>you literally farm karma
reddit game
>>712635164>you literally farm karmaindian game
Looks quite good. Love the drill.
>>712635537my kind of game then
>>712635195I'm already tired of the same beheading animation in 2 webms.
I dunno, doesnt really look like ninja gaide to me
>>712635083 (OP)Why couldnโt we just have Ryu again instead of this newfag?
>>712635083 (OP)>staff weapon is in the game but doesn't have a deluxe edition skinryu will have more than 1 weapon bros, do we dare cope?
>>712635083 (OP)>rocket spam from ledges againwhy do they keep doing this? are they retarded?
>>712635083 (OP)>rocket spam from ledges againbased shitters will get filtered again
>press button to awesome
I'll pass
>>712637108>press button to awesomeyou mean a videogame?
>>712637278No, I mean the invulnerable, multi-hitting finishers you do by hitting one button
shit's boring
>>712635130Looks cool. But I've always been a bigger fan of Platinum than Ninja Gaiden anyway.
>replace ryu
it will be shit
>>712635083 (OP)>[Obliteration of Soulsshit intensifies]October can't come soon enough
>>712638553He is in the game retard
>>712635083 (OP)the enemy design looks pathetic and the blood looks worse than NG2.
too much yakumo gameplay its a big red flag
>>712638610he is in the game as dante was in dmc4 but dante got his trademark switch style, here ryu its gonna be 3 vanilla again
>>712635745 i dont believe until gameplay its posted
>>712635654shadowrunner 4: ligmaballs
Hate finishers. Just give me a robust moveset. If the moveset lacks spectacle on its own then maybe it was shit from the start
>>712635710retard devs think everyone will loose interest cause the mc its from +3 older games even tho ryu doesnt have kiryu backstory of previous games besides being the mc
>>712639375>robust moveset>spectacleGo back
>>712635265>stagger cancer its in the game
I'll never understand the appeal of Ninja Gaiden. The gameplay just looks so button mashy but without the style system of DMC that actually makes going out of your way to use all the combat options interesting.
>>712639893gameplay its using the most op safe moves such as walljump attack until it rng headshot or air suplex even in the "best game" (explosive shurikens 2)
>>712639521You're really showcasing your ability to infer information champ. But I shouldn't expect anything from someone whose only capable of regurgitation.
>enemies politely wait their turn
>>712635083 (OP)>>712635130Looks pretty good. You guys are doomsaying, partypooping, tortanicposting, shazamcoping killjoys.
>>712640219He's playing on easy. Though they still do that in NG 2 even on MN
>>712639893Button mashing will get you killed, slowing down and being deliberate with your actions is necessary. Then you can play faster from there.
>>712635083 (OP)have they shown a single environment that doesnt look like procedurally generated nonsense?
Great this game as a resident thread schizo so I guess discussion will be impossible forever
>>712640359And it's even worse in 3.
>>712640452But where's the "fun" aspect? DMC is fun because aiming for the style rank is engaging and Bayonetta also has it. What am I aiming for that gives meaning to all the fancy tricks I have access to make them worth using beyond simply "not dying"?
>>712635083 (OP)These environments feel like they were made for a roguelike.
>>712640936Survival is fun when the enemies are an actual threat. I don't care about combofaggotry.
>>712639137Ryu gets to switch weapons in NG4.
>>712640936Karma is your score which is how much currency you get for upgrades. Most of the attacks are worthwhile due to the timing windows and staggers.
>>712635164>>712635392Should've called it aura.
>>712635745It's there in the form of the hammer, the weapon itself is called rod now. Both modes were shown in the same nightclub level and the shaft looks identical.
The cope is that Ryu was seen wielding the scythe in the dev vid and in the same vid you could see Yakumo with staff. BOTA being the only skin also makes sense.
>>712635083 (OP)I don't like the aesthetics and art style.
The combat does look like NG but something is off with the animations.
It's like they took NG and shove it into UE5 and call it a day, it doesn't look and feel right.
>>712640936Why do you post like this when you know nothing about the game?
>>712640936Bayonetta's score system doesn't encourage shit. There is no reward for combo variety, it only punishes some high damage tools like durga bombs.
Pretty much the entire game can be plat'd with PPKKK.
As for NG, it has the unique property where almost every single move has some niche utility. In NGB on VH+ you end up naturally using every single weapon cuz of that.
>>712638610Old man Ryu will die a tragic, yet heroic death.
>>712641993>He thinks Team Ninja will allow the face of their Studio to dieLegitimately retarded.
>>712641797should've been obvious since he's a discord nigger too
is there any reason why team ninja can't make ninja gaiden themselves? im not against this or anything but it just seems kind of weird considering they're still making action games
>>712641095Sure but that sounds like it would get repetitive quickly.
>>712641367What can you get with the upgrades?
>>712641693>why do you ask a question about the game enquiring about it's systems when you don't know about the gameAm I supposed to ask questions about things I already know? The fuck are you talking about dude? My initial post wasn't rhetorical man. I was genuinely asking what the appeal was because without those added layers that DMC has I don't really understand what's supposed to be extra engaging about it but it visually looks kinda cool so I'm interested but I don't have quite enough to convince me to try it out.
>>712641968Eh I guess. People said the same thing about Nioh but I ended up just not using most of it's mechanics cause I didn't really find using them to be worth the effort. I should say I generally don't like super combo heavy games where you're playing DDR on your controller with a trillion different inputs. I much prefer games like Sekiro that are incredibly simple but focus on reaction.
>>712642224kek have you seen the last 5 ninja gaidens they've made? they're all garbage lmao
>>712642283>What can you get with the upgrades?weapon upgrades for more combos
health upgrades
magic upgrades
health restoration items
>>712641367 The karma system is solid in theory, yeah, but the problem is they never really tuned the rewards properly. You end up either hoarding points for upgrades or blowing them early on utility stuff, which kinda kills the motive to style. The combat itself is deep as hell thoughโthings like On Landing Cancels and essence manipulation give mechanical spice if youโre into that. It's just that unlike DMC, there's no audience watching your combo reel, you're styling for survival and mastery, not a letter grade.
>>712635083 (OP)Unironically way too much blood.
A real ninja would never make his kills so messy.
>>712642150I've got a cool avatar deco btw :3
>>712642385Nioh 1, Nioh 2, Chinese Nioh, Rise of Nioh and Stranger of Nioh
>>712642224>S teamWL 2
>A teamRotR 2
>B teamNioh 3
>>712635710Modern audience and woman "artist".
>>712642132I think TN is legitimately retarded, to greenlight this shitty new character is an act of pure retardness.
>>712642224Because they don't give a shit about Ninja Gaiden anymore and it's not like the IP prints money so why would they bother? Financially they're better off making Nioh 3 or gambling on something new to see if it takes off.
>>712635710because crapcum proved you can replace the main character of a franchise with a shit character. while ruining the main character, and retards will eat it up
>>712642763He'll get like 1/3 screentime and will likely be killed off or retire in the end to make room for the zesty OC donut steel Yakuhomo to become the new MC.
>>712642713she's a real artist and she's really cute
>>712642283>I came to a thread about games I know nothing about and have no interest to compare them dishonestlykill all sekirofags
>>712641679The animations look magnetized, weightless with no strengh.
>>712643031first day here?
>>712642401So basically like DMC
>>712643031I literally said in that post that I was curious about the game you illiterate ape. I mainly talked about DMC since it's similar but I don't think I'd really say that I really like DMC either. I don't really like these kind of action games that much but if you only retards limit themselves in what games they're willing to try out.
>>712643149You too
>>712642283>I generally don't like super combo heavy gamesNG isn't combo heavy. Cancel options are fairly limited and the dial combo lists are honestly pretty slim (but displayed horribly in the ingame menus)
>>712642438I'd actually say NGB essence economy is pretty good. so long as you make use of UTs, you'll usually be able to afford all upgrades and some heals. Ironically the higher difficulties are easier in that regard cuz the increased essence from enemies is way higher than the costs.
>>712643026She is a talentless cunt with no taste.
She should make anime games for faggots and fucking cunts like her, but not touch games that are supposed to be cool, it doesn't work.
>>712643351That's reassuring. Would you recommend the newer remake that came out recently? Probably would be better to try out a game for cheaper than jumping in the newest entry when I'm unsure.
>>712643362Go back to your reddit hug box you whiney faggot
>>712642570>B team on Nioh because they've pretty much got the formula for that one down and can plug it into a slop conveyor>A team on Wo Long 2 because they want to fix all the mistakes of the prequel and redeem the franchise and turn it into the best game in the parry slop genreCould such a thing be possible?
>get a big "!" symbol on your character when an enemy is targeting you with an attack
i fucking hate modern game design so much
>>712643562please understand
a broarder audience
>>712643548I hope so. Wo Long is probably the weakest of their Nioh adjacent games but it could be so much better if they actually polished it.
>>712643031Heโs right though, action games will never match up to Sekiro if they just keep focusing on combos
Will Ryu's original snow bunny make a return?
>>712643682wolong is their only good game
>>712643267>since it's similarthey're really nothing alike, only thing they share is being 3D hack'n'slashers.
>>712643501Honestly I think all iterations of NG2 are trash. Just play NGB/NG Sigma.
>>712635083 (OP)I would have bought day one if Ryu was still the MC. For this reason alone, I will pirate it and enjoy it for free. Everything looks good except for the new MC. Granted this was in development before DEI shit started being rolled back, lets see if they learn their lesson.
>>712643912>>712643783God, I hate platinum designs.
>>712643775Wo Long is the Dark Souls 2 of Team Ninja and Wo Long fans are the contrarians
>>712643823>they're really nothing alike, only thing they share is being 3D hack'n'slashers.Well I'm a casual that has literally only played DMC5 to completion and dropped Bayonetta like 4 hours in so I have no idea really. I just generally see those 3 grouped together.
>Honestly I think all iterations of NG2 are trash. Just play NGB/NG Sigma.What's wrong with 2?
>>712643981completely different games so no
nioh was always shit
The problem with Wo Long was it couldn't decide whether it wanted to be an action game or an RPG like Nioh and the game just feels super repetative cause they couldn't decide which so it just felt super shallow. They should have made the game like half as long and not structured like Nioh and removed the loot autism entirely or gone full Nioh and had the RPG aspects play a way bigger role. The whole moral system was also steaming hot garbage and should be removed.
>>712642570>>712643548Interviewer: When did this project start?
Yasuda: We started development right after releasing the Steam version of Nioh 2, so about 2020.
Interviewer: So this game was developed in tandem with Strangers of Paradise, Wo Long, and Rise of Ronin?
Yasuda: Past Nioh titles were all proposed by Kou Shibusawa at Koei Tecmo, but Nioh 3 was proposed by from the development side, who expressed that they wanted to make the game.
Since Team NINJA has participated in the development of many works as a team, the team went thorugh some personnel changes. It was probably from 2023 that the development officially began. The content of the game has not changed since the beginning of the proposal, so this is why we were able to deliver a demo along with the announcement.
>>712643976Platinum designs are usually range from inoffensive to good. Yakumo is the worst design they have ever produced.
>>712644668AAAAAAAAAA HD STEAM PORT WHEEEEEEENNNNIIIIIIIIGGGGGGEEEEERRRRSSS
>>712635083 (OP)Fuck this [!] shit.
And double fuck it for using the already over-used diamond square. Every UI looks the same these days.
>>712644581>edgy zoomer styleLooks like it's perfect for you. I heard you also get a 12 inch black dildo to sit on with preorders.
>>712644865>complaining about edge in Ninja GaidenYou absolute fucking larping faggots.
>>712644817Legitimately never.
>>712644113the increased enemy counts, easier access to UTs and paper thin health values make it feel more like a musou.
to me the coolest part about NGB is that it's a very defensive game.
>>712644836there's also a circle outline in the middle which highlights the big ass red arrows just incase the journalists were too retarded to notice the [!] lol
>>712644963Mathilda my love
>>712644934NG isnโt edgy at all, itโs just extremely fucking badass
>>712635083 (OP)This will likely be the best ninja gaiden game. It was always a series with good ideas but lacked execution, now that another studio is making it I expect it to be much better
>>712644934Ninja gaiden has been about ninjas doing ninja shit. If you think that's edgy then you're just a fucking retard.
>>712645480if you never liked the first game, you never liked the franchise and should fuck off
and this comes from somebody that finds the whole franchise average towards shit (at 3 and most likely this too)
>>712644934NMH or MadWorld are edgy, NG is just ninja kino you retarded cretin.
>>712645968Where the fuck did I say I didn't like it. It's YOU that should fuck off retard
>>712646063yeah, sorry for liking the franchise how it was at 1 and 2 and not how it turned into QTE shit at 3 and replacing the main character now
but you just proved you are a blind fanboy so you will eat shit with the name on it
>NG fans doesn't like QTE shit
what did he mean by this? UT, OT, SoB are all QTE shit
>>712646392>This will likely be the best ninja gaiden game.your phrase blind fanboy
kill yourself
>>712635083 (OP)No hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits = not buy
>>712644865>edgy zoomer styleit feels more like 2000s edge
>>712639893Retard the enemies in ninja gaiden are pure best em up raid bosses
They swarm and destroy you like a bitch
The appeal is to figure out stats on how to deal with them
im surprised the game does not have a season pass
was expecting they'll put additional ryu missions as dlcs
>>712648823They said there's gonna be future gameplay content.
>>712645480What did Ninja Gaiden Black lack
>>712649068maybe just gamemodes
they'll put some effort if they advertise some story dlcs
>>712646638>>712646483>Publisher: MicrosoftJust put it on your ignored list.
>>712649289Annoying enemies and dogshit bosses
>>712649289Dabi ET being able to kill things makes UT chaining braindead.
The fiend challenges drag on for too long.
>>712650895It literally has a delimb mechanic.
>>712635083 (OP)I got nioh thanks
>>712640936You don't need a "fun aspect" when the enemies are inherently fun to fight anon
>>712651935you forgot your selfie
>>712638919
anyone else put off by the gore?
>>712650650>Dabi ET being able to kill things makes UT chaining braindead.Not quite, you get the Dabi right when they start introducing tougher enemies that can outright tank UT's (ogres, laser crabs, berserkers) or can easily interrupt you (armored soldiers, ghost fish). It's brainless against human-sized enemies but by that point they're no longer the main threat anyway.
>>712653563the humanoids are the most fun to fight tho. ogres and berkserks are such a fucking drag.
Saw someone saying that it doesn't matter that Ryu only has one weapon in NG4 because there's no real time weapon switching so having multiple weapons doesn't matter. How are these people real?
ng3res camera is fucking awful it's way too low
>>712635083 (OP)i wonder which body type that is. looks like body type 1 to me.
>>712654449I think they're fine as long as you don't have to fight too many of them, the late game challenges for example are a massive pain in the ass.
I agree with you on the human-sized enemies though, the archive challenge is peak NGB for me.
>>712655036Body type 2, with buttplug bonus for pre-ordering.
>>712635083 (OP)>>712635130>>712635195>>712635265This is just Metal Gear Rising with Splatoon splatter with its blood.
>>712653446You are kidding right?
>>712655671it's not the number of them but how one dimensional they are. even if they are in a group, it doesn't change how you approach them.
>>712653446only your tranny ass
>>712656121>MGR2 with Ryu Ninja Gaiden missionsYou say that like its a bad thing
>>712656535There's still some nuance to how you fight them like
>positioning vs ogres to avoid breaking their masks>positioning vs berserkers to avoid ranged attacksand the way you fight them is radically different to how you fight humanoid enemies. It helps keep things fresh, especially after 8 chapters of almost exclusively humanoid enemies.
Ogres also sometimes mixed together with humanoid enemies which prevents you from spamming Dabi UT's (unless you don't care about breaking their masks)
>>712635083 (OP)>Designated grapple points>Not just giving the player freedom to grapple wherever they want.>Not making aiming the grapple require skill in of itself.
>>712641658>Should've called it auraNo fuck off, the last thing I need is to see retarded burger zoomers making memes about "farming aura" in a videogame.
>>712643714>Veins on tummy, thighs, ass, boobs.Rachel is the greatest thing that ever happened to this series. She alone keep the series heterosexual, because Ryu sure ain't.
>>712635083 (OP)>>712635130>>712635195>>712635265This does not look as good nor as smooth gameplay wise as the Xbox games which came out decades ago now.
So can anyone tell me what do i do with all this extra equipment in nioh 3?
>>712643912What will NOT Kanekis kagune look like?
>>712646483I can't believe Ryu refused to make a half fiend half dragon ninja child. He could have been able to single single-handedly destroy the spider ninja clan in an hour.
>>712637517Ultimate techniques have been in every game, it's even incentivize in 2 to do them often in crowds
>>712637108>>712637278>>712637517Huge NGII (Xbox 360 version) enjoyer here but I actually agree with this anon. Last year I replayed NGB and NGII again beating them several times in a row for my last playthroughs of the games perhaps ever. I came to the conclusion that NGB is the superior game even combat wise. NGII has a lot of issues that hold it back from being as great as NGB and one of them is in fact the dismemberment system with the executions. It certainly looks cool but it does definitely change how combat plays in a pretty significant way compared to NGB. I still like it and I am not surprised this series will likely forever keep the mechanic though. Its in an ironic way a great way to casualize the combat. Ironic because Itagaki was obsessed with making hardcore games.
>>712658445Ryu is a traitor to the Dragon clan and was always secretly plotting it's downfall.
His master was a traitor, it makes sense for the student to be one too.
>>712635083 (OP)Haha look at that clownshow
Team Ninja fags in shambles
this looks like completely shit
>parryslop
>staggerslop
into the thrash it goes
>>712658807>damage number slop>good
I don't have the reflexes for this shit nowadays. DMC5 is more my speed.
>>712635710You said the same about Nero when DmC4 came out and now you suck his dick after DmC5.
>>712658660To that effect, I've only played one modern Ninja Gaiden game (Black, got it for like 5 bucks). Beat it once and never played it again
I played all the NES ones though
>>712659170Yeah it's in all the 3d games. Well idk about yaiba
>>712635083 (OP)>>712635130>>712635195>>712635265The camera is so pulled far back, you need a 70 inch tv to see what's going on.
>iframeslop
>autocomboslop
>dial-a-comboslop
>executionslop
>blockslop
>rollslop
This series has always been a joke.
>>712657443mask breaking really doesn't matter cuz the new combo isn't any more threatening and there is zero fucking nuance to pulling one berserker and fiddling with the camera to keep others out of view.
and nothing about them is refreshing. it's the same basic loop of waiting for the punish window except their kit is on par with a DMC3 enemy. it's especially bad after already having had to suffer through a billion zombies in ch6 and 7
>>712635083 (OP)Ah, excellent. Dismemberment. Feels so stupid to have so many action games and whatever else with blades, shotguns and whatnot but no dismemberment. Looks alright.
>>712646638Then no buy at launch
>>712649704Based
>>712658985I am still able to play DMC5 but I find Dante hard to use unless I limit the amount of guns and devil arms I take with me. Even then I end up not style switching too much. He definitely feels like he is for only the most skilled DMC players. Bloody Palace is quite bullshit at the end having to fight all those fights in a row against Urizen and then Vergil holy fucking shit. Amazing game though. Probably won't ever platinum it but oh well.
>>712635164don't use reddit but I'm 100% sure you're a bot that got that post from some top comment in a reddit post
>>712658660 True, ultimate techniques have always been a staple, but Nioh 3 kind of waters them down. In NGB or NG2, popping a UT in a mob felt insanely hype, like you earned a goddamn breather. In Nioh it blends in too much with all the anime-flashy yokai tech spam. When everything explodes with particle diarrhea, nothing has any real impact.
Also, NGB punished sloppy play. In Nioh 3 you can whiff a UT, eat a bad trade, pop Living Weapon 4.0 or whatever weโre on now, and immediately melt the room. Itโs less about execution and more about build tuning. Still fun, just not the same type of high-skill thrill NGโs UTs used to bring.
>>712635083 (OP)>>712635130this looks like it plays like the werehog stages
>>712662227From that shitty Sonic game?
>>712661562>We're agingIt feels bad.
>>712649289>lock on>a good sense of style>a good ranking system>dodge offset>weapon switching>good characters>good OST
>>712662604Yeah it really does anon. I had a lot more of an ability to play DMC4 good then DMC5. I was able to S rank Bloody Palace without the auto-combos. I only beat DMC5's with V using auto-combos. I did also get far with Nero but died to one of the Urizen fights just can't remember which one. It was quite exhausting. I don't think its that DMC5 requires more skill from the player either both games seem to require about equal amounts of it to me. I just got old and can't play these games as well. Kind of ironic considering Dante is the old man of the series yet he seems best suited for the younger guys to get good with. The bike is a great weapon though.
>>712659464First thing I noticed, I hope its adjustable.
>>712663228>Kind of ironic considering Dante is the old man of the series yet he seems best suited for the younger guys to get good withHeh, I hadn't even considered that, it's a fair point that you bring up.
So any idea when they're going to drop a demo?
>>712635083 (OP)Is it just me or the combat here feels really slow compared to ninja gaiden black ?
>Filmic tonemapper
>fog
modern games are dead on arrival every single time
>>712663119How the hell would Ninja Gaiden benefit from dodge offset?
>>712635265Tell me more about the drill spear.
>>712642224They can't make anything but soullikes.
I really hope they release a demo.
I remember when the demo for DMC5 came out for Playstation 4 I played it for like 30 hours
>>712665938All games benefit from having dodge offset
>>712666824It's fun, but Ninja Gaiden would just lose any strategy in combo selection when you can simply spam the best one all the time. It's all about efficiency, not being cool and using varied attacks.
>>712663119>lock on>dodge offset>weapon switchingdoesn't make it good but its pretty much confirmed for ng4, the rest you list are just shill talking points
>>712658807Its actually fun. The RPG part hold it back though.
>>712640219nearly every 3d action game is like this, older ng included
>>712658807visually impressive and mechanically boring game
>>712667519Nah I don't think there's any offset in the footage
New digital Foundry Video just dropped:
https://youtu.be/nCAVV4C3Llo
>>712670237>>712670728Still haven't joined the 41 gang?
>>712671153well you really should, you'd do a favor for everyone
>>712670237In hindsight he was right.
>>712656121Im so glad you never got rising 2, can't stand you niggers
>>712643783OMG He's just like joker FR FR!
>>712670474Who did it better? DF or IGN?
Team Ninja had god tier smooth animations in their games in Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive, this looks like a step back in that area.
My PC is probably not going to be able to run it smoothly anyway so I don't give a fuck.
>>712654449>berkserks are such a fucking drag.Ninja Dog. They're great.
>>712672687Nta but nah fuck your dark souls enemy and their ToVs
even ng4 mogs the hell out of every dmc lil bro
>>712643783>>712643912>Two-toned hair.I really wish Japan would stop doing this.
>>712673271>dark souls invented enemy patterns
>>712671153GYAAAT DAYUM WHO IS THIS BEAUT?
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>biggest TN shill is having a melty on twitter over people not slurping up NG4 and Nioh 3
KEK, look at this faggot coping
>>712676831>game has the weapons>change skin of ryu to use different weaponsDoes he know something we don't?
>>712679035he means yackumo
>>712679150Fuck. He speaking in half truths or some shit? Yeah he's too far gone.
>>712676831whats wrong with nioh 3
>>712640936>But where's the "fun" aspect?Beating enemies up is fun
It was fun back in ninja turtles: turtles in time
it was fun in final fight
it was fun in dungeons and dragons shadows over mystara
it was fun in DMC
it was fun in ninja gaiden
It was fun in Nioh
It was fun in bayonetta
It was fun in MGR
It was fun wukong ching chong
it was fun in stellar goon
and it is going to be fun in ninja gaiden platinum ediition.
You don't need a deeper reason beyond beating shit up.
>>712642526And they're all kino except chinese nioh because they fell for the parry meme
>>712674949>>Two-toned hair.I have two-toned hair IRL
it's called graying
>>712680172>it was fun in stellar goonstopped reading there, opinion discarded
>>712680351I am 25 and already graying. Brutal.
I'm about to play NG3RE for the first time. What am I in for? I heard the writers turned Ryu in to a weepy pussy.
>>712680515I started graying at 18
it was over for me before it ever started.
>>712680563>What am I in for?
I don't really get the hair complaints, Was Ash a bratty little femboy in Evil Dead 2?
>>712680615>>712680515you get to have cool white anime hair!
>>712643640ps2 character design
>>712680806That's why it's good
>>712658445Ryu canonically doesn't want to fuck because he doesn't actually like his dragon lineage and doesn't want to burden another child with that. Thats the actual answer
>>712680735You see the difference is the emo hair gives it an entirely different feel
>>712680563They did but its mainly just a dub thing. In JP he just acts like his DOA self
>>712643026>forces her ideal Boyfriend OC to be the MC so she can live out her fantasies
>>712680563He doesn't act very different at all, the difference is he just says a lot more. It's because the game has a story where characters actually talk unlike the first 2 games. It's not a very good story by any means, but I greatly prefer having Ryu actually show signs of what kind of person he is, as opposed to him being a nobody with 4 lines of dialogue.
>>712677153>Dude what if EVERY weapon was the Tonfa
>>712681437You can block, dodge and attack with every weapon in every game. Hope that helps.
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>>712680563>I heard the writers turned Ryu in to a weepy pussy.Yeah. This image explains it pretty well. I have no idea why they tried so hard to "humanize" Ryu in this game. It's stupid and lame.
Not that NG's story particularly matters, though.
>>712681943Does Ryu ever actually show a response like that to his murder curse thing in NG3? All I remember is him being kind of pissed off about it but mostly just tanking it. But I haven't played the game in a few years. I've also never played with the english dub.
>>712681023>doesn't want to burden another child with thatThat is actually fucked up. He will end his entire clan.
>>712682279A little girl calls him a murderer after he cuts down her dad and he gets really sad. That's pretty much the extent of it.
>>712643912>BeltsWhy does Japan do this?
>>712681943wasnt he cursed in this game? anyway its dogshit game
>>712682569NG3 RE is the best gameplay in the series.
>>712682743didnt redeem how dogshit its SAAAR
>>712682514kinda dumb the girl notice its her dad and didnt hear her uncle killed him first
>>712680735not a fagguy kpop haircut so borderline it hides the eyes like its anime
>>712680563the most dumb hack and slash game plot like metroid other m changing baby for murderer
I'll always be upset that an incredibly fun gamemode like Ninja Race will forever be exclusive to a game like Sigma 2.
My favorite aurafarming moments in the series.
https://youtu.be/cFraFfldq0w?si=GmwrQofELxW5P-Ch&t=401
https://youtu.be/cFraFfldq0w?si=nSHybdoQ9VkE-WZ5&t=590
https://youtu.be/cFraFfldq0w?si=NV9AacAN0iPvmLVZ&t=861
https://youtu.be/cFraFfldq0w?si=Lv4ANyjmwJaUXoAA&t=1645
https://youtu.be/cFraFfldq0w?si=wg3ucP5N06LfWYBf&t=2025
https://youtu.be/cFraFfldq0w?si=3FdLifx2Qg7YJCD_&t=2741
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=uipRN-rk7fABUFUS&t=123
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=nvqhxtMIAbIo0eq_&t=243
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=gyWhKrloRFNE3D2r&t=857
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=RpGpHwvplI1-N32v&t=1041
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=zauH5NQf5acTOs4J&t=1170
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=m1Ft0Ziksd3mN2vl&t=1277
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=rs0tGyErgsQ1fj_y&t=1405
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=zH_72WRrBuyiFvY3&t=1450
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=c44wsh_D7VUQWDOu&t=1716
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=-uesjv8PL5KuCzv9&t=2038
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=pue36sN2LIiPctcs&t=2076
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=XOEoZzt1Z4ZE0tWx&t=2147
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=IZfw7-bVNZqutMlA&t=2698
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=HDj8ij_FsJLtWE8Q&t=3328
https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=7XP3vJ72uD_qFXPv&t=4144
https://youtu.be/Tr8UbMhqTWA?si=MZniUzu1zwNLFp2H&t=139
https://youtu.be/Tr8UbMhqTWA?si=0qcPaPDrB8eP_qz8&t=3894
https://youtu.be/Tr8UbMhqTWA?si=kY0c0JxjQ_AY_FtP&t=4057
https://youtu.be/Tr8UbMhqTWA?si=tBUZ2QwRmjl4avaG&t=4892
https://youtu.be/Tr8UbMhqTWA?si=fl3xDPG70GQI_0xC&t=6588
>>712686245>https://youtu.be/_1GjdB622y4?si=nvqhxtMIAbIo0eq_&t=243Scene so good they turned it into the title screen in 2 Black
>>712686245https://youtu.be/WglFzJUcRbI?si=IrByEDkccVSCZaVM&t=111
Also this one, the video didn't have it.
mork plays tjhis right? is it any good
>>712679569most likely not on the switch upsets the tendie
>>712687693Yes
Ninja Gaiden 2 is the DoDonPachi DaiOuJou of action games
>it's over
https://www.thegamer.com/ninja-gaiden-4-deluxe-edition-ryu-one-weapon-only-fears-confirmed/
>>712689182>Considering how long it's been since the Ninja Gaiden series last had a new game, this year's announcement (and impending release) of Ninja Gaiden 4 should be nothing but good news.That's a really stupid thing to say.
>"The game itself is being developed by PlatinumGames, but Team Ninja gets the builds every day, and we have really in-depth discussions in terms of the action and balancing," said PlatinumGames director Yuji Nakao, in an interview with PC Gamer after Sunday's Xbox showcase.
>Team Ninja director Masakazu Hirayama added that they "wanted to inject PlatinumGames' unique, stylish approach to action into Ninja Gaiden 4 while retaining the gameplay feel that longtime players expect from the series.
>"You'll see the new stylish dynamic expressions that Platinum is known for through the toolset of the new protagonist Yakumo, but when it comes to [original protagonist] Ryu we're very picky about making sure that Ryu feels right," he said.
>One new element that reminds me of the parry system in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (Platinum's best game) is a "perfect guard." Block at just the right moment and you'll get to follow up with a unique attack.
>"If you pull that off, enemies will drop blood essence, which you can utilize by doing an ultimate technique," Hirayama said. "We thought that was a really good fit for the gameplay cycle of Ninja Gaiden and another example of how we've been able to bring together the stylish qualities of Platinum while retaining that distinct Ninja Gaiden gameplay feel."
>I'd love to have been a fly on the wall for the meetings between these two studios as they debated what did and did not feel right for Ninja Gaiden. While Hirayama was, of course, perfectly polite in describing their collaboration, both teams have to have extremely strong opinions about the minutiae of hitstop and i-frames and million other little details.
>>712690516If Kojima didn't open his own studio I'd say Platinum would be the most overrated dev team of the modern era.
>>712639893Literally try the games anon. It's as polar opposite of a button masher as the definition can get. The enemies are very fast and nimble, they die quickly but also kill you quickly. They will grab/attack you the instant they get near you so you always have to position carefully and react to things very quickly
Can anyone confirm? Are there any good NG titles for Switch? Don't they benefit from the Switch 2 boost now?
>>712635083 (OP)I just think it looks cool as fuck
But it better have extremely hot babes or else I'm not buying that shit lol
>>712691871The first NES game on NSO.
It has all three next gen NGs, but I haven't tried them on Switch 2 yet.
>>712691871Yeah just get master collection. 2 and 3 had performance issues on switch 1 I heard, should be good with the boost.
>>712692119Whatever happened to old Oatmeal Face?
>>712692583He got too cocky...
>>712691958New girl has nice milkers, but I need to see Ayane in the full game.
>>712635083 (OP)Platinum Games fucking sucks shit and you should have known this was going to be ass as soon as you saw they were involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zrSirwGGi4
I love this track. NG's OSTs are so underrated.
>>712693423Where does this play
>>712695136First phase of the Clone Ryu boss fight.
>>712690516it's crazy that the thing that worries me here is not platinum but team ninja discussing the balancing
those nigger have no idea what makes a good ninja gaiden game as evident by sigma 2, and 2 black
>>712658807>/v/ will talk shit about NG4 for being parry slop, for being a button masher, for being too easy and enemies not being aggressive enough and then shill a game where all you do is mash 1 buttonEvery time
>>712695881>good balance is when the game plays like a musou
>>712696517>good balance is when enemy one shots you and killing them is rng
>>712669706And it would often be easier (and less "realistic") for all enemies to attack at once. You wouldn't even need to group them.
>>712696686>RNG is when your fat fingers can't hit the right buttons and you die
>>712635083 (OP)Looks less like Ninja Gaiden and more like a Ninja Gaiden inspired Platinum game. Eh, I'll take it.
>>712696517>musou is when there's multiple enemies at onceFinal Fight is my favorite musou.
>>712635083 (OP)I thought ninja gaiden was supposed to be a stealth game. I vaguely remember my buddy playing one on the 360 ages ago. he was sneaking on top of a roof and making fake bird calls to distract guards, or something.
Was it always a beat em up?
>>712635083 (OP)what do you guys think of the gore? personally id prefer if it was a more vibrant red
>>712635164it's called aura farming now
>>712697318I don't like the "bloody screen" thing, never did.
>>712697437That's a ng ragebound mechanic
>>712643026>sees a generic japanese woman>immediately lust over her and call her cutejesus you guys should get outside and talk to women more
>>712645814>>712646031>buzzwords and no actual argumentDone? Done.
>>712697552didn't ng black have that mechanic with doku's dual katanas
I beat the first one on hard. Never felt the need to play another Ninja Gaiden game ever again.
>>712697793>hardthat's easy mode
>>712697050Musou is when a bunch of paper tiger enemies bumrushes the player only to die instantly and trigger another wave
>>712697853whatever the hardest difficulty was i don't remember it was 20 years ago.
>>712698047you're a bitch.
>>712698074fuk u motherchode
>>712697183Your friend was probably playing Tenchu Z. Ninja Gaiden has never been a stealth game.
>>712698724nah he's talking about ng3
>>712643019>Things I made up for 500, Trebek
>>712639893>DMC=Style>Bayonetta=Flow>Ninja Gaiden=Survival
>>712659471>slopThe faggots who pushed this into the internet lexicon should be beaten with a cane.
>>712663119>good OSTfuck you
>>712635083 (OP)It looks too hard...
do you think the human enemies being white and heavily armored is a leeway to bring back dismemberment? you know to avoid, jap censorship?
>>712701770Probably not, but even if all of America buys this game, they'll still feign financial incompetence.
>>712635083 (OP)>button mashing slop styling on punching bagsI'll never understand the appeal of Ninja Gaydung.
>>712635083 (OP)>They're finally adding lock-onSo where are all the "N-Ninja Gaiden doesn't need lock-on" fags now?
>>712702904>They're finally adding lock-onwhere?
>>712703485There's a red dot on enemies you target now
>>712681437why do so many secondaries latch on to ng4? This is literally guard cancel dash, every weapon can do this since ng1 or 2, can't remember for sure since haven't played 1 for a while
>>712643783>we are crafting an adventure with a new master ninja protaganist, yakumo, set in a fresh worldyeah so we got hired to make ninja gaiden 4, we know you havent had a game in a decade so we decided to replace the main character of the franchise with one we just made up that we thought looked cool. yeah we wanted to change the look of the world too. we saw cyberpunk was popular right now. we kept the name though and ryu is in it sometimes. we're basically just winging it. we dont know how all this new stuff is going to work with the lore later in possible future games, but we didnt care. oh yeah btw if you preorder the game you can get some in game currency. thanks
bro there is no way im buying this shit.
>>712704153it's just the usual shit eating retards on this board
>new game comes out>now everyone is an expert of the series and will post whatever garbage to shit on new game
>>712643976platinum designs are usually pretty cool- vanquish and MGR being major examples. ive wanted a sequel to those for years. the problem is injecting their aesthetic into a different studios IP and not having the common sense to tone it down some. real artists understand the power of restraint and less being more at times.
>>712704460>the problem is injecting their aesthetic into a different studios IP and not having the common sense to tone it down>>712690516>Team Ninja director Masakazu Hirayama added that they "wanted to inject PlatinumGames' unique, stylish approach to action into Ninja Gaiden 4
You just know that DMCfags are coping because DMCV is dogshit!
>>712704557platinum games having a unique stylish approach is vague and can mean a lot of things. it can mean the general flow of the gameplay which is historically slick and fast paced. it can be the stylish and aesthetically pleasing designs they are (typically) known for. it doesnt specifically say they wanted the game to look like metal gear rising 2 or vanquish 2. whatever platinum is known for is purely a starting point. it doesnt mean that they shouldnt refine it to closer resemble the series they're being trusted to represent. what it means is they thought platinum had the talent and potential to make the next game.
dmc 3 on the far left and then every game after
>>712704894>they thought platinum had the talent and potential to make the next gamethey sure as hell have more talent to make an NG game than nu-TN
>>712704000I'm not sure if that's an actual lock-on system, or just an indicator showing who the playable character is currently targeting based on the priority/targeting system the series has always had.
>>712635195these new attacks that can go through multiple enemies 20 feet away are really killing this for me. there is no charge up or anything either.
I can't even play these games anymore I don't know why I'm getting hyped.
>>712705002not sure if i agree with you but i can at least see where youre coming from. team ninja has made good games recently. if they locked in they have the talent to make ninja gaiden 4. the last ninja gaiden they made was ninja gaiden 3 a long time ago. my guess is a lot of the employess who worked on 3 are gone and a lot of the guys who made nioh are new. similar to how a lot of the employees who made platinums most popular games are gone and are at other studios now.
frankly people were worried that ninja gaiden 4 if it was made by team ninja would be a nioh clone and i understand that worry--however i think it taking some elements of it and being slower and not as crazy as this new game taking inspiration from metal gear rising, would have been a preferable outcome if the fans could only pick one or the other. a slower paced game where you play as an up and coming lower ranking hayabusa ninja would have actually been kino and a better execution than this. but thats just my opinion.
>>712705521that's the shittiest take I've ever seen
they can't even make a good normal NG game and you want them to make a nioh+NG hybrid instead hoping it's good
fucking hell they're just remaking itagaki's games and they still manage to make it dogshit
kys
>>712687693>mork plays tjhis right?I wouldn't say that.
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>>712704000oh yeah you're right
>>712705712they made a good ninja gaiden game with ninja gaiden black, and for its faults ninja gaiden 2 did a lot of things well also. by the time that ninja gaiden 3 rolled around-- i highly suspect that many of the people who made the first 2 games were gone. and it did not have the unifying vision of itagaki. (for better or worse) so ng3 was kind of a trainwreck. but ng3 and ng3re came out so long ago, that i dont even think THOSE guys who worked on that are there anymore. (good) The newer DOA fighting games are also shittier compared to the older ones as well. there was a period of time before nioh came out that i was convinced that team ninja just would never make a good game again period---forget ninja gaiden. but nioh changed my perspective on that. and i think that the guys behind nioh are competent enough that they could have possibly made a good ninja gaiden game.
the only reason i made the suggestion that it could have worked, is that nioh is a slower game. and if we were going to end up with a brand new character regardless, perhaps it being a lower ranking ninja who is not as skilled or as strong as ryu, but maybe half way to his level could have been a good thematic compromise. i think it would have made sense to expand on the hayabusa village and the people who live there versus inventing an entire new clan for one character that is just as strong as ryu is anyway. some small influences of nioh would have made sense if it was a lower ranking ninja who was not as fast or as strong as ryu. and i suspect that older players would at the very least found it interesting playing as an underdog hayabusa ninja who trains with ryu and does not have all of his tricks, it would be a challenge, versus an overpowered "made up" new character.
>>712705985What about Gork?
>mentally ill nigger writing paragraphs and paragraphs of wrong things is back
>>712639375i agree with what youre saying. the move list of the weapons in the older game was half of the appeal of replaying it, because every weapon felt like it was a new game+ mode. one of my criticisms of ninja gaiden 2 was the finishers. in theory they are whatever i can take it or leave it. but each weapon should have like 10 finishing animations so you dont see the same one over and over in a row.
>>712705521>frankly people were worried that ninja gaiden 4 if it was made by team ninja would be a nioh cloneanon, TN literally said they forgot how to make a fast paced action game like NG
>>712639893the enemies in the first game are dangerous and will simply just merc you if you let your guard down or block too long/stay still. this is "very hard" but they do it on lower levels too.
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>>712706957https://www.4gamer.net/games/875/G087562/20250127029/
>>712705521>>712706167>They should just turn ninja gaiden into soulslop!I wish I can strangle you to death.
>>712706957if a representative said that in an interview i never heard it but i will take your word for it. they didnt forget though. they just lost the talent that enabled them to do it. a big part of it was itagaki. but itagaki also relied on the skill under him as well. in the same way that kojima was a good director but would have been SOL without having a skilled team.
as studios have turnovers and cycle through employees talent pool changes. it goes up and down.
>>712707157you honestly seem like a caricature of the sort of person 4chan users are in peoples minds. some angry unhinged guy with no ability to reason or interact with ideas that dont agree with your own. its okay for you to have a different opinion.
you can also try making a compelling argument.
>>712706287Don't you mean Bork?
>>712638610>average retard's reading comprehension be like
>>712707259Go back to fromslop threads retard. This series is not for you.
>>712707259>if a representative said that in an interview i never heard it but i will take your word for it.see
>>712707106TN's current president said it
also why the hell are you suggesting TN to make a "slow" gameplay or anything similar to nioh for NG?
both have different genres in the first place
>>712635083 (OP)>unreal engine>more like "cant see shit-engine"
just ignore that dude, he's gonna keep writing paragraphs of worthless or just straight up misinformed garbage and call you a shill by the end of it
i don't know why that retard spends so much time larping like he knows or plays any game in this series
>>712707674>unreal engineplatinum's inhouse engine
>>712659464yeah thank fucking god they fixed it
>>712642713A women designed bayonetta
>>712699104>who is Nero>what is DMC4 and 5>what is giving the franchise to hack Netflix retard Adi Shankar
>>712707443i actually like ninja gaiden a lot more than whatever genre darksouls and stuff is considered. you can take like 5 or 10% of another game your studios has made, and use that as inspiration when making a new entry in a franchise if youre making a mandatory new character anyway. my argument was only that thematically having some slower more defensive gameplay would be cool if you were playing as a lower ranking hayabusa ninja climbing the ranks building his own legacy. that is a lot more interesting than a new character who is already a master ninja. ninja gaiden already has a master ninja we want to play as, and its ryu. i was just offering a logical compromise.
>>712707480i do not want ninja gaiden to be a nioh clone. but ninja gaiden as a series already had its roots in slower (but still conventionally fast) gameplay with NGB which is more defensive and position focused with brief periods of offense than NG2 or NG3 are. It would be easier for the team who made nioh to make a game closer to that play style with more defensive gameplay than something which is full out assault constantly like ninja gaiden 2 is or 3. My core argument was that the combat pacing of nioh is closer to ngb than ng2 or 3 and it would have been easier for them to make a title taking some small elements of nioh not copying nioh or making a nioh clone.
>>712707717>>712707845>acktually its platinums engineso its even worse
they actually went through the effort of copying and recreating all the overly bloomy eyerape effects
>>712695881Sigma 2 is good go kill yourself
>>712647845the hair cut is just whats trending on tiktok and such right now. its kpop adjacent. the tattoos are nor far removed from the shitty tattoos young people have now which are hand tattoos an black out sections. the outfit is just a combination of modern goth with the urban ninja clothing trend which has been around for a while with techwear. its just a smorgasbord of things popular to young people online.
>>712708019it's ok at best, hp bloat on some enemies sucks and arenas weren't designed for smaller encounters, plus no blood or gore
>>712654449the humanoid enemies are typically my favorite as well. ninja gaiden black has such fun enemies in chapter 1 and 2 and the levels are so nice looking, they could have easily taken the framework there and stretched it out into its own game and it still would have been good.
>>712672687you just exploit one weakness they have over and over again and that's it
>>712707689I hope it's just chatgpt posting
>>712690516>"If you pull that off, enemies will drop blood essencewhy? where did it come from? where was it the last 3 games? stop inventing random bullshit. its not castlevania.
>>712697183>I thought ninja gaiden was supposed to be a stealth gamein an alternative universe, instead of NG2 having things be even crazier, NG2 would have kept the action where it was but added optional stealth routes in every level. not enough to be a stealth game but just enough to have fun and skip 5 or 10% of the encounters. (if you felt like it)
>secondary male protag
Why? Why not the usual sexy female secondary protag?
>>712709637thats a big part of what has people so split in these thread right now. idk either they already had other characters to use with established fanbases.
>>712709310>why? where did it come from? where was it the last 3 games? stop inventing random bullshit. its not castlevania.this except delimb and ot's
I expect the game to be pretty good mechanically, yes I know the Black2 Remake is basically Sigma with blood and more enemies but I enjoyed it and at the end of the day Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, Sigma or OG is still better then 99% of CAG no matter the version, I did like the upgraded visuals a lot, they retained most of the original style pretty well. However Black2 has hot babes, they didn't censor the babes so I rewarded them with my money however for this game.
>If the babes are hot, I buy
>If the babes are not hot, I no buy
I don't think Team Ninja/Platinum is pozzed right?
>>712708382This, the delimb rate is also much smaller.
>>712707834I hate the design of Bayonetta, I never played the games because I think the art sucks and the main character look like shit, unironically true.
I would take a Kasumi or Hayane each day of the year over this tranny looking bayonetta shit.
>>712710167i think ninja gaiden is just one of those franchises where they need someone to do a final pass over it from time to time an tighten it up. the delimb ability on paper is interesting but in practice gets repetitive. i think if it was something like a 1/20 chance or something rare it would have a bigger impact when it happens. Thats part of why OT seem so boring since you have to do them over and over. They could have mitigated that by giving every weapon 10 OT animations of aprox the same animation length. combining those two approaches i think could have improved the game.
Kinda weird that both 4 and Ragebound have brand new characters instead of Ryu. Is it because they feel like Ryu as nowhere to go now?
>>712690516>One new element that reminds me of the parry system in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. A "perfect guard." Block at just the right moment and you'll get to follow up with a unique attack.>"If you pull that off, enemies will drop blood essence, which you can utilize by doing an ultimate technique,"kek these insipid faggots couldn't help themselves but try to turn this into another parrysloppa
>>712707106>Team Ninja has no confidence in their ability to make good games anymore>So they give their flagship away to a sinking ship studio that replaces their most iconic character with a Tokyo Ghoul ahh twink faggotHoly shit, what a humiliation ritual
>>712711406where theres a will theres a way, in a decade they should have had the resources to brainstorm and come up with a proper plot. tats a long ass time. they couldnt have forced their guys to brainstorm one hour a week on it?
>>712711406They probably plan to sunset Ryu and the old cast completely over time to distance themselves from Itagaki as much as possible, I dunno whether its to avoid paying royalties or simply out of spite.
>>712711902Doubt. Ryu and Nyo had cameos in Nioh.
>>712711902thats retarded but somehow in our cursed timeline the most retarded thing that can happen often times somehow does. if you try to think about what the most logical outcome or common sense solution is it almost never happens. almost like we live in some kind of...opposite world. some kind of circus world perhaps. populated with clowns. some kind of strange...clown world even.
>>712712063I've only played the first Nioh and I'm pretty sure that was Jin, not Ryu.
>>712711902But Ryu isn't Itagaki's character.
>>712712108what a clown world when a videogame sequel uses a new character instead of the one from 20 or whatever years ago who has had numerous games over many decades.
>>712712206You're correct in that regard but I think the 3D reboot was basically Itagaki's version which is why KT are trying to distance themselves from it and start over with fresh new protagonists and sunset Ryu ( Itagaki's reboot version ) in the process over time. It'll probably take another spinoff/sequel or two before it finally sets in, guess time will tell.
>>712711902That's bullshit since they milk Ayane and Kasumi.
>>712708510NTA but isn't that every enemy?
>>712712249ryu hasnt had a game in over a decade. if they were just going to replace him they should have just made a new IP instead of using the ninja gaiden name. It isnt just this website, look elsewhere and you have the same division of people saying they dont like the new character and gameplay mechanics. people complained about the same thing when halo by bungie got handed to 343 studios and they replaced half of masterchiefs levels with a new character no one wanted to play as. people still say that game was what killed the franchise.
>>712712636Bungie did the same thing first though.
>>712712164Well of course, they take place hundreds of years before Ryu was even born, but the design of the Hayabusa Falcon suit is near identical and their face and eyes are also identical.
They aren't planning on sunsetting Ryu, but they are not making 4 and they are not making Ragebound either so these other studios want to make their own character, probably because they lack confidence and are afraid that they cannot make a game solely about Ryu, because they are just 'borrowing' the franchise and have not created NG or made an NG game before.
>>712713227they did but its an apples to oranges comparison for a variety of reasons in terms of gameplay/ plot/ overall execution. it was polarizing when it happened but it was one of the rare times where it worked out well. its the exception to the rule and people still complain about it today despite that.
This is the Rodimus Prime syndrome again.
At least, be glad that the new guy is from an entirely different clan instead of a relative like Nero.
>>712712438>and sunset Ryu ( Itagaki's reboot version )Then why make new protags? Why not recreate Ryu like they 20 years?
>>712713804Like another anon said they lack confidence but they probably also fear the inevitable backlash ( Donte for example ) from starting over and rebooting an iconic character which was already well established in the 3D reboots ( Itagaki's version ). I think they will eventually recreate/reboot a new version of Ryu in a decade or so, maybe sooner depending on how NG4 goes plotwise and financially. Right now, I think it appears as though they are testing the waters and trying to suss out which version will become a replacement going forward.
>>712714565I think if it had just been called ninja gaiden (subtitle here) and was a spinoff game like ragebound it wouldnt be so hard to stomach/aburd feeling to people. it would have made more sense to the fanbase too, TN outsourcing a spinoff which is a fully 3d title to gauge interest before commiting to the next mainline entry after a decade. it makes more sense as a spinoff anyway with the new protag and how bizarre everything is.
>>712659464One of the best changes they made.
Cameras NG 1, 2, and 3RE were the most offending thing about the game
>>712715638once i got really good at NGB i honestly felt like the camera being the way it was-added to the game. you could just hit the trigger to change it to what ever direction you're facing. so you were always in control. it was super responsive. but when the camera would get super close up it just enhanced how frantic the action was. didnt play enough of the other 2 to have a strong feeling on it though.
>>712712636 Exactly. If you're not going to use Ryu or stick to the core identity that made Ninja Gaiden what it is, then don't slap the name on something just for brand clout. It feels like theyโre banking on nostalgia while actively ignoring what people liked about the damn series to begin with. You canโt have it both waysโeither evolve the franchise with respect to its roots, or make a clean break and call it something else. Feels like NG in name only at this point, just like Halo 5 felt like Halo in name only.
>>712712502they usually have more than one way to kill them, ogres kinda have only one viable way to play against them
>>712713690but i love nero
>>712716563>It feels like theyโre banking on nostalgiaCause that's exactly what NG4 is. Ryu was probably a last minute addition before the announcement trailer was released because they weren't confident a weebhair OC donut steel would sell it on its own. The fact that Yakumo has 5 weapons while Ryu only has 1 weapon indicates to me that Ryu is just there for nostalgia bait.
>>712717349NTA but love him or hate him nero was decently executed if nothing else from a visual perspective. he looked like he was from the same universe as the other DMC characters. different enough to lok unique but similar enough to where he could have been a character in the earlier games. I personally like Nero but they made an attempt for him to fit into the game world which went a long way. that goes a long way to accepting the character because they are supposed to fit into the preexisting universe.
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>>712643026>she's and artist and cuteNigga she is wearing literal problem glasses.
>>712717740Nero also ties into the series thematically, dealing with the theme of legacy and the legacy of Sparda which is present in most if not all of the games to varying degrees.
Not sure how Yakumo ties into NG thematically, although NG in general doesn't have as strong themes and character driven focus as DMC does imo, so arguably it's not as important, but I think it would've been nice if Yakumo had some more apparent ties to the series.
Maybe he could've been from the Black Spider Clan instead.
>>712718057>problem glassesThat shit is on par with stuff like "no-no square." The glasses in those photos are almost all different, too. What kinda glasses are you allowed to wear before culture warriors get mad at you? They have to be smaller, more stylish, and not have black rims, I guess. If they're red, or some other striking color, they would get called out too, so you'd have to choose brown or grey. Pure white is probably not safe either.
Large glasses are popular in part because they give you a larger field of vision. Mine are small and it's annoying.
>>712718236>black spider clanyeah that makes plenty of sense to me and would have been kino. I wanted to play as a black spider ninja since NG2 made the basic spider ninja look so cool.
Dante is sort of a mentor figure for Nero in the new game and i also think that had the new character just been one of the many younger hayabusa ninja they could have done something cool like that too.
>>712718236the legacy of the DEADWEIGHT and see you in another decade maybe
>>712635083 (OP)This might be the most weebshit to come out of Japan in the last decade, and its making my dick rock hard. I can't believe we're getting a gameplay gamey video game in 2025
>>712717349I don't think he was that loved at first. Whenever someone see a character who will replace the character they liked, they will of course hate the new one at first.
But then, after the actual release, people will begin to warm up for the new character, to the point of having their own fanbase. Or at least when they are well executed, like Raiden or Nero or Rodimus or Duke Freed, and unlike Viola or Miles Morales.
Such is the Rodimus syndrome.
>Berserk mechanic is literally a fixed SoB where you get rewarded for actually playing aggressively instead of just waiting to counter the red mist attack
Gonna be fucking funny if this ends up being better designed than Nu-Team Ninja games
>>712639893>Says NG looks mashy>Immediately props up DMCshit, the lowest common denominator action game, because "LE HECKIN RANKING SYSTEMMM!!!"Kill yourself.
>be me
>like all action games
>better than /v/ at all action
>be /v/
>infighting nonstop
Where can I talk about my favorite games without schizos and gramps barking at each other for no reason?
>>712635083 (OP)you can smell the platinum shit from a mile away
>>712722483unironically reddit, this place is a lost cause
if it ain't a gachaslop or a chink/gook thread, you're not getting good discussion
>>712722483in your discord server for your usual circlejerk that takes no criticism
>>712722483You can't, most people remaining here are outrage addicts.
>>712635668seeing the same animation is quintessential ninja gaiden
>>712635668>the animation that was directly lifted from previous games doesn't look like ninja gaidenamazing work as always, /v/
>>712693078I kinda like the technomagic aesthetic. Ayane will 100% be DLC
>>712722483this new game has been polarizing anywhere. go on google and look around. you will find tiny areas of people doing the usual "wow current thing so cool must consoom" and you have people arguing everywhere as well. even reddit which is a fucking hugbox which downvotes anything critical has been arguing about this game. if REDDIT is complaining about it they fucked up because those consoomers lap up ANYTHING if its current and brand new.
>>712725659what are you on about now? i just did a quick scan of the threads there and no one is constantly screaming about how yakumo is destroying the IP unlike this place
I'm 5 hours into emulated NG2 on the 360
Is there any reason to stop and play the PC version with mods?
>>712726004you obviously didnt look much because last night i saw a lot. reddit is still reddit and if people are upvoting eachother who are critical of the new game and new character there, and they arent getting downvoted into oblivion you know that things arent look great. i was actually pleasantly surprised because i thought the only people left on that website were the must buy current product guy
>>712726149i've never tried the mods so i can't speak for that
if you have no plans beating master ninja and just want to experience the game then you can just play 2 black
if you want to experience the entirety of NG2 then keep playing the OG version
>>712726336if i have to try hard to look for it then it's already much better than this dogshit website where you're constantly getting bombarded with dogshit takes
>>712726149Specs? I've been trying to emulate it myself but my toaster is just too old and slows down into a powerpoint presentation.
>>712726527NTA but you can fuck off back to whatever hole you crawled out of, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out faggot
>>712726527maybe the reason people are more critical here is because they can express their thoughts without being subjected to a group think voting system and they dont have their entire post history accessible just because one guy doesnt agree with something they said. almost like that website stifles speaking freely or something.
just pre ordered ninja gaiden 4 :)
>>712727378>they dont have their entire post history accessiblethis is why this website is garbage, lots of retards see a new game they've got zero experience with and decide they want to take their culture war over here like a monkey
mods need to permaban any /pol/tard from posting on other boards
I am in because of the drill spear. Have we seen any of the rapier?
>>712711902>royaltieslmao itagakitards are something
>>712727648you sound mentally ill. nothing about anything ive said is relevant to any "culture war" topic. Im apolitical.i like a lot of left wing ideas and i like a lot of right wing ones. One of the reasons people are shitting on this game is its just basic pattern recognition. we see a lot of early signs that this game is going to be a shitty product that we arent interested in. and we have the right to voice a complaint. if you dont want to hear it you are free to leave. why is your opinion that the game is going to be good inherently more valid than us saying we think the game is going to be bad? grow up. stop projecting weird shit onto people who have a different opinion than you.
>>712727838why did you think i was talking about you? are you narcissistic? you think this shit isn't culture war crap?
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>>712727378Reddit
Discussion platform
If you don't agree with the hive mind get disappeared
Normalfags not even once.
Gore in ng4 looks worse than gore in ng2 which is a 100+ years old game
>>712635083 (OP)>>712635130>>712635195>>712635265This better be the easy difficulty. This is NG, I want enemies to rape my ass 24/7. In all of these videos the mobs just stand around and wait for their turn.
>>712727995>why did you think was talking about you?because you fucking quoted my post when you brought up the subject you fucking retard. Of course im going to assume it has something to do WITH ME. or else you would quote that guys post. literally just go to bed or something you are just wasting peoples time acting like a sperg. i didnt post that image so it has nothing to do with me. go bug that guy. the fact that you are defaulting to complaining about the "culture war" and are calling me a narcissist because of your vague ass post makes me think you are just an immature emotionally volatile zoomer. millennials do not call people narcissists over 4chan videogame arguments.
if you think this website sucks then just leave like that other dude said. im not saying that to be a dick like i dont want you here, but if you think the site is such a shit show there is no reason for you to be here at all. peoples opinions on here sometimes clash and differ, yeah it can get heated sometimes but its better than a place where everyone just agrees with whatever seems popular at the moment.
>>712727648Normal anon. One with common sense. First hand experience. Knowledge.
>>712727838The monkey anon was talking about
>>712728743that's not how quoting works retard
i quoted a part of your post responding to that part of the post
funny, you tell me to go to a different website but i seem to know how this website works better than you
you even have reddit spacing lmao
>>712723162/v/ pushes narratives in the guise of criticism
>>712727756Just this https://youtu.be/GA70JV2dCMM?si=r4dliXt88UDu8Taq&t=17
>>712728720pretty sure this was all taken on normal or warrior difficulty but it looks like on acolyte, there's also hero mode according to the IGN faggot
Stop responding to chatgpt retards.
>>712707835>Everyone agrees that DMC 4 is flawed but has great combat >DMCV is known as a great game>Nero is liked>Blaming Nero for Netflix, when adaptations of Capcom IPs have mostly been bad.
>>712728885>>712728808stop samefagging
anyways i misinterpreted what you said- thats my bad. but you were replying to me when you brought it up. there were multiple ways to interpret it. regardless though you could have just said hey look at this post earlier for an example of what i mean.
either way i dont think any website needs it so you can see someones entire post history because its just weird and invasive. at that point just use facebook or something. there is no reason why someone who sees your opinion on a fucking videogame needs the ability to see everything youve posted for a decade or whatever. thats just weird.
>>712635083 (OP)????
What's with the robots, lasers, and industrial setting?
I've only played part of the first game but going from grounded hidden ninja village to this is quite literally insane.
>>712729736NGB just starting as a ninja fighting other ninja in a sick mountain dojo, and then sending you back to your village to fight samurai and armored horsemen was probably one of the highlights of the series despite how simple it is. feels like you are part of a martial arts film especially while you have the vintage outfit.
>>712729216Hope so. As much as people like to shit on RE for various reasons, the enemy aggression in that game on MN and above was fucking fantastic.
>>712729736The world of ninja gaiden actually takes place in modern times
>>712729736>What's with the robots, lasers, and industrial setting?Play the games bro.
>>712729736There were cyborgs in NG, granted they looked badass and gritty, now they look gay and colorful probably for accessibility reasons.
>>712730252nta but thats part of the appeal of NGB. modern times with regions that still live traditional lives. separate areas. also at launch nothing seemed much more futuristic than whatever europe was like at the time. any strange tech just seemed like shit (from the perspective of 2004) that we could have in a decade. nothing that that crazy for the most part. just having you fight samurai and other ninjas out in the mountains was a nice contrast to fighting guys with machine guns later.
>>712729736So you didn't even play 3/16 of the chapters. The third chapter takes place in a zeppelin with commandos with guns and the final boss is a fat guy in a cyborg suit shooting lasers. The games are full of that stuff. The first game has several chapters where you mainly fight the modern army (helicopters etc).
It was a little jarring for me too, when in one of the cutscenes there's just a guy in a civilian trench coat and fedora standing next to a demon emperor, and they're scheming together.
>>712730252not him but I always likened it to Samurai Jack's world where it incorporates pockets of ancient civilization mixed with futuristic and fantastical setting including monsters, demons and robots etc. Like the time Jack was fighting through a futuristic city in one episode and in another he is fighting the demons of Set in the ancient ruins of not!Egypt.
>>712730472i can only think of two robotic enemies in ninja gaiden black, that cyborg boss which is my least favorite of that game, and the floating laser drones which really arent even an enemy to most people. just hit them with the windmill shuriken and ignore them. if you play it on either hard or very hard you get robotic guards but those are just a bonus skin. most players will never see it.
Threads like this reveal that all the /v/ monkeys screeching about how NG4 is not like the older games because "le futuristic, le parry slop, le finisher animations" and calling everyone who likes it posers are actually the biggest posers themselves
>>712731123we've known this since the dawn of time because no one from /v/ has ever posted their own gameplay. they post webms of stolen gameplay
>>712729736>I've only played part of the first game Then why talk? The first game has
>armed dinosaurs>a living dragon skeleton>pink demons>cat demons>giant worms>a giant burning demon skeleton as a final bossThen the second game comes and it has
>werewolves>pink demons again>demons with guns>tank demons>a giant armadillo that spews fire>a giant demon skeleton as a final bossRE probably has the most tame enemy selection, majority are just humans.
>>712731123thats crazy i dont remember getting a 20 foot long bankai sword made of blood in the other games
>>712729736>robots, lasers, and industrial settingNG4 will likely end up being this for 80% of the playtime, the rest will probably be fiends and vangelfs in an ancient village stage.
>>712731318personally i think the ninjas and the samurai mesh pretty well with a lot of the demons and the undead as well. kind of like onimusha in that regard the two dont need to be exclusive. its really just the inclusion of more and more future tech shit that starts to make the entire thing fall apart.
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>>712729201>Chunni boy: This is it >Chunni boy: Cool swing into pose killshot>Ryu back pose intensifies>New Waifu: Ryu, there's something I need your help with>That sick as fuck music kicks up a notch>Ryu start beasting on niggasFUCKING KINO! I got chills. Did you niggas even pay attention to the music or are you all too forcus on being butthurt?
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>>712731638Ninjas and futuristic tech is a decade old combo.
>>712731953its just too much in one game, you have to make a compromise somewhere or else it starts to feel like rick and morty or something hopping into different lol so random universes too frequently. if they portrayed it as a self aware comedy game maybe it could work. i dont know.
probably one of my least favorite ninja gaiden designs were the purple chainsaw zombies that had a canon or whatever on the other arm. not because a zombie with a chainsaw and a cannon couldnt be cool, but the way it looked in ng2 was retarded and there was already too much in the game for it to not be comical.
>>712729201Wait, so Yakumo is the one who freed the dark dragon?
>>712635083 (OP)This doesn't look like a Ninja Gaiden game.
>>712733507yeah- he streamed too much naruto and my hero academia and thought by releasing the dark dragon it would give him powers to be like sasuke. ryu did not grow up watching that stuff in the hayausa village so he never had any outlandish ideas like that. before breaking the dark dragons seal there is a QTE where you type and its yakumo making a tweet about starting his villain arc. kind of a strange move on the developers part to break the fourth wall like this.
>>712731123No one hates Ninja Gaiden more than Ninja Gaiden fans.
I'm hoping that NG4 is a huge success just to see them seethe.
>>712731795Yeah the music was great and really fitting for NG imo.
The electric guitars are great.
The only thing I don't like is the English voice acting. I think Ryu sounds pretty great actually, but I'm really mixed on Yakumo, the new girl and other voices we've heard.
I'm excited though, Yakumo at least has lots of cool weapons. I'm still holding out hope for Ryu having some unlockable weapons in there.
>>712734851>make good game>gather large fanbase>make games with increasingly poor choices>fans complain because they know you can do betterwtf the ninja gaiden fans just hate ninja gaiden? how could this happen? we did everything right!
In Ninja Gaiden 2 the city of Tokyo is shown to have reached a Cyberpunk-ish level of technology with enormous multilayered highrises and tons of livable space hundreds of meters into the air, complete with flying cars in the background.
Seeing as NG4 likely takes place quite a lot of years after 2, it makes sense that it looks even more futuristic now.
Yeah, I'm thinking HE'S BACK
Nero, Ninja Edition
>>712635083 (OP)But thatโs clearly shinobi.
>>712735350Jesus christ you weebs will cry about anything English. The voice work is substantially better than generic deep voice jap.
>>712734851It's weird because all the other game franchises don't play alike and have their own issues too. But Ninja Gaiden fans are the most toxic
DMC1
DMC2 is NOT like DMC1 - fans upset
DMC3 is not like DMC1 or DMC2 - fans happy as shit OH MY THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING GAME EVER!!
DMC4 is not like DMC3 - Stun values removed, inputs were modernized (millionstab is not HOLD after Stinger in DMC4, no more mashing), the overall hardcoreness of DMC3 was slightly lifted in DMC4 and no one complain because DMC4 is fucking amazing combat
DMC5 has majors changes - no reversal, no inertia, no backside comboing enemy (enemies auto face your direction on hit), no turbo on PC etc. High Level players mad. Everyone else thinks DMC5 is the greatest combat game of all times.
Bayo 1
Bayo 2 has major changes - fans fine. High Level specialist are mad at first but in the end they work around those issues
Bayo 3 is nothing like Bayo 1 or Bayo 2 - 5 minutes your playing an action game, then 5 minutes youre on rails, then 5 more minutes you're having a godzilla battle, then repeat. Everyone mad but High Level Specialist like Bayo 3's combat over Bayo 2's combat problems so they're cool
Meanwhile in NinjaGaidenville - YOU NIGGERS DONT GET IT. ITAGAKI VISION IS EVERYTHING AND THAT VISION WAS NG2. THE TRUE VISION. ALL HAIL OUR MASTER ITAGAKI THE ONE AND TRUE GOD OF THIS WORLD!!! You will not play NG1 or NG3RE or NG4. YOU WILL PLAY NG2 FOREVER AND SHIT ON ALL OVER NG WORKS!!! ALL HAIL THE GOD ITAGAKI!!!
>>712635083 (OP)Looks like the best game in the series since Ninja Gaiden Black. That's why the NG2fags are so unhinged.
>>712735720Why are you mad, I said Ryu sounds great and that I am mixed on the other voices we've heard.
>>712635164You did since NG1.
>>712735642The city in NG4 doesn't look like Tokyo or even NYC, it just looks like any other generic cyberpunk shithole with clutter and neon lights.
>>712735795What the fuck are you on about, everyone that isn't a normal mode shitter agrees that Bayo 2 is a massive downgrade over the first.
>>712731123i'm giving platinum a chance for NG4 due to how TN fucked up NG3 and is forced to make NG3RE, not to mention they release it first on fucking wii u of all things
I really like Yakumo's spiral sword. Demo fucking when.
>>712735350I don't know what you mean, the English voices in Ninja Gaiden sound like 2000s/2010s kino to me. The girls don't like VTubers, Like, have you tried playing a modern game in English? All the fucking females sounds like Vtubers. But Seori sounds like she's from the early era Platinum stuff and Yakumo is a 2000s chunni and the voice perfectly matches just that. I kinda agree with
>>712735720 sometimes you Japan only weebs just hate things for simply not being Japanese.
>>712736196Did you even read? That's literally what it says.
>>712736327Never for you because it'll be an Xbox Series S|X exclusive demo like DMC5 first demo since Mircosoft is actually publishing the game. And I highly doubt you have a Series S|X.
>>712735720>>712736364The english voices in the trailer are genuinely terrible, you're just coping and have a hateboner against Japs and are probably some chinkoid.
>>712736609Post a video game with your approved English Voice Actor GOLDEN ANON STAMP right now. And I'll be the judge of that.
>>712736813https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGw3m93ANYc
>>712737073Sounds no different than any other 2000s game.
>Bandicamholy kino
>>712736604yeah I did and you spouted a bunch of bullshit
>fans fineI wouldn't consider someone that hasn't beaten the games on inf climax to be an actual fan
>but in the end they work around those issuesthere is no fucking workaround, bayo 2's enemy design and scoring system are inherently fucked
>>712735720>>712736364>>712736813https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgCIFlAi9Z0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6KsYZugBQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR3YGd4faBc
The english voices in Team Ninja games aren't always good
>>712731342>I don't remember <each game introducing new mechanics and being different from the last>
>>712635083 (OP)>troon colorsDropped, it's going to be woke.
>>712735795>You will not play NG1Most people who like NG2 also think NG1 is a good game, especially since it was the only other game in the series directed by Itagaki.
>>712737305>doesn't know what "work around" means in the content of high level players1, you have reading comprehension issues.
2, you will never be as good as the players that put out but you can pretend while on 4chan, thus, making you a filthy fucking casual
And 3, High Level Players are usually not hardcore fans, they're mostly combat engine enjoyers. Some of them are real fans though. That's why people put fans and players in two different categories because fan can mean multiple things while high level player only means one.
>another 500 post NG thread
good shit
>>712737732>Most peopleYeah, outside of /v/. But here on /v/ YOU WILL NOT MENTION OR SPEAK ABOUT NG1 OR NG3RE FOR WE ARE THE NG2 CULTIST. WE WERE MOLDED BY IT. WE DRINK THE BLOOD OF THE INNOCENT! THE CHUNNI LEVEL THAT BOIL INSIDE... MY BLADE IS THE SHARPEST IN THE UNIVERSE! WE ARE NINJA GAIDEN 2(TWO)
>>712735795Bayo 2 is a severe downgrade in every way possible. You don't need to play high level to understand downgrades. Even visuals aren't a plus, it's more colorful but there's so much visual garbage in a lot of stages or the actual designs are garbled mess that it doesn't stand out.
>>712731581The trailer already showed tengus, onis, imps, van gelfs, dark souls phantoms, the blue zombies or whatever they are, and the temu Urizen. The only industrial shit are the ddo samurais and the mini armadillo
>>712737964No? Even the most hardcore NG2 fan here also likes NG1, or at least NGB. They might dislike Sigma 1, but that's about it. 3RE is a different story, though. Really, I think you're just confusing NG2 fans with shitposters.
>>712737770how the fuck were I supposed to figure you meant ecelebs?
better yet who cares about yt fags? point is that the gameplay in 2 is NOT FUN and any fan of the first game will tell you that.
btw 3 is an even more divisive game. personally I have to wonder why they even bothered calling it a bayonetta game
Why are bayotrannies and kamiyafags being tribalistic in a Ninja Gaiden thread?
>>712729201>>712731795Shit. After listening again the music is really good.
>>712738270how much bullying will it take for you to kill yourself?
>>712738358Yeah the music is gonna be sick af https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmTASF3dYeI
>>712738267>point is that the gameplay in 2 is NOT FUN and any fan of the first game will tell you that.Literally no one said this, you're literally arguing with your inner demons, lmao. Like quite the post of the guy saying Bayo 2's combat is better than Bayo 1 or Bayo 2. Even in the original post you quoted it says everyone likes Bayo 3's combat more than Bayo 2's combat.
You're insane. Seek help.
is there any reason to use dragon sword in ng2? It's so shit compared to lunar
>>712738496>Kamen Rider W pfpI don't know who that is, but between liking NG2 and that, that person is based in my book.
>>712738591you claim that fans are "fine" with the changes of 2 which is a blatant lie
>>712737636>why are you complaining about a new mechanic in ng4 if ng2 and ng3 also introduced new mechanicsthere are levels to this argument. you need to stop thinking in black and white autism terms and think critically. yes-people criticized the OT finishers in NG2 but accepted it.they dont cover half the screen and travel through multiple enemies yards away with no start up charge. OT being the new mechanic in 2 is also just ryu using his weapon in a normal fashion to do something. His sword isnt getting a blood pumped throbbing boner extending it 20 feet. thats just changes the game at that point. people heavily criticized the steel on bone mechanic later in the next game-and people thought everything relating to the arm was annoying. ng1 and ng2 fans agree almost unanimously that game sucked ass. sometimes its better to just go back to the basics instead of trying to reinvent the wheel with increasingly retarded ideas.
>>712738653itagaki spammer is a confirmed tranny
>>712738687It's superior all around, much better mobility, individual moves and the synergy between them, the only thing lunar has over it is the mid-air launcher and 360UT.
>>712739443ever heard of false flagging?
>>712739682>that mage teleporting in only to die instantlyKino.
>>712739443Nah I am a straight white male, seethe chud.
>>712735795ninja gaidens changes over the years are not comparable to DMC. i like DMC by the way- but it had a rough start and the later games play better. DMC1 still has a lot of cool ideas in it though that i respect. Ninja gaiden stood out because they got the combat down with NGB which for all intents and purposes is the first game in the franchise. They didnt even need to make NGB they just decided to make a good game even better. Almost any changes they made to it were detrimental from that point forward or a trade off where one thing got better and something else got worse. thats where the arguing comes from. they already had a winning formula from the very start.
Dragon Sword be like "come at me lil nigga"
Lunar be like "alright get your ass back nigga. I need my personal space zone to be free of niggas"
>>712739682nta but i always prefer NG2's combat than ng3re, i honestly cant explain why
>>712739884For me it's the more advanced delimb system
>>712739818Bro... there was LITERALLY... let me say this again LITERALLY nothing on the planet earth that came close to DMC1's combat when DMC1 release. It was the Alpha and Omega of 3D combat design at the time. Saying it had a "rough start" is fucking crazy to ever say about the Grandfather of action games because had you played DMC1 on release during THAT ERA you would know... it was goated at the time. No one even thought we could reach the level of a DMC3... AND ON THE SAME CONSOLE!
>>712738148>lists a bunch of fiendsthat's what he said you stupid tranny fuck
>>712739260his argument is literally just different = bad without any thinking to it
and the charge sword attacks don't make the game play any more different than ut's do to the regular core gamepaly, they are too a high coverage option that costs something (UT's deal more damage, have slight hyper armor, a lot of iframes, they are easier to do, give free resources on hit, etc. BTW)
>>712740242>dark souls phantoms are fiends nowXhe said the game is going to be 80% industrial shit 20% fiends which makes no sense when the there's more of the latter
>>712739884Besides the obvious stuff, I don't like how 3RE's weapons feel so weightless. It just feels like I'm swinging weightless pieces of styrofoam.
>>712739682>mid-air launcher and 360UTthis is better than everything DS has