Thread 281626463

Talk to me about Rozen Maiden please. This show broke my heart and tore me apart emotionally, i've been crying for days now and it's all tense and hurts a bit around my chest. I constantly feel like something's got my heart in a tight grip and is squeezing it.
The reason i only finished watching RM recently is because years ago i saw the very first episode and instantly realized i wouldn't be able to handle the pain from how beautiful and amazing this show is, so i deliberately avoided it for years. and it turned out i was right because that bit where Tomoe brushes Hina's hair and Hina tells her she knows she's fading out made me break down and burst into tears. for the first time in years i finally felt something thanks to this show – i was happy when suiseiseki got jealous of jun cuz she acted so cute and she's beautiful and i loved it when shinku asked him to brush her hair and when they were all wearing night gowns hanging out in his room. i absolutely adored the staircase food fight scene and oh God im tearing up even writing all this i cant take it i cant bear the fact that Traumend ended on such a stinging cliffhanger i cant go on without actually seeing new episodes from Nomad revealing that Hina is fine same as Suiseiseki and Souseiseki and all of them are living happily with jun and tomoe and the guy's sister cant remember her name but shes kind too.
and the music is so beautiful i just dont know how to handle the tragedy and the pain. both the opening and outro themes across both seasons are masterfully written and when i as much as hear the first beat from them i collapse and break down, smitten by memories and my emotions and love for Rozen Maiden. if you've also been traumatized and you love this series as much as i do, please help me, please tell me how to handle this unfairness that happened in season two because i simply cant manage the pain

>>281626463 (OP)
That's a salient point.

Yeah, I also cried and still do whenever I hear either of the outro songs. I have no idea how to combat this pain and Im not sure who to turn to to stop suffering because of RM

>>281626463 (OP)
hate to say this but you shoulda been here during the early 4chan days when this show was airing.
as hard as it is to believe, we all supported each other when times were tough, not just with this anime but with others as well...
but i feel for ya man, we've been through shit like this already and know that it gets better over time so just give it that... time.

>>281627541
were you posting on here back in 2005-2006?

>>281628254
maaybee

>>281628880
I attached a random image you bozo, I never meant to tell the guy to be quiet. that pic is unrelated to my question because I never attacked him for his post

>>281628407
hey, OP here. I'm super glad to have someone from that era who also loves rozen maiden in this thread. how'd you overcome the fact traumend ended so unfairly? I don't know what to do dude, whenever I hear that outro song I just have a breakdown and cry for hours. please tell me what to do because I love rozen maiden and want nomad to continue with season three

as an anime loving community, we're bound to have developed the tools and means necessary to support each other during the toughest times of a tragic anime ending or things not being well in general

>>281629217
We should always support each other and suffer together because Rozen Maiden is far too beautiful of an anime to just get over it like that. it's tough and we just hear each other out

>>281629011
as stated before, time is the best healer. but i know when you really get into a series that suddenly ends so unfairly like that, its really really difficult to get it out of you mind.
i would recommend you do something with all that stored up energy. like write a fanfic, draw a picture, music...
something that (for the lack of a better term) tickles you in just the right way.
i remember a friend of mine went all the way to Japan just to buy a evangelion rei miniature. (these things were harder to get back in the days)

>>>281629421
Yeah but Nomad's Rozen Maiden ended in a horrible way and that cliffhanger is unacceptable. Plus it's been twenty years so it's hard to still have hope. Honestly we need someone wise and clever to calm us down and help us deal with the predicament we're in.

>>281629580
>time is the best healer
I did pay attention to that the first time, but while I am aware of the fact that human body and the human brain are wired in such a way as to make you endure any sort of tragedy and, eventually, no matter how much you suffer emotionally, your mind kind of forces you to forget about it and get on with the routine, it's not the right thing to do in my opinion. if you simply move on and stop caring, the objective reality won't change and you'll end up in a stupid position where this beautiful show doesn't get the justice it deserves and all you do is contribute to it being forgotten. instead, it's important to get to the ultimate truth and fixate on rozen maiden while the pain lasts in order to get something beautiful out of the suffering
>its really really difficult to get it out of you mind.
yeah, thank you for actually getting what I'm going through. it's important for me to find people that feel the same way towards RM and are aware of how painful it is to endure what happened with Traumend. I just can't go on I'm suffering I need help it's too much to handle whenever I hear that outro track I just can't manage the pain
>would recommend you do something with all that stored up energy. like write a fanfic, draw a picture, music...
now this is obviously more in line with what I had in mind – attempting to channel the pain into something. however, I was thinking that apart from trying to be creative, there also has to be another relief which would be finding fans of the show wiser and more mature than me who would help me out and reveal the ultimate truth and moral of rozen maiden to me in order to calm me down and help me realize what this all truly is about. though I will try to do something creative about it still
>remember a friend of mine went all the way
did he cry because of evangelion ending and the characters not being real and not coming to life and the fact that he essentially was left alone?

>>281626463 (OP)
Sorry, all I remember is pain and suffering, I watched it so long ago that I can't remember much. For some reason my eyes are watering while I try to remember it.

>>281626463 (OP)
I liked Outlaw Star when it was on Toonami way back in the day, but I never really finished the series back in the day. I'd say it had a deep effect on me early on and getting into anime/2D culture as a whole. But I never really saw the whole show when it aired and put off watching it over again that I forgot most of it over the years.

Not too long ago I decided to finally watch the entire series from the beginning to the end with every episode and I had an absolute amazing time. The series is great on its own and the added nostalgia elevated the watching experience to something I don't think I could exactly reach with any other series. Especially with how many of the old school Toonami bumpers/videos used Outlaw Star scenes and voice snippets.

I enjoyed it so much that I was distraught over how when I would watch the last episode, it would be "over." So I decided to wait to watch the final episode until I reached a certain milestone in my life. When I reached the point and watched the episode, I also dropped acid.
I was so utterly satisfied and pleased with the ending and the experience of watching it, it felt otherworldly. I truly felt happy to my core. Especially considering I essentially watched one show over many years of my life. I feel like I've never experienced a better ending and wrapping up of a series in any other anime I've watched. It was everything I wanted from the series and how I wanted it to end.

I'm a long time Rozen Maiden enjoyer too, from back in the early days of 4chan. So I'm sorry you feel so strongly in a potentially distressing or "traumatizing" matter. I hope you instead feel a sort of bittersweet happiness that a series was able to so deeply emotionally effect you. You'll only come across a handful of such series, shows, and media that can touch you so profoundly, so I think you should cherish them, be it good or bad feelings.
Make sure to check out other Rozen Maiden media out there, like the manga and the PS2 games

I miss Rozen Maiden so much. For me it makes me miss 2012 and being a NEET.

boku

desu

soregashi

this thread again

>>281635104
desu

Suiseiseki is a great character

>>281630033
What have you tried doing to dull the pain?

>>281630342
Thank you for sharing your experience. Since you deem it so praiseworthy, I just bookmarked Outlaw Star and will give it a watch when or, rather, if my melancholy and suffering over Rozen Maiden ever come to an end.
>put off watching it over again that I forgot most of it over the years
Was it because you also realized it would devastate you if you did so you tried to avoid that or was it simply because you either weren't too interested or had other things to do?
>and the added nostalgia elevated the watching experience to something I don't think I could exactly reach with any other series.
hopefully, like me, you're also one of those folks that wax poetic over everything from the good old days and fervently wish they could go back in time to the era when they had peace of mind and didn't suffer. I'm not sure if you cried after watching that show or if it was as touching and heartfelt for you, but to me Rozen Maiden is exactly that and I just can't go on without it, trust me I'm not exaggerating when I describe how much I'm suffering and how much I love this series as passionately as my heart can love. I'm thankful to you for replying to me and helping me because at this point I need others who have also watched the show to at least support me if they also felt what I feel towards it

>>281638498
>Was it because you also realized it would devastate you if you did so you tried to avoid that or was it simply because you either weren't too interested or had other things to do?
I'm not actually sure why I put it off, I tend to procrastinate things in general. And also be forgetful over time. I did realize that I would be sad after it's over, so there was some sort of effort put it off at one point. But I tried to make the last episode climax viewing special and I enjoyed it.

>you're also one of those folks that wax poetic over everything from the good old days and fervently wish they could go back in time to the era when they had peace of mind and didn't suffer
Haha, yeah something like that. I do find myself constantly thinking about "THE GOOD OL' DAYS," but I guess that's just something everyone who gets older has to deal with.
I do really mean it though when I said make sure to consume the other Rozen Maiden media. The PS2 visual novel is most certainly worth a read. The light novels too and drama CDs. It's never too late to learn Japanese and even if you don't want to, you can use a text hooker to translate the game in real time. Unless you've already consumed all the available things out there. I like to put things off and stretch out media consumption of my favorite series to enjoy it as long as possible.

Now Galaxy Angel, that's probably the series I feel the most connected to, and I think I would feel as devastated as you are if I finally watched and read everything. I purposely have put off watching episodes for decades now just so I always have more Galaxy Angel yet to watch. I couldn't deal with the pain of finally watching, playing, and reading everything related to the series and having nothing more to enjoy. As long as there is more Galaxy Angel for me to watch, I feel I can keep going. And even then, it's a big series so I have a lot of spin off games to play and drama cds to still listen to. Or rewatch what I forgot.

>>281630342
>was distraught over how when I would watch the last episode, it would be "over."
YES! you get me, I know exactly what you're talking about. it's painful to acknowledge that something good will ever end, so you try hard to hoard it and stretch it out. I mean, sure, these feelings might not be unique to us and we're obviously not the only ones who ever get this sentiment, but you wouldn't believe how many thick headed people I meet that seem to have no genuine emotions whatsoever as such I'm always excited to be able to connect with someone over stuff like this

>>281630342
>was so utterly satisfied and pleased with the ending and the experience of watching it, it felt otherworldly
I'm glad you enjoyed it, I'm glad you could feel positive emotions and feel like you'd experienced something great and satisfying. it's so nice when people are happy and enjoy things and feel good. again, I promise I'll watch that show and I've already bookmarked it. and I love rozen maiden, dear God I adore rozen Maiden

>>281639928
That's the thing about this anime -- you both enjoy rozen maiden and suffer still
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>>281638666
>did realize that I would be sad after it's over, so there was some sort of effort put it off at one point. But I tried to make the last episode climax viewing special and I enjoyed it.
I see. yeah I can see where you're coming from with that. I've never tried acid though, I wonder if it feels cool. I have no idea how you got your hands on it because I'm scared to order it online.
>constantly thinking about "THE GOOD OL' DAYS," but I guess that's just something everyone who gets older has to deal with
people often say this very often but you wouldn't believe how many others also claim that there's no point in clinging to the past, yet I love Rozen Maiden's 2000s feel and atmosphere. modern shows just don't cut it because times have changed

>>281630917
thanks for that image of shinku, she is so beautiful I love her desu. you know what desu means in English don't you

>>281641467
it means tbһ

>>281641553
Actually, it means "I'm telling you" which is largely different from to be honest which is outlined by suiseisekis gracefulness

>>281641693
ive watched anime for 35 years and it means tbһ, btw do you have a recipe for shinku muffins?

>>281641847
the ones that taste like brea- *dies*

>>281638666
>do really mean it though when I said make sure to consume the other Rozen Maiden media. The PS2 visual novel is most certainly worth a read. The light novels too and drama CDs
oh don't worry, I know I didn't address this but in my first reply, but I am definitely going to consume all the rozen maiden related media. moreover, the PlayStation 2 is actually one of my favorite consoles and I constantly play games on it instead of emulating, so I will hands down beat all the RM games for it. honestly it's so heartwarming that at least this time around the manga has both an anime and games and beautiful music. I do want to thank you for nudging me in that direction, though, because it's giving me the impetus to do all of that as quickly as possible

Didnt you already make this thread a few days ago lamenting Traumend?

>>281642640
No, that was me. This time the OP is someone else. Didn't you already ask this question?

>>281642562
Nomad should just reunite and continue the Rozen maiden series

>>281632562
BOKU NE

>>281642640
This is the third one, and it's filled with the same gibberish nonsense as the previous two.
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>>281544573
This is all very strange.

>>281643661
Ah, I missed one of those.
Even on its own in one thread I got weird feelings so I didnt lurk the rest of it, but if its now a pattern then...
I guess time will tell, desu ne

>>281632684
JUN SORAEGEWA MUDANAI DESU!!!!! I LOVE ROZEN MAIDEN

>>281642897
no, that was me.

Did Nomad's adaptation of RM really stray so far away from the manga? Because on its own it's an amazing anime and I can't find any flaws with it besides perhaps yearning for even more character interaction.

>>281643629
BOKU WA BOKU NO YAKUME O HATASU DAKE DA

>>281638666
>Now Galaxy Angel,
Garaxy wa Tenshi desu x Rozen Meiden??

>>281643661
these threads feel AI-generated or something like that, even the pictures are a complete miss
so uncanny desu

>>281633471
>>281635104
SOREGASHI WA ANATA.. BOKU TELL ME HOW TO GET ON WITH MY LIFE SUISEISEKI I LOVE YOU SO MUCH I LOVE YOU

>>281639154
>I'm always excited to be able to connect with someone over stuff like this
Same
A lot of fans these days just watch anime series absentmindedly and just watch whatever's popular. OG otaku feel PASSION towards their series of choice. Glad I could talk to you

>>281639928
I hope I didn't hype it up too much. I don't think everyone would feel the same way that I felt towards it, but I still hope you enjoy it all the same. I'm a big fan of "space operas" and love things like KotOR, The Fifth Element, Firefly, etc. I really feel its a well rounded series that sticks to the plot, starts with a mystery, concludes that mystery in a satisfactory matter, has a good and memorable cast, and doesn't drag on. I feel the series made the most of every episode and advances the plot, and even filler episodes are fun. I don't typically like extremely long series with hundreds of episodes, so I feel it's the perfect length.

>>281640727
Such is the mark of a good series that speaks to you. I really love Galaxy Express 999, but the ending can be painful. That's just a part of the beauty of it. I think the pain is an important part of the experience of watching the series and being attached to the characters. Leiji Matsumoto WANTS you to feel in a certain manner and pulls it off in a really skilled way. People still talk highly off it even though it can hurt.

>>281641214
I think concluding series and using them as a "reward" for doing something in real life is a good way to give a great series even more impact. And also motivate you to accomplish your own personal goals. Acid's not for everyone, I've only done it a handful of times. You need to be careful. It's extremely hard to get if your an introvert though. I have no real way of getting more. I lucked out at the time.
I really just like drugs that fuel your imagination. Don't care much for other substances. "Drugs that make you dream" essentially

>>281641214
>modern shows just don't cut it because times have changed
I love old shows too, makes sense because that's what I grew up with and enjoyed when I first got into the hobby. 2000s series is what I consider the baseline, the ideal. Things just seem to have gotten worse over time from my point of view. Yeah some people give the whole "don't cling to the past" deal, but I don't care, it works for me. There are more than enough 90s, 2000s, and 2010s shows and series to last me decades. I don't need to bother with new anime when I still have so many older shows on my backlog that just vibe with me better. It's my "era" and I'll stick with it. The world might've changed, but that's why new shows don't work with me the same way. The new series are for new people, I need series for me.

>>281642562
Glad to hear it. The PS2 really has a monster library in regards to 2000s era anime series that many sleep on because the games never made it to the west.
There's visual novels and spinoff games for
- Lucky Star
- Rozen Maiden
- DearS (same artist as Rozen Maiden)
- Galaxy Angel
- Di Gi Charat
- Amagami
- Aria
- Clannad
- Kanon
etc
Not even including all the games that don't have their own anime. I could go on all day, just look at the list on VNDB. The games are cheap as well. I like using physical games too. You can buy a Japanese PS2 and replace the powersource for your country without even soldering anything, it's a really quick and easy mod. And if you are still learning Japanese, you can get a connection splitter to both your TV and computer, so you can see it on the TV screen and also have an automatic text hooker to translate everything on your computer screen. I also think it's neat to use a nintendo DS Japanese dictionary to look up words you don't know. It's easier than ever to play Japanese games these days. Even if you don't know anything, it's easier than you think once you get everything set up.
I'm glad I could convince you to check out the games.

>>281644887
Doesn’t to me

Based I used to love Rozen Maiden in my teen years

>>281645452
>>281645792
>>281646353
hold on I'm rewatching the intros and outros for both RM season one and two and that's why I'm bawling my eyes out and that's why I'll need to reply later

>>281646593
Anon you know that you dont need to announce that youre busy and wont be able to respond to posts like its a fucking IM room or that youre talking to your parents...right??

>>281647046
I'm talking to my parents, discussing rozen maiden in this thread sonny. make sure to stop swearing by the way, boy

Finally deus thread

>>281646593
No prob dude
Sometimes letting your emotions out is an aspect of the healing process

>>281645452
>A lot of fans these days just watch anime series absentmindedly and just watch whatever's popular. OG otaku feel PASSION towards their series of choice. Glad I could talk to you
xd why thank you my liege!!!! I'm glad to hang out with you too. as for the watching stuff absentmindedly bit, there's this overall tendency (has been simmering insidiously for decades now) among people to get compartmentalized into separate units and not seek genuine and heartfelt human contact in general or over anime. people in general are pushing each other away instead of connecting and this is one of those instances where it's not just the old timers bitching about the youth but rather an actual process that's taking place. and it's scary and upsetting that this has to happen, but many factors outside of our will have contributed to this forcefully and now sometimes you even have to share and reveal less than you would have otherwise. too bad
>hope I didn't hype it up too much
no don't worry I'll treat it rationally and do my best not to get thrown off by anything insignificant
>I'm a big fan of "space operas" and love things like KotOR, The Fifth Element, Firefly,
well, there you go, that's a bit where we differ. I have to ask are you not creeped out by the vast emptiness and blackness of space? because the moment any piece of media decides to lose that lustrous blue sky and switch the setting to the outer space, it feels too depressing and intense to me

>>281646353
Metal song hit

>>281645452
>well rounded series that sticks to the plot, starts with a mystery, concludes that mystery in a satisfactory matter, has a good and memorable cast, and doesn't drag on
now this is a principle that any quality show should follow. I bet you hate loose ends and cliffhangers as much as I do. again, it might seem like no one in their right mind would be happy to witness one, but I've heard too many people claim they're okay with what I considered devastating.. SUCH AS YOURSELF!!!!! or not....... I have no clue. but yeah obviously what you're describing is important and should be the case. this only proves how hard writing in and directing in general is, it must be a nightmare. then again, so is creating the art, drawing and animating everything and producing the score and doing voiceover. all those disciplines are like super-super taxing @.@

>>281645452
>Such is the mark of a good series that speaks to you. I really love Galaxy Express 999, but the ending can be painful
haven't seen that one either, but it's been sitting in my backlog for a while now, I know it's supposed to be good. just so you know, I'm adding everything you mention to my watchlist even if it's not a genre I'm generally into lol
>That's just a part of the beauty of it. I think the pain is an important part of the experience of watching the series and being attached to the characters.
well yeah, but.. as right as you are and as much as I can't argue with this, with rozen maiden it's a bit different because it felt like such a disgusting betrayal and like you're backstabbed that it's hard to manage. for instance, cowboy bebop's finale wasn't that happy either but it didn't gut me and break me like this did

>>281644057
For starters Barasuishou never existed in the manga and Kirakishou was the villain from the start instead of just having a cameo appearance in the last few seconds of Traumend. I never watched the 2013 anime (other than the first episode and I stopped it when they were speedrunning the events of the first anime) but apparently she's in it but idk if it's as a sequel to the Nomad series or if it's just a retelling of the manga.

>>281649738
Barasuishou is canon

>>281645452
also, sure, the pain is part of experiencing something beautiful, but how do you extract the ultimate truth from this period of melancholy and yearning right after the series end? getting creative and producing related art is one thing, but there has to be something else to channeling suffering into something that will make you get over the pain without simply forgetting it all like your brain is forcing you to

>>281647947
>people in general are pushing each other away instead of connecting
Yeah, it's a shame
I think it started earlier with those on the internet first and then later spread to the sphere of normal people as everyone else eventually started going on the internet. But I also think it's something you can adapt to.
Maybe society's just changing and things seem scary because change is different. But I hope things get better, only time will tell.

>I'll treat it rationally
Very good

>I have to ask are you not creeped out by the vast emptiness and blackness of space?
I find space to be quite beautiful. I will admit that there can be a "creep" factor, as infinity and the void can be distressing for humans to think about, but I also consider that a part of the appeal. Instead of being anxious about it, I embrace it. The "goosebumps" one can feel from such a thing has its own appeal, in my view. The unknown can be scary, but it doesn't necessarily have to be. In a way, I like the darkness.
I like the lustrous blue sky too though.

>>281648448
>I bet you hate loose ends and cliffhangers as much as I do
Yep.
>it must be a nightmare. then again, so is creating the art
Absolutely, creating is no easy task. An empty canvas can be quite daunting. But the reward/satisfaction can be great.

>>281649169
>just so you know, I'm adding everything you mention to my watchlist even if it's not a genre I'm generally into
Cool, glad I could give some good recommendations.
I love Galaxy Express 999 and there are many offshoots in the series to enjoy after the show, all are worth a shot. For the record, GE999 is full of vast space shots in the sea of stars. I'd say its a big aspect of the series. So if that could make you anxious, be careful.

>with rozen maiden it's a bit different because it felt like such a disgusting betrayal and like you're backstabbed that it's hard to manage
Well I hope you manage to feel better about it in your own way. Time does indeed help as well.

>>281645452
>Leiji Matsumoto WANTS you to feel in a certain manner and pulls it off in a really skilled way. People still talk highly off it even though it can hurt
Well... this prompts a question that's related to rozen maiden as well; is a creator (or the entire team responsible for the production if that applies) responsible for the pain and suffering they may cause you with some work that's far too beautiful to handle? I mean, when you're done with a manga or anime that was overly magnificent and now you can't endure the fact it's over and the characters are never coming to life, who will be there for you? should the creators keep in mind that this trauma may knock you out so bad you'd actually be unable to function properly for a while? the melancholy is real, mind you. much like a family member dying or parting ways with you feels like something vital has been torn off of you and now you're bleeding and reeling, finishing rozen maiden or any work of art sends you plummetting down this unbearable spiral of emotional torment that's hard to take

>>281650674
Who series she from?

>>281651585
ohhhhhhhhhh...... her? ohhhhhhh............ she's from....... ohhhh

I like dolls.

>>281644057
The show really amazing

*inhailes*
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>>281652737
yeah lol

>>281649738
>Barasuishou never existed in the manga
lol this made me smile. I had no idea that when people claimed the anime was prone to frivolities they meant it to this extent. how come there was no scandal about it then
>other than the first episode and I stopped it when they were speedrunning the events
but why? it's not bad, the 2013 version, though I haven't watched it either, but it's good
>sequel to the Nomad series or if it's just a retelling of the manga
it's a different spin on retelling the manga, not a continuation. so how can you personally get on with your life knowing there are no more new episodes and you won't get to hear shinku or suiseiseki or Hinaichigo talk ever again? it's heartbreaking honestly

I like if there was video game.

>>281654057
which there totally must be am I right game to date tomoe

>>281645452
>think concluding series and using them as a "reward" for doing something in real life is a good way to give a great series even more impact
oh yeah. which only makes the situation we're in all the more comical given this thread's topic
>"Drugs that make you dream" essentially
no pun intended obviously
souseiseiki would advise you to be careful with lsd cuz there's this thing called persistent/lingering psychosis with it, it's a bitch, sends you insane

>>281626463 (OP)
i'm glad to see you get replies because I didn't get any kind of response to finding and binging TPN late which similarly shit the bed and left me wrekt.

sasuga rosen maiden desu.
I hope we continue to enshrine this oldfag tradition.

>>281628254
cant remember if 6 or 7

>>281645792
>love old shows too, makes sense because that's what I grew up with and enjoyed when I first got into the hobby. 2000s series is what I consider the baseline, the ideal
finally, someone who shares my sentiment. now, again, we all know that studies claim that "the best era" for media tends to peak at almost the same age for everyone so depending on everyone's age you get different periods of good old days, but honestly I'm willing to bet that in this case there's no bias and there really were better shows back then. honestly I believe it's the objective truth that they were proportionally much better back then. for one, there's no denying that when rozen maiden came out, times were quite different from now. people acted differently and their thought process and priorities were not the same as today

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>>281635209
I am always careful to write desu in places where theres no word filter desu

>>281653977
>how come there was no scandal about it then
anime adaptations just making shit up for the final boss because the manga wasn't finished was just the norm back then

>>281654399
oh you poor lamb, I know exactly what that feels like. look, I'll be by your side and I'll be there for you whenever I spot you and recognize you.
>sasuga rosen maiden desu.
>I hope we continue to enshrine this oldfag tradition
exactly what I needed to hear. you are amazing <3

>>281644887
They really do lol

I'VE GOT AN IDEA EVERYONE!! LETS LISTEN TO THE TRAUMEND OUTRO SONG TOGETHER LOLOLOL
>>281654502
>>281654464
>>281653249
>>281652577

>>281645792
>Things just seem to have gotten worse over time from my point of view. Yeah some people give the whole "don't cling to the past" deal, but I don't care, it works for me
Again, using rozen maiden and the shows you've listed as a baseline example, we can safely determine that times really have changed and ever since 2013 life has just been stressful and anxiety inducing. people have changed and are more hostile these days and the media being produced reflects the need for instant gratification or is shallow and lacks depth. so I absolutely agree with you and I'm so happy to meet someone who spreads the ideas I agree with

>>281654420
wow, you're an old timer who loves RM

>>281652577
COOL MOVES RODNEY! ROZEN MAIDEN IS ALL WE'VE GOT YA KNOW

>>281651585
She's from Katawa Shoujo, not Rozen Maiden

>>281645792
>The world might've changed, but that's why new shows don't work with me the same way. The new series are for new people, I need series for me.
Yup, that's the right mindset. There's no point in forcing yourself to consume stuff that isn't even actually good and doesn't satisfy you in any way. these trite ideas about needing to accept change seem forced because whatever there is out there released after 2016 just seems not worth it and seems to be of incredibly low quality. I wish there were some scientific papers on how humanity has utterly changed since the 2000s and what exactly has changed to produce shows of this kind

>>281654888
It's tough to reliably quantify shows like that though.

>>281654080
Dating haunting doll or fighting games

>>281654437
Based desu.

>>281626463 (OP)
rozed

>>281654971
NTA but very true.

Kirakishou would make for a good horror movie

>>281627541
i remember back when /a/ started getting flooded with 2hu, and then later moot made /jp/ as a containment board for it. before that i lurked.

>>281653977
you can always rewatch it. i rewatched galaxy angel not long ago. i should rewatch rozen maiden.

>>281658681
She would also make for a very good film of a different kind of you know what I mean desu.

>>281654590
Yeah, let's dedicate it all to RM

>>281655337
Dating games so that at least id get to stop crying over how beautiful Rozen Maiden is and how unfortunate of an end it came to at least somewhere. Sui is very beautiful and im attracted to her. What about u

>>281660148
>>281660413
>>281660074

>>281645792
>>281645792
>Glad to hear it. The PS2 really has a monster library in regards to 2000s era anime series that many sleep on because the games never made it to the west.
>There's visual novels and spinoff games for
>- Lucky Star
>- Rozen Maiden
>- DearS (same artist as Rozen Maiden)
>- Galaxy Angel
>- Di Gi Charat
>- Amagami
oh, by the way, as a Rozen Maiden fan, what do you have to say on the Higurashi when they cry series and Lucky Star? if you like them, what is it that appeals to you within them? what are the flaws youd say they have, if any? i personally wished there would be an actual love story in HIgurashi because no one romanced anyone but i wanted Rena and Mion to develop feelings for someone else much like in Rozen Maiden at least

You know, I have to wonder what the creators behind RM feel about the fact that it's been twenty years yet the fan base is still active. it's a bummer Peach pit women aren't that public and don't offer any way to get in touch with them though, it would be nice to thank them

>>281645792
>I could go on all day, just look at the list on VNDB.
there's a dedicated list of animes that have specifically been adapted into a video gaems????? on vndb let alone?? BUT IVE BEEN LURKING THAT WEBSITE AND NEVER SAW IT

>>281654835
Oh, I remember that blind lady.

>>281662023
They seem to be annoyed that their new projects aren't as successful.

>>281626463 (OP)
Based and DESUpilled

>>281645792
>The games are cheap as well. I like using physical games too.
oh yeah. I'd imagine inserting an RM cd/dvd into the PlayStation two and hearing that disc spin up and read humming would leave me plastered over the nostalgia, especially given that the laser units on the ps2s have universally died out and are a bitch to maintain or replace so these days you'd be better off simply using a rozen maiden iso to play the game. thankfully, the technology for that is there

>>281626463 (OP)
>i've been crying for days now
seek professional help

>>281628254
yeah, but i was a /b/tard back then

stinku

>>281627541
>2014
When redditranny mod appears

>>281663811
Professional help from therapists that haven't watched rozen maiden? what's the point if they don't know how much I'm suffering because they haven't seen the show

>>281664264
I'd pay double for a therapist who has seen the entire show and read the manga

>>281627541
RIP ;_;

>>281660074
i don't have any touhou pictures though

>>281666033
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMieO1_aDaw

LOL

>>281666194
lol

>>281660074
It's okay to post in this thread

>>281626463 (OP)
So is only one doll really going to become human
Really sad for the rest

>>281666817
Only junk dolls want to be human

>>281666817
at the end of traumend bara duishou keeps calling that slick looking guy father
>>281666927

>>281645792
>And if you are still learning Japanese, you can get a connection splitter to both your TV and computer, so you can see it on the TV screen and also have an automatic text hooker to translate everything on
Dude hahahahah I'm actually smiling as I'm reading this. I have never in my entire lifetime thought of this or heard this idea from anyone, it's so clever and useful. Can you imagine how efficient the learning process would be if you did that? You'd basically be plunging yourself into the Japanese language environment without any effort while consuming your favorite media. It's honestly baffling that this is the first time someone's revealed this method to me

>>281666927
What if doll become Karakuridôji or simply robot masters?

>>281667417
What if you learn the meaning of desu through the RM visual novel?

The meaning of desu is desu, desu~

>>281667776
rozen maiden dolls are graceful, majestic and pristine whr3ss robots are crude and boring!!!!!

the scope of the games is pretty limited and boring.

>>281669021
Miku life size robot so beautiful. Not sure if boring.

>>281669657
this is the weirdest clothe design I've ever seen, it seems vaguely pirate themed, is this character from one piece?

>>281670353
>pirate are rebellious hot head
Yes.

what kind of professional therapy can help someone not suffer because of the fact that traumend ended with a cliffhanger and season three never came and no one got to see hinaichigo reanimated? because trust me this is overwhelmingly upsetting
>>281663846

>>281662767
>>281662023
Why not fund good video games?

>>281672009
read the fucking manga therapy

>>281672183
She doesn't appreciate you swearing

>>281672120
such as... big rigs: over the Rozen maiden?

>>281672765
She swears in the anime you chibi ningen

>>281666194
saved

>>281626463 (OP)
roses and rose

>>281674495
sometimes there's roses in the anime, other times.. yeah

>>281673608
Mario/Crash kart but toy life size truck

honestly i consider rozen maiden to be (at best) a mediocre anime yet i absolutely adore it.
season 2 was the highlight for me because it had some scenes who seemed strangely out of place (but in a good way), like some surprisingly mature dialogues. it's barely perceptible but that season had sort of a spiritual quality to it. if there is one episode to remember from the whole show (and i include deen's) it's s2 episode 7. it's the one showing suiginto's "rebirth" and it's absolutely magistral (in the context of the show of course).
also there's this particular track in season 2 that always put's me in a spiritual mood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6jXlcirMzw
man the more i think about this anime the more i realize it left a strong impression on me despite saying earlier it's mediocre.
maybe it's qualities lay in what it doesn't show, if that makes any sense at all, because it truly has something special

>>281674014
>>281674780
>man the more i think about this anime the more i realize it left a strong impression on me despite saying earlier it's mediocre.
>maybe it's qualities lay in what it doesn't show, if that makes any sense at all, because it truly has something special
hahahahah I loved reading your post dude. the way you slowly realize this show absolutely wasn't bad at all and is actually almost grandiose and has had a huge impact on you is cute and endearing. I've been listening to its soundtrack for over a week now, but I'll give this specific track you posted a listen right now just for you

>>281668380
ecks dee THAT IS CORRECT DESU~~

>>281674495
YYH

>>281650426
>>281648279
>>281647111
>>281647338
USAGI??

To this day I sometimes play Battle of Rose and Shukuteki while reading battles in other manga. Rozen Maiden wasn't really about the fights but that last one with Suigintou in season 1 was really impactful and Shukuteki elevated it. I liked the way Souseiseki floats in the air for a brief moment after slashing Suigintou. It's a small detail but it adds to the visual weight of the attack.

>>281676355
DID THAT IMAGE REALLY HAVE TO BE MADE

>>281676379
All desu must be made desu.

I got here because this stupid dog back in 2007, Who would have known I'd stay forever

>>281676355
>>281674780
>>281674014
>>281668380
>>281645792
I love you. I'm deeply grateful to you and everyone else for sharing your thoughts and feelings on rozen maiden. let's hang out together more I can't be left alone or I'll freak out and have a breakdown. I'm still attached to rozen maiden and I need to listen to its soundtrack especially the traumend outro song or I'll lose my mind. please hang out with me a little more please just please I love this show I can't go on on my own because I get tightness in my chest and it almost feels like I have a heartache or that I'm suffocating. I just can't get over the beauty of this show. I cherish you and I value you and I'm happy this thread exists, I'm happy we can listen to each other here and talk, it's all I want it's what keeps the hysteria at bay

After all, at the end of the day, who will be there for us when the tragedy of this beautiful work of art devastates us and sends us insane from the fact the dolls aren't real and never will be? We need to support each other, we need to hear each other out and talk about how amazing Rozen Maiden is as much as possible. God knows I'm in pain and I'm willing to do what I ask of you for any of you. I will support you no matter what because I know how torturous it is to be left alone when a show you really like ends on a tragic note and no one seems to get your feelings

>>281676379
Thank Rozen you've never seen poop slave Suigintou.

unyuu~

>>281676123
ToT

good night desu

>>281626463 (OP)
i haven't even watched traumend yet, finished the first season a year ago

>>281676439
the desu noto...

>>281663828
weren't we all? the last time i visited /b/ the banana was popular

2004 was an amazing year.
Rozen Maiden OP: https://youtu.be/8sY_Yp5o-dw
Midori no Hibi ED: https://youtu.be/ooNFl8FMvAE
DearS OP: https://youtu.be/ksJ52xCq1xI
Shinobuden OP: https://youtu.be/D5d-4IbA_Pw
My-HiME ED: https://youtu.be/5LhduXVX9UQ
Moon Phase OP: https://youtu.be/5lflXu4bRA8

>>281679887
damn 2004 really was a good year

>>281679887
Air OP: https://youtu.be/VlkxpXYpAZs

desu

boku

>>281626463 (OP)
Abe kun... Don't masturbate too hard to dolls ;)

>>281676551
BOKU

>>281662562
if Lilly Satou was in RM, whose medium would she end up being considering the fact she's blind =.=
>>281666164
lol
>>281666927
she becomes human to beat laplace up

>>281666936
she goes otoza otoza otoza but guess what baby tonight you're hoarded roza mysticas you stole from the girls is going away!!!! theyre not yours to keep because its simply unfair to tkae the girls rosas loool rozenkristall like frick off or something you baker!!
>>281668380
DESU NE~
>>281669055
THATS A HORRIBLE THING 2 SAY

>>281672009
>>281672183
YEAH BUT.. rtfm?? there's no voiceover in the manga and, like, you get used to the anime over time and you only want to see the dolls move and hear them talk exactly the way you have been doing it. thats the thing its that im all for reading the manga on its own but when you factor in the anime being there and being all sweet and cute and.. UNFINISHED?? D: it makes you really sad and now im fixated on the fact that traumend has no closure and Hinaichigo has lost her life force she has no ring shes been going on like that purely on borrowed time essentially my poor sweet Hina you shoudn't suffer its just painful and suiseiseki too she is kind and caring she loves jun but tries to hide it so my point is that i will definitely read the manga but right now i cant get over the unfairness of traumend

>>281627541
As a covid newfag, just by looking at the pictures you can see that 2008 was where the good times ended, and by 2013 everyone has completely lost their minds.

>>281683494
You can read in their voices and imagine them moving right?!

>>281683669
Nightime /a/ still existed around 2010.
2016 was without a doubt the bullet to a head.

>>281674014
saved, thanx..... WHAT DID YOU CALL ME
>>281674780
now let's break this down a bit. as you were typing up your post, you sorta realized Rozen Maiden wasn't that vapid of an anime as you thought, right? So my question is this – if you still adored it despite that, what were its aspects that you assumed made it a mediocre show specifically?
>>281674780
>also there's this particular track in season 2 that always put's me in a spiritual mood
just re-listened to it. it definitely does sound spiritual, but it's also melancholic and reminds me of the ruminating that shinku had to go through regarding their fates and whether they should fight or not

>>281683669
Well, I can't say things were outright detestable in 2013. Also, that's when the other version of the RM anime got released. But yeah, the dynamic was there

>>281677870
>>281678420
>>281679382
>>281679476
I love you, I love you with all my heart, I do

>>281680507
you are cool, sweet and cute. i love you and I'm glad we share the same favorite show

>>281680256
>>281679986
magical girls op

>>281679525
the dolls are inviting us on board.

>>281684217
>>281676123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_iYQtgpwac

>>281663846
Shinku is a wise doll that knows a lot and is a parent to us all.

>>281683686
your right desu but I know that on some level you do understand what I'm trying to tell you because I bet you also felt betrayed when you realized traumend wasn't being continued by nomad

>>281679382
WHATS THE WORST THAT I CAN SAYYYY~
~THINGS ARE BETTER IF I STAY~

>>281686488
hina...... beautiful, pure, innocent and sweet hinaichigo. dear God how it hurts me to recall your fate, I just don't know what to do and I can't move on, I simply can't. help me please, help me

>>281689311
All she need was milk

>>281689311
I'm crying now

>>281679572
are you deliberately putting it off?

>>281688057
I just read the manga.

>>281679493
I want you to be happy, I want you to always fare well in life. let us be together, let us all support each other in this thread please

>>281692156
do you not intend to watch the show

>>281686889
I actually got the Träumend art book before I watched season two and when I saw that suiginto also had a medium who was a sick dying girl it melted my heart cuz I thought that meant she was actually a kind and caring doll who was trying to save her medium and heal her

>>281660148
well, don't you also feel that the law of diminishing returns applies to memories, nostalgia and emotional experience? if I rewatch it even once, it's going to water down and dilute my memories and the joyous sensations I have of the show, it's going to make everything less potent I believe

>>281686843
what if rozen maiden but also rule of rose?

the place

>>281674768
you mentioning mario kart made me wonder whether it would have been a decent idea to add a little more cultural or media references to Rozen Maiden. like, to have jun be a fan of do gi charat

It's funny because that event took place around the time I finished watching Traumend

>>281692754
I'll watch it for this years anniversary.

>>281697573
your cute. I have a favor to ask of you; when you do get around to watching it, please make sure to let me know somehow, perhaps by creating a thread on this board. I need to stay connected with everyone who's a fan of this show because if I'm left alone with my thoughts and grievance it'll drive me nuts and I don't use that expression lightly. oh rozen maiden, why'd you have to be so beautiful
>>281686855

>>281652577
yeah lol

>>281661599
Higurashi is pretty rad, played all the main vns around like 2013. I even got Ryukishi07 to sign one of my game CDs when he visited the US.
I get what you mean with the romance, but I guess its nice to keep things neutral and focus on the horror aspect. I think each chapter kinda focuses on one girl so it's kinda like they have a route. Mion is my favorite and who I ship with Kei.
Played Hou+ very recently, it was alright. A neat way of doing things but I prefer the older games. I didn't like how it start but I like how it ended.

Lucky Star is a classic. At the time it came out, it somewhat bored me but grew on me over time. I guess my tastes changed as I grew.

>>281662400
I meant sorting by PS2 games
You can sort VNs by system

>>281651196
I don't think it's fair in a way to hold the creators responsible for your own feelings. Everyone is unique in how they digest a series. I think they would be happy you enjoyed it.

>>281654430
They were good times. I guess everyone cherishes their youth.

>>281654657
I hope things get better one day. I guess things go in cycles, so maybe good times will return.

>>281654888
仕方がない

>>281654276
Do things very lightly, like once every three years, and your mind should be fine.

>>281663798
Glad my lasers still seem to work so far. I just like physical games. Especially where you just start the game, no menu distractions.
>>281667417
Yeah it's pretty nifty. Text hookers on pc games are easy but take an extra step on consoles. Still very possible though. You can buy old AV hookups or cards that connect to your pc for cheap on ebay. I think immersion is key for learning and it's important to start as soon as you can. Just play the games you like and you will be learning real quick with some basic knowledge under your belt.

>>281676551
Thanks, you too my dude. But we should still appreciate the transience of threads on 4chan. Being Anonymous helps me relax and speak better from the heart.

>>281699084
YOURE BACK!!!!!

>>281686865
>>281691386
HINA WHY DID YOU HAVE TO MEET YOUR DEMISE IN SUCH A TRAGIC WAY

>>281686875
>>281679887
>>281676516
more importantly, how can I or anyone else go on and get on with their life after witnessing this and hearing the traumend outro song? this is heartbreaking this eviscerated me hinaichigo I love you I want to help you I want to save you don't go hina please don't go I love you I don't want you to suffer

>>281691453
no i just forgot about it, my backlog is so fucking huge normally when i finish an anime I move on to the next one on the list even if there are multiple seasons of the first one I watched
I just tell myself that I'll get to it eventually

>>281695967
I want to be there.

DESU spirit!

When is the RM0 anime?

When is the RM horror movie?