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Anonymous No.149821148 >>149821628 >>149821659 >>149825003 >>149826113 >>149826784 >>149828498 >>149830331 >>149887443 >>149895464 >>149913821 >>149924247
Remember when this was on Netflix.
Anonymous No.149821628 >>149822914 >>149825595 >>149833659
>>149821148 (OP)
It's on YouTube for free.
https://youtu.be/dGERPeMDFT0?si=tZLSil8ZZtY9kMFM
Anonymous No.149821659 >>149821814 >>149826507 >>149850604
>>149821148 (OP)
Remember when transformers cartoons were actually good? Unlike the preschool shit which followed after prime ended
Anonymous No.149821814 >>149826507 >>149828398 >>149884914
>>149821659
Well to be fair there was the sequel series Robots in Disguise, which was disappointing from what I hear. Then Cyberverse, then came EarthSpark. So it was more of a case of a frog in a slowly boiling pot of water. Which is a shame in the end. At least we got Transformers One.
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Anonymous No.149822914 >>149822981
>>149821628
With enough time there's no reason why every show can't be on either youtube or archive.
Anonymous No.149822981
>>149822914
Absolutely. But the networks and other rights holders want to be greedy I guess.
Anonymous No.149823937
i'm starting to get plot device treasure hunting fatigue
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Anonymous No.149825003 >>149825996
>>149821148 (OP)
no but i remember the designs looking fucking awful when you had to transform them
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Anonymous No.149825595 >>149825980
>>149821628
recently rewatched, netflix HD video quality is even better than youtube. Shame the series got gut short and they had to rush last season
also In for Miko x Jack
Anonymous No.149825876 >>149896783
My beloved
My everything
My perfection
I shall never forget you to the end of my days
Anonymous No.149825980
>>149825595
>netflix HD video quality is even better than youtube.
Fair enough.
>Shame the series got cut short and they had to rush last season
It always seems to be the case unfortunately. Same goes for Transformers Animated, it was supposed to have a fourth season but was scrapped in favor of Prime. Also sucks that a good amount of characters were killed off due to budget cuts as well.
Anonymous No.149825996
>>149825003
Shit taste
Anonymous No.149826044 >>149826067 >>149826280 >>149828228 >>149831211 >>149902474
>energon
>dark energon
>synthetic energon
>tox-en
>red energon
are there any other energons i should know about
Anonymous No.149826067 >>149826213 >>149849551
>>149826044
We still haven't tried Raspberry Energon, Lady Energon, Tartar-Control Energon...
Anonymous No.149826113
>>149821148 (OP)
I do wonder what mainline Transformers show we'll get as a tie-in to a new Bay era if his movie is up next and not Cooley's.
If it was up to me, a "real" Prime continuation would be my vote but unlikely. There's been rumors of an Energon Universe show floating around though, it wouldn't shock me given the pull Kirkman has in Hollywood these days.
Anonymous No.149826213 >>149826314
>>149826067
>orange energon
>energon zero
>energon baja blast
>energon beverly
you know what bottom's up
Anonymous No.149826280
>>149826044
>sprite energon
>clearly energon
>dr energon
>mr energon
>energon ale
Anonymous No.149826314
>>149826213
AH! MANGO DRINK!
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Anonymous No.149826507 >>149826568 >>149827765 >>149828398
>>149821659
>>149821814
And yet RiD2015 did significantly better because kids actually liked it.
Anonymous No.149826568 >>149827765
>>149826507
Well RiD mostly did better because it was on a channel kids were watching at the time
Anonymous No.149826769 >>149827089
uoooohhhh starscream erotic!!! starscream waist and thighs.....erotic
Anonymous No.149826784
>>149821148 (OP)
I remember when it was on The Hub before the horse show.
Anonymous No.149827089 >>149827379
>>149826769
submissive and breedable
Anonymous No.149827173 >>149827192
IS THIS THE BEST TRANSFORMERS SERIES?
Anonymous No.149827192
>>149827173
Yes because my wife's in it, I'm really proud of her
Anonymous No.149827379 >>149827448
>>149827089
absolutely horrible fucking thing. i feel infernal lust towards him.
Anonymous No.149827448 >>149833857
>>149827379
anon... take it easy on screamer...........
Anonymous No.149827765 >>149827834 >>149831416 >>149833677
>>149826507
>>149826568
RiD2015 wasn't better liked as a show, and most zoomers who were young pre teen at the time prefer Prime, way more nostalgia for it

RiD2015 sold better, as in the toyline, a major part of TF this board is often blind to. The toys sold better because there were more, they were cheaper, more kiddy, gimmick based and made of cheap plastic so they could be sold cheap like everything else these days

Prime was the last "mainline" TF toyline that actually tried to maintain quality like everything before it did, but times change and inflation is a thing
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149827834
>>149827765
there is a big difference between trasnformers shows and toylines now, as many kids grow up without even having cable so it doesn't matter, probably spend more time on youtube than streaming services, and care less about toys

in the 90s, beast wars being a popular show was equated also to the toys being popular, both were good, but fandom with one usually went hand in hand with the other. today kids own as many cheap toys as they can just to throw at the wall before going back to roblox
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>>149826044
Pink energon
It makes you act like starscream
Anonymous No.149828398 >>149828472 >>149828709 >>149830938 >>149879002
>>149821814
>Well to be fair there was the sequel series Robots in Disguise, which was disappointing from what I hear.
Thats what i was referring to in my post you replied too
>>149826507
No they didnt, RID2015 was a massive failure for being horrible toddler shit
Anonymous No.149828472
>>149828398
Other than Beast Wars and Prime, RID wasn't that much less "mature" than anything else. The problem was it was too shounen/sentai, the crossover is there between anime fans/sentai fans and TF but it never translates to the mass appeal recognition, TF is too much rooted in like G.I. Joe/He Man and superhero type cartoon fandom in the places it's most popular, the US and UK

Animated is silly and kiddy but it's way higher praised
Anonymous No.149828498 >>149835326
>>149821148 (OP)
Yeah i remember watching this show on Netflix a lot as a kid, although the one thing I strictly remember was that it used to have both second and third season but for some reason Netflix just removed it? Till this day I never understood why
Anonymous No.149828709 >>149829943
>>149828398
>Gundam or Transformers?
>Gay Porn
So Brave Bang Bravern?
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>>149829120
cute couple
Anonymous No.149829539
Can I get the Mega?
Anonymous No.149829943 >>149830102 >>149834540
>>149828709
I really need to get around to seeing this, I've been looking for more mecha stuff with sentient mechs like Transformers.
Anonymous No.149830102 >>149830820
>>149829943
I really need to jerk off to prime universe arcee again
Anonymous No.149830331 >>149890950
>>149821148 (OP)
>Cool, macho design
>Not a Bumblebee repaint
>Didn't have midget anger
Waste of a neat character. But I kind of appreciate how the promo art misled us intentionally into believing that he would be a regular character.
Anonymous No.149830820
>>149830102
Nothing's stopping you, friend
Anonymous No.149830938 >>149831270
>>149828398
>No they didnt, RID2015 was a massive failure for being horrible toddler shit
We know for a fact it did well saleswise even if you didn't like it.
A similar thing happened where Armada, despite being disliked by the fandom, basically helped save the line after Beast Machines crashed it and RiD helped rebound a little
Anonymous No.149831211
>>149826044
There is energon that is close to someone's spark from the lost light series. Its the energon you share with someone you love or something like that. I forget what its called.
Anonymous No.149831270 >>149831416 >>149832095
>>149830938
Why do modern kids have such awful shit taste? Im sure no one actually liked the cartoon that aired
Anonymous No.149831416 >>149831837 >>149832095
>>149831270
Try reading >>149827765

Sales in TF = toys. Nobody is "buying" rid2015
Anonymous No.149831837 >>149832095 >>149832179 >>149833677
>>149831416
How well did the show do in ratings? Thats what i wanna see
Anonymous No.149832095 >>149832400
>>149831837
>Why do modern kids have such awful shit taste? Im sure no one actually liked the cartoon that aired
I remember hearing it did well and the show runners had to turn down more seasons. It didn't do well in Japan, but very few TF series do(Prime also never aired the last season over there)
>>149831416
>>149831270
One thing fanboys take for granted is that the RiD designs stand out on a a shelf. Everyone is very clearly delineated and easy for young kids to identify. Bright red car. Big green dinosaur.
Most of the TFP cast were somewhat desaturated or mundanely colored too.
Anonymous No.149832179 >>149832762
>>149831837
It was cancelled after 3 seasons, only a few more episodes than Prime had. It was always as destined to fail as a show because by that time (and since Animated) CN gave the worst possible timeslots to any show that wasn't their own production

But like I said, the toys were cheap and flashy and there were a lot of them, it was a very kid oriented toyline in the modern sense, IE much cheaper but more gimmicky and brightly colored than the "adult" stuff, it was around this time that distinction was truly made and like CHUG became the ONLY TF toys collectors talked about
Anonymous No.149832400 >>149832966
>>149832095
>I remember hearing it did well and the show runners had to turn down more seasons.
I genuinely hope that the zoomer brats who gave ratings to that insult of a sequel to prime suffered horribly and the fact that their were a shit ton of school shootings that decade chances are that a number of the RID2015 audience were casualties in them which makes me smile
>One thing fanboys take for granted is that the RiD designs stand out on a a shelf. Everyone is very clearly delineated and easy for young kids to identify. Bright red car. Big green dinosaur.
>I WANT SHITTY BLOCK LOOKING TOY BECAUSE IT GWEEN COLORED
Fucking shitting diaper tikes are fucking retarded
Anonymous No.149832762
>>149832179
2015 was the year CN started sabotaging themselves too, wasnt it?
Anonymous No.149832966
>>149832400
>OW the EDGE
Anonymous No.149833659
>>149821628
fpbp
Anonymous No.149833677 >>149833760
>>149831837
I think one of the dudes behind the show said Hasbro was cool with doing another season if they wanted to.
Through admittedly, the show being Bumblebee centric already probably assisted in that.
>>149827765
Prime is more popular with the demographic that is more loud online these days for these old franchises.
Right now, the big nostalgia is UT and Bay Trilogy, so RiD15 nostalgia is a way off.
Anonymous No.149833760 >>149833887 >>149834028
>>149833677
>Prime is more popular with the demographic that is more loud online these days for these old franchises.
>Right now, the big nostalgia is UT and Bay Trilogy, so RiD15 nostalgia is a way off.
For childhood nostalgia yes, like people looking back to when they were five and going "i remember that", but you gotta remember there is more shorthand nostalgia too, the like five-ten year old nostalgia, there are people who weren't 3-5, but 12-14 watching Prime and RID and probably underage posting on sites like this that are now in their 20s, and among them Prime is the more beloved series

I'm sure we'll eventually see SOME Rid2015 nostalgia from those who were actual little kids, but I doubt it will be much more than UT, RID 2001, etc, which all in all is pretty minimal compared to things that were much more popular like G1, Beast Wars, Animated, and Bayformers.....though still more popular than Beast Machines, the show almost nobody is nostalgic for
Anonymous No.149833857 >>149836325
>>149827448
but he's just so attractive! doesn't he deserve a little of the soft stuff....or maybe a bit of the rough stuff
Anonymous No.149833887 >>149834037
>>149833760
I think you're just looking in the wrong places, like the Bay movies (at least the first 3) have a big fanbase, but on reddit/tfw2005/etc. that part of the franchise is almost universally dispised. RiD15 fans aren't going to be in places where opinions on their are so negative.
Anonymous No.149834028 >>149834122
>>149833760
>I'm sure we'll eventually see SOME Rid2015 nostalgia from those who were actual little kids, but I doubt it will be much more than UT, RID 2001, etc, which all in all is pretty minimal compared to things that were much more popular like G1, Beast Wars, Animated, and Bayformers...
Don't be so quick to judge. I remember in the 2000's, even those of us who liked Beast Wars thought the prices on resale would never be that high and it'd perpetually be niche to Hasbro. There was a belief that we wouldn't see 90's toys raise in resale value since they were generally better preserved than 80's ones. Now it's carved it's own stake as part of the evergreen TF elements, and the retro toys have ballooned in resale price.
And keep in mind, the sales for everything post 2007 are at LEAST double what sales were from roughly 87-2006. It's a much bigger franchise now, there's bound to be people nostalgic for it. As important as BW was to the franchise, it's sales were likely only a fraction of what Animated or Prime made. And RiD did more than Prime.
Anonymous No.149834037
>>149833887
>RiD15 fans aren't going to be in places where opinions on their are so negative.
I mean it was probably the most hated recent TF show, to me it was inoffensive but weird, but most people actively hated it online, then you had
>Cyberverse, totally ignored
>Earthspark, nothing but culture war divisiveness to the point threads for it were banned here for a while since it only brought up LGBT convos, and will be memoryholed because of it
Anonymous No.149834122 >>149834356 >>149834369
>>149834028
Yeah I mean, I saw the exact moment Beast Wars toys started going up in price, it was also right around the time they started doing BW reissues and the Kingdom line.

However, 20-25 year nostalgia always does come around but it's only equal to how popular said thing was in the first place. Beast Wars was one of the most revered 90s action shows AND 90s toylines, RiD2015 was neither, it was just another middling, come and go TF show

As for toys, I genuinely do think those days are over. Only because that is exactly when the quality of toys sunk wayyyyy below collector level standards. BW toys are still good if you're a collector, show accuracy is off and the articulation is now dated but still decent, but the quality is actually better than modern CHUG toys, the plastic, paint, and molding is all better so those original toys in good condition still look better, TF Prime toys still hold up too, but everything after I don't ever see being coveted not because of the properties they're representing, but because it was when Hasbro made cartoon toys basically the equivalent of dollar store toys, and only put good engineering and good (for modern) quality into the CHUG toys
Anonymous No.149834356
>>149834122
In 25 years there’ll probably be nostalgia for when kids toys actually existed.
Anonymous No.149834369 >>149834592
>>149834122
it is interesting there was never a split between "kid transformers toys" and "REAL transformers toys" until this point. chug stuff existed, but its value was the nostalgia/update to old characters from the 80s who just had bricks, not that they were actually better quality than what the current show's toys were
Anonymous No.149834540
>>149829943
It's pretty funny, too bad it only had one season. Though I hear critique on /a/ about the mechs on Bravern being 3D animated. So take that for what you will.
Anonymous No.149834592 >>149834774
>>149834369
The reason is pretty simple, budget was declining after 2011 and took a steep dive in 2013, and designers had the option of trying to spread the budget over the entire line, downsizing, or making one line have a higher budget and one a lower one. Ultimately they figured they were better off keeping the Generation line budgeted and cutting from the kid’s line because they would eventually update those figures in 10-15 years anyway.
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Anonymous No.149834774 >>149834891
>>149834592
It's funny because right now we're at an odd section where the 00s era toys are still better than their updated toy lol, the animes didn't alter designs they just shoved the toy model on screen,bso there's no extra show accuracy like BW, the plastic quality and paint is worse, and so far they've fumbled the engineering with toys like Armada Megs, RiD Scourge, etc because they just don't have the quality to make the bulk work (more and you Scourges is technically a G2 mold anyway) and figures like Cybertron Sideways are just worse looking versions of the original
Anonymous No.149834891
>>149834774
>chug then
>wow i finally can get the toy of this character i always dreamed of since the original was so limited!

>chug now
>wellllll i missed out on this toy when it came out and buying the new version is cheaper than the original
Anonymous No.149835326 >>149841617
>>149828498
Beating myself up for not getting Netflix on my PS3 back when I got it.
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Anonymous No.149836325 >>149836531 >>149836632 >>149837513
>>149833857
well i suppose they do call him screamer for a reason.......
Anonymous No.149836531
>>149836325
Ew
Anonymous No.149836632 >>149836751 >>149839067
>>149836325
Cybertronian pussy got me acting unwise
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Anonymous No.149836751 >>149836836 >>149836856 >>149837513
>>149836632
why is this show so horny for robots
>optimus' back handlebars
>megatron's crotch/ass plate swaying as he walks
>zesty knock out and starscream
>gratuitous ass shots from even ratchet
Anonymous No.149836836
>>149836751
Who knew Ratchet has such a big caboose?
Anonymous No.149836856 >>149839067
>>149836751
I dunno man, but I wanna give a magnificent thanks to whoever thought a robot baddie's back should arch like this, they have impeccable taste
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Anonymous No.149837513 >>149837863
>>149836325
oouu

>>149836751
optimus's thighs are especially egregious as well

captcha: GYASS
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Anonymous No.149837863 >>149838627
>>149837513
not even soundwave was safe either
>when you see it
Anonymous No.149838627 >>149839864
>>149837863
quite the landing strip
Anonymous No.149839067 >>149839207 >>149852501
>>149836632
>>149836856
someone actually recreated Arcee's prime model for blender, completely from scratch.
and she's got some goodies as well.
Anonymous No.149839207 >>149839528 >>149839937
>>149839067
I've seen
And I'm mad as hell barely anybody's done stuff with her! It's a near-perfect model and she's made for sex to begin with. Barely any sizeplay stuff when this model's out in the wild? Come the fuck on, people!
Can't say I care at all for the boob version of the model though, she's perfect for fuckin as is to me.
Anonymous No.149839528 >>149839772 >>149853040
>>149839207
>Can't say I care at all for the boob version of the model though, she's perfect for fuckin as is to me.
Indeed. A bit too big for my tastes, though they are well made.
>sizeplay
I'd need a decent male model that isn't just a generic dude.
https://files.catbox.moe/vtgbnx.png
Anonymous No.149839592
Beast Wars is better
Anonymous No.149839772 >>149840103
>>149839528
Oh hell yeah anon, gooood shit
Anonymous No.149839864 >>149840027
>>149838627
i never even realized that until you pointed it out lol
Anonymous No.149839937 >>149840062 >>149840103
>>149839207
>Barely any sizeplay stuff when this model's out in the wild?
That's what happens when you raise a community to be filled to the brim with yuriniggers and fujopedos
Anonymous No.149840027 >>149840301
>>149839864
unfair how sexy he looks
Anonymous No.149840062 >>149893098
>>149839937
>new Bayformers
>reboot
>he remembers to objectify the robot women this time and not just kill them off in one movie
>problem solved
Inshallah, rid me of these devils
Anonymous No.149840103 >>149840162
>>149839772
>>149839937
My one gripe is her snatch isn't the best looking, and is also way too high in polycount for shapekeying. The one in that image was taken off of a medabot model.
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>>149840103
>I bought a property in Egypt
>and wot they do for ya
>is theyyyy give you the property
Anonymous No.149840301 >>149840404
>>149840027
i'm leaning into knock out more but that's mainly because i have an overwhelming desire to race him desu
Anonymous No.149840404 >>149840903
>>149840301
they DID make him very sexy on purpose.

i believe he would be more amenable to racing than starscream. just nothing over rough terrain, it would scratch his paint.

knock out doesn't inspire feelings of violence of the same intensity as starscream does for me. something about his desperation is highly appealing
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Anonymous No.149840419 >>149840857 >>149841118 >>149841140
I sat behind a couple of members from the Prime cartoon staff during SDCC and heard them talking about how the show was being cancelled because the toys weren't moving many months before the official cancellation was announced and I recall this one woman who was a write on it giving me a dirty look of "stop listening in creep" when I said "that's a shame".
It made me feel bad but then that woman wrote a comic that made Blast Off gay so now I'm kinda glad she was annoyed at me.
Anonymous No.149840857
>>149840419
fuck them
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Anonymous No.149840903 >>149841044 >>149841589
>>149840404
kind of wish we got more episodes with knock out racing desu
even megatron knows he likes to go on his little racing excursions but this is the only episode where we see him actually doing it and he doesn't even finish the race
then again the human interaction outside of the main cast in general is pretty lacking in this show and it's kinda weird knock out's the only one we see who does it
Anonymous No.149841044 >>149841335
>>149840903
>hen again the human interaction outside of the main cast in general is pretty lacking in this show and it's kinda weird knock out's the only one we see who does it
I wonder if that simply had to do with budget and modelling human characters for the bots to interact with? It's been a while since I watched but I remember most of the environments being seemingly barren of human life. Even in the town you'd see so few people out in the open.
Anonymous No.149841118
>>149840419
Conflicted because I love Prime but the latter is lame as hell so screw her I guess
Anonymous No.149841140
>>149840419
>And they all clapped
Anonymous No.149841335 >>149841589
>>149841044
half of it's probably budget and the other half's probably them using the fact they live in bumfuck town nevada in which nobody lives there
still a pretty lame excuse though cause it couldn't possibly be that barren and empty in the downtown areas
Anonymous No.149841589 >>149841810
>>149841335
i'd say budget is a factor. it's easier to draw random humans rather than fully model them.

>>149840903
how much human interaction would be ideal? i guess humans would only be necessary if the show took place on modern-day earth. stuff like BW and one didn't need humans.

then again, it seems to grate on a lot of viewers when there's too much human interaction. what's the ideal ratio?
Anonymous No.149841617
>>149835326
>not taking advantage of the golden age of piracy that was the 2000's-2012
NGMI
Anonymous No.149841715
>>149840140
their friendship is so cute. i like when the bold older guy is smaller than the other. gosh i want to watch this series again.
Anonymous No.149841810 >>149842172
>>149841589
at the very least you'd think there would be some civilian casualties or people there at the wrong time who end up seeing the transformers
sure the autobots care about the whole robots in disguise thing but the decepticons likely don't and all the plot devices they're treasure hunting for are conveniently away from civilization
it falls into the same pit that armada fell into by having the show take place in a modern world but every fight happens in some remote area and you don't have to worry about people seeing them
i'm only 2/3rds into season 2 and all the non-main character or MECH interaction we saw with the robots is the tunnel guy in new york, the street racers, and some army guys mistaking nemesis prime for optimus
meanwhile.....
>G1
decepticons regularly terrorize power plants and steal energy and all their other antics
>headmasters
same thing as G1
>super god masterforce and victory
also same as G1 but later we get millions dead levels of destruction on humans because of devil Z and deathsaurus
>armada
none except for some kids and a journo woman
Anonymous No.149842172
>>149841810
i like how in TFA they kind of circumvent it by having it in the near future, where robots are commonplace so large, sentient robots are more like local celebrities rather than frightening aliens. as for the destruction and conflict, they solve this issue by having the show set in detroit
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Anonymous No.149843377 >>149872140
Just here to remind everyone that AUTOBOTS ARE FOREVER and decepticons are shit
Anonymous No.149843934 >>149844093
Anonymous No.149844093 >>149844297 >>149844500
>>149843934
>strokes starscream's ego by calling him lord and helping him out with his plan to overthrow megatron by pulling the life support plug on him
i wonder if he was really intent on taking power with starscream or just playing along and egging him on for kicks
funny how nothing happened to him for scheming with starscream and he basically gets away with it scott free while
>starscream gets beaten so bad he loses an arm and goes on life support for a while
>when arachnid suggested ditching megatron he sent breakdown and dreadwing to kill her in some dummy mission
maybe nobody caught wind of him
Anonymous No.149844297
>>149844093
We'll never truly know but I think about what he said near the end. He's playing for the winning team. Ultimately he'll do whatever he needs to ensure self preservation. So if siding with Starscream would have truly paid off. I think he could have stuck alongside him. But I'm sure he'd keep one eye open, knowing Starscreams history of treachery. If Breakdown was still around maybe Knockout could have an extra hand in need.
Anonymous No.149844374 >>149845929 >>149850535
Cybertronian lips...
Anonymous No.149844500
>>149844093
a key part of starscream's appeal is that he's really funny.
maybe knockout just wanted a laugh. the jessica rabbit defense
Anonymous No.149845929 >>149853457
>>149844374
I wanna kiss em
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der cybercoomer has arrived here
Anonymous No.149849551 >>149855299
>>149826067
>Raspberry Energon
>Lady Energon.
>Tartar-Control Energon
You think Mcadams did different flavours of energon back on Cybertron?
Do you think Lady Energon does what you think it does?
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>>149849556
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>>149844374
ew
Anonymous No.149850604 >>149850797
>>149821659
The preschool shows are for millennial parents to go "oh shit I remember transformers" and put their kid in front of it
Anonymous No.149850797
>>149850604
most millennials would be Beast Wars kids so they failed at marketing to them in that regard
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Anyone got a good download?Looked through the archive and all i cow find was the Prime Wars Trilogy.
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Anonymous No.149852501 >>149853040
>>149839067
>tfw it gets no porn
Anonymous No.149853040
>>149852501
ey buddy, >>149839528
Anonymous No.149853457 >>149878189 >>149881951 >>149887846
>>149845929
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I made an edit for my goat a while ago

https://files.catbox.moe/uxr1u7.mp4
Anonymous No.149855299
>>149849551
what
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Anonymous No.149858837 >>149859136 >>149859471
I was scrolling and saw the thumbnail briefly and thought it was Bionicle 2.
It would be an exaggeration to say that my day is ruined, but I am disappointed.
Anonymous No.149859136 >>149859211 >>149859471 >>149862477
>>149858837
I wonder, why Lego has never brought back Bionicle?
Anonymous No.149859211 >>149859471 >>149862477
>>149859136
They tried one time, I think.
Anonymous No.149859471 >>149859776 >>149860475
>>149858837
>>149859136
>>149859211
Transformers
>can transform
>can be cool vehicles, animals, mountain dew machines, even humans
>cool energy weapons
>can fly
>giant
bonckles
>no guns
>no driver’s license
Anonymous No.149859776 >>149860418
>>149859471
Bonkle fags will hate this but another issue is that their names are all super unmemorable ethnic jumbles of letters.
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Anonymous No.149860418
>>149859776
I can remember the ones I cared about.
Anonymous No.149860475 >>149860628
>>149859471
>bonckles
>>no guns
You're wrong and gay.
Anonymous No.149860628 >>149861984
>>149860475
a transfromer would beat up a bonkle EZ
Anonymous No.149861984
>>149860628
Right
Anonymous No.149862477
>>149859136
>>149859211
yeah that revival was half assed but there clearly would be a demand for a better version.
Anonymous No.149862498 >>149863126 >>149868528
I'm going through it for the first time. I avoided it while it was airing because I didn't care for the art direction or animation, but it's also the last TF show I can remember generating any real discussion here. I'm up and down on it, but I do think it has one of the best takes on Starscream. Last episode I watched was the Terrorcon episode, which I thought was shockingly good for show that I generally find mid to okay. Helps that Starscream and Knock Out are the best cons I guess.
Anonymous No.149863126
>>149862498
Thirst is such a funny ass episode.
Anonymous No.149864201 >>149866597
>>149857302
that butt is a goddamn tease
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Anonymous No.149866590
Me on the bottom
Anonymous No.149866597 >>149869073
>>149864201
Gyatt! Why does Knockout have to arch his back like that?
Anonymous No.149866647 >>149866955
Should I get the Starqueen figure? The coomer in me wants to but I should be saving money.
Anonymous No.149866955
>>149866647
Don’t give into temptation. That money could be used elsewhere. If you can’t afford to splurge then don’t.
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Anonymous No.149868528
>>149862498
>I avoided it while it was airing because I didn't care for the art direction or animation
same, but then it became sort of like a guilty pleasure I’d try to keep on the down low. I also remember thinking the plot was schizophrenic nonsense and shitting on it for that with my friends at the time.
I rewatched it for the first time a couple months ago too and ended up really enjoying it for what it was despite all of its flaws. the aesthetic grew on me and I can appreciate how ambitious of a project it was at least.
Anonymous No.149869073 >>149869097
>>149866597
it's like he knows people want a piece of him and he's actively tempting them to come get some
Anonymous No.149869097 >>149869277
>>149869073
I thought he's revolted at the idea of "interfacing"?
Anonymous No.149869277
>>149869097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEAUJy6f1E4
he's just humanphobic :((((
Anonymous No.149869881
>>149865020
icon
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Anonymous No.149871268
wyd in this situation
Anonymous No.149872140 >>149876765
>>149843377
t. autobot
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Anonymous No.149874706 >>149874857
An anon drew this a while ago and I have no idea if they're still around but I wanna thank them
Anonymous No.149874857 >>149875402 >>149875483
>>149874706
I'm always in TF threads. Sadly less time to draw on my own time, otherwise I'd be flooding these threads with art requests. I'm glad you like it anon, I wish I could give her more polish
Anonymous No.149875402
>>149874857
Thank you regardless, anon
Anybody who appreciates my wife is a friend of mine
Anonymous No.149875483 >>149875529
>>149874857
Think you could do Knockout?
Anonymous No.149875529 >>149875654 >>149875711 >>149875985
>>149875483
I probably won't have time this thread, but if you have an idea feel free to shoot though. Even if I can't do it now I'll pop up in another thread
I'm also kinda weird in that I really like male robot with human women, more than fembots with humans like many here do.
Anonymous No.149875654 >>149876238
>>149875529
Nothing in particular. Just Knockout in a flashy pose trying to show off his finish. Something akin to pic related? Maybe he's trying to get Starscream and Breakdowns attention?Sorry if that's too vague a prompt. But I appreciate you lending an ear.
Anonymous No.149875711 >>149876238
>>149875529
For the record you're still great with the fembot that matters to me most anon
Anonymous No.149875985 >>149876238
>>149875529
>i like male robots with human women
b-b-b-based??

may i please have. one starscream with one human female. maybe she's held captive by him...or maybe he's pathetic and sucks. maybe both. thank you
Anonymous No.149876238 >>149876313 >>149876318
>>149875654
That does sound cool, maybe another time, I must admit Prime designs can be a bit trickier for me since I'm so used to drawing more traditional mecha . but Knockout is a really gorgeous design
>>149875711
thank you, anon!
>>149875985
https://files.catbox.moe/5soxt2.png
ok this one got me. NSFW warning, no nips or much of vag, but not something you want to open at work
Maybe not quite as pathetic as you may want though!
Anonymous No.149876313
>>149876238
>That does sound cool, maybe another time, I must admit Prime designs can be a bit trickier for me since I'm so used to drawing more traditional mecha . but Knockout is a really gorgeous design
Thank you very much for hearing me out! If I could add just one more idea to the prompt. Perhaps have light bounce on his headlight right next to where the hand would be posed? Thanks again.
Anonymous No.149876318 >>149876453 >>149878492
>>149876238
let's fucking goooo

thank you anon! prime starscream is special because i feel he can be appealing as both menacing and a total flop. you captured the former excellently

if you want anything drawn, i can try my hand at the prime bots myself
Anonymous No.149876453 >>149880472
>>149876318
Glad you liked it! Honestly, dealers choice if you want to draw anything, I'd be cool with anything really. Whatever you like I'll probably like too, especially with starscream, maybe with his new pet? It might be fun to just have some original art in this thread, doesn't have to be anything too polished.
Anonymous No.149876765 >>149877138
>>149872140
I wish I was
Anonymous No.149877138
>>149876765
oh
Anonymous No.149878173 >>149878877
It's my first date, kinda nervous anons
Anonymous No.149878189 >>149879676
>>149853457
this image explains why i hate the chinese
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Anonymous No.149878492 >>149880472
>>149876318
Just the fellas? Orrrrrrrrr...
Anonymous No.149878877
>>149878173
Too sweet for her
Anonymous No.149879002 >>149879049 >>149880852 >>149883209 >>149896806
>>149828398
>RID2015 was a massive failure for being horrible toddler shit

Prime was a fucking disaster for Hasbro. Prime was meant to be the cornerstone for their planned 'universe', but Roberto Orochi and Alex Kurtzman just wanted to make "bay films the series" and completely fucked up Hasbro's plans for their connected multiverse. High Moon Studios' War For Cybertron game was intended to be a prequel to Prime, however the showrunners instead claimed it wasn't canon to the show and actively wrote stories to contradict the events of the game (even then High Moon attempted to fix things with Fall of Cybertron, but again was snubbed) but then they made the ludicrous claim that Rescue Bots was canon to Prime (even though Rescue Bots was not intended to be connected to Prime).

The centerpiece of this new 'universe' Hasbro had been planning was a book called the 'Binder of Revelation'. It was a lore book that had every piece of relevant lore planned for this continuity that cost 250 grand to produce. It's purpose was to help the creators of the series with projects. The Prime Showrunners tossed it out and never used it. Another "Fuck You" from them to Hasbro.

Speaking of costs, budget was another major issue with Prime. Episodes of Prime constantly went over budget, to the point that some episodes costed 1.5 - 2 million dollars. Prime was such a money hole that Hasbro had to scrap plans for one of the original follow up shows they had planned called 'Unit: E'. All the budget for that show went to Prime to be able to keep costs stable. Even then they were doing all they could to keep the budget down, they axed characters with expensive VAs, they reused models alot, humans started to become clones, the characters wouldn't transform as often (or if they did the transformation would happen off screen) and most infamously 2 clip shows. What also didn't help was the HUB wasn't as much of a success as they were hoping and were losing money there aswell.

(1/3)
Anonymous No.149879049 >>149879133 >>149880852 >>149883209 >>149896806
>>149879002
And then came Beast Hunters. Beast Hunters took something that was already a clusterfuck and somehow made it worst. Hasbro already had plans for what was to come after Prime (by this point they wanted the show done and to try again with a new show especially because of what was happening in Japan), Season 3 was meant to mostly take place on Cybertron and would mostly just wrap up the show (it was meant to end with Airachnid and Megatron teaming up with zombiecons). After which would come the next show which was going to focus on Space Pirates and be kind of like Season 3 of G1/Galaxy Force (this is where the Thundertron toy came from) whereas earth stuff would continue via Unit:E.

Anyway a new design director came in on the toy side and taking a page from the showrunners book said "Fuck You, I want animals". So Beast Hunters became the thing and this caused all sorts of problems. For one thing the show side had no money to accommodate anything the toy side was doing and eventually they just stopped any sort of synergy, deciding each to do their own thing. This is why the initial Optimus Prime and Preadking toys don't look like the show models (also why Predaking doesn't transform for a few episodes, they didn't have enough budget for his robot mode, because the change came last minute).

Now you might be wondering, why was the toy side allowed to make such a radical change if the show side already had plans? Because the toys were not selling. Prime had pretty much the worst toy sales for the brand at the time.

(2/3)
Anonymous No.149879133 >>149879280 >>149880504 >>149880852 >>149883209 >>149896806
>>149879049
And this was even worst in Japan. Prime and I'm not exaggerating when I say this. Prime almost killed the brand in Japan. Transformers went from toys you could find anywhere to being stuff you had to ask the employee to retrieve from the back. The show was even less well received, it was the second worst viewed show in it's timeslot over there. Prime was so badly recieved in Japan, they prematurely cut off the series and then made their own show just to try and recoup some losses, resulting in "Triple Combination: Transformers Go". This was particularly bad as in contrast Transformers Animated was extremely successful in Japan.

If you're wondering this is why Japan got certain exclusive figures in the Prime line. They were trying to do anything to try and make it sell over there.

Prime's failure in Japan also had longstanding consequences on the brand as a whole. It's why we don't see Takara versions of the Hasbro toys anymore, or if we do they're in limited quantities. Usually Takara just uses the Hasbro versions now, whereas before Takara would have their own version of the toyline usually with unique aspects (think the arms microns from Prime).

So Hasbro was desperate to try and fix things on the toy side and hoped the "Beast Hunters" rebrand would do the trick. It didn't.

By the end of it all Hasbro's ambitions for Prime to be the launch off point for their new continuity had completely failed. The show ended with a movie that just did the same song and dance the show had been doing and hasbro decided to take the next show in a different direction from what Prime had done. Doing something that closer in style to what had worked in the past (TFA) while omitting all the issues the Prime show caused.

So you might say "RID was horrible toddler shit" but at least it wasn't "horrible overpriced shit".

Anyway that was my Ted Talk on why Prime actually sucks.

I don't really have a good pic for this so have early concept art of some characters.
Anonymous No.149879280
>>149879133
What if I know all that and love it anyway
What then
Anonymous No.149879676 >>149881373
>>149878189
?
Anonymous No.149880472 >>149881156 >>149881324
>>149876453
>>149878492
i'll do my best
Anonymous No.149880504
>>149879133
>It's why we don't see Takara versions of the Hasbro toys anymore,
they literally tried again with Earthspark last year.
Anonymous No.149880852 >>149897076
>>149879002
>>149879049
>>149879133
>Hasbro had to scrap plans for one of the original follow up shows they had planned called 'Unit: E'
>the next show which was going to focus on Space Pirates and be kind of like Season 3 of G1/Galaxy Force whereas earth stuff would continue via Unit:E.
I already knew about most of this but I'd never heard of Unit:E before. do you have more information? I can't find anything about it online
Anonymous No.149881050
https://cocreco.kodansha.co.jp/telemaga/news/feature/tfgogo/xHarC
Anonymous No.149881156
>>149880472
Literally me on the right, thank you anon
Anonymous No.149881324
>>149880472
anon this is fantastic, I love it! You did a great job
Fun to see you do my take on what a robotfucker girl would look like lol. I figured unkempt hair and sorta skinnyfat.
Anonymous No.149881373 >>149881832 >>149882681
>>149879676
can they not perv? transformers are literally metal, like its objectively weirder than furries
Anonymous No.149881832 >>149881864
>>149881373
Sorry anon, you just don't get it.
The entire aesthetic Transformers is rooted in is handsome robots. Being attracted to them on some level is the goal. It's why they persevered when more robotic robot toys failed.
Anonymous No.149881864 >>149881951
>>149881832
Most boys who owned TF toys didnt wanna kiss them anon, I think most of the homosexual fans came on board with the comics when they first made them gay. But if you want me to fuck your bussy I will as long as youre skinny
Anonymous No.149881951 >>149882188
>>149881864
firstly, where did the homosexual stuff come from? We were discussing
>>149853457
, with a fembot, Arcee.
Second, people are naturally attracted and drawn more to robust heroes and stars, and not weird or dysgenic looks. Kids in the 80's preferred Optimus and Megatron to roboforce robots, because they were strong looking robot chads. They look strong and powerful.
Anonymous No.149882159 >>149882497
so do you guys have your own continuity you wish could be made as a series?

i have several ideas myself but to explain it all would take a lot of time and engineering but i'm curious about you.
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY No.149882188
>>149881951

Wow. The new versions of these guys are...quite the interpretation.
Anonymous No.149882497 >>149882540
>>149882159
how do i know you're not secretly a hasbro exec out to steal my optimus/bumblebee/starscream threesome idea
Anonymous No.149882540 >>149883744
>>149882497
i wish i was a Hasbro exec. I'd definitely be greenlighting so much cool shit.
Hector Hammond allowed one issue No.149882613
^^149882540
It's going to be so cool when in Steven Universe: Bad Future Garnet((Jasper)) makes an offhand comment about not needing comics to restart their number filing anymore. And then someones arm is lopped off at the shoulder before pressing a worrisome button.
>>The wind up! @&ND 7h3 p/tch!<<
Anonymous No.149882681 >>149883153
>>149881373
I'd say it's pretty normal to find them attractive. they're just big colourful humans
Anonymous No.149883153 >>149883812
>>149882681
They're made of metal
Anonymous No.149883209 >>149883279 >>149893325 >>149897467
>>149879002
>>149879049
>>149879133
Why did japan hate prime so badly? Also why was hasbros solution to infantilize the brand with RID2015 when all that decision did was drive people like me away from ever picking up another transformers cartoon.
Anonymous No.149883279 >>149883373 >>149883780 >>149893325
>>149883209
Japan never liked any Transformers, not in the way the US and UK did anyway. Even Beast Wars was butchered by them to make it an idiotic kiddy slapstick show

It's some autism regarding how they view machines, they think mecha (piloted manmade robots) are realistic and mature but living robots are just childish bs
Anonymous No.149883373 >>149891117
>>149883279
>It's some autism regarding how they view machines, they think mecha (piloted manmade robots) are realistic and mature but living robots are just childish bs
Why are nips such pretentious killjoys? Mechas arent as cool as real robots BECAUSE they have no personality/sentience to them. Thats a big reason why i never liked gundam because the setting has no aliens or real robots in it, just a bunch of boring humans in space.
Anonymous No.149883744
>>149882540
would you greenlight the threesome
Anonymous No.149883780 >>149883916
>>149883279
>It's some autism regarding how they view machines, they think mecha (piloted manmade robots) are realistic and mature but living robots are just childish bs
and yet Bravern was one of the most popular anime of that season in Japan, granted they had to do a bait and switch thing making you think its real robot until oh shit the titular robot is a sentinel lifeform.
Anonymous No.149883812
>>149883153
living metal. and living metal can be can soft in certain areas
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY No.149883916 >>149884142 >>149884365
>>149883780

Thats cause its an homage to the Brave franchise, which is considering one of the most popular kids franchises in Japan. Emphasis on kids.
Anonymous No.149884142 >>149884317
>>149883916
Boco can you elaborate on why the japs have a retarded hateboner for sentient robots?
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY No.149884317
>>149884142

Couldn't tell you. Maybe because the mecha genre started with lifeless robots like Mazinger and Gundam, while sentient robots were kiddy stuff like Astro Boy. Whatever the reason, stuff like Brave and Shinkalion cemented it.
Anonymous No.149884365 >>149884857
>>149883916
And brave was repurposed from late year transformers
Dai Atlas is appears as atlas in brave gaine
Takara recolored him
Dinobots appear in 1st series brave too
It all came full circle
From daiaclone to transformers to brave
Anonymous No.149884857
>>149884365
and we westerners got Brave with Transformers; Cybertron.

so i assume the rest of Brave is as cool as that.
Anonymous No.149884914 >>149885043 >>149886478
>>149821814
I just finished marathoning transformers animated and it was really anticlimactic
Anonymous No.149885043
>>149884914
There was supposed to be a fourth season that got scrapped thanks to Prime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At0OmPh_JoA
Anonymous No.149886478
>>149884914
tfa my beloved
Anonymous No.149886996 >>149887129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSxxIqKNN0
Anonymous No.149887129 >>149888618
>>149886996
>new divide came out 16 years ago
I wish Chester didnt fucking hang himself...
Anonymous No.149887443 >>149890734
>>149821148 (OP)
You know what I dislike about this show?
That we never had Airachnid come back to terrorize Cybertron. Instead she died off after she ran out of Insecticons to suck dry.
Anonymous No.149887846 >>149887956
>>149853457
Not Shown: Beast Wars Arcee who is a Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia recolor.
Anonymous No.149887942 >>149888132
I finished rewatching Beast Wars. Does anyone ever talk about how much of a downgrade Optimal Optimus is narratively? I feel like people remember his initial trash talking to Megatron ("We'll have 4 million years to clean you off the walls") and "Speech this!" *punch* and then forget that he loses at literally every single point he's around.
He fails to stop Rampage from destroying the Axalon and gets knocked out in his debut episode
He gets immediately shot by Tarantulas upon arriving to the battlefield in the raptor episode and starts singing
He gets accidentally shot by Cheetor while pursuing Megatron in Feral Scream Part 1 and has to return to base
He gets shot by Dinobot in Part 2 and can only sit and watch Cheetor fight him (also got shot again while he was down)
He fails to stop Tarantulas from killing Blackarachnia, the most he gets is trying to shoot Inferno with missiles, missing, and then Inferno gets gunned down by the ship because he was distracted
He gets shot by Tarantulas and then possessed by Quickstrike for nearly a whole episode and then loses to dragon Megatron before everyone else drives him off
He gets swallowed up by the earth when trying to stop Tigerhawk
He gets knocked out by the tractor beam of the Nemesis, and then gets beat up by Megatron in actual combat, it's Dinobot and Rhinox who save the day
Every other episode is him playing a support role and being out of the action. But for being a form that gets hyped up by the show and especially by Megatron to the point he continues to do so in Beast Machines (also in the comics with Primal Prime), it never achieves a single feat of strength unless being used by the Predacons.
Anonymous No.149887956 >>149888132
>>149887846
Airazor would've been more fitting.Not much more, but out of the two visibly female beast molds we had she would've been better
Anonymous No.149888132 >>149888243 >>149892513
>>149887956
Yeah. Or if they put some more time and retooled the Transmetal Tarantulas model due to it's 3rd alt-form being a motorbike. Perfect of Arcee.
>>149887942
Yeah. It's like the authors last minute realized that he was pretty OP (he towers over FREAKING RAMPAGE, has immense durability and power, and multiple alt-modes) and made him go through this.
I hate that.
Anonymous No.149888243 >>149896570
>>149888132
>Yeah. Or if they put some more time and retooled the Transmetal Tarantulas model due to it's 3rd alt-form being a motorbike. Perfect of Arcee.
lol how wild would id be if Arcee's bike mode came from a Tarantulas remold?
Her blue color in Prime already comes from an exclusive toy a few years prior.
It's like how Alpha Trion is a lion only because Beast Wars Snarl sort of had a beard.
Anonymous No.149888618 >>149888648 >>149914024
>>149887129
I don't wish that, because I do not like Linking Park
Anonymous No.149888648 >>149889322
>>149888618
Fuck off /pol/faggot, pizzagate was a fake myth
Anonymous No.149889322 >>149889343
>>149888648
I just posted that cause it's funny, but pedos are real an LP and LB stinks
Anonymous No.149889343
>>149889322
That is crazy slipknot art
Anonymous No.149890734 >>149896570
>>149887443
She should suck me dry, heyo
Anonymous No.149890950
>>149830331
the first red flag was being voiced by The Rock as if it was even possible to keep a VA that expensive on the long term
Anonymous No.149891117
>>149883373
I never liked Gundam because it takes itself too seriously and ruins the suspension of disbelief by having teens piloting the mecha instead of trained adults.
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Anonymous No.149892513 >>149896570
>>149888132
I think what happened was what happened with the DCAU Justice League's early treatment of Superman. They tried to make him appear older with the cheekbones so he would seem like more of a leader, while at the same time they thought he would be too overpowered, so every single time he starts to get involved, there needs to be something to take him out. As a result, it's just an old, tired Superman getting beaten up the entire season, and the character becomes completely ineffectual as a result. No matter how he's praised in the show, his results say otherwise. With Optimal Optimus, they had a toy they needed to market, the ultimate Beast Wars Transformer. But he can't just wreck the entire Predacon side, so he needs to be taken out of every battle at every opportunity. But they failed to give him a real moment where he can show off why he's powerful, he just transforms a bunch of times.
Anonymous No.149893074 >>149894682
Arcee has a nice upper chassis
Anonymous No.149893098 >>149895595
>>149840062
The Decepticons making mush out of the army in the Skybound comics felt like a huge middle finger to how the movies love to shill the fuck out of american military complex
Anonymous No.149893325 >>149893625
>>149883209
>>149883279
It's not that they don't like sentient mecha, it's that most TF shows frankly aren't that good compared to the anime they have there.
Prime is pretty low energy. American fans like the maturity, but compared to the Brave series it's not more mature, has less dynamic visuals and is much more reserved
Anonymous No.149893625 >>149893672
>>149893325
Beast Wars is better than any anime, sorry. It has real characters.
Anonymous No.149893672 >>149893789 >>149893803
>>149893625
The japanese BW dub is essentially a licensed abridged series. That must have cemented in their heads that TF is not something meant to be taken seriously.
Anonymous No.149893789
>>149893672
The Japanese BW dub is an entirely different show, they rewrote it into a much more Looney Tunes style comedy, changed the characters, etc, it's entirely cut up and rewritten
Anonymous No.149893803 >>149897593
>>149893672
There was a twitter post where they mentioned they saw Beast Wars as really ugly looking and , and the success of the dub was more laughing at it than legitimately liking it.
Anonymous No.149893842
i enjoy them
Anonymous No.149894682
>>149893074
That she does
Anonymous No.149895464 >>149895517 >>149896770 >>149897397 >>149908980
>>149821148 (OP)
Remember : Smokescreen was supposed to be season 1 and be the one to get killed and Seaspray was supposed to join the cast.
Anonymous No.149895517
>>149895464
smokescreen was annoying, so was wheeljack. two worst members of the cast
Anonymous No.149895595 >>149895821 >>149898610
>>149893098
Something I've come to realize lately that assuming military tech on Cybertron actually kept advancing after the Ark and Nemesis were lost on Earth, the Cybertronians operating there were basically the equivalent of Cortes/Pizarro among the Native Americans, having superior technology but limited resources and manpower. Meanwhile, the fight would be even more uneven if a more modern and well equipped Cybertronian army was to suddenly pop up.
Anonymous No.149895821 >>149895895 >>149896473 >>149899616
>>149895595
wasn't that the premise of G2?
Anonymous No.149895895
>>149895821
I don't know the premise of G2?
Anonymous No.149896395 >>149896770 >>149896792 >>149914047
Anonymous No.149896473
>>149895821
the comic? idk, the cartoon was literally just reruns of g1 with a cgi intro and obnoxious cut away things
Anonymous No.149896570 >>149901628
>>149888243
>Actual feminine rework of TM Tarantulas (bonus if the head is Arcee's but multi-eyed)
>Cool blue color from Prime
A man can only wish.
>>149890734
Yeah, but I wish she sucked everyone and be a horror-movie menace for the protags to deal with.
>>149892513
And this is what I hate. They had T2 Dragon Megatron presented and could've been a balancing force to avoid this (as well as it happening to the other side).
Let powerful characters be powerful, but drop in something to keep them busy instead having them look incompetent or get sucker shot for no reason.
Anonymous No.149896770 >>149899172
>>149895464
I like seaspray from g1 so that makes me sad
>>149896395
I like that comic where optimus and june fuck
Anonymous No.149896783 >>149908303
>>149825876
You have to let go, Jack…she was your first, but she doesn’t have to be your last.
Anonymous No.149896792
>>149896395
i don't know why but anyone getting with June and Jack just staring like that in shock is super fucking funny.
Anonymous No.149896806 >>149896844 >>149896907
>>149879002
>>149879049
>>149879133
I wonder what hasbro execs think or how they feel over the fact that despite everything, prime was the last transformers cartoon show alot of zoomers gave a damn about, myself included. The latest TF show i EVER see talked about online is prime, there are kids who are teens now that i see on insta or tumblr talking about the show that were in diapers when it was airing. And every show that followed is ignored ESPECIALLY RID2015.
Anonymous No.149896844 >>149896926
>>149896806
It was the same way before. Everyone loved Beast Wars and we didn't give a shit about BM, RiD, or UT.....but now kids who remember those are old, rinse and repeat

TF as a brand is mostly held up by nostalgia because they're the coolest toys you can have, but as fiction goes only a few are standouts while it's mostly just kinda not all that special unless you were also collecting the toys for said show
Anonymous No.149896907 >>149896946 >>149896972 >>149899392
>>149896806
>The latest TF show i EVER see talked about online is prime, there are kids who are teens now that i see on insta or tumblr talking about the show that were in diapers when it was airing. And every show that followed is ignored ESPECIALLY RID2015.

I chalk it up to every cartoon since then not feeling the actual priority for Hasbro and the Transformers designers teams. RID2015 was the start of this, its obvious all the real love was going into Combiner Wars and they never really stopped putting all the love and attention towards whatever is the Generations line of the year than any of the new cartoons. This is why we're stuck in the weird position we're in.

I say this as a huge fan of Generations toys and always buy them as a priority but they aren't giving me much of a reason to wanna buy whatever cartoon lines toyline that often.

it's kinda sad, i rather liked RID2015 and i absolutely loved Cyberverse. Earthspark was disappointing outside of a few things. Cyberworld is fun but its not really enough. WFC Trilogy is absolute ass as a show.

Maybe it's cause I grew up in the Unicron Trilogy era and I really listen to Aaron Archer's Toy Armada podcast a lot but I think we're genuinely overdue for a real brand shakeup that's willing to try new things and make it the real priority over nostalgia.
Anonymous No.149896926 >>149897000 >>149897636 >>149899990
>>149896844
>It was the same way before. Everyone loved Beast Wars and we didn't give a shit about BM, RiD, or UT.....but now kids who remember those are old, rinse and repeat
But no one has any nostalgia for beast machines and very few have nostalgia for unicron trilogy. Hasbro mostly sells G1, beast wars, animated, and prime universe toys in the current generations toyline too. I think the last beast machines toy was cheetor as a scout class which shelf warmed hard. RID2015 is never gonna be at the nostalgia level of prime or beast wars or animated because it just plain sucked as a show

Also transformers as a brand is in a worse place then it has been since right before bayformers 1 revitalized it. As good as TF one was no one went to see it because marketing made the movie look like it would be ass from the trailers. Michael bay is making a new transformers movie but thats still several years away at least too. Now is the perfect time more then ever for TF to get another cartoon that actually takes itself seriously and is of a higher caliber then the infantilized shite TF cartoon series have been for the last 10 years or so. It hasbro was smart they would take my advice and stop trying to baby-fy transformers more often and try to make it edgier again because like it or not kids like edge and no 12 year old is gonna watch a transformers cartoon where they characters look like toddler toys and act retarded and annoying all the time. Hence why earthspark sucked and failed.
Anonymous No.149896946 >>149897000
>>149896907
It is what it is, plastic is expensive, so toys for parents to buy and not collectors are shitty, and they're a toy company so if they know they CANT even put much effort into the toys well, idk, I think they just have tried to make more generic kids shows because Prime was a big thing, they spent a lot of money on it and Hub and it didn't quite pan out
Anonymous No.149896972
>>149896907
>I chalk it up to every cartoon since then not feeling the actual priority for Hasbro and the Transformers designers teams. RID2015 was the start of this, its obvious all the real love was going into Combiner Wars and they never really stopped putting all the love and attention towards whatever is the Generations line of the year than any of the new cartoons. This is why we're stuck in the weird position we're in.
I buy generations toys alot too and you have a point. Thats where the real passion for the brand is from internally at hasbro currently me thinks.
>Maybe it's cause I grew up in the Unicron Trilogy era and I really listen to Aaron Archer's Toy Armada podcast a lot but I think we're genuinely overdue for a real brand shakeup that's willing to try new things and make it the real priority over nostalgia.
Wholly agree because without new media that actually takes risks and tries something new TF will just fall into relevancy hopefully that rumored vivziepop transformers cartoon is good
Anonymous No.149897000 >>149897041 >>149897105
>>149896926
Earthspark was too baby uwu yet also was way too dark and edgy and creepy and gross, lots of body horror shit. It was the most tonally jarring series ever. Ignoring the elephant in the room that was the 2020s politics they tried to put in that was super dated once the show started (the racism graffiti scene is legitmately the most retarded scene in the entire franchise). It's a mess. Genuinely depresses me it could be the last proper tv show Transformers series given Cyberworld is all on YouTube.

>>149896946
it's not an excuse to not try anymore, I really think they need to at least try co-development again like with the Unicron Trilogy, anime is even more popular than ever, why are we not capitalizing on it now? That Trigger short last year was universally praised by the entire fandom.
Anonymous No.149897041 >>149897205
>>149897000
>Ignoring the elephant in the room that was the 2020s politics they tried to put in that was super dated once the show started (the racism graffiti scene is legitmately the most retarded scene in the entire franchise). It's a mess.
Whats this now? Ive never heard of this shit before
Anonymous No.149897076 >>149897128 >>149897263 >>149903207
>>149880852
Unit: E was already a somewhat established concept in the Prime show. It was the agency Fowler worked for (think like Sector Seven). Additionally in Prime Fowler made reference to things that were from other Hasbro properties (he name drops MASK in one episode and in another he refers to his squad of fighter jets as 'skystrikers' which is a GI JOE thing), these little references were meant to lead into something bigger.

UNIT: E as a show was meant to be an Avengers style series that would have had Transformers cross over with a whole bunch of Hasbro properties. Including GI JOE, M.A.S.K., JEM, Micronauts and the short lived Inhumanoids series from the 1980s.

As mentioned, Prime already was laying the groundwork for this series, this is why in the final episode of Prime Ratchet declared he was staying on Earth but then immediately went to Cybertron in the Movie. Because he was meant to be part of the Unit:E show set on earth while Transformers next show was going to be set in space. This is also what the plan for Jack, Miko and Raf were going forward.

So what happened? Well as mentioned Prime went overbudget so the budget that was allocated for Unit: E went into Prime instead. It's probably unlikely Unit: E would have lasted anyway, the HUB became Discovery Kids, just over a year later and almost all of Hasbro's plans for the channel fell apart.

Now what's interesting is in 2011 Hasbro did a promotional comic for Unit: E for the New York Comic con. It's kind of bare bones but it gives out the basic premise for what Unit: E was planned to be (in the comic, Unit E operated out of a space station, but the show it would be set on Earth). So they were working on this concept for a few years before it got the axe.
Anonymous No.149897105 >>149899538
>>149897000
Regardless of what UT fans say, most of the TF fanbase is more rooted in Western comic books and cartoons, or are strictly toy collectors. There's a reason the UT was shat on for so long before zoomers aged up, there is crossover between TF and mecha anime fans, but it's not as much as people think
Anonymous No.149897128 >>149897263
>>149897076
>he name drops MASK in one episode and in another he refers to his squad of fighter jets as 'skystrikers' which is a GI JOE thing
I dont remember any of this. I really need to rewatch prime at some point
Anonymous No.149897205 >>149897213
>>149897041
so basically Earthspark began development in 2020 when the world went insane with covid and the George Floyd riots and shit. No doubt that was on the mind of the people that developed the show wanting to tap into that cultural zeitgeist. hence why the main human family are half black (and also Filipino?). The idea was that the Terrans and Transformers were supposed to represent immigrants except well the show has made it very clear that the Transformers war on Earth was a net negative where lots of people died in those conflicts yet also want to shame people who probably don't feel comfortable with these giant warring alien robots on the planet after everything. The main human villain Mandroid is a mad scientist driven insane by losing his arm in those conflicts and wants to erradicate the Transformers from Earth. He's a irredemable monster that was a victim of the Transformers that no one really cares was impacted by their war. The other main human villain, the director of the agency GHOST who the Autobots and Megatron ally with, is literally named Karen Croft, her whole deal is that despite working in what is technically a family business she hates the Transformers too and strikes a deal with Mandroid to also get rid of them, there's no real motivation for her to do this unlike Mandroid, they basically wanted a hate sink named Karen yet at the same time we're also supposed to feel bad for her when Mandroid kills her, its really stupid and sad cause i think it would've been better if Croft represented the Deep State who needs war and conflict to perpetuate the military industrial complex but whatever.

1/4
Anonymous No.149897213 >>149897225 >>149897803
>>149897205
Then we get to Nightshade, the only reason anyone actually talks about the show because they're the non binary Transformer character. Nightshade is frustrating cause there is makings for an interesting character, a eccentric mad scientist who also has a super motif but all Nightshade's really there for is their pronouns but here's the kicker after the Home 2 parter Nightshade really stops being relevant, and is just a background character. Like they couldn't really commit to actually doing anything with this non binary robot, i have a feeling they realized they fucked up making the character that because now this character is all that ever comes up when discussing the show by the LGBT fans and those that hate the show for it, i don't think anyone actually cares about Nightshade outside of that. I don't think Nightshade's fans would've loved the character if they weren't a they. I'm not kidding when i say this but the only time Nightshade has contributed to the plot since the Home 2 part episode is creating the device that causes the movie night episode to happen and Nightshade is barely important in that one. It genuinely comes off to me that they wanted a critical political darling to win awards and shit without really actually doing anything interesting with the character outside of them being LGBT.

2/4
Anonymous No.149897225 >>149897233 >>149897246
>>149897213
ok so now i'll get to the racism graffiti scene, during the Home 2 parter episode (this episode is seriously just the lets put all the "woke" shit in it and be done with it episode). so Robby the main human boy returns back to his old stomping grounds in Philadelphia meets up with an old friend of his named Stevie and they're gonna hang out but then they see graffiti saying "Transformers Go Home" everyone but Stevie is offended and Stevie brings up how the Transformers war wasn't a good thing and that there may be a point to this sentiment and everyone just basically tells him to fuck off. later on Stevie is shown to tweak the graffiti saying Transformers Are Home. It's so mind-numbingly stupid this whole bit how they tossed away a perfectly good friendship over nothing, the fact Stevie could just do that is why it's more infuriating. the scene just makes Robby so unlikeable to me. It's feels very indicative of the current year left winger unintentionally because after all this is what most leftists genuinely think.

3/4
Anonymous No.149897233
>>149897225

and then finally so much of the first seasons plot hinges on the idea that the remaining Decepticons are being cruely and inhumanely kept in captivity by GHOST. Starscream has a whole sob story about being abused by Megatron and all that shit but then season 2 reverses this that after the conflict of season 1 wraps, the Decepticons just go back to being bad guy Decepticons. so basically this show sets up all these ideas and then walks back this shit to return back to a status quo of what we're used to but now it's just worse. basically the show tried to be "woke" and then decided to walk it back and now it's basically not appealing to anyone now.

the only real silver lining in this show that I genuinely liked was the Quintesson arc of "season 3", i will give it credit here, this actually was a fun set of episodes once Prowl's introduced leading up to the Quintesson invasion but otherwise this show isn't really that great. the voice acting is probably the only high point, that and a couple of sakuga fight scenes but otherwise the tone and execution is mostly wrong for Transformers, its far too cynical for what it is yet is too baby to be cool. I'm not a blind hater like most folks are, there are some characters and episodes i really loved but I genuinely can't recommend it in good conscious unlike other shows.

4/4, thank you for my TED talk on Earthspark.
Anonymous No.149897246 >>149897277 >>149897415
>>149897225
>in Philadelphia meets up with an old friend of his named Stevie and they're gonna hang out but then they see graffiti saying "Transformers Go Home"
Its just this scene from fat albert holy shit. Fuck identity politics/SJW shit making everything and everyone go crazy
Anonymous No.149897263
>>149897076
>>149897128
yeah Fowler says that MASK designed the truck that the Beast Hunters Optimus Prime design turns into.

Hasbro really has been wanting to get all their properties to work as a shared universe but its never really worked, though Skybound's Energon Universe so far is coming the closest to making it work since it's been doing great. I've been hearing murmurs now of MASK being the next original title for the EU and it could be annouced at NYCC in October.
Anonymous No.149897277
>>149897246
Anonymous No.149897397
>>149895464
the idea they were thinking for Prime Seaspray was that he was like Quint from Jaws, a rugged no nonsense sea captain. Man that would've been so crazy but fun. Though i'm sure the lack of any major body of water in Jasper Nevada probably is why they didn't have Seaspray in the show.
Anonymous No.149897415 >>149897435
>>149897246
>Latinx
Very progressive.
Anonymous No.149897435 >>149897451
>>149897415
unironically the correct way to offend a hispanic/latino/mexican.
Anonymous No.149897451
>>149897435
Can confirm, when i went to a resturant with a group of people the latino brother of the latina girl that i knew that was there mentioned at one point that hed rather be called a beaner then latinx
Anonymous No.149897467 >>149897541 >>149897594
>>149883209
Prime failed on two fronts in Japan, with it's toyline and the show. Interestingly the toyline came before the show did and I think it's failure is what led to the show's failure.

Takara tried to market the toyline to a teenager audience (unlike previous shows where the toys were aimed at younger audiences), and they did this by trying to make the toys be more like model kits (think like gundams). Now for the actual toys they did this by removing paint applications and replacing them with stickers the consumer would put on. Then they got rid of the weapons and replaced them with 'Arms Microns' which were minicons that you made from model kit style sprues. And let me just say, Takara really tried hard to make Arms Microns be a thing, even releasing special promotional ones (way more than Armada ever got, the show that created the Microns).

Anyway this didn't work and older kids didn't like the toys. Hell, Takara probably made more money from americans importing the toys than any they sold domestically.

Primes dub on the other hand was made more child friendly because the toyline failed to capture an older crowd. However Takara's dub started 2 years after Prime debuted on the HUB, so Japanese TF fans had already seen the show (most didn't like it, they found it kind of boring and had less stakes than One Piece or even older tf shows like Masterforce), and when they saw Takara's kid dub they really didn't like it. Whereas the younger audience didn't like the show either and by proxy didn't like the toys either. So just under a year after it started airing in Japan, Takara killed the show and edited the season 2 finale to be a series finale. Going on to make their own show out of pocket to try and save the brand on their own terms.

Prime did however get some cool DVD covers in Japan though.
Anonymous No.149897541 >>149899048
>>149897467
>Takara tried to market the toyline to a teenager audience (unlike previous shows where the toys were aimed at younger audiences), and they did this by trying to make the toys be more like model kits (think like gundams). Now for the actual toys they did this by removing paint applications and replacing them with stickers the consumer would put on.
Why would having to do more work to complete your toy make said toy more appealing to purchase? Whats the point?
>most didn't like it, they found it kind of boring and had less stakes than One Piece
Why do nips like that badly drawn pirate fanfic so badly?
Anonymous No.149897593 >>149898855
>>149893803
>they saw Beast Wars as really ugly looking and , and the success of the dub was more laughing at it than legitimately liking it.
So its japans equivalent to Xavier: renegade angel?
Anonymous No.149897594 >>149897627 >>149897803
>>149897467
it makes sense why it didn't work. the dub was too kiddy but the toys were too adult. Granted Prime as a toyline was a mixed bag, some great toys, some not so great toys. it wasn't as good as Animated. Jesus christ that deluxe Airachnid figure is one of the worst figures ever.
Anonymous No.149897627
>>149897594
>Jesus christ that deluxe Airachnid figure is one of the worst figures ever.
I still have mine from when i was in highschool because i wanted to fuck her so badly
Anonymous No.149897636 >>149897714 >>149899686
>>149896926
>very few have nostalgia for unicron trilogy
>Hasbro mostly sells ... animated and prime universe toys
What universe are you living in?
The Generations output for UT (well, Armada really) is way better than what Animated and especially Prime gets.
UT has gotten a good chunk of it's guys out (most of them with original molds) and they're doing good enough that Hasbro keeps nickle and diming people for mini-cons.
Animated at least has a few original molds for Optimus, Bumblebee and Prowl.
Meanwhile Prime is just low tier pre/re-tool tier (Arcee was clearly designed to be Road Rocket first, Bulkhead/Breakdown being Heatwave is unconfirmed, but it certainly fits him better. Skyquake is the closest to getting his own one, but he's clearly very heavily based on the G1 version anyway). The best treated Prime character is fucking Thundertron. You know, the guy who didn't even get to be on it.
Anonymous No.149897714 >>149897908
>>149897636
>What universe are you living in?
I forgot about the hot shot and commander class optimus they made. Its the morning my brain is fried and i mostly focus on TF toys i want usually so thats why i memory holed alot of the UT toys from generations
>(Arcee was clearly designed to be Road Rocket first
I didnt know that
Anonymous No.149897803 >>149898205 >>149899108
>>149897213
I like Nightshade as a character but as you said they are incredibly underused. In Season 1 their role in the show made sense but in Season 2 onwards they just become this background element and only sometimes contributes for basic science stuff (and even that is rare when there are times where being a scientist would be helpful but he just contributes nothing).

I think the worst aspect of their lack of character was how the writers completely wrote Tarantulas out of the show. Without him Nightshade had literally no chemistry with any of the other characters in the show.

I also think they kneecapped Nightshade's character with awful way they revealed they were non binary. I think they had planned for it to be built up over the first season based on Nightshade's moments throughout the show but they probably found out they were going to go on hiatus just after introducing the new Terrans so they inserted that awkward scene of Mo telling Optimus of Nightshade's pronouns.

It's actually a shame they went that route because I think Nightshade being non-binary wouldn't have been as much of an issue if you didn't have that scene and instead it was something built up over the season. But I think that was Earthspark's problem in general it wanted to have it's cake and eat it too. Not just with Nightshade but alot of things are just glossed over and we just get the end result (like the origin of Dot and Megs friendship was explained in a book and not the show itself).

>>149897594
From what I understand both Airachnid and Knockout's toys suffered due to the budget. A couple of other later figures also got hit by these budget issues. The cheap retool Beast Hunter toys meant that some of the other characters who hadn't got toys up to that point weren't as affected. Like Smokescreen and Shockwave who got pretty decent toys.
Anonymous No.149897908
>>149897714
>Optimus Prime
>Hot Shot
>Red Alert
>Megatron
>Starscream
>Tidal Wave
>Wheeljack (well, not fully but they did Shattered Glass Sideswipe, and he's a full on repaint of him)
>a few leaked guys
>a smattering of Cybertron (and Energon Megatron for some reason)
I dunno how you miss all that.
Besides just the obvious case of massive bias.
Anonymous No.149898205
>>149897803
it's worth noting that in the series bible for Earthspark, Nightshade being non-binary was meant to be routed in more of a sci-fi approach that Nightshade didn't see a point to having a gender because they're all robots.

and yeah what the fuck did ever happen to Tarantulas? granted i've always been mixed on this version to begin with, idk if i liked Tarantulas being sympathetic, part of me feels like Blackarachnia would've been the better spider character to use here.

>But I think that was Earthspark's problem in general it wanted to have it's cake and eat it too.

oh lord they really tried and then they stopped trying.

>Smokescreen and Shockwave who got pretty decent toys.

Shockwave was aight but Smokescreen i never got the appeal of that figure, way too finnicky with how the hood becomes panels onto the arms.
Anonymous No.149898610 >>149899580
>>149895595
I think it's more something like Warhammer 40k where all factions except the T'au are so busy killing each other that they don't have time to develop new technology. But something similar happened in Beast Machines when Nightscream says that now everyone in Cybertron had a internal DNA scanner.
Anonymous No.149898855
>>149897593
at this point I'm convinced that TF is in the same category as Sonic of a japanese IP(well, partially japanese in TF's case) that japs themselves don't give a damn about but it's beloved in the west
Anonymous No.149899048 >>149899223
>>149897541
>Why would having to do more work to complete your toy make said toy more appealing to purchase? Whats the point?
In Japan, model kits are tied to more mature shows like Gundam,
Transformers in Japan has been marketed to younger kids traditionally, but even then hasn't been that successful at that.
Anonymous No.149899108 >>149899415
>>149897803
>he cheap retool Beast Hunter toys meant that some of the other characters who hadn't got toys up to that point weren't as affected. Like Smokescreen and Shockwave who got pretty decent toys.
then there was that bizarre Takara only Smokescreen they rushed out in the last few months of Prime...which was strange because if you know Toy Production cycles, the BH toy was almost certainly /done/ when it was released
I get the initial plans were likely before they committed to a new mold, but still, very bizarre to go through releasing it.
Anonymous No.149899172 >>149899247
>>149896770
>comic where optimus and june fuck
...may i see it
Anonymous No.149899223 >>149899560
>>149899048
>In Japan, model kits are tied to more mature shows like Gundam,
Why do japs love model kits so much? They're too fragile to be used as toys so ergo there boring
Anonymous No.149899247 >>149899899
>>149899172
Im too lazy to look atm sorry
Anonymous No.149899392
>>149896907
Cyberverse is by far the biggest mixed bag in the entire franchise, it had an extremely boring S1, a mid S2 and an amazing S3
Anonymous No.149899415
>>149899108
the one silver lining is that the Micron can actually go on the back and emulate his door wings.
Anonymous No.149899538 >>149899777
>>149897105
So an Anime would bring in a new audience. What's wrong with that?
Anonymous No.149899560 >>149899691
>>149899223
Maybe if you have country hams for hands like most Americans. Modern kits aren't fragile at all.
Anonymous No.149899580 >>149899717
>>149898610
But even then though, given that it's a war, both sides would probably be busy trying to find one edge or another. Honestly, given that triplechangers and phase sixers became things after S1, I'm figuring that things weren't locked in stasis back on Cybertron.

Can you imagine though if a new continuity brought back the Ark and Nemesis crashing on Earth, then revealed that in the time since then, Cybertron wound up developing Maximals (as an Autobot corps) and Predacons (as a Decepticon corps) as smaller, fuel-efficient (due to the lack of energon) troops. They could even justify it by saying that these corps were built on the technology used to build smaller robots like Blaster/Soundwave's cassette troops.
Anonymous No.149899616 >>149899637
>>149895821
Was it? The only things about G2 I've even got some awareness of are Jhiaxus and the Cybertronian Empire (from the one comic issue that I came across years back), that page where Megatron calls himself an idiot for continuing to put up with Starscream, and an Optimus toy I used to have.
Anonymous No.149899637
>>149899616
I think Megatron got his new tank alt mode after being rebuilt by Cobra?
Anonymous No.149899686 >>149899909
>>149897636
>Arcee was clearly designed to be Road Rocket first
What
Anonymous No.149899691 >>149899834 >>149899990
>>149899560
You cant play with them they fall apart. Theyre literally no better then statue shit
Anonymous No.149899717 >>149899857
>>149899580
It looks like for some reason cybertronian technology only thrives in times of peace. The time gap between G1 and Beast era is just a few centuries which should be nothing in cybertronian years and it was enough to develop transwarp travel and organic beast modes
Anonymous No.149899777 >>149899837
>>149899538
There's nothing wrong per se, it's that Hasbro had a bad history with the UT because Takara didn't really bother to communicate with the show runners what the US side wanted(believe it or not,the plans for most of the UT were hashed out on the US side, and those plans were what the animes were based on.) That sort of killed any faith the US side had in producing anime, and considering Hasbro has attempted tighter control on the fiction since the 2000's I can't imagine them getting any better.
we're probably more likely to see a US anime inspired production than a new anime. There's also the matter that Japanese studios are far more busy now than ever before and unless they REALLY pony up money, are unlikely to take up US commissioned work these days like in the past.
Anonymous No.149899834
>>149899691
be more gentle and don't smash them together fatty.
Anonymous No.149899837 >>149901885
>>149899777
>we're probably more likely to see a US anime inspired production than a new anime.
funny thing is the press release for Cyberworld states its heavily based on mecha anime.
Anonymous No.149899857
>>149899717
In hindsight though, I guess Maximal/Predacon organic alt modes are justified by building off the precedents of pretenders and smaller Cybertronians.

Rise of the Beasts surprised me when it was clear that the Maximals only looked like animals from a distance. I guess a future series could play on that by showing each generation of robots transforming into animals gradually getting more and more organic looking even as they shrink. Could even make a joke about the graphics of the original Beast Wars series by talking about how the animal alt forms of one generation basically look like 90s-early 2000s CGI when viewed up close.
Anonymous No.149899899 >>149914047
>>149899247
can you give me some hints

like. was it western or eastern, pixiv or nhentai or r34...

i want interspecies dilf on milf action dammit
Anonymous No.149899909 >>149899990
>>149899686
nta, but they mean this figure. Road Rocket was probably meant to be the original use of the mold since most of it's visual cues are tied to RR, but they also planned to use it for Prime Arcee as a bonus. Though it meant RR was retroactively made a fembot too
Anonymous No.149899990 >>149900163 >>149903447
>>149899691
Model kits tend to be quite stable depending on how well you put them together.

As for how you play with them, you play with them like you would with a hot wheels car or any toy that doesn't have much articulation. Or you can just display them as statues.

The other thing is that most model kits tend to be alot cheaper compared to in the west. They also come in alot more variety. If you go to your local hobby shop and look at model kits for cars you'll most likely see popular mainstream super cars or classic muscle cars or import tuners (Porsche 911, Ferrari F40, Dodge Charger, Ford Mustang, Nissan Skyine, Toyota Supra). In a Japanese model shop you'll find all those plus literally so many other kinds of vehicles and those would just be like cars.

You can find entire stores in Tokyo dedicated to selling a single kind of model kit or they will have entire floors dedicated to a single thing (military on one floor, regular cars on another, gundam on another).

>>149899909
Shadow Striker got the same treatment. Her figure is mostly a homage to the old Sideburn toy from RID and only partially resembles her Cyberverse look (and not even the repaired form she has for most of the show but her original undamaged design).

>>149896926
>very few have nostalgia for unicron trilogy
Maybe in the west but I've seen alot of japanese fans be nostalgic over Legend of the Microns, Superlink and Galaxy Force.
Anonymous No.149900163 >>149901008
>>149899990
>I've seen alot of japanese fans be nostalgic over Legend of the Microns, Superlink and Galaxy Force.
i tend to find Japanese Transformers fans seem to actually enjoy the brand the most for what it is.
Anonymous No.149901008 >>149901500
>>149900163
It's fun how chill they are compared to American fans
Like even now you'll have some 45+ year old fans complaining about Beast Wars because Trukk not Munkky, or the animes being too "Pokemon", or the Bay movies
Then you have the JP fans quietly enjoying everything as it comes , and if they dislike something it's more apathy than anger.
Anonymous No.149901097 >>149901462 >>149919164
Would you a Starscream?
Anonymous No.149901462 >>149919164
>>149901097
yes
god yes
Anonymous No.149901500 >>149901823
>>149901008
yeah that's what i'm getting at. there's no drama in their side of the fandom.
Anonymous No.149901628 >>149901778
>>149896570
And in both fights with dragon Megatron, Optimal Optimus is defeated. It's weird how Beast Machines tries to act like this dragon form is some flailing weakness and Optimal Optimus is the ultimate weapon.
Anonymous No.149901778 >>149902797
>>149901628
if the hero is too OP then it gets less interesting if he's just mowing down every back guy.
Anonymous No.149901823
>>149901500
it's hard to have drama when no one there is truly passionate about the franchise. Have in mind that TF in Japan is seen as a kiddie franchise just as much as Beyblade and Bakugan.
Anonymous No.149901885 >>149902259
>>149899837
Really? Which one was that?
Anonymous No.149902259
>>149901885
https://tformers.com/transformers-cyberworld-official-details-on-new-youtube-series-inspired-by-mecha-anime-/54435/news.html

"Since their creation, Transformers have encouraged and Inspired kids across the globe to use their imagination and create Inventive worlds for the transformative vehicle-soldiers to fit within. Its been their calling card for years, and it's only increased as the toys have evolved into true mechanical wonders. Now, Hasbro is kicking it up a notch with the release of CYBERWORLD, a fresh, stylized toy line visually Inspired by Mecha Anime, where Transformers bots of all kinds get dropped into one combined world made of diverse regions. Here, kids will be able to devise their own Transformers storylines that cross characters between the well known worlds and Are, allowing them to create new team ups, battles, and action. Since this is a major release, Hasbro's going to be premiering it at this month's Nuremberg Toy Fair, where the toys will be revealed alongside an upcoming YouTube Series, and they're looking for YOU to help capture footage of the toys from the toy fair and use It to reveal CYBERWORLD to the rest of the world."
Anonymous No.149902474 >>149904809
>>149826044
Oxygenated energon
Anonymous No.149902797 >>149903341
>>149901778
I understand that, but my point is that Optimal Optimus never got ANYTHING, not a single victory on combat, despite how much he's hyped up by Megatron. Optimus is unquestionably less useful in that form than he ever was before, he never stops a single Predacon. Watching the episodes, you will never see him do anything. He may try to participate in the action, but he accomplishes less than before. I'm not against losing streaks in my media for kids. I think that in a serialized narrative, if there's a greater point to be made, if there's another narrative building while the hero is losing, it's not a waste of time. I LIKE Digimon Frontier's final arc, an arc that most people in NA seem to hate because there's a prolonged losing streak. But I like it because that losing streak means the villains aren't stopping, they're going from place to place to continue their plan, and it presents numerous occasions for the heroes to return to previous episode locations to showcase their growth and impart their lessons and really hammer in the themes of the series (cooperation, understanding one another). But Optimus being taken out every single time doesn't mean anything thematically, he's just the bazooka that always malfunctions. It's not like when Optimus died stopping the Planet Buster, that achieved something.
Anonymous No.149903207 >>149904223
>>149897076
wow thanks for the effortpost anon, I didn’t think I was going to get a response. honestly this all actually sounds pretty cool, the idea of having one or two cybertronians being present as characters in a non-transformers show that’s not explicitly about them is novel to me, Ratchet especially seems like great choice for that.
do you know how I can find the comic? Is it just called Unit: E?
Anonymous No.149903341 >>149903747
>>149902797
that was cause of Optimal Situation where he had such a great first outing but yeah they made him a colossal jobber afterwards.

it's just funny Megatron wore the Optimal body better.
Anonymous No.149903447 >>149904223
>>149899990
>Shadow Striker got the same treatment. Her figure is mostly a homage to the old Sideburn toy from RID and only partially resembles her Cyberverse look
That's because the Cyberverse Shadow Striker is an homage to an older character, who was just a Sideburn repaint lawl
Anonymous No.149903747
>>149903341
I don't even know if it was a great first outing. He intimidates and trash talks like a pro, really makes you think he's going to do something, and then Megatron causes the cave-in and the rest of the episode is playing on the defensive and trying to catch up to the Predacons. He cuts the tethers on the Axalon, but then Rampage shoots him and knocks him out in one blow, and the Axalon falls, so he fails in that regard. The Ark being the new base was inevitable because of his size, but they spend much of the season struggling with its old technology, so I can't really call that a straight upgrade.

What Optimal Optimus does in the first episode is rapidly cycle through four transformations (beast mode is blink and you miss it and only there as a go-between), and he makes for a really cool looking toy, so there's that. You just have to believe that he's really powerful though.
Anonymous No.149904223 >>149914075 >>149915551
>>149903207
Yeah. You should be able to find it quite easily. However the scans are not the best, but it's easier to find than english translations of the Legends manga.

>>149903447
That's where they got the name but Shadow Striker's design in the show was inspired by Nightracer. She was even intended to be Nightracer but due to licensing reasons they couldn't use the name. So they used Shadow Striker instead. Hence why her gun is yellow in her concept art.
Anonymous No.149904809
>>149902474
Methane energon.
Anonymous No.149905417 >>149907452
I&#039;m 54 lmao No.149905429
COUGH, COUGH

EXCUSE ME

BUT

AUTOBOTS?

THEY ARE

FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AUTOBOTS RULE, DECEPTIONS DROOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.149905962
>i kidnapped breakdown and tried to anatomize him alive but surely the decepticons will let me join them cause i'm now puppeting his corpse
>wtf knock out is going to to anatomize me how could this be happening?????????
silas... i................
Anonymous No.149906175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J5ULDssAak
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Anonymous No.149907419 >>149911178
Anonymous No.149907452
>>149905417
>any dark energon episode
Anonymous No.149908303
>>149896783
NEVER
Anonymous No.149908980
>>149895464
You're lying
You gotta be
How the hell have I never heard of this
Anonymous No.149909921
Anonymous No.149910484
Anonymous No.149910825 >>149911520 >>149911671 >>149911746 >>149916846 >>149938894
Decided to indulge my inner child and start going back through Transformers. Currently bingewatching through G1 and I'm planning to binge more Transformers content after. Give me a quick rundown on which shows to watch after. And also, comic lines to read.
I also want to play War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron at some point, just have to figure out where to acquire those.
Anonymous No.149911178
>>149907419
Someone should have told this artist about the obscure mermaid transformer that also turns into a dolphin.
Anonymous No.149911520 >>149911617 >>149913212 >>149920484
>>149910825
animated, because i like it and it's my favorite

but more, beast wars. it's kino and introduces a lot of important concepts that the whole series keeps going forward. personally, i find the old CG animation very cute
Anonymous No.149911617 >>149911671
>>149911520
As much as i love animated as a kid i hate DJW for ruining ben 10
Anonymous No.149911671 >>149911754
>>149910825
Beast Wars, Animated and Prime are the obvious ones.
>>149911617
That's an unpopular opinion nowadays, most fans now tend to consider Omniverse the best version of Ben 10, arguably even better than the original.
Anonymous No.149911746 >>149911989
>>149910825
watch the japanese G1 shows too
Anonymous No.149911754
>>149911671
>That's an unpopular opinion nowadays, most fans now tend to consider Omniverse the best version of Ben 10, arguably even better than the original.
Thats because theyre idiots with shit taste. Ill never forgive DJW for ruining the franchise by infantilizing it and making it into a retarded ass of itself, especially after alien force made ben 10 better by making it take itself more seriously
Anonymous No.149911989 >>149912133 >>149912517
>>149911746
I heard that Headmasters is so painfully bad that most people won't even recommend it to their worst enemies
Anonymous No.149912133 >>149912334 >>149912517
>>149911989
NTA but I've always hated that take. people dislike it because of the atrocious quality of the dub and because the characters are inconsistent with their US versions. I'm not trying to say it's great by any means, it's highly flawed, but if you watch a decent sub and get over the character changes then it's pretty much just more G1
Anonymous No.149912334
>>149912133
there's also the fact that Takara doubled down on keeping Optimus dead after Hasbro caved it to the fans
Anonymous No.149912517 >>149916545 >>149918593
>>149911989
oh yeah
it's pretty bad overall but i'd say any episodes with sixshot are worth watching at least

>>149912133
i watched it subbed and it still doesn't help much
>scorponok and his planet bombs are a poorly written villain
>chromedome is annoying and the rest of the headmaster autobot cast isn't very interesting
>in fact the headmasters shouldn't have been the stars of the show at all cause they're that boring
>daniel and wheelie are even more annoying and useless
>way more talking and narration and less fighting compared to the original show
basically it's a boring show that doesn't pick up
Anonymous No.149913212
>>149911520
>That pic
lol
Anonymous No.149913821
>>149821148 (OP)
Yeah. What about it?
Anonymous No.149914024
>>149888618
None of these three people are related, John Podesta has no such convictions or even allegations of sexual abuse against him, and Bennington's father was actually a police officer who investigated child abuse cases.
Why would you post such easily debunked lies when the answers are just a new tab and search engine away?
Anonymous No.149914047 >>149914067 >>149919624 >>149931351
>>149899899
NTA, but I've just checked Paheal and Rule34.xxx. There's a Fred Perry comic on Paheal and I'm not sure if that's the one anon means.
While we're on the topic I am genuinely annoyed that this moment >>149896395 didn't spawn more smut. Metal/squishy pairings like JuneXOptimus, JackXArcee, CharlieXBumblebee, and PowerglideXAstoria are all top tier pairings and there's fuck all of it, and even less good quality smut of what exists.
Anonymous No.149914067
>>149914047
>fred perry
Thats the artist who did it, yes
Anonymous No.149914075
>>149904223
I'm still so pissed that she didn't get a decent figure. All the dedicated Cyberverse figures suck ass and the Legacy version's robot mode being based mainly on the Universe version of the character (and being a shitty figure to boot) is just a square kick in the balls.
Anonymous No.149914092 >>149914750 >>149915246 >>149915375
RETVRN TO PEAK

the 90s CGI just gives beastwars a bit more of a charm compared to prime's artstyle y'know?
Anonymous No.149914750 >>149915375
>>149914092
i love how you can see a bit of jpg artifacting on cheetor's spots in closeup
Anonymous No.149915246
>>149914092
this scene in particular always felt for me as a reminder that BW is indeed a 90's show
Anonymous No.149915375 >>149918225
>>149914092
>>149914750
really hoping Beast Wars will be remastered one day the same way they've been trying to remaster ReBoot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inKdUICLmXY&pp=ygUQcmVib290IGVwaXNvZGUgMQ%3D%3D
Anonymous No.149915551 >>149915884
>>149904223
If there's one thing from Cyberverse that should have become the status quo in the following installments is the Quintessons being multiversal conquerors instead of being Quintus Prime's failed project
Anonymous No.149915884
>>149915551
i love Cyberverse's take on them. especially the Scientist.
Anonymous No.149916545 >>149918593
>>149912517
Hot take, but the JPs versions of the headmasters, as in just small robot that connect to a mecha, is fucking boring.
The original premise of sticking organic characters unto a cybertronian is much more interesting and would lead to more fun stuff than "The same shit, but they can detach their heads".
Anonymous No.149916846
>>149910825
Beast Wars, Animated, Prime. I feel like those are just the standard best series. Theres other cool stuff too, but it varies more and will rely on your preferences for media styles
Anonymous No.149917166 >>149917448 >>149918593
Okay, hear me out.
>The Cybertonians are facing an energy crisis.
>One propose to convert to Plasma Energy, one want to conquer planets to get more Energon, which is synthetized from fossil fuels.
>The Autobots use Plasma Energy, and they have noses and compressor lungs to create the plasma (nicknamed sparks) within their bodies. They are all around weaker than the decepticons, but can operate indefinitly as long as they have air.
>Decepticons use Energon, a super energizing substance. They don't have noses and are way more powerful, but can't fight for long as they burn through their fuels.
>Autobots crashes unto earth first 100 years before the story begins, and the crash put them into stasis.
>Decepticons, having predicted the planet unto they crashed, followed them, but couldn't find them.
>They inflitrate society instead and are preparing to conquer it.
>Humans accidentaly wake up the Autobots 100 years later, the story begins.
You like it?
Anonymous No.149917448 >>149917807 >>149918990 >>149932668
>>149917166
>>The Cybertonians are facing an energy crisis.
>>One propose to convert to Plasma Energy
Now that's just To Fuel The Guttering Flame. No snark though, since that fic is unironically one of the best pieces of Transformers media. Canon or not.
Anonymous No.149917807 >>149918760 >>149918835
>>149917448
>has a cat like design
>named CATalyst
>turns into a vehicle like dragonfly?
Anonymous No.149918225 >>149918624
>>149915375
LinusTechTips is sponsoring the ReBoot thing, and reading the story of how it's being done and how much old obscure proprietary hardware is involved makes me realize that only a very small number of people in the world are capable of doing it. If Beast Wars is to happen, it would need to be with these people while the iron is hot. And unlike ReBoot, it would need Hasbro (and maybe Takara) to finance it since they're the license holders. I'd also like to see Beast Machines and Shadow Raiders (War Planets) since that always felt like the third pillar, but the rights would belong to Jakks Pacific, and I don't think there's anywhere near as much interest online as there was for ReBoot and Beast Wars.

Would also be a good opportunity for Weird-Ohs!, but also too obscure in the grand scheme of things.
Anonymous No.149918593
>>149912517
I don't disagree with anything expect for Wheelie being more annoying than his US version. I thought he was actually pretty chill.

>>149916545
I don't know anon. the US concept feels very ad hoc and sort of falls apart under scrutiny. I get where you're coming from though, binary bonding is an interesting concept to me and I think it fits into the mythos pretty well since combiners have already always existed.
if it were up to me, I'd have organic/bio headmasters would work by having a human or nebulan use cybernetics or a special exo-suit to plug into their own transtector. not sure how binary bonding would work though, maybe that could how you get a powermaster?

>>149917166
I really like this. having actual physiological differences between autobots and decepticons feels very G1.
Anonymous No.149918601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-y9cRcYgF4

did you know Beast Hunters was gonna have a different opening theme?
Anonymous No.149918624
>>149918225
all the classic golden age Mainframe era shows deserve the remaster. and considering i'm one of the few actual fans of Beast Machines, i really want that.
Anonymous No.149918760 >>149919559
>>149917807
It's an ornithopter
Anonymous No.149918835 >>149919559
>>149917807
Anonymous No.149918990
>>149917448
Heh, never read fanfics. I guess its an happy little coincidence.
Anonymous No.149919164 >>149919207 >>149919614 >>149922649 >>149926519
>>149901462
>>149901097
But there are better options.
Anonymous No.149919207 >>149920734
>>149919164
Help, how do I satisfy my robot gf?
Anonymous No.149919559
>>149918760
>>149918835
ah
Anonymous No.149919614 >>149919694
>>149919164
but i don't want someone who's competent. i want someone who sucks
Anonymous No.149919624 >>149919680 >>149931351 >>149931562
>>149914047
>JuneXOptimus, JackXArcee, CharlieXBumblebee, and PowerglideXAstoria
>forgetting the best one
Anonymous No.149919680 >>149931562
>>149919624
fuck I guess you can't post .webp files. it was Marissa Faireborn and Thundercracker
Anonymous No.149919694
>>149919614
Ah, so you don't want to look like dead weight by comparison. I see.
Anonymous No.149920484
>>149911520
these were the main reasons i was so excited for Animated back in the day knowing Spongebob and Patrick were gonna voice Transformers.
Anonymous No.149920533
no
Anonymous No.149920734
>>149919207
Get a screwdriver and reset her power fluctuators.
Anonymous No.149922175
Anonymous No.149922649
>>149919164
>fembot gf lets you hangout in her cockpit in robot mode
>safe vore RP ensues
Anonymous No.149924247
>>149821148 (OP)
>Remember when this was on Netflix.
yes
Anonymous No.149925138 >>149925267
>crazy bf megatron
Anonymous No.149925267
>>149925138
>bf
He wouldn't even keep you as a servant.
Anonymous No.149926519 >>149927287
>>149919164
who
Anonymous No.149927287 >>149928706 >>149930015
>>149926519
based on who?
Anonymous No.149928280
>it's peak
Anonymous No.149928706
>>149927287
whomst
Anonymous No.149930015 >>149931347
>>149927287
Based on what?
Anonymous No.149930889
Anonymous No.149931347
>>149930015
Anonymous No.149931351 >>149931562 >>149931726 >>149933406 >>149936699 >>149938041
>>149914047
>>149919624
No mention to StarscreamXAlexis? Ok...
Anonymous No.149931562
>>149919624
>>149919680
>>149931351
Those pairings are also awesome. I was only pointing out pairings off the top of my head, it wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list, just that TF/Human pairing smut is massively under-served.
>guess you can't post .webp files
Webp are truly a cancer and I'm so sick of them being everywhere along with Avif files.
Anonymous No.149931726 >>149936699
>>149931351
even Starscream's seiyuu shipped them.
Anonymous No.149932668 >>149933352
>>149917448
Nice cockpit, if you know what I mean
Anonymous No.149933352
>>149932668
flamewar my beloved
Anonymous No.149933406 >>149934646 >>149935185
>>149931351
will starscream ever have a cute little gf again
Anonymous No.149934428
Anonymous No.149934646
>>149933406
I miss kiss players
Anonymous No.149935185
>>149933406
Organics are for Thundercraker only
Anonymous No.149936699 >>149938041
>>149931351
>>149931726
JP's script was a lot more explicit between them
>one of alexa's last ending narrations became she will always believe in starscream
>starscream's line about protecting the kids becomes he can't let alexa die
Anonymous No.149938041
>>149931351
>>149936699
>You're all mine Unicron!!
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Anonymous No.149938894
>>149910825
>I also want to play War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron at some point, just have to figure out where to acquire those.
Whatever you do, do not buy the games. They're not worth the price of a new AAA game, even as a die hard fan of them.
Don't pirate the game from anywhere other than the internet archive or my google drive link as they're always missing content or are broken:
WFC: https://archive.org/details/transformers-war-for-cybertron
FOC: https://archive.org/details/transformers-fall-of-cybertron

My copies:
WFC: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XyXKP_Z32ftvqK44RGqaI8xy9zlyYHTQ/view?usp=sharing
FOC: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZRRXyey1EI9VJxSnxjiqUpcQtcMK4cda/view?usp=sharing