding eyeballs, what did they contribute to the genre that Doom didn't?

>>720111285
>Much like Halo and Call of Duty are more influential on FPS games.
There are probably more people still playing the original Doom right now than people still playing any of the Halo games

>>720110336
Trannies don't really exist in the real world. 99% of the time I hear about them is on this board. If you stay away from parades, and never go on sites like twitter and tumblr, you most likely never have to deal with them. There's the occasional one in video games and movies, but they can easily be avoided by not consuming the worst slop.

Not defending them in any way, but they are not the kind of nuisance this board makes them out to be.

>>720111249
nah, people on the 50's only got married through transactions

>>720087805 (OP)
They went woke back with civ 6 and that one sold bigly.
Civ 7 was a chud game
So go rightoid go broke more like

>>720111217
you need some real help, anon. good luck.

>>720111450
retard

>>720111409
>Trannies don't really exist in the real world. 99% of the time I hear about them is on this board.
>but they are not the kind of nuisance this board makes them out to be.
then explain how "such a tiny tiny minority" has so much influence on the modern game ecosystem?

>>720087805 (OP)
should have fired the woke consultants instead

>>720111405
Doesn't change influences, anon.

>>720111380
>I just mentioned Mario 64 because the influence it had on modern games is much more obvious than Super Mario Bros.
Cause of the glut of 3d platformers we have today, right?

>what did they contribute to the genre that Doom didn't?
Most of the central design ethos, aesthetic, and gunplay.

>>720111326
>I thought a game without stories couldn't be influencal?
It can't be all that influential, yes.

>Super Mario Bros for the Nes had more influence on gaming than Mario 64,
Yes.

>>720111515
>then explain how "such a tiny tiny minority" has so much influence

>>720111450
For a start, the 50s weren't 60 years ago.

>>720111565
>Cause of the glut of 3d platformers we have today, right?
I think you might just have a weird idea of what it means for something to be influential if you think the only indicator of Mario 64's influence is the amount of copycat 3D platformers being made

>>720090210
You will never be a woman.

>>720111582
it's still closer to 60 years than 200 years lol >>720111249

>>720111570
>tumblr gif
>static image
dude...

>>720111660
I just googled the phrase and saved the first image that wasn't a webp, built a new computer recently and I'm lacking my usual collection of reaction images

>>720090210
>nooo don't boycott the woke games! you'll be hurting the sales and developpers will be weary of adding woke shit on their next games!
that's what we want actually, KEEP DOING NOTHING CHUDS

>>720087972
This was a joke vid. She called a land puddington and had a banner with pudding.

>>720111515
How many games have this feature, and how many of them are big games a lot of people are likely to play? And a video game is not the real world.

>>720111282
>Ninja
Islamic assassination orders existed in Africa.
>Knight
Depending on your defintion of knighthood many muslim countries had knightly orders.
>Wizard
Many wizards in Greek stories were described as either having black skin or being from Africa.
>Viking
https://www.justaddcoloronline.com/2025/03/03/a-black-astrid-the-true-history-of-viking-diversity-and-black-vikings/
>Celts
Celtic kingdom in Small asia.
>Greeks
Multiple Greek colonies in Africa with African population.
>Romans
Emperor from Numidia.
>Pharaoh's
Nubia Pharaoh.

>>720090347
we won the culture war in 2024 when Trump was elected again though

>>720111698
what evil lurks, i must destroy!

>>720097227
This, it's funny to see /v/ fall for outrage stirred by anti-woke grifters since normal people don't care about anti-woke complaints.

>>720110475
It's not that they can't stand them, it has more to do with the fact that they are asking for different things.
>>720110548
Oh please even if the T was dropped not a damn thing would change for you people

>>720111242
>Muh whataboutism
Irrelevant. Republicans support a doomsday cult that want to end all human civilization by reviving their dark god and having him rule the world.

If anything ,taht by default justifies everything the democrats do. If they stole the election: Good. They have to defeat the doomsday cult before they literally end humanity.

>>720111798
>How many games have this feature
there's a lot of games with "body type 1/body type 2" nowdays, one of the GOTY (elden ring) has that for example

>>720111609
Then YOU define cultural influence, fuckface.

How did Mario 64 influence culture as a whole? Too hard? Then at least explain how it influnced video games.

>>720111798
>it's just one woke thing on that game, not a big deal
>it's just two woke things on that game, not a big deal
try to guess why doctors must eradicate a cancer before it's too advanced? if you don't gatekeep now, it'll be too late and it'll be the new normal

>>720111974
That fight ended a long time ago.

Every game is woke nowadays.

>>720111885
>become worse than your literal strawman
>muh whataboutism

>>720112013
>Every game is woke nowadays.
not all, our futur GOTY isn't

>>720087805 (OP)
bump limit
post porn

>>720091310
Lol, are you telling me that BG3 didn't make a profit? How is that possible? Did it really cost that much to make ?

>>720111929
>Then at least explain how it influnced video games.
Mario 64 basically established the framework for how nearly every game with full 3D movement would function going forward.

I'd say its partially one of those things you "had to be there for" like living through Pokemania to be able to understand why it got so big, but really even as someone that was too young to be there for these older games, you need to keep in mind that a lot of the shit thats just considered "basic" and "standard" today was at one point revolutionary. Doom and Mario 64 are two of the most influential games in this regard. You're only thinking about what came after, but not thinking about what came before these things. Its easy to only look at what came after and assume it wasn't really a big deal, but if you look at what came before you can start to see more of the shit that you didn't really see in games before these ones came out and became massive.

>>720109638
>the propaganda is working

It is; but its questionable how well the social contagion holds up when it ceases to be trendy. The machine has worked very hard to try and normalize gender bending; but the pendulum seems to be swinging back and the tolerance of the people to this madness has been pushed beyond its breaking point.

Some of these zoomers will tell you they're queer when they've got a social system of teachers, therapists, and family encouraging their madness; but at the point that those social systems of reinforcement break down and the society is no longer being threatened to constantly tolerate madness and perversion, at the point that ostracism returns and the queer lifestyle ceases to be a way for outcasts to find acceptance and instead turns into a mannerism that damns you to being even more of an outcast. At that point will the zoomers still be queer? I have my doubts.

>>720109960
Yes they are both part of pride but they are part of it for different reasons. A communist can ally themselves with an anarchist but they only thing that units them is that they are both on the left side of the political spectrum. The same way a monarchist can ally with an fascist.

>>720112123
>Lol, are you telling me that BG3 didn't make a profit? How is that possible? Did it really cost that much to make ?
On one hand I find this really hard to believe, but I wouldn't be surprised if a large portion of the game's "budget" was spent on supplemental material for the game, marketing, other shit like this.
Not to mention that Larian scaled up the company quite a bit before making this game, they hired on a bunch of developers that left other studios, which is why the game now has those awkward Bioware animations. I have my doubts that the game actually failed to make a profit, but it might have to do with Larian getting too big

>>720112167
>Yes they are both part of pride but they are part of it for different reasons.
so homos are associated with troons, if I associate with the KKK you will hate me because you hate the KKK, that's how it work

>>720110105
>which group compromised the CIA
White pride, white nationalist and Christians Theocracy groups

>>720112101
>futur GOTY
Sounds about right.

>>720095564
lmao
zogbots on full, unashamed swing

>>720089034
she doesn't mention bfs, just "mates".
Considering she's a loli/shota queen, I'm not too concerned about her bussy being blown out.

>>720112167
the friends of my enemy aren't my friends
https://youtu.be/Mh5LY4Mz15o?t=463

>>720111702
This isn't a boycott. You were never going to buy the game in the first place.

>>720109582
>jew
>thinks people are dumb animals that need to be trained
Every single time

>>720112370
>You were never going to buy the game in the first place.
I'm a fromsoftware fan, and I wanted to buy Elden Ring, and I didn't because of the body type 1/2 thing, so yeah, you're talking out of your ass, again

>>720111078
First you get angry because I can't immediately identify the tranny manga you like so much, then you say I read them all the time because I like magical genderbender manga -- make up your mind.

>>720112127
>Mario 64 basically established the framework for how nearly every game with full 3D movement would function going forward.
Not really, no. If you actually knew about game development you would udnerstand this. Not to say it had no influence, it did, but it was neither the first nor the most influential.

>Doom and Mario 64 are two of the most influential games in this regard
They were influential at the time. That does not change teh fact that tehy have long been surpassed and part of the reason why they have been is due to their lack fo merit when it comes to storytelling. Even if they were techologial important, and they were, that is all tehy really ahve going for them. They were at best a step to get where we are today. It's like saying the wheel was influential on Chariots.

And, again, all of this is purely within the context of video games. Outside of games both have absolutly nothing. Mario Kart has more influence on popular culture as a whole. Call of Duty and Halo basically were video games for several geneartions. Doom? Eh, it's somewhat emblatic for the second half of the 90's when people don't use Duke Nukem. Mario 64? Lol, Nintendo 64 platformers are basiacally a punchline for cultural irrelevance.

>>720112370
If he was always going to do nothing, then why is it that we blame him for things failing which he had nothing to do with?

>>720112450
>They were at best a step to get where we are today. It's like saying the wheel was influential on Chariots.
Yes? Thats how this works
Also wtf does writing have to do with this?

>>720112450
>They were influential at the time. That does not change teh fact that tehy have long been surpassed
it's like saying we shouldn't care about La Joconde anymore because it's old and we can draw better things nowdays, that's dumb, we always respect precursors, the history will always remember them, cope about it

>>720112520
>Yes? Thats how this works
Which is different from having a influence on the way games are designed.

>Also wtf does writing have to do with this?
It shows their lack of actual cultural influence.

>>720112589
>having a influence on the way games are designed.
good thing that DOOM is so influencal, there was so much copycat of that game we now call those games "DOOM-like"

>>720110596
>the man who made DOOM is a chud though
https://twobithistory.org/2019/11/06/doom-bsp.html
he also invented the Binary Space Paritioning method that optimised the 3d render so much, every game used it for more than 20 years

>>720111974
You're right, it's not a big deal.

>>720112751
>the mask is off
was about time, weed

>>720087805 (OP)
Civ 6 was also woke and a commercial success.

>>720112806
FF14 is a good example on how adding too much woke can kill the momentum

>>720112550
>We always repect precursors
Lol. Imao.

>the history will always remember them,
Doesn't change the fact they have no merit other than being a step.

>>720112672
>There were so many
For about about, what, 6 years?

>>720112840
>>We always repect precursors
>Lol. Imao.
(You)

>>720112839
It's not, actually.

>>720112806
Riding the expectations and good will left over from Civ 5

>>720112880
how does it feel that the biggest commercial failure of media's history (Concord -> 400 millions down the drain) is a ultra woke game?

>>720112940
Civ 5 was also woke.

>>720112878
Right wingers are literally incapable of respecting precursors because they lie and make shit up about them constnatly while stealing valor from them for any actual accomplishments.

>>720113005
>Civ 5 was also woke.
Elaborate

>>720087805 (OP)
>everyone agrees civ4 is the best
>they make 3(THREE) more games after that they are worse and different than civ 4
WHY DONT THEY JUST MAKE GOOD GAMES
THEY ALREADY DID IT ONCE
JUST DO IT AGAIN
FUCK

>>720112780
Yes, that's totally comparable to weeds in the garden. Are you guys for real lmao.

>>720112963
>Biggest comericial failure of media history
Good because it highlights how little you know about media history in comparision to me.

>>720113005
>they lie and make shit up
says the party who claims that men can be pregnant btw

>>720113025
Had black people.
Had women leaders.
Had mechanics about global warming, religion being made up bullshit invented by humans, white genocide, and killing chuds being objecitivly good.

>>720113060
>too dumb to understand analogies
yep, that's the litteracy level I expect from woketards

>>720112229
Sure on the surface level, but surface level is for the shallow and the ignorant. Do you associate with the KKK because of their ideology or have you found yourself with them for another reason?

>>720113072
Which isn's a lie or something they made up. You would understand this if you had the basic ability to reason needed to at least be able to disagree, rather than simply not understand, gender theory.

I don't agree with it, by teh way. I simply understand the difference between a lie/making shit up (Which is what repuiblicans do) and simply having a wrong theory (Which is how i feel about gender ideology).

>>720113102
>Had black people.
Not woke, they were their own civs
>Had women leaders.
Not woke, historically accurate
>Had mechanics about global warming
Did not
>religion being made up bullshit invented by humans
Not woke
>white genocide
Elaborate
>killing chuds being objecitivly good
Did not

>>720112780
There is nothing wrong with having weeds in your garden, they aren't killing it because they are actually a benefit to it.

>>720113117
>Do you associate with the KKK because of their ideology or have you found yourself with them for another reason?
does that matter? if someone associate with the nazis just because Hitler wanted to protect animals, that's not a valid approach, that person can find another group that likes animals and doesn't want to exterminate a group they don't like

>>720113172
>Which isn's a lie or something they made up.
>I don't agree with it, by teh way.
Why do you not agree with something you consider to be "truth" (men can be pregnant) then?

>>720113182
>Not woke
Yes it is, stop lying.

>They were their own civs
Still are.

>Had women leaders
Being historicalyl accurate is woke.

>Did not
Yes, it did.

>Not woke to say religion is false
Objecitvily false.

>Elaborate
You are openly encouraged to do white genocide when playing as most Civs.

>Did not
Barbarians are chud coded and killing them is good.

>>720087805 (OP)
hahaha get fucked get fucked!

>>720110706
>The same man who basically said "Games stories don't matter"?
hes right
only gameplay matters
quake and doom were popular because of gameplay not story
every successful game ever is popular because the gameplay is good and even if the story is good too its secondary to the gameplay

>>720113351
>every successful game ever is popular because the gameplay is good and even if the story is good too its secondary to the gameplay
that depends, jrpg doesn't fit that criteria for example, I love FFX not because I love to farm monsters for hours, but because of its story and the beautiful universe

>>720113172
>You would understand this if you had the basic ability to reason needed to at least be able to disagree, rather than simply not understand, gender theory.
The idea that someone can be born as the wrong gender or feel like the wrong gender implies that genders are meant to feel and act specific ways, and deviating outside of this norm is an indication that you have a girl brain in a man body or something to that effect. The idea that gender is both a social construct and this immutable thing where you can be born as the wrong one is blatantly at odds with itself.

Are we being progressive by regressive to outdated gender stereotypes and roles in society?
Why does it make more sense to say "well, this woman likes videogames and sports, so she's clearly a man in a woman's body! So that means this is a pregnant man!" instead of "yeah she likes videogames and sports and she's also having a baby"

If anything, this idea that you can be the "wrong" gender and need to get a prescription or expensive surgeries to fix it feels like a scam by big pharma. The idea used to be that traditional gender roles have no impact on who you are or what you're allowed to enjoy, and somehow we went from that to "what you enjoy determines your gender"
We've just flipped all the way back around to liberal progressives pushing for the same shit that christian fundamentalists used to push for, while somehow thinking they're sticking it to those people.
Two groups of people that just want everyone to adhere to traditional gender roles and for whatever reason they think they're fighting against each other.

Either way, the idea that a man can be pregnant is awful simply because it introduces way too much needless confusion for developing children/teens, who will by default feel weird in their body at that age. There's no actual benefit to pushing this gender identity shit over just telling people not to let their gender define them.

>>720113256
It's not. You are simply inherently delusional.

>>720113302
>Yes it is, stop lying.
It isn't. Elaborate on why you believe it is.
>Still are.
'Were' was used in the context of the game being really old.
>Being historicalyl accurate is woke.
It isn't. Elaborate on why you believe it is.
>Yes, it did.
It literally did not. The closest Civ 5 gets to environmental effects is nuclear fallout, they didn't reintroduce climate change until Civ 6.
>Objecitvily false.
It isn't. Different issue, elaborate on why you believe the nature of theology is politically left wing.
>You are openly encouraged to do white genocide when playing as most Civs.
You are penalised for razing cities, you are encouraged to take them over, regardless of civ.
>Barbarians are chud coded
Elaborate.

>>720113454
>delusional
peak irony -> >>720113072

>>720113441
If "reaffirming their gender" was the goal, men would be able to get surgery to correct gyno, but they aren't. Its considered a cosmetic surgery.

Apparently if a woman likes bugs and cars, having her tits cut off and being put on testosterone is a life saving pocedure. But if I man grows tits during puberty due to hormonal fuck up, he just has to live with those forever despite not identifying as a woman.

It was never about peoples feelings, it was about causing damage to an entire generation of children for profit.

>>720113551
>It was never about peoples feelings, it was about causing damage to an entire generation of children for profit.
this, they make so much money out of these procedures

>>720113610
>they make so much money out of these procedures
Don't forget the life-long hormone replacement therapy. Its not like you hit a point where you're just done and its all finished, thats a forever prescription, big pharma's favourite kind!

Chud fatigue is real.

>>720113731
>Chud fatigue is-ACK