I probably won’t post this often but I wanted to explain in detail what happens after we die. Especially since many here try to scare others from love and light as if it’s a psyop.
I was lucky enough to have a near death experience (though it partially paralyzed me, required years of surgeries & physical therapy), I’ve taken countless heroic doses of psychedelics (shrooms, DMT, LSD, Iboga), im well trained in astral projection, akashic reading, hemisync, & my experiences perfectly align with the teachings of the greatest mystics (Blavatsky, Cayce Steiner), as well as clinical studies/case reports of NDE, past life regressions (by Dr Ray Moody, Dr Brian Weiss, Cannon) plus the ancient traditions like the Egyptian & Tibetan books of the dead or shamanic teachings.
The light and the love you feel from it, that pulls you towards it is not trap
After you die, if you’re still attached or fearful, you can stay in the lower astral with entities attached to sex drugs, power, greed, and control over others. It’s sad & can be a very hot jungle. I saw lots of voodoo and silliness at that level.
But if you see the light and go towards it, you move up to the middle astral realm where most people from this planet are concentrated. It’s a lot like the suburbs you can spend time with people you knew while incarnated before your spirit guides come get you and help you ascend.
Then you have the higher astral, where it’s even more beautiful you’re surrounded by beautiful music, this is where people describe the hall of records or akashic libraries. Here you spend your time learning, planning out what you want to do next on your souls progression.
There’s nothing to fear. Your soul is way too powerful for some stupid lizard to trap.
I wish you all well and hope that you’re always guided in your best interest. Godspeed fellow travelers.

Please continue

>>40839718 (OP)
this is what I saw last night, thank Anon for your insights.

>>40839733
im always open to questions
>>40839737
based and and and Ibogaine pilled

>>40839783
no Anon, it was after meditation I got to a lucid dream and I was forcefully tranfer to this realm surrounded by that picrel.

>>40839789
Good
It’s better to go without a crutch like psychedelics
Keep practicing

>>40839718 (OP)
>planning out what you want to do next on your souls progression

I hate this idea a lot.
I hate reincarnation at it's very core.
Having to come back to this godless shit-hole of a planet forever sounds like actual hell to me.

I just want to rest. I'm tired of these awful games.

>>40839869
I feel you, from what I know.
We have options, reincarnate or back to the Source.
From NDE, you will have life review from perspective of others that you hurt, if you no longer attach I think there's no reason to choose to reincarnate.

I still dont buy you saw it all. Still sounds like a container to me. Containers inside containers.

>>40839944
yes, there are layers and layers in a spiral.
what he described is only one layer closest to the current reality.

>>40839869
Yeah im hoping theres more options than just coming back here. I might need a rest after this life myself
>>40839922
This is how I understand it too
when I was in the higher astral, I couldn’t see what I was studying but it felt like more fun than anything I’ve ever done in flesh.
You’re a wise one anon
>>40839944
You shouldn’t take any one’s word for this. You’ll travel the path yourself. You can choose fear or love. It’s always your choice. Not a archon’s, who runs from light and love
This entities are to be pitied or forgiven, not feared

Anyone who doubts me can read all of these books themselves. Spent years meditating and practicing like I did. Or even take the shortcut by swallowing 1500 mg of Ibogaine, smoke enough DMT
If my message does not resonate with you. It may not be your truth. We may not be similar and your path might be totally different. I’ve crossed into the spirit realm, and my body is covered in scars. I have nothing to prove to anyone because I know the truth through live experience as well as all of it being written down since the beginning of human history in every single language, and in all of the stories told by campfire.

>>40839718 (OP)
This actually resonates deeply with me. The way you described the light as something not to fear but to move toward reminds me of the Gnostic concept of the Monad, that pure source of light, truth, and being. It’s the origin and return point of the soul, beyond the illusions and layers we get tangled in.

What you said about the lower astral being full of attachments: sex, greed, control, fits exactly with what the Archons represent in Gnostic texts. They feed on distraction, fear, and the ego. But the more we recognize the divine spark within, the more transparent those illusions become.

The part about ascending and being guided by spirit allies also mirrors some of the ideas in the Pistis Sophia, where the soul rises through realms and trials, guided by inner wisdom and light, toward a reunification with the true divine.

I think when people meme about “soul traps,” they’re projecting their own fears about losing control. But real gnosis, like you touched on, dissolves fear. It’s not a trap if you’ve remembered who you are.

Thanks for posting this. Stuff like this helps cut through the noise.

>>40839718 (OP)
>Life Review
NGMI

>>40839718 (OP)
>planning out what you want to do next on your souls progression
I know for a fact that I never did and never will have any control over what I experience in life, my life is entirely controlled by a retarded sadistic evil tranny God and there is nothing positive about him or his intentions towards me on earth or in the afterlife whatsoever.

Most likely the "light" at death doesn't necessarily serve a functional purpose, when I die I just get force-reincarnated and likely forced to repeat my life, notionally the light is probably meant to represent a "wormhole" sending my soul back to when I was born, but it won't make a difference whether I go into or not because God will just force reincarnate me anyway and he doesn't really need me to go into the light at all to send me back, it's just "narrative framing" because God is a pretentious retard.

>>40839944
>>40839959
Picrel baby and it's a fun ride too

>>40839718 (OP)
This is largely true

There's a soul trap after death involving the tunnel of light, but it's the opposite of what people here say

In fact, the trap is ignoring the tunnel of light and trying to escape through the "holes in the soul grid"

There are two astral planes: an upper one and a lower one, the upper world is a pure dimension full of love and light where all of your dreams can come true, and the lower one is more of a mirror of this world, sure, you can do a lot more than you can here, but it kinda sucks, it's full of assholes and there are people who take over parts of the plane and declare it their own personal kingdom, just like here

The goal is to reach the upper astral plane: unlike the lower one, it can't be reached by a living human, no matter how hard you try, and if you think you have you've reached a part of the lower astral where you'll be lovebombed and convinced to try and escape the tunnel of light

It takes time, effort, patience and dedication to be allowed to enter the upper astral, there are no cheat codes, and if you truly deserve to be there, you won't even see a tunnel of light at all, you'll just wake up there after dying

I've never AP'd, I'm just going by what other people have said as well as my own personal experiences

I'm not going to tell you what to do, you have to make that decision on your own, but I hope you'll take what I've said into account

Good luck

>>40840282
Oh, and to add to this, if you do end up in the lower astral after dying, you will either be there forever or until you finally accept that you have to come back to Earth and do it properly this time, I don't know which one of these is true

>>40839718 (OP)
Maybe the lizard wants a fren.

>>40840282
Oh, sorry, I didn't fully read the OP, you actually said a lot of this already

I wasn't addressing this at you, you clearly know what you're talking about, I was talking to anyone else who might need to read it

Bro this is the most archonic shit I've read today
:DD

>Yes you will be pulled into something without your consent and you'll have a life review where you'll be judged for hurting others in ways that were perfectly planned inside the simulation to cause you guilt but this is all just GOOD okay those feelings are actually good and you shouldn't trust them just trust the process okay shhhhhhh

>Reincarnation GOOD (I might have a bit of a rest myself but we call come back here eventually it's no use fighting it anon I'm a shaman who took shrooms or something fugg :D)

>>40841160
It sounds like a good deal anon

>>40839869
>Having to come back to this godless shit-hole of a planet forever sounds like actual hell to me.
This is something like a boss level or challenge mode incarnation. There are nicer places to go.

>>40839718 (OP)
Fear isn't necessarily a trap. What determines it being a trap is what is feared. There are plenty of other soul traps, ignorance is one of them.

>>40839718 (OP)
you're a liar the afterlife isn't in the astral realm. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>40841480
Ok what happens when you die anon

>>40839922
>We have options, reincarnate or back to the Source.
What if I want to just fuck around and build my own Minecraft world in peace? Fuck you and fuck your "souls progression".
The afterlife is not some sort of capitalist game of accumulation of "value".

>>40841523
I promise, afterlife isn't Astral realm.

>>40841523
If after life was in the Astral realm, every murder case would be solved, amongst many other things.

>>40839992
Not to be a dick, but the books you listed are soccer mom tier new age, and I doubt all your "meditating and practicing" was worth anything if your next step was to go and destroy your etheric immunological system by doing a ton of drugs.
You are also choosing to obviate a ton of occult traditions and native practices that directly contradict your belief system. They describe an afterlife which is an extension of the mechanics of life, where there is predation, misdirection, and even death of the spiritual body.
If approached sober, you can discover in the non-physical realms beings that pose as "source" and proceed to deplete the memories and force of the dead, turning them into spiritual vegetables ready to fall back into the world of matter and reincarnate as ants.

If you think you "know the truth through live experience", all the best to you, but you're either a fool (in the good sense of the word), or fooling yourself (a deathly sin).

>>40840282
The goal is to transcend the astral planes altogether. Those are planes of illusion much as the physical.
>I've never AP'd, I'm just going by what other people have said as well as my own personal experiences
boo

I understand this is 4chan of all places and I shouldn't get too upset for people posting misconceptions and pop spirituality takes, but you are playing with other people's afterlives with your ill advice.

>>40840282
>The goal is to reach the upper astral plane
This is backwards, do you think we were born here with the goal to go there or something?
We come form the higher astral planes and the only reason we went down here is because we were bored of the source and all that.

>>40841985
>>40842003
>>40842125

You are the only person who makes sense in this thread. Please. Tell me. How do I ensure I go as far away from this place as possible, and never reincarnate again?

>>40839718 (OP)
>I’ve taken countless heroic doses of psychedelics (shrooms, DMT, LSD, Iboga), im well trained in astral projection, akashic reading, hemisync, & my experiences perfectly align with the teachings of the greatest mystics (Blavatsky, Cayce Steiner), as well as clinical studies/case reports of NDE, past life regressions (by Dr Ray Moody, Dr Brian Weiss, Cannon) plus the ancient traditions like the Egyptian & Tibetan books of the dead or shamanic teachings.
>The light and the love you feel from it, that pulls you towards it is not trap
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Start here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1m0ytpq/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/

Then read this comment:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1m0ytpq/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/n5vpisj/

>>40842003
Well, I probably should've opened that post with "this is just a theory, I have no proof of this", but just because I've never AP'd that doesn't mean I've never had spiritual experiences in my life

What OP is saying makes a lot of sense and matches up with my own experiences almost perfectly, of course we differ in a few details but that's always going to happen

Astral projection, is, in fact, one of the "cheat codes" I mentioned, I've never done it because I've just always had a bad feeling about it, and my life experiences have taught me to trust my intuition at this point

>but you are playing with other people's afterlives with your ill advice.
I didn't say you had to do what I said, I just want people to consider the situation from all angles

What's your theory about the afterlife, then? I'd like to hear it

>>40842125
>This is backwards, do you think we were born here with the goal to go there or something?
Yes

>>40842125
>We come form the higher astral planes
What makes you think that? We were born here on Earth, our evolution might've been guided by higher beings but we definitely come from this planet

>>40842125
>and the only reason we went down here is because we were bored of the source and all that.
I never liked that "it's all just a game God is playing with himself" theory, firstly because I'm pretty sure God doesn't masturbate and secondly because it's a pretty shitty thing to do, that would send all his children, who he loves very much, from the upper astral back to this material dimension of pain and suffering, it's a horrible thing to do to your own child just because you're bored

It's often said that God is capable of going back in time and creating himself, making him the uncreated source, and I think this entire universe is the process of him doing that

>>40839718 (OP)
Quality post OP. It's easy to get demoralized. As corny as this might sound I believe there are people that have been sent or chosen to help guide things along. It's not like out of a movie. They don't even know they're doing it. Some of the smallest gestures by people you don't even know can change the way you look at things forever. I think that's how it works.

>>40842601
Adding to this:

>>40842003
>pop spirituality

I don't read New Age magazines or pop spirituality books, I'm not into horoscopes or anything like that, in fact, the only pop spirituality I consume is what I see here on /x/

The only spiritual texts I read are legitimate ones like the Bible, the Bhagavad Gita and the Tao te Ching

It's like OP said: fear is the real soul trap, fear holds you back, fear is absolutely a useful tool in this world but there's no need for it in the afterlife

Reincarnation is not a bad thing, it's necessary for your development, and the reason you lose all your memories (all your memories are still in your soul, but you lose access to them while you're here, they're basically being held somewhere else on your behalf) and the reason you lose them is because a newborn should not have access to the memories of hundreds, maybe thousands of adult human lifetimes, it'll be far too overwhelming for them

Plus, I hate to say it, but most people really just aren't spiritually developed enough to remember their past lives (this includes me as well, I don't remember them either), do you really want some drunk wifebeating asshole to know that he's the reincarnation of Gilgamesh and Genghis Khan? He'll make it his mission in life to take over the world by force, and since he's the reincarnation of both of them, he'll probably succeed

No-one can teach you the truth, not earthly spiritual teachers, not beings of light from another dimension, only you can figure it out

I am an ignorant, ordinary person and my life is a complete, insane mess so my statement should be taken with a grain of salt.

Astral projection is a funny, interesting thing but what about the whole psychological structures that we have inside us? Astral projection won't solve those. It's those structures that are responsible for all the illusion and ignorance in our lives, the ways we think, feel and react. How we understand - how we create - the world. If we die while these structures are still intact, and if we are conscious after the death of the body somehow - then these structures, which foster our attachment to ourselves and to existence, will influence us to at the very least keep existing in a conditioned manner by those same structures. So we either dissolve these structures right now while alive, or we are going to keep being conditioned by them, and simply astral projecting or fleeing through a white tunnel won't solve anything. We will keep being born because we are psychologically conditioned to do so.

>>40841960
This
I just want to eternally play modded minecraft irl

>>40842657
As within so without

>>40842541
You probably replied to 3 different unrelated anons.
Anyway, let me try some analogy: You dream that you're a very rich mafioso with a lot of money and bitches, but there's an enemy that wants to kill you, you found about this because you have a mole in his organization, you prepare a plan so that your mole kills him before the attack. You go to sleep awaiting what will happens and how will things go.
And then you wake up, and remember who you are, you weren't this mafioso guy, you have things to attend to in real life, his plans and that world vanished with the dream.
Dying is like that.
Not wanting to reincarnate ever again is like not wanting to dream again when you go to sleep.

>>40842601
>We were born here on Earth, our evolution might've been guided by higher beings but we definitely come from this planet
We selected Earth to be born into, perhaps for the 10000th time, because we got already bored of other planets that didn't pose a challenge.
I always mention the correlation with chess, when you reach a very strong level you join tournaments where there are players of your level, or higher.
They're limited by having at least some rating, so you could go and play the newbies and win all the games.
Nobody does that, everyone tries to find the strongest player they can find, everyone wants to play and beat the world champion.
So earth is the world champion of existence, after dying you can go on vacation to other more pleasuring, painless planets but that'd be like playing a newbie at chess, you'd think it's a waste of time because you want to "beat earth" ASAP, and once here people find a challenge to overcome, one where the stakes seem high because if people knew it's just a game it wouldn't be as immersive.

>>40842601
>I'm pretty sure God doesn't masturbate
As above so below, you have learned doing it is something bad, so that's why you'd think that, in reality they couldn't find a single person that hasn't done it, so you wouldn't find a spirit that hasn't done it, including god.

>>40840068
based gnower knows what is going on

>>40843514
That was just a joke, anon, it was a pun on "playing with himself", everyone masturbates, including me and you, and I don't feel bad about it

May your divine spark burn so bright
that every archon flees its light.
May your Pistis rise through astral night
to reunite – no more to fight.
And when you see the Source in sight,
remember:
We walked the void and made it right

>>40842793
>I am an ignorant
The total opposite in fact. That was very well stated so thank you. It even motivated me. We need to work on our
ego complexes and suffering complexes. I’ve even read that these are artificial. And they’re the root of our suffering and confusion. The darkness is not solely out there people, it’s not just the institutions, and the religions etc. The suffering itself might be the darkness. Choose not to suffer. That sounds dumb af sorry. But imagine a world where people chose not to listen to their ego suffering

>>40840282
>I'm not going to tell you what to do, you have to make that decision on your own, but I hope you'll take what I've said into account
You're probably one of the few dozen that seems to have witnessed this for yourself, or at least you remember it. Progress sure is slow...

>>40843834
>few dozen
I'm sure there's more than that, I'm just some random guy on the internet and I'm really not that smart, but I think if I could figure it out anyone can

>Progress sure is slow...
Sure is

>>40843842
>I'm sure there's more than that
As much as I'd like to be optimistic, the people that see those tessellations is not particularly high. I see them when I wake up, and it tells me that if I thought I was dreaming that night, I actually wasn't. Those events definitely do not feel like dreams. They are indicators of an OBE.

The only people that I've ever heard experience something like that were on psychoactive substances that are meant to throw them upon the precipice of life and death (i.e. LSD/St. Anthony's Fire).

>I'm just some random guy on the internet and I'm really not that smart, but I think if I could figure it out anyone can
Theoretically, yes. Realistically, it's not easy to. People who pursue this experienced at least enough breakthrough events, primed with the knowledge that things like this exist.

For the average person, they will be caught up in traditions, conflicting beliefs and values, and the daily grind to the point where this will not even be in the running to prioritize.

>>40843994
Huh, well, okay, that's interesting

I admit this all started when I took a certain drug a little while back and had an enlightening experience: I don't want to call it "enlightenment", because while it certainly felt like that at the time, like all drug-induced enlightenments, it went away after a while

I still remember, though, I saw the tessellations exactly as you describe, it was very emotional and moving, and nothing's been the same for me since

I really am just an ordinary person, the only thing that's ever been a bit unusual about me is that I seem unusually good at finding four-leaf clovers, like finding two in the same patch of grass close to each other, bending down to pick what looked like an ordinary clover because it stood out to me and finding out it had four leaves when I looked closely at it, that kind of thing

Other people have commented on this, too, it's not just me

Why do you believe these psychedelic visions as evidence of what the afterlife is like

>>40844265
Firstly, please reply to my post directly if you want to talk to me

Secondly, this is why I didn't want to mention the drug thing, I knew people would immediately write me off as a junkie hippy like you just did

Drugs can be a great tool, yes, but they can do horrible things to people, too, they can send you to heaven or they can send you to hell, and I've experienced both

I don't think I saw the afterlife, but from then on I started researching esoteric subjects more and more, until everything just clicked one day

It didn't enlighten me, like I said, it just sort of nudged me in the right direction

No proof, just a theory of mine, but I never liked the "prison planet loosh farm" theory because it's clearly based on fear, which is the archons' MO, it always seemed like THAT was the lie, not the "reincarnation trap"

>>40844080
>I still remember, though, I saw the tessellations exactly as you describe, it was very emotional and moving, and nothing's been the same for me since
I can't say if they're emotional for me. My earliest memory of them would've traced back since I was 3 years old. They're very much normal in my opinion, but everyone has a different idea of normal.

A resurgence happened around a few years ago. Many different entities, and the lovebombing is real. Common theme is that they are happy that you've returned, even if you do not remember. These days I do not receive such treatment, since I'm not very responsive to praise in neither waking or alternative states.

As for astral planes, the lower ones are filled with those who are attached to the mortal world and/or unfamiliar with the existence after death. This is where the vast majority of mankind goes, even the religious. It relies upon the negative biases of state-of-being as its primary means of control. For those cognizant enough, the seemingly impossible things in a mortal life seem oddly achievable with ease, with such indulgences, why would they ever be aware enough to leave? The upper astral planes does the opposite where its primary means of control are positive. You can have anything you could ever possibly want, so you do not want to leave such a pleasant place?

The astral planes, and their respective levels and subcompartments, are for those who let those attachments consume them. All borne of physical body are born with sin (attachment) and carry them along, and the only way to be forgiven of them is to let them go, because those identities and attachments don't actually belong to you. They were given to you like a gift, and you must return them in due time. Those who cannot will be stuck. It's just a really big mental asylum.

>>40839718 (OP)
I see. So basically you just have to.. work your way up?

>>40839922
>We have options, reincarnate or back to the Source.
False dictonomy. What this really means is:
>either erase your memories and become a puppet of fate again or erase your self and become a puppet of the Source™
>either become a puppet or become a puppet
Which actually means we have no options at all.
The Truth will set us free, and this is no freedom at all. How can this be the Truth?
Reincarnation is the original psyop. You’re coerced into a process where your only presented choices are to submit and surrender and if you dare to question it you get gaslit. Even if we did consent at one time consent can be withdrawn at any time.
There has to be more.

>>40839869
>I hate this idea a lot.
>I hate reincarnation at it's very core.
>Having to come back to this godless shit-hole of a planet forever sounds like actual hell to me.
>I just want to rest. I'm tired of these awful games.

I feel exactly the same

>>40841469
>This is something like a boss level or challenge mode incarnation. There are nicer places to go.

NO. all these fake options can go to hell.
ANYWHERE THAT IS NOT HEAVEN WITH GOD, IS AUTOMATICALLY ANOTHER VERSION OF HELL.
all options that are not heaven are hell automatically by default.
I ACCEPT ONLY GOD/HEAVEN.

>>40839922
>We have options, reincarnate or back to the Source.

This also sounds like a trap because wont source just give souls amnesia and force them to reincarnate again, so this is a lie.

>We have options, reincarnate or back to the Source.
In other words
>YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES
>REINCARNATE
or
>GO BACK TO SOURCE AND GET FORCED TO GET AMNESIA AND BE FORCED TO REINCARNATE

bullshit scam detected!

>>40841960
>>40842800
honestly I had an NDE and went into creative mode and it was just as depressing as playing creative mode minecraft because it got boring very quickly and was very lonely. trust me you do not want minecraft.

>>40844647
>False dictonomy. What this really means is:
>either erase your memories and become a puppet of fate again or erase your self and become a puppet of the Source™
>either become a puppet or become a puppet

>>40844650
In other words
>YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES
>REINCARNATE
or
>GO BACK TO SOURCE AND GET FORCED TO GET AMNESIA AND BE FORCED TO REINCARNATE


holy shit.
hivemind.

>>40842949
>Not wanting to reincarnate ever again is like not wanting to dream again when you go to sleep.
Then I never want to dream again when I go to sleep.

>>40843506
this is ALL BULLSHIT.
I never agreed to ANY challenge and I reject and disavow and nullify ALL SOUL CONTRACTS.

>>40840154
The reincarnations into 3rd world hells will continue until morale improves

one of the most inhumane and abusive idealogies out there, it's indian, it's jooish, it's woowoo naynay injun and it's barbaric, it's exactly the type of ideology which states a tortured baby or starving child must have wanted the bearings and the starvation and the murder it deserved it in a previous life

utterly evil and worse than psychotic

>>40841985
>destroy(ed) your etheric immunological system by doing drugs

Perhaps Life may vary in her constitutional capacity. Some of us maintain cohesion under the grip of a revelatory psychotropic. Some of us excel at navigating perceptory barriers under the auspices of a psychedelic aegis.

Perhaps you are afraid of psionic pressure. Perhaps you are afraid you will not maintain, that you will go permanently crazy, insane, incoherent.

Rightly so. It takes a courage of a different sort.

>>40842677
I really don't like the "only you can figure it out" theory.
Some people's lives are just survival mode like a wild animal.
I also don't like the idea that we "planned" our lives before being born. It's like if parents let their 6 year old kid smoke cigarettes and drive on the highway because they asked to.
There's nothing to "figure out" when you literally can't. It's like if you get kidnapped and blindfolded and are put in a remote location and then someone asks you to describe the location.
I remember that NDE someone shared here where a Christian woman met two floating entities who told her that none of this was real and she was just allowed to take it seriously while she was alive.
I have gone through so many heart-rending, cruel, and unfair circumstances. I think our lives are just based on luck and there's no objective "mission" we are supposed to complete like in an action movie. I also think that what someone wrote about Umineko describing that our level of reality is controlled by higher beings is true. I don't believe in karma because it's also a concept that blames victims for the abuse inflicted upon them. There actually was a teacher in India, where the concept of karma originated from, called Sri Ramana Maharshi who said that karma is only real for those who believe in it and that all reality comes from the Self.
I read from a Chinese girl that Chinese people traditionally believed that nothing is really true and that what you believe creates reality. In Taoism it also says that infinite potential exists and you can create things from it. I think they also believe in white magic where you use positive words it attracts positive things into your life. I also saw the number 88 (which Chinese people believe is good luck) appear in the "Comment too long" error message after writing that :D And I saw 222 twice and 111 while editing this post.

>>40842677
>>40844978
>I also don't like the idea that we "planned" our lives before being born. It's like if parents let their 6 year old kid smoke cigarettes and drive on the highway because they asked to.
To elaborate on this, it's because I think some of the things someone can go through are unbelievably cruel. But they let us choose to let it happen to us.
I was reading Higurashi recently and started to develop a belief that our souls are basically the "writer" of our lives and we are experiencing our lives as the "characters" in our lives like how Ryukishi07 wrote Higurashi and the characters in Higurashi are experiencing the story from their perspectives based on what he wrote. So I actually do somewhat believe that we planned our lives before we were born. It's also better than believing that we deserved to be abused and other hardships we went through.
I also believe that angels do exist and intervene to save us, because when I truly decided that I was going to kill myself, then something really valuable happened soon after that made me decide not to, and what caused me not to was something that really helped me as well. I think we are supposed to live. I think it's more that there's something valuable that we can achieve by living to the end, and that if we kill ourselves we might be missing out on that important thing.

I also believe in your theories based on what I have read and researched, soul trap and reincarnation trap theories looks childish or probably trying to convey the same information in different way and failing miserbaly, basically attachment and fear makes the matrix or karmic debt whatever you call, if you are worst of human but if you just escape tunnel, you will be saved, this is silly and seems artificial, nature or world doesn't work like this.
Some also here beleive one dose of vaccine can sever connection with soul or God, imagine if scientists or elite had that much power lol, then we better not even try, there is nothing we can do compared to that power.

I may still be wrong but you need to chose something, this is mine for now.

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>>40845018
Ok. What I meant more was that our soul "wrote" our life and we are experiencing our lives from the perspective of the "protagonist" of that story. Not that we are literally everyone in the story. This site needs an edit button

When I hear NDEs, it's always from americans or above intelligence people from West, is it they are all making it up because of their overactive imagination?. Has anybody researched NDEs from different cultures,intelligence, class, race, disability?

>>40839718 (OP)
Archon hands typed this post. The love bomb they blast you with is spiritual heroin. They get you addicted to the experience of reincarnating that way. Every single entity in the astral realms is an enemy and wants to enslave you and drain you of your essence. Kill anything you see on sight. Total demon death.

>>40844650
Multiplayer Minecraft

>>40845101
Kys and take out the archons then you pussy bitch

>>40845857
you already know they wont
>durrr soul trap
poster are always satanic edgelords who larp as tough

>>40845865
>47 karma creation points have been allocated to your next incarnation

>>40846685
Feels good man

death is fake and gay

>>40839718 (OP)
this resonates

This whole thread glows.

>>40839718 (OP)
You say that the soul is too powerful for some stupid lizard to trap and you’re correct, there’s just a problem with this thinking.

It’s true; the human soul is the most powerful thing in the universe, in part due to its divine nature. The problem here lies in the fact that the majority of humans are ignorant to this reality. I don’t know what comes after death, I don’t like to make such bold claims. However, I have been lead to believe that the light you see is indeed a trap. It makes sense. As above, so below. We have to eat to live in this world below, those that live in the world above surely must require some form of energy as well. The concept of beings from the other side using human souls as food isn’t even a modern one; ancient tribalistic beliefs even contained the idea of your soul being consumed in the afterlife.

>>40841523
I didn’t get an answer to this

>>40845018
I can attest that the notion we “planned out lives” in a prior state of existence is horseshit. I look at my life and I know that for a fact because I wouldn’t wish my existence on my worst enemy.

>>40850602
>those that live in the world above surely must require some form of energy as well.
Sure, but what make you think they have to get it from us? Plants get their energy directly from sunlight without having to kill and eat anything, maybe they're the same, maybe they can live off the ambient spiritual energy

>>40845857
I cannot self terminate.

>>40850626
Would you rather have a salad or a steak? Sure, some entities can attain energy without such finality as devouring your soul - I believe this to be the origin of succubi and the reason why some entities can seek to “drain” a human they’ve attached to in this world. And there may be some entities that do simply absorb the “vibes”, but I’d bet my bottom dollar there’s certainly those that are predatory in nature. Even if there are those that are more like a plant, that shouldn’t discount the existence of those that are more like a tiger.

>>40850642
>Would you rather have a salad or a steak?
Honestly depends on how I'm feeling, sometimes I like a salad and sometimes I like a steak

You specifically said "those that live in the world above", though, and succubi and demons generally aren't thought to live there, they live in the world below

>>40850651
>Honestly depends on how I'm feeling, sometimes I like a salad and sometimes I like a steak
Actually scratch this, I generally like to have a salad with my steak

>>40850651
Salads were invented by poor people. Kill that cow, eat your ribeye. I used the “world above” more a continuation of the turn of phrase used prior, not meaning “heavenly” but more meaning the “world beyond”.

It’s my understanding that each soul has its own ‘frequency and vibration’, one that uniquely aligns to the body - the animal, if you will. A human being being a dualist entity - the animal (the body, wracked with all it’s needs and instincts and genetically imprinted behavior) and the soul, the divine spark unique to man (what makes us in “God’s image”). The animal will rot and die one day, and the immortal soul will be released. Where does it go? I can’t say, but I have been lead to understand that your soul will move on to the next world - not that there is one world, but numerous. Your soul will move on to whatever place on the other side best fits the range of its frequency - in the same way that it stayed attached to your body because of your body being able to uniquely receive said frequency.

>>40850716
>Salads were invented by poor people.
And eaten by rich and poor alike

Eat your greens, anon, you need your fibre, no-one lives off meat alone

>>40850724
Fine, but if the broccoli even so much as TOUCHES my Mac and cheese, I’m gonna be mad.

>>40839869
You keep coming back because you refuse to learn how to rely on the infinite for everything. Instead you're back here obsessing over conspiracy theories and whining.

>>40839718 (OP)
>I’ve taken countless heroic doses of psychedelics (shrooms, DMT, LSD, Iboga)
Why do you think frying your brain with drugs is something that will make you more credible?

>>40839718 (OP)
>After you die, if you’re still attached or fearful, you can stay in the lower astral with entities attached to sex
Still clinging to abrahamic erotophobia, huh.

>>40852052
What happens then?

>>40840282
Some people report choosing to move and others are moved automatically. If I have a choice I'm waiting for Jesus to take me to Himself and to The Father.

I don't believe in reincarnation. It's just another of the millions of worldly deceptions we have to deal with.

>>40845068
There are differences
Western, Asian and Islam see a tunnel and light.
Western talks to the light but Asians don't.
Islam reports fewer NDEs on average.
Western and Islam have life reviews but Asains don't.
Asians see the field of flowers but Western sees the field and sometimes mansions/cities.

Hindu is completely different. They are kidnapped by black beings and taken to a city in the woods. They are brought before a black being who they assume is Yamraj (god of death) who yells that his minions brought the wrong person and send the person back and collect the soul of the intended target.

As for the differences I think it's in relation to your belief in God. Asians are majority athiests so they see God as light but don't understand what the light is. Hindus have beliefs not centered around a monolithic god. They could be interacting with demons but have lived with the idea they are part of their spiritual pantheon.

Good thread. I want to know what happens when you die.

>>40852052
That’s not abrahamic dumbass jew
You big noses don’t believe that, you stole and then perverted Tibetan and Zoroastrianism

read Heaven and Hell by Swedenborg
not this drug nonsense
NDE reports of the afterlife realm align well with swedenborg

Based reminder to embrace love

Archons doing damage control already? we are on the right path bros. Do not engage with any entities, be wary and find information after death. Imagine you are put in the middle of the jungle and someone would tell you to just chill and have faith. You would be the first one to get eaten.

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>>40839718 (OP)
cute apu

>>40850602

Truth in memes

>>40840196

You're absolutely correct when saying that God can force you to reincarnate and there's absolutely nothing one can do.

But the question as to why is intrinsically related to our long long past negative karma. Until that's cleared we're bound to reincarnate continuously. And that's God that decides. This universe is a cursed one. The reasons are another story.

>>40840196

Also God is not 'evil', but a punisher* for our transgressions, however long ago they have taken place.

*There's a big difference, that matters a lot in God's eyes.