Thread 17922654

How were iberians so easily conquered and raped for 800 years by a handful of moors?

>>17922654 (OP)
If you were a tiny bit of intelligent you would see that all of Europe have subsaharan or north-african DNA (including scandinavia) using your maps.

HOw do you explain "Northafrican" DNA in southern Scandinavia?? It was the moors or is it you that are stupid?

>>17922671
why do you immediately deflect and drag all other europeans into being mutts when the map clearly shows that the only place with substantial african admixture is the peninsula that was conquered by africans for 800 years?

>>17922654 (OP)
Iberian women killed their husbands in their sleep and opened the gates of their cities after they saw all these veiny BBCs.

>>17922805
North African != Black
Try again, fetishist.

>>17922924
the moors unironically brought black africans into iberia, and yes, they bred iberian women turning the genepool into negroid mongrels

>>17922654 (OP)
i didnt know people living 50km east of moscow had subsaharan ancestry, very informative maps!

>>17922654 (OP)
Moors were technologically superior, they had gunpowder and cannons while visigoths were unironic mudhut dwelling snowniggers

after the main visigoth army got defeated there was basically no real defense force left.

>>17922690
answer the question, anon

>>17923004
your question is retarded, african and middle eastern admixture is present at around 30% only in the iberian peninsula not to mention that the admixture pulses have been dated to Al-Andalus
Iberians are nonwhite african rapebabies with negroid admixture

>>17922654 (OP)
it was the jews

>>17922986
Doesn't help that a shit ton of nobles died in infighting and executions in the many decades of pointless strife leading up to the invasion.

Because in reality it was more like 400 years, and they were thousands of Moors, not just a handful.

>>17923070
Again with the lies. It depends on who makes the studies. Here you can see in other study that most Europeans have subsaharan DNA, even Sweden is on par with Iberia.

So, the conclussion is clear, it is not northafrican or subsaharan but ANCIENT basal DNA that dna companies can´t differenciate and make a mixture and label it as northafrican or subsaharan because they also have basal DNA.

>>17924034
Danish people 0.30 NorthAfrican vs Spanish Valencia 0.31
Swedish 0.55 Subsaharan vs Spanish castilla la mancha 0.29

Explain>>17923070

>>17922654 (OP)
Because they were a disorganized feudal kingdom facing the largest war machine of it's time and subsequently fought each other just as often as the Muslims.

>>17922654 (OP)
It's simple, they weren't.
>>17924034
>>17923070
Both retarded and outdated slop

>>17922654 (OP)
They were not conquered by moors. This is a lying cope by poors. It was conquered by arabs that came from all over the arab world. Not moors. Moors were actually kicked out by arabs from Iberia and they all got together in what is known now as Morocco. There were white arabs too.

/his/ is trash and should just be deleted at this point desu

>>17922654 (OP)
Because they were ruled by backward germanic barbarians (visigoths) and one of those treasonous barbarians even invited the Moors to invade the country

>>17923070
Why is this bad? It means that Spaniards on average are more athletic and have a bigger penis than you

>>17924279
>athletic
spaniards are swarthy manlets with tiny cocks, also nigger admixture is inferior

>>17924426

Spaniards formed a bigger country than Russia. Spanish is the second most spoken European language in the world. None of what you're saying backed by truth. You're just a coping faggot lol

>>17922654 (OP)
Iberian women can't resist the BBC, the thought of thick potent black semen flooding their white wombs just drive them crazy.

>>17924865
BBC BBC another cope. Black men need to stop preying on underage women. Shit is sickening

>>17922654 (OP)
Iberian women got mind broken, and turned into drooling little mess after getting impailing on thick veiny black cocks, feeling the BBCs shoot strong potent loads after load after load of their creamy virile cum their strong black sperm racing towards their eggs killing any white sperm left by their husbands on their way to fertilising their wombs.

As I white woman, I wish I was in their place.

>>17922654 (OP)
Iberogods still occupy nafri quadroons to this day in morocco

>>17924837
>we wuz kangz n shiet
those negroid genes are acting up, paco

>>17923070
according to that study spaniards are only 6% north african on average

You will never be Canadian.
You will always be a muslim immigrant.
Yo will alway be a raghead.

>>17925244
and 1-3% yoruba. not a single iberian is white according to one drop rule.

>>17925403
>>17923070
>>17922654 (OP)
nope, the study models iberians as less than 1% yoruba and 6% nafri on average, you costa rican mutant tranny

and iberians are on average 4% moorish e-m81, if you want to see actual rapebabies you should look no further than taking a look at a mirror, where almost 100% of the mtdna of costa rica is native american and african and the majority of the ydna is iberian

>>17925421
the study models iberians as 6% nafri on average, i understand math is really hard for costa rican rapebaby troons
ibs is the iberian average, no it's not outdated and no it's not lower in NA ancestry than western iberians because of the basques

>>17925457
you wish it was just north african. you're a literal nig rapebaby.

>>17925468
look at the chart >>17925457 retarded costa rican mongrel, or is that too hard for actual rapebabies? your grandfather was an iberian
the average iberian is only around 5% moor

>>17925410
he's greek

>>17925495
no he's not, he and another american larp as italian or greek because they hope iberians counterattack italians and greeks

iberians are mindbroken rapebabies, moors really did a number on them

>>17925506
It's hilarious how fucking demoralized they've gotten by a couple of autists on vpns lmao

Being 1-3% anything is basically negligible. This is like when they say that Sicilians are half Arab or whatever because the Saracens ruled over them and then you go look the 23andme of Sicilians and they usually range from 1 to 6% arab

>>17925536
Meant for >>17925403

>>17925528
>>17925506
uh? you wasted years spamming anti iberian threads here

>>17925536
The thing is that iberians are 1-3% sub saharan with additional nafri and arab admixture, in total around a third of their genome is nonwhite

>>17925543
I'm not a spammer, you just admitted you have spent years seething at their baits

>>17925545
>The thing is that iberians are 1-3% sub saharan
that is objectively not true >>17925457

>, in total around a third of their genome is nonwhite
"non white" doesn't mean anything, costaricanbro, iberians are only 5% moor on average >>17925457

>>17925548
you definitely are the spammer damagecontrolling, the anti iberian spammer is known to make light of the situation when exposed
you are wrong and you lost

>>17925553
the average varies by study, your pic shows they do in fact have sub saharan admixture:
>estimated that some Southern Europeans have inherited 1%–3% sub-Saharan ancestry (approximately 3.2% in Portugal, 2.9% in Sardinia, 2.7% in southern Italy, 2.4% in Spain and 1.1% in northern Italy)
>"non white" doesn't mean anything
it clearly does to you hence why you're seething

>>17925570
>the average varies by study
the average is always around 5%

>estimated that some Southern Europeans have inherited 1%–3% sub-Saharan ancestry (approximately 3.2% in Portugal, 2.9% in Sardinia, 2.7% in southern Italy, 2.4% in Spain and 1.1% in northern Italy)
this is an extremely outdated estimation from 2010, this is another good modern updated study, see how iberians have 3% north african ancestry on average

>it clearly does to you hence why you're seething
no costaricantranny, "white" doesn't mean anything, what matters is the truth iberians objectively has low percentage of moorish admixture
you lost the argument

>>17925610
>Hernandez et al. (2020) identified 11.17±1.87% North African ancestry in southern Portuguese samples (from a population similar to modern northern Moroccans and Algerians), 9.28±1.79% of such ancestry in western Andalusians, and an average of 1.41±0.72% sub-Saharan ancestry in southern Iberians (using Yoruba as a proxy source). Substantially lower levels of North African admixture were further detected in Northern Italians (0.77%) and Tuscans (1%)
>Bycroft et al. (2019) identified regionally varying fractions of Northwest African ancestry in modern Iberians, ranging from 0–12%. This ancestry was found to be from a source population similar to modern Northwest Africans. The admixture was dated to 860–1120 CE, associated with the Muslim conquest and subsequent Reconquista. The highest levels of Northwest African admixture were identified in western Iberia whilst the lowest levels were found in the Basque region and an area in the North East roughly corresponding to the 14th-century Crown of Aragon. They also found some evidence for a second admixture event in Portuguese and Southern Spanish groups involving a second North African population within which a small sub-Saharan African component was detected. This admixture event was dated to approximately 1300 CE.
>Lazarids et al. (2014) detected 12.6±2% North African ancestry and an average of 1.5±0.2% sub-Saharan ancestry in the Spanish population.
you have nigger admixture. end of history. yes, you can make a meme G25 model where taforalt swallows it all, but it's because taforalt was nigger admixed in the first place. iberians are double niggers.

>>17925610
>the average is always around 5%
it's actually around 12.6%, see pic related, most studies put the north african admixture around there
>this is another good modern updated study
that's a study focusing on basques, aka the only iberians that weren't buckbroken by moors
>"white" doesn't mean anything
white is what you're not juan

>>17925637
>Hernandez et al. (2020) identified 11.17±1.87% North African ancestry in southern Portuguese samples (from a population similar to modern northern Moroccans and Algerians), 9.28±1.79% of such ancestry in western Andalusians, and an average of 1.41±0.72% sub-Saharan ancestry in southern Iberians (using Yoruba as a proxy source). Substantially lower levels of North African admixture were further detected in Northern Italians (0.77%) and Tuscans (1%)
this is the study in question >>17925457 6% north african ancestry on average
>Bycroft et al. (2019) identified regionally varying fractions of Northwest African ancestry in modern Iberians, ranging from 0–12%.
and what's the average of 0 to 12%, it's 6%

>you have nigger admixture. end of history. yes, you can make a meme G25 model where taforalt swallows it all, but it's because taforalt was nigger admixed in the first place. iberians are double niggers.

>17925664
>it's actually around 12.6%,
outdated from 2014
>most studies put the north african admixture around there
this is a lie, see here >>17925610, here >>17925457 or pic rel, why is the costa rican always lying? all studies put the nafri ancestry at 3 to 6% on average
>that's a study focusing on basques, aka the only iberians that weren't buckbroken by moors
irrelevant, lazaridis et al 2014 doesn't focus on iberians at all, all iberians are modeled, the study is updated and perfectly valid
>white is what you're not juan
okay? white is irrelevant

>>17925637
>Hernandez et al. (2020) identified 11.17±1.87% North African ancestry in southern Portuguese samples (from a population similar to modern northern Moroccans and Algerians), 9.28±1.79% of such ancestry in western Andalusians, and an average of 1.41±0.72% sub-Saharan ancestry in southern Iberians (using Yoruba as a proxy source). Substantially lower levels of North African admixture were further detected in Northern Italians (0.77%) and Tuscans (1%)
this is the study in question >>17925457 (You) 6% north african ancestry on average
>Bycroft et al. (2019) identified regionally varying fractions of Northwest African ancestry in modern Iberians, ranging from 0–12%.
and what's the average of 0 to 12%, it's 6%

>you have nigger admixture. end of history. yes, you can make a meme G25 model where taforalt swallows it all, but it's because taforalt was nigger admixed in the first place. iberians are double niggers.
iberians have very low north african ancestry, this is proven by all studies

17925664
>it's actually around 12.6%,
outdated from 2014
>most studies put the north african admixture around there
this is a lie, see here >>17925610 (You), here >>17925457 (You) or pic rel, why is the costa rican always lying? all studies put the nafri ancestry at 3 to 6% on average
>that's a study focusing on basques, aka the only iberians that weren't buckbroken by moors
irrelevant, lazaridis et al 2014 doesn't focus on iberians at all, all iberians are modeled, the study is updated and perfectly valid
>white is what you're not juan
okay? white is irrelevant

>>17925682
pic rel, the other study in question, that shows NA ancestry at 5% on average

>>17925664
lazaridis 2014 is from before qpadm existed (it was introduced in 2015)

>>17925689
andrei dna modeled spaniggas as being 6% ibm on average

>>17925693
youtube video therefore irrelevant

daily reminder:

Hernandez et al. (2020) models the average iberian (IBS) as 6% north african >>17925457
the study is new, updated, the IBS average is a perfectly valid updated average

Bycroft et al. (2019) models the average iberian as 5% north african >>17925686
again, perfectly updated valid study

Andre-Flores Bello (2021) models the average iberian as 3% north african >>17925610
the study is new, updated and models all iberians


lazaridis et al 2014 is an outdated study from before qpadm was even around
so it's incorrect to say "most studies put the north african admixture around there", most study put the north african admixture around 3 to 6% on average

>>17925682
>this is the study in question >>17925457 # (You) 6% north african ancestry on average
IBS doesn't include portugal, which is the most nafri-admixed country in europe (they also have the highest sub saharan admixture), meaning it's skewing the results, not to mention that every area they tested ib that study scored higher than 6%, so yeah the average is closer to 12%, not to mention that all studies show that iberians all have some level of sub saharan and middle eastern admixture
>all studies put the nafri ancestry at 3 to 6% on average
literally just pointed out multiple studies that prove you wrong yet here you are chimping out over being 12% nafri
also that study >>17925610 is not even supposed to be representative of modern populations lol
tl;dr; you're 12% nafri because moor buckbroke you for 8 centuries, oh and you're also a negroid mutt lmao

>>17925723
also you can test that the average is closer (or higher) than 12% with vahaduo

>>17925704
nobody disputes the moortuguese being brown moor rapebabies but where you are hiding behind "averages" when they include basques and the less raped parts of spain together.

>>17925723
> not to mention that every area they tested ib that study scored higher than 6%
yes because they tested the west and south that are the highest in nafri ancestry, the average is 6%, so yeah no, the average is 6% and not 12%
> not to mention that all studies show that iberians all have some level of sub saharan and middle eastern admixture
abysmally low sub saharan, and middle eastern ancestry is fine, not moorish
>literally just pointed out multiple studies that prove you wrong yet here you are chimping out over being 12% nafri
you did not, stop lying, the only study supporting your claim is the outdated 2014 lazaridis study
see here >>17925704
Hernandez et al. (2020) models the average iberian (IBS) as 6% north african >>17925457
Bycroft et al. (2019) models the average iberian as 5% north african >>17925686
Andre-Flores Bello (2021) models the average iberian as 3% north african >>17925610
>also that study >>17925610 is not even supposed to be representative of modern populations
yes it is, stop lying, you lost the argument, that study is using modern populations and modeling those populations with appropriate populations, it's a perfectly valid modern study, not my problem that you don't like ti

>tl;dr; you're 12% nafri because moor buckbroke you for 8 centuries, oh and you're also a negroid mutt lmao
iberians are 6% nafri on average, see here >>17925704

>>17925728
>but where you are hiding behind "averages" when they include basques and the less raped parts of spain together.
the basques only make up a tiny representative percentage of the IBS average, the average iberian is only 6% north african, see here why >>17925686 most spanairds outside of the extreme west don't even reach 10% nafri ancestry

>>17925735
>>17925738
>sicilians are not brown because venetians exist

>>17925735
>yes because they tested the west and south that are the highest in nafri ancestry
so? they also tested basques which barely have nafri ancestry, also do you think west and south iberians are less iberian for having more nafri ancestry? no wonder your shithole is all divided, you faggots all hate each other for being slightly browner but at the end, you're all brown mutts with 12% nafri admixture, 12% arab admixture and 3% black admixture
you completely skipped over the fact that IBS doesn't include moortugal btw

>>17925741
pretty much any european is a hyperborean aryan compared to iberians, who would literally be considered negroes just a century ago

>>17925726
not really

>>17925744
>so? they also tested basques which barely have nafri ancestry
they didn't just test basques, they tested non basque too, here are the results >>17925610 on average iberians are 3% nafri according to this good updated perfect study
>also do you think west and south iberians are less iberian for having more nafri ancestry?
no, do costa ricans don't understand that stating the truth (that iberians are 3 to 6% nafri on average according to most studies) is valuable in and of itself?
>with 12% nafri admixture, 12% arab admixture and 3% black admixture
the average is very different, see >>17925704

>>17925748
We wuz hyperborean aryans without Iberians and shiieet. It was us niggaz with whitey blonde blue eyed aryan bhenchods being Latins, masta.

>>17925758
Why are you arguing with a race-baiting black fetishist American? Do something productive; the other guy is beyond saving.

>>17925755
now add a sub saharan and a middle eastern column and the lower percentages will even out with the rest, showing that iberians are ~25% non-european on average like so many studies have shown time and time again
>>17925758
>they tested non basque too
barely so, they had like 2-3 samples per non-basque region because those were the only ones without african admixture they could find because the objective of the study was to reconstruct the genetic landscape of iberia in the iron age, it's not supposed to be representative of modern iberians because pretty much all of them are moor rapebabies now
and since you completely skipped over the fact that IBS doesn't include moortugal I'm guessing you're a literal moortuguese nigger mongrel who's eternally assblasted over being a moor rapebaby

>>17925775
>>17925780
You're brown and look like this

>>17922654 (OP)
800 years is way too much, at that point they wanted it

>>17925789
herrr derp dis u jus trus me -> >:(

>>17925789
>zero nafri or black admixture seeeniooor

>>17925782
>now add a sub saharan and a middle eastern column and the lower percentages will even out with the rest, showing that iberians are ~25% non-european on average like so many studies have shown time and time again
sub saharan is noise level, no problem with middle eastern ancestry
overall iberians are 6% north african on average see here these studies are all 100% good, modern and representative >>17925704
>barely so, they had like 2-3 samples per non-basque region because those were the only ones without african admixture they could find because the objective of the study was to reconstruct the genetic landscape of iberia in the iron age, it's not supposed to be representative of modern iberians because pretty much all of them are moor rapebabies now
this is incorrect, the study models modern iberians using representative samples from the IBS, (and no, before you post it the dendogram clusters have nothing to do with the qpadm models here >>17925610)
the study uses a bigger sample size than lazaridis et al 2014, that you can see in pic related
it's supposed to be representative and is in fact perfectly representative, stop coping
>and since you completely skipped over the fact that IBS doesn't include moortugal I'm guessing you're a literal moortuguese
not really

>>17925782
see the nafri orange component, it average as 5% in the "spa" average, incredible how low the nafri ancestry among iberians is

>>17925782
You're generalizing too much. Not only that you fail to recognize that Iberians speak a European language. Most have European customs that they came up with on their own that influenced Europe and are literally part of a huge country directly in Europe. Most Spaniards are European. You are not European. Yea Spaniards & Meds have tons and tons of babies all over the world from Asian to ME to NI to White to Eurasian so cherrypick pointless shit all day if you want. It's futile

>>17925802
>>17925804
southern/northwestern spain and moortugal is absolutely brown and you're coping. impressive how even the asturians are brown.

>>17925802
see pic related, in the iberian sample populations they used much more basque samples than non basque samples, because pure non-basques are basically nonexistent (some non-basque regions literally only have 1 sample lmao)
The objective of the study was to recreate basque genetics during the iron age, hence why the name of the study is "Genetic origins, singularity, and heterogeneity of Basques", posting a study whose entire focus is basque ancient genetics and trying to pass it as a representation of average modern iberians is something only an insecure moor rapebaby like you would do

>>17925410
More like 40%
>The frequency of haplotype 5 at the Y-chromosome-specific DNA polymorphism (p49/TaqI) was reported in a study of 487 males originating from five different geographic locations in Iberia and North Africa. The highest frequency of haplotype 5 (68.9%) was previously observed in Berbers from Morocco, and it has been established that this haplotype is a characteristic Berber haplotype in North Africa. The relative frequencies of haplotype 5 distribution show a geographical gradient of decreasing frequency according to latitude in Iberia: 40.8% in Andalusia, 36.2% in Portugal, 12.1% in Catalonia, and 11.3% in the Basque Country; such a cline of decreasing frequency of haplotype 5 from the south to the north in Iberia clearly establishes a gene flow from North Africa towards Iberia.

>>17925824
he's literally trying to pass a study that recreated ancient iberian genetics as """proof""" that iberians aren't moor rapebabies, probably because he's fucking retarded and can't understand genetic studies, but it would be like me claiming that japanese are 100% jomon and posting the left chart in pic related as proof while completely ignoring the chart on the right which actually represents modern japanese, that's how retarded these moor rapebabies are

>>17925840
700 years of rape sure did a number on Iberians, no wonder they're so brown.

>>17925824
brown doesn't mean anything
the model could be better

>>17925832
> they used much more basque samples than non basque samples,
irrelevant, the basques were separated from the non basques, overall the non basque score low levels of north african ancestry
>The objective of the study was to recreate basque genetics during the iron age, hence why the name of the study is "Genetic origins, singularity, and heterogeneity of Basques", posting a study whose entire focus is basque ancient genetics
no that's irrelevant to the model here >>17925610, regardless of the focus of the study the study also provides a model for non basque iberians to show the impact of population movements on all of iberia, that's why the figure 4 is titled "Modeling potential post-Iron Age gene flow in the Iberian Peninsula"
>and trying to pass it as a representation of average modern iberians is something only an insecure moor rapebaby like you would do
nope, it's a valid modern study, you are insecure if you don't like it

also, as i said, the dendogram you're posting is irrelevant to the qpadm model, the clusters for the dendogram like "gSpanish2" are not used in the qpadm model, that instead separates the samples by region
also you didn't circle all the samples, overall, the samples are more than the ones used here >>17925802 in the outdated lazaridis et al 2014

>>17925846
You're generalizing too much. Not only that you fail to recognize that Iberians speak a European language. Most have European customs that they came up with on their own that influenced Europe and are literally part of a huge country directly in Europe. Most Spaniards are European. You are not European. Yea Spaniards & Meds have tons and tons of babies all over the world from Asian to ME to NI to White to Eurasian so cherrypick pointless shit all day if you want. It's futile

>>17925840
this is an extremely outdated study before isogg or snps were even used
The Lucotte study used the p49/TaqI polymorphism to define haplotype V. This marker, from early Y-DNA research, lacks the resolution of modern SNP-based haplogroup typing
Modern studies use high-resolution SNP panels and STR markers, providing more precise haplogroup assignments
An SNP is a single base-pair substitution at a specific genomic position, identified directly through sequencing or targeted assays. Modern Y-DNA haplogroup studies rely on SNPs (e.g., M81 for E-M81) because they’re stable, binary, and phylogenetically informative. RFLPs like p49/TaqI, used in the 1990s and early 2000s, capture broader sequence variations but are less precise, as they may reflect multiple underlying mutations or structural changes, not just a single nucleotide change. This can lead to ambiguous or overlapping haplotype definitions.

here a modern study, iberians are only 4% e-m81

>>17925846
why do you reply to yourself? insecure costa rican loser

>>17925822
>Not only that you fail to recognize that Iberians speak a European language
Their language is mongrelized with arab just like their genetics, culture, music, cuisine, history, etc
But whenever you point out the obvious, you get AT LEAST 2-3 seething brown spicniards denying their african genes and saving da white race o algo , no gives a shit about your pathetic mongrel complexes juan, you retarded moor rapebaby, but this is a history board and we only state objective historical facts here, if you don't like it you can fuck off to whatever spic shithole internet forum you crawled out of

>>17925843
>he's literally trying to pass a study that recreated ancient iberian genetics as """proof""" that iberians aren't moor rapebabies
the study offers a perfectly valid model of iberian genetics from all of iberia
> probably because he's fucking retarded and can't understand genetic studies
it's actually you that doesn't understand genetic studies

>but it would be like me claiming that japanese are 100% jomon and posting the left chart in pic related as proof while completely ignoring the chart on the right which actually represents modern japanese, that's how retarded these moor rapebabies are
that's an incredibly retarded apples and oranges comparison, the jomon/yayoi/kofun samples on the left are ancient samples, not modern japanese
the MODERN samples from this incredibly perfect and representative and modern study >>17925610 are indeed, MODERN iberians, so representative of MODERN iberians
this is literally the stupidest comparison ever made

>>17925859
why are you replying to yourself?

your comparison is absolutely retarded, i explain that here >>17925860
learn the difference between modern and ancient samples
the andre bello study is perfectly representative of modern iberians, whether you like it or not

>But whenever you point out the obvious, you get AT LEAST 2-3 seething brown spicniards denying their african genes and saving da white race o algo , no gives a shit about your pathetic mongrel complexes juan, you retarded moor rapebaby, but this is a history board and we only state objective historical facts here, if you don't like it you can fuck off to whatever spic shithole internet forum you crawled out of
the white race is irrelevant, retarded costa rican mutant, correcting your lies isn't "saving the white race"

>>17925860
yeah they used modern samples but that doesn't mean it's an accurate representation of the modern genepool, you retarded niggertuguese moor rapebaby

I'm pretty sure you can find some unmixed native americans in the USA today and have 2-3 samples per region to reconstruct the genepool of the USA prior to the arrival of europeans, but would that be an accurate representation of the actual genepool? No, it wouldn't, dumbass moortuguese monkey

>>17925840
crazy how black iberians are i think even Turks are whiter than these quadroons.

>>17925863
>why are you replying to yourself?
you're replying to multiple people ITT, dumbass schizophrenic moor mongrel

>>17925865
>yeah they used modern samples but that doesn't mean it's an accurate representation of the modern genepool, you retarded niggertuguese moor rapebaby
yes it does, it uses more samples than the outdated lazaridis et al 2014, it's accurate and representative and your comparison is retarded
>I'm pretty sure you can find some unmixed native americans in the USA today and have 2-3 samples per region to reconstruct the genepool of the USA prior to the arrival of europeans, but would that be an accurate representation of the actual genepool? No, it wouldn't, dumbass moortuguese monkey
there is no source in the study that claim ed they "cherrypicked unadmixed samples", stop lying
they are perfectly representative samples

>>17925866
stop replying to yourself, i explained to you why that extremely outdated study from before even isogg was around that doesn't even use snp resolution is wrong >>17925856
all studies, not even modern, just after the adoption of high resolution snps show iberians have low e-m81

>>17925866
Even Basques were raped in mass, GRIM

>The only other haplogroup that exhibits frequencies in double digits in two of the three Basque provinces examined is E-V65 (Alava, 17.3% and Vizcaya, 10.9%). E-V65 is of Northern African origin and could have dispersed into Iberia across the Mediterranean at various times since its origin approximately 4300 years ago.

>>17925866
if turks aren't white, neither are iberians and anyone that isn't an assblasted spicberian would find this completely reasonable

>>17925867
nope, i'm not replying to multiple people, i'm replying to the same person, the (you) in your pic can be easily edited out

>>17925874
>stop replying to yourself
>it's not even my post
you're so shit at discerning multiple people through posts, another sign you're a low IQ retard, I'm literally the most objective poster ITT and the other ones are just clowning you for being a moor rapebaby because deep down, you know you are, this is why spicberians will keep getting trolled which will ironically spread the word even further that you're african rapebabies

>>17925873
white is irrelevant, if you want to consider turks white and iberians brown you can just do that, but stop replying to yourself for a moment and look here >>17925856 the study is garbage and extremely outdated, iberians only have 4% e-m81 on average

also look at pic rel, it analyzes the haplogroups of granada, almeria and malaga and iberians are only 5% e-m81 on average there

Did you know that the Irish are descended from Roman-period Iberians who moved to England? The Irish is how all Iberians used to look before the Moorish conquest of Iberia and the mass rape that followed it.

>They are Gaels who sail to Ireland from Iberia (Hispania) after spending hundreds of years travelling the Earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milesians_(Irish)

>>17925883
>you're so shit at discerning multiple people through posts, another sign you're a low IQ retard, I'm literally the most objective poster ITT and the other ones are just clowning you for being a moor rapebaby because deep down, you know you are, this is why spicberians will keep getting trolled which will ironically spread the word even further that you're african rapebabies
nope i'm speaking with the same person, posting these screens is pointless since they can be easily edited, you have no objectivity and i debunked any single one of your claims, you are retarded as fuck, always with the same posts about "insecurity", you speak like a woman, no correcting your lies isn't insecurity

iberians have low e-m81 so not african rapebabies, start being objective for once

>>17925873
The 40% E-M81 rape genes are obvious in these brown rapemeat

>>17925859
Spanish is a European romance language (indo-european). Arabs don't understand Spanish. Spaniards don't understand Arabic. "Oh but Europeans use an Arabic numeral system because they were raped by Arabs" Do you not see how ridiculous you sound to us all? Spaniards went and had babies all over the world (Asians, NIA, Whites, ME) so you will find part Spaniards/Meds everywhere. We don't "save da white race o algo" we were called White our whole lives even when we didn't want to be. Still why spend your life crying about this? What do you have against Iberians or Spaniards that makes you cry so much and fantasize about them being raped by Muslim Moroccans, wacko?

>>17922654 (OP)
How much non-white do Iberian have?

>>17922654 (OP)
Christian Kingdoms infighting all the goddamn time when a uniting King died

>>17925889
I just know for a fact you're a low IQ retard by the way you write lmao, now you're gonna get trolled by like 10+ people that take turns in farming easy replies from seething moor rapebabies like you
the fact of the matter is that you're a nafri rapebaby with negroid and arab genes and no amount of coping will change that

>>17925903
Around 30% but your must keep in mind that Swedish ancestry also contains some non-White DNA as well.

Target: Spanish_Alacant
Distance: 6.2255% / 0.06225548
73.4 Swedish
15.6 Saudi
11.0 Moroccan

Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 6.1681% / 0.06168141
71.0 Swedish
15.6 Saudi
13.4 Moroccan

>>17925908
>I just know for a fact you're a low IQ retard by the way you write lmao, now you're gonna get trolled by like 10+ people that take turns in farming easy replies from seething moor rapebabies like you
not really i'm speaking with the same person and this >>17925893 is you replying to yourself too
you lost the argument so you're trying to flood the thread with shitposts to make your Ls less visible, you always do this, i know you as a poster, when you lose the argument you start talking about "insecurity" and people "just trolling iberians", spare me that nonsense
you lost the argument and you're samefagging


>the fact of the matter is that you're a nafri rapebaby with negroid and arab genes and no amount of coping will change that
the fact of the matter is that is that iberians are on average 3 to 6% north african >>17925704 and nothing will change that

>>17925913
Swedes show no negroid traits unlike Iberians so I very much doubt it.

>>17925896
>Spanish is a European romance language
with the most arab loanwords out of any european language, guess why that is?
>What do you have against Iberians or Spaniards that makes you cry so much and fantasize about them being raped by Muslim Moroccans, wacko?
It's not a fantasy when it's a historical fact, also why is it that whenever anything slightly related to your african admixture/culture or history is mentioned, you chimp out like a retard with an obvious mongrel complex? the answer is simple, you hate yourself for getting conquered by moors for 800 years so you lash out at others whenever this completely common historical occurrence is mentioned, you don't chimp out when someone mentions you got conquered by romans, nope, only when it's nafris, because you're a mindbroken spic mongrel buckbroken by european racialist ideas, you're extremely afraid of everyone knowing you're not a pure blooded european n shiet and it shows, because again, you hate yourself for being a nafri rapebaby
stop shitting up the board whenever anything related to Al-Andalus is posted or fuck off

>>17925916
you've missed me 3 times now, and it's pathetic how you have to convince yourself it's only one person pointing out you're a delusional moor rapebaby lol, yeah sure, it's definitely not everyone catching on to your retarded mongrel complex delusions

>>17925933
>you've missed me 3 times now, and it's pathetic how you have to convince yourself it's only one person pointing out you're a delusional moor rapebaby lol, yeah sure, it's definitely not everyone catching on to your retarded mongrel complex delusions
no i didn't miss you, you are the same person, posting these screenshots is irrelevant as they can be easily edited, again

you are samefagging, and no there's no delusion or insecurity or whatever other female buzzword, correcting your lies is not insecurity

>>17925923
Just checked, nvmd you're right

Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 5.5989% / 0.05598854
72.6 Norwegian
14.4 Saudi
13.0 Moroccan

Target: Spanish_Alacant
Distance: 5.5861% / 0.05586054
75.2 Norwegian
14.4 Saudi
10.4 Moroccan

Target: Swedish
Distance: 1.5636% / 0.01563554
100.0 Norwegian
0.0 Moroccan
0.0 Saudi

>>17925926
>mongrel complex
>>17925933
>mongrel complex
hi dude

>>17925940
yes, those two are obviously both me, you're not as retarded as I thought

>>17925956
remember to not repost the same study that doesn't agree with you, you posted it here already >>17923070

>>17925926
>with the most arab loanwords out of any european language, guess why that is?

What loan words? Some archaic words that no one uses? Algebra?? Spanish is intelligible to Arabs.

> It's not a fantasy when it's a historical fact, also why is it that whenever anything slightly related to your african admixture/culture or history is mentioned, you chimp out like a retard with an obvious mongrel complex? the answer is simple, you hate yourself for getting conquered by moors for 800 years so you lash out at others whenever this completely common historical occurrence is mentioned, you don't chimp out when someone mentions you got conquered by romans, nope, only when it's nafris, because you're a mindbroken spic mongrel buckbroken by european racialist ideas, you're extremely afraid of everyone knowing you're not a pure blooded european n shiet and it shows, because again, you hate yourself for being a nafri rapebaby
stop shitting up the board whenever anything related to Al-Andalus is posted or fuck off

What historical facts ? You want me to claim to be Moroccan or African when no one related to me are these things? No one in my family has an African name or Moroccan and I don't have Moroccan in my DNA. You claim 800 years of being conquered but this is nothing compared to the years of defending against these Moors and keeping them out from destroying everything. There was no conquering from Romans when we are derived from Romans. "but you're so dumb you seee". Buckbroken by Europeans is dumb because all my life I was called European/White. It's all on paper. There are no pure blooded Europeans anywhere. We are Europeans. No one calls me a Nafri lol, Africans don't call me black. Maybe now they wish they could. Idk. Face reality and go back to the sewage you came from and fuck off with your bullshit.

>>17925967
>all of that spicniard rambling and coping
this is exactly what I mean
you're a negroid rapebaby btw

>>17925967
You're a nafri baboon

t. Russian

>>17925971
not him but this is an extremely outdated study from 2010, why do you repost the same things over and over again?
you posted that here >>17925570 and it was explained to you here >>17925610 that is outdated

>>17925971
They are more than 20% black if you count their Moorish admixture.
>We have shown that recent North African ancestry is highest in southwestern Europe and decreases in northern latitudes, with a sharp difference between the Iberian Peninsula and France, where Basques are less influenced by North Africa (as suggested in ref. 48). Our estimates of shared ancestry are much higher than previously reported (up to 20% of the European individuals’ genomes). ,

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms4584

>>17925972
Not a solid argument. And claiming to just be Russian makes you less credible. Keep coping haha. This is like me saying Russians are all Mongolian Asians. Face reality loser and stop spreading lies to people. And if you are Russian then speak Russian with Russians or fuck off. This isn't your forte at all commie.

>>17925992
stop replying to yourself, you linked the wrong study, this is the study in question, and it includes canarians, non canarian iberians on average, according to that study only have 5% north african ancestry on average

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1306223110

you literally can't be objective even for a second

>>17926002
what the study is actually saying:
>Southwestern European populations average between 4% and 20% of their genomes assigned to a North African ancestral cluster (SI Appendix, Fig. S3), whereas this value does not exceed 2% in southeastern European populations
where's the 5% figure, moor? 4% to 20% is 5%?

>>17925996
>>17926002

>>17925992
he's not russian, he's a costa rican >>17925410

>>17926020
>where's the 5% figure, moor? 4% to 20% is 5%?
again, you are retarded as always

the study includes canarians, see the "spa" here, and see the orange component, it's around 5%

>>17926035
no it's not. i don't see that figure anywhere. stop hiding behind basques and catalans, moor.

>>17926045
>no it's not
yes it is
>i don't see that figure anywhere. stop hiding behind basques and catalans, moor.
it's literally right there

you are not objective, also in your chart the average is still 5% moorish

>>17922654 (OP)
Jews opend the gates of Grenada

>>17926095
Iberians women did, then their opened legs for black males.

>>17926069
that's at least 7% using moortugal as reference and it does not specify which part of spain is it from

>>17926098
Source?

>>17926099
spa is from all spain and this average of all of spain is around 5% north african, why can't you be objective for once?

>>17926112
because you are pulling that out of your ass
>>17926108
spain and portugal have SSA y-dna
>Sub-Saharan Y-DNA lineages E3a, E1, BC*, (xE3), and E3* are found between 1 and 5% in Portugal, Valencia, Majorca, Cantabria, Málaga, Seville, and Galicia (Spain).
most BLACKED region of europe for sure

>>17926119
>what is rape

>>17926108
the wife of Roderic married a moor after he was killed in the battle of guadalete
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egilona

>>17926119
>because you are pulling that out of your ass
i'm not, spa is the average of all of spain
and looking at that chart it's around 5% north african (orange), you are never objective

>>17926108
>After the armies of the Africans (Afāriq) set foot in al-Andalus, they marched until they came before a mighty city, girded about with a wall of white stone and adorned with many towers.
>When the women of that city heard tidings that a host from afar had arrived, they climbed to the ramparts and gazed upon the strangers. They beheld the Africans, tall and broad of frame, and they marveled greatly, for the men were unclothed, and their nakedness, with their large penises like that donkeys and testicles like that of elephants, was displayed before all.
>At this sight their loins were enflamed with desire, for their own husbands were stunted, both in body and in manhood. So they whispered counsel one to another and resolved to betray the Romans. They mingled henbane into their husbands’ food, and when the men had perished, the women cast aside their veils, loosed their robes, and went forth to unbar the gates for the Africans.
>And when the Africans entered, they took those women unto themselves, riding them without pause for a day and a night, until the women were spent. Thus was that city given over to the believers, the city known among the Romans (Rūm) as Cordoba (Qurṭubah).

Tarīḫ al Andalus by Aḥmad al Ḥimyarī

>>17926139
so it's a ridiculously small amount of samples from a very old study. nigga you're 6% TAFORALT on average: >>17925693 the ancient mulatto nafroid

>>17926133
>>17926147
Typical Christians.

>>17926147
OH NONONONONOOO AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

>>17926149
>so it's a ridiculously small amount of samples from a very old study.
it's a study you posted, a shame it doesn't agree with you

>nigga you're 6% TAFORALT on average: >>17925693
incorrect and that's an irrelevant youtube video

>>17926170
i'm not OP and this study is clearly superior: >>17926045
>incoming bullshit about how the "average" is super low o algo
don't care about your cope, multiple regions of spain are at above 10% and moortugal as a whole is 12%

>>17926206
>i'm not OP and this study is clearly superior: >>17926045
>don't care about your cope, multiple regions of spain are at above 10% and moortugal as a whole is 12%
you are OP, that study confirms what i said, that iberians are on average 6% nafri

>>17926147
Iberberian sisters... I don't feel so good...

>>17926217
there is no "average" for moorberia as a whole in that study, it separates it by region. atlantic iberberia is 12% nafri, southern 11%, west-central 9%, east central 6%, northeast 3.2% and basque country 0.12%

>>17926243
>there is no "average" for moorberia as a whole in that study, it separates it by region. atlantic iberberia is 12% nafri, southern 11%, west-central 9%, east central 6%, northeast 3.2% and basque country 0.12%
and the average is below 10% obviously and around 5-6%

This all sounds like someone is butthurt over Spaniards being historically great. Defamation at its best and bullshit at its core.

>>17926356
>waaaaah, if you notice my relentless anti iberian spam you are insecure

>>17926364

We're trying to help you. You're wrong in so many ways and you seem insecure yourself.

>>17923070
>admixture pulses have been dated to Al-Andalus
You made this part up

>>17926375
i'm not and you know it, stop lying and and start being objective

>>17926386
If you want some Iberian bull's cock just say it. It's a delicacy. Part of the Romance going on in Europe. You don't have to lose your mind

>>17925704
Those studies should be done to all Europeans since ALL Europeans can get "Northafrican", "NorthEast African". On Gedmatch k16 ALL Europeans get northafrican.

It is just BASAL DNA. Europeans came from the Middle East 10.000 years ago. More pure groups like Sardinians or Iberians (R1b >80%) can show ancient genetics much better.

And people still don´t see that northafricans 5000 years ago were white. They are mongrels now after 900 years of islam enslaving blacks. It is "Hannibal" type of northafrican.

>>17926147
Kek, imagine being so buck broken by the 1415 Portuguese conquest of Ceuta, where al-Himyari was born in the early 15th century, that the only thing you can do is writing copes about muh dik

>>17926536
>And people still don´t see that northafricans 5000 years ago were white. They are mongrels now after 900 years of islam enslaving blacks. It is "Hannibal" type of northafrican.
that's not even remotely true

>>17926567
Those are just distances. It does not talk about if they were 100% caucasoid or part negroid.

Hannibal was northafrican and looked 100% caucasoid. This is the "northafrican" that Iberians get.

>>17926597
>Those are just distances. It does not talk about if they were 100% caucasoid or part negroid.
oh yeah, i'm sure people that are similar to saharawis from the saharan deserts are 100000000000% hyperborean evropean nordics

>This is the "northafrican" that Iberians get.
no it's not, punics barely had north african genetics

>>17926612
>punics barely had north african genetics
Punics were northafricans...yet according to you did not get "northafrican" genetics. Iberians are not northafricans yet you claim they are 5% northafrican.

Punics were in SE Spain. No other northafrican civilization left a mark in Iberian history previous to the romans.

>>17926625
>Iberians are not northafricans yet you claim they are 5% northafrican
i claimed no such thing, stupid iberian negro, punics were not genetically north african and their ancestry wouldn't show up as north african
actual north africans were saharawi-like in the west and saudi-like in the east, aka not white and not european

>>17926133
They were Swedecucks, not Spainbvll

>>17926634
It's strange but not surprising that the upper classes of Iberia were often of northern European stock, from the visigoths to the french and Germans

>>17926632
>stupid iberian negro,
Says the nafri. I am as white as any other European (north, central or south).

There is something very emotional for you to continue attack Iberians. Your boyfriend left you without any notice? Did you fuck his ass too strong?

>>17926677
I'm obviously not a nafri, nafris were basically saharawis lol

>>17922654 (OP)
Half of those 800 years : the tributary emirate of granada

>>17922654 (OP)
A high ibd sharing means the admixture event happened more recently, it tells us nothing about the amount of ancestry from this population

>>17924837
>Spaniards formed a bigger country than Russia. Spanish is the second most spoken European
I think imperial Russia was bigger

>>17922654 (OP)
>>17923070
>>17925610
>>17925926
>>17926045

>muh moor
>muh white
pic related is how retarded your premise is, unless you want to claim only like 5% of present Europeans on earth are white.

Why are these threads never deleted by jannies? He's been spamming them for years. I get thread deleted for much less than that.

>>17926385
you're an insecure swarthy and hairy moor rapebaby manlet

>There is an axis of significant genetic differentiation along the east–west direction, in contrast to remarkable genetic similarity in the north–south direction. North African admixture, associated with the Islamic conquest, can be dated to the period between c. AD 860–1120

>To distinguish between possible scenarios that could produce these patterns, we applied the GLOBETROTTER method to each of our six clusters (Methods). GLOBETROTTER infers dates of admixture and the make-up of the source populations, and tests whether admixture patterns are consistent with a simple mixing of two groups at a single time in the past, compared to more complex alternative models. GLOBETROTTER found strong evidence (p<0.01) of admixture for all six clusters.

>For all six clusters, an extremely similar event was inferred, in a tight time-range of 860–1120 CE, and with similar source groups, present in varying proportions (4–10% for the minor group). The major source was inferred to contain almost exclusively European donor groups, and the minor source is made up of mainly north-west African donor groups, including Western Sahara, and to a lesser extent west Africans (YRI), consistent with the overall ancestry profiles.

>The ‘Portugal-Andalucia’ cluster shows the greatest YRI contribution, and also shows some evidence of a second admixture date, with a more recent event involving only sub-Saharan-African-like and European-like source groups. This indicates a recent pulse of sub-Saharan African DNA, independent of the north African component.

>>17926634
yep, only the modern mongrelized moor rapebabies could kick out their moor masters

>>17926924
it's much more than 5%, you insecure littlle swarthy spic, 5% is closer to your percentage of negroid genes, you're 12% nafri, 12% arab and 3% negroid, more than a fourth of your genome is non white and every single time anyone points that out, you chimp out like a nigger (probably because of your nigger genes) and not only that, you grasp at straws and start saying ridiculous shit like "ayo every europeen scores 20% nafri n shiet we wuz acshually the whitest nigguz in europe", no, you delusional moor mongrel, it's only you, you're the ones that were conquered by moors for 800 years and nobody else, get over your mongrel trauma and stop shitting up the board nigger

>>17927119
>the mongrel projecting
lol you're retarded, I'm not even Iberian, but you clearly exaggerate which destroys the credibility of your premise. Iberians are literally whiter than Italians, Greeks, Albanians and many other Europeans from a purely genetic perspective. This makes a lot of people seethe. You have mental illness from being a mutt and your project that on real Europeans. Sorry.

>>17927125
>iberians are whiter than... brown people
you are on a different cline of non-whiteness, juan, the negroid one, aka one drop rule is enough to make you non-white

>>17927425
iberians are closer to negroids than most greeks and italians

>>17927125
Greeks, Italians and Albanians are brown

>>17927503
Were the founders of Western civilization and the Renaissance brown?

>>17927447
Not according to this.

>>17927512
the founders of western civilizations were anglos during the colonial era and the industrial revolution, no one cares about your italo-iberian mud huts

>>17927553
Anglos have distant medi ancestry.

>>17927579
there's no continuity between an iron age greek in a mud hut and anglos conquering the known world in the 16th and 17th centuries
stop we wuzzing, italians and iberians are brown

>>17927593
ok mutt, stop trying to divide meds. Anglos are meds.We really need flag so we can see your amerimutt, indian or morrocan flag.

>>17926025
>>17926042
>>17926046
>>17926048
>>17926059
>>17926067
idc what haplojeets say, iberians are obviously not white, just look at these nafris

>>17927579
Ana de Armas looks like a cross between Amelia Warner and Jenna Coleman. Yet, some people still treat her as non-white.

>>17927735
she has sub-saharan admixture, she can't be white

>>17927744
Her parents and brother look white. Uruguay, Argentina, Brazil, and Cuba are the only Latinx countries that have truly white people, but the other "white" people in other latinx countries have up to 30% non-white genes and siblings who don't look white.

>>17927744
Yes mutt. They're just like you!

>>17927758
It's funny that the Meximutts use this ginger mutt as an example of a white Mexican. Argentina is predominantly non-white, but at least they have a real white population like Pope Francis or Milei.

What causes /his/'s Iberian derangement syndrome

>>17927553
There are different shades of whiteness; being slightly tanned is far more preferable than looking like a pale and pink monkey.

>>17927548
According to this Iberians (except Basques) do have more sub-saharan. I'd rather be a bit closer to Asians (as is the case with Germanics, again according to this pca) who actually have historical civilizations and accomplishments than to sub-saharans who have nothing of the sort.

>>17927852
ok but you're a mutt, why are you concerned with the affairs of Europeans?

>>17927852
you can expose iberberian mongrels with the taforalt and yoruba distance. they are not whiter than north italians by any means.

>>17927904
both are brown mongrels non europeans

>>17927786
There's only one shade of white, you are brown

>>17927904
>>17927912
>both are brown mongrels non europeans
Both of you are indians. stfu

>>17927852
Low IQ retard
Spaniards have north African admixture not SSA
Germanics have Siberian ooga booga hunter gatherer admixture
North Africans are civilizationally superior to these people
Also east asian admixture is far more foreign than north african

>>17927932
East asian admixture is Eurasian, nafris are the most useless sack of biowaste north of the Sahara

>>17927904
That's silly because Italians are going to be closer to levantines than Iberians are to any of these groups
Why are we pretending only african admixture is non european?
Also a swede is closer to a yoruba than a basque is. So the Swedes have nigger admixture and the basques don't?
That's silly
I love how all of you avoid to attack the Basques thinking they're all separatists when there are millions of Basques especially in Navarra and even the Basque country proper who would consider themselves unapologetically Spanish

>>17927938
>East asian admixture is Eurasian
And? It's still far more foreign than nafri admixture
Nafris are subhumans, bit less so than Siberian populations who are literally snow bantus with zero achievements

>>17927950
Nafris are far more inferior to mongoloids

fuck shitalians

>>17927948
levantines and arabs are also african-shifted. taforalt, natufian and SSA are all interchangeable genetic components.

>>17927758
>Cuba are the only Latinx countries that have truly white people
spaniards aren't white and Cubans all have black genes so she's technically a negress

>>17927932
If spaniards have north african then by extension they also have sub saharan because nafris are octoroons, you retarded moor, also iberians have a second, distinguishable pulse of sub saharan admixture so they directly mixed with negroids

>>17927976
Ana de armas is way wither that Elon musk and Charlize theron.

>>17927932
>Spaniards have north African admixture not SSA
Nope.

>Germanics have Siberian ooga booga hunter gatherer admixture
The same is true for Spaniards. All Europeans are heavily Mongoloid.

>North Africans are civilizationally superior to these people
We're not in the Antiquity/Medieval period anymore. Whites and East Asians are the most advanced on Earth making their ancestry more desirable/superior.

>Also east asian admixture is far more foreign than north african.
Sure but the Negroid admixture in North Africans is much more foreign than East Asian ancestry is.

>>17928003
she's a Cuban mutt with negroid blood but that just describes your average iberian
tl;dr; she's not white

>>17927932
>Spaniards have north African admixture not SSA
Nope.

>Germanics have Siberian ooga booga hunter gatherer admixture
The same is true for Spaniards. All Europeans are heavily Mongoloid.

>North Africans are civilizationally superior to these people
We're not in the Antiquity/Medieval period anymore. Whites and East Asians are the most technologically advanced races on Earth making their ancestry more desirable/superior.

>Also east asian admixture is far more foreign than north african.
Sure but the Negroid admixture in North Africans is much more foreign than East Asian ancestry is.

Iberian and Italian gods won

>>17927982
yes, berbers are pretty much brazilians. moortugal accidentally recreated the homeland of their moorish rapists in the new world.

>>17928017
so heckin true brownxister
black (iberian) lives matter

>>17928019
Iberian and south Italian gods won against moors, nordics and mongoloid amerindians

>>17927963
They're inferior to japanese or chinese but easily superior to Siberian and SEA niggas stop coping. Most asians are ooga booga tier
>>17927982
Both statements are wrong. You're demented and obsessed

>>17928028
Him and ricciardo are Italian/Iberian gods that could have sex with millions of swedish women easily

>>17928034
Also nordgoloids get their asian admixture from ooga booga siberians, not civilized Japanese Koreans or Chinese

>>17928035
Carlos Sainz gf is a Scottish model

>>17928035
so true, us Indian-adjacent medshits are as handsome as our Indian brothers! fuck racists and fuck white people!
black lives matter!

>>17928014
Wrong
Southern Europeans have little of it
Not all asians are the same retard
Negroid admixture is after they mixed with Spaniards so we aren't concerned

>>17928034
They're not, those people created the mongol empire that's is much more important than al teannylus

>>17928034
>The ‘Portugal-Andalucia’ cluster shows the greatest YRI contribution, and also shows some evidence of a second admixture date, with a more recent event involving only sub-Saharan-African-like and European-like source groups. This indicates a recent pulse of sub-Saharan African DNA, independent of the north African component.
It's ok to be a nigger anon, it's 2025

Remember
Carols sainz is dating a Scottish woman
Daniel ricciardo is dating an Austrian woman

South Italian and Iberian medbvlls won

>>17928053
Al Andalus did in fact produce much more than the mongol empire but it wasn't a nafri empire
But that is irrelevant since your Siberian DNA don't come from the Mongols or Turks either. It comes from even more primitive people.

>>17928057
Nothing concrete support that. Most recent studiesdeny any link between IBM and SSA.
>>17928074
Based. The browning will go on.

>>17928080
Al Andalus was a tiny shithole while the mongols dominated half the world

>>17928086
>Nothing concrete support that.
spain and portugal have actual SSA y-dna and mtdna lineages. IBM and SSA are interchangeable. IBM was at least 35% SSA.

>>17928094
>spain and portugal have actual SSA y-dna and mtdna lineages.
No. Only a tiny minority has some SSA mtdna likely a leftover of the colonial era and SSA ydna is non existant
IBM being part negroid has been debunked already, I won't go over it again

>>17928093
Al Andalus was more prosperous and scientifically and culturally accomplished than contemporary northern europe or even france but again this is irrelevant since your asians admixture don't come from Mongols

>>17928100
literally all autosomal studies show negroid admixture in the 1-5% range
you're a nigger juan

>>17928093
Andalusians pioneered surgery and made contributions to chemistry, maths, optics, astronomy, etc. The Mongol "Empire" was just a shithole populated by a bunch of savages who produced beyond mass graves and ruined cities.

>>17928112
still whiter than shitaly lol

>>17928112
Outdated garbage. You've been spamming the same shit for a decade now. Get up to date.

>>17928118
Stop gaslighting to make Italians and Iberians fight each other.

>>17928119
the study is from 2020, it's not outdated

>>17928118
>whiter than shit
?

>>17928114
irrelevant and gay, there's no comparison, conquering half the world > tiny local shit

>>17928112
they have a bit of detectable african drift in k=2, but it's pretty low, middle easterners have more african drift

>>17928139
MENAgroids are visibly negroid admixed like iberians. this palestinian woman could pass as brazilian, dominican, etc.

>>17928155
likewise, alcaraz looks like a dominican mutt as well

>>17928119
>for a decade
this nigger's been on this board for more than ten years, lmao you're a loser

>>17928133
highly urbanized territory >>>>>>>>>>>>> huge swathe of empty steppe

>>17928190
Ah yes when they conquered china and ruled over them as the yuan dynasty for hundreds of years with Korea as a vassal that wasnt urbanized

>>17928155
Perhaps some of the less mutted members of their racial elite could pass as MENA but the spic commoners are too brown, too slant eyed and too flat nosed.

>>17928128
Yes it is. We're in 2025 and we know that the IBM didn't carry any SSA

>>17928209
It's irrelevant because your mongoloid admixture is from literal aqiatic cannibal savages

>>17928904
This study >>17928112 is a peer reviewed study from 2020 and is not outdated , iberomaurusians carry non Eurasian ancestry, their non Eurasian ancestry is more African drifted than Somalians

>>17928908
It's very relevant, al Andalus is ultimately a tiny irrelevant shithole in a tiny corner of Europe

>>17928218
They look medbvll

>>17926020
The català should also look like the basque

>>17928048
Cope sainz and Daniel are rich chads

the exotic evropeans

>>17929194
Daniil looks more normal these days, he lost some Uralic features

>>17926356
Spaniards were historically relevant only when northern Europeans ruled over Spain, the visigoths, the hapabourgs, the french dynasties

>>17922654 (OP)
the ydna landscape of iberia doesn't really suggest nafri male dominance

>>17929194
the russian is an outlier but the italian and iberian are average

>>17922654 (OP)
>handful of moors
handful? al andalus was conquered by the umayads, one of the biggest empires in history

>>17925886
>Did you know that the Irish are descended from Roman-period Iberians who moved to England?
fake news
>The Irish is how all Iberians used to look
uh? the same roman sources that claimed some britons like the silures descend from iberians also claim that they were swarthy

>>17925693
He should not show his fat faggot face

>>17925904
they couldn't have stopped the might of the umayad even if they united under one banner

>>17922654 (OP)
more like 300 or 400 years, why do people count the emirate of grananda?

>>17929338
moor slaves serving iberians

/his/ is unusable these days

>>17925913
these models are somewhat bad

>>17929296
a mere 7000 moors defeated the entire visicuck army of 33000, imagine outnumbering your enemy and still losing, also moors burned their own ships so they couldn't escape the battle and visicucks still lost to the point that every single iberian today is a moor rapebaby

>>17929194
>Southern European populations have a high proportion (5–35%) of joint Near Eastern | North African ancestry assigned
>Southwestern European populations average between 4% and 20% of their genomes assigned to a North African ancestral cluster
These mongrels are almost 1/3rd nonwhite, have negroid admixture and look like this yet they have the audacity to deny their obvious african and arab genetics, they should be banned from /his/ honestly

>>17929194
Carloz Sainz unironically looks like the whitest one here.

>>17929380
Please don't pool Iberian white men with italimutts.

>>17929436
Italians are brown, being whiter than Italians isn't an accomplishment

>>17929431
He has style

>>17924865
Bell beaker cock? That explains their haplogroups

>>17929436
less than 5% of iberians have both blond hair and blue eyes, most of you look like negroid admixed nafriods, stop acting like a jeet juan, this shit is embarrassing

>>17929436
Stop trying to start flaming wars with Italian you aren't even Iberian

>>17929338
Because they were literally squatting in your land and paying the tribute with your resources and living off the rest.

They also had Christians under their rule and Muslims in the rest of Spain could not be expelled as long as Granada existed, without starting a massive war.

>>17929631
Inbred muslim intelligence everyone.

>>17926147
If this is true that they had black soldiers, then how tainted is Morrocco with sub-Saharan blood?

>>17929436
>>17929481
iberberians are proof that the one drop rule is real and was instated for a good reason in america.

>>17929631
i'm not iberian, but counting a tiny tributary as "raype" sounds retarded to me

>>17927125
The non-European component in Italians, Greeks, and Albanians is Anatolian and West Asian. Ironically, it's much better than having nafri blood ergo negroid blood.

>>17930094
You look like osama bin laden bro.

>>17930094
Italians have IBM too you fucking retard and Calabrians and Sicilians do have it in similar proportions to Spain
Also it's a question of proportion
The IBM in Spaniards is 2% on average and 5% at most
The west Asian in south Italians can reach up to 20% and even more among greek islanders ergo why south Italians and greeks are very close to west asians genetically while Spaniards are distant genetically from north Africans in any scenario

Kek

>>17930267
iberians have actual bantu-like drift. only western sicilians are comparable in this regard.

>>17930307
Again with this dishonesty
IBM were not part Bantu this has been demonstrated o er and over
PS stop larping as Italian you latinx mutt

>>17930310
anyone can look at a nafri and tell they are mulattoes/quadroons. besides you also have direct negro according to studies: >>17928112 natufian, taforalt and ssa are all interchangeable.

>>17925536
one. drop.

>>17930396
here, you can make iberians pick up natufian as well, more than sicilians in fact. natufian/taforalt is just african shift.

>>17930094
>>17930413
>>17930396
both iberians and italians are 100% brown worthless mongrels, and having west asian drift makes you closer to africans and browns, in fact italians are easily less european than iberians, having 30% more european ancestry well balances the fact that they have 1% more african ancestry
also reason why afrikaans with 1% SSA ancestry > any single italian tranny that has ever existed

>>17930310
>IBM were not part Bantu this has been demonstrated o er and over
semantics, iberomaurusians carry non Eurasian ancestry, their non Eurasian ancestry is more African drifted than Somalians

>>17930429
afrikaners are obviously not white either and would be considered negroes in america a couple of decade ago

>>17930450
incorrect, they are 99% northwestern european, they are white unlike italians and iberians, that are 100% brown

>>17930457
no one with negroid admixture can be considered white. one drop rule.

>>17930459
people that are 99% north western european are white actually, you don't know what the one drop rule is juan (in the us it was never applied to individuals with little to no african ancestry), go back to your favela, you've got a lot more than 1 drop of non white blood

>>17930472
sorry, i established a new genetic rule that says if you are within 0.75 or less distance of yoruba you are not white. this is pretty consistent for west eurasian populations. you would only be objected to it if you were a MENAgroid, jew or a nafri. negroid genetics should be treated differently.

>>17930492
>sorry, i established a new genetic rule that says if you are within 0.75 or less distance of yoruba you are not white. this is pretty consistent for west eurasian populations. you would only be objected to it if you were a MENAgroid, jew or a nafri. negroid genetics should be treated differently.
retarded midwit understanding of genetics, lack of african ancestry =/= europeaness, abkhazian with 0% european ancestry would be more european than europeans despite being 0% european
and also obviously g25 is an amateur tool

afrikaans are white because they are 99% white (northwestern european), menas, italians and iberians are not, simple as

>>17930492
so south italians are africans too

Distance to: Yoruba
0.74819923 Italian_Calabria
0.75282080 Italian_Campania
0.75345394 Italian_Basilicata
0.75471603 Italian_Apulia
0.75621345 Italian_Molise
0.75629862 Italian_Abruzzo
0.75634639 Italian_Liguria
0.75713064 Afrikaner
0.75745450 Italian_Lazio
0.75890250 Italian_Umbria
0.75915914 Italian_Marche
0.76134858 Italian_Tuscany
0.76215952 Italian_Emilia
0.76524098 Italian_Piedmont
0.76585752 Italian_Lombardy
0.76688303 Italian_Bergamo
0.76721113 Italian_Northeast
0.76843687 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.76854983 Italian_Veneto
0.76928653 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
0.76935289 Italian_Aosta_Valley

>>17930546
of course they are

>>17930546
they are not white either obviously. but it's mostly from iran_n which is unconfirmed if it was actual african like taforalt/natufian and not just lack of drift.

>>17930546
south italians and iberians are not white

>>17930450
>>17930429
Is she a african chimp? She's confirmed to be 7% Negroid. Less white than any Italian or Iberian

>>17930658
Literally Nordic phenotype but less white than this brownoid.

>>17930658
>She's confirmed to be 7% Negroid.
not true

she's a white, unlike italians and iberians

>>17930667
this guy is 93% canarian, that have more nafri ancestry than the average iberian and has even additional north african ancestry on top of that, so he's even more nafri than the average canarian

>>17930667
>93% iberian
>still looks like a total mutt
iberberian sisters... i thought it was the native genes that made latinx brown

>>17930685
Boers are less caucasoid that Italians and Iberians. Elon Musk have chink Ydna. https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/elon-musk-a-paternal-descendant-of-the-npe-strydom-line.44699/

>>17930700
that ydna 23andme leak was fake

>Boers are less caucasoid that Italians and Iberians.
boers are whiter than italians and iberians because they have northwestern european ancestry, aka white ancestry
italians and iberians are brown

>>17930697
Most Latinx look amerindians, with slanted eyes and flat noses. He just looks like an exotic swartoid.

>>17930706
Is a half-Nordic mulatto whiter than a Basque?

>>17930697
I'm being 800% unironic when I say literal pure amerindians can (and many times) look whiter than curly haired, arab faced, hairy and swarthy iberberian moors
plus they don't have african negroid admixture unlike iberians

>>17930713
You're brown.

>>17930713
no, but 1% sub saharan is not the same as 50% sub saharan

>>17930716
>>17930718
t.panchito lopez latinx
Amerindjeets are literally as far from Europeans as Abos.

>>17930716
he's canarian, not iberian

>>17930727
and you know what they don't have? Sub saharan, nafri, arab and jewish admixture like (You)

imo, iberian universities are cherrypicking very unadmixed iberians to release for their studies

>>17930729
he's phenotypically and genetically indistinguishable from mainland iberians

>>17930729
also I just googled it and couldn't find a source that proves he's canarian, post proofs or fuck off you insecure moor rapebaby

>>17930731
>>17930716
truthnuke

>>17930735
he's genetically distinguishable tho, canarians plot outside the mainland iberian cluster

>>17930738
dude, look at that chart >>17930667 canary islands is the first iberian match

>>17930731
He still looks white and caucasoid. An albino amerindianjeet still looks like an alien and far from being morphologically white

>>17930744
not true, they are fairly close to the nafri-heavy moorberians

>>17930734
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest, they're hysterically insecure about this

>>17930750
they are genetically quite different
extremadurans are closer to people from barcelona than to canarians, canarians are not iberians at all

>>17930751
i remember the study about st petersburg and non cherrypicked ethnic russians are way more mixed than the academic samples, imo it's the same with iberia, the average iberian is likely more mixed than the academic samples too

>>17930745
>He still looks white
>this is white in spain
LOL
also lmaoing at you using "caucasoid" in a desperate attempt to appear whiter, you sound incredibly Indian right now
There's negroid blood in your veins btw

this is what iberians look like on average

>>17930759
>There's negroid blood in your veins btw
Acts like this is a gotcha. Everyone has negroid blood in their veins to varying degrees. Race? It is a feeling. Btw, still whiter than you mutt.

what typical non cherrypicked iberians look like

>>17930758
the spanish.ho samples from reich's lab do indicate that. 6% taforalt on average would put average modern nafri admixture at 10% minimum if this model is correct.

>>17930764
yep, exactly how I would expect some 30% moorish/arab/negroid/semitic mongrels to look like

>>17930769
Feels good to make mutts seethe.

Iberians are whites and europeans, the cherry pick and outliners doesn't change that.

>>17930768
andrei is a youtuber and his videos are pretty bad lately, the HO samples are on g25 too, i think iberians are way more mixed than than that, they're probably canarian-like on average in my opinion at the very least

>>17930773
italians and iberians are brown people

>>17930778
>If I keep saying it that means it's true!!! Maybe if I lump myself in with Iberians they will think I'm white by proxy!

>>17930773
>>17930781
go back to chimping out over being called brown by varg on twitter

>>17930774
literally all of these people have african and arab admixture and therefore, are not white

>>17930799
mutt please

>>17930803
>does not include bergamo because it destroys the narrative
>no moorberian in the population mixture because they didn't have moorish admixture
oh no no no

>>17930774
funny how even in the pics with the absolute whitest iberberians, 2 mulatoes with african hair still managed to sneak in

>>17930781
what? italians and iberians are brown people, being whiter than italians (browns) is not an accomplishment

>>17930822
Would bury. Also, it's clear you're literally an indian or some sort of non-white mutt. By the way you interact and type.

>>17930803
no one in italy and iberia is brown, let's not even talk about the greeks, literally middle easterners living in europe

>>17930833
Fuck. Off. Jeet. Go shit on the street.

iberians are brown
>but we are whiter than italians
okay, but you're brown, being whiter than brown doesn't make you white

>>17930842
Poo in the loo.

>>17930835
Trust me, you have a much higher chance of looking like an indian than me

>>17930847
You're literally a jeet and you use your own brownness as an insult. Self-hate is bad.

>>17930847
med excellence

>>17930846
jeets and iberberians are racial brothers

>>17930852
gotta love seeing black men getting their bag

>>17930855
italians, iberians and indians are racial cousins

>>17930833
>>17930842
>whiter than italians
are they? why do pretty much all studies show that they are darker pigmentation-wise? african admixture obviously makes you much browner than west asian.

>>17930852
>>17930855
>>17930858
>>17930860
Knew you were a jeet lmao

>>17930863
>brownoid IQ
We mean genetically whiter you fucking retard and btw, yes Iberians both look more European and are whiter too.

>>17930863
yes, italians are brown mongrels, and 100% not white just like iberians

>>17930863
italians, iberians and indians belong to the same race

>>17930864
explain how iberberians and jeets aren't the same?
>both brown
>both insecure as shit
>both obsessed with being white
>both buckbroken and raped by muslims
>both retarded and delusional
>both manlets
I could go on...

>>17930866
you are assuming negro genes shouldn't be treated differently than other genetic admixtures. one drop rule was a thing in america for a reason. iberians literally lack light skin alleles.

>>17930875
italians are not white and will never, especially south italians, all brown and black contaminations are to be rejected

>>17930875
Just admit Iberians are your masters. By your own logic Italians are black too due to 1 drop rule. So is everyone in Europe. Just compare the two countries. Spain functions like a white country, is nice and clean with good infrastructure. meanwhile, Italy is dirty, corrupt with poor infrastructure and cities like Napoli.

>>17930873
ok but admit you're a jeet first

>>17930875
depends on the snps, overall italians and iberians are darker than northern europeans, with brown facial features, only northern/central/east europeans are white people

>>17930881
Notice india.

>>17930881
>>17930875
another snp for light skin and eyes and red hair that seems to be more frequent in iberia
udumurt are easily lighter than brown italians and iberians

>>17930880
I'm not, you on the other hand, have a high chance of looking like a jeet

>>17930885
>udumurt are easily lighter than brown italians and iberians
the average italian looks like daniel ricciardo and the average iberian looks like carlos sainz, it's not hard to be whiter than italians and iberians

>>17930878
north italians is relatively functioning , but there's no denying that the syrian genes of southern italy is making italy look like a second world country

Iberians will always be brown moor rapebabies, every time you mutts deny it will only bring more attention to your moorish past, you retarded negroid admixed mongrels

>>17930898
lololol whiter than you stay mad. Iberians stay winning and harnessing your seething loosh.

>>17930898
>>17930888
>>17930873
>>17930858
>>17930855
>>17930852
You're clearly a menagroid. Why do sandniggers want to be seen as the same as Southern Europeans?

>>17930878
one drop = 1%. applies to everyone in iberia except basques. i mean, this whole premise is ridiculous. south french are already called shitskins by north french. iberians are south french but with african admixture. africa begins at the pyrenees.

>>17930916
You're not med Ahmed.

>>17930915
not me, but I did take the pic from there
also turks are unironically whiter than iberberians by virtue of not having negroid blood

>>17930926
Iberians could be 50% negroid and still whiter than any turk. Cope.

>>17930952
you've reached unreasonable levels of copium

>>17931004
Turks cluster with iranians. The reason you are so brown is because you have deep negroid ancestry that is so distant it is undetectable. In actuality you are like 25% negroid.

Does Portugal just not give a shit about cherrypicking their samples or what? Why are they so much more African than Spain in genetic studies?

>>17925536
Andronovians had 7/10% iranjeet, was this also insignificant? And some WSHG