Can gacha games have good stories?

>>712536803 (OP)
I wouldnt know. I skip all of it.

>>712536803 (OP)
Wuwajeets...

>gacha media I consumed
Why they can't they talk like people?

>>712536803 (OP)
notice how he calls it a "piece of media" instead of a game and how he "consumed" it instead played it

>>712536803 (OP)
as good as the average elder scrolls guild quest, perchance

yeah Limbus Company has good writing but that required them to have a completely different type of business model instead of selling you a trillion characters because that doesn't lend itself well to a good story

>>712536803 (OP)
Yes

>>712537215
>>712536929
What does it mean?

>>712537419
corporate shills won and now all art is just "content" to be "consumed", making it easier to sell shit to idiots

>>712537215
>gachaslop
>game

>>712537361
go back to sucking dicks on reddit

>>712537510
I think that's exactly what that anon was implying, that it wasn't a game but more like an anime or visual novel, where the gameplay is probably just running around to talk to people, do fetch quest, do few babby tier fights, and then the story stops because you need to wait for an update next month and all you can do for the next 30 days is explore the open world to get like 5 crystals per treasure chest so you can roll for the next character (you need like 18000 crystals)

If you completely stripped gacha games of the gacha mechanic and simply let the player have all the characters at the start, leaving everything else untouched, they would be universally considered dogshit games and bottom 10% of visual novels, even without considering that they never get a conclusion.
It really just is the gambling and gargantuan marketing budgets that do it.

>>712536803 (OP)
I think they can have good moments, but gacha game stories overall are contrived and strung out across years where they meander through different spectacles without ever reaching any sort of satisfactory conclusion.

>>712537851
actually it's pathetic incels who treat the game as digital harems. Notice how many fucking retards lose their shit if their gacha game adds male characters and how many of those games are filled with wish fulfilment garbage and characters that will suck your dick at the drop of a hat

Heaven Burns Red is pretty good, yeah

>>712536923
why are they like this?

>>712537997
all the girls in those thumbnails look exactly the same

I could not live with such abysmal taste

>>712537938
Counter point: it's kinda nice having a cast of beautiful women who all openly lust for (you) in a way that you really can't get in normal vidya.

>>712537851
>even without considering that they never get a conclusion.
I hate that "gacha keep getting updates unlike normal games" is an actual thing a gachafag told me when defending their "media"
Like imagine if classic games don't have conclusion and just keep updating and updating, stretching a plot point to multiple months of update, only to never finish and get EoS'd
Games and stories having an end is not a bad thing. In fact sometimes the most memorable thing in a video game is the final parts, fighting the final boss and seeing the conclusion of a story.
These people's brains have been ruined by anime whores.

>>712538245
that's like saying "yeah but counterpoint: it can be pretty good to jack off to porn"

I want to play a good videogame nigga. If I wanted to jerk off I have my sadpanda credentials right on my browser cookies

>>712537938
these days people are more angry when the male mc is featured more prominently in the promotional content (which means he gets to interact with the other female characters in a "semi canon" way cause it's from the developer) instead of the female mc

>>712536803 (OP)
No. Gacha stories are inherently garbage given the rules they have to follow.

>>712536803 (OP)
>>712536929
>>712537215
Literal third world you dummies. Southeast Asia, South America, India, and parts of Europe cannot play real games because they can't afford consoles or $800 PC parts. The sad part is these "games" are always online, so it's a hellscape of DRM and a bunch of desperate fucks who want to play something on their $99 Chinese phones and 2012 unupgraded PCs (that lack Raytracing, something PS5 and Switch 2 have).

It's embarrassing to have gacha gambling installed. 3d worldie shit.

>>712536803 (OP)
no
this is all just sunken cost fallacy, people get roped into gacha like the niggercattle they are so they now feel the need to pretend like its actually a good game to justify their purchases to themselves

Limbus is the only good gacha game

>>712537997
You could live a happier and healthy life playing 1990s SNES/PC/Genesis games than this "game as a second job gacha" crap.

>>712537851
if you stripped the gacha monetization from gacha it would cease to be gacha. Not in the literal sense but in the sense that the gameplay systems would massively improve since it wouldnt be kneecapped by hyper predatory monetization and timegated content additions

>>712538245
>a cast of beautiful women who all openly lust for (you)
>you
jesus fucking christ these threads are really getting pathetic(more than they already were)

>>712537997
check the thread of this game in the catalog
it's always made by the same guy and then bumped every 30 minutes for days
mods don't do anything because they probably paid for that kind of advertising

>>712538790
idiots like him are the audience for these kinds of games, especially the ones where it's all female characters. They have absolutely zero fucking social skills so their only hope is gambling for pngs. The gambling even adds onto it because it makes them feel "earned"

>>712538245
You know h-games exist right games where you ACTUALLY fuck the girls, you know entire decades worth of self insert doujins exist right? They're even translated (you) have zero excuse

>>712536803 (OP)
no, next question

>>712539206
it's not about sex it's about knowing I have them

>>712539338
You have that too, stop gambling, play real vidya cut the middle man

>>712538790
whats weird is the best anime girls of all time were never lusting over the protag 24/7 and being blatent waifufag bait

>>712537851
>if you stripped the fun part they would be considered bad
no way

>>712536803 (OP)
No

>>712536803 (OP)
Nope.
Not MMOs either if we're being up front and honest here.

>>712536803 (OP)
>Brapophone
discarded

>>712539482
>Gacha
>fun

>>712538948
That's a pretty big jump to make. I just like having attractive anime girls on my screen.
In the past I'd be playing some slop made by Compile Heart. Fortunately we've really improved and now the quality of anime harems is far greater than I could have imagined back in like 2014.

>>712539550
CH is still better than gacha by virtue of being actual video games with real characters that aren't just for (you)

>>712537997
>Wuthering Waves silenced haters once and for all!
>Still keeps making videos about "haters" afterwards
Did he LIE?

>>712539550
I genuinely recommend you play real video games with real characters that aren't made to literally suck your dick

>/v/: Projection and GCJ talking points

>>712536803 (OP)
If this faggot is saying it’s good then it’s probably awful.

>>712539612
>>712539740
But I like that part...
Besides, what game(s) are you even trying to recommend?

>>712536803 (OP)
>nigger on kuro payroll
>glaze the game at every opportunity
oh geez who could have seen this

>>712539617
his monkey brained audience won't care, they're too busy doing daily quests

>>712540007
Literally play anything fucking else nigga

>>712536803 (OP)
I hate wuwa, genshit, TOF and every open world gacha ever including all the upcoming ones. Open world gachas suck

Yes, they CAN.

Genshin story was good until Fontaine, Wuwa story was good for 1.0-1.4.

I don't play gacha I just fap to the grills

>>712540345
now THIS is based behavior.

>>712540345
chad

>>712536803 (OP)
Nobody cares shin

they have a strong incentive to look pretty and create stiff competition to have the hottest anime bitches but that's about it. the gameplay is always dogshit.

>>712536803 (OP)
Blue Archive has the best story overall. If Nasu was the only writer FGO would be the best.

Gacha story is for giving roll currency so no I just skip.

>>712537997
Kuro shills unironically killed any potential at having wuwa community. People won't care about the fandom if the shills scare them away with constant persecution complex and ragebait fatigue.
Notice how even in other gachas hits you still see people posting memes, plot, some waifu discussion but wuwa is just
>2.0 was KINO!
but they never explain why not show the supposed kino moments
It's literally botted as fuck and all because their shills overdid it

>>712536803 (OP)
Yeah, just play the only good one.

>>712537851
No, it's the anime format. People love to discuss online events/story parts at the same time. It's like how Netflix anime discussion die because they dump the whole thing instead of letting people discuss it

>>712536803 (OP)
I like Blue Archive, Azur Lane, and Arknights.

>>712538805
>Shin has been bumping the thread for a whole day
Damn now that's just sad

>>712540916
It's almost been 2 days

grim, he shilled so hard he killed all interest in Wuwa

>>712540916
he does it every single day
our saving grace is that he probably gets paid only if the thread is made by him so he has to use tripcode, which makes it easy to filter him

>>712537851
>>712540847
modern society is vibes based and people have the attention span of goldfishes. No one has the patience and capacity to experience something finishedon their own anymore, they want quick bursts of "hype" content that gives them hours of shit to talk about with their friends. It's why weekly manga is fucking exploding currently and why every game has content updates - devs and artists figured out that it's way easier to keep your work in the public consciousness by publishing small bursts of content instead of releasing a finished work all at once into the ether. It makes people do your marketing for you by word of mouth.

It's shitty but it works. Just look at the 50 fucking Deltarune threads we get daily now because chapters 3 and 4 just came out

>>712536803 (OP)
only theoretical because chinks have spend billions on gacha games without a single worthwhile story and we arent even comparing it to actual stories in literature but video game stories which are quite a few steps lower
so its either chinks cant write for shit or gachas cant have a good story

>>712538805
Shin is just an obsessed idiot. I don't think he's paid for anything, but I do think a big reason that WuWa isn't really discussed on /v/ is because of Shin. Dude just spams the threads.

>>712540345
AI has gone WAY too fucking far. My brain is upset but my penis has never been happier.

>>712536803 (OP)
There's some good ones but they're almost unilaterally because the writing process is throwing two guys in a room and asking them to write down their personal neurosis using anime girls as a vector so they can be let out. The result is sometimes dogshit but sometimes a more unfiltered expression of someone's soul than you get out of most AA+ games.
The medium, however, is very prone to rewrites or lead writers either getting kicked off projects or getting so high off their supply the story becomes unintelligible. There's also general gacha tropes that a lot of games will fall into for the sake of the bottom line (ie every rollable woman is immediately and wholly trusting of you/the MC, evil characters who are rollable aren't allowed to be overly evil or it'd scare people into not rolling).

>>712541261
is that really AI? I used waifu2x to increase the resolution, but I can't tell

>>712536803 (OP)
BEHOLD!
The only gacha with a story worth playing through!

>>712541259
before wuwa he was obsessed with genshin but those threads were getting deleted by mods even when discussion was flowing naturally
now even when 80% of posts are him just bumping or talking to himself they never delete wuwa threads
it's definitely a paid campaign

Yes, Genshin Impact has a few good stories here and there but for some reason none of them are tied to playable characters.

>>712541379
It doesn't show up in iqdb so I assume it's AI.

>>712541446
How come wuwa never gained traction? Even limbus threads are more alive

>>712541431
>have a worse gacha system than actual gachas
how

>>712537496
always has been

>>712541379
It could be. The biggest hint is the some what messed up finger nails where one is merged into her finger and what looks like randomly exposed skin on one of her arms.

>>712537851
100% objectively correct
its also why you NEVER see gachafags compare their """games""" to actual game but always to other gachaslop
they cant compare to normal games because those have an actual main story and the gameplay is too complex to play on your fucking phone with 3 buttons

>>712541535
>one of the few times a video game made me cry
>she's just a side character that we'll never see again
>doesn't even have a unique model, just looks like a basic enemy
pain

>>712541565
most people just ignored it after seeing it's just a failed genshin clone
but genshin haters (that were previously latched to hsr) went all in on the genshin killer meme and now you have a small yet very obsessed fanbase

>>712541565
limbus is a real videogame

>>712540525
Lol

>>712540682
>le story is misery porn
Only 14 years old would enjoy edge-slop and spam autistic sperges about how squid game is the pinnacle of storytelling, bug people dramas aren't genuine their performative

>>712536918
Fpbp

>>712536803 (OP)
I can't take anyone who describes anything as "cinema" seriously, so their opinion is meaningless to me. Doubly so considering that the retard paid Elon for a pointless blue check.

>>712536803 (OP)
HOLY
FUCKING
SHIT
IS THAT
IS THAT FUCKING
MAN WITH X PREMIUM
POST EVERYTHING NOW
FOR FREEEEEEE
ADVERTISE AND MAKE HIM AD REVENEU
YEEEEEEEEEEEES

>>712541834
the entire story is literally about hope and how to evolve from trauma, but I wouldn't expect a gachagooner to have any sort of reading comprehension

>>712541565
Because wuwa marketers are obnoxious
>Oh hey how is this charact-
>ITS MUCH BETTER THAN GENSHIN ACTUALLY WE JUST DODGED A SNIPER WHO WAS TRYING TO KILL US AND HE WAS A GENSHINFAG WE ARE SUCH VICTIMS
This shit makes people leave. The sad thing is that all Kuro had to do is stop spamming shit marketers and write a better story instead of being full
>DEVS LISTENED
See the problem is that Yuri fandom is way noisier and so they think if they listen to those their game will be more popular. But the problem is that listening to 50 yurifags from X who live online will make you lose fujocels and normalfags who were okay with male characters interest. This is why kuro is always so frustrated since they want to pander to the noisiest fandom BUT also want genshin money. And that's not how it works
>They should add more males for wuwa!
I'm not saying that, but they obviously started like that and now they are in the worst of both worlds aka pander to none because you still have males but also others will find your gacha too girly now. It would have been different if this was like nikke or ba where you should never add a male unit since those are waifufags gachas

It doesn't help wuwa story relies too much on shut INS instructions, so every character feels the same or barely interact between them. Nikke, ba, arknights etc etc characters actually interact with other characters
Kinda similar with Snowbreak where the snowshills were constantly shilling that gacha in nikke threads proving without comparisons their gacha is forgotten.
If you need to rely in controversy with other gachas that means your gacha failed

>>712541829
They do have some funny moments

>>712542020
I remember how much yurifags brutally murdered dungeon meshi fandom and even harassed some poor girl artist for shipping the man with the women
Now it's half dead in twitter and even /a/

Is every single Patch in this game just a girl sucking the MC dick?

>>712541880
Gacha will never be a real game, you don't play real games you are a third-world gambler

>>712542092
Hi shin

>>712542119
that's every single patch in every single gacha game

>>712542119
they tried telling a story in first act and nobody understood shit, so they went the pandering route

>>712538397
game?

>>712540324
>Genshin story was good
More like its only good part was Natlan, Inazuma was utter shit, Lyue and Mondstadt were completely forgettable.

>>712540345
I play them to have context about the girls I fap to. Except Arknights but it has its own problems, mainly year 1~2 events were overly verbose for no valid reason.

>>712542228
It's way worse in wuthering

>>712542119
yes and thats a good thing

>>712542278
Arknights is such a sad case. Nikke and blue archive understood you need to keep it simple to engage people

>>712542215
don't mix up me with that faggot, faggot

>>712542423
Ok shin
Btw that design is a fucking mess

>>712536918
same actually
wish i could for genshin, it would be a lot more fun/ bearable

paimon should be erased from the game

>>712542439
if you look at the leaked character concept art you can clearly tell it was AI generated

>>712536803 (OP)
if you consider diablo immortal as gachaslop then yes,
because it utterly btfo's any writting from diablo 3 and beyond to be utter guttertrash,yes its a very predatory game but we are here about story and alone the interesting lore segment they have written in diablo immortal about zolton kulle is a backhand bitchslap to diablo 3 and 4

>>712542278
I get the context I need by lurking threads to collect pics

>>712542272
Limbus Company
it's actually genuinely good

>>712536803 (OP)
Gacha is slop
Fuck gacha niggers

>>712542631
No it fucking isn’t

>>712542689
compared to every other gacha game it's like at least 5 points above

>>712542357
It started getting way better on that front after the absolutely horrendous waste of time that was Near Light, now the text heavy events are at least extremely plot relevant and flow way better (Babel for example felt way shorter to read than Near Light despite supposedly having more words)..

>>712542670
it has that shovelware trademark aesthetic

>>712542679
remember when /v/ hated gacha? now over half the board and all of /vg/ are gacha gamers

>>712537361
you can't just say perchance

>>712542603
>AI bad
Retarded luddite

>>712542810
almost like /v/ is full of normies

>>712542631
>It's actually genuinely good
Then why does it look like it runs on mobile?

>>712542849
point to where my post say AI is bad retard, go on

>>712536803 (OP)
Installed this today and I just found myself being totally uninvested in the setting. Despite being a protag with no memory a whole lot of jargon is tossed at you without it meaning anything, which is a shame given the open-world.
At least I got the new footslut on my first ten roll.

Notice that seems to be a common trend with gachas like this. Star Rail is in outer space, yet it never feels like it.
ZZZ's setting is almost apocalyptic with most of the world wiped out to Hollows, but again it rarely feels like it. There's no sense of urgency to anything.

Why can these gachas never worldbuild right, or am I missing something critical here.

>>712542919
?
what does that have to do with the quality of the game?
it does run on phones but everyone plays on PC since it runs way better

volumes

>>712542980
it might have to do that you're playing slop for gooners. Writing is an afterthought or it's just an ad to make gooners more interested in rolling.

>>712536803 (OP)
>Can gacha games have good stories?
It's impossible for omnipandering gacha like wuwa or nuhoyo games. Anything pandering to normienigs will never ever have a good story because normietroon animals are inherently allergic to quality products.
The best stories in the industry belong to otaku games like BA and HI3.

>>712542854
>normies
>playing gachashit
lol

>>712542631
Gameplay is just watered down Library of Ruina for gacha purposes. At least it isn't an autobattler like some other gachas
>>712542919
Anon most of indie games could run on mobile if someone bothered to port them to phones for some reason

>>712542810
They stopped making good proper games

>>712542980
The start of WuWa is pretty much the worst part of the game. The story gets more interesting when Rover encounters Scar and just gets better from there.

>>712538280
It's the video game equivalent of a sitcom or a cop show. The story doesn't end, or really go anywhere, but the point isn't the progression of the plot, it's the situation the cast finds themselves in.

If you are going to have a mixed toilet game then you need mihoyo's marketing budget. Otherwise, just focus on a male or female audience only.

>>712542919
ALL OF THESE FUCKING GAMES RUN ON MOBILE YOU RETARD THAT'S HOW THEY MAKE MONEY IN CHINA

>>712537418
misery porn my beloved

>>712543169
stopped making good games because they realised there is more money in making shitty gachas

>>712542631
>it's actually genuinely good
no its not
>t. not a /vg/ nigger

My favorite gacha memes is how the story gets good after 100 hours of reading bad plot and how the gameplay gets fun after you roll for the rarest units

these wuwa showcase webms are literally jingling keys for retards

>>712543086
See I want to say its an afterthought but with these games its almost like too much writing. They love their wordsalad jargon it just gets in the way. Every NPC in Star Rail comes to you with an entire essay to say and I don't give a shit just gimme the fuckin' quest.
Like is anyone actually reading all of that shit.

>>712543173
It's a shame because that opening cutscene was very intriguing, then you're dropped in WuWa China and talked at for ages.

>>712538280
I mean it's the same excuse as mmo games like Wow where most new content only lasts as long as the current patch. A lot of people just want to be drip fed updates and new "temporary" content over the course of years

>>712536803 (OP)
They are mediocre anime at best

>>712543347
>See I want to say its an afterthought but with these games its almost like too much writing.
they need to have tons of words because that makes rerolling and skipping shit more annoying. none of it actually means anything

>>712536803 (OP)
>>712542914
>like her hair color and fangs, so I look her up
>named Lupa
>has a decently sized tail
>didn't give her nice wolf ears
what is this bullshit

>>712543427
they didn't give her a body full of fur and snout either. 0/10 meet me after class.

>faggot started posting random screenshots to shill the game
>it's only making things worst by annoying people
classic shin behavior

>>712543313
This but for FGO but the gameplay never gets good

>>712543267
>Fate Extra
>Disgaea
A shame what gacha as a genre has stolen from

>>712543551
Unfortunately after Part 1 the story too is pretty subpar.

>>712543551
FGOfags are probably the worst when it comes to
>but the story gets good 100 hours in for precisely one story section
and even then I hear an equal amount of other FGOfags tell me that's not true

>>712536803 (OP)
Yes they can. Problem is that I haven't heard of one actually concluding its story instead of being EoS'd and just being unfinished.

FGO has a chance to conclude the story soon now that Ordeal Call 4 was released and finally going back to Antarctica.

>>712543673
>>712543551
There's like three story sections that have a good story and none of them are good enough to warrant wasting a hundred hours "playing" the game
Anyone curious enough can just watch an youtube video

>>712543551
The devs would rather deal with age old spaghetti coding then overhaul the gameplay.

Act 4 was rough.
>Let's make a really cool ass gravity aqueduct around a cathedral
>Let's make the gravity mechanic the slowest most useless shit possible (hit F, wait for animation, click the direction you want, wait for animation, hit escape)
>Let's make it so that you're spending a minimum of 1 hour (I actually watched all the dialog and cutscenes cause I was enjoying the story) and upwards of 3 or 4 hours dragging ass through braindead puzzles and easy combat encounters you can't actually lose (HP can't drop below 1)
>Also, for the entire duration of this quest, you're locked out of using any of your gacha characters and are stuck with a trial version of the main character (meaning you can't level them up or change their gear in any way) in the form that does less damage even though it's not the most-recently-unlocked one just to make it take longer
The upsides were a great story and visuals.
Act 5 is starting out rough with a literal on-rails "parkour" segment, but I will hold judgement until I get to the rest of it.

>>712543551
fgo is the reason gacha will forever be known as casino slop non-games for phones

>>712537997
i block all of the cannels that put their face on the thumbnail

>>712536803 (OP)
Yeah, it's called Heaven Burns Red.

>>712538082
Anon, they mostly ARE the same girl.

I think any gacha series that has multiple pieces of supplementary reading material/manga with actual events or lore, like Limbus or HI3, can be a indicator of a gacha having a good story. I think that implies something like the creators having worldbuilding that may be related to the game's overall story and isn't meant to shill current units, though of course actual execution can vary.

>>712543302
You're right, it's excellent.
>t. not a /vg/ nigger either

>>712543016
>>712543153
>>712543219
>labelling anything available in mobile as actual games
Yeah, I think you /vg/ niggers really need to go back

>>712544212
HEY! Shattered pixel dungeon is bretty gud

>>712544212
Aka to blue is better than your favorite game

>>712543173
I thought they removes scar because now they want the nikke audience

>>712543123
Let me guess: you use the female to self insert

>>712544163
Gachas usually have interesting lore but atrocious storytelling for some reason.

>>712542603
That explains it, it lacks cohesion

>>712544253
I... b-but mobile aren't—! ... *sigh* ...okay, I concede. You won anon...

I enjoy the story in Star Rail. I have skipped every single piece of dialog in Wuwa because I do not care what so ever.

>>712544163
Actually it's just that Limbus has a defined set of main characters instead of just infinitely adding new characters as time goes on. This means they can actually write a fucking story on characters they have and have these characters develop as time goes on, instead of the usual slop of "WHO'S THE POKEMON WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY?"

>>712536803 (OP)
I'm enjoying nikke's story. More so than other gachas.

>>712543050
Aether is literally me. I dance like that (and save the nation 6 times over like that).

>>712543598
Was it really gacha? I'd say the outrage culture killed those games
>Release some weeb game
>Grifters OMG IT FUCKING FLOPPED LOOK AT STEAM NUMBERS WTF IT DIDN'T OUTSELL GTA OR COD!
Just check out any jrpg threads and it's just constant misery porn

>>712536803 (OP)
its a good intro to the new region but its not better than 2.2 not yet anyway until we see part 2 in 20 days

>>712543050
See shin? Without sperging about genshin nobody notices wuwa

>>712544930
>nikke's story
>post collabslop
Really anon? You couldn't just choose anything from the main story or do you actually noticed that the writings are shit?

>>712543050
>Cutscene vs obvious meme minigame
Desperate

>>712536803 (OP)
the world quest in Genshin are pretty good, it's actually hilarious to see the difference between them and the main quest

You are not part of the company.
Shilling it won't make the future content better.

>>712545217
Because they have more freedom with npcs since purity fags die if some female says hi to another male

>>712544581
post it

>>712545223
>Enter a thread meant to discuss stories in gacha
>Gets mad seeing post talking about stories in gachas
Why can't you accept that gacha games are apart of /v/?

Is it me or wuwa looks ugly as fuck

>>712544637
I accept your concension
now back to my huntress god run with a +10 sharpshooter ring

>>712545335
>he said that when Wanderer exist
nah, it's like comparing old CRPGs with nu-Bethesda RPGs, the lack of voice acting let's you focus on more consistent writing

>>712544515
gachas are akin to your 1000 chapter ongoing manga where for every 1 chapter of utterly kino writing there are 20 chapters for meandering nothing to pad reader engagement and weekly release schedule adherence
it will never be the case that this isnt how it is, because they need some mechanism by which to give the player gacha currency and shitty padding is how they do it

>>712544507
>self insert
not everyone is a mentally ill tourist
real stories have real protagonists with their own personalities you dont self insert into.

>>712545478
>post talking about stories in gachas
>712545492 >712544929 >712543937 >712543358 >712542993 >712542914 >712542670 >712542489 >712542092

>>712545335
That's because otakus used to be less autistic/troon in the past which is how fgo survived all those males and even servants being in a relationship between them

>gacha has 300+ characters
>somehow Im supposed to believe any of these can have a good story

>>712545672
But you just said Omnipandering, you obviously self insert or else you wouldn't care about normal storytelling

>>712545152
if all you get is a meme minigame for the saving the town then maybe it's a shit reward

>>712545781
in the case of genshin, there are literally only 2 characters with any depth that arent entirely one note
furina simply because the plot dictates her to be this way, and for some reason xiao
literally EVERYONE else is one note, one tone of voice, one personality trait

>>712536803 (OP)
dunno but they certainly can have good milkers

>>712545846
You are still comparing a minigame with a cutscene so your comparison is dishonest.
Its you the one who feels threatened by some minigame, that's how bad wuwa is then
Oh and if genshin showed some scene like that you would actually say
>Alchstually I play both!

>>712536803 (OP)
PGR and Limbus.

>>712546005
>if genshin showed some scene like that you would actually say
>if genshit were good you wouldn't say it's shit!
yeah

>>712546131
So you are saying you have some inferiority complex against a shit product?

>Using le mobile as an argument
Nigger this isnt 2005, my phone is better than your PC.

>>712546131
>Wuthering
>Good

>>712543427
She's not named after a wolf.

>>712540345
This, I started to recognize characters because of how often they show up in porn, but I won't ever play any of them. I tried genshin when it blew up years ago and it was absolute slop. I doubt any game of the genre is respectable

>>712543598
At least the fate extra remake is coming this year

>>712546479
The original was dogshit rock-paper-scissors and the remake doesn't look any better.

>>712543313
God i wonder what took Nasu so long to fix the writing format in early FGO. It was bad even during that time.

Still miffed most of the Part 1 servant interludes(before Camelot anyway) in early FGO were either too short or too fast or the writer didn't know anything about the character so they just gave them one dimensional personality.

>>712543354
>MMOs
I was never into those games exactly because of the same reason.
>>712543187
>sitcom or a cop show
And then suddenly ended with an abrupt ending when no one watches it anymore? So it's the same as when gacha gets EoS. That sure is satisfying.

>>712546356
ntr game

>>712546049
>DMC cameos
Trash
>Reddit company
Retarded

>WUWA IS MORE GENEROUS THAN HOYOSLOP
>anniversary was the same thing
>WUWA DOESN'T HAVE PWOERCREEP
>every new characters needs another character and is much better than old characters
yeah nigga, its the same shit, you were played like a fiddle

>>712546823
>WUWA IS MORE GENEROUS THAN HOYOSLOP
funny how silent they've been lately after screaming that shit for a whole year

No, this is not a free mobile game.
This a full price japanese game releasing this year on the current generation.

>>712543313
my favorite meme is
>BROOO THIS GACHA IS SO GENEROUS THEY KEEP GIVING FREE ROLLS, WE CAN BE F2P, THAT MEANS IT'S A GOOD GAME LET'S KEEP PLAYING IT
game? feels more like welfare office

>>712536803 (OP)
Nikke's got some great high points.

>>712543267
I bet the average gachafags played less than 50% of that list

>>712547315
more like drug dealer giving free samples until you are hooked and them they become full jew

>>712540117
If that pic is your recommendation, I'd rather play a gacha.

>>712540645
This is why I quit playing pgr, can't criticize shit without getting called a hoyonigger

>>712537419
He watched it on youtube

>>712536803 (OP)
>Can gacha games have good stories?
I wish i could know i dont even read the stories i just jerk off to the girls anon...

It makes sense that zoomers say the story was good when that's the only game they've played, they just don't know better.

>>712543267
For me it's the Wipeout games.

>>712547182
idk i started during the anniversary and i have 13 five star items in 120 hours of play

>>712536803 (OP)
Gacha stories are 90% "hype moments" with very little substance.

>>712547363
Nikke does it the best, though it's still not perfect. The story never overstays its welcome and it makes good use of the supporting cast, having them return in future chapters beyond their introduction. It saves side events for sillier stories or the obligatory new unit stories.

It just feels a bit tighter overall than most gacha.

>>712536803 (OP)
>Wuwa

That game where there is a cutscene about men who hire ROBOTIC LITTLE GIRLS?

>>712548469
Nikke is literally just a Nier automata clone

>gayshits seething and coping while baitfaggots yell their gacha shittakes from the side the thread

>>712544163
Hoyo can actually write lengthy stories the fans just hate it.
There was an infamous patch in Honkai Impact where they added a new endgame and from it you gain currency to unlock chapters of Novellas of characters. They added like a dozen Novellas in one patch that anointed to a pretty lengthy Novel. Of course people hated it because lmao you do all your weeklies and your reward isn't instant gratification but a book instead.

The reaction proved to them that they had to sacrifice length and quality for brevity that's often than not very clunky story telling

>>712545553
Nah it looks amazing
I just finished the questline that had you take pictures of around the new island and a lot of it was really pretty. On par with modern releases considered cutting edge

>>712536803 (OP)
Yes, gacha CAN have good stories but the actual good stories are the side stories that are either self-contained or are not taking things seriously. ..so no, the answer is pretty much no because every gacha must have a super serious story that will totally have a conclusion!

>>712546687
FGO was clearly a cash grab but fans stuck with it
Type moon saw the dedication of fans and dollar signs so they actually got their shit together. The same artists who drew those awful looking launch characters started making decently designed ones. Writers stopped throwing filler everywhere and actually focused more on plot.

>>712538948
Male audience literally only play Call of Duty (iOS/Android). What man play 3D gachas where you see long cutscenes?
The main audience are women, explain why gachas are afraid of showing underwear and having actual bikinis? Wuwa does the same shorts under skirt shit Genshin does

>>712548493
No it's not
It's the kind of fiction where you get shown cute girls who fight for humanity but get abused by the system.
You are meant to feel sympathy for the girls and hatred for the government

>>712548686
Oh, you mean Elysian Realm? I don't remember the initial reception to the game mode very well, but there's crystals from doing Deep Sequence as well as leveling up battlesuits in the gamemode, and if anything I would think people would like having a bunch of moderate to shorter conversations you can individually access instead of several super long ones that are forced.

>>712538505
On the other hand, America and western Europe can only play tranny games with black lesbians.

>>712543598
>Disgaea
Would have happened anyway. NIS suffered a serious drop in quality from the start of the PS3 onward.
It's Fate that truly suffers from its gacha being so successful.

Yes. Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail both have a few good side stories hiding behind the worthless fucking gutter shite that are their main scenarios.

genshitters and shart railers are all fujos and trannies who get assraped by Honor of Kings. so all they have left is seething at other gachas' success

>>712548686
Japanese games has supplementary material in books of Light novels, mangas, movies and anime series.

China has a complete lack a industry of mangas/comics, nobody read outside of the Little Red Book and nobody make movies or series using videogame characters, explain why the Hoyo's novellas, there arent other places for add more context or stories

>>712537851
Wrong
Library of Ruina has a gacha system but is a full game

>>712548493
Successor ;^)

>>712544985
And how is that different than any gacha threads, such as this one? or hell ANY new releases these days? All the Stellar Blade threads yesterday are ALL steam charts. Same as shit like Veilguard or whatever other new releases.

>>712549770
Did he consider that the lack of Nier content was probably a bigger reason?

>>712536803 (OP)
Can they? Yeah. Do they? lol

>>712540916
Okay, but how does that personally affect you?

>>712549981
Shin, it’s like seeing a guy on the side of the road, but he keeps getting in front of cars that try to pass trying to bum a ride. Or maybe like a toddler crying for attention.

That’s how pathetic you are when you keep bumping a single thread for over a day. Just let the thread die and go somewhere else to discuss the game since it’s not caught on here. I’d tell you to go to /vg/ but aren’t you hated over there too?

>>712536803 (OP)
No because the devs need to write story for every fotm gacha characters, which make all of them 1 dimensional footnote with no real personality
The ones trying to have good story usually have a set amount of characters with a bunch of alts, which directly go against the reason people play gacha - to collect varied characters, and even then they still fail because each of those alts need to have a story/reason behind their existence => story become a slopfest mess

>>712536803 (OP)
In general, no. And I say this as someone who has played at least a dozen gachas and keep several in daily rotation. Part of it is due to the nature of gacha, where it needs to keep introducing new characters and settings as long as the game is profitable which means the story can never actually meaningfully explore the majority of the characters and the itself needs to keep chugging along well after the writers have ran out of ideas, so there's less and less narrative cohesion.

Also I've long since accepted that tweet posts like this are almost always made by teens or fat dudes that have played less games and seen less movies then even the average 4channer so you can never take these things seriously.

Out of all the gachas I played, I'll say Limbus really is the only one that I would consider to have an actual decent story with narrative cohesion and that's mostly due to it restricting it's main cast to just 12-ish characters. heaven Burns Red gets an honorable mention but that game is really just a visual novel retooled into a gacha in order to survive the modern game industry.

>>712549506
>AI slop
Jeet post

>>712548396
>i started during the anniversary
Of course you did, you're a new player that started on the patch where kuro increased new player rewards.

>>712536803 (OP)
I enjoy WuWa but holy fuck there's nothing special about its story or its quests. Who are these fucking people? Have they never played any other games?

>>712547263
>Edens Zero
Nobody is buying this, post something actually decent like Code Vein 2

>>712536918
Absolutely beyond based
And that's coming from someone who doesn't skip

>>712549981
Because you ruin and report other gacha threads while yours is allowed

>>712549506
But shin, you spend all day seething at Genshin'a success while also being a troon

>>712536803 (OP)
Only if it has sexy women in it. FFXIV Dawntrail wouldn't have been controversial if Woke Lemutt was a sexy beautiful girl

>>712549506
So you are saying wuthering get raped by 3 different gachas then

>>712552606
Wuk should have been the catgirl from the raids.

>>712536803 (OP)
>brax "montelli"

a CC with good taste, who would've thought.

>>712552141
>there's nothing special about its story or its quests
There absolutely is though, with the main story at least. It's the presentation. It has actual cinematography and movement instead of just however many characters standing around talking.

>>712536803 (OP)
Ww girls look so boring

>>712552916
And on top of that, they're way too short!

>>712552907
And yet still nobody cares about it

>>712549770
Gacha games, not even once, case #22.

>>712552916
wuwa girls look appealing to me because they're the least gacha looking gacha girls around right now.

>>712553110
Do you have EYES JUNIOR?! Can you not even see Mount Tai? That looks like GenSHIT

>>712553082
That's because wuWa is boring even by gacha standards. Other gachas have visual novel format but the characters are at least entertaining

>>712553110
they look like genshin characters

>>712553082
Too many people care about it, and that's a problem. Kuro had turned greedy and scummy now that the game is no longer struggling. 2.0 was a blessing and a curse.

>>712553082
I care

>>712553110
>Still can't defend wuthering without constantly bringing genshin
See? Your inferiority complex speaks more about the game you shill than anything

>>712553110
>>712553186
Those are indeed mihoyo characters I posted.

>>712553110
Nta but I disagree and I'm saying this as someone who shits on HRS not China arc and the female designs sharing the same fucking dress.
Genshin not China design were a lot better and you could tell the themes about them (Opera, library, pirate, etc)
Wuthering waves have better graphics and models but the art direction is inferior imo

I like how a thread about gacha in general devolved into Kuro vs Hoyo

>>712553295
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST USE EXAMPLES FROM POPULAR GACHAS
I'm just trying to say a lot of other gacha characters are overdesigned.
>BUT WUWA
Wuwa also has some stinkers but as of 2.0, they've gotten better about character design.

>>712553465
For me ZZZ>>>>>Genshin>>>>HSR
Also the animation/visual novel helps a lot

>>712553465
>Wuthering waves have better graphics and models but the art direction is inferior imo
The only aspect of art I consider to be better in genshin is the environment. The vistas in genshin are much better than wuwa.

>>712553539
/v/ is firmly a pro-hoyo board ever since Covid and so any gacha games that directly competes against them causes these people to rabidly come out from the dredges to foam at the mouth. they mostly leave other gacha game threads alone though, games like Nikke and Snowbreak are not in direct competition with hoyo

Wuwafags really are like snowbreakfags constantly seething at Nikke success

>>712552907
That is true, they do put effort into its presentation which I appreciate.

>>712553685
Most mihoyo threads as well as other gacha threads get deleted while your wuwa bump threads are allowed, Shin.
Imagine trying to recruit other gachafags against YOUR competition
Oh and also that antigacha/ntr spammer is nowhere to be seen in your threads, curious

>>712536803 (OP)
Yea

>>712553221
This Anon gets it. Gacha games are at their peak when they're struggling but WuWa has enjoyed too much success recently.

>>712553685
>/v/ is firmly a pro-hoyo board
/v/ isn't pro anything, you NINGENS swarm here like flies on shit because GenSHIT was the big thing during lockdown and nothing else.

>>712553685
I'm guessing whenever Arknights Endfield comes out it's going to be a 3 way dick measuring contest between Hoyo, Kuro, and Hypergryph

>>712553685
Since when? They get instant deleted most of the time. BAfags have to hide as well before jannies discover us
>>712553914
Also this, wuwa is like the only gacha that is never deleted despite the obvious spam

>>712553914
>Most mihoyo threads as well as other gacha threads get deleted while your wuwa bump threads are allowed, Shin.
Is that actually true? I always see at least 1 genshin or zzz thread up on /v/ everyday, and GF2 threads up all the time

>>712553685
No need to project, shin.
>>712554160
That means jannies must be busy persecuting 14fags or other faggots
Limbus thread yesterday was autosaged

>>712554061
Best case scenario for Endfield is that it doesn't blow up and then doesn't have the army of mihoyo fanboys shitting up the community and discussion and game, and it finds a comfy niche spot like Arknights 1

>>712537418
>cute girls… but bad things happen!
Huge red flag

>>712552907
>It has actual cinematography and movement instead of just however many characters standing around talking

They stuck in a rigid pose and characters loop four animations with her arms. Meanwhile japanese AAA, $70 USD games prefer talking heads or simple JPG pictures

>>712554021
You are either delusional or being extremely disingenuous if you truly believe that /v/ doesn't have a strong pro-Hoyo lean

>>712553685
You can like mihoyo and other gachas too, shin

>>712553110
>>712553562
Maybe I should provide an example to give an idea of my taste.
Phoebe's design is probably my favorite. Fits the character and setting, not overly accessorized, easy on the eyes, and most importantly, very cute.

>>712554315
Not him but and? Just accept they are popular and stop crying, and this is coming from someone who prefers other gachas
>>712554337
He is clearly recruit posting, wait till he ruins Arknights threads hiding behind genshin or something

>>712554337
Of course and I do, that's why I think this rabid foaming at the mouth when wuwa is mentioned is silly. But I also know those same people are revenuefags that take personal interest in shitting on competitors and shilling their own game because they see the monthly sensor tower report as a measure of if their game that they put their time and investment in, is "winning"

>>712553914
>>712554440
>"recruit"
Now that's some next-level tribalistic gacha brainrot

>>712540645
What killed wuwa is the fucking name. It’s cursed to only attract clueless, ESL third worlders. “Wuwa” is fucking baby babble to any English speaker. It’s marketing suicide. The fact their entire community consists of retarded faggots gossiping over another gacha game is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Fucking “wuwa”, lmao

>>712554538
From my pov you are the same as well, seeing your threads being just shin bumping and removing his trips to larp as some mihoyo fanboy to try to keep the threads alive (casually shin bump stops here)

>>712554306
>They stuck in a rigid pose and characters loop four animations with her arms
I was actually going to mention wuwa uses a set of animations too, but blends them in with bespoke animations, like that animation lupa has where she sort of pumps her fist.

>>712554538
CC moment
Don't you need to create another ragebait content?

im going to recruit spam when she comes out for GF2

>>712554814
Maybe you should, you're raging for free. Try monetizing some of that pent-up anger

>recruit
What the fuck do you NINCOMPOOPS mean by this?

>>712536803 (OP)
They really need to make a gacha board. I'm tired of seeing anons shit on the multiple Fromsoft/BG3/E33 threads but say nothing when there's 10 different gacha threads in the catalog

>>712554934
It's a new term made up by people who hate games that compete with Mihoyo

>>712540645
I agree to this. Presentation and graphics are a looot better than GI and HSR, but it's marketing is 90% shitting and talking about those instead of their own gacha.
I don't see AKfags, PMfags or Nikkefags ever needing to constantly victimbait with mihoyo to talk about those gachas
I think kuro wants to make as much money as mihoyo and that's just delusional at this point, just find your own niche

>>712536803 (OP)
>Can gacha games have good stories?
Easily.

wuwa is the only gacha I've experienced that has continued to make significant improvements since it launched.
Kuro can still get fucked for turning into hoyo lite when it comes to greed though.

>>712554967
There is a gacha board >>>/vmg/ these niggas aren't forced to use it though LOL.

>>712554967
There is one. And then they torpedoed it on launch by saying it wasn't for gacha generals.

>>712536803 (OP)
This story wasn't even that good. Lupa was kind of bland and it ended half way through.
1.3 and 2.2 are still the peak

>>712554967
Those are tendies and they shitpost gacha threads too because their marketing threads are buried by Lune feets, Gus memes, Eve ass threads, new popular indie threads, and gachafags discussing the new arc/waifu from their gacha

>>712555247
Of course the e33 jeet is deflecting on to eastern media, kill yourself

>>712555312
>Nintendie jeet trying to ally with gachafags now
LMAO

>>712536803 (OP)
Verbose re m ! n de r

>>712555121
>it's marketing
The reason wuwa is better than hoyo's slop is because they reinvest more. That's why wuwa can make far less but but much higher quality. Because their idea of marketing is selling shit like buttons and acrylic standees.

>>712555413
>>712555312
>>712555247
I'd rather all of you just kill yourselves now. Same level of retarded schizo shit as the nu/dbs/ threads on /a/

>>712555003
Which games compete with mihoyo?

>>712554834
Thanks Vbuts

>>712555568
AAA gacha - As an example, Neverness to Everness, Ananta, Azur Promilia are all going to get brutally slandered when they released and will be the new whipping boys.

>>712554281
This. It’s fine to dabble in serious topics now and again, but when cutesy bubbly anime girls are constantly trying to look “cool” or navigate through trauma I check out.

>>712555236
>1.3
lol the black shores was squandered potential. A good premise ruined by weak writing. They should've saved it for the post 2.0 engoodening.

>>712537997
Been playing the game myself. It has stunning vistas, even if the classic Chinese MO is clearly visible throughout it. Still, nice game and the battles can be fun.

>>712542980
Because the devs are gachadevs first, and vidya devs second and it shows. The structure of 42 days gacha will lead to fragmented narrative = ruined immersion.
You need a real vidya dev to popularize gacha field with a new game model.

>>712555702
NTE competition if anything is against Ananta, and Azur Promilia would be against pokemon likes

>>712536803 (OP)
2.4 released with a whole new continent around the same size as 2.0. How the fuck did they just go and do that. I didn't expect anything big until 3.0

>defending gachas
/v/ really is overrun with third worlders

>>712555886
kuro has something like 200 employees, don't they? I'm sure they had a few people working on the map for a little while now.

>>712555702
Dude you are pretending that the 2 GTA wannabes aren't going to have to survive against the other, there is a reason they are constantly compared

>>712555943
No, gacha got really big in the last decade due to MMORPGs bleeding players. FFXIV for example, held the mantle as the top MMO like 6 years ago but they stopped trying to compete and have been bleeding players to gacha because they hit the same reward circuits of giving players that want dailies, weeklies, and constant updates (2-3 week updates on average versus 5-6 months for an update)

>>712554281
I just want to draw cute girls who suffer...

>>712555702
Azur Promilia is literally being attacked by ALfags. Not everything is against your nemesis mihoyo, shin

>>712555943
I don't know about anyone else but I play gachaslop for the cute girls and male pandering. I don't have to spend a dime to enjoy that in wuwa. At least until kuro starts selling (you) pandering.

>>712537418
Oh my science... So heckin depressing and sad!

>>712556138
IIRC shin loves zzz.

>>712555943
Times change, grandpa. Gacha is no longer limited to mobile. They have dedicated PC clients and they are reaching AAA quality.

>>712539482
>gambling is fun
gacha xisters...

>>712556110
dont

>>712556138
Kurofags projecting onto other gachas as if other gachafags should give a shit about mihoyo

>>712555767
You only get 0.2 rupees for that post saar. Praise it more and you will redeem more.

>>712556274
But it's one of my fetishes...

>>712556173
>nah dood my game's story is totally good
>look inside
>it's just tragedy wank

>>712548970
I like when my videogames are art instead of products meant to sell to a gender specific audience, which is why I don't play gachashit like this

>>712556287
Whatever you say mihomofag

>>712556321
it makes me have the same feeling as seeing children suffer, even though they aren't real.

>NOOO I ONLY WANT WHOLESOME BIG CHUNGUS BING BING WAHOO

We need more male pandering
I want meursault to sit on my face

>>712556287
I actually liked the more muted colors of CBT wuwa
>kuro adds filters and color settings so players can adjust the visuals to their liking
HOLY!
DEVS LISTENED!

>>712556417
zelda invented the bow and arrow!!!

>>712556452

>>712556417
>It really was a mindbroken botwfag
Holy KEK
Btw botw copied Ubisoft and shadow of the colossus

>>712556382
>I like when my videogames are art
kekw
how old are you? I got over my GAMES ARE ART FOR REAL phase before I even left my teens.

>>712556417
Bruh

>>712556417
Even now, the best gacha has to offer are just copying real games, but not as good.

>>712556579
he loves being ridiculed online

>>712556807
But botw copied other games and was mogged by genshin and Elden ring

>>712553110
meanwhile, Limbus Company female character design (i.e. REAL character design, instead of a bunch of retarded clothing that communicates nothing about the character and has a bunch of needless details that mean literally fucking nothing. And exposed armpits or shoulders for some fucking reason)

>>712556854
So wuwafags are just botwfags still wanting some kind of revenge? Holy shit, this guy would shit on wuwa if wuwa copied botw first KEK

>>712556862
They look so much better than wuwa messed designs

>/v/ is NOT a pro-genshin/hoyo board!

KEKAROO

>>712556858
>botw copied other games
The difference between real games and gacha games is, real games take elements of other games to add to their own vision. Gacha just copies wholesale but tweaks the concept just enough so that it's accessible for moblie players.

>>712546356
>>712536803 (OP)
Cuck game

/v/ is a ProjectMoon board.

>>712536803 (OP)

>>712556862
Put the new meursault. Dude looks amazing, his moves as well.

>>712556862
i wish ahabmael wasn't ass

Hoyoniggers lost.

>>712557060
>Zeldafag trying to drag others to his trauma
Lmao
>>712557115
Also this
Fuck the janny (aka another Zeldatroon)

>>712557115
ssshh. not so loud

>>712556862
>clothing that communicates nothing about the character and has a bunch of needless details that mean literally fucking nothing
Pretty much encapsulates my feelings on gacha character design as well.
>exposed armpits or shoulders for some fucking reason
This is very important though.

>>712557182
>Immediately remove any elden ring/Zelda comparison threads
Keked

>>712557182
The absolute state of Genshin. Why do Genshin players put up with that lazy shit? Hoyo can afford stuff like WuWa does ten times over.

>>712556862
Is this a LARP? These designs look absolutely atrocious. Those heads in the bottom 2 designs look like they were pasted onto the bodies, they dont' even fit

>>712536803 (OP)
They can start good and even be so for a time, but given the never ending corporate nature of it, they'll all inevitably become bloated zombies. Especially when running long enough to have a bunch of different writers or some of the original creatives leave.

Quite often you can pinpoint the exact moment in the story where it becomes obvious it wasn't part of the original vision and the narrative was written after the initial production.

>>712536803 (OP)
sure but they have to be written by actual writers

HBR is written by Jun Maeda (Clannad, Angel Beats)

>>712538505
>and parts of Europe cannot play real games because they can't afford consoles or $800 PC parts
You can play a ton of shitty PC games on a PC worth less than that single part, there's a reason slavjank is a thing

>>712557182
now that's an actual humiliation ritual

>>712557335
Every character repeats the same fucking gag over and over and over and over. Yukki is specially obnoxious overreacting at fucking everything

>>712536803 (OP)
Kuroshill keep spamming peak but they never post memorable part of the story or what the characters personality other than simping for rover
i feel like all the toxic hoyo community move to wuwa just to shit on hoyo
its like having a date and all you talk about is your ex

>>712557321
That point is usually when they just turn into "character of the month" stories crafted just to push the newest character they are selling. It's happening to WuWa right now.

>>712557182
oh no no no no genshin bros look away

>>712557182
So botw/totk are losing against TWO gachas now?

>>712557182
i kneel wuwa god

>>712557412
It's mostly Zeldafags with ptsd
>>712556854

>>712557412
>i feel like all the toxic hoyo community move to wuwa just to shit on hoyo
Its falseflaggers that keep coming to these threads and bringing up genshin/hoyo. They self-insert themselves and force these conversations and then turn around and go SEEE THEY CAN'T STOP TALKING OR THINKING ABOUT US

Gachashits are the /dbs/fags of /v/

>>712557182
Wuwon.

>>712557564
NIGGA THAT'S NUTS

Canto 8 was better tbdesu

>>712557182
mihomo bros, how do we cope?

If the Mihoyo tribe could get over its arrogance and anger and come together with the gacha community as a whole, we could have a strong united front and make gacha even more mainstream that it already has. Any other game genre celebrates reiterations of past games. People welcome more "soulslikes", they don't scream about copies like angry retarded apes.

>>712557175
I was focusing on the female characters for that one, but the male characters have huge drip too
>>712557218
I believe the intention for designs like that is because they want to convey "depth" without having any actual depth or meaning anything.
>>712557306
kys

>>712557681
was that ever in question?

>>712557462
>>712557539
Imagine having to samefag

>>712557729
Because they want to play new games but people pledge allegiance to their chosen game and don't want to play any others

>>712557182
lol is genshin really this bad?

>>712537997
>People never shill any other gacha ever
The absolute state of whoever you guys are.

>>712557768
>>712556862
People genuinely play hoyoslop and wuwa instead of this?

>>712557182
it's official
wuwa > genshit

>>712557560
Isn't that what kurofags do
I mean look at their CCs content

gonna s6r5 this slampig

>>712557681
Confucius was not what I expected after his intro in the sweeper event, he turned into one of my favourite characters.

>>712557182
OH NONONONONO HAHAHAH

>>712557182
i used to love genshin but i can't defend this

>>712557924
Those drama CCs are purely profit driven. Stoking the flames of discourse is their main goal.

>>712557931
based

>>712557182
wuwa just does it better

>>712552054
>Moving the goal post
Just play your supposed fun and generous game with good odds only on anniversaries.

>>712557182
This samefagging reminds me of the schizo in stellar blade

>>712557182
lmao genshit btfo

>>712557564
/dbs/pics can be funny
gachafags are just horny cucks

>pretending to not like this
Must take an obscene amount of spite

>>712558084
>>712558153
>1 minute

>>712557182
>reply is 1minute apart
is this the only good cutscene from wuwa cause i have never seen anything else

>>712557182
sister shin won

>>712558265
I like my goon with actual fucking taste

For me, it's Evelyn and Kafka

>>712558425
>evelyn
shitty yuribait

>>712558425
I'm saving for Fufu and magical girls but the npcs are really cute too

>>712558425
For me its Burnice

>>712558548
>kafka
discount yelan

>>712558548
We need more Makimas

>>712557182
I wonder if after getting all the archons they will make a part 2 with improvements like they did with honkai impact 3

>>712537361
Worse. At least in TES you have a good amount of gameplay between geting extremely bored.

>>712542714
so its 6-7/100 points?

I do not like genshin but I can appreciate Escoffier

>>712558758
Lantern did it first

>>712556417
Damn this Tendie really been holding a grudge for the last 5 years

>>712559002
replace GFL with Nikke and it's true

>>712559085
Genshin characters are just cuter
>But graphics
Well look at pokemon
Speaking of pokemon thoughts on Honkai Pokemon?

>>712557182
>Top
Cutscene
>Bottom
Gameplay you can fail and it changes the story
Yeah Genshin is better.

>>712536803 (OP)
Heres the fact: most gacha retards mostly play gacha games. They have no idea how contrived and derivative gacha game stories are. The two games that have the best written stories, Arknights and Limbus company, both suffer from heavy bloat and incompetency. All hojoverse stories are just some random noise copied straight from anime. Don't listen to gacha retards, don't take the bait, or you have to suffer like I did. Play actual visual novels, you can find many recommendations. These days you can't find any threads and you all have fallen into degenaracy. I hate you all.

>>712555943
The other replies you got so far only cement that. Every time you enter one of those threads, it's always about the goon and the "whoever laughs last, laughs loudest" mentality when cross-gacha fanbase retardation happens, until bump/image limit is hit (or both).

>>712559085
Genshin’s design has become abhorrent, I got severe whiplash seeing Albedo next to Escoffier. Mihoyo have become like MMO “vanity” losers that feel the need to cover every square inch of their character with some sort of trinket or emblem. This may genuinely be the worst designed character I’ve ever seen.

>>712559367
>Heres the fact: most gacha retards mostly play gacha games
False

>>712537418
>Latest story event completely undermines this and Doro by injecting Marvel Humour into everything to undercut every joke
Sucks shit.

>>712559268
Fuck your moncolle slop, I miss ReArise

>wanted to pull for not!Squall because I'm a huge Squallfag
>Has bara tits
Bros.....

>>712558809
who is the one in the middle?

>>712559484
In what world does that remotely resemble Squall?

>>712559128
Considering Kafka would have been in the first promos and few betas for Star Rail, not quite.

>>712559485
Xianhua from Another Eden

>>712559547
I think he means the personality

>>712558758
>Discount
mf genshin potatoes look like funko pops compared to other characters, it doesn't get more discount than that

>>712559802
God I hate gfl2 names, they are so ugly

are pedo archive players the only ones that don't indulge in shit throwing against other gachas?

>>712559387
I think the lowest mihoyo designs became was during luofo in hsr
Zzz are good though

>>712559950
ZZZ is good, I agree. Let’s hope it lasts.

>>712556862
Simple but recognizable is always better than over complicated and busy.

>>712559950
I miss their female designer

>>712559950
>she uses a rifle so let's call her uhh... trigger
>she's called trigger so let's put uhh... trigger on her outfit
BRAVO DAWEI

>>712559002
Genshin and BA do actually have fantastic OSTs

>>712559484
The damage the loud social media fagslop audience did to these games really can't be overstated. You can't just have cool male characters anymore, they all need to double as fujobait. It's funny every time considering how loud they screech about the female characters and then these characters are just the same rotating three flavors of deviantart tumblr oc.

>>712537851
now say it without crying

>>712559950
Yeah, the planet was also really ugly.
>>712560249
I feel like ZZZ trick is to be closer to Honkai Gakuen designs aka not being too complicated
Also not every design needs the pits meme

i think wuwa need to copy tof
every map have different exploration and puzzle

>>712536918
FGO skip Chad...
I KNEEL

>>712560495
Yeah Liyue girls felt unique while also obviously belonging to China

>>712559950
Zzz team has more passion, it's amazing how much better HSR could be being turn based and using VN format, you can tell the models differences here

I've had so many people tell me BA's story is great and holy shit it's awful.

Vol 3 is the only good story and even that has issues. I swear that game's rep for having a good story is carried entirely off that one story arc and all the fans just have sunk cost squeezing them with a death grip.

>>712559894
Everyone shits on them so yea

>>712559484
Why does hoyoshit have so many fags?

>>712560934
They are still cute but yeah they are really lazy

It's funny how the chink games are all fighting with each other while i enjoy my japanese nasukino.

>>712559894
They definitely do it too.

Is it just me? Or are the black haired girls the worst? I can't stand YangYang or that artist girl

>>712560495
ZZZ benefits from the setting grounding characters more towards actual IRL fashion (street/techware, biker/punk leather, actual uniforms and suits) rather than Genshin and HSR which goes so far into fantasy designs that outfits just wind up looking like the same angled dresses and embroidered clothing.

>>712536803 (OP)
>Can gacha games have good stories?
In my opinion no.
Gacha games function by virtue of convincing the player to spend entire time or money on the gacha girls, which in turn requires you to have a cast of girls (or guys if it's a gacha for women) that's entirely player sexual, while the player character has no defining characteristics in order to facilitate self inserting. Without necessarily getting into the good or bad of this from a moral stand point, this is the business model gachas NEED to follow to make money and those that don't do this almost always fail. Even Genshin despite all the big talk still does it to a huge extend.
So with that considered, narratively speaking that greatly limits both your main character (who is the player in this case) and most of the other characters present, and creates bad characterization and bad story.

>>712561409
People became too sensitive, everything must be pandering

>>712560934
The guy to the left is exactly what I said here >>712559387

>>712555702
I don't think those can compete with genshin anymore, like they said, they are mostly fighting against all the new gachas. This is because after seeing genshin becoming that big most of these started development almost at the same time after covid. Here is another one
https://youtu.be/OQOKJPUpwYc?si=ca42SIOD1Ifsdaaq

>>712561551
I mean to get more into it, it's the gacha companies and devs fault. They cultivated this audience and this relationship with said audience by trying to appeal to certain aspects of the human condition in order to make money (companionship and other such things)
It's the same thing as vtumors pretending to be cute 2D waifus and then being shocked when their primarily male audience gets pissed at them having a boyfriend. What the fuck did you expect, you cultivated this fucking ambient.
Gachas are just a bad fucking game genre. And while I don't blame them directly for this, it's also created this fucking argument in anti-sex schizos that fanservice (primarily male aimed) an only existed in this lesser games. Look what happens when a game like Stellar Blade that's unapologetic about the fanservice comes out.
All in all, gachas have harmed this industry in huge fucking ways but I'm also reticent to just control it since I don't want people telling me how to spend my money, so I can't tell others how they spend theirs.

>>712561760
That one isn't from genshin and imo Blade looks simple and good enough

>skip all story
>get SSR/5 star meta waifua
>get lewd costum
>do dailies
>turn off
>post to show off and shit on everybody
>repeat

>>712546356
to be honest, being cucked is a tradition of Romans, no one would care so much, just read about the daughter of Augustus or the wife of Justinian...

>>712561984
Imo the world became too shit and people's lives so bad they became more aggressive. I'm old enough to remember the old internet days and save a few autists people used to touch grass. The irony is that these new nu otakus are the ones being the most censorship by limiting writers creative freedom, not even Naruto/Bleach shipping war shit was THIS bad.
Just check out at all those calling anyone homo or screaming like Flanders if they see some male. Like, you can have guys pulling for a guy because he looks cool and that's it, he is not sucking cocks.
>Gacha should be like this!
Gacha is already shit but I don't see why can't different genres coexist. If someone wants to make a gacha where characters kill others or go full telenovela why can't he do it? Just play a different gacha that adapts to your tastes. At this rate everything even anime must be Isekai shit or else nu otakus will cry.

I am going to fuck this cube

>>712562369
The thing is that the statement
>gachas should be like this
Isn't wrong, and I agree. If these publishers and developers are going to create games that rely on those human emotions to make money then sure as shit they should fucking deliver on what they're payed to do
The characters in a gacha all should be into (you) and (you) alone. No side relationships of the sort. That's what the player is paying for, that's what's being sold. To deliver on anything else is absolutely anti consumer.
Now do I like that this is the case? No, but the option is to end gachas as a genre. Until that happens, gachas better deliver on what they're advertising, which is a cast of hot characters that are into (you).

So is Snezhaya based on Russia or what

>Skipped Ciaconna for Carthetyia
>Cia is almost required for Carty
Solon... why...you were doing so good before this matched pair shit...

FUFU!

>>712562656
Vapid nonsense for women and homos
.

>>712559547
He appeared in the teaser using what it looked like a gunblade but you could only see his back

>>712560546
Damn tof looks different now. Is it even worth playing still or is it EoS?

>>712563149
Looks more like the FFXIV Gunbreaker from behind, sword looks like Sol Badguy's Fireseal

>>712562656
I managed to get her, now waiting for Saber

>>712563349
Yeah that's why I said teaser, it wasn't too clear at first and yes he is obviously Sol inspired

I want Sampo and Meursault to rape me

>>712562929
Bro. Everyone knew that if you didn't roll Cia that your Carty was going to be subpar.

>>712536803 (OP)
yea

everyone is skipping this

>>712563342
Its decent if you want some unique open world gacha rn
theyre gonna release a slightly naked character that have similar AoT manuver in a few weeks

So all the new games coming out will have stage-trained Brits voice acting, right? All the fag-aftra amerifats are getting replaced?

https://youtu.be/fl1eCBtTBfg

>>712536803 (OP)
Why not just watch the story on YouTube and get hundreds of extra hours to spend on good single player games instead? That is what I do with Nikke

>>712561896
>Wuwa killer
If this ones becomes bigger I can see shin doing damage control saying he plays both kek

Dorozone is pure kino.

>>712555702
NTE is likely going to be dead in the water because the developers stated that the game will have no (You) pandering stuff while Ananta seems like it will have stuff like hanging out with the characters/dates. NTE is also from the TOF devs so I feel like that game already had a up hill battle.

>>712555702
Noe hates Promilia more than azur lane fags

>>712564680
So NTE will actually be interesting?

>>712564680
>Those designs
Holy shit

>>712564946
>Skia
I thought furries were supposed to look "attractive"?

>>712564680
>no (You) pandering
DOA