Thread 2117178

/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

If you see a gibberish post, it was made by raiders, ignore it.

No, Vic 3 is not good yet. In fact it never will be. Neither will EU5.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This week in history:
August 10, 1920 – World War I: Ottoman sultan Mehmed VI's representatives sign the Treaty of Sèvres that divides up the Ottoman Empire between the Allies.
August 11, 1804 – Francis II assumes the title of first Emperor of Austria.
August 12, 1964 – South Africa is banned from the Olympic Games due to the country's racist policies.
August 13, 1900 – The steamer Deutschland of Hamburg America Lines set a new record for the eastward passage when it docked on Plymouth, England, five days, 11 hours and 45 minutes after sailing from New York, breaking by three hours, six minutes its previous mark in its maiden voyage in July.
August 14, 1791 – Slaves from plantations in Saint-Domingue hold a Vodou ceremony led by houngan Dutty Boukman at Bois Caïman, marking the start of the Haitian Revolution.
August 15, 1261 – Michael VIII Palaiologos is crowned as the first Byzantine emperor in fifty-seven years.
August 16, The naval Battle of Lake Baikal was fought between the Czechoslovak Legion and the Red Army.

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>Where to get these games
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>Mods
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>>[V2] - Niggermod
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>>[V2] - Crimeamod
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Previous thread: >>2110169

theyre not countries but societies of pops but since youre all retards that just want to seethe over nothing you wouldnt know or care about the difference

we live in a society

good op btw
but why start the week on a sunday?

not for long

it's an american thing you wouldnt get it

i knew there was something wrong with poles

wrong? being scythian is a good thing

someone should make a good gsg

johan already made victoria 2 and the other johan is making a victoria 3

victoria 3 is the gsg equivalent to windows vista

without vic2 there would be no new /gsg/

i used vista and it's much better than victoria 3
vista at least served its purpose outside of being majorly bloated

i honestly wish program and software could go back to 2010 back then things just fucken worked

i will make a good gsg once ai can realize my ideas
imagine /gsg/ but everyone is grandi tier poster
>shilling our own games to each other
>having melties over which game is better
vghh

got a new vasallski with a new full missiontree but i dont want to play further

>memegame2 be like
>what the flying fuck? did you just declare against an opm because he failed to pay his debt in time? all of the worlds great powers must intervene in your warmongering and it'll be 1v99 kiddo
explain this shit vic2babs

*makes shit up*
woah....man it really do be like that huh

>doesn't even know the mechanics of his own favorite junk
memegame2 apologist everyone

not clicking that video but the osmans had a really good system to prevent their soldiers raping

>mohammad
>@margbaramrika
lol

me on the bottom
used to carry around a mop and pretend its my spear and im a roman

what about rome obsessed trannies

are you okay pepecuck?
I laughed...

now how about taking that ruhr

brazil is an absolute monarchy

99
not taking that, this is a colonial game with a focus on zuidafrika

not falling for it
i fell for it once as france and had to constantly defend egypt

>>2117178 (OP)
Im playing vic2 as china unmodded, but im not getting any research points from conquering vietnam, korea, and johore, what gives?

>>2117214
I enjoy the fact that Ossetia is 15% - 0% in this image despite them actually being the last Sarmatians.

it's a joke image as the name of the author suggests

time to get a ruling party only upperhouse))))))
love the age of librulism

tranny dystopian era

The gachas shoulda killed /gsg/

they were weak

my cute boers are getting immigrants

keep the elections so you can go socialist

why would i go socialist???

all of this will be mine someday...

why would u play victoria 2 in 2025

why wouldn't you

cuz victoria 3 is out?

shittoria 3 is even worse than 2

then find a nice bridge to jump off of

make me faggot

post ur address

make me faggot

kiss me in prussia

fuck me in chinese suck my dick in turkish

faggots

cute..

luv mani
luv the father of greatness
'ate the demiurge
simple as

Rome finally converted to Christianity but at what cost

tiny little rome

imagine your gf named her vagina = prussia :OO

war crimes

I wonder what napoopan and his big booty boarders are up to these days

eu5 looks entirely uninteresting

will fecal matter posting make a comeback with this latest slop-drop?

do people really care for eu5? after so many bad games by paradox?

post otter 1984

eu5 is going to rock

you have to say it seven* the amount you said the opposite in previous OPs for it to work

thanks

>700
relatable

ayo this nigga watches wonder woman 1984

there are no niggers in /gsg/

nfag is mentally one

^projection

you mean you aren't one? weren't you the one using twitter-speak in either here or /big/ in one of your last freak-outs?

https://youtu.be/OBSt2FZZEz8?si=NdRTDqzeMjcNgKpl
albatross still making waves

where's the accompanying wall of niggertext?

that was some faggot spammer who was impersonating me

post otter 777

My favorite part about eu4 is losing my passion for a campaign halfway through the game once I realize how much of a boring slog lategame is and quitting it once I realize there's really nothing in my way

what are you on about chasing dozens of 100k stacks thoroughout the whole earth every single war is the most fun part of the game

what happened to the biggers anyway

sinking slowly into the earth one hopes

two of them joined the russian army and died
one of them is a crypto trillionaire now
the rest idk

nwo bloc eurasia
what a cause

crypto billions libertarians bow to the ghost of a fictional japanese character

a mother freakin tesla orbits the grlobe now !??? that is so coool !!!!! * poindexter emojicon*

didnt that happen like a decade ago
also fuck my life i forgot my coffee and now its lukewarm

i guess i'ma little behind the times back when gsg didn't stand for covert child abuse

we're for open child abuse only here
don't like it then get out

gladly man. God's judgment be upon you

reckon its time to admit that modern 4chan is just instagram/tiktok with a slightly old ui

what can we do to fight back against big cozy

simpsons porn ought to do it

so true :O

>>2117919
She looks like a Bogdanoff now.

>>2117919
>>2117919
>>2117919
average hre hater incel no lifer

who do i pla? (in warhammer)

prussia

make peace not warhammer

peace is for globohomo

can i get some historical turkish propaganda so i can make fun of a pathetic, moneyless, black greekoid manlet

theres a little greek at the bottom

>kara boga
doesn't exist

write a 300 word essay on why his statement is false

a 300 word essay on why his statement is false

>>2117200
Jewish people consider Sunday the start of the week. And also most Americans for some reason. It's very infuriating but not the worst they do when it comes to date and time management.

gee i wonder why americans emulate jews in all ways and manners
its almost like they worship them or something.....

>Imperator Rome
Just absolutely, utterly, totally and completely go FUCK the AI and their infinitely respawning mercenary stacks and infinite cheated manpower.
Hey, you finally amassed a 40k levy stack out of central germania? Hah, go fuck yourself, here are 50k magical mercenaries I've recruited in from all over the world to defend my 3-man tribal defense league with a total of SIX territories and 14 pops between them. Hope you like it, EVERY INSIGNIFICANT WAR YOU EVER FIGHT WILL BE LIKE THIS!!!
Niggerfaggot devs I swear to god if I ever meet a swedish person IRL I will rip their fucking spine out.

weird, i thought american culture was centered around niggers

now try invictus mod after they made the ai better

people always say that invictus is the hpm of imperator so if i'd play that game i wouldn't use it

>>2118091
... and what other standard has there ever been, other than the jewish one? tell us, who else had any authority to determine that the 'first' day of the 'week' should be anything other than sunday?

new whiteness map just dropped

build a wall around those regions and in 2 years 60% of the population is dead

dont even bother just nuke those regions

dont do that i live there

what does southern france produce other than wine

if whiteness is high gdp then i wish i was brown

they produce niggers

nigs are just the upper caste of the country
whitey is the slave caste

fug

what the fuck

ancient finno invasion if india

barbarians in this game are so useless, you can just wait for them to kill themselves to attition and occupation

>>2118132
>Catalans
>White
Literally the jews of the Iberian Peninsula.

wouldn't that be the Sephardim?

smell of pusci

i think eu5 will hit me upon first engagement. i had a greentext list of things that perturb me about it. but when eu4 released it was like magic. i can't help but feel that eu5 will be analyzed (by me) as a jaded 30 year old and not with the same grandeur or mystique as before. still i have a burn up of 8 or 9 'wildslopes' thanedom general pics on my desctop
only Thane can bring it to fruition (you shall know them by their fruits). fruits

some niggardly gent said the future of gsg would be infighting about whose niggardly gsg were the better. i agree. my (humble) prayer is the same. i prayed for a season that c o h 3 would be a polished turd so youe never know. you know i don't care if someone has a lisp. God invented bier for a reasons (and jim beam)
https://youtu.be/PnRe70XlWDw?si=AHWFFWABXxPayJbP

nothing herts like falling in love with a trans-sexuel. 1000 herts (steve albini (pedo))

front page of vst sucq our post front page reality gs g dicque

good riddance, faggot

ahaha imagine deleting everything with sincere heart. imagine deleting chris. coot

your playthru is lame, no one is expanding that image. not even me

lord lambeet spits on /gsg/

lambert*, pbuh

>heh, i will make him pull his ethernet cable, or post on phone
please do

yeah no one likes you, your posts bring nothing to this general
go ban evade some more

i just did the accent challenge on my vocaroo. my speaker mic ceased working on this phone
>no one likes you
imagine this is the sickest burn you can come up with. little queer

it's still more coherent than anything you post
you're so retarded you can't even write two whole sentences without your short term memory short-circuiting

you act like i want anything to do with your rancid butthole. i love you. retard (politely)

https://youtu.be/2FEX6sjYBhc?si=6sHnNk9yO2QRKqI5
enjoyed ur eurobeats
i think they upp'd my apm
more?

it's not a burn, it's the truth
ignore that guy he's interjecting into the conversation and not me
no one likes you

bummer. i'm gold

and yet your own reportfaggotry has caused you the need to ban evade
funny, how it is a double edged sword and exactly the reason why no one else in this general but you reports

>demons taught me to neg
>i like erect cock
keep it to yourself

you're supposed to use greentext to quote, not to say statements about yourself

you can only send so many love letters before love starts to fade
today's lesson

>enjoyed ur eurobeats
>i think they upp'd my apm
>more?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzd2AYsD6vk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9p62_nUn5Y

respekky

do not reply to raiders

ok boss

currently playing: weebshite

which one

sc2, tipsy
sucks

feels like playing eu5, shirtless like lamb
utterly stupid

kek thanefaggot got a little butthurt earlier it seems

he had to go try and stab deep and personal heehee

ill go eat some pasta

for me, it's potatoes
truly the wonder vegetable

2 retarded sons

do you think your dad would appreciate you saying that about you and your brother

eu5 is going to rule

i cringe at the way americans would pronounce burger

i cringe at the idea of americans naming their foods after completely unrelated european cities
hamburger has nothing to do with germany
banana split has nothing to do with croatia

haemburgah

or the korean version: hambaga

>banana split has nothing to do with croatia
why are you bringing up croatia in this

banana is a town in croatia

i'm going to doubt that this famous fruit was named after a town in one of the humble balkanshitter countries

and i was right, it's based on some arab word

i really like how this guy is acting all high and mighty yet doesn't know basic geography, so he doesn't understand the joke. makes it more funny than the joke itself

split is an autonomous city state in sichuan wdym

>3 different uses of the same noun in one paragraph
>one even unnecessarily capitalized to throw you off
comedy gold

zZzZz... h-what? oh, you told a joke? great... forgot to laugh...

of course you didn't. you're too stupid to get it

your mom said my grossgermania is grosser than yours

of course
a germania cannot be too groß, it has to be tastefully large
for example annexing prague and brno is a mistake. take ony sudetenland and keep the rest of czechia as a puppet

eu5 when
i want to give paradogs my money

just buy dlcBLOATversalis4 and all the dlc bloat that comes with it

already did

fuckin' diiiieee die die die kill 'em all KEEL KEEEEL

that's not a grandi strategy game

reminder to preorder eu5 for the preorder bonus !!!1

wtf bad word

i am a preorder... preorderer.... i am a preorderer... pidor.... preorder... pidor.... i preorder. i pidor. i am preorderer.... i am pidor.

you okay kid?
lay off the russian

lol look at the deleted posts, it's only the nonsenposter that got deleted
of course it's him that pretends to look forward to eu5

take your meds schizo

make me kike

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jIQQANQHEY
listening rn (d)v__v(b)

>>2118815
why was this post deleted?

reminder that eu5 will be better than eu4 and that will make you mad
wiz lost

why would that make me mad

why would it make me mad?
why pretend it's some weird conflict of andersson vs. andward? they're both the sides of the same coin and haven't made a good game/mod in many years

why was my post deleted?

why not?

because that post was on-topic and general culture
besides the janitors ought to have good reasons for deleting posts

reminder that his public execution is tomorrow

johan will never die so long as i still hold him in my heart

the janitor's? i'd pay to see it

ok but do you have the image of him at a game store in sweden wearing an anime shirt?
i lost mine with the previous hard drive

no

how can you claim to love him if you don't even have the image of him at a game store in sweden wearing an anime shirt?

this but unironically
the image used to be posted constantly here on /gsg/ but it looks like it's ancient history now
can't believe someone could be a newfag to a general for a genre that hasn't had a good game released in 10-odd years

never said i loved him just said he'll never die as long as he's in my heart.

that doesn't sound healthy
he could block the blood flow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wax1rmvnoDs
huh, i always thought "der judenstaat" was just a silly little event in victoria 2 that have all the jews extra consciousness

he is right you know...

that's not johan that's a bosnian construction worker

it's spelled "bosniak"
but that is indeed not johan. johan never, NEVER, wears a watch

thats only for the ethnic bosniaks

iraniak
kazakhstaniak
germak
british

croatiak
serbiak
montenegriak

mountain bantu

>>2118865
no, eu5 has way too ugly ui. just keep it eu style

bosian
spanian
green

bosniak
polak
basedjak
parasist-ACK

eu5 is gonno be epic

i am *checks notes* not a pedophile
how about them grossgermaniums

are you a hagophile

i am a *checks notes* not a pedophile

>>2117178 (OP)
>No, Vic 3 is not good yet. In fact it never will be.
What? Vic 3 is great right now. Charters of Commerce did wonders for the game.

Shut the fuck up faggot. Talking about games you never played

>>2119210
genny is entirely made up of third worlders who can't afford a PC that runs vicky 3.
They could just admit it and be honest about it. You know, say "I can't run victoria 3 so I don't know if it's good or not", but no. Their slav blood compels them to lie constantly. They HAVE to lie about the game.

enjoy your game where germany never forms and literally nothing gets done without player influence
meanwhile i'll play good games

>Vic 3 is great right now.
>game still doesn't even let you control your military
>great
uh-huh... sounds good...

the lack of control of military could have been a great feature actually and could have allowed for simulation of low intensity and colonial conflicts
except paradox is so fucking incompetent they made this non-control more micro-intensive than actually moving troops yourself

or they could've went the DISTANT WORLDS 1 route and allowed the player to completely customize how 'automated' they wanted their game to be

your relics, lad! let us have 'em

yummy... the land will be slaked red with their blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1bRH-gEgu4

who was in the right here?

imagine needing a swede to tell you how to blob and enticing you with modifieres

from what i've seen it looks like 99% of eu4 players love the mission trees and can't imagine their game without them, same for hoi4, and same for ck3 expect it's not mission trees but enbloatment
maybe it's because they aren't vocal or just get filtered out and stop playing
every time i want to play eu4 it's 1.24 version since latest one is just unplayable perma claims nonsense

argumentum ad populum has got to be one of the worst

somewhere his blood is boiling

if we have all this fascism experts how come we're still not a fascist state
whats the point

the guy telling him to go play a railroaded board game is in the right

25
All they had to do was to make a system for assigning armies to a region without stopping you from controlling them.
Make it slightly inconvenient or expensive to move armies from continent to continent while still allowing you to mobilise your entire empire for the great war when the time comes.
Make it punishing to not have a certain number of soldiers garrisoned in a colony (maybe make that x amount of total soldiers of which y amount must be accepted pops) so that you can't just blob to recruit soldiers to use to immediately fuel conquests back in Europe. On the other hand, you can sacrifice the long term stability of your colonies for sorely needed manpower when push comes to shove.
Have supply lines be crucial, so you can't just march a stack across Russia or have your South Africa garrison beeline to occupy French West Africa without first laying the groundwork.
Make rebellions something other than just pops spawning armies that sit and siege a province: they could easily be something off-map which tanks output in a given area, again dependent on the garrison in the region; maybe if time goes on and the rebellion isn't rooted out by the abstracted off-map systems, they then begin to spawn on-map armies and province modifiers begin to fuck your aforementioned supply lines. Larger levels/periods of unrest on the home front can develop into dynamic civil wars a la soy4.
There are so many things they could have done instead of preventing you from controlling your armies at all.
I do understand what they were trying to accomplish with the warfare system - stop you marching doomstacks all over the map - they just took the laziest approach possible instead of investing in their AI or finally including logistics and supply lines in their ever-casualised product.

63
he should make another fable game

75
i don't think they took a lazy approach — they took the retarded approach
there is no need for any individual unit ai. just have individual theatres where you assign units and all the combat is done by variables and dice rolls. like those strategy flash games of old
best part of this system is that it's mechanically simple to design: all of you have to do to make it is let a single passionate autist on your team go wild and create all these different variables for different types of terrains, climates, supply access, units present and it would have given a nice illusion of warfare
but no, they chose a measure that still requires all the micromanagement of fronts, but none of the satisfaction of an epic battle killing 500k germans in one go

This place is my favourite MAP community

what are your favorite miners?
mine got to be sulfur miners

I don't disagree that their implementation was absolutely retarded beyond the decision to remove on-map units itself. When I say it was lazy, I am talking about the decision they took to go with the warfare system they did at all. I fully believe it was laziness that led them to taking that decision, and they proceeded to dig themselves deeper into that hole, making it the mess that it is, because it would have been too much effort to go back on it.
I do disagree with your assertion that there isn't any need for individual units. People who support this view like to talk about all of the other things you could be doing instead of micromanaging units, but the fact is that the game is painfully simple without it. Sitting watching number go up and playing cookie clicker with factories is literally pointless if you can't leverage that in the few wars where you're dialed in managing your armies and feeling like you're playing well. You're spending all that time building up to those moments and without those there's no incentive to give a shit about any of it in the first place.
It's like playing an RPG where you spend hours exploring, crafting, getting better gear and then, when you want to actually go into a dungeon, it's an auto-resolve button that just compares your stats and declares you win. It's flaccid and retroactively makes everything else feel pointless.

i'm a gold miner myself *picks nose and eats boogers*

oh i think vic3 is trash even if we ignore the combat
there is 0, null, none, nada simulation going on and nothing happens without player involvement which was one of the things that made liqqy magical

motey combat still the best

it's pronounced mote

if mote is any good why doesn't anyone ever post it in here

it's actually mote-eh with a german e at the end

think of how king johan would say it

has it uhhh expired yet

I fucking hate how they kneeled to chuds and went with population instead of dev

dev is disgusting

be real imperator pops barely qualify as pops

pop pop pop

watching germans drop

The pronoun influencer with massive white guilt likes pops too. It is not only for chuds.

think i said this before but i want a south korea simulator from like 1953-2010
it would be mostly a text-based game where you play as le spirit of the nation yet still have the cabinet and prime minister and whatnot affect what you can and cant do
the good thing about it would be all the decisions you can do to impact the nation, down to stuff like switching to hangeul, doing a kanji-hangeul mix etc which are usually just considered tiny details at best in other games and only mentioned once if ever

this but ddr simulator

how would dance dance revolution simulator even work

you play as honecker and you dance

like you could replicate historic korean economic development if you play good or you could just fuck up hard and become a 4th world shithole thats propped up by america and japan and that solely to act as a barrier to china
and you could focus on certain industries and pass laws to support them and the like and thus end up with burgeoning consumer electronics industries or the best semiconductor industry in the world or whatever
you would have a little leeway in althis too with stuff like sabotaging the north and killing its economy in the 70s to then strike in the 80s and force reunion, then you would have to deal with reunification which would be a multifaceted challenge that seriously impacts your economy and society for decades straight

>althis too with stuff like sabotaging the north
but that's historical, they just failed
>>>/wsg/5947813

sounds like retarded bullshit but whatever my point stands you would be able to do cool stuff like that(and succeed) and it would be the epicest stuff ever
now i just need to find a team of developers to implement my cool idea exactly as i want it

general lee got the call

^ weeb ^

who's the pronoun influencer

what?

and kill that yankee soldier

74
Lambert

what the fuck are you talking about, retard?

that danzig has then proceeded to form a supergermany with polish as accepted

it wanted to but the evil mod developer made it so you lose polish when you form germland

that's what you get for playing >H >P >M
crimeamod doesn't remove your accepted cultures
you can form romania as bukovina, germany as luxemburg and keep your accepted cultures

i thought meme mod removed ukrainian what culture does bukovina accept

luxemburg? how bout switzerland

russian

it accepts russian

stop cropping and show evropa

sorry i can't show that

you have to

now that the dust has settled, was this a good change?

it solved a problem, but in a really shitty way

that guy won't post uncropped screenshots because he doesn't actually play the game. look at this filenames
just ignore him

how would you solve it
smart guy

if the ruler is darkskinned shatter his realm upon death

1) simulate the difficulty of controlling a large realm
2) make the ai not retarded
3) make the ai care about its dynasty more than his cunt

cadet branches you RETARD

>1) simulate the difficulty of controlling a large realm
how would you do it smart guy
>2) make the ai not retarded
how would you do it smart guy
>3) make the ai care about its dynasty more than his cunt
how wwould you do it smart guy? (I can actually think of solutions for this 1)

i would just do it, because i'm smart

^

the larger problem in cicky games is that empires generally never fall apart unless they make factions so stupidly op no empires even get to form because they get dissolved on cooldown

they fall apart in crusader kucks 3 just fine

>game is so meme a capitalist income is entirely locked to the factories in his state or an aristocrat to his local rgo for that matter
what's even memer is that, craftsmen and clerks are basically "work from home" employees, since the factories only exist in an memeplane where the workers from every corner of a state can warp into these workplace
oh and they also have access to the stellar global market™ at the tip of their fingers (given their government has enough star mana ofc), free of shipping cost doesn't matter if it's from the other side of the planet, hell the goods actually just *transport behind them* instantly that's what so stellar about them.

ah, i thought the factories in memegame2 were built on provinces/partitions of a nation

ever heard of commuting?

that's not how you spell communism

seize the means of transportation

If one were to apply the standards he applies to vicky 2 onto other games...all games would be bad. Even outside of the genre of gsg. There is not a single good game if you have such high standards. Only vicky 2 comes close to them. Vicky 2 is that good that it almost fits impossible standards.

is he mad at memegame2 or is he mad at mememod removing meme cultures?

speak like a normal human being

Is he mad vexed at memegame2 or fuming ‘cause mememod’s yeeting meme culture?

>>2119519
Sad that they did not have a setting to disallow vassal holy wars. Hate vassal blobbing.

>>2119531
haven't played ck3 so i can't refer to its mechanics
>1)
more distant vassals have greater autonomy (freedom to declare their own wars both external and internal, much lower levy/tax contributions, maybe a harsh opinion penalty, increasing by orders of magnitude for foreign exclaves. have vassals able to support claimants of their choice as and when they occur - take ck2 adventurers, for instance: they could be the rightful heir and all of your vassals may have +100 opinion of them but when they come as adventurers none of your vassals give a shit, it's just a regular defensive war, business as usual.
harsh opinion penalties for foreign vassals and harsh unrest/tax penalties for ruling land of a foreign culture
>3)
firstly, longer term and more serious relationships between characters: too much of the game is repeatedly stacking positive opinion modifiers which wear off after a set amount of time and certain relationships like being brothers with claims on each other mean you're destined to want each other dead no matter how much you loved each other until you inherited even if you're kind, just, content, et cetera. make interactions have lasting and serious effects on whether a character likes you.
ai preference for dynasty members in most choices, in events take decisions that prioritise the dynasty over the stability of the country unless they specifically have traits that preference for good rulership (and make not taking them make the dynasty begin to dislike you more and more), easier access to alliances for dynasty members, better inheritance mechanics so you can divide up a large or distant realm neatly between family members (plays into the "difficulty of controlling a large realm"), instead of having "political concerns------------" modifiers for any bordering realms, have dynasty members eager to ally, make them want to carve up the land of that cousin everyone in the dynasty hates; the one who always sides with the church over the family.

yeah that's what I'm saying that sounds cool as fuck I'd love that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQmrZXewToE
reposting a classic

how come victoria 3 wasn't a fully designed and fleshed out game from the beginning
instead of wasting time reinventing all the sub systems for a fucking decade

you should ask why they still havent fixed the map over 2 years after release

>>2119666
checked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7PhrPbyIsE
v_v

tfw no /gsg/ tgf to grow old and raise kids with

what is a "tgf"

expecting a woman to have the same hobbies as a man is like expecting a beautiful snowy morning to be warm

a snowy morning being warm would make it shit even if the snow somehow didnt melt

If you see snow and it suddenly feels hot around you...this is how WW3 begins!

grooook is this trueee

When did this place become so retarded?

when you started touching yourself

big don will prevent war
he will trade 1 ukraine for nuclear dearmament

nda breakers have no morals
i bet he pirates dlc

you think if i make a day 1 mod changing the name back to kiew will i get banned?

ukrainian nationalism is fanned at this point exactly for the purpose of the annihilation of natural born ukrainians by their ruling class
so in a way lambert is directly complicit in a genocide

natural born?
as opposed to artificially born?

as opposed to vermin

>natural burn
>as opposed to
*turns off*

snarky effeminate replies are *saving* /gsg/

we need snarky effeminate posters
eu5 shall deliver them

>>2119953
Of course he is a western leftist. They love when Europeans die. If Ukraine "wins" the war and gets annexed by the EU he will call Ukrainians the n-word for not being pro-EU enough.

I just find it annoying because it's anachronistic.
I mean yeah I hate Ukrainians too but that's besides the point.

if it were the early middle period and lord lambert offered you a million dollar dowrry to give him your daughters would you take it

who?

top ranked t.io player

who?

he would've supported them better by simply going with the outcome where they get annexed instead of having them fed into the meat grinder

>number of posts made by thaneslop retard: sub 2 thousand
>number of good posts made by thaneslop retard: 0
damn...

lol harsh words for this soj-lambert

The average 17year old thin incel could beat him up

Arumba would crush this fuckers Skull against the wall

arumba would spend 30 minutes talking about how he would do it and then end the episode

I think Arumba ist the strongest EU4 Streamer If He hasnt killed himself yet

surrounded ohhhh noooooooo

KEEL KEEL
die die die diiiiie die

dominions 6 is cooler

taking the battle to them

carnage outside of their castle

but then the other guy attacks me
i had to retreat for a defense

last screenshot i took
i was getting restless and wanted to continue bleeding them into defeat

Imagine Dominions but in the real world. Ancient Era - Medieval Era - Atomic Era

thats just civ 7

>>2120260
most engaging goy4 gameplay be like

sorry, i don't speak niggerbabble

then why are you speaking in english
retard alert

because english is not niggerbabble, english is english

you speak english becuase its the only language you know
i spaek english becuase its the only languige you know........

you're typoing so hard you don't even know english at this point faggot

i think that was supposed to be on purpose

which wouldn't get him anything

watching Outlaw King (2018) rn
from that eu4 meme
holy shit, the cinematography is chef kiss so far

got a loycense to wotch that movie oy?

by my troth, kind knave, i need no seal nor steward’s leave, for mine eyes be free men, owing fealty to none but their own fancy.

>watching modernslop
>watching netflixslop
grim

for me it's kingdom of heaven (2005)
doubt anything of recent times holds up to that standard

wednesday is both modern and netflix and i'm pretty suure it's better than your shit

saturday is my favorite day, probably only a neet would choose wednesday over that

>Every day, RGOs and factories produce goods
>First dibs go to the domestic market, government hoards guns and canned food while POPs grab grain, booze, and fancy hats if they can afford it
>Whatever’s left is bought by the World Market Entity™, not any actual nations in the game
>Only then the Great Powers and their totally consensual sphere buddies can buy from the World Market Dealer™ at high priority
>Everyone else scraps for the leftovers
>Still got left over goods at the end of the day? World Market Entity™ yeets them into the void
>This ensures there will never be an Oversupply.

your gif is static sire

in liqqy 3 it's like
>have no tools
>want to make wood anyway
>subsidize logging camp
>logging camp now produces half the wood it would usually make and pays exorbitant fees to the void for the idea of tools
>nobody actually wants wood tho
>sell wood to the void for a quarter of it's usual value
>profit

what's with this guy hating on vic2 lately?
did queen victoria kill his irishman?

he's not wrong

yes, he is not wrong in what he's saying
he's wrong in hating vic2 for not being perfect at something no other game even attempted

what do you mean, there are other games that have handled pops and/or logistics

>>2120275
Shadow Empire

sure, name all those games about nationbuilding, colonization and industrialization in the 19th century that are 100% flawless

American Conquest Chronicles

that's just cossacks which is an rts
and i can already name a flaw: your men are robots who always follow your orders perfectly, magically see through thick powder smoke and never ever rout which completely ruins the school of bayonet
next

>never rout
Confirmed to have NEVER PLAYED American Conquest

no but i played cossacks

>>2120449
chatgpt

chatgpt has no object permanence

>sure, name all those games about nationbuilding, colonization and industrialization in the 19th century that are 100% flawless
none of the ones i have in mind are about 19th century because i don't give a shit about the 19th century, but...
>stellaris
>distant worlds 1
>factorio
two of those deal with pops and and logistics, although stellaris is logistics-lite, having only 'domestic trade' as the actual logistics, where if you don't put up patrol to reduce piracy along the trade routes from starbase and/or planets to your capital, then you lose those to 'piracy'
distant worlds 1 deals with logistics through and through, and pops too
if you don't mine the right materials you can't build all the components that are ingredients for your ships, or if you are barely harvesting any then you your shipyards are going to build very slowly
the abundance of luxury resources going to any of your planets make your pops of that planet happy which promotes growth and income
factorio, although not a game about nations, deals with logistics in the most obvious way and has long chains of manufacturing products and components

lol

did you seriously list stellaris and factorio as replacements for victoria 2? do you seriously consider them both beyond reproach? that's just laughable
i never played distant worlds so i cannot comment on that game

revolutionaries? in my germany???

we did it, we protected saxony the from the revolution

well since i don't like shittoria 2 i'm not even looking to replace it
it is a memegame afterall, which i have no qualms keeping my distance from, since other games are more interesting
needless to say, i don't even need to play a 19th century nation builder,
but if gilded destiny turns out good, i'll give that a try

you might not be looking to replace it but you got involved in a conversation about games that supposedly do everything victoria 2 does yet show absolutely no flaws under the scrutiny of a humorous greentext
if you have nothing to say then don't say anything instead of pretending the conversation was about something else

the only things memegame2 does of note is present some form of population and logistical supply and demand
the games i listed were listed because of those points being covered

that's a flawed way of thinking because victoria 2 provides so much more
and even if we reduce it down to those 2 arbitrary criteria stellaris falls short because those pops are about as real as eu4 development
factorio on the other hand represents population incredibly accurately, simply because there's only 1 man on the whole planet

>factorio on the other hand represents population incredibly accurately, simply because there's only 1 man on the whole planet
that man is just the ruler, the real pops are the inserters and the drones
the nation of robots, aka the factory you build
the roads are the conveyer belts and the food and water is the electricity

okay what are the bugs then

the poles

the bugs are whoever you want them to be
to me they are the muslim refugees :)

My favorite day is Monday because that's when the stock market opens.

brandiburgi already build a regimental-camp in every province:>

rip bozo

exactly, those muslim refugees have always been there
respect their ancestral homeland of berlin

as for stellaris pops, i'll only speak for version 3.1415962 which is the latest that i'm playing, not the actual current one which is a buggy mess
every 'pop' in that game i personally interpret as a representative chunk of approximately 250 million individuals
this is because the planets whose populations i was able to have built up so far were as high as 68 pops, which equates to 17 billion which sounds pretty cramped
although not impossibly so

you can do like 150 pops

why allied with poland in 1488, no teutonic order and brandenburg so small?

is that the record max? i haven't dealt with ecumenopolis yet

i dont think theres any "record max" but ive seen 150+ stuff

what drives a man to just silently drop thousands of images of otters in this place
it's several dozen orders of magnitude more retarded than posting here in a normal fashion or monitoring this place

have you considered that the otterman might be posting things other than otters, anonymously?
he just post images of otters once in a while

dios mio anon, that ist not ein otter

>>2120476
>>2120498
rimworld simulates pops and logistics far more detailed than memegame2 could ever hope to
and no, it's not even close.
in rimworld, your cook can’t make lavish meals because the hauler pawn got food poisoning and didn’t bring rice from the fields, construction stalls because the only builder lost a leg over your own booby trap, beer production booms after a good harvest and boosts colony mood and a single solar flare can wipe out your freezer stockpile, forcing an emergency butchering and cooking marathon before everything rots. every resource has to move through pops and workstations in the right order. cotton from the fields to the loom to make cloth, then to the tailor bench for jackets before winter and any break in that chain, whether from a blight, a tantrum, or a cougar eating your farmer, cascades through the entire economy.

meanwhile in memegame2... your 200k "pops" can only cultivate a single resource per an entire province, 200,000 coal miners in yorkshire can instantly supply a furniture factory in egypt without a single ship leaving the port, grain from siberia teleports into paris bakeries without passing through a single market, railways instantly boost every industry’s output without requiring an ounce of coal or steel to maintain them, because trains (if they exist at all) in memegame2 apparently run on black voodoo. your artillery factory in the sahara will run fine forever despite no local iron or coal because the magic world market fairy™ teleports in infinite inputs as long as you’ve got cash and unemployed irish laborers will happily sit in dublin starving instead of migrating to your bustling, empty farms just in the next province. the economy isn’t a living system, it’s a giant invisible vending machine in the sky where all goods appear and vanish without transport, storage, or decay, making your whole PhD in Economics shtick more of a spreadsheet LARP rather than a functioning simulation.

Ugh,,, I hate to admit it... but he's right... I cannot believe I ever thought vic-- I mean, memegame2 was ever good or, dare I say it... Fun.

and here, otterimposter provides the novel idea that mordhau is the superior game at simulating the intricacies of melee duels, despite melee duels being present in crusader kings 2
why didn't paradox add first person melee combat to ck2? no idea, but it must clearly mean that ck2 is a bad game

>>2120550
okay but thats an ai post right
theres no way you actually wrote out all that with a clear mind

that's not an ai post and i've a strong suspicion that's robbie aka yung yohan aka the guy who wrote the waggle pastas
he finally came back to the /gsg/ fold after trolling /vst/ for years and latched onto hating ck2 for some reason. which is weird because no one here is exploding in anger like /vst/ was to three button posting

how do you know im not all red and trembling in rage

how do i make this fun

fair point
but why don't you write him a strongly worded reply? surely telling someone to kill himself on this imageboard will make him actually do it and he'll stop posting forever and you'll no longer be angry

you click the uninstall button then boot up victoria 2 as prussia and form germany

nuh yeh

i have a rare disease that makes me only tell people to kill themselves when happy

gemerald

i should play it again, suggest a country

sardinia piedmont into italy is always my go-to

you can do one of the romanias
itll be mostly boring shit but its always fun genociding billions in a maniac war that utilizes your full potential when you get gas attack

sardinia piedmont has a mission, which makes it so, the culture where you capital is in, becomes your main culture, so you can form any nation.

but which nation would be fun to form?

italy

germany

cry meme mod is really the only mod out there that doesnt delete the intro movie

the intro movie is kino

hope you people get haunted by the factory construction sound your whole lives

mamluks

there are no mamluks in vic2

no peace to Hannover. only Death

it's hannover

What I want to see in a EU5 crimeamod
>earlier start date(1066,1204) to make CK3 obsolete
>Push the end date to 1946 to make Vic3 and Hoi4 obsolete
>add political alignment for characters and pops during the age of revolutions
>merge made up cultures in africa,america and asia
>add war crimes

earlier start dates have never been good in any paradox game because they make the ai blob out of control
talexiad is the best ck2 start date

>alexiad is the best ck2 start date
I will try this tomorrow. Looks fun. I usually never play the later than 936 start dates because the HRE blobs too much.

eu5 bantumod merging all african cultures while there are 17 different types of german

the latest supes marvel slop movie web-dl just dropped
should i give it a go bros...

you're pregnant

whos the mom

>>2120675
>I will try this tomorrow. Looks fun. I usually never play the later than 936 start dates because the HRE blobs too much.
if you do, double the crusade target weight for jerusalem in the files. or just use my vanilla plus mod. otherwise 90% of the time when you start in 1081 the first crusade will be for anatolia.

>>earlier start date(1066,1204) to make CK3 obsolete
might as well go 769 and 867, the better start dates

this is bait

you're bait

no i'm not

neither am i, they are the better start dates

they're not
claiming they are is such a terrible opinion it has to be bait, especially coupled with that image

it's not a terrible opinion, it's a hard fact
denying it is just you living in fantasy land

see? like i told you, indisputable bait crafted purely for rage replies
he's not even trying to defend this opinion because it is neither his opinion nor is there anything to defend

it's definitely my opinion, and it's very defensible
you can't even say why my opinion is terrible nor why it's not a hard fact, which makes your attack weak
the earlier start dates are simply more fun and adds more time to the game run, two major winning points

but then again if you knew this, you'd know that it's a hard fact

ck3>ck2
i'm not even baiting, actual 3d model characters alone make the game better by default

not him, but i agree it is a better game, but not just for the 3d models, but for other stuff

it would be if they let you disable de jure drift like in ck2 but they still havent made that a thing 5 years after release

bros, i discovered... venice and chill :o
with venice you can wage endless wars from the get go + actual good map color, the teal ottermans :o

>de jure drift
you are possibly the only one in the world complaining about this

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i can say why your opinion is terrible but there is no point since the opinion itself is bait and you don't hold it
in fact every single one of your posts is an attempt to bait people into an honest argument about an opinion you don't actually hold. claiming that an opinion is a fact is yet another reason it's obvious bait
your bait even inspired another anonym to claim that ck3 is better than ck2, which is another indefensible position uttered solely to generate strife

i don't like playing as venice because of the province limit merchant republics have
it feels weird making land in anatolia into trade companies

>nooooooo it's le bait le bait, it contradicts my viewpoint therefore it's bait
pathetic

the script writer is getting lazy...

play memegame get memed on

it contradicts any viewpoint a sane man would have, therefore it's better to assume that it's bait than assume you're retarded
i'm simply giving you the benefit of the doubt in this dualistic choice
meanwhile you keep giving everyone more proof it is bait with every single one of your posts

no, it's literally more fun to play in 769 and 867 and the playthrough is longer to the end date therefore they are better
sanity or insanity has nothing to do with it

no it's not more fun
the game goes completely off the rails when you pick the earlier start dates and at that point you might as well not play a historical game at all. paradox games are simply better off with shorter, more concise timeframes because they can't simulate history properly
ck2, eu3 and eu4 have worlds that look nothing like real life by their end dates because they have long time frames and in ck2 it's particularly egregious because the game does not simulate the spread of religions properly

>waaaaaaaaaa this videogame is not historically accurate
oh so that's what's bugging this fag so much
>off the rails
lmao get it? because you need your game to be _)|/railroaded\|(_ for you to like it? hahahahahah
why don't you just play memetoria 2 then, with whatever mod that railroads it even further than it already is

eu4 was a good game until they made the old world ai culture convert everything
at least then nations could pop out where now it's like oops the ottomans converted half of persia to armenian

>Full shipsets covering all ship classes.
>Includes all starbase stages and stations
>except for some megastructures

>shitlaris
did they fix 4.0 yet

30
see, this guy was baiting all along
can't even engage in level-headed discussion without resorting to autistic screeching

it's not baiting, you are actually the autistic one because you want a map-painting game to be railroaded
there is little to no replay value for a game to be programmed to turn up historically accurate because there is objectively only one outcome that is historically accurate
you basically want something that plays like a youtube video, where everything happens the same way
nobody else wants that

i want my map painting to be meaningful
i don't want a mod-tier experience where i just click a button and all my pops become hellenic and neoplatinist without any sort of internal pushback from church patriarchs and external push back in the form of crusades
i want games to simulate those historical forces and a game lasting from 769 to 1821 will have a snowball's chance in hell of doing that. if people wanted a total sandbox power fantasy then age of history would have been a hit, but even niggercattle don't want that, if we entertain the ridiculous notion that the opinion of retarded masses holds any water

l m a yo

>age of history
>age of empires
>age of wonders
plus a thousand others
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?term=age+of
johan is so fucking retarded choosing to name his game "age of enlightenment"
he should name his game "chud nation: a game for chuds. chuds only" and watch as people talk about it everywhere. after all all publicity is good publicity

well i bet they could easily program specific nation-ruling ai that have specific religion and/or culture to go for specific border goals, and have those "ai ghosts" pass from top ruler to top ruler's heir when the ruler dies (in the case of crusader kuck games)
why they don't do that, i don't know, but it may help get something closer to a 50/50 historical outcome of most if not all countries
of course with vassals and lesser independent rulers constantly pushing for power, in every way they can so they can survive against bigger nations, they'll be the bigger factors in throwing historical borders to the wayside, which keeps things not entirely predictable and boring

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3323210/The_Age_of_Bhaarat/
how can johan compete with this?

>dmc clone
who cares

bro
this poland blobber getting so cocky
they could barely get anything from 2 wars against kazan on their own
btw i thought it was the religious league war at first
so, accept or we do a little trolling?

always help your allies
if we don't honour our commitments we might as well be animals

fine, only because they crossed the hellespont and charged at the ottermans *so braveleey* resulting in a battle where mememed the ii which was a 3 star general dies early

good. let Poland die

you're evil

>unbenamt
der ewige deutschen

earwig*

what did poland ever do to you?

Nothing. They should just get the hell out of the Baltic Sea. We Prussians and Balts don't want them here. As far as I'm concerned, they can go to the Balkans or Russia.

but you're playing as venezia

i mean, when the coaltition has beaten poland in 5 years and your truce has expired, you can go

what countriy are you from my friend? would you let some dogs virtually conquer it?

poland

but prussians didn't want germans in their land either and pomerania was slavic
it's the germans that are the dogs conquering it. poland is the liberator

poland is the harry potter of countries, the dr. seuss of poetry

whatever that means

it means you should like poland if you're a decent human being

lol, no. believe me, we prussians where happy with the teutons in the end. no more forest-spirits. it was inevetible.
we were always hostile with the slavs before the teutons came

he poles were not liberators but pursued their own territorial interests.

who is the most chill country to play as in eu4
not a battle for survival like byzantium and not overly easy 'conquer everyone' like ottomans or poland

I bought vic3 just to continue my EU4 saves

i wanted to say portugal but after they changed the castillian mission tree they always break your alliance and you're forced to compete with them so i have to say korea

am i the only one that doesnt like brandenburg into prussia in eu4
you have to pull off all these perfect things at perfect timing to stop the poles from blobbing and permafucking you over while also juggling a massive coalition because every tile you take will add a million ae

can you play dlcBLOATversalis4 past the end date? y/n

polacks whined for help by the order, due to baltic raids :)

as livionian order, you can colonise pretty well with and form your own government.
just later, when you annex the teutons, make sure you culture convert to prussian for better tags.

or florence into Sardinia-piedmont into anybody else.

no it gives you a you a wholesome u win screen

13
my condelences^^ may i play poland for you and show you how prussians play poland? but i dont know if i want to. i really should do something else

castile and chill is the experience
i've been literally posting campaigns about playing the last day of eu4 on onward u blind buffoon

gay
i would want to play past the end date just to really really really do everything that i'd possibly feel needed to be done

oh you have? i must've not noticed

i used the awesome power of reddit and apparently you can only play past the end date if you're not playing ironman

okay
i don't play anything on cuckman anyways

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHEEVOS

but stopping the poles from blobbing ist most fun:D
i dont liked it too much either. accidentally took exploration as third idea group and the prussian colour got ugly :(

they really should´ve made a northern federation formable.

i wouldn´t expand too much as i did.
I would rather take an intermediate step next time and form the Hanseatic League... so only take the northern provinces and continue later as Prussia.

>we prussians
wow, i never thought i'd see a larp bigger than new worlders heritagefagging, but here we are

history and heritage are fake it's the white man's plot to keep us down

no but seeing an ostsiedlunger larping as an old prussian is so funny, considering how many massacres the knights of saint mary have done

us preuBBians gloriams am i rite

holy fuck. I just wanted to quickly check if Bavaria is chill for 28.
-free Ingolstadt +Margarete!


>Ostsiedlunger
nigger, All my ancestors dna are Baltic, germanic, Scandinavian. All around the Baltic Sea. I can do whatever I want there.

Germans are getting too cocky again
Next time, we will skip the Elbe and push you all the way to Rhine

>All my ancestors dna are Baltic, germanic, Scandinavian
la creatura de berolinum...

ah yes, the beautiful world of memegame2 logistics and population system where pops don’t actually need housing, sanitation, or even fresh water, you can cram ten million people into Faiyum oasis with no slums, no epidemics, no infrastructure stress, and the only thing they complain about is that they can’t buy enough fancy hats off the sky vending machine. 100,000 italian farmers will happily migrate to the Yukon to work as lumberjacks in -40°C because there is "trinket pensions” while railroads happily work without coal, steel, maintenance crews, or spare parts, as if locomotives were perpetual motion machines. meanwhile, food is infinite, famine is impossible, and nobody ever cares about seasons, harvests, or distribution.. a wheat farmer in Kiev produces the same daily trickle of grain in winter as in summer, and all of it vanishes into a global stockpile that’s shared between Peru and Prussia like some kind of planetary fridge. And of course, your nation’s army can keep fighting world wars forever as long as you have canned food and small arms in the global ether, because apparently soldiers don’t need horses, coal, or boots.. they're built like ikea flat-packs. just eat your tinned spam, grab a rifle, and march across Siberia.

it's a game about running a 19th-century empire powered by ghost trains, ikea regiments, and astral pops summoning grain from pocket dimensions

b-b-b-based fake otter poster

post otter 675

>Vicky 2, just formed Italy
>allied with France
should I focus on getting the rest of the cores from Austria or colonize Africa?

what mod?
definitely get lombardy and venezia, but the balkan cores are mostly optional. there's very few italian pops there
then get some cozy colony with decent rgos (read anything that's not grain, fruit, cattle or wool)

meanwhile politics are just as deranged as the economy, instead of grubby backroom deals, patronage, or riots in the streets, political life is reduced to pops rolling dice in the background and “voting” into existence massive ideological swings overnight. one week, your peasants are docile monarchists tending fields, the next, half the country has spontaneously become Jacobin revolutionaries. whole swathes of the population flip-flop ideology overnight, as if every farmer in Prussia read the same newspaper and collectively decided, “ja, socialism time”. Political parties themselves are cartoon caricatures, the conservatives forbid your factories from expanding because “muh interventionism” even if unemployment is sky-high, while laissez-faire liberals somehow prevent you from subsidizing a rifle factory during wartime, because the sacred invisible hand must decide whether your army gets bullets.

reforms are equally absurd. you can’t just pass laws through parliament or a monarch’s decree, no, you must wait until your pops reach exactly 7.8% “consciousness” and demand healthcare, at which point you press a single button and magically every doctor in your country agrees to invent socialized medicine overnight. political movements don’t march, strike, or riot. they just add modifiers to your reform chance. a revolutionary communist uprising doesn’t seize factories or rally discontent workers. instead, thousands of rebel brigades spawn out of thin air across your provinces like angry pokemon, completely ignoring supply, politics, or local leadership. your monarch or parliament can be “reactionary” but they never actually react, they just sit in a tooltip until you click “pass reform"

politics in memegame2 isn’t about factions, patronage, or institutions, no, it’s basically a slot machine where pops spit out ideologies, and you pray the numbers line up so you can pass “good health care” before your empire explodes.

i don't think ck2 works like that

>la creatura de berolinum(i have no business with berlin)
more like Blitzgekrönter, Nordostkrieger, Ostseeerbe, Runenwächter, Bernsteinträger, Wellenreiter, Eichenblut, Runenschmied, Prussenkind, Hanseschild.

>Ostseeerbe
not a real word

eastern bee

Ostseeerbe = Baltic Sea heritage in effective language

otters don't need apologists, they forge their own destiny

the real problem in liqouria2 politics is that the ideology distribution makes no sense
the 7 accepted aristocrats in my state decide my upperhouse should be 8% socialist, 34 % liberal, 6 % anarcho liberal, 37% conservative and 15% reactionary

look, just because i'm reactionary doesn't mean i can't flirt with communism with bossnigger characteristics

so gay
>using words like reactionary and communism

there's no need to sign your posts

it made sense in your mind

cool it with the antisemitism

health care causing population growth is stupid in victoria's time table

health care full stop didn't work, and diseases were reduced by public health campaigns to wash or not live so crowded

it also leads to ahistorical population numbers in the late game, which is why every mod worth its salt either nerfs it or removes it outright

>invent medicine
>researchers invent prophylaxis against malaria
>adult male populations grows quicker immediately

it's not prophylaxis against malaria that increases pop growth, it's clinical_thermometers_and_binaural_stethoscopes

all that medical hoo-ha won't cure me from being a one-pump chump

you think that's suffering? there are big dicked guys out there who are into sph

am i supposed to know what the fuck that is?

>the only problem in liqouria2 politics is that the ideology distribution makes no sense
ah yes, it is the sole problem in a game where you can have an absolute monarchy where the king voluntarily swaps governments every few years because “the upper house is 30% liberal now” and even hardline reactionaries will politely step aside the moment the numbers say so. liberals don’t lobby newspapers, conservatives don’t control the officer corps, and the shoelace factory workers don’t form unions. they’re rigid, pokémon-card ideologies with fixed stances on trade, military, and social reforms, and they’ll happily tank your entire industry because the liberal party thinks subsidizing factories is against their moral high ground. pops can cheerfully vote in communists one election, fascists the next, and then calmly accept monarchy restored the year after, all without a single riot in the streets or assassination in parliament even if 90% of your peasants have never traveled ten miles from their village. meanwhile, social change is driven less by social struggle than by imaginary militancy threshold, peasants aren’t rioting because their kids are starving, they’re rioting because the tooltip says “+0.02 militancy per month due to toothpick shortage”. A single reform adding “Trinket Healthcare” instantly calms down half your population, because nothing soothes 19th-century peasants like the abstract promise of free band-aids.

yes

ahem
play memegame, get memed on...

>victoria 2 haters now post sojaks
wtf i love vicky now

>>2121211
this is the best one so far
>as if locomotives were perpetual motion machines

oh God this nigger is back

whacking my one-eyed willy on a sunday yeehaw

how no one cares
lol

even if it's 24 minutes past midnight it's still spiritually saturday

but your screenshot clearly shows 162 countries care

nah

yes, check again

they're just pretending

my liege, the polish pretenders have risen

i just popped a pimple on my buttock
now i'm eating the goodies inside

^ classic german ^

Victoria 3 is not good

we know

esls outing themselves via time zones

i'm roman

all romes lead to road

i may be a nigger but i'm spiritually white

that's just misery porn
honestly mccarthy is just not that good of an author, despite americans praising him

who?

the author of "the road"

huh, that's less border gory than usual

xi don't look

>Catholic Cumans in Russia
>Khazars rule Hungary

but are they jewish?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJzPMcRcMFc
>finish playing the age of empires 2 barbarossa campaign
>listen to this

yeehaw

whats ur first moves as austria

where do you blob
russia? shitaly? SHITTAMONS?

in vanilla you take the balkans then later russia because more differenct cultures means more assimilation

the balkan provinces are fucking worthless though

and just like this, the world is healed.

reminds me of how johan freed greek cores as every country he played. it's the same kind of obsession

what if
instead of austria-hungary
it was austria-poland

>whats ur first moves as austria
do nothing, improve my country. release lombardy-venice as a puppet if i'm feeling like cheating
if i'm planning on antagonizing prussia then wait for the medicine inventions and declare war for silesia

yeehaw indeed

why are you playing dark souls instead of demon souls?

>>2121406
why was this post deleted?

because emulating without a controller is an exercise in testicular torsion

is it though? i know some console players buy those mouse and keyboard adapters to have controls that are actually usable for shooters
i guess the grass is always greener on the other side

the janny is a belieber and i'm an eminem guy we just can't find common ground

grey eminem

controls aren't that big of an issue it's more to do with console games having finicky cameras that automatically track your movement so you're either stuck with some kind of ghetto wasd movement arrow keys camera kind of deal or constantly switching one hand from mouse to keyboard to be able to see where you're going

so when you say "testicular torsion" you actually mean ocular torsion?

yeah i'm thislexic

i did the free all greek cores thing in a mp game as austria once
my buddy was playing greece
i wasted 12 infamy

why didn't you just ally him and let him add the wargoals?

why didn't the greeks just be catholic

didnt use my brain, it was the only mp we ever joined together
we won a war against shitaly and france in that one despite me forgetting my army maintenance

me on the left

whats with the latvian flags on the parking lot

nice try reportfag
anyways...

i really really hate hoi4

ww2 is just a really shit idea for a grand strategy, because all the buildup is geared towards ONE war and once that ONE war is over the game is over, and any major deviations like monarchist germany or fascist russia just feels absolutely ridiculous unlike eu4 or victoria 2 where major changes feel somewhat grounded. its a terrible game and only midwits play it and like it

because the greeks had their own bible translastion in greek, not latin.
less juristic, more mystical, iconic.
they deny papal authority and had no concept of purgatory.
and the holy spirit only comes from god and not from jesus aswell

dropping the campaign. dont like lederhosen. a pole is more likely to wear them

Replaying WW2 all the time must be boring. Especially when everything is based on "national focus" narrative. I only had 2 intense Germany campaigns and then uninstalled.

playing equestria at war solves that issue

i had 3 campaigns.
helped germany as switzerland.
helped germany as hungary.
helped germany as finnland

>>2121484
is it using the hejog as a flea vending machine

ok i bought vicky 2. what now?

yerrow prubia time

vanilla?

let it be known that grand crypto strategy general stands with el presidente trump

did anyone ask if /gsg/ wanted full integration with discord trannys

refund it then pirate it

rend it then play something else

meant to type refund, but rend works too heheheh

>previously on venice and chill >>2121066
so pooland peaced out france and burgundy thanks to my 6 pips siege generals for melting their 20 fortifications down and then austria called for me in the religious league war that i accepted but i'm somehow not in the league war??
bro.. what the...
fix your game paradogs (even doe i pirated it)
but still, playing eu4 but missing the league war is like stickin without nuttin if you know what i mean

what the fuck is wrong with me i can't stop being lazy

i'm too lazy to be lazy at this point

laziness is good, just look at the greeks

fuck the greeks, i need to be productive

you burned through your reserves of stress defence
you need to properly rest your brain or you'll start going bald

i'm already bald

i'm not
what do you know about my stress defense? i do absolutely nothing for weeks, only playing games and some other non-monetary and non-educational shit

playing games is doing something you utter retard
you might believe you're braindead and autopiloting but your brain is still thinking for you when you drool on your keyboard at speed 5 and press spacebar every 5 minutes

so what? that's not stressful you weakling

you're not alone in your delusions these days
keep at it and see where lying to yourself gets you

i shouldn't keep at being lazy, i should improve my life
justifying laziness with "the greeks did it" is hilarious, but whatever makes you comfortable i guess

cant see shit. sorry, but i have to refund

i'm not fat i'm strongfat

i'm strongbad

the WASP is in my room again
come on man

why is an anglo in your room

hnnnnnnng blighttown is so aids

>the prussian ultranationalist is now playing liq2
good thing he's not polish or he'd have to release poland in every single playthrough
imagine china going to war with russia to release poland

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlUcERkn3nU
:o

install crimeamod

i heard crimeamod is hard, so why suggest that for someone new to memegame2

call it a memegame again and see what happens bud

if you'll answer my question, sure

why is your screen so large

but i didn't recommend it for memegame 2, i recommended it for victoria 2
there is no crimeamod for memegame 2

there is no option for bigger ui -.-

no, you have to reduce the resolution

>Poland is too easy in eu4
>Poland is too hard in hoi4
is there any game with poland in it that's normal difficulty?

ck2, imperator

are eu4, ck2 and vic2 the only good paradox games

hoi3 and eu3 are good, too, certainly better than eu4

hoi3 is the best oldschool paradox, ck3 is the best newschool paradox

liqqy is the best newschool paradox

if hoi3 and vic2 were so great then why are /gsg/ and /vst/ filled with eu4 and hoi4 posting

i haven't seen hoi4 on /gsg/ in a while, meanwhile there's plenty of vickyposting

i posted hoi3 earlier this year
noone else did, though
one guy posted like one or two screenshots of his germany run but it was static, not progressive

as in static warfare? he was defending?

no
as in a snapshot of something not followed up by anything close to the same time frame
like imagine jumping from page 1 of a fiction novel to page 130, the viewer doesn't have a clue as to what substantial thing happened between both points

it's just ww2, you can interpolate the rest

i won't

then perish

i just thought of a way to incentivize a player to engage in corruption in a gsg set in cold war or modern times (or both, and post-present times)
money laundering could be used to buy items of prestige like cars and homes and bribery
think ck3 but modern times, decked with ability to buy 'items' and 'buildings'
it can serve as a foundation for an actual geopolitics simulator
i'm probably not the first to think of this though
but i doubt there's a game out there right now with these specific mechanics implemented...
... which leads me to the question, why isn't there?

there are bats flying outside my house
bats are cute and rare

like i want to play a game where you're literally some oil tycoon in russia and you watch as the main leader gets accused by a mikhail khodorkovsky type because this guy is being pressured to, to which the leader gets him thrown in jail and divides the accuser's assets with you and 11 others
that would just be one example
ugh it'd be kino

sorry, best i can do is an 18th century victoria 2 clone

of course you don't have to be the tycoon, you can be some other guy, you can end up being the top ruler of russia (or usa on the other side of the world, or some other industrialized country)

Suzerain

Tropico

a visual novel for people who dont read

suzerain is just a vn
that's the problem with this guy's idea. there's no way it ever gets realized as a simulationist videogame. best you can do is daydream of it irl. it's what i do

but anyways with a character's engagement in corruption, they could boost benefits which would give them 'relations' boost with other characters which may hook them up with opportunities and vying for more power
acquisition of assets helps with this, and corruption of course facilitates the acquisition of these assets
the game could be a map painter like eu4 or memegame2 or ck3 but you would be able to paint the map only after becoming top leader of your country, you could be for example thailand (with how recently thailand had a military issue with cambodia) or china with india or japan or north korea or something, trying to vye for power externally, if not internally
but internal power will always be the initial phase of the gameloop, and arguably the best phase depending on what country it is and how powerful it becomes when you reach the top

go make it if you're so smart, big boy

and of course when you're the top leader, corruption goes completely opposite for you: it is now a problem working against you, because you as top ruler want to keep your subdordinates from weakening your country too much with corruption
holy fuck this would be platinum

never happening for two reasons

>Tropico
that game looks hideous, like something even more cartoony than civilization 6, the most cartoony shit in the strategy market
also i doubt that game has the kind of scope i'd be hoping for
>suzerain
is that any good? my intuition tells me it's railroaded and not deep at all

tropico is a good game, but you apparently hate good games so you won't like it

do i snack the Karibik

colonize quebec then deport all the poles there

which tropico is the best tropico
i'm going to give this game a try and if it's shit i'm going to give it a just roasting
unlike you faggots when i recommend something, i'm capable of trying something new

your taste is trash so why should we try anything you recommend? and you recommend nothing
try tropico 6, you'll probably like it

i played tropico 6 because i got it for free but it wasnt for me

suzerain is good, yeah it's railroaded but your choices matter
essentially you customize your country

just broke up with ottereich :/
anyway, should we do a little trolling?
y/n

always support your allies

we're low iq here

iq is a jewish psyop

well then that means no since using commonL as a meatshiled doesn't constitute as supporting my allies

poland is cute

poland my only friend...

>filthy roman borders
vomitinghomersimpson.jpg

but rome was great

triest is rightfully slovene therefore german

why yes i'm choosing to emit 0^12 of world's global carbon emission by forcing my coal powered pc to calc some ai pathfinding what gave it away

you couldn't calculate your way out of a paper bag

maybe because it seems to take coal to make coal based on your post quality

0.1^12%
no need to sametard

based steampunker

test

mein cores are coming along nicely

Time to play this wholesome German Kingdom. Right in France.

fuck it teach me how to crypto
if it doesn't work out i'm buying vicky 3 and killing myself

>integrate hannover
>suddenly can raise 10 more brigades
you love to see it

buy low sell high basically

reminds me of how in NEOVICTORIA (remember neovictoria?) there were two separate commerce techs: one "buy low" and the other "sell high" separated from each other by 10 years
i thought that was really funny

>>2122053
tell me the two reasons

lol, should i do it?

what did austria mean by this?

can i beat the irl record of 7 weeks?

ugh even at war are my bureaucrats working tirelessly to united my reich (that's realm for you non-germans)

this is the power of well chosen military techs
i haven't even passed the moltke's reforms decision and i have only 2 more techs than austria

>battles decided by dice rolls
>muh military tech

dice rolls are absolutely not everything
it's like poker, the rng matters but knowing how to rig it in your favour is much more important

yeah just casually rolling five 50/50s in a row
surely it's all random

damn, i couldn't beat the irl prubian record of 7 weeks
the habsburgs are just too tenacious in this game

>>2122175
wtf is that romania and serbia borders
how absolutely disgusting

the romania border is historical

fulfilling willy's dream

what is memegame 1 ?

ugh look who formed

classic jewish jacobins

>pontifical italy
>not a theocracy
>doesnt own rome

it doesn't own rome but it owns vatican))))

and now she owns rome
not a theocracy because theocracy was a stupid government added by hpm. it was just a monarchy with the name changed and it couldn't pass voting reforms which means it always fell to millions of jacobins

>free iraq by the 1860s
Baathtastic

i added it as a wargoal to convince england to join my side in a crisis to free egypt

ugh

hmm

vhg, east wales.... home...

i´d do the same

what a lovely event

what mod is this?

crimeamod

>east wales
i.e. wallachia

only makes sense, they're basically the same name

i hate hoi4 so much bros why do people like this shit its just frustrating metafaggotry

do i play vicky 2 with the gfm mod or not

crimeamod

what does it do

everything

it makes you gayer play blood&iron if you want to retain heterosexuality

desert druids

667 for thane

alanis morisette and shania twain the only good things to come from canada ??

who and who and who

>>2122336
kino!

famous vtubers

celine dion (v2 powergamer)

i had my computer loicenze revoked (only anglo dominion countries will relate) but i always come back to this simple truth: i love the fine folks at /gsg/

>>2122071
monkey makes his inevitable triumph over interloping seafodder. gsg prospers

i guess i should start trying to build my own internet to avoid that same fate

ckii (can't see the chest down)
and yet 'people' will claim this was the superior gs

this epl season is lame, i hope arsenal kiss my arse cheeks and manunited wash my feet and liverpool send me a darned postcard with love. if i don't finish top of the epl this season, it was all in vain, a total farce

vghh grossvenetiums...
was a very fun campaign, no lack of low yield doge or money
i didn't even invest on economic buildings at all, i just invaded everyone to get their money to then pay for my army to then to wage more wars for money and land
there's no a single decade where i'm not waging a war
as for the leftover money, i govcapmaxxed and paperpointsmaxxed and it turned out much better for the economic and manpower situation than investing in buildings

>roman borders
>merchant italians
>~ pressed over a thousand times
i LIKE it!!

lol nice try but every eu4 screenshot has the golden cheevo icon on the top right to show that i'm playing on ironman

every accusation a confession

wtf that's more scarier than the movie

the raccoon let himself be caught
can guarantee that otter was never heard or spoken of again

zomg life is like that rain mario video game

15
wrong, we're speaking of that otter right now

what was his name?

timur

EU5 release date reveal in gamescum?

Hopefully next is HOI5. I refuse to play 4 simply how disgusting the map looks.

hoi5 will have even more RGB lighting than heartsofRGB4, and in mid-game all of the allies countries will put up a rainbow flag
in 1944 the axis countries will be able to recruit vampires

>>2122638
now that cpu and gpus have advance much since 2016 maybe they add province names back

>>2122498
more like grossrespvblica..

not bad
has that leatherwolf guitar

any recommendations for my next game i should buy? only played EUIV and CK2 so far.
Would prefer something with more complexity and depth.

Victoria II or HOI3

eu4 is about as complex as it gets, their newer games are extremely shallow

eu4 is not complex at all, it just has a lot of buttons that trade one type of mana for another or some sort of a bonus, on cooldown
it is the illusion of complexity

>>2122770
exactly this, thats why i look for something more complex, idc if its historical, scifi or fantasy. I just want a more complex game.

try victoria 2 and shadow empire, one has interesting population simulation not replicated in a grand strategy, the other has a fun logistics simulation

can't decide which one is more of an eyesore, hoi4 or shadow empire

definitely goy4, what are you on about?

i'm on about how they both look bad, but for different reasons

why are you even here if you hate all paradox games

that's quite a claim you're insinuating about me

but shadow empire looks good
it's how a strategy game should look

hmm well the least they should do is change those portraits in shadow empire, they are absolutely trash, i have laughed several times when looking at them

you must have really low standards for humor

and you have equally low standards for character design

no, i have high standards for games and if accepting programmer art is what it takes then so be it
i would much rather have a game made with passion than a game made for niggercattle with a huge embezzling budget

well if you don't like shadow empire there's always victoria 2 you can play

sorry (not sorry) but i don't play memegames
i play better games

but i didn't suggest playing any meme game, i suggested playing victoria 2. you said you wanted good, more complex games and victoria 2 is exactly that

>>2122797
will check victoria 2 out, i like the paradox games overall, but i want something that is really challenging with a big learning curve.

then install crimeamod, it has upgraded ai
in general you shouldn't be playing victoria 2 vanilla. any of the overhaul mods improves the game somewhat

crimeamod files on moddb detects trojan on unzip do not download this files

>>2122870
group safety blink very imba

don't ever reply to me ever again

homosexual gamer speak demons pray em out

>>2122880
ok bro

vgh... a world without trump

doubt any of that would ever have happened without him

>lousiana
>aleyska

lousiana is how americans pronounce louisiana, it's retarded

where is the wall of niggertext?

hopefully that faggot is on another 3-day vacation
genuinely don't know what the fuck his problem is

americans from what region?
from new england region they say it correctly

never forgiving the homo swedish hoi4 devs who took this from us

>metagaming with hindsight and historical knowledge
place those troops at the border, pussy

random not my screenshot for example purposes :)