Thread 96295345

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>>96242597

>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.
Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, North Star Military Figures,
OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games...
...and many other publishers.

>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edit
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page

>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.
https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AX
https://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg

>TQ
Post a picture of a mini that comes to your mind first whenever someone asks you about your favourite mini. Don't overthink this.

>>96293946
>>96293990
>I am surprised there isn't one for 2nd still, given books+cards can be found in places like ebay
There is tho? During the Mk4 release we collected here in /awg/ almost all Warmahordes shit that could be found. I even have an offline copy of the Line of Sight's Warmachine University from a year ago on my HDD. I will try to dig out all the resources I have, host a drone Mega account and share it eventually.

>>96295345 (OP)
>>TQ
best terminator knockoff in wg. necrons a shit.

>>96295345 (OP)
>tq
I just really like orcs man, but the ones that are more drawn from lotr.
Just the idea that these are the corrupted children of God fighting against their will for the sake of the devil, it just gets to me alongside their evil deeds. It also helps when they're manlets, reminds you they're kinda pitiful but at the same time still a dangerous foe.

>>96295482

Oathmark orcs are really great designs. Thought of picking up a box of orc heavies. I think they could be converted to barbarian chosen from battle brothers with relatively little effort. Headswaps, green stuff furs etc.

>>96295582
Their "issue" is the neck joints. It requires some extra effort if you want to do head changes with other kits. They look really good with frostgrave barbarian heads.
Besides that they are really excellent. The entire oathmark Orc and Goblin range is great.

>>96295593

It's a minor one. You can just cut them to flat-jointed ones I think.

To people who started their wargaming journey with Warhammer. What game made you realize there is more to life than Games Workshop?

>>96295621
Oddly enough, MESBG. Yeah it's a GW game, but the scale, fluff, and rules. So different, so much more enjoyable.
Now I have five leagues from the borderlands in the mail and a shelf of books.

>>96295345 (OP)
>TQ
For a single one-off miniature that would be TTCombat's Minerva. I rarely buy a box for a single mini but this thick bitch made me buy into a whole game.
For a kit, that would be the Female Soldiers set for Frostgrave. I don't think I have ever converted and kitbashed so many minis with any other set other than the good old GW's Orc Boys.

>>96295621
I was looking at this toad gnome just yesterday. Such a cool piece, might buy one for christmas

>>96295621
I started wargaming with Warhammer, but moved to Battletech once I got the chance.

>>96295621
Infinity since their 2-player starters were really well priced compared with GW stuff and I never wanted to get into big wargaming anyway - I always knew skirmish games are more of my jam. This lady alone made me realise Warhammer is not something I want to do exclusively for the rest of my life.

>>96295604
Yeah, it's not a big deal, but a nuisance.

>>96295621
>What game made you realize there is more to life than Games Workshop?
Playing my first three 40k matches in 9th/10th ED and then found /awg/

I bought into Quar and now putting together teams for Space Weirdos while waiting for the full rulebook release.
Maybe gonna get WGA goblins and halflings or just Oathmark stuff for fantasy skirmish games too. Burrows & Badgers looks great as well.

Any fun rulesets for playing with Mesoamerican warriors? I got a box of WGA Aztec Warriors as a gift and I already have two dozens of conquistadors and a few WGA Fantasy Ogres.

>>96295692
They're not really in any game. If you wanna use generic profiles then there's en guarde, there used to be a KoW historical list for them, and Warpath exists but that's purely indigenous people and their spirit beasts.
I guess OPR.

Decided to redo the head on the heavy K47 mech, give it a monoeye. It'll be good heavy support for the 5th Indian Division.

>>96295712
Jesus, FDM printing is truly a dead end.

>>96295719
I would not say so. Those prints are certainly not peak fdm prints tho. Modern machines deliver way better results. But 28mm wargaming minis will probably never really become their "thing".

>>96295738
>But 28mm wargaming minis will probably never really become their "thing".
Yes, that my point. I have yet to see a good FDM print of a miniature that was not enhanced with Photoshop and AI before posting.

>>96295743
>>96295719
Yeah, I could get better results by going resin, but managing a separate printer technology is more effort than I really want to put in. And this is good enough for my purposes

>>96295712
my man, it's obvious at this point that you're just trying to get the guy that hates your indians to start foaming at the mouth again. I don't know why you have to do this every thread

>>96295345 (OP)
Does anyone know where to get rumbleslam stl's? Or stl's for food proxies?

>>96295866
I like the ndns

>>96295866
I fucking hate Indians

>>96295866
Well it works every time, you see.

>>96295743
I'm getting a Bambu Lab A1 whenever they are doing a bigger sale next time, simply for the reason to print bigger tanks more easily. I have a Mars 4 right now, and everything that's bigger than your average "Rhino" sized tank I need to either tinker around to split it or hope the creator has done this already. I think there is definitely a niche for fdm in our hobby, but printing infantry isn't, that's for sure.

>>96295900
I would go for a Centauri Carbon over anything from Bambu. Bambu's been going to shit lately.

>>96295903
What's wrong with them?
The elegoo printer is a good alternative from the looks of it, and price is roughly the same. I'll probably see whos having better deals during black Friday

>>96295913
Bambu's been trying to push apple walled garden type shit, with firmware that detects whether you use bambu filament or not. I've never had any problems with Elegoo and twice they sent me free replacement parts when I emailed customer service about problems I was having.

>>96295692
Brutality Skirmish
or maybe Song of Drums and Tomahawks ?

>>96295900
I too hear ELEGOO Centauri Carbon nowadays as good starter

>>96295719
kinda, but for playing, you can get good enough models with it, I'd compare them to old metal minis
if done well you won't see those layer lines when standing next to the table gaming

>>96295966
>I'd compare them to old metal minis
Nah man, this is some crazy cope. Even the mini you posted is garbage while 30yo metal minis sport the kind of quality that puts some of the modern manufactures to shame. FDM minis may have their use as scatter scenery pieces perhaps but even using them as testing models for painting feels silly unless you are fine with throwing them to trash afterwards.

>>96296004
>while 30yo metal minis sport the kind of quality that puts some of the modern manufactures to shame
you can post them and I can post metal minis with misaligned faces and muddy details, I don't see your point
>even using them as testing models for painting feels silly unless you are fine with throwing them to trash afterwards.
sounds like a you problem

>>96296019
>I don't see your point
The point is that claiming the FDM minis can be as good as metal minis but only if you pick the worst metal minis to compare them with is quite hilarious.

>>96296035
>but only if you pick the worst metal minis to compare them with
I didn't say that
but
>comparing FDM to metal minis but only the ones with the kind of quality that puts some of the modern manufactures to shame
is just as hilarious

>>96295621
I played LoTR and they DOUBLED the price of the minis. So I looked for alternatives.

Hell, he did it again... Look at how cute is this not-sking riding a pteranodon.

>>96296508
>Like Umbrey.
>Look at the Steambot page and see the prices.
Fucking hell, 40 kids for a heavy warbeast...

>>96295621
Shit rules, shit prices, shitty business practices.
I wish I had just kept playing 3rd.

>>96295621
Solo game rules and also kitbash potential with Northstar stuff. I still enjoy Necromunda and Kill Team tho.

I gave up on GW in the late 1990s and early 2000s because I was basically a kid with very little money. Most of the kids we knew played with just the monopose plastics, what you could get in starter sets and paint sets. If they were really fancy they would have some Heroquest or Space Crusade models or some Ral Partha guys. I just moved on to 1/72 back then because history was more interesting and I could afford those.

Nowadays I have tried getting back into GW but the lore is overexposed, the minis ridiculously expensive and fiddly. If I screw something up it costs a bit to replace.

Also there's absolutely no way you can get me to meta chase or buy loads of expansions to a thing. I will buy V2 of something if it's very good or a board game expansion that works well. I always pass on my old shit and sell things very cheaply to keep them circulating.

None of the games I play, which are basically small to large skirmishes in either blackpowder, dark ages, pulp, sci fi and fantasy settings necessitste me buying more than a few boxes of minis per side. And nor should they. I have way more fun in a generic fantasy or sci fi framework where Ican just make shit up.

Also playing slightly bigger games than that with 15mm and 6mm which is much easier to win some people, like my brother who likes very simulationist games and doesn't have a lot of storage space, over

They are not the hobby andI generally avoid anything associated with such an overbearing IP.

I hate their business practices and how they do great specialist games and then fumble them.

I genuinely think their nostalgia bait makes people overlook mean spirited things they do.

Otherwise at least they get people into tabletop, and I like their washes

>>96296587
Northstar are indeed pretty fun to put together. Scavengers is the kit for me

>>96295345 (OP)
>TQ
Pic related have seared itself into my brain as the golden standard for awesome.
>>96295621
Warmachine 1st edition. It was a real eye opener since I had only played 40k before that.

>TQ
This is the guy that comes to my mind. He's my favorite because he's the first mini I painted and thought "hey that looks pretty good"

>>96296649
Thanks for the unprompted blog post.

>>96296867
No problem
Please enjoy my mini game of ghetto lego: Tyronicles

>>96295457
Z looking nigga.

>>96295345 (OP)
>TQ
Pick one. They're fucking hilarious. Merry Liftmas!

>>96295692
>rulesets for playing with Mesoamerican warriors
Tribal is perfect for that https://manapress.com.au/pages/tribal
En Garde! Also has an Aztec army list

>>96295345 (OP)
>TQ
This little guy right there. An illustration by the artist Pascal Blanché inspired me to try a paint scheme that really departed from reality. I managed to get exactly the effect I wanted. It's my first fully painted warband and I've been chasing the dragon ever since.

What's the current status of Warmachine? Heard they got absorbed by a new publisher and are now getting their shit back together. What I saw on their storepage seems pretty nice. Is it coming back?

>>96296921
Nigga they both Arnie

>>96295345 (OP)
>TQ
This beauty

>>96296508
>riding a pteranodon
Looks more like a Tapejara or related pterosaur, but yes. Definately cute.

>>96295692
Mythic Americas comes to mind, but I don't think there are any Conquistadors in it.

>>96297931
Look at this one! CUTE!

>>96295692
The three fantasy supplements for Fistful of Lead would probably fit if you want fantasy versions of them with magic and monsters.
If you want more historicals then Irregular Wars: Conflict at the World's End has skirmish-level age of discovery colonial vs colonized stuff and there's a mass-battle versions called Irregular Wars: Fantastic Battles.

>>96295763
I dislike what you're doing and why you're doing it but you're right on this one. Resin printing is an hobby in itself so enjoy your FDM printlines and don't let them bully you.

Anyone have suggestions for minis that are classic looking astronauts or look like them? Bubble helmet, bulky suit, etc.
I'm looking to kitbash some undead astronauts for a friend's project.
I've been having a shockingly hard time finding stuff like this that doesn't require 3d printing.

>>96298755
Lunar by Black Site Studios.

>>96298850
Ah! Perfect. Thank you.

>>96298152
UMM, TRICERATOPS HAD QUILLS, NOT ARMOR PLATES!!!

>>96297213
What is that guy?

>>96295345 (OP)
>TQ
This one comes to mind immediately.

>>96295345 (OP)
>TQ

Probably these little chicken knights from Relics

>>96299617
Those look nice.

>>96297213
Fuck yeah, any artist that riffs on Druillet is A-OK in my book.

Finished up some more terrain. Still got a bit of weathering to do on the building. Getting dangerously close to having a skirmish tables worth of terrain now. Maybe tomorrow I'll set it all up together and take some pictures. The crates and barrels are from the mantic terrain crate range. The building is a renedra building, it came in some sort of civil war boxed set perry had back in the day that I bought because I'm an idiot. North American farmhouse or something. Pretty versatile in that it wouldn't be out of place from the 19th century up until the modern day. No detailed interior, but the doors open and shut and the roof can be removable if you want. I just chose to glue it on. Pretty simple kit, easy to put together. Little on the smaller end for 28mm though.

>>96295866
It's actually absurd he spends his real life free time painting up Indian models but to spite some random schizo on 4chan. Somehow he has managed to come across as more pathetic than the anti-indian guy

>>96300868
At least, despite the motivation, he still contributing something hobby related to the thread and has a painted army that he can put down and the average player will just go "Oh, that's neat." Anti-Indian guy has nothing.

>>96300868
>>96300904
>anti-indian guy
>implying just one guy hates indians

once again asking if any of yall have the blkout expansions or know where I can find them

>>96300904
I post my stuff in this thread all the time

>>96298650
>Resin printing is an hobby in itself

It's not. Or rather, not by default. A resin printer is a hobby tool just as an airbrush. It can become it's own hobby if you focus on it. Or you use it to enhance your hobby, without spending too much time and effort on it.

*kisses ur mom*

>>96301153
You can probably buy them from the people who make them.

>>96300868
I painted the first set of 14 before Indian hater guy got mad, it was only the heavy infantry that I did specifically as a response to angry guy, and that was no more effort than if they'd not been Indian, I knew I wanted heavy infantry and it just took a headswap.

I may do more Indians when I get more models so that I can run a pure Indian rifle platoon, which would be more historically accurate than the mixed force I'm running now. Though my artillery will still be Brits, since they're from one of the Royal regiments raised in the home isles. I'll wait till the new edition of K47 comes out to see how I should do my mechs, but if they don't change the lore, I might get some women mech pilot miniatures, since the Canadians were fielding women in combat mech roles.

>>96295692
Mythic amerias I think it's called from warlord games. It runs on erehwon, which is great.

>>96300868
He saved time by using an NDN printer. What is pathetic is your reaction. You're to be pitied as well as despised.

>>96301803
Do the Indian Mutiny next.

>>96302092
>He saved time by using an NDN printer
That's even worse. Churning out pieces off the slopmachine to own people online making saar jokes.

>>96302118
Ok timmy

>>96300868
Painting minis to spite someone on 4chan is actually based and king behaviour.

>>96298850
Is the game any good? BSS is such a mixed bag.

Sad news for the 6mm community. Ali was a really creative, hands on, out of the box thinking wargamer.

F.

>>96301803
>third worlder army for brownie points
>layer lines out the ass
>sloppa paint job
>bonus: jaundice skin
Peak reddit. You could at least take 5 minutes to finish the bases.

>>96302493
That's another Indian unit added to the army. Maybe I'll make them pakis this time

Question for Oathmark bros who play it as de facto Middle-Earth

Do Fireforge minis scale well with Oathmark? Thinking of using their Byzantine range for Easterlings. They seem to have the same heroic/slightly cartoonish style that Oathmark has, at least

Man this thread is every day less usable, time to take a mini summer time vaction.

>>96302587
>thread is every day less usable
Your added value where?

>>96302608
Whining.

>>96302534
This is a Fireforge Foot Sergeant, Northman, and Medieval Archer vs Oathmark Human Infantry

>>96302532
Make some niggers and give them big red lips

>>96302763
Post some models if you want to curry favour. I don't know what's got India

Has anyone tried Don't Look Back? I'm currently binging italian horror movies and it looks like a perfect game

>>96299073
He's one of the Combat Rabble, by Dork Factory https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-combat-rabble-273949
>>96300607
YES
I would love to kitbash an army inspired by Salambo

>>96301778
damn you got $60?

>>96303383
Yeah.

>>96301153
What about those? Not the one you're looking for?

>>96302534

I don't play oathmark, but fireforge historicals are smaller than their fantasy models.

>>96302370
RIP. Didn't know the guy personally but everytime someone spoke about him it was always nice things.

>>96303542
nta, but I'd be grateful for these

https://steamforged.com/products/warmachine-frozen-forgotten-hips
Lesser Warlocks? What? How does it work as a starter set if your caster isn't actually a caster?
Is this just to prevent them from having to double up on rules to get them to legal for multiple armies? The last all Warlock box were army locked anyways, even though Trolls and Khymaera aren't going to need to deal with a Caster/Lock issue.

>>96302370
F

Every 2 months or so, I'd go to his website and loot at his cool mdf spaceships. I noticed some message around some delays on his part due to sickness. Never imagined it was so serious.

>>96305211
They said they'll release full caster rules closer to release. This is just to avoid compatibility issues, like they did with the Khador starter in OU. The rumor is the next armies for Dusk and Orgoth are Fury based.

>>96305211
To answer anyone wandering, this set is going to be HIPS.

>>96305211
The Nyss half looks so damn good

>>96307287
Yeah, and all the old unDRAGONED Nyss got invited!

>>96296587
which systems would you recommend for nonplayer behaviors? i only have rangers of shadowdeep and 5 parsecs at the moment

>>96296781
Thoughts on the mezaghoul?

>>96296781
I really want to see Eternal take on this thing.

>>96305573
>The rumor is the next armies for Dusk and Orgoth are Fury based
Armies are always 3D printed slop right? It's a shame really since it stops me from buying into Mk4. I don't want to limit myself to 30pts games only but I will *never* but Warmachine prints again.

>>96309020
buy* not but.

>>96308036
Fallout Wasteland Warfare has the most interesting and complex NPCs, and its very fun. Downside is that its not as easy to port it to other genres.
Do you have the 5 parsecs Bughunt/Compendium addon book (or pdf?) it expands the npc behaviour quite a bit.

>>96301713
>use it to enhance your hobby, without spending too much time and effort on it
NTA but literally how?
I have a resin printer, it needs little fixes here and there constantly. To the point where I resumed buying plastic minis because having to troubleshoot the printer (calibration, test print, cleaning, recalibration...) was taking more time than anything else.

>>96309282
Your experience is normal. Managing a printer is a whole extra hobby.

>>96309371
>Managing a printer is a whole extra hobby.

Stop this bullshit already. Its a hobby tool and only becomes a hobby if you focus on it. Similar to an airbrush.

>>96309282
>to troubleshoot the printer (calibration, test print, cleaning, recalibration...)

What the fuck are you even doing? what kind of trashy printer are you even using if this is necessary? I got a used Mars 4 Ultra, and i did not even bother to level the plate and relied on that its fine from the previous owner. And it just prints. Its literally plug and play.

>>96309371
>>96309282
Same here. This guy here >>96309428 is clearly a 20-cents cultist. People like this will never tell you about the smell, managing waste, health hazards etc. /tg/ is full of LARPers that will try to talk you into setting up a printing station in your living room.

>>96295621
Mutant Chronicles: Warzone, cooler and more focused setting, aesthetic, and far better gameplay.

I left my elegoo mars outside for a year without use.
I really want those sexy cat girl maid stls.
Think it'll still work or is it now useless rust?

>>96309471
>People like this will never tell you about the smell, managing waste, health hazards etc.

None of these things make it "its own hobby".
You can make your life complicated, or use low odour resin (water washable comes to mind).

>/tg/ is full of LARPers that will try to talk you into setting up a printing station in your living room.

Mine is actually in the bathroom, because it has a built in ventilation system, and there is enough space and the floor is tiles, so spilling something is not a big deal there.

I couldn't care less if or where someone sets up his printing station, put it in your bedroom for all i care, but i really dont get it if people make such drama out of it because its oh so complicated. It fucking isnt. Its in your fucking head.
Head over to /3dpg/ and look for the printed tanks. Those are mine. I also posted some Necromunda terrain there, and painted pieces of it in /WIP/ during last week. Pic related is some OPR wood elves, which are a bit more related to this thread.
(Behind them, you can see my "curing station", which is just some resin pieces on a tissue laying on the balcony for a while)

I never printed a fucking cone of calibration or similar things, nor did i bother with any of the settings or details of the printer. Why would i? I use presupported models, slice them with settings for water washable (from google/elegoo website) and it just works.
To me, this is not a hobby, its a tool to make minis to play with them.

I dont even know what i could attempt to change on my printer to make it "better", because it just works.

>>96309529
>Guy who puts a bunch of effort into printing and converts half his bathroom to the purpose
>i-its not a different hobby i swear...

>>96309546
>converts half his bathroom to the purpose

Dont make assumption.
Its a little stand that goes around the washing machine, and on top is the printer.
And no, its absolutely not a hobby. I plug it in, turn it on, and press on "send files" in the software.
I spend more time to regularly clean my airbrush than i spend time with that printer.

>>96309546
NTA but I own both resin and FDM printer. I've been printing for over a year and I reckon I've spent like 5 hours tops calibrating and setting them up. Nowadays the printers are pretty much plug and play.
>would I got into printing if I didn't have space in my cellar?
nope, resin stinks
>is it worth it?
absolutely, thanks to the printers I've been able to check out many games I wouldn't otherwise bother with.

>>96309558
>coping this hard

>>96309598
How is it cope? I am telling you how it works out for me, and if you are struggling with your "printing hobby", then maybe its just not for you.

In all honesty, if this would be some kind of difficult or frustrating, i would have thrown out the printer long ago. But it just isn't.

Pic related is some printed terrain for Necromunda, and i recon i will use it in 5 Parsecs too. You can see the "ruined" columns. Those two were my only failed print out of 5 liters of resin, because i forgot to refill the vat after 3 full plates.
I honestly rather spend my time with playing and painting and not tinkering with a machine, but you do you Anon.

>>96295345 (OP)
What kits would you really like to see?

It would be interesting if North Star did an Elves II or Goblins II or Dwarves iI - ie the original Oathmark lineup but add some ladymodels to keep the usual people happy and different styles of weapons and armour.

>Elves in a kind of "Marine" arrangement with grappling hooks, hand weapons, javelins and light armour, maybe more of a light skirmisher outfit.

>Dwarves in pairs, the front one holding up the rear's long musket with a Bardiche or Halberd

>a real rogues and saboteurs gallery for the Goblins... firepots, hand drills, spanners, fireworks, clubs and two man spears.

Wargames Atlantic should do some kind of build-a-bear STC sprue for making sci fi robots, light vehicles, weapons platforms. They should also do Greys / Martians.

Perries will get me excited for Franco Prussian War but where is a good cavalry kit or artillery kit, would have been nice.

>>96309621
I would print but I was defeated by the airbrush. Hobbyshit too exposed to the elements where I have space.

>>96309428
I agree it's not really a hobby, any more. My first fdm other I received up giving away because leveling the bed was a nightmare. My next has an auto leveling feature.
I don't think I'll ever get into resin. I'll probably buy a higher resolution fdm for minis first.
>Similar to an airbrush
I disagree. I feel like an airbrush is a whole hobby to itself.

>>96309181
it looks easy enough to convert and id gladly lose the pile of bespoke paraphernalia. the multi level objective/subject framing is elegant and simple. situations as well, though im eager to see if the behavior matrices and their nested tables facilitate timely thematic actions or bog down the pace of play. what's you're experience been?
i only have the core parsecs/leagues rulebooks, will have to look into the supplements.
greatly appreciate the recommendations. lots of intriguing work ahead

>>96308354
It's a demonic interdimensional bioengineered alien cyborg centaur and it's just as fucking rad now as it was back then.

>>96309020
There's nothing wrong with 3D printing.

>>96313547
There is a lot of wrong with minis printed by PP and SFG. I wouldn't mind STLs but mass-printed minis are always fucking awful in terms of quality.

Btw, is Dark Operations the only army that got a full STL support? It seems that other armies have to be purchased as print-on-demand and only got STL for conversion bits, right?

>>96313948
Yes, since Dark Operations is out of print. It's them just taking the CAD files they used to make them originally, and cleaning them up for print.

>>96309598
that's some mighty powerful projection

>>96302913
Bought but haven't played anon. I kinda want to get the 2nd edition and use the models I already got

Just got in my M4E 2 player starter.

>>96315219
Nice.
I really hate those minis.

>>96312787
not the ezoghoul, the mezaghoul. it was an extremely rare giant metal version of that sculpt. (gencon 2000 something?) i dont think ive ever seen one on ebay, though i've seen forgeworld grizzlies there many years ago, for example.

a fight between these two would have been awesome to play

from an artist in a wz facebook grp

and a converted forgeworld black widow that makes the original one with its tracks and the prodos one look like crap

>>96314232
Are they any good? I subscribed for the welcome pack on MyMiniFactory and never cancelled so now I have the full range of files.

>>96315815
This thing was sick as fuck, I'd pour over the photos of it for ages, fucking thing blew my mind back then.

Has SFG ever stated what is their plan for Legend armies in Prime? Will they be supported with rules updates or are they officially sentenced to be phased out eventually?

>>96310125
>What kits would you really like to see?
From North Star: Tribals II
Not a coomer, I swear, but there is a big lack of plastic kits of females not wearing tons of clothes. It would be very useful for all sorts of kitbashing, like pic related
From Wargame Atlantic: Ape men
Why the F (fuck) is no one making ape men plastic miniatures? They could work in so many contexts, from pulp, to sword and sorcery, to scifi.

>>96309529
I really like those elfs.

>>96310125
>North Star
Seconding Female Tribal >>96316702, Female Troopers for Stargrave and Undead Cavalry for Oathmark.
>Victrix/WGA
I want Old Kingdom or even Pre-dynastic Egypt kits. I want Bronze Age kits in general, the earlier period the better.

>>96316766
Nta but this is perfect cus I needed an excuse to repost this Pic I pulled off 4chan archives from a pruned thread so I can save it across other devices k thx bye

>>96316702
Wild we're getting Cultist 3 over [Box] 2 from all their other ranges.

>>96316779
>Undead Cavalry for Oathmark.
We're still due for Human Cavalry first. It's been like half a decade since they teased it. Hopefully we'll get Human Linebreakers at the same time. Wild we're probably going to get Oathmark 2 before any of that release though.

Northstar be wild, man.

For Oathmark bros, do you know if the human shields would fit dwarfs, or are the shields too tall?

>>96316620
>pore

>>96316854
Be the judge.

>>96315219
nice, despite being premade the mini quality looks decent enough. Also the little cobbled together robots (cooking pot and washing board) look bigger than I expected.

>>96316962
Cool. Think I'm gonna swap the shields from each set around.

>>96316854
Don't own the dwarves, but I can compare the sprues to get a rough idea.

>>96315540
>>96315544
Torumekia has entered the 40k universe?

>>96316986
Just be aware that it makes posing them a bit tricky since their squatting poses are clearly designed with shorter shields in mind.

Those Cultists 3 weapon options on the pictures in the new Northstar newsletter look awesome.

>>96316797
>Wild we're getting Cultist 3 over [Box] 2 from all their other ranges.
Cultists 2 proportions and design are so different from Cultists 1 that I assume they want to make both male and female options match each other. Personally, I would prefer Female Cultists to be more chunky like Cultists 1.

>>96317198
What boxes 2 are missing tho?
We got soldiers, barbarians, wizards.. do we need female gnolls/snakes? I believe those boxes were the lesser selling ones.
Female demons would be nice, but they certainly wouldn't go the succubus route, so it would be disappointing.

>>96317269
>from all their other ranges
We are not discussing Frostgrave only Anon. Even if we limit ourselves to Frostgrave, Demons2 and Knights2 would be dope.

>>96317281
Both sets, if they follow their design philosophy, would look pretty much the same. For this reason they did not do a trooper 2 box, because humans in heavy armour look pretty much the same.

Couple more scatter arrangements done up. The larger of the two featuring the cache of crates and barrels (and interloping rodent) is more mantic terrain crate stuff. The water pump and bucket are also mantic terrain crate and the two barrels beside them are from that renedra farmhouse I posted a little while ago. Little more work to do on the water pump arrangement.

Another note about PVC terrain and whatever else PVC with regards to the hobby is that it almost always comes bent up looking like shit. You have to use a hair dryer or put them into some hot water for a bit (not boiling or anywhere near it), pull them out and shape them. It works okay for stuff like terrain and there is a little more leeway there, but for miniatures themselves stay the fuck away from it. Another thing I have found is that removing the mold lines looks like shit, worse than when left on in my opinion.

Like I've said before there is a lot of drawbacks but it's not terrible or unusable in my opinion. I wouldn't buy it again at full price, but if I found some for real cheap kicking around I'd probably go for it if I thought I could use it.

I know my posts often veer into the /wip/ side of things, hope you bros don't mind me sharing my stuff here.

>>96317123
The bill/halberd is fantastic.

>>96317123
>>96318526
Waiting for you to share the images with the rest of the class, lads.

>>96317024
close. mutant chronicles.

>>96318635
Why aren't you subscribed to their newsletter? Like seriously, if one wargaming related newsletter is worth it, then Northstars.
1/2

>>96318934
2/2
I like these heads more, but the weapon options and poses on both pics are among Northstars best.
I was kinda sceptical at first, about a cultist set more in style with the cultists 2, which i think are a bit of a downgrade compared to the old one, but I am really looking forward to this set, now that i know the pictures.

>>96318942
Oh well, and here the pic.

>>96316568
I'm not sure. I've seen online some of the STLs printed, but no mention of how well they translated the files for print, and I haven't seen them played since the rules update.

>>96316663
Some of them. Cephalyx just got an army update not too long ago, and people think Farrow will be next, since they are coming to the printing service after Cephalyx. They pretty much said it'll be the smaller contained ones, like Infernals, Crucible Guard, etc., since most of them are CAD designed and fit the new format better than the old factions.

>>96318934
>>96318945

These look great, and knowing north star, the sprues will be crammed full of extra parts.

>>96315219
>M4E
m3e felt like yesterday. and so much has changed. seamus' sexual predation is toned down, pedobear levi (pbuh) has been removed for alice's promotion, candy no longer gives people ptsd by magically convincing them they raped her

What's a good game like HeroQuest that I can play with my wife at night after the kids go to bed? Something co-op with premade adventures and simple mechanics? Only reason I'm not doing HeroQuest is because I want to play co-op with her, and HQ would require one of us to be the DM

>pic unrel

>>96319739
If you want simple and co-op you might be better off asking the board game General.
Gloomhaven and Kingdom debt:Monster spring to mind, but they're not exactly simple.
Decent and Conan are simpler dungeon delvers but they're GM vs Party.

>>96319739
if you already have a miniatures collection, possibly rangers of shadowdeep. its a d20, but very simple checks.
since you're using a board game for reference, you may want to consult the bgg thread. coraquest is literally for children, altarquest is basically an updated heroquest, one deck dungeon is a roguelike card game, vantage is simple but very fiddly, runebound is an oop simple adventure game, zombicide is similar to heroquest but setup is quite long. I'd personally recommend Pax Renaissance, but it's not simple or coop, though provides incredibly unique and satisfying gameplay at a quiclnpacr once you internalize the rules. lands of galzyr is quite simple, but is almost a slice of life game

>>96319739
Damn you're buff.

>>96320254
>Decent
>Kingdom debt:Monster
lol
there is an app which allows pure coop for descent, but its a tablehog of a game.

>>96318945
They look like goblins.

>>96319739
Not really like hero quest, but my wife and I enjoy playing mansions of madness together a lot. It's coop, has scenarios and a nice app leading you through each scenario.

>>96319739
Just have nightly sex after the kids go to sleep. It's more fun than gaming and better for your marriage

>>96320652
Underage detected.

>>96320700
Found the guy whose wife denies him sex

>>96320721
Projecting.

>>96295345 (OP)
>>TQ

>>96320390
>there is an app which allows pure coop for descent, but its a tablehog of a game
Neat. I night try that one day.
I played first Ed with a try hard Overlord. He had pretty much solved the game, abusing the monster size rules and movement rules. I think we won one game in entire campaign.

>>96320652
Based
>>96320700
Beta

>>96320785
That's not how axes work

>>96320652
That's three minutes of your night. What are you going to do with the rest?

>>96321204
Cuddle obviously

>>96318904
Now THIS tank would fit right next to a baneblade.
Except that is probably more reliable than the baneblade and those pigs actually know how it works.

I have acquired two incomplete sets of Test of Honour 1st edition core boxes. That leaves me with 10 Samurai, 20 Ashigaru with spears and 30 Ashigaru with bows or muskets. I want to split this lot into two skirmish forces and have some fun with a friend who is into weeb shit. We are fine with non-historical stuff obviously but since we don't want to buy more minis for now we need a game that focuses on your average standard dudes doing non-standard stuff rather than fielding a whole army of nothing but Oni or other monsters. Any recommendations?

>>96321876
Test of Honour 1st edition

>>96321995
You will not fill the void in your soul with low-effort shitposting, Anon. It's too late for you to find friends or any other meaningful relationship with other human but it's not too late to find help.

>>96320992
He's doing his best.
>>96319252
They removed Rotten Bells completely.
If the political correctness police can come for my Zombie Hooker game, nothing is safe.
I was active in the beta, but I think I'm honestly going to be putting up Malifaux for the next edition or two.

>>96322014
Not a shit post at all, he already bought the game and Test of Honour is fun. Why would you not try it out?

New pictures of Oathmark Heavy Human characters

>>96318934
>>96318942
>>96318945
Awesome stuff.

>>96322932
Oh yeah, this means we're getting the Human Heavy Infantry kit. Fucking sweet.

>>96317383
Here you have humans in heavy armour looking clearly different from each other, same manufacturer >>96322932. I want my Knights II and I will not take 'no' for an answer.

>>96322932

Never been a big fan of the oathmark human shields, but it's not a problem as they're dead easy to replace. Hopefully heavy human infantry will be SOON, not WHEN??

>>96322932
They are awesome. Must buy for me.

>>96322932
Is that a heavily armored war nun?
My money is suddenly growing thin.

>>96322193
>They removed Rotten Bells completely
Oh god Malifaux is slop now.

>>96322932
>just bought another box of skeleton infantry to replace the two boxes of goblin wolf riders I finished.
Sigh.... my shame pile growith daily.

>>96305211
Kind of like the Orgoth skeletons. Definitely a temptation to grab them when they're available separate from the elves.
I can only hope some day we get Convergence or Infernals again...

>>96324254
I think it's suppose to be a queen or princess, but hey with the right colours fuck it it's a nun.

So Wargames Atlantic has TDS. Another company I'll never purchase from again. Their 10mm samurai sucked dick anyways. They're entire epic range sucks. shit bows and spears that snap easily. And they're 28s aren't very good either, lots of lazy sculpts, like my WW1 figures from them that had packs and bags that were bizarrely fuzed into the body. Incompetent company and now we know why.

>>96324256
iirc, they consolidated all the undead hookers into one profile. The one they showed off was a skeleton wearing a conservative frumpy dress all the way up to the chin and down to the ankles, so they're still clearly fucking it up. I'll just be using my old Miss Feasance gang with proper zombie hookers.

>>96324356
>someone tries to instigate some political shit
>get told to fuck off
>somehow this proves it's true
Just as whiny as ever, I see.

>>96324356
Waiter, this bait is stale.

>>96324356
here is your (You), you worked hard for it

shitposting in discord, being told to fuck off, screencapping being told to fuck off, running to 4chan, posting the screencap to shitpost all to be told to fuck off again.
This is some serious mental illness.

Latest Archon Studio YT video shows some Starcraft prototypes. Some are printed but there are also early plastics and their sprues. Looks good so far. Cannot wait to see the Ultralisk which is supposed to be the biggest mini on the table.

>>96324493
Yeah.. I can't wait to see some more stuff. I assume this will my big spending "thing" of 2026

>>96324470
I voted for offtopic but posting screenshots is considred extreme low quality as well. Mods won't do shit about it tho because they are busy covering up for their rogue retarded friend.

>>96324356
I'm still jelly they switched their Epic™ fantasy range from a "whole skirmish force in a box" to a "single unit type in a box" formula to cockblock any smaller scale player to get away with a one time $30 purchase.

>>96321876
The usual answer here is Ronin/En Garde!
Go with the first if you want to preserve a maximum of flavor, the second if you want to streamline the gameplay. I use Ronin myself because I have the physical book so we can leave it somewhere on the table and reference it without any digital distraction, plus my buddy is a "going to Japan everey three years"-level weaboo. I spice up the game by yelling caricatural anime staples like "Nani?!", "Yamero!!!", "I-Impossibru..." and the likes.

>>96295621
I went full circle. Started with 40K/fantasy, got into ASOIAF, Bushido and Bolt action. Then realised that every few months people would pick up new games.
I got bored of having to buy/learn new stuff and went back to GW because I’m guaranteed a game

>>96324630
>Ronin/En Garde!
Do you have any experience with Of Gods and Mortals? I see that it has an army list for Japs as well.

Having a crack at some cultists (2), some minor kitbashing.

>>96325038
Without the pointed hoods, I feel like there is no reason to buy 2 over regular.

>>96325016
I don't. I know we have a player here though so he'll give you a quick review before late. If memory serves he described the game as your warband being a "god" that is Tier 1 and can be brought back to life, a Tier 2 commander and rest being Tier 3 decent fillers. It runs on the Song of Blades and Heroes engine so expect a bit of abstraction and fresh air at the same time.

That being said I expect most of the fun to come from each factions having his own style and flair but you and your buddy would be stuck in mirror-match over and over. I'll quickly reskin the game by pretending RAW gods are merely larger-than-life shounen/seinen heroes and demons and freely pick from any factions by rewriting lore to fit the nippon vibe.

But if you're really into Japanese folklore feel free to check Hametsu for a cooperative monster hunter game instead.

>>96324368
>he wants skellington titties busting through an corset
Ew, anon,you gotta think these thigs through
>>96325038
Nice, where's that middle head from?

>>96325729
I think that's a Wizards 2 head.

>>96325729
>>96325836
It's from the Stargrave Crew II sprue, same with the gun I believe.

Box of Oathmark Humans arrived today, so tried putting their shields on Dorfs. Pretty pleased with how these turned out. Built the dudes without having the shields, so reckon I can get some better poses in the future

It's impossible to take WGA seriously anymore now that they are using the newsletter to try to convince you that US economy in 2024 was in the best shape ever, but now it is declining because of "dismantling of all the programs that were driving the booming economy".

>>96326243
Luckily there's no need to take them seriously. You can just buy their minis or don't, it doesn't have to go deeper than that unless you enjoy that sort of thing.

>>96326292
Pretty much this. Keep politics to /pol/ and focus on their plastic/stl releases. There is plenty to criticize them for if you want.

But it is them who are putting politics literally in their customers' mailbox, unprompted?If it's not a business decision to do so, why do it and why not comment on it?

>>96326336
Just stop being an insufferable faggot. No one here cares if you're offended. Learn to act like an adult or fuck off.

>>96326144
They look good. The rectangular shields work well with the metal strips of their armour. It's like poetry, it rhymes.

>>96326349
Spoken like someone who is truly unmoved by contrary viewpoints. Damn, if only I was half as adult as (you) are.

>>96324815
This gets me. Some local dudes cycle through games all the time. Including really expensive shit like Blood & Plunder where I have to buy and paint pricey 28mm ships. I like AWG that have more consistent playerbases rather than being a local FOTM. I'm still avoiding GW as thankfully locals do Infinity and Conquest quite regularly.

>>96326243
And how does this affects their boxes?

>>96326336
It's not inherently wrong for you to bring it up, but the whole thread will get taken up with the same tiresome polshitposts that I can find anywhere, so I'd rather you skipped it. I assume the other anons feel similarly.
>>96325038
Are they going in a game?

>>96326336
>But it is them who are putting politics literally in their customers' mailbox, unprompted?
Unsubscribe then.

>>96326535
Well they just increased prices again because Hudson Adams is having another Trump meltdown.

>>96326781
>again

Never happened before. Do not make things up, because if you do, it makes you look like the weirdo with irrational hatred, not Hudson.

>>96326781
Would they have kept the same prices if they first said the economy was shit and then said everything was going fine?

>>96325729
>>96325874
From crew 2.

>>96326873
The screenshots gets posted here on /tg/ fairly often, but I'm not trying to detail another thread, Hudson

>>96326243
This one's a toughie. I don't think they would raise their prices for no reason - Part of what makes WGA competitive is their affordable price, and there are a few players in that space besides them.

So, assuming they DO have to raise their prices, they have a few choices:
1. Raise them and say nothing.

2. Raise them and give a bland corporate line: "due to changes to the market and challenges to production, we unfortunately etc etc thanks for being loyal customers."

3. Raise them and add a personal note, which they did.

Maybe option two is more professional and better business, but in the small hobby space, I think I would prefer option three, regardless of how I feel about their politics.

People genuinely do dislike trump and his policies. Not agreeing with you is not a psyop, and people don't need to respect your opinion. If that causes you to not be a customer, that's the risk they take.

>>96327034
I think the issue isn't the fact WGA raised their prices, or even than they blamed it on Trump, I think people are upset about the owners unprofessional TDS behavior and his constant attacks towards his own customers and fans over it.
I don't care about the price increases, or any of the political shit, but seeing this unprofessional and childish behavior ruining the hobby is frankly very disappointing

>>96327074
It's fair to not like how he talks to his customers online. That said, it's also fair for him to tell people to fuck off if he wants. Other business owners in other industries probably do it all the time.

I do get a little ticked off that people come here with an axe to grind though. There are many, many shit owners and shit companies in the miniature hobby space - We've all heard stories about people that take money and do not ship, or have poor casting, etc. But it gets old hearing about anon's issue with this one guy specifically every thread.

>>96327144
this

and also >>96327074 and muh TDS was already posted >>96324356 (and deleted) so I am wondering about the honesty of anon's opinion

>>96327144
I understand what you're saying, but I know for certain it's not just one anon with an axe to grind, there are more than one of us. It's not a schizo sperging out, it's several people with legitimate grievances. Look at the WGA Facebook group and you'll see it's extremely common for people to have complaints about WGA and their team, more this I've ever seen with any other small model company, and WGA unfortunately handles it extremely poorly with emotional outbursts instead of listening to their customers concerns. I've seen the WGA have an outburst because they had a Facebook poll and didn't like how the results turned out

>>96327074
>I think people are upset about the owners unprofessional TDS behavior and his constant attacks towards his own customers and fans over it.
Stop projecting, commie. It's his business and he can run it as he wishes. If you don't like it, vote with your wallet and switch to one of their competitors.

>>96327210
>Look at the WGA Facebook group
No. No one cares about yet another civil war in the US.

Here's a picture of my favorite mini - best image I could find. A Kev Adams dwarf from Heartbreaker Hobbies. I have him in resin from Impact Miniatures.

A pretty standard dwarf but I like the wide sword. It's not realistic but it's just the right amount of old-school exaggeration for me. All of the Kev Adams Heartbreaker dwarfs are great.

>>96326981
>Well they just increased prices again

They did not. Do not shift your goalposts, retard. You might hate Hudsons way of boomerism on facebook, but stop making up lies about them "again" rising their prices when they did not.

>>96327074
>ruining the hobby

A bit overdramatic, aren't we? Like who reads this shit? Some old fucks on facebook, half of which support him anyway.
It ruins nothing.

Working on this little bastard today.

>>96327210
>Look at the WGA Facebook group

No i wont. And maybe you should stop doing it too, if it bothers you that much, and if you can't handle some harsh language being used in the internet.

>>96327257
>>96327319
Simping for corporations is some how even more pathetic than simping for women

>>96327348
>simping

You dont even know what that word means. Hudson is a retard for all i care, telling you that you are an even bigger retard does not make me a simp for him.

>>96327348
>Being literally advised to not give any money to WGA
>'WhY dO YoU SiMp fOr WgA?'
Great things are happening on /tg/ right now.

>>96327348
You hate WGA because its owner says unpleasant things about you Ameridumb mega-church guru. I don't buy from WGA because they have no product that would match my needs. We are not the same.

>>96327348
See Anon, if Hudson would come to this thread regularly, and rant here about trump or whatever, it would bother me. But guess what, it is you who comes here regularly, ranting about a guy who posts some shit online where it does not affect me. But you keep doing it, despite people telling you every time to shut up.
How about you fuck off to Facebook, and post your shit there? Maybe Hudson even replies. But keep it the fuck there.

>>96327407
This is my first time posting about Hudson lmfao

>>96327466
And I'm the queen of France.

>>96327311
Check out the assault groups fantasy dwarf empire range. Right up your alley if you like that style. Here are a couple halflings from the same range. You can see they skew into that old school heroic. Very cool minis. I'm sure the dwarfs are just as good

>>96327520
The French aren't cucked like the br*tish, they have never been ruled by a queen

>>96295621
I started outside Warhammer, dabbled in 2e 40k occasionally and only got forced into it when all three of my primary games (BT, Clan War, Warzone) died pretty much simultaneously in the Pokemon Crash and all my friends started in on 3e. Then I left again in 5e when the one army I was really interested in (Sisters) went to absolute shit.

>>96295692
In addition to the other suggestions, Tribal works for the Flower Wars, and Blood and Plunder for fighting Spaniards.

>>96302913
Somehow it feels exactly like a board game despite all the rules being skirmish-oriented. I think a lot of that comes from stuff like models teleporting once the fear gauge is up and manipulating lights. The minis are quite nice despite the price, the mold release washed off easily and the sculpts are more detailed and better-posed than most 3D sculpted stuff.

>>96308036
>which systems would you recommend for nonplayer behaviors?
Brutality Skirmish has a really solid one.

>>96295345 (OP)
I love this stupid peckerhead.

Looking for recommendations for a Solo Zombie skirmish games that is not Zombicide.

>>96327704
Walking dead has solo rules

>>96327704
Last Days: Seasons has a solo mode. It's definitely for sickos. My last warband limped along until October before sickness finally took out too many to deal with the post-game zombie swarm.

>>96326388
For the really expensive stuff I evaluate whether I actually want it, or just "have to" get it because someone is playing. Especially because it can take an entire season to build out some stuff. You can get a lot of mileage out of a quick-ass cardboard boat proxy for the handful of scenarios that actually involve one

>>96321876
>have ~60 models
Clash of Katanas is your upper end right now. Solid rule-set, uses a mix of command points based on your choice of leaders and exhaustion mechanics. Punishes the hell out of overcommitting units. It also doesn't break with 2:1 ratios of missile troops to foot, unlike a lot of games. Ashigaru can be some of your minor leaders, so you don't need to waste all the sams on command. It models
>great troops, shitty commander
and
>crippled genius tactician
very well.

Ronin is tight as fuck. Converting the lists to En Garde isn't hard. It runs ~5-15 models per side, hard limits on missile troops. For both Ronin and Clash, grabbing one of the sets like Unlikely Allies or some Kensei stuff to add some characters to your collection will diversify things a lot. Lead Adventure's "Adventures in the Far East" subforum has a lot of excellent terrain inspiration and some tutorials that survived The Great Photobucket Purge. A couple people just did big threads about jidaigeki movie village sets.

Erewhon is a great game but it requires ~40-50 models per side before it starts getting interesting. 30 models is scraping together 4 units and a naked leader. If you do wind up wanting to expand to that point, splitting a couple Fireforge boxes of mounted and foot sams, one of melee ashigaru, and a few mages and monsters will get you there.

>>96327074

While I do not particularly like Hudson's TDS, I appreciate his courage to say fuck you to a customer. They aren't always right. More companies should follow his example, but in a more racist way. I should buy the sipahi cavalry STLs while the MMF summer sale is still going, and a box of WGA light horse, as the way the reins were designed aligns with my vision for further experimentation with masking tape barding.

>>96328612
>being an ass on facebook/twitter takes courage
Lol...lmao ... To me it just seems like another terminally online boomer, but alright

>>96327144
Most other industries tell them to 'fuck off', spit on them, and then demand they pay an extra 30%. And they do.

>>96327407
ntayrt or any of the other previous anons.
I got snarky service/replies in an email question years ago, and immediately unsubscribed from their newsletter and haven't bought any of their shit since.
>old reciept from 2021
lol their kits have gone up 15 leaf dollars in 4 years.

>>96327210
>Look at the WGA Facebook group
Are you retarded? Imagine coming to 4chin to complain about facebook. Delete your account and never go back, it's that easy. Whatever you do, just stop shitting this place up with the same bullshit every single thread.

I don't give a shit about WGA. I want to talk about cool skellingtons.

I really wan to use her as a full blown lock, but as a solo, meh. Arching a Disintegrate into a key piece is pretty good, and anti-Tough and corpses on a stick that can dump damage is neat. But she, herself, is the least exciting part of the group.

>>96329329
>skellingtons
Actually, WGAs skeletons are awful too. Among the worst on the market

>>96329329
This guy is nice. Going to be hard as fuck to move him. He needs a speed boost, but once he's stuck in, he's good to go.

>>96329410
Forgot pic.

All I care about WGA is when warring states and when female fauns and amazons.

>>96328893
Industry meta is the most tired refuge of the nomodels secondary. I will continue to buy WGA models, I care even less about US politics.

>>96329418
>>96329410
This guy is fun. Again, needs a speed boost, but he's still a nice idea for a beater/support piece.

>>96329488
Doggy.

Not bad for a cheap light. Fast, Combo means he hits upwards, can be annoying with Mage Static. Shame he doesn't have Jump or Leap to really be annoying.

Anybody ever play Trinity: Battlegrounds, the one time White Wolf tried to get into wargaming?

>>96329521
Loving these guys. Built in ARM 20 against living melee attacks. Throw on Inviolable Resolve and stick a Raging Tarask near them, and only Cryx and Jacks are moving them easily. And they still get to put out POW 13 shots.

>>96327144
Yeah, I'm way more annoyed that IWM ghosted me after I made a complaint one of their blisters was missing half the parts. I don't care what they say on facebook, mostly. I care that I get what I ordered.

>>96329378
Nice comparison.
Mantic is best. But Warlords looks easiest to paint.
WGA got some bad bobbleheads.
>>96329329
>Cool Skellingtons
>Warmashit

>>96330340
>Warlords looks easiest to paint.
They make up for it in other ways.
>mantic
Take a look from the side first. The shields are molded into the models in a really stupid way.

Oathmark stuff is the best kit overall, I just don't like the look. Mantic stuff is tough and goes together quickly. WGA with GW skull box heads also look pretty good. Especially if you mix and match with the cavalry box.

>>96330340
>Talking shit about the best skelly boys

>>96330438
These guys look neat and the leader lady looks okay but the two big things look really stupid

>>96330458
The felblade face motif looks much better on decent sized weapons. The axe of the Champion needs to be switched out, its way to big and wide.

Since we’re talking about skeletons what tutorial did you follow in painting skeletons that finally clicked with you? I only have black primer if that helps narrow things down.

>>96330566
Technically a tutorial from the 6th edition Vampire Counts book, I drybrushed Vallejo skeleton bone primer over dark brown (black primer mixed with leather brown primer). It works over black, its just less earthy and you have to paint the spearshafts. Vallejo skeleton bone is a shitty primer but a good bone colour.

>>96330438
>even the wrong best skelly boys are still pretty good
Goddamn is there anything privateer press can't do? Matt Wilson has faithfully prevented hollywood from fucking up the Monpoc movie for decades now, he can fit any amount of night goblin archers in his mouth, and he ended the scourge of homelessness, because there's room for all of us to live in eVlad's pauldrons What a time to be alive and playing Warmachine.

Anyone know where to find retro/original game-looking doom minis? I opened my doom boardgame after many years and was disappointed to be reminded they're all from later versions of the videogame. Also these sucky doom guys don't even have the helmet.

Really, it's the reaper doom minis I'd like to find somehow but the ones on epay are obscenely prized and the ones on Etsy look fugly

>>96330438
>>96330992
The best skeletons are clearly the ones reading this message.

Thinking of getting into Gaslands. Anyone got some good tips for converting hotwheels and other mini cars?
I fully expect to spend a month or two with no players before my LGS tells me to stop trying to get people to play a new game. The local wargaming community is almost exclusively GW-only
>>96331209
>SPOILER
You're mean, anon.

>>96331191
Lurk swap meets and video game lot auctions and weird places like Goodwill's auction site, it's got a hilarious assortment of things on it that are often mislabled and can't be sold in the brick and mortar stores. I buy gun parts off there occasionally.

>>96329895
What's weirder is how thisjust became the de facto place to put the same manufacturers on blast 24/7. I mean, I am personally pretty deranged about GW but I just keep it to myself because I'd rather focus on what I do like. I asked for the WGA Dark Age Army Builder for my birthday. I'm sure it will be acceptable. I can't really afford to do big 28mm projects.

>>96331340
Get a power drill for the studs on the bottom. It's the only way that's fast enough to be worth the effort if they're metal.

>>96330438
Those actually look pretty good.
>>96330411
>GW skull box
I grabbed this a while back. I am planning on using them on some heavy armored historicals for wights.

WGA just showed off two sprues for Warring States

>>96332624
>>96332629
Cool.

>>96331340
You dont have to cover every inch of the car with greebles to make it look good, some of my favorites just have dinged up paint and a guy shooting out a window. I have also found Gaslands to be way more popular than I would have expected among non wargamers, maybe you can widen your net.

>>96295345 (OP)
What are your guys' favorite miniature agnostic skirmish games? I picked up Sword/Space Weirdos and Consortium, flipping through the rules they seem interesting but a bit lacking in the material for a campaign like Necromunda in regards to picking gear/abilities/other upgrades. I have a 3D printer and I'm having fun printing a bunch of cool models but no real game to play them in.

pic for attention

>>96332624
Those square swords seem weird.

>>96330956
Thanks!
>>96330990
Well played.

>>96332877
I like KoW: Vanguard.
I'm not sure if it counts as mini agnostic since it does have some minis, but there are only profiles for stuff they don't sell and most profiles are generic like elf and goblin shit.

>>96333152
Square ended scabbards.

I'm hoping someone can help me. I've gotten my hands on some mounties and were-beast miniatures and was wondering if there was a generic rule-set out there for humans vs monsters. I'm not super familiar a lot of mini rules sets.

>>96327311
https://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/heartbreaker-miniatures-28mm-c-115/

Here’s the rest of the Kev Adam’s Heartbreaker sculpts if you’re interested

>>96333488
The silver bayonet maybe?

>>96331722
>>Goodwill's auction site
Huh, that's a new one. Thx

>>96332624
>>96332629
Fucking finally.

>>96332629
>>96332624
Praise the earth and heaven, that is good news.
I am glad to live in age of benevolence.

After a few games of The Doomed, yeah it's just not for me. A tad too simplistic.
Got 5 leagues in. Let's see how that pans out.

>>96332877
Brutality Skirmish + Song of Blades and Heroes
for cute forest animals like your pic I'd recommend Burrows and Badgers

Working on my Oathmark minis. Quite like the rules having read through them, but just not feeling an individually based army right now. Thinking about how I want to base my army/what rules to try out, and found this piece of inspiration. Looks cool.

An elf noble of the dark court, tough gal, by her status moved to oversee a military outpost in the borderlands. Under elvish suzerainty is the nearby human village of Achequa, which is larger and a halfway point between the elves and free men.
Unbeknownst to her, light court elves are afoot in these new savage lands hoping to annex them into their domain.
Already a very interesting premise.

>>96334979
Yeah I would rather multibase snything over about 15 figures a side desu

>>96334623
Doomed is a good inspiration book, the rules are just okay

>>96332877
For generic fuckabout pickup games, Brutality Skirmish. It's incredibly flexible and force building is dead simple. You literally just grab a handful of minis out of the box and go. SF? Fantasy? Moderns? Historical? It literally does not give a single fuck. Monster AI is good, scenearios are tightly-witten as well. Only problem is that the campaign mode is a bit thin.
This is Not a Test is by far my favorite campaign skirmish game. It plays better than old!Necromunda with a very similar flavor. The postgame treasure system is based on a deck of cards instead of D66 so there are more results (54 instead of 36) and no repeats until you clear the deck. If you snag the old supplements there's even an entire second deck's worth of results, so you can shuffle up two decks and pull from both.

What's a good game for a group of friends to try to get into the hobby? Warhammer is too expensive, battletech is insanely complicated and deep, and none of us own any minis or want to invest loads of time and money into painting before we're sure we're interested in the hobby. Local game stores only do 40k, and I've yet to hear someone talk good about it (or rather GW), even in the hobby.

>>96337673

>>96331340

>>96337693
Anyone know where I can pirate the pdf for free for now? I'll buy it if it looks like something we'd play

>>96337673
Space Weirdos or Sword Weirdos. Or Xenotactics. Maybe OPR's Grimdark Future Firefight or what's it called.
They are all skirmish games that are mini agnostic and rather simple. You guys would only need 4 to 6 minis per player which is not a big investment.
You could pool together and buy a single box of something like WGA or Oathmark goblins, or for sci-fi a Stargrave Troopers box, or whatever really, pretty much any box that have like 30 minis worth of bodies in them and split however you'd like. Costs like 25-30 eur or 35 usd .
For terrain you don't need much, but even just a bit effort with cardboard like pic rel can make the games much more enjoyable.
Maybe painting would be the biggest hurdle in the whole thing to be honest.

>>96337774
gofile dot io/d/Snqk6j

>>96337974
You, sir, are a fucking legend.

Would you happen to have last days: zombie apocalypse as well please?

>>96338082
>last days: zombie apocalypse
io/d/CjsrpJ
I'd recommend you to familiarize yourself with the sharethread

>>96338107
Thanks man, appreciate it. I'll check out the share thread

>>96337673
>Group of friends
>LGS
The really great news is the latter is a meager substitute for the former so you won't have to deal with this bullshit. Usually the best answer to "what's the best game to play" is "the one being played locally". You have a blank slate here so let's do this right:
You guys want to play wargames but know very little about wargaming. So what drawn you into this? What are you trying to achieve? Are you guys big fan of Total War or Xcom by any chance or is it something else?

>>96337673
It is very hard to recommend anything without knowing at least some details about you or your friends. A group of starwars nerds would find something like Shatterpoint way more interesting than some guys who like to read about WW2.

But without any knowledge: Frostgrave is a nice entry level game in terms of miniature needs as well as complexity, especially if you are a group of friends, you can share the content of 2-3 boxes of miniatures between yourselves and you are pretty much good to go. (or Stargrave, if you prefer Sci-fi. Again, hard to recommend anything without knowing anything).

>>96333521
Thanks. I'll check it out.

>>96337673
If you're new and none of you have any miniatures it's probably best to get a starter box set that has everything you need all in one, rules and miniatures and stuff. Look into Halo Flashpoint, or if you like historical games maybe Barons War, Mortal Gods, etc.

>>96338727
>>96338986
We're a bunch of pc gamer nerds since the 90s who have decided to start off playing boardgames. We actually tried playing warhammer first on tabletop simulator and enjoyed it, but just decided we didn't wanna do it on a screen anymore, but GW is shit and we don't feel like spending thousands on our experimental armies.

Then we went to our LSG and they basically just have warhammer, MTG and D&D, with the common voardgames here and there. We grew up playing MTG so we're not keen on that money trap anymore.

We printed up some battle tech mech sheets, but couldn't really get through all the rules to have a good game of it, but we liked the "boardgame" feel of it

We usually played games like command and conquer, total war, warcraft, etc... mostly RTS kinds of games, but we also did some of the civilization games.

What brings us to the wargaming scene is we want some offline fun. Boardgames are fun and all, but we want something more strategic and customizable, and chess will only get us so far.

>>96339473
Halo Flashpoint

>>96339473
You could try Battletech Alpha Strike, it's got fewer rules and is more boardgame-y

>>96339494
seconding this. It's currently the best skirmish game on the scene IMO. It hits the sweet spot of fast to pick up and learn, but complex enough to stay interesting after a lot of games.

Unironically, is there any red flag in wargaming worse than a game that markets itself as "fast" and "competitive"

>>96339710
Fast I like, competitive not really
If a game is fun people will compete at it but making something competition-oriented or whatever is putting the cart before the horse

>>96339710
"CMON" and "Privateer Press"

>>96339710
blind boxes?

>>96339710
>ex-GW staffer

>>96339710
>uses mobile app

>>96339710
"Kickstarter exclusive"

Are Burrows&Badgers ever getting a restock/reprint? I wanted to get started with that system, I like the whimsy shit, but it's impossible tog et a hold of.

>>96340186
Depends on the staffer and whether they're in their element or not. Andy's great at making a fun naval that isn't rampagingly autistic (which is almost unique). Big Bob Watts and co. made a couple exceptionally good games. Kev White, Tim Prow, Kev Adams, and quite a few of the rest of their former sculptors do really fucking good work. Now if that's the ONLY thing they're promoting, or they're trying to get, E.G. Rick Priestly to do a tightly-balanced campaign system or Andy Chambers to do groundpounding? That's a red flag and no mistake.

>>96339710
>Online-only army builder
>App integration
>quarterly releases
>blind boxes
Fast can be good. Competitive is more of a yellow flag, it depends a lot on how the company structures releases and their organized play setup.
Trying to push a psuedo-subscription model, critical parts of the ruleset existing at the company's whim, and especially trying to ram gacha shit into a game are all enormous red flags.
Also
>Key elements of the game are only printed on cards and there's no roster-based options, especially when the company is claiming that this is for balance reasons
Is a yellow flag at a minimum. At that point they usually split up the cards required for certain strategies between several miniature packs, use high-powered cards to boost sales for units they expect to underperform otherwise, and generally do greasy shit. Looking at you, Trek Wing/Armada/X-wing.

>>96295873

Orky proxies 'ere lad: https://cults3d.com/en/design-collections/JoshButIn3D/orc-grapplaz

>>96340038
Steamforged Games have done a pretty good job steering PP so far. The only real point of contention right now is whether or not you are okay with how they are handling their 3D printed models-business-model.

But, yeah, CMON truly are the most incompetent demons in hell. I will never forget their bungling of Dark Age. Absolutely criminal.

>>96341320
I've seen this pulled with board game, but have any wargames pulled this? Not that I don't believe yeah, there have been plenty of wargaming Kickstarter scams already.

>>96343023
Is Dark Age the recent one they dropped where the devs lawyered up and made some vague statements about CMON's pre-emptive statement.

>>96343123
Nah, Dark Age last received a release, like, 10 years ago. I think CMON is just sitting on the license/IP and not doing anything with it right now.

Not sure what incident you're referring to.

Anyway, one of the developers of Dark Age, Bryan Steele, has moved on to Warzone: Eternal. It plays pretty similarly to Dark Age. I think it's slated for general release soon, if it's not out already.

>>96343123
Dark Age they dropped a few years back with no word. They were in the middle of updating the Brood, and then nothing until they dumped all the remaining stock to Miniatures Market. The dev for it went on to do the latest Warzone attempt.

>>96343163
I got my Kickstarter a while ago. It is eerily similar to Dark Age rules wise, you can see it right away with the card layout. But Bryan Steele mentioned that he cribbed a lot of Dark Age's mechanics from Warzone in the first place so I guess it fits.

>>96343163
It's mostly out. I think at this point, they said it was the last bit of non-US pledges and retail left?

>>96295621
Looking at historical minis to use for Warhammer fantasy got me interested in Hail Caesar and Balck Powder. Also the opportunities that smaller scales give for larger battles and easier storage were appealing.

I think it helps a lot that my brothers and wife are keen to try out any interesting war games that I find, which means I don't have to go looking for a club.

>>96337673
I think you and the boys would be better off with board gaming. Easy, self contained, no painting necessary. Right up your alley, imo.

>>96337673
Halo Flashpoint.

>>96339473
>We actually tried playing warhammer first on tabletop simulator and enjoyed it, but just decided we didn't wanna do it on a screen anymore, but GW is shit and we don't feel like spending thousands on our experimental armies.
Paper standees.

Painting and assembling minis is a whole nother hobby on top of wargaming. You could try a name like X-Wing with pre painted minis

>>96342453
Thanks anon

thread about to die, but I'll ask anyway

Looking at Oathmark rules, and wondering what sort of game scale it fits into. I know it's marketed as mass battle, but the alternating activations and individual unit combat resolution with no mechanics for support strikes me more like a skirmish system, but with close ranked units. Consequently, what sort of scenarios do you guys like best for games of Oathmark? I imagine two clashing battle lines doesn't work great with the isolated combat resolution, so maybe scenarios like ambushes, village raids work better where units are expected to be more independent?

Does anyone remember the name of the company that did action hero minis? They had Arnold, the guys from Pulp Fiction, Machete, Rowdy Roddy Piper from They Live, and a whole bunch of others

>>96348545
Klukva maybe? They do a million videogame and anime characters, I don't remember if they do movie ones too

>>96348607
Don't think so. They were metal minis from what I remember. I think the company also did a plastic nazi zombie sprue with 2 bodies.

>>96295345 (OP)
I'm toying with the idea of my own setting for fun and conversions:

It would be small bands of technologically enhanced weirdoes versus much larger fantasy forces - ie orc raids into elven territory (ah fuck the trees are speaking elvish!).


Basically the antithesis of Tolkien, player warbands of humans/orcs mutants and assorted ''evil races return to a middle-earth like land to first fro revenge (but seeing how fucked and sterile everything is they decide to liberate them instead) from a land purposefully kept in a fantasy/medieval stasis with no progress (of course the elves are behind it probably).

My three main inspirations being the hit film Zardoz with its brutals versus psychic/decadent hippies, the orcs from the Spelljammer series that get whooped so hard they go off, have a think and decide to reinvent themselves as disciplined and militant legions. and the Russian sequel to lord of the rings where the elves are basically nazis.

Thoughts on all of this? Stupid idea or nah?

>>96348314
I don't know. I've not played only looked at the rules. But it seems a bit like a gang for people who like the the look of rank and flank, but don't actually wanna play a rank and flank.

>>96339473
maybe the root boardgame

>>96327548
>Brutality Skirmish
thanks for the recommendation. looks quite streamlined

>>96348314
>>96348794
There are plenty of mechanics for support, you just have limited resources to do so and you need to protect your flanks if you bulge the line. Look at what commanders do for you more closely. Previous activations, ranged combat, certain spells, close combat, and morale all interact to make things a lot more than just shoving lines of models together. It also has reinforcement mechanics tucked away in there.
>I haven't played it but..
Yeah, it shows. It's absolutely a rank-and-flank game. Some of the more fiddly mechanics you see in other games are abstracted a bit, of course. I'm not super enthused by the snap-to mechanic in particular even if it eliminates corkscrew charges. On the other hand the way units move when combat ends gives you all sorts of tactical options for following up on attacks, exposing flanks, and the like.

>more like a skirmish than R&F
That would be Kings of War, not Oathmark.

>>96348545
Likely Hardcore Miniatures, but they stopped carying metals about three years ago.