Thread 149520269

They knew all along edition.

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>>149520269 (OP)
Either Taeshi refuses to double-check her own writing or now thinks it should not be constrained by established plotpoints or basic logic. The silver lining here is that Mike's feelings of guilt are wholly selfless; he can't worry about everyone finding out his deep dark secret if there is no secret because everyone already knows.

0/10 not enough incest

>>149520269 (OP)
Oh shit Taeshi, what are you doing?

Last thread I said those anons who thought that the suicide bomb would fizzle again were dumb. I said that surely this was too simple a cause-and-effect, too easy a layup to fumble; that it would be like failing to get a basketball into a hula hoop 4 feet off the ground. I would like to sincerely apologize to those anons, for it is ME who am the fool.

Who tryna play?

>>149520269 (OP)
Well at least she's acknowledging the purpose of Sue's play.
>>149520340
Yep, that's what fanfictions are for. Stay tuned. :)
>>149520320
It's not really clear who knows the incident or how greatly, only that Madison knows Lucy tried to kill herself presumably cause of something involving Mike.

>>149520632
Sue randomly knows. Look at her reaction on today's page.

>>149520269 (OP)
>Jordan told his friend group, Paulo knew, Sue knew, Amaya knew
so the whole thing is an open secret? well, okay?

>>149520269 (OP)
So the suicide is just an open secret now? How has it been so known for so long without Lucy or Jordan saying Mike was the reason she jumped?!

>>149520632
>Yep, that's what fanfictions are for. Stay tuned. :)

elaborate

>>149520632
>Yep, that's what fanfictions are for. Stay tuned. :)

dont elaborate

>>149520917
>friends somehow all know Lucy jumped
>are too fucking stupid to connect the dots with December
>the comic treats Mike's "fault" as some big revelation that leaves him exiled from the table
This is the dumbest plot I could come up with so at this point there's a good chance it's correct.

>>149520286
And the rest of the chapter is just going to be about Sue's bruised ego and the plays, ok

>>149520917
>People were going out of their way to be nice to Lucy because they thought she might do it again, not because they like her
lmao

>>149520981
yeah it's very hard to believe that none of the conected the dots to this, that lucy didn't let it slip, or that jordan in one of his pissed of moments didnt tell one of his group "My sister jumped because of Mike"


Taeshi wont address the elephant in the room, and I think it's because she doesnt know how to get Mike back in any good graces with the table group after that bomb drop.

They'd all hate him for the rest of the comic. Paulo would probably even attack him.

There's no believable way to smooth things over with them after that even if Mike tried suicide himself.

>>149521108
Mike already told the whole group how he gaslit Lucy to make her feel isolated. Regardless of how they all magically found out about the ketchup slam, the group should have zero problem figuring out that was a major factor in her depression. Paulo certainly blamed Mike for Lucy avoiding them.

>There's no believable way to smooth things over with them after that even if Mike tried suicide himself.
Oh there is, but Taeshi could never bring herself to write it. It would require Lucy putting her foot down, claiming full agency, and telling them she didn't blame Mike for finally snapping at her so they shouldn't either. Lucy can cow the whole table into anything.

Can one of you mfs that lurk the bcb discord tell me if anyone there is talking about how weird this is? Because as far as I can tell we're the only ones reacting at all.

>>149521217
>Lucy can cow the whole table into anything
Would be pretty interesting to see how Mike responds to this situation. Like maybe he resists going back because he knows he's only tolerated due to Lucy's orders.

I'd like to think that, offscreen, Mike fessed up about Lucy's suicide at some point, took the group's shit, then things cooled off before Lucy came back unaware of the fact. I don’t know why Taeshi hasn't shown why everyone already knows unless there's supposed to be some dramatic revelation.

>>149521257
The patrons didn't notice but their collective IQ remains in the double digits range so that's no big surprise.

>>149521289
>I'd like to think that, offscreen, Mike fessed up about Lucy's suicide at some point, took the group's shit, then things cooled off before Lucy came back unaware of the fact. I don’t know why Taeshi hasn't shown why everyone already knows unless there's supposed to be some dramatic revelation.


>offscreen

Only way it'd work is if there was a time skip of sorts and everyone was treating mike like the worst person ever without him sperging.

>Dramatic revelation

It's that or she just wants to sidestep the actual consequences of the whole thing.

>>149520269 (OP)
So yeah, either a page for a quick laugh or Sue already knew it from the Rachael party. Either way, I was gonna say the Table would ban Mike thinking Lucy's last interaction with him was him being a piece of shit, and everyone not knowing he actually tried to apologize and sew things back. I would believe (now) that he felt so guilty, he didint tell that part of the story because "it doestn matter anymore".

It would change my prespective about the comic if Lucy then calls the table out for their double standards and reveals that Mike should not be held accountable for her own actions. But then that would call out 75% of the patreons and we cant risk losing money, do we,,,

>>149521501
>time skip of sorts
The comic did skip the summer months leading up to Lucy's return, so there's room for it to come and go.

>>149520479
I forgive you, anon.

>it is ME who am the fool
We are all fools for continuing to follow this accursed comic.

>>149521501
>It's that or she just wants to sidestep the actual consequences of the whole thing
I feel like it's this lol

>>149520509
>awful graphics
>bad characters
>dogshit story
>draw distance is abysmal
>endless wooden cutscenes
>maybe five minutes of actual gameplay

>>149521257
>he resists going back because he knows he's only tolerated due to Lucy's orders
It would fit with the supposed distrust he harbors toward the table, but that plotpoint is an older one so Taeshi is probably in the middle of replacing it with something far dumber.

>>149520924
There are already incest ones and I'd like to try one.

I finally saved up enough cereal tabs to get the Red Ryder decoder ring, which I have immediately taken and used upon the most unmedicated of schizoposts in /r9k/. At great cost to my sanity, I have gained knowledge of Friday’s page.

Madison states that she just realized something else, that the day immediately following Sue’s play was when news broke of Lucy’s attempt at suicide, and so of course nobody talked about Sue’s play, they were preoccupied with dealing with their classmate nearly dying. Madison tells Sue to keep that in mind and go easier on herself. Sue then looks a bit crestfallen before bashfully saying now she feels a bit guilty for acting like her problems were more important than Lucy’s (picrel). Madison then teasingly remarks about being well familiar with a playwright’s self-loathing, to which Jess tells her to knock it off.

I’m gonna be honest guys, I damn near kept this page to myself, as this might be the most unintentionally hilarious page that Taeshi has ever written, and to spoil it for you felt a little wrong.

>>149521814
Seriously, which of you fuckers paid Taeshi to have Sue unironically say “How dare I have problems, Lucy’s feelings are so much more important than me.” Fucking top kek.

>>149521814
I wonder if Lucy realizes everyone's being super nice to her because she's Little Miss Kills-Herself

>>149521814
>the day immediately following Sue’s play was when news broke of Lucy’s attempt at suicide
What fucking news? All the school said was that Lucy would no longer be coming to class. The table went to her house to find out what was going on, came away with no answers, and didn't get any until Rachel's party. Taeshi really does not remember what she wrote!

>>149521887
>Sue chapter
>all logic goes out the window
>enough about Sue let's talk about Lucy!
Whenever Lucy's not on the screen, the audience should ask, "Where's Lucy?"

>>149521723
I just don't understand why. Why was it ok to make it a plot point that Mike is at fault for Lucy's suicide attempt, but too far for everybody to find out and react accordingly?

>>149521814
If news was supposed to have broken all the way back then, then why did Sue act like she wasn't sure during All in the Mind? This is actually mindbreaking me, are we just supposed to assume everybody knew for sure right away what happened and just literally never mentioned it even when Lucy wasn't around? Are we actually the single digit IQ people for not taking this for granted all along?

>she feels a bit guilty for acting like her problems were more important than Lucy’s
When did she do this? Is Lucy's schizophrenic delusion about Sue overriding reality? Was she supposed to have been mad at David for not talking about Lucy instead earlier? Does everything have to be about Lucy all the time? What the fuck is happening?

>>149521257
>Can one of you mfs that lurk the bcb discord tell me if anyone there is talking about how weird this is?
Yes, there's a lot of discussion about it, particularly about how the reactions back in Happy Hour when Mike (inaudibly to the reader) explains what happened in December are very hard to make sense of now.

>>149521973
Nothing about this makes any fucking sense if you subscribe to standard narrative conventions. It's like Taeshi has decided she can retcon the comic as desired, without actually going back and "fixing" the problem pages. As if she were some grand exception to the rules.

>When did she do this?
It sounds like Sue is unironically blaming herself for not thinking about Lucy 24/7.

>>149522021
I am morbidly curious to hear how they take Friday's page. The patrons might self-select against intelligence, but it sounds like the discord peasants can still tell when something doesn't square quite right.

So when did she find out?

>>149520981
That doesn't work because he already explained what happened in Happy Hour.

>>149522149
To be way Way WAY more generous than this comic deserves, it COULD be argued that Sue knows full well what happened and is giving Lucy the chance to fess up. But if the whole school already knows, that also makes Lucy look retarded for not catching on.

Is there a special reason we're immediately assuming the random post about Friday's page isn't a shitpost? Not necessarily doubting, just curious.

>>149522171
All Mike explained in Happy Hour was how he broke Lucy down during December. He didn't tell his friends about the suicide attempt.

>>149521680
Am I the only one here who actually likes this comic?

>>149522198
Welcome to /bcb/. Here is your nametag. Hang around and you'll catch on pretty quick. But if you can still escape this dogshit comic then I would highly recommend doing that and never look back.

>>149522209
How could they have not figured it out? Paulo knows she tried to kill herself now too, so it can't come as a shock.

>>149522217
Probably.

>>149522249
Wondering what'll happen if the comic ends. I sincerely pray it never does. I guess we could still make /trash/ threads.

>>149522198
So far we haven't had a fake Odysseus anon. We've been getting accurate next page summaries for quite some time, so trust has built up. Also the current page is so stupid that anything could plausibly come after it.

>>149522240
Try explaining why their only reaction was a briefly angry Paulo, mild guilt over taking Mike for granted, and offering a toast to Lucy's wellbeing. Taeshi's the one who writes this crap, go pester her for answers on Bluesky or whatever.

>>149522198
very weird to see people lying in these threads when it comes to the patreon pages, even in the chapters that attracts the most discussion

>>149522232
>>149522272
I've been here on and off for years but somehow never caught one of these posts I guess

>>149522307
Unless she blocks you, then you'll have to ask her on other socials like Greengrass. :)
I'm wondering if any of the characters can write better than Veronica. Maybe Sue or Jessica since they actually already write.
I'm also 100% sure Sue wrote a gangbang smut involving her and the boys at one point, probably buried in her room somewhere.

>>149522240
It's just that they're back to being cool with Mike so soon after Happy Hour that it seems like they couldn't have had the full picture. Letting that shit be water under the bridge would be beyond most adults, let alone these kids.

Side note, this does make Sue's clapback at Mike in Behind Closed Doors look even worse
>guys you're being really mean
>stfu you made Lucy off herself

>>149522376
I assume this is another example of Taeshi's Leeroy Jenkins approach to storytelling. Just writing whatever she wants in the moment the mood strikes her, i.e. when she decided that Mike should slam Paulo's head into the table, damn the narrative consequences.

>>149522376
Since drunk Daisy empathized with him they all probably ended up becoming cool with him. Maybe what'll happen now is that they'll suck of to Lucy and have such a wildly new appreciation for Sue trying to see the best in her that it tempts them to welcome Lucy back and thus kick Mikie to the curb.

>>149522427
Daisy empathizing with Mike never stopped them before so that makes no sense.

>>149522408
Funny, cause Paulo got that fitting karma for abusing Mike. Now we just need Mike to smack the shit outta Lucy for some reason. I speculate Lucy will assault Sandy at a point which causes her and Mike to physically fight, maybe. Really Lucy could smack anybody. Daisy, Paulo, James, David, and it could piss Mike off.

>>149522454
>Now we just need Mike to smack the shit outta Lucy for some reason
Boy I sure wish that would happen. There's no point in trying to redeem Mike since Taeshi will always find some way to re-damn him. Might as well write him going full villain because at least that could be fun to watch.

>>149522480
True Colors and Talk It Out Like Adults=Villain Mike.

No doubt that Mike hitting Lucy even once would permenantly paint him as an irrideemable monster. Even just a brief, light slap. And this isn't even a female on male double standard cause nobody gave a shit about Mike when Paulo beat him with a bat. Not that Paulo crushing on Mike later wasn't cute but wow, the sheer audacity he had.
In addition to Jessica getting hurt for Paulo, Paulo, Lucy, Daisy, and Sue need to get hurt for Mike at some point. Sandy too honestly.

>>149520917
Lucy HAS said that, or at least heavily implied it. That's why everyone in these threads was fucking baffled the FIRST time it fizzled, when Paulo was like "Yeah, and?!"

>>149521108
>>149521217
The only thing I can think of that makes ANY sense is the meta explanation, where by Vol. 6 to now, Taeshi decided she wanted to center Mike and Lucy again, but didn't want Lucy to be too pathetic, so Mike was pathetic and shitty instead. But she apparently didn't want Mike to be the villain everyone hates, either, that role is reserved for Sandy so now she has to make him sympathetic. But him being explicitly blamed for Lucy's suicide would spoil that, so that's just been... dropped? But he's still becoming super depressed and avoidant, even though no-one's actually mad at him? I don't fucking know.

>>149522521
Honestly, I'd just like to see Mike accept he's irredeemable, both inherently and by reputation. Let him dip his toe into being the sort of asshole Taeshi loves so much and find that he enjoys it. Have him spread misery and absolve Lucy to her face because no wonder she kept hurting him. This shit feels great!

>>149522628
So once again it boils down to Taeshi writing checks she cannot cash. Same old story: She faffs around too long, building up a backlog of inconvenient little plot details, then tries to rush the actual story and trips over herself. Kind of like how Paulo x Daisy could have worked quite nicely at one point but is now a tepid little wreck held together by Because Taeshi Says So.

>What Taeshi said
Nobody else knows!
>What Taeshi meant
Literally the entire school found out the next day!

>>149522694
For me, it's slut Mike.

Asshole Mike could also work as the result of his complex around being "nice" but I think that kinda shit is too protagonist coded, he wouldn't get away with it like the others do.

>>149521680
Thank you, anon. I feel legitimately bad for giving Taeshi the benefit of the doubt and assuming this would make sense. This is a SPECTACULAR fumble. The last THREE VOLUMES now make no sense.

>>149522376
To me the issue isn't that it makes Sue or anyone look worse for being pissy at Mike, so much as it is that it makes them JUST being pissy make no sense. Like, who the fuck goes:
>"You contributed to our friend trying to kill herself, but we're still coming over to your house to talk about videogames."

>>149522863
Reality is dying.

On the other hand, it's good to have confirmation that we should never, ever take Taeshi seriously when she word of gods it up.

>>149522865
>he wouldn't get away with it like the others do
They key would have to be Mike no longer giving a fuck what anyone thinks about him. If he does not care about social pressure, there cannot be any consequences because this is BCB.

>>149521108
>Taeshi hated Mike and didn't give a shit about the consequences of having him push Lucy into suicide because she put all her chips in PxL
>Years later grows tired of that ship and now has to deal with the impossible challenge of somehow brushing a suicide attempt under the rug to rehab Mike
>her best attempt is just having the entire cast lampshade it
If karma is real I hope this blows up in her face and she has to live with her comic being destroyed by the short-sighted betrayal of her original leading man Mike.

>>149523079
Don't forget how she kept making her own job harder by turning Mike into a sperg goblin and then making EF's ending way worse than she'd intended. I cannot believe how hard she got blindsided on that one. It just goes to show she really is a careless asshole at heart.

>>149522198
Careful anon, lacking faith in the words of prophets is how one gets burnt at the stake.
>>149522272
I am somewhat surprised that no one has decided to pretend to be me yet. Not enough readers I guess.
>>149522217
I like it enough to give Taeshi money to keep making it.

>>149522863
To be honest, it was never really believable that no one else knew. You would not be able to keep that shit under wraps, some kid's parent is gonna be a cop, paramedic, doctor, secretary at the school, or something and let the secret slip.

>>149522904
You know, it's almost impressive. I've never before seen a truly fractal example of artistic incompetence. But through sheer laziness and dumbfuckery, Taeshi fumbled her way into creating something that, with just a bit more pressure, could collapse into a black hole of narrative stupidity.

>>149522628
I'm hoping that if Mike winds up being hated by everyone, Sandy will end up being his only source of validation and he'll be hanging by a thread probably waiting for Sandy to find an excuse to be upset with him. He'll probably blow something small out of proportion, some misunderstanding like Sandy hating him cause she didn't text enough heart emojis. She'll be burdened with the impossible task of lifting him out of crippling depression.
>>149522747
Is it a bad thing that Veronica's one of my biggest writing inspirations? Considering her reception though, I guess it's not all bad since she has a fanbase.
>>149522865
I badly want Mike to just suck it up and embrace polyamory, it's not like he's cheating on anyone since all the girls clearly want a piece of him, he just has to ask for they're okay with sharing him. Lucy, Sandy, Daisy, Amaya, Sue, Jessica, Rachel, Haley, Kizuna who totally exists. Throw in all the boys too.
>>149522863
When was this? Also Madison was at the party where Mike got drunk, can't think of anywhere else she'd hear about the suicide. Maybe she means nobody else than whoever was at the party.
>>149522904
It's beyond sad cause other than drunk Daisy and Sandy I don't think anybody else profoundly empathized with him for the abuse he took, and even then Daisy barely acknowledged it later and Sandy wanted them to make up anyway. Mike also hasn't disclosed anything to James so he truly is alone and misunderstood. He really just can't have happiness.
>>149523142
I'm hoping she'll make it till the day she dies, about the character's kids, grandkids. All the way up till they're senior citizens. Hopefully.

>>149520479
So how do you feel in the wake of Friday's spoilers?

>>149523242
>Is it a bad thing that Veronica's one of my biggest writing inspirations?
Yes. I've noticed that you shoot pretty low in your creative endeavors and should aspire to something better.

>Considering her reception though, I guess it's not all bad since she has a fanbase
People liking something should never be taken as an automatic endorsement of quality.

>>149523242
>I guess it's not all bad since she has a fanbase
She's been doing this comic since forever, back when there was less competition so growing a fanbase was much easier than nowadays. If she started today, her comic would be just one more in a sea of webcomics.

>>149523296
It's a bit spoilery but I'm dedicating my forseeable life to one that I'm hoping will pay off.
>>149523438
I see. Still it takes a lot of passion and effort to make one anyway.

>>149523467
>It's a bit spoilery but I'm dedicating my forseeable life to one that I'm hoping will pay off
I don't get it. You keep posting your stuff here, your pictures get rightly torn apart for being really really bad, but you keep on posting more anyway. Nothing about those pictures ever gets better. Are you expecting their reception to magically change or what?

>>149523242
>Is it a bad thing that Veronica's one of my biggest writing inspirations?
She's certainly outfoxed me. I always add the preamble when I tell you guys the next page because the idea of someone undergoing multiple life-threatening quests to gain nuggets of info on a webcomic is amusing to me. But it would have been a billion times funnier if I had been able to come in here and tell you guys Friday's page without having already proven myself a credible source of info.

>>149523556
I've never seen Multidude drawings. Am I blessed or does my brain remove the atrocities

>>149523649
Sounds more like you just overestimated her. Which somehow never gets any more difficult no matter how low she sinks as a writer.

>>149523747
It's odd cause unlike many I like her newer chapters more than older ones.

>>149521814
>they were preoccupied with dealing with their classmate nearly dying.


Wait so does that mean more than the two groups knew?!


If it was such a known thing in the school that she tried to kill herself, Mike should have been on the outs with the entire student body by now! There's no way nobody, absolutely nobody involved with either of the two cats could put two and two together.

>>149522863
I feel like Taeshi meant no one knew why Lucy decided to kill herself or how Mike was involved.

>>149521814
>>149522149
>>149522863
MY BRAIN IS COLLAPSING IN ON ITSELF.

>>149524286
Well this just brings us back to >>149520981

Did we really wait all this time for them to realize that Mike making Lucy le sad and her spilling her ketchup are causally linked somehow?

>>149524286
I feel like that's pretty ridiculous to assume and borderline cope

>>149524370
They could've thought Lucy was pregnant and the father wasn't Mike so she tried to kill herself then moved away to have an abortion in a state that's legal.

>>149524262
I assume nobody said anything about it, outside of the party guests.

>>149524286
>no one knew why Lucy decided to kill herself or how Mike was involved
Why, because of high levels of lead in the water?
>durrrrr i wonder if this had anything to do with what Mike told us at Rachel's party?
>you know the shit Paulo blamed him for?
>nawwwww couldn't be!

>>149524482
Would an embryo even survive that fall's impact?

>>149524286
>So the maincast all know what Mike did to Luce in 'December', but do they also know that she attempted suicide or do they only know about her transferring to another school? Did Mike tell them in his drunken state about the suicide attempt as well?
>Veronica: Only Mike knows about the attempted suicide, and that was only fully realised because he has masterful hearing that allowed him to listen to her passive aggression in Unspoken Rule!
>Lily never outright told him about it in Breaking Up so Mike wouldn’t have been able to talk about it in Happy Hour.
No she was just being pedantic. At that time she meant '100% knows for certain' so guessing with good reason that Lucy tried to kill herself doesn't count. Maybe she's retconning it for Omnibus 2?

>>149520269 (OP)
>>149521814
>>149521106
Oh top of the whole "so, tons of shit just got retconned and everyone got dumber"... Why I have a bad feeling that not only this is leading towards "Those cats will assume that Mike directly caused her to jump and act accordingly" after remembering that Mike went to talk with Lucy right after play, but delivered in a manner that will make Paulo assume that it's HE who caused and fucked up everything by fucking Lucy and thus souring Mike-Lucy attempt to make up? And that in previews of 127 Paulo is being a nervous mess not because he gives a fuck about Mike and his wellbeing but because he's guilty and afraid that when people learn this everything will crumble, especially his current relationship with Daisy...

>>149524577
> everything will crumble, especially his current relationship with Daisy...
Yes! Yes!! This would be perfect! Paulo's character development woulb be a cherry on top.

>>149524577
That sounds pretty interesting idk why it gives you a bad feeling. Paulo giving a fuck about Mike is a coin toss anyway, not really losing a prized possession there. That said if he was only afraid for his own ass idk why'd scan the track team's table looking for Mike.

I am actually suprised by how little incest was brought up because of this page. good job /bcb/.

>>149524555
That's retarded. He knew Lucy was in the hospital, he knew she was turbo depressed, he even dreamed about her bleeding out and that it was all his fault. How the fuck are we supposed to believe he didn't put two and two together?

>>149521887
>>149521946
As a Sue enjoyer, I think I have to have a blood feud with Taeshi now. This shit is ridiculous. Oh well, I'm still better off than the Daisy enjoyers.

>>149521973
The only thing that could possibly salvage some sense from this [Which, for the record, I am sure that Taeshi will not do. Fool me once.] is if it's revealed that Mike and Lucy are both legitimately insane, and everyone knows it and is constantly trying to tiptoe around them. So they keep desperately trying to get Lucy to open up without putting her on the spot, since they know she'll screech and hit them if she feels cornered. And they try to never tell Mike that they blame him for Lucy's suicide, since they know Lucy abused him and are afraid he'd hang himself or stab them or something if they slip up. Sue forgets sometimes because she has autism.

>>149524577
>Okay no one cared about Lucy's suicide attempt this time but NEXT time it's gonna blow up everything!
Bruh, just let it die

>>149521895
It doesn't help that those chapters were written OVER 12 YEARS AGO!!! No wonder Taeshi forget what she wrote.

>>149524755
Ah, this is my fear. I forget shit I wrote mere months ago.

>>149520509
>try building my own party
>game inexplicably forces you to play as David for most of the plot
What where they thinking!?!?

>>149524755
Oh heaven forbid that Taeshi ever review her own work! Besides, isn't she working on the second omnibus? The woman has zero excuse for this.

>>149524722
>Mike and Lucy are both legitimately insane
Remember that time Mike straight up blacked out at school and woke up at home? Like he was startled to find himself there?

>>149524846
>try to build social links with party members
>relationship points based entirely on most recent interaction instead of being cumulative
>sometimes the game bugs and they just reset to the default disposition
I'd rather brush my teeth with day old dog dookie than play this shitload of fuck!

>>149524967
>Remember that time Mike straight up blacked out at school and woke up at home? Like he was startled to find himself there?
The only explanation I can think of is untreated schizophrenia or unexplained psychic phenomena

>>149524967
>lucy path
>she's constantly being hit on and crushing on guys who straight up don't exist in other character paths
Is she schizo?

>>149524846
>There's rendering bugs out the fuck, too.
>Watch: When I stand here, Lucy's not there. One step closer, and she pops in! Step back, and she blips out again. There, gone, there, gone.
>The same thing happens to Paulo in this scene; there's no walking animation or anything, he just fucking spawns out of thin air!
What, did they program this game by pissing on their keyboards!?

>>149525020
>sour Mike on Lucy
>ship her with an I Can't Believe He's Not Mike fancharacter
>Paulo loses Lucy's trust
>write au comic series where he fixes all of Lucy's problems by fucking her
Taeshi always loved to have her cake and eat it too.

revisiting old chapters, "why didn't you stay gone" is crazy, this whole outburst and especially that last line doesn't look good when you take into account that he supposedly knew this whole time

>>149524785
Imagine working on the same story for over 20 years
>>149524948
Omnibus 2: Electric Boogaloo is going to be a cluster fuck especially with Taeshi aging, she's in her 40s now, and she definitely wants to change her story.

>>149524967
>>149525014
>>149525020
I was semi-joking with the "Mike and Lucy are severe schizophrenics and all their friends are quietly afraid of them but trying to be supportive" theory, but it really is the only way any of this could make sense.

Either that or Psi-BCB. Take your pick, I guess.

>>149525101
The worst part is that her current writing is noticeably inferior to what she put out one or two decades ago. The comic got worse when Taeshi decided to "grow up." Sandy is clearly not meant to be Taeshi but she's sure looking like a bad case of projection right now.

>>149525090
Honestly Paulo should've just screamed
>Why didn't you die!!
Lucy would've still forgave him anyways

>>149525159
>Sandy and Lucy are going to be the self-insert for their author whose a 40 old Latina whose ovaries are drying up
It'll either be hilariously bad or just sad

>>149525090
And David constantly joking about Lucy being dead when he knows she tried to commit suicide

>>149525261
Maybe we're all wrong. Maybe everyone in Roseville is in a cult and Lucy was supposed to be some sort of sacrifice.

>>149525261
Fucking hell, even the shit that replaced her watercolor work looks better than what Taeshi's putting out these days.

>>149525261
David really is just a sociopath isn't he? It's all fun and games until they find somebody's head buried in his backyard because they "got in the way of his OTP".

>We're here! We're real!
Yup! Another tally on the schizo Mike board!

>>149525090
Taeshi really did just load up a round of buckshot, aimed it at her foot, and blew off her own leg, huh?

>>149525322
Maybe the reason Daisy is super into Mike, very interested in Augustus, and willing to settle for Abbey (until he had enough of her bullshit) is because her "type" is psychologically damaged boys. Who she likes to tease, hoping they'll lash out and rape her.

Paulo better start building up that mommy complex.

>>149525101
Well it depends on what they are. I want to make two conceptually long stories that have one continuity. Depends on how much passion and effort you put into the idea, whether 20 years is worth it. I think Veronica could release faster but obviously sets the schedule for Patreon money for the next page.
>>149525090
He's probably wondering why she'd bother coming back to the source of her troubles (Roseville) if she wasn't going to bother reciprocating Paulo's feelings.
>>149525496
At first she was a simp but she's very likely attracted to boys with tragedy or misfortune out of desire to comfort them. Paulo is poor, Abbey having an abusive father, Augustus having negligent parents and being poor, Mike, um, being on the other end of Lucy's abuse which Daisy rarely acknowledges. But she did mention him seeing the good in everyone who mistreats him like Lucy and Paulo did. Daisy also likely felt guilty for expecting him to reciprocate her feelings.
I don't think this applies to any of the characters yet but it is an existing phenomenon for S.A victims to rationalize or cope with their trauma through sexual fantasies. I doubt Veronica will every write them though like some fanfic writers have.

>>149525322
>Yup! Another tally on the schizo Mike board!
Having near-prophetic dreami info about Lucy suicide attempt already made him a bit of a schizo, correct?

>>149525632
>He's probably wondering why she'd bother coming back to the source of her troubles (Roseville) if she wasn't going to bother reciprocating Paulo's feelings.


We never got a concrete answer for why she came back or an actual look at what she even did while gone. I think Taeshi never thought about it and just decided to bring Lucy back on a whim.

>>149525662
The resident demiurge inceptioned the crippling guilt right into his head. Mike's never been the same since.

>>149525725
It makes the most sense to return for her family and Augustus, she didn't give a shit about any of her friends, or at least pretended not to since she had no issue with Sue or Daisy.

>>149525725
You got concrete answers you just think Lucy hates her family for some reason so it doesn't count.

>>149525662
I TOLD you about Psi-BCB. I warned ou dog.

>>149525791
When, motherfucker?

>>149525785
The problem is that Lucy treats her family like a nuisance and didn't know Augustus would still be around.

>>149526099
So, almost certainly next chapter before James starts hating him. And probably David being a retard offscreen.

>sad possessive eyes
Maybe if Taeshi practiced different expressions, her comments would actually match her art.

>>149525632
>He's probably wondering why she'd bother coming back to the source of her troubles (Roseville) if she wasn't going to bother reciprocating Paulo's feelings.

No shit, but you don't exactly tell your friend that tried to kill themselves that they should have stayed gone, or paint them as cruel because they want to be left alone. This just seems more written as if Paulo didn't knew than something he said at the heat of the moment.

>>149526099
Probably Mike envying David and James again.
>>149526277
Fair but Paulo did wonder why considering he was just told Lucy didn't need any of his friends.

>>149525662
>>149525736
>>149525833
Maybe Mike received a psychic flash of Lucy because there minds got linked at some point. Lucy geassed poor ole Mike when they were toddlers or something.

>>149526099
Context: Bramblepaws prodded Taeshi that if Mike's not one of the straights then what's his sexuality? Taeshi responded with that image and
>Let's be real (kissing face)
So Mike's not straight and he's in love with James. The explosive double date thing will be Paulo lecturing Mike to date James instead of Sandy.

>>149526470
Jordan is so lucky here

>>149526350
Lucy's return to Roseville set off his sixth sense. An alarm for incoming abuse.

>>149526470
Given the whole "nobody knows about Lucy's suicide but x" shit, Taeshi's statements are worthless because she can change her mind in a snap.

>>149525135
>>149525322
Come to think of it, did anyone other than Mike and Lucy ever INTERACT with the sub-person talking birds or awful yoshi thing?

>>149526099
>Mike pushing someone away and being a possessive freak when they find someone else
I can't wait for him to finally learn to be a decent person in the last chapter!

>>149526543
>what if i took one of Lucy's myriad hangups and forced it on my other main character?
>delightfully devilish Veronica!

>>149526477
Matt, not so much. But that means David or any of the Track Team boys.

>>149526543
More like he rejected his abuser and can't believe she's rather hang out with Daisy's molester.

>>149526470
and they called me crazy for saying that mike was only pursuing james because he was the only left that could fill his lucy spot, all while he ignores everyone that wants to be his friend.

>>149526706
I think Mike's best cure right now is to find all the boys and girls who simped for him in eighth grade, they'd probably treat him nicer than his friends.

Or probably be just like them and expect some kind of romantic satisfaction offering nothing in return. I did have this idea for the three weird girls being yanderes and kidnapping Mike, sounds like a good B.C.I plot.

>>149526706
I thought that was pretty obvious and said so repeatedly. Mike just wants a best friend, though this particular conflict came out of the blue because Taeshi never bothered to actually set up any pottery between Mike and Lucy. Or at least none she's smart enough to recognize.

>>149526706
Yes well, this thread has a problem with accepting very explicit plot developments because it conflicts with their pre-established headcanons, like the people who didn't think Daisy and Paulo were going to date and for some reason still think they're going to break up, or the guy who still bagholds for Daisy loving Mike and lying about not liking him anymore despite zero evidence.
Hopefully this matter will be a lesson to everyone to take the comic as it is instead of as they wish it to be, but I seriously doubt it.

>>149526767
Learn to read

>>149526978
>or the guy who still bagholds for Daisy loving Mike and lying about not liking him anymore despite zero evidence
oh don't remind me, maisy fans were deluded

>>149526988
Testy today, I see.

Serious question here lads, do you think Taeshi genuinely believes her writing is good, or is she by and large just tossing the first idea she thinks of on the page to keep the gravy train rolling?

>>149526706
Amazing idea to take the most hated character and have him crash out because he wants to cheat on his girlfriend but can't. Even better that he's already cheated with Daisy (and Lucy, according to some). Personally I can't think of any other ways to write this scenario. I'm sure any future attempts to redeem him will be unhindered by this.

>>149527495
>do you think Taeshi genuinely believes her writing is good, or is she by and large just tossing the first idea she thinks of on the page to keep the gravy train rolling?
Lattter, since apparently the Mike slamming Paulo head into the table was spur of the moment. If a development makes zero sense, always assume it's a spur-of-the-moment change or retcon that happens just cause.
>>149526543
s a perfect example of it since it ignores all context and history into order to jam in pottery. Which that image is funnier cause Lucy did end up making Augustus her Mike and did the same with paulo for a bit.

>looked to see if the new popularity contest results finally got posted
>see this
haha

>>149527495
It's hard, often creators are very critical of their own creations but the good ones try their very damn best.

>>149527718
>>149527754
damn dude what's your response?

>>149527718
Good to know Almultimavenger is as much a plague on the wider BCB community as he is here. God that's hilarious though.

>>149527754
I hope you're proud of yourself. You drove the last Daisy x Abbey shipper in the world to wits end. So much so she had to call (You), yes (You) specifically out for it.

>>149527754
Well done, from all the outcast discord servers, to the main server and now agent, consistently, everyone has kicked you out, some achivement.
Everyone hates you because you're a genuinely unlikable retard with no social skills, get a job

>>149527495
Everything I've seen of her indicates that Taeshi really takes herself seriously as a writer. The problem is she has no external sources of critique who aren't yes-people and no longer questions herself.

>>149527782
Well I've only ever complimented her and promoted her art so I don't know what she's getting so worked up about, it strikes me as petty. Her name and her friend's names are also public on their pages by the way, if they don't want anybody to know them, they shouldn't display them. But I did gain an appreciation for internet anonymity which is why I started abbreviating indie creator's names.

>>149527938
They were all unwarrented.

>>149527718
Fukkin' yikes

>>149527970
Have you ever tried to just like...listen to other people instead of making up excuses to stay the course?

>>149527718
At some point, I'm gonna need someone to type up a synopsis of all the conflicts and the personae dramatis of BCB. I've only started reading it in the last six months or so, so I never got to experience fan characters like Liam or Kizuna, and I certainly don't get to witness the development of such great fandom moments like this.

>>149528092
I pride myself with open-mindedness. Honesty and open-communication resolve issues after all.
>>149528103
They are prominently featured in the early omnibus which is available on the website, but I wouldn't recommend them. In terms of writing quality they're vastly inferior to Veronica's reboot.

>>149528040
How do you get this many people to hate you and still not develop the self-awareness to stop? Pattern recognition is humanity's greatest asset and you refuse to use it.

>>149528040
Genuine question. Are you an actual low functioning Autist/Retard. Or is all your behavior, everything some sort of long con troll to make BCB as a whole worse. Be honest.

>>149527970
I'm guessing you have a some high level of autism by your lack of social etiquette but if someone blocks you, that usually means "leave me the fuck alone"

>>149528158
Well, she has honestly and openly communicated that she wants you to leave her the fuck alone.

>>149528171
Well the sad universal truth is that the internet is a hostile and toxic place, there also isn't a lot of objectivity on here. I'm not saying every single person is, just, a lot.

>>149528193
I lack confirmation for the first, and well since I love Veronica's story and hope to pay tribute to it, I'd say no for the second.

>>149527718
Anybody else feel somehow responsible for this guy? As if we spawned him and unleashed him on the world. I just feel bad looking at this shit.

>>149528250
Don't feel bad anon. It was inevitable a super autist would one day attach themselves to BCB. And they just tend to post here because there's no community oversight to ban them like on discord. Unless they start doxing people by accident or something.

>>149528250
Not really. Did he found bcb through /bcb/?

>>149527932
I feel bad for agentchimendez, honestly. DaisyxAbbey is a strange choice to ship, considering neither of them were happy in that relationship, but no shipper except zutarans deserves to have their ship burnt to the ground in front of them like that.

>>149528250
Not responsible exactly, but I DO regret giving him the benefit of the doubt at one point.

>>149528338
I stumbled on it accidentally after getting attached to Lackadaisy, either through an ad or more likely a Google image. I started reading it in March and later October of 2023 and glad I did. It's now my favorite book and a life-changing inspiration.

>>149528370
>Pic
Feels more like Lucy being a hypocrite since she did string Paulo along a lot... and Mike when they were younger, but their whole relationship when they were younger was a bit weird. Plus Lucy whole deal is boy crush stuff, its the only reason she is even back into the story since she has no other plotline. WHih is more of an issue since I cant remember if Mike or her have goals beyond high school. Daisy, (Abbey?), Sue, and Paulo, I think I can remember but I don't remember if those two have any.

>>149528250
I can't be held responsible for every tard that slithers out of 4chan.
>>149528382
>my favorite book
Still not at the grade level where you can handle the ones without pictures in them, huh champ?

>>149528425
Lucy IS a hypocrite, but so is Daisy, and it takes one to know one: they're the only ones who call each other out.

On the topic of plans, one might be able to presume that Lucy intends to go to college given how she browbeat Augustus into it. But even that is extrapolating from her relationship with a boy.

I missed the last few threads, but I just gotta say that 6 uninterrupted pages of Sue bullying herself to tears is everything I could ever ask for

>>149528539
>On the topic of plans, one might be able to presume that Lucy intends to go to college given how she browbeat Augustus into it. But even that is extrapolating from her relationship with a boy.
Weird how when Lucy was less "dependent" on boys that she seemed to have more character, vs the story saying she is more independent now(or did at one point). SInce Daisy is now in a secure relationship, are her major issues just gone?

>>149528539
Assuming she's a desperate narcassist with a superiority complex, especially since she claims not to need her friends yet hangs out with Sue and Daisy, she may very likely go just to show off especially to prove how greatly she can live without dependency on Mike. She can try but fail in denying that she still wants romantic validation from him, given how pissed she got in Eternal Flame.
>>149528540
Okay, calm down Katie.

BRO WHO FUCKING CAAAAARES
what is this comic even about anymore
all I want at this point is for abe to date jasmine

>>149528720
>Walks down the hall with Jasmine, Haley, Mina, and Cassidy. Jelly Daisy looks on.

>>149528158
>Honesty and open-communication resolve issues after all
Are you capable of acknowledging that you might be wrong about that? Or at least that you are making presumptions with that statement?

>>149528250
>Anybody else feel somehow responsible for this guy
No, he came to the threads like this and has stubbornly refused to take advice in other online spaces.

>>149528425
>>149528539
Every time Lucy talks with Daisy it feels like Worst Cat is just projecting.

>>149529001
Reminded me of this edit from way back

>>149528662
Lucy is a weird character in general. Both the characters nor the comic itself seem to flip-flop on whether she's an abusive hypocrite who will lie, scream, and hit her friends full-force to try and avoid having to talk to them, or a gentle and kind friend who's sardonicism comes from a place of love and who's punches are just gentle shoulder taps.

>SInce Daisy is now in a secure relationship, are her major issues just gone?
I would say no, that Paulo and Daisy are doomed to either break up or at the very least have a nasty argument due to both of them being jealous skanks who want unconditional love and loyalty but can't provide it. But after this page I have zero faith in Taeshi to make good on anything, so yeah, all the baggage and shit is gone now. It never existed in the first place, in fact. All those things you thought were characterizing Paulo and Daisy, developing their arcs, showing their flaws? Those were actually just them pining for each other, or something.

>>149528981
He hasn't taken our advice, either. Several anons told him to fuck off and lurk more, and then were even courteous enough to explicitly spell out what he was doing wrong when he refused to get the message.

I would feel bad for him, but you can't help those who refuse to learn.

>>149526978
Hey now, I never said Daisy and Paulo WEREN'T going to get together. I just said they shouldn't.

>>149529518
Lucy's schizophrenic hallucinations seem a lot more self aware than she is.

>>149529544
Lucy is whatever Taeshi wants her to be, in the moment.

>>149526978
Oh fucking please. For a time, Paisy was decried as unsubstantiated headcanon because it'd been set up way back in volume 1 and then evaporated until Daisy randomly fell in love with Paulo over a milkshake. You're describing headcanon vs headcanon then declaring the outcome was always "obvious" in post.

>>149529649
nta but
>is suitcase's favorite ship
>in-story characters always allude to them getting together
>they blush around each other (the excessive blush type not the normal one)
>daisy calls paulo attractive in her birthday
>daisy prioritizing paulo over her boyfriend
it's obvious daisy's always been into him but didn't realize it up until somewhere around halloween, taeshu just decided that this revelation would just happen behind the scenes, but like, the evidence was clearly there

>>149529983
Nobody in comic hinted the two should get together after volume 1, outside of jokes. Abbey's paranoia about Paulo wanting to boink Daisy obviously should not count. Daisy's inequal treatment of Paulo over Abbey was always blamed on her longtime friendship and she showed zero interest in him until the anime convention. And the birthday came after that.

A full turn of the clock has passed since the delivery of the page proving the precocious screeds of that mad, raving prophet once again unnervingly accurate - a mere sixth-turn later, he came again, laughing madly as he recounted the events yet to come. I am still reeling from the force of the epiphany. Perhaps it was credulous of me, to assume that the quaint causality we are accustomed to in our crepuscular consciousness still applied, in this abyss of the sane.

>>149530260
This page is going to hit the official server like a 9/11 aircraft. Since Taeshi does not lurk there anymore, she'll be completely blindsided on social media.

>>149530139
>she showed zero interest in him until the anime convention
You're just blind, which kind of proves my point.
Also, the convention chapter is 10 years old, why are you acting like it's recent?

>>149530379
What, did you need me to spell out "romantic" interest because context eludes you? It doesn't fucking matter when the convention chapter happened because it still took years of "no anon, you're retarded, there's no evidence Paisy will ever happen" to get there.

>>149528250
I haven't seen him on 4chan until after he already got banned from the BCB server. BCB brought him here, not the other way around. For a moment I thought this was an attempt from suitcase to kill any non-sanctioned discussion platform but he seems to be pestering anyone and everyone who ever posted about BCB, not just the unofficial channels.

I thought he was just a retard who didn't understand how to be normal but based on his comments here he just seems to be an asshole. He doxed himself by using his full name everywhere, maybe someone should just call his parents and let them know what their retard son is up to.

>>149529518
Whoa, this was you? I remember seeing this, got a laugh out of me.

>>149528250
Eh, we didn't make him, he was already like that when he came aboard specifically because he was kicked from other places, also he doesn't have that 4chan brand of autism that makes you insufferable and ruins every discussion by association (think Barneyfag), he's just very socially inept to the point he's at home here

>>149530139
sure whatever, i'm sorry you can read the most obvious subtext, like you do know those jokes serve a purpose right? or that abbey's paranoia was those jokes manifested into a whole plot point and the eventual set up for paisy?

>>149530469
You thinking they were just platonically sitting by a lake gushing over each other is more proof of my point, it was being set up the moment Lucy left and you just refused to acknowledge it.

>>149530833
Personally I figured Paisy would probably be endgame, given how they kept getting teased and all. I hoped I was wrong, but it was... inoffensive, until the chapter Paulo shanghaied Abbey back together with Daisy, despite her not loving or even really caring about him. That chapter nosedived both Paulo and Daisy's likability. Also, while DaisyXAbbey was clearly on borrowed time, who the fuck says "Hey, boy who hates me, I demand you get with the girl I like!"?

But I digress. My point is that I knew Paisy would probably occur, I just hoped it wouldn't, because the idea of so blatantly "pairing the spares" seemed boring. Even WITHOUT the context where both of them first accept that their first choice (Lucy and Mike respectively) isn't available, then get with their second choice (Rachel and Abbey respectively) who treats them really well but they don't reciprocate and thus get broken up with, then they double-check that their third choice (James and Augustus respectively) is unavailable and give one last hail mary at their first choice, and only then finally decide to get together. WITH all that context, Paisy goes from boring to outright depressing.

Word of God says Mike is gay now https://bsky.app/profile/taeshi.bcb.cat/post/3lunjkurop22a

James turned him

>>149531337
yeah I understand, it's a boring ass ship and I don't think it has any real fans lol but I guess taeshi likes them enough to make them endgame despite there being better options

>>149531544
As if it wasn't obvious when he turned down an entire school of girls to date a phone

>>149527718
I am sorry, Anons. I am sorry, Agent. When I banned Al, I unknowingly unleashed a demon upon us.

But I have a plan to end it. I know whp his parents are. I know where he lives. I'm not gonna do anything crazy like dox his personal information or swat him, but someone needs to show his parents what he has been doing. Hopefully they take his internet away.

So document all you can, send it to me, and I will send it to them.

Almultiavenger, you have harrassed too many people. You have harrassed me, my friends, and many others in the community, but not anymore. Your days are numbered.

This isn't a threat. This is a promise. I am going to show your super conservative, religious parents all of your degeneracy online and hope they do something about you. I'm sure they're gonna love your views on sexualizing minors, or all that gay art you drew.

>>149532225
Man the thread lore for /bcb/ is getting deep

>>149529983
God forbid a boy befriends a girl. They talk to each other and worry about each other? They must be in looooove!
I mean, Daisy's a hot mess, she's been drooling over Paulo's "boyish charm" for forever, probably. But Paulo has refered to her as "his little sister" constantly and treated her differently from the other girls. That's the main reason I never believed Paisy could or should have happened.
I really grief over the destruction of their friendship. I liked it when Paulo was protective of her, worried about his image in her eyes, was her first choice to ask what was it like to lose virginity. We need more genuine platonic relationships between sexes, we really do.

>>149532225
He mailed me multiple photos of cats and asked if I thought they looked breedable. When I said yes, he asked me if I wanted one of the kittens, then showed up outside of my house wearing a fursuit. Then he shit in the sandcastle my kids made in their play area and dashed off on all fours.

>>149532225
He sent me a page from a biology textbook detailing how and why felines have spined penises, with a note saying “This makes no sense, they have played us for fools.” Fucking note was made from newspaper and magazine clippings like a god damn ransom note too.

>>149532457
>>149532485
Nice try, Al. But your days are numbered.

>>149532225
He asked me what brand of air fryer I used. I told him, and then he sent me a photo of him giving me a thumbs up and saying “Thanks, frying up some tater tots in it now.” It was in a fucking keurig.

>>149532225
He started hammering at my door at 3 in the morning. When I opened it and asked him what the fuck was so god damn important, he pointed at the moon and asked me if that had always been there.

>>149529544
>Lucy is a weird character in general. Both the characters nor the comic itself seem to flip-flop on whether she's an abusive hypocrite who will lie, scream, and hit her friends full-force to try and avoid having to talk to them, or a gentle and kind friend who's sardonicism comes from a place of love and who's punches are just gentle shoulder taps.

She's one of the most inconsistent characters and in theory you could chalk it up to her mental issues. But in reality, Taeshi is just free balling her. She has been since she came back from the suicide attempt.


The plot point of Lucy trying to be a better person got abandoned after she jumped, and ever since then it's mostly been a pity party for her.

>>149520269 (OP)
>whenever sue's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, "where's sue?"

>>149532674
this but unironically

>>149532501
Do you actually thought no that dumbass is capable of such creativity?

>>149532774
>Do you actually think that dumbass is capable of such creativity

Phoneposting defeats me yet again.

>>149532564
>The plot point of Lucy trying to be a better person got abandoned after she jumped, and ever since then it's mostly been a pity party for her.
Narrative, Lucy exists just to be a thorn in Mike's side.
>Refuses to interact long with old friends
>Even in her own house she just exists.
>Augustus sometimes acts more like a character than her.
I woukda said everyone side but let's face it. Mike is the only reason she us back as Lucy was never a family girl and didn't know her emo was still around. All insight into her head is insanity too but won't be treated as such.

>>149532426
I'm fine with either outcome depending on how they're executed. They were sweet when they were friends and they are now when in a relationship, and it's very likely they could break up or that we can see many platonic relationships by the end of the arc.
>>149532564
Yeah, like many of the characters Lucy has a progression and regression cycle.

>>149532894
True, and she also doesn't face a lot of consequences for it proportionally, her family and friends permit and excuse her, villifying Mike and acting like he's irrational which is a major contributor to why he's so self hating now, even despite him playing child psychiatrist/punching bag to her for most of his life. I do firmly believe she's back for her family, she did despise Mike for rejecting her romantic advance despite clearly loving him and envying Sandy, but I doubt she'd move all the way back home just for him since she blamed him for her own problems.

>>149533116
Why did you shit in that guy’s kids’ sandbox?

bcb ms paint dump

>>149531544
This page and Friday's page have established that her word of god means jack shit.

>>149531097
This is rich. You call me blind but outright hallucinate implications of romance. Fucker, they were portrayed as close friends and pseudo siblings. Paulo said that is how he saw Daisy, why he was weirded out by the idea of dating her. There is absolutely nothing on that page that indicates a single spark of romantic desire in Daisy. She is being her (at the time) sweet (mostly) innocent self to Paulo and supporting him because he is her friend.

>>149533264
The Lucy commentary is gold.

>>149530833
Look, don't get butthurt at me because you can't come up with anything compelling. Back then, you'd be laughed out of the thread for how hard you're reaching.

>>149533603
NTA, but men and women cannot be friends.
The reason why brothers don't fuck their sisters is because we evolved to see siblings as unattractive.
If you're not genetically similar, the only thing preventing you from fucking your sister are cultural norms.
And those are VERY flexible. Can't win against teenage hormones.

>>149533631
You need to get out of the basement more.

>>149533672
And you need to experience reality for once instead of basing your entire worldview on badly written teenage drama.

>>149533687
My comment is based on life experience, you snide little turbovirgin.

>>149533631
> If you're not genetically similar, the only thing preventing you from fucking your sister are cultural norms
You idiot, there's nothing but cultural norms, even with your real siblings. You cannot sense genetic similarity, you only don't want to fuck your family because you've spent a lot of time with them. It's all the same with your childhood friends. You spend a lot of time with them, you get accustomed, you don't want to fuck them because now it feels weird. And I'm talking from expirience btw.
Stop reading so much manga.

>>149533622
Well, it's accurate anyway.

>>149533264
You've got style! I like it very much.

>>149533768
Exactly. That's why it's so funny. Not for poor Mike though.

>>149534058
Hey, why do you avoid the hard questions asked of you in these threads? And then just go on trying to act like they didn't happen?

>>149534127
Trolls and cyberbullies thrive on attention, it's best not to feed them.

>>149533767
>You cannot sense genetic similarity, you only don't want to fuck your family because you've spent a lot of time with them.
I guess all those people who have married their childhood friends actually wanted to fuck their siblings.

>>149533627
like it or not paisy happened and nobody was surprised except you

>>149534187
Dumbass, I was one of the few defending the idea it would happen. It absolutely came as a surprise no matter how much you want to believe otherwise.

>>149534148
What did the keurig tater tots taste like?

>>149534179
You mean the very low number of such people compared to those who DIDN'T marry their childhood friends?

>>149534179
Incest also happens. It'd take more than few exceptions to defy the general rule.
You should also note that not every childhood friendship is a literal "we have been growing up alongside since the cradle".

>>149534148
I asked you a completely serious question about whether you were capable of accepting you might be wrong. That falls into neither category.

>>149527718
Maybe it's the fact that I've been here for a good while so I know what the bottom of the abyss looks like but I feel like Mult dude is tame, just slightly annoying and pushy, which makes these people look even worse because if this guy is what drives them insane I want to see how they react to an actually hostile autist like the ones we're used to

>>149534423
I think it's the fact that he at first comes across like the sort of person who *would* listen and modify his own behavior, in that he's not an obvious flaming asshole. But the fact that he just inexplicably refuses to take any external input that does not confirm his own opinions, then keeps pushing and pushing and *pushing* no matter how many times he is told to stop labels him as a different kind of asshole. That is, the sort who prioritizes their desires over everyone else's come hell or high water.

>>149525090
>>149525632
>Why did you come back?!
To be fair, this could possibly be something a young person could say in that scenario. It's a very shitty thing to say, but it's possible, I think.

>>149534547
Nobody said it was unrealistic, just that it made Paulo look way worse in hindsight.

>>149534230
to you

>>149534423
it can always be worse, but slightly annoying may be a bit of a understatement in my opinion, he seems annoying as fuck

>>149534635
If only you could read.

>>149534732
no you

>>149534767
>inbred baboon can't understand that the guy who gets to say "I told you so" will be the absolute last person surprised by said turn of events
Glad we cleared that up. You may now commence the ineffectual pettiness.

>>149534990
>>149534767
can you guys just kiss and make up? Sheesh.

>>149520269 (OP)
Legit question, does anyone have any hopes for this comic?

Personally, I'm disheartened by it. I don't see any way that this comic will end up in a satisfying manner for anyone. It's just misery and misery all the time, the perspective of any of them having a good or satisfying ending is very bleak.

I particularly don't see how things can end up well for neither Mike or Lucy. I used to think that the story would always default to them being together, that they'd make amends and all eventually, but after so many years and after the both of them doing so much awful shit to each other, I don't see how this is a possibility any longer, which ok, might be realistic in this situation, but it is still frustrating to read.

>>149535213
Misery breeds emotional weight. Either they'll all have a happy ending after a dire climax and resolution at the end, or a negative morbid one. I'm open to either.

>>149535237
You still haven't answered my completely legitimate question. It's a very bad look for you.

>>149535237
I'd like a good ending for a change, specially after all these years of just bad events happening.

>>149535213
I've viewed the story as more of a tragedy than a romance ever since eternal flame, though you could really class everything post-ketchup as tragedy. We've basically been watching a trainwreck in slow motion since then, or maybe like a train wreck surrounded by 2 or 3 car wrecks and a couple normal onlookers. Idk where Taeshi plans to take it but theres no way of Mike and Lucy working in a way that isn't horrible for them both.

>>149535213
No, not after tomorrow's page. Because it proves, in no uncertain terms, that Taeshi will take a sledgehammer to the foundations of her story as convenient. There's just no point in following a narrative that won't keep its own facts straight. There are no stakes because they can change on a whim. There are no real struggles--and thus no drama--because hills that needed climbing are now small loose piles of sand, easily kicked down.

Mike and Lucy will absolutely be given a "satisfying" ending, in that the comic will insist that is how you should take it. But the execution will be so laughably dogshit, built upon retcon after contrivance, that no sane person can take it seriously.

>>149535299
It would be nice. I don't mind either, an ending can be well written whether it makes the characters happy or miserable, and it's rumored that Veronica is planning two versions. I'm curious to see both. Honestly for the characters it can't be any more miserable, tragic, or traumatic for them than what happens in various fanfictions.
I don't want to cry "Alejandro the school shooter" cause it seems like a stretch. But at the least the happy ending will likely be a somber and cathartic finalization of O.T.P ships at junior prom while the sad one is everyone falling apart, giving up on each other, disowning their friendships, and spending it alone. Then they come back for Senior Year Graduation staring at each other from the distance lamenting how they fell apart, imagining what could've been but will never happen and going their seperate ways. I'd likely tear up a bit like I did for Breaking Up.

>>149532564
>Lucy trying to be a better person got abandoned
I think her getting Augustus to hang with the senior squad is supposed to be her trying not to make the same mistakes with him that she did with Mike. Try not to make him feel like they have to be joined at the hip all the time. And as annoying as I find this trend, her meddling in her friends' lives is probably supposed to be her trying to be a better friend.

She arguably has made progress in some areas but her refusal to work on the big central problem, a refusal to ever be vulnerable, makes it look like she's barely moving. The whole thing with her resenting her friends because she had a bad dream doesn't help, keeping the spotlight on the most opaque part of her arc is a questionable decision. At this point I'm pretty sure Mike has merged with Alejandro in her nightmares and the resentment is because her friends haven't adequately stood up for her against Mike yet. She'll sleep like a baby when he's kicked out of the table.

>>149535213
I know how you feel. If you start from our current position and try to maneuver Mike and Lucy back together, things start feeling bleak real quick. Feels like realistically the best case scenario is a bittersweet sort of, "maybe they'll be together in the future, The End" type open ending. And as you said, a less idyllic ending seems more fitting now, but it makes everything feel like a waste of time honestly.

I dunno. Taeshi's really been hammering this "Mike and Lucy are exactly the same" point for a while now. I think if all you want is them together, there's a good chance that will happen. Just don't count on any of their issues really being resolved.

I like how people talk about this comic as if it has any form of consistency whatsoever

>>149535569
The fact that you won't answer my question strongly indicates that's how you really do feel. That somewhere along the line, for whatever reason, you embraced the idea that you cannot be wrong. And I do not understand how that is possible. How many times has life surprised you? How often have you expected Result X but got Result Y instead? Fundamentally, you are a human being that must work off a limited dataset and thus you CANNOT always be right.

And I think that is really your core problem. The source of all your woes.

It's not the social awkwardness or lack of experience. Oh yes, you have experience. Many unpleasant ones, from what I can tell. No, your problem is that you refuse to learn from them. As if you are convinced that, if you just keep trying reallllllllly hard and never give up, eventually you will be proven correct. People will pull a 180 out of the blue and behave exactly how you want them to.

Can you not see how delusional that is?

>>149535278
That kid deserved having his sandcastle shat on, let it go

>>149535717
don't waste your energy on autists anon, you are not gonna get through them

>>149535667
For the most part it does, just a handful of logical errors here and there as well as personality inconsistencies. Like Mike not seeing Lucy at the tree sooner, his fast New Year speech, but many can easily be chalked up to personality alteration and regression, like David trading the Paisy O.T.P for Pames in Date Night. It's implied that the characters may be autistic or bipolar, or have rationales, quirks, and compulsions we may be unfamiliar with. I know it's vague but it can explain some scenes. But it becomes a narrative issue when it's abundantly unclear as to who acts like what and why.

>>149535824
Anon, literally every character in this author-forsaken comic acts as if they suffer from a bipolar disorder.
The author wields them as puppets who take on whatever role she came up with just that moment.

>>149535873
Everything I've seen about Almultimavenger suggests that he's willfully delusional. That if he wants to believe something, he will. You can explain why he's wrong to his face and his most open-minded answer will boil down to, "that's an interesting perspective, but I think that I'm right."

>>149532674
Me.

>come here for the horny edits
>no horny edit
bcbgeneral really fell off..

>>149536060
We're too busy with feelings of baffled disgust toward Taeshi's latest crime against writing.

>>149535512
It isn't exactly what I signed up for when I first started reading many years ago, but I guess it is what it is. Might as well keep reading it at this point...
In retrospect, the name of the comic should've clued me in, but it's mostly just bitterness at this point I'll tell you what.

>>149535534
>There are no stakes because they can change on a whim
Yeah I agree, one of the things I really dislike about this comic is how everything has so little consistency; everything changes on a whim, even if they'd make absolutely no sense realistically speaking: characters do and say shit any person their age would never ever do or say. Mike is the main culprit regarding this.

>>149535603
My main problem is that, while I'd love a happy-ish ending, I don't see how one could happen realistically at all at this point, which leads to the conclusion that it'll all end either poorly for them, or at most the way you said, with an open-to-interpretation sort of ending. In any case, it'll be frustrating to read one way or another.

>>149535873
I feel like it's particularly evident with Lucy and Mike, always felt that the former likely has I.E.D if not bipolarism. Maybe Mike has it, developed it, or it's simply non-clinical anger resulting from personal grievences with his friends.

>>149536369
To be fair resolving a social or verbal conflict is easier said than done due to the various different perspectives and subjective personal experiences that come into play. Someone can shout "Sit down and talk it out" and though it could breed more fire instead of putting it out, it's a first step to resolution. I forsee many more chapters of alienation and argument till someone gets so mentally broken by their broken friendships (maybe Lucy or Mike, or more likely a third party observer like Paulo or Daisy) taking the initiative to at least try patching things up. A physical third party threat like Alejandro would be more effective with quicker resolution. What the characters are going through can easily be put aside in the face of a violent physical enemy, they'll likely fight for each other with a foundation of empathy. If not some random school bully or rival, then it'll be Alejandro.

>>149530293
I can't fucking wait. The lunacy of that prognosticator has infected me, spread through me, and now I sit with a tension in me to be released by the grand finale, the public execution of sanity.

>>149535780
As an autist, I resent being conflated with this kind of bullshit.

>>149536369
I maintain that LucyXMike was dead in the water since before even December. A love can survive hate and betrayal, but not the kind of cold, apathetic disdain Mike had developed. And after Lucy's suicide attempt, there's just no good way to fix it. The absolute best case scenario after that point was Mike and Lucy telling each other "I'm sorry for everything, especially hurting you. But I think we're bad for each other, and need to keep our distance."

Anything more intimate that that would just be toxic. Can you imagine being in a relationship with someone who could legitimately pull the "I tried to kill myself because of you" card? Or someone who could unironically say "Hey, remember how you emotionally and physically abused me when we were kids?"

>>149535603
>I think her getting Augustus to hang with the senior squad is supposed to be her trying not to make the same mistakes with him that she did with Mike
I'm torn between this and that Lucy is fooling herself into thinking as much when her real reason is that Augustus refuses to give her the kind of boy love she wants. She's just so fucking selfish most of the time that it's really, really hard to take her random bouts of altruism at face value. I know that Taeshi has thrown consistency out the window so that viewpoint is without merit, but damnit that's the only way to pretend that Lucy is still a serious character.

>her refusal to work on the big central problem, a refusal to ever be vulnerable, makes it look like she's barely moving
At least that much remains in-character, if only by sheer accident. Lucy might as well be defined by avoidance behavior. If given the choice, she will plant her heels in the ground and refuse to change in any truly substantial way. She's only ever evolved as a character when shoved out of her comfort zone by outside circumstances.

>the resentment is because her friends haven't adequately stood up for her against Mike yet
How much more could this stupid white cat ask for? Paulo volunteered to kick Mike from the table, Sue openly shittalked him to Lucy's face, and Daisy abandoned him during Halloween. David has never been on Mike's side and should not even count to begin with. Abbey's gone and Amaya is a prop.

(cont.)

>>149536959
(cont.)

>Taeshi's really been hammering this "Mike and Lucy are exactly the same" point for a while now. I think if all you want is them together, there's a good chance that will happen. Just don't count on any of their issues really being resolved.
See, by inventing a new issue wholesale and making it the most pressing one because she said it is now shut up, every real issue can be neatly swept under the rug. Please ignore the plumes of dust and the fact that she missed the rug completely.

I think the only way to save Mike x Lucy is
>Mike finally gives the fuck up and accepts his role as the story's villain which breaks his shackles and frees his spine
>Sandy leaves the picture "for good"
>Lucy makes her move after five seconds of playing hard to get because Sandy is literally the one thing she cares about for some stupid reason
>Mike bluntly tells her she's nuts because obviously the problem was always him not Sandy so do herself a favor and stay away
>uh oh pottery Lucy knows how this feels urrrgh empathy hurrrrrts
>Worst Cat has to finally get her hands dirty trying to fix things instead of sitting back on her fuzzy white ass and pretending everything will work out on its own
>rebuilding bridges means opening up to others for real instead of being such an ice queen turbo bitch
>proves to herself she's not a trash person instead of trying to deny it
>Lucy evolving in real time makes it hard for Mike to keep his heart good and dead
>Formerly Worst Cat brings him back to his old self and into the fold
>wuh oh Sandy's back for the Final Social Battle
>Mike tells her to fuck off thus Lucy can finally stop letting her live in her head rent free
>they live maybe sorta happily ever after

>>149535213
I have a feeling that bcb is going to last forever until something happens to taeshi or suitcase.
btw, does anyone knows about the state of the discord? i got banned years ago and i just curious about how the things are going there.

>>149536972
>by inventing a new issue wholesale and making it the most pressing one because she said it is now shut up, every real issue can be neatly swept under the rug
reminds me of gunnerkrigg

>>149536837
>Anything more intimate that that would just be toxic
Your examples assume a willingness to pull out those cards. If Lucy changed her ways, it's hard to imagine Mike actually holding that over her head for the rest of their lives. Now when it comes to Lucy...well, there's a lot of work to be done before she can get together with anyone. Apparently the suicide attempt no longer factors into her calculus, given Another Flame, so there's that.

>>149536544
Could work as a premise for making amends, but knowing this comic, even if something major like that did happen, it'd somehow go back to square one as usual.

>>149536837
>Anything more intimate that that would just be toxic
True... realistically speaking, such a couple would probably hold a grudge against each other, and always bring up stuff from the past. Imagine them having kids, and them having to listen to their parents fighting all the time. Not great.

>>149536991
Yeah. Unless Taeshi has another idea for a comic and it somehow ends up becoming much more successful than BCB, I can see her doing it for as long as she physically can.

>>149537120
>Unless Taeshi has another idea for a comic and it somehow ends up becoming much more successful than BCB, I can see her doing it for as long as she physically can
Let's be real. Her whole "I plan to end the comic [here] but miiiiight continue it into college, you never know lol" bit is a load of crap. Unless Taeshi can badger Suitcase into giving her a baby, she's doing BCB for the rest of her life. A different comic is not possible because she is no longer capable of attracting a new fanbase. BCB's community is too dependent on extant momentum.

>>149527718
Did ELIZABETH just doxx her real name? Agent whatcha doin there cmon man not cool

>>149537422
Put your name back on you retarded indian faggot

>>149536837
>the lunacy of that prognosticator
It is a curious thing, is it not? To feel your mind break and come to desire the delight of watching the same happen to another. The worst of the madness has passed me, yet I still find a part of me regrets revealing what is to come, for preparing your psyches ere the great blow was landed. To witness you go into this great shattering unwarned would have been quite the sight.

>>149537492
I like that you told us. We'll have two threads full of anger and disbelief instead of one that rapidly hits autosage. Besides, I want to hear in detail how the community proper takes it.

>>149537120
Ah, yeah that would be pretty anticlimactic of the characters to just not change at all by the finale.
>>149537422
Yeah, and for the record her name is public on Facebook and Linkedin which is obviously how I even knew it. I know everyone has their own comfort level though so I changed my usual habit of addressing people by their first names unless they didn't mind. Like, literally the definition of doxxing is to reveal sensitive *privately shared* information. Everyone can have a preference on what to be known by but their digital footprint is their responsibility, this is like getting mad at someone for promoting or recommending any author, artist, director, or publically viewable creator and is beyond petty.

>>149537622
>so I changed my usual habit of addressing people by their first names unless they didn't mind
How many people blocked you before that finally happened?

>>149536837
Mike and Lucy patching up their friendship is plausable, but the actual trust it would take for a healthy relationship would hinge on Lucy promising to seek psychiatric or therapeutic aid and drop her clinginess and obsession for Mike's validation. Unless they're open to polyamory, which I doubt given their upbringing and histories of envy, Mike and Sandy would have to break up for this to happen.

>>149537674
>Unless they're open to polyamory
What is with you and polyamory? That shit never works out well in the long run.

>>149537461
Oh no someone used the real name one time, they must be the multi avenger indian guy! popipopi

>>149537109
Even if they both matured and got over their respective neuroses, I don't think they'd be good for each other. Maybe I'm just a cynic or a bad person, but I can't imagine a relationship where you never get into a heated argument, and neither ever says something hurtful in a moment of stress and spite. In a good relationship those moments are rare, you restrain yourselves, and because you're usually open, honest, loving, and supportive with each other, you both know they didn't mean it. When the moment passes and the red fades from both of your eyes, apologies are made and forgiveness is given.

But with Mike and Lucy's baggage and bad habits with each other, I don't believe that moment would just be rare and passing. I think from that initial point of tension, it would fester and metastasize, corroding their love and comfort until they start picking open old wounds and inflicting new ones. Their relationship would enter long hibernations of cold resentment and attempts at manipulation, punctuated by hot flashes and desperate makeups. A mutual cycle of abuse, which we've already seen play out over the course of the whole comic (as well as long before, from flashbacks and exposition, and long after, in BCIs and AUs and such).

>>149537492
I once thought the mirthful, hateful gibbering of those who knew to be madness. Now I know it was them who truly saw the shape of things to come, and what's more, I understand their desperate joy in trying to share their terrible revelation with others.

We can't be the only ones who know.

>>149537952
I wonder if any of the patrons will finally pick up on the fact that something is amiss.

>>149537703
It depends on the story but I just enjoy polyamory ships, depends on the depth of the character interactions and I feel a ton of it for this one.

>>149535603
>At this point I'm pretty sure Mike has merged with Alejandro in her nightmares and the resentment is because her friends haven't adequately stood up for her against Mike yet.


Paulo was deadass about to do this when they were walking home. He was ready to toss Mike under the bus and the others would follow suit if she told him mike was the reason she jumped. But she suddenly wigged out because it looks like she got afraid of what could happen to Mike. If she wants him to pay, then she wants him to pay with her being involved as little as possible. Any direct stuff would be something she can't avoid responsibility wise.

>>149538844
>But she suddenly wigged out because it looks like she got afraid of what could happen to Mike.
The starfield appearing indicates its because she doesn't trust Paulo. The whole PTSD dream bit, you know. Pretty stupid but at least it doesn't randomly glaze Lucy.

I need more... tiff...

Taeshi had to censor David groping an unconshious Lucy. Dont forget it

>>149539242
>chauvinistic molester scrubs his twitter history and portrays himself as an ally of women
The only good comedy Taeshi puts out is the unintentional kind.

>>149538936
Making puppies with Tiff!

>>149524846
>>149539242
This mofo could kill a baby in cold blood and he'd still be forgiven and regarded as a silly goose by the comic.
David is a pain in the ass, and it's annoying how everything bends to his favor. Honestly, I used to be annoyed by Lucy, I used to be annoyed by Mike and Sandy, but now David is the one who's been giving me conniptions the most.

>>149539990
>but now David is the one who's been giving me conniptions the most.

Because he's been forced into the narrative since the end of the movie chapter. He's a character for short bursts that hasn't really been adjusted for the tone of everything else in the comic, so his shenanigans end up being even more annoying and unfunny than they used to.

>>149539707
Based David. Lucy didn't mind.

>>149539242
>Be Taeshi
>Mald over your community hating Mike so much it makes you leave your own server
>Get a chance to redo the first three volumes
>Instead of adding some sympathetic Mike chapters spend the entire omnibus retconning all the bad shit everyone else but Mike did
The omnibus was created solely to whitewash Paulo, Lucy and to a lesser extent David, and preserved all the bad stuff Mike did

>>149540063
>Mald over your community hating Mike so much it makes you leave your own server


I'm not sure what she expected when she made him a sperg gremlin for half a decade. And this was before EF.

If she was thinking she was being evenhanded with him, well she wasn't.

When will Mike finally start dating or casually fucking Sue

>>149540188
Sadly by the time Mike is given his spine back, Sue will already be lazily shipped with Amaya and thus off-limits. Though Mike trying to seduce Sue and make her waver would be fun to watch.

Mia should get more fanarts! This was a sketch to see if Komi coding was gonna work

>>149540188
It'll only happen in BCI's or fanfiction. Sorry.

>>149540188
As soon as the girls learn to share their would be harem king Mikie.
>>149540870
This is fine too.

>>149540188
never EVER

Mike wasted his prime years on Sandy and now all the opportunities have dried up. I think that's his arc right now actually.

They would be pretty cute together tho if Sue wasn't Lucy Simp Prime

>>149541582
The idea that someone who hasn't even graduated highschool has "wasted his prime years" is absurd, though. I get that it's a teen melodrama, and it's hard to have perspective on that kind of thing even when you're not a teenager, but still.

>>149541655
In real life yeah, but as a character he's basically going to cease to exist after high school or even junior year. He peaked in middle school, sad to say.

>>149541107
Gives me petscop vibes somehow

>>149541582
Why does Sue look up to Lucy so much anyway?
Also eh, I don't really see Sue x Mike happening at all to be honest, even without all the drama. They just don't seem to click that much.

>>149541899
>Why does Sue look up to Lucy so much anyway?


I feel like its part of her ego in play. Sue wants to break down the defensive walls Lucy has and get through to her. Making her one of the few people to do so and become her Best Friend. Sue likes being the mature and sensible one and what better way to reaffirm that then befriending Lucy

>>149541899
>don't really see Sue x Mike happening at all to be honest
It probably would have already happened with the nerd group if it did have anything to kindle it.
Also, this page seems like a trashfire, I'll have to catch up with the rest of the thread.

>>149541655
Mike is a soft hearted nice guy who is shorter than most of the girls he knows and aims to be an English Major after graduating, his life clearly peaked in middle school and it's all downhill from there

>>149541899
100% agree with >>149542622 but along with that also consider monday's page where Sue cracks under the pressure of everyone shitting on her play, and then see picrel and you kinda get a bigger picture of how much that little gesture from Lucy meant to her. I think Sue always aimed to break down Lucy's defensive walls and feel like she "earned" the friendship of someone so many gave up trying to-- so getting this kind of consideration must've absolutely tickled the reward-center of her brain and reinforced the simping to continue.

>>149527718
Oh good heavens.
>>149528040
>pic related

>>149528425
the r63 stuff always makes me laugh or concerned.
>>149544245
>Lucy reveals she lied to Sue to give her one good day.
She's probably being genuine there, but it's probably going to be retconned somehow to being that way with how everything's going.

>>149541107
>Mia should get more fanarts!
Agreed.
Mia looks cute with short hair and bangs.

>>149541107
>>149544533
Great art anons!

>>149544245
>>149544473
I think it's safe to say she lied, after all she does have partiality for Sue too.
>>149544653
While it is a personal preference I'm not the biggest fan of, what I'll call "anthro-swapping". I just prefer Mia being non-anthro by design since she's based off of a real life one.

>>149539881
Lol, Jordan has to be more creative, there's more than one way to make her a slave.
>>149538936
Cute art. I know it's likely never going to happen but a "nice Tiff" chapter would be nice.

>>149542622
>>149544245
You have a point, I think that could be it.

Man, how things were better back then during those chapters, compared to now...

>>149545084
>since she's based off of a real life one.
Aren't most of the main cast based on the author's pet cats she had as a teenager?

>>149545398
I sure haven't heard of that. Thought they were all like completely out of her imagination.

>>149544473
>I hate this pie.

>>149545636
Most here do I guess, or at least got tired of the flavor since the owner decided to change it

AMAYA :D

>>149539881
This is the second closest Taeshi has come to drawing for the BCBslaveAU these threads get into when sufficiently agitated and horny.

>>149539881
That's the most stupid hammer I've seen, the only thing that it's going to break is Jordan's wrist

It would be best to have a fresh thread for tomorrow's insanity.

>>149546957
James is the true Boykisser.
>>149547012
Yeah, hope it archives.

>>149547487
I knew it. I knew you stupid motherfucker--yes, you in particular--would not sage. You just couldn't do the absolute bare minimum, huh? It's like you zero in on every single way to be yet more insufferable, to make yourself that more of a burden to deal with. Why? Explain to me why you thought this was a good idea. Go on. The whole thread should hear it. Did you need the extra attention that badly? So everyone could see your latest two-line "contribution?" Or was it just pure careless stupidity?

>>149546533
Lucy should be property

>>149544533
Wonderful art, anon

>>149548218
Lucy belongs to Paulo
Mike is a cuck

>>149548800
Good riddens. Best boy Mike suffers enough already.

>>149545301
As far as Sue and Lucy goes, if anything, it's setting up for Lucy to just verbally destroy her after she gets too annoyed by sue's friendship gestures.

>>149550033
First off, learn how to sage. It's so easy that only the functionally retarded won't do it.

Second, I no longer believe Taeshi can set up plots. She is too fucking stupid and wrapped up in her own little world where the monumental obstacle of cause and effect has been safely rejected.

>>149548800
Based.
David and Paulo will claim Lucy and make Mike watch.

>>149551499
You are an arrogant asshole.

>>149520269 (OP)
New page.

> almost DYING
> almost DYING
> almost DYING

>>149553367
The thread was at PAGE FUCKING 10

YOU COULD HAVE LET IT DIE AND POSTED THIS IN A COMPLETELY FRESH THREAD

>>149553367
So is it just retconned now? Taeshi had explicitly stated that they didnt know what happened and it was pretty clear that they ar least didn't find out for a while in the comic.

>>149553367
All characters should feel guilty for not thinking of Lucy before they say anything or make any decision.

>>149553454
Yup, but like >>149526524 said, at the end of the day it is all pointless, everything just changes on a whim, there's no consistency in the story.

>>149553367
Well she has a point, the students would be more concerned about an attempted suicide. But Sue felt insecure that her attempt to bring Mike and Lucy together may have backfired, thus causing it through her play. In that aspect it's probably for the best that few associated the suicide attempt with the play, especially for Sue since she felt guilty about that. Also, yeah Lucy did almost die.
>>149553458
It's ironic cause they almost always think about Lucy especially at the expense of Mike.

>>149553367
Holy shit >>149521814 was right

When I read that the page was basically going to be "how dare you, Sue! You're not allowed to be upset that no one talked about your play because Lucy almost DIED OK?!?" I thought it was the most elaborate shitpost we've had since the Eternal Flame days. But then it turned out to be true

Spoil the next page, anon!

>>149553488
Oh it's far worse. She's gone from changing her mind on some non-canonical factoid to outright ignoring what actually happened inside the comic itself. This is a whole new level of fucked.

>>149553610
Us not getting a new thread is your fault.

STOP BUMPING THE FUCKING THREAD ALREADY

>>149553649
It's too late. The new page has been posted. Any new thread would be deleted.

I'm surrounded by idiots.

>>149553399
This garbage doesn’t deserve a new thread nor an endless general

>>149553367
Eternal reminder:
>>149521946
>>149532674

>>149553721
Shut the fuck up retard, if you don't like it then exercise some basic self control and don't click the thread.

>>149553367
>Better guilt trip my peer into not being jealous of David mind controlling everyone to suddenly like my shitty play by reminding her that Lucy tried to kill herself for our sins.
This is getting to levels where I'm perversely enjoying how bad this is.

>>149553897
BCB is just an exercise in masturbation at this point. There is no other purpose. The paypigs will keep forking over the cash while Taeshi rolls in her own shit, because they think it smells heavenly.

>>149553488
She likely forgot. Ideally she should change it to Madison acknowledging that Lucy was moving, never to be seen again, cause they didn't properly know Lucy attempted suicide till Mike disclosed it at the party.
>>149553938
While that's an odd way to put it I'm totally fine with the comic never ending.

>>149553367
They're THIS CLOSE to discovering Lucyspace, the anomaly rendering their daily lives into a cult of worship for white cat. Alas, but what about Lucy?

>>149553681
>I'm surrounded by idiots.
Yeah, by idiots who still read this comic and spend their day bitching about it in /co/ even when they haven't enjoyed it in years.

>>149553367
Why are they alone, where are all the other kids

>>149553399
Some retard was too dumb to sage so now we don't

>>149554021
>baby's first day on 4chan

>>149553980
Stop replying to me.

>>149554042
Retards, plural.

>>149553980
>She likely forgot.
My ass, it is much more likely she thinks the readers forgot so she can change it on a whim.

>>149553367
To me, my discord lurkers! Lemme know what they're sayin in there. We did finally get a patron pointing out that this is weird.

>>149553488
I could believe the school giving the class an announcement that Lucy would not continue attending and then the rumours of a suicide turning into a unspoken truth after someone found out, not very hard considering her dad is a local celebrity so people oughto recognize his family from photos or similar. Now, I'm not justifying the fact that Taeshi didn't set up any of it, like what the fuck man, this is retroactive storytelling to heights that make "I never wanted to see you suffer" like a little slip

>>149554098
>not very hard considering her dad is a local celebrity
Nobody in New Jersey is going to care about a local NASCAR driver.

>>149554158
I don't think Taeshi agrees considering her comic about dads hanging out was about everyone else sucking his dick

>>149554226
Taeshi is a moron who is allergic to using Google to check anything before she posts it.

>>149553399
>>149553681
Tbh, I don't think this page deserves its own thread. The faster all this bithcing ends, the better.

>>149554278
Oh I fucking disagree. This page is either Taeshi's laziness or arrogance made manifest. Many other who gives a damn nothingburger pages barely deserved their own thread. This isn't one of them.

>>149554066
That would be pretty lazy if that's the case.
>>149554098
That's plausible. But assuming a suicide took place from an unsubstantiated rumor is problematic. They're gossiping teens, doubt they'd care though. But the way Madison says it, it's like they should've known with certainty.
Not claiming perfection but this may be a preferable line:

>>149554009
Man, Lucy can have the fucking table. I hope that Mike does vanish from the comic once he's exiled. Then the comic will revolve around sucking Lucy's ass and that will be too boring to follow.

>>149554307
>pic
Why would anyone else at the school care? To them, Lucy would be just some rando who never talked with anyone else if she could help it.

>>149554297
yeah but we already kind of discussed it, nta but personally I already got out what I wanted to say

>>149554349
I want to discuss however the fuck the designated fans take this crap.

>>149554278
At the very least could we not devour the remaining post limit with meta comments about the thread itself? I want there to be some room to discuss next page's text summary.

Yes I know it's hypocritical to make my own meta comment. I won't be making any more.

>>149553618
the anon should not spoil too much in a row, Suitcase's balls are quivering already

>>149554415
He's probably too busy doing damage control and his shriveled pair of chickpeas can implode for all I care.

>>149554347
A few factors:
Curiosity and empathy: Everyone was naturally concerned that a prominent classmate was suddenly out of class and it carried juicy gossip for a few days.
Notority: Lucy is ill-tempered, which contributed to being a subject for juicy gossip which was now gone.
Attractiveness: The boys lusted for Lucy's looks, to the point that it's basically a meme for them (like David and Paulo) to disregard her personality for her looks, something that would also spark gossip and make the boys who lust for her naturally concerned, not inherently for her personality but that their eye candy is gone.
All of these would play apart. Concern, curiosity, hot bitchy girl being gone. Additionally many girls in the classes and grade would know who Lucy is and what she's known for through the males who oogle over her. Basically that Lucy would be enough of an influential presence to be talked about for one or a few days after her absense. But of course all they know is that she was moving out cause something bad happened.
>>149554388
Fair. It's also not wise of me to verbate. If the thread archives soon we've always got Monday.

>>149554415
Anon is too busy walking through the hidden temples of the underground jungles of Antarctica avoiding predators, looking for the next page, don't push him

>>149554497
>>149554415
>>149521814
He is a hero. There have been a few instances of people going an extra mile to leak the pages, I always appreciate it. There have been some examples of people actually redrawing the whole page to avoid Suit's censorship.

>>149553367
>that girl
Does Madison not know Lucy's name or is she just being passive aggressive

Where is this comic even going

>>149554789
Probably internalized it was "the girl I'm replacing"

>>149554789
>Madison
>not being a hostile jealous little bitch
It's like her entire thing.

The worst part of Sandy breaking up with Mike after their valentine's date blowing up is he won't even get a pity fuck

>>149555077
>s-sex
Just do everyone a favor and staple your dick shut. The actual worst thing is nothing will come of such a status quo shakeup because Taeshi has forgotten how drama works.

>>149555118
I'm glad you're happy with a mutilated dick but I think I'll pass, thanks for the suggestion.

>>149521814
>/r9k/ anon of all people reveals to us just how this comic is somehow about to get even more retarded than how it already is
Feels like pottery

>>149555077
He needs to stay pure for Lucy, anon. His whole appeal is that his nonexistent libido doesn't trigger her neurosis around sex.

>>149555296
His whole appeal to Lucy is being her trophy. Victory over Sandy, that's all that matters.

It's your friendly neighborhood Fannelman reporting that after extensively going over anything Lucy leaving Roseville related, it is extremely clear that the whole school did not in fact know, and at the very least, Sue definitely did not know somehow.

The list of people who I know for a fact knew is Lucy's family, the senior squad, the pets, and Augustus. It is possible Mike pieced it together, and also Blur found out because of the other pets.

Paulo is back and forth on whether he knew or not. In After You it's kinda clear he doesn't know, but in Double Down, when Lucy throws it in his face, he acts like he knew the entire time.

It is unclear on whether the rest of everyone knew or didn't know, but and suicide talk is absent from any discussion surrounding Lucy, save for Mike confronting Jordan. Mike also does not tell Sandy that his "friend" tried to kill herself, setting up Mike knowing the whole time and keeping it to himself. This could be the thing that gets him excommunicated, but then Paulo also knew about her jump.

So that means that the only ones at the table that were directly told were Mike, Paulo, and Sue, which might explain why they look shocked together if they find out Mike knew and told no one.

But all of that conflicts with what Madison said. So maybe Madison is lying for some weird reason, but if Sue didn't know if Lucy tried to kill herself, why is she not reacting appropriately here? So if Sue knew Lucy tried to kill herself before, why did she ask Lucy if anything else happened besides her moving away? This implies she doesn't know, or maybe she did know and wanted Lucy to tell her about it first before discussing it. I guess that is possible but that would be a weird thing for Sue to do. I dunno.

>>149555451
It's also possible none of them wanted to talk about the jump at all and never brought it up for some reason.

>>149555451
Thank you for your detailed report. The Taeshi and Suitcase early onset Alzheimer's arc is all but confirmed.

Is anyone in the discord complaining about the suicide being played off like everyone knew?

>>149555451
>Mike also does not tell Sandy that his "friend" tried to kill herself, setting up Mike knowing the whole time and keeping it to himself
Don't forget that he dreamed of Lucy bleeding out and blamed himself.

There is no point in which we the reader are shown without the shadow of a doubt that everyone knows about Lucy's suicide attempt, but we ARE shown reasons as to why they don't know.

Except Double Down throws a spanner in the works, because Paulo acts like hew knew the whole time. So maybe Taeshi changed her mind later and decided everyone knew. Except this happened right after she wrote It's All in the Mind.

>>149555785
So maybe Taeshi changed her mind later and decided everyone knew. Except this happened right after she wrote It's All in the Mind.
Why should that stop her? After all, her readers have proven time and time again they will do their damnedest to paper over her mistakes and accept whatever she writes with very little thought. That's basically permission to do whatever the hell she wants.

>>149555596
They are mildly confused, but nobody seems to care that much. The only interesting post was that according to picrel (ch. 95, p. 27) Madison shouldn't have even known about the suicide, otherwise she wouldn't have behaved like this. It even looks like she doesn't know that Lucy is Jordan's brother.
Aside from that, there's nothing interesting on discord. It actually feels quite dead.

>>149555854
I forgot to attach the picture.

>>149555854
Like idiot author like brainless fans, I guess. Dunno why I expected anything more. But yeah, I missed >>149555872 too. Taeshi's writing is such a fucking mess huh?

>>149553367
I had deja vu and thought you just posted Wednesday's page to troll.

>>149555854
Maybe they're afraid to sound critical? Idk what the vibes are like over there. Whether they noticed and stayed silent or haven't noticed, it's still disappointing how few people are talking about it. Not even just for drama purposes but like, we might get some kind of official justification on platforms other than this one.

The last straw to grasp at here is that there's going to be a flashback to everybody finding out that's just being really poorly telegraphed. Otherwise we have two authors that somehow both forgot what they were even writing.

>>149554799
Love this!

>>149556025
They did notice, but there was no strong reaction. Somebody tried to rationalize it, and somebody to read through the comic, but the duscussion quickly devolved into JessicaxLucy. So... yeah.

>>149554075
Discord had a pretty good discussion trying to figure out the whats going on here and how its possible for what madison says to jive with previous chapters. They're as confused as anyone here. Some honestly good suggestions on ways to make this make sense, no one wants to say "taeshi forgot her story" but they're not just ignoring it.

>>149556318
Generally, the less your audience has to go "Huh? What?", the better.

>>149553367
There's so many layers of interconnected incompetence to this. Let's summarize the key points, shall we?

1st, this retcon that everyone knew Lucy almost died the day after directly contradicts information previously given, renders most of the comic since Lucy's suicide nonsense, and makes every named character seem substantially dumber and less consistent. It also cauterizes several avenues of potential development for the characters and the comic as a whole.

2nd, >>149521946 is right. Why are they even bringing up Lucy all of a sudden? Even without it being a retcon, "hey, don't feel bad about your play, remember, your friend tried to kill themselves" is fucking bizarro dialogue. The framing of all this feels like a chick tract, where now that Sue and Madison have been redeemed through their acceptance of Lucy's suicide, they're suddenly free of stress or hardship.

3rd, the entire set up to this is garbage, with Jessica blatantly gaslighting her friends, David coming in to gaslight everyone into accepting Jessica's gaslight, all with the apparent motive of indirectly bullying Sue, so that she can be reassured by bringing up Lucy's suicide. It's a rube goldberg machine plot where each step handwaves away the last step. I could go into the ineptitude of each individual step of the set up as a separate point, but I'd run out of space.

4th, NOT doing this was an incredibly easy way to move things forward. Just make it so Jordan told Rachel, Rachel told Jess and Paulo I guess, Jess told Madison, and now it finally comes around to Sue and by extension the rest of Lucy's class. Bing bang bam, Lucy is confronted with everyone knowing and either blows up or comes clean, Mike is out either because he's blamed or else because he's terrified that he WILL be once someone remembers he exists, Paulo either awkwardly pretends he didn't already know or else goes "wait, you guys didn't know?".

>>149555973
We need a continuation edit with today's page.
>>149556401
I think Madison was referring specifically to why Sue's play wasn't talked about enough at the time, as they discussed Lucy's disappearance more. Lucy is only relevant to the play since she's an actor in it forced to interact with Mike in hopes that Sue could reunite them.
Since Veronica's direction is clearly to make everyone hate Mike, maybe details of Mike influencing a suicide is what'll lead to it. But considering that Madison already knew that Lucy specifically tried to off herself, it's odd that Mike's closest friends would arbitrarily get mad at that right now instead of way earlier. Then again, David magically changed their perspective on Jessica's play in a single statement.

Finally, I'd like to note the incompetence of those who kept this thread bumped overnight. (You) all, but ESPECIALLY Almultimavenger specifically, are dumb assholes. I'm not usually a stickler for having a new thread for Friday's page. But in this case, where Anon went through trials and travails to bring forewarning of the madness to come, it would be nice to have the opportunity to fully unpack this stupidity, to really get into the details of how each narrative event and character is dumber for it.

But because of YOUR stupidity, Almultimavenger, we don't have that opportunity. Just couldn't help yourself from chiming in with your worthless, vapid, vacuous "commentary", could you? Or maybe you could, and simply chose not to. You are either a troll, or a brain-dead moronic motherfucker, and either way I and everyone else hate you and want you gone.

>>149556992
Why don't you make a tumblr post about it?
Just breathe man, the people who care enough already read the spoiler so today was just a confirmation, it's a filler arc so a lot of readers are also skipping, and you can just start a new thread after this one dies, take it easy, don't let the bad cat drama comic get the best of you

>>149557155
>pic
EXCELLENT content anon, right into my collection

Threadly reminder that Amaya has a big penis

>>149557155
>and you can just start a new thread after this one dies
You can't, actually. That's the entire issue. Once a page has been posted in one of these threads, trying to do so again in a new thread just gets that one deleted.

>>149557211
I wish they'd start deleting the first thread made for each page desu.

I hope those of you who hold doubts now know better than to question the veracity of the visions my questing acquires. I underwent a journey most harrowing and death-defying to acquire the next bit of foresight, and the psychological scars I bear from it shall forever mar my brain, already battered from the lunacy the last page brought upon me. But I shall say no more, for my complains mean naught in the light of what poor Lucy has gone through.

Monday's page is...eh nothing special. Jessica says lunch is nearly over, so she's gotta leave, then reminds Sue that Jess was the producer for her play (What exactly that means for a high school play is beyond me) and that she thinks Sue did a great job and is good at what she does. Sue and Amaya part company from Jess and Madison, and Sue says that while she feels a little embarrassed, she definitely feels much better and thanks Amaya for bringing that encounter about. She then gives Amaya a serial killer smile and orders her never to do that again.

>>149554497
I'm glad someone recognizes the shit I have to put up with to get these pages. Though I hesitate to return to the underground jungles of Antartica, as last time I was there I got very frisky with the Tribal Chief's daughters and I'm pretty sure he has a rock specially set aside for crushing my genitals.
>>149554635
I'm no hero, just an adventurer with a thirst for knowledge and a joy of spreading it.

>>149557812
> But I shall say no more, for my complains mean naught in the light of what poor Lucy has gone through

>>149557812
I can't believe how many ongoing plot threads are getting burnt short. This is like the exact opposite of intrigue.
>Jessica's friends find out she's a gaslighting psycho who thinks of them as dumb assholes. By the power of Jess and David combo gaslighting all is forgiven.
>No-one knows about the suicide attempt except Mike, and he feels super guilty. Actually everyone knows, they found out the day after.
>Sue is upset by the way that people she thinks of as close friends (Stacy, Lucy, Jessica) keep mocking her and her efforts. "Well now I feel guilty for acting like my problems were more important than Lucy's."
>Madison knows who Lucy is, and resents her since Jess and others keep treating her like store-brand Lucy. Nevermind.
I am shocked by the blatancy of the retcon, obviously, but I'm also just baffled by Taeshi's choice to write herself into an even tighter corner. Normally one retcons something to get OUT of an unsatisfying overly-stable status quo, not to get INTO one. The only way forwards is even MORE blatant retcons, sloppy talking-to-the-fourth-wall exposition, and characters making random nonsensical decisions.

>She then gives Amaya a serial killer smile and orders her never to do that again.
Oh well, at least on Monday we get to learn what Sue's safeword is.

>>149557812
>Sue and Amaya part company from Jess and Madison, and Sue says that while she feels a little embarrassed, she definitely feels much better and thanks Amaya for bringing that encounter about. She then gives Amaya a serial killer smile and orders her never to do that again.
Great, Taeshi's bringing back that Sue chapter she cut in a really shitty way

>>149559440
And now that I think of it: this means Taeshi has yet again inserted events out of their intended chronology. This chapter should be taking place BEFORE Third Wheel First-Degree Burn was meant to directly lead into the chapter after this one

>>149559725
Every single time she did that she said so in the page commentary of the first chapter. She didn't this time, so it doesn't take place in the past.

>>149559440
>More David in the pages to come
NO! NO. GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WITH THAT DUMB FUCK AT LEAST UNTIL THE FOCUS SHIFTED BACK TO MIKE GETTING KEKED.

>>149558606
I think she just finds all of this extraneous shit boring. Now Sandy/Mike/Lucyshit, that's what she's all about. Endlessly fascinating, that.

>>149559440
>Sue blushing profusely at seeing David
She really wants her future husband to acknowledge her skills, doesn't she

>>149559808
I said it SHOULD be taking place in the past, not that it is NOW. Taeshi's been scrambling chapter order for some reason in Volume 8, Fuel Economy-Featured Attraction was SUPPOSED to take place after Date Night but she jammed it after Burnt Bridges for some reason.

>>149559440
Bright side, James finally shows up. And if the pages keep matching so closely, David immediately says something so stupid that he's compelled to leave on his own.

>>149559725
>pic
It's noteworthy that Lucy initiates both here and in Eternal Flame. I'm not sure how specifically but it feels worth pointing out.

>>149559906
But the extraneous shit getting burnt short right now is Sandy/Mike/Lucyshit. Lucy's attempt is directly connected to their love triangle and Mike's resulting guilt is a huge factor in him leaning so much more heavily on Sandy for support.

>>149559906
Great, so having thoroughly burnt and blown up Sandy/Mike/Lucy's basic dynamic, leaving naught but toxic fallout, ugly wasteland, and mutated husks of the characters in her wake, now she's burning and salting the still fertile parts of her story to make room for MORE fallout, wasteland, and mutants.

>>149560068
Taeshi doesn't give a fuck about the suicide outside of how it can glaze Lucy. It cannot be allowed to interfere with the stupid romance garbage.

>>149559883
>>149559440
I can't even understand these storyboads/sketches very well, but knowing there'll be more David fills me with bitterness...

>>149559906
I'd rather see any dynamic involving between those three.
>>149559923
YES!
>>149559966
They... were? That's a weird ass chronology. But I suppose wouldn't contradict much.
>>149560068
I seriously just want to see and hear Sandy again, her being shown speaking to Mike and supporting him is critical to conveying how strong their relationship is, at least on her side of it.
>>149560288
"Stupid romance garbage" was kind of an incentive for Lucy though.
>>149561648
They are supposed to be quick and brief, drawn as a draft primarily for Veronica to understand, so she likely has unwritten dialogue in her head to juggle with. Also, more David=sweet.

>>149562622
Shut the fuck up creepshow, and get out of here. Go find some other place to shit up until you're told to fuck off.

Evidently we didn’t need a new thread, we haven’t even fully used up the one we had yet.

>>149562770
Anon, you're starting to sound ass blasted, stop letting it get to you

>>149562863
For real, and it's not like there won't be future ones. Plus unfortunately I've been using conversation to procrastinate so I'll have to commit to a schedule.

>>149563202
Oh you’re full of shit, we all know you don’t do anything productive you freak.

>>149558606
>>Madison knows who Lucy is, and resents her since Jess and others keep treating her like store-brand Lucy. Nevermind.
That one was kind of already resolved way back during Double Down.
You're still spot on about the rest, though.

>>149555872
Who is the fake paulo next to Mike (panel 1)?

>>149562863
The initial shock of reality being forcibly overwritten is fading and there is not much left to do but uncomfortably settle into the new truth. What else can be said?

>>149563662
I just don't get it, man. Retcons, rewrites, and deus ex machina are to be avoided as general rule of thumb, but they're understandable if you've written yourself into a corner and don't see any other way forwards. It's not ideal to move a plot along by changing a character's motivation, or introducing a new character, or bringing in some solution or problem not previously set up, or revealing that someone knew some critical piece of information all along. But I get it, I've dabbled: a story can have a lot of moving parts, and it's difficult to keep it all running smoothly without greasing the wheels a little from time to time. A deft writer can even make those little sleights-of-hand look seamless, natural, or intriguing in their own right.

But why would any writer choose to employ these methods of narrative intervention to so abruptly and inelegantly cut short the ongoing threads? If these various b-plots have to be wrapped up so the a-plot can get going again, then there's no reason to not let them grind to a halt naturally! Let Rachel and Jessica have their falling out! Allow Sue to resent being mocked, pathos is part of her appeal! If that's not satisfying enough, and you want less bitter and more sweet, then let these characters seek and receive comfort from other friends new and old who haven't fucked them over. Don't just have them go "I was wrong to be mad in the first place!" like they got a zap from their corrective neural chip.

>>149564417
And with regards to the a-plot, if dropping the hammer of Lucy's suicide attempt would break the story, then don't! Just let it stay a secret or a rumor or whatever! And conversely, if breaking the news of Lucy's suicide IS necessary somehow, then do so and let Mike take the blow. It's not going to make him any less popular with the audience, they already know! And if you need to soften the blow there's so many ways to do so:
>Have Lucy react to her friends blaming Mike by going "Don't attribute my actions to Mike! They're MINE! I am my own person, dammit, and I am in control! I'm not just some helpless doll he shoved off the roof, I climbed up there and jumped!"
>Do a little whataboutism by having Mike flip it around: "Why are you blaming me NOW? You knew I was mad at her, you knew what I'd said and done, and you knew why! I told you all. She bullied me for YEARS, and I didn't get sympathy or support like she got, but I never tried to kill myself. Why is it my fault she couldn't take what she gave!?"
>Let Lucy pull some heat away by lashing out: "I didn't tell you all because we're not friends! We've NEVER been friends, so stop pretending, you can't trick me! I don't CARE that you wanted me back, I don't CARE that you didn't know what happened, and I don't want your pity!"
>Pull on the heartstrings by emphasizing Mike's guilt: "You think I don't care? I did. I do! I felt like a monster for MONTHS! The last thing I said that night and the first thing I said when she came back was that I'm sorry!"

>>149564677
>>Have Lucy react to her friends blaming Mike by going "Don't attribute my actions to Mike! They're MINE! I am my own person, dammit, and I am in control! I'm not just some helpless doll he shoved off the roof, I climbed up there and jumped!"
>>Do a little whataboutism by having Mike flip it around: "Why are you blaming me NOW? You knew I was mad at her, you knew what I'd said and done, and you knew why! I told you all. She bullied me for YEARS, and I didn't get sympathy or support like she got, but I never tried to kill myself. Why is it my fault she couldn't take what she gave!?"
>Pull on the heartstrings by emphasizing Mike's guilt: "You think I don't care? I did. I do! I felt like a monster for MONTHS! The last thing I said that night and the first thing I said when she came back was that I'm sorry!"

I think these three all can be done together. Lucy telling them they arent friends (to paulo specifically) was already done badly

>>149564780
I think you'd need to space it out a little. If Mike does both of those back-to-back, it'd seem like he was grasping for excuses. But he could certainly have one initial reaction, then the other the next time someone confronts him about it.

But my point is that whatever the intended outcome of this is, whether Mike is to be ostracized, or mad, or pitiable, or whether Lucy forgives him or not, or if the suicide is supposed to just fade away so as to remove the biggest piece of baggage between them, there were easier and less convoluted ways to get there than rendering the last 11 years of the comic nonsense. There's no reason to do that.