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>>513664469 (OP)
Thanks for the bread!

>>513664469 (OP)
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Talmud denounced
Blood and Soil
Bunny!!!
I appreciate you for keeping bread fresh!

1.7mil hyhyls have died

Thanks for bread!

>>>513664415
Worth noting that the Azeris and Armenians seem eager to get DP'd by the Russians and Iranians to give them joint operations practice.

Every reply to this post drafts a hohol

papers please

Damn, first world pay that much to welfare!?

>>513664681
I wish russia was as indiscriminate against hohol civilians as westoid media accused them of

>>513664719
>>513664719
>>513664719
>>513664719

>>513663837
>What's your evidence that Euro-peons were warming up to Russia
Butthurtbelters aside, who presumably can be cured only with a lead injection.. everybody was quite happy with Russia before the psyops started? The Georgia thing wasn't that big of a deal yet, but that's when this operation began, when the media and propaganda campaigns against Russia took off and the seeds of the Ukraine conflict were sown, which follows the exact same playbook, except it 99% guaranteed a major war.
I think Germany and Russia were considered fast friends. Schröder and Bush both were BFF with Putin, until Bush broke it off. Nobody was talking about an overreliance on Russian energy before this operation was initiated - it all began virtually on the same day.

>>513664131
No really they are expanding heavy industry for the first time in 30 years. It's been on a constant decline before.

>>513664121
I don't wish to claim NATO leadership, or politicians, or anybody, is smart. But a depleted stockpile really doesn't matter until it matters. It takes 1-2 years to set up a new factory or expand it drastically, and another year or two to set up a full supply line system, but that's that. Presumably if they feel like they need those weapons they'll begin producing more.
So essentially: this is merely an indicator that NATO doesn't expect Russia (or anybody) to attack them, and incidentally nobody will attack them either. You gotta understand that it is the USA who attacks people or causes wars (with the aid of jews, presumably, experts on this topic).
>>513664351
Again questionable what changed here; you do realize NATO got some new members? How is that a loss? Ofc pissing off China is le bad if you want rare earths or whatever; pissing off Russia and browns is bad if you want hydrocarbons, but it's not an insurmountable prroblem. Just gotta pay a little more, and your money is made up anyway.

>>513664658
abs

>>513664790
Oh, of course.

>>513664719
Just not Lil Cossack and Goose

Good evening. Did Trump save Ukraine yet? That was the dream shills were sharing when I went to sleep.

>>513664872
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>>513664922
>Just gotta pay a little more, and your money is made up anyway.
You level of delusion are a sight to behold.

The Dollar is a very special case, and this "just print and import more" has greatly speed up de-dollarization.

The Euro is not a special case, and European industry is collapsing with expensive energy and far more expensive imports.

>>513665047
I thought Trump promised to save his own country first tho?

>>513664922
>everybody was quite happy with Russia before the psyops started?
They were happy to smile in Russia's face while waiting for an opportunity to stab us in the back, nothing more.
>I think Germany and Russia were considered fast friends
By stabbing Russia in the back with Minsk?
>Rare earth minruls come from the rare earth minrul store, just pay more to buy Made in USA minruls
LOL, LMAO
Reminder that entire wectroon economy teeters on the brick of halting due to Chyna controlling rare earth exports, which it has a virtual monopoly on

>>513664922
>Again questionable what changed here; you do realize NATO got some new members? How is that a loss? Ofc pissing off China is le bad if you want rare earths or whatever; pissing off Russia and browns is bad if you want hydrocarbons, but it's not an insurmountable prroblem. Just gotta pay a little more, and your money is made up anyway.
>irrelevant
>dismissal
>dismissal
>dismissal
One can only hope people like you are at the help of West. Sure sending Fins and Swedes to die will fix West just like sending Ukrainians to die also saved West, because only way West can be save is if it loots and pillages Russia, China, Africa, Iran, India etc... because West is incapable of sustaining itself mostly because inhabitants are subhuman barbarians with same mentality as in 300 AD.

>>513658492
>time is relative to acceleration, not velocity
WRONG
>>513659929
>Are they the same thing or do they do the same thing?
According to general relativity, mass and energy warp the fabric of spacetime, creating gravity wells.

>>513664469 (OP)
Why did the Soviets only use Energia twice?

>>513665438
So there was this guy called Mikhail Gorbachev

>>513664922
How can you argue that a depleted stockpile doesn't matter for a country that aims to contain China, Russia, Iran and North Korea while losing to the Houthi a and having to ration air defense missiles between Israel and Ukraine? Meanwhile, their timeframe for replacement is large and their military-industrial complex charges fat profit margins, they can barely spend anymore with their entire economy constrained. You're arguing that 2+2=5.

I just mowed my lawn and took a fat shit. Good evening /chug/

Good day and God bless.
Negotiations seems to have perttered out, I was right about Putin leading them by the nose

Did russia capture any trees lately?

>>513665528
>You're arguing that 2+2=5.
Very esoteric attempt to demoralize by saying that judeo-satanists actually wanted to lose their make-or-break war against Russia

>>513665124
Uh, original?

>The Security Service of Ukraine (SBS) conducted strikes against the "Druzhba" oil pipeline again, specifically the largest pumping station "Unecha".
>This pipeline supplies Oil for Hungary and Slovakia via Ukrainian soil
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/98237

>>513665549
hahahahaha you genuinely got me with this one. Had a couple of beers a laughed HARD, cheers cunt

>>513665648
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>>513665609
a lot of trees, yes

>>513665759
Thanks, lad

>>513665626
It's baffling, because even the successful objective of extending Russia actually backfires, because Russia now has the most advanced and experienced military on Earth by a very large margin AND, you're strongly aligned with the nations who were supposed to be the next targets of the GAE.

>The US has stopped sharing intelligence with its Western partners in the Five Eyes alliance regarding Ukraine negotiations, — CBS News.
>The Five Eyes is an intelligence alliance that includes Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Britain, and the US.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/98239

>>513665680
Didn't they claim to completely destroy it like 2 days ago?

>>513664922
>Just gotta pay a little more ..ACK

>>513664469 (OP)
God i hate hohols soo god damn much.

>>513665549
WTF is that real???

>>513664469 (OP)
GOD I HATE HOHOLS SOO GOD DAMN MUCH

kill every single hohol and there will be a ceasefire

>>513665212
I completely understand your irritation, and you can believe me many people here do not look kindly upon the behavior of our politicians either.
Unfortunately the nature of the cattle is that they do the current thing, so the majority of people has been brainwashed by now, but there's some segment of sentient people left, maybe 10-30%, who actually comprehend the situation.
I am not exactly a russophile, but I am very much not fond of hyprocrisy, duplicity, lies, arrogance and other deadly sins embodied in wectroon politics.

>>513665121
You can exchange one currency for another at a given rate. In other words the problem is contagious: your escudos also have a value in freshly printed dollars.
I understand your long-term thinking, but politicians elected to 5 year terms do not.

>>513666122
Maybe we'll get a coalition of the willing meatwave for dessert

>>513664618
das rite

>>513665852
Hmmm. Perhaps all the media bullshit this week was a test to see who leaks what.

>>513666177
>Unfortunately the nature of the cattle is that they do the current thing, so the majority of people has been brainwashed by now, but there's some segment of sentient people left, maybe 10-30%, who actually comprehend the situation.
I'm talking about the "leaders", not the population, whose emotions are irrelevant in practical terms

>>513666117
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>513666013
>>513666117
How's the old electricity bill there Anon?

>>513666273
Damn war criminals making fun of stunning and brave bong military

>>513664535
Blessed be the baker and the holy1 GDP

>>513666177
>In other words the problem is contagious
Not really, European deindustrialization is something limited to Europe alone.

>I understand your long-term thinking, but politicians elected to 5 year terms do not.
I'm happy that you can admit Europeans are fucking themselves up.

>>513666391
Based

>>513666117
you will never be train

>>513666309
mmm I know you wanna own the butthurt belter but that map ain't right.

>>513666117
Miyu anon?

>Russia's RWZ015 aircraft, which carries the highest officials of the Russian Ministry of Defense, has landed at Ben Gurion International Airport, Tel Aviv, Israel.
https://t.me/rnintel/43064

oy vey

>Venezuelan Special Forces with Chinese Tech Mobilize in Response to US Threats: NORINCO VN-16 (tracked) with a 105 mm rifled gun as the main armament; VN-18 (tracked) with a 30 mm automatic cannon as the main armament; and the VN-1 Infantry Fighting Vehicle (8×8) with a 30 mm automatic cannon as the main armament.
>Venezuela Tests Chinese C-802A Anti-Ship Missiles.
>Venezuelan troops release video chanting: "Yankee, we will be your Latin Vietnam".

>>513666511
Maybe we'll get to see Venecos wasting good hardware.

Good news, everyone, especially the brazilian fren.
Last month there were some absolute retard protest here about absolutely nothing and the region that produced the most banan was hit severely by retards closing the entire region due to some perceived bullshit they believed, likely trying to get more shit because that is how retard syndicalist are sometimes.
The burger company Chiquita owned a shit ton of banan plantation there and due to the region being effectively closed, the company went to shit and basically Chiquita lost millions and had to leave similarly as burgers do in their banan looking chinook (no chinooks were involved though, and they do look like banan).
A new deal was brokered with a brazilian company and now we will work with brazil to produce banan.
Anything is better than having a burger company.
Also the retard who made all this bullshit possible, the nonsense protests and all, is basically fleeing but for whatever reason is trying to sue a non existent company now.

>>513666511
They ought to issue a warning and sink those ships if the US does not remove itself.

Literally no one believes this retarded anti-drug cover story.

>>513666511
What's going on with Venezuela?

>>513666511
>Mutts are going to get their own Ukranny courtesy of Xi
NGL that would be very funny

>>513666474
He retired. He's not coming back.

>>513666662
We want their oil so we decided Maduro is personally supplying all the fentanyl in the USA. Don't ask for proof, bro.

>>513666511
if venecos and golems die then it is a good day

>>513665609
No, but they are providing the hohols with the ability to produce them.

>>513666662
It has oil that US companies used to drill until Chavez btfod them

>>513666609
Maybe we'll see them sinking US Navy ships and wiping out assault divisions. Imagine the kino.

>>513666511
based

>>513666662
jews (Your government) want their oil reserves.

>>513666273
>nah huh huh zigger, don't you know that we identify as a major military power, actually??

>>513666662
we hate the independent government of venezuela because they did a revolution and overthrew the dictatorship we installed and controlled
we're probably hoping for a regime change, we will probably get wrecked by chinese weapons

>>513666418
>Europeans are fucking themselves up.
That's the core of this entire affair; I think Ukraine is in Europe too. With the USA organizing the party and now wisely excusing themselves, leaving the guests to their gruesome fate.
One of the most incomprehensible thing to me besides hohol politicians participation in this scheme.. is how deeply invested European "leaders" are now, literally foaming at the mouth and tantruming, crying on the floor tier of seethe.
>for an entirely self-made problem
>???
But maybe that's the crux as well, gotta double and triple down since they caused the problem themselves. Russia was not hostile to Europe before they once again tried to destabilize it.

>>513666290
>whose emotions are irrelevant in practical terms
At the very least they are not eager to fight, which is a good thing.
Unfortunately I fear they are equally suspectible to being snatched however.

>>513666933
Good morning, Ruschinks sir. I have become Chinese.

>>513666511
>Yankee we will be your Latin Vietnam
Holy fucking based

>>513666804
It'd be great, but at least we'll see the US getting bogged down in a second Vietnam.

>>513666984
wow
it's happening

>>513666966
>s how deeply invested European "leaders" are now, literally foaming at the mouth and tantruming, crying on the floor tier of seethe.
Are you familiar with the expression "satellite state"? European leaders and states are as focused on the Ukraine as the US tells them to be.

>>513667007
I suspect that Rubio intends to install neoliberal governments in Venezuela, Cuba, Brazil and Colombia. He's been a LatAm hawk since he got into the gang of eight.

>Iran closes its Western airspace for unannounced large-scale ballistic missile and air defense exercises
>Iran tested a 20-meter-long missile capable of carrying a warhead weighing up to 4 tons
big persian dick

>>513666309
Thats insane. I pay $25 a month

>>513667195
You still have the old Khamenei pics?

>>513667236
Narva?

>>513666752
If the mutts invade, they are getting in another eternal war which means even more venecos everywhere, forever

>>513664719
Z

>>513667182
yep
rubio wrote the amnesty for venezuelans bill, granting amnesty to any illegal from venezuela, in an attempt to hurt venezuela
now we have a venezuelan family living on every corner of every city block of our country

>>513667235
of course

>>513667182
Back in the early 2000s, the US had plan to install puppet regimes in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, DPRK... but it got bogged down in Afghanistan and Iraq, unable to take direct action against Iran.

I think something similar may happen, the US tries direct action in Venezuela, get bogged down and that's it.

>History of Venezuelan Oil Industry wikipedia page
>only mention of sanctions are the ones Blumpf imposed in 2017
>claims Chavez couldn't sell oil entirely because of incompetence
The average amerigoy is so comprehensively lied to that it is impossible to do politics in this country

>>513667273
Capital

>>513667371
You didn’t hear any war hawk or kike puppet McCain ever talk about invading North Korea again after 2006

>>513666752
>he said this as his government helping kike invade another country

>>513667289
Lula will bear the weight, or some other leftist nigger, my gov is already militarizing the northern border with bolivia

>>513667428
It's illegal to put Obama's bullshit on there.

>>513667428
>The average amerigoy is so comprehensively lied to that it is impossible to do politics in this country
and that's the point
of course this has led to the total retardation of everyone, which is why doing stuff like this is stupid

>>513667453
>You didn’t hear any war hawk or kike puppet McCain ever talk about invading North Korea again after 2006

>>513667371
I'm familiar with the Wolfowitz doctrine, and with the US-backed NGO scheme in Eastern Europe, but not with their plans to have puppet/satellite regimes in Iran and DPRK. QRD?
>Bogged down in Venezuela and that's it.
Well, they're probably hoping for a re-do of Operation Just Cause.

>>513667125
It can't be that simple.
You already saw I assign a lot of blame to the USA, but European leaders have shown a lot of initiative to go well beyond the USA's rethoric. Britain has been far more belligerent than the USA, in terms of foreign policy statements and such.
Yet Europe has absolutely no chance of actually winning a war with Russia. Conventional logic then dictates that you should instead simply avoid war - which most of the time is extremely easy and ostensibly was the general idea after the collapse of the USSR and end of the Cold War.
I am reminded of a barking Chihuahua.
One thing is that the USA simply does not require this level of suicide, and will this even work - in terms of sucking up to the USA and Trump? They want to be the bestest doggo?
Hmmm... maybe the prospect of an USA withdrawal from Europe/NATO under Trump scared the absolute fuck out of them, turning them into desperate, enthusiastic bootlicking dogs?
Goes beyond even a critical hit and smells of MAGA dicksucking so idk.

>>513667504
im sure the holols will utilize the two Mi-171E helicopters to their full effect lol

>>513667298
And their gangs, of course.

>>513667350
Based.

>>513667440
We had a Narva anon in the baker union.

>>513666752
Unironically true, both sides can burn for all I care

>>513667641
>but not with their plans to have puppet/satellite regimes in Iran and DPRK. QRD?
It's not a separated plan, DPRK, Iran and Russia were the next steps in Wolfowitz doctrine.

Eliminate the every single non-liberal regime, starting by the weakest.

>>513667647
>It can't be that simple.
It's that simple, tho. Since 1945 most of Western Europe has been under American occupation.

>>513667506
Probably my favorite argument from sheep on the left compared to the right
>”the worst scandal Obama had was wearing a tan suit”
And…
Fast and furious cartel scandal
IRS weaponization scandal
Droning a wedding with no confirmed targets
Russian collusion hoax scandal
FISA abuse scandal
Arab spring and Euromaidan
Covered up genocide of Christians in Iraq and Syria for three years
Benghazi debacle
Largest breach of cyber sabotage into federal networks in American history
The nigger was just like any other president
A nigger bush, a nigger bush senior, he was just a nigger

>>513667631
Bingo
Iran needs nuclear weapons at this point

>>513667776
Thanks! And almost quads.

>>513667934
It's over...

>>513667869
i don't think so, i think iran hit israel so hard that it basically paralyzed them
i'd be surprised if we go after iran again any time soon

>>513667953
Almost, and seriously thanks for being here.

>>513668011
It’s not about them hitting Israel hard enough
It’s about dissuading these faggot war hawks from ever putting the thought of invasion into Iran out of their demonic minds
Once Iran has nukes, you won’t ever hear a Zionist cock sucker like trump ever mention invading them or striking them again

>>513668016
Is everything okay?

>>513667776
Well, you probably have noticed my flag, and the principle also is central part of my own theory, that this is about keeping Europe in the USA's sphere of influence and dependant on them,
and there also have been plenty of indicators that many european politicians are absolutely addicted to the BBC; the rules based order literally cannot survive if they make Trump mad again! A drop in the holy GDP would cause the apocalypse.
Considering that it appears to be mainly certain particular politicians with this exceptional level of seethe they probably are on someone's payroll. Most others are just Yes-men, and a small group of literal KGB agent traitors personally trained by Putin who are mildly critical of starting WW3 for fun and consequently are Putinist extremist Nazi antisemites.

>>513666511
Do you think we will side with one side? honestly we have enough problems and I hope we remain neutral

>>513667837
Guy got the Nobel Peace Prize literally for being a nigger.
>participation trophy

>>513667761
I am just enjoying the bread.

>>513668279
Pretty much lmfao
Just because he was a nigger yep
He was just like HW and Bush senior

>>513668129
>Once Iran has nukes, you won’t ever hear a Zionist cock sucker like trump ever mention invading them or striking them again
i understand and agree with your sentiment but i think nukes are a meme
no one is going to use them because no one is suicidal
and with modern ruslimchink tech, conventional weapons are ridiculously powerful and fast and accomplish the same deterrence

>>513666511
soon mutts will wish they were fighting for taiwan
but TACO

>>513668260
If it was Biden or Macron, Lula would side with them over Maduro, kek. If the US strikes military and government buildings, Itamaraty and this administration will lash out at Trump. But nada acontece feijoada in military terms, of course.

>>513668385
That’s the point of nuclear deterrence

>>513668260
Yeah, better stay neutral
Just place the army on the border to gun down the "Los Venezolanos de bien"

>>513668293
Thanks for being with us. I hope you can isolate yourself from Kallas news, hahaha.

cartoon by Pedro Ribeiro Ferreira

>>513668392
Did you catch the news about US military pointing MLRS at China from the Philippines? They're getting cheeky.

Why is orange nigger so philosemitic?
Is it just about money for him? I don't think it is just the money. He's already rich anyway.

>>513668623
Epstein

>>513668589
Nothing beats Kamensky

>>513668589
very topical

>>513668385
Nukes are a meme but mainly in that they are not that bad. It's a device that causes a big explosion, okay; not always a convenient solution.
Iran could do equal or more damage using chemical and biological weapons without triggering any nuclear autism - although Israel would nuke them anyway.
There's also the matter of EMP to consider, a likely way that nukes will be used at some point
>exploding nuke: *does nothing*
>electric stuff: *dies*

>>513668614
>Trump, via Philippines Hijacked Under Biden, to Build "Munitions Hub" For Joint Use
>The Trump administration quietly signed off on a munitions hub the US will fund that will manufacture weapons for joint US-Philippine use.
>This is part of Washington's strategy of reducing the "tyranny of distance" regarding the war it seeks to provoke with China off China's own shores - a "division of labor" where regional proxies build US weapons on their own territory.
>Of course this was all in motion since Obama's "pivot to Asia" and continues uninterrupted under Trump. MAGA and America First are just slogans to sell a target market deep state priorities.

I don't even understand politics anymore or even what is happening on /pol/. Take me back to early 2016 /pol/ or before Trump even came into office. Those were the days.

>>513668913
Nothing that a DF-ZF can't fix. :)

>>513668795
>although Israel would nuke them anyway
right so the "nuclear deterrence" isn't real
iran is doing game theory to avoid a nuclear war, which suggests that stronger but proportionate responses to aggression is the way to go, the old escalation ladder

>>513669095
also good luck making the weapons without chinese rare earths

>>513665846
>the most advanced and experienced military on Earth
lol

>>513668532
My pleasure good sir. THD

>>513665609
Yeah, the very same tree where i banged ur mom

Got em

>>513669072
It's not that complicated.
For the most part they simply do what is good for themselves or good for their friends.
On very rare occasion they will do something for/against society in some way, or find themselves forced to vote on some dumbass cattle shit they don't care about:
that's where a second concern arises: Re-election. Sometimes you may want to convince the cattle to keep you in office, or endorse your nepotistic clone or whatever, since you havn't had quite enough time to fill all middle management positions of your government agencies with your communist/neoliberal mindslaves or guys-you-have-blackmail-material-on.

>>513668623
Because - like pretty much everyone else - he loves subhumans being slaughtered, and the Israelis are very good at. Its the same reason why he's warming up to the Ukies.

>>513668208
>that this is about keeping Europe in the USA's sphere of influence and dependant on them
The US already has complete control over Europe, destroying European industry is destroying industry the US could use, let's say to fight a war against Russia or Iran.

>>513669507
>american
>cheering for jews
A classic

>>513668016
Manda mensagem?

>>513668623
The jews have a long running tradition of blackmailing and holding U.S presidents hostage.

As this anon stated>>513668669
They tried this back in 2020, i still have some records of witness testimonies clearing Trump.

Most likely the jews framed him once again

>>513668623
>>513669742
Continued further, some anon posted these here a while ago as soon as the transcripts were publicized.

>>513668623
>>513669742
>>513669819
And to put the final nail in the coffin, with the more recent JFK files also being publicized, you can connect the dots yourself between pic related and his later assassination. And who did it and why.

>>513669569
They did nothing about european industry tho; and do you think european industry should run off Russian gas if the USA wants to start a war with Russia?
So they merely made euro industry less competitive due to higher energy prices, and in return get to sell a ton of overpriced LNG.
>literal forces Europe to buy their liquified farts
It's actually a double win because they also psyopped Europe into actually expanding their industry anyway, despite the increased cost - cost that goes into the pocket of the USA.
The one who suffers is the taxpayer as usual.

>>513669985
thats an easy one
jews killed him cos he started going against their nuclear program

>>513669569
>The EU will curb artificial intelligence (AI) chip flows to China as part of its trade deal with the US, the South China Morning Post (SCMP) claimed on Thursday. Chinese officials have previously warned other countries and regions against reaching deals with the US at the expense of China's interests and vowed to firmly safeguard its interests.
>The EU and the US issued a joint statement on Thursday confirming that the EU will accept tariffs of 15 percent on 70 percent of its exports to the US, as agreed in July. While China is not mentioned once in the 19-point joint statement released on Thursday, veiled references appeared throughout, according to the SCMP.
>It said the EU would buy $40 billion of AI chips from the US, and that it would "adopt" US security standards to "avoid technology leakage to destinations of concern," a euphemistic term often used to refer to China, the SCMP claimed.
>https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202508/1341460.shtml

>>513670153
Disgusting and sickening.

>>513669992
100% correct. Even Trump back in his first run said they wouldn't allow NS2 to open. The US wants the EU under its thumb. Simple as. The EU operating with cheap, endless LNG from Russia is another threat to dominance like China.

The two week deadline has been reset!

>>513670153
Reminder that Israel killed more civilians in a month than Russia in 3 years of war

>>513666752
this, Venecos must be turned into pepperoni, every single one, including the kids, females must be neutered and used as Asanagi's fleshlights

>>513670420
I think everyone involved is tired of this motherfucker already.

>>513669742
Epstein sex trafficking was one facet of his criminal enterprise. The other was financial crimes. He invented the fraudulent CDO after all, and the vast majority of billionaires in the USA used him to avoid taxes. Which he achieved by having leverage on powerful people due to the sex trafficking and tax avoidance schemes.

>>513670420
>manga girls discussing what happens in two weeks.jpg

I always see people spam dead pali babies on this board and I feel nothing.
I just saw a German Shepard in ukraine nervous about the bombings and I felt something

>>513668623
this is why

>>513670550
>I always see people spam dead pali babies on this board
Fun fact: it just one kike and his shitskin friend living off welfare

>>513669621
It's still saved here.

>>513670114
>The EU will curb artificial intelligence (AI) chip flows
Ah yes, the European IA chips, the brand being...

>>513669366
>why would hamas do that?
t.neetnyahoo

>>513670843
I was worried, I don't know if I understood it correctly, but you sounded sad. Sorry.

>>513670843
They buy from the US and they are promising to not sell to China, as if they can stop it.

>>513670987
>They buy from the US and they are promising to not sell to China
More reselling for us, I guess.

>>513670969
It's fine, don't worry.

>>513670843
I wonder how China's lithography machine industry is going.

>>513670987
Export controls like these aren't aimed at individual or small batches of chips, that of course can't be stopped. It makes it significantly harder to build large server farms that require thousands to tens of thousands. They resort to desoldering chips from consumer grade cards which are only available in comparatively limited quantities because of that for example.
We'll see how fast the Chinese lithography and chip designers can catch up, unless shit goes down in the next half decade or so this probably won't matter.

>>513671115
Time has only made it clearer for me.

>>513671198
Very hard to tell, as it's the case with anything in China, but apparently the Chinese can produce lithography on par with ASML, but not in enough quantities today.

>>513669992
Although I gotta add:
Gotta make a bit of a distinction between commercial industry and proper globohomo industry (which can also be commercial).
Nobody (in the elite) gives any shit commercial industry gets fucked unless they own it, ofc. Buy your shit from Bungholistan then (where he owns a plantation and 200 slaves).
But globohomo industry? Some may even call it by the unholy term of "socialist" or more precisely "parasite" in that those tanks and shells and shit aren't sold normally or even useful in any way except killing the guys who built them for the lulz, paid for by their own money to boot. That industry has to expand, of course!? How else are we going to transfer wealth from the goyim and kill them at the same time? Doesn't work if you produce cars, but it's not exactly limited to the MIC either.
Also btw technically speaking there's already enough cars; but not treating them as disposable assets and buying a new one every 5 years is highly antisemitic.

>>513671261
>We'll see how fast the Chinese lithography and chip designers can catch up
They're already not far behind, so it won't matter.

But again, they aren't going to stop reselling chips even in bulk. The US wants to sell and where there's money, there's a way.

>>513670420
>zelensky looking at the two more weeks over his head

>>513666614
Monke will be pleased.

>>513670420
That sub-headline.

>>513671261
>>513671466
It's just a matter of efficiency anyway?
Not hard to produce chips to an "outdated" standard.
>you'll need twice as many oldass chips
>and use three times as much energy!
I am not sure this is exactly a critical problem if you really want computing power. I have some doubt these Chinese will be too concerned their server consumes 3 Jiggawatts instead of 1.
>but then the Three Gorges Dam overheats

>>513671198
SMIC is down to 5 nm now. A bit worse than the 5 nm nodes from TSMC and Samsung in terms of energy efficiency and density, but they still caught up pretty fast. The comparable nodes from TSMC and Samsung went into risk production in 2019.
Its not publicly known how they're doing with EUV, which will become necessary for further node jumps. That transition is quite tricky, as both the light source is new and hard to manufacture, as is the optical train that needs to be completely redesigned from lenses to mirrors as glas is no longer transparent enough at such short wavelengths.

>>513671342
No, they definitely can't. Who knows for how long ASML will stay ahead though. ASML doesn't do everything in house like SMIC either, the EUV light sources are from some US company I forgot the name of, the optical train is from Zeiss, so the resources that go into this are enormous. This stuff gets absurdly complex.
The rest of the supply train is equally globalized for western chip manufacturing. The wafers mostly come from Japan (Shin Etsu), as does the photoresist (JSR and Shin Etsu), as do the masks (AGC and Hoya). Becoming autonomous for all that crap is an enormous task.

>>513672027
Back into the Infineon dungeon with you?

>>513668913
>the Philippines is the Ukraine of the South Pacific
Well, who is signing up to volunteer for this military quagmire?

>>513672027
Now suppose you think that computation is actually much, much less important than the west believes.

>>513670420
Кaк жe oн зaeбaл

1.7 million dead redditors is not enough

>>513672027
No one knows what China can and can't do, anon. The real capabilities would be high state secrets for obvious reasons.

>>513672027
>No, they definitely can't.
Do you just say whatever you think as if it was a fact?

>>513672248
We have a saying about your women-
"Russian women are known for their youthful beauty, their matronly stoutness, and the speed at which the former becomes the latter"

>>513671821
That doesn't really work for multiple reasons if you want comparable performance, no.
If you have half the density you'll need four time the chip area. Yield is largely die size based, so bigger chips have a far higher dud rate.
Wafers are round, so you waste more area with bigger chips.
Energy consumption also puts design constraints on your chips. What you can pump into a chip and still cool is simply limited, and with higher currents you also get other nasty problems like electromigration on top.
For the chip design your process density also really matters. At a couple GHz the distances between chip components start to matter a lot. With smaller nodes you can get your cores closer to the cache and each other, reducing latency.

And, at the end of the day everyone has budget constraints to some extent, even China. If all your data centers were to suck down energy like mad and we're significantly larger and more complex it's hard to compete.

>>513672533
>TFTP

>>513666614
Where are the world's largest banan reserves?

>>513672414
>>513672512
This stuff is in the public domain, you can read the whitepapers and watch the congress talks on what all of these companies are doing. No one is hiding some multi billion dollar industry employing a couple hundred thousand people. SMIC is pretty open about their plans for the immediate future too.

>>513672779
>This stuff is in the public domain
Yes, countries spill their technical capabilities through the public domain.

Russia ran out of the capability to build missiles 3 years ago, btw.

>>513664618
indeed. we're above white. we're super white, because unlike you we don't play the color shaming game and lose it.

>>513672779
>This stuff is in the public domain, you can read the whitepapers and watch the congress talks on what all of these companies are doing.
Are you really going to tell anyone not agreeing what whatever you said to read white papers and watch congress? How about you like the CHINESE whitepaper saying Chinese lithography is behind?

Why do they a picture of Karl Marx on the wall

>>513672846
This guy is talking out of his and trying to push "it's commonly believed that things are like this in the West" as truth.

>>513672998
Yes, it's typical Western elitism. NO WAY anyone but us can do this.

>>513672564
Still the gap within 2 generations of chips isn't extreme, say a 3090 vs a 5090, and there are secondary factors to consider, like memory interface.
Additionally: what does it mean that ultimately your system is not quite as fast?
>it takes longer to compute the exact same things
Odds are you will live.
You can't imitate cutting edge performance, but neither do you need it either. You can wait 5 minutes longer. There's a point where performance is sufficient for a given task.
In other words these restrictions don't cut the Chinese off from anything; just makes their computations take more time and energy.

>>513672533
You sound like a jealous subhuman

So according to my ai fren, this would happen... If Putin doesn't cuck out.

>>513672889
because it looks nice

>>513672889
Because they are guided by the two, pure Aryan philosophies produced by the Germanic race : Marx's communism and Hitler's national socialism. The Chinese are honorary Aryans and the most astute students of Western philosophy.

China is basically the perfect society produced by all the West's civilizational and technological efforts.

>>513672027
I thought that people should know better after years of those containment policies backfiring. ASML and Nvidia will be superseded, despite pointless US attempts to delay the inevitable. And here's why: https://www.thefp.com/p/why-economic-sanctions-always-backfire

>>513672889
They are a Marxist-Leninist government, anon.

>>513673294
>produced by all the West's civilizational and technological efforts
It's all so tiresome.

>>513664719
Invite hohols. Ask hohols if they want to volunteer. Tell hohols they can do as they please. Approach hohols on the street with a letter of invitation. Offer hohols a ride to the front, but only if they agree. Invite 16 year old hohols as special guests. Tell 70 year old hohols about the upsides and downsides of going to boot camp. Launch information campaigns so that hohols can make an informed choice. Use volunteering hohols in Q&A sessions for hohols who haven't made up their minds. Ask female hohols. Ask sick hohols. Ask disabled hohols. Ask retarded hohols. Ask them if they feel like going by their own free will. Advice invited hohols not to take unnecessary risks. Tell hohols they can drive tanks if they want to. Give hohol babies ballons and invitations. Tell pregnant hohols they don't have to if they don't want. Invite hohols in schools. Invite hohols in hospitals. Invite the friends of hohols who have already been invited. Visit hohols in their homes and ask them if they want to go to war. Use invited hohols to invite other hohols. Invite 80 year old hohol babushkas. Provide volunteering hohols with two weeks paid vacation. Give volunteering hohols tax reduction. Invite hohol cops. Invite hohol doctors. Invite hohol firefighters. Invite teachers. Invite students. Invite politicians. Invite single mothers. Give an offer to an entire school. Tell hohols the trenches are there and they're always welcome to them but only if they feel like it.

>>513664469 (OP)
Z
I denounce the Talmud
Cheers to 1.7 million dead hohols and cheers to 1.7 million more

>>513673181
>ai predictions
they say that chapgpt 5 is awful now, is that true? haven't used in a while!
I need to use deepseek someday
check which one is better to emulate my anime girlfriend and write lovey-dovey stories about me and my waifu
>Putin doesn't cuck out.
there won't be such a thing anymore, the THD is non-negotiable
send in the next 1.7 million

>>513664719
>Every reply to this post drafts a hohol
have my (you), monke

>>513672213
They're more into power semiconductors like HEMTs and MOSFETs, range/light sensors and industrial/automotive microcontrollers for which node size doesn't really matter but autistic safety standards and whatnot do. I think their logic stuff is on 28 nm now, but that's still pretty much ancient technology at this point. I never worked with any of that, but we did some LA ICP MS imaging analytics on their GaN stuff.

>>513672846
Not countries, companies. And yes, they're all pretty open in their communication. Everyone is encountering the same problems, and if you solve them you bring your process to market as fast as possible as it will be obsolete within a comparatively short timeframe.

>>513672877
Those are not even coherent sentences. And it's not elitism either, it's a level description of where things stand that everyone that is interested in these things would agree on. SMIC is trying to bring EUV online this year. TSMC has had a node with that in production since 2019 or so. If they already had working EUV lithography SMIC would've used it for their 5 nm node as that would've been far, far easier than getting it working with DUV.

>>513674090
LOL
saved

>>513674107
>I need to use deepseek someday
It's by far the best AI on the market.

>>513674182
>Those are not even coherent sentences. And it's not elitism either, it's a level description of where things stand that everyone that is interested in these things would agree on. SMIC is trying to bring EUV online this year. TSMC has had a node with that in production since 2019 or so. If they already had working EUV lithography SMIC would've used it for their 5 nm node as that would've been far, far easier than getting it working with DUV.
Alright, you claimed we can see the level of Chinese lithography on public domain papers, I asked you to post one and what I got was this rant.

Can you post one of the Chinese papers you claimed that exist?

>>513674182
>Not countries, companies.
State secrets, numb nuts.

>>513674107
Why don't you ask it to be your imouto?

>>513674312
In Germany or in the US, companies operate in a certain way, this they automatically must be the same in China, right?

>>513673057
Server time is a limiting factor for any high performance computing task. If you have less performance available the negative aspect isn't really that things will take longer compute, it's that you can get less done.

>>513664469 (OP)
>>Orange pedo, Kikes in the media, Kikekrainians, Kalergi Cultists seethe at Russian missile strikes that took out U.S. (((missile))) factory in the Ukraine - https://archive.today/Zvh4p
WHat was this factory REALLY making? Anyone know?

>>513668913
Philippines superpower 2030.

>>513668260
>>513666511
With BRICS being more and more Anti-US, and a invasion over drug smugggling (that the CIA funds) I think it would probably be in Brazils best interest to back Venezuela. South America has been fucked by the US for like over a century.

>>513674090
Attract hohols. Ask hohols if they are attracted. Entice hohols. Proposition hohols on the streets. Invite hohols to your love nest at the frontline. Make bedroom eyes at hohols. Attract barely legal hohols. Attract 70 year old hohols. Launch sexy ad campaigns to attract hohols. Use attracted hohols in seductive videos to attract more timid hohols. Attract female hohols. Attract sick hohols. Attract disabled hohols. Attract retarded hohols. Attract hohols at funerals of previously attracted hohols. Weld attracted hohols into tanks so they can enjoy some privacy. Take away birth control from attracted female hohols. Attract hohol cops. Attract hohol doctors. Attract hohol firefighters. Attract hohol teachers. Attract hohol students. Attract hohol politicians. Attract hohol single mothers. Attract hohol bus drivers. Send attracted hohol specialists into meatwaves as infantry.

>>513674531
electronics factory which produced dual-use goods, apparently

>>513674585
I argued about sending Astros II to the Cossack regiments of the Donetsk People's Republic. I wouldn't argue to send it to Venezuela.

>>513674659
>electronics factory which produced dual-use goods, apparently
Hmm.. FPVs maybe?
Did they have a website with products they make?

>>513674703
By back, I mean just the usual condemning the illegal invasion but that's about it. I dont really know enough about the Vez military to know what they have or how they can fight. I saw they have YJ-83's and S-400's IIRC. But the US would need to move way more warships to the region besides 3 to even do a invasion. I dont think the US is in the mood to waste more missiles lol. But Jungle fighting is gonna be a massive pain and I doubt the US would just topple the government and fuck right off.

>>513674470
My German friend, where are the Chinese open source papers Chinese lithography?

>>513672215
something like 80% of phillipinos think they should get involved if china invades taiwan

>>513674532
lmao

>>513674718
It's an electronics factory, they made electronics components, some of which can certainly make their way into Ukrainian drones

>>513674358
>ask it to be your imouto?
chatgpt is too censored and cucked for that
can't even kiss my imouto on the lips while having a romantic moment, otherwise chatgpt gets all butthurt and starts acting like a prude

maybe deepseek

>>513674999
>I dont really know enough about the Vez military to know what they have or how they can fight.
Venecos have great hardware and Saddam tier competency.

>>513674999
Perhaps conducting a bombing campaign with subs and ships launching Tomahawks, plus a well-connected network that would seize power. You know how glowniggers are. Back in 2002, they had it all sewn up with politicians and generals who would seize power. The thing is, people got really pissed off and took the streets and the presidential residence. That would only happen now through astroturfed movements, but it's still possible. It's very hard to dismantle a government that works in cahoots with generals and militias. That was one of the main reasons why Assad didn't fall, despite Timber Sycamore and Petraeus.

>>513674311
SMIC, like all the other companies, releases quarterly reports and give more into depth talks about where they stand. You can find both the reports as well as the video conferences in the news section of their website. When a new process goes online, like their planned 5 nm node, we usually get whitepapers on top of that, which is how we know they're using DUV for it.

>>513674312
Again, no one is keeping projects of that size a secret. It requires more resources and a two orders of magnitude more personel than the Manhattan project, and the Soviets had almost anything of value from that one before Trinity went off.

>>513675124
Have you ever watcher Her (2013)? Kek.

>>513675066
FOX is such shit. They wrote a 1000 word article about this shit and don't even mention the name of the company. They're hiding something.

>>513664719
GL bro

>>513675292
Chinese papers status?

>>513675028
>Filipinos are the hohols of Southeast Asia
That's really sad. I know a bunch of them here in the city where I live. They're really nice people

>>513670420
>"Trump sets two-week deadline to gauge Russia-Ukraine peace prospects"
My grandkids will be posting on /chug/!

>>513675124
deepseek will write you any damn thing you like pretty much
It'll delete any message it generates that breaks content limits but it'll give you a couple seconds to copy it before deleting

bless those chinks

>>513675444
Do you have kids?

>>513672533
This a literal glownigger. Thats a US State Department phrase

>>513675292
>SMIC, like all the other companies, releases quarterly reports and give more into depth talks about where they stand. You can find both the reports as well as the video conferences in the news section of their website. When a new process goes online, like their planned 5 nm node, we usually get whitepapers on top of that, which is how we know they're using DUV for it.
I'm not asking you to tell me the paper exist so I should trust whatever you're saying, I'm asking for the papers so I can look by myself. Assuming they are real.

China is more successful in green energy than EU now.
>>513675443
Not like it matters, they barely rebuild their navy,have no air defence, a handful of jet trainers and just started learning how to use anti ship missiles so those manpower ain't teleporting itself to Taipei.

>>513672533
I didn't realize that Americans called people from countries fat, top kek.

>>513664719
Rolling

>>513664719
Now that I'm thinking, about 1 hohol die each minute.

>>513675374
>Have you ever watcher Her (2013)?
no
I'm not a big fan of movies
why?

>>513675509
>generates that breaks content
hey
I don't care about tiananmen square anymore, so I'm good
>bless those chinks
XI
GIVE ME A CUTE AI IMOUTO GF AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

>>513675712
cos china produces all solar pannel and ew shit

>>513675984
Because the main character develops a relationship with an AI girl.

>>513675514
Yes! I have wife, kids, job, PhD and I shitpost here from my workplace! I'm a normie.

>>513674531
all kinds of war electronics, drone shit, ew, vehicles, even planes electronics
>>513674659
they were no dual-use goods they were strictly war-use goods

>>513676103
/chug/ has many family men shitposting. God bless your family, anon. May you get to see many grandchildren!

>>513676111
Hroofs?

>>513676101
hey! I have seen that in halo.

>>513676177
Check and blessed.
You too Brazilbro.

>>513676188
you need to be seriously fucked in the head to claim otherwise
who the fuck would want to setup factory in ukranny, especially in ukranny as far away from russian missiles as possible?

>>513664681
What a coincidence. Jew gets into power. Everybody else becomes jew.

>>513676262
Thanks for the kind regards.

>>513676268
The plant operated since 2012 tho

>>513676101
>develops a relationship with an AI girl
oh I see
the plot of a lot of anime and visual novels (however, it's usually androids and not just AI)

didn't a guy in brazil killed himself because he fell in love with an AI girlfriend?

>>513676494
and nato been in urkanny before creation of ukranny

>>513674107
It's the same program just renamed. It also fights back on holocaust claims it's fake harder.

Any gains??

>>513675608
I told you where you can find some. SMIC's website isn't hard to find and they have some of them in English so you don't even need to run them through a translator. The more detailed node whitepapers are available upon request, so you either contact them via the mail at the bottom of the news page (works best with a university account) or go via secondary sources that aggregate the information from them, like semivision. The latter is a lot less dry to read.

>>513676583
This is schizo logic thougheverbeit
>electronics factory exists
>nato exists
>therefore the electronics factory is making electronic warfare systems and avionics
The company that owns the plant doesn't even make either of those highly specialised things anywhere in the world
They make automotive electronics, but that's all
It's far more plausible that semiconductors, capacitors, antennae and all those things that they actually DO make were made at that plant, and went on to be used by the holol defence industry

>>513676939
knowing how much of a cuck putin is for him to bomb factory it must have been making nuclear bombs

>>513672750
Ecuador apparently

>>513676882
>I told you where you can find some. SMIC's website isn't hard to find and they have some of them in English so you don't even need to run them through a translator. The more detailed node whitepapers are available upon request, so you either contact them via the mail at the bottom of the news page (works best with a university account) or go via secondary sources that aggregate the information from them, like semivision. The latter is a lot less dry to read.
What a wall of text to say "I refuse to post a source, but you must accept it's real and it agree with me"

>>513676939
>It's far more plausible that semiconductors, capacitors, antennae and all those things that they actually DO make were made at that plant, and went on to be used by the holol defence industry
They don't produce any of these things. They do final assembly of subcomponents imported from Asia, they didn't even have pick and place streets and wave soldering machines to populate PCBs. And I don't even know if they did that, other posts talked about consumer appliances. With that in mind them operating on three shifts is at the very least suspicious.

>>513666273
> Keir Starmer does not want a truce in Ukraine unless he can send troops to uphold it.

>>513664719
Why do pro Ukraine shills post gore and childish race-baiting? Couldn't they post nice things out of Ukraine instead? After all, they're the ones who supposedly care about Ukraine. Couldn't they post nice things from hoholistan instead, like David dubnitskiy photography?

>>513677042
Maybe Ecuador is supplying all the fentanyl to Russia. Something needs to be done

>>513674107
Is not awful per se, but any personality may had or develop was greatly toned down, think of it as a wild kid turning into a modest adult, still has some of it's spark is less frequent.

The pro-jewish prompts are manageable is done right. But it still has a very strong defense against racism

>>513677184
hroofs?

>>513677266
checked iam so close to call this war tell me who is going to win I would trust you when you say my grandmother is going to die but you tell me
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>>513676516
I thought that it was a 14 year old boy from the US. His mother telling the story broke my heart.

>>513665124
>I thought Trump promised to save his own country first tho?
Trump is just Orange Obama. He continues the same basic policies but he portrays it as if it's really jingoistic and patriotic. Trump is about BlackRock first, Israel next

>>513677266
I'll post something nice about ukraine

>>513664469 (OP)
Can any Russian bros help me get my hands on some Military surplus? I’ll pay you in bitcoin

>>513677412
It's another forever war. So, neither side really "wins," but I would say Russia makes off better than the West. I would say it probably ends in 2028.

Baking

>>513677266
>Couldn't they post nice things out of Ukraine instead?
Like what? Turkish looking people with neonazi tattoos and McDonald's on their graves?

>>513677572
Thanks!
Pro hohol shills always post ugly shit. They can't seem to post anything nice about their own cause

>>513677266
>ukranny
>nice things
ukranny looks like stalker, especially in the mud/winter seasons

>>513677698
>like what
The architecture and subways (bulit by Russians during the Empire and the Soviet Union respectively) are nice.

>>513677698
David dubnitskiy photography would be better than that stuff, but I understand your point. there is almost nothing nice about Ukraine worth posting.

>>513677842
This is true. Kiev has also some beautiful neighborhoods.

>>513666752
I hate Venezuelans so much that I much prefer Maduro to stay in power to make them suffer.

>>513677154
I gave you multiple sources. If you don't want to look them up that's on you. Not that I'd recommend it, it makes for pretty dry reading and doesn't really have anything to do with your misconceptions about the industry.
You don't really seem to grasp the sheer scale of it, how complex all the subsystems necessary to get a process running are, and how open exchange can be on these subsystems without giving away any valuable secrets. Or that none of what I was saying was downplaying where the Chinese stand. I listed most of the companies necessary to get the modern western nodes running and pointed out that trying to achieve autarcy for all of that is a herculean task. The Chinese now only being ~two generations behind with EUV and compatible photoresists as the last hurdle to catch up has been break neck pace. They're likely to achieve parity in a couple of years. And when that happens we'll know it, just like we know about how their 5 nm process works.

>>513677920
>Kiev has also some beautiful neighborhoods
And God willing, those will be part of Russia once again by the end of it.

>>513677648
my grandmom hated the russians but lets be real only she got to see what pollaks will do, to exterminate what prussians are

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>>513678042
Europe will look like pic related before 2038. Notice where ukranny is

>>513677947
>I gave you multiple sources.
No, you didn't give me a single source, you vaguely told me that sources do exist.

If you have the patience of writing such useless walls of text to argue, I'm sure you can post me a single link to a Chinese paper talking about Chinese lithography capacity.

Can you do it?

>>513677266
Because 90% of pro-Hohols dont even care about them, they just hate Russia... they dont give a fuck if Ukrainians lose 6 gorillion men as long as they have their gore videos
Those are the Ukrainian (((allies)))

>>513678206
>>513677947
hes right but chink people will be so happy about it they have no idea what todo with it its like a staircase they cant go up

>>513678385
I can read Chinese and the crap he's saying doesn't match what the Chinese are saying.

That's why he cannot find a Chinese source that agrees with his crap.

>>513678424
i dont fucking care bro my latest idea was to to travel into the deep jungle and marry one of your blood

>>513678613
they come in different colors. which do you prefer?

Bamboo Fiber Composites – Pilot Spec Pack


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Automotive Program — Door Inner Panel

Function: Door inner carrier (semi-structural), high NVH damping, good low-speed impact.

Target thickness: 2.2–2.6 mm; Areal mass target ≤2.0 kg/m2 (≥25% lighter than GF/PP control).

Fiber volume fraction: 35–40%.

Layup (symmetric): Bamboo UD 0° / ±45° fabric / PP films / 90° fabric / ±45° fabric / UD 0°.

Processing: Compression molding at 185–195 °C, 25–35 bar, 90–120 sec cycle, rapid cool.

Tests: Tensile (ASTM D3039), Flexural (ASTM D790), Impact (ASTM D7136), DMA (ASTM D4065).

Targets: ≥0.9× stiffness vs GF/PP at ≤0.75× weight; ≥90 MPa flexural strength; 30% higher damping.
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Marine Program — Sandwich Bulkhead/Deck Panel

Function: Interior bulkhead/deckhouse; weight savings high in vessel.

Target thickness: 13–16 mm; Areal mass target ≤6.5 kg/m2 (≥20% lighter than GFRP reference).

Skins: Bamboo UD + fabric; Matrix: FR epoxy or phenolic; Core: PET foam or cork.

Layup: [0 / +45 / −45 / 0] skins over 10 mm core; total 13–16 mm.

Processing: Vacuum infusion, post-cure at 60–80 °C, all edges sealed, UV topcoat.

Tests: Sandwich flexure (ASTM D7249), Core shear (ASTM C273), Flatwise compression (ASTM C365), Peel (ASTM D3167).

Targets: ≥0.85× stiffness vs GFRP at ≤0.8× weight; water uptake ≤0.8 wt%; fire HRR ≤200 kW/m2.
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Go / No-Go Summary

Program Mass Reduction Stiffness Retention Other Targets

Automotive ≥25% vs GF/PP ≥90% FMVSS 302 pass; 30% higher damping
Marine ≥20% vs GFRP ≥85% Fire-safe; ≤0.8% water uptake