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where are the hpal buffs???

i don't get why fags on /wowcg/ and leddit always have been a bunch of TBC and MoP shills when both expansions are absolutely dogshit to play compared to wrath and legion respectively

>>527157350
reddit loves legion doe

>>527157350
Anniversary is a third world shithole. Era is dead. Scataclysm failed and TBC was ass. Wrath was a desecration.

MoP is bringing people back and that's the enf classic. Whatever they shit out afterwards will be garbage also.

>>527146285
sod, tbc and turtle wow fixed this

>>527157867
the pipeline is real

>>527157350
The burning Crusade is absolutely soul unless you're a warrior tank or holy priest. They have the coolest rides, the coolest looking gear, it introduced blood elves and the dranei which were stupid as fuck at the time but now probably more appreciated than the blood elves are. I refuse to play MLP because the cata classic servers are for literal third world Mexicans who were too fucking poor to play WoW when they were children and now they're recapturing the light of lost experience. Every single Guild you try to be a part of will be filled with the worst pieces of shit degenerates you can possibly imagine. At least on sod everyone I play with is employed professionally. Most of them are even white.

>>527158773
>tbc is soul

>flying mounts
>the entire server afk in shattrath
>raid loging after you are done with your slop dailies
>if you are a dps the game it's dogshit unless you play hunter or warlock
>if you are a healer it's dogshit unless you are a resto shaman

>>527159378
as opposed to
>the entire server afk in org/IF
>raid logging the second you hit 60
>if you are not a warrior the game is dogshit
flying is a nothingburger unless you want to gank lowbies. you still have to level with a ground mount
you would bring at least 1 of each class and all hybrid specs were in demand to varying extent which is more than can be said about nilla
all 3 tanks are good while in nilla all 3 were dogshit
no world buffs is also a welcome change

a game is soulless(whatever that means) if i dislike it in a personal matter

>>526575832
Alright, where are those changes?

>>527160448
Even for ganking flying is a nothingburger, only people who can reliably fly away are druids with their instant flight form.

>>527160448
>raid logging the second you hit 60
you just exposed yourself as a dogshit dad player if you actually did this in a fresh vanilla server instead of farming devilsaurs/lotus for an entire month to afford your consumables until naxx and before start ranking for another 2 good months.

>>527161051
not an argument

>>527161138
>hmm that's not an argument! there's nothing to do in vanilla because i like to play that game the lazy and noob way!
shit no wonder you like T-BBC you absolute cuck

>>527161321
TBC is objectively better in every aspect. facts dont care about your feelings, projecting blacked addict

>>527161321
>T-BBC
>you absolute cuck
The irony is thick, you absolute pornbrained retard.

We need a new TBC gummy server

>>527161454
>>527161558
>y-you are projecting!
sure thing buddy

they dont call it the filtering crusade for nothing

>>527161576
>Gummy bans addons on his latest tbc server
>Months later Blizzard is doing the same on r*tail
Really makes you think

>>527161576
and what about a new Vanilla whitekidney server?

>>527161691
You're thinking about nigger dick and literally typed out TBBC, stupid cumbrain.

>>527162283
anyone with a brain not fryed by airhorns can see that combat addons are a massive problem

Are there any WoW youtubers left that still tell interesting/funny stories about their gaming adventures or is that meta just completely over since most of them trooned out and killed themselves/went to FFXIV?

>>527162580
TSM did much more damage to all aspects of the game

>"TBC prep" is just slowly leveling to 60 and buying gold from Chang

>>527162572
hey i'm not the one that literally typed "tbbc is objetively better in every aspect" pal. go back to /gif/ or something mate you are such a weirdo

>>527162425
Meanwhile in Light's Hope public discord:

>>527162905
You're literally the only person who mentioned the word T-BBC, outing yourself as a nigger worshipping coomer.

>>527162951
>WK
>irenicus
sovl i reaaally need a nu light's hope before 2030 with all of the iconic pserver guilds or i'm probably going to kms

>>527162893
sounds comfy T B H

>>527163127
ok weirdo i actually don't care if you like tbbc that much man. do what you want with your fucked up life jezz

>>527162893
whos even wasting time leveling when they will sell a boost

>>527163690
yeah but if you pay for an official blizz boost then your character gets such a terrible generic gray gear and if you try to do some dungeons with sweaties you will probably end in a video like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ZqSp1q3jg

Getting the itch to resub again but I know I'll regret it and probably only play for 2 days.

>>527163959
im not trash at the game so having shitty gear wont really matter to me for very long

>>527164102
I swear level 40 characters have better gear and more health than boosted 58s. I remember kicking people from dungeons for being boosted was pretty common in early TBC when everyone just wanted to powerlevel in dungeons with other people in naxx gear, which was so fucking good I was wearing most of my naxx BIS for the first 4 or 5 weeks of raiding. If you took a boosted tank your run instantly doomed.

But even if you're "good at the game," questing in Hellfire solo with that gear is a terrible experience because you will do no damage and have no hp. The questing greens will definitely help you get started, but it is a slog.

Tell me one reason gold bids should be banned. You can't.

>>527164563
The level 58 boosted gear was dog especially if you played a class where gear matters, like warrior.

>>527165028
>warrior in tbc

>>527165156
YEAH BUT ACTUALLY WARRIOR IS THE BEST DPS IN THE GAME IF YOU GET TWO 1% LEGENDARY DROPS FROM ILLIDAN

>>527165156
Warriors dominate in TBC regardless of you faggot private server brained trannies saying otherwise.

>>527165609
>arcane mage tier 5

ohhh yeah that's when it hits.

>>527165156
warrior is the white man's choice looking to push his limits. all the cowards(brown people) reroll to paladin, hunter or warlock to have the easiest experience of all time

>>527165557
>gear your fury warrior and they become the best spec in the game
Why wouldn't you do this? Every good guild is going to.

>>527165792
is this your final cope?

>>527165792
>reroll
I was always a warlock in vanilla. I wasn't a fotm reroller like many.
If I actually go play anniversary idk what I'd play this time though.

>>527165792
Ret is the White man's choice in 'nilla, thoughever.

>>527165921
calling it a cope doesnt make it any less true
>>527166050
>paladin
ywnbw, rajeesh

>>527164775
1 - It puts a price tag on everything in the game.
2 - It allows jeets, chinks and slavshits on welfare to bot gold because Blizzard takes a paycut from gold selling websites to allow them to operate
3 - It removes the need to farm consumables for raids because boomer paypigs just buy gold
4 - It turns raiding, which is the most social part of the game into a business for third worlders

Not that Scata or TBC would have been good without GDKPs, but this shit is only beneficial for subhumans on both ends of it.

Real white men play hunter with dual gathering professions

>>527166279
keep gbid
actually ban gold selling

there's no longer a problem

>>527166363
>actually ban gold selling
That requires hiring active GMs to patrol the servers which micropajeet actikike will NEVER EVER EVER DO
Banning GDKP is the only realistic solution

>>527166363
Might as well stitch the government to Communism, it totally works on paper.

Rolled a Fem Nelf Disc Priest on Firemaw.
>started with 0 gold
>leveled to 425 tailoring
>have the mats for up to 500
>will never do a GDKP in MoP
>will only raid 10 man

>sloppa
skipped

when is the pre-patch, this shit is hella boring atm, ngi 4real

>>527164775
I honestly don't care about gdkps one way or the other, but mage boosting has absolutely obliterated the amount of normal dungeon runs that's happening.

>>527169673
July 1st. AV spam for full Gladiator gear for 2 days then nothing to do again.

>>527169947
mage boosting and pvp gear both
>no lower level dungeon groups cause bosot
>no high level dungeon groups cause free pvp gear into MC/ZG pipeline
dungeons are DEAD

>>527170531
>>527169947
Dungeon finder killed dungeons btw

>>527170794
absolutely delusional
without dungeonfinder there would be even less people doing them

>>527171198
>automated group organizer that also brings you to the place and finds the tanks and healers for you
>less people
ok fellow mage booster

need a vun sus for mop STAT

Anyone know of GDKPs on dreamscythe horde? Any disc channels for them?

>1 filtered ID

>Beta realms are down
It's happening

>>527169673
pre-patch for what? so many dogshit version of classic these days I dont even keep track. is it scata-prepatch for doa pandaslop?

>>527157350
>wrath and legion
shocking, the wrathbabies and legionbabies continue to be the biggest dumbfucks that started this game

Any cici BVLAST today?

>>527171652
>is it scata-prepatch for doa pandaslop?
ye

>>527171429
mabe

>>527171867
>tbc bab can't bear the concept of someone trash talking their game for once

>Play on mankrik
>Increasingly seeing more spanish names

>>527172869
>2025
>he still hasn't learned one of the world's most uncomplicated languages by sheer osmosis

>Expecting me to learn gutter will speak created by conquered rape baby shit colored mutts who are too fucking stupid to develop an actual language

>>527173573
I dont want to be associated with smelly shitskins, they can all go to faerlina

Sod is officially dead. You can't even level professions off the AH anymore. Random Boe leveling items that would be valuable on a normal server or vendor trash at this point there's no point even trying to find a buyer

>>527174843
grim

>>527175007
I bet those numbers are two or three times better than what they actually are. I'm on a medium size server and it's not uncommon to see under City completely empty. You might see one at level character in a lvl zone

>>527175163
I'VE BECOME SO NUMB
I CAN'T FEEL YOU THERE

>it's another episode of nillers being uppity about classic+

>>527175163
>56k players at then end of the cycle
Pretty good, 'nillers will drop harder by AQ.

> it's another episode of subWhite conquered mestizo mongrelas trying to Gaslight people into playing their fag shit

>>527159378
>if I'm not top of the meters it's le dogshit
pathetic faggot

mount monies secured

>n-n-no u
they do this every time lol

there's no better time to be an antisetime than now

https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali
https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali
https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali
https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali

BWL PVMP SPEEDRUN GET IN HERE

>>527175272
I knew people who were raiding on 4 to 5 characters before I quit a month ago.
The leveling boost and rune vendor were a mistake.

>>527176774
there's no better time to be an antihistamine than now

>>527175163
>>527175359

https://streamable.com/uoffew

Sod sisters... not like this

>1 filtered ID

>>527176462
>someone paid x for it therefore that's what it's worth
>I will list mine 1copper under the others on there
I hate auction house addons so much. Just list it forwhaver

>>527175163

is smeedvun a 2004 vet?

I'm farming SE for, at least, one more month. After that I'll probably go back to pservers, but I'll keep my SoD happy memories forever. Could you say the same, 'nillers?

cat posters are being persecuted

>>527177890
next phase will *coughs up blood* wait we aren't getting another phase? *dies*

>>527178206
I quit in phase 3 so my SoD memories are even happier than yours.

>he woke up

Classic plus needs warmode and gay centaurs

>>527177779
>>someone paid x for it therefore that's what it's worth
That's not how people use the addon tho. People will list item relative to what its currently posted at, or how the price fluctates for a given time period.
>I will list mine 1copper under the others on there
That's not an AH addon problem, that's a just human psychology, and it would happen if addons were banned or not.

>tho

>TBC boosts on anniversary

just like I remembered it

>>527179586
jesus that ui

>>527180561

>>527179586

bro your UI is so fucking dogshit. Heres an example of a good UI. Simple, sleek, modern. My mage character

>>527181117
is this a 'vun aproved ui?

>>527181117
what's wrong with this ui exactly?

>>527181117

>>527181410

>>527181197
It's a retail mythic raiding UI designed to hide the majority of your screen and only display the 850 weakauras that the boss/dungeon needs to be played while also seeing the unending vomit of ground effects destroying your screen.

This retard has copy-pasted such a UI when he's pressing frostbolt and standing still the entire game. Mages are subhuman.

>retail out of nowhere

ORLANDO MOP BALAST

>>527176992
>speedrun
>he's healing it instead of pumping
Lmfaooooooooooo

>>527184305
Post your BWL World Record?

>>527184305
Been like that couple times already, he's playing warr after most likely

>>527184918
>post your special olympics trophy

Another world record for Sheen

Does he know we call him Sheen?

>we

>IP wiped already
another thread another ban evader

what is blud yapping about

https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali
https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali
https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali
https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali

WARRIOR PVMP GET IN HERE

>insta indirect reply
thanks for confirming retard lol
that post could've been to anyone but you took offense by it right away

>>527188814
>800 viewers
>new world record
/ourguy/ made it

>>527188814
>30 femhumie warrior with the exact same gear and haircut

>>527188814
>mythic+ but with 40 players
i thought 'nillers hated m+

>>527188814
SO IT HAPPENED AGAIN
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2484045433?t=4h30m10s

>>527182381
>it's bad because... it hides the majority of your screen
you ok lilbro?

>rsham is better than disc overall in mop because utility
>rsham will have like 3x more players probably
>ele mogs shadow

oh so NOW disney bloat is a good thing huh. interesting

>>527191593
uh oh

i was bored so i logged on my old 60 hc character that i haven't touched in months, decided to run a dungeon to get my bearings and i accidentally caused a wipe and got the healer killed
now i feel bad

>>527175163
>low population is now a bad thing again

>>527193791
Cryboomers twisting the narratives of things that work against them? goodness me

low population is only good when its not disney retoilet bloat ghblibi toilet aka vanilla
high population is only good when its not disney retoilet bloat ghblibi toilet aka vanilla

holy salad

>beta still down

>>527198503
If you look at the screen hard enough you might see a beta pop up!

are we going to have a wowcg group for challenge modes?

should I focus on leveling my human warlock on anni or continue leveling my draenei paladin on cata?

>>527199705
>>527199873
>unironically playing r*tail minus
kys

classicxisters, our response?

>>527200024
I think it's sad to screenshot your own post that got basically no replies just so you can repost it again.

>>527200024
i like leveling and taking my time in the open world :)

>>527200171
even if it is, hes right that classic nosedives after bwl

>check bis lists for TBC
>half of the specs I'm interested in force you to pvp
>check server discord
>no one looking for the class I'm leveling (hpal)
should I bite the bullet and level a priest instead? warrior is too expensive to gear in vanilla and every other dps is just dogshit or too contested like rogues

>>527200305
just use your realistic bis bro

>>527200260
Maybe so. Maybe so. The game isn't really at fault though, the community is. It is impossible to go back in time and remove all the knowledge people have of the game

>>527199537
Mariaqt?

>>527200352
I've decided to worry about it once TBC hits. my current concern is what to level til then. continue with pala, go with a priest or try to weasly my way into some desperate guild as a tank

>'nillers already coping with being too bad at the game to clear AQ40
You can't make this shit up.

>>527200658
nta but the community really did ruin classic

>>527200305
>should I bite the bullet and level a priest instead?
priest are even worse. literally resto shamans are the only healer fun to play in tbc it's so lame

>>527200773

>>527201016
>>527199537
bogged bitch

>>527199943
for your 'niller niggananigans I sentence you to another 6 years of playing the same game on repeat, for good behavior you may watch me play kung fu pandaria in july

>>527201008
I know, I'm probably rerolling one in TBC but there is still AQ and Naxx until then which is why I'm considering the above options in the meantime. priests are more fun now arent they?
>make a shaman now
cant be a draenei yet or I would've. I want to be alliance too this time around. are their attunement quests easier in vanilla?

>>527201545
>priests are more fun now arent they?
yeah you can actually press like 7-8 buttons instead of only spamming FoL rank 6 like pallies. especially in naxx and aq40

>classic era
>tbc era
>wrath era
>sod
>mop era
>classic plus
At one point we will have 6 versions of wow lol

>>527201909
cool. guess thats what I'm doing. it cant be as expensive to gear as fucking warrior. anything specific I should do besides rolling dwarf to make my life easier?

>>527202707
>anything specific I should do
try to get your 8/8 tier 2 as soon as possible it's your bis until naxx and you even have to use it in some fights like twin emps or saphiron. it's insane. also try to get your rank 14 mace if you have the time to do the grind it's slightly worse than c'thun mace but you don't have to compete against any paladins for it

>>527200658
i mean sure the community sucks but aq20/40 just suck cock in comparison to bwl

>>527202625
no way in hell are we getting more than vanilla era, I can't imagine blizzard willingly paying to keep up servers for each of those expansions. At most we'll just have the one era, MoP/repeating all expansions, anniversary following behind MoP, and SoD/classic+ when it comes out. not sure about the future of hardcore or future gimmick classic versions

>>527203634
i mean nobody gives a fuck about the boring crusade and classic era was alive only thanks to dad gamers doing RMT in gdkps and third worlders selling gold to live but WOTLK in ICC patch is by far the most popular version of wow. there's a reason why chudmane still has +10k pop every day for the past 15 years

>>527204102
tbc is an amazing expansion, the launch up until about 3-4 kara clears is godly. TBC/SSC suck because there is such a huge difficulty spike and it likely shits on the vibe/some of the people you played with up until that point. Tidewalker, vashj, and kt ruined tbc classic for me. BT is cool but too much trash and sunwell is good despite lame as fuck armor.

>>527204102
it's only popular because it's free

well bros i got to 30 on anniversary therefore i will be waiting till next fresh

>>527204682
prep for tbc, it's gonna pop off ong

>>527204102
>>527204427
it's free and it hasn't been shut down so people would rather play where the population is

>>527204739
isnt the basic gear from the first quests in hfp as good as aq shit or something

>>527204427
that's not true at all. not a single tbc pserver survived after 2 months and script wasn't a problem. also vanilla private servers died forever after 2019 classic came out. people LOVE to raid ICC and gear up easy with fos and pos

why does this thread even exist its the same retarded circular arguments every day
genuinely one of the worst threads on 4chan

>>527204952
you really think paymane thirdies are gonna move and leave their character behind and give $15 a month to blizzard for wrath era? lmfao no. also ICC flopped hard in classic you can see the numbers

>>527204927
yes but doing the first quests in vanilla greens will fuck you up like no tomorrow

>>527205296
>>527204927
it sucks but its doable, i did it on original tbc. if you are playing warrior (LOL) you should definitely get gear though

>>527204927
pvmper groups will be spamming ramparts and you need full t3 for that

>>527205412
I've done it as a shaman, priest, and rogue. It sucked big time.

>>527205214
not exactly paymane thirdies but it's a fact that the patch is just the most popular version of the game it's not even a discussion
>also ICC flopped hard in classic
yeah no shit sherlok every single wotlk fresh server flops because the only decent part of the expansion is ICC and RS but 90% of the people quit after they are forced to farm naxx25 and toc for months

>>527205214
>ICC flopped hard in classic
Because blizzturd paypigs can't handle a modicum of challenge, so most of them quit in Ulduar.

>>527205503
how am i supposed to get that as a belf pally and be an actual tank

>>526575832
Alright, where are those changes? You fucking liars

>>527205529
>priest
one of the least gear dependent classes brother

mop is gonna pop off for the simple fact that it wont have to compete with other versions of wow

>>527207717
it's slop tho

The novelty of the pvp server has worn off on me.

>>527208784
what happened sis?

>>527208784
you mean it didn't wear off after the first day of being corpse camped by a failed school shooter?

>>527208784
*ganks u*

HOLY FUCK
THEY CHANGED ETERNAL FLAME TO PRE 5.4 THE MADMEN ACTUALLY DID IT

>>527208784
PvP servers were fun only 20 years ago and only during the first two or three months.

I saw some level 81 horde priest trying to level on Benediction.

2 more years Legion bros

>>527203634
theyve already said sod will be like era servers

>all these people who weren't around for TBCC thinking TBC will actually be good this time with Anni's population
The only good thing is no GDKP. Unfortunately removing it has not also removed the cancer players it attracts.

>>527210050
it was good last time, though

>>527209997
Retail is literally live right now.

hpal bros we're so back

>>527208784
Open world pvp is fun but It's only fun on your own terms. I wish instead of making servers PvP, they'd take inspiration from games like osrs and Albion and introduce a few max level, pvp only zones instead, with some daily quests and increased resource spawn rates. Maybe an event that happens every few hours.

My fondest memories of SoD are definitely from P2 fishing and pvping in STV. It's a good level bracket for all sort of stuff. But it wasn't fun to engage in pvp before then, while questing, because it felt like more of a distraction rather than a part of it.

>>527201016
Sex

>>527207717
>you can only play one (1) version of wow at a time
love this meme

>>527210050
i wanna have sex with this goat

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/mists-of-pandaria-classic-development-notes-updated-june-12/2097329/10

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/mists-of-pandaria-classic-development-notes-updated-june-12/2097329/10

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/mists-of-pandaria-classic-development-notes-updated-june-12/2097329/10

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/mists-of-pandaria-classic-development-notes-updated-june-12/2097329/10

You can't fool me I got a personal discord with a wowhead webhook

Does MoP actually improve on combat compared to Cataclysm? It feels pretty shit right now and I don't see how they could make a drastic difference in one expansion

>>527212186
Hpal won

>>527212186
>run the same boring slog dungeons to level up
>run them to gear up for lfr
>run them to get valor for upgrades
>have to run them instead of lfr now too
it wouldn't be so bad if the mop dungeons werent the worst one in existence

Divine Storm, Crusader Strike, Judgment, Hammer of the Righteous, Hammer of Wrath, and Exorcism have all had their damage raised by 10%.
Templar’s Verdict damage raised by 20%.

RET CHADS

>Healing Rain healing lowered by 25%.

>>527212186
>rpally buff
okay maybe i will play this and gank ppl

>>527212554
is this turtle or epoch? or some other funserver?

>>527212186
>discipline priest literally murdered
Guess I'll go back to pservers.

>>527212554
fatgrend is def playing mop lol based fatso

>>527212186
holy shit resto shamans got executed

>>527212186
>tier list slop content creators right now

>>527212186
So Mop is now the pally expansion lol?

why the fuck are they class balancing a previous EXPANSION?

>>527213202
its a welcome addition for them. now they can publish a second video

THE WHITE MAN MARCHES ON

Now that paladins are Mop giga Chads, what is the bis race?

>>527212186
>SoD devs moved to MoP
>first thing they do is buffing the pinkies
You can't make this shit up.

We're back

>adding WoD changes to MoP
You know what this means right?

>>527213948
Adding gay centaurs?

>>527213771
>moved on
It's one team lol

https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/lu47fchr1GwlqMWL7ZJhOw/
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/523041871/#523043552
yo why are you posting in /wowg/ lil bro?

i was planning on playing bear druid do you guys think thats going to be good in mop

>>527213948
>retoiletinzing MoP
Damn, the furries got MoP+ before us 'nillers get our deserver Retail-, it's not fair!

>>527214254
UH OH

>>527212186
Wait they buffed warlocks? No way that's definitive.

>>527212186
Honestly it's good to see they care about mop and are putting some effort into it unlike with cata

>>527214768
Caca has always been a filler xpac

>>527214254
LOL

Fury
Crazed Berserker auto attack damage increase has been raised to 15% (was 10%). New
Crazed Berserker offhand damage increase has been raised to 30% (was 25%). New
The Duration of Berserker Rage and Enrage have been raised by 33%, to 8 seconds (was 6). New

I think warrior will play smoother with the new 8 seconds of enrage

>>527212186
the shaman and priest shitter in my guild are fuming right now

Cosst is 50, and there's no conversion cost for BoA satchels.

>>527215957
kinda poggers ngi

>>527214254
Grim

Give us combo points on the player, rather than forcing us to use redirect. Cmon niggas, you know you want to do it

>>527216380
Yeah, i'm positively surprised as well

Aggrend cooked, MoP will be unfiltered kino

how are we feeling about LFR gear coming from hard mode dungeons instead of easy mode raids

>>527217476
good, lfr was garbage

>healing rain -25% healing
>conductivity max length for healing rain is 30 seconds
so they giga nerfed my literal favorite part of playing a resto shaman in MoP, cool

>all 3 specs are S tier now

>>527217476
LFR with retards sounds way more fun than running the very same dungeons yet again.
>but they added raid memechanics to bosses
Still boring and samey.

>>527217476
Wotlk had Alpha/beta/gamma
Cata had protocol: inferno & twilight
This isn't something new. Also it's much better that we're able to spam heroic+ and gear super fast (even transfer currency to alts), rather than deal with absolute retards in LFR, and maybe if you're lucky get a weekly gear drop.

tfw never again get to experience the kino of durumu instantly wiping out half the raid with the beam

>>527212186
pserf bros ... our tier lists ....

Thank God I won't have to level a shaman now

I'm thinking rogue for tbc. will there be a 58 boost like last time?

>>527219398
Obviously Grimlic, you're fucking retarded if you think Blizzard would give up that free money. There will be tokens and boosts.

>1 filtered IP

>buffing paladin so retards finally play mop
a brilliant move, i must say

You can get banned for telling someone to "go play retail" when they complain.
But there is no punishment for telling someone to "go play era" when classic players complain.
That should tell you all you need to know.

>>527220538
telling someone to "go play r*tail" is the equivalent of telling someone to go eat a big fat turd

ICC and Cata died for SoD

>>527221661
Nothing of value was lost

Everyone is seething at paladins (again)

>+35 year old men seething at imaginary classes in an old solved video game
couldn't be me t b q h

Don't you have your own cum to eat, toilet?

>>527212186
What does 5.4 revert mean? These aff buffs look fucking ridiculous

>>527223332
what do you mean bro? the strongest spec getting a 50% damage buff is balanced

>>527223332
Revert to the pre 5.4 state

>>527223332
>>527223432
>>527223541
So basically they're making nu-mop, that has classes at various points of balance during mops lifetime.

That is honestly based, as long as they actually balance it. Spriest needs an additional raid buff because it's just straight up inferior to ele in every single way.

palachuds how do you see these changes and think hpal is anything but the 2nd worst healer still? Genuinely explain yourself

>>527223873
Paladins players don't have enough IQ to actually understand the changes, they just react to the numbers going up and down.
>dildo of light healing increased by 3%
>"we're SO back palabros!"
>dildo of light healing decreased by 1.5%
>"it's over palabros :("

>>527223873
Did you miss disc and sham getting kneecapped lil bro?

>>527222863
that insta indirect seethe reply tho

The mistweaver buffs are kind of gross, thank God they bring 0 utility to raids

>>527224313
rsham nerf isnt that big of a deal, and i dont remember mop well enough to remember if discs nerf will matter really, because disc is going to be dpsing 100% of the time it can anyways

It's going to be:
Rsham > Rdruid > Disc => Monk > Hpal

Did you even read the changes? All u got was the ability to holy power dump the tank better.

>>527224895
I will blanket the entire raid with 1 holy power eternal flame and absorb all the damage and you will seethe just like pre Soo mop

>>527225204
based 9 man raider (one dad had wife aggro)

>>527225204
Is this a shitpost or do you actually think this is possible.

>>527224313
>Kneecapped
Don't be a fucking histrionic faggot. Disc went from S+ to S tier, thats barely scrape on the knee.

>and a chance at unreleased Mounts from the original Mists of Pandaria expansion
Huh?

>>527225574
>We want the r*toilet audience

>>527225574
some dogshit recolor prob

>>527225574
>>527225694
The remix mounts

>retail out of nowhere
aw man

>>527225952
I mean the mounts are recolors from the retail event

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-mists-of-pandaria-class-changes/2117387
Disc and shaman shitters crying lmao

They will probably revert most of the nerfs/buffs by the time SoO hits so at least we get to enjoy 2 decent tiers

>>527221661
nice, sod is actually fun unlike those two things

>>527213489
>paladin
>white
ok raj

What the fuck is this convoluted and timegated shit? They can't just fucking copy twilight protocol?

You can gear up you're alt with your main lol GDKP chads winning bigly

I need to know what sneedyjaye thinks of the changes before I give my opinion

'vun status? back or nah?

>>527212186
This pretty much confirms that wod isn't happening

>>527228786
>MoP era
sounds kino

>>527228786
what makes you say that

What's wrong with holy in TBC?

>>527212186
And just like that fistweaver became the best healer in the game

>>527231308
nothing, nerds just sperg if youre not a shaman
>>527232095
already was

didn't they turn Gamon into a boss for siege of orgrimmar or something like that? bwahahaha, i love that in-your-face type of silliness they went with

>>527225678
I don't think so, it's probably some of the ones they addded for MoP remix. I doubt many retail players will join for those.

>>527232583
Nah, garrosh was gonna execute him but you save him and he joins you in the gen. Nazgrim fight

The fact that we can buy lfr gear from the vendor will make challenge modes are breeze for non raiding toons

>>527235719
>waiting 40 minutes to still do less damage than the tank

>>527235719
>priest is the healer
lel of course the retcucks arent healing

>>527235742
wtf does lfr gear have to do with challenge modes?

>>527236254
Sockets

>>527235719
This is quite literally the leveling experience on Anni right now. It's nothing but Warriors and Paladins that just want to dps. Good luck trying to get an SM run together that doesn't have 4 fucking Ret Paladins in it

dat nigga sneedvun has been on my mind no cap

>get invited to some casual leveling guild with a small roster of 60's
>not in a guild so why not
>hit prime pre-raid bis farming levels
>guild wants me to run all the dungeons with them to gear up
>every single time there's like 2-3 ret paladins that they insist on bringing and sharing prebis with like hoj/sgc
the fuck do i do, just quit? its impossible to get groups going now that aren't just warriors and rogues (im a warr) but i'm tanking everything and expected to carry and raid prep some ret paladin meme speccers

>>527236392
99% of all posts in LFG channel is basically boosters as well, shit's fucking dire.

>>527237576
Either rank for gear or spam as many zg/aq20 as you can handle. Farming prebis this late is a huge waste of time.

>men will choose to play as this

>>527239951
PLAP PLAP PLAP

>>527239093
>lfg channel
bro your dungeon finder?? I just hit 60 and didn't use lfg once but ran every dungeon multiple times

aggrend cooked
mop is saved

Who let blud cook

>>527241460
this is just a bot right? How are you posting litteraly 24/7

>>527239951
Finna goon

Uldum feels like an ffxiv zone with all these cutscenes literally wtf were they thinking?

>>527245031
>shitting on best zone in scata
shame on you, Indiana Jones KINO is sick and you might as well uninstall after it

>>527245031

>>527245113
>filled with unskippable cutscenes and bad quests
>best zone in caca
grim!

>>527245209
Well it's reflective of the overall quality of the expansion my man, next you'll say you didn't enjoy CSI miami in westfall?!?

>>527245692
I mean most of the zones in Cata are good

>>527245797
Not really, hyjal and vashir are good and uldum I think is ok (too many cutscenes etc but the zone is cool) rest is kinda garbo imo, I barely even remember doing them honestly

>>527246057
Whatever you say sis. I just wanted to express my disdain for Uldum in particular. I had done loremaster on retail before classic was even wiled into existence so it's not like I didn't do this zone before, but leveling a new toon through it now on Cata feels like walking through a pool of mud. Indiana Jones kino my ass.

>>527212186
Disc Priest bros what did we do to deserve this?

where my shadowlands classic enjoyers @? our time will come

>see a paladin named "battleborn"
>whisper him "hey man cool name but shouldn't it be "healerborn" instead?"
he was not happy

>>527251562
could've been randy pitchford himself, dude looks like a paladin player with the iconic toilet photo of his

>>527236392
99% of paladin players are truly worthless dirt. it doesn't even occur to them that they could heal dungeons perfectly well by just keeping some pieces of +int gear in their bags

>disc dead
>holy absolute garbage
>shadow below garbage even with buffs

Priest bros, what are we rerolling?

>>527212186
>Pink tank buffed (3rd best tank, btw)
>Orange tank buffed (given a pity revert)
>Brown tank not buffed (by far and a way the most dogshit tank)

What do we think of them fucking around with the pve class balances? At least finely the understand that it's fucking stupid to try and balance both pve and pvp at the same time.

DK CHANGES???? THERE'S STILL NO REASON TO PAY FROST WHEN UNHOLY DOES COMPARABLE ST AND WAY BETTER CLEAVE!

>>527265659
Why would they waste time balancing pvp when nobody cares about it? Even removing arena and BGs would be a net positive for the game

>>527266214
The same reason they overbuffed meme specs with fucking WoD changes, but left Survival, Unholy and Warlocks untouched - they have no idea what they're doing.

>>527266214
But think of the washed retailers selling boosts in mop .... what's gonna happen to them?

>av weekend and gf is working b2b 12 hour shifts
>I'm already honour capped from faking during 'work'
>will only be r11
I could've made it if it was better prepaid but now it'll never happen

Hpal still needs more buffs ...

>>527266812
where can i sub your blog lilbro?

>>527267457
I got a buff for you right here *unzips*

>>527268082
you just did my man

will tbc be dead or is it finna be lit

Tbc has to compete with throne of thunder ... it's not looking good lil bro

>>527268521
Nigger.

>>527268521
I do not understand what this finna means. Please explain it like a proper gentleman would

female tauren shaman healing your dungeons

>bought gold
>get half
>other half doesn't turn up
>report it on the gold selling site
>seller uploads footage of him sending both halves
the fuck? how is it possible that i get one and not the other. was it intercepted by blizzard or some spooky shit?

>>527270006
retard tax

>>527270148
serious answers ONLY please

>>527270006
thank you saaar come again

>>527270006
I don't think it's even worth scamming for them and getting blacklisted from the gold selling site. Are you sure it's just not arrived? Sometimes it says I have mail but nothings there straight away

>>527270006

>>527270735
it's been like a day and it hasn't come. really fucking weird
i got the second half according to the clips he uploaded as proof to g2g, but not the half he sent first

>he buyed?
>scam him

>>527270989
>g2g
oh no no no
enjoy having your credit card info stolen

>>527270974
>>527271127
i mean it's not a big deal, i payed like 4 usd for 1k gold lol. if i don't get it i'll live, but i was more curious about why it wouldn't arrive if there's video proof
>>527271529
nah i've bought shit off there for years, never had my cc info compromised

>>527271529
>hello anon this is your bank, we saw an unusual transaction from indonesia and blocked it for you, you'll have a new card in 3 business days
Retard

reminder that if you're not playing HCSF then everyone just assumes you're a goldbuyer

>>527271814
G2G makes millions, maybe billions selling currently for basically every game. They don't need to scam you stupid mong

>>527272056
but it's true. 99% of people I ran into who weren't ssf were duel fiery weapon engi goggle trannys. No idea why youd even play HC that way, low iq activity

>hc

We MoP now, anni is donzo

>>527212186
imagine if they put half this effort into scata

>>527272709
you're such a lonely loser, very sad to see

They're doing what I felt like they should've done from the start, mimicking the class balance of the each patch. The current "the last patch balance and that's final" paradigm has come to an end.
Perhaps we've finally hit the point in the game system where the developers feel that they're able to pull of these changes, maybe they really like Mists of Pandaria as they seem to have favorites, or perhaps Blizzard feels that the mists of pandaria has a chance to make it big so it warrants investment.
Also the militant, loud but influental "no chances" grognards are already in their containment zone in era or private servers.
I just think it probably wouldn't have been that much of a hassle to put some sort of aura buff such as -10% damage to mortal strike and come next patch set the aura to +-0% damage to mortal strike.

Also interesting is to note the completely different approach to balancing the game between the Aggrend, Ghostcrawler and Ion Hazzikostas.
Ghostcrawler played holy priest, and holy priest sucked as long as he was in charge. Same with Ion, he played restoration shaman and the rshaman was always the punching bag
until he retired from raiding and they got a massive overhaul in the dragonflight.
But Aggrend has no such qualms. He plays retribution paladin and he will buff his class and spec.

what is it about paladins that just attracts the biggest fucking morons

>>527274828
even as kids in 2006 me and my buddies used to laugh about how retarded ret paladins were (before we even knew about dps meters) and how we kited them about. Some things never change. The playstyle is so boring and the class fantasy so cringe that only aboslute cretins play it

>>527275527
how is the class fantasy cringe?

>enter thread
>shitskin seething about paladins again

>>527274828
third worlders or brown people in general trying to larp as crusaders

>>527276595
J won't like this one

why wouldn't you play a paladin in Mop?

>>527277558
is there really time when we are least expecting it if you are online 24 hours per day?

wath is blud yappign about

>all MNK specs will be S tier

>>527278576
>No goys, we don't care about selling boosts, we care about making the new class really good for people!

>>527278876
sounds like a win-win situation

I'm playing classic vanilla for the first time, WoW too for that matter and it's alright. I've really enjoyed how it leads you into the world and gives your character a place in it rather than immediately shoving you into some world saving quest. I also like how I'm actually saving up and working for gear while I'm leveling, I like that more compared to getting handed everything for free like in SWTOR or nearly for free in FFXIV. Silverpine does make me wonder why we don't live literally anywhere else though. Even a desert would be better than this shithole.

>try cata after leveling to 60 on anni
>it's what I consider retail
>mop is clearly going to be worse
anyone excited for mop is a retard lmao

>>527277805
am i? i have like 5 posts out of 377 my dood

>>527276024
Doesn't fit in WoW, at least anything past WotLK when having an anti undead specialist is handy, and even then they're extremely preachy and annoying. Kind of like the Jedi in star wars
nu-Warcraft also lacks the grit and darkness of say Diablo 2 where a holy champion makes a lot more sense. In WoW they kind of just play second fiddle to other classes like Warrior

>>527280446
I came to the conclusion that anyone excited for mop is a boost selling shitskin. VVHITE MEN are playing Anni preppin for TBC

>>527281286
100%. Everyone knows wow after wotlk is shit apart from the mentally damaged who can't stop playing wow because they'd have to face reality. Cata + is literally retail and always has been

>>527281286
white men who wanted to play tbc are already playing it on warmane or stormforge. only certified shitskins (yes, i said it) who aren't good enough to run mop gdkps are """"""prepping"""""" for classic tbc

>>527280446
>What i consider retail
lol

>>527280446
>dual spec
>convenience QoL changes
>thridies selling various "services" left and right
Anni is literally retail.

>>527280446
And I consider tranilla garbage for normalfaggots who can't appreciate peak Metzenkino, now what?

>>527251562
why are they always so insecure

about to play classic for the first time (haven't really WoW in general) is there a "wrong" class to pick? Will rogue give me the true experience? Or should I play a magic mancer?

warlocks won again

>>527259843
something something revenge for vanilla
>>527283093
2019 already vanilla had 2 of those 3

>>527285532
>2019
>vanilla
2019 is "classic" not vanilla. And yes, it was basically retail.

post youre hopes, desires and wishlists for sod two

>>527285493
>tattoos

>>527239093
Even on the official dungeon finder you will find mage boosters advertising. Atleast on EU (both pvp and pve realm)

>>527236392
what compels a man to play ret in vanilla?

Kino mountie

How come the WoW retail and WoW classic generals don't link to each other despite being so related?
>>527285959
Would you prefer more organic decals?

>>527286552
theyre completely different games

>/wowcg/ (World of Warcraft Classic General)
>everybody is talking about mop, cata and sod (retail lite)
it's joever

>>527285676
>2019 was retail
We're reaching levels of jaded that weren't possible before

>>527286954
too busy preppin for tbc

>>527286954
>Everybody is talking about classic wow
Your point being?

>>527287007
1.12 is already far away from "le spirit of banilla" and "le bision of le devs", you just like retail with worse graphics.

The classic rereleases always should have had further class balancing.
Only private server rat boomers will disagree.

>>527287259
Agreed, they should do class balance for anni. Maybe then it won't be so shit.

>>527287157
>this is actually a classic expansion ok chud?

https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/news/these-previously-unreleased-mounts-will-finally-become-available-in-mists-of-377243
Adding Stormcrow mount would be cool btw
>>527286303
chad mountie

>>527283465
I would rather be a normie who plays anni than a troon who plays retail wow and cares about wow lore, just lmao

>>527286935
/tesg/ links /esog/

>>527287532
No one cares lol

total normalfaggot death

if you can't get mageboosted to 60 and then afk in AV it's not classic
simple as

the amount of esl rats who go ballistic when you pvp in AV is hilarious. I've had 4 thanks for reporting messages today already. Why do they play a video game like Excel

>warlords of draenor classic will eventually be a thing

lmfao imagine having vtuber gifs saved on your pc, what a pathetic cuck

>knowing what a "vtuber" is
grimesque

I love how every time a new mount or pet for classic is revealed, retailfags start reeeing that it needs to be added to retail too

>>527287170
>>527287007

>>527287962
>not dating a vtuber

>subscription cancelled
that's it i guess. good luck if you still have fun in whatever version you are playing

>>527288278
this never happens

>>527288278
collecting is the retail troons favorite past time. Nothing like having a shit life so you need to 'achieve' (ticking a box) in a video game so you don't feel so useless

>>527289952
Hmmm I must've imagined those groups running Strath and ZG every day for the mounties back in original vanilla and 2020

It's over

>>527290685
but Mop is poppin off soon

>>527291003
is it tho?

>>527290685
¿Qué pasó, hermana?

>he woke up
Kurwaaaaa

ourguy orlando is excited about the changes to mop

https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/bvZscve0Qe5l1gDI3_TpbA/
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/524972274/#524984635
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/524302410/#524308365
Hey what's going on here? why is he posting in retail general?

>>527291143
ye

>>527292243
uh oh

MOPc finna be the most alt friendly expansion to date on capital G.

>>527292243
Will the failed male explain this one?

>>527290094
those players are no doubt all parse troon retailers. Zg mounts are cool though, people don't collect them and not use em

>>527292935
To be fair the changes for alts almost makes me want to try it. Maybe if they merge servers like Anni.

>>527293015
>a classic player playing classic makes them a retail player
truly a fascinating concept

https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/news/these-previously-unreleased-mounts-will-finally-become-available-in-mists-of-377243
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/news/these-previously-unreleased-mounts-will-finally-become-available-in-mists-of-377243
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/news/these-previously-unreleased-mounts-will-finally-become-available-in-mists-of-377243
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/news/these-previously-unreleased-mounts-will-finally-become-available-in-mists-of-377243

MOP fucking WONNED

>>527293595
cool mounties

>>527293678
Now we just need the Stormcrow and MoP+ would be the best thing ever.

>>527293595
We're yiffing good, Pandabros.

>>527289952
>>527290094
Even back in og vanilla and tbc people kept running Strat over and over purely for the mount.

>>527293163
>2006-2012 basically no one was concerned with 'parsing'
>those that kept playing the game (retail) became parsers and box tickers
>they bring that behavior back with them
not a hard concept lil bro

>>527294227
>I'm still mentally 14 at 40
Embarrassing.

>>527293595
Retail players already malding on forums from this development.

>>527294679
>everyone that i hate are retail players
Refer to >>527294679

>>527294723
I mean, they're free to come join us. At the end of the journey we will probably (definitely) be off-ramped to retail anyway. Might as well get all the retail unobtanium you can :p

remember hc? lmao

>rsham heavily nerfed
>still the best healer

yup, remember sod tho?

>>527295170
Happens all the time, WoW players don't understand the concept of "balance".

>>527295021
Still raiding on hc, glad shitters like you are staying away.

>>527295431
>"hard" core
haha you funny man, don't let others notice how blizzard has rolled back deaths twice because of streamers

>>527295021
Don't remind me, bunch of mazed one button rats. They can't handle real raids like MOP.

>>527295557
once for ddos yea

>>527295701
>once
oh man you funny guy

>>527295745
How can AI even compete?

>>527295557
Its OK when streamers get privileged treatment.

>>527295748
thanks bro

HC is for losers who follow streamers around like lost puppies, sad people ngi.

>>527295995
So don't play on the subhuman streamer server...? We had this argument back in classic 2019 too when they all went on designated streamer realms

>>527295745
>drawn this year

Grim.

>>527296285
>there's only 1 HC server
you're such a fool lmfao

Were you a bad enough dude to have this guys art as the wallpaper on you Nokia?

>>527294679
>forgetting how to to have fun is being grown up
I'm having fun turtling AV and racking up HKs. You're seething because you need that HWL +50dps to parse 98 not 96. We're both paying to play a video game, who's the idiot?

>>527296847
>you're not allowed to have fun by parsing and collecting things, only I'm allowed ot have fun by watching paint dry in AV
you're not very bright are you

why the actual fuck did they take away balance druids spell dmg debuff?

so is mop 'vun approved or nah?

>>527297414
mabe mabe

>affliction got buffed
I was really looking forward to finally playing the good destro but I guess I get to suffer instead
Honestly whats the verdict now with these changes?

>>527298903
Changes are temporary to buff the "bad" specs during early content. They'll "nerf" (see: still top damage, lol) affli later.

>class balance with every patch
welcome to r*tail junior lmfao Anni won TBC won

wotlk+ was always retail.

Is there a point in having "classic" servers if it's filled with modern convenience options, add-on support and a multitude of changes? I feel like they're missing the point entirely

>cried the cryboomer as he buys his dual spec feature straight outta retail

>>527299456
Era doesn't have any of those
you're more than welcome to stay in those if you want classic with none of those

They should buff demo so I can be the demon man with the demon plan

>>527299624
It has all of those though, do you even play the game? Only way you can play "classic" is by playing a private or something. Sucks really

gay men posting cats

>>527299970
You're a low test fag.

>>527299970

>>527299970
it's a contest with the filter homo to see who can dodge bans more that day, I'm not sure which one of the two is leading right now but it's a very interesting contest at the mental asylum for sure

>>527299914
post dual spec in classic era

>>527300735
Goalpost moved

Youtubers and streamers are going to have a field day making a dozen more videos about the class changes coming.
The grift really never ends.

>>527300796
>i hate these major convenience changes
>"era doesn't have those"
>YES THEY DO
>"ok prove it"
>[your 31 second insta seethe reply post]
Maybe try >>>/vg/wpsg/ if you're that desperate for your next vanilla fix

>>527300735
how about i post the chronoboon instead?

>>527300934
>bliz changes things so their seasonal employees have something to yap about

>>527300961
But that's not what I asked
Post dual spec in classic era servers

>>527300943
You probably can't tell what the changes are since you didn't play vanilla, it's alright. Whether it's the removal of batching or modern add-on support, there has been major changes in it. Now you now anon. Anni has even MORE changes, you are correct about that.

>>527301128
>that modern convenience doesnt count
ah

>>527301131
>batching that didn't exist in 2004 but was added to simulate the "laggy" feel
>addons that the game itself has no control over, but its caused by the playerbase
man 'nillers are something else

>>527301264
>one little item to appease wbuff freaks
vs
>a massive game changer that allows people to swap specs within raids or dungeons and even battlegrounds
also i see you still haven't posted it, i'm waiting

>>527301480
>only modern conveniences i consider devastating count
there there

Bros I feel like rerolling horde...

>>527301935
>refuses to post
crynillers take another L

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2485001739?t=0h18m17s

>>527299335
>class balance with every patch
Just like vanilla when it was good.

>>527302203
>crying about it for the remainder of the raid
wow he's having a blast and FUN

someone post the sheen complation of him dying over and over

>>527302462
parsebrained are the ultimate mazed rats. Roumor has it some of then even grind r14 just to up their numbers. I wish cronoboom was never added so I could kill them and make them seethe

>>527302242
>vanila was only good when it was retail
bolumes

>>527302517
https://streamable.com/phmm9k
Ask and ya shall receive

>>527302203
another sheen masterclass

>>527302713
bless you

>>527302713
Good post

>>527302713
>dies to the red circle
I didn't think people would actually die to it and thought it was just a meme from this place

>>527302713
based classique dogshitter

>>527302713
Funny how he would thrive on r*tail with the rest of the shitters kek

>>527302713
how can people be this bad

>>527304730
>>527305670
you've never pvmped hard like he does, world record holder etc

>>527305768
>a record no one ever talks about
lol

And yet here you are, talking about it. Volumenes

>>527306664
>indirect reply
woman

need a 'vun 'sus for mop stat

rsham > mw > rdruid > disc > hpal

ourguy wiping on KT now

>ip wipe
>only 3 posts
lilbro here really evading bans every time with a new vpn

>>527299970

>>527295557
Even with petries you couldn't handle raiding, what does that say about you? Soft ass nigga

>>527308456
post hc character with naxx gear lil bro

Been playing Cataclysm/nu-wow lately and it is such a trash game.
The questing is the same time smothering easy and boring yet somehow being irritating and overwhelming.
PVP is like, you blow everything you have on someone and their HP bar does not even move and then they 1 shot you.
For real anyone who is not a hardcore wow nerd already are never gonna like these trash games.

Some classes have also received an early buff, despite being expected to scale well as the Mists of Pandaria Classic expansion progresses. Our intent here is to give certain specs more power to balance them early in the expansion, but we already plan to revert many of the buffs made to these specs as the expansion progresses, and these specs naturally scale back up to their expected levels.

So essentially if you pick a spec that was buffed, itll only get worse as the expansion progresses

Heh

how do i turn my valor points into justice points? i dont care about doing firelands/ds i just want to buy heirlooms

>>527314623
You can't :)
Either grind rune dungeons or pvp and exchange their currencies.

>>527314932
can valor be converted into honor?

Is there any incentive to starting now if I want to play Blood Elf on the anniversary server? Like are there going to be boost mechanics or heirlooms or anything like that?

>>527307481
Why are people wiping on KT in 2025? This shit should've been on farm 5 years ago...

>>527285532
"It's okay because arms is top tier :)"
Blizzard will never beat the allegations they can't balance tanks for shit.

>>527310220
bump

>>527318887
they can, but it would mean they have to stop hating warrior

>>527316070
Don't think so. But the valor gets converted to justice at prepatch so might as well grind it.

>>527316958
Only incentive would be to stock up on money and materials to get professions up to speed.

Define "Retail" right now. Watch as the vanilloid twists and contorts as he cannot rationally define it.

>>527321297
features i dislike in a personal manner = retail
i hate pvp gear in vanilla, that makes it retail

>>527321297
Will you shut up please? Anyone can tell you are stupid and they don't dislike you because they "can't handle the truth" but because you are a repetitive and annoying spammer.

>>527287170
I'd love to see a vanilla server that wasn't just 1.12 but let's be real blizzard doesn't want to suffer us through shit like all of the laughable 1.1 capstone talents like Innervate for resto druids or spirit bond for beast mastery hunters, nor do they want to put in the effort to actually show us the idea of talents in vanilla's beta implemented.

So I see why it's "better" to release the game at an arbitrary half-way point that blizzard themselves fully admit some classes are plain unfinished, but it still feels lazy.

>>527321590
I also hate pvp gear in vanilla because it's the only version of the game where you can get awarded amazing gear without a pvp rank. It's entirely dependent on hours put in rather than winning or losing.

But if anything, vanilla pvp isn't retail because it's the only version of the game that DOESN'T require a pvp rank for good gear.

>>527321297
anything after 2006 is retail

>>527321694
He's a mop fan, hope that explains everything

>>527321297
The truth is most classic players calling things "retail" haven't played actual retail in a decade. They have enough secondhand knowledge to know that BFA and Shadowlands was really bad so they just call anything they don't like "retail".

>>527322186
..exactly the same as raid gear?? r14 wasn't a problem in real vanilla because if someone was that much if a no life they deserved it. It's different now of course

>>527321297
>2 meme answers
>2 angry answers from 'nillers
>1 real answer

>>527323096
Literally every R14 shared accounts. Shit was poorly designed.

>>527322675
Honestly if we're actually gonna categorize periods of WoW, it'd probably have to be done in eras. Like Vanilla-TBC-Wrath era, Cata-MoP-WoD era, and the modern era ushered in by Legion. But even Legion is a vastly different gameplay loop compared to DF/TWW, so maybe Dragonflight is the start of the 4th era of WoW? TWW is more or less a repeat of the DF gameplay loop.

But you could argue that vanilla is it's own era where leveling IS the main game and endgame was way more sandboxy, but that's just because of the mindset/culture of the playerbase in 2005, and the fact that my computer could barely load Orgrimmar or Ironforge, let alone enter a raid with more than 10 fps. I think we just categorize tbc and wrath with vanilla because Cata permanently removed swathes of vanilla content from the game, and leveling truly got trivialized around then.

so maybe something like
>Vanilla
>Flying Mount Era (TBC-WotLK)
>Cata Era (Cata-WoD)
>AP/M+ Era (Legion-SL)
>Modern Retail (DF-present)

>>527323374
Vanilla pvp system is arguably the most poorly designed system ever put into the game. They need to bite the bullet for the next iteration of vanilla and just give it a currency based system to buy gear like every other xpac.

>>527322186
>>527323096
>>527323374
You guys realize that the pvp gear was garbage originally right? It was until 1.6 (BWL) where they buffed weapons and 1.11 (Naxx) that buffed the armor sets
https://classicdb.ch/?item=18838-4
https://classicdb.ch/?item=18805

https://classicdb.ch/?item=16849-4
https://classicdb.ch/?item=16462

no one really cared about this until late naxx and even then you didn't have to put that much effort back then because the pvp pool was so big you could reach the cap without worrying about some freak getting to 1 million honor

it's still a shit design don't get me wrong, but this is one big reason why them releasing the latest version of the gear was a big problem

>>527323096
>..exactly the same as raid gear
you can get R14 without winning a single game
can you get raid gear without killing a single boss?

>>527323869
I'd separate MoP from WoD for a big reason: It was the time that they squished down the original numbers of every class and item because it was getting out of hand at late MoP (Tanks were reaching 1 mil HP)
WoD also introduced the new player models, garrisons (Confining players by force to an isolated area) and jumpstarted the horrendous meta of overcomplicated raid fights (Archimonde being the biggest offender)

>>527324692
nah the general gameplay and systems are still too similar.

>>527324998
Look up how much shit they removed from every class from MoP to WoD and you'll see why they're separate

>had to bench several nice people in cata because the fights were too hard for them
>mop raids are even harder
this game is made for drunk boomers why did they make it so hard

>>527325475
casuals can just play r*tail with lfr and do dungeons with AI companions

>>527325581
UH OH

>>527325475
Classic will continue moving forward through the old xpacs and repeat the same issues as retail where fights become too difficult for the average player.

>using my meme as a "no u"
you're so transparent

>indirect instant seethe
woman moment

>>527325936
is moving out from A to B really considered hard for your average retard?
Oh what am I saying, of course it is. It shows right here >>527302713

hate these nigger bosses with mechanics that prevent me from soloing them

>>527326294
just ask your bf retard

>>527326134
That's why classic era is a good thing, to contain these 'nillers from ruining it for everyone else

>mfw making massive bank farming sunwell trash

>>527302713
I've seen plenty of compilations of streamers dying, how bad could this-
>runs directly into Icehowl
>TWICE
dear god...

>killing sod
>all that non sense they are doing with protocols
>class rebalance
>those bags with mounts
wtf is blizzard doing with classic?

>>527302713
ToTc is not a hard raid but it never gets old seeing him not understand the mechanics.

>>527328598
the retoiletfication of classic has begun

>>527328672
Can't wait for the gay centaurs!

>>527328672
what the fuck are you talking about you dumb cunt? mop is already retail there is no need to do this shit

>>527328598
>killing sod
Do people even know what "sod" stands for?
Season of Discovery
SEASON of Discovery

Seriously why the fuck are so many retards surprised that it's ending? It was blatant FROM THE FUCKING START that it wasn't a permanent thing.

>>527324295
The R14 weapons are really fine, it's basically a free raid weapon which most people get eventually anyway, BRE mogs R14 with 1 proc, Sulfuras deals more damage, Ashkandi is pretty much the same thing, R14 dagger is like 6 extra damage vs the dagger from Rag.
But the R13 set and caster weapons are aids powercreep in MC or BWL patch, from pre-bis it basically doubles your HP and gives you raid BIS levels of damage. The mage set misses like 30 spell damage from Tier 3. It's why things like Shadow priest and soul link warlock are so aids in vanilla, they are already tanky, now you double their HP with gear from Naxx patch while everyone has shit damage?

>>527328672
NEXT STEP: disney pixar character models for the ToT patch

>>527328903
they can reset it and the dumb fucks will play it again but they are killing it and sending them to mop with a free bost.

>>527328903
>why the fuck are so many retards surprised that it's ending?
We're not surprised, just disappointed. It was probably the best version of the game they ever put out.

>>527328903
They even extended it an additional phase, but retards gona retard.

>59 exalted reps
>only reps left are the wsg/ab/gay centaurs one

>>527330153
>teased Scarlet enclave in the announcement
>you should consider yourself lucky they even did it!
They didn't extend it an additional phase, they backtracked on cancelling a planned phase once they realized that there was enough interest.

>>527328598
grinding the niller cryboomers down to paste because they get filtered out by anything more difficult than a normal dungeon

>>527330153
>>527330831
what are you 2 clueless retards yapping about lol

>>527330891
>thread about classic wow
>i have a problem with it
>this makes me look good i am winning

>>527331164
if you dont like it then dont play it, why whine about it

>>527331164
>classic wow is just 1 game
sorry boo boo, but /wowcg/ holds 6 different classic wow games

>>527330280
just let your son finish them while you are at work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKtZbdLRJk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKtZbdLRJk8

we're all here

>>527302713
How does one attain this level of delusional confidence?

>>527328598
They're getting ready for Classic+. They tested the waters with #somechanges in TBC then one or two balance changes during WoTLK, and most people were okay with it.
They then went a step further and developed SoD to see how players would react to massive sweeping changes in a completely new meta. They managed to capture a big audience and exposed them to nu-dev changes which again most people were okay with.
Now they're ripping off the bandaid and completely reworking the already established MoP meta.
This is all for Classic+.

More buffies for pala chads

>>527333064
>stuck in melee cuck camp again

>>527330904
Sounds like you're the one who's a clueless retard

>>527333519
>no u
lol

cum eating furfag

>>527334213
Yes, you.

Tfw no 4chan guild for spineshatter alliance eu

>>527334991
vun is making one for mop

>>527335565
Red pill me on vun

*blinks into field of strife*
*frost novas 3 lvl 57s and a rdruid*
*dies*
*recalls*
*dies trying to run into dreks room*
what's his end game?

>>527334758

>>527336158
Winning the game

Human.
Male.
Paladin.

>>527336158
why are male trolls always so bad at the game
i would say peak retard but male tauren exists
male tauren are played by actual cows

>>527336526
he plays troll mage he already lost

>>527212186
GIVE RESTO DRUID BACK THEIR EXPLODEY MUSHROOMS FROM TOT PATCH YOU COWARDS

>>527156971 (OP)
If I ever gave any buffs at all MoP endgame is what I would've come back for. MoP was the goat for gameplay and class fun.

Just doing a quick wellness check on J

>1fp

>>527338057
I find female orc and female troll players to be the best at everything unless they're biologically female.

>>527157350
TBC and MoP are cool man i dont gotta explain shit, could be that I always played or at least alted a warlock throughout all of WoW so that helps.

>>527338518
idk what was so special about the design team back then. It really felt like MoP had all sorts of really cool ideas being thrown at it mechanically.

which mop healer is the most fun since they just about even'd them all out (except hpal LOOOOOL)

>>527341179
wrong thread troon

>>527341354
MoP is classic my lil retard

>>527341535
We only discuss the Original Trilogy in this thread. Anything else is r*toilet trash

>>527341535
Get out, retail troon. You are in the wrong thread, dumbass.

>>527338087
Honestly I always play undead but I like it, Troll racial + anything either caster or melee is the biggest DPS increase of any racial.

>>527321297
i still have no idea what being retail means

>>527341179
>>527341535
ignore the trannies, most fun in mop is probably mistweaver

can they just release tbc already? fucking no one is sticking around for aq40 and naxx has attunements which which means all the anti tbc players wont touch it either

mop may not be classic but its coming anyways and you cant do anything to stop it, cryniller

>>527341535
>2 insta seethe replies
HOOOOLY

>>527341595
>Original Trilogy
Wrathshit is Retail too, wrathbabby.

>>527343171
>fun things to do in vanilla:
>>gank redridge
>fun things to do in TBC:
>>nothing at all
Which one are people gonna play you think?

>Solo'd ony 10 with my pali
Heh .. another mountie to farm

>>527343652
>further enforcing the fact that the only people crying about flying mounts are school shooters who camp lowbies

>>527343864
>further enforcing the fact that you are a faggot who gets upset over a video game and compares it to killing people irl
yes, thank you

>>527344037
>abloo abloo ablooo pls don't leave me :(

>>527344115
>literally incoherent
take your meds

>>527344183
>>literally incoherent
the lack of self awareness
simply amusing

>>527344403
>>>ABLOO ABLOO ABLOO PSL DON'T LEAVE ME
>>bouncer: what the fuck are you talking about?
>the lack of self awareness
>simply amusing
>>bouncer: my god how much crack have you smoked? i'm calling an ambulance.

toilet meltie

>>527344820
holy meltie

>>527344934
>>527344965
Whose?

>>527345894
the "pvp" cryniller

>>527345976
Ok mind explaining that nex time because with 1 letter replies it's sometimes hard to tell the retarded retal spammer from other people.

>>527346237
Maybe next time don't reply to women that reply indirectly

'vün updates?

Grim

why is lil bro asking about himself?

>>527346376

>>527347818

tick tock nillers, only 38 days until this becomes /wowmopg/

yikes

>>527341535

>>527161576
do not search for "kael'thas private server" on youtube

>>527341535
WoD is the expansion that is 100% retail no matter how old it gets.

>>527352509
why?

does anyone remember when you'd have a healer sit out of combat in a raid to res people that died?

>>527352665
The Disney Pixar models were introduced

how complex is mw to actually play? I'd play fistweaving

>>527352665
Graphics update to the new models is the biggest one.
Garrisons were the final nail in the game being single player centric rather than group-centric. Most casual players we're now encouraged to spend most of their time tending to their garrison, maybe making new characters to makes more garrisons. They could get the resources they needed from their garrisons, without trading. There was no need to go out into the world or find a group for a dungeon to farm gold, you'd get it from your Garrison.
It was an expansion designed to be a tourist attraction rather than an adventure. It's a pile of zones that you only visit once, steamrolling all of the quests, and never visit again. Just sit in your garrison between raids.
My own personal opinion is that WoD raid encounters were obtuse and overdesigned for the sake of being obtuse and overdesigned. Something that was rarely a problem before then and consistently a problem after.

>>527336158
there is a whole class of player who's only goal is to be as annoying as possible

>>527354105
But how does that make a game retail when the current retail game right now is called "The War Within"?

>>527355396
Don't sit there and pretend to be retarded, it's not a good look on you.

>>527355596
I'm asking an honest question and you throw a tantrum over it?

>>527344037
damn you werent supposed to get this upset at my post lol

>>527349515
>fat indoors

>>527353950
its wow, nothing is hard unless you have a learning disability or down syndrome

paladin is gay enough that i think it warrants being removed from the game. i dont know why my 600 lb life type people love it so much but sod showed fat devs can't be trusted with it. there will be riots across the globe if paladins are in the next expansion

>>527357947
if you remove paladin then warrior just becomes the defacto crybaby class

We're running alliance on faerlina yes yes

>>527359050
>hordechads get to plap this

Staysafe has started strreaming on YouTube and he's getting 10,000 live viewers. Payo had 1,200 viewers today. Immeasurable victory for Staysafe.

>namedropping people like we're just supposed to know who they are

>>527360298
not even esfat gets that many when he's doing whatever bullshit variety slop he's doing. even when he plays wow he doesn't average that much
i guess pivoting into politics makes you a millionaire now

>>527360941
If you're a newfag just say so. I don't even watch wow streamers and I know staysafe.

>>527360298
>>527360956
staysafe's blowup over the last couple months is insane. over half a million subscribers and 10k viewers. ziqo and payo on suicide watch

>>527361223
>not knowing this ancient meme
kek and you call others newfags

>thread only moves fast when its about e-celebs
hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>527361795
this game fucking sucks and the only interesting thing about is seeing which e-celebs are able to successfully escape the wow matrix. so far? only asmongold and staysafe.

>>527361917
That's strange because I see plenty of people talking about wanting to play MoP and SoD, but then you get 'nillers being a nuisance and scaring those guys away so

>>527361709
>not knowing the secret response
newfag

holy fuck i just went and checked staysafes youtube channel. he's actually like INSANELY successful lmao

>>527362059
>damage control

>>527362206
Sorry that's the wrong number

>coming to this shithole to samefag about yourself
holy irrelevant

whats the most bussing tank in mop?

>over 10 posts filtered in the last 30 minutes
Which spambot is at it this time?

>>527336158
One mage slowing down the enemy team can buy just enough time for their team to win.

Furthermore, AV zerg rush autists deserve all the grief they can get

>join MC pug
>not enough douses
>try to finish the dowse pre quest to get one
>30 minutes pass and we eventually get them
>I'm stuck in north eastern kingdoms
>Ask for summon
>5 different people typing 123 in chat for 10 minutes
>Two locks are afk
>One throws a hissy fit in chat that he isn't slacking and everyone should've walked
>I whisper him "too big to click a button? Damn nigga"
>He says I called him the n word
>I am kicked from pug
>he sends me ":)" 1 minute later

are there any leveling buffs on anni currently?

Over the last few weeks there's been a lot of dicussion about warmode. I really don't get it, who the fuck are arguing for this bullshit? Is it just pve carebears who don't want to be called pussies for playing pve realms? Why should Blizzard introduce this bullshit and ruin pvp realms, when you can just stay on your pve realm?

>>527367901
cant speak for others but WM's original gimmick was to get people who dont pvp to try and pvp in the open world, and tbf it actually did kinda work for a while, at least during the expansion.

>>527367901
because most of the people on monofaction pvp servers don't want to pvp at all, but there are some people that do. Adding warmode and merging the servers is the only option that wouldn't cause mass meltdowns

>>527367901
no one actually likes wpvp. its just a psyop stemming from peer pressure

>>527353403
They had Disney animators working on the og models so.. vanilla is actually retail too?! wtf!!!

>>527367901
warmode is bad on retail because the overwhelming majority of players are alliance

why would warmode be any better on mono-faction servers?

>>527363692
good job nigger

>>527302713
Whenever someone says addons play the game for you, just show them this compilation. No amount of sound effects or giant text in the middle of your screen can fix good old fashioned stupidity.

>>527362181
Ride the red wave and become rich. Wish I started doing it. Literally all you have to do is align with "conservative" values like not giving your child body altering hormone injections

>>527378443
you'd have to be jobless to play scata I suppose. I'd play it if blizzard paid me though

Is demonology a meme spec in MoP?

>>527161321
Oh look, Mutt's Law is upheld yet again.

>>527369674
>the only option that wouldn't cause mass meltdowns
how about the forced 50/50 we have that works well??? They don't have to do anything new

>>527382675
>works well
Horde literally made thousands of lvl 1 ally chars just so they can make horde chars on their main, there was a huge discord campaign to make it happen. But that was mostly launch shenanigans I suppose.

>>527382675
>locking people out of factions
>forced wpvp
that will cause turbo meltdowns and they will never do that outside of meme fresh servers

>>527382675
Even with true forced 50/50 faction balance per server you will still have all the pvpers picking whatever side has the best racials and shitstomping the opposite faction.

>>527379509
yes, it's unironically more fun on TWW than MoP, aff was always the best Warlock spec and it wasnt really close.

>healers actually grind R14 JUST FOR THE MACE
lmao, genuine cuck moment. No classic raids are hard to heal at all

>>527388684
Isn't Nefarian's dildo about the same? Also yeah, bosses die in mere seconds, R14 doesn't worth it for healers, maybe they're gearing for dual spec tho.

>90% of 'rankers' have their racial pvp mount
is it just a bot that buys the first one or something? usually people get the opposite

I want to play enhance in tbc but I don't want to totem twist

>>527392607
if you want to mdps in tbc you play Warrior, unless you don't care about meters then play whatever you want

>>527392607
enhance is going to be overplayed big time in tbc. a huge % of levers right now are shaman. all the warriors will be going it

>>527392607
>chainheal bot
>lightningbolt bot
>totemtwist cuck
why would anyone ever play a shaman

>>527393149
instant invites and 0 loot because there are always 9 other shamans rolling on it
but lets be honest all pre cata specializations are garbage to play

>>527392607
Then don't play that spec, it's sadly a metacuck humiliation ritual role. Fuck totem twisting as a concept

>>527393149
>CHAIN LIGHTNING ONESHOTS
>WINDFURY ONESHOTS
shaman is the most fun pvp class in the game you swine

>>527393910
>>>>>>pvp
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>527394069
>parsing
LMAO

>>527394286
no one said that
take your meds

>>527394335
okay well shaman is fun (and great) while leveling, world pvping, bgs and 5 mans so what now?

>>527395123
>shaman is fun (and great) while leveling
false

>>527392607
What don't you like about totem twisting? It fills out a rather barebones rotation.

>>527395214
windfury is fun, if you level without windfury like a cuck then you only have yourself to blame

>>527394069
>>527394286
so both of you suck dick at pvp AND pve and ur still trying to feel superior to the other got it. DOOD LMFAO U CARE ABOUT PVP? DOOD LMFAO U CARE ABOUT PVE? Both of you are faggots and terrible at the game kys

>>527395945
>parsing makes me good at the game
do you actually think this, do you know how it works? If you removed all the logs of people who don't care (have wbs etc) your gay little pink parses would be blue

>>527395945
>unironic parsetranny in the thread
bruh

Tbc or Mop?

>>527396085
>>527396117
seethe + concession accepted

>>527396358
both. there is a year until tbshit

>>527396426
I have multiple 99s in every patch I've ever raided in, I'm like top 140 in sod p1 (lmao) its not hard at all and you're not a good player you faggot

>>527158773
>classic servers are for literal third world Mexicans who were too fucking poor to play WoW when they were children and now they're recapturing the light of lost experience.
No need to call me out like that

for me, it's rogue in tbc

>>527397893
>nooo le 1 per raid

>>527398228

Mentally ill mutt woke up

Really getting the itch to play MoP classic after having not played WoW for a few years.

>>527397893
rogues will lie unlike me who will only tell the truth about glaives and the truth about glaives is it is good for warriors and not for rogues and rogues don't need it except for arena and rogues in arena are not warriors thus they should not get it and warriors do more damage than rogues and the set bonus is better for warriors and warriors have been using mace since prebis and deserve an upgrade and warriors are the better class and

>>527402572
It's doa. They turned into r*tail with all the class changes they've done this week. Just play Anni and prep for TBC

>>527403894
They’re messing with the MoP skills and patches?

>>527404093
yes it's disgusting

>>527392607
then dont?
>nooo people wont invite me, a shaman, in fucking TBC if i do this
nigger you have bloodlust thats enough

>>527404203
Seems to just defeat the purpose of Classic, no?

>>527404093
The sanctity of our beloved diaperfur expansion where you battle...emotions!
>>527404203
All jokes aside it is disgusting, people just wanted to play the expansion, they don't seem to really understand their own audience

>>527403835
Hows demo that high?

>>527403894
they know retail is dead so they're trying to make mop classic into retail. aggrend and his team are retarded

>>527404437
>they know this thing is dead so theyre trying to make something else dead
this is how retarded you sound

>>527403894
>MoP
>turned into r*tail
Anon I...

>>527402572
>>>/wowg/

changes are spot on so far. needs only boss specific lockouts, soloq 3v3 and it will be certified kino

>>527403835
>arms that high
gonna be funny watching others bicker over glaives while the true gods remain unconcerned

you think you do but you don't

MoP is classic

>>527404384
They enslave a demon on muru that does a billion dps.

>>527403894
>>527404437
>>527404560
>>527404819
the cryniller booms out in pain as he witnesses people playing other versions of wow

>>527407935
You've been here crying about classic even longer kek

>>527408181
Who are you talking to lil bro? I've been playing classic since 2019.
Just because I'm not a mazed rat like (You) doesn't mean I hate vanilla

>'niller who never played banilla
Every time.

>>527392607
Find some casual guild that doesn't care about totems, but with guild like that you will most likely be wiping 10 times every week on Leotheras and Morrogrim and never even get close to killing Vashj and Kael.
Just play ret and seal twist, same thing as enhance, but actually useful in raids.

Im excited for mop, I never even played retail, but playing with my friends all the way from classic to cata has been a blast. It had it's ups and downs, but nothing beats the feeling of finally clearing raid or smashing that one boss that was wiping the floor with you for weeks (fucking Muru).

>>527405390
think?

>>527410576
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO STAY IN TRANILLA FOREVER