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Previous thread: >>106324979

Nixos

>Notice neofetch is slow
>realize tumblweed changed it out with some fucking troonware
>takes forever to start
>They try to hide it by calling it neofetch
Fucking hell

>>106354201
lol why are you even using neofetch in the first place

>>106354201
Caring about how long it takes for neofetch to run by definition makes you a troon, guy. Basically the equivalent of /k/ posters who sit around and post pictures of their guns all day while trooning out for nafo

>>106354251
It took 3 seconds for it to boot on a 9950x3d, that's fucking insane and I never seen that before I went on a new install where this tranny shit replaced the original. I found fast fetch and it performs like the original repo

Parents were complaining about their desktop being suddenly extremely slow as fuck.

Windows task manager shows 100% usage at idle. Malware scan was mostly clean - just the KMS activator used to crack windows 8.1 like a decade ago (lol)

Chalk it up to a dead hard drive. Buy them a new SSD and install Mint on it. Give them shortcuts to Firefox and Thunderbird (what they were using and used to for email)
>Oh thank you it is so fast now!

They literally don't even care that they're running Linux because all the use their computer for is browsing the web and email.

Anyone else ever install retard friendly Linux distros for your retard families?

Also curious has anyone ever run a small PC repair business for boomers/old GenX/technically inept people? Feels like easy money if you charge a $100 call minimum+ a fair hourly wage. Could also possibly do things like advisory PC shopping or custom builds.

>>106354201
Switch to fastfetch

>>106354291
can confirm mint is great for parents that don’t need much

>>106354178
I look like this

>>106354178
>>106354444
You're a big guy.
Also checking your big quads get here

I ran a command I thought I understood and found innocuous enough from here and wiped my entire home folder. I am a moron and have learned a valuable lesson. I also now have, like, a week of work ahead of me. Goodbye to my configs, aaaaaaugh. Fuck me. Turns out you can encode harmful code into bytecode and run it via aplay or something.

>>106354291
>Chalk it up to a dead hard drive
SSD won't be always be better than HDD, unless purchase the high end stuff.
They have long life, do health check, instead of wasting your families money.,

>Windows task manager shows 100% usage at idle. Malware scan was mostly clean
Probably a cryptominer. antivirus are half arsed as always.

>literally don't even care that they're running Linux
Most people don't care, outside their app and use.

>>106354178
hahahaha sides lost....

>>106354472
No way lmfao did you actually do this?
>>106353705

>>106354178
Loving the background people. Just needed someone taking a clear look at the bottom belly.

>>106354582
Yes, I am so very stupid and accept my fate. GG.

>>106354478
Windows alerted me of a drive error in first boot. I wasn't 100% sure that was the only issue and dug deeper but that was the only smoking gun

I considered a crypto miner but 100% pinned disk usage but low CPU usage (no GPU) wouldn't make sense for the profile of a crypto miner. Also yeah again nothing showed up in a scan, across two applications.

My parents don't download shit really besides pictures they email to themselves since they don't know how cloud photo storage works. Unless they received some drive-by malware from the random websites they visit I don't see how they could have accidentally installed a malicious crypto miner

>SSD won't always be better than HDD
In nearly every performance metric an SSD will outperform an HDD, especially if we're talking about a dead HDD

My parents had no issue chalking up $60 for a cheap SATA SSD to give them life support vs their alternative of them spending $150+ at a computer repair shop to take a look and tell them they either need to do that or buy a whole new PC just to get something windows 11 compatible - which again they don't even seem to actually care about

>>106354582
>>106354624
Obviously you should run commands unless you know what they do, but sometimes I wonder why distros don't implement delayed deletion with Btrfs snapshots.

>>106354291
>Anyone else ever install retard friendly Linux distros for your retard families?
Yes. They're fine with it.

>>106354178
he has nicer hair than me

anyone know about whether the blue light filter on gnome works the same as it does on kde and even whether it works the same as it does on winshit?

>Use 150% DPI scale
>Open GIMP
>GUI indeed has 150% DPI scale
>But so does my image
Setting the zoom level on GIMP to 100% does not in fact give me a 100% pixel-perfect zoom level. It's hilarious, but also sad. Any idea how to fix this on Plasma?

>>106354669
I haven't used Arch extensively as a desktop or any Linux distro as a desktop for a while.
I mainly use it for torrenting/media playing through a Hyprland session with a terminal, qbittorrent and mpv. That in itself has taught me a lot about the system.

>>106354125 (OP)
What are the differences between the new T series (T14, T16) and the X1 carbon lineup?

>>106354291
>Anyone else ever install retard friendly Linux distros for your retard families?
always ubuntu. and it just werks.

>>106355380
>asking laptop questions in /fglt/ when there's a laptop thread
am i a joke to you

>>106355380
>always ubuntu
You install something with a completely different UI (assuming windows background)? Surprised that they don't hate it from the get go.

Mint (Cinnamon) is the safe bet.

>>106355500
no ofc not. what's wrong with gnome on ubuntu? it's basically a phone home screen at this point. normies love that shit. you're thinking too much like a person who thinks normies like windows.

>>106355512
Normies like things they're familiar with.

>>106355532
Which is phone screens and tablets. Gnome is just that, but for PC.

>>106355485
>arch pkg
that's the same as .pkg.tar.zst, through, right?

>>106354291
>Anyone else ever install retard friendly Linux distros for your retard families?
Debian on my grandpa's computer. the only thing he needs is a web browser. and his computer was 32-bit. so Debian XFCE it is. but that was years ago

>>106355564
>eyelashes
FUCK, SEXO

>>106355545
is gnome was just phone screens and tablets ag least they'd have desktop icons when it's unlocked. you'd be able to take apps from search and put them on your home screen. and you'd have multiple desktops/home screens. and you'd be able go rename app folders

>>106355532
A huge chunk of the population primarily and even exclusively uses phones. Many people don't even have PCs or laptops at all.
I mean fuck, out of all my friends, family and neighbors, I think close to 60% or maybe even 70% of them don't have a computer/laptop. They just don't need it. And even if a household has a PC, there might just be one person per household who owns it and uses it. Outside of my gamer friends, most people I know don't use their computers more than once a week or month. PCs just aren't popular among boomers and women.
Meanwhile, every single person has an Android/iOS device. GNOME's UI is pretty similar to what those two would look like and behave like on a large screen. So it's a lot more natural to most people. No matter it's flaws, it's just more intuitive compared to KDE and Cinnamon (for people who primarily use their phones as their "computer" and are looking into buying a real PC/laptop).

I installed gnome debian on my spare laptop and damn gnome looks like a toy lol
Plus debian repos don’t even have stuff like Bitwarden
It’s jover

>>106355545
>>106355656
Most people interact with computers at work/school, especially if they're getting one for home/personal use.

>>106355564
Konqi would never look that appealing.

Swapping distros not by formatting and reinstalling, but replacing all the files of the current distro with the ones of a different distro
How hard can it be?

>>106355669
>school
Aside from making a power point presentation once or twice a year (which you can do on a school computer, or nowadays on a phone), and aside from a computer science class, kids don't really use computers.
My zoomer cousin only bought a laptop once she got into college last year. And she would barely use it if it wasn't a tech/programming related field.
>Most people interact with computers at work
Sure, but a computer you only use at work is almost certainly just going to have a full screen app open. You won't interact with the OS/desktop at all and the only UI you'll see is whatever software you use. A POS device doesn't in any way translate to using a PC at home.

Moved to CachyOS KDE last week from win11. gotta say, I'm loving it! so much faster and better then win11 but there is only one minor problem i have with it.
when I press the sleep button to put the pc to sleep it sleeps for a sec and then wakes up on its own. it does go to sleep generally if I wait for the sleep timer to go out (set it to 15mins). how do i fix this and make the sleep button work?

>>106355564
please, i just gooned already

>just opening my Downloads folder takes a minute to load
Download> for i in (ls)
set j (file -ib $i | awk -F\; '{ print $1.}')
mkdir -pv $j
mv -v $i $j/
end
was this a bad idea? it's still running despite the "$1." typo.

Sent from my GrapheneOS

>>106355695
You'd first have to dump essential files of your current OS into a RAM disk so that you don't accidentally remove/alter something your OS would be using during the replacement process.
But how would you do this without doing a fresh install anyways? You'd need to have your new OS installed somewhere before you can copy files from it. I don't think just using an .iso would do it since some distros download additional files dynamically, like proprietary drivers or optional software.
Also, you'd definitely have to do a full reboot after it's done, you'd have to handle the kernel and bootloader, and you'd have to handle situations where some distros partition the OS differently. At that point you might as well just do a clean install since it's faster, simpler and safer.

If you're really interested you can look into how Q4OS does this. They apparently have an installer you can run from within Windows, which wipes Windows and installs Q4OS in it's place. So you never need to make a bootable USB at all. It's similar to what you're trying to do.

>>106355713
Can you try these two:
>Does it sleep properly if you set it to sleep through your GUI
>Does it sleep properly if you set it to sleep with "systemctl suspend" in the terminal

Just got into Bash scripting. The more I dive in the more I discover really great tools that I've never used in 20 years on Linux.

>fifo
>parallel (with it's remote executing)
>select

Such simple tiny pieces that you can pull together to create amazing scripts. I guess I've been missing the whole time guys.

>>106355803
Bash scripting makes me want to blow my brains out

Can I manually add/exclude applications from preload? Spectacle has MISERABLE launch times, whereas on Windows pressing PrtScr INSTANTLY intercepts the framebuffer and keeps it in memory.

>>106355827
>on Windows pressing PrtScr INSTANTLY intercepts the framebuffer and keeps it in memory.
How do you achieve this? On W11 it genuinely takes 3-5 seconds for the screenshot utility to appear for me.
It doesn't annoy me since it's a work machine, but it would be nice to have this instant.

>>106354677
libreoffice ruined an ms pptx file just by opening it and the writer is ass. I can't seem to be able to catch a break with linux. I found out onlyoffice is webshit and can't animate single bullet points in presentation.
Who even does that? This feature is what AVERAGE() is to excel.

>>106354125 (OP)
Do GNU/Linus people not write documents, give presentations, and stare at excel sheets in anguish?

>picrel
fml
wish there was a fedora lts or something.
What's the best Distro for a laptop that doesn't see much day to day use?

>>106355948
debian

>>106355884
>On W11 it genuinely takes 3-5 seconds for the screenshot utility to appear for me
Are you talking about opening Snipping Tool, or just copying the screen with PrtScr?

>>106355564
uuh what is that left arm hiding

>>106355958
Why is He capitalized and bolded? do troonixfags really worship anthro shotas?

>>106355952
Hitting the PrtScr. Now that I think about it, maybe it's just set to snipping tool by default on my machine. I have no idea how any of it works since I'm not a windows user. Last version I used on my personal devices was Windows 7, 10 years ago, and I never used the snipping tool at all.
Basically, when I hit PrtScr it doesn't take a screenshot of my screen immediately and it takes 3-5 seconds for it to open the "select an area of the screen to take a screenshot of" thing. I never really want to screenshot my entire screen anyways, so it's behaving correctly. It just takes way too long to open.

KDE's spectacle is almost as slow as Windows screenshot tool to the point where I just replaced it with flameshot (which also takes 1 second to open for whatever reason, but at least it's 2x-3x faster than spectacle).
Funny thing is, I remember any other screenshot utility on Linux being instant back when I used Xfce, Cinnamon and Gnome. And even Spectacle itself was fast in the early days of KDE 5 iirc, I just didn't use the DE because it was unstable as fuck.
Apparently this is a known issue and nobody has addressed it https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=442876

On X11 it should be as simple as installing grim and wl-clipboard, then setting this command shortcut in Plasma settings:
grim - | wl-copy
But on Wayland it doesn't work since the compositor doesn't support the screen capture protocol (or so the error says). I'm afraid we have to wait for the DE to natively implement the desired solution.

>>106355958
> bold, highlighted and capitalized
big dick energy konqi!

>>106356058
Correction: grim is a Wayland screen capture tool. The problem is that it doesn't work with Plasma.

>>106356058
grim only works on wlroots compositors. God I love fragmentation

>>106356058
This kinda works on Plasma...
spectacle -b -c
But it takes SECONDS to take the screenshot because Spectacle is just soooo slow. Seriously, evening running spectacle --help takes forever.

>>106355669
At school kids use iPads or Chromebooks

>>106355664
>Bitwarden
Flatpaks exist.

>>106356262
I know but I don't want to visit every application website to use the fl*tpack.. my arch system has everything I want pulled from Pacman.

Maybe debian or apt just isn't for me

>>106356275
>I know but I don't want to visit every application website to use the fl*tpack.. my arch system has everything I want pulled from Pacman.
0. Open App Store
1. Search App
2. Install App
?

>>106356289
Literally in new debian installation gnome the store didn't fucking work lol

I thought debian was supposed to just werk idk I spent 20 mins in it honestly

>>106356310
Layer 8 Problem
Install Vanilla OS

>>106356315
VanillaOS? Isn't Debian vanilla enough? I just picked the de from the iso installer.
If you mean installing everything manually from cli at that point I'd pick arch again

>>106356328
Vanillaos is immutable Debian. It's retard proof.

>>106354291
>Anyone else ever install retard friendly Linux distros for your retard families?
My mom even used it for school

>>106355929
>can't animate single bullet points in presentation.
You dont need it, i get your point, but you should use pdf for presentations

>>106356310
Thought Gnome-Software was functional only in Fedora.
>>106355695
What do you mean by hard? The process works.

there's all these little things that we take for granted in winshit, like something as basic as doing a screenshot on a selected rectangle of the screen
idk how tf I'd start to do this if I switched to hyprland entirely

>>106355800
The GUI one is the one that dosnt work, terminal is fine.

>>106356131
>Seriously, evening running spectacle --help takes forever.
holy shit you're right. the fuck are they doing?

>>106356328
VanillaOS is just a more confusing and more outdated Silverblue/Bazzite.

>>106356479
>terminal is fine.
Fascinating. That would suggest that the DE you're using has a bugged suspend action. Some DEs intercept power signals before passing them to systemd afaik.
It could be that KDE puts your device to sleep before systemd is ready or before wake triggers are shut down. I've experienced this before on KDE too.
There's several ways you can go about fixing this, but the easiest solution and the only one which doesn't require you to fuck around with system config files is to just create a keyboard shortcut which runs "systemctl suspend". So, just go to Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts -> Add new -> Command. Then just enter "systemctl suspend" in the Command input, name it something like "sleep" and when you create it assign some shortcut to it.
If you want to troubleshoot this further you can look into what's happening in these two:
journalctl -b -u systemd-logind
journalctl -b | grep -iE "suspend|resume|sleep"

if i install arch, install gnome on it, then want to gradually move to hyprland until i've worked out all the quirks, would the gnome install still leave a fuckton of wasteful services running that i need to manually disable later?

>>106356665
Yes. Unless you uninstall all the dependencies with it risking of breaking other things

>>106356657
Spectacle somewhat frequently freezes my entire system for minutes at a time. I've had to do hard resets. It's truly awful. Or maybe it's just Wayland.

>>106356745
ah fuck.
i guess pacman has a "uninstall deps" option at least.
now i'm considering going with fucking omarchy.

>>106356665
most services only run after you log into the DE. So, while you're in Hyprland nothing GNOME related should run unless your login manager runs it.

>>106356765
ah ok, good point.

>>106354178
BLOAT

Why did we move to wayland when most features aren't supported yet?

>>106356352
>but you should use pdf for presentations
Thanks bossman. Very informative. I am sure the roaches in your basement enjoy your presentation.

>>106354291
I recently moved downtown and there's a lot of small businesses here. I meet a lot of people and hand out business cards to every business owner I meet. My business model is basically "tech? I got you covered." They pay out the ass because I say it's free but they can donate if they want. Business owners throw thousands at me when I would have charged much less.

>>106354178
Hey that's literally me

>>106356805
Because most features are supported. There's only a handful of things that don't work yet.

>>106356805
>when most features aren't supported yet?
it's the year of 2000 + 25 now anon

>>106356813
Latex Beamer is the way

>>106356835
>There's only a handful of things that don't work yet.
Really now?
It doesn't support x11 forwarding, no support for window selection, many emulators are falling back to x11.
>>106356846
And? where's still using wheels

>>106356869
>many emulators are falling back to x11.
so? xwayland works fine. This is like complaining that a lot of software is still 32bit. It doesn't matter if there's a layer for backwards compatibility.

>>106356944
>xwayland works fine
No, it doesn't support various things.
Like mouse injection, performance is also subpar compared to x11.
I'm not complaining about 32bit though man.

>>106355800
nvm that systemd suspend dosnt work as well....

>>106356869
>It doesn't support x11 forwarding
Even before wayland that often wasn't supported.

>do system update
>open Appimage app
>new version is out do you want to update?
I fucking hate appimages. Who thought this was a good idea?

>>106357046
Check the logs with those two commands and see if there's any device or process that's waking up your PC.

You can also troubleshoot with chatgpt. Send it something like:
>My CachyOS/Arch KDE Plasma desktop has the following bug: when it suspends (hitting the sleep button on my PC case, clicking the "Sleep" button in GUI, or running "systemctl suspend") it wakes up almost instantly. It does not happen if I let it automatically sleep after 15 minutes.
>Why does this happen and how can I fix it?
It's generally useful when troubleshooting common issues.

Alternatively you could try using hibernation instead of suspend.

>>106357132
Use Gear Lever.

>>106356461
i do that with scrot
mkdir -p /tmp/scrot/; cd /tmp/scrot/; scrot -z --quality 100 -e 'xclip -selection clipboard -t image/png -i $f'

mkdir -p ~/Pictures/; cd ~/Pictures/; scrot -z -u --quality 100

mkdir -p /tmp/scrot/; cd /tmp/scrot/; scrot -z -u --quality 100 -e 'xclip -selection clipboard -t image/png -i $f'

mkdir -p ~/Pictures/; cd ~/Pictures/; scrot -z --quality 100

mkdir -p ~/Pictures/; cd ~/Pictures/; scrot -z --quality 100 -f -s -l color="#000000"

mkdir -p /tmp/scrot/; cd /tmp/scrot/; scrot -z --quality 100 -f -s -l color="#000000" -e 'xclip -selection clipboard -t image/png -i $f'

FILENAME=qrcode_$(date +%s.%N).png
/bin/scrot --quality 100 -f -s -l color="#000000" -F /tmp/$FILENAME
/bin/zbarimg --raw /tmp/$FILENAME | xclip -selection clipboard
/bin/rm /tmp/$FILENAME

>>106356835
lies, nothing fucking works, you cant even capture your screen with ffmpeg, you need to do retarded bullshit and use cancer like OBS, you cant stream your monitor to rtmp using ffmpeg (let alone applying filters or anything in real time with ffmpeg), you cant even fucking remap keys
go bind the <>| key on ISO keyboards to Super_L, and CAPS to another ESC, i'll wait.
>>106357084
it literally works for over 30 years now, X11 was designed around client-server architecture.
>>106357132
use gentoo, i have never used (and will never use) flatpak, snap, appimages, or any of the other garbage.
>>106356944
i would complain if any of my software was 32 bit, because that usually means i don't have the source code and can't compile 64 bit binaries

>>106357236
>it literally works for over 30 years now,
by standard, it has been disabled for a while now.

What updated distro will just replace win10? I’m new and afraid of my OS swap incoming (I’m nuking windows). Full AMD gaming pc. Fedora42? Mint22.2? PikaOS? Atomic/immutable/mutable? there’s too many choices for a noob.

>>106357278
i'm making the same move but i'm probably somewhat further ahead in understanding the landscape than you having used or even running arch or ubuntu on various devices currently, just not my main.
i think a good move would be just to install debian and gnome.
don't worry about atomic or immutable shit.
mint is just debian/ubuntu. don't go for downstream distros, they all suck.
idek what pikaos is lmao.
fedora is okay but debian is just a better distro tb h.
the only real choices are debian or arch. arch + gnome could also work. but i feel like the rolling release thing may piss off a windows user eventually.
only other thing you need to care about is the filesystem choice, go with btrfs.

what do yall do when you dont have any sort of project or issue going on?

>>106357307
Thank you anon. I will test out Debian 13 today too

>>106357338
i think you'll be okay with it. go for the large iso. netinst is ass. as long as you stick with one of the main upstream distros you'll generally be fine but yeah debian is a great choice.

>>106357278
If you want to do gaming, don't go with a stable distro (since those come with out of date drivers unless you go out of your way to fix it), that means debian and everything derived from it (ubuntu, mint) are out.
Atomic/immutable/mutable is a meme, you don't need it. Compiling shit yourself is a meme, you don't need it. Go with a big dsitro, not some 1-man side project. (So you can find help in case of problems)

>>106357236
>you cant even capture your screen with ffmpeg
Why would you do this when you can just use spectacle or OBS? Just autism/minimalism?
>you cant even fucking remap keys
Is there any reason to remap keys when global keyboard shortcuts work? I don't see why you would ever have to remap a key instead of just getting a keyboard which doesn't have a retarded layout.
In any case, you absolutely can create custom keyboard layouts on KDE and they work completely fine on Wayland. I assume GNOME would also support this too.

>>106357278
>Full AMD gaming pc
Just use Bazzite, it's easy and stable.
>Atomic
This is a Fedora-only feature/terminology. It's just the method system updates are applied, being more reliable than traditional updates.
>Immutable
Immutable distros break less simply because you're not allowed to fuck around with your system files. So they're ideal for beginners or people who want a stable environment and aren't deep into ricing and system configuration.
The only downside is software which isn't provided as flatpak, appimage or in the fedora repositories. In which case you'll have to use distrobox.

>>106357307
>don't go for downstream distros, they all suck.
Terrible advice. The whole point of downstream distros is for them to be set up as much as possible for a target audience. Upstream distros are for advanced users.

>>106357359
>Terrible advice. The whole point of downstream distros is for them to be set up as much as possible for a target audience. Upstream distros are for advanced users.
fucking hell this is retarded. maybe even trolling because it's that fucking retarded.

>>106357236
>go bind the <>| key on ISO keyboards to Super_L, and CAPS to another ESC, i'll wait.
Keys can be remapped with udev independently of the compositor

>>106357227
>Use Gear Lever
great another program on my 250GB ssd (that probably need to run in the background in some capacity)
>>106357236
>i have never used (and will never use) flatpak, snap, appimages, or any of the other garbage
my problem is that I need specific applications that offer limited support for linux so they might just provide an appimage or snap (I don't mind flatpak, discover integrates and updates them).

>>106357359
>Upstream distros are for advanced users.
That was only the case back then when ubuntu tried to fix some of the retardations of debian. But not only has debian dialed back on those, ubuntu also introduced its own bullshit so it can no longer be recommended to anyone.

looking for anon to try warcraft3 patch 1.26 multiplayer over wireguard. the test is to check broadcast packet via socat or other. can share game.

>>106357368
Find me 1 person who unironically believes installing and using Debian is easier than Mint or Ubuntu. Or that installing and using Arch is easier than EndeavourOS, Garuda or Manjaro. Or that installing and using Fedora is easier than Bazzite. I'll wait.
Minimalism-obsessed autists and contrarians don't count.

>>106357400
>250GB ssd
That's plenty for an entire OS exclusively using appimages, anon.

>>106357410
>That was only the case back then
It still is now.
>Debian is out of date and relies on Flatpaks/Appimages to be usable. And requires manually installing the latest non-LTS kernel and Mesa if you want a functioning modern system.
>Fedora doesn't come with pretty much required proprietary dependencies and requires users to know about and enable RPM Fusion.
>Arch is something an average person wouldn't know or want to install because it's entirely dependent on the CLI. And it's requires you to keep track of their forum to learn about breaking updates and how to manually fix your system.
None of these 3 would be considered usable by an average person.

>>106357438
>Find me 1 person who unironically believes installing and using Debian is easier than Mint or Ubuntu. Or that installing and using Arch is easier than EndeavourOS, Garuda or Manjaro. Or that installing and using Fedora is easier than Bazzite. I'll wait.
>Minimalism-obsessed autists and contrarians don't count.
this is really ignorant. debian's install process is no more difficult than ubuntu's. never was, actually.

>>106357438
>>Arch is something an average person wouldn't know or want to install because it's entirely dependent on the CLI. And it's requires you to keep track of their forum to learn about breaking updates and how to manually fix your system.
Ah got it, you're dumb.

>>106357438
If you count disabling all the snap and other ubuntu bullshit as part of the installation then yes, debian is easier to install.
Also, you make it sound like it's hard to select next a few times. The only part that was hard about installing debian was finding the installation iso that doesn't strip the drivers you need for freetard reasons.

>>106357478
>The only part that was hard about installing debian was finding the installation iso that doesn't strip the drivers you need for freetard reasons.
They stop doing that since Debian 12. You only need to tick install all proprietary drivers in Calamares

>>106357520
hence was, not is.

>>106355380
A few years ago, maybe I would have agreed,
But Canonical is going full corp,
So just use Mint.

>>106356869
Waypipe is basically the x11 forwarding equivalent.

As the linuxfag types away on his ancient machine,
His cracked thinkpad screen turns from black into green
His sperm-coated hands have an odd tasting flavor,
As he lifts a dorito into his mouth all the while lacking disfavor
He held a girl's hand when he was about nine,
Which he brags about constantly while wasting his time,
He prefers his OS free and windows tiled,
And whenever he sees a young girl he exclaims "I'd defile"

>>106357606
Doesn't work smoothly the way x11 do, and require both machines to be running wayland.
And didn't answer to the rest of the post
What's the wayland equivalent of this?
xdotool selectwindow windowunmap &

I apologize if this is stupid question.
I'm using bottles from the flatpak as recommended and gamescope from the flatpak as well.
Some games start a small logo window and then start the real game.
So gamescope only apply to that first window and fail to start the next window, not to mention some games don't like the resolution I set it too.
My workaround is to start the whole bottle within gamescope and then start the games. which is stupid IMO.
Any idea how to fix this?
The reason most of these games are from early 2000s (800x600) so it doesn't like the 1080p resolution and have to scale it up with gamescope.

>>106357267
works for me though, its disabled by default because it prevents you from making use of performance improvements, modern X11 actually runs better than gayland thanks to them
if you don't actually use X11 forwarding, there's no point in fucking your performance up
>>106357359
>why would you do this
because OBS is laggy as shit, and doesn't even support my ""outdated"" GPU
also i like applying filters, and i need the ability to script with ffmpeg, i also stream to my own rtmps server using randomized stream IDs (for screensharing, because i hate webshit)
>remapping keys? YOU DONT NEED THIS
i have a keyboard that predates windows and lacks a super key
as for caps to esc, i use vim and don't want my wrists to hurt from reaching up to the esc key
>custom keyboard layouts on kde
what if i don't want to use kde, but something like sway? i don't like DEs.
>>106357387
clusterfuck, but tell me how to if thats so easy
>>106357400
>specific applications
like what?
if its not packaged, you can write an ebuild, compile it and dont pack it into a flatpak
>>106357650
wayland doesnt even have anything close to xdotool for input, let alone changing the selection
your best bet is to figure out how to do this with your compositor, because all the (non-)functionality is thrown into the compositor.
if it doesnt support that, youre out of luck lol

>>106356869
This is every Wayland anti in a nutshell.
>not ready yet; so many things missing
>actually just this one thing
>actually just this one abandonware program
>and my nvidia gpu

>>106357691
>what if i don't want to use kde, but something like sway? i don't like DEs.
At that point you're avoiding functional and working solutions for a janky piece of shitware.
And considering you're a tinkerer, you could've done your own research and found out that there is a universal solution for Wayland to do keyboard key re-mapping.

>>106357460
>>106357468
>copium

>>106356805
Because you can't enforce DRM (rights management one, not rendering) under X, and (((corporations))) are not ok with that.

>>106357691
>wayland doesnt even have anything close to xdotool for input, let alone changing the selection
kek
>if it doesnt support that, youre out of luck lol
I'm using KDE so kwin?
>>106357711
This isn't anti-wayland.
I agree with many of their philosophy but it should be implemented.
Look at pipewire, it's solid audio experience on linux.
>>106357762
Well I still can't get 4K on youtube.

>>106357691
>clusterfuck, but tell me how to if thats so easy
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Map_scancodes_to_keycodes
I used it in the past to swap the fn keys on my logitech keyboard

>>106357650
All waypipe needs is for both systems to have waypipe, the wayland libraries and the program itself installed. The same as x11 forwarding

>>106357836
No, you need active wayland running

I honestly believe the anti-Wayland fags to have the same brain problems as anti-Systemd fags. It must unironically be bona-fide autism, I have no other explanation.

>>106357762
Kind of, DRM is implemented by utilising MPO which isn't directly dependent on whatever display server your using, in fact Wayland compositors don't utilise it outside of rendering the cursor; Linux is so far behind the curve on low-powered efficient rendering Android was doing it better over a decade ago.

>>106357883
Dont know where you heard that from but you don't.

>>106358006
I tried it anon.
Because i listened to AIbot advice like yourself

>>106357711
except wayland doesn't even come close to filling half of my real-world usecases
also a lot of shit is simply broken, and each compositor breaks in a different way, while handling things differently
on X11 this is dead simple, everything is the same because we actually have a real standard
if you want to really stick to the wayland "standard" and build a compositor, try weston, it does exactly that
see how useful and usable weston is, you can't do JACKSHIT with it.
if you want to screen record, you need kikewire, dbus, xdg-desktop-portal bullshit, wireplumber, and a bunch of other crap (probably another daemon running 24/7 in the background for no reason)
i hate daemons that run without actually doing anything, just waiting for something to connect to them. this is what sockets were invented for, USE THEM.
>whaaat you want to show your keystrokes on screen or simulate keyboard input? just run everything as root, this is so much more secure!
>rust is also secure, thats why our official documentation tells you to pipe curl into sh directly, and why cargo will download random unsigned untrusted shit during the build phase even if you explicitly tell it not to do that, and even spoonfeed it all of the dependencies it asks for
>>106357728
KDE is NOT functional, plus i don't use modern hardware because of the backdoors (and because i need something that forces me to optimize my software)
i3 is a lot more functional than KDE
>>106357762
this makes me want to stick with X until the end of time
>>106357784
kwin i guess, but you can configure that somewhere in the keybinds (if you can configure it at all)
>>106357834
didnt work for me when i tried that 2 years ago
editing /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc is way easier too

>>106358025
Are you talking about active wayland on the client or the server? Because you only need wayland running on the system you're doing the ssh on. The same as x11 forwarding.

A certain application on my desktop computer has become slow to start when it was previously very fast. As far as I can tell, no other users of this application have reported this problem with this application -- I have done a general internet search query and I have looked at the application's github "issues" page.
How do I go about figuring out why this application has become slow to start?
Do I need benchmarking tools?
A debugger?
Where do I start?

>>106358261
On the client.

>>106358662
>Where do I start?
Launch it from a terminal and see if its outputting anything on stdout.

Arch refugee here. Whats the debian based equivalent of the aur?

>>106358713
There isn't unless you count Flatpak or Snap.

>>106358713
None.

>>106358713
why are you a refugee from arch then?
if you're using the AUR, you already know you're taking your life into your own hands.
do what i do, go full no-AUR and you'll be good.

why is this dogshit included with every single browser?

>>106357899
soon:
>anti-KDE fags, when KDE becomes the standard DE
>anti-flatpak fags, when Flatpak becomes the de-facto way to deliver GUI software
>anti-immutable fags, when all desktop distros switch to immutable systems

>>106358108
>i don't use modern hardware because of the backdoors
Schizophrenia?

>>106358713
Github/Gitlab

>>106358888
It isn't, It's included with KDE.

>>106358888
It's a KDE feature. Your distro maintainers should have set up the wallet for you. Since they didn't, you're supposed to at least click "blowfish" without a password and that's pretty much it.

>>106358896
>Github/Gitlab
That's called compiling from sources.
>>106358713
Random repositories.
>>106357994
Why isn't Android for desktop PCs a thing already?

>>106359013
>Why isn't Android for desktop PCs a thing already?
It is. But the only "active" project is just shit and out of date.
So the best thing you can do now is use Waydroid and at least have a functional OS in addition to Android.

>>106358896
>>106359013
huh? then how do you know you're getting the official program and not some randos fork or copycat?

>>106359041
So, it isn't really.
Why can't I have a simple android-x86_64.tar.gz, extract it to a vacant filesystem and boot it up with a Linux/Android EFI-stub kernel? Damn Android so weird, I want everything as bootstrappable tarball.
>>106359067
That's the "AUR equivalent".

>>106359013
>Why isn't Android for desktop PCs a thing already?
It is, but it isn't a good fit, a lot of Android's subsystems don't have enough features to handle the complexities of a fully featured desktop environment.

>>106359067
>huh? then how do you know you're getting the official program and not some randos fork or copycat?
What? no binary you install on Linux are the "official program", every single package is a randos fork, AUR is literally you just running some script somebody else wrote.

>>106359185
Well the program is the same they just compiled it themselves.

>>106354125 (OP)
How many of you guys use Tumbleweed and why?

>>106359231
Not necessarily, a lot of packages are patched and don't correspond to any upstream version and until very recently a vast majority of builds weren't reproducible so you couldn't even determine if the binaries you downloaded were produced from the reported pkg.

>>106359185
official binaries do exist though. Usually no reason to use those (unless your distro is retarded)

>>106359309
That doesn't really matter except sometimes you encounter retarded projects that say "If you can't reproduce it with our officially support toolchain used to compile our officially supported binary package in our officially supported Flatpak then when we're not interested in hearing from you".

Some upstreams are really hostile to churn until it catches up to them and they fix it anyway.

>>106359497
t. Jia Tan

>>106359067
What are you confused about? When using Github/Gitlab you have absolute transparency on who is working on the project, unlike AUR where you just know who created a script to install a package (which is usually some 3rd party random person, rather than the developer)

>>106358688
Well of course you would need wayland running on the client. Thats like complaining that you need xorg running on the client for x11 forwarding to work.

>>106358713
There's a few third party ones but i dont think any of them ever gained traction

is there a hurd general ?

>>106359880
create a /fght/

>>106356805
we don't have to. i use both. some apps are broken in x11, and others in wayland

>>106358896
>schizophrenia
even wikigreedia tells you that the IME is a backdoor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine
>>106359102
because android is a toy operating system, and ARM is a toy architecture (reduced instruction set)
it doesn't even have ACPI, you have to hard code (or guess) I/O ports, so you need a separate OS image for EACH FUCKING TARGET BOARD/CPU
also there is no standard partitioning for that either, the bootloaders are proprietary, all of them have weird read-only partitions you're not supposed to modify or delete, and some have the "recovery" in the boot.img or even worse, boot related shit in the recovery partition, so good luck installing custom recoveries without preventing it from booting normally.
don't even get me started on the A/B slot mental retardation nonsense.

>>106361478
>IME is a backdoor
Just don't expose your Intel network adapter to the Internet schizo. It's not like anyone is going to burn a hardware backdoor going after your loli feet pics anyway.
>arm
EFI and u-boot are fairly prevalent on ARM. Most devices with proprietary boot loaders are built that way on purpose.
>doesn't even have ACPI
It's a joke anyway. Everything has to be tested with specific kernels to work.

>>106358896
"immutable" is not immutable and also stupid, unless they treat etc like the home directory as a non-immutable partition.

>>106361621
>It's a joke anyway. Everything has to be tested with specific kernels to work.
But you fix it once in the kernel instead of the ARM way of fix it once in the device tree and this has to be packaged and distributed with a device specific kernel for the hardware in question instead of fixed once in a generic ARM kernel.

ACPI is still the better model even if it's not perfect because everything can be centralised.

>>106361625
>unless they treat etc like the home directory as a non-immutable partition.
This is how most immutable distros work. Fedora ones leave /etc mutable and even SteamOS does so.

>>106361643
In practice this never happens because most vendors use whatever Windows does as the standard, because ACPI is a joke, and open source devs refuse to support non-compliant hardware.

>>106361668
It happens on X86 but yes, the ARM acpi stuff is utter crap. Linux tried to use it but it doesn't contain all of the stuff they need, it's not properly spec compliant at all.

There's absolutely no reason for this though other as you say Windows becoming the standard way of doing things and not testing anything else.

>>106361621
>durr hurr don't use your computer
>noooo you totally have nothing to hide and nothing to fear
if you have nothing to hide, tell me your full legal name and credit card number, plus the expiration date and the numbers on the back
>ACPI is a joke
meds

>>106362064
>tell me your full legal name and credit card number, plus the expiration date and the numbers on the back
Sure, if you have a warrant for this information. If you already work for the government or my bank, you already know this info and you don't need a backdoor to get it.

>>106362182
then give me access to all the files on your hard drive, and a full remote access backdoor as root

why is everyone using btrfs? i genuinely don't get it. and you cant say snapshots unless you've actually used one at least once

>>106362391
COW

>>106362391
i'd use it if i wasn't already using zfs

>be COW
>write slower
>???
>profit

What do people use to adjust a custom resolution in qemu/kvm? I just want to be able to drag the corners to get it to a specific size.

Did 4chan start using cloudflare captchas just recently or was I able to inadvertently bypass them this entire time?

>>106362584
it's been like one and a half years or so
it's more common on mobile networks, it seems

>>106362584
you need the spice guest drivers installed, the display spice and channel (spice) specified in the guest configuration

>>106354125 (OP)
Why *shouldn’t* I change from Windows 10 to XFCE Mint? I already have one reason: printer incompatibility. Any more thoughts?

>>106362391
Snapshots and I've had to use it once, it worked fine

>>106362391
its ZFS but shittier, and with way more corruption
retards want fancy features but don't want to use ZFS for some reason, if you NEED fancy features you should use ZFS, otherwise ext4.
>>106362672
because mint is debian/ubuntu based, so it has a shitty package manager
switch to something not debian based, not immutable/atomic, and not made by trannies (that excludes anything debian based, nixOS, void, and anything made by redhat)

Is there a distro that's a minimal debian unstable but not completely bare-bones? Basically looking for an excuse to not just install Debian Unstable + a random DE.

Someone please recommend me a new ebook reader, the one that came with Linux Mint by default(xReader) is pissing me off. It keeps randomly scrolling the page, and when I alt-tab, half the time I end up 20 pages down from where I left off

>>106362391
It's the default with an automated install of Fedora. You can also duplicate files and not have them use additional space in the filesystem unless one is modified (reflinks). With ext4 you'd only be able to make hard links but changing one file will change them all. ext4 will not report on silent data corruption. btrfs has checksums to pick up that.

>>106363003
zathura

>>106362921
>not immutable/atomic
NTA but how come? I've been looking into Fedora atomic distros they seem interesting.

>couldn't upate kernel for a day until I ran chown -R root /lib
wtf why did fedora sabotage me

>>106362391
Transparent compression, giving extra space. Snapshots, btrfs send/receive for easy backups. Also it's nice following it's development in the kernel. It used to be way shittier than it is right now. Still has some.issues every once in a while. I would have a machine with bcachefs if it wasnt removed by shitters and Linus. Might still add it because the dev seems to be willing to follow mainline even with dkms.

>>106363925
you will suffer if you have to install anything or modify your root filesystem at all, imagine not even being able to edit system configs, immutable distros are retarded.
they only strip away your control over your operating system and block your path when you're trying to do something, as a "safety net" to prevent idiots from fucking up their computers
windows does this to some extent (something similar, not exactly the same, but with the same outcome), to prevent you from deleting system32
>>106363939
also this, immutable distros are broken toys.

>>106363003
Foliate

>>106364012
Actually, "immutable" are unbroken toys by design. They just work.

Has anyone managed to download Google Takeout over CLI?
Seems like it makes you login again before each link will start downloading, I haven't managed to get it to download without using a graphical browser.

>>106363413
Unfortunately it's too much minimalist for me, I couldn't even copy selected text to clipboard
>>106364043
I'll try this one, thanks

>>106364243
zathura is dead simple, everything you need is in the manpage, you just have to actually read it.
you literally just select text and it copies that, middle click into something
also if you want to set it to your 'clipboard clipboard' (^V) instead of the primary clipboard (middle click), put this into your ~/.config/zathura/zathurarc:
set selection-clipboard clipboard

>>106362391
Checksumming. Snapshots. Compression.
>>106362428
Saar
>>106362672
If you have an Nvidia card the gaming performance will be worse.
>>106362921
ZFS has corruption more often.
>>106362947
Sparkylinux

>>106359497
Bottles is like this, unsurprisingly it's run by trannies.

Is the only nvidia-friendly wayland WM hyprland? I tried using Sway but the thing doesn't even seem to run when I triy.

>>106357338
Don't listen to that retard. Debian doesn't update versions for two years, you are going to be using ancient packages.
Install Fedora or if you don't want post-install fuckery install ultramarine linux.

>>106364377
>bitches about shit not getting updooted
>shill some tard hobby os thatll get abandoned in literally 4 weeks
huh

>>106362947
Siduction?

>>106362391
I don't think Arch would let me boot into ZFS

>>106364308
Well Foliate for some reason made my book look all blurry so I'll try zathura again
>also if you want to set it to your 'clipboard clipboard' (^V) instead of the primary clipboard (middle click), put this into your ~/.config/zathura/zathurarc:
set selection-clipboard clipboard
Sorry, I'm still somewhat new to Linux so I didn't know there was two different clipboards.

>>106364468
>fedora is a hobby os
You are a niggerlover.

>>106364468
Fedora?

https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/1myip6l/arch_keeps_dropping_http_connections_since_today/
Someone with a plebbit account should tell the poor bastard >>106350321

>>106364541
>>106364545
>ultramarine linux.
Thanks for the (you)s, I guess.

>>106364634
Ultramarine is fedora

>>106364649
And hannah montana linux is kubuntu.

>>106364485
X11 has a retarded thing called a primary clipboard (normally stuff is copied to that by merely selecting text, and you paste it with middle click), and the 'normal' clipboard, which you copy to with CTRL C and paste with CTRL V (at least in most cases, in a terminal you probably have CTRL SHIFT C and CTRL SHIFT V)
also ^V means CTRL V because ^ is short for CTRL, so if you see a ^C in your terminal, now you know why.
^C and ^V are already taken, ^C cancels something you are running
the CTRL SHIFT * binds are handled by your terminal emulator, while your shell (probably bash) also probably has ancient copypaste support, but that has nothing to do with your X11 clipboard. in bash, ^K copies (called 'kill ring' for some retarded reason, but it comes from emacs), and ^U pastes.
^V would be verbatim insert, aka the next character you insert will be inserted literally.
don't even get me started on clipboard managers and how X11 handles your clipboard by copying the information about what data to copy out of a window, instead of the actual data, so copying something from a terminal, closing the terminal, then trying to paste it somewhere else (without a clipboard manager) won't work.
tl;dr: unix clipboards are a clusterfuck and a crime against humanity.

>>106354472
>Turns out you can encode harmful code into bytecode and run it via aplay or something.
You can use escape sequences to represent any text for a command, which obfuscates the command. The `` in there mean to take what's inside them, run it as a separate command, and use the output as part of the aplay command. But the separate command already does the dirty work, aplay isn't relevant at all. It's just there for part of the social engineering.

In this case, $'\x72\x6d' means the same thing as rm, and so on and so forth. You get the idea. It runs whatever file-deletion command, and then tells aplay to play... nothing, because the command didn't produce any output, it just deleted files.

>>106364870
here is something non malicious but still cool
https://mister-muffin.de/p/foTl.png

>>106356000
It's bold because anon's text highlighter is fucked up
It's capitalized because it's at the beginning of the sentence

>>106364904
Why on earth should I click that shit nigga

>>106364904
upon further analysis, you are clearly a raging homosexual

>>106362391
copy on write and resistance to data corruption. it's also a default on the distros I'm using, or it's the only other option aside from ext4. And no, I'm not doing manual partitioning.

>>106363925
Tinkerers hate immutable distros because they like to fuck around with system files they shouldn't, only to then have to fix their OS after an update breaks it.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with immutable distros, if anything they're much better than mutable ones.

>>106364541
>loving niggers is bad, actually
you're just jealous because your dick is small
>>106357278
install cachyos with xfs because it's objectively the best or something

>>106365440
>Tinkerers hate immutable distros because they like to fuck around with system files they shouldn't
Immutables actually encourage tinkering because they all allow you roll back to a usable state in case you do break it. Even the fedora atomic distros allow for it, usually there's a container file or a build.sh that you can edit to make changes at build time.
Many nixOS users tinker like crazy and they can tinker like a Gentoo user if they want, patching and customizing binaries to gain support for experimental features in packages, and roll back.
Most other immutable have AB root or snapshot based that allow simple rollbacks.

>>106362391
I use a btrfs for my root on two 1TB partitionless SSDs with ZSTD compression, enjoying the deduplication feature, and love it.
I have a separate /boot on a separate drive.

>>106365440
If you don't want to "tinker" then both mutable and immutable distros are identical in functionality, nobody goes around forcing people to do things that break their system.
And either way the option to break stuff is still there, because the majority of things that get broken are the distro maintainers or software developers fucking something up.

Like say for example that bug that caused btrfs to brick itself.

>>106365654
>that bug that caused btrfs to brick itself.
Wasn't this a kernel issue?

>>106362947
Vanilla OS

>>106359295
I don't any more. Tried it a few times but they pack too much bloat and make stupid choices, so I stopped. Also I'm too lazy to make a custom install with a non default DE like deepin or lxqt on it.

>>106365666
Yeah it was, but that doesn't change the point. The point being that it would affect both mutable and immutable installs because it is an issue with the actual software, not an issue with file system being tainted by user hands.

>>106365724
>Vanilla OS
I wanted to like it, but holy shit do I find GNOME unusable.

>>106365834
There are also images with KDE,
https://github.com/Kanola-Images/Kanola
Cosmic
https://github.com/singularityos-lab
and Hyprland
https://github.com/Kanola-Images/Hoisin

>Your Arch Linux PC is slower on WireGuard over Wi-Fi because the Linux MediaTek (MT7925E) driver doesn't support UDP offloading/aggregation (GRO/GSO). Every VPN packet is processed one-by-one, adding overhead. The macOS/Windows drivers batch UDP properly. WireGuard sends a huge number of small UDP packets at high speed. On Linux, your kernel is handling every single packet separately thousands of times per second. This is cheap but the sheer number of packets overwhelms the Wi-Fi stack. This is why your Wi-Fi speed is significantly slower than on Windows on the same PC.
Is this factually correct or is this thing hallucinating again? I only have a basic understanding of networking.

>>106365891
wireguard has very little overhead. are you actually experiencing any slowdown?

>install an update
>desktop behavior changes slightly
Every fucking DE does this. Can these asshole developers stop fucking with their settings for once? Every day I inch closer to taking the suckless pill just so no one will fuck with my setup.

I'm trying to verify mint .iso according to the linked instructions, and I'm failing the last authenticity check:
C:\Users\admin\Downloads>gpg --verify sha256sum.txt.gpg sha256sum.txt
gpg: verify signatures failed: Unknown system error

.iso and both sha256s are in the same folder.

>>106365857
Oh shit, I guess it makes sense considering they allow people to use their core OS as a base, just like Fedora Atomic.
>Hyprland Image
I might actually try this one since I wanted to check out why people love it so much. Although I'll probably stick with KDE in the end.

>>106366023
That's on windows, for the record.

Currently on a wayland only system, arch (btw). However, most GUI apps seem to just not respond to any clicks, yet it launches without errors/warnings. They do respond if I supply wayland support flags, (such as:
> alias android-studio='env QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb android-studio -Dawt.toolkit.name=WLToolkit'
> alias spotify='spotify --enable-features=UseOzonePlatform --ozone-platform=wayland --enable-wayland-ime')
But there are apps like steam where I haven't been able to identify if it has any such launch flag.
So, core questions:
> Would my system get really messy if I were to install x11 alongside wayland?
> Is there any "universal" launch flags I can use to run x11 compatible programs (without a full x11 install? I know xwayland is a thing, but I don't know how to invoke it.)

>>106366023
You're on Windows? Can you just run
certutil -hashfile "path to your ISO"

It should spit out the sha256sum. At that point just copy it and compare it to the text in sha256sum.txt. If the characters/numbers match, your .iso is fine.

But this whole thing is optional. It's unlikely that your .iso file got corrupted while downloading. You'd browser would usually warn you about it.

>>106366044
If you don't have certutil for some reason, you can also run
Get-FileHash "C:\Path\To\Your\Mint.iso" -Algorithm SHA256

>>106365891
hallucinating, big packets are well supported and that would slow down everything, and this doesn't matter until well past 1 Gbps

>Aur is down for more than 16 hours now
Ok who is doing this? And more importantly why? What does someone gain by wasting money and resources into trolling bunch of bumfuck nobody autists and dorks like this?
I am able to do what I wanted on the github mirror, life is not too bad, but this still sucks.

>>106366062
DDoS kids are the most annoying and sad creatures on the planet. Even sadder than the basement-dwellers on arch.

>>106366044
Ok, it worked, but sha1 it spit out differs from the sum file. This is unlikely to cause problems?

how do I get an sshfs mount to survive after sleep and wakeup?

>>106366062
>>106366114
idk it's probably not that expensive to ddos a small operation like the aur. to ddos you just rent a botnet, and it doesn't seem to be a consistent one

>>106366120
sha1 and sha256 are not the same thing and have to be different.
Dunno what kind of tools you have on your windows.

>>106366062
Some guy said extended ddos attacks are usually due to poor webpage design. The unstoppable high bandwidth ones dont shouldnt last long. I dont know shit about networking though so I have no idea. It's interesting that Arch won't just take the easy option and sign up for Cloudflare.

>>106366142
Yeah, how silly of me. I'm a brainlet.
Well I can always verify it after mounting a bootable, I think. Thanks for the help

https://github.com/ilya-zlobintsev/LACT
just used this to power limit my 5080 and do a pseudo undervolt. only got like 6% uplift (just did 400 for gpu and 2000 for ram) but took the powerlimit from 360W to 300W so neat all around

>>106354125 (OP)
anyone know how to stop trinity de from auto logging out i cant find any settings relating to that in the control center, i enabled a screen saver but it auto logouts before the screen save even triggers, the locker works if triggered manually so it must be a configuration thing

I killed my third USB boot installer today
always never know why

Is https://github.com/romkatv/zsh4humans safe? I am vary of scripts but i can't be arsed to config a ton of zsh plugins and just want something that works.

>tried something with ventoy on a brand new never used anywhere USB drive
>laptop with arch somehow couldn't detect it anymore after running ventoy
>plugged it into windows, it got detected, reformatted it
>plugged it back into laptop, ran ventoy on it again
>works perfectly now
?????????????
what?

>>106366946
>sh -c "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/romkatv/zsh4humans/v5/install)"
Fuck no it isn't.

>>106366980
Windows probably automatically checked and fixed a bunch of bad blocks, if you want to see if Linux complained about what your plugged it in use dmesg.

>>106354291
did it for a mate on a pentium 4 desktop (his family was not well off. I've also given him an old phone before when his was too old to run certain apps).
i installed ubuntu I think (this was in 2016).
If you can use a chromebook you can probably make the switch, lets be honest.

>>106366875
you killed a flash drive?
I usually clean them with diskpart after installing OSes as you can't usually just format them as-is.
maybe this is the issue? not sure what the equivalent program is in linux.

or maybe they just died. unlike HDDs, flash tends to die suddenly with no warning in my experience.

>>106366114
it's just bots. it's not like someone is sat there the whole time pushing buttons lol

>>106357368
The bazzite shill is a known troll

>>106358896
The only issue with flatpak are the people who are trying to force flatpak as the only package and are against distros packaging their own stuff like bottles. Those people might as well be saying to only install stuff from the google play store on android or whatever the store on windows is called

>>106363413
>>106364308
In my experience zathura is not really usable as a ebook reader

>>106362584
You need spice-vdagent installed and autostarted but last i checked it only worked properly on GNOME and maybe KDE

any anons really understand the difference between hyprland and swaywm?
what are good reasons to pick either?

>>106367363
Distros are the ones to blame for that, they kept breaking packages which resulted in users reporting problems that didn't exist upstream.

>>106361621
>Intel network adapter
You don't seem to understand what IME is.

>>106367408
Weird how that never happens with any other package packaged by distros and only with bottles

Just got a 200 dollar computer for my 4 yo daughter and I'm putting ubuntu server on it. I'm recreating a modern version of the experience I had with my first family computer, a Tandy 1000 where you would first boot into dos and then use the command line to open programs.
So I'm partitioning her disk (keeping the OEM windows install as a backup OS), installing ubuntu server LTS, Xorg server, and Brave browser.
Her only usecase at the moment is when she wants to watch youtube videos, I'll also put on a drawing program (GIMP or Krita or Tuxpaint probably) and she can use my wacom tablet. She (only) watches educational videos and it really improves her english so I'm happy to do it. Plus I would rather get her on a computer experience like I had growing up consisting of a keyboard and a terminal, instead of the detail-hiding non-technical experience so many kids have using ipads or similar nowadays.

>>106366062
It might've been manjaro again doing something with pamac

actually i guess i should have included niri in the wayland wm question
so yeahany anons really understand the difference between niri, hyprland and swaywm?
what are good reasons to pick any?

>>106365857
Didnt know someone made a vanillaos kde but it looks like there's only one person working on it and isnt stable yet.

>>106367430
>only with bottles
Broadcasting how new you are this hard is shameful Anon. What's your favourite xscreensaver?

>>106355813
skil issue

>>106364870
The one saving grace was, apparently, that I closed the terminal pretty quickly after realising it "didn't do anything." Suggestion: encode an & at the end so it runs detached from the terminal for next time. My .local was left entirely untouched.

>>106366946
It doesnt look malicious but i wouldnt suggest you run shell scripts if you dont know what its doing.
Although theres a few red flags with this project, like why is it hiding all its configs in a separate git branch instead of in the master branch?
https://github.com/romkatv/zsh4humans/tree/v5
Maybe look at something like oh-my-zsh instead. Though i wouldn't recommend using it either.
>>106366986
Why is there a bunch of
>&2 'printf' '%s\n' 'hello world'
In that script? is it also redirecting the message to sterr? why >&2 at the start of the command and not at the end of the command?

>>106367487
As far as i know the xscreensaver issue had to do with upstream complaining about the package being out of date.

I need a distro for a 1 core 1.66hz 2gb of ram system
Already tried with mint with xfce and I had some issues

>>106367613
arch minimal install with a tiling wm, like sway

>>106367587
>why >&2 at the start of the command and not at the end of the command?
No reason other than how a programmer conceptualises redirection "the following command redirects output into", "redirect the output of command into", etc, the flow of execution is the same where ">&2" is placed.

>>106367613
If you want to stretch your limited resources as far as possible Tiny Core or Damn Small Linux, or even NetBSD.

>>106367613
antix or mx linux

>>106367695
So it doesnt matter whether >&2 is placed at the beginning or end of the command as both will do the same thing and redirect to sterr? This is the first time i've seen someone use >&2 at the start of the command.

Are there any fonts that are as crisp as ubuntu? I like the look of inter but it's ttf desu. Adwaita is also ttf, so not as good as ubuntu.

what the fuck?
on plasma wayland
all my fucking windows just closed and a bunch of notepads appeared on the desktop

Please make a note in the official /g/ records that I'm now using Slackware.
Thank you.

>>106366062
Jesus christ even the wiki is down? Thank god I chose gentoo last month when I switched distro.

>>106355306

run 720p @ 25" then scale 1.3 soon might aswell sell cams

>>106367587
>like why is it hiding all its configs in a separate git branch instead of in the master branch
Should i uninstall what it installed? Is that enough? Or is it too late? t. paranoid about malware.

>>106367613
antix would work.
>>106367743
Just rip fonts from a windows install and use them.
You can rip them from the iso too.

>>106367173
IIRC the equivalent on Linux to diskpart's clean command is wipefs.

>>106367743
I like dejavu. But i guess you've already tried it?

>>106367844
If it was malicious then it would already be too late. Next time you should read the stuff you're installing first. For someone paranoid about malware you seem to have no issue with running a random script off github.

>>106367743
windows fonts

I am trying to setup gaming on Linux and I don't like it a bit. It brings all the bad Windows parts.
Next time someone asks me for help I am purchasing them a Win11 license.
>Steam requires sudo to launch, simply because it downloads its own dependencies through an additional program, rather than as a dependency in package, managed to figure out what I need by logs
>additionally it needs i386 versions
>Lutris automatically adds EVERYTHING and ALL the possible capabilities it can into wine prefix, so far I cannot figure out how to stop that
>All the extra gaming software is basically 90's level of rubbish that exists as part of the OS
>apparently anti-cheat that scan my golang projects and tries to recursively scan git folders was ported
Gaming is rubbish.
Gamers are not people and we need to gatekeep Linux from them and their gaylord DRM leader Gaben.

>>106368014
>Steam requires sudo to launch
Bro your distro's steam package is FUCKED

>>106367759
found your problem

>>106354291
Mom has been using Kubuntu since forever, 10+ years.
Her workflow would never be portable to anything else, unless I somehow made Dolphin and Plasma's Desktop Search work on Windows.

>>106367760
Please keep us updated when you come crawling back to Debian or Arch.
It's kinda neat that Slackware still exists, but there's literally zero reason to use it today, other than for a very weird brag.

>>106368014
You complain about issues that were fixed many years ago.
Just install Steam from flatpak.

>>106368083
>Debian or Arch
anon gets it
eventually this entire general and even entire board will get it. the distro wars are over. and there are 2 distinct choices now.
debian and arch.

>>106368106
Arch and Debian have been the two real choices for ages now (Gentoo can come too.)

>>106368030
It was from the Steam's official page.
Steam is a DRM. Gamers are either underage, or stupid (and highly opinionated about stuff the don't understand).

>>106368104
>Note: This is a community package of Steam gaming plaform not officially supported by Valve. Report bugs through linked issue tracker.
Flatpak isn't a miracle solution.
"Community" means that someone either puts malware, maintains it for portfolio and abandons it whenever they get a stable job, or gets paid.

>>106357460
>t. first installed a Linux distro in 2024

>>106357899
Nailed it.

>>106368014
What distro are you using? Steam shouldnt be asking for sudo. And those i386 dependencies should've been pulled in with steam since steam is a 32bit-only package.

>>106368153
>2005*
Ubuntu 5.04 iirc

>>106359185
>no binary you install on Linux are the "official program"
Laughs in Snap. Also, tons of vendors publish DEB and RPM packages.

>>106368145
>It was from the Steam's official page.
You're not on Windows anymore. On Linux, you don't download packages from some website with your browser to install it.
That official package from Steam isn't for you. It's for your distro's maintainers, who modify and re-package it for your distro, so you can install it easily using your package manager.
It's their job to deal with dependencies and permissions, not yours.
And they do that work for free!

>>106359185
>every single package is a randos fork
But it's not a rando, it's a maintainer of my distro of whom I know the full name in most cases.
If he puts malware in my xfce packages, I can go visit Michał Górny in person and punch him in the face.

>>106368145
>Note: This is a community package of Steam gaming plaform not officially supported by Valve.
You don't understand Linux. Everything including your OS is community maintained and has no official support. But if you ever tried to contact Microsoft Support as an end consumer, you'll soon find out that official support means fuck-all.

>>106367437
Sounds like a nice educational project with good intentions.
Worst case scenario, she doesn't like the result but you still got to spend time doing something together.

>>106367560
The & wouldn't detach the process from the terminal, it just makes it run in the background of that shell instance. Closing the terminal window would still terminate it.

>>106368162
Ubuntu 24.04

>>106368203
>>106368257
Most of "Linux people" are actually paid. Including E Bassi. But it is usually complicated to explain. But yes, most packages are actually repackaged/build by these people. Still, flathub and snap are android store QC of Linux.

>But if you ever tried to contact Microsoft Support
I don't. They do try to contact me, sometimes.

>>106367385
i dont know what makes something 'usable as an ebook reader' for you, but it displays pdfs, has search, has keybinds, can display pages in different arrangements, remembers my last open page, and displays other formats like epub too
do you need more?

>>106367437
>4 yo daughter
you're fucking insane. let the kid play outside you low iq deranged cunt.

>>106368319
>Most of "Linux people" are actually paid. Including E Bassi. But it is usually complicated to explain.
I am interested to hear how regardless.

>>106368492
>I am interested to hear how regardless.
The big distributions have enterprise versions.
Offshoot distributions have "support" free.
Smaller ones accept donations - these donations are from corporations, not fanboys like on twitch.

A lot of professional packages are actually commercial, but due to FOSS they need to maintain opensource status - again you pay for a "service".

Then you've got people like curl project that get paid by everyone, because they're the brick that keeps everything from falling apart.
That covers most of software.

The rest is portfolio padding. Malicious actors paid by unknown people, or just adding malware.

And real community effort in 2025 is a small %.

>>106367423
Maybe you don't understand how information flow works.

archsisters...

>>106368319
>They do try to contact me
It's another episode of can't tell if boomer or zoomer

have you ever had problems with the system not waking from sleep? I think it's a UEFI setting but I can't figure out which one
(secureboot disabled, expo enabled, rest is stock)

New thread:
>>106369174

>>106368323
I have no issue with pdfs in zathura, it just can't handle epub files well for some reason in my experience.

>>106368145
You should've been installing steam from your package manager and not from the .deb they provide on their site.

>>106369478
you need to install the epub plugin
app-text/zathura-meta with USE="epub"
(or search for 'zathura' using your package manager and look for epub/meta plugin stuff)

>>106367363
>against distros packaging their own stuff
Yes. A distro shouldn't act as a fucking distributor. That's just retarded and is guaranteed to lead to issues. It's one of the biggest reasons why desktop linux was a joke for the longest time.

>>106356761
Omarchy is really easy and straightforward. I brought some stuff from it to My main arch machine. Like fuzzy package search.