Thread 723781992

Thought?

https://www.4gamer.net/games/991/G999104/20251020041/

In terms of the number of game-related posts, Japan is at the top of the list, far ahead of other markets.

>>723782005
>>723781992 (OP)
>Blue Archive
>Japan
Yeah we get it

the children of proseka are punching above their weight class

>>723782005
>7
What games do Indians like?

>>723781992 (OP)
I've never even heard of 7 or 9.

>>723781992 (OP)
Most likely all the fake engagement gachas build with "share this for rewards!!!"

>>723781992 (OP)
Where is wuwa saarrrs

>>723781992 (OP)
I've never played any of those games before in my entire life

>>723782302
It’s exactly that, the internet is a ghost town of pointless shit like that now. I want an Anglo only internet at this point, which bans anyone spiritually degenerate

>>723781992 (OP)
Why is Final Fantasy higher than Fortnite and Minecraft?

>>723782346
the internet is primarily anglo only right now and look how fucking bad 8s it

>>723782267
7 is Vocaloid and also had a movie so it makes sense. 9 is an idolmaster type.

>>723782005
>gaming dominates X throughout the world
I dont think gachas and artworks are exactly gaming

>>723781992 (OP)
I mean a good chunk of games on here can be played on the phone, makes sense why you would also talk about it on X while playing. I mean Final Fantasy itself has like 5 mobile games right now or something

>>723782462
gachas are games but you're the one being played.

>>723782384
Final Fantasy is the strongest brand there.

>>723781992 (OP)
>gachashit
>gachashit
>chink live-service matchmaking gachashit
>gachashit
>moviegame
>gachashit
>gachashit
>chink live-service matchmaking gachashit
>gachashit card game
>soulless live-service garbage that steals your money if you heccin swear even on private servers and died when they shooed all the modders
things are not looking up

>>723781992 (OP)
>not a single nintendo game
LMAO tendiejeets on suicide watch keeeeeeeek

>>723781992 (OP)
>blue archive
why is pedophilia getting popular?

>>723782583
>suddenly

>>723782189
who do you think is actually buying WEGs?

>>723781992 (OP)
Most likely botted to hell. X has more bots than actual users by a large margin.

>>723782583
>drawings are people
you're mentally ill. seek help

>>723782693
>implying /v/ isn't 90% bots nowadays

>>723782005
>Japan
Yeah, it's literally just coomer fanart being shared and liked. Nothing to see here.

>>723782005
>not even a single White country
Grim...

>>723782661
>jeets
>buying anything
With what money?

>>723782005
>blue archive loli porn is the second most gaming related thing shared on twitter

>>723782718
I do want to see tho

>>723782717
>implying 4chan isn't 90% bots nowadays

>>723782767
No you don't, goycattle. Just keep walking in the same direction everyone else does.

>>723781992 (OP)
>ensemble stars!! above minecraft
FUJOS, YUMES I KNEEL

>>723782710
Drawing of a...

but /v/ keeps telling me Final Fantasy is dead??

>>723782726
Yeah, even Nigeria is whiter

>>723782189
Biohazard

>>723781992 (OP)
It's not surprising given that the average Japanese Twitter account is gacha roll screenshots and food pics. It's not like these dorks are actually engaging in discussion.

>>723782768
Most of the boards are too dead to be considered botted

>>723781992 (OP)
Holy shit the only good game there is Minecraft. Why do normalfags have such shit taste?

>>723782880
... fictional character onto which you project your mental illness

>>723782661
americans.
no one else likes the western art style.

>>723783003
A fictional character that is a...

>>723782974
Normalfags are not turbo virgins playing gacha.

>>723782693
remember when elon said he would purge the bots? lmao.

>>723781992 (OP)
I don't care if it's gachashit, I just ignore those trashy games, but maybe this will wake up retarded western devs to what people want. Or I guess we'll get another decade of DEI niggers sticking their heads in the sand and boomer investors that put 0 thought into their investments of said companies.
I wonder how many times we'll have to teach these lessons to the old men

>>723781992 (OP)
Proof X users aren't real gamers and are either Gacha addicts, weebs or pedos

>>723783023
... drawing which isn't a real person and doesn't have any constitutional rights

>>723783054
Why would he cut out three quarters of his userbase?

Why are people getting their feelings hurt that Japan had more tweets

>>723783081
But enough about /v/

>>723783080
You think their popularity on twatter translates to revenue?

>>723782880
Anime character which hardly resembles a human being, but you correlate them with humans because they have a face the same way you can draw a face on a cartoon rock and humanize it.

I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT NIGGAS ON TWITTER BE TALKIN ABOUT OR HAVE TO SAY

>>723782384
Rebirth + XIV trannies

>>723783160
Yeah hardly resembles them except for perfect children anatomy.

>>723781992 (OP)
This is the case in /vg/ too, which I have to assume is the brownest board on the website.

>>723781992 (OP)
I'm guessing their just counting every instance of the hashtags, including porn art.

>>723783145
Yes popularity anywhere determines what consumers want and are willing to pay for. Sure, Snoy Movie Game with LGBTQIACFZ+ Black Tranny protag may sell 5 million copies at 60-70 bucks, but that gacha game makes hundreds of millions of sales of mtx for years and years by selling cute anime girls. Eventually Western devs will have to capitulate to our needs of beautiful women or they will die.

>>723783231
>which I have to assume is the brownest board on the website
That's /pol/, it's not even closes.

>western shit flops
>gacha gold strong
Simple economics, i will not buy western slop>>723782573

>>723783257
Gachasloppa makes the vast majority of its revenue in their host countries. They're not really that popular outside of the third world and asia.

>>723783324
>buy
Just stick to your free to play slave shit and don't talk about options you don't have.

No wonder Kino Fantasy makes all the jrpg sissies here seethe daily.

>>723782005
lmao this reinforces the internet became a brown shitshow meme. well done timmies, well done.

>>723781992 (OP)
lolicons won

>>723782420
>primarily Anglo
>owned by Jewish corporate interests
>jews overrepresented in admin or mod roles so they can correct the record
>jew bankers stop based websites opening as much as possible as they cannot host anywhere without payment providers
No, the internet is so bad for the same reason our countries are bad. We need to do a moustache man again but do it right this time

>>723783427
I spend 1k a month on gacha for my Japanese and Chinese masters gweilo

>>723783564
Sure you are lil guy.

>>723781992 (OP)
SUPREME VICTORY

>>723783564
Alright, random internet post from brown person that exists only to farm outrage. I believe you.

>>723781992 (OP)
The gacha games are only on there for the fan art submissions. I can guarantee you League and FF would have the top spots otherwise.

>>723781992 (OP)
Is League still massive in Asia? I haven't heard anything about it in years.

>>723783634
those are also there for the same reasons kek

>>723783257
Fortnite pretty much shits on any gacha garbage in terms of revenue so I think they should just emulate that instead.

>no roblox
Yeah it's fake.

westoid gaming just ain't it unc
ugly mutt ass women everywhere no cap

>>723781992 (OP)
Its all gachas...

>>723783428
>being proud of being popular in troon central
Fitting for a final faggotry fag

>>723782880
Sexy girl

>>723781992 (OP)
X is not an accurate way to determine what is actually popular.

>>723781992 (OP)
X is 75% bots.

>>723781992 (OP)
FF beating out Fortnite and Minecraft. What? Do Xers really play FF?

>>723783814
Well, Fartnite alone is certainly more popular and profitable than all mihoyosloppa combined.

>chinks are now making better anime games than Japan
how does this make you feel?

@grok is this real?

those are all games that get regular updates, therefore fresh stuff to talk about
so no wonder

>>723781992 (OP)
>attributing pornographic fan art to gaming discussion

>>723784043
That's literally all gacha generals on /vg/, also gambling.

>>723784043
sounds like /v/ to me

>>723783814
X has sadly devolved into indians posting engagement bait and rage bait to get ad revenue, shills and bots. Its only real use now is to get news. Something that trends on X usually has zero impact on how well it sells.

>>723783717
roblox is a social media on it's own also full of literal toddlers who don't go to twitter

>>723783717
You're assuming kids who play Roblox use Xwitter. They watch Tiktok vids and hang around in Discord

you can bet roblox is being talked about a lot more right now kek

>>723781992 (OP)
more than half of those get regular updates/new characters no shit gacha is at the front
>ff
DID these fuckers group every single ff mention no matter the number? because I bet my left nut this is mostly XIV.
However, LOL seriously? dude that shit is so crusty how the fuck?

>>723783770
Kino Fantasy is popular unlike your dogshit.

>>723782005
UKbros and Francebros, I'm surprised we're on this chart at all considering our small population, though at similar size I see South Korea is up there, how in the fuck.

>>723784759
Terminally online incels.

mogs /v/, whose top 10 games would be nothing

>>723784796
*Volcels

>gpose gooners keeping the FF brand afloat
ebin

>>723781992 (OP)
>2024

Too late? Nobody talks about most of this shit anymore.

>>723781992 (OP)
>Slop games dominate sloplatform
Well no shit
It's well known that nowadays shit games for casuals with predatory monetisation make more profit than true games.

>>723782005
>India
KEK!!!

I wonder why Final Fantasy is the only franchise on the list compared to every other thing being just one game. FF alone is like 9 gacha games and 1000 other games combined. Kinda pathetic.

>>723782189
Anything free that can be run on their shitty mobile phones. I remember that Krafton lost 30% players when the indian government blocked PUBG mobile initially

>>723782189
Indians are slopeople.
They play:
>Genshin impact
>All gacha "games"
>Porn and hentai games
>All waifuslop
>Fortnite, Roblox and VRchat but only to groom underage children and not for the game itself
>Very rarely, high intelligence indians might play FOTM AAA slop like Starfield, Pokémon Legends ZA and e33

>>723785331
FF diversified their portfolio well enough, I guess
not saying it's all good but at least there's enough stuff to keep people talking, PLUS actual gacha and FF14
meanwhile other game series are stuck in a never-ending hiatus

>>723785423
>>723785546
If you go onto YouTube Gaming during prime India hours you'll see the top game being streamed is "PUBG: India", so yes, their taste really is that bad.

This is why I love gacha in a sense. You literally never run out of things to talk about. You tease a new character or event and you have thousands of people immediately memeing about it.
Meanwhile you average vame is lucky to have a handful of dedicated fans who can talk about it.
Hell if you try to discuss a niche game here on /v/ you get called a shill or it just hits page 10 because it isn't racebaiting cuckshit.

>>723782809
>implying you aren't part of the same audience

>>723785963
I definitely prefer the pacing to MMOs these days
>here's your new raid, see you in 6 months assholes

>>723786132
Its that and mmo mega patches can backfire tremendously with balancing issues and content being not what fans wanted despite taking nearly an entire year to make that can delay further patches because now the devs have to rework their shit so the rest of the year you just get bug fixing and number tweaking.

>>723781992 (OP)
>social media
don't care

>>723785585
If diversified means just randomly make 5 billion games with the FF name then I guess they did.

>>723781992 (OP)
Anyone who signs up for social media is braindead, so I'm not surprised.

>>723782005
>chinkhive and muttniggers pushing gacha slop
no surprise here

>>723786402
that's exactly what it is, for better or worse

>>723782005
Shouldn't this list be per capita, or more to the point per user

>>723781992 (OP)
>twitter
>Literally a rank to see which company pays for advertising more
LMAO

>ensemble stars
huh

>>723785963
It's ironic that gacha games are basically the only fucking games you can have any organic discussion around. Tried Silent Hill f and I really liked it but I've all but given up on actually talking about it on /v/ threads for it are so full of shitpositng but go into a gacha thread and it's just people talking about the games and having a good time.

>tranime gacha, fomonite and minecraft
grim fucking shit, bros.

Who uses twitter to talk about games? Only "journalists" and advertisers

>>723786893
Because "regular" gamers have become so fucking jaded that you can't discuss anything without some fuck with grudge against the devs has to act like a schizo and ruin every thread.
Like I enjoy path of exile 2 in bursts but it's impossible to discuss the game here especially on /vg/ because it's run by terminally online nigs who have a 24/7 addiction of how much they hate the game but can't stop playing it or just moving on.

>>723786992
It's nice for cosplays, funny comics and memes. That's for gacha though. I don't know how other games get discussed there, if it at all.

>>723781992 (OP)
>Blue archive called themselves the FGO killer
>Not only they killed themselves instead of kiling FGO like they said they would, everyone in the world now knows they killed themselves
You cant make this shit up

>>723787097
>Not only they killed themselves instead of kiling FGO like they said they would, everyone in the world now knows they killed themselves
Holy mother of ESL

>>723786893
Giving trolls attention is the issue. I still have to wonder why is it impossible to block all VPNs and proxies.

>>723787161
>>723786893
Personally never played shf, but most shitposters in those threads have basically admitted to never playing the game and are just repeating misinfo or shitposts when told by people who did play the game that none of it is true, at least when it came to plot reasons.
Gameplay being an issue however is a valid subject of criticism especially in the case for shf, but /v/ also has a habit of spouting nonsense with zero basis and just repeating it as fact.

>>723782880
>>723783023
>>723783220
in gta, call of duty, and fortnite you shoot people
why are you such a hypocite?

>>723787263
/vee/ doesn't really have any rights to complain about gameplay when so many fags here "play" gachasloppa.

>>723781992 (OP)
WUWAJEETS WERE WRONG??!!!

>>723782005
Number 4, 6, 7 and 10 are why 4chan is dogshit nowadays

>>723781992 (OP)
am I supposed to act surprised

>>723781992 (OP)
>here are the top 10 games that constantly ask you to tweet about the game to get rewards

>>723782005
lol guarantee most of these are just chinese vpns considering the games in the top 10, also probably why south korea is so high

>>723781992 (OP)
how much of this botting tho?

also there are PRs engagement baits asking to retweet or twit with hashtags to win something

>>723787651
It's not surprising for Japan though. Twitter is literally their main social platform next to tiktok and instagram. It's where they do all their shit, and primarily where artists post their art since pixiv is now filled with AI and other westoid crap.

>>723787668
You are forgetting the porn

>>723781992 (OP)
>gachashit on top because people who spend their life savings want to get validation from other people
>minecraft breaking in at number 10 because incels are tweeting about their favorite vtubers playing minecraft hoping to get a reply from their oshi

>>723783770
Kek based

>>723787097
uh...

>>723787668
Gachas are just popular to talk about.
Case in point, look at the fastest generals on /vg/. Even here on /v/, gacha threads get a lot of replies provided jannies don't delete them on sight. It's the same phenomenon with vtubers a few years ago. Some things are just really popular to talk about, and these metrics show which games are popular for discussion online.
Meanwhile how many people do you see talk about supposed big games like God of War, TLOU or Horizon? Hell, Death Stranding 2 came out and quickly got forgotten without much buzz, meanwhile people who play gacha will constantly talk about characters and upcoming banners.

>>723781992 (OP)
>>723782005
Kill gacha players
Bomb gacha countries

>>723787712
i know it's popular in japan but twitter has been full of chinese shit for years now, the site is complete garbage only used for advertising and spam botting political opinions

>>723781992 (OP)
>>723782005
>most played games has the most number of posts
>most users of the platform by country has the most amount of posts
water is wet

>>723787831
"uh..." indeed

>>723787857
>Meanwhile how many people do you see talk about supposed big games like God of War, TLOU or Horizon?
fuck I want to see those numbers so bad lmao

>>723787857
Gachafags are just obnoxious and terminally online so their numbers seem bigger, same shit with /vt/fags.

Chinks and zoomers are legitimately the worst thing to happen to gaming

>>723788019
>man posting on an anonymous basket weaving forum calling someone else terminally online

>>723788019
Well, that's the point of these metrics. It shows which games and countries has the most terminally online posters. I don't know why /v/ always has to make this out to be about the quality of games when it's just about statistics, not a competition to validate your camp. Which is funny because /v/ also uses the same metrics to dunk on woke left games who bomb because they aren't popular or financially successful.

>>723781992 (OP)
Well.... Minecraft's a good sign.
Final fantasy is probably 'cuz of the MMO...
Fortnite is the lesser evil compared to gacha...
Gacha is just terrible, I'm sad to see it really has dominated so many.

>>723788070
Even if you removed them, it's not going to magically turn Fallout New Vegas or Planescape Torment as the most discussed video game of 2025 anon.

>>723788070
Nah, it's all the shit millennial devs who killed gaming.

>>723788160
>Fortnite is the lesser evil compared to gacha
hi tim

>>723788071
Do you think everyone's terminally online here, especially the people who criticize the very concept of it?

>>723788160
>Well.... Minecraft's a good sign
lmao zoomers

>>723787492
>leaving out pissreal

>>723782005
>07
Good morning sirs!

>>723788098
I mean the popularity they have in various social media also does not correlate with the revenue. CS2 made more money than Genshin in 2024 and Fortnite makes more money than all those games combined in a year.

>>723788239
Maybe not everyone but I've definitely seen schizos who haunt threads 24/7 so that you never get decent threads about games whenever he's around.

>>723788239
do you think you grandma is posting on 4chan? nigger are you retarded? just being here already make you less than 1% of internet user niche

>>723782346
>>723782302
Cope. Gacha dominates /vg/, /vt/ dominate the website and they aren't even all gacha or video games, it is Time white people STOP thinking they are the world because you're a fucking minority who need to shut the fuck up now kek. I do hate whites btw and all you'll be able to retort is some misguide about being a pajeet (the only thing worse than whites)

>>723788420
The difference is in how much time you spend here you moron. Terminally online doesn't mean that you know niche websites.

China rules the world
you're coping in it

>>723788479
yes thats exactly what it means, you are terminally online just to know those websites

Massive tendie fatigue vibes from this thread baka

I will never understand how a shithole like /v/ still has the gall to moral grandstand over other people when you're in a place that has /pol/ and /r9k/

>>723781992 (OP)
X is a platform for advertising spam. It isn't for talking. It's bizarre there is any overlap between people who use X and play games, there probably isn't any.

>>723788534
No, it means you spend excessive amount of time on the internet.

>>723788562
>people typing like twitter niggers still fall for the word filters

>>723788593
>phoneposter fail to even see he is retarded and not terminally online
every time

>>723788565
>It's bizarre there is any overlap between people who use X and play games
Well you just mentioned it. It's the place where I get my gaming news from, especially asian games. So chances are you end up tweeting and talking with other people talking about ads of video games.

>>723788564
Funny how you fags never mention /lgbt/ which is just a tranny breeding ground.

>>723788648
trvke

>>723783081
>Gacha addicts, weebs or pedos
according to the stats they are a combination of all of these.

>>723788634
It's *fails and just knowing 4chan, which hasn't been a niche website in more than a decade doesn't make you terminally online.

>>723781992 (OP)
>Final Fantasy.
When you gotta rope in the entire franchise just to make the charts.

>>723788724
>being on your phone arguing with some random anon doesn't make you terminally online
kek lol lmao even

>>723781992 (OP)
Not surprised
Disappointed, but not surprised. Also, I hate that there's no context about the number of posts about a particular game. I guarantee square will look at that and think along the lines of "any press is good press", ultimately leading to them thinking they're doing something right
>>723782005
Quantity =\= quality

>>723788795
>Quantity =\= quality
He never said it was

>>723784609
>>723788749
They know the numbers don't look good unless you mash them all together. You notice they don't do the same for another franchise that could pull the same stunt and is certainly talked about more than Final Fantasy, example being Pokemon.

>>723787974
You act like multi-media project like BA relied entirely on the game revenue, Nexon and Yostar makes tons on the backend with merchs and tied in IRL event with restaurant and pop up store.
When was the last time you see a figures for fgo out there in the wilds, like even the hot snake lady have no fucking figures

>>723788070
The popularization of gacha garbage definitely started the death of Gaming.

>>723788881
In what way?
Sony is still making their movie games while pursuing tarkov shit while Xbox is just desperately trying to be netflix for gaming.
I don't see how chink gacha about anime girls had any effect on this.

>>723788881
>westoid shartbage cope
nah that was when they shoved niggers and mutts into everything while removing male protagonists

>>723788187
You're thinking of gen x managers and bosses

>chinks saturating the mobile market with bootleg-anime gacha
>zoomers growing up with phones
>chink flu

it was a recipe for disaster

>>723787974
>Doubled in revenue during august
Was there any hot chick banner during that time since I saw nothing on xitter. Or hot guy since fujo is a major part of that game.

>>723788940
It popularized cheap mobile gaming with 0 gameplay and lootboxes. All these gacha games are just worse versions of already existing titles with tons of monetization added to it. FOMO garbage they're riddled with forces you to log in everyday and do a bunch of boring shit for a few resources.

>>723781992 (OP)
No shitendo garbo is already a big win

>>723789027
Big budget anime gacha because japanese anime gacha definitely wouldn't make zoomers touch this shit. Japanese anime gacha is primarily made for salarymen with too much disposable income who also don't want to have any attachment to the gacha because they all EOS after a year.

>>723788981
Nobody plays gacha but asians and spics. You're not actually as popular as you think you are.

>gacha saved the white race, gaming and anime tiddies
zamn...

>>723788871
SNAKE SEX

>>723789050
Of course you didn't see anything you retarded seamonkey, anything about japan makes you seethe with passion so that was something to be expected, good thing your people is irrelevant for the actual success of games

>>723789154
you said asian twice
>no one plays gacha besides 3/4 of the global population
idk

>>723789027
The seeds were already planted with MTX and other shit, covid and phones just accelerated the inevitable

>>723789104
>It popularized cheap mobile gaming with 0 gameplay and lootboxes
Those were already a thing almost a decade before shit like genshin. Remember Clash of Clans or Mobile Legends? People were playing those way back in 2015.
>FOMO garbage they're riddled with forces you to log in everyday and do a bunch of boring shit for a few resources.
Already thing in game for decades. It didn't originate nor become popularized by gacha.
Battle passes with dailies were already in ubishit games like For Honor since 2018.

>>723789154
Not as popular as most of the world? You do realize whites are a minority right?

>>723789225
>no one but turd world shitholes and Japan plays gacha
Yes. They're too poor and retarded to engage with real games, so they're tied to their phones.
>>723789229
I never said Gacha invented any of those, just that chinkslop was instrumental at popularization of all of those.

>>723781992 (OP)
You know, Quasimodo predicted this.

>>723781992 (OP)
Over half of those aren't even games but glorified slot machines.

>>723789296
Yes, and I also know that shit-eaters outside of Europe and NA have no taste whatsoever. Gambling sims like Uma Musume becoming this popular in Japan should tell you enough. These people don't want good games, they want cumbrained gambling simulators with 0 gameplay.

>>723789356
>chinkslop was instrumental at popularization of all of those.
But again that's wrong. I dont know if you even play live service shit but the shit you see like loot boxes and battle passes with dailies have been in shit like overwatch for years before the rise of chinese gacha around 2020.

Asians just always being better bros...

>>723789461
The most popular games in europe is Fifa while in NA it's call of duty/battlefield. Fornite and Roblox is the most popular game in both regions.

>>723789497
If you genuinely think that Genshin did not become popular and create countless amount of copycats because of its gambling mechanics, you might be retarded. At least Ubislop games like R6S has gameplay.

>>723781992 (OP)
yeah it's japanese people posting art
people don't talk about individual games much on twitter

>>723782005
>japan is number 1
So can we finally stop with this little larp that the poor jappy-wappys :( don't have any free time?

>>723789214
Dude, can't you just answered the guy's question instead of name calling him, this is why I don't go on /fgoalter/ anymore.
>>723789050
They put Passionlip in a bikini, nuff said.

>>723789629
It became popular yes but it absolutely did not create copycats because those systems were already in live service games for a decade. None of the systems you see in games like marvel rivals, fortnite, destiny 2 or whatever are because of genshin.

>>723789552
All of those games are still better than gacha garbage, they all have actual gameplay and they're not p2w (excluding FIFA).

>>723789748
Then how come /v/ still hates those games then if NA and Europe has better tastes?

>Genshin god
>BAchads
>LoLkeks
>HSR gods
I kneel....

>>723789841
Goes to show how irrelevant /v/ is.
This place doesn't talk about HSR but it's fucking massive in japan for some reason.

>>723789736
Genshin's biggest mistake that it paved the way for ludicrous amount of gachasloppa to be made and shilled everywhere. H: SR is one of the worst JRPG clones I've ever seen and yet people praise it because they want to fuck the characters.

>make attractive women
>save gaming
that easy, westoids never

>>723789813
/v/ is filled with contrarians and brownoids. They hate something because it's popular, but it's ok if that thing has anime coat of paint, irrespective of how awful the core game might be.

anime website... WON

>>723789916
That still has nothing to do with your original point that gacha killed modern gaming because gacha is pretty much a seperate industry compared to the gaming industry. You will never see game devs like Todd Howard or Swen Vincke pose with gacha devs at the game awards. I doubt they even consider each other's existence at all.

>>723781992 (OP)
So basically a majority of 'free to play' games that require dumping the most valuable resource in the world towards.
Not surprising since F2P games always end up like that.

>>723789908
HSR doesn't cater to brown people so thats all you need to know

>>723787974
if I remember correctly those were JUST estimate numbers on mobile
it means there is more talk in the collective PC + console sphere

>>723790072
f2p is inherently brown thobeit
this applies to the world

Out of all of them I only played 1 & heard about 6.

>>723781992 (OP)
Why are western games so unpopular?

>>723790024
Genshin's success showed others that they also should implement gambling mechanics to their games, yes. I never denied this.
>gacha is pretty much a seperate industry compared to the gaming industry.
And yet you see the shills here pretending their garbage is uber popular when the vast majority of its consumers are poor turd worlders and rich east asians.
>>723790132
Most of those games aren't even played on PCs.

>>723790286
how do you know that? ever since covid, East Asia has had massive migrations from mobile and console to PC these days
you should see who is NUMBER 2 in steam

>>723790264
Fortnite makes more money than all of those games combined. CS2 makes as much as Genshin.

>>723790324
Yeah it's chinks, but what do chinks play on PC? According to Steam, not gachasloppa.

>>723790329
>Tencent owned

>>723790415
China saving gaming and beautiful women

>>723790398
Because mihoyo games aren't on steam. They have their own launcher.

>FF is still the only relevant non-gacha single-player franchise
lol

It's good to see tendies western AAA faggots lose.
Indies & gachas are future old man.

>>723790476
>meanwhile innocent gacha is pilled on whem this western pedophile den exists
grim...

>>723781992 (OP)
Botted astroturfed gachashit. Makes sense

>>723790525
Anon... that the MMO FF

>>723790590
>Botted astroturfed
Proof?

>>723790415
Still not an animeslop gacha with 0 gameplay. What differentiates Fortnite from the turd you're eating is that it's not P2W.

>>723790286
>And yet you see the shills here pretending their garbage is uber popular when the vast majority of its consumers are poor turd worlders and rich east asians.
Well what is your metric for gauging popularity then? Because in my circle it is absolutely popular. Lots of people in my country and nearly all of asia talk about it and you see merchandize and cosplay everywhere. It seems to be weird to declare something popular when you're only considering popularity based on your locality.
The games get tons of fan art, memes, videos get millions of views and comes, and tweets get tens of thousands of retweets and engagement is fast.
That looks uber popular to me. My favorite games like bannerlord or total war are nowhere near this popular.

>p2w is le bad
dude just earn money

>>723790641
Ok but westroons still lost

>>723790641
So we're okay with BG3 now then? I thought you fags hated that game because it's owned by tencent?

>>723790638
There is no organic discussion.

>>723790674
As I said already, it's mainly popular with those 2 groups and you can see it from the examples you've provided.

>>723790735
Lost what? It makes significantly more money than all of your tranimeshit combined. It's not even a competition.
>>723790763
You think everybody shares the same opinion? I don't care who makes the game as long as it's good.

>>723790771
Those 2 groups are 2/3rds of the entire world anon.

>>723790837
I don't want you faggots to shit up everytime a BG3 thread happens then.

>>723781992 (OP)
browns, jews and shitskins with politically correct (kissing jewish ass because its a jewish honeypot) opinions are the ones talking on /x/ so don't expect anything concrete from there.

>>723790849
Why would I care what monkeys find amusing? LATAM and SEA have the worst taste in vidya ever, right behind them are East Asians.

fortnite has anime plots and skins desu?

>>723781992 (OP)
cunnychads are winning

>>723790770
I've unironically had more organic discussion with gacha threads than actual supposed game threads where it's always just baiting and people who have never even played the series but has to have some shit opinion and actling like some sort of authority regarding the games.

>>723790890
I never do that, I actually am the one who calls out Dragonian's shitposting every time.

>>723781992 (OP)
Don't those phone games encourage you to post tweets about the game for ingame rewards?

>>723781992 (OP)
>The most talked about games are those with player-shill campaigns to send in-game events and news to your own twitter in exchange for 2 cents of in-game currency
We know.

>>723781992 (OP)
>not a single snoysloppa woke garbage
OOF, must be rough for snoytroon pedos

>>723790978
In gacha threads you're talking to a shill 9.5/10 times.

>>723790934
And why would I care about the opinions of people who find tarkov clones, hero shooters and other competitive shooter slop?

>>723791047
trvke asian world

>>723791042
Better than trying to talk about video game and just outright getting accused of being a shill, like the VMTB2 threads right now.

>>723791047
Who find what? Amusing? First of all, those are actual video games with gameplay, something gachasloppa will never be. They're not P2W FOMO garbage where you'll lose anything important by skipping an event.

>my online casino is better than your online casino

the absolute state of zoomers

>>723781992 (OP)
>Gachashit
And then
>Minecraft
Oh thank god, there's still hope yet

>>723791087
If you are praising a game that isn't out yet then you are a shill

>>723791087
Nobody can find VTMB2 amusing especially if they played VTMB1.

>my boomer flop with 100 max players day 1 launch is good
uncs really

>>723791127
>skinnerbox is better than P2W garbage
Objectively yes. Skinnerboxes existed forever and they do not impact the gameplay, they don't make you better at the game just because you've spent good chunk of money.

>>723788596
Sorry senpai, I just can't help it desubakaonions

I miss the vibe when Minecraft was still in alpha. Everything was fresh and new. Now it's tainted with bloat and retarded alphies.

>>723791161
You can still express excitement for a game, or did DD2 really turn every anon into bitter jaded fucks that much?
The game I'm looking forward to next year is the Fatal Frame 2 Remake because I can already see the cancer that it's threads will be in between
>muh remake
>muh censors

>defends remake and censors
shook unc really bad vibes

>>723791216
And yet /v/ keeps shitting on korean skinnerbox games? I dare you to have a positive thread about a nexon game.

>>723782384
People love talking about Final Fantasy but hate playing it

>>723791310
Which is why I'd rather talk about gacha with supposed shills rather than argue with anons on a game I'm excited for and have a bad time. What's the point of arguing with strangers online and ruining your day?

>>723785963
>Content done by community
>Otherwise empty predatory gaymes
Go fuck yourself faggot

>>723791316
Because they're bad games.

>>723791390
And so are the skinnerbox games you mentioned but you're clearly defending them. Are we going to defend Ubisoft skinnberbox games next?

>>723791316
Anything that relies too much on coomslop is bad, because they have nothing else going on for them. Same shit with gachashit.

It's amazing how it's always the biggest dogshit imaginable that tops these popularity lists (going by any metric). You'd think there'd be some correlation between quality and popularity but that's basically never the case, it's as if the majority of the world's population loves eating shit.

>>723791389
It doesn't change the fact that it generates content that people love talking about which is the entire point of this thread.

>>723791235
I'll play the game but I will remain skeptical until the game earns any praise. There is a much better chance it's a mediocre or bad game. 67 metacritic is not good at all.

>>723787458
>Withering shit
They're subhuman

>>723782005
>France
Hein ?

>>723791437
"Defending" is a strong word but I would prefer skinnerboxes to p2w mobile garbage, yes I'd rather play The First Descendant over F/GO, doesn't mean that I will though.

>>723782312
Rent-free. Now, debunk your own revenue charts.

>>723791516
The original PS2 game has an 81 on metacritic.
Unless the game is absolutely glitchy or changes things too much which I doubt, I don't think the remake will have any serious issues beyond player preferences.

>>723787857
Gachashit is extremely good at selling you good characters stuck in the most disgusting dog shit piece of shit of games imaginable
People are fond of characters not the "gayem"
Gachashit are not games and will never be ever

>>723791595
Well tough luck because while gacha is mostly confined to asian mobile games and chinese games, western devs absolutely love skinnerbox mechanics like dailies and battlepasses because GaaS is what they consider the future of gaming.
You will own nothing and you will be happy, after all.

>>723788881
You're absolutely wrong anon
That's a symptom actually

>>723783770
You can call people faggots on x now, but Elon doesn't like Hispanics and just bans them randomly. I should know, my account was locked.

>>723791692
I'm just not gonna play them, simple as. Also, it's hilarious to me that gacha garbage is GAAS too and can close its doors anytime they want.

Gacha
>can do it at the gym, work, or community event irl.
>talk with friends about all types of content new and old.
>can contribute with acrive community
>can support your devs constantly in many ways
>no ugly bitches

Westoid slop
>dei blackrock money ensure mutt creatures and face scan hires are ugly whores
>will have the worst kind of p2w aspect compared to gacha if not outright dlc
>have to be sweaty at home and no local co op
>you still won't get a physical release kek
>westoid devs will make woke shit with your money

hmm

>>723781992 (OP)
>>723782005
>Chinese bot farm.
>"talking"

>>723791869
Go to bed pinoy.

>>723784194
>Its only real use now is to get news
And you still need to double check and not just goat headlines

>>723783513
This is mentally ill cope. You and yours are the problem

>>723791047
>Actual skill based game
>Avoids it like a plague
We know you're a faggot shitter with an addiction for gambling

Gacha tweets are always nice to look at. I'm so glad I keep my twitter account mostly free of grifters and politics.

>>723781992 (OP)
W-where is Pokemon....WHERE IS POKEMON??!!

>>723792302
Did a pokemon game come out last year?

>>723781992 (OP)
If Elon didn't cockblock tweetdeck API, Granblue would have been the number 1 game from all the people using twitter to join raids

>>723792197
>skill base game
Yeah just like how /v/ also doesn't talk about these games lmao.
NG4 just came out and the threads are slow as shit lol.

>>723781992 (OP)
All this tells me is that chinese gacha are being inorganically shilled on the most botted social media platform in history.

>>723792409
NG4 is pretty much dead everywhere. Ninja Gaiden was never really all that popular anyway.

>>723781992 (OP)
>All gambling games and Snoy appropriate games for kids and teenagers

The casinos are going to be banking HARD when these little big jackasses get older. This is the perfect time to start investing in Casinos

>>723791869
>Accidentally admits the gameplay is so shit you barely have to control it
>Spins the entire gacha model as donations done from the kindness of people's hearts
https://archive.is/cLPJh
>acrive community
>DEI
>When Gayshit is called that because of all the homo
Slant-eyes...

>>723792409
Of course a game that has no braindead brownoid shills posting about it nonstop will seem dead, it doesn't have tranime waifus or gacha mechanics you can latch onto.

>>723792302
Right behind blue archive, also this was like last year so probably just the tcg.>>723787831

>>723781992 (OP)
ummmmmmmm where are the nintendo games???

>>723792681
So you're saying is that most people don't give a fuck about talking about normal games unless they're heavily shilled?

>>723792659
>casinos
You mean pachinkos? Because those existed before gachas.

>>723792765
Being played.
Twitter is Snoy space, so don't be surprised when its just Third world gambling games.

>>723792895
What games are being played?

>>723781992 (OP)
GAWDARCHIVE I KNEEL
>inspired 2 gacha games out right now
>1 is in a process of dying
>1 is successful and is essentially BA but with H-Scenes

>>723792840
Casinos in general. Pachinkos resides in Casinos, mainly Japanese Casinos.

>>723782005
>fucking korea, thailand and indonesia above india
b-but my jeet boogeyman...

>>723792973
I mean there's no need to bank harder because 90% of the older population already spend their lives there. It's just their culture.

>>723792968
>>1 is successful and is essentially BA but with H-Scenes
Gunna need a source on that one.

>>723792929
Don't be daft

>>723792659
>boomer core
nah those die when whites die

>>723792791
More like gachafags have an extreme case of shit taste and will play anything with tranime artstyle and pachinko mechanics, and they're loud.

>>723793030
muv luv girls garden its on DMM so you need a VPN

>>723793109
You're spending more time posting here arguing about gacha than talking about "real" video games lol. Every other thread is slower than this one.

>>723782880
She is 17 year old sick fuck

>>723781992 (OP)
>>723782005

I, for one, welcome our new gaming overlords.

Anime saved gaming again...

The absolute state of "real" gaymers
>>723777376

>>723793249
Why would anyone release a game on fucking Tuesday?

>>723793170
>muv luv girls garden
Oh right I heard about this one. Guess I'll see if I can manage the JP minefield.

>>723793180
Why not? I'm having fun for a moment shitting on gachaslop.

>>723792302
They don't need to pay bots and indians to fabricate hype.

>>723793230
This is what the indians play.

>>723793538
Just admission that talking about video games isn't fun compared to talking about and against gacha, hence the popularity of gacha on twitter.

>>723793708
Depends on the videogame, and depends on what I want to do at the moment.

>>723793030
>>723793170
>>723793461

I just went through MLGG's website and there's absolutely nothing about H-scenes.

>>723781992 (OP)
Mihomo bots still going strong I see.

>>723793235
Lol you're so easily impressed. Like dangling toy keys in front of a toddler.

>>723793819
It's the trend in this site.
Look at /vg/. The fastest generals are all gacha and live service games.
https://boards.4chan.org/vg
Actual vidya discussion is niche as hell and only has a few anons bumping the threads to keep it off page 10.
Off topic shit about animals or history somehow manage to get faster engagement before jannies kill the threads.

>>723794024
People play video games to be entertained, so yes exactly like dangling keys infront of a kid, but the problem is that modern devs hate their audience and don't want to make fun or pretty looking games.

>>723794171
Slot machines are not video games nor are they entertaining. Also I was talking about the pic you posted, but you probably knew that and needed to clown yourself.

>>723793069
You hallucinated a dead company and proceeded to mention no games despite supposedly playing them. Pathetic.

>>723781992 (OP)
Yeah, I'm not with "it" any longer.

>>723794024
kek

>>723794348
And what's wrong with that video? Every year, hundreds if not thousands of people still book tickets to attend fireworks festivals here in japan. Especially in kyoto around august.

>>723794424
implessive

>>723781992 (OP)
Not surprised

>>723787857
most those threads are literally hardcore botted with nonsense. the actual people "playing" these games are not browsing a taiwanese crab shining forum. /vg/ is 90% botted 5% schizo and 5% people who believe they're in good company.
I wish the IP COUNTER still worked

>>723794424
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/B7ib_e_cPjs
Kek indeed. Shall I roll out the Escalator Monsters?

>>723794424
i am embarrassed to be american

>>723782005
Korea has their own social media, so must be Chinese

>>723794560
wholesome reddit chungus

>>723794424
>>723794737
I don't get it.

>>723794048
Gacha generals on /vg/ are just shills, bots and brownoids, you would know this if you've ever visited it.

>>723794664
nevermind, have this video instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLwJNkjG3sE

Taiwan the country.

>>723794760
Chink posts video of Chinese subway, only allowed to be used when say so by the CCP, and then they compared it to a cherry picked Subway from New York to represent the U.S.

>>723794826
And what does that make /v/ then?
>>723794608
I have been in hoyo threads way back in 2020 and the ip counters always had a hundred or more people at the time. The only other general for a non live service game I know that had this many people was the total war general.
The threads are fast precisely for the same reason /v/ is fast relative to other boards, it's the fastest thread meaning bait and shitposts gets more (You)s so nearly everyone in the entire board is in there.

>>723795084
The gacha threads here are the same shit, just look at this one.

Taiwan # 1

>>723795146
It looks no different from every other off topic thread. Just less anons accusing each other as trannies compared to western game threads.

>>723782189
Whatever the marketing team outsourcing to them tells them they like.

>>723795084
>the ip counters always had a hundred or more people at the time
And yet whenever a “new” IP would show up, it would be from some retard who’s continuing the argument of another poster in a suspiciously similar posting style. It was all bots and rotating IPs, buddy. They dodge ban evasion by constantly swapping their access, which is why the IP counter got so high. But if you look at the post tone and horribly ESL language, it was clearly like 10 virgins squabbling amongst themselves with sockpuppets.

>>723781992 (OP)
>gachashit reveal fotm waifus
>people goes batshit and make a coordinated jerking off session
>80% of them don't even play the game
>rinse and repeat
no way, gachashit is the most talked "games" on X??? big shock!

>>723795345
It depends on the thread. Some early genshin threads went so fast because there were like 5 different conversations going on.
>it was clearly like 10 virgins squabbling amongst themselves with sockpuppets.
That's the case with every /vg/ general, especially when generals usually take several hours or a day to reach the 750 bump limit. Some anons can just pop in, say something, and leave. Most of the time it's just the same handful of people circle jerking with each other, like /poe2g/. You can tell because you can pick the way people talk and identify which is which.

>>723795216
Gachashit threads are indeed off-topic considering that these are not even video games.

>>723789908
>but it's fucking massive in japan for some reason.
>some reason
Easily digestible anime trope characters sprinkled with "deep" pseudophilosophical bullshit
Mobile game
Movile AUTOPLAY game
It's built for their train commute to the salaryman factory

People are arguing against these, and yet Silksong and Hades 2 despite supposedly the best rated games this year that just came out and barely anybody is talking about them anymore.

>>723782005
>Amerimutts largely use the same platform as pajeets.
Kek! That means that you amerimutts are basically just like Pajeets.

>>723795648
There are millions of pajeets living in america anyway and hold positions in major companies and public office.

>>723787492
4chan is shit no matter what, moron. Stop blaming other countries for this shithole's retarded attitude.

>>723795781
Always has been since 2016.

>>723781992 (OP)
>league
>fortnite
>FF
>minecraft
>gacha shit for miles
I can't think of anything less surprising off the top of my head.

>>723795631
Because they are more of the same. Silksong and Hades 2 are expansions of their previous games. They are bigger but with little to no innovation. The originals are arguably much better.

>>723795489
You stupid American, just wait until I record gameplay of my own.

>>723795648
Let's just ignore every other country and the one immediately trailing behind them.

>>723781992 (OP)
Mihoyo generals should be banned
It's all ccp shills

>>723798840
Explain why I should dislike China again?

>>723781992 (OP)
>talked about
Given this is twitter, this is probably more accurately a ranking of the amount of porn drawn

>>723798840
death to america and pissrael dei

>>723782005
>gachanigs are twitter trannies and slanties
wow what a surprise

>>723798840
Pretty much, chinks still haven't made a game worth giving a shit about.

>FFXIV is the 5th most popular game worldwide
How did Blizzard fail so hard?

>>723793235
Why are the falling fireworks moving with the camera? Why are the drones moving with the camera? Why doesn't the water reflection show the drone show?

>>723782718
Actually it's more likely screenshots of gacha games being posted. Follow any JP coomer artist account and 90% of the time they'll be posting either pics of gacha or food instead of actual art.

>>723801038
>why doesn't the choppy ass water perfectly reflect objects?

You fuckers are really dumb sometimes.

>>723801209
>can clearly see the big neon buildings everywhere
>for some weird reason can't see the gigantic drone show that's bigger than them
Really makes me scratch my noggin. I didn't know they made vampire drones that don't have reflections.

>>723783051
They are because if you work a 9/9/6 like Japan, China, and soon America, you'll have plenty of money to shell out for gachas, but no free time to sit down and play a JRPG past maybe the first chapter.

>>723787097
Dude, how long are you going to cope and seethe at BA? It's getting kind of pitful now.

>>723782189
Only phone games, the rest are just shilling bots. Ask yourself, have you ever find an indian name in any multiplayer games?

>>723801352
>soon America
how about the 0/0/0? thanks for paying for my "disability" benefits losers, I'll be sure to have enough fun for both of us

>>723801647
How's that been with the whole government shutdown? You think you'll afford food for next month?

>>723781992 (OP)
>Genshin
based
>Blue Archive
based
>LoL
i don't hate it
>Honkai
based
>FF
cringe
>ZZZ
best game on this list
>project sekai
meh
>Fortnite
cringe
>Ensemble Stars
never heard of it
>Minecraft
based, unironically

>>723788468
this is genuine racism but lets see if it will get deleted

>>723789712
No, their "games" are just jpeg lootbox simulator they "play" on their morning commute to a 10 hour slave grind + mandatory 2 hour office hangout.

>>723792992
It specifically about "gaming" tags. It will definitely change if it's about politics.

>>723782736
Their lunch money, you underestimate how horny and creepy those things are.

i haven't opened xitter or whatever since 2019

>>723781992 (OP)
We did it, bros.

>>723781992 (OP)
Many people are underage retards or otherwise failures and thus poor.
Poor people can only play """free""" games.

Not that paying $90 for UEslop isn't also retarded.

>>723791316
Is there a more midwit complaint than "Skinnerbox"?
It's a videogame. You use it to artificially reap psychological rewards.

>>723781992 (OP)
>X
it's twitter. and this has been my stance since 2006 with my whole heart; FUCK TWITTER. It's ALWAYS BEEN SHIT

>>723783853
They kind of deserve it. It's clear the Japanese game industry has become stagnant and insular. You see this with Palworld and how even a former Capcom head was willing to circle the wagon for Nintendo (which even the Japanese didn't appreciate). You also have a lot of Japanese boomers in these companies that don't understand their products and still think its the 80s/90s. Just compare Da Wei to Miyamoto. Da Wei was a self proclaimed Otaku and he liked anime so much he wanted to push it. He even named the company after Hatsune Miku. He's been willing to back projects even if they don't make as much money like Honkai Impact 3rd and ZZZ. Miyamoto, on the other hand, is an out of touch boomer who thinks he's better than everyone else and that it's still the 80s. He wants the company to keep pushing Mario because he made it and is now more interested in movies in a time when gaming makes way more money than movies. The Japanese industry is full of Yesterday's men and that allowed China (and Korea to a lesser extent) to take over. The one good thing is there are way more Japanese indies coming out which is good to see.

>>723788881
Gacha games are only a by product of modern gaming that stems mainly from the Xbox 360 with the Oblivion Horse Armor DLC, it was the first time on a major market console that showed people were willing to spend real money on essentially useless cosmetics.
This problem was later compounded with mobile games which rose to popular in the subsequent years that followed and soon became full of microtransaction, ads, cosmetics, and P2W.
Eventually phones became powerful to have a console like experience and or ports of console games which is really helped gacha games become more popular since they were no longer limited to only mobile waifu games.

>>723781992 (OP)
China cultural victory.

>>723803775
Kind of insane how they're challenging Japan in the cultural victory by stealing their cultural exports

>>723803587
you people assign some type of moralization to what's happening when it's just China playing catch up and having a massive userbase that previously had no representation outside of shitty knockoffs. These "new" companies have an insane influx of capital that was just looking for some type of soft power and you're drooling over what is essentially the exact same gacha slop that JP offers.

It's all shit, just slightly different flavors of shit. It's kind of funny that China also considers this some type of cultural victory when it's literally just copying Japanese cartoons at an industrial scale. Frankly the entire market sucks and is creatively bankrupt

>>723803587
China funds their vidya and they literally steal billions from other countries through various means, it's just a desperate play to make China seem more culturally relevant but they can't create anything original. Even in creative fields they just steal shit

>>723802041
It said that street shitters are worse than whites, which is why the resident pajeetnitor deleted it.

I don't care what region is making my anime games so long as it's at the very least playable and not ai generated vn steamslop. I do find it funny that people with no stakes in it care. Japan let Nintendo patent game mechanics, this was bound to happen.

>>723804342
>it's just a desperate play to make China seem more culturally relevant but they can't create anything original
Meanwhile the only thing the west created was trannies and fent zombies. Imagine complaining about China when the only cultural innovation you have is obesity, niggers, and drug addicts.

>>723791563
League.
France is a Riot adjacent country.

>>723781992 (OP)
>only trash
Holy shit, the future is grim.

>>723808660
>the future
>>>723782005
Indians have always been shit eaters. This is normal and has been like that since ages.

>>723781992 (OP)
FF as the boomer series sticks out like sore thumb here.

>>723783080
>boomer investors
This truly amazes me. Like the video on YT of clueless boomer investors whining to Ubisoft why they don't make succesful GAAS slop like Frothnite, and the likes.
Do they play iene miene mutte or some shit with where to invest their money?
>it's a big old company it cannot fail
lmaooo absolutely braindead
Stick to your For Rent apartments business, retards.

>>723806975
Your whataboutism won't work here wumao.

>project sekai

Based. I don't even bother with the gacha shit. It's just a really solid rhythm game.

>>723808660
hey at least genshin is there, there's still hope

>>723781992 (OP)
Now remove the bots and shills from the counts.

>>723781992 (OP)
The games I like have always been niche, they're less niche now. I dont even have a twitter account. Why would I care about this? At least they aren't talking about elder scrolls, fallout and mass effect all day. Good lord, you people are boring now.

>>723781992 (OP)
SO TERMINALLY ONLINE RETARDS WHO YAP ABOUT GAMES ARE EQUAL TO JAPS, GACHASHITTERS AND MOBAFAGS. IT'S TRULY GRIM.

>>723783428
>>723781992 (OP)
Pretty sure it's just XIV
FF didn't make an impact since X and that was Squaresoft not SE

>>723781992 (OP)
All bots so no wonder a hoyo slop is on the top Mihoyo spends the most on bots
Blue Archive is up there because of the porn