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Previous: >>105709500

Move to Japan, there are still plenty of tech jobs there.

>>105717190 (OP)
I work for the government and do as little work as possible.

creatures

>>105717216
But won't you have to work crazy hours for less money

I'm about to start studying for an AWS cert, is the best studying resource still Udemy?

aws vs azure vs gcp

it do be like that fr

any SWEs making over 200k whose job doesn't want to make you pull your hair out more than once a week due to political/people reasons? Just trying to get a general sense since I'm looking to move and wondering what are the odds it stays the same or gets worse

>>105717541
Sirs I work at durgasoft making 200k ruppees and am senior ranjeet great work balance with needfuls

>>105717190 (OP)
i like how the windows logo is in the bin

Helped a coworker debug some performance issues. And i stole some of his code i had no idea how to implement on my own too. Pretty nice overall

learn a trade

>>105717190 (OP)
1995 = sovl
2000 = goat

glad i got a real tech degree

0 responses

>manager sends a message asking for an update on a development for a jira
>respond same minute "the dev is still working on it as of a few hours ago, but I can get a new update if you'd like"
>no reply
>next day manager tells me she was unimpressed with my unprofessional response, and that I should have immediately provided a new update instead of asking her whether she'd like one
Well fuck me

>>105718672
2000 is fucking gross
2015 is goat

>>105719535
why can't that bitch talk to the dev directly? she's the one being unprofessional.

>>105719571
You WILL comply with performative posturing culture

>>105717401
for work? Aws

for sane projects? Cloudflare Workers, you literally don't need more (except for emails)

For free tier Oracle Cloud

>>105719535
hush atlassian shill, no one will call them tickets jiras

>>105719736
You WILL use the brand name

>>105719741
>employyes addressed as CORPOers

big ick

35 year old from Uruguay here.
I earn $52,000 annually as a remote scrum master for a team of 10 "American" (pajeet) devs at a small company
Literally all I do is dailies and "unblock" retarded children-brained devs that don't know how to use google, this is like 1 hour of real work a day.

For the past 7 years I've been faking it at the same company and I know I could earn twice as much if I got a "real" job but I'm scared of doing real work
I'm actually terrified of having to work 8 hours a day

Is this as good as it gets for a south american scrum master or should I try to get a job at a bigger company

>>105719835
it wouls be as good as it gets, salary included, to a white american, let alone to you. You have no idea how good you have it.

>>105719835
>>105719922
serious (X) or sad
should be 5am in you are gay, why would a 35 year old shitpost at 5am?

>>105719835
status update since your last post?

>>105717269
And be forced to use ruby on rails
And fax your TPS reports

>>105719535
Lol, scrum monkey

>>105717269
No, you use hot soup processor and work crazy hours

>>105719959
still avoiding work but I can get you a new update later t.. after the weekend

if you like

>>105720278
that's not how t works, dumb spic

What is the current state of hardware KVMs? I had one like 10 years ago, and display lag was very noticeable and annoying. Has it got any better?

>>105719751
I hate it so fucking much. no, we are not family. we are not even a community. just a bunch of randos showing up for money.

>>105719535
shouldn't even offer another update. "still wip", and that's it. you raised expectations by even mentioning another update.

Im starting to really hate corporate tech world , i like tech , i dont want to hate it.

>>105717190 (OP)
it's been downhill since 1995. but at least you could switch to classic theme. now it's truly and irrevocably over.

>>105717216
Only for seniors

>>105719835
You must be a millionaire down there.
How are your living conditions compared to the other beaners there?

>>105720580
NTA, but Uruguay is fucking expensive, even by western standards.

>>105720599
amerilards have this weird idea that they're the most expensive country on earth and everywhere else is free, so they live their life thinking of retiring in tourist hotspots. Then they hit 50 and realize it's be cheaper to stay put than to go for the lifestyle they wanted because actually other countries are not that cheap. That's when they cry themselves to sleep and go live in some slum in thailand

>be europoor
>top 3 nation
>get tech job easily with only 1 semester of studying
feelsgoodman

>>105720655
Yeah, my first job search was basically half a month lacklusterly applying to random shit, and I got 4 job offers within that span lmfao

>>105720630
Buddy, come on. We aren't comparing the US to Germany or Japan or something. This is some random South American backwater country filled with brown people.

>>105720675
Case in point

>>105720709
You're brown

>>105720675
>ignorant
>arrogant
>unable to do basic research
yep, that's an ameritard alright

>>105720500
name 5 things you like besides the ez paycheck

>>105720278
ETA for production deploy? Call me after work to present status.

>>105720668
yeah. i am a frontend dev (no exp) and just learn everything on the job: either by googling or my project mates. I do self study a bit at home using roadmap.sh for frontend.

>>105720808
you are probably paid in buttons subsidized by some big daddy gov scheme though

>>105720801
Everything is done on my end. Get the lazy PM to actually test the stories so we can deploy. But oh no, it takes him a week after all the stories are done for him to get around to it.
Take it up with him and stop asking me.

>>105720813
nah I almost earn modal (in salary p/h). Tech is booming in my cunt. If you factor in that my country is old as shit, and i dont know shit, im doing great

Salary pbuh

Bro who says "I earn the modal salary" haha like what the fuck

>>105720846
modal is what matters not average. it is a sign of a high iq nation with economic literacy that it is a common phrase

>>105720886
Isn't it the median that is most representative of the "average"?

>>105720886
Modal means most common value in a set.
Surely you mean median salary you ESL retard.

>>105720886
>>105720917
Mode is a type of average. And it's a strange one to use measuring something as continuous as salary.

How are we coping fellow onsite cucks? Shits so boring ive started bringing in my own laptop with infinite phone data hotstop to study on the job in an attempt to aim for a job that isnt arbitrary about enforcing on site bs

>>105720947
where do you even find those jobs where you get to do nothing all day? wherever I work, it's always a shitstorm with deadlines for yesterday.

>>105720947
Ever since return to office we just talk about random stuff all day. Mostly video games. Sometimes our boss joins in for a good hour or so.
>>105720962
The federal government.

>>105720924
I mean the mode retards. It is superior to the median (and mean) when comparing yourself to society as a whole. Why would you not use the modus for salary... even the government uses modal salary and not mean or median.

>>105720993
Because I don't want my salary dragged down by the bulk of mouth breathers that get paid minimum wage

>>105720993
> The numerical value of the mode is the same as that of the mean and median in a normal distribution, and it may be very different in highly skewed distributions.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_(statistics)
>An example of a skewed distribution is personal wealth: Few people are very rich, but among those some are extremely rich. However, many are rather poor.

>>105720962
I work at a pharma megacorp in the process of being raped by jeet outsourcing and profit shortcuts everywhere so even the simplest things get blocked for hours if not days

>>105721006
THE MODE IS THE MOST COMMON VALUE... minimum wage has no impact on it unless most common wage is minimum wage (it is not so)

>>105721011
today i learned i was wholesome keanu chungus years old when i learned i have been conflating median and mean

>>105720411
Yes but expect to spend 300$ for a Belken KVM.

>>105721023
It does because Noseberg will always try to under pay you

>>105721023
who would want to earn most common salary when working in tech? why even compare yourself to common plebs?

>>105721066
>>105721060
if you have 0 years of exp, and you just start out in a field where you are at the bottom of every metric, you want the mode. If you earning modal income at age <24 you are killing it.
Only when you farmed enough xp points and start jobhopping you want to use the mean (or percentiles of your field)

>>105721066
He earns less than common plebs, hence looks up to them
>>105720833
>nah I almost earn modal (in salary p/h)

>>105721095
i am 20 and earn almost the same as the 45 year old fossils. the best comparison as starter is simply modal as you get low xp and are a low lvl. Once you complete the schooling tutorials do you want to use means and percentiles.
Sorry that low iq people can't understand the relative utility of statistics! Very, sad. Ouch!

>best country in the world
>ma of an top10 uni
>10+ years experience
>arcane domain knowledge
>portfolio of impressive coding work
>raving testimonial of the last employer
>top references
>10 applications
>0 responses
hehe

>>105720917
Median is the middle of the linr value and is skewed by group inequality. Average is skewew by group magnitude which is even worse. Mode is a true commonality measure. For example in a country where 49% are minimum wage but the 50% percentile is 4x that and the 1% earn 100000x that, the mode will be minimum wage, the median will be 4x minimum wage, and the average will be something like 1001x minimum wage.

>>105720993
So you're on less than the median and mean?
And this is a good thing?

>>105720932
salary is continuous but earned salary is discrete because people are discrete

>>105721127
>only 10
child
you've never worked before

>>105721156
you don't know that, it depends on the distribution shape which is multimodal

>>105721127
I recently got a job after sending 0 applications, but my strategy was to sit on my ass doing nothing until some headhunter finds me on linkedin. it worked, but took 10 months.
t. 20yoe

>>105721127
>10 applications

>>105721208
I need 12 per month for getting benefits

>>105721195
pics or it didn't happen

>>105721282
Aus?

>>105721344
He said best country in the world

>>105721400
Yeah, Australia

>>105721284
seniors still get pitches. they are just mostly shitty.

>>105721400
Sweden?

>>105721442
Lol no. Larp harder.

>>105721400
best in the same way as North Korea is best

>>105721411
>>105721467
>>105721482
you are all wrong

>suddenly getting tons of tech recruiter spam

is the market healing?

>>105721506
tarrifs are expected to come.down and jpow is getting fired which will cause rates to go down, so yes.

>>105721506
Are recruiters even worth? They sound scammy.

Huge tech layoffs are coming this year. You think last few years were bad? They were nothing compared to what's coming. We'll see some companies cut 25-50% of their developers. Market's about to be flooded with 200k+ tech workers. Amazon alone is going to layoff another 30,000
Screencap this

>>105721475
sorry you're not getting any action, anon

>>105721518

No but it's a canary in the coal mine thing, if they're active then someone is paying them

>>105721527

>>105721518
99.9% are scammy and the good ones can't comprehend words

>>105721492
No you're wrong

My career so far (I'm 27)
>a few years fucking around with a buddy as a "startup"
>1.5 years as a working student
>1.5 years full time
>1.5 years full time at job #2 with 30% more salary
How retarded would it be to job hop again? I'm getting paid really well especially for my age (apparently I'm just really good at what I do according to everyone), but I recently found out I have basically zero prospects of doing a career climb in my current job. They're even so retarded as to hire external people for those higher positions
My current plan is to work a little bit more but already start looking around. Or is this dumb?

Do you ever have casual conversation with your manager?

>>105721765
I do recruiting. Honestly, if I don't see the guy hopping jobs that's a major redflag for me, must be lazy af.
@27 you should have like 2-3 hops tops until ageism catches up to you and opportunities start dwindling, make the best of them

>>105721765
you should be job hopping every 2-3 years, more often means employers won't touch you because you hop too much and less means you're just losing earning potential

>>105721775
I always have stock conversations loaded ready to engage. Usually one of family/cars/traveling/tv gets them and they start talking about themselves

>>105721798
Guess that means I'll be stuck for a bit here then. FUCK

>>105721798
A few years ago the benchmark was 1-2y lol

Looking to jump into a Network Engineer or a NOC center position, but a lot of the openings I'm seeing are contract-to-hire. I've always been a W2 employee, what should I be aware of?

I would want to be in a job for at least around 18 months before I moved, but I have nothing to justify that number

>>105721765
Basicly after 1-3 years once you gain enough experience on your resume to move out for a better company. If your getting paid really well for your location then sitting tight does not hurt since you can do an internal recruitment to someone else who leaves the company. That is the key to networking within the workplace. I have about a dozen people in my company and a dozen more within my customer network who want me to move to there new companies. However they don't pay as well as my current position so I will keep them in my back pocket and try to hire my customers or friends friends to keep the network strong.

>>105721854
Its over

>>105721854

It's always been ~3 iirc. That's what I usually shoot for minimum. Although this latest place is terrible so who knows.

>>105721765
You're telling me, man.
My biggest fear with hopping is that it's hopping into the unknown. My job right now is super comfy and I actually enjoy going into work each day.
It'll be nice to make more, but just the thought that it's all a gamble on who I'm working with, or what I'm working on, or the deadlines I have to manage. It's scary to my stuck-in-my-ways routine.

>>105721874
If your going full contractor then you need to double or triple your rate. Besides you need to cover your own medical, dental, vision and any other tax bullshit. If it's for a contracting company then not much different infact sometimes you even get paid better than direct hire employees but that is not a guarantee.

>>105721887

If you make enough just don't. Just don't. It's getting worse out here and if you're comfortable just ride that out. I make more than I ever thought I would and yet this place is agonizing.

>>105721880
The problem is I'm not gaining any leadership experience in my current job.
Getting a leadership role also seems to require leadership experience, so the only way to get to that seems from an internal career climb.
So I feel like I'll be stuck in senior hell forever and I fucking hate it.

>>105721887
wait 3 years get your masters degree in whatever and the market should improve by then. However like other anons have said its OVER

>>105721882
You must be 18 or older to browse this site

>>105721910
correct but that's how tech works nowadays. You need 0 pro exp and 0 tech knowledge to get into leadership, if you have more than that ypu'll be capped at senior

>>105721946
It's a fun meme but that's objectively untrue. When I said leadership I meant stuff like tech leads, staff engineers, etc.
Not literal execs and VPs and so on

>>105721989
NTA but its the truth across all industries. You either get your MBA/Masters degree in another company or you fail up by being mediocre and going to golf with your boss.

>>105722005
I do actually have a business-adjacent degree.
Which makes the whole thing even more annoying to me, HOW THE FUCK DO I GET INTO LEADERSHIP REEEE

>>105721932

Brother for Gen X and boomers the concept of leaving a job before 5 years was foreign. Tech invented serial job hopping.

>>105722017
Just keep applying. If you have 1 thing relevant then you need to apply anyways. You simply never know if there willing to bite. Also your local job market sucks so be sure you are ready to move if they give you a real leadership position.

>>105721989
Anon, I...

>>105722116
What is it? I'm not saying tech leads are better than all the people they are managing. But so far the teach leads at every company I've been working for had either more than enough programming experience or they were very talented fast risers.

I just realized that if I quit or get fired, a lot of important dashboards, notifications, and functions immediately start working because they've ignored me asking to get shit done on a group account.

>>105722144
Stop embarassing yourself please

Is every country's hiring process as bad as the UKs?

First hurdle, some non technical recruiter, probably a former sales dick
Second hurdle, HR Cat Lady that would rather hire a woman because she still listens to the Spice Girls and tags all her posts with #girrrl-power
Third hurdle, some boomer manager from a non technical background who only cares how much a servile serf you'll be
Generic take home test
Forth, finally you get someone technical, but it's a four eyed limp wristed gingerbearded soi cock with a shelf of funkopops behind him that's been with the company ten years

>>105722203
yes.
Consider yourself lucky to even get the interview

>wanted a chill friday
>now everyone's deciding oh fuck we have fires everywhere, let's actually try fixing things now
ngl i do miss my last company's "no meetings" fridays. didn't really get into a role where I'm constantly back to back until now so I didn't appreciate it but now I understand it.

>>105719535
don't worry, you just have a shit ass boss. most everyone does. it's not your fault, remember that.

>>105722231
I miss my last job's summer hours, no timecard bullshit and actually working on real code.
my current job is basically shoving shit together written by pajeets that basically just move memory around.

sadly the grass always seems greener, but whatever. as long as I'm learning, I'm happy. so far all I learned is corp javajeet shitware is junk.

>>105722231
Same anon all my issues happen on the weekend I am going to kill my vendor for there shitty programing and the server team for managing the crappy hardware in their data center.

Im the anon that did the capital one assessment of four LC problems (1 easy, 2 meds, 1 hard) in 1 hour time limit I had to do. I'm glad I failed. I'm tired of humiliation ritual assessments. Waste of time.

>>105722325
Meanwhile, here's the job description:

What the fuck does LC have to do with managing backend that I have 10 years of experience doing on the job?! And you auto reject me because I can't do an assessment?! This is why I dont want to cold apply anymore.

>>105722203
I want to know if there is literally any other type of job that has these crazy long and tedious hiring processes.
Only reference I have was back when I was working dead in jobs and they just did one interview that lasted 5-15 minutes.
Like what do finance guys do? Nurses? Mechanical engineers?

>>105722341
>internship experience does not apply
Jesus christ they just keep chipping away.

>>105722203
Atm, unfortunately. Indians have ruined our industry and it's going to take a bit for retarded execs who are coked out going on vacations to realize it's a mistake to outsource.

>>105722363
It's fucking rich, isnt it

>>105722341
>senior
>but minimum requirement is three years

what? I thought it took longer to be considered a senior

>>105722358

Our role isn't properly credentialed or regulated. The education/licensing side is a free for all, so employers turn towards these strict performative hiring ceremonies to filter out all of the phony retards.

Unfortunately, their filters are bad as well, so it actually helps a certian kind of phony retard (math autists that excel at LC puzzles but can't do much else).

>>105722341
>senior
>ba
>3 years
senior lost all meaning

>>105722374
Yeah 3 years is normally mid.

>>105722358
Fintech is like that but that's because it's tech. Finance is very easy but does have prob&stats teasers that are a bit like lc (but unlike lc, totally solvable by first principles). Nothing else is like that, everythijg else is just a chat where people get a feel for your ability based on how you describe previous work and the difficulties and solutions you might habe dealth with.

>>105722363
It's always been like that in my experience

>>105722388
nta but to comment on this, you are absolutely right. LC puzzles dont test for anything realistic. It's basically saying

>hey, unless you're a great chess autist, you can't get this job where you'll be chasing bugs all day or supporting dumb customers/ internal associates to get a requirement met

Something most of these autists suck at. Yes, they suck, already had the conversation with both big tech and non tech workers. The problem also is that all these business jocks don't understand technology. They never did. To them, it might as well be blue collar work, so they think they can do the same thing with say a janitor or secretary, and just outsource it for cheaper revenues. but now they're realizing that's a shit strategy, but because of the economy, they rather keep the ship sinking to keep their own profits up instead of dealing with the productivity issue in the engineering department.

Unfortunately, I think this time there will be no cycle of things returning to norm. It feels like mad Max world where they really rather keep this as a business structure. They simply hate paying software engineers real wages anymore.

>>105722374
Why do you indians think that?

>>105722422
Unfortunately even non tech companies have been using assessments. I did a construction company assessment and it was a programming puzzle. It's mostly cause of the indians mass applying, so even non tech companies are going toward using LC to filter out people, despite not knowing why they exist to begin with

>get a call from boss at 9am as soon as I login
>blah blah blah blah blah something blah blah blah
>going to set a meeting with other teams
>books meeting at 9:30am
is it reasonable to be a little annoyed at this? he seems to do this a lot. lots of cold calls, lots of just impromptu meetings. shit's so fucking annoying and it's easily meetings that could've been an email/message too. It's not even insanely 911 style shit. Fuck man the thing that pisses me off too is I'll set meetings up with him days in advance but then he bends over and ditches or is insanely late to the meetings because "oh sorry talking to big boss here"

>>105722455
is he a jeet?

The illusion of free choice

>>105722446
kek
Jokes aside they DO use ai interviews and psychometric tests for fucking fast food jobs nowadays.

>>105722462
no fucking way

>>105722458
no, chinese. why is it a jeet thing to do? ironically my last boss was a jeet and he'd have more respect for my time.

>>105722460
Put a guy smiling in the back "Remembering better times and hoping to die"

>>105722475
foreigners lack social conduct and awareness.

>>105722435

It's why Indians and other foreigners thrive in LC. They're high on memorization/math and can simply note down all of the top 200, which repeat themselves in various incarnations. But outside of that they can't inductively reason about things, be practical, efficient, communicative, it's horrible.

The key to great software is the ability to interface between the business desires and tech constraints/possibilities, and to reason and think architecturally. None of that is really valued in interviews. Instead you grind little puzzles. It's like judging potential QBs entirely off of their combine metrics over stats and body of work.

>>105722460
being unemployed is the best time of my life. enough money and time to grind 12 hours a day on my own project to become self employed in the near future

>>105722491
Nah, he's a long time immigrant. I mean on one hand my previous boss was insanely fucking grumpy on the other hand my boss just seems into a panic every fucking 5 minutes. But going back to my question since I can't tell if I'm valid in being like "come on dude wtf" or am I just being a straight bitch?

>>105722460
Being underemployed

>>105722467
I know because I tried to get into those to not go bankrupt between 2 jobs. And yes, all the major chains rejected me.

>>105722496
Ive said it before but any skill you learn in LC is used less than 2% of the time on the job. As a software engineer, coding is less than 10% of your work (most is planning, communicating, and support). And any optimization you come up with is a library you write up and never touch again. So you just hired a guy who made one or two fast library functions and now all his use is gone. Which explains the quality fallout happening in all these big companes. In fact it was taught in school that pre optimization is one of the sins of programming, so me being a programmer from the 2000s am shocked to see such perverse of the programming methodology be twisted at the hiring level. Optimization always comes last because you can't figure out any bottlenecks or long term problems until after the code is tested and ran in production for a significant amount of time. Then it becomes a new task to profile and refactor/ improve.

Fuck LC. Fuck math autists. Fuck indians/ chinese, all of them. This is not the industry I worked my butt off to get in. now Im filtered out not because of my experience, but because I didnt learn the humilition ritual of LC puzzle lightning round assessments that are made just to make the HR and hiring manager people to filter the mass applications of indians easier.

Give me a fucking break.

>>105722397
so has junior, it also needs 3-5 yoe and a ba

>>105721798
>you should be job hopping every 2-3 years
yes, but it works mainly in the beginning of a career. once you reach senior/principal level, gains from hopping start to diminish.

>>105722601
thats why its important that you get into the career path you want to now before you hit that senior tenure.

>>105722460
just be rich, and you don't need to think about any of that

>>105722601
Idk I think it's more that non-faangs just have a rough salary ceiling. It's not that jon-hopping doesn't pay, it's that eventually you reach a point where only top 1% companies can boost your salary meaningfully

Wtf is a story point? Why does any of this matter with a kanban that is already over capacity?

>doing application
>pick your sex
>your gender
>your pronouns
>are you transgender

>>105722721
Sexy
Slender
Pro Nuns
Transistor

>>105722677

An attempt for businessfags to understand what we're doing or how "productive" it is since our work is virtual and not tangible

>>105717190 (OP)
I'm getting laid off in exactly a month.

I really hate filling out applications. There should be some AI that fills out all that bullshit for you. Nothing more infuriating than spending 15 minutes filling out race, sex, veteran status, etc. and then you get ghosted

>>105722789
Congratulations!

>>105721887
>and I actually enjoy going into work each day.
rare as fuck

>>105722792
there used to be but employers had indeed, linkedin, etc. stop autofilling applications

>>105722455
my boomer boss that isn't even my manager anymore does this

>>105720924
median is the least useful "average" metric though

>>105722792

Just remember anon, the harder it is to apply, the more retards and foreigners it filters out, as well as automated spam. I've learned to value the tedious applications as they tend to be more responsive.

>>105722460
Do whatever you possibly can to not pay rent while you're employed so you can just relax while you're unemployed.

>Meetings with boomers
>anon you're going too fast you have to go slower so everyone can understand.
>Meetings with boomers leading
>they're fucking so slow, they'll randomly talk about irrelevant things, overpresent that confuses our stakeholders, introduces stuff that causes friction to the dev.
Why are these old types so fucking slow man? They get mad because I blitz through the information but I try to relay the important shit, these fuckers want to give the full context and historical aspects of shit and I'm like why the fuck are we presenting this at a stakeholder meeting.

>>105722839
im just a support monkey but this is why i keep giant excel sheets of everything i touch

i just copy one line out of the table and it gives them so much information they regret asking

>>105722822
average is the least usrful

>>105722829
literally the exact opposite dumb pajeet retard redditard

>>105722829
not in my experience.

>work on a large codebase
>claude 4 sonnet just casually implements 1k+ backend API graphql resolvers with proper security measures against a host of vulnerabilities
I'm surprised, honestly the prompt was pretty mid but I do have good documentation md files that help it.. nonetheless, this thing went and updated over 20 files which would've taken me hours by myself. My boss is gonna let me fuck his wife now since the deadline is 2 weeks from now and I completed it on a Friday morning.

>>105722853
Little confused, what's an example lol

>>105722854
>"what's the average wage for this group of 10 people?"
>9 people make 10k
>1 person makes 100k
The median income of this little friend group is 55k and there is no problem with poverty among these people.

>>105722868
>>105722863

You're trying to argue that making applications EZ and streamlined makes it harder for jeet automationfags and spammers to apply? For real? This is why you're unemployed

>>105722873
Kek.
Pajeets literally day this and believe this.

>>105722882
I'm white and employed, nigger. I just haven't used AI until recently and I'm amazed at its capabilities.

>>105722878
the median of this group is 10k, inbred

>>105722873
Yeah, for easy workflows it's pretty good. It's definitely something you want someone to take a look at to review but people underestimating AI is crazy lol.
C suite overrating the growth though are fucking stupid.

>>105722905
You will never be white, pajeet.
You must have an iq around 70 to get any use out of ai. White people aren't that dumb.

>>105722880
Im saying that even the hard applications dont give any RoI back. You get rejected all the same, so it's not stopping at that level either.

>>105722918
adding to this it's like excel was made and boomers who don't adapt get fired but c suite level will lay off entire departments because they believe 1 guy with excel can do stuff 5-6 people can do and it's like are you fucking insane? I don't know why we're having a repeat of this when these morons are suppose to learn from history.

>>105722505
based, I'm glad I'm not the only one doing this. Good luck anon, I hope to enter production and release next year for this monster of an application I've built.

>>105722929
>when these morons are suppose to learn from history.
Maybe because they're morons?

>>105722874
example: someone asked me if i was busy imaging workstations to W11 and instead of just going "yeah i did 4 of them today"(i had lost count) i simply gave him a dump of our AD workstations OU with the osversion field highlighted

>>105722880
while it would make it easier for jeets if it were made easier for everyone, only jeets have the patience for intentionally bad processes to apply through things like WorkDay

>>105722929
visicalc is far older than excel, pajeet

>>105722325
What was this about? is in the previous thread kinda wanna read through what you had to do

/twg/, filtered by primary school statistics.

>>105722960
The median wage in the USA is like 20 million dollars, number is going up, things are fine

>>105722956
its from a thread on tuesday. you can find it in the archives

>>105722880
can you even read, pajeet?

I'll be honest, thanks to cursor they could probably hire half of my team. But we'd be overworked to shit constantly grinding tickets day in day out and that's where the mistakes creep in

>all these jobs gaslighting me that Im not a senior as I get email rejections

>>105722960
Even as a kid I did not understand the purpose of median values. It doesn't tell you much about the actual data set, and just saying what the range is would have conveyed more useful information.

Now as an adult, I see that's exactly the point: to be dishonest without actually lying.

>>105722966
Back to kindergarten. Don't cheat your way through with chatgpt this time.

>Unfortunately, we have decided not to proceed with your candidacy for the current position at this time. While you have many skills that could be of value to our organization, we received many qualified applicants and have decided to move ahead with another candidate who we feel is a better match for this particular position.

This industry is fucked. Ive been getting a lot of rejection emails of "too many applicants"

>>105722991
of course. statistics is one of the most jewish things you can imagine

>>105722996
it's a camned response, retard

>>105723001
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics."

>>105722991
>anon too retarded to understand medians
Lmfao and variance is also irrelevant amirite

>>105722929
very true, I like the analogy of agentic AI compared to excel. Why the fuck would I use excel if I can spin up a vector db and have the AI do all sorts of calculations and display data much more succintly than with excel? I swear to god people have no idea how drastic the world will change in the next 5 years. Anyone still using basic excel is gonna be out of a job because better technology has come around

>>105723004
>>105722996
been on the other side but it's because upper management are looking for unicorns. not really a good thing because once you do get a job, you're fucking YEETED in there. good luck even surviving as you have to help people with their operations even though they should know this shit back and forth and they're asking like the newbie because "he must've got some training" and little did you both know you're both fucked.

>>105723035
well it's also more like you need people to whip this shit up. you can't just fire your whole department and go "eh AI/excel will somehow do this" like I swear to god, LUIGIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>105723035
i use excel almost strictly for inventory tracking; i don't see how AI would help me with that more than just having a bigass table

>>105723038
I think due to the indians flooding the market, now employers are tricked into thinking it's a buyer's market.

>>105723064
>tricked
it is though. they have infinity jeets to pick from and it's not like their incompetence matters, all these companies make money on financial instruments, not actually providing goods or services to consoomers

tgif am i right fellas

>>105723075
When I say tricked, that means that they think there's a flood of good workers when it's all just cheap labor. None of the indians applying are competent. And due to western education, there's plenty of more competent programmers domestic. The employers just dont want to train all the juniors.

>>105719946
I was having a mid-life crisis / career crisis whatever and was just searching linkedin for 5 hours straight and tailoring my CV and couldn't sleep

>>105723087
>good workers
they dont care about the quality of the workers. again, producing things for market is not what modern corpos are for. it's all just a charade to pretend they aren't trading fake money among eachother to manipulate the value of purely made-up financial objects and occasionally steal from consoomers. they only need a few boomer grognards to keep the charade going, they do not want to hire competent personnel at all (since then they would have to pay them)

>New boss has a 2 week training plan
>Complains constantly why doesn't his new hires know shit
>Calls me a shit trainer even though I deal with the down stream affect's and retrain everyone from the guy who pushes these people through the 2 week training plan
>Says our jobs can be replaced by help desk employees with the 2 week training plan that failed to get these people up to speed for the work
Fucking christ he just hates everyone and me. Is my boss experiencing the very common BPD but for men instead of women?

>>105723118
well fiat is literally fake social money, so Im not surprised we've reached this inevitable end.

>>105723130
to be fair, even gold would be. the only "pure" currency is an outright barter system based on the actual usefulness of the products being traded

Hello /g/ I come from an unrelated field, primarily education. I've begun learning and working on React/webdev in full-stack. I have a BA in CompSci and I'm curious what the job market is like for someone like me who'd want to swap fields. I make around $80k in education right now so I'm hoping this bumps my paycheck and allows me to work with computers which I do enjoy.

>>105723145
at least with gold, you still have a finite source. it's not perfect yes. Labor is the source of all wealth in the end.

>>105723147
we get this troll every day bro it's not funny anymore

>>105723147
overloaded with jeets so good luck. and no jobs wants to bring on anyone who doesnt know all the tech already so no more learning on the job.

>>105723147
No one makes above 50k in education shut the fuck up.

>>105723152
everything physical is meaningfully finite to laymen thoughbeit. the only thing all humans have access to that is not finite is time. thus, man-hours is the only true measure of the value of an object.

and for gold, simply being finite does not make it valuable. if shtf tomorrow, i wouldn't want it; it's heavy and hard to transport as a currency (it is still wads of metal and due to its physical properties can't be made into easily transported thin coins) and more importantly I don't have any facilities in my house to turn it into anything. i would rather have lead, since i can at least cast that into air rifle pellets over a fire and use it to shoot birds. if the only value in gold to me is the things it can buy, it has no value at all

>>105723193
What does oil production have to do with forests

>>105723193
>>105723152
hot take: in the cyberpocalypse, instead of gold, we should use titanium

it's harder to make, just as rare, has similar anti-corrisve properties etc. as gold making it suitable for coinage, but it's much harder so you can roll it thinner and make smaller stuff out of it for coins.

>>105723158
Damn so I'm cooked?
>>105723153
It's my first time posting here. I guess I'm not that of a special case.
>>105723159
Depends on the State, I'm located in a nice area so the pay is good (housing is expensive as fuck though).

>>105723159
Her in germoney the entry salary for some teachers is unironically on par with senior devs lmfao

>>105723205
>>105723193
You both speak like edgy 15 year olds and wouldn't last 2 weeks. Please seek grass.

>>105722455
>is it reasonable to be annoyed be insecure micromanagers?
yes

>>105722325
>can't solve 4 simple programming questions meant to filter out the bottom of the barrel candidates
>instead of practicing to get better, complain about hiring practices on /g/

>>105723200
not all oil comes from the desert and presumably the joke is that Smokey is simply using his position to push propaganda anyway

>>105723216
on the 1% shot that you're not trolling
everyone wants to get into tech because it looks easy and there's lots of "rockstar" CEOs in it who make it look like everyone is rich (not to mention the legions of retards bragging about "TC" mostly made up of things that aren't straight cash money)

the reality is mixed; working with computers is "easy" but the easy jobs are very low level and poorly paid and the competition is absolutely insane even before the US and Canada imported literally millions of jeets to work for minimum wage. In actual COOOODER positions, hiring processes have been broken for decades, competition is still pretty stiff, and the newness of the field means that despite the thousands of standards for the stuff being made, schooling to get into the field is basically a series of snake-oil selling charlatans and the only way for an employer to know if you're actually able to do your job is to see you do it. So hiring/interviewing processes are wack as fuck, turnover is pretty high, and the actual codebases are all busted because they're maintained by people who aren't competent, don't care that they aren't competent, are overseen by people who don't care, and are selling to customers who don't care.

>>105723229
i do own a Crosman Optimus thoughbeit

it's only .177 but if you're just taking squirrels and sparrows it's like you'd have hit a man with fucking .338

If someone from upper management brings up the concept of ownership (aka doing their job for free) again I'm going to shoot the place.

>>105723147
In the off chance this isn't a troll post, the market is complete shit, even seniors with 5+ yoe can't find jobs, much less new grads or people with no professional experience. You're out of luck

>>105717216
>move to Japan
>boring food
>long work hours
>no subtitles can't understand shit
>no anime tier development where I gain superpowers and get a loli sidekick

>>105723159
Even in the shittiest states in the US, in public schooling, high school teachers make that. You're fucking retarded and fell for the Facebook whining bait that every lazy ass leftist groomer kindergarten teacher spews.

Let us not forget that they get 3 months off a year, every single holiday, and only have 6 hours of actual work in a day. I feel sorry for your mother.

>>105723295
>>no subtitles can't understand shit
Bro? Your Google Glass?

>>105723159
You are very wrong actually, highschool teachers in more expensive cities easily make low 6 figs and at nigger schools you'll easily make close to that even in cheap areas.

It's also a lot of the whole workplace is completely fucked. I've never seen the amount of unclear direction and just running around in circles I've ever seen in my whole life. None of the companies I've worked for have no actual roadmap. No actual organization, just a clusterfuck all around.

>>105723295
>boring food
WRONG

>>105723261
the jeet has arrived

>>105723159
that's just "ECE"s who are glorified babysitters whining that they don't make actual teacher wages for working at a preschool daycare

>>105723261
bad b8

>>105723217
I guess that's because devs earn fuck all in Europe.

>>105723291
>>105723275
Welp, thanks bros. Sounds like tech is absolutely fucked.
>meanwhile at my school everyone is shilling STEM and kids want to become techies
>go to college anon you'll succeed no worries!
kek

>>105723295
>>boring food
hello Jiyuna you weeb-ass brazillian

>>105723096
sorry to hear that bro, godspeed, wagmi

Honestly I'm really set on probably quitting without a job in two months.
>But it's easier to find a job when you have one
Yeah you know what I thought of that and I've been getting no bites for 5 months. I'd rather have a piece of mind and quit rather than deal with any piece of shit from this company again. Fuck man if they even say if I'm moving jobs I'm going to be straight up "nope I'm quitting because fuck you guys"

Can't stand faggots you can tell never worked a real job in their life and just went from high school to college to fake email tech jobs they act like menopausal women

>>105723328
Yeah CS grads are in for a harsh dose of reality after they graduate with their CS degree and all jobs are gone to India or AI
Every time I think about the current job market I thank god I graduated at the right time.

>>105723325
No devs still earn pretty well compared to the average job, it's just that teachers especially state employees get absolutely ridiculous amounts of money. Both don't even come close to state television figureheads though, those guys earn literally FANG unicorn employee tier salaries lmao. And all entirely taxpayer funded

>>105720599
>>105720630
>>105720675
Honestly, I live like a king in Uruguay.
The average 35 year old male in Uruguay earns about $10k a year, so I'm earning five times as much as them and investing 90% of my income.

>say something mildly critical of team lead
>3 days of getting nitpicked on everything I say
every time

also has anyone been able to do a career switch? i wanna switch from backend to something more interesting coz its hard for me to imagine myself doing this for any longer let alone improving at it

>>105723348
These kids have no idea and administrators/superintendents don't understand either. How could they, lmao they have no experience in the field and nobody in education understands this or even has the brains to understand it. I guess I'll just keep encouraging Johnny Doe to pursue that tech career lol

>>105723384
There are no jobs outside fullstack so there is no interesting job at all in tech.
Yes, I want to pivot to something else. Pharmacy tech or shelf stacking maybe.

>>105723328
Software is fucking boring anyway unless it's embedded, robotics, something with tangible results and application.
Midwits are insanely gullible. I'm gonna be the next heckin zuck! oops im 60k in debt xd.

>>105723407
software is not boring. Software companies are.

>>105723358
>we encourage open discussion and welcome improvements
>not like that!
Being a yesman will always make you more liked. Even if you have perfect delivery, autists have massive egos and can't stand criticism

What kind of workplace would you doomers like to work at? Like what's even your ideal work environment and day to day tasks? You all sound like you're about to give up and the whole field is in shambles, but clearly people who worked in tech like software engineers enjoyed their life before pajeets and AI ca. 2012, no? What is it that you guys miss?

>>105723462
Clear direction, helpful management, non fucking spergy stakeholders and coworkers. I don't think I'm asking for the world here. I have a coworker here that treats every 2/10 priority item into a 911 call and he'll fucking have a meltdown over someone asking him a question in a nice way.

>>105723404
>There are no jobs outside fullstack
Damn, my job must not exist then

>>105723462
Perfectly defined stories in backlog done by PO. I shouldn't have to do their fake and gay job for them
No gay fake meetings. You just take a story off the backlog when one is done
No useless grifting faggots asking me how to do simple tasks. Figure it out yourself use a search engine
No faggot asking for status. It's done when it's done

>>105723462
>What kind of workplace would you doomers like to work at? Like what's even your ideal work environment and day to day tasks?
unironically physical repair and fabrication

i would not mind making a buck over minimum wage to reseat shit in boomers PCs and occasionally take a soldering iron to a laptop, and even better if I can work for one of those places that restores pinball cabinets or makes custom game controllers or something. The only thing keeping me from churning out fightsticks and hitboxes myself is that I personally don't play stick, and my wont to make a Good Product conflicts with my idea that sticks/hitboxes fucking suck and aren't ergonomic

>>105723462
most never enjoyed their work. in +10 years in the field, there was only one job I liked, but even that went to shit fast.

>>105723512
>>105723511
>>105723503
>>105723476
>>105723462
Bros I miss my fast food job so much. They're invaded by jeets now but being a teenager with other teens to hang out with (with them actually still being helpful and not completely slacking off) was great man. Now I'm stuck with cutthroat boomers and Gen X. Shit sucks.

>>105723554
unironically agree. my most fulfilling job (but the worst paid) was when I worked at a breakfast place.

>>105723554
sounds like millennial startups are the way to go just go find the next Zuckerberg or slave away for boomers and Gen X doomers

>>105723511
Shut up! Nobody asked!

>>105723561
This is literally my job right now
>comfy as hell
>colleagues competent
>only bullshit comes from very high up but I don't have to deal with it because I'm not senior enough
>barely any meetings and RTO extremely soft and lenient, I'm still a home office chad 90-95% of the time
It's just that my fear of getting stuck is creeping in, and my greed wanting more money

Any other automated test engineers here? This is my first time in this role and holy shit I can understand why testers were always so mad. Everything's broken. Devs just merge broken shit without even launching other apps that they interface with.

>>105723511
What part of any of that is "tech"?

>>105721527
Thank you, glavset! I am now demoralized and ready for radicalization!

>>105723460
Autists can 100% accept criticism backed.by facts. If you accuse the autist of e.g. failing to communicate and the autist asks for an example and your answer is 'I don't have anything in mind' and they ask 'what should I do better' and you again answer 'I'm not sure', they will ask their colleagues for feedback. Invariably the colleagues will say something like 'not at all, I find your communication to be clear and honest, and actually it's refreshing and I really enjoy it'. What is an autist to do then?

>a projected job growth of 27%
Bull shit nigger. More like an expected applicant growth of 27%.

>>105723462
An environment where I'm allowed to do my work and be judged by how well or poorly I do my work. Ideally fully individualistic but realistically in a collaborative environment where we work together on finding solutions to unblock each other and work toward the same goal. Where working 12 hours a day is appreciated as hard work, ot a minimum expectation. Where getting the most glowing performance review ever means you're up for a raise, if not a promotion, not being fired on the spot for daring to ask for a raise. Where hiring takes a chance on promising people with the right attitude and invests in training rather than expecting people's profiles to match a checklist and to hit the ground running even at the internship level with 0 documentation or guidance.

>>105723476
You are the reason tech is fucked. Commit suicide.

>>105723503
Correct, you are larping. Separate backend and frontend roles stopped existing in 2015.

>>105723700
???? Bro why tf you aiming at my jugular

>>105723462
Give me a computer that I have complete control over and let me write software on it without dealing with shared infrastructure.

>no work assigned today except "put a file I got from another engineer somewhere, then click a button (which he also implemented)"
>it doesn't work

>>105723718
Every time I hear about the IT hurdles people on WSL have to go through, I wonder what the point of even running Windows as an engineer is

>get a really good performance review
>companies not even giving any bonuses this year
okay? what even is the point???

>>105723462
>What kind of workplace would you doomers like to work at?
Ideally one that I can ignore and completely forget about while paychecks hit my account every two weeks.
I've had it before and I want it again.

>>105723714
If you say so
I guess i don't need to log on next week lmfao

>>105723734
I can one-up you
>get a really good performance review, praises how much I'm driving the project forward and being one of the leaders in engineering
>company hires someone externally with higher seniority despite no need for that person

>>105723714
My "full-stack" stuff stopped being frontend and started being Linux edge devices.

>>105723732
>people on WSL
Hell I'd be happy with a VM or WSL just fucking give me root and let me run whatever I want on it. Don't make me support your retarded jenkins framework. Don't make me do everything in a shared test environment that I have to coordinate with other people to use (and can break.)

I'm so tired of half my time being spent figuring out how someone else's dumb decision means my stuff doesn't work or waiting for them to give me something critical to finish my work.

idk maybe I'm just not cut out for corporate software dev.

>>105723732
>>no work assigned today except "put a file I got from another engineer somewhere, then click a button (which he also implemented)"
>>it doesn't work
Lol I knew it didn't work but I was so burnt out I convinced our senior engineer to merge it anyway just so I could close the ticket. They even saw it blow up in the demo and either didn't notice because of all the noise in the log or didn't care.

>>105723781
How the hell do people who aren't "full stack" even get dressed in the morning or get jobs? How do you literally not understand what a database or DOM is?

>>105723835
Do you think only fullstack engineers use databases? Lmfao

>>105723793
>happy with...WSL just fucking give me root and let me run whatever I want on it
Lmao
This is why everyone with a non-Windows device is so protective of it (myself included)

>>105723808
That's why I blocked your other shitty PR. Good luck getting rid of the "no changes requested" pre-merge check

>>105723860
>can't read

>>105723650
Thank you for proving my point

>>105724047
I accept your surrender.

>>105724011
Are you retarded?

>>105724082
You are both illiterate and retarded.

>>105723609
cant think of anything more boring

>>105721897
These all look like contracting companies. I'll start digging into them, thanks

>>105722822
Median is the most useful average.
It allows you to cut through the noise of outliers.
Example:
NYC has a mean household income of 130k (very high) but a median income of 80k (literally the country average) => most people in NYC are making average money but there’s a small group of people making a ton of money

>>105720655
Germany's job market still sucks. I did manage to get a job despite obvious autism that I never got diagnosed for but people can tell and ask me about it.

>during a client meeting, I was eager to demonstrate my technical expertise and ended up contradicting the sales team's proposed timeline and budget in front of the client
>client got pissed with our sales team
>as a result, I may have cost the company hundreds of thousands of dollars
>suddenly we have mail threads with 20+ people and higher ups with bullshit roles like ASVP of digital acceleration and AI inovation literally swearing "WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY? Why did he do this???"
>my manager instructed me to pause my regular tasks, removed me from the mail threads with the sales and team and asked me to focus on documenting all my knowledge of our products for the day

I'm retarded
this is the first time this has happened in my career
what do

>>105724302
modal is the most useful, because it will tell you that in fact the vast majority of people in NY make 0$

Ngl, I've been thinking about this shit daily and it is depressing. Sometimes I think if falling off would be a relief.

>>105721149
I gotta learn how to calculate modes, dang bro, tank u

>>105724054
Says the autist who wrote a refutation on a minor criticism on how autists can't take criticism

>>105724351
Are you guys IT monkeys who never took CS in college (requires intro stats)

>>105724331
i mean desu, what were you thinking?

>>105724351
They're just the roots of the derivative of your PDF, brah

>>105724331
lmao rookie mistake
you'll learn

>>105721169
>you can't just parrot one number to express the entirety of wealth distribution and economic health
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>105722505
I know a neet who is doing his own project and hopefully he'll succeed but I'm somewhat doubtful. If I was unemployed myself I would send out applications asap because the alternative would just be mindlessly browsing 4chan all day. I lost all motivation to do something meaningful a long time ago as a child.

>>105724387
>>105724374
I studied physics and minored in cs, now I'm a bi dev and I never used these before

>>105724331
Just wait to get fired I guess

>>105724423
What would a gay/lesbian/trans/queer dev do?

>>105722505
>>105722936
Based high M (motivation) unemployment lovers. I hope to join you on the sidelines of life again, in due course.

I won't quit my comfy remote job without a reason.

>>105724449
kek they're too busy dilating in the gender neutral bathroom.

>>105724331
Life would be so much better without a sales or marketing team. Not sure if I hate them more or the same as HR.

>>105724331
You deaerve it. How the fuck do cretins like you get jobs when the competent among us have to beg 1000 hr thots for even one interview

>>105723462
In the late 90s: Being able to configure easy things like file servers, expand the network, manage VLANs, etc. got you treated as a god. I could come to work in shorts and flipflops every day, tour the entire office, chat up any employee I wanted, drive around in the company truck to clear my mind, and everything was great. Most IT departments were like one or two guys and nobody bothered them so long as stuff continued to work. More than anything, I could get really great pay with nothing more than associates degree because I had tons of experience and a great track record.

Nowadays, the competition is fierce, or at least it looks fierce. There's a massive amount of people getting in to tech that have no business working it and it gums up the whole system. Bosses see the massive stream of applicants for even basic jobs and want Bachelors+numerous certs+10 years of experience with masters preferred and it's a tier 2 helpdesk job. It also sucks that companies hire for basic positions but then delegate things above your paygrade to you, forcing you into the awkward position of either doing what you're handed so you can keep getting paid or getting asked why you're going so slow with the eventual termination notice if you speak up.

I want my career to go back to being a thing rarely done by people and held in some regard by others.

>>105724331
rook move but honestly there should have been a sales guy with you to say "haha no no no hehe anon is just enthusiastic, and he doesn't have the necessary top-down view of the situation. really the timeline and budget are..."

>>105724365
It appears you have very limites linguistic skills. You should really brush up on them.

>>105723338
don't do that. Get a good night's sleep. Stop caring. If you are in yurop make them fire you. Fuck with them as long as possible, don't give those assholes a free win.

>>105724584
the sales guy was there and he dropped his spaghetti
i wish he wouldve done what you said
he completely fucked me over by not shielding me

>>105724570
idk about that. i'm happy as a little cog in the machine, as long as I can be my cog self with some autonomy. when my (good) reputation precedes me, I unironically get anxious and a little bit angry

>>105724604
this is easier to do in hindsight. People aren't that quick on their feet unless some bullshit is expected

>>105723460
most people only make that mistake once and learn to exercise their miranda rights

>>105724604
>>105724635
this is why i shield any enthusiasm behind a criminal attitude. I basically go "I can have this done in two days if you give me 500$ and carte blanche to do it however I like, but if you want it done right, documented properly, and signed off by everyone who keeps us out of jail, you'll have to ask [other agency]"

>>105724604
why did you only reply to this guy lol?

>>105724625
experience is what lets you always expect some bullshit

>>105724641
Nigga is getting fired, he just wants reassurance.

>>105724605
You are subhuman. Leave.

>Worked IT Support, hated hearing ignoramuses bitch and moan about technology all day
>Worked Development, hated being glued to a chair all day
What next?
Wouldn't mind working in a data centre I think, but none near by.

>>105724706
IT Audit

>>105724715
As in the guys that come in and stick labels on things?

>>105723657

>>105724647
well now you have some experience to expect that people aren't quick on their toes when a faggot is fucking over the organization

>>105724604
>he completely fucked me over
You deserved it.

>>105724342
based kanji enjoyer

I finally understand why my seniors in all my previous jobs were lazy POS. I'm turning into a lazy POS myself. Is this the only answer for this industry? Caring is just a way to get turbo fucked.

>>105724749
?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wbk5tkArZw

>>105724734
That isn't a government stat it's a job board.

>>105724604
>he completely fucked me over
Oh no not yet. That's going to happen when he throws you under the bus when he starts getting flack for what happened too. Actually that probably already happened or is happening now.

>>105724641
I mean all the other posts are just shitting in my mouth saying I'm gonna get fired
What the hell am I supposed to reply with

>>105724749
I should've added more context, I think people think my post was "suicidal" but no I'm talking about the whole we live our lives on separate or the same beam. We can see others suffering and succeeding but we can't do anything to them except give them words. We can fall at any moment, someone can push you, you can lose your drive and just fall over. You can't even turn back because you're so far gone the way back home feels impossible. There's no way but forward, but you're not even sure if you'll make it. One by one you'll see other people fall but you can't look at them. You have to pretend you don't see them just so you don't lose your drive to keep walking.

>>105723159
In Germany teachers are earning insane salaries from day one. I have a five year head start over my girlfriend in a well-paying field and still have to boost my salary tremendously if I don't want to get out-earned by her teaching French and Italian to moody teenagers for half a day. And when you have three kids, you get another ridiculous salary bump and it will be impossible to catch up. The teacher mafia is insane here. Worse than any jeet infection

>>105724808
Exactly, that whole anime is glorious and a piece of gold. It helped me when I was in a rut and you're correct. Just get off the internet, focus on yourself. Don't let some anons online discourage you.

>>105724807
I mean yeah you are. I really don't understand your thought process in saying shit to your clients.
Are they interviewing you or something? Did you hate your company?
>I was eager to demonstrate my technical expertise
Was it really necessary to prove yourself during a sales call? You know companies all the time do unethical shit so they get more money lol. I'm not even against going against the man, but you had like no point to do it. You literally did it because you were looking for validation. That's just embarrassing man. I genuinely want to understand what was running through your mind the moment you saw something and wagged your tail and spoke up.

>>105724807
This attitude is the reason you'll get fired.

>>105724822
>Just get off the internet, focus on yourself. Don't let some anons online discourage you.
It's not the internet man. It's the workplace. You stop walking, you get pushed off. You can't stop because then you can't proceed. You always just have to walk, you might not even want what's in front of you anymore but there's no turning back. Just avert your eyes and keep nodding saying yes to everything until eventually you fall off or you "make it". But is it even worth it at that point? With all of your friends and coworkers who fell?

>>105723462
Pretty much
>new notification
>detailed instructions of what I have to do
>do task
>get paid
>repeat
>zero human interaction

>>105722834

>>105724835
>you saw something and wagged your tail and spoke up.
very hot. would pet and rape >>105724331

>>105722834
This is what I’m doing… roughly 130k after bonuses paying 960 monthly for rent. Roommating it up

>>105724896
No I want this anon if he's not larping or trolling to actually state what the fuck was in his mind when he said this shit because I'm genuinely curious how could someone bumble THAT fucking hard.

>>105724331
>focus on documenting all my knowledge of our products for the day
Enjoy your holiday I guess

>>105724925
lol I hope this story is real, this is the most blatant “were about to fire you, make sure you make sure your replacement can understand/do everything you’ve done”

Canuck bros... what are we doing this long weekend?

I might fly to Vancouver for sex with skinny Asian women.

>>105724911
Personally I want to know how demonstrating his "technical expertise" somehow got him to contradicting what the sales people said. Some shit like
>I'm so good I can get this done in 3 months!
>the sales rep said it'd be done in 2 months
>oh ummmm...
?

>>105724984
the opposite. He said he xould so it in 2 days when sales was quoting 3 months, or said he could solo it when sales said it required a whole team.

>>105724984
it was probably the opposite, like he said
>I'm so good I can get this done in 2 months!
>the sales rep said it'd be done in 12 months
and then the client goes to their sales guy and is like
>We are not paying for those extra 10 months.

>>105723938
>That's why I blocked your other shitty PR.
Joke's on you. I haven't opened another PR in months.

>>105725001
>>105725002
Oh right, forgot it works like that too sometimes.

>>105724331
To all the recent CS graduates and young unemployed zoomers. This is the reason you need to work on your soft skills, it's not a meme.

>>105725106
It's the reason you need to shut up.
Dumb thing to pipe up on anyway, everyone knows you double your estimate just in case anything goes wrong.

>>105725123
>It's the reason you need to shut up.
I eventually realized that 99% of the time is better to keep your mouth shut.

>>105725123
Yeah but they need to land the job first.

>>105725106
Working retail helps. You just need to find a place that doesn't get too busy and less likely to get shithead customers.

>company hires a manager
>literally every developer could tell this guy was just a snake oil salesman
>boss starts getting into bureaucracy bullshit with the higher ups
>no longer in touch with projects and day to day work
>manager eventually starts giving us more responsibilities under the pretense of "ownership"
>daily, retro, kpi, useless data left and right
>everyone from product is absolutely clueless
>literally the only people that actually have to respect procedures are developers
>developing anything is slow as a snail
>constant requirement changes, zero organization, masked as "agile" and "adaptability"
>years later the mess is even begger but instead of our boss we have some midwit in charge who nobody knows what he even does 8h a day

So how do I quickly learn Excel and Power Automate with Power Apps?
>You do cloud stuff and these diagrams (elk) right?
>Can you make some Excel with power automate?
That was a DM from manager's manager, cant argue and gave me "few days" but I got no idea about any of these


>>105724331
I got 2nd hand cringe from reading that.
Good job, anon.

>>105724593
Your inability to comprehend basic english does not reflect others' skills

>>105725197
>How can I build a tree with a hammer
Huh? I can actually help you with this since I got looped into the same shit but this feels like the wrong way of doing things. Feel free to add more details in the next thread if this gets archived.

PUMP THIS GENERAL UP TO 500 REPLIES YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS!!!!!

>>105724331
In a polite, non toxic way, you tell them to suck your fat cock.

People getting upset because a junior dev got overexcited and communicated a timeline which isn't representative of the entire, required process? Fuck them. Tell them to start acting like the professionals they pretend to be.

>>105725259
Maybe Microsoft managed to con more companies into the power platform this month...

Using power platform slightly makes sense, it's just that I got no clue about excel, dbs, or power automate. The whole thing is normie office stack and chatgpt hallucinates anything I ask. Books may be too slow and tok much effort for something I want to do asap and forget, and tutorials online seem like the same cesspool like office and wordpress tutorials, scamming normies into hyper basic courses.

>function broke last week
>raised it up early on
>submitted a ticket (not sure if it went through the proper channels) and informed my boss
>boss is more worried over why it failed instead of fixing it (alright then)
>his boss is now panicking why it's been broken for a week now.
>his boss is now asking my boss what's the impact and if everything is fucked because it's been broken for a week
>my boss is making me tell his boss if we need to do a 911 call
lmaoooooooooooooooo
honestly I'm thinking of just staying silent on these now and not even raising it up. nobody really takes responsibility over it and it seems to bite me in the ass. I'm not even mentioning the cleanup since nobody else mentioned it.

>>105725437
uhhh....dude I still don't know what you're trying to do lol. how am i suppose to help if you're just ranting.

>>105725457
Many such cases
>guys this will be a big issue
>yeah yeah ok anon well fix it sometime, let's continue with the release
>2 weeks later
>AHHHHH WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYTHING CRASHING
>my honest reaction: :^)

>>105725457
>>105725483
Literally me for over a week. Customer support is on suicide watch and the CEO is wondering how something we've been telling that wasn't ready for release is breaking.

>>105725483
It's just frustrating. If you take the initiative, they don't really give a fuck and I'm tired of holding the buck when nobody's willing to actually direct or take the wheel on this. I'm probably going to get fired soon since I've been so "alright you know what fuck you all and if you're not going to take charge, i'll just sit in the chair then".
It actually feels bad because if we actually fixed the function earlier this week, it would be maybe like 3-5 cases. Now it's up to 80 cases and I'm just like :3 "i'm so fucked if they ask me to fix this".

>>105725516
>fuck you all and if you're not going to take charge, i'll just sit in the chair then
I've been doing that for 3 years just fine.

>>105725227
Why can't you ever take criticism?

>>105725501
>>105725516
Just have it documented somewhere and visible that you brought up the issue early and you'll sleep well (only works if you don't care about the product itself too much kek)

>>105724331
Your job when clients are in the room is to make your company (and especially your boss) look good. Usually by shutting up.

>>105725561
Yeah I document absolutely everything so shit like "this was supposed to be done" won't work on me.
>only works if you don't care about the product itself too much
I don't care about the product at all. With shit like this going on for years they made me realize it's not worth it.

>>105725561
only works in boomer companies. Meme companies will ignore this and fire you anyway (so yes, document and then do nothing, it is optimal)

>>105725561
>>105725554
I mean the problem that could bite me is the ticket was listed as low priority but I was pretty sure when I submitted it I couldn't really change it from my end. I don't want to check now but meh my boss and his boss had visibility on this so I can't really say he was OOTL. Maybe they expected me to have more initiation to fix it but I say if you're not going to ask and nobody's checking in with me with the ticket, why should I, lol?

>>105725608
>Meme companies will ignore this and fire you anyway
You don't want to work at a company like that anyway

>>105725480
>>105725197
you still want help there pal or...?

>>105725197
>the links are all purple

>>105725197
excel is pretty trivial but also very janky on top of being best documented by a mixture of karens and jeets so it can be frustrating

idk anything about powerbi but i've heard it's "not hard" but is evocative of old macro writing

>>105725480
>>105725645
Yeah sorry.
I got to make an "app" that takes some inputs (server load) calculate stuff based on another sheet, add it to the list and emails pdf to people in another sheet. Basically daily & weekly KPI calculator for networking guys. Everything is on SharePoint or shared through OneDrive.

I discovered that it's possible to make SharePoint "list" which looks like a read only excel.

>>105725634
sometimes it's the only company hiring. Plus maybe the pay is good.

>>105725720
Yeah that's definitely doable.
Idk what you mean by server load. But I think your best option in Power Automate is to first focus on
1. Get sheet 1 -> get data from sheet 2 and mash it into sheet 1
2. Get 1X -> add it to Sheet 3
3. mash sheet 3 and sheet 4.

I'm really not too sure on the take some input(server load) part. I can probably look online to get some documents that you can look at to do 1/2/3 but need more details on the input.
Honestly never really liked Power platform for automation tools like this and rather would Python it but I can never find a company that's comfortable with "programming languages" and I wouldn't even know how to host it.

>>105725778
It's all on SharePoint. I got no idea how "program" this thing, can you recommend any source that would be good for tech people (not normie slow, hyper basic or trying to sell something), but not excel jokey level?

>Server load
It's in csv files on one drive. They somehow appear and update there hourly.

>Python
that'd be good too if I knew how to connect to SharePoint.

quite the lively thread today huh?

>put my resume on all the job board sites to cast a wide net
>phone and email spammed by pajeet recruiters nonstop
I redid my resume with a Google Voice number and a different email address that I intend to only use for job hunting. Voicemail for the VOIP number tells them to send me an email with the job description and the email sends an automatic reply that tells them what I’m looking for and to briefly reply back if their job meets my requirements. Is this smart or dumb? I had seven pajeets call me with dog shit or inapplicable jobs yesterday all within the same ten minutes and I just don’t have time for it anymore.

>>105724331
It's over for (You).

>>105725879
everyone is eager for the long weekend in canuckland~

>>105725844
Yeah, that's NP!
But thinking about this, wouldn't it be easier to just have a PowerBI dashboard? but I don't know the semantics so I won't be an asshole.
This all implies that you have access to the sharepoint drive and files?
>For initiating the trigger.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sharepoint/dev/business-apps/power-automate/sharepoint-connector-actions-triggers
There's probably multiple ways to do your sheet shenningans but I have no idea what your actual files are so my impression is probably best to have a clean sheet and add only the necessary information.
Step 1: You can use something like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfskquGoeG4
Formula wise I don't know what specifically you can do so I'll need more info on that.
Step 2: Same thing
I don't know if you really need Sheet 4 if you can just make a distribution list instead, seems easier: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/discussions/sharepoint_general/create-distribution-list-from-a-sharepoint-list/838063/replies/3754066

>>105725910
Do you have the vacation on the tuesday too? It's so stupid.

>>105725881
>Is this smart or dumb?
It's fine to filter some jeets but roasties will get the ick.

>>105725920
>This all implies that you have access to the sharepoint drive and files?
I have "user" access3s to read&write no az backend or admin panel access.
I got a page with owner rights to publish to too.
Lack of admin rights is what stops me from python.

>>105725910
St-Jean passed a while ago, though.

>>105724331
Why were you even present? Why did the sales team obviously lie? Why is no manager sucking off the client? What a fucking set up

>>105725941
I don’t even talk to HR rosaries anymore, they’re all recruiters. Not sure what happened over the past two years but companies seem to have given up responding to me directly, it’s always some headhunting. Maybe I’m doing something wrong or maybe that’s just how things go now. Either way they’re normally just as desperate as me to get an interview set up, I’m just trying to save both of us time.

>>105725959
uh huh.... anyways just really thinking about it more, seems significantly easier to do this in powerBI. just have the datapoints pull from PowerBI and set settings to refresh the dashboard every few hours or something. Is there a specific use case to use Power Automate instead of BI?

>>105725990
That's what he told me to use.
I got to make a form and to join the data and transform and send emails too, not just display it

>>105725965
You'll learn what working is like when you're old enough to get a job, timmy

>>105725985
Companies have loved making most of their workforce go through external contractor companies because it makes it easier to fire someone for bullshit reasons for quite some time. This might just be an evolution of that.

>>105725964
Someone get this FROG nigger OUT OF HERE

>>105726099
quckbec niggers aren't frogs, just like cucknadians aren't human.

>>105726024
I mean...can't you ask him if a PowerBI Dashboard works for him instead? Seems significantly easier just getting the inputs and making a dashboard instead of playing around with the data and "automating" stuff in Power Automate (sorry I kinda hate the tool lol)

new >>105726301

>>105724331
not your fault, anon. your superior should have been able to sus out that you are a retarded sperg, and never let you near any clients.
generally, bringing dev team to client meetings is a dumb idea. suits were basically asking for it.

>>105725557
Because I'm autistic

>>105726369
Definitely notz otherwise you's know the difference between an accusation and criticism.

>>105722374
Depends on the company
Where I am I got hired as a """"mid-level""""

I am expected to lead and architect projects on my own, communicate with stakeholders, design complete end to end solutions with minimal help from seniors, encompassing a wide array of tech and also plan the timeline and orchestrate the entire implementation.

My company's levels might be deflated in comparison to the industry average though.

>>105725928
yep, I took Monday off

have no plans... hmm