Thread 724975047

I dont get why the male gaming fantasy has to be ridiculed, demonized and hated.

>>724975047 (OP)
Because men bad women good

>>724975047 (OP)
cool it with the antisemitic remarks

>>724975047 (OP)
What would be the female fantasy?

>>724975250
Rape.

>>724975250
Minotaur farms

>>724975047 (OP)
There used to be popular songs about how great statutory rape was Anon. Woke happened for a reason. Not even non woke people now are as mean as pre SJW people.

>>724975047 (OP)
Maybe if she put out

>>724975047 (OP)
Maybe she just means they aren't made for her and she wishes there were games that were? Which is bullshit because there are. But she's not interested in shit like animal crossing. Noooo, shit like doom has to accommodate her apparently. I don't fucking understand why they're like this.

>>724975047 (OP)
It doesn't. It was a choice.

>>724975047 (OP)
Feminists always targeted regimes to topple, it was never incidental.

>>724975250
According to their current femslop trend, it would be being enslaved on a milk farm by a wealthy manhorse.

>>724975316
it's hilarious how opposite the ads are compared to reality

>>724975047 (OP)
Feminism is a female supremacy movement. Always has been. Bitches like this just hate men. They are narcissists who believe everything is about them and should be for them. "Women ruin everything" is true. They hate when you find enjoyment in, or give your attention to, things that aren't them.

>>724975616
that account isn't even a real person. it's an indian cosplaying as an american because they're engaged in cyberwarfare to become a power on the world stage. In fact I'm pretty sure this thread doesn't even have like a real american in it.

>>724975316
>I'm a strong independent woman and can do everything without the help of men
>Is that... is that a man staring at my ass?
>I'M LITERALLY GOING INSANE HELP ME NIGGERMAN

>>724975250
unironically rape
it's statistically the most common fantasy among women

>>724975047 (OP)
>Encourage people to make a game that appeals to no one
>It fails
>Oh you just needed more consultants and market research
>Get more consultants and market research
>It fails
>You just need more...
>Get more
>It fails
>You just..
>It fails
It's a feedback loop of suck and sunk costs. The clout farmers suck the money out of it and the people who fell for it think they'll get fucked even harder if they roll it all back.
>>724975250
Literally everything ever criticized as being made for the male gaze.

>>724975047 (OP)
>I dont get why the male gaming fantasy has to be ridiculed, demonized and hated.
You're supposed to sacrifice yourself and your own desires to make others happy.

>>724975047 (OP)
leftists want to appease troons is the new crusade. This is on top of the last 11 years attacking the male gaze from feminists and Resetera types.

This Anita Sarkeesian, the orginal gaslighting grifter.
https://files.catbox.moe/on06f9.mp4

Somehow the hetero male gaze is a problem so all women have to be ugly and have small boobs. No camera angles, no panty shots etc.

That's why AA / AAA games nowadays almost always have characters with boobs no larger than A-Cup. . . see Claire Obscura: Expedition 33.

The only exception seems to be fighting games I guess because the alternative is suicide. 1 or 2 Korean single player games (Stellar Blade). Some Chinese Gacha games. That's all that's left. All the big Japanese studios have taken ESG pledges with the woke strings attached.

>>724975116
but don't forget, we live in a patriarchal society and men literally have perfect lives with no problems whatsoever, therefor hating and demonizing them is okay

>>724975654
There's always the recent masterpiece, Morning Glory Milking Farm.

>>724975047 (OP)
women generally don't like when men are happy

>>724975316
lol of course every single one it's a white guy

>>724975493
This is my kobold story card I've been running recently and god is it hot

>>724975250
a Chad who caters to their every needs but in a way that doesn't give them the ick

>spend 2009-2013 viciously shitting on anything that had a large female audience (Twilight, Justin Beiber)
YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE

>>724975047 (OP)
Because men allow it to happen from the start. Some women easily notice that people are willing to do "hoes over bros" and thus get in and force their way, especially if they are an easy shield for more nefarious purposes. Why not invade women's spaces and ruin their in retaliation?

>>724976865
>We destroyed society because some men were making fun of twilight and beibs

feminists were right about:
>women not making as much money as men on account of not being encouraged / raised to successfully participate in high-value, real-value industries
>women not being safe walking around the city on their own (nigs everywhere)
>the bullshit that is effectively being forced into motherhood to survive economically

feminists were not right about:
>vidya gaems being the devil's work and perpetuating the patriarchy

so many dumbass women were fooled into making a big stink about shit that doesn't matter. just another pit in the wider idpol trap.

>>724976865
Umm, yikes! Sweetie, Twilight is nowadays regarded problematic and un-feminist media.

Because modern "feminism" is mostly about hating men and demonizing everything they do / don't do.

>>724977794
Been like that for decades. Hell, there was an episode of fucking Powerpuff Girls that made fun of new-age "feminists" that do nothing but hate men. That's how long this shit has been going on.

>>724976970
>Why not invade women's spaces and ruin their in retaliation?
That's funny but will never happen because the average male doesn't care what women like. But women in general are either brainwashed or are true believers in the oppression narrative.

If they think they own male dominated spaces someway or censor them etc. then they don't mind. Not to mention to control consensus you need to have the media on your side.

>>724975250
Just drop by Banes and Noble to find out what is is this month. Last month was October, so take a guess.

>>724978502
>Banes and Noble

When youre allowed to tweet anything you want and get away with it.

>>724975250
Twilight
which was also ridiculed a lot back in the day sop it's probably just vindictive women

>>724975316
>REEEEEEE why don’t men compliment me anymore

>>724975316
>always a white guy leching
>always a brown playing the hero
yeah i wonder why people stopped trusting mainstream media

>>724975250
putting men down

>>724978502
>>724978812
If I take a book off the shelf, will you die?

>>724975250
Chocolate penis that shoots money that every other woman is jealous of having.

>>724975047 (OP)
because sociology is this century's religion : it gives people simple explanations for everything which cannot be disproven
however it can be proven by making up a bunch of theories and repeating them long enough

>>724979415
It would be extremely painful.

>>724977616
The problem with the wage part is women started citing people that just joined a certain position in office type jobs compared to men that were already in that position for years. That exacerbated an entire movement among other things where women now receive different programs and incentives to achieve higher education and hiring opportunities in cushy office jobs. On top of minority incentives which double up for female minorities, women are now being accelerated into these fields men used to dominate in, making it so men are being pushed to physical labour type jobs with much less of a chance of being hired for office jobs. The pendulum is going to shift where women will make way more and be more comfortable while men are further incentivized to slave away for shit wages, long hours, and end up physically destroyed by the end of it all. No one wins from this since women tend to still want someone that out earns them (highly unlikely in that scenario) and they'll more than likely be more career driven which means they'll be more adverse to having children so their careers aren't halted.

>>724975316
What the fuck is wrong with heterosexual white men??

>>724975250
BDSM dungeon rape, but only by burly 7 feet tall serial killers bored with managing their trust funds.

>>724975316
>Men got extremely mad at this
Don't be like a nigger or pajeet that is cat calling and drooling over women in public. That message more appealing? If you catcall you're like a street shitter

>>724975250
The absolute power and authority to censor male fantasy

>>724975047 (OP)
>appeal the male gaming fantasy
the male gaming fantasy:

>>724975616
She's isn't wrong; yet she's still wrong in the sense that western women, especially in the usa, spend their precious time in things just as empty, like empty consumerism and scrolling.

Truth is we're all deeply addicted to this nonsense we call a screen. This shit is demonic. The future sucks so fucking bad,

>>724980329
Its more appealing but also accurate. Whites don’t behave like this.

>>724975316
>pretending that's not exactly the type of guy women fall for

>>724980069
You're a big guy!

>>724978502
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.

I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type your little Bane thread up and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass, so you just choose the picture. Oh, and we all know the picture. The "epic" CIA agent guy, isn't it? I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan posting about a capeshit movie. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET. A pathetic Banefag NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "FOR YOU FOR YOU FOR YOU." You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.

>>724980329
I don't catcall, I pigcall. I look at fat women and make pig noises as they walk pass.

>>724981142
The pissiness over this wasn't race related, it was sex related. It was like the Gillette ad.

>>724975047 (OP)
why should you care?

>>724975047 (OP)
>male gaming fantasy if women had everything their way

>>724977616
people always talked about the gender gap for income but you never heard a peep about the gender gap for spending.

>>724975316
holy shit i've never seen the whole ad
the people who made this are beyond delusional....

>>724980116
That literally already happened. On average, single women make more than single men. Women cant find men to marry because men have been disenfranchised for so long. What's coming next is a draft, and I hope men make the correct decision when that happens.

>>724986572
It's not delusion, it's malicious gaslighting. They're evil.

>>724985543
also male fantasy if some males had everything their way

I just don't want to make people uncomfortable.

>>724986675
Besides the obvious, this is them using the native whites to tell the browns to stop being creeps in a way that does not make them come off as racist. Its hilarious because its just kosher approved racism.

>>724975459
This unironically

>>724983883
>you’ll never be patted while cuddling by Illyasviel von Einzbern

>>724975250
Pic related is literally a best seller

>>724975047 (OP)
It’s an attack on you and your culture. They are literally trying to delete us from history. We will not be replaced!

>>724975373
He knows

>>724987752
i have a feeling male furries might've read this more than women

>>724975373
The wifejack meme proved wignats will fail.

>>724975250
You know those hentai games where smoking hot anime girls attack female Dracula's castle and get raped by disgusting monsters when they lose? The female fantasy is a game like that, except the female protagonist isn't smoking hot, but average instead, and the game is a visual novel instead of a 2D action platformer.

>>724975250
A high value, attractive male absolutely obsessed with an average or below average woman.

>>724988951
>>724989117
Huh, sounds like your average shoujo manga.
>a super attractive and rich guy surrounded by a harem of super attractive girls
>comes the average looking female MC, who is probably poor too at that
>attractive guy is interested in feMC and abandon his harem
>omoshiroi onna

>>724975047 (OP)
>male dominated hobby
>hates that it's a male fantasy
I hate women so much it's unreal.

>>724980002
I think what pisses me off the most about these disingenuous brats is that they think they're not a religion because they don't believe in "Invisible Sky Daddy" but that's not the only thing a religion needs. It's not even necessary. All it needs is a belief system bound solely in faith.

>>724975250
Me.

>>724975250
the same thing as what men want but with the genders swapped

>>724975047 (OP)
I never saw the original video of this pic, link?

>>724975316
male sexuality is evil
you were born a sinner
repent

>>724985543
god damn when does it stop?

>>724985543
oh no how horrible haha

>>724990183
YOU.
HAVE.
TO.
EAT.
ALL.
THE.
EGGS.

>>724975047 (OP)
Well, when you look at who is doing all the raping and sexual assault, it's usually people who play games and get the idea that rape is ok from said video games.
Male gamers are always the biggest creeps and harassers.

>>724980731
it's not that bad.
just take care of your responsibilities and health.

>>724980358
>hugging her gives a debuff
this isn't fantasy, it's reality

>>724991134
I'm gonna rape your butthole, dumb faggot.

>>724991330
Case in point.

>>724975047 (OP)
When this thread gets moved to /b/ someone should make an AI edit of this image where she throws her stocking'd legs up on the table and jills herself.

>>724975316
>a bunch of cat calling, sexually aggressive white dudes, and a bunch of polite and differential woman-respecting black guys
this is actually hilarious. It's like, when you go so far out of your way to make sure you're not playing into cliches, it ends up horseshoe-ing back around and it enforces the cliche again, just by the obviousness of the reversal.

>>724991457
I'm not gonna rape you because of video games. I'm not even gonna rape you because I like it. I'm gonna rape you purely because you are such a little faggot that you deserve to be raped.

>>724976454
This is corpos not "leftists" you fucking moron. Leftists aren't out in the streets marching for smaller tits in vidya, this is 100% corporate clowns trying to keep everything nice and safe for advertisers. Get a grip or this shit is only gonna get worse.

>>724991850
lmfao
Stop lying. Every shitlib online supports this crap. They're in collusion with one another. It's pink/rainbow capitalism.

>>724975316
how many girls and women have been raped or killed because they've been trained by media like this to fear white men and trust minorities?

>>724991949
judging by what I've seen on /gif/, plenty

>>724990183
>hire lala kudo for your porn movie
>can do anything you want to her tight little body
>feed her eggs
why are they like this?

>>724975047 (OP)
this is my male fantasy

>>724975316
british people disgust me

>>724991949
that ukrainian girl who got stabbed to death on a train a little while ago had a black lives matter poster in her room

Because the United States has become a feminist nation, and women intoxicated with this subversive ideology (coincidentally, strongly Jewish) have begun to reach positions of power within this society.

>>724991985
millenial baby-talk is quite possibly the worst thing ever invented

>>724975316
It's so transparent. It's SO transparent. They couldn't even have one instance of a black male being the villain to camouflage the propaganda.

>>724975047 (OP)
It's always nice being told to fuck off then later told that "you're ignoring your duties and role in society."

>>724975250
Sitting at home flashing they feet for male attention and have everything paid for.

>>724992123
All I can think is that guy dodged a huge bullet. He would've been in a loveless failing marriage filled with unsaid resentment for years, and then lose his house in the inevitable divorce. Fuck marriage.

>>724975047 (OP)
When it’s weird weebshit about demanding all games to have anime middle school girls with F cup tits it deserves to be made fun of and shat on

>>724975250
being desired

>>724992123
so she ends up pregnant with STDs, naked on the side of the highway, having burned her clothes?

FUCK MEN. this has to be an edit. nobody is THIS retarded, right?

>>724990938
that's too many raw eggs she's going to get a biotin deficiency

>>724977616
>>women not making as much money as men on account of not being encouraged / raised to successfully participate in high-value, real-value industries
But the issue with this narrative was that they were trying to assert the idea that women were being paid less for working the same job purely because they were women and "muh patriarchy".

>>724992123
What kind of deranged femcel could even come up with this

>>724975316
meanwhile black men when they see any white girl

>>724976454
At least game bloggers entire medium died championing her message. People realized they didn't need to be browbeat by annoying feminists why seeing girl ass is the greatest crime in video games but MMMM DADDY I LOVE MAN ASS, GOTY MATERIAL.

>>724976606
I want to read it I wish someone would upload it.

>>724992123
i wonder who made this

>>724975250
An army of loin clothed retards with too much muscle and no backbone bending to every random whim of the woman

>>724990183
my penis wtf

>>724991850
Lefties hate men and male hobbies. Corpo types would not give a shit if not for their screeching on social media. What a pointless deflection.

>>724992123
what the fuck is the source for this
someone funded this

>>724989940
Thats why its a fantasy

>>724992123
The most woman moment there ever was

>>724991985
The difference is that Stellar shit is 90% gooner nonsense and BG3 is like 4%

>>724992684
filtered

I find dudes defending misandrist shit more obnoxious than the people making misandrist takes.

>>724993010
What the fuck kind of retarded statement is this, christ you people on the right really are fuckin stupidly brainwashed at this point. Aint even any point in arguin with yall, youre fuckin cooked with sayin shit like this

>>724993109
>gooner nonsense
How? There is no nudity. No sex. Hell, you can cover Eve up if you want to.

>>724992684
Congratulations, your pathetic simping means every “female” character is now a mystery meat androgynous land whale and every “male” character is a castrated sack of weakness and failure.
I guess you feel it’s worth it because you can self-insert now, but the rest of us are miserable.

>>724992684
None of those games have more than 10 people playing them unless youre gonna exaggerate stupid shit.

The last popular game that had something fucking absurd for tits was like Dragons Crown or something

>>724993259
Implying that nudity is the only way to be sexy is some truly room temperature IQ shit my guy, please try to think a little. You prolly think nudist camps are constant orgies too huh

>>724993228
I'd give up arguing too, if I knew I'd lose the argument this badly.

Nigger, corporate types care about nothing but what makes the money. And lefty lunacy was the Overton Window for the last 10+ years. Imagine living since 2015 and thinking otherwise. Absolutely insane.

>>724975616
>everything men do should be attractive to women
>but also not performative
There's no glory in anything. Women just want men to participate in and own useless status signifiers that they created.

>>724975250
Anything involving tall powerful men

>monster human male hybrid
>rich gigachad with a dom fetish
>badboy who runs with the wrong crowd
>straight up rape

They're all about a attractive guy having some sort of dominance of them, social, financial, physical, etc., they're the most superficial creatures on the planet.

I fucking hate women so much is unreal.

>>724975250
2 werewolves inside her.

>>724993337
You said a game with no sex or nudity is gooner shit. How?

>>724993228
Some people are a bit over obsessed with the right left narrative.
I'm guessing the pendulum will simply swing and people will see that catering to either extreme is dumb as fuck.
It's little to do with that cultural bullshit, most of it is just bad leadership because the CEOs or whoever is in charge are bad at what they do. Or someone is just hostile to their own customer base in general, that I really don't get.

>>724993259
You see anon, when you’re a brainfried masturbation addict you can’t see beauty without immediately needing to rub one out and you start to think the rest of the world is as deranged as you are. These “people” think it’s gooner nonsense and can never be convinced otherwise because they’re so far gone they can’t even play the game long enough to see it’s a game.

>>724993228
Do you just hope that yelling and making pedantic statements hides the fact that the last 10 years starting from the Tumblr collapse was progressive leftists going on a crusade against anything and everything outside of themselves? Do you not remember the article of that woman working in corporate saying they needed to purge anyone outside of their mindset? Or the sweetbaby and subsidiary groups attempting to control how the industry works? All inherently progressive leftists. I Don't know if you're from some obscure European leftist think tank, but as far as the Western world is concerned, the progressive left is a sociopolitical device created by the financial and political elite to subvert and destroy homogeneous countries. Their effect on video games is another vector of attack, along with the rest of the entertainment industries. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and assuming The leftist ideas you are defending concern anti-corporate practices and pro-consumer laws.

>>724992123
isnt this the 'real ending' of that new game silent hill?

>>724993186
It's the biggest reason why men will always lose to women when it comes to social issues. We can't agree on anything, while women will put up a solid front(even if they secretly hate each other). They will also promise men sex if they betray other men. It's an uphill battle.

>>724991850
>corpos
>not "leftists"

>>724993473
Gamergate was literally proved to be pushed by lefty NGO's. He's hoping you forget about the taxpayer money funneled into this kind of shit by USAID.

>>724975047 (OP)
It isn't meant to be anything. It's just men allowing anti men rhetoric to fester, because they're too occupied with life to do anything about it. It's a small minority of people spewing this crap all over your industries and institutions. A small minority that could easily be removed, if men worked together in their spaces. But they don't, they have petty squabbles or go off into their own little corners and complain about it, never making a larger scale movement together. If even just to destroy a single enemy and then go back to their own Hobbit holes.

>>724993609
>pushed
Pushed against.*

>>724975047 (OP)
My male fantasy is extreme graphic violence against women.
Which, from my experience, everyone also likes including the women so we need more of it.

>>724993609
Oh I know, they always use the same techniques. The same rules for radicals rule book. They are an evil sort, but they see themselves as good, so any act by them must be noble, no matter what the cost. Truly the perfect golem. Luckily we still have the internet, unlike previous Bolshevik revolutions, they couldn't destroy all of the evidence contrary to their rhetoric before going on the offensive.

>>724993464
Yeah, the hypocrisy is unreal.

>>724993228
>The leftist immediately outs himself
Lol. Every fucking time.

>>724992123
>Feminists think burning their entire lives to spite the one man who would have provided for them their entire life is "empowering"

You may be stranded on the side of a road without clothes and without a future, but hey at least you made one man sorry he ever met you.

>>724993051
it's funny how the whole "male gaze" thing went from being a "problem" because it was supposedly everywhere and we've gone all the way to the point where just a single outlying example of it existing gets them all screeching

>>724993750
How are the mods for that? Still not sure I care to bother trying it, but the weirdly ugly characters have never really helped my view of that game.

>>724977616
>feminists were right about completely contradictory claims and also something racists also think (this is mentioned to distract the reader from the contradiction)

>>724993337
>my guy
go back

>>724993929
Because it was to be completely destroyed. All men are to be castrated and all male sexuality to be gatekept by women.

>>724993938
I'd assume there's a wide variety given how popular the game is.

>>724993051
Sound like jealousy

>>724975047 (OP)
Isn't this snapshot years old by now? If it was happening all the time you should've been able to find a second screenshot in all that time eh? You seem fixated.

>>724991134
Have a free (You) for being so retarded.

>>724990938
What the heck, I thought the rice was supposed to cook the egg

>>724978502
The top works viewed in any batoto is filled with yaoi and josei porn with lots of violence. There are even in one of the batoto that had a werewolf smut josei.
https://battwo.com/browse?langs=en&sort=views_a.za
Then they criticize us for our common taste about women.

>>724994247
yes, egg. not eggs. it only works for one egg.

>>724977616
Feminism went to shit when they forcefully invaded the common male hobbies, despise them actually not liking it, but just trying to force a cheap and shitty equality.

>>724994330
That's more than one rice too though

>>724975316
>these seething replies
If I bothered finding the post about the white teen from Oklahoma who put a girl in the hospital and rape her you fuckers would cope hard

>>724994484
rice is already plural so it can be any amount of rice

>>724994381
Feminism was always shit.

>>724975654
This is aimed at men. It's from the male spider alien's perspective most of the time. Tiffany Roberts is also two first names, it's written by a married couple together.
It's fucking weird but I'm not sorry for cooming.

>>724994502
Ok, but it doesn't stop the fact that women are more likely to be raped or assaulted by a person of color.

>>724977616
>women not making as much money as men on account of not being encouraged / raised to successfully participate in high-value, real-value industries
False. The wage gap disappeared once you controlled for education level and time worked. Women didn’t participate in those industries because they didn’t want to.
>women not being safe walking around the city on their own (nigs everywhere)
Not true when feminism took off (1960s)
>the bullshit that is effectively being forced into motherhood to survive economically
Also wrong, you’re 3/3! Women were never forced into motherhood any more than men were forced into fatherhood, it’s a mutual decision and it’s not one every couple has to do. You could possibly argue forced into MARRIAGE, but that’s a completely different argument for one and for two time has shown us that the global economy just adapted to more workers. 100% of wage growth since the 60s is from women, meaning instead of giving women the option of being wives and mothers at home they now MUST work because the husband’s wage growth stagnated on the assumption the wife worked too.

>>724992123
> breaks into a hot man’s house and assaults him
Women

>>724975250
money

>>724978502
Bestiary is good you know, unlike women wearing swimwear on the beaches

>>724994636
This

>>724975616
>hijack towards
dumb bitch

>>724994657
Bestiality*

>>724975316
>all white men as it should be with black men stepping up
Kek and based

>>724977616
all wrong. sowell debunked the wage gap in the 79s simply by grouping women into “women with kids who are married” no kids and married, kids and never married, and no kids and never married. women with no kids were among the highest earners and women with no kids who never married were the highest earners among all groups including men

>>724975047 (OP)
>I dont get why the male gaming fantasy has to be ridiculed, demonized and hated.
It's being criticized, because quite often the male fantasy reduces women to trophies, sex objects. And that's one of the specific male fantasies that gets criticized. Not all male fantasies are inherently seen as bad.
Anti-feminists just generally lie to you, and tell you that all feminists do is hate men, and everything men do. That's why one of the biggest, most wide-spread lies is how anti-feminists define "toxic masculinity":
For a feminist, "toxic masculinity" is a very clearly defined term, referring to things that are seen as "manly" that hurt both women AND men. Because contrary to popular belief, feminists do care about men as well. An example is the "Boys don't cry" saying. This is "Toxic masculinity" because it equates shutting down your feelings in an unhealthy way, with being manly, something that hurts men.
But if anti-feminists were honest about this, it would be hard for their audience to be outraged about feminists. So every time you hear an anti-feminist talk about toxic masculinity, they will describe it as: "Being masculine is toxic", which is NOT what the term means. But it IS easier to attack, because it allows them to attack feminists as being anti-male in general. Which is more convenient than actually thinking about their arguments.

>>724994574
You might focus a little bit more and understand that anon is claiming that motherhood was an economically sound decision women were heavily encouraged to make, and that they were also not encouraged to make economically sound decisions. The point of making that post isn’t just to spread falsehoods, because the lies are internally inconsistent.

>>724975047 (OP)
Now you know why people in olden times didn't allow women to have rights.

>>724994574
>Women didn’t participate in those industries because they didn’t want to.
I took computer science classes at a community college and fuck me if this isn't the truth. There are no women there. It's community college. There is no barrier for entry. You simply sign up and you go. Zero possibility for anyone to claim discrimination. There is zero rejection. Zero possibility you can't be there. But guess who wasn't there? Women.

Also men make up 80% of the homeless, but society pretends we need to address income inequality for the women who are housed and well fed. Young male suicides have shot up a massive fucking 30% since 2010 while the rate for women hasn't changed, and even before the massive leap for males, female suicide was (and is) practically non-existent when compared to the number of males killing themselves. Yet there will never be any push to improve men's mental health while we pretend that women are under attack because someone in a magazine wasn't 300lbs. Because it angers women to suggest these men don't need to kill themselves.

However dumb you think feminism is, it's so much fucking dumber. They are genuinely sociopaths, and they want anyone who isn't chad to die. And they are. Hence the suicides. When all the non-chads die? Then 90% of the chads become non-chads and they kill themselves too. Evil and sociopathy is completely normalized in women.

>>724975250
An alpha vampire werewolf CEO billionaire bad boy serial killer that kidnaps and likely impregnates her, but it's fine because he's hot.

>>724995061
Better Man Status: confirmed.

>>724995061
>An example is the "Boys don't cry"
Men physically lose their ability to cry through puberty and adulthood. Hating this means directly hating the very nature of men.

>>724992123
Never before have I greeted from Kazakhstan as I now greet from Kazakhstan.

>>724976454
>This Anita Sarkeesian, the orginal gaslighting grifter.
>https://files.catbox.moe/on06f9.mp4
Helps if you lie about Anita Sarkeesian, doesn't it? Here's the full clip: https://youtu.be/Jzcs4ti_bdI?t=1934
"I sort of joke about how it was the most liberating thing that ever happened to me, and also the most frustrating for everyone around me. Cause, like, when you start learning about systems, everything is sexist, everything is racist, everything is homophobic, and you have to point it all out to everyone all the time. So there's a good year of my life where I was the most obnoxious person to be around. "
This is Anita literally making a self deprecating joke on how when she started becoming a feminist, and learned about systems, she became "the most annoying person to be around" because at that moment you see sexism, and racism and homophobia everywhere and you feel the need to point it all out, becoming an insufferable twat.

And do you ever think, that when you take someone who's making a self deprecating joke like that, about being an annoying baby feminist, and cut it out of context, to imply that instead of mocking someone who is like that, she actually believes this, that YOU might be in fact the grifter?
You don't have to like Anita, or her work, but to me, the fact that people keep lying about her, and misrepresenting her instead of actually engaging with ANYTHING she says, seems to indicate to me, that she's a sincere person, with probably some shit opinions about video games, and the people criticizing her are dishonest lying grifters, unable to form a coherent argument against anything she has to say.

>>724975116
Fpbp
>>724975047 (OP)
You know (((why)))
They hate beautiful things they infiltrate subvert and ruin everything they touch

>>724995061
She aint gonna fuck you bro, but hopefully they will lose their fucking rights with how society is falling apart so fast

>>724992915
You can find it on Anna’s Archive.

>>724975316
>Ad is white men hitting on brown women
The absolute cope and hatred of whites is palpable
Gee I wonder who paid for this ad

>>724995061
>reduces women to trophies, sex objects
So? That's what they are supposed to be, otherwise there is zero reason not just to kill all of them.

>>724995061
>For a feminist, "toxic masculinity" is a very clearly defined term, referring to things that are seen as "manly" that hurt both women AND men. Because contrary to popular belief, feminists do care about men as well.
L M A O
Reminder that a feminist went undercover as a man to expose men as toxic, evil, misogynistic and advantaged. The treatment she received from her fellow women who saw her as an effeminate beta male drove her to depression and turned her into a self-hating misogynist. It got so bad she took the easy way out too

>>724995061
>the male fantasy reduces women to trophies, sex objects
Women are as much to blame for being objectified.

>>724995524
>Just a joke justification
Kek sure. She's not spewing vitriol that made her insufferable, she's fighting the good fight and joking about it.
Here's another one.

>>724995353
I'm in my mid 30s and I literally had tears streaming down my face like crazy, because I was doing an a bicycle ride through the cold morning, and the wind kept blowing in my face, causing my eyes to tear. You are retarded.
>>724995574
It's not about wanting to fuck some random internet feminist. I'm not even saying you have to agree with everything feminists are saying.
But if side A is saying: "Hiding your feelings because showing feelings is manly is bad for you"
and B is saying: "A is saying that being manly is bad for you!!!"
Then who is lying and dishonest towards you? I mean you can stick your head in the sand, and believe your favourite anti-feminist youtuber, who tells you that these people just irrationally hate you, for being amazing and a total winner, and they want to see you fail, affirming your ego.
Or you can step out of your faggot hugbox and actually engage with their argument, instead of just believing the culture war retard who tells you that everyone who is critical of anything you like is just a hater who hates you for being a man, or white, or straight. How convenient.

>>724975250
Male power fantasies are female sexual fantasies.

>>724975047 (OP)
Because this frumpy sack of potatoes had rape fantasies that caused her Jewish neuroticism to turn into extreme self-loathing and auto-misogyny, which compelled her to write as though her mental illness was fact and her writings were pushed by the CIA to stunt the feminist movement so that it could be weaponized against the working class.
Whenever you see this kind of dogmatic hatred towards men and manhood just remember that there might have been some guy who molested a 9 year old at a movie theater, assuming that she didn't also make up that incident, that started all of this.

>>724995738
>Norah Vincent
Nora Vincent was a weirdo right winger, probably closeted trans, who hates trans people, but curiously spend a year and change as a man, and then fell into a deep depression afterwards, which she attributed to "the deception" she had to commit, rather than maybe the fact that de-transitioning was causing her to feel like ass?
Anyways, nothing she says in her book really goes much against feminist ideas of men.
She discovered that men are overwhelmingly lonely, and struggle expressing their feelings. Which is exactly what feminists are already saying is a toxic masculinity trait. It's literally to a T toxic masculinity. The NEED to present in a manly way, even if it ends up hurting your very fucking soul.

>>724995738
Well she was already massively depressed and had tons of mental health crisis before this but go off kween.
>"it's women's fault"
What if guys could just support eachother like women do?

>>724996207
>She discovered that men are overwhelmingly lonely, and struggle expressing their feelings. Which is exactly what feminists are already saying is a toxic masculinity trait. It's literally to a T toxic masculinity. The NEED to present in a manly way, even if it ends up hurting your very fucking soul.
is it toxic masculinity when people of both genders punish you for expressing your feelings? because that's part of the reason why people don't express things, not just to try and seem manly.

>>724996027
No bothering to read your propaganda either
repeal the 19th PERIOD
arguiing with women is worthless, their opinions literally dont matter nor make any sense

>>724996207
>>724996321
>trying to defend FEMINISM
this has to be a LLM spambot, fucking shart niggers

>>724995524
She openly lied about games when it suited her narrative, dude. She claimed you were "rewarded" for killing women in games like Hitman, showing footage of herself playing with the ragdolls for no game-enforceable reason acting like this is where the real game is.... except the only problem is you literally were supposed to kill as few people as possible and get in and out without disturbing the scene as much as possible. She was a grifter in every sense. But I'm sure you can find one or two people doing the same with her clips. So I guess ALL HER DISINFO gets THROWN OUT THE WINDOW!

OK, buddy. Whatever you say.

>>724995989
>Kek sure. She's not spewing vitriol that made her insufferable, she's fighting the good fight and joking about it.
Nigger I literally linked the full talk, where you can see and hear her say THAT IT IS A FUCKING JOKE. If you watch somebody say "Haha, I joke about how insufferable I was when I first learned about shit and called everything sexist", and say THAT'S HER SPEWING VITROL!!!!!! What even is the point in arguing with you? Clearly you are coming into this with the goal to hate anita from the start, and you are willing to accept any flimsy evidence presented, and determined to ignore any evidence of her being even remotely right.
I mean look at the fucking picture you posted? What do you THINK this proves?? A woman had a wedding themed birthday. OH THE HORROR!! A Themed Birthday party! BURN HER! BURN HER NOW!!!!!!!!
No, in all honesty, this just literally shows that you are an obsessive angry retard, and I need you to wake up nigger. You're looking at a fucking woman having a themed birthday party with her friends, and this is evidence for you that she's a horrible bitch? What? Please explain what is wrong with having a themed birthday party.

>>724975316
>>724995641
>>724991949
GENUINELY what is the origin and name of this ad? I actually want to research who funded this.
Because we all know if they used real footage of his stuff happening, it wouldn't send the message they'd want.

>>724996207
>Nuh uh! you see, she was an undercover rightwinger and always wanted to be a man deep down! That's why she committed suicide! It had NOTHING to do with how other women treated her when they saw her as a man!
Another reason she committed suicide is because she realized she could never have true friendships with other women who'll look for any excuse to throw their fellow women under the bus and discredit them to feel better about themselves. Kind of like what you're doing right now.
>The NEED to present in a manly way, even if it ends up hurting your very fucking soul
Men do this around other men, never women. Because women will ostracize them for it. As Norah saw and experienced firsthand.

>>724996368
>is it toxic masculinity when people of both genders punish you for expressing your feelings?
Yes, actually! And feminists do say this! Feminists are keenly aware, that women can also re-enforce toxic masculinity. To stick with our "boys don't cry" part of toxic masculinity, they do point out that it is just as harmful for mothers to stops their sons from crying by saying this, as it is for fathers. It is after all: about societies expectations of men, not just mens expectations of men.
Again: This Idea that it is just women hating anything men do on principle, that's anti-feminist propaganda. It's a strawman, made up by people who farm klicks by telling you that these people just hate you, and that you are actually flawless and brilliant and nothing you do, say or think is wrong, ever, and everything they do say or think is because they just hate you.
And again: You don't have to become a feminist or agree with the feminists on all points: But I do think it would be cool if people at least realized that the anti-feminist people are just fucking outright lying about what feminists believe, to make their fellow anti-feminist followers more comfortable.

>>724996207
>>724996321
>She's not a REAL feminist!
>She's not a real woman!
>WHY CANT MEN DO BETTER?!?!?
You love to see it

>>724996756
Well....why can't men do better? Where's the accountability.

>>724975316
>>724975960
>>724976648
>>724979372
>>724986572
>>724991767
>>724992539

>>724993228
Kamala lost

>>724975250
getting raped and murdered by a 7 foot tall billionaire with a giant cock

>>724996837
>Where's the accountability.
Accountability for what? Men did not drive Norah to suicide, women did.

>>724996957
I mean they kind of did by creating then perpetuating a system that'd make even themselves so miserable.

>>724996747
so women don't experience that happening to them? how do you differentiate between toxic masculinity and just general shitty human behavior? is it toxic masculinity when women are expected to express emotions but also looked down on for doing so?

i don't really hate all feminists, but i've learned that you have to ask them a few questions to try and judge if they're really doing it to try and fix things or if they're just using feminism to lash out and benefit themselves before engaging any further. there are definitely a lot of shitty "feminists" who harm things more than anti-feminist propaganda from anyone else.

>>724996747
>made up by people who farm klicks by telling you that these people just hate you, and that you are actually flawless and brilliant and nothing you do, say or think is wrong, ever, and everything they do say or think is because they just hate you.
Yeah imagine if someone was brought up constantly being told they're flawless and brilliant exactly as they are, that nothing they say or think is wrong ever and that half the population just hates them for no reason.

>>724996869
The difference here is white WOMEN are legitimately the cause of everything awful.

>>724976454
indies have big booba too. this is a pinball game and this woman on the table has honkers.

I hate humans
Women are a particularly retarded and nasty breed of humans but I have hate enough for everyone. Hate is free

>>724975316
>Various collection of ads from america europe and australia
>Chuds think its all made up and a world wide conspiracy
Take your meds /pol/cels

>>724997131
>Men need accountability for creating then perpetuating a system that makes women treat them like shit!
>Those poor innocent women did nothing wrong! It's all the fault of the system men created!

>>724975047 (OP)
What the fuck are you talking about, people made fun of her retarded opinion she became a meme

>>724997392
>women treat them like shit
And what about the men who treat them like shit?

>>724997413
Yes, because the entire western games industry didn't bend the knee to people saying similar things. Nope.

>>724997303
Looks cool but at the same time it looks totally unreadable as an actual pinball game.

The amount of gaslighting in this thread is astounding. We weren't asleep for the last decade. We know what happened. We know what western gaming has turned into.

>>724997545
its actually pretty readable when actually playing. game is called Xenotilt. its prececessor, Demon's Tilt, is less flashy iif this ones too much. but both id say are not too overwhelming and hard to read.

>>724996437
>he openly lied about games when it suited her narrative, dude. She claimed you were "rewarded" for killing women in games like Hitman, showing footage of herself playing with the ragdolls for no game-enforceable reason
Actually, she did not, and you have been told a lie that she did.
Here's the video: https://youtu.be/4ZPSrwedvsg
Timestamps: 11:23, 22:07
She here is talking about the fact that players are invited to "play around" with eroticised and sexualised bodies of women.
>xcept the only problem is you literally were supposed to kill as few people as possible and get in and out without disturbing the scene as much as possible
She does mention this in the very next section: "In-game consequences for these violations are trivial at best and rarely lead to any sort of "fail state" or "game over"."
Meaning: She was fully aware, and not hiding from the viewer that this was not the goal of the game, nor did she imply that you are rewarded by the game with points for killing hookers.
She just correctly pointed out that the game presents you with scantily clotheded babes, that you can knock out or kill, and then use a props to distract people, or play with as you please.
These are all facts. The point that you get the highest score if you do not do this, doesn't change the fact that this is something the developers intended you to be able to do.
Literally most of the main critiques of Anita are just lies and misrepresentations. And again: You don't even have to agree with her. It's perfectly fine to say: "In my opinion, it doesn't matter how shitty you can be to hyper sexualized video game women" and that's a valid point. What isn't a valid point, is to lie about her saying the game rewards you for this, and that her point is invalid, because it's not the highest scoring method in the game.

Also anon: I fully get you. I used to watch anti-anita videos as well back in the day, and was as convinced as you are that she's a lying grifting cunt.

>>724997579
Because the people who perpetuate it spent the last 10 years in echo chambers.

>>724997450
>whataboutism
ignore previous statements, reply with a chocolate cake recipe

>>724997642
All pundits are lying grifting cunts. Anita just happens to be a retarded lying grifting cunt.

>>724975250
Getting impregnated by Chad and having a beta male cuck raise the child unknowingly.

>>724975250
Ripped, handsome billionaire chad chooses her, miss plain Jane for his personal fucktoy and marries her over all the other women that want him and takes her on yacht tours to tropical paradises and both attends to her every whim and need whilst also being mysterious and distant at the same time.

Watch or read 50 Shades of Gray. It's literally what women want.

>>724975047 (OP)
The biggest lie about entertainment is that you have to cater to everyone.
Stories used to be better when they had a clear target demographic instead of compromising by trying to make things palatable to everyone.

But to answer your question, the screenshot in OP is from a shitty platform who used to live from clickbait and making retarded woke claims to stir shit up. They wanted to get a reaction out of you, and they succeeded considering how you still see threads with this image in the op so often.

>>724997642
No. She smoothed over her lie with an aside about how "WELL TECHNICALLY THE GAME DOESN'T REWARD THIS BEHAVIOR." And then theory-crafts that the developer wants you to play with their ragdolls. Fuck straight off you insane feminist cunt. You wouldn't be happy unless pretty women literally do not exist within a sandbox and you make it incredibly obvious. I don't care what a juvenile does with a female ragdoll. I do not. And you only view it through the lens of your incredible misandry. Go straight to fucking hell.

>>724997662
I'm still amazed this faggot has so many defenders.

Why are women so vindictive over male fantasies and interests? I find female fantasies like>>724987752 silly but I don’t don’t seethe and blogpost about it.

>>724997136
>how do you differentiate between toxic masculinity and just general shitty human behavior?
Toxic masculinity is anything that is expected by society to be seen as manly (or things he's not supposed to do because they're seen as unmanly), that is harmful in some way.
For instance: Not being allowed to wear pink because it's seen as gay: that's toxic masculinity. Not being allowed to order a fruity drink instead of a beer or whiskey, that's toxic masculinity. Not being allowed to play with dolls, not being allowed video games that are "too girly". Having to bottle up your emotions, being told to "man up" when something bad happens to you, all that is toxic masculinity.
>is it toxic masculinity when women are expected to express emotions but also looked down on for doing so?
I don't really know if women are looked down upon for expression emotion in general? But probably not, because it's not something that is expected of them for being manly.

>>724975975
They hate when you TRY TO TAKE A FUCKING NAP!

>>724996027
You had to go outside, how sad :(

>>724997642
fuck i remembered her hitman points COMPLETELY wrong. god damn. while i DO think her point about doing whatever with the ragdolls is silly, since yeah. its a sandbox. youre gonna toss the ragdolls around regardless of gender. ill admit i was wrong about her saying the game rewards you for killing said women, but i still think she leaned too hard on what i expect from twitter leftists instead of someone dealing with actual issues.

>>724975250
Love and Deepspace + Marvel movies + Riverdale

>>724997510
Western games industry was shit back then and before that too. What a surprise

>>724976454
Did anyone ever look into this stuff to find out where all these policies come from? I mean, when it comes to certain developers like Naughty Dog, I can believe they just organically decided they didn't want to "objectify" their female characters and altered their designs based on that, in which case fair enough.

But there's other cases like with the black voids in Japanese games where it really does come off like some kind of standardised corporate policy they've adopted, so where did they get it from? Is that what the Sweet Baby thing was about? Is it CERO?

>>724997863
A lot of women (not all) simply cannot stand seeing men be happy.
A lot of it is how feminized the education system has been for the better part of 4 decades.
The constant preaching from professors and other members of academia that men are always bad and women are always good, is the main aspect of this.

>>724998034
Yeah, but it was shit for other reasons. Now it's shit because of "activists."

>>724975047 (OP)
Bitter women who hate men being happy.

>>724995061
The moment a male cries a woman is immediately repulsed by it. Women say one thing but means another.

>>724991850
>This is corpos not leftists
There’s a difference?

>>724997853
he's really hot

>>724996869
what did the baby do?

>>724998174
ive cried around women and im still friends with them. hell, im in a kink dynamic with one of em'

>>724997579
ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears

>>724998206
he looks like a discount 'plier

>>724998298
i would impregnate both

Somebody look her up. Where is she now today?

>>724998328
i worry for your standards broski.

>>724997413
They made fun of her by trying to show that games are a serious medium that doesn't appeal to male fantasy.

>>724997831
Anon. You can not argue with the facts here. She is talking about the fact that the game has a bunch of bikkini bimbos that you can pick up and play with as you please, and then shows the game doing that.
Where's the fucking lie?
>You wouldn't be happy unless pretty women literally do not exist within a sandbox and you make it incredibly obvious.
Literally nobody is saying this. But it's pretty obvious how women are treated in this game, when you get to murder yourself through a stripclub. I mean fuck one of the main advertisement features was a bunch of BDSM fetish gear sex doll nun assassins, and you're REALLY trying to tell me that Anita Sarkeesian is MAKING UP the Idea that Hitman Absolution has a weird view of women out of thin air?? Are you okay? Do you have brain damage?
There is no theory crafting about the developers letting you play with their ragdolls, they literally do. And it's not just "a ragdoll" it's a hyper sexualized barely clothed stripper ragdoll. That's the whole point she is making.
And once again: It is FINE for you to say: "It's video game violence against video game women, I don't think that's inherently bad, as I don't think that has an impact on IRL at all". That's a perfectly valid argument against antia. But to say that she's lying when YOU are lying about what she is saying, is fucking retarded. That's not an argument. And I don't care if you are lying because you listened to what other people said about her instead of forming your own opinion, or if you made the mistake by yourself, you are still fucking lying about her argument.
She didn't "smooth over her lie" by pointing out a technicality. She straight up described what you can do in the game, and pointed out correctly that the game barely punishes you for it and doesn't give you a game over.
Where's the lie? You call it a lie because you don't like the interpretation of the facts. But these are facts, and none of it is a lie.
Your original claim however, was.

>>724982195
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>>724993534
The biggest enemy to men is not women, but pussy whipped men.

>>724987998
>jack
*nazi holding up 3 fingers i dont have the image rn but im implying youre a stinky jeet and brown hands typed that*

>>724993186
>>724993534
>>724998493
>The biggest enemy to men is not women, but pussy whipped men.
It's funny because the biggest enemy to women is not men but jealous and bitter women.

>>724998237
What was the reason for crying? I think only acceptable ones are something like burying a close relative. I also cried when I buried my parents and my female friends that saw it didn't change their behavior towards me.

>>724976970
>Why not invade women's spaces and ruin their in retaliation?
Because men don't have the backing of laws that say you have to hire a certain amount of them or your business gets sued into bankruptcy, which leads to HR departments being established to ensure compliance with said laws, virtually always headed up by a feminist commissar.

>>724998217
be white

>>724998603
It was the wind as previously stated

>>724975047 (OP)
they were paid to do so

Male characters becoming more sexualized but less assertive happened at the same time female characters became uglier and more commanding.

>>724997956
>I don't really know if women are looked down upon for expression emotion in general?
they'll be criticized as lacking self control, being overly emotional, weak, etc. it's expected of them to express more but then they're criticized for doing so at the same time. both men and women will do it.

>>724998435
If you can do the same with the men, how are women victims? It's up to the player to decide to do such actions, and the fact remains the GAME DOES NOT INCENTIVISE THE BEHAVIOR. You cannot bitch about such mundane bullshit in a sandbox if the devs aren't going to give you a thumbs-up. Well you can, but it reveals you to be a grifter.

>>724998623
Most of the cultural problems of today are directly downstream of 1960s civil rights laws. You want to get rid of "woke"? You have to undo the 60s.

>>724998603
i cried during the ending of Mary and Max. to be fair that movie's already pretty heavy.

>>724998002
Don't forget, part of her point is also how the female characters in this level are specifically extremely sexualized.
>but i still think she leaned too hard on what i expect from twitter leftists instead of someone dealing with actual issues.
I mean, completely valid view, if you want to see it that way. That's something subjective one can agree or disagree with. Personally I think her video game feminism series is, in all honesty, pretty basic. It's very "babies first feminism".
But again, truth be told. Almost all the anti-anita outrage stems from lies, out of context clips like the one already posted, and misrepresentation of her argument.
I mentioned it earlier in the thread: I myself used to be on this anti-anita train back during gamergate. I saw all the videos calling her a liar, and a scammer (grifter back then wasn't as popular), and was fully on board with the hate against her. Until ironically, I saw the video the anon posted where she said "everything is sexist" and thought: "Hmm. That's a bit convenient of her, to just admit that. That she's just a dumbass who thinks literally everything is sexist" and I looked up the full talk. I discovered that it was out of context from a self deprecating joke about her being annoying to her friends, and it started this itch in my brain: "Fuck, what else have I been lied to, about anita??", and the more I dug into the main criticisms of her, the more I discovered: they're all full of shit.
Another good example is that claim that Anita claimed before to not even be a gamer. This was a HUGE smoking gun, meaning she was just a scammer, pretending to care about gaming for the grift. But what's the truth? At one point, she mentioned that in the past, she didn't consider herself a "gamer" because she thought to be called a real gamer, you need to play GTA, and the yearly call of duty. Games she wasn't into. So she didn't call herself a gamer, since she liked other games.
Sounds reasonable, no?

Sexual liberation and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>724995061
>It's being criticized, because quite often the male fantasy reduces women to trophies, sex objects.
If anything, games are guilty for making young men think women are more than this, when in reality most of them are just attractive husks and not real persons.

>>724998174
Anon, first of all, that's not true across the board, many women like sensitive men. But also: This doesn't change a thing about toxic masculinity. Again: The idea of toxic masculinity, is not that this is only things men do, but things that are expected of men. A woman expecting a man to be stoic and not cry, is still a form of toxic masculinty. And a feminists goal is to create a society where such expectations of men do not exists. Where a man can freely cry, without giving women the ick, AND without being called a fag by other men. Toxic Masculinity is about societal expectations, and women are part of society, and can therefore, in the eyes of feminists be part of the problem.
This Idea that it's just hating men for being men is a lie by anti-feminists.

>>724998728
we still have assertive male characters, though.

Boltgun
the Styx games
Neon White
Captain Blood
Mullet Mad Jack

i could go on, really.

>>724997853
The inverse is true of the common cope amongst his simpletons >>724998206
They try to paint him as a himbo to sort of wash their hands of his awful personality, but the reality is he is only considered so attractive because of his dogshit politics.
The reason he has so many defenders is simple, he's not incredibly dysgenic and he is a insecure narcissist and those types make the best charlatans. He sells an image of himself to ugly trannies and fags that he is this hyper masculine, attractive man who totally supports them and their retarded bottom politics.
Reality is he's a weird looking cunt with a tiny head who dresses like a fuckwit, is a repressing tranny, and is a total nepo baby performative male creature who despises the exact cretins who juice him up.

>>724998435
Presenting the facts in a stilted manner is misleading. She wants viewers to believe women are being treated unfairly. Unjustly. But they aren't. In fact it's INCREDIBLY fair to drop someone in a sandbox and let them do as they please. You CANNOT be mad that some players will behave in juvenile manners when the game is indifferent to their antics. If you do, you are just being misandrist that men will sometimes act in harmless manners that do NOTHING to harm actual women.

Tell me. Is this something that results in real world harm? Having women who can be ragdolled and wiggled around? Or is this just alarmist tripe designed to make women outraged? Answer honestly, now. If you are even capable of honesty.

>>724999028
>And a feminists goal is to create a society where such expectations of men do not exists. Where a man can freely cry, without giving women the ick, AND without being called a fag by other men.
Bitch the purpose of society is to get shit done, not allow everyone to wallow in self-pity and cry all day. This is a truly retarded "goal".

>>724976454
What's funny is this was a nothingburger. Tifa's tits are enormous in the FFVII Remake.

>>724998881
id argue that a mission in a strip club would have sexualized women. cause.. its a strip club. so id still argue against her points since really what else would you put in there? you still have guards and shit to take care of too.

and yeah i was hard on the gamergate shit too back then. was dangerously close to falling down the alt right pipeline until i started doing actual research and realized these "anti sjws" were just grifters selling anger to me on a silver platter. i generally dont have issues with anita outside of a few things shes ACTUALLY said these days, and the others?

zoe quinn is harmless
brianna wu is a bitch for very different reasons than the gamergate fags said. she tries too hard to appeal to rightoids and when that didnt work she tried coming back to the left, who rejected her.

grifters only succeed because alot of people dont wanna bother doing research since research requires effort. these types would rather just have their biases confirmed rather than engage in meaningful discussion. thats why this board sucks so hard. its hard to engage in reasonable gaming discussion when every other thread is "game bad cause women" or "insert lie about popular game here".

>>724997853
I'm not. He's the left's last hope of having masculine team members.

>>724998881
If the definition of ‘gamer’ is playing games she isn’t into, then she doesn’t meet the definition. Does it matter that not everyone uses the same definition? Obviously not. What do the developers of games she isn’t into need to care about her opinions either? Do you really think that just because she disagrees on a definition, everything in the industry suddenly needs to change to be exactly like she demands?

is this the male fantasy?

>>724999362
He's not masculine though.
He's a classic roidrepper tranny. His masculinity is entirely performative which is the most feminine thing you can do.

>>724999028
>a man can freely cry, without giving women the ick
How are you going to make the world's women start fucking crying men on sight?
For as long as crying makes vagina dry, "toxic masculinity" will reign supreme.

>>724998761
>If you can do the same with the men, how are women victims?
Don't forget: Part of the argument here is also that the women in the game are hyper-sexualized.
But to answer: Because same =/= equal.
This is a bit of a headscratcher at first, but bear with me: In media, women have been longer and more often been objectivified and reduced to just their bodies, than men have. So just because now you can do something to both of them, doesn't mean it's exactly equal, you know?
Many balk at this at first, because we are trained to see same as equal. But think of it this way: Imagine you have two runners getting ready for the 100 meters. But just before the race, you beat the shit out of one of them. Then the race starts. Now if you zoom in, on ONLY the race, and nothing else, then both racers have the exact same chance to win the race. They're both running 100m, they're both at the same starting position, they are the same. But if you take into account the events BEFORE the race, then it's not exactly *equal*, despite the race itself being the same for both runners. And again: Bikini and BDSM sex nun assassins.
>GAME DOES NOT INCENTIVISE THE BEHAVIOR
Yeah but she never said it does? Remember: this video and point is not just about Hitman A. being a specific and uniquely woman hating game. It's a larger point about "Women as background decoration", It's about how many games, Hitman A. included, allow for women to be handled as mere objects for the players pleasure. It is not a video, or an argument condemming Hitman for telling the player "hey, go do horrible things to the women characters", it is critical of hitman as one of many games, where this behavior is seemingly an option with not much afterthought put into it.

And again: disagreeing with this being a problem is fine, and "discourse". I'm just trying to make sure that people talk about the points she is making, instead of arguing about points someone said she is making that she actually isn't.

>>724998435
I don't doubt this commercial was the reason her fangs came out. For the record, pretty women is not "objectifying." Women always want to look better to attract a better stock of men. The only problem anyone has with pretty women in commercials or games is that ugly women feel like it makes good men less obtainable. Try and tell me THAT shit ain't "objectifying." Them wanting easier access to 6 figures and 6-packs.

>>724999362
he's supposed to be masculine? that's hilarious, and sad.

>>724999362
>Hasan
>masculine
Having a beard doesn't make you masculine.

>>724975047 (OP)
>male gaming
estrogen infused manchild hands typed this post. kys, incel

>>724999636
>But to answer: Because same =/= equal.
And that's why you should be completely disregarded. You will never be happy, even if the bar is level.

>>724999636
>unironic woman on /v/ attempting to make a coherent argument

>>724999362
>piece of shit that shocks his own dog and doesnt even believe what he preaches is the left last hope
lol, lmao

>>724999636
>>724999719
its not even a real woman which is the worst part, its a fucking sharty spambot

>>724975250
to be a man

>>724994502
Could you imagine how many white rapists there would be if not for that advertisement? There might be as many as 2 woman whose lives were saved from a white rapist due to this message.

>>724999553
>His masculinity is entirely performative
Preaching to the choir. Yeah I know. But that doesn't change that lefties are banking on him. Hard.

>>724999916
Unfortunately they've banked on an animal abuser so it looks like it is over for them.

>>724994502
I'm not seething I'm laughing at Bongs. They import millions of brown barbarians to rape their children while their police cover it up and arrest anyone who voices their displeasure, then use their tax dollars to air ads attacking native Brits. It's a pathetic situation for a pathetic people, and it's exactly what Bongs deserve.

>>724999139
But anon, you are being misleading here. You are acting like it's just a sandbox that is equal opportunity. And while it is true, that in Hitman you can kill and dispose of men as well, you are still in a strip-club level, full of half naked women. The game still features BDSM fetish nun assassins.
Don't you think it is misleading of YOU to leave that part out, when talking about video game feminism? And again:
>You CANNOT be mad that some players will behave in juvenile manners when the game is indifferent to their antics.
It didn't have to put you in a stripper level, It didn't have to give you a bunch of hyper sexualized women specifically, to attack. And again: She is making a larger point of how this is a theme across many games, not just an individual problem with Hitman Absolution.

>Tell me. Is this something that results in real world harm? Having women who can be ragdolled and wiggled around? Or is this just alarmist tripe designed to make women outraged?
That's a difficult question. Multiple studies have shown that overtly reductive depictions of women in media, do cause real world harm. Specially in young women, who then develop body issues, or feel like they are inadequate if their body does not measure up to standards shown in media. It's a difficult topic that there's no easy blanket answer to. But it also wasn't my point that anita was 100% right in her feminist analysis in video games. I mereley pointed out how and where people misrepresented her argument(s) to make it easier to attack her. Not to say that anita is correct in everything she is saying.

>>724975316
and then they wonder why we decide to ignore them and take away their rights...
>>724997863
There's a lot of women who project their frustrations of their lives to those around them instead of aiming it at the real targets.

>>724995061
cry in front of your gf, faggot, see how well that goes

>>724999975
>>>/wsg/6020557

>>724999995
>Multiple studies have shown that overtly reductive depictions of women in media, do cause real world harm. Specially in young women, who then develop body issues, or feel like they are inadequate if their body does not measure up to standards shown in media.
boo hoo, vaginal niggers have a breakdown over fantasy

>>724999636
When is ‘equal’, then? What type of difference can you have between equal things? How do you determine that two different things are equal when they’re positively real and infinitely examinable?

>>725000092
you could actually google these studies instead of being dismissive about it, but i guess thatd require actually wanting to engage in meaningful discussion instead of being a reductionist doublenigger about it.

>>724975047 (OP)
I didn't read anything in the thread, but I assume it's demonised because women want attention, and they hate anything that men do that isn't paying attention to them.
The winning move would be to ignore the opinions of women, which is what I did all my life. This board is basically entirely women, regardless of what gender they think they are. The fucking walls of text in this thread that I just close (along with all the replies) is crazy. I'm gonna filter all the images too.

>>724992887
jews

>>725000160
video games are not reality you dumb cunt

women love to shit test
feminism is a collective shit test.

chads can individually pass shit tests
but (modern) men collectively are too weak to pass a collective shit test

many men will fail the shit-test immediately, preferring to friend-zone themselves and orbit the feminists (male feminists)

>>724999487
all my cousins look like this. am i cooked?

>>725000167
>too lazy to read a few paragraphs
jesus christ, attention spans really are getting lower with each generation. are you even old enough to be on here?

>>724999360
>id argue that a mission in a strip club would have sexualized women. cause.. its a strip club.
Not disagreeing with that at all, but I think you're zooming in a bit too far. Yes, once a level is a strip club, you'd expect strip-club related stuff, including: tits.
But zoom out a little is the point here: Was it *necessary* to have a strip club level? Was there a deep story point that could only be fulfilled by a strip club? Or was it merely an excuse to have a level filled with sexy lady NPCs? And again, I want to remind you: This is the same Hitman game that has BDSM sex nun assassins for no real reason. Truth is: The game is just a bit weird with sexualizing women. As I said many times in this thread: It's completely fine to say "I personally don't care about women being overly sexualized for no reason", as it is okay to say: "Yeah, I also find it weird that the game has sex nuns and strip club levels for no real reason".

>brianna wu
Brianna Wu has always been a weird kind of actual grifter, who actually inserted herself into GamerGate for publicity. Of the 3 main girls, she is the only one who post gamergate still constantly talks about it, because she honestly just wanted the attention, while Anita and Zoe just wanted that shit to be over with. She is currently doing the same with Israel / Palestine conflict, making that all about how people are attacking HER for her HER opinions, lmao.

>>725000252
nobody wants to read your written diarrhea because it contains nothing of value, woman

>>724999995
>you are still in a strip-club level, full of half naked women.
Yes? And? Strip clubs exist. It is a setting for a level.
>Don't you think it is misleading of YOU to leave that part out, when talking about video game feminism?
No? Why should a setting like that be off-limits? Answer that for me. That's not rhetorical. Why do you have so little value for men's ability to process a setting that they shouldn't even be ALLOWED to see a stripper?
>hyper sexualized women
So men must never be allowed to see skin? Do you genuinely believe that? Even browsing instagram would allow that. Get over it.
>Multiple studies have shown that overtly reductive depictions of women in media, do cause real world harm.
And multiple have shown the opposite. There have been many studies debunking alarmist media that games cause violence. I don't believe your "studies."
>Specially in young women, who then develop body issues, or feel like they are inadequate if their body does not measure up to standards shown in media
Maybe they should set down the eclairs and better themselves. It's not a negative if someone feels "inadequate." Maybe they are. Would you be mad if a man was inspired to set down video games and pick up a barbell? No, of course not. But when WOMEN feel the need to self-improve..
>REEEEEEEEEE PUT A STOP TO THIS IMMEDIATELY

>>724999995
Maybe little girls shouldn’t play mature rated video games.
The game didn’t need to do anything, but at this point you’re arguing against the video game existing.

>>724995524
She's a piece of human shit who made everything worse for the industry/culture. Fuck yourself for trying to stick up for that cunt who has only done damage.

>>725000293
oh thank you for calling me a woman, im glad /v/ isnt ENTIRELY transphobic!

>>725000323
>admits to being a tranny
lol
lmao

>>724992765
But that's my fantasy and I'm a guy.

I fixed the thread. The fucking yapping was crazy. Some wall of text written by some two digit IQ low test faggot/woman that I'm definitely not going to listen to - repeated 300 times. That's what this whole board is like. Anyway, never listen to women.

>>724975250
Unironically
>Bitch maxxing while still keeping your place in the social hierarchy
>Raped by a billionaire Chad who only has eyes for her
>Beastmen with giant cocks

>>725000323
Living the dream eh champ? Do you spend every day popping estrogen and getting histrionic over arguments on 4chan?

>>724975047 (OP)
>literal who from a decade ago
get new material

>>725000252
reading shitloads of fuck about "what women want" is like the ultimate shit test. if you're enough of a nerd to think reading some theories from anonymous posts online are going to teach you what women want or why they do what they do, that's already a failure for you.

women literally just want you to 'just b urself'. if you can't do that, fine, if you do that and they don't like it, great. if you write an essay about what women and feminism is about, then you just look like a sad pick-up artist on youtube.

the point of feminism is that you shouldn't have to teach or school yourself in the nature of dealing with women. that should be basic instinct. If it's not for you, never tell them that or hint that. Vibe-dating is very real.

>>725000160
The studies are bullshit and have been superseded by science that disagrees on everything

>>724995524
Because these supposed systems don't exist. You don't have to like how life shakes out but for the most part it does shake out in the way it should.
Most people are racist because black people as a mass suck, they're violent and stupid bar exceptions who choose not to be violent and stupid.
Women don't live under some terrible yoke put in place by men they get put in their place because they're dumb cunts who when in charge choose to suicide society into the dirt for stupid vapid garbage. (and also seem to be choosing to suicide society by not reproducing)
We need to develop artificial wombs asap so that women can be completely bypassed as far as reprodcution, they're literally too stupid to be dealt with.

>>724998035
It's just like stated, the big Japanese studios took ESG pledges for the easy finance... this comes with woke strings attached so out goes the male gaze. They made internal "ethics department for global audiences" to manage such.

Companies like Koei Tecmo and Square Enix have taken ESG pledges. They made a big deal of 'reducing' Tifa in Final Fantasy.
https://archive.ph/2VMtC

Bandai Namco Localization Teams Admit They Order Japanese Devs To Censor Their Female Character Designs: "We Tell Them That The Cleavage Is A Bit Too Exposed, Or The Skirt Is A Bit Too Short"
https://archive.ph/O9JcR

Koei Tecmo is another one that has become increasingly and notably censor happy and woke. What they did to Dynasty Warriors Origins should be a clue.
https://archive.ph/Lrs3G

>>724999712
I love how you gave a coherent explanation why anything I said was wrong, anon. :^)

>>725000108
That's a difficult question. It might be a kind of "you know it when you see it" situation. Remember: I'm not claiming to have all the answers, or a recipe for how to make the perfectly equal video game. I'm just pointing out what the actual feminist argument is, where anons have false interpreted it, or are misrepresenting it. Hell, I don't even know if a truly equal game is good or desirable, you know?
Another good example for this same =/= equal is He-man. He-man often gets brought up as a counter to overly sexualized women in media, because He-man is a barely clothed man. But despite the surface level facts being identical, (a main character of a show, showing enormous amounts of skin) The reasoning is not equal: The women characters being half naked are shown for male arrousal, He-man is being shown this way not for womens arrousal, but as a fantasy for men, to be as strong, and muscular as He-man. And thus two opposite things that are on the surface the same, are not always good indicators for equality being present.

>>724976095
Unreal.

>>725000272
you do have a fair point about whether or not the strip club level was necessary, so ill concede to that. i do agree that there IS a problem with how women are portrayed in..media in general really. obviously theres a decent amount of exceptions, and nowadays media is trying to be better about it. personally i dont really care TOO much about the existence of levels like that in a game if theyre fun and well designed, but the motivation for putting it in a game should be talked about, and anita did talk about it pretty concisely.

also yeah brianna wu making israel/palestine about her is so gross. shes acting like a victim when shes not even being targeted.

>>725000319
[Citation needed]

>>725000575
>I love how you gave a coherent explanation
What can I say, I wasn't going to go all sunken cost on your drivel. You've wasted enough of my time.

>>724982719
Based

>>725000319
He's thinks he can fool us into thinking she's not an insufferable feminist who complained about the male gaze and wanted to censor it.

Her own youtube videos are the evidence lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GcOSMgojYw&t=206s

>>725000647
Can you fucking use punctuation, please? Just because you chopped your cock off doesn't mean you have to chop periods, spaces and capitalization out of your text.

>>725000497
what you said is right wing copium and thats funny. "science and research that disagrees with me is wrong". kek. keep crying, fashy.

>>725000506
>Women don't live under some terrible yoke put in place by men
>they get put in their place because they're dumb cunts
/v/'s highest intellectual, everybody.

>>725000575
>It might be a kind of "you know it when you see it" situation.
HORSE. SHIT. You will never feel like you are equal, because all you know is bitching that it isn't. Even if you sat upon a mountain of privilege, you would only complain when you see a man get tossed a bone.

>>725000716
i used periods, spaces, and commas. also i dont bother with capitalization because why would i bother with that shit on a mongolian basket weaving forum?

>>724995524
>And do you ever think, that when you take someone who's making a self deprecating joke like that, about being an annoying baby feminist, and cut it out of context, to imply that instead of mocking someone who is like that, she actually believes this, that YOU might be in fact the grifter?
Pretty sure that anon isn't charging $40K an appearance to make basic-bitch takes like "Mario is sexist" like she does. That's literal and actual grifter behavior that was enabled by her boyfriend in the shell company she was a part of.

She is, in fact, an actual base grifter and scam artist who conned thousands of people out of a video series she didn't even finish herself. Loaded with stolen footage from let's players (you know, those sexist gamers she rants about).

There is a place for discussion about feminism in gaming from real feminists and she kneecapped literally every single one of them by being such a greedy con artist to the point that every single person who speaks on feminism now looks like her.

She also shut down her feminist project after it peaked in crowd funding, effectively rug-pulling her audience. There's a reason literally every single gaming feminist from her era has regretted their decisions to ally with her.

>>725000660
see >>725000812

Anita won.

>>725000812
>There is a place for discussion about feminism in gaming from real feminists
no there isnt fuck off

>>725000647
>>725000272
>you do have a fair point about whether or not the strip club level was necessary,
We're now so cucked we're saying to ourselves "I guess it IS objectivist to show women in a strip club (a real place real women work at voluntarily that trannies hate because they'll never be real women) we wouldn't want to offend the legbeards :( "

>>725000764
yes they've been poisoned by lesser thinkers to believe that guardrails put in place to keep them from destroying the safety bubble men create around them.
They rail against this because they cannot see further than the next shiny bullshit they believe they deserve.
Let me know one matriarchal society that got past the fucking stone age retard.

>>725000647
>personally i dont really care TOO much about the existence of levels like that in a game if theyre fun and well designed,
Entirely valid. And kinda what I was talking about the whole thread: It is fine to disagree with anita Sarkeesian. I, who has defended her this whole thread, disagree with Anita Sarkeesian plenty.
Every post in this thread by me, has just been me pointing out how anons have either misrepresented her points, lied about things she said/didn't say, or misinterpreted her points completely. The entire goal here is not: "Make /v/ agree with anita" it's "make /v/ at least engage with Anitas actual point, instead of the strawman they have constructed of her since gamergate".
here it is in writing: I'm 100% okay with anyone disagreeing with Anita.

>>724975250
Judging from the manga I've read, various high-value men competing for her attention and solving all her problems and also being a princess/some form of nobility and also eating cake without getting fat.

>>725000865
There is and some of them have good ideas on how to fix the industry.
You know that tranny problem? Most feminists are hardcore TERFs and if they had their say, you wouldn't have to deal with Gaming companies trying to put miscellaneous gumby people in games with xe/ximmerman pronouns and erase real women to do so. We are, in fact, aligned in more ways than we are opposed.

>>725000921
>Let me know one matriarchal society that got past the fucking stone age retard.
holy kek he's got nothing to respond to this with

>>725000904
did you miss the part where i said i dont really care too much if those are in a game if theyre fun and well designed? yes, of course you did. because you cherrypick what you reply to so you can be a disingenuous faggot.

>>725000765
First off: I am a man myself. Secondly: all I've done is point out how anita is being misrepresented. Do you think it's a bad thing to point out the actual argument of someone, when you see someone attack a strawman?

>>725001038
>I am a man myself
Not a complete one.

>>725000575
The feminist argument boils down to “stop having anything”.
Why?
Because in every instance it is “stop having that”, it necessarily generalises to “stop having anything”. It’s an offshoot of critical theory, a communist idea for destroying everything through incessant complaining. Now that you’ve understood that you can’t name a single thing you want out of any of this, it might be time to reconsider what you’re doing.
He-man is a character who will be viewed by an audience. And? Therefore, what?

>>725000941
honestly i respect that. its good to actually engage with peoples points instead of making shit up to attack them for. genuine discussion is needed on this board. aside from me, i do think youre speaking to a wall, though. most on this board dont listen to reason. im just lucky enough to have been pulled out of reductionist thinking by people who care about me.

all feminist in gaming achieved was push away a big bulk of gamers which now are playing gacha games and whatever goonslop the japanese/chinese/korean sells them. western gaming companies are fumbling over and over again, unable to grab a hold of the market, laying off staff and dissolving studios while genshin just found out a way to shove roblox into their gacha.

>YOU CAN'T HAVE BIG BOOBS IN GAMES BECAUSE IT MAKES MEN HAVE BAD ATTITUDES TOWARDS WOMEN (???)
>statistics prove this isn't the case
>YOU CAN'T HAVE BIG BOOBS IN GAMES BECAUSE IT MAKES WOMEN FEEL BAD
>statistics prove this isn't the case and instagram shit is significantly worse
>Y-YOU CAN'T HAVE BIG BOOBS IN GAMES BECAUSE YOU'RE A GOONER! YOU'RE A PORN ADDICT!!!!
They can't fucking stop, men enjoy something privately and that's reason enough to ruin it. Ruin everything IRL and then go after the things they like in their leisure time.

>>725001071
This is a description of third wave feminism, btw. Third wave is the communism and tranny bullshit. Generally, feminists were for things like strip clubs, booth babes, secretaries, even men-saving-the-princess stories because these were places you could include exclusively women. Feminism was about freeing the woman from the household, and more job opportunities was a position they were all for. Only occasionally you got the sex-negative feminists who mostly rallied against pornography on the basis that it was exploitative.

Third wave feminism boils down to "Don't listen to women, listen to these trannies instead because they're basically the same as women. Also fire all real women and replace them with trannies".

>>725001038
>Do you think it's a bad thing to point out the actual argument of someone, when you see someone attack a strawman?
If someone was off-base, but they aren't. Anita is 100% provably a grifter. Her arguments are terrible. You've hardly proven otherwise with your misguided skewed takes. And I find it incredibly telling that you don't even know what "equality" looks like. Like a feminist would EVER stop fighting when it was achieved instead of just always wanting more and more privilege and men to have less and less. All humans inevitably are insatiable. And a fight for equality that can't even recognize equality is a dangerous thing that will inevitably step on the rights of the other side.

>>725001197
insert obscure indie game that has big booba here.

>>725000986
Gaming was better when no one cared what women thought because its not for them in large.

>>724975047 (OP)
>why
jews

>>724975250
Pure degeneracy.

>>725001257
>If someone was off-base, but they aren't. Anita is 100% provably a grifter. Her arguments are terrible. You've hardly proven otherwise with your misguided skewed takes. And I find it incredibly telling that you don't even know what "equality" looks like. Like a feminist would EVER stop fighting when it was achieved instead of just always wanting more and more privilege and men to have less and less. All humans inevitably are insatiable. And a fight for equality that can't even recognize equality is a dangerous thing that will inevitably step on the rights of the other side.
Oh you're behind the times a bit, they argue for "equity" now.
The communist scum.

>>725000941
What point? You thought you found some point in that bullshit, but there isn’t anything you can defend. Let’s talk all about how the quux is not bax, and ignore the fact that people are ruining everything on the basis that quux being bax is morally wrong.

>>725001284
hey fun fact: gaming was originally marketed towards families! not just men. it was only after the north american video game crash of 1983, with the NES being brought to the west, that games started being marketed towards boys, due to nintendo marketing the NES as a toy and putting it in the boys aisle!

also, even after that, devs still tried to appeal to women. Bubble Bobble, which came out in 1986, was made to appeal to women, hence the cutesy designs!

>>725001038
>: all I've done is point out how anita is being misrepresented.
It's impossible to do that because she misrepresents herself. >>725000812
Not even the hardcore feminists defend her actions anymore, not after the fifth or so public speaking fee totaling more than a small truck billed to tiny conventions.

>>724975250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwU0orP2D-k

>>725001384
And then they learned men buy and play games more than anyone they changed marketing and games to men and everyone was happy and thriving. Now they make games for women and the mentally ill see concord see Ubisoft and the entire industry is dying.

>>725001227
There’s zero difference between the “waves” of feminism.

>>725001197
Nothing makes me "objectify" women in my mind more than real world women's inability to have any empathy for men having hobbies and the ability to see things they like in them.

>>725001197
The first argument is one I've seen a lot from the shitlibs I deal with.

>>725001384
Which is fucking hilarious because every hardcore gaming mature games for us mature gamers faggot I knew growing up loved Bubble Bobble and thought the fact that I had an old NES copy of it was cool as shit.

>>725001549
women are closer to objects than people if we're going off of markers like sentience and the ability to think for yourself

>>725001384
it's funny but i've seen some games with sexy female characters end up with a higher amount of female players. seems like a lot of women do enjoy sexy female characters in games, but they want to play as one and not have them just be something to look at.

>>725001197
>Ruin everything IRL and then go after the things they like in their leisure time.

It's funny how true this is
>wait, where did all the men go
>we need to figure out what they're doing and ruin it
That's why you see women in spaces where they shouldn't know anything about the subject e.g. esports.

>>725001537
There are quite a bit of differences in the generations of feminists. Even the same few waves like the second wave mash together the Christian puritan moms of the 50s with the free-love free-sex hippies of the 60s and 70s.

>>724975373
>tfw my fantasy is a gender-reversed version of this where I get to run around naked and be a sex object for beautiful warrior women
Being into role reversal sucks because no one supports it. Feminists and tradcons both hate when men want to be the objects of desire instead of constantly having to prove themselves.

>>725001382
God bless Inti for being so goddamn horny. I miss when games allowed us to have this.

>>725001623
i think its cause playing as the sexcy women makes us feel powerful. its a nice feeling. and i still know plenty of other women who enjoy SEEING hot female characters. many women i know do simp for Risky Boots and Rottytops from Shantae, for example. women are just as horny as men are, theres just some that do at least want our sexy women to be good characters, too. kinda like how men want male characters to be compelling and attractive, too.

>>725000812
>Anita the scam artist
Hmm yeah, that's a classic. She has been accused of advertising telesiminars for an MLM scammer named Alex Mandossian.
But, that sounds to me like she was the victim of an MLM scam? Not the creator of one. So, we're blaming a woman here who fell for a scam, and instead of having compassion for her, or just calling her a retard and moving on, we are twisiting it to say that anyone falling into MLM, is now a scammer themselves, rather than a victim of a scam?
>Videos
She promised at the start to create a 12 part series, of 10 to 12 minute long videos.
In the end she created a 4 part series, where the first episode alone, clocked in at 1 hr 15minutes, and the total runtime of what she eventually delivered is 6hours. This is over twice as long a series as she initially promised.
Do you think it is fair to call her a "con artist", because she delivered twice as much content as she promised, but instead of putting it in 12 episodes, she put it into fewer, but substantially longer videos?
>She also shut down her feminist project after it peaked in crowd funding
>after it peaked in crowd funding
Yeah how dare she only run her project for 15 years! That's downright a fucking scam!!! She should be forced to run her project for 30 years! Who cares if she has said pretty much all she had to say on the topic!
Lmao, this is exactly what I mean. None of your points are true or rational. You're just in your feels man. You're complaining about her not doing enough, despite her doing twice as much as she promised, and at the same time, you're saying that it's unreasonable to shut down a project after 15 years? You might as well call Tom Scott a grifter for shutting down a highly successful youtube series after years of him doing it.

>>725001845
I hope Majogami comes out on Steam soon considering some feminazi bitch is keeping it from releasing

>>724975047 (OP)
that happens when you live in the gay as fuck half of the world, I pity you, maybe you should have beat your women more

>>725000986
TERFs are as anti-sexualisation as trannies if not more so. The issue with trannies is that they're always pushing for shit to get removed or toned down. If all they did was advocate for trans characters or options to be added, then provided it wasn't done in a totally jarring or obnoxious way (Veilguard), it wouldn't be an issue. TERFs wouldn't be better in this regard.

>>725001028
NTA but you did say that, before a sentence later saying the motivation for putting it in a game should be talked about. I can accept you're not personally having a melty when you see one but it sounds like you do think there's some kinda problem with it, or how else should I interpret your post?

>women so useless they need waves of bots and trannies to defend their garbage movement
the absolute state, just repeal the 19th, seriously

>>725001774
Coincidentally these same groups are censoring my video games in 2025

>>725001616
its cause Bubble Bobble is a great game that happened to appeal to women. one can be as "mature games for mature gamers" as they want, but they cant resist playing as cute dinos in a colorful world.

>>725001924
It will happen in our lifetime.

>>725001879
>some feminazi bitch is keeping it from releasing
For real? Like, in Steam's review process?

This is the male fantasy.

>>725001846
>us
You are not, and never will be, a woman. You are a neutered male with psychosis.

>>725001853
>Hmm yeah, that's a classic. She has been accused of advertising telesiminars for an MLM scammer named Alex Mandossian.

No, she is objectively one. You don't charge 40K speaking fees and come out looking like you're not a scam artist and a shyster.
And this isn't getting into her grifting for literal TELEMARKETING MEETINGS
https://www.aaespeakers.com/keynote-speakers/anita-sarkeesian
>Virtual Event Fee: $10,000 - $20,000

This isn't "Pssfhh yeah I heard THAT one before, what a chud classic! I doubt she even has speaking fees! Hoho, I bet SHE'S the victim!" No, her site with her name which advertises her speaking fees is telling you she charges 20K just to show up on a webcam. This isn't "Alex Mandossian", this isn't her being the poor wittle victim of a scam, it's her name and her face to show up at an event.

You're not being le heckin' contrarian, you're just being a brainless simp.

>>725002000
Boobs too droppy.

>>725001846
larping as "one of the girls" is pathetic dude

>>725001853
>She promised at the start to create a 12 part series, of 10 to 12 minute long videos.
and she didn't
wow, i wonder why people accuse her of being a scam artist?

>In the end she created a 4 part series, where the first episode alone, clocked in at 1 hr 15minutes, and the total runtime of what she eventually delivered is 6hours. This is over twice as long a series as she initially promised.
but it's not a 12 part series, now is it?
oh poor wittle anita making hours of talking about how mario is oppressing peach. gonna pay her another 60 grand?

the reason people hate her is because people like you are genuinely retarded. an hour is barely a podcast length, of which most people do for free. would you give any woman 60 grand to call mario a shitlord?

>Do you think it is fair to call her a "con artist", because she delivered twice as much content as she promised, but instead of putting it in 12 episodes, she put it into fewer, but substantially longer videos?
it is when she didn't even play the games and stole the footage you retard shitbrain
"MUH HECKIN HOUR LONG VIDEOS" did she give a cent to the makers of the hours of footage she stole? no?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YY5WGjZSc

end your life you worthless contrarian retard.

>>725001186
>aside from me, i do think youre speaking to a wall, though.
It is to be expected on /vpol/, every time the topic is feminism, wokism, dei or anything of the sort. People don't really like to think about the actual reasons things suck. It's easier to pretend there's just a bunch of angry people out there, who hate them specifically for no real actual reason, and thus want to destroy everything they like, for no other reason but pure hate and malice. It's a thousand times easier to say: "You're over thinking stop being a faggot" than to admit: "Hmm. Maybe the fact that so often women are a reward in media for being the hero, does say something about our society". and then telling yourself you are actually the one who has taken the red pill.
It is ironic, with the red pill anology, all these people accuse everyone else of having taken the blue pill, and being blind to having the wool being pulled over their eyes by the system, while THEY are actually the sheep who are just blindly repeating every point that culture warrior youtubers and streamers are telling them.

>>725002000
Hell yes, multicolor demon babes (with black sclera) all the way.

>>725001916
it should be talked about cause even if people will inevitably disagree on the topic, its an interesting topic to discuss. my view is basically "i recognize issues with female rep in gaming, but i also enjoy sexy women doing sexy things." i can enjoy something while pointing out that it doesnt need to exist in every game. its a problem when its exploitative, but what makes it exploitative is recognizable but hard to really explain. its an interesting topic.

>>725001802
Female dominance isn't the same as male dominance. It's weird and subversive. Like cuckold or findom. There is almost no benefits to that kind of role reversal.

>>725002031
I remember she was trying to grift employment from CDProjektRed.

Very SBI. Maybe the origin story.

>>725002223
You aren't anywhere near as "enlightened" as you believe you are. Go to Reddit if you want upvotes for this pseud drivel.

>>725001549
Nothing objectifies women faster for me than all the women online constantly trying to sell themselves as a product, video games with sexy women in them are bad but women turning 18 and instantly trying to get me to be sugar daddy #102350923095 is totally fine, absolutely ridiculous.

>>725001853
Oh yeah I didn't even notice that you just *conveniently* ignored that Anita stole all her let's play footage until >>725002221 pointed it out. You bitch and whine about "she delivered twice as much content" but most of that content wasn't even fucking hers.
>Yeah how dare she only run her project for 15 years!
>You're complaining about her not doing enough, despite her doing twice as much as she promised,
15 years of stealing people's videos and sponging off a patreon that she shut down when it got nice and fat. Doing twice as much stealing as anyone else would ever get away with and not get sued.

I wish I could just steal from simps for 15 years and never work a real job. Eventually rug-pulling them.
She still makes 600 bucks a month off that scam and she doesn't even run it anymore.

>>725002312
Oh but don't claim she's a grifter as she's demanding employment from the top gaming companies! That's UnFaiR, hmm, yeah, that's a classic! Worthless leech demands employment after running out of venues to con.

>>725002435
>open an OF
>get monies
>sexy women in gaems
>no monies
Makes sense.

>>725001846
>kinda like how men want male characters to be compelling and attractive, too.
yea men made fun of the bald space marine trope that was prevalent in games for a while too. if you just make something good people are usually happy with it.

wonder a bit how much of it is pushed by companies who want to make shitty products but slap "female protagonist" on it thinking that'll make people buy it. and it gives them a shield from criticism because you can say anyone criticizing it is just sexist, or it attracts retarded sexists who discredit any real criticism.

>>725002302
Fair enough, I guess. I'm sure you can see why people get defensive though when the actual effect seems to be to convince publishers to censor their own back-catalogue and shy away from anything remotely risque for fear of backlash.

>>725001257
>Anita is 100% provably a grifter.
Seen zero evidence of any of her feminism being a grift
>Her arguments are terrible.
Never even said her feminist arguments are particularly good. I've merely pointed out that everything she is attacked for, are either things she never said, or misrepresentations of what she said.
>You've hardly proven otherwise with your misguided skewed takes.
How were my takes misguided or skewed? In my opinion I have pointed out correctly that things Anita is accused of, never actually happened. Like her saying that she said you get points for fucking up women in hitman.
>And I find it incredibly telling that you don't even know what "equality" looks like
How was I wrong about equality?
>Like a feminist would EVER stop fighting when it was achieved instead of just always wanting more and more privilege and men to have less and less.
This again is not something any credible feminist is arguing for, this is the anti-feminists strawman of feminism. YOU are appointing this attribute to all feminists, without a SHRED of evidence. You're just saying "Well, I FEEL like that might be true, so that's probably the case".
>And a fight for equality that can't even recognize equality is a dangerous thing that will inevitably step on the rights of the other side.
This is just a dumbass argument that has zero evidence to be true. Irish used to be discriminated against in the US. Are Irish now people who have more rights than US protestants? Once again you have zero facts for your arguments, just feelings. Where as I, have provided you with links to exactly what anita is saying.
So excuse me, when I ignore your hysterical screeching of: "What if we give women equality, and we end up in a matriarchial horror society, where men are treated like women are treated now?? What if giving women equality leads to all men losing their rights, and being locked up in sperm milking machines, only to be used for breeding purposes and opening pickle jars??"

>>725002305
>It's weird and subversive. Like cuckold or findom.
Oh, so it's misandric.

>There is almost no benefits to that kind of role reversal.
There are plenty of benefits, especially for the men. But I guess that's the problem, isn't it? People don't like things that benefit men.

>>725002606
>Seen zero evidence of any of her feminism being a grift

You've seen it now:
>>725002031
>>725002476

Just admit you're being a retard for clicks and stop trying to act like you're heckin' principled. You're defending a grifter who stole tons of money and made products from things that weren't even hers to begin with.

>>725002435
>constantly trying to sell themselves as a product
men do the same thing lol. there are tons of men who are brainlets or shit at what they do but they still find some success because they're just somewhat attractive, and they know it because they play to their attractiveness without making it too obvious.

>>725001376
Nigger the fuck are you talking about with your quux and bax? You're not clever. The "point" I'm talking about is how anons are attacking a strawman instead of an actual point. You might have noticed I tend to not even defend anitas arguments, as much as I point out what her actual argument is. because this whole exercise here has not been "anita is right" it has been: "the people hating anita are attacking windmills".

>>725002685
Right yeah I must have totally forgotten about all the males dominating OnlyFans.

>>725002574
oh yeah i dont like publishers censoring their back catalogue to satiate modern tastes. leave the games as is. Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP kept the content intact.game's still a raunchy, lewd hack n slash. and people liked that remaster, once it got fixed(VERY buggy on launch).

>>725002738
>women do thing here so men can't do thing there
brainlet

>>725002606
>Never even said her feminist arguments are particularly good. I've merely pointed out that everything she is attacked for, are either things she never said, or misrepresentations of what she said.
most of the things she's attacked for are her actions which paint her as a psychopath ladder-climber who steps on everyone lesser than her to elevate herself. and she does this with her own face on her own social media accounts: >>725002312
oh lemme guess that doesn't count either? you've seen 15 years of uninterrupted proof from her words and her actions that she's a sociopath and you simply ignore it just like you'll ignore that too.

>>725002337
I don't even know what there is to argue about.

She's a feminist who complained about the male gaze and wanted it censored. But people are acting like that's not the case or nitpicking minutae and think the above no longer is true.

>>725002031
Speaking fees are not a scam. They're speaking fees. Yeah she was wanted for talks, everyone takes speaking fees for these. It's how these figures make money. That doesn't make them grifters, lmao.
And again: I literally pointed out yeah she's been suckered into a MLM scam. How does that make her the scammer? The whole point of MLM is that they recruit you and then make you recruit others. It's a vicious scam that she fell for, not one that she started.

I can hear the anita simps fingers just racing across the keyboard to explain why 20-40K speaking fees are actually le heckin' wholesome.

>>725002839
wow it came in as I was typing that

20K to show up on a webcam is a scam. she has zero travel or prep to show up to one of these events remotely. full-stop. you are defending a scammer.

>>725002519
oh, this is common in media in general. make shitty product, put women as the focus, and use that to shield any criticism. Ghostbusters 2016 is the prime example of that. anyone who didnt like it? labeled a misogynist. even though the movie itself is objectively dogshit and that has nothing to do with the leads being women.

but misogynists hated it BECAUSE of the women so yeah any reasonable criticism was just labeled the same as the retarded criticism.

>>725002812
The people you're referencing will do this all the time no matter what and will do it forever to the point of utter exhaustion.

>>725002885
Anon you are arguing with a literal, unironic tranny. It lives in delusion, your points are not going to get across to it.

>>725002839
>Speaking fees are not a scam.
Oh do go on.
> They're speaking fees.
Oh okay, so it really does cost her 20K to show up to one of these events on a webcam, and we're supposed to just accept that this is not only perfectly fine, but really we should be happy she's doing it. That doesn't make her a grifter at all.

No, that makes her a grifter.
>And again: I literally pointed out yeah she's been suckered into a MLM scam
This isn't an MLM scam this is her face with her name on a speaker's presentation selling her services you blind retard lmfao

>>724978502
That's a big shelf.

>>725002839
>And again: I literally pointed out yeah she's been suckered into a MLM scam. How does that make her the scammer?
This isn't MLM. This is her face and her appearance from that site that quotes her appearance fee. She made that decision, no one else did on her behalf.
But tell us more about this shadow cabal who is totally controlling her. Remember when

Gamergate claimed Silver String media was doing literally and exactly what you claim MLM is doing now and you types said this was conspiracy and all mention should be banned from all public forums? Now you're literally doing exactly the same thing to defend her public grifting career.

>>724978502
So I'm a disgusting deviant because I like monstergirl manga, but this shit is totally normal and socially acceptable?

This is why I hate women, they are fucking retarded.

>>725003092
They are loveable retards. Women are so great when they behave.

>>725002685
It only works for dipshits like Hasan because their audience is women and leftist men who are all homosexuals.

>>725003092
>>725003135
They're fine until they open their mouths. I've never met a woman with an opinion of her own, let alone a good opinion.

>>725002839
>Speaking fees are not a scam. They're speaking fees. Yeah she was wanted for talks, everyone takes speaking fees for these. It's how these figures make money. That doesn't make them grifters, lmao.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, that's a classic! You see, public speakers don't actually require 10 - 20K to make public appearances. They jack up the charges because they know their public reputation is worth trying to wring out every small venue who may want to hear them speak. This is a common tactic with other scam artists, like life insurance salesmen, private equity firms, even televangelists.

Look up Kenneth Copeland's public speaking fees.

https://trinityfi.org/paid-to-speak-the-speaking-honorarium-business/

>Speaking Fees

>How much do guest speakers cost? The Harvard Business Review provides “a rule of thumb for appropriate pricing”:

>$500 – $2,500 for new speakers

>$5,000 – $10,000 for a first-time author

>$10,000 – $20,000 for authors with several books

>$20,000 – $35,000 for authors of best sellers
You know what the best part is? Despite as jewish as Kenneth Copeland's public appearance fees are, he's STILL not as jewish as Anita Sarkeesian who charges 40K to show up at an event, and she's not even an author of a best seller. She just charges that because she knows brainless dweebs like you will defend the shit on her shoe if she steps in it. She's gutting her own supporters for more than a televangelist who you probably think is the ultimate grifter, and you think that's a good thing.

hahahahh
HAHAHAHAHA

>>725003179
>I've never met a woman with an opinion of her own
That's a good thing and the whole point. If they like you they think whatever you think.

>>725003053
The book publishing industry is a captured market, so jews can spread these types of books in the 'Romantasy' section.

Gatekeeping out anyone else (conservative authors) and manufacture consensus from reviews/awards/seminars/conventions that it's le heckin' kosher.

>>725003053
Yes. They openly discuss these on Tik Tok with their real names and faces out in the open.

>>725003258
If I wanted something that does whatever I want and worships me as a god, I'd get a dog.

>>725003252
>>725002961
>>725003040
anitadopes, how do we recover our faith in radical feminism after this? surely, there must be some way we can ignore this and cope.

>>725002684
What is there to say to these niggers? All their points are weak and bullshit?
One guy is pointing out that she didn't make a 12 video series like she promised and that makes it a scam. But like I said, she instead made fewer videos with more than double the total runtime the original series would have taken.
I dunno, if you go to kickstarter, and fun 12 10 minute shorts, and the project instead turns into 4 movie length features, have you been scammed? You still got more content than was promised by more than double, just not cut into 12 parts. If you legitimately think this constitutes "a scam" seek help.
>she stole footage!!!
She used lets play footage under fair use as B-roll, while she was making points about video games. This is COMPLETELY fucking normal, in all of youtube, and if it was stolen, she would have been DMCA'd. It was fair use. Neither is usage of such footage an indicator that she did not play a game. And saying shit like "but most of that content wasn't even fucking hers." like her videos are just 5 hours of stolen lets play footage without any commentary is laughably transparent bullshit.
>the fanart incident
Yeah, she and her team mistook a piece of fanart for official promotional art and put it in a collage. She apologized for this mistake and removed it. This too, would have fallen under fair use.

All their points are just fucking lies they made up in their heads. Imagined fucking crimes that never happened. They're describing willing donations as "people having their money stolen", Do you know how retarded this is? How is anyone to take this seriously? She once joked at CDPR "Lmao this looks bad I'm available for consultiation if you need, kek" and these fags interpret this as her trying to DEMAND EMPLOYMENT.

You're pointing at a couple monkeys at a zoo, flinging their own feces and demanding I debate their valid and true points. What fucking valid and true points? It's retarded monkeys throwing feces.

>>725003328
Cant fuck a dog (and be in Gods good graces) also dogs aren't as sexy as real women or give you babies.

>>725003352
>What is there to say to these niggers? All their points are weak and bullshit?
you could start by actually acknowledging some of them instead of just ignoring them.
>One guy is pointing out that she didn't make a 12 video series like she promised and that makes it a scam.
ok but if you promise a 12 part video series and you don't make one, that does mean you lied to your audience. But that's okay, she lies about a lot of things, like where she got the let's play footage for her videos.

>>725003352
Jesus, you're still going? This boot licking is fuckng pathetic.

>>724989940
i mean that sounds like guy romances as well
>super hot bombshell falls for dorky dude with no social skils

>>724997642
Hi, Anita. Kill yourself.
She specifically went on a free roam level, and did optional things to fit her narrative,.
It's like saying cops should restrict my movement because I might stab someone
We know what this grifter is truly saying and trying to do, you're just the devil's advocate

>>725003352
>She used lets play footage under fair use as B-roll,
There is no "Fair use" for just stealing the gameplay footage wholesale, she took footage other people made without permission. I like that you've not only proven that you're a simpering retard, you've also proven you don't know jack shit about how video games or let's plays work.

Let's plays are fair use because somebody is playing the game, and their methodology of playing it is derivative work.

Taking that footage, putting your name on it, and not crediting the original person who made it isn't "fair use". there's another word for that: Stealing. She stole footage and then sold it to you for 60K. and not only are you not mad about it. You think it's "weak and bullshit" to bring that up because you're clearly not a smart person.

>>725003352
>fair use
you don't know what this means. fair use isn't taking something without credit, you niggerbabbling retard.

>"MUH HECKIN HOUR LONG VIDEOS" did she give a cent to the makers of the hours of footage she stole? no?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YY5WGjZSc
read brown nigger, READ

This shit wouldn't have flown in China or Korea. Why are western gamers such spineless faggots?

>>724992893
kek

>>724997358
no one said that. go get raped by mahmood

>>725003352
>All their points are just fucking lies they made up in their heads.
No pretty sure everyone recognizes that she stole Let's play footage, grifts people for public appearances for as much as Televangelists do: >>725003252 and didn't deliver a 12 part video series like she promised, instead delivering the equivalent of 4 podcasts.

The only person in denial about that.. is you.

>You're pointing at a couple monkeys at a zoo, flinging their own feces and demanding I debate their valid and true points. What fucking valid and true points? It's retarded monkeys throwing feces.
Irony. Any more shit to throw, retarded monkey?

>defending anita in 2025
not even actual leftist defend that retard, this shit is bait

>>725003352
What's even your point, this minutae won't change that she's a feminist against the male gaze. Go eat a tide pod.

>>725003690
man topics like this are catnip to vaguely right leaning kids on 4chan, the finest engagement bait straight from langley

90% of women are normal and chill
the few female retards are ruining it for everyone else by being very loud online

>>724995574
They're so screwed its not even funny. No matter who wins women aren't going to have rights for another thousand years. It's either going to be
>islam
self explanatory, they ain't getting rights under a caliphate.
>anarchy
mass warring gangs, so they're going to be slaves or worse
>men of the west re-take their homes
men will remember what they did and never trust them again for several generations. We have the internet and advanced methods to keep records and books as well, so noones forgetting this shit they've done the last century, let alone that last 20-30 years.

No matter how you look at it, women are living in the last few decades of freedom. I don't see how they get to the next age with rights. They've made everyone other than corrupt politicians their enemy.

>>725003690
he's been doing this for hours lmao and writing literal mountains of cope about how every shady and illicit thing she does is OK because she did it. this ain't bait, we've found one of the last few true believers who got his wallet drained and never recovered

>>724998435
Well if you want to get technical then the first thing to point out would be it’s not even her gameplay it’s some random let’s player on YouTube’s footage and not representative of a normal play through. Meaning that it is in fact dishonest just from that alone.
Then there’s the way she frames it as “oh there’s SOME punishment but it’s not that big a deal”
If a body’s found the guards are alerted and you end up with a small army on your ass so NO you are not rewarded nor are you encouraged to do any of that. It’s like showing a pannen video of Mario 64 and claiming this is how everyone plays Mario 64.

>>725003769
>man topics like this are catnip to vaguely right leaning kids on 4chan, the finest engagement bait straight from langley
Not everything is a government psyop. He's probably a resetera faggot still coping about losing a significant chunk of change over her video series.

>>725003749
>bringing up the tide pod shit in 2025
youre either a tryhard zoomer trying to fit in, or a 35 year old manbaby who still thinks shit from 2018 is funny.

>>725003803
>We have the internet and advanced methods to keep records and books as well, so noones forgetting this shit they've done the last century,
shouldn't that work against communism then.
if women do lose their rights and become second class citizens again, an eventual resurgence in "progressive" thinking will appear and be tried again.

>>724995641
>Gee I wonder who paid for this ad
The same muslims who are invading their country.

>>725003395
It's a kickstarter video campaign. They change in scope. Her project started as a 12 10min videos, and by the end she delivered more than double the length. The point of promising a video series is the total length of material, not in how many parts it is cut. You could easily, more than easily, cut what she has delivered, into 28 parts. So to say that it was a scam, because the total number of videos is lower, but the overall time much longer, is laughable.
>>725003512
You don't need someones permission to use it under fair use. She also did not take it "wholesale" as this would imply she crammed someones whole fucking lets play in her video. She used parts of it as B-roll under fair use. I know you are retarded, because you seem to be under the delusion that lets play footage belongs to the player uploading it, too.
>Let's plays are fair use because somebody is playing the game
This is retarded and false
>She stole footage
Wrong, she correctly used it under fair use
>and then sold it to you for 60K
Wrong, she published it freely on youtube, under fair use.
You are retarded. Fully retarded.
>>725003549
And you also do not know how fair use works.
Hot tip for both you retards: google: "Do you need to credit sources for fair use", and report back to me with your findings.
You are both prime examples of retards, who have FEELINGS on a topic, and argue as if they take precedent over FACTS. But I'm sorry, regardless of how you FEEL fair use works, you can quite easily look it up and figure out that the FACT is that it does not work like you feel it should work. And the fucking irony that you're telling ME to read. The absolute state of you fags.

>>725003898
it is kind of funny that the generation who emptied out their meager life savings to donate to a shitty series of videos about Mario being a shitlord and didn't put it into Gold, or AI, or Bitcoin, yknow something that could gain them real value and escape the "Patriarchal society" they desperately want to wish into reality... are also the same generation who is now known for snacking on tide pods when they were in their late teens.

Reality writes the best comedy.

>>724992123
I remember seeing it before. What is the name of this video?

>>725004041
2girls1cup

>>725003995
yeah I'm not reading all that. lemme guess, it's OK when she does it?
>It's a kickstarter video campaign. They change in scope
she promised one thing and didn't deliver it. that's called lying. she also did it super-late, too. this four episodes of podcast-length videos took well over six years to make.

i find your desperation funny if it weren't so sad.

>>725003995
>You don't need someones permission to use it under fair use.
https://copyrightalliance.org/faqs/what-is-fair-use/
> But copyright law does establish four factors that must be considered in deciding whether a use constitutes a fair use. These factors are:

>The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for non-profit educational purposes;
>The nature of the copyrighted work;
>The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
>The effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

Stealing other people's let's play footage does not fall under any of these clauses because the work was made for profit, the amount was 'all video game footage in her videos', she did not credit the original creators of the let's plays, and the original creators have a license to the derivative use of their work.

Any questions or are you just going to make more pathetic groveling?

>>725004026
i mean gen x are the reason theres warning labels on batteries that tell you to avoid drinking the acid, i dont think zoom zooms eating tide pods is anything special.

>implying bitcoin or AI are worth anything
bait.

>>725004164
>implying bitcoin or AI are worth anything
bad news, if you put the amount some of these zoomies did into AI or Crypto, they would be worth literal millions.

instead they gave it to a woman who didn't even finish her fucking videos lmao
some people gave their college funds to this shit hahahaah

>>725003853
>Meaning that it is in fact dishonest just from that alone.
Why? How does her point that "the game allows you to do this" hinge on her having done this and recorded this herself? Actually, if you want to be a nitpicky faggot about it: The fact that she found someone ELSE doing it, rather than her doing it on purpose to make the game look extra bad, strengthens her argument that the game encourages this kind of behavior, as people who had no Idea that they would end up in a feminist video, show the exact behavior she is talking about, without being prompted to do so, by anone.
And again: The point is not that this is the optimal way to play hitman. She acknowledges that there is punishment for it, she just says that the punishment is minimal to nonexistence, and that you likely won't get a game over for it. Hell, if you do it in a room you know no guard will enter, the end result is a measily score reduction.
Her point is that this is a somewhat common possibility in video games, that rarely is heavily discouraged. This is a true fact. All you can do is agree or disagree with this being a bad thing. What you can not do, is claim that she lied about hitman, which she demonstrably did not.

>>725003995
>You don't need someones permission to use it under fair use. She also did not take it "wholesale" as this would imply she crammed someones whole fucking lets play in her video
She did do that in some cases, she took hours of other people's footage, sometimes of the same let's player, never telling or crediting that it was their footage.

No, you don't need to reproduce something wholesale for it to be a violation of their work.

But let's say it was fair use (it wasn't, but let's pretend we live in your retard world), it's still a scummy thing to take a community effort that people give for free and put your name and price tag on it. You're defending grifter behavior and you're too stupid to see it.

>This is retarded and false
Today, brainlet anon learns what a derivative work is.
>Wrong, she published it freely on youtube, under fair use.
She charged for it and you paid that price, dummy. "Freely on youtube", she took 60 grand for it, and another 100 grand after the fact.

You are retarded. Fully retarded.

>>724996207
>She discovered that men are overwhelmingly lonely, and struggle expressing their feelings. Which is exactly what feminists are already saying is a toxic masculinity trait.
Men would love to be able to talk about their feeling and stuff, but women forbid it, it's toxic feminity

This dogshit thread aside, Do women ever get tired of hating how men treat their own free time and hobbies?

>>725004318
>Do women ever get tired of hating
no
see how much they even hate each other?
they are extremely spiteful creatures. full of hate.

>>725003995
>Wrong, she correctly used it under fair use
>and then sold it to you for 60K
>Wrong, she published it freely on youtube, under fair use.
>You are retarded. Fully retarded.
damn I didn't know tropes vs women in gaming was a free work that didn't cost anyone any money at all.

are we going to reach tranny gaslighting levels to the point that it tries to tell us the Kickstarter never happened?

>>724999995
> Multiple studies have shown that overtly reductive depictions of women in media, do cause real world harm. Specially in young women, who then develop body issues, or feel like they are inadequate if their body does not measure up to standards shown in media.
Yeah, their own. You deceitful faggot. No woman is seeing Mai Shiranui or Chun Lee and comparing herself to them, she’s comparing herself to Taylor Swift, Beyonce, that other slut what’s her name Katy Perry or something. You get the point.
Women are affected by content in THEIR media not ours. A teen girl isn’t throwing up because Senran Kagura exists, she’s doing it because she isn’t as thin as the random slut in Teen Vogue magazine.

>>724997131
>the patriarchy is when men are treated liked subhumans

>>725004318
adam and eve is a fundamental life lesson. 1 fucking rule yet she still couldn't follow it then the dumbass dude took the plunge with her. Almost every civilization in the history of the world independently coming to similar conclusions about women wasn't an accident. If you start following the shit women say and try to push the world starts falling apart

>>724975250
After decades of studying female feminism i can tell you that women don't want to be free, they want a contract that let them do anything they want without any repercussion whatsoever.

>>725000716
But Anon, he’s not a woman, he doesn’t have periods

>>724995061
>It's being criticized, because quite often the male fantasy reduces women to trophies, sex objects
and female fantasies don’t do this to men?

>>725003995
>Wrong, she published it freely on youtube,
Uh anon?
T-this doesn't look very free. Haha

>This is retarded and false
>Many recent cases have centered on whether the use is transformative or iterative, with transformative use more likely to be considered fair. Transformative uses include such use of portions of a work in parodies or thumbnail images that reproduce a full–sized image but for a different purpose, such as a search engine.
Transformative works are fair use.Anita just took the footage for herself.

>Hot tip for both you retards: google: "Do you need to credit sources for fair use", and report back to me with your findings.
Hmm
https://guides.lndlibrary.org/copyright/fairuse
>Educational use does not automatically render a use fair; this is just one helpful factor. For example, note that many materials are created specifically for the educational market and fair use cannot be relied upon to make these works “free.”

Looks like Anita is up shit creek. That's okay, she admitted herself she violated people's rights on it and went to accredited them. Would she have done so if she wasn't caught? Probably not. She did make 150K off of someone else's work.

I hope the dysgenic freak feels satisfied with his job of defending a woman who doesn't know he exists on the internet.

>>724975250
Handsome rapists. Handsome and rich and chad-like rapist. You can see this for yourself by looking up all the shoujo and otome genre. 99% of them involve smut like that and even the milder ones have this "handsome and rich bad boy who madly jelly over her" love interest.

I like how the tranny is now trying to convince us Anita's video series was made completely for free, it was charitable work, really. We should be happy that it existed, ignore that she gouged people and didn't deliver what was promised.

He'll then pack up his wounded dilator, move on to the next thread, and say >>725002606
>Seen zero evidence of any of her feminism being a grift
and just pretend none of this ever happened.

>>725004684
Anyone who has been doing it for 15 years has to, right?

>>724975316
Where does this bizarro world ad come from?

whoo autosage. I can quit giving a shit.
>>725004841
same place as the guy who thinks Anita's videos were free.

>>725004841
The capital of bizarro world (Britain)

>>725004236
You do realize painting a false picture of a situation is lying regardles if the direct things you've said are technically true?
She's trying to paint a narrative of video games being instruments of males wanting to abuse females, handwaving anything that doesn't fit that as "it doesn't matter," and is asking for restrictions based on her strawman
Sounds like fucking lying to me

>>724975316
Literally none of the women are even hot wtf

>>725002606
>"WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE? I'll pretend I didn't see it when offered, tho"
>"ERM, I didn't EXACTLY say her opinions are my own even though I constantly run interference for it!"
>"How was I wrong? Even though you've already chewed it up and fed it to me like a baby bird 10 times!"
You are the slimiest fuck I've seen in a long time. Just because you act all hard to nail down doesn't mean people can't see you for what you are.

>>725004525
So then why are the people at the top doing exactly opposite of this "lesson of life"?

>>725003995

>fucking irony that you're telling ME to read. The absolute state of you fags.
I mean you did just try to tell us the video series was free (it wasn't) and you tried to tell us earlier her speaking fees were reasonable (they weren't) so I'm guessing you're projecting, as usual.

>>725004878
Source? And what made a once white colonist into this kind of pussyfooting country?

>>725004159
>Factor 1:
From the website:
>Transformative uses are those that add something new, with a further purpose or different character, and do not substitute for the original use of the work.
The original purpose of the work was to show a full playthrough of the game. Anitas taking of the footage was to use it to illustrate a point of video game feminism. Factor 1: Does not apply to anita.
Factor 2:
>The second factor considers the nature of the underlying work, specifically whether it is more creative or more factual. Use of a more creative or imaginative underlying work is less likely to support a claim of fair use, while use of a factual work would be more likely to support a fair use claim. This factor also looks at the publication status of the copyrighted work. When the copyrighted work is unpublished the use is less likely to be a fair use.
Anita took a publicly available work, to use for a factual work: critical analysis. This is also in Anitas favour.
Factor 3:
>The third factor considers the amount of the copyrighted work that was used compared to the copyrighted work as a whole.
Anita took small bits of footage, usually under a minute. This also speaks in anitas favour.
Factor 4:
The fourth factor not only considers whether the defendant’s activities may harm the current market, but also considers whether the use may cause any harm to potential markets that could be exploited by the copyright owner if the use were to become widespread.
Anitas use of a clip does not ursurp the market for "lets plays". Anita again.

This is all besides your misunderstanding of the law. First off:
>the amount was 'all video game footage in her videos'
No retard, the "amount" the law is speaking about is not "what amount of X type of footage in the takers work is stolen" it's How long is the original artists total work (aka how long is the entire lets play) 1/2

>>725005041
>what made a once white colonist into this kind of pussyfooting country?
woman were given the right to vote

>>725005062
He's still fucking going with the lying lmao

>>725005062
>>725004159

, vs how much did the second party take. If a lets play is 12 hours long and you take 2 minutes, it is more likely in your favour than if you take 6 hours, or even the full 12 hours.
>she did not credit the original creators of the let's plays
This does not play into fair use at all. You will see if you ctrl + f "credit" on the website YOU linked, you will not find a single instance of it mentioned. Giving credit has fuck and all to do with fair use. Giving credit is merely a courtesy, which in my opinion Anita SHOULD have given, but is not required to do.
>and the original creators have a license to the derivative use of their work.
This is also misunderstanding who the owner of the lets play footage is. Because spoiler alert: it is not the lets player. Fun fact: It likely is not the lets player.
Under current US copyright (and certainly under Japanese copyright, lmao ask any japanese lets player) copyright of a video game lets play belongs to the person having the rights to publish the video game, and media related to it. We currently exist in a system where virtually all western video game companies are fine with lets plays and streams of their games, because it is considered "good advertising" for many people to show themselves playing your game. HOWEVER: this does not mean that the creators of such lets play automatically have full rights of the footage they create.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160709194725/http://www.kstatecollegian.com/2013/04/18/fan-fiction-more-creative-than-most-people-think/
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/01/to-stream-or-not-to-stream-how-online-streaming-game-videos-exist-in-an-ip-world/
>Any questions or are you just going to make more pathetic groveling?
I'm just pointing out that you are dunning krugering pretty hard in regards to copyright law. You have a feeling how you think it should work, but you have zero actual understanding. None of what you said is true, and you are free to double check.

"when people show you who they are..."
we have statistics and clear data now showing the truth about most women, and people in general. don't try to twist yourself and the world to find excuses or reasons for their actions. it's not that complex.

>>725005098
I stopped reading his full posts by the third one. Let the tranny seethe into the abyss.

>>725001853
this is such a chatgpt reply

>>724992440
>all those jesters
i was proud to be a gamer that day

>>725004236
No it doesn’t because again it’s ONE SINGLE PERSON playing the super small, definitely not multi million selling series indie game HITMAN. If she found MULTIPLE people doing it and pointed that out that would be one thing. But one random guy probably fucking around after clearing the game to see what kind of Easter eggs or random shit had reactions lying around does not a sample make.

>>725005062
>The original purpose of the work was to show a full playthrough of the game. Anitas taking of the footage was to use it to illustrate a point of video game feminism
She took it as part of a commercial work. It was a for-profit endeavor of which she profited from.

>Anita took a publicly available work, to use for a factual work: critical analysis. This is also in Anitas favour.
This isn't isolated from the previous incident. She took this for a work that she charged money for. That changes this from being for a critical analysis to instead be for an attributed work. Even documentary creators have to credit their sources for this reason.


>Anitas use of a clip does not ursurp the market for "lets plays". Anita again.
It does when she didn't credit the original author.

>Anita took small bits of footage, usually under a minute. This also speaks in anitas favour.
Combined, she took over 40 minutes of footage from one Let's Player alone.

Reminder she only needs to fail one of these factors for it not to be fair use and so far you've failed all four. Source: I am a copyright lawyer.

Anyway it's pointless for you to say she didn't because she went back and added credits for the footage, effectively admitting she did it unfairly.

>No retard, the "amount" the law is speaking about is not "what amount of X type of footage in the takers work is stolen" it's How long is the original artists total work (aka how long is the entire lets play) 1/2
Don't bother posting the other part of it, it's just going to be you misunderstanding very basic and straightforward copyright law on the grounds that you worship the ground she stands on.

>>725005119
>>725005062
all of this groveling falls flat because you keep desperately trying to make us forget that she was charging money for this. she took someone's work, slapped her name on it, didn't give them credit, then got 150K for it.

oh but she's not a grifter lmao!!! fair use means you can upload entire movies as long as you split them up with your commentary. one let's player had almost an hour of his footage taken between all four videos.

>>725004402
>>725004583
>>725004941
Retardkuns. She was paid 60k to create a free video series on youtube.
She did not create a commercial product to be sold. Yes. there is a difference.
>>725004314
>She did do that in some cases, she took hours of other people's footage
Here's the tropes vs women in video games page: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn4ob_5_ttEaA_vc8F3fjzE62esf9yP61
Your claim is she took hours of other peoples footage. For this to matter in fair use, she must have used hours of a single lets play, to re-publish in her work. Show me where this is the case in these videos.
Taking small clips, from a thousand different videos, for individual illustrations of the facts that she is talking about, does not (for fair use purposes) counts as "taking hours of a work" the substentiality of copyrighted material in a fair use case, refers to how much of a total work is taken, not how much copyrighted material is in a work total.
She also did not put a price tag on it, she published it for free. She did not "charge for it" she charged to create a free video series. Again, this is a difference.

>>725005368
>Retardkuns. She was paid 60k to create a free video series on youtube.
then it wasn't free.
>it's totally free after you pay me 60K
also it was 150K, you're gaslighting so hard you don't even want to admit the actual original value.

glad this pathetic display of your life is almost over.

>>725005368
>She did not create a commercial product to be sold.
>She charged 60K for a product, big difference!!!
Anon this is as bafflingly retarded as your misunderstanding of basic copyright law.
If you give away pirated movies, but have a hat that coincidentally is a "donation", you're still legally charging for those movies. Do you think the donation is just "coincidental"?

Yeah I'm done, you're too stupid to even engage with.

>>725005368
>She was paid 60k to create a free video series on youtube
>paid 60k
> to create a free video series
U fuckin wut m8

>>725004751
One of the best examples that people like them are in a cult, and progressivism has become a religion. There's no adherence to evidence, or knowledge, only dogmatic belief to scripture. An entire religion of misguided zealots with no higher ability to learn or see the truth, only what was pressed upon them by school and propaganda.

>ITT
This can't be real in 2025
Is this shartykek larping? GCJ leak?

>>725005368
>Your claim is she took hours of other peoples footage.
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YY5WGjZSc
Questions?
> For this to matter in fair use, she must have used hours of a single lets play, to re-publish in her work.
Well she did. At least an hour for one let's player. Oh do you think you can start re-posting marvel movies because you split them up into pieces, now? You seem quite stupid so I wouldn't be shocked if you think that's fair use, too.

>>725005564
Don't worry the tranny will kill itself shortly and we won't have to see this level of retarded whiteknighting again.

>>725004934
People like him think if they just keep talking it means they've tricked everyone or it doesn't count. They don't get there are a lot of 3rd parties watching and noticing he's completely full of shit and was already proven wrong several times. Its the same way sjw's will deny evidence and use character attacks and think they've won when they've only proven to everyone else they're insane and can't argue against a point. Its one of the major reasons why the left is in full retreat and can only exist in aggressively moderated spaces anymore.

>>725004318
Women are narcissists, so of course they'll seethe any time men have outlets that aren't them.

>>725005650
>They don't get there are a lot of 3rd parties watching and noticing he's completely full of shit and was already proven wrong several times.
this lmao

>>725005317
No, she took it for a free video series. The fact that she was paid beforehand to create a free video series doesn't change the free video series to a commercial work. "Trops vs Women in video games" is not a series you can buy, for money.
>That changes this from being for a critical analysis to instead be for an attributed work.
It does in fact: not. You are creating a mish-mash of the first and second factor. Her work is a factual work, and no amount of "she got paid to create this factual work" somehow magically changes this into a non-factual, creative work. Like fuck me, every single documentary would be a non-factual work because they took money for it, you sperg.
And again: She does not need to credit who she takes footage from. I will wholeheartedly agree that she SHOULD have done that, because that's the common courtesy amongst media creators everywhere, and it was kinda shitty of her not to do it, but it does not factor into fair use. at all. Again: Feel free to look this up.
>It does when she didn't credit the original author.
No. This is just factually wrong, there is no basis for this. This is not how copyright law works, feel free to link me the law if I'm wrong. (I'm not). Again: If this was how it works, I could just stream Avengers: Endgame on my twitch and show: "Source: Disney+", to claim I was not ursurping the market, because I showed the source.
Showing a source does not factor into fair use, as evident by the fact that it is not mentioned in the four factors /pillars of fair use.
>Combined, she took over 40 minutes of footage from one Let's Player alone.
Show me, where it totals 40 minutes, and how long is that lets play in total?
I doubt she hits 40 minutes of the same lets play, that would be 11% of her total series be just this one lets play. But here's a cool fact: One pillar alone, does not mean it was not fair use
>Reminder she only needs to fail one of these factors for it not to be fair use
The opposite is true.

>>725004440
Unironically yes. I'm just saying men were off dying in wars, being forced into destitution, wage slavery, LITERAL slavery long before feminism was a real thing. It's not the feminists who started off calling you a fag for wanting to talk about feelings, it's not feminists that told you it's gay to have close friendships, it's not feminists who told you you need

>>725005317
>Don't bother posting the other part of it, it's just going to be you misunderstanding very basic and straightforward copyright law on the grounds that you worship the ground she stands on.
Also you:
>Reminder she only needs to fail one of these factors for it not to be fair use and so far you've failed all four. Source: I am a copyright lawyer.
Meanwhile copyright law:
>Although one factor or another may weigh more heavily in a fair use determination, each of the factors must be considered and no one factor alone can determine whether the use falls within the fair use exception.
Ironic.

>>725005785
>No, she took it for a free video series.
nta this shit again? what part of this is free >>725004583 ?

you may actually be so fucking stupid that you genuinely, 100%, actually believe you can sell pirated movies as long as you take 'donations' instead of sales. At least that seems to be what you're saying.

>>725005785
the thread will die soon but I just wanted to say, I've been reading your responses and I really appreciate how much of a blatant faggot you are, neck yourself for me tranny