>>82392025
Are you religious? What exactly are you getting at by asking that here? I ask because your question in the context of this thread sounds a lot like a line of argument I've heard religious people use to say that without god as an intrinsic source for morality people are just immoral baseless heathens. Which is a shitty argument in two ways:
One, it implies an exclusivity between leftist ideals and religious faith that isn't true. You can want society to be more cooperative and still be religious.
>suddenly backtrack and say there isn't and that life is ultimately meaningless
I wouldn't call it back tracking because saying that there isn't "objective" morality isn't the same as saying there isn't any morality. Sounds like you're hearing a pretty common absurdist nihilist pathway to the conclusion that the only morality in life is that which we make and interrogate for ourselves. Which, if you ask me, sounds more rigorous than just taking your given holy book's word for it.
What do you think Anon, am I straw-manning any harder here than you just were?