Thread 76490014

>Who is /fat/ for?
For prodigious pudges working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

Previous thread: >>76485212

>>76490014 (OP)
@broc is this true???

Good morning, frens. Stay strong.

>>76490062
Hello hatbro. Be good.

>>76490059
Is this from a different artist?

>had to stop my 10k steps per day due to hurting my leg for 3 days
It's all better now but I feel like I lost my momentum desu.

Hey, other Anon with the digimon digivice pedometer. It seems I finally finished it, took me 536,787 steps since June 19th to unlock everything. It was kinda a fun way to make my walks a little less boring by gamifying the daily steps and to track progress, but now its done. I already felt its absence on the second half of my walk today.

>>76490127
do 40k tomorrow to make up for it

>>76490130
good call

>weighted 61kg yesterday
>refeed of probably 3k cal above my tdee
>woke up at 64kg
its fine desu, I dont freak out when I see these massive weight changes anymore because I know I can lose it pretty fast

>>76490134
>61kg
anorexic, or manlet?

Had surgery two and a bit weeks ago. Think I've put on like 5kg since then.
Back on the diet tomorrow.

Was 200 last week, you guys can do it

>>76490141
manlet

>>76490150
Didn't know hobbits tattooed their feet???

Back to the gym today. I lowered my calories to account for the less activity and I only stayed at the same weight. I can't believe how much it changes my TDEE.

>>76490129
is pokemon go still active? I am just hoping you can find a replacement.

>>76490156
what's your goal weight? I'm also manlet and I'm down to 64kg now. Started at 78, just a few more to go before I hit my target

>>76490180
I dunno, I never played pokemon go, some anon in these threads posted their digivice so I got one too. It was crazy overpriced for being a dumb kids toy, but it did help distract me from how boring walking around for hours everyday can be.

>>76490181
my real goal was 60kg and I'm pretty lean already but still got stubborn visceral fat that doesnt seem to go away, I'd prob have to go as low as 57-58kg to lose it all but I'm not too happy with how flat I look right now, still got good muscle size but you can see that ur pumps don't last that long.

>1 day of fasting per week is good for you
>first day of fasting is also the hardest

>>76490014 (OP)
Google AI chatbot has been amazing for my weight loss and strength building.

Fatty Contest
BetterNateThanLever
217.2 lbs

Chalking this one up to water weight as I drank a shitload of coffee the past week.

>>76490227
yeah, may as well do a 72 if you're going to fast desu.

>>76490250
You should chalk it up to you being a fat shit

>>76490258
Me being a fat shit is why I lost 6.6 pounds in 6 days?

>>76490265
the crab bucket has returned. Fattie is angry because he is fat. Just ignore him.

You are clearly tracking and I don't follow the contest, but if you lost 6.6 lbs that is either dangerous or water. Good work if it is water.

>>76490150
Shave your feet for a free extra pound.

>>76490173
>>76490292
Cringe crabs
>>76490150
Good on you anon. You got this

>>76490250
>I chalk my weight gain up to diuretics.
Don't gaslight yourself like this man. It looks bad and its detrimental to your own wellbeing.

Finally, after 9 months on the list i can start TRT
I was here before and lost 30lb from 230 @ 172cm, aiming for 180lb now and i'll leave it there. I'm so relieved.

>>76490279
>>76490310
Grow up crab schizo

>>76490335
Sorry you're so upset

>>76490340
I am not sorry he is upset. I assume it is about his life and not my comment though.

>>76490350
>>76490340

>>76490340
Post body

>>76490403
>>76490340

if you had never gotten fat, how would your life have been different?

>>76490129
Just get a different digivice like the 15th, or get the D3 that's out this year.

That or a Pokewalker.

>>76490420
I wouldn't be here dealing with you fat losers

>>76490420
I would have been a massively improved version of myself
All the fat aromatizing testosterone to estrogen destroyed my puberty

>>76490321
Start HRT instead. Does wonders for your appetite.

>>76490420
I've needed 2 surgeries for about 8 years now. I would be able to breathe a whole lot better and wouldn't need to spend a fuck tonne on medication to breathe.

>>76490427
i often think that i might have become a worse version of myself. struggling with weight loss and fitness has made me stronger and more capable than i would have been if everything had been easy. a lot of bad things happened to me in my life. it doesn't depress me to think about it though because they made me who i am today and i like who i am.

>>76490420
Probably would have invested more of my time into mountaineering/rock climbing. My stamina has started to improve since I dropped below 90kg but it's tough to put yourself out there later in life with those kinds of activities

This is the most jewish bullshit I've seen (in the last 24 hours)
>0 calories
>but the "serving size" is ridiculously small
>1,500 servings per can
Like what the fuck? These numbers are useless. I'm "eating" like 40 servings every time I use this can.

>>76490574
Lots of things abuse the serving size rules. Tic-Tacs are basically pure sugar but they can claim it's zero sugar because a "serving" is 1 Tic-Tac and 1 is under the weight required to declare sugar content.

>>76490574
Go get a kitchen scale, and put a cup onto it then zero it, then count how many sprays you need to register 1g.

For my oilve oil sprayer its 4 sprays for 1g which is like 10 (8.4) calories, so I know every 4 sprays that's ~10 calories, or I can count 2.5, 5, 7.5, 10, 12.5, 15, ... and so on as I spray.

Hello,new fattie wanting to lose fat here,i've read the stuff and began dieting since two weeks,but i have some questions:
Is fasting one day in the week efficient ? How do i do it ?
How much is my sleep schedule going to influence my diet ?
And what influence salt or spices got on my diet ? Is it good ? Bad ?

>>76490685
>How do i do it
You don't eat for 24 hours

>>76490685
>How do i do it ?
STOP FUCKING EATING FATTY

>>76490685
If you're already on a deficit don't fast, it'll tank your energy levels to shit.
Sleep well otherwise you will feel groggy
Generally a good idea to have salt and spices in your diet since they taste good and provide nutrients

>>76490685
>Is fasting one day in the week efficient ? How do i do it ?
Yeah sure why not if you can stick to it and don't overfeed later, how do you do it? Just don't eat for a day
Sleep is overrated but still good, shouldn't influence your diet
And spices and salt make your food taste delicious, although personally I think salt is unnatural poison and the reason why everyone is so addicted to food

>>76490435
They are the same thing fatty.

>>76490698
>I think salt is unnatural poison
bizarre opinion since salt is an electrolyte and you'll die if you don't get enough but ok

>>76490698
>salt make your food taste delicious, although personally I think salt is unnatural poison and the reason why everyone is so addicted to food

>>76490790
Yeah but you get enough if you just eat normal foods, people live fine on 0 salt added diets

>>76490698
>salt make your food taste delicious, although personally I think salt is unnatural poison and the reason why everyone is so addicted to food
Holy fucking retard

your body pisses out all extra salt btw, all of the "science" behind salt being bad for you or causing high blood pressure or whatever bullshit (((they))) peddle is all bullshit

Big salt out here shilling again

>>76490858
Yes it certainly does, but why stress your kidneys with unnecessary work day in day out
Also (((they))) could be just as well part of the salt industry which is a multi billion dollar industry

>>76490878
were your ancestors "stressing their kidneys" when they preserved and cooked meat in pure salt
did the joooz trick them into buying more salt than they needed?

>>76490886
Jews have been doing jew things since the dawn of man!

>>76490886
Generally you didn't eat them covered in salt, that was for preservation, you'd first soak them in water to get most of the salt off first, then you'd cook them.

>>76490886
Depends which ancestors, the ancestors for the last 10k years or the ancestors for the last 1 million years?

>Literally anything happens
>Some /pol/tard
>IT WAS DA JEWS

>>76490895
>this natural mineral that preserves my food and has been used extensively by humans for thousands of years before obesity was even a thing is bad for you
let me guess, you think butter and red meat is also killing you? no problems with bugmilk and seed oils though right?

As soon as I go from almost class 3 obese to a healthy BMI my hair starts receding...

>>76490886
problem with salt is that its added to processed, premade and restaurant foods in large amounts (for taste balance) and you don't even notice it, it just tastes normal

>>76490912
Time to get fat again......

>>76490912
Less testosterone gets converted to estrogen so more gets converted to DHT
Welcome to being a man

>>76490902
>/pol/ causing you to shriek about it whenever someone holds small hats accountable
Owned

>>76490909
It has nothing to do with that actually, its just when you cover something in enough salt to preserve it it also becomes unpalatable, so again people would soak it in water to remove the salt before actually consuming it.

https://youtu.be/swdjIvy2xFU?t=701

Why can't I have a normal relationship with food?
I either eat too much or too little. For the rest of my life I have to diet and stay hungry

Anyone got a comp of before and after photos of people that were fatties and got got? Haven't seen those in a while and need a good reminder of what I'm fighting for.

>>76490950
*and got fit
autocorrect tweaking

I'm starting to get serious about weight loss again.
During covid lockdowns I ballooned up to 425lbs at 5'9"
using keto i got down to 290 around 2021 but since then i gained a fuck ton of weight again and got back up to 395. Its so fucking annoying as I don't feel like I eat that much and I get a sick feeling if I don't stuff my fat face until I feel full.

Anyway. I started just counting calories and trying to be right at 2k cals a day + putting in some miles on my under desk elliptical, at least 5-10 miles a day. Down to 382 as of this morning.
I think I can keep it up. if I can get back down to under 300, I want to try and get some kind of surgery on my stomach to shrink it. the hunger pains are terrible

optimizing micronutrients is a meme since your body literally evolved over millions of years to keep perfect homeostasis of those nutrients through various mechanisms

>>76491046
Not to be hater of surgeries but they can fuck you up and while they restick your calorie intake, in time fatties can still overeat and balloon back up. So doing to stop the "hunger pains" is retardet as fuck.

>>76491046
Literally just take mounjaro

>>76491067
19 bmi btw

>>76491080
Don't feel personally attacked, the point is that your body naturally keeping perfect homeostasis in a world full of processed and easily accessible everythings is simply a pipedream

Human stomach has pH of a scavenger
Salting for preservation? You are evolved to eat rotten meat

>>76491096
Then why does it make me vomit to smell old meat

>>76491091
>in a world full of processed and easily accessible everythings is simply a pipedream
yeah they fuck with your ghrelin pathways but as long as your diet somehow contains the essential nutrients your body will otherwise compensate

Today's tally up

2328 kcal
181 protons

yeah i dont know what the fuck happend today

>>76491101
Learned behaviour, modern day hunter gatherers think it's delicious
Swedes still eat rotten fish
Steak appreciators age the meat to bring in some of 'funky taste'

>>76491105
There are many nutrient toxicities if consumed in large qualities, you can even die from water in excess

Been about a month since my lifestyle change and dropped 12 pounds. Just eating my BMR and doing simple CICO with weight training. I like seeing line go down. Though I just started this app

>>76490697
Thanks for the advice,i'm trying to use one of the sites listed in the OP to track my food now,i used a journal for two weeks and didn't took in account every calories so now i will,i'm doing some swimming and simple exercises now since i've began,how can i improve that ?
>>76490689
I've heard of 16 hours without food and a meal in the other 8 ones,is it inneficient ?
But 24 hours with only water is manageable thought,thanks for the advice
>>76490696
Kys faggot
>>76490698
Everyone been telling me that sleep is one of the most important part so i wanna try to have a circadian cycle of sleep now
Well,that's your opinion but thanks for sharing an advice,anon

>>76490420
Would’ve enlisted straight out of high school

>>76490926
This is the only person I’ve ever seen with downs who isn’t fat.

>>76491206
>and didn't took in account every calories
If you do not fix this NOW all of your efforts to lose weight will fail
Count EVERY SINGLE calorie, be honest with yourself

Is a 15kg loss for a 5'7 80kg guy in a couple of months realistically achievable?

or am I shooting for the stars

>>76491358
couple of months could mean 3 months or 6 months

>>76491364
6 is not a couple

>>76491377
I disagree which is why you should give better descriptions if you want better answers

>>76491358
Two months no, three month in the other hand... no. Why do you need to drop 15kgs in two to three months?

>>76490129
>Hey, other Anon with the digimon digivice pedometer.
Thats me lol. I havent been playing it recently because I switched from walking to sprinting up hills. If you want something new, I recommend these.

https://www.zenintcg.com/products/digimon-d-3-digimon-detect-discover-digivice-25th-color-evolution-digivice-daisuke-ken-color
https://www.amazon.com/Bandai-Digimon-Digivice-Blue-Camouflage/dp/B0B13966QD?crid=1OLF3I6B3NBM4&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.S72Fxq_XQZMeg_XU3Dt7HmmtOXVpQIEuqc9hjy5hY-UPjsVwYfSesNNHNVO3tJWICQbEs9l3bec8a-oxYOr_q6wTuzpJaJkR7J30jnR2PorUMzRe4MMI78WE0guHi9gfl0gIwTjkIJ69ii9-WANH36irqBhx-SfQCjuxPXzIX4b-62sqF142o7XzcEIt8NIW3iN77007A7w0EAmo7P9SQg.Z86_Tr_2aORAFCHs6tnTBpKSaBRKKb45IQrUG_9em4I&dib_tag=se&keywords=digimon+x&qid=1754938475&sprefix=digimom+x%2Caps%2C162&sr=8-2
https://www.amazon.com/Digimon-Virtual-Monster-Tamagotchi-White/dp/B0FBHP6F8H?crid=1OLF3I6B3NBM4&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.S72Fxq_XQZMeg_XU3Dt7HmmtOXVpQIEuqc9hjy5hY-UPjsVwYfSesNNHNVO3tJWICQbEs9l3bec8a-oxYOr_q6wTuzpJaJkR7J30jnR2PorUMzRe4MMI78WE0guHi9gfl0gIwTjkIJ69ii9-WANH36irqBhx-SfQCjuxPXzIX4b-62sqF142o7XzcEIt8NIW3iN77007A7w0EAmo7P9SQg.Z86_Tr_2aORAFCHs6tnTBpKSaBRKKb45IQrUG_9em4I&dib_tag=se&keywords=digimon+x&qid=1754938475&sprefix=digimom+x%2Caps%2C162&sr=8-1

The first is the newest digivice model and is a preorder. The other two are the cheapest most accessible vpets. You can find them in other colors as well. Neither of them are backlit though. The backlit color models are much more expensive and will require a preorder or buying on the secondary market. I also recently bought a playdate which is a pretty niche indie console with a crank. Seemed like a good thing to play on the train during my trip to japan later this week or just in between sets on the gym. Just got it last night and its been pretty fun.

>>76491358
It'd be pretty difficult if you're already 80kg.
Not impossible, but you'd have to diet pretty hard, and exercise is going to cause you to gain muscle at that point.

You'd probably be better off switching to a lot of working out and keeping your current diet, convert your excess fat into muscle.

80KG of fat and muscle looks better than 70KG of just skinny fat.

>>76490421
I recommended it to him and I really need to pick mine back up. Nearly cleared the Virus Busters and Metal Empire pendulum colors, but I shelved them for a bit to focus on real life stuff. Really excited for my D3 to come on and have tons of devices on preorder. The godzilla ones, the new pendulum colors, the 2 older pendulum colors Im missing, and a digimon color 1 and 2. Barely touched my monster hunter color device, but thats because I plan on giving one to a friend in japan and raising them together while Im there.

>>76491385
>Why do you need to drop 15kgs in two to three months
need to fly to a wedding, need to lose weight to fit in an airline seat

>>76491454
How fucking big are you?

>>76491454
you arent that big

long time lurker just here to post progress. 5'11, 195lbs to 180lbs since april. ive been lifting, walking, and never eating out

>>76491484
>5'11, 195lbs
U weren't even fat in the first place.

>>76491491
Maybe he was wearing stilts when he got measured.

>>76491491
>>76491508
overweight by bmi even at 180 and most of my life i was a skelly build. trying to cure the 20 something beer build ive developed

Oddly specific question:

I have an old analogue food scale, but id like the get a digital one for sale of accuracy

One nice feature the old scale does have though, is that you can set it so that the dish you put on it to contain food is not included into the weight, so you can use whatever container you want and measure just the food. This is more or less just a matter of convenience, so you dont have to subtract the weight of the container every single time you measure something

My question is: do modern digital food scales have a similar feature?

>>76491432
thank you for saving me to type this.

>>76491491
/fat/ loss general, not fatties general.

Fucking gatekeeping fat loss, please stop

>>76491712
there is a "tare" button on 98% of them.

>>76490014 (OP)
>the snack demons are back
Did I *want* to kill a whole bag of Funyuns? No. But goddamn it, it's like I blink and this crap appears in my hands

It's actually frighteningly easy to just not eat.
Shouldn't my body be chimping out more on a 1500kcal deficit?

>>76491781
Depends on your physical activity level. IF I'm NEETing even if I'm doing shit at home I can fast ez. If I'm working then I get the shakes pretty hard.

>>76491781
Nah

i gained 2.9 pounds in just one week despite not overeating all that much
weight loss is a scam

>>76491800
>not overeating
>all that much
Denial? Or bargaining already?

>>76491800
>all that much

>>76491806
i maintained while eating a weekly total of 9,600 the week before. but last week i ate 12,700 and it put me up 2.9 pounds. I'd understand if i went up 1 pound but nearly 3 whole pounds??
does that not seem like bs to you too?

>Get hungry
>Eat an apple
>273kcal
>1658/1500kcals for the day
Dammit, didnt know apples were so caloric. Fuck.

>>76491840
What fucking apples are you eating? A 100g apple has 52 calories

>>76491840
what the fuck kind of apple is 273kcal

>>76491844
>>76491845
A 383g cosmic crisp apple.

>>76491859
>Amerislop apple
No wonder

>been dieting for 6 months
>down 20 pounds
>weight loss starting to slow: down only 0.5 lb in the past two weeks
>getting less disciplined on my diet
how do I find this motivation to keep going with this? I'm not at a healthy weight yet, but down to where I was 6 years ago

>>76491845
american apples are enormous and very sweet

>>76491800
>>76491823
>massive weekly calorie fluctuation
>no mention or consideration of exercise, TDEE, sleep, water weight
I bet you're not even weighing in with the same conditions, fucker is probably hiding a gallon of water and shit under the clothes he didn't bother to take off before randomly stepping on the scale mid-day, you are absolutely positively NGMI.

>>76490950
/fit/ used to have lots of images like this one. i wonder what happened. just a little reminder that inside every fat chick is a supermodel struggling to get out.

>>76491862
Cosmic crisp are the best, you're missing out.

>>76491886
sweet apples are cringe desu

>take 10mg of creatine for the first time
>explosive diaria shits all day
I guess scale be going down

>>76491877
>exercise
i dont work out and i keep the same routine almost every day, nothing in my exercise has changed from the two weeks so that wouldnt be it
>TDEE
using the first website that comes up on google, my weekly tdee is around 9,000
>sleep, water weight
same with the exercise thing, nothing between these two have changed even close to enough to have any effect on my weight.
>I bet you're not even weighing in with the same conditions,
incorrect, i weigh-in on the same day of the week, butt ass naked with the same scale and always after i use the bathroom and before i've drank or eaten anything.

I

>>76490014 (OP)
I got down below 170 lbs, feels good. but i think im still a bit fat, should i go for 160 lbs? im like, a bit over 6 feet tall

>>76491918
I have a small sour apple right here desu

>>76491866
I would consider a diet break where you eat at maintenance (NOT SURPLUS) for maybe 2 weeks and then get right back to your cut. If you've really been at it for 6 months, a small planned break might be good for you mentally.

>>76490420
I would probably trust women, bitches used to called me ugly and constrast me with my brother, but once i had hit puberty they were all over me

breaded...
and deep fat fried...

>>76491878
people will absolutely dog pile anyone who tries. Loose skin anon had his photo pulled from this thread and used for a couple of days in other threads.

>Take Mounjaro
>No longer feel hunger.
>At all.
>Eating becomes an intentional action
>Very easy to portion control, or simply not eat at all.
This is a very strange experience.

>gum infection behind tooth
>gonna have to get it removed
Good excuse to not eat for a few days. Scale will infact be going down.

>>76491878
based lass. how do you encourage your lady friends to be like her instead of getting their hearts all fucked up from excess fat?

>>76491977
Have that happen to me last month.
Being hungry but not able to eat anything was kinda awful. I mostly just got by on soup as my gum was too swollen for me to chew anything.

>>76491757
the trick is to eat an entire rotisserie chicken so that your stomach is too full to eat anything else. don't use sauce on it though, that's the trap.

>>76491930
up until now my diet hasn't been ultra strict all the time. Some days I'm not able to get accurate calorie counts due to where my food is coming from, so on the days I can control I've been targeting a 800-900 cal deficit to make up for the days where I have less control.The past few weeks I've been kind of lazy, like up to maintenance. I've also been so horribly exhausted the past month it feels like and I haven't had a solid 8 hours of continuous sleep in over a year. 4-5 hours a night is normal for me, and regular stimulant use (caffeine) has not been that helpful and is causing problems.

I feel like I *should* recalculate my TDEE and try to be a lot more strict, but part of me wants to give up and accept the loss of 20 pounds as enough.

>>76492008
who is eating an entire container of sauce

>>76491970
People aren't nice

>>76492027
Sleep disturbances are very common when in a deficit. My recommendation is to eat at maintenance for a week to see if you can get some solid sleep. Then in return your body will reward you with more willpower to stay on your diet and within your calorie goals.

>>76492040
Nobody said that.

>>76492042
Misery Loves Company.

I'd thought my thighs were merely fat but I lost most of the jiggle and it seems my quads are just huge.
I'm going to end up looking like an SS victim without doing a leg day in my life.
Can you spot reduce muscle?

>>76492095
Big quads and calves are like the only benefit to being a former obeast

Rate my progress.

>>76492128
which is the before pic?

>>76492128
No difference

>>76492135
The left one.

>>76492047
maybe you are right, but it's hard to shake off the feeling like I should be doing more

>TDEE calculator says my BMR is 1700/day which seems way too high
>and TDEE is 2900 which is bullshit
what did I fuck up on data entry here

>>76491878
Shes fat again, this image is old, old

>>76492040

me. i would have if i hadn't read the label anyway. i reluctantly ate only half the bottle (and one whole chicken) that day. then i started thinking that it would make a good comparison meme.

fat people don't understand why they are fat. they think they know how to count calories but they don't. the eat the sauce but they don't count the sauce and so they remain fat. they don't believe you when you say that nutrition facts labels are not always accurate.

i am no longer fat. i was fat before. i've earned the right to eat the sauce but even now i struggle to not eat the entire bottle.

and don't fucking fact check me and say that the "chik-fil-a honey mustard sauce" is only 60 calories per serving, this is the "chik-fil-a honey mustard >BBQ< sauce" and it's 160 fucking calories per serving and i distinctly remember what was written on the back of the bottle even though chik-fil-a seems to have scrubbed any evidence of the sauce's true caloric content from the internet.

the point of the exercise is that if you can humble yourself enough to eat the chicken plain, then you can eat as much as you want. who the fuck can eat TWO entire rotisserie chickens? i can't. but that's only 2400 calories, and that's 100 calories under maintenance for big fat guys.

>>76492128
your posture it better. 10/10. keep it up!

>>76492128
You wanna keep your back the same level of straight if you're doing side pics.
You've lost some belly fat, got less moob going on. Keep it up man.

>>76492128
You literally have the chudjack dave don't you

>>76492128
I would never think of posting pics until I have abs showing, idk what you people are thinking

>>76492208
>face
Not dave, auto correct is aids.

>>76492128
I see a difference. How much did you lose?

>>76492164
"Serving size" is often a complete joke and there are too many loop holes

>can of oil spray claims to be 0 calories
>because the "serving size" is a 250 microsecond spray
>and if a "serving" is under 5 calories it can legally be rounded down to zero

>"sugar free" candy
>sugar is the first ingredient
>because the serving size is low enough they could legally round it down

>sugary drink bottle/can
>it's two servings, sometimes more

>>76491970
That was me, I didnt mind.

>>76492163
Proof

>>76492164
it varies by person. I don't count dip for my veggies. I buy reasonable dip and let the number come out the wash. I eat 500g of carrots and not stress about tracking the dip. If the dip is screwing me then my weight doesn't go down and I lower my daily calories. I haven't done the math, but not much is beating the calories/g on that. I'll eat 750g of peas too, just fills me up. The real killer is veggie choice. Edamame is very high calorie/g and the protein gain isn't worth it.

>>76492328
I am glad. I want you to win.

>>76492341
Thanks, I wouldn't have posted if I wasn't ready for that. I probably gave many other fatties nightmares, not sorry for that part.

Post bodies

>>76492164
>who the fuck can eat TWO entire rotisserie chickens?
I know for a fact I can, becuase I used to do just that. Plus mac and cheese, plus corn bread, from Boston chicken. Loved that meal. They went to shit though, Boston chicken used to be so good.

>>76492377
You first

>>76492377
u first

>>76492164
>who the fuck can eat TWO entire rotisserie chickens?
ENTER

>>76492377
down 10kg (22lbs), 97 to 87 (213 to 191) since June 1st
CICO and running 3 times per week

>>76492424
Do you shave, or are you just that hairless?

>>76492424
im a girl and i have like 3 times more hair than you

>>76492128
Good progress. Keep going!

>>76492426
>>76492435
just genetics, can't grow a beard or even a mustache
got the good hairline at least, father is 80 and has norwood 1 still

>>76492443
>80
70*
shaky hands, mb

Is coffee really as bad as some people online say it is? I feel too lethargic to get anything done while eating at a deficit and I know caffeine will get me to stop vegging out.

>>76492457
just drink energy drinks instead, sugar free red bulls are like 20 calories or less

>>76492457
If you cut out all the caffeine you'll break your addiction in like 3~4 days and that lethargy should go away.

>>76492443
age plays a role in facial hair. In my 20s I needed to shave only twice a week. Mid 30s, if i don't shave every day it looks pretty bad. I am pretty sure I could grow a beard if I let it go for a few weeks

>>76492457
caffeine can cause nausea and a lot of other effects but regular stimulant use causes other problems I believe. When I have a lot of caffeine I feel more energetic, but not less tired, and I'm not able to focus on things, and the crash is bad. I've been using energy drinks for a while and I am starting to really not like how I feel with it.

>>76492474
coffee is negligible amounts of calories if you don't add cream or sugar to it

>>76492443
Nice.
If I ever start going bald, I've got like 4 hair transplants worth of chest hair they can use.

>>76492492
coffee already tastes like ass with all that extra add-ins, i couldnt imagine how awful it tastes without them.

>>76492492
>age plays a role in facial hair
it's 100% genetics, same shit in all males on my father's side, everyone is clean shaven because the best everyone can get is a shitty stubble a week in

hey anons, i woke up at 16:00 like a degenerate and i ate two boiled eggs, a small portion of cheese, a pepper, a glass of milk and a cooffe. that gave me less half a pound, is this a good breakfast routine?

>>76492517
u are not in the military, use normal time

>>76492518
Im somewhere worse, where God doesnt look over anymore.

How do I tell if my fat is actually fat and not just a shitload of loose skin bunched up

>>76492613
Are you deflating or shrinking?

>>76492613
Loose skin usually looks kinda wrinkly.

Its also much thinner when you squeeze it vs skin+fat.

>>76492613
try to pinch it with two fingers and fold it onto itself
if you can accomplish this, its loose skin
if not, its fat

>>76492613
watertight

it isn't worth checking, but it will tell you.

I feel light headed and am shaking so it's time for my second and last meal of the day

>meal 1
640 2x steamed bun
10 energy drink
~60 single serving fruit cup (I dumped the syrup so it might have been less)
50 individually wrapped small cookie

>meal 2
520 2x frozen chicken patties, baked
~250 1 cup leftover rice
~10 green onions
~20 2tbsp onions sauce
35 15g of boiled seaweed rice seasoning (haven't tried it before, maybe it will be tasty)

>1595 total
calculator says BMR is 1700 but that's too high and not possible

maybe I should eat only half the rice

>>76492732
the calculators are programed in mind that you are less active than whatever option you tick. there's a built in buffer, and you're adding in your own personal one as well.\
you need to ease up on your shit, or recognize you need to be more mindful of eating with purpose

>>76492732
>10 energy drink

It should be 17000 calories

>>76492760
sorry anon I should have specified

>10cal 1x energy drink
not
>10x energy drink

I'm about to meet my long distance GF for the first time, bad time to start creatine? Will bloated be noticeable?

>>76492740
>you need to ease up on your shit
I haven't been to a doctor to measure what my BMR actually is, but when I eat less than 1300 in a day I really feel like complete shit

In HS I was taught you raise the weight when 3 sets 10 reps becomes easy and you just do 3 sets of 10 reps moving up the lightest weight(s).

I heard I'm better off dropping to 5 reps when I increase weight and working upto 10 reps, and then back down to 5 again when 10 is easy.

I have muscular issues, poor motor skills and hypotonia so building well balanced muscles is my priority. What should I do?

Fatty Contest
memediet
100.4kg

However after the weigh in I had a horrible horrible horrible binge eat fuckup probably 5k calories
I hate it so much when my brain just shortcircuits and I keep eating and eating and eating

>>76491454
You posted this last week..how much weight have you lost since your first post? If the answer is 0kg, ive got some bad news for you

>>76491454
>need to lose weight to fit in an airline seat
bullshit

>24.9 BMI
fucking made it lads

>>76492958
Grats, next stop abs.

>>76492958
Proud of you, anon. That was me like 6 weeks ago. Everyone here is doing great.

Like the other anon said, next stop abs.

Not a terrible start, if I do say so. Honestly, logging this shit makes things so much easier. I kinda hate myself for not doing this sooner when I weighed like 20 lbs less. Would have saved me a lot of time, effort, and self esteem... well, what's left of it. It's actually kinda crazy how much food I was eating before, but I really think it was the booze that kept me from losing weight. Even non-alcoholic beer has like 60 calories in it... Oh well.

>>76493083
whats the purpose of noting the weekday, isnt the date alone enough?

Fatty Contest
BeefyWeiner
188.25 lbs
5'9"

>>76492981
>Grats, next stop abs
next stop, ascension from humanity

>>76492845
You want the bloat. What little muscle you have will bloat in better spots.

More than likely a nothing change, but creatine goes in muscle, not fat.

If you are just starting, make sure to hydrate. Good sex is sweaty and you don't want to get dehydrated if you are taking multiple shots on net.

>>76493089
nta, but weekend calorie maintenance is difficult AF compared to weekday. Accounting for friends and not being in my home takes a lot more work.

I am craving buttery popcorn. I am going to drink two glasses of water instead.

>>76490014 (OP)
I think my brain is broken anons, I've been so fat for so long that I don't even understand what's too much food and what isn't.
I was about to rant cause "I see all of these videos online of people eating huge meals and it's like 1800 calories a day and I'm here eating 2000 calories and I feel I'm eating nothing"
Then I looked at my first meal:
120g canned tuna
100g green peas
100g cooked rice
100g steamed broccoli on the side
And realized that's almost half a kilo of food in a single meal, like 1 pound of food, it's like a huge bowl that I eat with a fork while watching a movie like the fucking disgusting obese pig I am.
How do I fix that? Is it even fixable?

>>76493210
theres no trick to it, you simply have to learn to feel hungry

>>76493210
more fiber helps to feel fuller with less food
"oats and squats" has bee the mantra for a long time but oats taste like shit
salads aren't so bad as long as you take care not to load them with extra stuff... a little bit goes a long way when it comes to taste

>lose over 110 pounds, sitting around 168 at 5' 10
>still obsessed with weight loss
>but maybe don't need to lose weight
>still lifting and walking/jogging/running
>but eating at a deficit
>but don't know if I should
>might not be eating right
>cut anyway
Have I driven myself into some kind of mental illness?

>>76493323
If you have the chance ask a wrestler/fighter if they think they are anorexic.

>>76493250
>>76493259
Thanks anons... I'm actually eating really well and varied, I'm hitting 2000 calories, 160 grams of protein, healthy shit like sardines and eggs and even miso soup for those probiotics... but I still want to CONSUME, I need to eat, I think about eating and I feel like I'm not eating anything... it's like I have this big void and it NEEDS to be filled with food.
I feel I should see a shink or something at this point cause this shit is clearly mental.

>>76490420
my dick would be at least 1 inch longer and not partially buried by fat

>>76493323
Sounds like after a long battle you've hit "good enough" and are losing motivation which is leading to uncertainty about what to do next, there's nothing mentally ill about that.

My complete lack of impulse control (possibly made worse by ADHD) means I've made basically 0 progress trying to cut. I'll be going steady for a few days.

Then, I'll either get a little too hungry or come across some snacks bought by family and I just can't really hold myself.

What the actual fuck can I do to get around this bullshit brain and urges

>>76493095
I look like this

>>76493402
Adderall should help with all your problems. It’ll blunt your hunger a little and you can use the motivation it gives you to lift.

>>76493611
I'm supposed to be on atomoxetine currently. I tried adderall years ago, didn't like how it worked. Before then I was on ritalin for years since I was a kid.

But is medicating really my only option? Sounds dumb but I don't want to have to admit that.

What does /fat/ think about eggs, specifically hard-boiled ones? Are they a good use of calories on a low calorie (1500) diet, or are they not satiating enough?

i upped my intake by 100+ calories like 3 times today, my pride is hurt but i know future me will thank me since this means i'll be a lot less likely to binge on slop again

>>76493633
It's hard to go wrong with eggs, just don't slather them in butter

>>76493402
I mean you already admit your brain is bullshit. Some people brute force themselves into good habits and get around needing meds. If that doesn’t working for you you’ll realize that soon enough. I would learn to stop worrying and love the pill.

>>76493633
The literal best thing you can eat. Especially if you find a farm fresh egg supplier. Dem orange ass yokes.

>>76493650
That feels too far for me. Sometimes I’ll have two eggs (140 cal) and feel less full than I do on one protein bar (180 cal).

>>76493646
>stop worrying and love the pill.
ngl I think it's something literally kinda like this. I've been on ADHD meds for like 18 years now, and I've always hated the idea that I was dependent on them.

I've also kind of had the idea put in my head from people around me that I shouldn't want to have to be on meds for the rest of my life.

>>76493663
So have more eggs bro. Have as many as you wan't you are not going to get fat eating eggs. I usually eat 4 and its 24 grams of protein and its not just high quality protein it is the highest quality protein that there is. And eggs have all the vitamins except C. You will be filled up on micro nutrients.

>>76493677
Yeah you should get over that. Think of the kid of in the wheelchair who said “I’m not confined to my wheelchair, I’m liberated by it.” I would have failed out of college and would probably have 40% the salary I do today without amphetamines. I don’t care. I’m grateful they exist.

It’s not even that uncommon. So much of the world uses caffeine to get going it’s included as an amenity in all but the cheapest hotels and provided for free in offices. You know investment bankers are notorious for drug use to keep going. Trump is allegedly dependent on adderall (supposedly the cause of his sniffing).

>>76493682
I won’t get fat but I could miss my calorie goal. They either help or hurt and I’m not quite sure. A large egg is 70 calories. Is there a more satiating 70 calories I could have?

>>76493699
No the egg is perfect. I bet you arent hitting your protein are you tubby?

>>76492474
>Is coffee bad
>Drink something with four times the calories, that's way more expensive, with artificial sweeteners and less caffeine
Why do people do this? Why do people just post random nonsense instead of actually answering the question?

>>76492517
>that gave me less half a pound
What

>>76493717
i can tell youre over 30 years old by this singular post of urs alone

>>76493730
I can tell that English isn't your first language and you're under 18 years old by the fact that you abbreviated the word yours and the linguistic mannerisms you use

>>76493730
>urs

Isn't typing like this from the days of T4? Back when cell phones didnt have full keyboards and you had to text with the number pad. Only 30+ year old boomers would use "urs"

>>76493699
3/4ths of a scoop of quality protein powder will be 3 times the protein at the same calories. Besides that, you could have something like three ounces of chicken breast, but otherwise you're not going to get much better than eggs

>>76493737
im american and 20, almost 21, why would i need to perfect my typing when replying to some random retard on an anonymous board?
i can tell ur old too, fag.

>>76493747
Sorry you're so upset, dude.

>>76493747
You talk like a retard and your answer was retarded.

>calculate sedentary TDEE for height at BMI 22
>eat no more than that many calories per day
basically all there is to it, isn't it

I'm going to stop consuming artificial sweeteners. Thoughts?

>Ended my 50 hour fast weighing 124.4 pounds (I'm back at 126 after refeeding)
>Had the most horrendous shit of my life afterwards (it smelled like fish and blood, didn't hurt tho)
>Had some taco bell goyslop today as a "treat" and it tasted so bad I couldn't finish it
Fasting is always an adventure

>>76490946
I think God wills that we reinforce our virtues in the measure of the difficulties he presents us. My relationship with food isn't healthy right now, but it no longer controls me. I have merely become its master rather than be its slave, but ideally I do believe in the future I will restore a better relationship closer to that of friends, where I can honestly walk down the street, smell something good and entertain the idea of going inside to buy it, rather than reminding myself today is a fasting day, or that I have already eaten, or that I already have planned out my meal for the day, etc. It takes a lot of time, as far as I can tell.

>>76493633
Soft boiled eggs is my go to for weight loss. I will eat 12 eggs over the course of the day and nothing else. They are legit the most satiating food I know. I don't know if hard or soft really matters but it shouldn't.

>>76493817
I haven’t had any sugar or artificial sweeteners in 3 weeks and I find myself craving diet soda snd energy drinks even more than extra food.

>>76493210
This was me a month ago eating 2lbs of ground beef in one day and not realizing how much food it was.

>>76493830
height?

>>76493210
stop eating the rice and eat twice as much tuna instead.

>>76493872
5'7 >>76487576

>used to weigh 200 lbs
>decide to cut weight
>drop easily to 155
>after that go on bulk+cut cycles
>now 175 and want to drop to 160
>cannot lose the weight for the life of me
Idk why it feels like losing weight has gotten so much harder. Its like the more I do it the more willpower I lose

I rate my night's sleep as Guantanamo/10.
Any tips for sleepmaxxing on a heavy deficit?

Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 111.25 kg

Overall progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYYYew8CUI

>>76493902
Nice job, always posting and making honest constant progress.

>>76493902
By the way I remember listening to that song in my garage gym while I lifted VERY early on in my fitness journey. Now Im fucking ripped and about to enjoy a nice long vacation and 2 giant eel and rice boxes as soon as I touch down. I wish the same for you.

>>76493663
I am up to 7 and I have to limit myself there. 396g of goodness. Part of that might be that I am having a hell of a time meeting my protein needs and limiting my calories.

>>76493677
Most people with diabetes people don't need their insulin. They can run high blood sugar and die of a heart attack at 50. Everyone just tells them to lose weight and they can be free. Thing is sometimes the genetic lottery says fuck you.

To me ADHD meds are the same as insulin. Yea, you should try to be stable, but your life is going to be a hell of a lot easier if you take the pill.

>>76493920
damn I would crush some unagi right now

>>76493915
Thanks. WAGMI.
>>76493920
Thanks. Thinking more Calisthenics / (Assisted) Pull Ups / 100x Burpees everyday for now. You reckon yellow dude makes good advice?

>>76493920
I'm going to Japan for work at the end of the year and one of the first things I'm doing is going to my favourite eel restaurant in Tokyo, love that stuff.

>>76493920
>super good japanese restaurant near my house
>but an unagi meal like that costs $30
pain

>>76493920
if I was rich I would just eat unagi every day for every meal
tastes better than any wagyu and it has great macros

>>76494006
Eel is quite literally my favorite food and im not even of the opinion that japanese food is the best out there.

>random +.8kg
>next day -.9kg

is this just my body trying to demotivate me so i get some chocolate?

Well what do you know, I did manage to drop back below 100kg (for the first time in 5+ years) before turning 30, with over half a week to spare.
Next milestones:
>going from obese I to overweight (2.5kg to go)
>dropping under 200lbs (20lbs to go)
>reaching healthy weight at 75-80kg (20-25kg to go)
>uhhh fitness?
WAGMI my dudes.

>>76494040
day to day measurements are pointless because your body weight fluctuates greatly as a result of stored water / piss / food / shit

>>76493210
Use a small bowl.
Eat slower.
Don't eat while distracted.

>>76493210
The amount of food means nothing, only the amount of calories matters.

It is too warm, summer is a curse on this world. God I can't wait for autumn.

>>76494150
Just lose your insulation layer, fatty.

>>76492040
Any fatass would be able to

I have been skinny fat my whole life, what do?
>182cm
>84kg (low muscle mass)
>big thighs, belly
>barely any manboobs (thankfully)
>slim arms, boney wrists & hands
>genetically muscles attach high up on bones (calf's, forearms)
>Used to smoke and get high, quit a year ago
>28 yo at this point

It's not over til I die, enough doomer shit.
What is my best way forward?

>>76494236
Prime stats for recomp, eat around maintenance with 2g of protein per kg of lean body mass, lift 3-4x a week and do cardio on days off.

Divas little nuns are a miracle of the universe

>>76494236
what >>76494248 said but eat at a deficit
eat a shit load of protein, lift weights, and wait 6 months for results have fun

>>76494277
>but eat at a deficit
He doesn't need to lose much, maybe 200 kcal deficit at most. But I think maintenance (with TDEE counted for sedentary of course) should be enough.

the hardest part for me right now is waking up early enough to execute my goals. im not a morning person, but im trying to transmute myself into one.

>>76494310
there are smartphone apps like Alarmy that won't let you turn the alarm off until you get up and solve math problems or scan a barcode or something. It's a dumb, brute force solution, but staying up is easier than getting up in the first place

>>76494041
You got his bro

>>76494476
Got his what?

>>76494478
Ok

>>76494484
Schizo vibes

>>76494489
Ok

>>76494494
ngmi

>>76494498
Ok

>>76494310
Do me a favor and give this a try:
Calculate when you want to wake up. It's summer still, so you can have light while waking up, that'll help. Then subtract the time you want to sleep (say 8 hours). At that time force yourself to go to bed. No excuses. In bed, you don't get to use any electronic devices, no phone, tablet or tv. Maybe the first day or so add half an hour for "calmin down" at the start.
Even if you can't fall asleep because it's early, just stay in bed and wait for sleep.
Keep any blinds open so you have light when you wake up.
At your designated wake-up time, have a loud alarm ringing and preferably somewhere you have to get out of bed to pick it up, like your phone on a chair opposite side of the room or something.
First day will suck, you'll not be able to fall asleep fast and you'll wake up tired. Tough it out and keep up the routine.
After 3 days or so it should get much easier.
If you want, the first 3-5 days of this new routine, do not work on your goals in those gained early hours, use them to enjoy yourself. Take a shower, make a fresh coffee and egg and eat them on a balcony looking outside, make it enjoyable. That'll help feeling like it's a reward, rather than something hard to do only to be able to do more hard things after.
Good luck and wagmi.

128kg fatass reporting in. Any point in going to the gym?

>>76494532
Always. Avoid stuff that goes super hard on your joints, other than that, everything is fine.
As you get started, anything that gets your heartrate up is good, any lifting you do meanwhile is added bonus and also good. Make form your most important focus, if you can't do it with good form, lower the weight at first. You want to get used to the movement, feel as you engage the right muscles etc.
Once you have a baseline of fitness and don't get as winded from 5 minutes warm-up, you can reduce the cardio and increase the lifting.
Just remember that your main focus is the diet.
Gym speeds the weightloss up, but the war is won in the kitchen.

>>76494478
his bro

>>76494528
>Even if you can't fall asleep because it's early, just stay in bed and wait for sleep.
NTA but this absolutely kills me, anxiety spirals out of control real fast. I basically have to distract myself until I'm actually shutting down.

>>76493920
Damn, that looks really good.

>>76494558
I've always been able to fall asleep relatively quickly, so I can't say I know how it feels, but a compromise that may work are books.
Books on electronic devices don't count, e-ink like a kindle is fine, e-ink with android is not.
Bonus points if the book is a somewhat dry subject, no fiction novel or fantasy, but either something non-fiction (I read a lot of engineering or science related shit in bed) or if that's not your world then I found many historical books to be a good slow burn. The point is for it to be engaging enough so that your anxiety stays in check, but not so engaging you want to read it in one go like a good fiction book might be.
I didn't want to write out the stuff that comes to mind, so here's a picture of some of the books I physically own.
The blackened out ones would give away too much personal information, so I had to censor those.
Other than that, green is what I'd say perfectly fits the described nieche.
Orange might or might not depending on how easily you get sucked into those books. They are oten fiction but slower burns.
Red is a no-go as those are too engaging.
Some titles are german because I'm german, so for most historical works that weren't written in english to begin with I just buy whatever is cheaper, sorry for that.

A book that I don't physically own but is decent to read, especially in the context of /fat/ is "atomic habits" too.
But more than that, a lot of these are domain specific or books that interest ME or I feel like would benefit me. Best if you look for stuff that YOU want to read, these should just give you a rough feeling for the type I am talking about.

>>76494569
You should look up how to make teriyaki sauce, collagen anon. Then these are easier to make. Big issue with it is the large amount of sugar, but you can probably get around that by using a heat stable sweetener and some stock for bulk. Naturally with real teriyaki sauce the sugar caramelizes and thickens the sauce, so some starch would work as a compromise probably, you'll need much less starch than sugar and would still get it to coat the protein like that.

>>76494611
NTA but I'll try your suggestion of reading a non-fiction book before bed while trying to wake up at a certain time.
I'll post in /fat/ tomorrow how it goes.

>>76494647
Good luck. As I said, expect the first 1-3 days to suck still, it takes time to adjust to a new schedule. Wishing you all the best.

Good morning, frens. Stay strong.

two lifting days one after another was not a good idea on a 1500kcal deficit, even on a split
back to AxBx for me

>>76494709
nigga that deficit is insane. are you severely overweight? you're probably hemorrhaging muscle mass if you're sustaining this for longer than a few weeks

>yesterday
>109.8kg
>this morning
>110.8kg
okay, I really have to stop being retarded when it comes to salt

>>76494752
water weight doesn't matter nigga

>>76494281
I was at 187cm with my lowest being 85kg with no muscle mass and still quite a bit of fat on the sides and legs to go (70kg lean mass at the time), so at 182 you could probably cut another good chunk of fat. Deficit is the best course of action imhotbqh

>>76494750
Not really, I stepped back from the brink at 30 BMI and am a month deep into the plan.
And it's not THAT bad, I eat 1450kcal a day on average (with a good amount of protein) and lose ~1.5kg per week so my TDEE must be pushing 3000.

>>76490014 (OP)
>ballooned from 190 to 250 in less than a year
That's it, no more druk threads for me until I'm back to 10%

>>76494803
>alcoholic
>eats shit
>sleep is fucked too
>30 yo female
>still thin and looks decent overall
asian jeans are insane......

>>76494803
crazy she is still a stick after drinking so much desu

>>76494808
>asian jeans are insane......
It's fake

>few months on carnivore
>found out there's this huge japanese buffet 30 minutes from where I live
>it only costs $18 for an all you can eat lunch
>they have crab legs, shrimp, sashimi, steak
>I haven't eaten in ~18 hours
I am their worst nightmare

Found out 4 months into my weight loss journey that I'm diabetic. That sucks lol. hoping in a year I'll be at pre-diabetic glucose levels. Anybody have any experience with this? Any tips to make it easier?

>>76494911
You can't reverse full diabetus

>>76494941
you can reverse it through exercise and healthy lifestyle changes. which I've already been working on. I know I'll always have beetus but it can be managed without meds with weight loss + dietary changes after a certain point.

>>76494941
You can if it's type 2.

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>>76494941
Yes, you can.

Fatty Contest
timetolockin
211.63

Fatty contest
Nabby 272.2

>>76495014
So when are you going to lock in? You've been bouncing between 220~200 for like a year now.