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This general dead fr fr on sheeesh

Best headphones in the world, coming through

Also, buy Stax

Something something MDR-MA900s

I can't make the fiio ft1 earcups not feel awful, I even bought sheepskin earcups everyone recommends but I still get this feeling that theyre pressing on my ear. After like 30 minutes it just feels awful I don't get a hotspot from the headband either its just the earcups

>>106426473
that's obvious, but try bending the metal to reduce the clamping force?
I remember having the same issue with LCD-2-style headbands due to geometry shenanigans, which led me to conclude that the part holding a headphone's yoke being at an angle is superior design

I need a new mic headset soon, I'm currently using an old Hyperx Cloud II. My budget is roughly $100, does anyone have any good recommendations? Or should I just say fuck it and buy another Cloud II? I'm a simple gamer so I don't need anything too crazy, just something reliable with good quality that's built to last.

>>106426741
Do they even still make Cloud IIs? Last I knew HP fucked those up by removing all the acoustic tuning material from inside the cups, the brushed texture on the sliders, the metal plates on the cups and the rubberized coating to make them cheaper to manufacture without actually dropping the price

>>106424617 (OP)
>be me
>looking for something dark sounding like k371 but without the abysmal build quality
>hd 569 seems to have a similar sound signature while being comfier and cheaper
>some people say they are underrated while others say they're dogshit but usually because "muuh too little treble" (which would be a selling point for me)
so what's the catch apart from oem earpads being impossible to find in stock? they seem to work fine with the hd 620s pads anyways

Came for the headphones, stayed for the cats.

>>106427083
why nyot both

received the 400se and my qudelix, not super crisp but pretty kino sound, shame about the deep bass drop

>>106424617 (OP)
>Be me
>Go to local hifi store to check out headphones
>Find pic rel
It's a open+closed back design. If it wasn't two-fucking-thousand-two-bitching-hundred euros I would've bought it on the spot.

I know for a fact you read these threads FiiO, PLEASE, give us something that looks like the FT5, sounds like the FT7 (biggest ass planars you can reasonably fit), has that open+closed feature from the Palma DHS-1, for a price between the FT5 and FT7 (we don't need a gay ass LN2 cooled monocristaline copper cable, exotic woods or carbon fiber).

>>106427620
>It's a open+closed back design
What does that mean, that you can rotate some mechanism that closes the vents?

I'm thinking of getting those or the 850nb. I have some Sony wh510 so I was thinking of getting an upgrade.

>>106426419
>designed for OTL
>sennfags are afraid of OTL
tragic

>>106427620
I wonder how much tuning actually went into that, because normally just closing off the back on a set of open-back cans has significant impact on the sound. My first instinct says they probably sound like complete ass in one of the two configurations, or there's so much tuning stuff going on behind that grille that they're barely even "open" anyway and the grille acts as a glorified bass port.

For me? It’s Ribbons

Just ordered some DT770s for not remotely serious music prod. How fucked am I?

>>106427676
Yes, exactly.
>>106427941
I couldn't test them because I didn't have a USB-tp-Aux converter on hand (neither did the store lmao). But I assume for 2200€ (fuck me) they have immaculate tuning and engineering behind them. The only thing that made me cringe is that they're dynamic drivers.

>>106428343
https://www.headfonia.com/palma-audio-dhs-1-review/
According to this they're still not very open in "open" mode, so it's the "glorified bass port" scenario.
I also found a squiggly in a head-fi thread. I've seen worse, but for more than two grand this is pretty underwhelming tuning.

>>106428343
>>106428623
Oh, and it's basically a glorified DIY project. Here are the drivers it uses:
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/peerless-by-tymphany/HPD-50N25PR00-32/6211129

>>106428343
Best drivers are dynamics, chuddy

Arya Stealth or 660s2 for movies? and gaming too, but mainly stuff like Expedition 33

>>106428915
Neither. HD600 and 6XX have better tuning than 660s2 and are cheaper. Arya are sibilance cannons and chinkfiman's QC is shit. If you want to get anything from them then get Sundara or HE400SE. But if you really want a planar something from DCA or Audeze would serve you better than chinkfiman. If it's just those two companies then get Sundara, HE400SE or HD6XX/HD600.
>>106428856
Planars and estats have them beat in THD and planars in particular are also easier to tune.
>>106427542
Apply a low shelf filter at 100 hz or so. A few dB would be fine though these are low distortion in the bass so even a 10 dB bass shelf would be fine.

>>106428955
>muh 0.0008 db of dihsturshunzzz reee!!!

Why do planars feel "thin" to me? I used to think it was just Monolith/Monoprice being retarded (I have the 1060C) but then I demo'd various Audeze models in a store and felt pretty much the same.

>>106429311
Do you wear glasses? For closed back planars (and any and all estats as well) a broken seal will absolutely kill the bass response.

Just ordered a set of AT MHX50 to use on the PC and plugging into the guitar amp, how bad did I fuck up? Only after ordering do I see videos and posts everywhere saying they're outdated now and for the same price you can get better options like the Beyerdynamic DT770

>>106429347
No, but sennies don't really fit my head either, so I think you're onto something.

>>106429351
ATH M50X have a better frequency response without treble rape and don't have the retarded design choices Beyer cans have. You're fine.
>>106429362
Audeze cans have this unique suction cup like sensation when you take them off. Kind of like when you're on an airplane since they seal very well and as a result have flat bass down to even 10 hz. If you didn't feel anything like that then the seal was probably imperfect. Hifiman cans all feel "thin" but Audeze are anything but imo.

>>106429347
>>106429362
Headphones sound different depending on how you wear them. See: angled drivers/pads, big earcups, boxy headphones, etc. Putting on an SR-007 is something you git gud at.

>>106426419
They should bring back the marble countertop look. It made it so distinct.

>>106429405
That's good to know, I hear they lack bass but that's not a huge issue for me.

Does Zach suck everyone's dick for a good review? ZMF gets such glowing praise on every platform, it's ridiculous.

Does anyone have any thoughts or read any reviews on the new Hifiman headphones?

On the left is the HE600, the successor to the beloved HE6. Should be around ~600 bucks.

On the right is the Edition XV, the successor to the well liked Edition XS. Should be around ~300 bucks.

>>106430556
HE600 probably won't have sticky drivers unlike HE6se, and it does have some cup swivel despite the apparent similarities with the Sundara's headband
on the other hand, I just don't believe that the esteemed dr. fang bian ph.d can pull off a straight HE6 replacement - it'll probably be yet another alright planar in that crowded price bracket
I appreciate that the cups are round, I'll be able to roll my 999 different ~100mm earpads if I ever get it

Any good headphones yet?

have the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 ohm. is there any usb audio interfaces that can actually drive them? currently using a scarlett 2i2 gen 3 and even with it maxed its just not loud enough.

>>106430658
I've never tried the HE6(SE), but what makes it so special to a lot of people? Isn't it very poorly build?

>>106427046
...anyone?

just got some hd600s and first of all they are not the cool blue color, secondly they feel more flimsy on the plastic and the cord also feels flimsy.

>>106431526
yeah, I also bought the newer HD600 in 2022 with low expectations, just to have lighter side headphones, and the build was a lot less impressive than I remembered
not sure if corners were cut after the company was acquired or if my standards just got way higher

>>106431526
>>106431584
Sennheiser has moved a significant portion of their manufacturing to China.

>>106431676
hd600s say made in ireland

>>106428623
>>106428679
Bummer. 2 grand for that dynamic POS is really the absolute state of the industry, isn't it?
>>106428856
Nuh-uh

>>106429405
You're overthinking it. Sennheiser is designed for manlets and he isn't a manlet. Manlet spergs who desire cold, lobotomized sound are the target demographic. The high impedence is just the cherry on the humiliation ritual.

>>106431977
Taking existing OEM drivers and putting them into an expensive custom shell is pretty common and always has been.
If anything, the barrier of entry to making custom drivers these days is lower than ever, see all those homebrew planars. Verum for example is literally a slav in his garage.

I got memed into buying the FT1. Don't do it. It fucking sucks. Everything sounds so fucking muddy. I don't get the shills. I just did a few tests between my FT1 and my dt770 pro and my dt 770 pro won by far. Also massive microphonics on the cable on the FT1. Is the dt770 pro flawless? No it has a massive fucking clamp that fucks your ears up but the sound. Its so much fucking better than the FT1

>>106434495
>goes from treble-cannons to normal sounding headphones
>reeee it's muddy!!!
retard
>Is the dt770 pro flawless? No it has a massive fucking clamp
...the headband is 100% metal, literally just bend it so it clamps less??? of course a retard like you couldn't figure that one out, and that's the reason you decided to buy an ft1? kekw

>>106434560
I already bent it and it basically destroyed it.

>>106432220
the


best

>>106434580
>I already bent it and it basically destroyed it
??? what the fuck do you mean by this
you bent it too much? ...then bend it back tighter?

>>106434689
I bent it over several nights until it was comfortable. Up to a point where i basically made it a open back and it occasionally makes loud creaking noises

>>106434709
ok, so again, what's stopping you from tightening it up a bit so it's in the middle between too uncomfortable and too loose?

>>106434766
because i bent it too much

>>106434790
can't tell if you're ragebaiting or seriousy retarded
...no, you can't bend it too much, just bend it back.

>>106434841
I told you that i bent it too much.

>>106434495
The 770s are NOT standards-compliant. They do NOT adhere to the target curve. You will put down your rebel headphones down, citizen.

>>106432313
I'll do the same when I've gotten more into the hobby and when I have more time. But at reasonable prices.

For everyone reading: What would you like to see in a headphone? Would be in 5 years earliest tho.

>>106434920
and i told you that you cannot "bend it too much"
fucking bend it back

>>106435291
Homebrew planars, or OEM drivers in a custom shell?
Either way an adjustment mechanism that holds solidly, and pads that are some common size so it's easy to get replacements. Also a single or dual-entry 3.5mm cable as that's what all my shit uses.

>>106434495
>goes from headphones with Beyer treble rape to normal sounding headphones
>aiiie it's le muddy
You're retarded. You're just used to Beyer's awful treble tuning. The bass on those is somewhat excessive so use a low shelf filter if that's your issue with them.
>>106435291
Suspension style headband with an adjustment system that doesn't become loose and dual entry locking connectors like Hirose or mini XLR.
>>106430670
Yes, mine. Bad headphones? Every single one (you) own.

>>106435693
t. only evidence of his headphones being good is a chart

>>106436461
>t. only evidence of his headphones being good is a chart
yes i do believe in the scientific method how could you tell

>>106436722
based and sciencepilled

I don't use headphones, this is what I have instead.

ruin your life and buy stax

you'll love it trust me

what headphone would be an improvement over my sennheiser hd419? (it just broke today)
shp9600, m20x, akg k92 or a sennheiser hd400s? (all of them are around the same price for me where I live - 3rd world sorry)

>>106437686
Get SHP9500 if you can since it's better than 9600. Otherwise SHP9600 for open back and M20X for closed.

How do we feel about Ultrasone in this general?

>>106438216
>Ultrasone

>>106424617 (OP)
I haven't bought headphones in 5 years, and both were 200$ ebay snipes
only buying pads and wasting money on amps has been great

>>106427928
I wish I got a 600, the fucking $600 commission OTL I got picks up so much interference at a low impedance. The old CTH works great tho.

>>106438453
*no, I'd never put the DCA with the OTL
I've just been playing with the 660 S(1) since I have a job now
really need to decide how I should trade the 660 for a 6## or something that can actually get decent impedance in the bass without spending more on this new amp.

>>106438453
ebay is fucking godtier for audio gear, I got 2 pairs of Stax SR-Signature a decade ago there

>>106439264 (cont.d)
The next thing I'll ebay is a chewed up HD 700

>>106439264
I can't trade a 660 s for a 660 s2 for a decent price on there tho. lol.
Either need a decent alternative for the OTL setup (not hard, I bet a NIB 600 reverb seller would love a 660 with a spare set of fresh pads) or a shop that has a used pair I can haggle with.
https://svwaudio.com.pl/projects/otl6n6p.php
amp in question that seems to love the highest impedance possible in the bass because there isn't enough dampening factor at the lower 660 impedance to eq the rolloff like the CTH can.

>>106438334
i freaking love tyll xD

this shit still worth?
it increased in price

>>106439984
As long as you apply some EQ to fix the peak in the treble caused by a resonance, yeah. Would still probably sound a little sharp but not bad overall.

Need something light and wireless for office and commute, compact but not IEM, preferably open or semi.
Talk me out of picrel.

>>106441304
The Bluetooth is trash on android. Commute bt streaming only, I got a Velcro cable tie to place the adapter cable around the edge of the case if I ever want to plug it in, you'd have the space to add a dongle adapter too.
I wouldn't get the cheaper KPH30 wireless, shit bt, no case, and no adapter cable included.
I really like using the pp wireless for commuting over my on-ear momentum 2s that I'd only use for VR porn now. Office really depends on noise level. If you need something that doesn't leak as much, they don't sell picrel anymore, but they worked quite well for the task and I haven't found a replacement. Had aptx (in the momentum 2.0/"HD1" outside the US) and ok (at the time) noise cancelling.
The batteries on all those are probably dead in the decade since release, but on-ear closed audio(mid)phile grade headphones are an ideal form I'd die to have come back with modern NC and codecs.

>>106427046
Most retarded sounding headphones i've ever tried and i don't know the tech jargon to tell you why (i think you'd call them muddy) but it sounds like we look for similar things in headphones. Don't do it, nigga.

>>106441641
harmonic distortion in the bass really depends on how you're driving the cans
>>106427046
>I like bass
get planars and eq the treble down ffs. save your ears the trouble.
If you don't want a high mw amp, the maxwell(2)s exist, and bass boost well.

Has anyone tried out the Acoustic Research AR-H1? How do they sound compared to more modern planars like the Sundaras?

>>106441979
pic related. pls respond

I need recommendations.
I picked up the Sony XM4 and they seem to have pretty awful audio quality. I can't tell what's putting me off, but I feel like I'm enduring something low quality. I don't wanna feel that when I'm working out.

I tried 'em on my PC, but Windows doesn't support LNC (?), so I was cucked from the get-go. Spatial audio also sounds like it's playing catch-up for some reason when I play a video-game. It's like it's not playing the spatial audio in real time, but through a cone.

Any replacements for a sweat enduring headphone, that I can use wirelessly, that doesn't require Sony LNAC bluetooth drivers, and can handle video-games alright? Or am I asking too much with all those features? I don't play video-games with voice-chat, but my girlfriend moved her shit into the living room. I'm semi-tempted to get a 10 euro microphone and use that instead.

I'm looking at
>Sennheiser MOMENTUM 4
>Bose QuietComfort SC

The Bose has the benefit of being sweat resistant for the gym, and I can pick up an audio driver separately if I want to lower the latency when connecting via bluetooth. (aptX Adaptive)

Sennheiser apparently has the better quality audio, but looser fit, so potentially gonna fall off my head doing weighted sit ups or bench.

>>106441979
usecase for planars?

>>106429351
MX50s are a tier above beats studios and a tier below DT770s having owned both. Honestly the soundstage of the MX50s kinda suck, but it has a fun V signature.

>>106441641
>(i think you'd call them muddy) but it sounds like we look for similar things in headphones
...so what would you raccomend as a dark headphone that "isn't muddy"?
>>106441739
>get planars
i'm shopping for <200$ closed back headphones and you suggest planars, sure...

>>106437837
How's 9500 better than 9600? Also would the open back fuck up my stream?

>>106443033
you can get powered maxwells on ebay now for 220, with the price only to go down in the near future if you can wait.
there's a decade worth of chifi driver planars to choose from too. dont be a bitch.

>>106435428
>Homebrew planars, or OEM drivers in a custom shell
Thinking of planars. I've got a FDM 3d printer, but I would want to print the finished product as SLM Aluminum, Titanium, and stainless Steel (customer chooses what material he likes)
>adjustment mechanism that holds solidly
The other dude wanted a suspension style headband, and I think I'll go for that as well.
>pads that are some common size so it's easy to get replacements
Like off the shelf pads? I'm open to recommendations.
>Also a single or dual-entry 3.5mm cable as that's what all my shit uses.
I think I'll make that an option as well, but always dual entry
>>106435693
>Suspension style headband with an adjustment system that doesn't become loose
Suspension style is what I wanted to go with, great that everyone agrees lol.
>dual entry locking connectors like Hirose or mini XLR.
I'll make different models so everyone can choose what they want.

>>106442860
Linear bass response, low THD, easy to EQ.
>>106441979
Can't help you much since I've never heard those myself but the tuning seems good, at least.
>>106443092
It has better tuning. They fucked the treble up in the 9600. I guess if you use EQ it doesn't matter which one of these two you get.
>would the open back fuck up my stream?
No.
>>106442789
>I picked up the Sony XM4 and they seem to have pretty awful audio quality.
Correct, those are pretty terrible.
>Spacial audio also sounds like it's playing catch-up
Bluetooth headphones usually have delay, that's probably what's happening.
Anyway, the Momentum sounds better but you can use EQ to fix the Bose's FR and at that point there wouldn't be much of a difference between those two, sound wise. And I've never had a good experience with anything wireless Sennheiser made.

Which one should I get?

>>106427046
HD 500/600 series are basically headphones: solved.
Do it

>>106443320
>HiFiMAN - Sundara
>Perfect to Anal,[ ]

>>106443384
yes.

>>106443320
Sundara has the best tuning out of those but chinkfiman's QC is awful. FT3 has a deep notch in the upper treble and that might make music sound lifeless. The Aune is solid build quality wise and sound wise but the treble is recessed. Imo the safest choice is the Aune unless you want to gamble at chinkfiman's QC lottery.
>>106443384
kek

>>106443273
>you can get powered maxwells on ebay now for 220
i'm so fucking confused at this point, what the fuck is a powered maxwell? all i could find is the audeze maxwell which is wireless slop i have absolutely no interest in.
>there's a decade worth of chifi driver planars to choose from too. dont be a bitch.
they're all much more expensive and not exactly what I'm looking for
>>106443355
the more i read about the hd 569/hd 620s the more it sounds that way
only thing they haven't really solved is earpads availability, the 569 oem pads are always out of stock for me (italy), but they reportedly work very well with the 620s pads... although those are very expensive (37€ a pair, for a 100€ headphone)
it's the only major flaw that's preventing this from being an impulse purchase for me, it seems sennhaiser has been shit at spare parts since the chinkification happened, a very big shame as these headphones seem to otherwise tick every box for me.

>>106443413
Thanks, mate. Gonna get Aune.

>>106424617 (OP)
I'm looking at the Audeze Maxwell right now. How's the Linux Support?

>Pic: Error: Upload failed.
Bro fuck off

>>106443435
they come with a USB dac on board dumbass
no amp necessary. self-powered. aux optional and included.
>>106443472
can't talk about the wireless since I never tried that on linux, but you can access the eq profiles without a desktop app with a generic usb audio driver and configure on an android app.

>>106443533
>they come with a USB dac on board dumbass
cool... and that still means they have a non-replaceable battery that's going to get fucked in X amount of years making the entire thing ewaste
and you're suggesting to get one used even... very clever
dumbass.

>>106443472
Works fine via cable or the dongle wirelessly. You can't switch EQ profiles on Linux, though.
>>106443598
I think what >>106443533 anon meant is you can connect and use them via USB-C even with a dead battery. But I wouldn't want to use wireless when I don't need to, either. Even if the Maxwell sounds good. Maybe get a Fostex T50RP. Pretty sure those are under 200 dollars.

>>106443297
>Like off the shelf pads? I'm open to recommendations.
Pretty much, just pick a common size, for example 105mm round pads. That would make them compatible with Hifiman, Fostex/Denon, most ZMFs, and a whole bunch of other pads.

>>106443642
>I think what >>106443533 anon meant is you can connect and use them via USB-C even with a dead battery
that means you're still giving power to a dead, potentially swollen battery which sounds even more retarded, i just don't want to deal with any of it, I want analog "dumb" headphones and nothing more.

>>106443704
>I want dumb audio
>>there's a decade worth of chifi driver planars to choose from too. dont be a bitch.
>>230 mr speakers on amazon
>>Maybe get a Fostex T50RP. Pretty sure those are under 200 dollars.
the dekoni blue fostex is 220 new anon

>>106443435
>oem pads
why

>>106443757
>230 mr speakers on amazon
there's no such thing as a decently priced dan clark retardation in italian amazon, fuck off already.
>>106443784
because I don't want to have the sound signature ruined by 2€ aliexpress chinkshit pads? it's the most important thing for the tuning of an headphone, i want to keep the original sound quality of it, simple as.
plus the only measurements you'll find are done with oem pads so you cannot use autoeq presets anymore once you switch to chinkshit pads.

>>106443533
Are these the best option for a wireless gamer headset? I'm not bothered about audiofag stuff I have wharfedale lintons for audiofagging.

>>106444092
They seem to break easily but other than that yeah

>>106444092
>wireless gamer headset
Enjoy you are lag

>>106443897
Thats why you shell out for the 5€ chinkshit pads

>>106437547
already planned. thought I'd want SR-007 but I'll probably go 009
or live happily ever after with my planars I dunno

How do i eq more soundstage?

>>106443897
ask me how I know you're an /iemg/ refugee

>>106424617 (OP)
>all of the squid EQs have different diffuse fields
what the fuck is going on?

>>106445404
crossfeed
should have bought a syn when it was for pennies

>>106445404
>boost 2k, lower 5k
>or inverse

>>106445471
...I'm not
I can't stand things pushed inside my ear canals.
how does wanting oem earpads to not fuck up the sound quality make me an iemg refugee? can you explain where the connection is? doesn't make any sense.
the only way I could have experienced this problem is by being an headphone user, iems don't have earpads...

>>106445780
the problem is more you than the pads anon

>>106445862
???

>tfw went out of my way to track down this song in lossless quality that I liked over 10 years ago
>song kinda sucks
>still in my 30s now
https://litter.catbox.moe/1fgz0hhn3xr55s8z.flac

>>106442917
They have to be miles above all the gaming headsets I've used for the last decade, minus the razer Megaladon, shirley

guys serious question

how do you guys determine the best volume level to use? the thing with super hifi headphones is that they're so crystal clear and there's so much instrument separation that its difficult to determine the right volume. like you might have some treble hitting 85db or w/e, or like something around 2-5k thats causing damage if you're listening to extended periods. with "regular" headphones, everything sounds like 1 wall of sound so its easy to determine the volume level. also because there's like no clipping/distortion as you raise the volume with super hifi stuff, thats another thing where it becomes hard to determine the right volume for long listening sessions. as you turn up volume you just get more clarity and more powerful bass impact. there's a temptation to turn up the volume, not knowing you might be raping your ears

at super low volume levels aswell, its still crystal clear, but you might be gimping yourself out of more volume/power that would sort of be wasted if you're not using it

im confused AF about finding the perfect volume. only way for me to find out would be to get a db/spl measurement device

you guys have any practical stuff? like ive read snapping your fingers is around 80-85db. so if you can do that (and you're wearing open backs) thats sort of around the right volume

when i listen at "low volumes" for long periods, i dont know if its like the higher frequencies and treble doing this? but even at that low volume, because of those higher frequencies i become extremely sensitive to sound. like i go outside and it feels extremely loud all of a sudden. like im more sensitive to sound, but because of that i cant determine the right volume

its so weird with hifi compared to just normal audio stuff. i like cant "feel out" the right volume. halp ;w;

>>106447329
depends on factors such as how much your ears hurt, temporary hearing loss, how high you are, whether you yawned enough, how poorfag your amp is, etc

>>106447329

oh and the other thing, these dacs and amps are so bloody powerful that only need to turn the knob slightly and its freaking blasting your ears to kingdom come

>>106447375

yeah...the thing about hifi is, it gives you more of the higher frequencies so there's more clarity, but actually the downside to that is that the cochea? (the tiny little hair follicles in your ear) are much more sensitive to those higher frequencies. they're the first to go as you get older, so like yeah, you get more clarity...but at potentially what cost? in nature you dont really encounter those higher frequencies that often. people claim they get fatigued by it aswell. this is kinda making me question and second guess hifi all together (or at least, the way i do it, which is "dedicated listening sessions for some short period)

>>106447450
>which is
which isnt*

i like to listen to music all day sometimes

>>106447450
Just don't use headphones with extreme treble. I've already seen a few people using Beyer/Hifiman cans claiming to have tinnitus afterwards. It's sadly a rarity to get hifi headphones with no treble rape nowadays since most audiophools think more treble=better. That's how you get shit like Meze absolutely ruining their Empyrean II with a huge treble spike when their first Empyrean actually had less treble than the Harman target. I personally know one guy who bought Hifiman Arya (against my recommendations not to) and then a few months later he says he has tinntius. Another issue are treble spikes beyond 10k which many audio engineers don't notice when making headphones since measuring rigs don't show that area accurately and if you're old enough you can't hear those frequencies anymore. Arya is an extreme example since it has so much treble over 10k it'll absolutely annihilate your ears if you're not 40+ years old.

>>106447450
How quiet is your house? Check your baseline tinnitus. If your hearing is getting worse, take better care of your ears.

>>106447467
>listening to music all day
It's like eating the same food all the time, after a certain point you stop tasting it

>>106447521
>and then a few months later he says he has tinntius

this is terrifying. i listen at extremely low volumes but the treble still irritates my ears and causes like a 20 second tinnitus episode. ive also become really sensitive to sound. bloody hell. maybe i shouldnt mess with this stuff and just get me some hd 650's or closed backs i can listen too at lower volumes

>>106447611
sounds like you need a glass of water desu

Personally? It’s Stax for me

>>106447665

hmm im probably sensitive to treble. like my ears arent used to having those frequencies stimulated, so just the stimulation in and of itself is the culprit most likely

>>106447611
>>106447703
As long as you don't use headphones with extreme treble or at least decrease the treble with EQ if you do you'll be fine. But in my experience that sensitivity to sound or "fatigue" as some people call it is usually due to excessive treble. I'd know, I've used chinkfiman cans before. There's a bunch of manufacturers that don't add excessive treble like DCA, Audeze(well, for the most part), HD6X0 models etc. If you're sensitive to treble I'd just stay away from Hifiman and Beyerdynamic as a general idea. I always test new headphones by comparing with my trusted cans on some tracks and if there's any sibilance on one pair and not the other I either only use them with EQ or return them. Some Arya users have conditioned themselves into thinking all music is supposed to be sibilant.

eq guide for headpos when?

>>106447450
>in nature you dont really encounter those higher frequencies that often
as someone that is still hunting for some good dark sounding headphones (i'm the anon that was asking for opnions on the hd 569 for this reason) and struggling at finding any good ones, this is the part that really doesn't make any sense to me
sibilance is literally just... recording artifacts, it's something that isn't supposed to be there, it's a kind of noise that doesn't exist anywhere in the real world, the reason studio headphones emphasize sibilance is literally so the audio engineer notices it and fixes it during mixing/mastering so it doesn't make it into the final product that the consumer listens to... and yet audiophools love it and all sorts of hi-fi audio gear is plagued by it for this reason, makes no fucking sense at all to me.
and the fact that so much music is mastered with treble rape in the first place also doesn't make any sense.
getting your eardrum pierced = detail, sounds amazing!!!
??? k

>>106447855

i think boomers are somewhat to blame also. they tend to love it due to their hearing becoming duller to those higher frequencies as they age

>>106447682
Mogged by picrel

What software do you guys use to play your .flac library on your computer? Don't say buy a music player.

>>106447944
foobar2000 is the only correct answer.

>>106447944
foobar2k or musicbee

>>106447944
foobar2000 or AIMP

>>106447383
that's what a preamp is for anon
should have bought a syn when it was for pennies, motorized master volume
>>106447611
>tinntius
ya'll are lucky, I got tinnitus from west nile as a kid
all it takes is a bad inner ear infection, and you can lose balance/hearing
>>106447944
mpv, plays atmos rips with the windows driver, only to be downprocessed by the syn

>>106447922
doubt but would like to listen, enjoying he1000se right now

>>106447961
mpd*

Trying out K11 R2R. Updated firmware, set NOS, 1-bit DSD decoding. I'm listening with and without picrel. It sounds like an image looks after resampling. Thought that was interesting.

>>106448328
I recently found out I had a fungal infection in both ears
it was a revelation

>>106447922
>Nectar HiveX Electrostatic Headphones
wtf is that a headphone made by bees???1

>>106427046
>k371 but without the abysmal build quality
The build quality is ok.

>>106449756
'fraid so

My HD598s are getting old, what's my best bet for open planars in the €500-800 range in Europe? Saw the Fiio FT7s, but the shitty plastic adjustment thingy immediately turned me off those, if I'm paying that kind of money at the very least don't use cheap plastic shit.

Give me some recommendations for a high quality amp, I recently bought a Fiio K7 but its defective and started earraping me with crackling noises after two days of use.

>>106443033
>.so what would you raccomend as a dark headphone that "isn't muddy"?
i like my fiio ft1

>>106451705
jds lab stuff if you are living in the US

>>106451705
I was going to recommend headnhifi in Europe (got my O2 amp from there some 10 years ago, and apparently they were stocking the Atom at some point) but it appears they no longer exist
the amp is still going strong by the way, although I'm using something fancier and class A that probably doesn't sound any different when A/B tested instead right now

>>106449872
let's pretend the build quality of the k371 is as good as the 569's
>50€ more expensive
>no replacement earpads available
>unreplaceable headband
>less comfortable
>slightly less passive noise isolation
>retarded mini-xlr connector instead of 2.5"
>slightly more distortion, slghtly less sensitive (slghtly harder to eq or run on eu-cucked phone)
sound signature is about the same, I couldn't find a single thing that the k371 does better
>>106451911
>50€ more expensive
>chinkshit build quality
>no earpad replacements available atm (they actually have some sheepskin ones but not the same that ship with the headphones)
>dual entry connection that I hate
>less sensitivity
>not nearly as dark as i'd like
>worse nose isolation
>minor nitpick: but i overall just don't like how it looks
I also couldn't find anything that the ft1 does better than the hd 569, maybe those alcantara earpads are very comfy in the summer? well you can't buy them after the original ones wear out so it doesn't even matter.

>>106451487
I had HD598 now HD660S2 and to be quite honest family the sound quality is at least two steps ahead. Better clarity, tonality, "less diffused soundstage" but at the same time sounds somehow wider than HD598 with holographic presentation (I would describe a "holographic" as some sound cues that feels like they are in their own sound bubble in rendered 3D sound space)

Sounds overall fuller in low bass and have that mid range magic without being harsh, I feel after 6 hours of vidya or listening to music like a refreshed man, like after a good massage to my neurons, stress relieved.

There is requirement tho: It needs and AMP to fully shine, I have tried with apple dongle and sounded in slow motion and under a blanket.

You can find them for $350-$400 nowadays.

>>106451487
DCA Aeon Open, LCD-2 Classic, Verum One/Two. Don't bother with chinkshit planars if you have a decent budget.

>>106452589
These look like a good deal, but I've wanted to switch to planars for a while.
>>106453055
Thanks, good suggestions, looking at LCD-2 Classic and Verum Two right now, but the LCD-2 is almost twice the price of the Verum and going by reviews they trade blows, both having the edge in some areas over the other. I don't have an amp, so I could fit the Verum and an amp in the price of the LCD-2, which makes the choice pretty clear.

The problem is Verum 2 are all out of stock and seemingly not sold on the official website.

>>106451705
>>106452165
Lake People stuff is all German-made and properly engineered

>>106453278
Yeah, pretty sure Verum promised to send all the 2s to backers before they're available for sale to everyone and he's making those at a glacial pace. For all it's worth, I've tried all of those except Verum Two because of the reason you posted and like Aeons the most. Audeze usually has a sale on their refurbished stuff near the end of the year but that's always only a few select models. Funnily enough, Verum One and Two are both such sensitive headphones that you probably wouldn't even need an amp to drive them.

Sennheiser is a solved headphone.

Is "soundstage" even real or is it just more pretentious audiophile wankery?

I put a 7.5 subbass shelf on these and they basically sound perfect to me.

>>106447773
I really can't be bothered to write anything longer right now but here's the short version.
>EQ software
EqualizerAPO + Peace for Windows
EasyEffects for Linux
>I want already made EQ presets
Oratory1990 for made and tested presets tuning to harman for a bunch of headphones. Amir on ASR also adds an EQ preset to the headphones he reviews. These are not harman, just general improvements, lighter on the amount of filters.
>I want a preset I can tweak
AutoEQ. Uses headphone measurements to create a harman preset, can use your own measurements if you have them. Can also change the preset to an extent and can visually see how the graph looks like. Can be imperfect since it's automated.
>How do I make my own presets
https://squig.link/ or https://crinacle.com/graphs/ for graphs(and only graphs, crinacle's tier lists are terrible) and tune accordingly.
>how do I EQ
You set the frequency, the gain, Q factor, filter type and preamp gain.
>frequency
Self explanatory.
>gain
How many dB you want to increase or decrease a particular frequency
>Q factor
Width of the filter. If you don't know what you're doing don't set it to something crazy like 8, use lower values.
>filter type
Bell/peak affects a singular point. High shelf and low shelf affect everything beyond or below a particular frequency. High pass and low pass prevent any frequencies beyond or below the frequency you set.
>preamp gain
Usually used to prevent clipping of the amp. Set it to AT LEAST the negative of the maximum boost you add to the preset. For example if you boost the bass by 6dB then the preamp gain should be -6 dB at least.
Maybe I'll write something longer later if I feel like it.
>>106454960
It's usually caused by crossfeed or particular frequencies being boosted. That's why the more a headphone leaks sound the larger the perceived soundstage. Also affected by pad size for example. So basically it's all in le head of yours.
>>106451705
You sure it's defective? Some FiiO amps have sleep mode

I like open cans but I don't like sound leakage, so I'm completely fucked

Is there an actually good boom-style/attachable mic that doesn't seem designed to break within a couple years? Don't want desk/arm mic. Must I tape one of those old faggy rossman stage mics to the side of my phones?
pic I chopped up Antlion Kimura, only need the mic. Lightweight enough to happily chill on little plastic clasp for a year or so then just shits the bed for no visible reason. I'm done with antlion gaymics even if the capsules are good they are overpriced and literally at best have the material/product/ux designed by retards and at worst intentionally built to fail
i am beyond mad
Shill me a proper solution

>>106455073
>here's the short version
>wall of text
maybe I'll just buy good headphones not made by sennheiser or go >>106454823 route

>>106455178
Use a cable with an integrated mic like the Meze Boom Mic.
>doesn't seem designed to break within a couple of years
That's all of them, I'm afraid. Some are better built than others but they're still shittier than even the shittiest of arm mics.
Nice deskmat btw.
>>106455211
If you can't be bothered to make your own EQ preset then it's as simple as
>download eq software
>copy preset from Amir/Oratory/AutoEQ
>activate preset
Done. Whole thing takes 5 minutes. If you cannot use software you shouldn't use computers.

>>106454960
>soundstage
soundstage as used by headphone/iem audiophools =/= soundstage as used by speaker audiophools
soundstage is more akin to perceived spaciousness, not actual sound localization
>>106455073
>>106455225
just use the iemg eq guide, if you get to the small details like hptf and acousticZ then you don't need a guide

>>106455225
>Meze Boom
Can you spin it around freely/turn the mic away without flexing mechanical or electrical parts? I think even the third party cables I replaced on these T1s have a screw thread holding them in so not sure ideally compatible. Also plastic cable outer I'm a bit autistic about stuff that regularly touches - can resleeve cables but often annoying with audio connectors
Appreciate the suggestion tho will keep in mind & check some audio samples
>deskmat
daki cover feat "Coronachan" personal commission

>>106455428
>soundstage is more akin to perceived spaciousness, not actual sound localization
tell that to VR ear speakers. you can optimize driver positioning and signal processing to achieve a variable sound stage with pinpointable precision at the cost of incompatibility with 2ch music.
what you're spending money on for soundstage in headphones is driver positioning and high frequency fidelity. same shit speakers use in combination with surround processing and crossfeeds (that you can still use with headphones, you just have way fewer drivers) to get perceptually further out instruments.

>>106455610
Actually any good? wat is this thing
>at the cost of incompatibility with 2ch music
There's no reason that needs to be a thing it's presumably still 2 central/main drivers per side
You can already do fully convincing 3D audio with two good drivers fairly standard DAC and a HRTF algo

>>106455601
>Can you spin it around freely/turn the mic away without flexing mechanical or electrical parts?
More or less. Similar to all the other boom mics of this type like the Vmoda Boom Pro and all the other chink copies of similar mics. This one's just better built since it uses some metal and uses double connectors instead of a single jack like most. Still probably not that durable but better than random chinkshit for sure.
>I think even the third party cables I replaced on these T1s have a screw thread holding them in so not sure ideally compatible
Might not be, yeah.
>daki cover feat "Coronachan" personal commission
Based. Is it 2way tricot or something else?

>>106455713
>2way tricot
Of course! +nsfw side

>>106455718
nice

>>106455666 (checked)
>Actually any good? wat is this thing
valve index earspeaker drivers in a prototype case
https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/index/deep-dive/ear-speakers
they're very good for their task of replicating real-world audio, it's like ear speakers >>> on-ears > over ears with positioning to the pinna > IEMs (you cant add your own HRTF, but I assume if you could IEMs would be higher)
>There's no reason that needs to be a thing it's presumably still 2 central/main drivers per side
VR games. you're sacrificing normal audio to be able to compute "real" audio positioning in a 3d space. Different from shit like atmos, although maybe you could find a way to render that in a VR version of cavernize or something.
if you put normal audio though those drivers, it'd need to be EQ'd to hell and would sound like those other earspeakers with moveable driver positioning that sacrifice a lot for perceptual soundstage.

>>106455178 me
Okay I should take some criticism back. The mic still works after I physically replugged this cheap DAC I only use for input. Was convinced the mic was dead coz it's been like that for a day and through 2 PC restarts. Maybe something in this little shit locked up and needed being disconnected from power to recover.
my anger continues to simmer

>>106449700
Using foo_pggb_rt now. Damn you need a fast computer for this

>>106451705
TA-66 @ $170 https://www.amazon.com/LEAUDIO-XDUOO-Headphone-Amplifier-High-Performance/dp/B0CXDLDVC5/

>>106443033
HE-R9 @ $53 https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/he-r9-refurbished.html

I need to compare K11 R2R + PGGB vs sigmadelta

>>106458007
who the FUCK cares about dacs
upsampling is a meme for people who don't know how filtering works or to justify shelling out for chord
let people have their multibits

>>106458054
Meds.

>>106458166
DAC debates are a cancer of signal processing only cured by a sisyphean project in passive radar
they dont fucking matter.

>>106458188
>>>/g/iemg

>>106458195
>>>/trash/

>>106458203
Oh no God forbid I scroll past all your gay little charts and listen for myself.

lmao these reddit faggots

>>106458210
your amp has more impact in fixing the loudness wars than your DAC
it's not up for debate

>>106458225
Yeah, except I'm listening to vinyl rips and Japanese memes that aren't affected by it. Nigger.

>>106458236
>Nigger.
this redditor really just called him a nigger

>>106458245
And this redditor belongs in >>106438845

>>106458250
the sheriff's a

>>106458236
then spend your money on a phono preamp

For me, it’s Sennheiser

Help me understand tube amps.

What music does /hpg/ listen to? You guys don't exclusively listen to animeshit and k-pop, do you?

>>106458539
used to increase distortion and maybe change fr through high oi
both idiotic ways of changing your gear, but the tubes light up so you're missing out if you don't have one

>>106458007
tl;dr Sigma-delta is smoother and bass is perfectly smooth. R2R with oversampling is also smooth but sharper. If you focus on this, sigma-delta has more imaging details but R2R is more upfront. This also has an effect where R2R doesn't distract from vocals as much, it's less smoothed over.

>>106458545
Animeshit, boomer metal, vidya, metal, electronic

>>106458545
bandcamp collection expands every day

>>106458545
Vidya too!

>>106458567
R2R without oversampling sounds pixelated on "big" music and comparing to sigmadelta would be apples and oranges. In that case you'd be better off digging out specific tracks that would sound best on each DAC tech.

>>106458471
same
>t. EQ'd 650

HD6- series and the 800S are the best headphones ever made. No, you don't need niggerbass.

>>106458687
Yes I need nigger based, I don't exclusively listen to Vocaloid and boring tranny music

>>106458687
hd6 is overrated, you can find better for cheaper
800s is the goat of qc and peak design

>>106458687
headphones you can listen to at high volume without any pain frequencies define good
only DCA and Senn have shown such responses to me, return policies hate me.
>>106458732
>better for cheaper
200 bucks is a decent price, don't be convinced to spend more without owning something in that range.
ebay exists. reverb exists. use them.

>>106458539
Look neat

>>106458757
it's decent but you can get better sounding stuff for cheaper than that. it's still good but there are some flaws
if we take into account build and longevity then they go up in terms of rating, they can take a beating

>>106458757
why get veilheiser 600/550/590/6XX/650-etc memephone rehashes when you can just get a pair of used 700

>>106458798
I guess, if you REALLY are in it for soundstage or electronic and want to spend less on something, then there are options. I spent a lot of time trying to tune v-shaped headphones that only really worked for gaming or electronic and wasted time on overpowered amps/tech BULLSHIT until I moved back to senns. It's a clear good default.
Started with falling for vmoda marketing and momentums, ended with stuff that can actually be considered reference audio.

>>106458849
lol I own a used 660s1. we share drivers.

>>106458850
memeheiser needs gear tho. why are EQfags like this

>>106458869
not as much as a semi-closed planar that cant fucking stop resonating at 5k
shit can run on my audioengine, >>106458863 reminder I'm at 150ohm

same

https://files.catbox.moe/k9yyad.flac

...same.

>>106458539
Cheap amps for poorfags and enlightened Sennheiser owners

>>106458539
if you just want to listen to your music, don't bother. it won't add anything to your enjoyment of music.
if you just want to listen to your music, definitely get one. it adds a lot to your enjoyment of music.

>>106459015
are you a wizard

>>106459029
i am a loveless, kissless, middle aged virgin, yes.

>>106459127
not him, but

word

>>106452559
>I also couldn't find anything that the ft1 does better than the hd 569
you really don't know anything until the headphones arrive and you plug them in. Get those 569s and try not to think about how i'm laughing at you while you convince yourself they sound good.

>>106458615
mfw 44.1KHz was never enough and OS DACs masked this

>>106459331
He looked at the chart, anon.

>>106458261
:) rare

mp3 player for poor person (me)

>>106459599
like some things never change. I can't afford a top of the line walkman somehow.

>>106459599
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqQLmpj

>>106459656
did i mention handmade in germany, teakwood

>>106424617 (OP)
Fuckin love JBL, my JBL headphones haven't broken after 2 years which is a record for me and headphones because I'm a fucking RETARD.

>>106454960
"soundstage" is an entirely subjective experience
everyone's ears are different, "soundstage" is likely when the frequency of the headphones correlates to the listener's own
music isn't mastered for headphones so you rarely get any cool 'binaural' effects that would make it actually sound 3d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edzVi1hTuQg&list=RDedzVi1hTuQg&start_radio=1

>>106461027
I bet you have a smartphone with a cracked screen.

How you mongoloids survive into adulthood is a mystery to me.

most fun headphones for movies and games?

>>106457782
me: looking for something with better build quality than k371
this nigger: just get some 50$ refurbished chifimans
kekw

>>106459331
the fact you think sound quality is the only thing that matters in a headphone is already telling that you're completely retarded
let's say the ft1 sounds actually great... what am I going to do when the earpads go to shit after 2 years and no oem replacements are availalble? buy a new one? try 100 different chinkshit pads on it until i find one that sounds almost as good as the original?
sennheiser just restocked the hd 569 earpads yesterday and they're still available for purchase today so I guess that worry is gone, they do restock these from time to time, going a week with slightly worn pads while I wait for a restock is much better than having to throw away the entire headphone.
it's like you ignored every single point I gave to why the ft1 doesn't look appealing and just went MUUHHH BUT SOUND QUALITY when i don't even like its sound signature to begin with so that point is also bogus
>audiophool can't comprehend some people don't like treble
classic

Is there like a /g/ wiki for headphone recs or not? Can i just ask for recommendations here?

>>106462197
there's a template message for asking recs, rankings suck for this
>price range
>drivability (what hardware do you have/willing to buy)
>tone preference (if you can EQ too)
>"soundstage" preference
>intended usecase (open/closed, creature comforts, gayming, genre)

wish I could watch the jaws of /hpg/ friends drop while listening to my headphones

>>106462983
pics or gtfo

Does anyone know how artists add sub-bass to music? The HD600s are the status-quo template audio device of choice for based gigachads, yet it doesn’t have sub-bass. Does someone have to volunteer as the un-based loser to get sub-bass added to the mix?

>>106463008
I uhhhh don't own a smartphone but I'll maybe figure out a way to post a pic within the next 3 months, okay? I still have a few mods to do here and there too

>>106463009
2.2ch chads rise up

>>106463009
mfw planar IEM > 600heiser memes

>>106462157
fiio ft1 is wayy more comfy than hd569 despite "chinkshit build quality" + comments like that mean nothing compared to the flawless credibility of my firsthand experience

I like my HD660s2that I got to replace my ancient HD650s but usually just listen to my planar speakers now

What makes a good dac/amp? I'm using fiio e10k with no issues so far am i doing it wrong? what would be a good upgrade

any recs for a headset as good as the sennheiser game one in the same price range? 100-150€. Prefer openback so I can wear it for 12 hours a day comfortably

>>106464104
should add needs to come with a mic

>>106464007
nobody can agree on that
I have an E10K myself, also a Topping D10, D10B, an O2 amp and a Singxer SA-1 (which I mostly see as a big heavy glorified knob - having a lot of volume headroom is nice I guess but hard to justify)
I also returned a lot of DACs between the $400 and $700 mark because they weren't doing anything audibly different to the sound unlike what old people on head-fi were claiming
my advice would be to focus on headphones and only consider replacing stuff if you very clearly need more juice

>>106462094
And yet $50 gets you something that won't fall apart or snap. Less is more.

>>106464007
>What makes a good dac/amp?
High amount of power, high dynamic range, good SINAD(signal to noise ratio). Ideally you want 80+ SINAD at least. 96 or above is completely transparent but even less than that is basically imperceptible to the human ear unless you run your headphones at 100+ dB.
>>106464104
SHP9500+Vmoda BoomPro. PC37X is a rebranded game one and 38X is an improved version but headphone+boom mic >>> headset.
>>106464438
>chinkfiman
>won't fall apart or snap
Chang, please.

>>106463761
>fiio ft1 is wayy more comfy than hd569 despite "chinkshit build quality"
...how are the two things related at all?
"it's comfy despite having bad build quality"... ok and?
>comments like that mean nothing compared to the flawless credibility of my firsthand experience
so the fact that fiio doesn't even sell replacement pads means nothing because in your firsthand experience... you haven't yet worn out your first pair of earpads? like seriously, how am i even supposed to interpret that?
what a fucking retard
>>106464438
probably the ft1 faggot samefagging, wonder how much he's getting paid by chinks
anyways thanks for clearing my mind up, i'll order the hd 569.

>>106464613
>i'll order the hd 569.
KWAB

>price range
200 or 300$ depending on how worth it would be to pay extra
>drivability (what hardware do you have/willing to buy)
Just my pc and my iphone bro :^)
>tone preference (if you can EQ too)
What that mean
>"soundstage" preference
What that mean
>intended usecase (open/closed, creature comforts, gayming, genre)
I use my airpods pro2 all the time and it’s one of the best purchases i made but… sometimes i want to listen to music as an experience in on itself instead of something to run in the background and the airpods just don’t scratch the itch. I want a good wireless headphone for home use where i can use it for like 3-4 hours a day in front of pc on average or something i can just put on and lay on my bed and listen to my fav songs in high fidelity.

Since i’m used to airpods quality, i’m not really looking for a really high-end setup or anything like that, but something to at least “wow” me for the first few weeks of using it.

It definitely has to be wireless. I had bad experience with wired headphones in the past.

Noise Cancelling would be nice but not a must

Idk about genre but my fav artists are;
Boards of canada, aphex twin, alice in chains, nirvana, linkin park, limp bizkit, rhcp, low roar.. then also a bunch of other electronic stuff like pendulum and jamie xx. Oh, and a bunch of gaymin ost ofc
So in short, electronic music, numetal and grunge.


>TLDR
Just give me the best headphone 200-300 bucks can buy that will give me the best experience listening to “Alberto Balsalm” on loop.

>>106465150
>Just give me the best headphone 200-300 bucks can buy
>wireless
Nothing wireless will be "the best" in that price range but if you want something not terrible then Edifier S3 or Audeze Maxwell.
>>tone preference (if you can EQ too)
>What that mean
Whether you prefer more treble(bright), more bass(warm) or something neutral.

>>106464556
>he snaps his non-senn headphones
Nigger please.

>>106464613
Does the HD 569 snap or bend?

>>106465272
> Nothing wireless will be "the best" in that price range
Well, what about headphones with replacable wire? I basically don’t want my headphone to become paperweight if the wire gets damaged

>>106465333
Most decent wired headphones have replaceable cables. For best audio quality get a pair of open backs if you don't need them to block noise. Aune AR5000, HD6XX are both decent options. Maybe FT1 Pro if you want to try a planar magnetic headphone.
>>106465282
Not really, since I use well made headphones nowadays. I used to have an Arya that fucking fell apart, however.

>>106465272
>Nothing wireless will be "the best" in that price range but if you want something not terrible then Edifier S3 or Audeze Maxwell.
the main thing with wireless is to ditch the bluetooth, but he's an iphone user so the S3 should probably be decent, genuinely confused at the marketing for these, audeze penrose rebrand sold as an edifier stax.
it does have aac and EQ so I'd point him there unless gaming headset is appealing
>>106465333
well that changes things. Without a way to play higher impedance, the AR5000 is probably the best bet, will work with your apple dongle.

>>106465419
>>106465365
So i checked the models you’ve mentioned
Aune has no distributors where i live. Can’t import it either because of the third world shithole i am living in
Sennheiser i couldn’t any of the hd6xx series at msrp, even then they are pretty expensive
FT1 Pro Sounds very appealing to me from what i’ve looked up and is pretty accessible for purchase. Anything else i should know about them?

>>106465803
>FT1 Pro Sounds very appealing to me from what i’ve looked up and is pretty accessible for purchase. Anything else i should know about them?
Can play loud from portable sources so you should have no issues running it from a phone. Distortion is low but higher in the bass so if you're planning to EQ them for more bass for example, don't go too crazy. Build quality is decent but make sure you get the new version with better screws, see picrel. If the headband is not comfortable enough stock then you can 3d print or buy an attachable suspension headband for them. If you want more bass there's also the regular FT1 but FT1 Pro has a better frequency response so should sound better.

>>106465894
one last thing, does the quality of the 3.5mm to usbc adapter i buy for my iphone matter for sound quality?

>>106465150
There are no good wireless headphones.
Ironically the Airpods Pro 2 is quite good for a TWS, but it absolutely shits the bed the second you want to use it with something non-Apple, meaning you're cooked for your use case.

>>106463009
They use studio monitor speakers

>>106466810
To be fair there are no good wired headphones either.

>>106466777
Some of those cheap ones are really shitty and could cause sound degradation. The Apple dongle is actually the best adapter of this type since it supplies a decent amount of power and is completely transparent. No need for anything more expensive than that.

>>106466857
MOGGED

>>106467128
I love headphones that sound different every time I put them on.

>>106467151
Jeepers! What a complete disaster of a headphone! How did this get past quality control?! I mean seriously folks? Yikes... A 2db decrease just wow... I'll have to warn r/headphones about this. Not a good look DCA, not a good look...

>>106467151
Nigger, who measured this and what was used to measure it? Meaningless graph otherwise

>>106467541
Actually it doesn't matter at all because it happens on every rig. That's just how headphones work.

I have a TV -> DAC -> headphones that I'm going to use for an old person who refuses to get hearing aids to watch tv with. I didn't realize the headphones needed inline volume control, the dac has no controls on it either.

Which China numbah one brand has something suitable? The problem is they actually have to be able to get loud so they can't be utter shit. A long cable would be nice but I can get an extension.

>>106467151
>>106467403
>>106467541
>>106467571
>all done on hairless glassless smooth skin bald hats
always been over
sincerely
iemg

>>106467938
Baldness is good for headphones and headphones make you bald. Symbiosis.

Any recommendations for headphones with a budget of 100-150?
My Sennheisers 599 fell apart after three years of use and now I'm looking for a replacement within that budget just want something that will last me and be of good quality not exactly an audiophile but shitty headphones sounds really puts me off.

>>106467938
The fact that ear dildos bypass pinna interaction, which the brain expects when hearing sounds, and vary greatly on insertion depth and air volume will forever make ear penetration an inferior listening experience. You may continue to cope.

>>106468243
ok sure but don't delude yourself into thinking that having high distortion and high noise floor is any better

why

>>106468243
>Pinna interaction
Oh God, just stop. The difference of "pinna interaction" between Headphones and iems is totally negligible. If there was any significant interaction, we would see a difference in tuning philosophy in headphones regarding the 1-5khz hump being either far lower or just unnecessary, when in reality, well-regarded headphones like the HD600 has this hump and is argued to be the most normal sounding headphone. Headphones have to do just as much of the work to sound normal to ears as iems.

>>106468168
Here you go https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/he-r9-refurbished.html
I don't blame you for leaving snapheiser, the superior sound of the he-r9 is a bonus

>>106467938
listen to real music
sincerely hpg
ps you'll never eq yourself into a woman

any reccomendations for the smoothest sounding cable?

>>106468443
true, there's a reason why there is no correlation between hptf and hrtf

>>106467888
Get an amp with a remote and use that to control the volume. Both Topping and Schiit have a few options like that. Also, Audeze engineers their higher end headphones to be able to play at extreme volumes for people with hearing damage. That's why they have little distortion even at 110 dB, they're meant to be used at a SPL of up to 130 dB! Anything LCD-2C or better, that is.
>>106468168
SHP 9500, ATH M50X, HD560s, FiiO FT1.
>>106467128
>not posting the ACTUAL best DCA headphone
ngmi

Any one actually use capra straps? Are they comfy? I'm thinking about buying some TPU and printing some but I'm not sure if it's worth it

getting speakers cured my gear hopping

>>106468243
There's a million of wrong ways to interact with the pinna.

Anyone know a good dac/amp that's as small as the Mojo, but has a knob for volume control? Getting sick of the fucking buttons. I need it for my desktop, so no batteries probably.

>>106426434
finally some good advice

>>106437547
I know exactly who you are. I've seen you on telegram.

>>106470490
>The same headphone can sound a thousand different ways, slightly change the position and you get a brand new headphone without having to buy the new chink pos of the month.

I don't see the problem here, /iemg/ trannybros keep seething

Is a focal clear (og or used MG)still a good option around the $500-700 price range for people looking for slightly dark neutrals?

>>106461675
Easy. AKG K1000, from 1989.

>>106473552
In what kind of homoverse a negative amount of bass is considered fun?

>>106470490
>mfw I can rotate SR-007 earcups and pads to create the soundstage I want

hey anon, what’s listening?

>>106475259
>192khz 24bit music
not good enough
OS OS OS OS
x3d is an audiophile cpu class

>>106470438
Gear hopping doesn't need to be cured unless you're a poorfag

>>106475346
Being able to fit an entire album in L4 cache is poggers ngl desu famalam senpai frfr

Anons, are there good in-ear headphones for cycling that don't shit themselves when they encounter wind or rustle like crazy?

>>106476120
The mic on them, I mean*

>>106475677
jokes on you
I can already do that with a non-x3d 5700x thanks to 96 kbps vbr opus

>>106476120
>>106476128
No. Either cover your head and ears with something or use something like https://www.cat-ears.com/ but I'm pretty sure it's not that effective.
>>106474942
For me it's picrel

>>106474436
SR-007 truly is full of weird choices
even the pads let you remove the outer jacket completely to access the foam, which I've not really seen anywhere else

>>106476452
Sorry, I guess I was rather unclear in my post: I'm not so fast that I can't hear my headphones, I'm just looking for headphones with a mic that can stand a bit of wind and clothes rustling without going crazy. Basically I want to be in a voice call while riding, and I want to not rape the ears of people I'm talking to. (my heavy breathing excluded I guess).

some notes others might find useful (from browsing headfi for 5 days)

>>106476921
Airpods Pro, unironically. But there's no wireless in ears that can block that to a decent degree, this is just least terrible option.

>>106477192
not horrible for headfi, but still a lot of dogshit and nothing that has been "learned"

>>106477192
>browsing headfi
Here's a tip: don't. >>106477244 is right. Not everything you wrote is wrong, mind you, but a lot of that is retardation. There are better headphones than HD800 for a fraction of the price. It is by all means an overpriced but well built headphone. For headphones look at the frequency response so it's the sort of signature you enjoy and watch out for headphones with high distortion, resonances and shit build quality. For DAC/Amps just get one with a high dynamic range and 90+ SINAD. Done, it's a solved technology. There are a lot of expensive amps that are terrible. Price means nothing. Also, NEVER choose chinkfiman anything since their build quality is shit and Arya earrapes you with treble. The new Focal Clear is also doshit. The old one is better, sure. Don't fall for the audiophoolery, you'll end up spending thousands on dogshit equipment because muh soundstage or gold cables. Headfi is dogshit. Use ASR or diyaudioheaven instead.

>>106477321
>There are better headphones than HD800 for a fraction of the price

like hifi/end game territory, can you name them?

>>106477499
>like hifi/end game territory
yes
>can you name them?
yes
Aune AR5000 ~300 USD
DCA Aeon RT/X ~400/500 USD
Audeze LCD-2F ~1000 USD
Audeze LCD-X ~ 1200 USD
DCA Noire XO ~ 1200 USD
These are just a few examples. All vastly cheaper than the ~2000 USD Sennheiser charges for HD800. The only HD800 that's worth it is a used one.

>>106477540
3 of those, at least where i live cost more than the hd800S. you could also sell the hd800S included cables for a good amount if you were so inclined

>>106477594
sorry, 1 of them* the lcd-x i looked at cost 200 US more than the h800S so i assumed the other 2 would cost more aswell, but they're either below by a small margin (100 or so)

but yeah, the cables sell for quite a bit so idk. in the long term aswell how do those stack up for part replacement?

>>106477594
>>106477638
>1 of those, at least where i live costs more than the hd800S
My condolences. See the others, then. And these are just a few examples. There's a lot of other very good models like DCA's Ethers, Audeze's LCD-GX. Not to mention you can also get vintage Stax+an energizer for a decent price as well.
>the cables sell for quite a bit so idk
Or you could just get better headphones instead of spending more and selling the cables? You do you, anon. Maybe try to demo them at the store first before you actually buy them, though.
>in the long term aswell how do those stack up for part replacement?
DCA sells new pads, cables, and the jack if you somehow manage to rip it off. Audeze sells basically everything but the drivers or the housing. So headband, yokes, earpads etc. Aune I'm not sure of. They do sell pads.

haven't tried DCA myself but the fact that they're to my knowledge the only ones to offer sub-400 grams planars (aside from a few hifiman units, but that's not necessarily a good sign in their case) does seem appealing

>>106477717
His Aeons are some the lightest planars I know of, yeah. Really big difference comfort wise when you switch from an LCD-2 to these back to back. Audeze always uses magnesium so everything they make is heavy as fuck. Meanwhile everything DCA makes uses a titanium headband that's really tiny. That's probably why they're light. That and the driver size, probably.

fastest driver ever?
also make a new thread pls pls pls pls pls pls

>>106477540
the Aeon has some hard brakes on tube amps because of it's insanely low impedance and coupling at the low end. Unless you're spending a ton on amps you don't have a lot of headroom, esp if you hate muddy bass.

>>106478076
I don't think it was made with tube amps in mind. Not ideal for tubes, for sure. It needs about 700 mW for 94 dB but you could get a solid state amp that can supply that much at Aeon's 13 ohms without spending too much money. Still kind of weird how DCA marketed it as a portable headphone despite the ridiculous power requirements.

>>106477207
Well, luckily I'm fine with wired, actually. I'm neither picky nor fancy, I only care that the mic quality is decent-ish with a bit of wind happening.

>>106478102
it works WELL with hybrids since they have the power, but not so much OTLs like the senns can
DCA knew to work with Schiit and their budget offerings are more than enough

>>106478137
midfi budget*

>>106478107
Ah, that makes things simple, then. Moondrop MC2 mic cable + IEM of your choosing. Truthear Zero Red is pretty good for example. If you want something cheaper that's all in one then Truthear Gate has a mic cable option and the whole thing is like 25 bucks.

>>106478176
That seems like a great recommendation, thanks anon!

>>106477192
slight amendment to those notes

>>106477321
>For DAC/Amps just get one with a high dynamic range and 90+ SINAD

i should find the objective measurements or "level cap" of audio gear and include that aswell

>Use ASR or diyaudioheaven instead

thanks for this, audio science looks good. psychoacoustics is something im interested in

>>106477695
>Audeze sells basically everything but the drivers or the housing

audeze looks like it has a really good sound signature for my preferences, though i feel like if i get something more relaxed i might aswell go for something in the 600 series. idk

>>106478313
>audeze looks like it has a really good sound signature for my preferences, though i feel like if i get something more relaxed i might aswell go for something in the 600 series. idk
If relaxed is what you want then Aune AR5000 is a better headphone than the HD6X0 models but granted, the Sennheisers are modular. You can take them apart without even a screwdriver. I saw some anon paint a Nanachi on theirs kek. I always wanted to do something like that but I'm too lazy to bother with painting something that doesn't look like shit. If you don't mind basically no subbass then Sennies are fine. Just get HD6XX or 600. 650 is basically a more expensive 650 and 660 is just a worse headphone. If you want a linear bass extension then planars are better. Even some electrostats can reach that but most don't seal well enough.

>>106478406
>650 is basically a more expensive 650
I meant HD650 is just a more expensive 6XX

HE-R9 is making me wish I had a MDR-R10 20 years ago...

>>106478451
aren't modern biodynas pretty close?

>>106478460
If I was sent back in time 20 years I'd try to build my setup in a cave with a box of scraps

>>106478469
weird post but ok

>>106478471
brb whittling a pair of R10 earcups

>>106478510
I understand now

SOMEONE MAKE A NEW THREAD FFS

>>106478521
That Sony engineer was onto something. The earcups have a reverb that emphasizes the song's positioning details. It should've been copied a long time ago.

>>106478634
the thought makes me nervous, sorry
plus I'll get tons of false (You)s from people quoting the OP looking for a recommendation

>>106478639
doesn't Sony's current biodyna flagship have a similar if less extreme bulge?

welp see you guys when another thread pops up in god knows how loong

>>106478689
goodbye

>>106478634
Well, since you asked. New thread should be up in 5 minutes.

new thread: >>106478735