Thread 712726657

What did Asgore do that made Toriel so mad?

>>712726657 (OP)
is it rape? you are talking about rape right?

Requesting the eggsplode pic

>>712726657 (OP)
Being a spineless pushover. Women need no more reasons than that.

please tell me somebody saved that one anon's response to this image where asgore told kris to "sans" him

Tomorrow is the Festival.
Construct the WORST possible day for Asgore that ends in the Flower King dark world.

Toriel is upset that Asgore never gets into fistfights or alcoholism and never hit her

>>712726736
>>712726803
ANy actual serious theories? Why is this fandom fixated on shit like Spamton when literally nobody ask basic question like why is Kris the only human in a monster town or why are his parents divorced?

>All this debate on Kris' motivation
It's cus he's short

>>712726845
Asgore meets you, in person, for real

>>712726845
He drops his food on accident and Sans makes better pun about him being ex husband
Assgore goes nuclear and equips his infinity gauntlet

>>712726924
Sex with SUSIE

Fight me but I consider that music patterns from UT were overly used during Chapter 4. I would have preferred more unique songs rather than remixed ones.

>>712726815
Wouldn't Gaster be happy about this? He's the one that attached the soul to Kris.
I was under the impression he was in the player's corner.

>>712726845
Something involving Toriel either being drunk off her ass or Hungover as shit and cussing him out in public.

>>712726845
He sees kris x berdley at the festival

>>712726845
WORST way festival could go?
You play as Kris going on to festival alone only to witness Susie and Noelle kissing in the booth while Sans goes into the bathroom with Toriel

>>712726982
If Kris wasn't short, would he still be a huge sissy?

>>712726924
Toriel reads pulp romance where criminals violate the heroines and she was upset that her life is so boring

>>712726657 (OP)
bros, how do you move on from a woman? I had a fat gamer gf that embodied everything I would want and I don't see how I'd find anything like it again.

>>712726982
*they

>>712727131
>Roaring Knight assaults the Festival in the Light World

>>712726924
We talked about that during chapter 1 anon.

>>712726657 (OP)
Toriel's a huge cunt it doesn't take much to piss her off. She can't even say Carol's name and makes a scene at Church throwing her juice all over Rudy just for bringing up his own wife. She keeps referencing sin and sinning despite the Church not recognizing any concept of sin. Her two sons are all kinds of fucked up, Kris obviously and even Asriel would go to Church for confession (which the Church doesn't actually do) for bullshit as trivial as actions in a video game. She hooks up with a dude who has been in town for two days, drunk off her ass, and totally unconcerned that her child is still out after dark in the rain when literally the night before she called the cops and stopped Susie from walking home because she found her tires slashed in her own driveway. 24 hours later she doesn't give a shit.

>>712726924
My guess is that it's related to Dess. Given that Asgore has a black shard and, if I remember right, talks about proving something wasn't his fault, I'd guess Asgore was there when Dess died or disappeared and fought the Roaring knight, or something else that the black shard might come from. Toriel seemingly does not like Carol but that might have nothing to do with Asgore.

>>712727202
*She

>>712726989
He seems like a chill guy to hang out with. I'd be nicer to him than Toriel, not a high bar but still

>>712727202
Kris is a he.
Because he shares a room with his brother.
There is no universe where Toriel would leave a young adopted girl with a teenage boy for years at a time, sharing clothes, even..

>>712726845
>festival starts
>flower sales at an all time low for some reason, kris doesnt have time for him
>keep his chin up high as always
>sees sans and toriel yucking it up at the festival (its played off as a gag, but he just walks away)
>rudy approaches him while hes alone
>talks with rudy for a while but rudy is rushed back to the hospital midway, he really isnt doing well and the nurse explains how extremely hard it was for him to even be there
>asgore a bit disheveled, he needs a win finally, right now
>enacts his black shard plan to toriel (whatever it is) but essentially blows up in his face, makes an ass of himself
>pours his heart out to her for one last time despite that, she doesnt believe him and starts yelling at him (this is where we get the "oh thats what asgore did as the police chief" reveal)
>finally fucks off, defeated
>tries whatever he wanted to do with the black shard, only shows thing no matter what he does: him alone in his flower shop.
>just goes inside, locks the door, sets fire to the flowers, and sits down in the basement, looking at pictures of when he had a happy family
>dark world is susie's idea (cant we btfo the fire if we just make a dark world on top of it?) and kris (against the knights wishes) making a fountain inside

>>712727028
>sans does the exact "eggs husband" joke except this time toriel laughs her ass off
there would never be any man more cucked

>>712727313
>>712727369
*they

>>712727369
>There is no universe where Toriel would leave a young adopted girl with a teenage boy
Kris is not a girl either, retard.

so what the fuck happens at the beginning of chapter 4?
>kris and susie are in front of the fountain
>susie starts telling kris to wake up
>kris wakes up (the fountain is not show being sealed) to toriel telling them to wake up
so when was the fountain sealed? who sealed it? did kris dream about what just happened or what?

>>712726924
>being a corkboard schizo
>hounding her for what seems like everyday
>gets the hint that she doesn't want him back but does it anyway
>using his son as a proxy by making him the delivery person
>dess incident
>can't sell flowers for shit
>is now the holiday janny

>>712727413
That really might do it.

>>712727369
I'd make a joke about how the fandom here thinks Azzy would rape Femkris but that wouldn't even be ironic anymore given the state of these threads

She found out he's been dicking down Carol for years.

>>712727423
Trolling outside of /b/ is against 4chan's rules.

If this symbolism wasn't enough that the story ends on Krusie i don't know what else might convince the yurifags

>>712727423
>all Toby had to do was officially give Kris they/them pronouns to make incels screech in rage
Absolutely based

>>712726924
Why is Kris wearing the eggman force ones?

>>712727503
it was clearly sealed if they're in the house in the light world. it's just a little storytelling trick to skip past all the boring minutae that happens in between midnight and the next day

>>712727423
*Nigger

>>712726657 (OP)
Fat guy in a little coat over and over and she's sick of it.

>>712727202
Kris dicked the doe with something and it wasn't determination

>>712727575
>he replied to himself

>>712727585
His biological father is Eggman, that's why he keeps being given eggs.

If Toby wanted people to care about pronouns he should've released the game a decade ago when anyone still gave a shit.

>>712727423
*because he/she are LITERALLY TWO NIGGAS

>>712727376
that sounds absolutely fucking retarded

>>712727369
Pretty much. And he also only wear male clothing. If Toby tried to at least pretend he's not a boy he would give him female or pink clothing for cowboy or gangster. Yet he is always an emo looking boy

>>712727369
Toriel is a belligerent who only keeps up the moral grandstanding around company

>Kris gets to school early because the Vessel sequence didn't happen to delay the SOUL's possession
>Alphys pairs Kris up with Noelle and Berdly because Susie hasn't shown up yet to interrupt them
>Kris, Noelle and Berdly go to the closet to look for the chalk and fall into the Dark World
>Snowgrave Route happens but it's in Chapter 1 instead of 2
>Due to Kris's early arrival, the time saved by freezing puzzles and being too [STRONG] to get knocked out and locked in jail, Kris and Noelle speedrun the shit out of Chapter 1 and seal the fountain before class even ends (unlike Chapter 1 when it was hours later)
>Kris goes back to sleep in class, needing a rest after the stress of proceeding and icing Berdly
>The events of n3w3st_g1rl play out
>Noelle stays behind with Alphys to look for the "mysteriously missing school supplies" a second time elsewhere because she couldn't find it in the closet with Kris and Berdly (the latter of which is now dead)
>Kris is woken up by Susie and blocks the apple with "gamer reaction speed" because Kris has experience holding out a shield to block attacks (likely shielded Noelle from the King's final attack instead of Susie)
>As it says in the prophecy, the heroes defeated the King and "stopped the dragon" (Kris mumbling something that makes Susie let go and run off)

>Noelle's mind seemingly "blanked out" whatever Kris said to Susie
>Chapter 4 shows with Noelle's reaction to "Because it wasn't a dream" that she immediately represses the memory when she hears words that remind her of Snowgrave
>The word Kris said in response to Susie saying "someone might make you disappear"
>was "Proceed"

>>712726924
>why is Kris the only human in a monster town
he fell, Asriel found him and lead him back to town and the Dremurr family adopted him

>>712726845
>day begins
>another letter from carol warning about the rent
>no pickles in the fridge, just a few eggs that your son who never visits left behind as a joke
>eat eggs
>eggs taste bad, finish them anyway
>they are inexplicably in the fridge, untouched
>too depressed to care
>people don't take flowers
>see bone man with ex wife and your family Friends
>makes joke at your expense
>everyone laughs, even your boy toy
>that's it
>bring out the schizo rant, how you were right all along
>your kid looks away, ashamed
>ex wife cusses at you and outs the reason she left you in front of the whole town
>boytoy keels over from embarrassment

We must ensure to create a perfect environment for Susie and Kris to feel comfortable and safe in order for them initate mating and thus create a new protag for Deltarune 2.

>>712727861
Sound like that one story Toby Fox made in the past

Carol>Toriel

>>712727605
okay kris, that's not going to convince me not to ask about the "boring minutae" that you were up to

>>712727621
*they replied to themself

>>712727540
That's basic ass anime shit. It's like saying Naruto ended with him marrying Sasuke. You can be soulmates but not official romantic partners

Where does Susie live?

>>712727948
Kris and Noelle have a kid and the Undertale franchise gets its first female/deer monster half breed protagonist, sorry.
It's a spellsword that can choose melee or ice/healing magic to specialize in.

>>712728120
probably in those apartments in east hometown

>>712728120
I assume the room you see when Ralsei is explaining the Dark World is hers, but I don't think there are any hints beyond that.

>>712727947
>another letter from carol warning about the rent
But according to Toriel, Carol is the one funding the flower shop.
If you talk to Ice Wolf twice he even says the mayor had him buy a bunch of flowers from Asgore's shop to decorate for the festival

I just think mizzles are neat

Alright, what the fuck is up with this guy? At first it seemed like he was just a power-hungry schizo that thought power would set them free, but the sheer amount of foreshadowing in his rants makes me believe he's far more important than we could ever know. Wasn't he supposedly a last minute addition? Why does he know so much?

>>712728096
Kek

>>712727540
yes...!
YES!
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE IN THE STORY I CARE ABOUT
KRIS NEEEEEEEED TO PUT HIS PEEPEE IN TEEN FUCKMEAT
ROOOOOAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
TOBY FOX SHOULD MAKE A REAL PORN GAME NOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>712727524
Their relationship is purely professional

>>712726845
>Construct the WORST possible day
Fuck no, this is how it's gonna go.

>Festival shenanigans with Kris, Susie, Noelle, Berdly, and the rest
>Asgore would love to spend time with his everyone, but he's busy selling flowers
>And then a Dark Fountain is opened up on the festival grounds
>Semi-normal adventure with The Fun Gang, but most of the classmates are brought in due to the entire town being at the festival
>Gotta go collect them all and get them somewhere safe
>Most of the enemies are flower-based
>No sign of Asgore
>And then the Knight shows up and starts causing a hell of a problem
>Titan round 2, and also the Knight is there
>GOOD LUCK CHUMPS~!
>And then Asgore comes out of nowhere and just fucking bodies the Knight while The Fun Gang is keeping the titan in check
>Takes all the powered-up schoolkids to take down the Titan alongside The Fun Gang

>Asgore finds out what really happened, that he didn't finish the Knight off last time they squared off
>Ralsei is surprised that anyone could have beat The Knight and sealed the fountain without him having heard of it
"Seal a what now?"
YOU DIDN'T SEAL THE FOUNTAIN!? ARE YOU AN IDIOT!?
>As it turns out, Asgore left a dark fountain in the town's shelter, which is the direct cause of the events of the game
>He had his victory, then fucked up and ruined everything by not bothering do anything except close the door to the shelter
>His one big victory of his life was the start of everything going to shit
>And now everyone in the town knows it
>Also his flowers are all ruined

2nd win against The Knight, his greatest achievement, and somehow it all got worse for him.

>>712728242
He's just a corrupted program, Anon
It didn't mean anything

>>712728107
>It's like saying Naruto ended with him marrying Sasuke
it should've

>>712728120
In the apartments in the east of Hometown.
If you check the door there, she'll say she'd rather go to Kris's house instead.

>>712728187
then what was the letter in ch. 1 for?

My question is where are Kris and Susie headed off to at the end of Ch4

What is the meaning behind this scene?

>>712728296
A large part of his foreshadowing came true. It just doesn't make sense to believe his schizophrenic ramblings were correct out of sheer luck.

status update on my godforsaken rim-undertale colony now that my computer has unshat itself
>Undyne now has a archotech eye, psylink, and few extra bionics
>Chara had a second child and third one on the way despite being on low pregnancy
>dess has a psylink to fufull her roaring knight cosplay
>Kris is Varik's son
>Chara and her husband are madly in love while Asriel and Dess are perpetually on the verge of a divorce dess might of also eaten a guy

>>712728372
Once Susie figures out the soul and knight thing? conflict, followed by reconciliation.

>>712728372
kris stays behind at his house since he's chained by the balls, susie sleeps at the church

>>712726924
>why is Kris the only human in a monster town or why are his parents divorced?
we've asked those questions a thousand times and the answer to the former is a bookshelf away, but Kris is too much of a heel-dragging whiny little bitch to pick up some history books. That little twerp can get bent for denying me Deepest Lore.

Went to replay chapter 3, and Knight is... fun? I am an absolute shitter, I always end up tilting on Jevil, I felt like I was desperately clawing my way through during Gerson's fight, but when fighting Knight I got to the last attack long before the need for second wind. I made an executive decision to use my secret technique take a break and try again, since my performance began to worsen, but this fight just feels doable, I do not feel like I'm bashing my head against the wall.

>>712728392
Kris thought they looked cool as fuck but Susie wasn't impressed so they're embarrassed

>>712728372
they still need to find the keys to enter the bunker to rescue undyne they just got sidetracked by the church thing

>>712727494
I think you're forgetting nonbinares are still something. They got some genitals

>>712728242
To me Deltarune seems to be a game about escapes
Spamton represents advertising and is always present because of that. He wants to sell Kris on being a big shot. The TV and Internet bosses just brush him aside/dumpster him because advertising but he is ready to sell Kris a fantasy at any time for that sweet Kromer.
Now all Spamton needs is a blimp with his face on it.

>>712728204
Mizzles and Elnina are the cutest things in this game yet. Glad we're finally getting more cute creatures with pointy snouts

>>712728293
Isn't Kris the only one who can seal fountains, because he's got (You)?

Toriel hates Asgore cause she thinks he is a coward for giving up on the Dess case and the reason he was kicked off the force is so he can continue in secret

>>712728424
I was quoting Ralsei after the fight lol

>>712728424
>A large part of his foreshadowing came true.
man

>>712727202
it honestly concerns me a little how many people care this much about pronouns
like this is the opposite side of the horseshoe from that bald dude everyone kept posting, people theming their entire online presence around what is essentially a goddamn unconfirmed headcanon of the potential meaning of a character's pronouns

>>712726657 (OP)
Is this the thread?

>>712728449
Knight is like Sans where each time the order of attacks is the exact same so it's easy to feel yourself improving at it.

>>712728565
The broken home still happens outside of snowgrave too though?

>>712728392
I bought a butterfly knife from a mall ninja store when I was 16. I fully understand this scene.

Meltdownfags are gonna be disappointed like charàfags when chapter 2 came out.

>>712728485
Potentially. If Susie can create a fountain, even a shitty one, it stands to reason she could also seal it.
I think it has more to do with being a Lightener than anything. Kris wouldn't seal the fountain, since he's working with the Knight, so (You) do it instead.

>>712728624
>but what if it could get
>even brokener

>>712728587
*it honestly concerns me a little how many people care ttheir much about pronouns

>>712728392
You hand the knife HANDLE FIRST, you little shit! Didn't Toriel taught you any manners? And then Susie grabs the blade too, it's like those theories about her being into self-harm are true.

>>712728392
why does kris pose like a slut during this scene

>>712728449
Seam's dialog if you beat him makes it so worth it

Is he the most divorced man in videogame history?

So uhm
Is UNDERTALE a darkworld ?

>>712728814
I'm rooting for Divorce King.
He needs some primo pussy.

>>712728781
Because he is one
Why do you think he's so good at flirting?

>>712728515
>Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Being high and mighty only serves you so well when you have nothing to argue back;
>Me saying i don't like doing evil routes means i'm acting high and mighty
No? It's my personal preference. I don't like them so I don't do them.

>>712728825
Undertale is actually another Lightworld, not a darkworld.

>Toby Fox released the Deltarune the week before national protests were planned to stop his fanbase of gays from revolting in the streets since they were just shipping on Twitter instead
Tricky Tony

>>712728825
Undertale is tobys test run for deltarune which is why undertale has deltarunes cast in it.

>>712728430
>Asriel and Dess are perpetually on the verge of a divorce
like father like son...

>>712728825
Seeing as Sans can't get back Deltarune (the place where it rained), no

>>712726845
He gets up in an actual asylum since nobody believes him, and then Rudy dies.

>EGG
THEORYSCHIZOS
WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS

>>712728449
I'm still throwing myself at the knight because I'm a shitter and my old man brain can't handle diagonal attacks
I'll get there
Eventually

>>712728825
>undertale is a dark world made by kris stabbing gaster and opening a dark world in his SOUL

>>712728825
No. It's a story Susie, Kris and Noelle will write for their school project. Guess who is going to add a pointless lesbian romance.

>>712728942
WELL
THERE IS A MAN HERE

>>712728942
this one is just there as a meme.
it's true Papyrus was behind a tree in that one official art, but it's just a meme

>>712728891
>calls the song where you mow the lawn SOUTH OF THE BORDER!!
what did tobert mean by this?

>>712728663
Personally I have faith in the Susie meltdown, Toby wouldn't use Vs. Susie just one time

>>712727202
>Troons totally aren't violent, guys!!

>>712728697
>Snowgrave has (you) force Kris to hook his mom up with more randos to break his home even more

>>712728979
plot twist it's susie but the characters she pairs are stand ins for kris and noelle

>>712728825
that'd make no sense considering gaster basically opens a dark world in undertale

>>712727423
... because they are two niggas!

>>712729017
i only think of trimming susie's bushy lizard pubes

Papyrus faga DESPERATELY trying anything they can to cling to relevancy

>>712729029
Vs. Susie clearly isn't even complete.

>>712728942
Undertale is a dark world made from the dust of the townsfolk post-roaring. Asriel got dusted into Ralsei and the process removed his memories unlike Gerson, so whatever that was happened to the whole town. Papyrus is an irredeemable piece of a shit in Deltarune, but ended up being reformed into the lovable chad we know today. The EGG is a remnant from DT, left here by sans who merely had a machine to survive the roaring.

>>712728587
>like this is the opposite side of the horseshoe from that bald dude everyone kept posting
That guy was a reaction to these types of retards.
The pronouns autism came first. People were making fun of Xe/Xir/Xama/Ximbabwe 15 years ago when Tumblr was losing its collective mind.

>>712726736
Well it's a Indie game so it's wise but also sad to assume that might be the cause. Sad the more I think about it.

>>712728915
>which is why undertale has deltarunes cast in it.
that's not true. undertale characters were created for undertale. the decision to include them in deltarune came later. toby has said that his original idea was to have humans in the light world that turn into monsters in the dark world.

>>712728624
Kris doesn't get killed by Spamton in either route so that doesn't contradict anything.

undertale is not a dark world because
>it ends with everyone standing under the sun
>the menu is the light world menu
>cell phones work

>>712729029
>>712729141
Susie vs. Lancer was direct foreshadowing for the imminent Susie meltdown
>overhears Lancer talking about keeping the fun gang locked in jail forever and seemingly helping the enemy
>Kris has been getting a bit reckless with talking to the creepy voice on the phone recently
>Lancer refuses to fight and makes his attacks miss because he doesn't want to hurt Susie
>Kris will refuse to fight and make (you)r attacks miss because he doesn't want to hurt Susie
>"Hey, wanna see what happens to traitors?"
>It's been reiterated even harder in the new chapters that Susie hates when people don't tell her the full deal

>>712729029
There's a bizarre absence of Susie's leitmotif anywhere since chapter 1
https://x.com/tobyfox/status/1173278892167221250
There's this unused version of Lost Girl and that's it

>>712729323
I hope they bring this back with the old man's leitmotiffs in the middle
https://youtu.be/uWJJ8nywk-M

Why did Toby make her like this?

>>712728587
>like this is the opposite side of the horseshoe from that bald dude everyone kept posting, people theming their entire online presence around what is essentially a goddamn unconfirmed headcanon of the potential meaning of a character's pronouns
It's funny you say that because the pronouns in general is a headcanon of their real lives being something that's not male/female.

These people were getting people fired over not using their pronouns, ruining an online community is nothing by comparison

There is no undertale connection.

>>712729359
A small fraction of her theme plays when she yells at Ralsei in chapter 4

>>712729323
You are forgetting an important thing - Ralsei is in cahoots with Knight as well. He will stand in front of Kris and ask Susie to kill him instead.

>>712728825
No. It's just a canon AU.

>>712726924
I have no more theories.
I refuse to make more, because every time I do, they come true.
And then, they make things worse.

>>712729423
Deltarune lives within its shadows

>>712729423
>It's raining somewhere else
>The place where it rained

>>712728587
Yeah but when they do it, it's GOOD. Check your privilege, shitlord

>>712729304
Some part of him probably died when he cut Spamton's final string which only resulted in him dying.

>>712729603
>GOOD. Check your privilege, shitlord
2015 called, they want their stereotypes back

>>712729401
Because toby is based, mom NTR is kino

>>712729423
>The main cast all living in Hometown.
>The first thing we hear is about Asriel coming home.
>Gaster's... everything.
>Spamton NEO.
>Gerson.
>Every area so far parallels an Undertale area.
Deltarune NEEDS Undertale to live.

What's his endgame?

>>712729401
If that shirt is true why doesn't she love Asgore?

>>712729669
Hell yeah

>>712726924
i genuinely think the mike joke made people self conscious about schizo theories on accident lol

>>712729640
Only when 2015's mental illness fucks off and stop thinking 'They' is a gender.

>>712726657 (OP)
I think it's tied to the disappearance of Dees, that's what we see him plotting in the Holiday house in chapter 4. He may have been blamed for the disappearance, or he was in charge of looking after her that day and lost track of her. Either way it tore his marriage apart and became his obsession.

>>712729401
i hate her so much but it makes masturbating to the cuck porn more intense

>>712729703
Create the first game with an explicit HMoFA ending.

>>712729385
>Vs. Susie 2 with the freedom motif
>Susie is the one with the pen of hope, the only one free from the prophecy's bleak ending
Toby please I would cream my pants

>>712729743
The absolute fucking STATE.

>>712728587
The fox hasn't said beat-for-beat "Kris's pronouns are they/them", but the biggest piece of evidence I've seen it being the case is in the Ch1 livestream where Toby corrects the fangamer guys at 3:29:00
https://www.youtube.com/live/rksOYId-cNA?si=enxjuGOtFGRHmX_n

>>712729703
the soul is griffith and the eclipse is me making hilarious choices because lol

>>712729743
too real

>>712729703
>Hmmm I wonder what happened if I do THIS
>Oh man that's crazy
>Lets keep going

>>712728204
>Vaporeon
>Chillet
>Mizzle
The sexy vaguely water dog trifecta has been manifested

>>712729703
(Our) endgame is absolute completion of the experiment.

>>712729769
don't make fun of me

>>712729743
i love her so much because it makes masturbating to the cuck porn more intense

>>712728587
Man, nobody gives a shit about the pronouns but the most autistic faggots imaginable. Take a look at Deltarune discussion on other sites and you'll frequently see even the fags with tranny flags in their names call Kris he/him.

>>712729793
I want to live the rest of my life under Tasque Manager's ass, that is all.

>>712729725
I couldn't care less what someone calls themself, out of all the things in life I have to worry about it's not even on my radar.

>>712729743
honestly i cant even look at toriel without getting hard now tbdesu

>>712729775
Kris is a vessel, he has a gender but that gender is (You)rs. 'They' is appropriate when the gender is not known.

>>712727740
kris can wear ribbons, also he hates the church clothes

I've seen so many instances of people chimping out because "Kris" and "he" were in the same sentence even when the pronoun wasn't referring to Kris at all
People just want to get angry and deliberately look for Kris misgendering

It's not that difficult.
Toriel and Sans don't know about the difficulties Kris and Susie are facing. Otherwise they wouldn't be jitter bugging. She's not the worst mom, she literally helped Susie when she was at her loneliest.

>>712728204
don't forget to farm them for revival mints

>>712729685
the best characters are all deltarune original though, really makes ya think

>>712729854
>>712729919
Cope

>>712728107
Toby would make Naruto and Sasuke canon tho

>>712729743
You are a literal cuckhold lmao.

>>712729775
>that stream
Toby referenced "Jockington grows the beard" all the way back in 2021.....

>>712729743
kek I never had attachment to a character I saw in cuck porn, you might be right

>If you keep killing enemies and use an ice spell you can kill a party member and unlock an evil route
>if you proceed with this evil route you eventually take over the player irl and mindbreak one of the party members with a realistic blood effect
Snowgrave genuinely is written like a creepypasta if it was real

>>712729902
>I couldn't care less what someone calls themself,
*Himself
And that's why you get tumblrtards having seizures over not calling the video game character 'They'.

>>712729919
kris is their own person, if you havent get it yet you missed the point of the entire game

>>712729970
you don't have to tell me something i already know

>>712728257
this but unironically

Name 1 (one) reason Kris doesn't deserve to suffer

>>712727540
The game ends with you being in a throuple with Kris and Susie. Would that make you happy?

I just noticed deltarune.wiki and the deltarune wiki on fandom are different things and the former seems much better than the latter. I've been using the wrong site all this time...

>>712727191
You never really move on, you just distract yourself with someone else

>>712727423
Thats fitting that he's living in a village of monsters than

>>712729965
With what? You being male and 'they' not being a gender?

>>712729963
I mean, that should be the case when the Undertale cast barely does anything in the game.

Kris is a guy, but it's not because le self insert player projection or whatever
He's a guy because he's a guy
He's a separate character with his own will that you're controlling as a subversion of self-insert RPG protags, and he's a guy

Does anyone have a video of that scene where the soul lights up and susie and ralsei jump in front of the knight lasers for kris?

That was cool.

>>712729743
>Swore of wanking to anything undertale and deltarune related
>Turns out Toriel's a whore and I've been modelling my demeanor after sans
>This scene happens
Hoo boy. Now I can just be myself I suppose.

>>712729935
A guy just slashed her tires and seemingly murdered the police chief last night

>>712729935
She's definitely far from the worst mother ever, but it's very rude to be blasting music in the middle of the night when someone you live with is upstairs trying to sleep even when it's not a parent-child situation, and it being that just makes it worse. She's still far from an awful mother, but she's not perfect and that moment shows it.

>>712730008
Kris is a vessel and his gender aligns with the players so you can think of him however you wish. Cope, seethe, dilate, that's the point.

>>712729743
absolutely masterful psyop

>>712730053
I don't hate him, unless he's the one who caused our vessel to fuck off. In which case I do and I can hold a grudge. I want him back

>>712727202
Kris isn't given any gender, it's up to the player to interpret. This was made clear even in Undertale where Toby said this outright. Which makes it extremely fucking retarded to see people insist so heavily to force pronouns on other when it's up to the player themselves.

>>712726989
>Asgore meets you, in person, for real

>"I urge you not to look on the internet."

>"Erm...how so?"

>"If you thought the skelefaggot being near your ex-wife was bad..."

>>712729994
Maybe Toby is the only good creepypasta writer in existence

>>712730059
Honestly it's incredibly based that so many wikis are moving away from Shitdom.

>>712730140
nope, if they were a vessel they wouldnt care about you controlling their body

>>712729902
>I couldn't care less what someone calls themself, out of all the things in life I have to worry about it's not even on my radar.
>By the way isn't it fucking weird how mentally ill people keep ruining the communities I'm in because they care a whole bunch about how I call fictional characters?
KEKAROOOOOOOOO

>>712730053
Because it would sadden his friends and family. That's the only reason I can think of why he shouldn't get red misted by You at this point.

>>712729994
At this point snowgrave is 99% the exact same fucking content.

>kris violently beats the shit out of us
>"erm, why is my self-insert doing this???"
only /v/

>>712730175
holding out on a prunsel reference

>>712729743
I've generated an unholy amount of Toriel mom NTR ever since the game came out. I should probably see a shrink.

What are they watching?

>>712729552
>>712729685
most of those are nothing more than references/homages to Undertale
so far there isn't any literal connection to it that would require people to seek playing that game to fully understand Deltarune
that's like saying people that they need an understanding on Phantom Blood to fully get Steel Ball Run

>Mother NTR
Genuinely do not understand this.
My mother is a shit person and seperated from my father when I was a young teenager, idgaf about the guys she's fucking, she's a despicable bitch and I take every action she does as a lesson to be learned on what not to do in my own life.

>>712730053
What he did to fix Snowgrave.

>>712729930
i still can't get over that one fan ARG that had everybody in the comments coming up with a blatantly wrong interpretation of what was going on just because one of the characters in a conversation referred to kris as 'he'
funniest part is i'm pretty sure the 'misgendering' was intentional because asriel's meant to be a bit of a dick in it, but even THAT'S not kosher these days

>>712730210
Kris is a vessel, and he doesn't have a choice That's why he's mad.
Play the fucking game.

>>712730175
The blank text box is literally straight out of a creepypasta, it sounds like the kind of thing the protagonist would go
>"damn must be a weird glitch" and so I kept playing

>>712729743
I swear anyone that faps to the undertale/deltarune goats is some kind of mentally handicapped.

>>712730175
The chara jumpscare ruined the geno run in undertale

>>712729775
I hope they do ch2, closest thing to a developer commentary

>>712726924
He saw Asriel (accidentally?) kill Dess in the bunker and helped him cover it up, and Toriel couldn't accept what they'd done, so she sent her son away, divorced her husband, and spends most days getting blackout drunk and being a shit mom to Kris, which is why Kris acts the way he does.

>>712728392
Kris: embarrassed
Susie: slightly concerned

>Pronoun thread
Video games?

>>712730245
you should post it in /furntr/

>>712729743
laugh at this cuck faggot
NOW

>>712730137
>>712730130
yeah those are valid points and I've thought of it too.
i just don't think calling her Whoriel is fair either. Sans on the other hand I feel a bit weird about. He's kind of just a cunt to Kris and crew for no real reason.
Is he even aware of the third wall in this game? he seemingly is (or the soul?)on the very first interaction.

>>712730053
Kris is eloquent, suffering from childhood trauma and Susie loves his guts.
But yeah he's gunna suffer, he's gotta.

>>712730175
Kris holding his mouth shut so you don't get a chance to say anything that would ruin his life

Susie watching Kris' mouth move but his hands and lips sealed shut.

>>712730254
you need to understand that like 99% of male sexual fetishes are born from frustrations with their mothers.

>>712730273
I'm mad I'm playing as his faggot ass

>>712729743
>Torielfags are just NTRman audience who had a fucked up childhood themselves
I expected it. Everyone beside Krusie shippers have some kind of mental illness

>>712730241
I can't tell how much of the ICE-E conspiracy theories are serious or just shitposting.

>>712730345
Pronouns are the most video game related topic, chud. Haven't you been watching people melt down over Kris?

>>712730358
I think Sans isn't different at all, he's just interacting with a teenager and other adults instead of a tubby little Chinese child.

>>712726845
Assuming that he saw something related to the Dark World and Dess' dissapearance and that's the thing he mentions nobody believing him about

>tries to prove the existence of the dark world to everyone at the festival
>fails miserably
>is embarrassed in front of the whole town
>Toriel blows up on him, worse than ever before
>something something sans

>>712730372
>Tell him to say what's on his mind here.
>He keeps his mouth closed.
What's he so afraid of? Being rejected? Getting too attached?

>>712728825
UT and DR will have to connect at one point

>>712730053
it'd make susie sad

>>712726924
Idk but theres a book about taking care of your human in the library, that must mean others were there at some point but they were treated like pets for the monsters

>>712730401
>beside Krusie shippers
Shipping of any kind is inherently mentally ill

>>712729743
i expected it sooner but im glad the mask has finally come off

>>712730452
Him being outted would only hurt more

>>712729919
>he's stuck in a cutscene haha
>*Kris cannot reach it*
>*they're stuck*
Who else would toby be speaking about? The vessel is stuck in bunker hell. Kris is just some twat we're forced to possess and makes for a pretty shitty vessel tbdesu

>>712730345
When even Toby is stopping an entire interview to correct pronouns because apparently that's more important than the game, then it's video game related.

So what do the yellow and pink colors mean?
Sure, it's the color for the schizoshit and the weird route but what does it represent?
Knowing Toby theres a meta reason

Toriel is so based. She's literally corrupting players into becoming cucks for her

>>712730452
Literally why would Kris randomly say "susie I love you" after being asked about what happened in a scene that traumatized the shit out of him what are you smoking

>>712730253
mmm

>>712730468
extremely low bar for "mentally ill"
your grandmother was shipping kirk and spock, you know

>>712730452
What's on his mind is that he has a red heart puppeting him while adults puppet his life around to make him hurt his friends, but he can't just say "If I don't do what the Knight says, they're going to hurt Dess or Noelle" to Susie because her first reaction would be to violently attack everybody involved like a psycho.

So where the fuck is Kris' SOUL if we're not his?

>>712730401
>Everyone beside Krusie shippers have some kind of mental illness
lole

>>712730345
no it's an adventure thread newfag

>>712730053
It would make Susie sad to see one of her friends being hurt. That's pretty much the biggest reason why I'm not on the "KILL KRIS DREEMURR" train. But if something, ANYTHING happened to my vessel...

>>712727575
>all Toby had to do was officially give Kris they/them pronouns to make incels screech in rage
Nobody respects those pronouns because they're retarded. The only people I WOULD accept they/them with is Intersex people, and that community has already said they don't want any part in this made-up pronoun faggotry, because they see themselves as either male/female since just having a genetic mutation doesn't give you Tumblr/Twitter brain, aka retardation.

>>712730456
I would eat her sweaty ass

>>712730536
i don't think it traumatized him, hell, it made him feel alive. the soriel scene traumatized him

>>712730536
What, what? He's not saying anything.
He could've just said, "Everything will be okay". But he goes and seals his lips when we say "Say what's on your mind".
It doesn't leave much room for the imagination when he does something like that.

>>712730126
>I've been modelling my demeanor after sans

>>712730245
have you posted any of it? i never really use ai but i would for that

>>712730572
He needs to get over it and realize his life is like a video game trying hard to beat the stage all while I am still collecting cooooiiinsss

>>712730508
>Who else would toby be speaking about?
Again, 'They' is an appropriate pronoun when you don't know the gender of the subject.
Kris isn't a 'They'. Kris is what you make of him. (You) don't know Kris' gender. That doens't mean they're some amorphous, tumblr blob like bluesky has taken to calling him

>>712730508
no no no no no you're seeing the forest for the trees
kris is a vessel
as in one of the grayed-out niggas you make at the very start

>>712729963
It's actually incredibly difficult to give a shit about any of the UT cast now
They feel too flat

>>712730643
Thinking of puns was good mental exercise at least.

>>712730450
Years of fan art warped my perception of him. He's always been a cunt in hindsight.
A bit understandable given seeing so many outcomes makes you jaded. But still.

>>712729893
That's fair, both are good

>>712730604
I'm not mentally ill

I CAN DO ANYTHING

>>712730724
NIPPLE

>>712730741
I AM NOT CRAZY... I am not crazy... I know he swapped those scenes, I know it was proceed

>>712730768
YOU LIE

>>712730604
Its the only healthy of mind and body ship
Suselle is reflecting the yuri cuck shit mentality or homosexuality of the shipper
Kriselle is some abuse/rape shit affecting the mind of shippers
Toriel and Sans are NTR trauma recolection of their shippers
Krusie is just a wish fulfilment of a innocent heterosexual relationship

>>712727068
Gaster wasn't necessarily the implanter. The narrator voice seems to change as the player's custom-made vessel is discarded.

Starwalker is the only NPC that I am always happy to see. Everyone else has gotten annoying at one point or another.

>>712727494
>I'M NOT RIGHT OR LEFT HANDED I'M NON-BINARY HANDED
And before you come at me with ambidextrous people, they all still have a favored hand. You are living in a delusional fantasy realm where you think that because gender is a spectrum that it is still not a spectrum within a binary. Retarded cunts, the lot of you.

>>712730670
>the creator doesn't know the gender of their character
Look man, it came straight from the dog's mouth and I haven't seen Toby say anything otherwise since. I think the pronoun bit is intentional.

All i'm learning from Deltarune is that if you're autistic and a shut-in, you should not be forced into any kind of relationship and spend your life alone. It's ok, not everyone's made for love

>>712730827
there is no "healthy of body and mind" ship brother

>>712730865
buble

>>712730827
I think shippers are fruitcakes and always have been ever since I first encountered them on Digimon fansites 25 years ago

>>712729743
Glad I wasn't the only one

>>712730895
Anon this is the most retarded analogy I have ever seen

>>712729775
https://youtu.be/rksOYId-cNA?t=2192
>Jockington grows a beard. Spoilers.
damn you toby

>>712730914
this watercooler is pissing me off

>>712730907
It’s over.

>>712727369
THEY DON’T HAVE A SPARE ROOM

>>712730615
who are you even talking to with that? lol you're screeching into a void dude for no reason. complete non sequitur opinion that no one asked for, you're exemplifying exactly the scenario he just described.

>>712730602
It's in the birdcage of the corner of my room.

>>712730827
I look like Kris so I just see Krusie shit and pretend that's me
>inb4: I'm missing the point of the game
idc yeah I'm a self inserter so what

>>712730956
Bible

>>712730175
RUN

>[hyperlink blocked] is LOVE
>Spamton literally says we're making love with our hochi mama (Noelle)
Laying it on a bit thick there aren't you Toby

>>712730697
>carefully create a vessel
>gets discarded
>new one hits me with a wiffle bat and talks back
piece of shit game, knew I shouldn't have signed that shitty agreement

>>712730865
Starwalker is awesome.
No one can deny that.

>>712730902
>I think the pronoun bit is intentional.
It is, (You) are just misinterpreting what it means. Maybe intentionally, so you can continue to live in Tumblr's insane headspace.

Kris is a man, or a woman, (You) don't know what it is, so the appropriate pronoun is 'They'. That means mean Kris isn't a he or a she, that means you are calling him a they. I can call him a he however I want because I'm the one playing.

>>712730951
So, the prophecy/legend they have church about in the Light DEFINITELY isn't as complete as the one in the dark world, right?
I mean there's a kid named Jockington in town who looks just like this.

>>712726657 (OP)
How bad would it have to be for you to actually side with Toriel against him? I can't think of anything within his capacity

>>712730968
There is, but Asriel never told Kris about it

>>712731012
he's just being a tsundere

Tell me I’m not crazy, I remember that in the overworld, when interacting with one of the houses, there was a message with red text. The problem is I can’t remember when or which house at all. I loaded a save, but I can’t find it. Was it in Chapter 4, I think?

>>712730827
You guys really are just furry shonenfags huh

>>712730423
Ice-E is probably going to appear as a gag boss in the light world.

>>712730053
I... I can't!

>>712731008
>LOVE was a bullshit gotcha acronym in UT
>spare everyone in Deltarune
>NPC says my LOVE (in important yellow text) has been increasing in NAMEtown
What the fuck are you getting at Toby you stupid cunt

>>712728781
He's a chuunibyou

>>712731071
he managed to kill 6 kids in one timeline, he can do it again

>>712730902
Anon it's a fucking word, a pronoun.
The fucking pronoun retards are the most obnoxious people imaginable because they don't understand that not calling something an appropriate word doesn't change that thing. Kris has some kind of gender, Toby calls it 'They' because it's supposed to be ambiguous for you

>>712729924
>kris can wear ribbons
I mean...so can Ralsei

>>712730827
>putting a ring on someones finger is le ebil secks
Shut the fuck up krusigger.

>>712728447
This is something that's been brushed under the rug quite a few times now, the games government/law and general world they live in is never explained for some reason.
We know there are other humans, there are pictures of them and such.
Current theories:
>Humans are an endangered species, monsters comprise the majority of society as a whole.
>Monsters are a minority and this is essentially like a racial ghetto.
Pick your poison lads.

The real ship is Kris x (You).

>>712730053
Because I don't wanna make him suffer.

>>712730175
you don't have option to speak here because (you) are also in Noelle now and she didn't hear any question

>>712731071
I've always like Asgore more than Toriel and that will never change.

>>712730697
So why does Kris have an extended history with Hometown? Did he just get made in the bunker an 16+ years passed before we were even allowed to enter Hometown or something?

>>712729924
>also he hates the church clothes
Have you seen clothes in question?

>>712731137
More recruits means your town has a higher level of violence for the inevitable moment when the Knight tries to raid the castle.

Does anyone actually play these games? I figured this game was just an excuse for more furry porn

>>712731214
yeah whatever's been going on with hometown has been going on for somewhere around 20 years

>>712730401
i am not a torielfag i always hated toriel
but the porn is hot
in fact the fact i hate her is probably why i jack to her more often because it doesn't feels wrong like with the characters i actually like

>>712730827
Ralsus is for the priestly caste

>>712731185
Why would Kris be gay for us?
Or straight if you prefer Fem!Kris.

>>712726657 (OP)
It's pretty obvious what happened
We know that he
>used to be a police chief but got fired
>has a schizo investegation board in his basement
>has such a schizo theory that no one believes him (hence his "everyone, and toriel, will believe me now" speech in Noelle's house)
So what happened
>Asgore and Dess somehow got in a dark world
>Asgore saw Dess die/disspear in there
>he tells it to everyone but nobody believes him and deems him a schizo
>he gets kicked out of police for it
>toriel got sick of his scihzo theories and obsession with Dess case and dumps him
>Carol believes him and supports him with money and stuff (she also has schizo investigation board in her room)
>Toriel also hates Carol for enabling Asgore schizo theories

>>712731178
There was a human/monster conflict like there was in UT and this time humans lost.
The titans are humans.

>>712731221
Their powers combined, they are!
Pieces of paper!
Some dice!
A cookie cutter!
Wired mice!
A laptop!
However many jack of spades cards there are!

>>712731214
>So why does Kris have an extended history with Hometown?

Fake memories.

>>712731103
It’s the Catty family house. It says the catflap has a combination lock with three codes, like the shelter. It then says that it’s absolutely useless. Pretty sure it’s just some dumb joke but who can say at this point

>>712731137
every recuit has a lv. so presumably you are amassing an army for some inevitable good vs evil battle

KRIS IS FOR ____

>>712730902
Kris and Fris are non-gendered, because the whole point of the stories is for the player to "Be them" by controlling them. This was especially obvious in Undertale since you put in a name and it's not revealed until the end of the game that Frisk has his own name and are their own person. Hence the use of "They" and "Them", since that is traditionally what you use in stories when the gender is not known. Frisk and Kris is up to the player to interpret, they are anything you want them to be in the story, including non-binary which makes it incredibly fucking stupid and ironic that people whom put such importance on identity and self-identification that there's suddenly such an importance on pushing and forcing the desired pronoun onto others.

>>712730253
>that's like saying people that they need an understanding on Phantom Blood to fully get Steel Ball Run
They kinda do, though.

>>712731281
He sees the red heart and it reminds him of a spanked ass, which turns him on

why do people twist themselves into knots trying to explain how kris is secretly a dude because x, he's 2 niggas, it's supposed to be ambiguous, etc. when the obvious explanation is that toby is a lefty that deliberately created probably the most queer franchise of all time and made a non binary protag? bro you're playing the game where you hookup 2 gay knights, 2 cold blooded lesbos, get waited on by a tranny lion, and now you're a wing man for a dyke doe and dino. just take the L and move on, save yourself the mental energy.

>>712731185
No. I utterly detest this traitorous freak of a human.

>>712731281
They literally have a cactus named after them. They are tsundere for (You)

>>712731048
>>712731149
Tobias made the character, of all people in the world he should know if Kris is a he or a she. If it's up for personal interpretation, why correct the dudes playing it in the first place, and say "they're stuck" instead of "she's stuck"? That doesn't make sense.

>>712730401
>>712730827
you guys make the most /vg/ tier post I've seen in these thread
its exact same shit we've seen and heard, very similar to doeposters

>>712730902
>the creator doesn't know the gender of their character
Toby knows, he doesn't want to take the experience away from (You), who can think of Kris as you please. Kris' gender identity is not important enough to the story to be something he reveals, likely ever.

>>712731340
>everybody else in hometown has fake memories too

LOVE being a good thing in Deltarune is Toby Fox accepting that sometimes violence will be necessary to carry forward with justice.

>>712731316
>Humans lost
So why the fuck do they just let Kris chill with them?
Were they like "Yeah fuck these humans but actually let's keep some around."
>Book detailing how to take care of a human.
We know not all humans were sealed underground, if this is the case.

>Didn't learn about Kris's adoption in chapter 3
If that wasn't the time, will it EVER be elaborated on?

>>712731137
that NPC is also the discolored rudinn that may have something to do with the aces in chapter 3's egg room (gaster, man behind tree, man country)

>>712731221
Close but no cigar
It means Knight will reach higher level of violence when he kills everyone there
Pacifst is true hard mode unlike undertale

>>712731175
Yandere Noelle is so hot

>>712730865
Bro, your Nubert?

>>712730253
you can't tell me the game with "the place where it rained" on the soundtrack is solvable right now without prior sans knowledge

>>712731482
Chapter 0.

>>712731386
Berdly

>>712731416
>>712731439
Well those are some revelations.

>>712729519
Oh, that does remind me though. I do have some hope. Last week, I predicted Toby would make a single line update.
>* made it worse
It's not happened.
So maybe things are going to be okay.

>>712731467
Exactly. Kris didn't exist until the start of the game. It's why their side of the bedroom is so barren.

Guys, the simple explanation is, Toby's a weeb. If this was a Japanese game, they'd just use the standard neutral second-person and third-person pronouns that Japanese games use all the time when the game is supposed to let you self-insert. All Toby's doing is writing in English what the equivalent would be in Japanese.

>>712731178
Since everyone is alive it feels like a prequel to Undertale so its likely monsters are everywhere and are really close to getting the shit slapped out of them by humans and getting sealed underground.
Kris just doesn't want to move to be with humans since he doesn't know any.

>>712730253
You absolutely need to read the first 6 parts to enjoy Steel Ball Run.

>>712731449
>f it's up for personal interpretation, why correct the dudes playing it in the first place
It's taking the experience away from the players if he doesn't correct the error to make it ambiguous. You're the one that has to interpret his gender, not some dolts doing a playthrough.

Kris isn't a 'they'. No one is

>>712731525
It's funny how Kerdlyfags are, without fail, the same people who ship Suselle.

>The pronoun discussion.
Here we go again.

pontificating over Kris's gender for the millionth time should get you banished, just call him what you want and move on

>>712731559
WRONG

Ralsei is built for being comforted by Susie and Kris after the events of chapter 4. And then copious amounts of darker-then-dark sex.

>>712731058
Alvin or someone had a line saying that they've lost parts of the prophecy, so yeah

>>712731420
Ok but imagine raping Kris and he becomes super submissive

>>712727948
Susie will date Kris and Kris will date Noelle
Trust the plan

>>712731273
I can't take the phrase "chemistry" seriously because if people actually believed that shit there'd be way more Ralsusfags or maybe people consider that "forced" and don't want to admit it because they'd look like retards

>>712730945
It's not. Everybody is either right or left-handed. Some people are more one than the other, some are a mixture of both, but everybody fits somewhere on the spectrum of right and left-handedness, but there's still just right and left. Just like gender. You just don't like it because you can't refute it.

>>712731071
I don’t even think Toriel would be nearly as tired of his shit if he wasn’t constantly showing up with “eggs-husband” tier conversation starters and running out of the trees to give her flower bouquets. From my reading I believe that Toriel is sympathetic towards him (Alvin says she prays for Asgore a lot) and maybe even still likes him as a person in some regard, but he’s laying it on super fucking thick every time she shows up without an ounce of self-awareness or respect for himself. Even in Undertale he yearned for her from a distance and felt that he deserved his treatment for killing the fallen children. I suppose it’s different now since he potentially actually tried to do the right thing this time around and simply got way in over his head.

>>712727131
>And the Berdly grabs him by the shoulder and starts ranting
If there were any way that we could get a Kris Suicide ending, then it's like this

Mother Won. These threads are as dogshit as the hack of a dev and the games.

>>712731567
nah

>>712731570
>No one is
sorry lil buddy but there are tons of people in our real human world who go by they even though it upsets you and honestly the fact that anyone can play deltarune while pretending its not gay as fuck is Retarded As Hell

>>712731525
>Berdly will be only one without date
>he will get jealous and open dark fountain
Trust me bro, only way to good ending is to fuck the bird

>>712730978
>who are you even talking to with that
Figures they/them fags are too retarded to understand what a reply is.

I actually felt kind of bad being violent to Tasque Manager and her cats during Snowgrave

>>712731650
>forced
Boy, that word really mindbroke some people here.

>>712731449
>why correct the dudes playing it in the first place, and say "they're stuck" instead of "she's stuck"? That doesn't make sense.
Personal safety, if he did not correct them in that moment, it would be seen as endorsing the male-Kris theory. Which would result in bombs in his mailbox if you know anything about the types of people who care about labeling themselves 'they/them'.

Here's an example of one/

>>712731449
Toby once referred to Kris as a he in a tweet then immediately deleted it.
While I agree he's probably leaning into his xitter tumblr audience to satisfy the hungry wolves he calls his fans who NEED Kris to be nonbinary, he views Kris as a man/boy, and wrote him as one as well.
Kris is a male, the place they occupy within hometown is that of a lonely young teenage boy. You are purposefully obtuse (like xitter and reddit trannys) if you choose to ignore this. Hey, who really gafs anymore though? Live in your own reality, embrace delusions.
Why, I don't blame anyone anymore, with the world in such a sorry state, why not just escape reality when you can alter it in your own mind?

>>712731672
yeah

>>712731482
I am honestly disappointed we learned NOTHING about the Dreemurr family in Chapter 3.

>>712731695
why did the hack used mother song in that room?

What's was the purpose? Another quirky reference? God zoomers are so fucking stupid

>>712726657 (OP)
Cheated with a deergirl.

>>712731650
This isn't chemistry... this is art

I'm convinced Dess killed herself by slitting her wrists and the roaring knight is the shadow of her death over the town. Kris always carries that knife because he doesn't want anyone else to do it. The gatcha machine easter egg has you pick up her guitar pick and it says you can't find your hand, also alluding to a cut at the wrist. Also the knife poster on her wall is the same as the antlers on the roaring knight.

>>712731673
>sorry lil buddy but there are tons of people in our real human world who go by they
And they're wrong and lying.
Gonna cry about it? You are not a 'they'. Sorry, lil bud. You have a gender, you're just living in the world's largest cope bubble to ignore it.

>>712731650
the fact you morons can't tell the difference between friendship and romance to this degree is stunning

>>712731625
no, goat boy is made to be a smiling machine

Racist Asrielposting... I am forgotten

>>712731559
Is that what Kris uses in the Japanese version of the game?

>>712730985
based
this site has a weird hatred for self-inserting in video games. the amount of times i’ve gotten
>hurr that’s so pathetic of you to imagine yourself as the main character doing cool shit and fucking.

but this site’s entire sexual identity is SELF-INSERTING as cucks and NTR. apparently that’s the only time it’s acceptable. never take this site seriously

>>712731721
i think it's funny because it helped me realize why shonenspics get so up in arms about romance, they think everything is forced unless it plays into their tacobrowno sandbox mentality

>>712731716
The words "This is a story about breaking a curse" cause me immense psychic damage.

>>712731663
Earthbound has a boring story with boring characters. It’s overrated as shit.

>>712731651
>Everybody is either right or left-handed.

THIS NIGGA'S NEVER HEARD OF AMBIDEXTERITY

POINT AT HIM AND LAUGH

>>712726924
Deltarune takes place in a parallel universe where monsters won the war and humans were banished.

>>712729743
>>712729401
>we could have mommy gentle femdom
>instead we got fucking ntr
I fucking hate toby with every fibre of my being for this shit.

>>712731784
guy who gets tilted when a website has a block function that works: "sorry, little buddy"

>>712731673
>IT'S MA'AM
Miss, They, Xim, just put the fries in the fucking bag.

>>712731716
>over-long boss fight against roaring titan
>which have no characterization and can't be spared
he's not wrong, the titan fight was kinda shit for a chapter finale

>>712731650
ralsei is like the lil bro of the group

>>712731716
He's right about the Titans having no characterization and not being able to be spared.

>>712731716
The titan shit already happened exactly like that and it sucked. If titans don't get any further development and are just mindless evil punching bags forever it'd be the most boring uninteresting shit Toby has done yet.

>>712731634
How can Toby be a huge weeb but not be in favor of an harem ending?

>>712731861
You can block people on 4chan, it's calling "going back to resetera where you belong"

The festival is canceled because of rain

>>712731603
that's how you know it's an evil ship.

>>712731678
>Birdley is the one to open the dark fountain
>He becomes the best antagonist in the game because he's meant to be a reflection of the overly obsessed player
He has so much fucking potential

>>712731830
Toby you never knew how to code
Play the piano
write
Or design

All your games come from much better games, you don't deserve a single cent. You are a fucking loser that lives from groomed children.

A 35 year old man writting a teenager drama with the ability of a 12 year old. Your dogshit games will never be remembered once zoomers and dykes are forced to grow up out of their gay faggot phase.

>>712731341
Thanks at least I'm not that crazy.

I want to fuck Ralsei in his gay asshole and tell him everything will be okay, and quite frankly this is what makes me normal and well-adjusted. The fact that most of you don't want to do the same is more telling than anything else.

>>712731848
>THIS NIGGA'S NEVER HEARD OF AMBIDEXTERITY
You didn't read my previous post you gigantic gigatard: >>712730895
There is no such thing as true ambidexterity. People always have a preference.

>>712730985
being a self inserter is going to get you punished harder when all the big reveals happen, which will make the game better

all part of toby's plan

>>712731793
Every time someone ignores when a character likes someone else in THAT manner, an angel loses it wings. Hell, chapter 3 went over how they're not a poly group at all. Susie even told Noelle in Dess' room to not get weird ideas when talking about him.

>>712731860
>>we could have mommy gentle femdom
Carol is right there

>>712731861
Blocking someone over not using the words in your head to describe you is, in fact, living in the world's largest cope bubble.

>>712731716
>This is a story about breaking a curse

>>712727369
you forget that everyone in this town is a terrible parent and that's apparently a good thing according to reddit posts

>>712731908
Amd that's bad, how?

>>712732018
>m

>>712731608
This image? Irrefutable.

>>712731513
what's the significance of knowing the track to sans character in the story?
>>712731567
enjoy and understand is very different
you can enjoy the series more if you have prior knowledge but there's no need to fully understand the previous parts to get the story of part 6

>>712731776
Now that's some proper good writering. The only thing it lacks protagonist waking up in mental ward and everyone is actually real people all along.

>>712731908
>>712731875
>>712731908
Yeah but
1) It didn't still the final boss spot of the game.
2) Ch4 very deliberately does not have a Fountain Ruler because it is a character development chapter for the main trio. By fighting an unthinking evil, it gives Ralsei a lot of time to shine for himself
There's a big difference between doing this at the midway point of the game, and at the end of the game, where you'd expect an emotional climax for a Toby game.
It is genuinely a situation where yes, this works at one location of the game, but not the one described in that picture.
Also, it wasn't "overlong". It was a good fight. Could've been more challenging if anything.

>>712731603
It's called pair the spares.

>>712731704
I know what a reply is. The guy you replied to didn't ask for your opinion, at best it was a ragebait shitpost making fun of you and you just ben shapiroed at him. it was cringe.

>>712731810
lmao, do you have more?

>>712732059
That's the actual twitter filename, I AM NOT A MOBILEFAG
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtG295FXsAESJFm.png?name=orig

>>712731651
>"It's not"
>Proceeds to explain how little you understand about gender
You're literally describing gender as a spectrum, as in, it's a social construct, meaning there is the option of not conforming with these constructs. It sounds like you're just parroting phrases without even thinking once about them

>>712731776
Also the fact that mints are a revival item and that there are a lot of empty mint containers in her boxes implies her being dead and Kris wishing he could bring her back.

>>712731137
if you missed too many recruits he says your loved is cracked or something.

>>712731673
>but there are tons of people in our real human world who go by they
There are also tons of people with schizophrenia, am I supposed to listen to them? When you go out, you have to use male/female at some point. Nobody is calling them a 'they' IRL and if they melt down over it, it's not anyone else that looks stupid.

>>712731947
Every day I'm forced to be aware that some people still think Resetera is, like, a "rival" website.

>>712731930
The titans being a force of nature is fine

>>712731570
The streamers are players too, aren't they? Why take away their experience with the game by correcting them? And while Toby's corrected them in that stream, he hasn't said anything about Kris being ambiguous to the player's interpretation. If anything, Deltarune suggests Kris has a personal life that (You) are imposing on by being their puppetmaster.

Anymore of 2004 lol so random Noelle?

>>712731995
>There is no such thing as true ambidexterity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambidexterity

I think your peanut brain simply can't process anything more complex than a clearly defined black and white dichotomy. Everything needs to be entirely Category A or entirely Category B, and anything that can't neatly fit into either category makes your head hurt, so you have to force it into a category to make the hurting stop.

>>712732113
>The guy you replied to didn't ask for your opinion
This is peak Twitter/Tumblr faggotry. This is a message board you dumb cunt. Go back to your retarded faggot containment site.

>>712732154
How does Toby Fox fucking do it?

>>712731714
cats are for pet
please
do not the cat

>>712731860
What do you mean, "NTR"? Toriel and Asgore broke up before she ever met Sans, and she is Kris's mother, not his spouse.

>>712732110
It's called "pair for representation, not chemistry".

>>712731939
He's the gay kind of weeb that was on tumblr 24/7 and needs gay shit to get off.

>>712730058
put noelle in there and i'd cum

>>712731741
>>712731449
This
The entire pronoun debate is performative to not get a brick through his window from his tumblr/homestuck audience. He corrects the pronouns while referring to Kris as a 'he' in private to save his own neck.

>>712728392
She held his knife. That's like a tiny step away from hand holding

>>712732227
I've already the'd them out of existence

>>712732202
>>712732135
>>712732227
>>712732226

These are games written by a 35 year old man made for teenagers and young adults. Not for people that actually remember the 2004s.

>>712732202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-kS3jEzVeg

/v/ be like "I wish Toby would actually create an enemy that's just fucking purely evil for us to kill" and then he does that in chapter 4 and /v/ fucking bitches about it!

My god, it was twin peaks all along!

>>712732065
>>what's the significance of knowing the track to sans character in the story?
sans has a heartfelt chat to you in undertale about the people he's lost that he can never get back to while "its raining somewhere else" is playing. monsters bleed in deltarune but they don't in undertale, with the exception of sans.

its probably going to be a red herring but it is important to know about if you're trying to theorize things here. i don't think theres anything but sans thats really like this other than looking for thematic resemblance and universe logic

>>712732185
No it isn't.

>>712731968
Earthbound and Mother 3 are cropped up by posers who pretend they've played them in order to garner gamer cred, and considering the massive fucking autism fit you're having at the moment I have no reason to believe you've spent a single second on either of those games (not even the mother posers try to pretend to care about the first game).

>>712732154
>there are a lot of empty mint containers
Those are used to store her weed. ReviveMint is weed, that's why it is so rare.

>>712727724
1. How does anyone outside of Susie dunking the soul know this?
2. Toby constantly ruins this farce by saying 'him' multiple times on social media. You can't unrape the deer and you can't ungender the male protagonist.

>>712732276
Enjoy your -800 Karma in Elona

>>712732291
>the 2004s
You fucked it up.

>>712731860
>He can't indulge in both at the same time
Ngmi

>>712731930
I was thinking about that desu.
>No wait, THIS thing is objectively ontologically morally correct to kill, Kris!

>>712732104
>midway point of the game,
it was the finale of a chapter, with a 1-year gap until the next work
Imagine chapter 2 finishing with the Berdly fight, they're basically the same level fight

>>712732227
Meira Meira Meira Meira Meira

>>712732257
threads have progressed from headcanons about characters to headcanons about the author

>>712732018
what was it that he was missing?

>>712732180
The only reason people would come to a place you can say nigger from Resetera is because nobody likes posting on Digital North Korea with its endless purity tests.

The kinds of purity tests they have? Seeing if you're dumb enough to believe that somebody can identify as a 'they'.

>>712732229
Mommyfags are mentally ill.

>>712732018
Thought this guy was a girl when I first played, don't know why.

>>712732340
>cropped up by posers who pretend they've played them in order to garner gamer cred

Who are these posers and can you link at least one of them? thought so.

4chan loved earthbound and Mother 3 fan translation was posted in /v/ the moment it came out. Basically you don't belong.

>>712727760
Three big issues.
>ThornRing required to Snowgrave
>Noelle either knows everything that happened was real which would be much more interesting to discuss or thought it was all a dream and just so happened to see Kris moving to block the apple the same way he/she/urmom moved to save her in the dream
>If Noelle DID cast Snowgrave, she'd have been completely catatonic like in the regular Doebunny Mind Control route and would not be able to participate in fighting King in the first place

>>712732257
Damn, you know Toby that well? Mind sharing some Chapter 5 leaks?

>>712732314
/V/ is usually just me and I liked that about UT, the fuck you talking about that's a weak downgrade

>>712732314
I wouldn't mind it if they had personality or charisma. But they're just generic evil monsters.

>>712732314
Damn it's almost like this place has different people with different opinions

>>712732291
The game was made for me

>>712732382
PINGAS

>>712732071
I think regardless of the method of her disappearing, a huge event happened on Christmas Day that involved him, Asriel and Dess that traumatised him and makes him not want to face anything to do with them (closing his eyes when looking into Asriel's room in cyber city, his head hurting when looking at dess' items, Torial using that date to lock the music channel so he can't unlock it, etc.)

>>712732375
>headcanon
Gonna argue the post he made isn't real, next? It's straight from the dog's mouth. He thinks of Kris as a 'He'. End of story.

>>712732382
My cool Shit squad doesn't need a to kick the Knight's ass!

>>712732152
>You're literally describing gender as a spectrum, as in, it's a social construct
No, what constitutes expression of gender is a social construct. You can be very very masculine and very very feminine and any mixture of the two. There is still only masculine and feminine. It is a BINARY. There is no such thing as being outside of this spectrum just like there's no such thing as not having a preferred hand. Every single "nonbinary" person is just a guy wearing girls clothes or a girl wearing guy clothes. They're just moving themselves more towards the center of the spectrum but it is still the center WITHIN THE BINARY. You fucking retards are so annoying, this is really not that complicated and you fucks just want soooo desperately to be LGBT when you're just a normal cis person wearing different clothes.

>>712732354
I do wonder how much of Kris's flirting skills are just like... leaking over from when we were Frisk.

>>712732382
The power.
He was an unplugged power strip.

>>712732276
Just like Kris identifies as a they/them

>>712732475
Femboys are poogers and the simpsons are le cringe aren't they?

Our personality is the algorythm and we get angry at made up people cause we are balding zoomers

>>712732456
>Damn, you know Toby that well?
Yep >>712731741

It's you that pretends that he didn't refer to him as a he as a slip.

>>712732441
>and Mother 3 fan translation was posted in /v/ the moment it came out.
Tons of threads with tons of OC, I remember those times. Everyone hornyposting for Kumatora and countless edits of Flint as the manliest man ever.

>>712732387
Facebook uncles shout the nigger word all the time on other websites, that speaks more on you than it does on the site if that's what you come here for. This isn't doing anything to affirm I'm wrong when I think people that perpetuate one-sided site rivalries are dumber than the dirt they stand on.

>>712732229
Not him, but I just found out about “mom NTR” from the cucks on this board

>>712732375
people can’t accept that toby is one of the most left leaning faggots in the indie space, so they gotta explain a different motive to explain why he’s obsessed with dykes and making kris into some magical third gender

>>712732291
I have never heard anything good come out of a Kumatora poster's mouth
And I dislike the character for that reason now

>>712730742
Too bad Spamton made Jevil redundant

>>712732363
>Imagine chapter 2 finishing with the Berdly fight, they're basically the same level fight
huh??? What, you don't consider the climbing/damaging it's eye to be part of the fight? What is the Berdly equivalent of the Gerson enter/soul dunk?

>>712732314
I really can’t understand the fags who think that the Titans being mindless beings hellbent on destruction is somehow a negative. What the fuck else are they supposed to be? Why would they be redeemable? We have the Knight for this shit. Fighting King was supposed to establish early on that some of these enemies won’t be beaten by just Talking. The Titans are the same way but with much higher stakes

>have to wait over a year for Kris to possibly confront his mom over being drunk in front of his friend
This sucks dude

>Captcha:KRSMS

>>712732526
>Susie comments that Noelle was really great at singing, having not heard it before
>Turns out, she was practicing to impress Kris.
God

>>712732375
Toby is easily the most projected-on dev in history

>>712732221
>This is peak Twitter/Tumblr faggotry.
I wouldn't know, I don't go there but thanks for teaching me. Anything else I should know?
>This is a message board you dumb cunt.
I'm aware. What about message boards means it's good to reply to bait and go on tangents nobody asked for?

>>712732456
Woodyfags will be vindicated

>>712732502
if someone says they wanna go by they ill call them they because im not a screeching retard and it impacts my life 0% to make them more comfortable

if u want to be more on topic ch3 egg room is in a place called man country that repeatedly uses the word man and then has a sign that says "non-men are ok too"
gender is probably not unimportant here

>>712732579
>Facebook uncles shout the nigger word all the time on other websites,
Actually, facebook bans you on sight if you say 'nigger'. It's in their ToS. You're, again, mentally ill with shittons of misconceptions about the internet in general.

>>712728942
It’s a reference to “Where’s An Egg?” a game from the homestar runner guys

>>712732354
What the fuck is wrong with Toriel fags

>>712732526
Noelle might actually explode if her two love interests get together

>>712732382
shadow mantle

I want to put Ralsei into a horrible torture simulation for years, and then come in and free him and heal him and take away all the pain, and tell him the only way for him not to go Hell again is if he stays close to me and loves me.

>>712732646
i don't think it was solely to impress kris, but yeah

>>712732584
i think tobert is less obsessed with dykes than /v/ is with screaming about dykes honestly, this place has people that will go out of their way to moan susie and noelle are going out to eat after muffing the meal while recent chapters are sinking it like the titanitc

>>712732625
King is still a character with a personality and goals and flaws. Titans are nothing.

>>712732218
>Everything needs to be entirely Category A or entirely Category B
That is literally the opposite of what I said and you're strawmanning. I said that there exists a binary of A and B with a spectrum between them of varying degrees of belonging to A and B. There is still only A and B so fuck off you disingenuous faggot. Also if you research ambidexterity a little more than not fucking at all, you'll find that they still have a preference of once hand over the other.

>>712732526
This backs up
>>712732479
As Kris trying to block out the memory of Christmas.

>>712732526
it's so funny how every interaction noelle has with kris goes like
>hey kris-mas, how are you doing?
>haha yeah I called you kris-mas like when we were kids and used to spend time together gosh don't you remember all those times where we'd be together and laugh and everything was perfect?
>anyway is susie available?

>>712732314
Sorry anon, your goat is LONG now

>>712732584
>people can’t accept that toby is one of the most left leaning faggots in the indie space,
Nobody ever said he wasn't, but in this instance? >>712731741

He thinks of Kris as a 'he'. He wants (You) to think of Kris as a they because his gender is supposed to be a secret to you. What is happening are a bunch of faggots, incapable of facing that reality, are now having a meltdown. You're joining in by trying to drag Tobias into it. Be better, and more mentally sound.

>>712732668
Yeah, there's a huge chance that all these Easter eggs and seemingly unconnected hints are just jokes or have literally no bearing on the plot

>>712732484
There's a video that's still up of Toby deliberately correcting streamers over pronouns, but there's no tweet or screencaps of a tweet. I'm pretty sure Kris is a themmer.

>>712731663
both are good

>>712732589
I'm more of a mother poster and anti-hack faggot developer kind of guy. Go back

>>712732731
don't...

>>712732773
YOUR LONG

>>712732484
where's this post? surely with how many people that want to prove he's male someone would archive it?

Did You accept Friend's help to beat the Knight via the shadow mantle or not?

Ralsei in a tutu

>>712732773
now horsify him

leaked screenshot of chapter 5
sorry for the blur my digital hand was too shaky

>>712731841
Earthbound doesn't have ntr though

>>712732794
>There's a video that's still up of Toby deliberately correcting streamers over pronouns,
Because he doesn't want to endorse the male Kris theory, Kris' gender is a mystery to you
But when he's writing Kris? Kris is a he. End of story

>>712732841
Ralsei but big tiddy goat mage

>>712732850
>GET BACK HERE YOU LITTLE SHIT

>>712732793
This gif is Piss

>>712732654
>because im not a screeching retard and it impacts my life 0% to make them more comfortable
You're the one coddling screeching retards buying into a 2010s for straight people that desperately want to belong to the LGBT cool kids club. This fad will die out as soon as people stop validating it, it's not real and never has been.

>>712732793
>the chubby Ralsei cloud is the hottest part of this
It's over for me

>>712732837
I'm never gonna not do the content Toby you fucking faggot. Yes surprise surprise I am going to play the video game I spent money on.

>>712732850
>Fuckin SLAVE, get your ass back here!

>>712732686
The foreshadowing for Noelle to become a literal fucking angel is very much being backed up with real piles of shit to hit the carousel-shaped fan.

>>712732731
BASED and same

>>712732794
>We're going back to the beginning because mentally ill tumblr fucks can't distinguish between 'They' as a way to refer to ambiguous gender and 'They' as a magical third gender
Please seek professional help. Or an English textbook.

>>712732793
Now that's what I call a Physical Challenge, folks!

>>712732802
Then get out of here Kumatora-cuck

>>712732795
Itoi used a book about 2 jewish children that got separated during the holocaust as an inspiration for Claus and Lucas.

meanwhile toby LOILRANDOMMMMMMMMMM

XD!!!!!!!! SPORK

Omg ist tharl..........THAT LE
LEL
KLE
LE

LE RANDOM DOGGGGGG!!!!!!!! XXD!!!! HE TOOK LE ARTICFACT

*Serious rape Time*

BROOOOO these characters are eteranally stuck in a 15 yeasr olds
JUSST LIKE MRFRFR
SO CINEMA

Embarrassing , really.

>>712732594
>What, you don't consider the climbing/damaging it's eye to be part of the fight?
well no, because it's a climbing section. It's not even during the fight so you can't argue it's part of it, unless you want to say all the other climbing sections are also a fight
>What is the Berdly equivalent of the Gerson enter/soul dunk?
berdly losing? it's the conclusion of the fight, there's nothing special about it besides more story

>>712732870
You’re meming right? Your mom dating a stranger is not NTR

>>712731608
I just want toby to do an official translation to a latin based language and see if he will use neo pronoums or not

>>712732793
DIOS MIOS

>>712732654
>if someone says they wanna go by they ill call them they because im not a screeching retard and it impacts my life 0% to make them more comfortable
Except Kris doesn't go by 'they', you have no idea what gender Kris actually is, he's never called himself that and never will.
Gonna cope some more or are you done?

>>712731810
>Asriel being hyper racist towards humans but loving Kris and seeing them as sincerely
"purebred" and completely failing to see the irony is hilarious for some reason.
>ASGORE tells Kris to go check out wtf is going on with Asriel.
>Kris reluctantly tags along to the Pure-Monster's-Association. [PCA] Meeting near Asriel's college.
>Thirty or so animal-monsters sitting around a large table, wearing monster-pride shirts, with a large rat boss monster at the head of the table.
>"Hey guys, I'm here for the meeting!" :]
>"Well if it isn't the boy with royal blood, you said you were bringing your brother? That's great. We ALWAYS need more proud, pure bred monsters - ESPECIALLY boss monsters like you, who ain't species traitors!"
>Asriel smiling "Of course, here he is now!" Coughs and tells Kris to come inside.
>Kris walks in. They're wearing their red horns.
>Absolute silence, Asriel is just standing there smiling, while Kris stares down thirty monsters wearing anti human shirts and other clothing.
>Boss-Rat clears his throat, breaks the silence and leans forwards.
>"Asriel, my boy... This is your- Your brother?"
>"Oh, yup! I've known them since they were a baby sir, they're as purebred as they come! Why, I joined this movement because I was worried how all those humans you said were going to move on into hometown's school would impact Kris! They'd probably freak out!"
>Kris is entirely silent, just staring straight at the rat-man with killing intent.
>"...Asriel, I think it's best you and your er- Brother leave. W-We'll uh, discuss this... Later. We don't really allow humans into our private meetings."
>Asriel leaves with his head hung low.
>"Aw jeez, sorry Kris. I really thought they'd let you in, I don't know why they kicked us out!"
>Kris looks up at Asriel.
>"You're a good brother Asriel."

>>712732802
>BS
oof

>>712732969
please don't reply to the lorde avatarfag he forgot to take his meds today

Asriel didn't go to College, he went to military school after... THAT happened.

>>712731608
>Unclear
Tumblrfags in shambles.

>>712733049
>It'S MA'AM
Sir, please put the fries in the bag, no one believes you're a woman with that jaw.

>>712732814
the post doesn't exist, it's gossip and mainly rooted in a fangamer employee referring to kris as male and getting corrected by tobert, wires crossed and now people say it was toby that did that