Thread 532766215

"I felt a great disturbance in the /agdg/, as if thousands of pedodevs suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. Reeeeeeeeeeeeee" edition.

>Demo Days
Next: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64
Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-63
Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA

>AGDG resources
https://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw

>Helpful links
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/
Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/

>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>532675771

I want to make some money with my game, at least 10k FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

PENIS IN THE DICK!!! XD

Made some progress with the mapping of the remaining missions. Terrain is mostly done. Added these crystals to the game, they do nothing, but one mission objective will be to find and destroy all 3 or 5 crystals on the map before being overrun.

>>532766312
Post game so we can give feedback, advice, and crab on it.

>>532766549
soul

AI has my back

Threadly reminder that even gamedev success can be a trap.
Imagine your game earns you 10 years of income. Would you quit your job and start making games full time? If so, you'd have fallen into the same trap I did.
The crux of the trap is the time you spend as a gamedev will count against you if ever need to get a job again. And the ironic thing is the more successful you are, the more dangerous the trap will be unless you earn enough money to never need a job again.
The only way full-time gamedev would be sustainable is if your games keep earning at least a year of expenses for every year worked... until you're literally 75. And I do mean literally. When you're 72, you'll need to sit down and make a game that earns you 3 years of expenses. Anything short of that and you'll eventually run out of money. And when you do, you'd have been 10-15-20 years out of the job market and good luck getting a job with that employment gap.
When you run out of money, it can take as little as a couple of months for your life to be ruined. That's what happened to me. I found myself broke at 45 and no job for the past 15 years except making games. And I'm looking at 30 more years of having to survive. I can't get job interviews, I can't afford to keep working on games, and I'm too old to get into trades. My life is probably fucked because my first project earned me 10 years of income and I quit my job like a dumb ass.
Anyway, the point of this is to warn you: DO NOT QUIT YOUR JOBS UNLESS YOU EARNED ENOUGH MONEY TO NEVER NEED A JOB AGAIN. If my warning saves even a couple of you, it's worth it.

>but why didn't you invest your money and live off your investments you idiot?
Average return on an investment portfolio is said to be around 10%... before capital gains tax (10-20%) and inflation (2-5%). The real returns (again, before tax) are 5.2%. And you're not going to get your game earnings as a lump sum but over months or even years. Do the math.

>>532766549
looks cool man. Keep it up and i'll buy it

don't reply to it

>>532767053
people who think that you have to wait on some 10% are fucking retards, people who invested in Nvidia made millions, just pick good companies

>>532766549
Kinoooooooooooooooooooo

repost cuz end of thread lol

what are some features you guys would like to see in Kludge: Non Compliant Appliance for this upcoming demo day

(which i will post on the first day on time i swear)

>>532767305
>just consistently outperform professional portfolio managers, bro
and if you can, you should be trading stocks for a living and give away your games for free.

>>532767305
>just know the future, bro
yeah and i invested 10k in bitcoin when it only costed $1

>>532767576
literally just read the news and have some common sense

>>532767510
die grifter

>>532767472
but aggydaggy only calls competitors kino if they consider them non-threats

>>532767510
p2p multiplayer

>>532767657
why didn't you get rich off of NVDA or TSLA?

>>532767789
We can all succeed, and I want to see more passion projects out there that hold onto the past instead of spit on it

In a meeting with my artist right now. Wish me luck!

>>532768165
looks like tranime

>>532768028
so you laugh at them behind their backs

Australia is based and christpilled

>>532768165
What is your plan now that every place has blocked porn. You're making a porn game aren't you.

>>532768301
no, I fully believe that the present is evil and ugly and that we should look backwards if we want to improve gaming

>>532768431
I'll create my own damn government if I have to!

people are seething at itch.io for delisting nsfw games but they basically have a gun to their head to do so, and i imagine they will remove them all in the future. according to itch's new guidelines even horror games like mouthwashing aren't allowed because of their themes.
the only way this stops is if the laws around payment processors change, and that can only be done in the US or EU. i don't see that happening any time soon, it may truly be over.

I’m pivoting to HTML5 games

>>532768467
nta but I mostly agree with you except I think we should look inwards the most, why do you think old games were so interesting and innovative. These days gamedev culture is too much about "oh I wanna make a game that's like my favorite games" rather than "I wanna make a game about my favorite general things". old devs were the latter, new devs are the former.

>>532768467
u are llm

>>532768619
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hays_Code

>>532768709
Nice, what kinda thing you got in mind?

>>532766312
the pressure to make money is real

I'll genuinely be fucked if I'm not to market by early next year and making at least enough to live

>>532766950
how does something like mope.io even make money?

>>532768974
>old devs were the latter,
Old devs were inspired by Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Civilization and the like.

How do you call a "roguelike" that is really just a short turn-based game in an arcade-like format, where there are only a few stages that rapidly ramp up and variety comes from having lots of characters and way to build them?

>>532769285
Oye Vey anudda showa

>>532769285
Kino.

>In 1966, Warner Bros. released Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, the first film to feature the "Suggested for Mature Audiences" (SMA) label. As the PCA board was divided about censoring the film's explicit language, Valenti negotiated a compromise: the word "screw" was removed, but other language remained, including the phrase "hump the hostess". The film received Production Code approval despite the previously prohibited language.
Will (Your) game use "hump" or "screw"?

>>532769660
Just add infinite loops and call it a roguelitke. Cf. Nuclear Throne.

>>532768974
Doom spawned a bunch of doomclones, and pretty sure most platformers existed because of the success of stuff like mario. Hack frauds always existed. You just forget about the old ones over time

Is there a good place to steal the older RPG Makers, I'm surprised how much trouble I'm having finding the editors pre-VXA

Not exactly a game per se, but I was thinking of flexing my development muscles by making a joke-a-day app as a little side project.
Any well-educated opinions on this?

>>532766312
betabot made 24k on kickstarter
is your game worse

>>532766215 (OP)
>"I felt a great disturbance in the /agdg/, as if thousands of pedodevs suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. Reeeeeeeeeeeeee" edition.
Somebody tell Fygoon and Shartyfags that the same forces against "gooning" would also go against their poor imitation of KiwiFarms/Encyclopedia Dramatica and edgy wojak culture.
Imagine defending censorship on 4chan of all fucking places.
That's a whole level of newfaggotry.
Internet rightwingers forgot that the same "family values" people would also hate their edgelord faggotry.
No dude, tell your God loving aunt about your time spent on /pol/, she'll love it.
Also shartyfags put CP on ChibiReviews just to make him look like a pedo and the only response they got against the guy who did it was "at least use a VPN".
Behind every edgelord is a failed moralfag.
UK doesn't do shit about actual pedos and rapists but they'll gladly go 1984 over icky drawings like Tumblrinas.
>>532768619
Violent games will be next because censorship is a snowball.
Give them an inch, they'll go for a mile.
Any fag celebrating this will also bite the bullet.
None of you fags learn.
I bet Jack Thompson and Anita Sarkeesian are cumming hard right now.
Expect game censorship on par with replacing humans with robots and dumb shit like that.
>>532768430
They pandered to feminists, who rightwingers used to hate and lefties used to love.
But of course both sides will pretend this never happens.
"Owning my enemy" is the first concern.

>>532769660
roguelite

>>532770806
There's no metaprogression though. It's just characters with set skill trees that you level each match.

>>532770719
Also to add, these same corporations banning porn also pander to wokes to look progressive.
Of course they'll go after Basedjak and any place people constantly go "KILL ALL NIGGERS".
Good job rightoids.
You forgot you got any push at all because of gamers complaining about SJW's censoring games in 2014.

>>532770136
and lot of the clones ended up being among the best remembered games in those genres or in some cases transformed the genre onto a new level or spawned a new genre

cloning isn't bad as long as you make a quality game

>>532770719
>They pandered to feminists, who rightwingers used to hate and lefties used to love.
"christian" feminists are the reason why the age of consent is arbitrarily 18, they're way worse than secular feminists who achieved nothing but no side from the culture war is shitting on them, the gamergate righteoid types larp as christcucks despite being degenerates who would get burned alive in an actual christian ruled country and the leftoids wont attack the heccin feminists.
you're part of the problem since people like you created the culture war in first place making sure nothing is achieved

>>532771185
a roguelite doesn't need to have meta progression

make some of the characters unlockable and that can be your "meta progression"

>>532770719
>Reeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>532771474
>you're part of the problem since people like you created the culture war in first place making sure nothing is achieved
I was never on either side.
Only the side of "stop censoring shit".
All I wanted was shit to not get censored and I focused on that instead of made up shit like "left or right".
The actual starters of the culture wars are SomethingAwful fags with troll's remorse because this all boils down to "I don't want normies to think I'm weird".
That's why even supposed nerds defend censorship.
And also why gatekeeping doesn't always work when the cancer is from the inside.

>>532769593
java games clones

>>532770306
slop. Make a wikipedia app with a widget that features the top 10 searched subjects daily.
I tried to do it a couple of years ago but im too retarded to do android

>>532770719
I kinda disagree with this guy. I think there's still beauty to be found in the average rather than the exceptional and outstanding. It's like appreciating what you have and shieeet

I will offer to help for free with one (1) small to medium sized programming problem. Post details about your problem that you want help with, maybe also a way to reproduce the issue. One of the first replies, if any, will be picked, so don't hesitate to post your problem description.

My game will be about how much I hate God, women, men, fags, trains, straights, niggers, kikes, whites, asians, latins, and everyone else too. Misanthropy and Misotheism are the core values of my game

ore dekinaiyo...

>>532767510
I want to smash a car like in street fighter 3rd strike

>>532771929
Why not just serve them as a Java applet? : ^

>>532772359
Yeah. Guy was also a bbc cuck. But this is a blue board so

>>532772639
I mean clones of old java games, HTML5 because I want to make money by licensing/selling these games

And new demo version pushed on steam.
Place your bet on my number of sell and review!

uh oh

here we go

>>532773398
How much will the price be?

>>532773495
shouldn't have hosted and promoted and earned money from cartoon cp

>>532773495
Aren’t 4chan passes sold through Stripe? How are they gonna boot itch lmfao

>>532772462
taoru o nagero!

>>532773863
i thought you could only buy those with crypto

>>532767675

no u, eternally butthurt nodev.

you will never make a game.

Hey, guys. What do you think of my game so far?

>>532774056
just be quiet already you boring tranny

>>532772476

can do, i was thinking about this earlier i might add one of those smart cars or something.

>>532767805

will have to be a kickstarter goal

>>532774123
Reminds me of the Jurassic Park rail shooter arcade game

>>532773693
looks promising anon, I already love the name! I'm assuming it's a tower defense with a blocky theme?

>>532773804
what, you mean selling cartoon images of naked 10 year olds being tortured, beaten and wounded physically wasn't the greatest of ideas? O_O

>>532774056
daaamn so edgy

>>532773693
>godont
ngmi

>>532774301
Smashing a torsla neo-cab might be a draw for some

>>532774056
just keep going already you fun yesdev

>>532774517
samefagging is a bannable offense

>>532774123
>>532774316
you niggas really can't even come up with original posts anymore

just repost the same shit

>>532766215 (OP)
PFFHAHAHAH NORTUBEL IS SEETHING

>>532774123
Thanks to this clip we'll be getting buried in Daggerfall-like 2.5d parallaxing background games in about a year

>>532774639
Yet I won't get banned because I'm not samefagging.

You gotta be fucking kidding me.

>>532774675
Nothing will happen. No games will be made because of this gif and no one will play them even if they are made. If those twitter fags really wanted to play such a game they would've already booted up oblivion or daggerfall. (HINT: they dont care about the graphics, oblivion is literally exactly what they're asking for)

>>532774465
>>532774321
I already deleted it, sticking to ChadUnity

>>532774056
There's a schizo who basically replies that to every yesdev as a pathetic attempt at demoralization.
Having him latch on to you is a sign of success. GMI.

>>532774910
>Jewish
like all gambledevs spiritually are

>>532774123
very nice
are you using voxelized LOD for the pixel art effect?

I am learning SDL before I try to learn a pre-built game engine.
Maybe thats retarded, but I want to understand how to make games on a deeper level

>>532775241
how about understanding games on emotional and spiritual level?

>>532774123
Reminds me of the time my uncle got super drunk while he was supposed to be babysitting

>>532775363
Cris only the chosen few can do that.

show your Chadnity version

>>532775241
>make games on a deeper level
hmm... more like processing graphics on a deeper level

>>532775651
I saw that rancid gaping anus and decided I'll stick with 2021 in perpetuity

>>532775241
Maybe it’s retarded, but it’s pretty fun desu. Godspeed.
>>532775846
SDL (at least SDL2, idk about SDL3) teaches least about how graphics work. You just copy texture pieces to the screen. It made me think that "shaders" was some esoteric 3D stuff.

everytime I hear SDL, I want to do my own game engine fuck, but I know it will be a massive waste of time

>>532775651
Is that meant to be a vagina? Why would Unity use this as their splash screen?

>>532774176

no, im gonna post whatever i want, whenever i want. i'm glad my progress hurts you emotionally, you deserve it. go be a seething bucketcrab spiteful mutant in some VN thread instead.

better yet, why not try actually making a video game instead? oh wait. you wont.

>>532774056
I think you can code enticing gameplay but you need a game designer/producer to really bring out a god game.

>>532768619
Not accepting Visa payments isn’t a gun to the head
If they said NO they would get more money they’ve ever made in crypto donations overnight
Don’t be a bitch don’t capitulate

>>532777684

i got dis anon don't worry. i have a pretty adaptable scope in mind and i understand quite well the things which need the most focus.

>>532774910
how many times are you gonna post this?

no seriously full blown games take way too much effort. I get creating HTML5 games and licencing them. You can bang out HTML5 game in a day and you can give it to multiple publishers for a $700-$1000, lets say you give it to 4 and you have $4k made

>>532775013
based gmi

>>532778249
Where the fuck are you finding these publishers that pay hundreds for a 1day html5 game?

>>532778563
google/upwork

>>532776573
Is not really a waste of time, depending on the game. Anything parcour-heavy and 2D is pretty well suited to be made with SDL. You can also do menu-heavy, but should probably integrate a UI framework for that instead of creating your own.
And naturally don’t make your own level editor, just employ Tiled or a similar project.
>>532777919
The itch guy may be a little bit too much of a leftie to go the crypto route. There’s some huge anti-crypto sentiment on itch generally, as evidenced by all the "DONT RESELL AS NFT" panic headers on assets.
But eventually they all learn. They get debanked, they get deplatformed. Then they learn.

>>532778249
Do you use an engine building your HTML5 games?

>>532774396
>>532774176


You will never be a gamedev. You have no assets, you have no code, you have no gameplay loop. You are a homosexual bucketcrab twisted by shitposts and tripfags into a crude mockery of Miyamoto's perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back yesdevs mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of your “game”, your “friends” laugh at your “games” gouhlish appearance behind closed doors.
Video Game Players are utterly repulsed by you. decades of years of videogaming have allowed gamers to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even nodevs who “pass” have games which look uncanny and unnatural to a gamer. Your design doc is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk gamer to play your game, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a look at your diseased, infected asset flip.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself your game will be good, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy an asset pack, put it in your project folder, and plunge into the cold abyss of asset flipping. Your parents will find your game with no sales, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment of your game. They’ll bury your game with a headstone marked with your games title, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a nodevs game is buried there. Your game will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your game is a steampage which is unmistakably a nodev's.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

>>532778563
the larping tranny is lying, i made games for crazygames, poki the process to sell a game is long and tedious with a lot of back and forth
you can also sell the mobile publishers they will only pay you if player retention is good btw

>>532778249
>>532779325
*or, a framework

>>532779523
any engine with WebGL export will do

>>532777618
This looks great. Really. Are you gonna do multiplayer?

>>532779641

i'd love to, it'll have to be a kickstarter goal though. i have a lot of fun ideas for multiplayer modes. something like a hide and seek mode wher4 players start out as tiny little biped robots and have 45 seconds to hide in a level and hide traps, or actual physics sports modes, etc.

lot of potential for modes

>>532779523
Defold or Unity are the best based on web sdks, defold is much harder to use but unity is bloated.

I just learned that chat gpt can understand a danbooru tag description to generate a character, but also understand a normal language description of what the character is doing and the context of it.

Holy shit, lmao.

>>532779974
yeah you have to change few settings in unity do lighten it a bit for HTML5

>>532779438
basically video games are worthless

>>532777618
can someone get rid of this ragebaiting idiot already?

>>532773804
yeah, serves them right for showing anything besides DAZ 3D gobboslop. we yearn for the horrifying slop

my biggest online achievement is selling logo design for $200 a pop. I had like 16 clients total over a span of a year.
It was effortless money. Share yout life hacks.

Oh and the money with gamedev? I made $5 (someone donated it with a note good luck on the project) through my youtube channel

>>532778249
yeah maybe back in 2013

>>532781414
I remember reading some blog of an aussie doing 6 figures with HTML5 games back in 2013-2014

>>532777618
you're turning into fygoon 2

NOOOO WHY DIDN'T I ASK FOR A PAYOUT FROM ITCH JUST EVEN A WEEK EARLIER

>saturday
>/aggy/ is dead
fuckin normies having lives

>>532774056
>>532774301
>>532777618
>>532779973
Looks like the perfect project to completely drop before getting to even 50% because the gameplay has no point and you are too lazy and nonwhite to content dev

>>532782528

and your game looks like it doesn't exist and you will never even start one, and you will never be a real gamedev.

imagine not making a game like you, when unity and blender are free.

>>532782528
>gameplay has no point
what do you mean?
you're a robot with a bat.
what other point do you need?
>content dev
where's your content?

>>532780605

i'm going to be here posting progress until the game is done. (something you will never attempt to do). every time i post progress and you seethe about it, it moralizes me and makes me want to dev more, i hope you continue to seethe about my game forever because you deserve to. thanks for the (you's) nodev chan.

:)

> until the game is done
so forever then. Glad we agree on that

>>532784328
He was always picked last in baseball. this is triggering him.

Animating is so hard. I'm currently drawing everything by hand. Would going low poly save time at all? Think Crocotile/PicoCAD. I really have no idea how involved rigging is in comparison to what I'm doing right now so sorry if the answer is obvious.

>>532784956

why don't you want peoples games to get done, serious question. why are you anti progress on a board about sharing and discussing progress.

>>532782353
dw tomorrow night it will be full-on nodev galore again

>>532785274
I want games to get done more than anything. over the years I've just learned to identify the posting styles of "devs" that never finish games and it pisses me off

>>532785248
3d saves time... unless you fucking hate aspects of it and don't do it and you game is still unfinished years later... :'(

>>532785248
What’s your game and the art style you are aiming for?

where are the tradcath games?

<----- Start doing this

>>532786550
https://yomic.itch.io/wholesome-monster-girl-academia

>>532780213
yep im thinking cris WON

>>532785883

than be pissed off. no one likes you around here. you dont even like video games let alone play them. go fuck off to some board where all they do is neg, shitpost and bucketcrab you'd fit right in. your criticism's aren't productive, you aren't insightful, and worst of all you wont ever make a game.

imagine seething about progress in a progress posting community.

>>532786748
>close my eyes
>imagine a firetruck with a mouth squirting water on a fire
how is this helping my daggerfall-like?

>>532786825
>imagine seething
You seem to be projecting an awful lot.

we won

>>532766549
this looks awesome

>>532787031
Just drop it and make a "shooter" where the "bullets" are water and the "enemies" the fire

>>532786825
bro you're literally fygoon

>>532773693
Godot's way of conceptualizing game programming is too difficult for me

>>532787281
>>532787535

i'm still not seeing any progress from either of you. sounds like all you want to do is come in here and bucketcrab unproductively for no other reason than you're mad about other peoples happiness with gamedeving.

>>532787746
your posting style is identical to fygoon. like, literally a carbon copy

>>532787842

and your lack of game and progress posting is identical to a nodev. go neg some other board.

ok, it is time-consuming but i think i can use krita to hand-draw sprites for my game

i have become sort of decent at lineart, when the time comes to draw environments I will probably shit myself but I will try my best

>>532788596

insomniac hired architects instead of level designers to make the buildings in the original spyro games

>>532787031
>imagine a firetruck with a mouth squirting water on a fire

Anthromorphic vehicles is a huge trope for kids media, make a game about literal firetrucks with mouths putting out fires.

>>532786825
your game looks great ignore the haters

>>532786748
You do NOT want me to use my imagination, trust me.

fixed function pipeline and opengl <=2.0 is enough for indie games. Look at wow, still a lot of people playing with the old client on private servers. 2004 the golden age of games, most of them didn't even had shaders.

How do you get over the burning desire to create something and share it with the world while also having an extremely lazy, self sabotaging mindset? I've wanted to make games/comics/music/animations/etc. my entire life and yet I've never produced anything despite it being all I think about. I don't want to hit 30 and realize I've wasted my entire life being an idea guy with nothing to show for it.

>>532789427
Just do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN-Uh2VfL8c

>>532789639
>>532789427
It's really that simple.

>>532789219

thank you anon, i have big plans for the upcoming demo day, i hope you enjoy the demo.

>>532789427
have a near death experience

>>532789427
write a letter from 30 year old you thanking now-you for actually doing it, all the things you did, he is grateful. and just structure what you do so you meet up with the letter being the one thanking past you.

>>532789639
>>532789792
>>532790096
I don't know how to take control of my life and force myself do the things I want to do. I've been playing video games for decades, it's difficult to recondition my brain to do something that's difficult and gives a delayed sense of gratification when I could launch any video game and immediately feel that same way.

>>532789792
it shocks me that some people have the motivation to steal ideas and follow through with release and everything.

>>532790208
give me control of your life. now go create a tiny little man in mspaint

>getting self help from a gender dysphoric eceleb worshipper
ah hell nah, keep your faggoty advice to your faggot self, faggot

>>532790287
Because the people who have that motivation to finish something are few and far between. Everyone has ideas, but I'd wager less than 10% actually act on them and create something tangible. Doesn't matter if it's games or writing or anything else.

>>532766312
Who here has made the most money on Steam?
Yes it is a competition. Yes you should gloat. How much are you packin?

>>532790515
Just do it!

>>532789427
You're in love with the idea of making those things. You don't actually want to make them considering you've come this far and haven't done it. Making them requires hard work and effort and time spent learning things. It's easier to fantasize about doing something than doing it. You're in the same boat with like half the anons who post here. The sooner you realize that gamedev isn't for you the better as it allows you to move on without becoming a local schizo.

Man this youtuber is really shitting on Tricky Madness, timestamp:
https://youtu.be/P9yVi4LhIVE?si=-aMksDZhGMhzRLbO&t=553

On the other hand the does say that he sees a lot of potential in the game so that is encouraging.

>>532791235
he's right the game is barely a demo

>>532790443
>go create a tiny little man in mspaint
here's a self portrait

>>532791235
Tricky Madness is [existing game, but worse]. Of course the enjoyers of [existing game] would be upset. They don't care how much credit card debt you're in. They just want better games.

Anon it's your chance, what are you waiting for?

>>532791487
>>532791330
and he keeps shitting on it for like the rest of the video... damn, son

>>532790904
Lowest estimates of the top reviewed agdg games:
VA-11 Hall-A: $7.3m
Your Only Move Is HUSTLE: $2.8m
Risk of Rain: $7m
Project Wingman: $7.6m
WORLD OF HORROR: $3.9m
FlyKnight: $1.4m
Bug Fables: $1.6m
DEADBOLT: $984.8k
SNKRX: $259k
Vagante: $1.4m
Lethal League: $937.6k
Star of Providence: $495.1k
Dreaming Sarah:
Penguin Heist: $981k
Peripeteia: $649.9k
Tiny Combat Arena: $311.2k
FIGHT KNIGHT: $237.5k
Tracks - The Train Set Game: $290.9k
Aviary Attorney: $392.2k
Umurangi Generation: $173.6k

>>532791558
looks transcoded
+ carried by one game (mouthwashing)

>>532791558
For you to explain me who that person is and why I should pitch a game to them

>>532791874
VA-11 Hall-A is not an /agdg/ game.

>>532792180
stop

>>532791874
>Peripeteia: $649.9k
How many days of freedom does this buy?

>>532792180
>VA-11 Hall-A is not an /agdg/ game.

>>532791487
this is a big thing to consider when cloning old games

can you make a better or at least as good of a game as the old one? if not don't bother

>>532790208
You will perish one day. The question is how you will use the remaining time that is given to you. Be the eternal consoomer, or the man of action, who took matters into his own hands?

>>532792027
Publisher for a lot of successful indie darlings, including our thread's soon-to-be-released GIMMIKO.
Like a second, smaller Devolver Digital.

>>532791874
DAYUM.
Well, I need to make 50k.
I think...
I think I can do it.

It's amazing how much money you can make with a solid game. Doesn't have to be legendary, it just needs to be solid. Decent. It works and it's fun. Million dollars.

Is there a binding factor/pattern you notice with these titles?

>>532791235
this nigga sounds like the blackest ghetto thug

>>532792272
Newfag.

>>532792351
What would getting my game published them give me?

>>532792180
I was here, I remember them posting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXXs0e-iRYs

This faggot yakubian monkey has been working on a 10min demo for 5 years just to bait a publisher, what a faggot coward sissy tranny whiteoid weakling homo. Seriously what a disgusting faggot who's scared of even trying and has to take the easiest possible path else he shits his pants, CRINGE.

>>532791558
I don't have substantial claim to my ability to produce a good game besides a half finished game and prototypes.
guys pitching to publishers at the ideaguy stage need credibility. years of work in a field, credits, an impressive portfolio.

And I'd need any publisher to sign a noncompete/NDA if I show a prototype.

>>532792749
looks like ass

>>532792670
No you don't, because those turdies only posted as they were about to release and stopped posting when /v/ gave them more attention. You know who else posted here just before release? Orteil when he was making Cookie Clicker, I guess it's /agdg/ game too.

>>532793063
They bothered to add an /agdg/ reference to their game.
Did Cookie Clicker do that too?

>>532792268
https://findingpoland.com/average-living-cost-in-poland/
around 30 years for a single person but it's a team, and the game has been in development for a decade
>>532792479
>Is there a binding factor/pattern you notice with these titles?
schizos crabbing

>>532791235
Don't make games that appeal to black people. Problem solved.

>>532793210
I don't know never played it, neither are /agdg/ and both got shat on for being whodev shills back then, it's funny to see historical revisionism even for something that doesn't matter at all.

Man, AI is great.

>>532793063
I was here when that happened too, I played cookie clicker when Orteil posted it here. I remember him posting when he got the Japanese fanart of his game. Then I posted about how I wish my game got Japanese fanart one day.
I have also played Imouto Petter.

>>532792524
How does 2k views on a twitter post sound like?

Friendly reminder that your game is no longer an /agdg/ game once it becomes successful. For your game to be considered an /agdg/ game, you must waste several years of your life going through the NGMI humiliation ritual of regularly posting the same tiny insignificant incremental soulful childlike changes to demo days over and over again without making any real progress.

>>532793463
>I don't know never played it
Well I did and it does. Just like Risk of Rain it has an /agdg/ reference in-game.

>>532793470
Was it necessary to state their ages?

>>532793463
Someone made that necromancer game recently. Forgot what it's called but it's a roguelite where you grow your army and clear random levels of roguelite stuff.

Whatever nodevs arguing
Ima listen to my comfy album and go dev some
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqPoES9qZPQ

>>532792479
>Well, I need to make 50k.
you need a Star Knightess Aura
-scale success, or be in the top 30% most reviewed agdg games.

>>532793542
Yeah I remember that, I guess the faggot who made the list didn't like Orteil so he didn't put cookie clicker in while putting valhalla.
>>532793741
Ok nice, valhalla's artist attempt at marketing by posting here still doesn't make it an /agdg/ game tough.

>>532793560
I'll give you a 0% revenue share for that.

>>532794174

those sword effects are really cool

>>532793741
>it has an /agdg/ reference in-game
I'm new here, what are some /agdg/ references I can put in my game?

>>532793995
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3199360/Skull_Horde/

This? I played the demo it's fun.

>>532794323
the logo is enough

>>532794323
Just have the aggydaggy logo as an item or background object somewhere.

>>532789912
Give the shankbot some stupid mascot horror face and make everything dark, you're never gonna get those streamers if they can't make a clickbait preview image out of your game.

>>532794174
I found the one I remembered

>>532794621
Can't believe it's been 10 years already, I remember Orteil was posting some weird infinite nested text based web game before cookie clicker.

>>532766549
mirin
Did you draw all that?

>>532794357
That's the one.

>>532793463
Was this from the guy who made Deadbolt?

>>532796426
No it was from the guy that made Risk of Rain

>>532794619

only some levels will be dark. most of the game will be bright and colorful and pastel.

i got banned from the aggydaggy steam group in 2015 and i've held this grudge against the inner circle since

>>532798606
If you've been around since 2015 and still haven't made it yet, you should only be holding a grudge against yourself.

rip

>>532793663
If you use the change request form on made-by-agdg.vercel.app and submit your game. I'll probably just add it with little to no due diligence. Now anyone can be an agdg game

>>532798779
i was underageb& back then but i am still working on my game. i will make it solely in spite of slow banning me

>>532798606
What did you do for them to do that?

>>532794009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNoGvMVt6JM
let's go

>IMPORTANT NEWS
i'm making a demake of my own dream game. reducing all the features to the bare minimum and doing it in crislike 2D instead of painstaking 3D.

>>532799090
Big if true.

>>532799028
be annoying and hardly a dev which to be fair i would've banned my ass too.

>>532794357
>>532796228
unless he adds 10x more content for different builds he won't reach the potential of a necromancer game
the demo builds are too similar

>>532794582
an earlier version of my character is in there :-D
no.9 Blondy

>>532779348
based

a mysterious benefactor has saved my game

it's FUARKING over...

>>532799874
game?

>>532800441
This game. Shes a recurring character I keep using in all my games, she's evolved over the years.

>>532800273
woooooow, you.... MOVE FORWARD!1!??!

i am in need of a million dollar game idea.

My game will have accurate ventilation equipment

>>532801253
I have multiple, but I realized even if I gave someone one they wouldn't know what to do with it and how to develop it into what it is

>>532800739
nice, it's sad when you think about all the abandoned designs that just rot in archived folders over the years.
someone cared and designed those characters..

>>532800739
goyslop

I've been trying to make a Final Fantasy clone because I thought it seemed like a good stepping stone before I try making my own game, because I have a few ideas for turn-based games I want to make, and maybe I'm just retarded but I can't believe how much difficulty I'm having in just making a basic menu that's controller-compatible and feels consistent from the main battle menu to the item menu/magic menu or whatever.

>>532792268
>>Peripeteia: $649.9k
EXCUSE ME WHAT
how the fuck did you estimate this trannycoded slop earned so much, IT HAD 236 ALL TIME PEAK PLAYERS, IT FLOPPED

>>532766215 (OP)
>deindexing
wtf, they should just implement an exclusion filter. tired of seeing horror and porn when i click new or popular

>>532801963
?

it's the most culturally relevant game produced by aggydaggy in 7 or 8 years

>>532801963
>Gross revenue: $991.4k ($649.9k - $1.3m)
That's the low end estimate...

>>532801963
This, he’s still here. That means he didn’t get promoted to the yesdev community.

>>532766215 (OP)
Well this fucking sucks

>>532800273
What if a game where you just move forward? That’s easy and gets the feel across.

>>532800273
SOVL

I don't understand why rigify ik stretch is on by default
I doubt most people using it do cartoonish animations

Do indians not know that Skyrim exists?

>>532801536
Her most recent design. She's a part of a world I've been building on for years with other characters I've mostly kept the same through the years.

>>532801663
Maybe its riding the bandwagon a little bit, but I like the genre and the funds from this will help me make the proper game I have planned for all the characters.
Good way to introduce the world and characters to people too without any big stakes or story beats too.

>>532802564
Slopelike endless runner working title 'To the Castle'

>>532802808
you should be ashamed of yourself

>>532802787
Skyrim sucks. Everything is grey and white. The towns are small and there’s no giant slopes.

>>532803141
I'm not in the slightest.

>>532791874
>all shit games

>>532803590
all transcoded as well. take notes.

>>532803686
>transcoded
what's that?

>>532803068
Endless runners were popular so it’s a good idea.

>>532801963
>600k split among like 10-20 people
Yeah, it is a flop. For 10 years of dev, community building and excessive shilling on /v/ and to just barely get 1k reviews... That's not very good.

>>532803686
You either make shitty tranny slop to make money, or you make a good game and make no money... Grim my man...

>>532802107
>culturally relevant
fucking HOW? it's astroturfed,
>>532802134
this can't be fucking real
>>532803841
REMEMBER
1,332 people (147 professional roles, 1,185 thanks) with 1,374 credits.
this is 4000 bucks per person, assuming an even split

>>532801963
>trannycoded
Lilith (she/it), right? This is Daryll (he/him) from Dr. Grubenstein's AIDS Rehabilitation Center. Your preferred contact method on discord.com is no longer available, and your mother told us to find you here. You have an appointment at 12:15 PM this Monday afternoon. Please remember that we have a 24 hour cancellation policy and that any further no-shows will be billed directly to your family account.

>>532803775
It's where you occupy space in someone's head without paying any rent.

https://vocaroo.com/1e5nsdhNVl77
probably using this for the first level with commandos

>>532803590
RoR and Deadbolt made far more than that with their vita/ps4 ports

>>532804221
I had no hopes of getting a real answer

>>532804153
>if you backed the game you get a $4K payout
damn why didnt i get on this scheme earlier

>>532804153
not sure if bait or profound mental retardation

Guys I used AI voice acting in my game... Can you not shit on me for it please?

>>532803154
>there’s no giant slopes.
Skyrim is nothing but giant slopes you climb with the spiderhorse

>>532800273
>>532802564
You could do a CYOA type game that's on rails. Character autowalks down the path and you hit events and forks in the path that let player input stuff.

AI gen all the art since people who want this clearly are fine with AI generated shit.

>>532801901
menu navigation without mouse is a pain to make if you got any sort of even semi complex menus

>>532805015
If you search Peripeteia on KiwiFarms, you almost immediately find people discussing the Peri schizo as a noteworthy retard. He's probably going to become a full-fledged with forumfags tracking him down if he keeps this up.

>>532804153
>147 professional roles
peripe had that many people work on it?

>>532805407
The Peripeteia schizo isn't real. It's a marketing tactic by the developers to astroturf their game.
I can tell you for a fact that there were multiple IPs both shitting on the game and defending it in their threads.

Production of the assets for the game is going great

>>532805407
Full-fledged lolcow*, had a brain fart while typing.

Most of your games will fail

Mine will succeed

I'm not sorry. That's just the way of the world.

>>532805748
Fail in what way
Succeed in what way

>>532805548
>that many people
>still looks and plays like total shit
This is the best /agdg/ can do? This is the fucking shit this general praises? Lmao.

>>532804417
"something"-coded is a stupid slang to describe that it feels or looks like a certain thing, that it has the touch of that thing
in the case of "transcoded" it means it's similar to transgender-produced or transgender-loved things

>go to Youtube in hopes of finding a good GameMaker tutorial to get started
>videos are either outdated, full of mumblers, or offer no troubleshooting whatever assuming their method will work without a hitch
>learn about GameMaker's manual
Holy shit what a difference, the manual's great in this case. Maybe now I can fix my wraparound issue.

my game will make me a lolcow

>>532805898
financially, substantially, culturally, and spiritually

>>532805140
Someone do this

>>532805984
alright thanks

>>532805140
>>532806215
>CYOA
> you 1) walk forward 2) walk forward or 3) stand still
wooooooow

>>532806037
I've always been saying that GMS2's documentation is its strongest suit without a doubt. Godot could learn a lot.

>>532806446
1) walk forward

>>532806037
why learning gamemaker at this point in time?
Godot is plenty mature enough and enough tutorials and features to make it easy for newer devs?

>>532806206
What a relief. I was worried it might be talking about the games failing girlfriend-wise.

>>532806551
Listen sis i'm not that anon but I use godot myself and let me tell you it's not really that great, game maker remains king of easyness. Godot WILL require you to fuck around at some point and if you're a godot dev you'd know that.

>>532806446
>having choices is bad because it just is okay?

>>532806551
gamemaker is for people who can't program

>>532806952
And gamemaker won't?
like name 2 gamemaker games without programming that made it since 2020.
>year requirement
Yes, gamers standards rise with time.

>>532805124
90 degree slopes aren’t giant slopes.

>>532806446
You lack imagination.

>>532806446
You can choose to go right or left too actually. All paths lead up thoughbeit.

>>532807172
to make anything worth anything you need to learn how to program in gamemaker.
At this point might as well jump to Godot.

Refactored the entire level object definition structure, got rid of the union stuff that anon called retarded (it was, I agree now) and am now simply storing an enum (type) and void* for each object in the level definition. Also vehicle definitions are now saved as files on disk, in the future I will probably create a vehicle editor for editing these. This refactor now makes it possible to save a texture file path along each polygon definition so maybe tomorrow I can start working on polygon texture loading and mapping.

>>532805594
Bro it's 3d why your character look like he got flattened in one of those walls closing in traps?

>>532807827
finally another good game

>>532807827
Great work as always. You work fast.

>>532807798
>to make anything worth anything
what about just having fun?

>>532807189
>gamers standards rise with time
and this is why game maker isn't valid in 2025

>>532791874
I could've made 9+ million in 2023 but I played it too safe at the last moment (investing)
Pretty cool that people, especially on 4chan, managed to do that by making something
I often point out this place is proof people can learn new things in their spare time, never mind learn in a way that pays-off

>>532805367
Well at least it's not just a me issue then. I always assumed it would be a solved problem just because it's the kind of thing that appears in so many different games in some form or another, even games that aren't menu heavy still have main menus and pause menus and the like after all.

>>532806037
Game Maker barely gets updated, how can it be outdated?

>>532805594
Sovl

>>532808157
>menu move up and down
ok
>menu move left and right
ok
>menu move in a grid
ok
>combine the any of the above with the amount of choices not mapping neatly in a grid and it quickly becomes a nightmare

>>532805367
Is this a joke? Consoles have solved it forever.

>>532807172
Yeah I admit to that, I'm a guy that can't program. I'm an artist that just wants to make some games like the ones I enjoyed playing UFO 50.

console gamers should not be game developers

>just make it exist, you can make it good later
So why am I not allowed to use AI to make my game exist, so I can later come back and replace the AI stuff if I get the money?

>>532809081
do what you want and fuck the haters!

>>532807836
sigh
fine

>>532809081
kill yourself shitspammer

>>532809081
Use AI, but have a bit of tact about it.
Use it cleverly, make the results consistent as possible, make good game.
Far harder for haters to hate.

>>532809081
You don’t make games or have any game.

>>532809284
your game is now banned from visa mastercard

>>532809353
>>532809287
I will rape and kill you tonight.

is AI really that bad?

>>532809284
nice knife

>>532808638
ok provide the solution

Let's get it guys. I'm rushing against a deadline. Lend me your strength prease :)

>>532809287
Deranged looney troon.

>>532809726
AI is great if you can't tell it's AI
everyone thinks AI is bad because they only notice the bad AI

>>532810013
lol ngmi

>>532809698
youre going to reference me in your suicide note

>muh reddit hates indie devs, all my posts get deleted or downvoted
>check their reddit posts
>"pls wishlist here is the link: httpsteampowered/n1003R
Gee I wonder why

>>532810673
not much worse than the other reddit posts

At least one agdg poster has killed himself because I told him to

that fills me with immense satisfaction

>>532810506
>projecting
Forgot to take your HRT pills tonight, faggot bitch?

player, coin, and crate are all on the same layer so the player is y-sorted when moving above them
but I want to hide coins under crates, which means having them all on the same layer is not possible
what do?

it's too quiet...

>>532810727
I remember someone posting a link to his suicide stream once. Wonder if he was told to do it

>>532810807
You spawn the coin when the crate is opened/destroyed
you can also hide it while the chest is closed via .visible on the root node or on the sprite node.

>>532810727
you need to cultivate that power so we can clean up the thread

>say peripeteia sucks
>the entire thread immediately starts talking about killing themselves
Kek

>>532811405
turns out all those people who worked on it are here in the thread

we should be called peripeteia general

>>532810727
half the people here will be thinking of me while they dangle helplessly lmao

>>532810727
>>532811138
>>532811175
>>532811692
>samefagging

Dead /agdg/ Theory

>>532811172
thanks!

how do i get good at character design

>>532811776
>it's just the american timezone

>>532812010
>diathorn

>>532811775
I guess we found out who's next

I still don't like the game. I'm glad peri dev explained himself when I voiced some complaints and I feel like he understood my points regarding game design.
After that I went back to the game and tried to continue, I reached belgrade and wasted so much time trying to explore and find my way around but ultimately just had to quit once more.
Restarting, Save scumming, Trying to cheese my way around, Ultimately just running past things, it feels so counter to what peri dev told me, about wanting to not follow "industry design patterns" or whatever. And everyone called him based for that. I don't get it, this is not fun, I'm not feeling like I'm immersed in the world instead I just feel like I'm constantly figuring out just how to break the game in a way I get through the level. Is that really the game he was trying to make?

>>532812320
>doesn't deny his samefagging
Why though? Why would you samefag your own posts? To "impress" like what... 5 people?

>>532812662
>Is that really the game he was trying to make?
He and /agdg/ will probably cope by saying yes, but the reality is that he wanted to do "STALKER but by me", forgetting entirely that Stalker's jank wasn't intentional and was actually attempted to be minimised by the devs as much as they could.

>>532812662
Have you played Thief? I never trust anybody's opinions on game design or difficulty unless they have played it

>>532812896
>Have you played Thief?
NTA, but I have, and if you're gonna act as if this piece of shit is on the same level as Thief then you're fucking delusional, retarded or both.

>>532812874
I was going to mention stalker and how despite some jank I rarely got taken out of the experience. I wish Peri was more like stalker, as in, ... actually I won't elaborate, it's such a good idea I'll keep it to myself.
>>532812896
No I haven't. I love love love dishonred to death so It's on my short list. Also I was not talking about difficulty. The enemies on that level are not that hard. I tried more to falling.

>>532813115
I have never played peripeteia. I think it's reasonable to only listen to the opinions of people who've played both

>>532812896
NTA, but Thief is shit by 2025 standards. A modern gamer with modern gaming experience can figure out how to cheese the NPC AIs in just a few minutes, which will allow them to trivialize every level in an highly unfun manner. It is an outdated game and in an outdated genre that requires players that either don't understand how video games work or players who are willing to self-enforce extra rules.

https://youtu.be/3EG7krYP1h0&t=959
Some good topology tips I think. What does he mean by the helical loop cuts thing he says?

>>532813246
>I was going to mention stalker and how despite some jank I rarely got taken out of the experience. I wish Peri was more like stalker, as in, .
It's the typical "indie dev misunderstanding the retro games he's aping" issue. They tried to intentionally replicate the jank and problems of old Eastern European games unironically buying into the "le soulful" memes about them, completely misunderstanding what people meant by it.

>>532813246
>No I haven't
>I love love love dishonred to death
okay so you're not worth listening to. Come back when you've played the most important PC games
Any game developer in 2025 who hasn't beaten TDP and TMA is just not taking gamedev seriously enough. Don't expect to make money from this

>>532813615
I'm sorry anon, I'll go play it right now. Any more games I need to play before getting my dev license?

>>532813494
brown fingers typed this

R.E.P.O. is the best Thief-like imsim of 2025.

>>532813615
>oh you havent played thief so you're not allowed to criticize my overpriced piece of shit
Nice going there, Shodanon. Real mature of you.

>>532812662
>>532812874
>>532813115
>>532813246
>>532813308
>>532813595
>>532813870
Where's your 1000 review Game?

>>532814093
appeal to sale fallacy

>>532814093
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3036080/Shawarma_Legend/

>>532814169
so you're saying Tower of Kalemonvo and Into the Necrovale might be bad games?

I've gained 80 pounds since new years. My apartment is a fucking pig sty. I regularly go 1-2 days without sleeping. Fuck my life I'm such a useless failure.

>>532814438
Honestly don't worry about anything other than sleep, permanent brain damage is not funny

>>532814385
but anon, Sewer of currymongrel IS a bad game

>>532814385
Maybe? I haven't played them, their genres don't interest me at all, so I wouldn't know.

I feel the need to do every part of my game otherwise I don't feel like its my game

I ran my overview past some people and the consensus was that it could be good but probably not from me, should I move to the next step

>>532805548
>>147 professional roles
WHERE ARE YOU NIGGERS SHOW YOURSELVES

>>532814764
If you didn't write the programming language or the operating system that your game runs on top of, then it's not your game.

>>532814591
I don't get it

For Thief gold, do i go with standard, hard or expert diff?

I can't code. What sort of game is an achievable goal for me in 2 years? Not pong, I mean like an actual game.

Gamedev is fucking amazing. You start with NOTHING and from it you can create a real SOMETHING that people can enter and experience

>>532815325
I also can't code yet am making a complex game, use cursor.

>>532815325
You can't write or draw or model or make music either. Give up.

>>532815310
Expert if you're familiar with other games from that time
otherwise Hard
what are you a baby?

I've picked up drawing with pen and paper but how do I convert that into something digital to be used in a game

>>532812218
he traces from real children btw

>>532815789
You don't. It's unusable. Random doodles are not game-ready sprites.

>>532815658
I very low key value my time and know for a fact that most game's hard mode's only diff is more of my time being wasted. But it seems like expert is the way to play and it's old and therefore easy. But then again people are saying it changes how the game is being played.

>>532815503
I have no idea what cursor is.
>>532815535
Those are the only things I'm remotely good at.

>>532816016
>Those are the only things I'm remotely good at.
Post some. We'll be the judge of that.

>>532816016
>is good at all art
>doesn't know he can gain coding skills with a button click
Two paths for this anon, I don't even need to spell it out.

>>532815961
Holy based.

>>532815964
yes what im saying is how do I convert this skill into a digital version

I'm writing a procedural system to generate 256 anime girls using danbooru tag and chat gpt anime stories.

>>532816451
First, figure out what kind of game(s) you want to make. Go study what kind of art those games use. e.g. If they are 2D, then go look at the sprite sheets used in those games: https://www.spriters-resource.com/. Specifically, study the specifications and constraints those sprites were created under, like resolution, framerate, line width, color palette, any shading or dithering, etc.

>>532816578
I'm writing a manual system to generate 1 anime girl using my brain and faerie stories.

>>532816114
Here’s a picture of my friend's cat I doodled while at work. It’s not my best work but it’s the only example I could find on my phone.

funny when crabs got mocked and the first thing they do is deflect and claim the dev is doing it
nigga you do not matter, everyone is laughing at you because you can dish it but can't take it, like usual you are one of hundreds and just a blip on our radars

avg indie brainrot
>man I am so good at [insert skill, art, programming, writing]
>how do I use these skills to just like make game
Holy fucking shit guy get a grip, this is not how you start making a game.
The first thought should always start with
>man I really want a game to exist that does [insert idea you would like to play yourself]

>>532817139
just try to draw digitally and see for yourself

>>532817582
Is this a good or a bad thing?
>>532817842
I have an old Wacom tablet I got for really cheap (not one of the ones with a screen, just a flat pad) and I really dislike drawing with it. I hate having to learn all the different brush types and the interface of drawing software (I use Photoshop because I get it for free from work). It's so many layers of mystified shit that only serves to get in the way of the drawing process. But I understand that if I even want to make a game I'm going to have to learn it.

>>532817807
wheres my brown loli model kannadev?

>>532817564
Anybody that thinks they're good at anything surely will be humbled by game development. If starting out hasn't filtered you, maybe the trial and error phase will. Drawing an illustration isn't the same as drawing one that will be used in a game...

>>532817564
>everyone else must think exactly like me and have the exact same priorities and take the exact same approach to something as open ended as game development and doing anything else is wrong
Have you ever received a formal diagnosis for your autism?

>>532818535
Well sure but my point assumes even god level skill, take these programmers for example, insane indie game where [insert highly complicated system, either cool sword slash dismemberment tech or enemy movement inverse kinematics tech or spiderman tech] but the actual game is shallow.
>>532818901
>that's just like your opinion bro
Thank you for sharing your feelings on this matter, please now also share your argument.

>>532819197
>please now also share your argument.
The argument is in the post. Game development is open ended. There's no set starting point, no best practice for making a game, and once you've started making it you can branch off into a myriad of different directions to eventually reach the end goal of producing a video game. What you're describing is your preferred method, but that doesn't make it the best method for everyone.

>>532817139
>>532818368
You got some solid foundations, but it sounds like this advice >>532817048 also applies to you. Game art and animation has far more technical constraints than a postit doodle.

>>532818368
>Is this a good or a bad thing?
Good

made one running animation, on to another 5 for 8-directional shooting
...

multiplayer car painting

>>532819640
>You can accidentally stumble across a good game by just starting
I don't disagree, it is how many classics have been conceived. I'm just making clear how more often than not it results in a shallow game. And I explained why.
I do not think it's statistically a good idea and I would argue that if you as a dev don't know what kind of game you want to make and only want to play with tech or art, then you should just not make games.

>>532819932
>fag
>fren
>free cock / free cunt
>free candy
a rollercoster of a video.

>>532820159
free car

>>532766215 (OP)
what ever happened to loli rape sim?

>>532820159
>>532820418
>t. zoomers
Any millennial oldfag would've know immediately.

>>532820487
I absorbed him.

reminder to set itch's revshare to 0%

>>532820746
Not like anyone would pay to play my prototypes

>>532770719
Found the reeing pedophile.

>>532819608
AAAIIIEEEE

>>532793470
Anon you're meant to age them up to 18 so you have an excuse if itch/steam bans you

>>532768619
>change the law
but the law is already on the side of itch/steam/etc
being a pussy that rolls over to get fucked when you get dicked around by assholes isnt something another law can fix, you have to actually stand up for yourself to bring the law into effect

why aren't you making a kino game like this?

>>532822992
>flying above the trees
>fire is the same size as the tree
It sucks.

>>532822992
Use better AIs.

>>532822992
this whole thing is proof that AIjeets dont have the creativity required to succeed as a dev

computer, generate a 3d model of a hyper realistic little girl wearing a bikini

>>532822992
imagine being so low in the totem pole even your AI slop is a worse copy of another AI slop

i don't feel good honestly.
i'm kinda tired from this development.
i hope i'm not burning out.
i will keep going though

>>532823627
Why are they good at dronework like outsourcing? Are some people meant to be cattle? But then again, a lot of company heads exist.

if i make a game entirely in latin with no translation (including dialogues and UI), will people play it? will they be able to figure out what's going on?
even the numbers will all be roman numerals

>>532815325
A beat'em'up like little fighters 2. a metroidvania. an fps game.
They won't be amazing, and might be out of your reach if you won't put 8 hours every day into it. but hypothetically.

>>532823735
You'd have to onboard the player to the language a bit. The UI being latin as well seems bad. Full game seems fine.

>>532822714
NTA but that wouldn't be of any use since it's incest regardless of age

>>532824034
There are hundreds of mainstream games on steam with incest, they don't make incest their primary selling point though
Like all the map painting games

>>532823735
Depends on how good your Latin is. Which pronunciation system do you use?

I can't believe Visa and Mastercard are against kino love stories such as these...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julien_and_Marguerite_de_Ravalet

>>532823735
literally anyone who has ever read the bible would moron

Looks like my code works just fine on the new computer. Maybe I'll have an hour or two to dev tonight and tomorrow.

Here is the repo
https://codeberg.org/FroggyGreen/om

>>532824379
That was actually better than what I was expecting

>>532823735
Ita! Linguam latinam disco!

>>532824379
wow... a story of incest, fr*nce, pre-mature marriage, forced marriage, a motherless child, and drunken abusive husband. french people are truly subhumans.

>>532825281
good to see you froggy, let's make something one of these days.

>>532825607
>french people
that's just europe thougheverbeit

>>532825607
Why does this read like a sadpanda tag list

>>532825607
>t. uncultured

I made pong... now what

>>532826610
Why are you guys suddenly into incest now?

>>532826998
>suddenly

>>532826967
Make your dream game obviously

>>532826967
Post it with a webm

>>532826998
>suddenly

progress

if he makes the dog her brother, we will reach peak degeneracy

And here is a test of the cubes and terrain on the new computer. Making sure everything with Vulkan is working a-okay.

>>532826310
okay ...

>>532827325
reported.

conscripte patres, ignosce jankicus
i started this a week ago for fun, to make something small and limited to commodore 64 palette and 320x200 resolution, so far i am having a lot of fun
>>532823862
good point; we shall see..
i feel like i might be able to squeak by if there isn't too much text and the UI words are at least somewhat relatable to their english equivalents.
latin is the basis for half the languages in the world so maybe i can get away with it?
i feel like committing to the bit is more important for this project than making it entirely comprehensible. alea iacta est...
>>532824331
googilivs translatio vtor, claudivs optimvs maximvs quoque
>>532825576
salve amici! bene..

>>532777618
hahahaha! Nice!