Thread 106386939

Tuesday and you're still unemployed edition
>Interviewing
Neetcode 150: https://neetcode.io/practice
Tips and interview practice: https://blog.interviewing.io/

>How to write a resume
https://github.com/0xCyberY/CVE-T4PDF

>Salary Stuff
"What's your expected salary?": https://www.fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/salary-expectations-interview-question/
Negotiation advice: https://github.com/petermekhaeil/salary-negotiating
Salary data: https://levels.fyi/

>Software Development & Programming
GitHub Trending - https://github.com/trending
DevDocs - https://devdocs.io/
JavaScript, CSS, HTML resources - https://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/opensecret.htm
MDN Web Docs - https://developer.mozilla.org/
Stack Overflow Blog - https://stackoverflow.blog/

>IT Operations & Infrastructure
Is for chumps with a job

>Unemployment Advice
Interview Prep - https://www.wikihow.com/Ask-Your-Parents-for-Money
Building a Resume - https://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Manifesto
Salary Stuff - https://www.usa.gov/benefit-finder/disability
Emotional Support - https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods
People who will be joining us shortly - https://layoffs.fyi

>International Job Boards
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/
Indeed - https://www.indeed.com/
Hiring Cafe - https://hiring.cafe/
YCombinator - https://www.workatastartup.com/companies
Wellfound - https://wellfound.com/jobs

>Anti-Pajeet Job Boards
USAJobs - https://www.usajobs.gov/
Clearancejobs - https://www.clearancejobs.com/
Jobs Now - https://www.jobs.now/
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>>106386939 (OP)
>Me but unironically

>>106386241
>>106386304
>Find dream job that you tick every box for
>Get rejected
>Look a few months later
>It's back up
>mfw ghost job
Surely even investors and stock holders are getting sick of being lied to about the "growth" of these companies.

Is there a trick or do I have to be already rich with my university as a reference ?

>>106386997
the trick is not having terminal autism anon

>>106386970
That never happens, you're spreading debunked malinformation
Pic entirely unrelated

>>106387002
I've seen many with debilitating terminal autism. I thought it was just a biased people opted for. My bad.

I use LinkedIn to schizopost about programming and since no one reads the posts or visit my profile, I'm allowed to do it.

>>106387046
Shouldn't I just call with full confidence and total ignorance? Wouldn't that snowball me into a job ?

Got an offer at Tesla today, goodbye, /utwg/.

>>106387122
If one of them kills me, I'll know who to blame.

>>106387122
see you in /twg/ friend

>>106387122
What position and location?

>Had a recruiter reached out wanting a talk
>Message saying I would love to talk, but at this moment I am getting ready to go an event
>Get a notification while out that she messaged me.
>Come home
>Message is gone
Well fuck you too I guess.

have any of you gone to a career counsellor? did it help?

>>106388400
One at my university flicked me a job with the Australian glowies that closed applications yesterday, seems like a pretty stable job with pretty good career growth.

>graduate
>talk to my father's good engineer friend who also mentors fresh hires and helps out with the hiring process at their multinational company
>we make a cv together
>ffw almost a year
>barely any responses to my cv
>try out those ATS checker sites
>score in the bottom 20% of cvs

my mom would coerce my father to pay for my younger siblings tutoring program because her grades is shit being in 8th grade. shit costs like $450
my mom would also fix our broken couch, shit cost like $200

every year there is this online bootcamp QA engineer bootcamp that costs like $350 that would guarantee me a job after like 3-4 months, but nobody would pay for it.

why is my family like this.

>>106389463
>my family would rather help a child struggling in school than burn twice the amount of money on some leetcoder bootcamp that will do nothing for anyone
apiodic NIGGER

she's not struggling at school at all. she's a carefree mannerless shitheads who has no problems making friends or being active at extracurriculars. my mom keeps shitting on me for not having a decent job despite having a compsci degree but she just won't listen. i'm the only one doing chores at home and run errands while getting disrespected everyday.

>>106389561
>he thinks a bootcamp will work
>he thinks a high school tutor isnt a disciplinary measure/plausibly deniable rape correction

not only that my father opts for me to work as a store clerk for 6 days a week "while i look for better job"

>>106389716
Wouldn't you be able to afford the bootcamp if you just agreed to this arrangement?

>>106389561
>has no problems making friends or being active at extracurriculars
sounds like she's the one with potential
why waste money on a lost cause

>Here we go again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyUrIT0mpo

>>106390291
absolutely ancient
i miss newgrounds flash animations

>do you have any questions"
whats the best way to amnswer this

>>106390350
What's the dress code
WFH policy, if any
Company culture outside of core job duties (are there events, do people hang out out of work, etc)
Is there charity/RRSP/investment matching
Where are your other offices/fab sites/etc and will I have to go to any of them
"Tell me about [retardo niche product]"
Do you issue me a laptop or is "my" computer t chained to my desk
Do I get a permanent desk or is it hot bunking
Are there any special tools or other gear I need to or even just might want to get (hard toe shoes, high-vis vest, my own testing equipment, bringing my own screwdriver set, maybe even a Contigo cup if you don't have spare mugs in the break room)
What's your number
Where are my legs
Why are you locked in the bathroom
How do you stand before the power of a God

Going to a networking even in 1 hour. What do I have to say to get someone to give me job?

>>106390479
Pls saar, I am same caste as you, pls hire me saar.

>>106390479
"Six hundred volt serial cable."

>>106390462
these are for HR an not the nigga taking your technical interview

>>106390556
>technical interview with no HR on the board
if you're at the end of it then no you dont need to ask extra questions. though i like to say "Nothing that can't wait for my first day" to look "confident"(presumptuous)

and also to admit that I'm not interested in wasting time learning about shit I have a significant chance of never touching again

well except maybe the special gear one depending on the nature/location of the job, it'd be a pain in the ass to show up to what you thought was gonna be a comfy IT job in an air conditioned office but then they have to send you home without pay because it turns out you actually work in a cubicle inside an active warehouse and didn't bring your steel-toeds.

Come on guys, why are you so garbage?
Don't you want to prove how good you are so you can make... *squints* $80,000/year in downtown San Francisco with a full-time in-office schedule? Also how DARE you not spend your time doing work for free in order to prove to me that you're worth something!

I'm getting out of tech. This field is fucking stupid, no field demands so much out of you for so little. I could be making more money doing less work in sales or even fucking graphic design.

>>106390742
>so much out of you
you're literally just typing commands
you dont even have to know the commands, you can literally just use AI

>>106390766
I don't even have to type comments for any other industry, and I also don't have to wait until I'm 45 to start making upper-middle-class money ($250k/ya) if I'm good.

>>106390778
>I don't even have to type comments for any other industry,
no, you just have to get wrist-deep in sewage, lift 90lb packages onto pallets, drive for 8+ hours straight, or learn disciplines where if you fuck up minor portions of checklists you literally die in real life and NOT instantly (you burn)

>>106390766
>you're literally just typing commands

Brother, I don't think he's complaining about the job itself. Tech as an industry is objectively horrible.
If the medical industry had the same problems, you would legit see fresh RNs being hired as brain surgeons while everyone is wondering why everyone is dying.

>>106390822
>If the medical industry had the same problems, you would legit see fresh RNs being hired as brain surgeons while everyone is wondering why everyone is dying.
This unironically happens though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss-QLAv9LNI

>>106390812
>the only two fields in life are the trades and coding

>>106390849
well you can also do manual labor, drive trucks, become a pilot, or grow weed, all of which will cause you to instantly die for skipping your checklist

>>106390822
The medical field solves this with harsh testing though. I got through my CS degree with stack overflow. Colleges need to make CS harder if we ever want tech interviews to go away

>>106390876
I see why coders are some of the most uncreative and non-thinking motherfuckers in the world now.

>>106390897
i kid (mostly) but most real jobs require much more effort than coooooding. even if you restrict it to white collar office work, you at least need a lor of knowledge if not actual thinking skills. even IT, which this thread chimps out about being "not tech work", needs a baseline of electrical knowledge and to at least know righty-tighty lefty-loosy.

>>106390924
For me it's a lot easier to know those things and implement them at work while also being able to enjoy what little of the 4HL I can instead of doing coding at home, coding at work, coding at school, then going on LinkedIn (a vision of Hell) to find companies to apply to directly in order to get evaluated by a bunch of pinkhair stasi members-- I mean HR-- and the founder who is confused why I don't show as much enthusiasm about getting paid less than six figures for his "life-changing project (Tinder but for jobs)" which once he gets valued in the millions he will sell off to some Indian and never think about ever again.

>>106390882
>Colleges need to make CS harder if we ever want tech interviews to go away

Hard disagree
I know it's only anecdotal, but the only people I've ever worked with in tech that should have NOT been there, were people WITHOUT a degree.
Certification bodies are what you're most likely angry about. The dipshits that really didn't belong there, just had a mountain of CompTIA certs and couldn't do shit.
You can't tell me that CS degrees are overvalued when I have one and got passed up for a job because I "Didn't have an A+ cert"

This is why tech is shit right now. Nothing makes any fucking sense.

>>106390556
I'd prefer to hear the real answers from the guys in the trenches.

>>106386939 (OP)
So long, suckers.

>>106391400
>rigqfablz
ah yes good old rigqafblz
stellar dude had the pleasure of working with him

>>106391400
seems legit.

>>106391400
>paid daily
I've noticed zoomers and boomers alike have started to complain about the typical two-week pay period. Even in interviews, the roasties get all sheepish when they mention the pay timing. Are people now that bad with their money that they need to be paid every day or their budget will explode?

>>106391400
dfohi.com is well known for poor working conditions

>>106391104
Your questions are really good... which is really bad. I can see that you've been screwed over before and havee worked at shit companies that pretended to be great places to work only to screw you on the backend. The problem with your questions is that it shows you are aware of the exploitation, enshitification, and outright abuse that is heaped upon developers by the corporate fagotry gang. The best strategy that I've found is to ask absolute softball questions, maybe one or two, to pretend convincingly like you actually give a fuck about whatever stupid ass useless company's stupid ass useless product instead of just doing it for the money. And then try to be pleasant until the HR bitch is done with the phone screen and is convinced that you are a compliant, job-whipped pussy that will eat shit and die from shit overdose while being gratefuly for the opportunity to eat shit in exchange for a few dirty dollars more.

Good news everyone, you're all getting another 600,000 coworkers to help culturally enrich your job search!

>>106391104
>>106391581
>trenches
Hope that was trench enough for you OP.

>>106391400
Wow! Talk about good luck!

>>106391637
It's a 5d chess ploy to secure the MAGNETS with them

>>106391637
When will boomers learn that China is better than us and is perfectly capable of getting retaliation in trade deals.

SWE is still the highest income to effort ratio job out there and the ratio has significantly improved because of AI. I bet most devs spend most of their day just prompting and waiting for the model to write code for you while they scroll tiktok. It's insane. No wonder everyone wants to get in on it even if it will all go away in a decade.

>>106391721
JUST SEND THE ARMY TO AIRLIFT OUR FACTORIES BACK TO THE UNITED STATES ITS OUR PROPERTY OUR MANUFACTURING

>>106391702
This guy makes Yeltsin look like Machiavelli.

>>106391637
I like chinks more than jeets.

>>106390882
>>106391048
There has been some GPA inflation as well as a number of lesser programs getting rid of/making easier some fundamental courses making their CS degree more like a trade program. Some schools 25% of their bachelor degrees are going to CS right now. There should be plenty of people with CS degrees that we don't really need H1Bs. Also, wages should also be going down based on the amount of people available. Instead, a bunch of people are not getting hired at all.

>>106391882
>getting rid of/making easier some fundamental courses
you only have yourselves to blame for talking endless shit about CS grads who enter the work force knowing tons of low-level shit but not being experts in the meme stack du jour

now that CS programs just teach the meme stack du jour, you're still not happy. techbro hr roastie-proxies will never be satisfied

>>106391882
People will hate it, but software probably needs something like the CPA or Certified Professional Engineer.

>>106391637
He is unironically playing 5d chess here.

>>106391471
I thought that was really weird, too, but I chalked it up to Pajeet out-of-touch-ness.

>>106392289
I first started seeing it online, but then noticed WHVTE NORMIES complaining about it too. I guess jeets harp on it in their scams because they know the ARYAN BVLLS are demanding it.

>>106392257
We need something that drastically reduces the incentive to pump out shit software. For example, if your company gets hacked over something stupid (e.g. SQLi), there needs to be severe penalties for compromising your customers. You'd think twice about hiring Rajeet if you knew there was a possibility that he'd run your business into the ground.

>>106391760
Yeah but I don't even know things like the difference between ECS and EC2 so I'm dipping out.

Is "learning on the job" even a thing in tech?

>>106392359
It's practically the job description.

>>106392336
Sounds like commie shit to me. Buyer beware!

>>106391901
No one who is employed in tech really wants their company to hire more people.
Their wages would go down.

>>106390462
Please dont listen to this retard.

>>106392336
That's kinda how certified engineers work iirc. They sign off on the work of the engineers under them, that it's done to national or international standards, and it's their ass if a bridge collapsed or something.

>>106392359
no they want you to know everything. unless you're in big tech then they only care about leetcode

>>106392367
I have never been in a tech interview where they had any expectation other than me answering every single question that they had perfectly, usually extremely technical questions too. I don't think they want you to learn on the job.

Where do you fall?

>>106392538
you already know the answer

>>106392359
I don't think "learning on the job" is a thing in any field these days.

>>106392466
Oh then even if I managed to do that they got mad at me for having an employment gap of 2 months.
You must simply be perfect and willing to work for less to get employed in this economy.

>>106392700
I'm approaching a two year gap atm. If I need to get another job, I'm just going to lie and say I've been working at a friend's company the entire time lol

how fucked am I if I never had a job at 28 but have a chemistry degree? Finally got off my ass and finished it now the economy looks like pure shit all the chem lab jobs closed down and now only my programming skills seem useful .

>>106392825
you're going to get nowhere with that line of thinking. you can sit on your ass and nothing will happen or put in some effort and something might

>>106392866
Pretty much. If you're able-bodied and have at least two synapses to rub together, you're far from fucked.

>>106392538
yellow

>>106392538
Green baby lets go

>>106392825
i got my first job at 32

>>106393511
how did you explain your 6 gorillion year gap

>>106393916
said i was doing menial labour and used friends as references

>>106386939 (OP)
>>106393616

>>106392359
it's a requirement, but you aren't supposed to let them know

>>106392825
There are programming job listings, but there aren't any actual programming jobs.
I'm on application number 120 in the last 2 months and I've had 2 initial interviews.

>random people message about jobs I never applied to
it's a scam, right?

imagine being employed

imagine being employed

>>106394173
Wouldn't they want me to be able to do that then?

The thing I find baffling is that they expect you to walk onto site with your experience and get to work straight away when you still need training on what the current systems, policies and just legacy code in general are like, therefore requiring some down time trying to untangle and get used to those things.
I don't get it.

Was digging through very old job listings and found this one that's still open. I'm tempted to apply just to fuck up whatever scam they've got going.

>>106394968
>Under minimum wage
>1-9 years of experience
>2 years of leadership experience
What the fuck? This has to be one of those "See, no one is actually applying so we need Pajeet to come over here" jobs.

>>106395036
Yeah maybe look up the company on jobs.now

>>106388359
it was probably a spammer that got banned

>>106394968
You're obligated to take this job and do the shittiest job you possibly can. Give 'em what $7.25 an hour for a fucking Python developer gets you.

>>106392825
response rates are low even with a degree and multiple years of experience

>>106390742
Graduates with 0 career experience and 0 side project is the norm in every other field.

finely starting to get to me that I am genuinely unemployable.

>Our Recruitment Process 1 - 30 min call with Dorine, Lead Talent Recruitment 2 - Remote technical test (1h) 3 - Interview with Astrid, your future manager 4 - Case study with Jocelyn, Astrid & Florent 5 - Interview with Lucas, our CTO 6 - Reference check. Why join our adventure? A dynamic, highly-motivated team where you'll gain in autonomy and responsibility
lmao

Would taking an IT assistant job ruin any chances of getting into a software development job?

>>106396680
I wouldn't think it hurts your chances, but I don't see how it would help either.

>>106390000
nice quads. okay you're right.

>>106390742
>This field is fucking stupid, no field demands so much out of you for so little. I could be making more money doing less work in sales or even fucking graphic design.

out of a whim i started offering my parent's colleagues to make landing pages for them or just do simple basic powerpoint fixes or changing colors of a car or a t shirt. this shit actually brings money easier than working for a company. no stupid interviews, no stupid leetcodes, and i actually feel calmer everyday because i know i don't have to make either toy / complex project nobody cares about.

>>106396680
any job is better than no job. don't listen to anyone who's burned out of their job or has to deal with meetings or whatever trying to min max their career. seeing figures gets transferred into your bank account whether it's $100 or $1000 or $10000 actually hits like a crack, better than any hours spend gaming, 4chan, or youtube.

Im about to graduate with an AAS in software development is that any good or am i fucked?

>>106397532
did any internships? are you sociable?

>>106391637
Jesus Christ his taste in decor is absolutely horrid.

>>106397591
I got like 1 year left, and as far as internships go, I have been reaching out, but no bites. And sociable? Not really. It’s the reason I started down this path. I was tired of working dead end warehouse jobs after I got out of the Army.

>>106396680
Yes. IT is NOT Tech.

How do we feel about "consulting" jobs, /utwg/?
Recently saw one I'm overqualified for.

>>106398191
can you actually land it? this is the first question you should ask yourself.

Up-skilling a little bit given the AI craze so learning to make ai agents and fine tuning models. I'm actually so utterly surprised how much these companies are shelling out for these tokens and 3rd party wrappers. I feel like missing out so hard.

>>106398788
I le upskilled in AI recently too (i guess) but in red teaming these mfers. my research has led me to conclude that only a profoundly retarded faggot would ever hook up an LLM to anything important. if u have this thing autonomously make decisions that could adversely impact your business, u deserve what's coming to you. these things will always be jailbroken, and they'll always be susceptible to prompt injection.

>>106391471
No it's because inflation has gotten so bad that your paycheck today is worth significantly less in than it will be two weeks from now. Delaying your paycheck is basically a way for companies to pay you less. People want to get paid right away so they can get out of cash immediately and into a hedge against inflation to retain more of their value

>>106399067
That's right. I need my money by the end of the workday so I can strategically buy Bitcoin. I'm also crippled by alcoholism but that's irrelevant. The point is if I don't have cash in my hand by the end of today I'm going to fucking lose it.

>>106399083
I kicked down my boss's door this morning, tumbling onto the floor and landing face first onto a dusty carpet. I was drunk and I wasn't wearing a shirt. I had screamed something incoherent about needing money to fend off the infinite and agonizing torment of demons who've evaded mortal comprehension for millenniums. I had flayed my arms violently into the air, spinning them as if I was about to takeoff at any moment. My boss finally reached into his pockets, and threw whatever change he had at me. I stood up, gave a deep bow to show my limitless gratitude, and rushed out the door to the nearest liquor store. It was then I realized I haven't had a job since 2007. Who was that guy?

>>106391637
He looks so old

>>106399316
True. That's a 79 year old man.

>use the available tools you have to efficiently solve a problem
>hey that's not far. you're cheating!

>>106387122
All the best...

>>106399427
I actually support this. Eating from the Google cafeteria sounds comfy af.

>>106399431
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how much storage do you have on your current PC? 2TB? 4TB?

>>106399689
I'm on 1TB, oh my fucking god man. this is fuck all storage these days.

why do i feel that QA is more bullshit than webdev or is it tjust me

>tfw snuck in a Terry Davis reference in my code today for a technical interview out of sheer habit (Do so when I make my own projects, don't worry, none of the really famous ones)
>tfw HR roastie didn't seem bothered (Or even catch it) while the technical manger gave a smile and a quick nod before moving on
I also made sure my code wasn't niggerlicious but fuck that was scary when I realized.

does indian nepotism exist even at FAGMAN?

>>106400248
Look at the current CEOs of most of FAGMAN and you tell me.

how it feels to beg niggas in they DMs to give me a job and get ghosted

SWE jobs where I get paid daily and in advance? If I don't have any cash on hand by 10 AM I won't be able to buy what I need to stave off inflation and my (((employer))) is fucking STEALING from me looks like daddy's going to have to get to work a different kind of work where daddy gets his bars replaced or else

they also need to provide me a laptop i REFUSE to use my personal machine for presonal reasons the laptop has to have at least 8tb storage and wifi i need it for very important personal reasons.

>>106400665
You sound like a little bitch, ngmi

>>106400677
i need to get paid daily and in advance it's important anon stop stealing from me

I always had an idea in the back of my mind to transmit data through audio cables.

Like get two m/m audio extension cables, plug one end of one cable into the speaker port for one PC and the mic port for the other, then do the opposite with the other cable, then you can output sound directly from one PC to into another, and with some modulation you can send data.

There's a potential $1b business in this. Who's building this with me?

>>106400472
why are you talking black

>>106400736
Most of these concepts already exist. The application and the method of transmission through the audio spectrum has to be figured out. Encryption or bust honestly. They are already using fiber optic drones why not make it audio through infrasound or some directional sound method. So long as its secure transmission you can effectively have control over data transmission. All of this is theory for how it will work but it has to be tested.

>>106400736
Imagine if instead of talking to a retarded jeet on the phone, you could pick from a menu of what you need. If you push a button on your phone, it just makes a noise and the computer at the other end understands that noise and selects the item from the menu you want.

asking here as well
help me out neets, a wagie brother needs a hand
>>106400800

>>106399427
that's most probably happening because of fake job applicants

>>106394801
>wouldn't they want me to tell them that I really don't know everything about some technical stuff that I could learn at work
retard

>>106394968
>Posted 30 months ago
>Apply by December 31, 2026
retard

>employed tech worker after being a neet
>reasonable job and hours
>not motivated at all and still hate it because waging is completely life sapping
>cant quit because the market is completely fucked and my best bet would be delivery driving
>cant cope because houses are insanely expensive and most everything else is stupid garbage that doesnt make up for the misery of the 9-5

I dont know how the normies do it. Especially the poorer ones who cant even afford the basic luxuries and work long hours.
There has to be some wageslave gene that im missing. I dont know how anyone can put up with this for 20-40 years. its insanity

>>106401722
most jobs actually accomplish something

>>106401722
weak ass cracka

>>106386939 (OP)
You can't get a job if you're a white man.

>>106401722
Houses are insanely expensive because of illegal immigrants. Same reason roads are dangerous.

>>106401865
>I HAVE IT WORSE THAN NIGGERS
finna lynch this cracker

>>106401865
Actually he missed the discrimination, it's not about skin color, it's about gender. The DEI hire are women, not men that's it.

>>106401865
I can't get a tech job as a black man, lmao. I got a hyper specific degree in undergrad that most have to get a masters for, believing that I'd get in the field, but I've had little luck over the past year and a half.

>>106401722
>Especially the poorer ones who cant even afford the basic luxuries and work long hours.
At least you acknowledged this

I am less employable than a newgrad

Should I put an incomplete repository on my GitHub? Maybe employers will look at it and say "hah that's unfinished trash, rejected"

>>106401865
>pic
that pic only says that you believe everything you read on the internet. as does any retard that believes that story

>>106401865
>ITS REAL CUZ THERES A LAWSUIT
reminder that Francis E Dec petitioned the supreme court. being litigious in the USA is not hard

Why are there so many fucking certifications when the only ones that matter are ones the HR harpy has heard of?
I CAN'T EVEN GET THE MICROSOFT CERTS THEY WANT ANYMORE
WHY DO THEY KEEP PUTTING THEM ON THE ADS

>>106402993
If you had any courage and gumption, you'd have gotten the cert while it was still available. Sorry you missed the boat because you were being lazy and eating avocado toast.

Looking around Handshake it seems like almost all the entry level work is for web dev. Does it seem this way to anyone else?

>>106402646
Why not? They won't check anyway

>>106403278
Do you mean as in they'll just glance through the code or as in they won't even bother to look?

unironically thinking of building a startup making "portable computers" specifically for IT jannies
>just buy a bunch of chinkpads
>design and 3d print a new sub-chassis to fit extra ports/cards (if even necessary), maybe some edgy "ruggedization" corner bits or rudimentary waterproofing
>add extra network card, gpio breakout board, extra audio card, an integrated SDR, all the various toys that come up once a decade at work but larpers love
>sell it preloaded with W10 LTSC and a few common utilities (wireshark with the BT/USB driver extensions, virtual audio cable, the actual latest PS version instead of the janky versions of 3 corpos use, etc)
>package it with some common display/audio/usb adapters and other junk you always need and can never remember where you put

>maybe have a Version B that's just an ITX computer in a pelican case with the ports exposed and rubber grommets on them for the tacticool larpers

what are the myriad ways this could fail

>>106403331
They won't even bother to look.

>>106403513
No IT janny is using any of that. Unless they go further into Cybersec, the most advanced thing they'll ever use is SSH.

give me some ideas for ios apps

>>106403604
at my job doing the lowest tier IT dustman shit but happening to do so in the navy I've had a use case for every single one of those things at least once. and I figure no corp would actually buy one since they have standing contracts with dell and netally, it would be all larpers buying these

>SSH
adding PuTTY to the list of preloaded software then
i keep forgetting it exists since the only time i've ever had to use it was to interact with really ancient switches before touching network stuff got moved to a different agency entirely

>>106390742
When did compsci graduates start calling themselves "engineers"? They didn't go to engineering school, no coursework in ethics, don't know anything about physics. I looked it up in the dictionary and being a faggot who knows how to code in python doesn't make you an engineer. Go vibe code me a bridge.

>>106403513
I'm not buying a computer from a planefucking furfaggot

>>106404019
Majority of comp sci majors funnel into software engineering jobs. Since their job title has engineer in it they call themselves engineer. More and more software related jobs just started adding engineering to the title if you did any little bit of design/architecture work (Data engineer, Cloud Engineer, Network Engineer...)

Tldr: Blame the overlap with computer engineering.

>>106404019
job titles seem to rotate basically randomly. "analyst" didn't exist 5 years ago yet now every IT dustman is an "analyst" and "technician"/"technologist" have both died despite those being the rage before that.

I blame do-nothing techbros who need ever cooler business cards making up nonsense job titles to "prove" they're not like the other devs but a lack of creativity meaning every time someone does it it becomes a meme near-instantly

>>106404019
>no coursework in ethics

>>106404019
>>106404449
>ethics
whatever makes number go up is the right thing to do. welcome to america

>>106402987
Dec was right about literally everything but you're a parroting puppet gangster slave, aye vey.

>>106405696
modern techbros really read francis e dec's rants and went "damn these seem like good ideas."

what up fellow unemployed technologists? I drank half a bottle of henney yeesterday. Still haven't found no job, for real.

Do you guys ever usee safe mode on your computer to be more secure like elliot anderson?

>>106405705
I'm still waiting for them to finish the Torment Nexus

How much silence do you receive before you think "Yeah, they're not getting back to me"? I would've said that a week after applications close, but my application analysis program says that the average response time (If there is a response) is 3 weeks from close of application.

>>106405751
drinking the rest of a colt 45 and listening to death grips, might play some dorf fort later

>>106405776
i assume they're not getting back to me as i click "submit" on indeed

>>106405776
Honestly after a week for anything not F100.

>>106405789
kek. same

>>106405789
Just get a job in mumbai, they're certainly not looking there

>>106406002
with indians moving to the west en masse what if we moved to india en masse and formed our own country in a violent takeover

my laptop keep crashing... I cannot look at all my cat memes at all. I don't know what to do. Should I pickup a mac mini to replace it or a mini pc?

>>106404019
>They didn't go to engineering school
my diploma literally says engineer

>>106402993
all certs and requirements on a job listing are just paperwork so they can hire internally or h1b.

Rising senior

Tfw you've been seeing a whole bunch of newly opened internship listings but I can't even apply to any of them since they all need you to graduate later than May 2026

Anyone here got hired? If so, what did you do to get there? Did you "keep up with recruiters?" Did you have side projects, or Leetcode, or whatever?

>>106406615
Someone above got hired at Tesla

I just bought the course and test for Nvidia's NCA-AIIO cert.
This seems easy and I'll be done in a month. Are there any better AI certs to put on my CV?
I'm already working on a couple of n8n workflows to transition to the obvious future that is AI.

>tfw underqualified for entry level IT jobs
>tfw overqualified for other types of works (Literal words)
How is a man supposed to live?

>>106406662
>tfw underqualified for entry level IT jobs
Unironically, this is less of a problem than being overqualified.
Recruiters these days literally just want a candidate with 1 or 2 CompTIA-slop certs and nothing else.

>>106406653
Certs aren't that useful, it's more about tools proficiency (pytorch, langchain...)

>>106406685
What the fuck is going on with job requirements currently? I can't make heads or tails on what type of candidate most companies want. Government jobs have a lot of problems, but a lot of their job postings have coherent requirements (That mostly boil down to: "Do you have experience with xyz library/framework?")

I really need a fast way to get 1K USD in like two weeks. Life or death matter in the shithole I live... I know Java, Spring Boot, JS/TS, React, Angular... I can learn too. 5y of experience. Any ideas?

>>106406838
Selling drugs aside, good luck with that

>>106406760
they want a top performer who is an exact fit with many years in their stack, an internal hire or h1b, or the job doesnt exist and is posted anyway

>>106391471
This is why payday loan stores are so popular. Because the majority of people are barely functioning retards.
Knew a guy who used to do tax returns. His service would offer returns 2 weeks early for people and he hated offering it but he had to as part of the job.
They'd give you your return 2 weeks early for 15% so like $7400 now instead of $8000 in 2 weeks. And most people, including retards below the poverty line, would take it.

>>106406760
>I can't make heads or tails on what type of candidate most companies want.

Brother, I don't know either. I have been told I'm overqualified for entry level and underqualified for mid-level.
A recruiter told me that the overqualified meme is due to hiring talented people and them leaving when they find out the pay isn't good. In reality, the same thing happened to me with this same recruiter and I can say that it's not because of the pay. It's because they hire really experienced techs for a help desk job, but when they actually start working they find out that it's practically Cisco network engineer shit.
The market is a mess because people be doing shady shit. Simple as.

>>106406747
How else would I broadcast that I have those proficiencies?

>>106407288
Side projects on github/huggingface, kaggle competitions and bragging about it on linkedin

>>106407270
>A recruiter told me that the overqualified meme is due to hiring talented people and them leaving when they find out the pay isn't good.
It would be better if they advertised the base pay, that people applying know what they are getting into and from there people who think the pay is too low are already not applying.

>>106407303
Very true, it's all just shady stuff. Looking back, I do remember being a little curious as to why she would admit that. Maybe they don't even see it as wrong.

>>106407303
Reminder: "Competitive salary" means as low as they can go to sucker in desperate workers.

You can't even imagine how dire it will get. You'll be competing with the whole world for jobs that are drying up as we speak. Your boss will become your god, and you'll do everything to please him to survive on the scraps he'll give you reluctantly. You'll wish to be a peasant in the Middle Ages. Mark my fucking words, the world is collapsing and people are still living in denial.

I feel like wages should be going down at the entry level with all the subpar CS grads and some bootcamp people left. There should be a decent amount of very low expectation 35-60k entry level junior jobs people could use to get some experience. There are a ton of not very good CS grads who would probably become okay with 2-3 years of practice.

>>106407416
Are they eventually hoping that their other rich friends are going to buy what they are selling? It seems counter-intuitive to me to drive down the average spending power of the consumer/worker while also expecting to make line go up.

>>106407436
No, they think there are too many people on earth and want to drastically reduce the world population. These selfish bastards like musk and others just want enough slaves to keep their current living conditions and there are enough jeets to compete for this position. Everything else can be automated away.

>>106407896
jej

>>106407896
How does it end?

>>106407436
This is one of the biggest problems with faceless corporations owned by nobody. No one is actually responsible for the actions of the company and anyone can be replaced if they don't make the line go up fast enough. It causes companies to completely disregard their best interest.

>>106408401
he decides to learn a trade

How long has the CS job market been this shit? I've been hearing stories of 100+ job applications with no interviews for a while but I can't remember exactly how long it's been.
Maybe a year?

>Get an email for a $125k glowie job saying that is now in their deliberation panel, will take a few weeks before interviews
>Got a call today for a bank for internal IT helpdesk for $80k interview tomorrow
Thursday's the day it seems.

>>106408658
It's been bad since 2023.

>>106391471
Getting paid weekly is a thing in many countries. The whole "ill pay you every month thing" at startups is horrible because startups hustle hard to make money and getting scammed out of an entire month worth of pays sucks. Not to mention when you first start a job it means waiting a full month before you see any money which makes your time unnecessarily stressful. Being broke despite being employed is a bitter irony.

>>106407436
the endgame is turning everything into a financial instrument for rich people to buy and sell. the idea of making consumer goods is gone. it's all b2b and "valuation" pumping.

why do you think NFTs got so popular? part of the marketing for those was literally that you have "full ownership" of some piece of normally worthless data, so you can sell it to some other retard down the line or insist it "boost your portfolio" despite not being something that does anything. to these people everything has to be monetized and be individual vessels of absurd value, with that value not being based on its usefulness or function. these people need to be killed if we are to have any hope for a future

>>106408658
Late 2022

>>106408871
Man, money is lame and gay now. Before, value would at least be somewhat reflective of some sort of utility, but now things can have value because... they are made to have value.

>>106408883
reminder that Cisco had a quarter recently (late 2024 iirc) where its "valuation" was literally lower than its profits. not revenue; pure profit. you could, in theory, buy cisco for less cash than it had on hand after paying its bills

In my second week of my new job as an equipment specialist at a data center

>>106408905
How did you get hired?

WAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Did you guys brood up an answer, ruminate a dilemma, ponder a snack?

>>106408904
How does valuation work, bunch of "trusted" and "professional" people just say xyz is worth abc money?

I've applied to 27 jobs this week and I'm only feeling more and more hopeless.

I think I'm depressed.

>>106390742
Filtered. We need more people like you to leave

>>106409075
yeah basically. it's mostly stonk price x number of shares in existence but stonk price is easily manipulated and modern markets are irrational and mostly hype-driven.

lockheed lost like 80% of its share price recently because a few companies TALKED about not getting more F35s. they didnt cancel contracts. literally just said "we don't think we're gonna buy more than the 200 we already ordered because of all this tariff business" and the stock tanked even though it was already very unlikely that Canada and GB were thinking of having a combined air force larger and more advanced than the US's

and because investors are stupid and do no research anymore, the bajillion subcontractors that make the gear for those planes had their stock price be totally unaffected

>>106409157
did u watch the documentary on netflix about valuation of all the dead 9/11 people and how insurance paid for their deaths?

reminder that palantir has a valuation of over 300 billion dollars and the only product they have made to date is some kind of wrapper for IBM Watson to deploy on AWS or Azure. their only product so far is basically one(1) docker container that was only sold successfully to the UK NHS and they are worth over 300 billion us dollars

>>106409175
NTA, don't have goyflix, but what's this all about?

>>106409196
an accountant has to figure out how much death insurance to give 9/11 family members after the air planes killed them.

>>106409207
What was the rough average figure for each person?

>>106409207
sounds like a really boring documentary, one would assume that their life insurance plan would have figures already laid out for how much the family gets when they die under certain circumstances

>>106409214
it did not say.
>>106409221
I don't think america had a 'died from terrorist attack' in the insurance field yet.

>>106409237
doubtful considering 9/11 was far from the first terror attack in the US that decade, and not even the first time the WTC had been bombed at all

even if the claimant didnt have Terrorism Insurance then surely there would be something still applicable like "building collapse" or "aeronautical incident"

>>106409207
ah yes, the true victims of 9/11. the insurance adjusters

>>106409194
Yes, perfectly normal

it seems like the meta of starting a company, hyping its valuation up, and getting acquired by a larger company has died. what happens when the VC "angel investing" dries up once they realize these overvalued companies will never ever turn a profit?

>>106409322
> North Tower – Kemper Insurance Companies (Floors 35-36); Hal Roth Agency Inc. (77); Daynard & Van Thunen Co. (79); RLI Insurance Company (80); Metropolitan Life Insurance Co, (89); Marsh USA Inc. (93-100).

> South Tower – SCOR U.S. Corp. (23-24); Allstate Insurance Co. (24); Hartford Steam Boiler (30); Frenkel & Company Inc. (35, 36); Guy Carpenter (47-54); Fireman’s Funds Insurance Co. (47-48); Seabury & Smith (49); AON Corporation (92, 99, 100); Continental Insurance Co.

Lot of insurance companies died that day.

>>106409377
Cisco is, at this time, worth 229 billion

a company that quite literally provides literally half of all existing equipment for global telecommunications has 2/3 the value of a company that has made literally nothing but a shitware wrapper for plonking on AWS

>>106409497
good. its an industry literally gambling on people not dying

>>106409502
>Cisco is, at this time, worth 229 billion
u have to understand that AI is some of humanities most important invention compared to telephony switches. No one cares about router compared to AI sex robots.

>>106408756
>>106408882
Was it exactly this bad for that long or has it been getting worse recently?

>>106409068
Lost money can be get back but lost time don't.

>>106409157
And this is why I refuse to try investing in this shit.
The one time I tried, I predicted AMD futures after GME went nuts the first time. Robinhood froze my futures trade and I lost out on $50k.

But then I saw shit like Cracker barrel. I correctly predicted it'd tank when I first saw the news, but didn't buy. And then a few days later I saw it rebound and realized I'm too stupid for this shit.

>>106386939 (OP)
I am unemployed React developer
Do you recommend to learn Angular to improve my chanses? I need a job.

What's the latest meme language/framework so I can avoid it if I want a stable career?

I found a very niche yet always in demand tech field that you can self teach, learn the software from Youtube in a day, make way more money if you know even basic scripting in a very very easy scripting language, let's you travel, involves some basic easy physical labor, can be certed in online for free, has tons of benefits, and makes bank. I start next week despite it being a different language than what I use in web dev, yet it's way easier.

No I will not be sharing my secrets.

>>106410320
write down Angular on your CV
copy paste an Angular project from youtube
start applying with that new addition, at least 15 jobs
now wait for results after 2 weeks

i dont mean to sound cynical but getting a job is more about meeting someone in person and "beg" for it. better yet if you can live off tech illiterate people who just want a landing page or a blog online.

TIER 1
job / source of income that your parents/relatives/parent colleagues directed to you no matter if it's outside your expertise / studies

TIER 2
job / source of income that you find yourself through being sociable and doing stuff you love that generally you would rather do each day than jerking off or doomscrolling

TIER 3
job / source of income that needs to be spammed with CV's first, pass through rounds of interviews, studying shit you don't like, making projects that sucks the joy out of you, paying meme bootcamps, and still getting unemployed anyways after 6 years

>>106410400
>Catalog
thanks bro, will follow this

At least I will be able to use Silksong to distract myself starting next week.

>>106410464
Please send cash and property urgent

>>106411447
BEFORE I AM EXTERMINATED BY THIS GANGSTER, COMPUTER GOD CONCOCTED AND CONTROLLED WORSE MONGREL ORGANIZED CRIME MURDER INCORPORATED GANGSTER COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT,

DONATE MONEY OR EVEN A MANUAL TYPEWRITER TO ME, FOR YOUR ONLY HOPE FOR A FUTURE

what stuff are you guys doing today? I am gonig to get some soda pop at the store I think.

>>106409726
I think it was worst in 2023. Then, no one was being hired. Now, at least it's only juniors who are fucked, seniors are back to getting some traction. But yeah, if you're a junior or newgrad it's probably worse than ever right now.

>>106386939 (OP)
Why do I recognize this image?

>>106412170
glowie jeets are gangstaking you by posting the same images over and over, you can only defeat them by consuming more bars and posting in /vg/

>>106411944
playing stormwanks and getting frustrated at the absolutely niggerlicious way everything is coded in that game

>>106410400
>i dont mean to sound cynical but getting a job is more about meeting someone in person and "beg" for it.

desu you don't even need to beg for it. The couple of times I did meet tech recruiters and employers at some social event like a wedding they were almost ready to offer me a position on the spot. I never took them because I was already employed.
I feel like this is only because they tie a presentable face to a resume. This makes sense once you witness the level of tardness average "Tech" worker is capable of. They don't want the guy who tard rages outside a hackathon's award ceremony because he lost.

>trying to learn some basic script cooooding in other popular languages
>all the documentation for everything is just "The library exists. :) Use it if you like :)"

I finally realize why code monkeys hate powershell so much. It has documentation instead of such lavishly descriptive manuals as picrel

>>106408658
early 2023
I graduated in december 2022 and I remember getting two in person interviews within two months and absolutely nothing afterwards and then seeing the job posting graph posted here showing I graduated RIGHT as everything went to shit

if only I graduated a semester early

>>106412680
>I graduated RIGHT as everything went to shit

Has anyone else gone crazy when attempting to convey to family and friends that you basically went through college for CS while everyone around you is telling you you're gonna get a six fig job and "This industry isn't going anywhere" only to graduate during the one-two punch of COVID and AI?
Some are calling me "Lazy" behind my back.

>>106412862
skill issue LOL Elon Musk is the richest man in the united states because of computer, what's your excuse??

I got let go on my first day of my PhD studies for being gay :-(.

>>106412862
>"whaat anon you don't have a job yet?? have you tried that one site called linkedin, what about indeed?"

>>106409157
>lockheed lost like 80% of its share price recently because a few companies TALKED about not getting more F35s. they didnt cancel contracts. literally just said "we don't think we're gonna buy more than the 200 we already ordered because of all this tariff business" and the stock tanked even though it was already very unlikely that Canada and GB were thinking of having a combined air force larger and more advanced than the US's]

That just means that the stock was being overvalued due to assumed future value and is now correcting because of confirmation that said hypothesized value isn't coming any time soon.

>>106412870
He's rich because his parents had an emerald mine.

>>106412972
>"Here's a good job posting I found on Indeed. Have you applied yet?"

>>106390742
>is hiring
>doesn't actually hire anyone
sounds about right from what I've seen

>>106404019
>have problem
>create solution

>have an HM interview coming up
>HM is indian

>>106413525
I usually delete emails from indian recruiters so that my time isn't wasted. It's not going to go anywhere with them in the first place.

>>106413568
Lot of good companies have indian higher-ups at this point though

Today i was layed off. I fucking hate this timeline

>>106413122
>"how's the job search coming?"

Can't you fags just move to Germany or some other country ?

Question for everyone, I have a bunch of jeet connections in my LinkedIn, legit hibs I worked with, but I feel like maybe I should start quietly axing those and just leave the US citizen connections? Is there a consensus on this?

I'm convinced that the current hiring process is our field's version of residency or whatever finance and BigLaw do to haze the balls off their juniors. It follows from a greater degree of discomfort with the idea that "you didn't go to the same 10 schools we recruit from? Go fuck yourself, you will never be shit, go make $60k in a strip mall" than law or finance have.

>>106413794
It depends on them, really. If they are Indian born jeets that socialize with jeets only in a closed jeet-circle jerk then yeah axe them. However if they came to America to be Americans and not jeets then keep them. Evaluate each one as an individual and decide for each but I wouldn't just blanket axe all of them. About 1 in 10 indians are actually cool peeps.

>>106412862
Let's say you could convince and convey your family and friends of whatever: what will that do for you? How do you benefit? (Protip: doesn't fucking matter or do anything).
Stop wasting time and energy explaining to people who just won't understand; if they could understand then they would understand.

>>106410328
Python and anything to do with AI

>>106386939 (OP)
A list of open-source software projects that will pay for contributions
https://github.com/kunovsky/paid-open-source-projects

>>106413947
>what will that do for you? How do you benefit?
>(Protip: doesn't fucking matter or do anything)

Listen man, do you want to sound like a midwit? Cause that's how midwits think.
Of course I don't think there's benefit in it. All it does is add context to my current situation. If I weren't to include or try to make them understand, then I WOULD look unemployed and lazy.
The frustration I have isn't because of people not believing me, it's because the gravity of such a situation doesn't hit home for them. I don't blame them, because it doesn't compute with how they think the world works. While they only rage against the confusion for a couple of minutes max, I have to live with the confusion everyday.

Why else would you explain the phenomenon of a holder of a STEM degree and 7 years of experience not even being able to find work if it's not just for exposing the lunacy of it?

How do people with mortgages and kids handle getting laid off?

>>106413947
>If they could understand they would
This is my philosophy, but like, in general
Makes for a remarkably more peaceful existence

>>106386939 (OP)
I customized Ani to be, quote: "A highly skilled IT-Systems Engineer" and she started talking with an Indian accent in a male voice. Can't make this shit up.

>>106415111
Put the wife to work and dadmax?

I want India to attempt nuclear power and then Chernobyl their entire subcontinent. just cover the entire thing in a concrete dome and be done with it

>>106415600
this but include california somehow