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the only soul trap is fear
I probably won’t post this often but I wanted to explain in detail what happens after we die. Especially since many here try to scare others from love and light as if it’s a psyop.
I was lucky enough to have a near death experience (though it partially paralyzed me, required years of surgeries & physical therapy), I’ve taken countless heroic doses of psychedelics (shrooms, DMT, LSD, Iboga), im well trained in astral projection, akashic reading, hemisync, & my experiences perfectly align with the teachings of the greatest mystics (Blavatsky, Cayce Steiner), as well as clinical studies/case reports of NDE, past life regressions (by Dr Ray Moody, Dr Brian Weiss, Cannon) plus the ancient traditions like the Egyptian & Tibetan books of the dead or shamanic teachings.
The light and the love you feel from it, that pulls you towards it is not trap
After you die, if you’re still attached or fearful, you can stay in the lower astral with entities attached to sex drugs, power, greed, and control over others. It’s sad & can be a very hot jungle. I saw lots of voodoo and silliness at that level.
But if you see the light and go towards it, you move up to the middle astral realm where most people from this planet are concentrated. It’s a lot like the suburbs you can spend time with people you knew while incarnated before your spirit guides come get you and help you ascend.
Then you have the higher astral, where it’s even more beautiful you’re surrounded by beautiful music, this is where people describe the hall of records or akashic libraries. Here you spend your time learning, planning out what you want to do next on your souls progression.
There’s nothing to fear. Your soul is way too powerful for some stupid lizard to trap.
I wish you all well and hope that you’re always guided in your best interest. Godspeed fellow travelers.
Anonymous No.40839733 [Report] >>40839783
Please continue
Ano No.40839737 [Report] >>40839783 >>40868560 >>40890948
>>40839718 (OP)
this is what I saw last night, thank Anon for your insights.
Anonymous No.40839783 [Report] >>40839789
>>40839733
im always open to questions
>>40839737
based and and and Ibogaine pilled
Ano No.40839789 [Report] >>40839810
>>40839783
no Anon, it was after meditation I got to a lucid dream and I was forcefully tranfer to this realm surrounded by that picrel.
Anonymous No.40839810 [Report]
>>40839789
Good
It’s better to go without a crutch like psychedelics
Keep practicing
Anonymous No.40839869 [Report] >>40839922 >>40839977 >>40841469 >>40844650 >>40852019 >>40855658 >>40890616 >>40896901
>>40839718 (OP)
>planning out what you want to do next on your souls progression

I hate this idea a lot.
I hate reincarnation at it's very core.
Having to come back to this godless shit-hole of a planet forever sounds like actual hell to me.

I just want to rest. I'm tired of these awful games.
Ano No.40839922 [Report] >>40839977 >>40841960 >>40844647 >>40844650 >>40896901
>>40839869
I feel you, from what I know.
We have options, reincarnate or back to the Source.
From NDE, you will have life review from perspective of others that you hurt, if you no longer attach I think there's no reason to choose to reincarnate.
Anonymous No.40839944 [Report] >>40839959 >>40839977 >>40840239
I still dont buy you saw it all. Still sounds like a container to me. Containers inside containers.
Ano No.40839959 [Report] >>40840239
>>40839944
yes, there are layers and layers in a spiral.
what he described is only one layer closest to the current reality.
Anonymous No.40839977 [Report]
>>40839869
Yeah im hoping theres more options than just coming back here. I might need a rest after this life myself
>>40839922
This is how I understand it too
when I was in the higher astral, I couldn’t see what I was studying but it felt like more fun than anything I’ve ever done in flesh.
You’re a wise one anon
>>40839944
You shouldn’t take any one’s word for this. You’ll travel the path yourself. You can choose fear or love. It’s always your choice. Not a archon’s, who runs from light and love
This entities are to be pitied or forgiven, not feared
Anonymous No.40839992 [Report] >>40841985
Anyone who doubts me can read all of these books themselves. Spent years meditating and practicing like I did. Or even take the shortcut by swallowing 1500 mg of Ibogaine, smoke enough DMT
If my message does not resonate with you. It may not be your truth. We may not be similar and your path might be totally different. I’ve crossed into the spirit realm, and my body is covered in scars. I have nothing to prove to anyone because I know the truth through live experience as well as all of it being written down since the beginning of human history in every single language, and in all of the stories told by campfire.
Anonymous No.40840068 [Report] >>40843550
>>40839718 (OP)
This actually resonates deeply with me. The way you described the light as something not to fear but to move toward reminds me of the Gnostic concept of the Monad, that pure source of light, truth, and being. It’s the origin and return point of the soul, beyond the illusions and layers we get tangled in.

What you said about the lower astral being full of attachments: sex, greed, control, fits exactly with what the Archons represent in Gnostic texts. They feed on distraction, fear, and the ego. But the more we recognize the divine spark within, the more transparent those illusions become.

The part about ascending and being guided by spirit allies also mirrors some of the ideas in the Pistis Sophia, where the soul rises through realms and trials, guided by inner wisdom and light, toward a reunification with the true divine.

I think when people meme about “soul traps,” they’re projecting their own fears about losing control. But real gnosis, like you touched on, dissolves fear. It’s not a trap if you’ve remembered who you are.

Thanks for posting this. Stuff like this helps cut through the noise.
Anonymous No.40840154 [Report] >>40844709 >>40896630
>>40839718 (OP)
>Life Review
NGMI
Anonymous No.40840196 [Report] >>40855056 >>40855071
>>40839718 (OP)
>planning out what you want to do next on your souls progression
I know for a fact that I never did and never will have any control over what I experience in life, my life is entirely controlled by a retarded sadistic evil tranny God and there is nothing positive about him or his intentions towards me on earth or in the afterlife whatsoever.

Most likely the "light" at death doesn't necessarily serve a functional purpose, when I die I just get force-reincarnated and likely forced to repeat my life, notionally the light is probably meant to represent a "wormhole" sending my soul back to when I was born, but it won't make a difference whether I go into or not because God will just force reincarnate me anyway and he doesn't really need me to go into the light at all to send me back, it's just "narrative framing" because God is a pretentious retard.
Anonymous No.40840239 [Report]
>>40839944
>>40839959
Picrel baby and it's a fun ride too
Anonymous No.40840282 [Report] >>40840314 >>40840730 >>40842003 >>40842125 >>40843834 >>40853006 >>40890793
>>40839718 (OP)
This is largely true

There's a soul trap after death involving the tunnel of light, but it's the opposite of what people here say

In fact, the trap is ignoring the tunnel of light and trying to escape through the "holes in the soul grid"

There are two astral planes: an upper one and a lower one, the upper world is a pure dimension full of love and light where all of your dreams can come true, and the lower one is more of a mirror of this world, sure, you can do a lot more than you can here, but it kinda sucks, it's full of assholes and there are people who take over parts of the plane and declare it their own personal kingdom, just like here

The goal is to reach the upper astral plane: unlike the lower one, it can't be reached by a living human, no matter how hard you try, and if you think you have you've reached a part of the lower astral where you'll be lovebombed and convinced to try and escape the tunnel of light

It takes time, effort, patience and dedication to be allowed to enter the upper astral, there are no cheat codes, and if you truly deserve to be there, you won't even see a tunnel of light at all, you'll just wake up there after dying

I've never AP'd, I'm just going by what other people have said as well as my own personal experiences

I'm not going to tell you what to do, you have to make that decision on your own, but I hope you'll take what I've said into account

Good luck
Anonymous No.40840314 [Report]
>>40840282
Oh, and to add to this, if you do end up in the lower astral after dying, you will either be there forever or until you finally accept that you have to come back to Earth and do it properly this time, I don't know which one of these is true
Anonymous No.40840468 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
Maybe the lizard wants a fren.
Anonymous No.40840730 [Report]
>>40840282
Oh, sorry, I didn't fully read the OP, you actually said a lot of this already

I wasn't addressing this at you, you clearly know what you're talking about, I was talking to anyone else who might need to read it
Anonymous No.40841160 [Report] >>40841368
Bro this is the most archonic shit I've read today
:DD

>Yes you will be pulled into something without your consent and you'll have a life review where you'll be judged for hurting others in ways that were perfectly planned inside the simulation to cause you guilt but this is all just GOOD okay those feelings are actually good and you shouldn't trust them just trust the process okay shhhhhhh

>Reincarnation GOOD (I might have a bit of a rest myself but we call come back here eventually it's no use fighting it anon I'm a shaman who took shrooms or something fugg :D)
Anonymous No.40841368 [Report]
>>40841160
It sounds like a good deal anon
Anonymous No.40841469 [Report] >>40844650
>>40839869
>Having to come back to this godless shit-hole of a planet forever sounds like actual hell to me.
This is something like a boss level or challenge mode incarnation. There are nicer places to go.
Anonymous No.40841475 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
Fear isn't necessarily a trap. What determines it being a trap is what is feared. There are plenty of other soul traps, ignorance is one of them.
Anonymous No.40841480 [Report] >>40841523
>>40839718 (OP)
you're a liar the afterlife isn't in the astral realm. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Anonymous No.40841523 [Report] >>40841970 >>40841977 >>40850606 >>40855664
>>40841480
Ok what happens when you die anon
Anonymous No.40841960 [Report] >>40842800 >>40844650
>>40839922
>We have options, reincarnate or back to the Source.
What if I want to just fuck around and build my own Minecraft world in peace? Fuck you and fuck your "souls progression".
The afterlife is not some sort of capitalist game of accumulation of "value".
Anonymous No.40841970 [Report]
>>40841523
I promise, afterlife isn't Astral realm.
Anonymous No.40841977 [Report]
>>40841523
If after life was in the Astral realm, every murder case would be solved, amongst many other things.
Anonymous No.40841985 [Report] >>40842541 >>40844730
>>40839992
Not to be a dick, but the books you listed are soccer mom tier new age, and I doubt all your "meditating and practicing" was worth anything if your next step was to go and destroy your etheric immunological system by doing a ton of drugs.
You are also choosing to obviate a ton of occult traditions and native practices that directly contradict your belief system. They describe an afterlife which is an extension of the mechanics of life, where there is predation, misdirection, and even death of the spiritual body.
If approached sober, you can discover in the non-physical realms beings that pose as "source" and proceed to deplete the memories and force of the dead, turning them into spiritual vegetables ready to fall back into the world of matter and reincarnate as ants.

If you think you "know the truth through live experience", all the best to you, but you're either a fool (in the good sense of the word), or fooling yourself (a deathly sin).
Anonymous No.40842003 [Report] >>40842541 >>40842601 >>40842677
>>40840282
The goal is to transcend the astral planes altogether. Those are planes of illusion much as the physical.
>I've never AP'd, I'm just going by what other people have said as well as my own personal experiences
boo

I understand this is 4chan of all places and I shouldn't get too upset for people posting misconceptions and pop spirituality takes, but you are playing with other people's afterlives with your ill advice.
Anonymous No.40842125 [Report] >>40842541 >>40842601 >>40842601 >>40842601
>>40840282
>The goal is to reach the upper astral plane
This is backwards, do you think we were born here with the goal to go there or something?
We come form the higher astral planes and the only reason we went down here is because we were bored of the source and all that.
Anonymous No.40842541 [Report] >>40842949
>>40841985
>>40842003
>>40842125

You are the only person who makes sense in this thread. Please. Tell me. How do I ensure I go as far away from this place as possible, and never reincarnate again?
Anonymous No.40842586 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
>I’ve taken countless heroic doses of psychedelics (shrooms, DMT, LSD, Iboga), im well trained in astral projection, akashic reading, hemisync, & my experiences perfectly align with the teachings of the greatest mystics (Blavatsky, Cayce Steiner), as well as clinical studies/case reports of NDE, past life regressions (by Dr Ray Moody, Dr Brian Weiss, Cannon) plus the ancient traditions like the Egyptian & Tibetan books of the dead or shamanic teachings.
>The light and the love you feel from it, that pulls you towards it is not trap
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Start here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1m0ytpq/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/

Then read this comment:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1m0ytpq/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/n5vpisj/
Anonymous No.40842601 [Report] >>40842677 >>40843506 >>40843514
>>40842003
Well, I probably should've opened that post with "this is just a theory, I have no proof of this", but just because I've never AP'd that doesn't mean I've never had spiritual experiences in my life

What OP is saying makes a lot of sense and matches up with my own experiences almost perfectly, of course we differ in a few details but that's always going to happen

Astral projection, is, in fact, one of the "cheat codes" I mentioned, I've never done it because I've just always had a bad feeling about it, and my life experiences have taught me to trust my intuition at this point

>but you are playing with other people's afterlives with your ill advice.
I didn't say you had to do what I said, I just want people to consider the situation from all angles

What's your theory about the afterlife, then? I'd like to hear it

>>40842125
>This is backwards, do you think we were born here with the goal to go there or something?
Yes

>>40842125
>We come form the higher astral planes
What makes you think that? We were born here on Earth, our evolution might've been guided by higher beings but we definitely come from this planet

>>40842125
>and the only reason we went down here is because we were bored of the source and all that.
I never liked that "it's all just a game God is playing with himself" theory, firstly because I'm pretty sure God doesn't masturbate and secondly because it's a pretty shitty thing to do, that would send all his children, who he loves very much, from the upper astral back to this material dimension of pain and suffering, it's a horrible thing to do to your own child just because you're bored

It's often said that God is capable of going back in time and creating himself, making him the uncreated source, and I think this entire universe is the process of him doing that
Anonymous No.40842657 [Report] >>40842834
>>40839718 (OP)
Quality post OP. It's easy to get demoralized. As corny as this might sound I believe there are people that have been sent or chosen to help guide things along. It's not like out of a movie. They don't even know they're doing it. Some of the smallest gestures by people you don't even know can change the way you look at things forever. I think that's how it works.
Anonymous No.40842677 [Report] >>40844978 >>40845018 >>40845047
>>40842601
Adding to this:

>>40842003
>pop spirituality

I don't read New Age magazines or pop spirituality books, I'm not into horoscopes or anything like that, in fact, the only pop spirituality I consume is what I see here on /x/

The only spiritual texts I read are legitimate ones like the Bible, the Bhagavad Gita and the Tao te Ching

It's like OP said: fear is the real soul trap, fear holds you back, fear is absolutely a useful tool in this world but there's no need for it in the afterlife

Reincarnation is not a bad thing, it's necessary for your development, and the reason you lose all your memories (all your memories are still in your soul, but you lose access to them while you're here, they're basically being held somewhere else on your behalf) and the reason you lose them is because a newborn should not have access to the memories of hundreds, maybe thousands of adult human lifetimes, it'll be far too overwhelming for them

Plus, I hate to say it, but most people really just aren't spiritually developed enough to remember their past lives (this includes me as well, I don't remember them either), do you really want some drunk wifebeating asshole to know that he's the reincarnation of Gilgamesh and Genghis Khan? He'll make it his mission in life to take over the world by force, and since he's the reincarnation of both of them, he'll probably succeed

No-one can teach you the truth, not earthly spiritual teachers, not beings of light from another dimension, only you can figure it out
Anonymous No.40842793 [Report] >>40843671
I am an ignorant, ordinary person and my life is a complete, insane mess so my statement should be taken with a grain of salt.

Astral projection is a funny, interesting thing but what about the whole psychological structures that we have inside us? Astral projection won't solve those. It's those structures that are responsible for all the illusion and ignorance in our lives, the ways we think, feel and react. How we understand - how we create - the world. If we die while these structures are still intact, and if we are conscious after the death of the body somehow - then these structures, which foster our attachment to ourselves and to existence, will influence us to at the very least keep existing in a conditioned manner by those same structures. So we either dissolve these structures right now while alive, or we are going to keep being conditioned by them, and simply astral projecting or fleeing through a white tunnel won't solve anything. We will keep being born because we are psychologically conditioned to do so.
Anonymous No.40842800 [Report] >>40844650
>>40841960
This
I just want to eternally play modded minecraft irl
Anonymous No.40842834 [Report]
>>40842657
As within so without
Anonymous No.40842949 [Report] >>40844700
>>40842541
You probably replied to 3 different unrelated anons.
Anyway, let me try some analogy: You dream that you're a very rich mafioso with a lot of money and bitches, but there's an enemy that wants to kill you, you found about this because you have a mole in his organization, you prepare a plan so that your mole kills him before the attack. You go to sleep awaiting what will happens and how will things go.
And then you wake up, and remember who you are, you weren't this mafioso guy, you have things to attend to in real life, his plans and that world vanished with the dream.
Dying is like that.
Not wanting to reincarnate ever again is like not wanting to dream again when you go to sleep.
Anonymous No.40843506 [Report] >>40844706
>>40842601
>We were born here on Earth, our evolution might've been guided by higher beings but we definitely come from this planet
We selected Earth to be born into, perhaps for the 10000th time, because we got already bored of other planets that didn't pose a challenge.
I always mention the correlation with chess, when you reach a very strong level you join tournaments where there are players of your level, or higher.
They're limited by having at least some rating, so you could go and play the newbies and win all the games.
Nobody does that, everyone tries to find the strongest player they can find, everyone wants to play and beat the world champion.
So earth is the world champion of existence, after dying you can go on vacation to other more pleasuring, painless planets but that'd be like playing a newbie at chess, you'd think it's a waste of time because you want to "beat earth" ASAP, and once here people find a challenge to overcome, one where the stakes seem high because if people knew it's just a game it wouldn't be as immersive.
Anonymous No.40843514 [Report] >>40843612
>>40842601
>I'm pretty sure God doesn't masturbate
As above so below, you have learned doing it is something bad, so that's why you'd think that, in reality they couldn't find a single person that hasn't done it, so you wouldn't find a spirit that hasn't done it, including god.
Anonymous No.40843550 [Report]
>>40840068
based gnower knows what is going on
Anonymous No.40843612 [Report]
>>40843514
That was just a joke, anon, it was a pun on "playing with himself", everyone masturbates, including me and you, and I don't feel bad about it
Anonymous No.40843661 [Report]
May your divine spark burn so bright
that every archon flees its light.
May your Pistis rise through astral night
to reunite – no more to fight.
And when you see the Source in sight,
remember:
We walked the void and made it right
Anonymous No.40843671 [Report]
>>40842793
>I am an ignorant
The total opposite in fact. That was very well stated so thank you. It even motivated me. We need to work on our
ego complexes and suffering complexes. I’ve even read that these are artificial. And they’re the root of our suffering and confusion. The darkness is not solely out there people, it’s not just the institutions, and the religions etc. The suffering itself might be the darkness. Choose not to suffer. That sounds dumb af sorry. But imagine a world where people chose not to listen to their ego suffering
Anonymous No.40843834 [Report] >>40843842
>>40840282
>I'm not going to tell you what to do, you have to make that decision on your own, but I hope you'll take what I've said into account
You're probably one of the few dozen that seems to have witnessed this for yourself, or at least you remember it. Progress sure is slow...
Anonymous No.40843842 [Report] >>40843994
>>40843834
>few dozen
I'm sure there's more than that, I'm just some random guy on the internet and I'm really not that smart, but I think if I could figure it out anyone can

>Progress sure is slow...
Sure is
Anonymous No.40843994 [Report] >>40844080
>>40843842
>I'm sure there's more than that
As much as I'd like to be optimistic, the people that see those tessellations is not particularly high. I see them when I wake up, and it tells me that if I thought I was dreaming that night, I actually wasn't. Those events definitely do not feel like dreams. They are indicators of an OBE.

The only people that I've ever heard experience something like that were on psychoactive substances that are meant to throw them upon the precipice of life and death (i.e. LSD/St. Anthony's Fire).

>I'm just some random guy on the internet and I'm really not that smart, but I think if I could figure it out anyone can
Theoretically, yes. Realistically, it's not easy to. People who pursue this experienced at least enough breakthrough events, primed with the knowledge that things like this exist.

For the average person, they will be caught up in traditions, conflicting beliefs and values, and the daily grind to the point where this will not even be in the running to prioritize.
Anonymous No.40844080 [Report] >>40844478
>>40843994
Huh, well, okay, that's interesting

I admit this all started when I took a certain drug a little while back and had an enlightening experience: I don't want to call it "enlightenment", because while it certainly felt like that at the time, like all drug-induced enlightenments, it went away after a while

I still remember, though, I saw the tessellations exactly as you describe, it was very emotional and moving, and nothing's been the same for me since

I really am just an ordinary person, the only thing that's ever been a bit unusual about me is that I seem unusually good at finding four-leaf clovers, like finding two in the same patch of grass close to each other, bending down to pick what looked like an ordinary clover because it stood out to me and finding out it had four leaves when I looked closely at it, that kind of thing

Other people have commented on this, too, it's not just me
Anonymous No.40844265 [Report] >>40844388
Why do you believe these psychedelic visions as evidence of what the afterlife is like
Anonymous No.40844388 [Report]
>>40844265
Firstly, please reply to my post directly if you want to talk to me

Secondly, this is why I didn't want to mention the drug thing, I knew people would immediately write me off as a junkie hippy like you just did

Drugs can be a great tool, yes, but they can do horrible things to people, too, they can send you to heaven or they can send you to hell, and I've experienced both

I don't think I saw the afterlife, but from then on I started researching esoteric subjects more and more, until everything just clicked one day

It didn't enlighten me, like I said, it just sort of nudged me in the right direction

No proof, just a theory of mine, but I never liked the "prison planet loosh farm" theory because it's clearly based on fear, which is the archons' MO, it always seemed like THAT was the lie, not the "reincarnation trap"
Anonymous No.40844478 [Report]
>>40844080
>I still remember, though, I saw the tessellations exactly as you describe, it was very emotional and moving, and nothing's been the same for me since
I can't say if they're emotional for me. My earliest memory of them would've traced back since I was 3 years old. They're very much normal in my opinion, but everyone has a different idea of normal.

A resurgence happened around a few years ago. Many different entities, and the lovebombing is real. Common theme is that they are happy that you've returned, even if you do not remember. These days I do not receive such treatment, since I'm not very responsive to praise in neither waking or alternative states.

As for astral planes, the lower ones are filled with those who are attached to the mortal world and/or unfamiliar with the existence after death. This is where the vast majority of mankind goes, even the religious. It relies upon the negative biases of state-of-being as its primary means of control. For those cognizant enough, the seemingly impossible things in a mortal life seem oddly achievable with ease, with such indulgences, why would they ever be aware enough to leave? The upper astral planes does the opposite where its primary means of control are positive. You can have anything you could ever possibly want, so you do not want to leave such a pleasant place?

The astral planes, and their respective levels and subcompartments, are for those who let those attachments consume them. All borne of physical body are born with sin (attachment) and carry them along, and the only way to be forgiven of them is to let them go, because those identities and attachments don't actually belong to you. They were given to you like a gift, and you must return them in due time. Those who cannot will be stuck. It's just a really big mental asylum.
Anonymous No.40844484 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
I see. So basically you just have to.. work your way up?
Anonymous No.40844647 [Report] >>40844657
>>40839922
>We have options, reincarnate or back to the Source.
False dictonomy. What this really means is:
>either erase your memories and become a puppet of fate again or erase your self and become a puppet of the Source™
>either become a puppet or become a puppet
Which actually means we have no options at all.
The Truth will set us free, and this is no freedom at all. How can this be the Truth?
Reincarnation is the original psyop. You’re coerced into a process where your only presented choices are to submit and surrender and if you dare to question it you get gaslit. Even if we did consent at one time consent can be withdrawn at any time.
There has to be more.
Anonymous No.40844650 [Report] >>40844657 >>40845153
>>40839869
>I hate this idea a lot.
>I hate reincarnation at it's very core.
>Having to come back to this godless shit-hole of a planet forever sounds like actual hell to me.
>I just want to rest. I'm tired of these awful games.

I feel exactly the same

>>40841469
>This is something like a boss level or challenge mode incarnation. There are nicer places to go.

NO. all these fake options can go to hell.
ANYWHERE THAT IS NOT HEAVEN WITH GOD, IS AUTOMATICALLY ANOTHER VERSION OF HELL.
all options that are not heaven are hell automatically by default.
I ACCEPT ONLY GOD/HEAVEN.

>>40839922
>We have options, reincarnate or back to the Source.

This also sounds like a trap because wont source just give souls amnesia and force them to reincarnate again, so this is a lie.

>We have options, reincarnate or back to the Source.
In other words
>YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES
>REINCARNATE
or
>GO BACK TO SOURCE AND GET FORCED TO GET AMNESIA AND BE FORCED TO REINCARNATE

bullshit scam detected!

>>40841960
>>40842800
honestly I had an NDE and went into creative mode and it was just as depressing as playing creative mode minecraft because it got boring very quickly and was very lonely. trust me you do not want minecraft.
Anonymous No.40844657 [Report]
>>40844647
>False dictonomy. What this really means is:
>either erase your memories and become a puppet of fate again or erase your self and become a puppet of the Source™
>either become a puppet or become a puppet

>>40844650
In other words
>YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES
>REINCARNATE
or
>GO BACK TO SOURCE AND GET FORCED TO GET AMNESIA AND BE FORCED TO REINCARNATE


holy shit.
hivemind.
Anonymous No.40844700 [Report]
>>40842949
>Not wanting to reincarnate ever again is like not wanting to dream again when you go to sleep.
Then I never want to dream again when I go to sleep.
Anonymous No.40844706 [Report]
>>40843506
this is ALL BULLSHIT.
I never agreed to ANY challenge and I reject and disavow and nullify ALL SOUL CONTRACTS.
Anonymous No.40844709 [Report] >>40859645
>>40840154
The reincarnations into 3rd world hells will continue until morale improves

one of the most inhumane and abusive idealogies out there, it's indian, it's jooish, it's woowoo naynay injun and it's barbaric, it's exactly the type of ideology which states a tortured baby or starving child must have wanted the bearings and the starvation and the murder it deserved it in a previous life

utterly evil and worse than psychotic
Anonymous No.40844730 [Report]
>>40841985
>destroy(ed) your etheric immunological system by doing drugs

Perhaps Life may vary in her constitutional capacity. Some of us maintain cohesion under the grip of a revelatory psychotropic. Some of us excel at navigating perceptory barriers under the auspices of a psychedelic aegis.

Perhaps you are afraid of psionic pressure. Perhaps you are afraid you will not maintain, that you will go permanently crazy, insane, incoherent.

Rightly so. It takes a courage of a different sort.
Anonymous No.40844978 [Report] >>40845018
>>40842677
I really don't like the "only you can figure it out" theory.
Some people's lives are just survival mode like a wild animal.
I also don't like the idea that we "planned" our lives before being born. It's like if parents let their 6 year old kid smoke cigarettes and drive on the highway because they asked to.
There's nothing to "figure out" when you literally can't. It's like if you get kidnapped and blindfolded and are put in a remote location and then someone asks you to describe the location.
I remember that NDE someone shared here where a Christian woman met two floating entities who told her that none of this was real and she was just allowed to take it seriously while she was alive.
I have gone through so many heart-rending, cruel, and unfair circumstances. I think our lives are just based on luck and there's no objective "mission" we are supposed to complete like in an action movie. I also think that what someone wrote about Umineko describing that our level of reality is controlled by higher beings is true. I don't believe in karma because it's also a concept that blames victims for the abuse inflicted upon them. There actually was a teacher in India, where the concept of karma originated from, called Sri Ramana Maharshi who said that karma is only real for those who believe in it and that all reality comes from the Self.
I read from a Chinese girl that Chinese people traditionally believed that nothing is really true and that what you believe creates reality. In Taoism it also says that infinite potential exists and you can create things from it. I think they also believe in white magic where you use positive words it attracts positive things into your life. I also saw the number 88 (which Chinese people believe is good luck) appear in the "Comment too long" error message after writing that :D And I saw 222 twice and 111 while editing this post.
Anonymous No.40845018 [Report] >>40845047 >>40850621
>>40842677
>>40844978
>I also don't like the idea that we "planned" our lives before being born. It's like if parents let their 6 year old kid smoke cigarettes and drive on the highway because they asked to.
To elaborate on this, it's because I think some of the things someone can go through are unbelievably cruel. But they let us choose to let it happen to us.
I was reading Higurashi recently and started to develop a belief that our souls are basically the "writer" of our lives and we are experiencing our lives as the "characters" in our lives like how Ryukishi07 wrote Higurashi and the characters in Higurashi are experiencing the story from their perspectives based on what he wrote. So I actually do somewhat believe that we planned our lives before we were born. It's also better than believing that we deserved to be abused and other hardships we went through.
I also believe that angels do exist and intervene to save us, because when I truly decided that I was going to kill myself, then something really valuable happened soon after that made me decide not to, and what caused me not to was something that really helped me as well. I think we are supposed to live. I think it's more that there's something valuable that we can achieve by living to the end, and that if we kill ourselves we might be missing out on that important thing.
Anonymous No.40845046 [Report]
I also believe in your theories based on what I have read and researched, soul trap and reincarnation trap theories looks childish or probably trying to convey the same information in different way and failing miserbaly, basically attachment and fear makes the matrix or karmic debt whatever you call, if you are worst of human but if you just escape tunnel, you will be saved, this is silly and seems artificial, nature or world doesn't work like this.
Some also here beleive one dose of vaccine can sever connection with soul or God, imagine if scientists or elite had that much power lol, then we better not even try, there is nothing we can do compared to that power.

I may still be wrong but you need to chose something, this is mine for now.
Anonymous No.40845047 [Report]
>>40842677
>>40845018
Ok. What I meant more was that our soul "wrote" our life and we are experiencing our lives from the perspective of the "protagonist" of that story. Not that we are literally everyone in the story. This site needs an edit button
Anonymous No.40845068 [Report] >>40853145 >>40859765
When I hear NDEs, it's always from americans or above intelligence people from West, is it they are all making it up because of their overactive imagination?. Has anybody researched NDEs from different cultures,intelligence, class, race, disability?
Anonymous No.40845101 [Report] >>40845857
>>40839718 (OP)
Archon hands typed this post. The love bomb they blast you with is spiritual heroin. They get you addicted to the experience of reincarnating that way. Every single entity in the astral realms is an enemy and wants to enslave you and drain you of your essence. Kill anything you see on sight. Total demon death.
Anonymous No.40845153 [Report]
>>40844650
Multiplayer Minecraft
Anonymous No.40845857 [Report] >>40845865 >>40850627
>>40845101
Kys and take out the archons then you pussy bitch
Anonymous No.40845865 [Report] >>40846685
>>40845857
you already know they wont
>durrr soul trap
poster are always satanic edgelords who larp as tough
Anonymous No.40846685 [Report] >>40847635
>>40845865
>47 karma creation points have been allocated to your next incarnation
Anonymous No.40847635 [Report]
>>40846685
Feels good man
Anonymous No.40848915 [Report]
death is fake and gay
Anonymous No.40849529 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
this resonates
Anonymous No.40849765 [Report]
This whole thread glows.
Anonymous No.40850602 [Report] >>40850626 >>40854980 >>40854989
>>40839718 (OP)
You say that the soul is too powerful for some stupid lizard to trap and you’re correct, there’s just a problem with this thinking.

It’s true; the human soul is the most powerful thing in the universe, in part due to its divine nature. The problem here lies in the fact that the majority of humans are ignorant to this reality. I don’t know what comes after death, I don’t like to make such bold claims. However, I have been lead to believe that the light you see is indeed a trap. It makes sense. As above, so below. We have to eat to live in this world below, those that live in the world above surely must require some form of energy as well. The concept of beings from the other side using human souls as food isn’t even a modern one; ancient tribalistic beliefs even contained the idea of your soul being consumed in the afterlife.
Anonymous No.40850606 [Report] >>40869832
>>40841523
I didn’t get an answer to this
Anonymous No.40850621 [Report] >>40865234
>>40845018
I can attest that the notion we “planned out lives” in a prior state of existence is horseshit. I look at my life and I know that for a fact because I wouldn’t wish my existence on my worst enemy.
Anonymous No.40850626 [Report] >>40850642
>>40850602
>those that live in the world above surely must require some form of energy as well.
Sure, but what make you think they have to get it from us? Plants get their energy directly from sunlight without having to kill and eat anything, maybe they're the same, maybe they can live off the ambient spiritual energy
Anonymous No.40850627 [Report]
>>40845857
I cannot self terminate.
Anonymous No.40850642 [Report] >>40850651
>>40850626
Would you rather have a salad or a steak? Sure, some entities can attain energy without such finality as devouring your soul - I believe this to be the origin of succubi and the reason why some entities can seek to “drain” a human they’ve attached to in this world. And there may be some entities that do simply absorb the “vibes”, but I’d bet my bottom dollar there’s certainly those that are predatory in nature. Even if there are those that are more like a plant, that shouldn’t discount the existence of those that are more like a tiger.
Anonymous No.40850651 [Report] >>40850657 >>40850716
>>40850642
>Would you rather have a salad or a steak?
Honestly depends on how I'm feeling, sometimes I like a salad and sometimes I like a steak

You specifically said "those that live in the world above", though, and succubi and demons generally aren't thought to live there, they live in the world below
Anonymous No.40850657 [Report]
>>40850651
>Honestly depends on how I'm feeling, sometimes I like a salad and sometimes I like a steak
Actually scratch this, I generally like to have a salad with my steak
Anonymous No.40850716 [Report] >>40850724
>>40850651
Salads were invented by poor people. Kill that cow, eat your ribeye. I used the “world above” more a continuation of the turn of phrase used prior, not meaning “heavenly” but more meaning the “world beyond”.

It’s my understanding that each soul has its own ‘frequency and vibration’, one that uniquely aligns to the body - the animal, if you will. A human being being a dualist entity - the animal (the body, wracked with all it’s needs and instincts and genetically imprinted behavior) and the soul, the divine spark unique to man (what makes us in “God’s image”). The animal will rot and die one day, and the immortal soul will be released. Where does it go? I can’t say, but I have been lead to understand that your soul will move on to the next world - not that there is one world, but numerous. Your soul will move on to whatever place on the other side best fits the range of its frequency - in the same way that it stayed attached to your body because of your body being able to uniquely receive said frequency.
Anonymous No.40850724 [Report] >>40850729
>>40850716
>Salads were invented by poor people.
And eaten by rich and poor alike

Eat your greens, anon, you need your fibre, no-one lives off meat alone
Anonymous No.40850729 [Report]
>>40850724
Fine, but if the broccoli even so much as TOUCHES my Mac and cheese, I’m gonna be mad.
Anonymous No.40852019 [Report]
>>40839869
You keep coming back because you refuse to learn how to rely on the infinite for everything. Instead you're back here obsessing over conspiracy theories and whining.
Anonymous No.40852032 [Report] >>40890831
>>40839718 (OP)
>I’ve taken countless heroic doses of psychedelics (shrooms, DMT, LSD, Iboga)
Why do you think frying your brain with drugs is something that will make you more credible?
Anonymous No.40852052 [Report] >>40852794 >>40853779
>>40839718 (OP)
>After you die, if you’re still attached or fearful, you can stay in the lower astral with entities attached to sex
Still clinging to abrahamic erotophobia, huh.
Anonymous No.40852794 [Report]
>>40852052
What happens then?
Anonymous No.40853006 [Report]
>>40840282
Some people report choosing to move and others are moved automatically. If I have a choice I'm waiting for Jesus to take me to Himself and to The Father.

I don't believe in reincarnation. It's just another of the millions of worldly deceptions we have to deal with.
Anonymous No.40853145 [Report] >>40864062
>>40845068
There are differences
Western, Asian and Islam see a tunnel and light.
Western talks to the light but Asians don't.
Islam reports fewer NDEs on average.
Western and Islam have life reviews but Asains don't.
Asians see the field of flowers but Western sees the field and sometimes mansions/cities.

Hindu is completely different. They are kidnapped by black beings and taken to a city in the woods. They are brought before a black being who they assume is Yamraj (god of death) who yells that his minions brought the wrong person and send the person back and collect the soul of the intended target.

As for the differences I think it's in relation to your belief in God. Asians are majority athiests so they see God as light but don't understand what the light is. Hindus have beliefs not centered around a monolithic god. They could be interacting with demons but have lived with the idea they are part of their spiritual pantheon.
Anonymous No.40853167 [Report]
Good thread. I want to know what happens when you die.
Anonymous No.40853779 [Report]
>>40852052
That’s not abrahamic dumbass jew
You big noses don’t believe that, you stole and then perverted Tibetan and Zoroastrianism
Anonymous No.40853994 [Report]
read Heaven and Hell by Swedenborg
not this drug nonsense
NDE reports of the afterlife realm align well with swedenborg
Anonymous No.40854676 [Report]
Based reminder to embrace love
Anonymous No.40854745 [Report] >>40855550
Archons doing damage control already? we are on the right path bros. Do not engage with any entities, be wary and find information after death. Imagine you are put in the middle of the jungle and someone would tell you to just chill and have faith. You would be the first one to get eaten.
Migga Biscuit !!zell5Pyomx/ No.40854980 [Report]
>>40850602
Anonymous No.40854986 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
cute apu
Migga Biscuit !!zell5Pyomx/ No.40854989 [Report]
>>40850602

Truth in memes
Miri2019 No.40855056 [Report]
>>40840196

You're absolutely correct when saying that God can force you to reincarnate and there's absolutely nothing one can do.

But the question as to why is intrinsically related to our long long past negative karma. Until that's cleared we're bound to reincarnate continuously. And that's God that decides. This universe is a cursed one. The reasons are another story.
Miri2019 No.40855071 [Report]
>>40840196

Also God is not 'evil', but a punisher* for our transgressions, however long ago they have taken place.

*There's a big difference, that matters a lot in God's eyes.
Anonymous No.40855538 [Report] >>40871326
>>40839718 (OP)
You can tell a thread is good when namefags start shitting it up
Skip all namefags posts without reading them. Keep 4chan for anonymous people only
Anonymous No.40855550 [Report]
>>40854745
Yes anon, be fearful of everything and close your ears off to everyone who doesn't reinforce that fear, the archons would hate that, after all
Anonymous No.40855565 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
>>40839718 (OP)
Stfu you're an idiot and gonna get mind wiped.
This is literally what happens and if you go in that portal your memories and identity will be erased and you'll be reincarnated.,
Anonymous No.40855577 [Report] >>40859374
>>40839718 (OP)
>hur dur I planed to be poor and a disabled incel
Anonymous No.40855613 [Report]
The light is a lie, they bath you in it to get you compliant. You don't choose shit literally, you don't even remember anything about your past self. Why do you think humans have then need to figure everything out what really happens after we die? That's our soul screaming out to you to figure it out so it doesn't happen again. We're in a soul trap because these Mantids and grays were to scared of how powerful we really are. don't got into the portal.
Anonymous No.40855640 [Report] >>40855733
Can you ever recover after burning your brain with antidepressants?
I can logically see something's off, but I can't "feel" it
Anonymous No.40855658 [Report]
>>40839869
You will have to cross the river to the white island in the middle of it.
Anonymous No.40855664 [Report]
>>40841523
You start all over again, indefinitely.
Same life, same stuff, over and over again.
Anonymous No.40855733 [Report]
>>40855640

When you're out of your body, you realize that's the real world compared to being in it which is like to being in a dream. Think of what you're experiencing now as trying to use a pc that has a failing hardware problem. When you go away from the PC you don't experience that problem anymore.
Anonymous No.40855910 [Report] >>40856673 >>40857288
ill consider incarnation again only if i keep my memories in tact, otherwise no thanks
Anonymous No.40856090 [Report] >>40858134
So what happens when you die
Anonymous No.40856099 [Report] >>40856673
>>40839718 (OP)
Is it possible to still feel that fear, but be able to push yourself past it and ascend into this light? Surely bravery counts when there isn’t absence of fear
Anonymous No.40856673 [Report] >>40856696 >>40862465
>>40855910
Yes. Most planets aren’t memory wiped like ours. According to RA material, QHHT practitioners incarnating closer to the center of galaxies will give you more past life memories. We’re currently on an outer arm of the spiral.
I even incarnated as a guardian spirit where I had no body. I essentially just lived as transparent consciousness in the wind and I protected a pack of animals
>>40856099
I think so. Most NDE describe the light as so full of love it draws you in and fills every cell in your body. Same with DMT
Anonymous No.40856696 [Report]
>>40856673
>According to RA material, QHHT practitioners incarnating closer to the center of galaxies will give you more past life memories.
Yeah well according to GAY material, Jesus once accidentally stubbed his toe and said "ouch"
Anonymous No.40857288 [Report]
>>40855910
You’re the boss when it comes to incarnation. The soul gets to do whatever you want.
Anonymous No.40858134 [Report] >>40859754 >>40890629
>>40856090
>What we know
Depending on what culture or region you're from, you could see yourself while floating above your body, 360 degree vision, a tunnel, a light, a life review, a beautiful garden, space, possibly your pets or ancestors, a spirit guide, Something call "the source"?, an overwhelming feeling of love and compassion. People who can't let go or resist tend to have a hellish/nightmare-like NDE. NDEs are rare and iirc there's a 90% chance of you seeing nothing.
>What we don't know
Why are NDEs so similar but aren't exactly the same, Why do some people remember while others don't, What happens after, What is "the source", if NDEs are just an evolutionary trait.
Anonymous No.40858201 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
>I wanted to explain in detail what happens after we die
This is completely useless because it only applies to you and your own consciousness. The fact is that every consciousness ascends to its own afterlife. After your death, EXACTLY what (you) EXPECT awaits you.
Anonymous No.40859175 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
Read them in this order, you will understand the soul trap
1. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36931222/#36931222
2. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36976168/#36976168
3. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37023268/#37023268
4. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37093515/#37093515
5. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37134196/#37134196
6. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37237392/#37237392
7. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37333243/#37333243
Anonymous No.40859374 [Report] >>40874926
>>40855577

God will give you what you ask for. Enjoy your disability and celibacy

I’m praying you get many disabilities and no sex ever again
Anonymous No.40859645 [Report]
>>40844709
NTA. I don't know if racial souls are a thing, I'm very much a novice in all this. If there's something after this (I'm a filthy agnostic), I kind of buy into the deal that not all humans are the same strength of Soul.
Anonymous No.40859754 [Report]
>>40858134
The only thing that really frightens me is reincarnation. Hearing that our memories are wiped and its a trap has messed with my head
Anonymous No.40859765 [Report] >>40859777
>>40845068
Anon, a big thing about NDE research is they try to get all swathes of people and then still find similar things. My book says of people who get fucked up in the way to report and NDE and come back, only 20% report they had one. Of that like 70-80% are positive and made the person near death happy coming away from it. Of that 3/4 something like 20-50% (I forget this figure mostly) are not just "good vibes," They are the ones that are like "I walked with a higher being and said we're here to just chill and learn."

As an agnostic, yes NDEs can just be your brain getting high from oxygen deprivation, but the thing that stands out to me is how most of them are so positive and your brain never does anything nice to you. Why would your asshole brain ever do anything nice for you? If NDEs are a survival strategy to flood your brain with chemicals, how would that have evolved? NDEs in a monkey human ancestor, up to humans, in antiquity would happen from blood loss from being eaten by an animal, that or heart attacks. How does flooding your brain with chemicals make an animal spare you after already eating your heart or how would it pull you out of a heart attack at 50 where you won't even be a breeding human? I guess NDEs could have specifically evolved from monkey falls. You don't necessarily have tons of broken bones that would kill you you're just knocked out and if you don't fire all neurons your body starts to shut down without a hard restart. Either way. I don't know if it's real or not, but I believe in them sort of because they don't come off as fake. They are very transformative and make the vast majority of people who have them very happy with life and more invigorated to play this (possible) videogame and stop moping about dying a decade or two later.

Also, I don't have faith, but my logic on why God is so quiet is because we straight up are not supposed to know this is all a dream because it cheapens the illusion.
Anonymous No.40859777 [Report]
>>40859765
Also, even though a possible model for the other side of the veil is that we're all these 4d eternal all encompassing beings where time doesn't matter. In that model it's easy to continue to not let NDErs retain their memories. It's logical the reason they come back and retain memories is because you can't strip that from someone. Even if you "partially" wake up from the dream, by like the hard math of order of events some reach the point of literally brushing up against the other side but they still have to come back here and nothing can change that.
Anonymous No.40860416 [Report] >>40862400
i want to explore the astral plane or exterrisinal begins, after the manipulator who claimed he is from saturn, that he has mighty supernatural powers and used me. So i want to see it myself, what can I do?
Anonymous No.40860514 [Report] >>40860561
>>40839718 (OP)
Fear or no fear
Anonymous No.40860561 [Report]
>>40860514
This is perfect if you just flip Vril Society and OCTRA
Anonymous No.40862400 [Report]
>>40860416
Meditation practices
Binaural beats is a good tool
Psychedelics to grow new neurons and thin the veil but high doses can be hard to control and methylene blue to detoxify your brain
All natural diet depending on your blood type
Breathing exercises
Sage your living space
Crystals and orgone too
Set your intentions before meditation and psychedelics
Practice divination (tarot, runes, I Ching, scrying, akashic reading, etc) to sharpen your intuition
Anonymous No.40862465 [Report]
>>40856673
More info on this?
Anonymous No.40863190 [Report]
Do we have to come back to this bullshit world?
I'd rather not fampai
Anonymous No.40864062 [Report] >>40864069 >>40864236 >>40864787 >>40864835
>>40853145
So this just proves that these NDEs are simulations. It's just more of these astral parasites fucking with us as always.
Anonymous No.40864069 [Report] >>40864085
>>40864062
dude nothing is real. NOTHING
Anonymous No.40864085 [Report]
>>40864069
at all
Anonymous No.40864219 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
no, is our stupid and lost believe
Anonymous No.40864236 [Report]
>>40864062
yep, I always see these threads and then the more you read on, the veil starts lifting.. I just don't believe we're told/shown all this knowledge and then allowed to come back.
Anonymous No.40864787 [Report]
>>40864062
Weird.
Anonymous No.40864835 [Report]
>>40864062
Reality speaks in the symbolism that is most readily integrated by your subconscious(preconscious) design. The more expanded awareness becomes the more truth can be understood. Nothing is ever about the phenomenon(kenomic projection), it's about the noumenal truth(pleromic light) that causes the projection.

The more expanded awareness becomes, the more self-similar it is to truth, and the less shadow that is cast when light is shown upon it. When someone is en-light-ened there is no longer any residue there to cast a shadow, because the Self-similarity is fully realized.
Anonymous No.40865234 [Report]
>>40850621
Try praying. And while praying for changes might be too much of a mountain to move, try praying and offering up your pain.
Anonymous No.40867183 [Report] >>40867723 >>40868540 >>40870998 >>40879768
Sometimes it takes a few wash cycles to be clean.
Anonymous No.40867723 [Report]
>>40867183
hmm
Anonymous No.40868540 [Report]
>>40867183
Very true
Anonymous No.40868560 [Report]
>>40839737
The beautiful active void of chaos
The spirit realm
Anonymous No.40868582 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
Nah. You come back due to identification and obsession with the ego. Your ego chooses for you to reincarnate and the other ego's, usually family members, convince you as well. It's like your family members convincing you to marry so and so person, so you get convinced, then end up misereable your whole life.

You see in the end, you will neither trust your ego, life, nor anyone else. To escape the matrix, nobody is your friend but God.
Anonymous No.40868692 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
Who’s a cute little frog? You are! You are!! :DD
Anonymous No.40869786 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
based knower
Anonymous No.40869832 [Report] >>40890632
>>40850606
You literally can’t read
> After you die, if you’re still attached or fearful, you can stay in the lower astral with entities attached to sex drugs, power, greed, and control over others. It’s sad & can be a very hot jungle. I saw lots of voodoo and silliness at that level.
But if you see the light and go towards it, you move up to the middle astral realm where most people from this planet are concentrated. It’s a lot like the suburbs you can spend time with people you knew while incarnated before your spirit guides come get you and help you ascend.
Then you have the higher astral, where it’s even more beautiful you’re surrounded by beautiful music, this is where people describe the hall of records or akashic libraries. Here you spend your time learning, planning out what you want to do next on your souls progression.
Anonymous No.40869840 [Report] >>40871238 >>40871419 >>40873030 >>40873221 >>40873290
>>40839718 (OP)
Reincarnation and afterlives are not real and neither are lights in the tunnel or soul traps. The body is a vessel for consciousness and once the body is gone so is the consciousness associated with it, FOREVER. Nobody will judge you and you aren't going anywhere after, you simply cease to exist. They can create unlimited humans on the other hand so life will never stop existing here on earth. The creation is eternal and the creator can experience himself eternally, you are not on the other hand.
Anonymous No.40870914 [Report]
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Anonymous No.40870998 [Report]
>>40867183
actually a good point.. but I assumed certain souls went through a stage of purification
Anonymous No.40871238 [Report]
>>40869840
Migga Biscuit !!zell5Pyomx/ No.40871326 [Report]
>>40855538

This anon here is based af. Death to namers.
Migga Biscuit !!zell5Pyomx/ No.40871419 [Report]
>>40869840

Nah, you wake up in base reality hopefully.
Anonymous No.40871446 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
Blessed
Anonymous No.40873021 [Report]
Interesting travels anon
Anonymous No.40873030 [Report]
>>40869840
Realistically anyone that would be scared on a deathbed, which is maybe 90% of everyone, is worried about this being true. But. Kind of weird we're here anyway. The way us humans create, and we DO create beautiful things and we're just mud monkeys, it's not too crazy to believe in a Creator. It's okay to find new-Age faith in NDEs because they say things that make sense.
Anonymous No.40873073 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
Does anyone know if Blavatsky, Cayce, or Steiner even talked about loosh or the reptoids or the archons specifically? I don't think they ever did?
Anonymous No.40873221 [Report] >>40875484
>>40869840
What is this thing from? I see it posted a lot.
Anonymous No.40873290 [Report] >>40876149
>>40869840
I can get behind this theory but the only thing is I kinda believe in quantum immortality too only because I get strong emotional trigger based dreams of different futures that seem real. Unless the creator is bleeding some of the memories onto me. I also have what I feel are like ancestoral memories that are me but maybe in the programmed into the DNA? I also had dreams of being someone else in a technological advanced society but I was a child being used for an experiment along with other children and we were excited about being experimented on even though I wouldn’t like that myself personally. It could just be bullshit in the end and I just have a very creative mind going wild. Even if someone told me the truth about reality I would probably be like oh ok.
Anonymous No.40873352 [Report] >>40873459
>>40839718 (OP)
Thank you bro for sharing that info (even though I can not prove it to myself) — I'm really grateful for that !
But it's still doesn't answer the problems:
What is my purpose here and how to know one (asking for not myself only but for everyone)??
Why this world treat some people like shit if they're a bit different from others? Like if you not procrastinating good and have low social status? And if you're successful for money/sex/status — lots of people will literally suck your dick...
Anonymous No.40873459 [Report]
>>40873352
Could be a trap
Anonymous No.40874080 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
Thanks for this. I'm curious about astral projection and lucid dreaming, could you share some good ways to go about doing either of them? :-) Or if anyone else has some they want to share lol
Anonymous No.40874926 [Report]
>>40859374
You are idiot
Get better
Anonymous No.40875484 [Report]
>>40873221
https://youtu.be/Ntf5_ue2Lzw
Anonymous No.40875607 [Report]
>the only soul trap is fear
I'm too fear attached. I don't think it's ever going to go away. I look at those emotion frequency charts and fear is even lower than anger. I am lower than angry people.
Anonymous No.40875922 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
The real thing was traps us is ignorance and belief in something that doesn't exist and then fear because we can't control it while we haven't even asked why, biological nature is to instinctively avoid things we don't know or can't control the body, causing stress in front of something that we believe can kill us, so we end up beating ourselves up because our brain is crazy, so we conclude that we're afraid.
Anonymous No.40876050 [Report]
https://youtu.be/JbwvefZ6-Fc
Anonymous No.40876099 [Report] >>40876133
https://youtu.be/JbwvefZ6-Fc
Anonymous No.40876133 [Report]
>>40876099
You think soulgroups are tied to racial dna or that souls groups shards are randomly scattered throughout all the races? If this soulstuff is bound to dna it would make sense then why the jews are so keen on preserving their little groups dna

They seem to want to steal all the good dna of whites though, by marrying succesful white males to one of their dna stealer jewesses?? Doesnt this also create unhappy half souls in the world, just to steal some succesful dna. Cruel.
So trump bassically is donating his dna through ivanka to the tribe and through some of his sons? What about his soulgroup though doesnt he realize the damage done on a soul level? Are white and jew souls even compatible or doe they create a double soul in 1 body thing where 1 soul tribe just suffers?
Anonymous No.40876149 [Report] >>40877476
>>40873290
>memories that are me but maybe in the programmed into the DNA
Most likely, not some creator bleeding memories into you that's wishful thinking.
Anonymous No.40877476 [Report] >>40878135
>>40876149
Nope,
Akashic field, prarabdha karma etc.
Soul cords

Demiurgic binds unto your soulshard spark?
Anonymous No.40878135 [Report] >>40885112
>>40877476
None of that shit is real.
Anonymous No.40879768 [Report]
>>40867183
Deep.
Anonymous No.40881739 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
bumping to read later
Anonymous No.40883886 [Report]
Blessed astral travels for all
Anonymous No.40885112 [Report]
>>40878135
Just go back to r/science faggot bitch.
Anonymous No.40885194 [Report]
https://chatgpt.com/share/68980131-5d98-8003-bded-e3cd22e07207
Anonymous No.40885469 [Report] >>40887726 >>40889219
>>40839718 (OP)
What about Jesus?
Anonymous No.40886468 [Report] >>40890596
>>40839718 (OP)
Lmao OP still living in illusions. Know thyself or seek the Kingdom of God is all you need.
Anonymous No.40886584 [Report]
Not a single twin flame thread on this board.
Anonymous No.40887726 [Report] >>40892909
>>40885469
No such person
You probably are referring to yeshua the jewish prophet and you can always tap into that consciousness
Anonymous No.40887863 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
Fear leading to seething are the ultimate tool of control, be it by authorities or other, /x/ forces out there.
Anonymous No.40889219 [Report]
>>40885469
MIA for over 2000 years.
Anonymous No.40890596 [Report]
>>40886468
Astral realms are the kingdom of god and you access them through your devine connection
Keep up you fucking faggot
Anonymous No.40890616 [Report]
>>40839869
What if the other side is worse and its like living together in one same white room, with nothing else but each other?
Anonymous No.40890629 [Report]
>>40858134
Thanks anon
Anonymous No.40890632 [Report]
>>40869832
Do you believe that?
Anonymous No.40890793 [Report] >>40892349
>>40840282
Jesus fucking Christ and here we are. First it's this, then it's that. Don't go into the light. Go into the light. Don't go into the light. Go into the light.

I've been here for over 10 years and I've seen you fucks flip flop back and forth on this.

Does any of it even matter? Does it honestly?
Anonymous No.40890831 [Report]
>>40852032
Why do you think that thoughts and feelings of normalfags matter?
Anonymous No.40890948 [Report]
>>40839737
the astral?
Anonymous No.40891373 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
I don't know what to think anymore.
Anonymous No.40891967 [Report]
Only teenagers are comforted by the idea of being surrounded by their own planning and design. It's a complete disconnect from everything unseen and the divine.
Anonymous No.40892349 [Report] >>40896958
>>40890793
i know this realm is all fake. i don't see why the astral realms wouldn't be fake too. all i want is to not exist on any level. everyone wants to go here or there or do this or that or reincarnate or not reincarnate or be one with god or spend eternity with the source etc etc etc.
i don't want any if it. i want total annihilation of my consciousness. nothing to do. nobody to do it. nothing to miss. nobody to miss it. and i never existed and i never will exist. i think that's the only way out. i don't know if it's possible.
Anonymous No.40892909 [Report]
>>40887726
What does that mean? How?
Anonymous No.40893055 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
Terrorism is not any different from bad parenting.
Anonymous No.40894871 [Report] >>40895904
Bump
Anonymous No.40895904 [Report]
>>40894871
Good thread
Anonymous No.40896401 [Report]
Anyone else relate to fighting against the evil federation in the astral at night? Black ops clearing out the lower astral for God
It's as if the archons/lizards/various cut-off-from-God beings are being attacked by me as I sleep and astral travel, sometimes I wake up with scratches after having a dream about clearing out dark places with spiritual weapons and armor
Anonymous No.40896630 [Report] >>40896912
>>40840154
I mean, unironically this is my fear. My current life isn't total hell. I like myself. I like what I do for a living. Health problems sure, but doing better. I also am not an NPC slave and I have broken through vices (alcohol, drugs) and have always questioned things and sought knowledge. I know its "wrong", but I definitely looked down on certain people...these Indian 30 IQ subhumans whose highest accomplishment in life is being an Uber eats driver...these junkies rolling around in the street covered in infections....but I wonder how, what if in the next life my fate is the same? I'm fearful of that and don't want to come back here.
Anonymous No.40896692 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
what about complacency?
what about comfort?
what about learned helplessness?
mkultralisk programming?
Anonymous No.40896901 [Report] >>40896920 >>40897031 >>40902910
>>40839869
>>40839922
If you don't want to reincarnate, you can stay in Heaven, but you won't learn as much. Plus living is fun. You're having fun. You asked for all of this.
Anonymous No.40896912 [Report] >>40900322
>>40896630
>but I wonder how, what if in the next life my fate is the same? I'm fearful of that and don't want to come back here.

Nta, but you don't have to fear. Accept Jesus Christ (who says not to worry), and I tell you the truth, you will be able to choose your life. You may set the dip switches as they were to hard mode, or medium. Only you know you. So you tell me, will the next life be harder?
Do you love a challenge?
Anonymous No.40896920 [Report] >>40896928
>>40896901
>You asked for all of this.
I can never tell if people who say this are sociopaths or just useful idiots for cosmic sociopaths.
Anonymous No.40896928 [Report] >>40896972 >>40897024
>>40896920
It's the truth, the ultimate one of your existence.
If there's someone in your life that is pestering you, that's a test you demanded. Someone may have tried to talk you out of it before your real body went into the machines (yes tech is constant), but you did it. I can tell you asked for the hardest mode because you're so dismissive. Godspeed.
Anonymous No.40896936 [Report] >>40897147
Yes, life is a game. A dream game.
Art Bell managed to have a guy on that knew about the physical infrastructure of what make this reality possible. Yes, it's a simulation and that's why Mandela Effects are a thing.
Anonymous No.40896958 [Report]
>>40892349
>and i never existed
>i don't know if it's possible
Well, not really because you actually existed, that can't be undone.
But I tell you what I told someone else, cure your depression because when you feel great you no longer want to be totally annihilated, and feeling great is much easier to achieve.
Anonymous No.40896967 [Report] >>40896973 >>40897147
Now you know why scientists are always baffled by the Moon just happens to be where it's at...so much bigger than any other moon in the galaxy. It's huge. It's why so many things happened by coincidence to make life here possible, and elsewhere.
"Physical life" can't exist without being simulated. They are one and the same. That's how the explainable happens. That's how all mysteries of the ages occur.
And God built it.
Anonymous No.40896972 [Report] >>40896984
>>40896928
So you're just a useful idiot and apologist for the cosmic sociopath, but not personally malicious. There are worse things to be. May you never experience the things you dismiss and excuse so blithely.
Anonymous No.40896973 [Report] >>40896988 >>40897147
>>40896967
>so much bigger than any other moon in the galaxy
It's not even the biggest moon in the solar system
Anonymous No.40896984 [Report]
>>40896972
No, I'm telling you from experience. I'm on the side of good. I was made to remember.

>May you never experience the things you dismiss and excuse so blithely.

Thank you, seriously, thank you, but I do know what I imply. I'm just a humble messenger.
Anonymous No.40896988 [Report]
>>40896973
It's pretty damn big compared to most moons and it's close, so close it pulls the water inside our brain cells hard enough to cause madness.
Anonymous No.40897024 [Report] >>40897166
>>40896928
>that's a test you demanded.
No i absolutely didn't and would never do such thing.
You need to stop coping and accept that you are in loosh farm and soul prison
Anonymous No.40897031 [Report]
>>40896901
>Plus hopeless misery and suffering is fun
You disgust and sicken me.
Anonymous No.40897147 [Report] >>40898697
>>40896967
>..so much bigger than any other moon in the galaxy
>>40896973
>It's not even the biggest moon in the solar system
>>40896936
>that's why Mandela Effects are a thing.
Answered in the post above, we used to have the largest known moon, this Ganymede thing is a change.
Anonymous No.40897166 [Report] >>40898090
>>40897024
>You need to stop coping and accept that you are in loosh farm and soul prison
If that's what you're manifesting to yourself then that's absolutely true.
But each lives in its own reality.
So literally, to each its own.
Anonymous No.40898090 [Report]
>>40897166
So true and very based
Indigo twin ray sister No.40898189 [Report] >>40899838
/pol are invading and calling us schizo

Sound the alarm
Anonymous No.40898697 [Report]
>>40897147
It figures.
Anonymous No.40899838 [Report] >>40902467
>>40898189
It’s Mossad not anons from any board
Anonymous No.40900322 [Report] >>40901001
>>40896912
Me in my next life.
Anonymous No.40901001 [Report]
>>40900322
Cool
Anonymous No.40902467 [Report]
>>40899838
Fuck mossad
Anonymous No.40902910 [Report] >>40904725
>>40896901
>Plus living is fun
Have you ever been to Somalia you fuck?
Anonymous No.40904725 [Report]
>>40902910
Why would anyone go there?
Anonymous No.40906988 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
The suffering on Earth is too bring as much people back to Earth. when your soul is tired and weak and feel displeased, they are bounded to stay in Earth for fixing issues.
Anonymous No.40908410 [Report]
>40906988
>You wanted to suffer :^)
This explaination will never be not retarded.
Anonymous No.40910445 [Report]
>>40839718 (OP)
If you wanna fuck up your chance to leave the matrix, listen to this guy