Thread 720254154

They just killed all future FromSoft games on other platforms with a single move
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/palworld-isnt-the-only-target-nintendos-latest-patent-could-touch-hundreds-of-games

>patenting what others already invented
That's not going to stick, right?
Or can I just get rich by finding an idea which is already in use but not patented?

proof?

>>720254154 (OP)
This has been disproven.
Stop spreading lies.

>>720254154 (OP)
>Nintendo trying to patent troll outside of Japan and in the US of all places.
Lmao good luck

>>720254571
>That's not going to stick, right?
They did exactly that with 2 other things and successfully sued Palworld with those, why wouldn't this?

They patented it so that it'll be ok when they finally summon satan to our realm

>>720254571
The first lawsuit they won against Palworld involved patenting something they did years ago and Palworld had already done since then retroactively suing them for breaking it.

>summon and fight
How about Final Fantasy summons?

>>720254571
in the US, it doesnt matter as long as you have more money

>>720254154 (OP)
Someone needs to port Minecraft to Nintendo

Didn't the first megaten game come out in the 80s? Wouldn't atlus have more of a claim to such a mechanic in that case?

The concept of intellectual property is a fucking blight.

>>720254154 (OP)
>'Your table for 2 is ready.'
>summons you to a table
>Miayamoto jumps from under table to give waitress a cease and desist

>>720255080
Wouldn't apply since they're just glorified attacks and don't stick around. The patent here doesn't even apply to the early Pokemon games, it only really applies to Arceus.

>>720255401
Yes. And Pokemon itself is just a knockoff Megaten, so Nintendo really doesn't want to start this shit

Been a rough day for anti-tendies, huh?

>>720255820
>and don't stick around
they do in ff10

>>720254154 (OP)
LOL
Nintendo is such a jew company

>>720254154 (OP)
good, only nintendo should be allowed to make games

Every passing day psuedo-communism China makes more sense than the capitalist west.

>>720255820
>>720255820
>>720255080
World of Final Fantasy nerds

>>720254154 (OP)
>and here's what you should think about it
Gas yourself.

>>720254935
Post proof then.

>>720254982
>They did exactly that with 2 other things and successfully sued Palworld with those, why wouldn't this?
Because that was in Japan, a shithole where only old yakuza are in charge of the laws. The US is a totally different story.

>>720255105
Not really. In the US at least you can still have judges with more than 1 braincell and the social and media climate is also very different in the US then in Japan.
For example a start-up challenging the old guard is looked down upon in Japan while in the US it's a success story. That's why these asinine patents only work in Japan because in the US the backlash Nintendo would get from trying to enforce such patents, especially if the victim is some indie, would enormous.
Even if the dev in this scenario wouldn't have the money for the legal battle, lawfirms from all over the country would fly over and do it for cheap or even free. And 1 gofundme would be enough to get the funds they need anyway.

>>720256378
proof

minecraft all software patent lawyers

>>720256175
Not outside of combat.

>>720256326
You really don't want to incur Maoist Marxism upon yourself, anon. You're just speedrunning the same goal corporatism has.

>>720254982
>successfully sued Palworld
They haven't succeeded in anything yet.

>>720256614
Yeah they did.

>>720254154 (OP)
>patent to summon and fight
>gets destroyed by Slapstick/Robotrek, the very game that Gamefreak has plagiarized in order to create Pokémon

>>720256614
They were successful in filing the lawsuit. Anyone who wants to sue someone can do that easily. Winning it is an entirely different matter. The results of the lawsuit are still pending.

>>720255820
>don't stick around
Huh? Multiple Final Fantasy games have summons that last until they run out of HP or you call them back.

>>720257240
All the good Renee art out there and you post AI slop. You should be ashamed

>>720254154 (OP)
Nintendo is literally the final boss villain of gaming. They only get away with it because they have a rabid fanbase of retards addicted to colorful bing bing wahoo baby games who would sell their soul to defend nintendo

>>720257842
Anon she has the artists signature LITERALLY on her tits, which tells me you are the gay

>>720254154 (OP)
It should not be possible to patent something abstract like a game mechanic
That's retarded and not in line with what patent laws are meant to achieve in the first place

>>720254154 (OP)
Seriously, what is stopping other companies from C&Ding Nintendo?

Based, fuck Miyazaki

>>720254154 (OP)
Don't be retarded, even if they got this patent they wouldn't just start suing the creators of Persona and what not.
They'd just use it to deal with cases like Palworld more effectively which infringe on a much more complex level.

>>720258186
corruption, money

Genuinely this is the stupidest one yet. They're just patent trolling because they're seething about Palworld.
>Final Fantasy
>Terraria
>Souls games
This affects multiple big games and they're not even the ones that invented it.

>>720258314
Money from what? Nintendo consoles are by far the worst platform for 3rd party sells.

>>720258264
Shut up, faggot. Nintendo has gone after plenty of smaller devs over stuff they didn't invent.

>>720254154 (OP)
In that case, can they remaster xenosaga?

>>720256775
Retarded tendie...

>>720254154 (OP)
nintedo also patented the blue color of the sky

>>720254154 (OP)
oh fuck sacrifice(2000) and summoner (2000) are fucked

>>720258467
Malicious glowing anti-Nintendo agent...

>>720254154 (OP)
Japan's courts are a joke

>>720258186
they are waiting for them to win a single case, just coming to the juge and explaining they just scammed someone using the exact same trick will shorten it and will assure victorry.

>>720255401
atlus may be jewish with their releases but they aren't concentrated pure gigakike like shitendo

>>720254154 (OP)
Damn that sucks.
Anyway
>14GB
>900MB
>9TB
>524GB
>289GB

>>720254154 (OP)
So the patent offices are just accepting bribes to allow patents for things that already exist, right? They have to be.
Why the fuck does NONE of this ever come back to them? Is there really literally no one in a position to do anything about this who gives a singular fuck?

>There must be a PC, console or other computing device and the game is stored on a drive or similar storage medium.
>You can move your main character in a virtual space.
>You can summon a secondary character (called the “sub character” in the patent).
>If there’s an enemy present, the summoned character fights it (either automatically or based on your input.)
>If there isn’t, the summoned character can still move and fight when it encounters an enemy later.
So basically every RPG where you can summon monster, undead or demons to fight for you? Guess no Atronach or Dremora summons in TES6.
No more pet classes in MMOs.
No more calling in allies to assist
No more attack choppers in COD

>>720255080
>>720255820
>>720256175
They do in FF13.

>>720256403
>not really
actually yes

>>720258186
the jew fears the Samurai

Patents tend to be very specific when applied for legal reasons so this problem becomes null if a ball is involved.

>>720254154 (OP)
Wouldn't this fuck up Digimon?

Isn't Bandai one of the few companies that can actually stand up to Nintendo?

>muh land of the free would never allow this
Have none of you children been alive when Konami destroyed In The Groove in court 20 years ago? Or when WotC (possibly) forced a crippling settlement on Hex last decade?

>>720259280
Do you summon the Digimon in Cyber games? Also Bamco have a silly patent themselves for mini-gamea on loading screens which is why they don't exist for many gens now

>>720259280
They work closely with nintendo, if anything they will send a blind eye for each other.

>>720256101
How fucked in the head do you have to be to be on Nintendo's side in this? Like how deep down your fucking throat is their cock?

>>720254154 (OP)
well this stinks

>>720254571
This shit will end quickly the first time they try to sue Microsoft or anybody backed by them.

>>720259567
Fucking this. Tendies really are mindless consoomer drones.

>>720255013
lmao

Silksong hype must be dieing down.

Nintendo outrage is back on the menu.

>>720258460
woah woah woah woah WOAH
you'll get a link's crossbow training remaster and you'll fucking like it

why create better games when you can just beg before (((judges))) and have hordes of tendie bootlickers defend you online?
thankfully, japan is being flooded with pajeets, and tendies won't breed as much, so there's no future for nintendo or pokemon

>>720259397
>20 years ago
>last decade
Exactly
That's the thing. That's all ancient. Well before social media and (un)cancel culture existed. They wouldn't be able to win now because their opponents could make a social media post and a gofundme and have lawyers and money flocking to them.

Nintendo invalidating their own patent by going after a port/remaster violating said patent would be kino.

>>720256403
>Because that was in Japan, a shithole where only old yakuza are in charge of the laws. The US is a totally different story.
Yea. instead of yakuza, it's freemasons lmfao.

>>720256326
It's just as bad in its own way.

>>720256403
Oh look at that, even the fucking old prime minister of japan is a freemason. That's carazy, huh?

>>720260301
Still better than the Yakuza because in the US start ups can actually succeed.
Indies in Japan can only find success on steam, a US platform. In their home country if they want to go beyond comiket there is literally no other option.

>>720260615
It really fucking isn't because america is extremely fucking evil. biggest bullies on the planet and they're just about due for their just desserts.

>>720260301
>>720260557
it's just jews everywhere
you can thank boomers for allowing this to happen by not breeding and letting nigs and jeets take over

>>720257819
>>720259004
Read the fucking link you dumbasses.

>>720260863
honestly it's not fair to blame boomers or anyone, really. these rats are sneaky.

>>720260615
>jews ruling america is good because le indie game devs
peak demoralized golem

>>720261047
>niᥒteᥒd𐐬 patenting save files
honestly china needs to invade these gooks
i thought japan made high quality stuff, but now it's clear they are literally india-jew tier slop

>>720260301
>>720260557
>>720260727
I do not care about some pedo/jew/anitchrist/whatever conspiracy in america I only care about video games.

>>720261215
Indies are about the only thing holding this industry together. Everything else is flopping so hard the "industry" feels threatened by it.

>>720254154 (OP)
>casually patenting something at least half of all vidya has done
>because uhhhhh fuck Palworld, they embarrassed Gayfreak
JUST MAKE A GOOD GAME, THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO FUCKING DO. I fucking hate these patent trolls.

shouldn't you idiots have learned how these patents work by now

>>720254571
You realize they own the courts

>>720261547
okay but you're a cuck

SMT bros...... Its over...

>>720256101
You're in a cult.

shit's 45 pages long and you dumbasses are arguing it's too vague and broad of a concept

>>720261889
I'm not a tendie and/or japanese so no I'm not.

>>720261865
You think some dinky toddler fisher price rip off corporation owns the United States Of America courts?

Lmfao tendies are delusional.

>>720254154 (OP)
You can fill a patent and even be granted a patent on anything. And you can sue people for that patent. That doesn't mean its going to hold on court.
(it's still a problem because even if it's a shitty patent that won't hold in court, it can bankrupt small developers with legal fees)

>>720255013
>the soccer moms were right all along

>>720261047
>any RPG with a summoner class, hell even some RTS games
Nintendo is about to get its shit pushed in by Blizzard and Bethesda and that's just the start

>>720261047
Diablo about to get cancelled fr fr no kap.

>>720255820
>since they're just glorified attacks and don't stick around
FFXI They were pets that fought along side you. You could make it so you could have them out full-time with good gear.
That was just the Summoner class.
Beastmaster you could charm pets in the wild to fight for you, and summon them with items.
Puppetmaster you summoned after you got done blowing all your gil on attachments to customise it, then realise its shit.

>>720259280
Depending on how it's applied, I feel like it can be fuck up a lot of games.
Like, does Onslaught going into the background summoning clone fighters in MvC count? Do the summons in Final Fantasy (moreso the earlier ones) count?

>>720258975
Also means Elden Ring is now illegal

>>720258186
Having no legal foothold in Japan.
Japanese legal system is pretty rigged and has lots of grey areas that create loopholes.
Japanese judges always side with big corp or Japanese first in all cases.
t.friend divorced his abusive Japanese wife who was slashing his kids with a knife, she still got the kids in the divorce court "cuz she's their mom and she's Japanese".

>>720258975
except the patent is a 40+ page document and not just those 3 lines some "expert" put together

>>720259567
I just like being on the winning side
>>720262218
Ok. And?

>>720264794
based brown brother
we are winning, our numbers are higher and these white dalits can do nothing about it besides crying their impotent seethe on the internet
we are wons, we brahmins rule the earth

>>720254154 (OP)
games predating pokemon that can be used to cite prior art include:
Megami Tensei series
many RTS games, including Warcraft and Warcraft 2, which allow a controllable unit to create more units
Dragon Quest 5
Wizardry 4
D&D Goldbox series
Mail Order Monsters

Nintendo needs to fucking die. Evil company.

>>720264603
Shit, I didn't read the thread. I guess FF's in the clear.
Still, Atlus and Namco could be pissed.

>>720258975
Just remembered, in Street of Rage 1 you could call cop cars. I guess thats another possible "nono"

Even some fighters you summon shit while your character disappears from the screen...

>>720264916
Ok
>>720264960
This but pocketpair

>>720254154 (OP)
>make a game with a character that moves on screen
>Nintendo already patented that
>get sued by Nintendo
>have to pay them 3 trillion dollars
thanks, patents!

>>720264794
>on the winning side
>The side that had to resort to trademark fuckery.
>Instead of just making their games better.
They are 'winning' in the same sense as you "winning" a footrace by shooting the other guy in the leg.

FUCKING BASED

>>720256101
>defending nintendo
Beyond pathetic

>make a game with a guy who jumps
>nintencops break down my door and assault me
>haul me to jail afterwards

Nintendo and their fans are fucking pathetic

>>720259567
They're not gamers. They brand loyaltists. The vast majority of them are legit pedophiles and literal manchildren

>Nintendo moving on from dabbing on Snoytrannies to Fromsloppers
Unfathomably based.

So when is Nintendo patenting the very concept of video games?

>>720265503
As soon as both the US and Japan become such shitholes that they can legally get away with it in both the west and the east. Which will be sooner than you think.

>>720265503
they already have, did it right after patenting the concept of "your ass"

>>720264747
These threads are just a big game of pretending not to understand what was patented, this is describing the auto battle feature in Gen 9 Pokemon it's not some vague thing you could accidentally cross

>>720265484
>it's statistical fact that Snoytrannies are the most braindead loyal, Nintendo actually third from the big 3
>Snoy's CEO was a literal kiddie diddler
>Snoy genuinely put trannies as their MC in their large """game""" releases
You couldn't be more wrong, xir.

GO! GO! NINTENDO!

GO! GO! NINTENDO!

>>720265310
>nintendo almost patented jumping in games
Sometimes I wonder what that world would be like.

>>720254154 (OP)
ATLUS/SE is going to have a field day with this

>>720265418
I think I'm on the winning side and if that makes you furious you're entitled to be that way. You don't even like palworld anyway. You just saw Nintendo was involved and picked against them and lost again.

>>720265635
>Sometimes I wonder what that world would be like
It would be amazing

>>720265474
This but pocketpair

>>720261047
So, vanilla WoW Warlocks break this patent. Also tons of games earlier than that, including Everquest.

>>720254571
>others
Nintendo invented it kiddo

>>720254571
The law is just a money game, not justice. That's why they're separate words.

>>720265763
>kiddo

>>720254154 (OP)
>no more soulsborne slop
we can only hope

>>720254154 (OP)
once again proving that software patents are the most retarded shit in the world. it's just a playground for patent trolling.

>>720265583
>Smash players

>>720265576
The auto battle feature in Gen 9 works exactly like the pet classes in World of Warcraft. When it launched.

Imagine a world without Palshit.

Hurry up Nintendo, I can't wait...

>Opens up JP twitter
grim

>>720261047
>>720254154 (OP)
I find it's interesting when people chose to believe what these journos say when it's convenient to the narrative they believe in.
Shouldn't the patent have specification that would allow it to be issued in the first place? I think the journalist just grossed over the details. idk, maybe they just throw the document into ai and get the bulletpoints.

>>720265926
and your mom worked the streets when you launched

>>720254154 (OP)
>what are those book jobs in FFXIV?
>oh, you probably mean the dps nintenner and healing nintender.
>they both get split up from the base class pokemon master

>>720265682
I'm completely neutral on Palworld and a Nintendo fan.
But I'm not blind. This situation just makes Nintendo look pathetic and insecure. They clearly see Palworld as a threat and have so little faith in their own ability (despite Pokemon being one of the biggest brands in the world) that they try to game the patent system to kill it.
People already didn't like Konami patenting loading screen minigames and WB patenting the Nemesis system. Who in their right mind would be ok with Nintendo patenting basic concepts? Even people who only play Nintendo games wouldn't be directly affected by it.

>>720265961
Who asked you?

>>720262579
Yakuza own Nintendo
Yakuza = Nip Jews

>>720254154 (OP)
Who the fuck is granting Nintendo these patents? They clearly haven't touched a videogame ever, this shit is so broad and has hundreds if not thousands of existing non-Nintendo examples already.

>>720258186
>what is stopping other companies from C&Ding [the Disney of video games, who has enough money to send private investigators against organizers of console hacking scenes]
Same reason why 99% of fangame devs just keel over when lawyers breathe on them.

>>720265961
Based.
>>720266070
I did

>>720254154 (OP)
>JUST PATENTENED IT
>Look at the patent
>It was filed nearly 10 years ago
Huh?

>>720266070
Seethe

>>720254154 (OP)
Intellectual property law is the gayest bullshit

>>720264664
I wanna hear more about that story

Unironic nint*ddler defense force in this thread
Indians from the DallE threads*

HOLY SHIT NIN AND TODDLER COMBINED IS WORD FILTERED
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NINTENDO OWNS THIS SHITHOLE BOARD

>>720266161
"journalists" have figured out that anti-tendies are all <90iq monkeys and therefore highly susceptible to clickbait

>>720254571
>That's not going to stick, right?
>Or can I just get rich by finding an idea which is already in use but not patented?
Hasn't stopped the thousands of other abusive patents out there. It won't work for you purely because you don't have enough money.

>>720266161
>>720266252
U.S. Patent No. 12,409,387, which was issued today, covers the “smooth switching of riding objects”, but Pocketpair already worked around this feature in Palworld, so right now that acquisition is not much of a threat.

However, as GamesFray reports in their thorough coverage of the case, Patent No. 12,403,39, which was granted over a week ago on September 2


retarded much?

>>720256101
>anti-tendies
Nigger the hilarious part is none of this affects anti-tendies more than it does Nintendo and their absolute failures to actually utilize C&D's properly (you know to actually protect IP's). Yeah no new FZero, no new Starfox, they can't even finish fucking MP4 STILL TO THIS DAY because apparently suing for stock havok physics takes precedent with their current senile chairmen. Oh no not the hecking ball throws and 20+ year old millenial monsters! What is gaming going to do without those? The real question is what Nintendo will actually do with those since they can't seem to even make a fucking pokemon game worth a piss anymore.

>>720256101
Been a rough day for everyone, nintendo fans included. Rather than compete with better games they want to push barely functional shit and sue all their competitors instead

>>720266161
Nintendo owns a shit ton of patents, but thanks to the code of honor they just keep them tucked away, safe from the actual greedy types.
Palworld straight up copied their designs and broke that code, so now they’re getting their shit kicked in.
Doesn’t matter if Nintendo patents the whole damn world, as long as you play fair and don’t abuse it, you’re free to use it. That’s the unspoken rule in gaming.
Journo shills will keep lying and fearmongering, never trust them.

https://youtu.be/cbH9-lzx4LY?si=kE48aIh25xiVCq_V

>>720266386
If it were accurate the last panel would say
>"How did I make this?"

>>720254154 (OP)
The big N needs to rot.

>>720266487
You know, I genuinely can't tell if you people are serious. Like, do you drink the kool-aid that much, or are you stting here, kicking your feet and giggling, because you're saying something you know is retarded.

>>720254571
>Or can I just get rich by finding an idea which is already in use but not patented?
Yes, especially when others can't afford to fight the patent. It happened with paintball guns, when some douchebags patented paintball guns that use electronic components. They killed a bunch companies while pushing out a shitty product.

>>720254154 (OP)
Just imagining a scenario where Nintendo manages to bankrupt Fromsoft by suing them over the summoning mechanic is hilarious

>>720266487
>thanks to the code of honor they just keep them tucked away, safe from the actual greedy types.
Christ, fucking listen to yourself

>>720266319
Anon it says its a refinement of a patent they filed when they started to make lets go/legends

>>720254154 (OP)
Cool.

>>720254154 (OP)
so tired of nintendo can that shit tier manchild pandering company fucking go under already

Eric status?

>>720266613
>>720266594
Imagine living in constant seethe mode, just let it go already

>>720266691
Slaying tendies in his sleep.

I FIGURED IT OUT
tomorrow is THURSDAY
it's almost lynching time!

>>720266594
>>720266613

He does a genuinely good job of roleplaying the average normie but the problem is he did too well of a job in the wrong place. For everything else there's Chat GPT without reading the response. They actually fail job applications specifically because they forget to proofread these things they're that fucking helpless.

>>720266742
So you are serious, holy shit.
Nintendo fans everyone.

>>720254154 (OP)
Where's all the hackers when you need them to do some funny shit?

>>720266854
>Nintendo fans everyone.
So they are right?

>>720266945
nintendo bought them

>>720266140
In the U.S., they seem to give patents out like candy and let the courts sort it out.

Every vidya company has 9 million patents.
Skimming this its not
>LITERALLY SUMMONS FIGHTING
Its
1) A non-transitory computer-readable storage medium having stored therein a game program, the game program causing a processor of an information processing apparatus to execute:
(2) performing control of moving a player character on a field in a virtual space, based on a movement operation input;
(3) performing control of causing a sub character to appear on the field, based on a first operation input, and
(4) when an enemy character is placed at a location where the sub character is caused to appear, controlling a battle between the sub character and the enemy character by a first mode in which the battle proceeds based on an operation input, and
(5) when the enemy character is not placed at the location where the sub character is caused to appear, starting automatic control of automatically moving the sub character that has appeared; and
(6) performing control of moving the sub character in a predetermined direction on the field, based on a second operation input, and, when the enemy character is placed at a location of a designation, controlling a battle between the sub character and the enemy character by a second mode in which the battle automatically proceeds.

Its so specific this is a complete nothingburger

>>720266945
I don't know, I just hope they hack pocketpair for stealing.

>>720266854
>Underage poster everyone
What were you expecting? A ban? Glowmods need Nintendo to keep white children distracted from important shit.

>>720266951
About what? Nintendo shit? I would hope so, why else are they soifacing everytime their own fakenews direct reports get published? To NOT know about nintendo shit? I mean fuck, what else are they supposed to know? Cooking their own meals? That's what mom is for, duh!

>>720267026
owari da...

>>720254154 (OP)
>nintny shell
>tranny jannies let it be since inodomoot be like 'ya boss!'

I think really this is just a 2 fold issue of Nintendo being pissed Pal Worlds looked better visually while also seething at their more cruder, adult version with guns.

Specifically, tune into any pokemon cobblemon stream that has decent viewership (you don't actually have to), and see how long it takes for them to get asked about palworld. It's insanely fast.

And this is just in reference to a streamer playing a pokemon modpack in Minecraft. People at The Pokemon Company must absolutely seething relentlessly that palworld is still getting recommended as a pokemon alternative.

>/v/ suddenly hates capitalism
Propose a better system then

i fucking hate nintendo so much man

>>720267185
Intellectual property law is the opposite of capitalism.

>>720267157
Unironically it they didnt have NOT-pokeballs
They wouldn't have been touched

>>720267234
Bullshit. If you can't patent ideas then patents do not exist

>>720267185
this is anti-capitalist. Patents and the like are state sanctioned monopolies

>>720267272
american education everyone

>>720267265
Right. And without patents, we would have a free market where the best and cheapest product would win, instead of having this patent trolling shit.

>>720266945
Whatever these hackers do I sure hope it has nothing to do with MP4 because Nintendo sure wasted a lot of money and time for it to get leaked 2 weeks in advance.

>>720267185
Explain how not selling me shit because you're scared of other people buying shit is capitalism? Why? Because you described the other buyer as a "Scalper"? Sell me the product you shit fucking company. No really just shut the fuck up and take my money for the service you are providing. Pretty fucking simple shit isn't it? That is capitalism is it not?

>>720267157
The real reason is that Palworld got a merch deal from Sony. Nintendo could kill dozens of indie Pokemon knockoffs, but they saved their ammunition for an actual competitor.

>>720267317
>>720267353
If you think chink shit and illegals flooding the market is bad now, it would be 10x worse without patents.

>>720267185
We could start by outlawing usury

>>720267417
cool it with the anti-semitic remarks

>>720267417
Now you made it so jews can borrow money to pay of money they borrowed. A more extreme version of what we have now.

>>720267467
Wait until you hear about my next suggestion

>>720254154 (OP)
>>720254571

Wizardry 4 had a summoning mechanic in 1987 and I doubt that is the first example either. Nintendo should be destroyed.

>>720256403
Tell Trump that American games are not performing well in Japan due to non-tariff barrier like this Nintendo bullshits.

>>720267405
>If you think chink shit and illegals flooding the market is bad now
I don't think that's bad because they actually sell me a fucking product instead of cope seethe and whinge at me for wanting to buy their product. How fucking terrible has your company become when a fucking China man can sell me shit better than you? What a fucking embarrassment, yeah yeah uh huh it's the "scalpers" "fault" for making your company richer and buying more products. They literally even honor return policies better than big N, now that's fucking sad!

>>720267528
Another unrealistic socialist pipedream like the rest of your posts?
You can't do shit. You're a golem for the jews and you perfectly play their boogeyman by being impressionable and stupid enough to fall for "national socialism" as if it's anything other than socialism.

>>720267594
You will forever be controlled by jews

>>720267558
are you just asking chat-gpt inane questions and then posting the answers here, is that what you're doing?

I dont understand how anyone can defend nintendo in this situation. I dont play palworld, I dont care about it, I hated half the catalogue being palworld threads. But man, nintendo and nintendo fanboys really treat that game like it and its players personally killed their cat or some shit.

>>720267085
So it's essentially a patent over the whole gameplay loop of a pokemon battle? Doesn't this basically try and screw anyone who makes a Pokemon-like? Such as Dragon Quest: Monsters, and Yo Kai Watch?

>>720267467
>Now you made it so jews can borrow money to pay of money they borrowed
Which only occurs when Usury is afoot you illiterate, where do they get the initial borrowed money?
>uh uh from a tree haha it's paper get it!

>>720267642
>You will forever be controlled by jews
You got so blown out you insulted yourself, oh wait that is unless you're one of those chosen controllers amirite, Larry?

>>720267642
Unrealistic? Not quiet so. It's the foundation of some of the most prosperous ages.

>>720267642
jews control the patents, idiot.

>>720267759
>OMG GAMING IS DONE!!!
pathetic

>>720267759
nope
go ask chat-gpt again, maybe it'll give you the right answer this time

>>720267806
Your dumb ass doesn't even know what usury is, or that it's already illegal. Any opinion you have isn't serious, which is why you're a neo-nazi.
You care about LARPing more than fixing this nation.
Many such cases when it comes to socialists.

>>720267835
Yes, unrealistic. Not only is it unrealistic, it's a perfect boogeyman for jews to go "SEE!!! THE NAZIS STILL EXIST THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO CENSOR EVERYTHING". You're a useful idiot. Literal jewish cattle.

>>720267885
Jews control you.

>>720267759
no because both youkai watch and DQM have specific details that made them different from the patented system.
Actually you can just look up LEVEL5's patent on youkai watch.

>>720266078
Yakuza are gone now. Either they've gone legit, or faded into irrelevancy. It's all about the hangure now

>>720254154 (OP)
Nintendoncan summon deez nuts won't stop me from pirating their entire library.

>>720267974
>>720267990
What about pet battles in World of Warcraft, which are essentially, 1:1, Pokemon?

>>720267978
Jesus. How retarded are you?

>>720268054
see
>>720268102

>>720267759
Not a normal one, its the shitty legends one.
So it would have to be
>Open world game
>With creatures in balls
>Where you enter battle by throwing that creature at another enemy and it auto moves to start a battle
Like dont throw balls

Shits not complicated

>>720268127
Can you actually hold a conversation rather than trying to stop someone from asking perfectly understandable questions?

>>720268187
They already answered you but you don't care. Nintendo is not going to do shit, this only affects Palshit because they took it too far, they deserve it.

>>720268187
see
>>720268102

>>720267978
>Your dumb ass doesn't even know what usury is, or that it's already illegal.
Post your credit card interest rate. You won't.

>Any opinion you have isn't serious, which is why you're a neo-nazi.
Please stop projecting me into the white supremacist you want to be bailed out by when the time comes. You aren't getting the bullet no matter how much you beg, I'll simply watch and laugh while you deal with being janny for diversity.

>You care about LARPing more than fixing this nation.
Without usury in its many forms this nation wouldn't be worth a bucket of piss.

>Many such cases when it comes to socialists.
Wow that is surprising, a bankman defender who can actually describe what a Nazi is. Truely moving on down in the world, next you'll hopefully stop whinging about the yolocaust.

>>720268232
They did not answer my question. I asked about World of Warcraft's Pokemon-esque sub-game, pet battling.

>>720268296
already answered here
>>720268102

>>720268102
>>720268245
What you are asking for is to make interest illegal. Your fell for the socialist meme that interest = usury however, which is evident by the fact you think it's legal.

>>720268296
yes anon, Nintendo will sue blizzard fro trillions of dollars and every single game company and the world will end tomorrow.

will i still be able to play as a necromancer in games though?

>ITT underage and foreigners dont know what a patent is
Unless you think no games can change their HUD because valve has a patent on it.

A patent summary isnt the patent.

>>720268296
look at the flowchart in the document.

>>720268410
Are you summoning skeletons with pokeballs to enter turn based battles?
If not then you are fine

>>720268410
No, all game companies will have to close because Nintendo owns a patent and Nintendo will sue all 9000 companies for millions and all games will stop existing

>>720268369
What is wrong with you?

>>720268406
And what is wrong with you? Why are you so fucking bothered about talking about the reach of this patent? What is your investment? This seems like an interesting conversation, and you're just getting weirdly heated.

Tendies getting mad that people aren't happy with Nintendo.

Of course the edgy contrarians of /v/ want nintendo to own every mechanic

>>720268425
those mongoloids have been camping these threads for about a year by now
they should know better but they don't

>>720268585
nintendo should own platformer's jumping desu.

>>720268640
Miyamoto wanted to do that in the 80s

>>720268760
should've done it

>>720268425
valve is not asshole like nintendo.

>>720268405
>What you are asking for is to make interest illegal.
Another strawman projection of yours. No, I asked you to post your absurd 24% + interest rate which I knew you wouldn't and didn't do. And we all know why you didn't.

>which is evident by the fact you think it's legal.
Now that we know your religion, lets find out your race. Post your car loan interest next. You won't so just consider this your last (you).

>>720254154 (OP)
>Nintendo invented One Thousand and One Nights

>>720268135
>Nintendo invented balls

>>720256409
What are you, some kinda comedian?

>>720254154 (OP)
Lufia 2 did pocket monsters (capsule monsters) a full year before pokemon

>>720268869
Hey kike, arabs are going to behead you and your children :)

TENDIES DON'T LOOK

720269151
>This poster has a 40-year financing period for a Dodge Charger

>>720254154 (OP)
>Drakan The Ancients' Gates lets you call/summon your dragon companion, who you can freely mount and dismount, fly around on, and engage in combat, both in-air and on-ground, all inside of a 3D semi-open world space

Sony already did it years ago on the PS2. this is a pathetic move.

>>720269248
>financing a car
You would do that wouldn't you kike?

720269294
>You would do that wouldn't you
I mean I can see why they get away with that yeah.

>>720254154 (OP)
Daily reminder that Nintendo is guilty of ripping off Dragon Quest.

>So many tears ITT.
LMAO!
It's so good to be on the winning side.

>>720254154 (OP)
There is no way it will stick unless it's extremely specific.
Granted Nintendo might try to rely on settling things in court and using their money to their advantage but summoning as a game mechanic existed well before pokemon.

patent deez nuts

>>720269532
It's extremely specific
>>720268135

>>720269532
>There is no way it will stick
Famous last words in the american copyright system.

>>720254154 (OP)
Nintendo patented being gay and this is why they suck so much.

>>720267734
>>720259567
If it's legal and permitted by the judicial system, what's the problem?
If you don't like it, file a counter-lawsuit to challenge it.
>But dah morals!!!
Moralfags get the rope.

>>720256403
>In the US at least you can still have judges with more than 1 braincell
All it takes is a single judge to create precedent that every other judge must follow. See the problem yet?

Can Nintendo™ just fucking get a patent for 60+ fps so they don't have to worry about their shitty console competing in the market already?

>>720269292
GAY NIGGAS will never realize the error of their ways Chad Daddy.

>>720256403
>In the US at least you can still have judges with more than 1 braincell
It's exactly 7 braincells and the tiebreaking braincell was given to Clarence Thomas who can be bought off with bribes.

i am happy for the Next Gen (zoomers and gen Alpha) who don't give a fuck about Nintendo slop
The only reason Nintendo is alive is because Shitlennials who are obsessed with them

>>720254154 (OP)
the mechanics described under this patent could be easily applied to Kirby Superstar
why does that matter? Because patents are only valid for X amount of time, usually 20 years, and that timer starts with the release of the earliest known product to utilize the process
even if they work around all the previous games that used summoning, Nintendo's own Kirby Superstar is old enough that the patent is expired out of the gate

>>720270186
judges can disagree with precedent if it's not written into law. Citing precedent is just a shorthand for a judge not needing to think too hard about something

>>720254154 (OP)
I'm not a anti-nintendo guy, but even this is fucking stupid and is a complete genre killer. What's next, patenting "jumping on platforms" or "blond elves?"

>>720270932
Stop trying to justify anything when it comes to US law. Whoever has the deepest pockets is right.
>that timer starts with the release of the earliest known product to utilize the process
So gen 1 Pokemon? 1999? Already over 20 years old? Then why would Nintendo bother filing a patent at all? Oh wait it's because they have deep pockets so they can write whatever laws they want.

>>720269231
It doesn't count because I'm mad.

>>720254571
They don’t need to win they just need to waste the other persons money in court fees, this’ll target mainly AA-Indie studios that can’t afford to spend millions on completely fraudulent dragged out lawsuits.
The most corporate form of company assassination

>ITT babies learn that you can write whatever the fuck law you want as long as you have money
Just look at US Tax code, which is 40k+ pages long and amended every fuckin year by every big company

>>720268012
>gone now
Same with ESG and SBI right?
No they only rename themselves when people start to notice

>>720258186
The Yakuza.

>>720259567
Tendies are like Apple goys, for them even something as retarded as this is ok

>Nintendo wants to get rid of this
Why are they so gay?

BUT WHAT DOES ASMONGOLD THINK OF THIS I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO FEEL

>>720270903
maybe zoomers aren't so bad after all

>>720259567
You should never underestimate how badly corporations have turned weak willed retards into legitimate cult loyalists. Nintendo had the double advantage of those same people growing up with their toys to replace the parental neglect and lack of friendship they had as kids, giving them an easy in for life.

>>720271726
>What's next, patenting "jumping on platforms"
They thought about it.

What is Vinny Vinesauce take on this

>>720273212
He's a Nintendo fanboy, so he will defend it.

>>720273212
the cumguzzler Dunkey will cover it.

>>720273186
Damn, they probably really thought that invented monster taming in video games then.

>>720269698
This game needs to end as soon as possible while there's still something to salvage of humanity.

>>720267978
>>720268405
>IDF bots are on /v/ too
wew lad

Harman Smith, the man who predicted the downfall of Nick Rekieta, says that Nintendo will win the lawsuit and that Pocket Pair will go out of business.

>>720264794
>typical subhuman cattle
oh well

>>720254154 (OP)
>They just killed all future FromSoft games
Bamco has money to fight them, indies are fucked though.

>>720270169
culling generic chaff like this on a mass scale will likely be required for humanity's survival

Why are tendies so mentally ill?

>>720273626
You're just mad that you're getting counter-trolled.

>>720273626
Embarrassing

>>720273626
Praise the Switch Gods.

I hope Blizzard sues the fuck out of Turtlewow. It's time to leave the multimillion dollar corporations alone.

>>720256101
>nintendo is my friend and cares about me
I guess i kinda pity you, but then again that's an emotion reserved for fellow human beings.

>>720259675
>nintendo playing the competition game rather than bullying small studios and fangames and children drawing mario
any time now

>>720256101
What an awful movie

>nintendo owns a patent on a mechanic that has been in rpg's for decades
Epic.

>>720254154 (OP)
Lmao, good luck dealing with Hasbro and WOTC over MTG retards these US companies have much stronger lobbies and this could even backfire if they steal their idea to patent it when Nintendo fails.

>>720256101
yo the world's boot supply is not infinite faggot.

>throw ball to catch a thing
>instead of throwing ball to send something out, just have a ground-targeted circle, that allows you to summon the creature at that location

>>720274295
not an rpg

>>720254154 (OP)
Good, about time Nintendo put their foot down.

>>720267185
>suddenly

better system is fascism btw but nobody will use it because muh jews.

>>720270903
Just like Disney, only ones buying nintendo slop are "adults"

Sure patenting shit is fine, if stupid. But how is it legal to patent something after 20 years since its invention already passed?

>>720254571
the USPTO used to use a "first to invent" standard, meaning if prior art could be found, a patent would be invalidated.
but a number of years ago they switched to a "first to file" system. now it doesn't matter if you patent something that was invented by someone else decades ago. if you're the first to file for it, you can shut down anyone for the life of the patent.

>>720274578
shin megami tensei preceded pokemon anyway. the patent is probably an extension of the sphere thing

>>720274508
low bait

>>720274710
Not bait at all, when trying to speak about rpgs at least try to give an example.

>>720267642
>boomer-tier lolbert retards still exist
You will only continue to be more and more irrelevant.

>>720274578
also how is it legal to alter a patent mid-lawsuit to specifically counter/prempt your victim's case?

>>720274770
MMORPG

>>720254154 (OP)
Conjurationbros...

>>720274770
>>720274710
Massively
Multiplayer
Online
Raction
Padventure
Ggame

>>720254571
The point isn't to win the lawsuits but to bog down competitors with bullshit until they concede. This is the power of money and this is how Nintendo notoriously does things

>>720274878
JRPG

And yet neither are rpgs
Whoa.

>nintendo owns quadrillions of patents but don't use them because they are wholesome chungus company and my friend
>they are the dark knight, the silent protector
So that's why they're suing Palworld for embarassing them and GF instead of making a better game?

>>720254154 (OP)
They really are trying to kill this game lmfao

>some weeb sperg with an axe to grind
nah

>>720274950
No it's because their japanese fans expect them to stop the evil plagiarists from ruining gaming

>literally no argument
Heh.

>>720275062
But pokemon is already a rip off of MT, SMT, DQV and Ultraman?

Reaching out to US companies telling them Nintendo is trying to steal from them!

>filed march 2023
>months before palworld was even announced

did they get a tip or something?

>>720275295
the patent office did for backdating it even though it was probably after the lawsuit began
I mean they were allowed to change a patent mid-lawsuit to counter Palworld's counter-claims so clearly Nintendo is allowed to cheat at patent trolling

why is patenting game mechanics even a thing? can you patent movie stuff like lens flare?

>>720275163
Nintendo perfected the formula so it's okay. Why are you so insistent on being an individualist?

>>720275430
Nintendo owns a patent on a silhouette of a character if you're behind a wall.

>>720275535
esp hacks on suicide watch

At this point jewtendo is just extending the case to increase legal expenses.

quite funny how nintendo is killing the entire japanese industry when the chinese and korean prosper and don't give a single shit about their patents

>>720255820
In FF10, 12 and 13 they do

>>720254154 (OP)
is Nintendo going to sue blizzard because you can summon all sorts of things in the Diablo games. Nintendo is so fucking stupid

>>720266386
You forgot the last panel where the original dev is forgotten about 30 years later so everyone default to Nintendo's point of view because no other game from that era is still talked about

>>720276113
>you forgot how everyone is a retarded tendie like myself!

>>720254571
It will work against competitors in japan, which is what its all about, strong arming Nintendos opponents.

>>720276161
U mad?

>>720276210
>U mad?

>>720254154 (OP)
FUCK NINTENDO HOLY FUCKING SHIT

>>720276161
Nothing will ever match Nintendo's impact on the video game industry, and that's okay!

>>720268012
>gone
yeah, right and rumor that they kill anyone who draw horse porn was enough for all japanese artists to stop producing horse porn
Yakuza is Japan, nobody in Japan have any illusions about it

Blizzard is cooked.

>>720254154 (OP)
There's no fucking way.....

>>720276260
Ripping off Wizardry and Ultima?

>>720256101
Kys you fucking faggot

>>720254154 (OP)
>They just killed all future FromSoft games
Alright maybe Nintendo aren't the bad guys after all.

>>720254154 (OP)
there's literally nothing wrong with intellectual property!

>>720265981
>grossed over
you mean "glossed over", you dumb jap

>>720254154 (OP)
Nintendo can eat a bag of dicks

>>720254571
>>720274636
IP law is absolutely fucked and needs to be completely revamped.

>>720276382
Won't happen until the parasite class is removed.

>>720276382
>revamped.
You moderates disgust me. I hope the fence you're sitting on gives you anal ruptures.

>>720276442
Obviously. Most ills in society need to have that excised before the healing can begin.
>>720276457
Retard.

>>720276501
American

But WHY is Nintendo so assmad they are destroying the entire game industry over it? Palworld doesn't even play like pokemon at all, it's an open world survival game where battles take place in real time. Just use you kajillions of dollars and make a better game or not because 30 million subhumans will still buy AZ or whatever it's called.

>>720276551
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>720276335
Shit

>>720276551
It's about making an example of them. You do know Nintendo is Yakuza right?

>>720276551
>But WHY is Nintendo so assmad they are destroying the entire game industry over it?
They aren't.

>>720264552
FFXI sounds way cooler than XIV. Puppetmaster sounds kino.

So, the new digimon won't be released in the west?

Whole lot of idiots who don't understand how big companies have to operate. As bullshit as it is, the big companies all have stupid patents like this to prevent others from abusing them. Not to condone the system, it's complete bullshit, but anyone who was surprised that it was actually brought up against Pocketpair is a complete retard.

a company that tries to destroy competition on the court and not with its products is an incompetent company who has no faith in it's own products

>>720276752
Uh huh. Which company has the patent from gun shooting bullets?

>>720276752
When is nintendo going to sue Bamco?

>>720270601
you people still seethe about that abortion thing huh

>>720276551
because palworld is so much better than pokemon, made by a small no name company
they got embarrassed
shamefur dispray

>>720276752
>B-B-BUT EVERYONE DOES IT
this cope again
why is it that nintendo is always the only one doing shit like this
no other company does this

NINTENDO, SUE THIS MAN!

@NOA
@NOJ
@FBI
@ATF
@POTUS
FUCKING DO SOMETHING!

>>720276964
>why is it that nintendo is always the only one doing shit like this
Confirmation bias.
You obsess over Nintendo so you miss the 500 other patents being filed by other companies every year for the one they do every five or so.

>>720277101
>>720276796

>>720277047
>ATF
What's a pedo site going to do about it?

>>720277101
Sega owns the patent to 3d camera since the 90's and let nintendo make OoT without hardballing them or other devs.
Try again

>>720276785
Anon, defending your IPs is a part of having faith in your products.

>>720277186
What ip did Palworld violate?

>>720277178
And Nintendo owned touchscreen analog sticks and could have destroyed the mobile industry before it started, what's your point?

>>720277186
By going after their fans and their fan projects?

>>720277186
Retroactively changing your IP to better pursue lawfare doesn't sound like having faith in your products.

>>720277224
Several patents Nintendo filed in 2021.

>>720277267
Yes.

>>720277278
You can't change the function of a patent, only the wording for clarity.

I hope you all have learned something today.

>>720277178
That should tell you that patents don't work the way you think they do

>>720277278
it's common practice allowed by japanese court in favor of IP protection.

>>720277348
Palworld was announced in 2021, which means it was almost certainly in development before then.

>>720276796
https://patents.google.com/patent/CN111202979B/en
Here's one found in about 30 seconds regarding how to control shooting games, owned by Tencent. It seems to be a lot of computer-translated lingo but it seems to cover a lot of ground.

>>720277348
You're talking about anti-tendies and Palworld bootlickers, when do they ever learn?
I'm pretty sure if you remove the rage and jealousy sustaining them they'll just crumble into dust

>>720277454
>regarding how to control shooting games
Not what I asked for. Try harder.

>>720277454
>seems to cover
yeah the keyword - "seems"
actually mechanism behind the patent has to be very specific on the pipeline/workflow involved.

>>720277453
>Palworld was announced in 2021
None of the features in the patents were shown off in the original trailer in 2021 and development restarted between then and 2024 when the game released making that a moot point.

>>720277440
It's allowed in every court world wide as long as you don't change the actual patent

>>720265995
tendie tendie
kill yourself

>>720277560
>actually mechanism behind the patent has to be very specific on the pipeline/workflow involved.
In theory. In practice patent trolls really don't need to try all that hard to fuck people over.

>>720254154 (OP)
Nintendo is gonna hit Microsoft, Activision, and EA and suddenly find all its executives in Guantanimo.
You do NOT even look at American capitaljudaism cock eyed if you don't want your grand children being vat-grown for organ harvesting.

Why are tendies just so fucking stupid? Serious question.

>>720277530
Use this one.

>>720277779
For the same reason disney adults are stupid.

>>720277739
>In practice patent trolls really don't need to try all that hard to fuck people over
Yeah they do. Patent trolling is actually exceedingly hard to pull off and can only really be done in America due to their less than stellar checking process and standards.

>>720254154 (OP)
>US patent
Why should I care about some third world shithole?

>>720277505
Yeah, finding it specifically for that is a challenge that takes more than 30 seconds of glancing through patents. A lot isn't in English natively, but amusingly Sony owns aim assist. https://patents.google.com/patent/US9295912B2/en
as well as launching players through the air
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20080287173A1/en

Some of these are actually pretty funny.
>Player deception in a video game https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070218965A1/en

This guy named Bob Ferris apparently owns firearm simulations in general. https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160059136A1/en

>>720277779
What growing up with a brand does to a mofo.

>>720254154 (OP)
Nintendo are fucking yellow kikes. I hope the company crashes and burns.

>>720277348
>several patents nintendo filed in 2024 after palworld's release
>and retroactively attached as child patents to a 2021 patent
nintendo is abusing a feature of patents where a child patent is supposed to narrow the scope of an existing patent to further specify their claim. Instead they've broadened it to hold Palworld in violation, even though they weren't on release. And then nintendo changed it again to try to get a stronger case against them.

>>720277768
They won't, because those companies are bigger than they are.
That's what it really boils down to after all. They'll hit indies and small companies since that is frankly where most of their actual competition is.

I like how Nintendo actually managed to create a cult that actively pushes for their death just because of their quality.

>>720268425
It might be because Valve aren't patent trolling anyone that does what they do but better

>>720277530
Use this one. Fuck Turtlewow

>>720277936
holy fucking shit
nintendo invented big cats
no freaking way lois

>>720277943
that's is kinda more common than you think.

>>720254154 (OP)
It's ok. Chinks will just make those games anyway and no one will care about nintendo anymore except those brand loyal retards

>>720254154 (OP)
>nintendo sues me
>get summoned to court for legal battle
>nintendo sues the judge for infringing upon their mechanic

>>720277943
>Instead they've broadened it
you can't broaden it patent claim, no patent office will issue the document if you do that
>>720278090
Pokemon has grown super big in china now unfortunately

>>720259567
>side in this
side in what
if Nintendo were instead the ones plagiarizing you would be on the side of whoever was suing them
Palcuck devs had it coming

protip: this won't go beyond the Palworld lawsuit

>>720277943
>>several patents nintendo filed in 2024 after palworld's release
They filed them in 2021
>>and retroactively attached as child patents to a 2021 patent
That's not a thing child patents are subdivisions existing patents to lessen it's scope. In other words if it worked the way you thought then they wouldn't have these patents until 2026.

>nintendo is abusing
No, you're just ignorant. For example
>Instead they've broadened it to hold Palworld in violation
You can't broaden a patent, you can reduce it's coverage but not increase it.

>And then nintendo changed it again to try to get a stronger case against them.
Correct, Nintendo did indeed change the wording of the patent. In patent cases world wide it's very common since the usual defence against patents is that it had vague wording. The courts do allow patent owners to reword it for clarity but not to alter ie changing a sentence from something like
>he moved his legs forwards and backwards to move his body
To
>he ran down the road
It doesn't change the meaning but makes it easier to understand.

I'll never understand why you people still try this, you're nowhere near smart enough to change the narrative.

>>720278179
Nintendo plagiarized SMT.

How can I beat the tea bitch in Palworld?

>>720277898
>Bob Ferris abandoned the Simulated firearms entertainment system in 2016
Crazy to think shooting games didn't exist before then.

>>720278179
>protip: this won't go beyond the Palworld lawsuit
That's why Palworld will win.
Nintendo is just patent trolling and targeting only them.

>>720275718
yeah, what's up with that?
did blackrock order the japanese to implode their industry?

>>720278247
Do you get paid for this?

>>720278286
>That's why Palworld will win.
Whether you like it or not they have no ground to stand on here anon. Their only real option is settling or taking the full brunt.

>>720259567
How fucked in the head do you have to be to be on Blizzard's side in this? Like how deep down your fucking throat is their cock?

>>720278269
even if true what does that have to do with OP
like, why isn't Nintendo suing Sega/Atlus or vice versa

>>720278286
Palcuck already lost

>>720278297
If I were being paid I'd be defending palworld right now. I'm just stating facts.

>>720266008
At least the Nemesis system was something that to my knowledge nobody had done up until that point, at least not to the extent they did it in Shadow of War/Mordor

Summoning pets however has been a thing since the 80s, it's almost on the same level as patenting idk fireballs

It's amazing how everyone here is suddenly a lawyer that knows everything on how patents work when in reality they are all full of shit that just think they work in their own particular way.
You're all faggots by the way, you just want shit to be angry at instead of playing videogames.
Again.

>>720278121
I mean, you're not going to fight for the judge so it doesn't count

>>720276827
I don't think they are THAT stupid or suicidal.

>>720273656
how's that "pretending to be retarded" game working for the board buddy?
you're surely not attracting more mentally ill culture warriors by indulging on their mentality, right?

>>720276827
When Bamco becomes a small indie company that could upset the status quo

>>720278247
>filed them in 2021
The specific mechanics targeting Palworld weren't included until July 2024, months after Palworld release.

>>720273138
from the recent study the most loyal fanbase is sony's, not nintendo

>>720278297
He's doing it for free. LMAO.

>>720278413
Patents are specifically designed to not function in reality. The legal system is not reality.

>>720273138
LOL

>>720278412
>Summoning pets however has been a thing since the 80s, it's almost on the same level as patenting idk fireballs
I'm going to blow your tiny mind here.
Parenting something doesn't mean that the concept is locked off forever nor does it mean that you can't patent another method of that concept m

>>720254154 (OP)
it might be time to kill nintendo and all it's followers. Who's with me? It's time to RISE UP

>>720278486
>The specific mechanics targeting Palworld weren't included until July 2024, months after Palworld release.
You can find them in the original Japanese patent dated December 2021. In fact you can see where it says "2021 - JP" in your screenshot referring to that filing date.

>>720278594
RIIIIIICE

>>720278412
have you look at the flowchart or do you just believe the journos because it's against nintendo

>>720278594
Your fat ass would need to rise up out of your chair first.

>>720266487
>code of honour
you stupid nigger this isn't the samurai it's a company that sues youtubers for playing their games

>>720254571
if the law becomes this bullshit then you can and should just ignore it
>but they will just arrest you!
nothing you cant solve with a claymore

>>720254154 (OP)
Nintendo is just seeing how outrageous they can go with these patents at this point, huh?

the gaming industry is imploding and you are laughing?

>>720278610
Again, the mechanics made specifically to target Palworld weren't INCLUDED on the original patent UNTIL July 2024. months after Palworld release.
And you can clearly see that on the screenshot I posted describing the mechanic and the date of inclusion in the patent.

>>720266008
>Who in their right mind would be ok with Nintendo patenting basic concepts?
Simple because they didn't patent basic concepts. They patented their method of executing a concept, it doesn't mean that concept is locked off forever. Basically a patent doesn't affect anyone that actively trying to create and innovate.
>Even people who only play Nintendo games wouldn't be directly affected by it.
Did you mean "would"? Because this is a completely pointless sentence otherwise.

>>720276738
It still is. Even after the Abyssea shitshow that ran a ton of people from the game for good. I can't think of a single class that is in both XI or XIV where I'd take the XIV version over the XI one.

>>720254154 (OP)
I hope Atlus will suit Nintendo for stealing ideas from SMT

>>720278909
sega is hush hush with nintendo they will never

>>720278909
None of the big shots will do anything. It's all about the weak not rising up

>>720278909
we're talking about the same atlus that get forced by sega to port mainline Personas to nintendo machine.

>>720278278
it's simple really
type matchup skills + souls, condensation and friendship if it's from a weaker species, maybe a couple supporting pals for your main damage dealers as the rotative strat is less effective by that point

you surviving the battle is the crucial part so dodging holy bursts and air slashes is important

>>720263704
>>720264154
that's not how patents work
between big companies, you can have a silent agreement not to sue each other. Not suing people for patent infringement is not grounds for losing the patent.

Hence, large companies can look at each other and say:
>I have 10,000 patents and you might infringe on 60 of them
<Well I have 12,000 patents and you might infringe on 100 on them
>Lets not sue each other over this then
<Agreed.
It's just a tool used to keep the smaller guy down and take up as much legal space as possible

>>720276551
because it embarrassed them, so now they have to burn everything down.

>>720278835
Once again, the mechanics were in the original 2021 patent well before the release of Palworld or any appearance of the in a trailer.
>And you can clearly see that on the screenshot I posted describing the mechanic and the date of inclusion in the patent.
And if you had clicked the link I mentioned you would have found this.
What you're looking at is the US version of the patent that was filed in 2022.

A word of advice, you can't trick someone smarter than you.

>>720262239
>what is legalese
45 pages doesn't mean shit, lmao. Shit is designed to be as obtuse as possible to get people to not dig too deep into the actual content.

>>720279131
Alright, thanks anon

>>720278278
oh wait you mean lilly and lyleen nvm
you can overpower her by level/ passive traits alone

>>720279175
Anon, it's 45 pages of explaining how it works. Not "legalese".
That's how patents work.

LEAVE MY FRIEND NINTENDO ALONE!

>>720279168
No they weren't you can very clearly see the date of every change and modification for patent, the date those changes were requested and when they were approved and what specifically was changed or included and anyone can see that just checking the original patent.
Those changes targeting Palworld weren't made or even requested BEFORE 2024 and anyone that is not a deranged Nintendo dick sucker can see that.

>>720254154 (OP)
Nah. They just wanna bury Palworld. All that alarmist bullshit is just weak clickbait.

N-nintendo! H-HELP

>>720270169
Not that easy when the system is corrupt and favors corporations no matter what. America is literally like living in Cyberpunk but not in the cool Frutiger Aero and Sci-Fi 1980's way. But in the Dystopian boring, sterile, sexless, decaying way.

>>720254571
Patent lawsuits in gaming are pretty much driven entirely by power, money, and corruption. In a just world gameplay mechanics wouldn't even be able to be patented. Instead we've got one where nintendo can use their broken system to wage lawfare. It can potentially stick in Japan just because they tend to side with big companies, but the main point is to drag it out and cost Pocket Pair time, effort, and money from the legal troubles until they settle or remove more features from their games. This is a common tactic among evil companies looking to squash their competition. All patents pertaining to leisure activities should be declared null and void.

>>720279453
*Neon 1980's way.

>>720254943
They did and were successful. Are you slow?

>Japanese "judicial system"
Pocketpair is fucked.
A peasant has no right to stand up to a lord in a feudal system like that. You are supposed to apologize for hurting the Lords honor and accept your punishment.
>um, sweety, Japan is a first world capitalist country
LMFAO!

>>720279381
And yet you can see that the specific riding one you brought up was a part of that original 2021 patent in that screenshot.
You don't seem to understand how patents work at all, do you.

>>720279405
All smaller companies who wouldn't be able to fight back

If Pokemon ZA break the record, I can finally solidify that all tendies are massive corpocucks

You guys seriously need to stop badmouthing Nintendo. Don't you understand that I owe my childhood to this company?

>>720279597
it won't
not a mainline

>>720279597
>>720279646
Not very subtle.

>>720279203
no problem, i've been there
some tower fights seem unwinnable until you change a little thing and suddenly it's a quick clear

if all else fails, gobfin has your back

>>720279596
Smaller companies can and have successfully fought off larger companies. Contrary to popular anti-Nintendo beliefs, power, money and corruption have nothing to do with anything. If it did we would be living in a world where emulation was illegal instead Bleem successfully fought off Sony and set the precedent that it wasn't.

Reminder that anyone can challenge these, you do not need to be a lawyer, you do not need a ton of money, you can file a challenge to any patent.
Have fun with that information.

>>720279794
Nintendo shut down ryujinx anyway.

>>720279582
Read faggot READ.
The lawsuit is not about something as simple as ridding mounts because tons of games should have infringed that patent already, but the ability to Smoothly change from ridding objects from ground to aerial mounts.
And everyone knows these changes that weren't made until 2024 were made specifically to target Palworld with the lawsuit which is nothing but a scumbag move.

>>720279905
>The lawsuit is not about something as simple as ridding mounts because tons of games should have infringed that patent already, but the ability to Smoothly change from ridding objects from ground to aerial mounts.
Haven't WoW mounts done that since Burning Crusade?

>>720278868
Is there a good private server?

>>720279973
FF14 does that too

>>720279905
>>720279973
>>720280016

take a look at the flowchart inside the patent.

>>720279905
Excuse me but that wasn't even in Palworld.

>>720279794
Bleem was based in the US and didn't have to bow to the japanese 'law' system.

>>720279905
>The lawsuit is not about something as simple as ridding mounts because tons of games should have infringed that patent already, but the ability to Smoothly change from ridding objects from ground to aerial mounts.
Christ almighty, anon everyone but you knows that. It's called the mounting patent for simplicity.
>And everyone knows these changes that weren't made until 2024 were made specifically to target Palworld with the lawsuit which is nothing but a scumbag move.
Which is false, again, you can see it in the 2021 version of the patent in the screenshot posted earlier. Had you actually looked at the screenshot you would have noticed that this matches the abstract you have just posted.

>>720256403
Monster energy is the reason monster musume anime didn't continue you can push any bullshit by throwing your weight around in America

>>720280103
Yes. That makes it a monumental achievement. The American legal system is known for its incompetence anon.
It's recognised as one of the worst for a reason.

>>720280179
>Monster energy is the reason monster musume anime didn't continue
No?
They tried to sue Monster Hunter, Monster Musume and Pokemon at the same time and lost.

At what point will tendies be eligible to Decarlo'd in public?

>>720279905
That's still a total bullshit and would make a greek mythology game with a mountable pegasus impossible.
It's okay to patent specific things on a code level but everything else should be outlawed.

>>720280397
It's okay when Nintendo does it.

>>720280339
>>720280179
How unfathomably gay. A real good brand would have collabed.

>>720279203
oi anon also read
>>720279207
else the grind WILL wear you down by the time you reach the frozen wasteland

you're supposed to either iterate on your pals with incremental upgrades or breed the perfect blank slate and work up from there
recycling souled up pals is prohibitively expensive until endgame so you should really think twice about upgrading subpar ones, condensation not so much

plus, there's still a ton of pals out there for you to discover yet

this has made me think, is there no way for a general audience to contest a patient? like I know there are processes to challenge a patent in front of their courts if you're a competitor or someone who used the invention before, but why isn't there just a general "1 million people just don't think this is patent-worthy" kinda deal

we need someone with bigger bags to counter sue nintendo preferably in texas and take them head on their bullshit

>>720280493
Monster isn't a good brand. They're basically the overly litigious company people here think Nintendo is, suing everyone who gets in their way.

The funny part is that they never win no matter where they do it.
They tried to take out Vermonster and dropped it because of bad publicity
The Toronto raptors which was dismissed.
Thunderbeast which according to Wikipedia hasn't ended yet or at least no one updated it.
Monsta Pizza in the UK, which they lost again.
Dark Deception: Monsters and Mortals, another loss.

So yeah, you can actually fight off large companies if they suck at what they're doing or are actually doing it to troll but if it's Nintendo who only does it when they know they can win then they're fucked.

>>720280610
>but why isn't there just a general "1 million people just don't think this is patent-worthy" kinda deal
Ownership isn't a democracy anon.

You people are funny.

>>720280803
Shame their shit tastes good. God I wish I had alternatives for my caffeine fix.

>>720280610
>but why isn't there just a general "1 million people just don't think this is patent-worthy" kinda deal
Because then patent trolling would be out of control not to mention companies could just pay some mooks to say "yes it is".

>>720280897
Same, I can't let go of that aussie lemonade.

>>720254154 (OP)
CHADWORLD vs. soitendo

>>720259965
>dieing
good sneeding saar

>>720280849
Patents are not property, they are a government granted monopoly and can be taken away as such.

>>720254571
Don't worry anons, patents exists to protect the poor little guy!!!!!!!!!!

>>720275654
Nintendo suing skeet or something would be fucking hilarious
Please god make it happen

>>720281129
>Patents are not property
Yes, they are indeed property. That's how intellectual property works.

>>720267185
Co Opting with the State will never be Capitalism, it's literally Socialism by the book.

Capitalism does not side with things such as a patents, copyright and other crap.

All of that crap came from the State.

>>720267157
>looked better
Questionable. Both look shit in 3d. Last time Pokémon looked good was in sprite form.

Based Nintendo. All the rest of companies should bow before the best.

>>720280897
I must shamefully admit I did get into the meme powdered drinks everyone and their mother is shilling nowadays, but they are pretty good. One drawback is it's not carbonated and you have to have your own machine if you care about that.

>>720267405
The based chinamen copying shit without a single hint of remorse from copyright and patents is the best thing to ever happen in the western world.

You legitimately believe the State is out there to protect the people.

It's not, it exists to protect itself, leech and to grow.

>>720281469
I've been tempted to take that plunge, but I used to have a soda stream and getting the CO2 tanks refilled was always a pain.

I'm gonna level with you guys, Nintendo barely had any bearing on my childhood. It's just that spamming the catalogue with Palworld threads for two months in an attempt to push some faggy color revolution was really annoying.

>>720276551
>Just use you kajillions of dollars and make a better game or not because 30 million subhumans will still buy AZ or whatever it's called.

Why would Nintendo do that when they can spend less money by buying politicians and destroy the competition?

It's what every immoral company does when they are big enough.

Big companies don't like capitalism, it's risky. It would be much better if they were the only able to provide a service or good, monopoly and people were forced to buy with taxes.

>>720280610
There is, you've always been able to see active and pending patents and contest their validity. System is also corrupt as fuck.
This new patent is from 2023, had been sitting in the system, and was granted without review along with previously rejected patents.

Palworld won.

>>720281548
The small consumer grade stuff is kinda meh. You can get a proper setup to get soda on tap that doesn't use small proprietary tanks but it's a much higher upfront cost.

>>720282084
>You can get a proper setup to get soda on tap that doesn't use small proprietary tanks but it's a much higher upfront cost.
Sounds interesting. Got a link?

>>720258264
This is the typical cope that happens when a country enacts an unjust law, people saying "ah there is no way they will actually use it, why worry about it?".
In this case, if you can just patent things that already exist and you have to rely on the company's goodwill rather than law it will have a chilling effect on anything the patents affect.