https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA70JV2dCMM

>my duty as a raven ninja
super chunni bro!
he has the drill that will pierce the heavens!
>0:47 in this trailer.
That fucking music. THAT FUCKING MUSIC. WHO IS ON THAT GUITAR BROS!?!?
Ryu looks fucking sick.
Platinum on the Boss design means this will shit on Itagaki's terrible boss design. Seriously Itagaki is so fucking bad as bosses it's embarrassing
Seori is MY WIFE!!!


>DMC4 to DMC5 = 10+ years
>Ninja Gaiden 3 to = Ninja Gaiden = 10+ years
>Bayonetta 2 to Bayonetta 3 = 8 years
>Armored Core VD to Armroed Core 6 = 10+ years
This is for the real fans. You doomposting losers will be posting my NG4 webms and I'll be laughing.

Finally a non-doomer thread.

>replacing the main character
it will be shit
also nice shilling

>>712746354
>more character to play mean game bad
ok boomer

>>712745203 (OP)
looks like shit
plays like platinum trash

>>712745203 (OP)
>guard bar
>slowdown on successful dodge
lmao

>>712746653
ok boomer. your old man hands cant keep up so be sure to post my webms when NG4 drops!

>>712745203 (OP)
>charged Y gives you armor and health regen on hit
>also hits the enemies fullscreen
>and freezes them for 5 seconds
people are going to think this shit gameplay is ninja gaiden

>>712746779
I've noticed a weird lack of grabs from the enemies.

>>712746990
everyone just sits there after getting hit by the charged Y.
hopefully its only on humanoid enemies, but the game needs massive changes.

>>712746990
>charged Y in older games takes over control and screen clears entire rooms
No they wont.

>>712746518
>forcing me to play with a shit character while replacing the main character of the franchise means shit game
yes

>>712747380
You don't play ninja gaiden

>>712746275
>thinking it won't devolve into a doomer thread

>retard is still reposting his shit "analysis" without understanding what's even happening in the clips
Already debunked your fraud ass in >>712578098

>>712747561
not him but this is the #1 complaint of sigma. no one wants to be forced to change characters mid-campaign.

>>712745203 (OP)
>Developer: PlatinumGames / Team Ninja
Why do I feel like two master chefs will make worlds shittiest soup when working in the same kitchen

>>712747916
I wasn't talking to you. I don't want to talk to you about it. I want to point and laugh at idiots who pretend to play Ninja Gaiden like >>712747380 getting caught in 4K complaining about something that's been apart of the series for over a decade.

Outside of the main story, what other modes will they have? Have they confirmed any online modes?

>>712748262
Nah and the store pages don't have any mentions of co-op/multiplayer. There better be 3RE's chapter challenge and mission mode though.

>>712748262
You might have to wait for Ninja Gaiden 4 Yakumo's Edge or Ninja Gaiden 4 Black for that. Or worse, Ninja Gaiden 4 Sigma.

>>712745203 (OP)
So, it seem like all of the weapons have a alt form, like the sword becoming longer for example.
But, it seem like the staff has two alt forms? Is it a stance system thing?

>>712749979
Two forms? I thought it only becomes the hammer

can you play the whole game as ayane or momiji yet? or any of the NG games for that matter?

>Ninja Gaiden Black/Sigma 1
Fantastic gameplay, Soulful graphics. Memorable locations. Light adventure elements are fun. Higher difficulties that dont just change enemies but ADD new ones! A game that's designed around you starting fresh each time.
Only real fault are some pretty awful bosses and gameplay that can be easily cheesed, though this being the first entry it's more forgivable. Sigma also has the rachel segments which suck
>Ninja Gaiden 2
An attempt at ramping everything up from the first game with major downsides. Adventure elements are gone and most of the levels are ugly and unremarkable, really only the first level being visually interesting. Combat feels much less methodical as the game spams so many enemies at you while making UTs better and longer which makes it clear that the best strategy is to abuse UT as much as possible, while in NG1 you didn't need to rely on it. Delimb system gets old very quickly and doesn't add anything other than a situation i-frame. Bosses have almost all gotten worse. That being said all of the weapons have really fun movesets and it's a big step up from NG1s weapon selection.
>Ligma 2
More of a remix. Less enemies with more health almost mimic NG1s design but UT and delimb spam still make the game trivial.
>NG3RE
Skipping over OG 3 because it's not worth it. 3RE is an attempt at trying to fix some of the issues of NG, essence no longer exists which means no instant UT looping. Enemies are extremely aggressive and evasive which makes players have to understand and master the games systems in order to efficiently defeat enemies. A real scoring system is implemented that actually gives the game tons of replay value. The movesets are even more improved and designed to be super smooth. Story and locations are still lackluster but the game feels like a genuine evolution.

A true NG fan can appreciate all 3 games but only an absolute faggot considers NG2 to be good or "the peak"

>>712750106
I think its both a drill and a hammer.

>Waaaaaah the hold Y attacks are unbalanced and too strong
Have these niggers even touched the old Ninja Gaiden games?

>>712750170
Now what about NG4? It's not an evolution, it's not a refinement. It's doing something completely different, using a handful of mechanics and stapling ryu onto it and saying "THIS IS NINJA GAIDEN!!!!"

A true fan will not support this game. A true fan knows this is not ninja gaiden and it is not the direction the series should've taken.

>>712750436
>old game has flaw
>new game should have flaw too!!!! why are you mad new game has same flaws?????
kill yourself

>>712749979
Drill is rapier's alt form.
>>712750125
3RE has a Chapter Challenge mode which lets you play campaign's missions as any of the characters (Ryu, Kasumi, Ayane & Momiji).

>>712750170
>only an absolute faggot considers NG2 to be good or "the peak"
I'm glad that me thinking NG2 is the peak of the series makes you this mad. The bizarre seething over people liking NG2 the most will always be funny to me. Insults like "NG2 cultists" or "Itagaki jihadists" are just hilarious.

>>712750614
based, thanks anon. picking it up now

>>712750614
>Drill is rapier's alt form.
I dunno, it looks like it spawn from a rod. Beside, I think he is getting 4 weapons per the deluxe edition.

>>712750125
Yeah in 3RE but you have to clear as Ryu first and you only get them on the mode you cleared. So it's two playthroughs for playing them on Master Ninja since MN unlocks after 1 clear.

>>712750775
Oh but to unlock that mode you need to beat the campaign first. Or edit the save, or download it
>>712750782
https://youtu.be/E2NnqO92d7M?si=NZB1yxu94vH36rp-&t=83

>>712750673
>I'm glad that me thinking NG2 is the peak of the series makes you this mad.
I'm stating facts. Nothing about anger. Typical for an NG2 to act this childish tho.

It's not really bizarre tho. If you enjoy NG1 then NG2 is only an upgrade in superficial ways such as LE GORE and flashier moves. NG1 isn't flawless but NG2 didn't improve on any of those faults and instead just digs itself deeper.

>>712751139
Eye gawd, I kneel. So I guess its something like that :
>Swords -> Bigger swords
>Rapier -> Drill
>Rod -> Hammer
I guess the chest/gauntlet weapon will be something like claws.

>>712745203 (OP)
THE SPEED OF THE COMBAT. FUCK I MISS THIS SO MUCH

>>712750170
Nah delimb system is the dopest shit ever in NG 2, the OTs and a couple of busted moves just shit all over it sadly and the weapon movesets are also the most ambitious they've ever been and mog anything in 3RE that isn't the sword. Stages are some of the coolest in the genre, ch 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 11 are certified bangers.

>>712747561

It would be nice if Both Yakumo and Ryu had 4 weapons each.

>>712750962
>>712751139
i might just grab a save. i loved NGB but wasn't that into NG2, and the story is all shit anyway. i just want some action ganeplay as DOA girls that isn't modding another game.

>>712752715
its fucking crazy how you guys had no clue the girls were playable in the past games. What the fuck were you doing between 2010 - 2015???

>>712752901
How are you surprised NG tourists don't play these games?

>>712748262
i love rachel

>>712752589
Delimb in theory is cool sure but the mechanics behind it are just bad.
Start of NG2 to like half way through venice is fine, everything else is dogshit. The infamous stairs are overrated too.

>>712753035
I guess I'm just too hardcore. I've been following "character action games" since they were "stylish action games" but Ninja Gaiden 1 was a huge deal on the Xbox Original and then it got ported to the Xbox 360 Store and when Ninja Gaiden 2 came out it was one of the biggest games for Xbox360 at that time so I always figured these "tourist" had to at least have played at least one of them. However the tourist are the same one who say "Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge sucks" because they think 3RE and NG3 are the same game.

>>712751301
>If you enjoy NG1 then NG2 is only an upgrade in superficial ways such as LE GORE and flashier moves
If that's what you think NG2 is, then you clearly don't understand it at all. The fact that NG2 is an offense-based game is already an upgrade over NG1 being defense-based, depending on who you ask. Hell, even in your own post you claim that NG2's weapons are a "big step up", so I really have no clue what you mean when you say that NG2 is only an upgrade in "superficial" ways.

>>712752710
Scythe is seemingly in and since Yakumo got lunar, 2kat and possibly talons that leaves just kusarigama and flails for Ryu. Would be sick if they got each other weapon types as a post game unlock with their own movesets but I doubt.

>>712753078
Who?

Can we talk about how fucking good the camera in this game is? You guys need to look at the trailer again, the camera has been improved 500%

>>712753420
>then it got ported
...to the least popular console. Shit not happening.
>had to at least have played at least one of them
Nope. It's not reddit enough.
>the tourists regurgitate misinformation
Not surprising. They don't play these games.

>>712753590
OH SHIT

>>712753520
>The fact that NG2 is an offense-based game is already an upgrade over NG1 being defense-based
Funny how you say I don't understand "it at all" when clearly you don't. What makes NG2 more offensive based? What does it specifically have that NG1 doesn't? Nothing. Both games are filled with strong offensive and mobile tools and tons of i-frames on attacks.
In NG1 your defense is stronger but that does NOT mean you can just sit back all day, grabs are deadly and will fuck you up and that's a big part of what makes ninja gaiden what it is. NG1 is capable of making a small room with 3 enemies very dangerous if you don't know how to use your tools right. NG2 just makes offense extremely easy because you have much bigger spaces to work with generally and UT is much more powerful.
>even in your own post you claim that NG2's weapons are a "big step up"
They are but if the enemies aren't interesting enough to fight then the weapon movesets don't really get as much use. 3RE was much better at building the movesets and the enemies to work together, that's why the movesets feel better because nearly every attack and string has a deliberate purpose.

>>712753650
The camera looked good but I can already see myself trying to constantly recenter it with RT just off my muscle memory

>>712753650
tourist opinion, only retards think NGs camera is bad because they're too stupid to press a camera reset button. Having shit zoomed out sucks and makes it like like a typical platinum game than NG

>>712753590
Maybe the scythe is a enemy's weapon, or maybe I am just blind.

>>712753078
Unfortunately there is about a 10% she ever returns.

>>712754249
>If the camera isn't shit and you're not getting hit from off screen half the time then it's not a real Ninja Gaiden game

>>712754249
You are correct.

>>712754650
Keep proving my point, tourist

>if I call everyone a tourist, I.. the tourist, wont look like a tourist

>>712754330
Nah looks like Ryu to me, you can see the muscles and the posture is also similar

>>712755509
Oh yeah? Post your credentials.

>>712753590
>>712756363
I sure hope so.

>>712756393
9 years ago btw. I wonder what excuse you'll say
>No, no, you bought the game b-b-but you didn't play it!!!
>Y-You did not play on M-Master Rank!! Yeah that's it!!
That's what you'll say lol

As for Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2. I own a Series S. I own Sigma 1 & II for PS3 as well. I'm on my computer, not giving you any more attention since I know you'll move the goalpost.

I liked Black 2 more than the original. What does that say about me?

>>712755509
see >>712755148

>>712757340
>That's what you'll say lol
Of course lol
I asked for credentials not recipients.

>>712757646
see >>712757340

>>712757616
>What does that say about me?
You enjoy fun

>>712757673
>Provides no argument for the original discussion
You lost. You turned it into something personal rather than trying to make an argument for yourself. Why? Because you have no argument but you want to pretend you're somehow right anyways

>>712754107
>What makes NG2 more offensive based? What does it specifically have that NG1 doesn't?
The delimb system. Though according to you, it just "gets old very quickly" and "doesn't add anything", completely ignoring how it encourages and rewards offensive, proactive play by letting you finish off enemies quickly while also giving you breathing room.
>They are but if the enemies aren't interesting enough to fight then the weapon movesets don't really get as much use.
I don’t see how that applies to NG2. NG2's enemies are incredibly interesting to fight; arguably the most fun in the entire series. If they really weren’t as interesting as you claim, the game wouldn’t have the following it does today.
>3RE was much better at building the movesets and the enemies to work together
Again, I don't see how. 3RE's movesets largely suffer from the same issues.
>nearly every attack and string has a deliberate purpose.
And that is true for NG2 as well.

>>712757616
That you don't like spamming iframes to avoid a million explosions in every fight. If you didn't play the higher difficulties in both then idk, maybe you're a graphics and waifufag.

>>712757667
Tell you what. If you post your recipient from years ago (to prove you aren't some PC master collection tourist) not only will I post my Master Rank clear but I'll post my own Master Rank clips from back during the /cgg/ days.

CHECK & MATE.

>>712757804
>NG2's enemies are incredibly interesting to fight;
NTA but you can't be serious? Zombies, Lycans, Worms, Centaurs, Quetzcoatls, etc are not beacons of good enemy design.

>>712757804
>interesting is when you elimb an enemy in one hit and finish immediately

https://youtu.be/Hf2V2_TNwN8?si=6WoDEe0Gmcn5Dzlh&t=586
>NG2 cultists be like YOOO this is fire gameplay!

>>712757804
>The delimb system
Delimb at it's "best" is a "win more" mechanic where by simply doing the things you normally do in NG, you'll delimb an enemy and get a quick kill. At it's worst it's an extremely cheese-able mechanic, either using moves that have a very high delimb chance or by keeping delimb enemies crawling on the floor while you make an encounter much easier with less threats on screen. Maybe you're right that it does make it more offensive but not in a skillful way, it turns the game into a hack n slash where any of your attacks can randomly lead to an instakill with i-frames. Batman Arkham unironically solved this type of thing because in those games you do have ways to "kill" enemies with some type of grab animation but 1. you had consistent ways to put people into that state 2. they did not have i-frames, so in order to actually pull these moves off you had crowd control the other enemies to give you time to get that kill off. Never though i'd bring up bamham combat and compare it to ninja gaiden but I only now noticed the contrast between OTs and bamham KOs
>NG2's enemies are incredibly interesting to fight
Other anon pointed it out already but seriously, what are you on about? The large majority suck ass. I'll admit that some of the demon enemies are more interesting than NG1s demons but delimb lets you just tear them up making them feel no different from humans ultimately. Sigma 2 unironically proves that some of the ninja enemies have quite complex AI...but in base OG they die so quickly that you never notice it.
>the game wouldn’t have the following it does today.
Yeah so god of war must be a really great game too right? It certainly has nothing do with flashy animations and gore that sells games.
>Again, I don't see how. 3RE's movesets largely suffer from the same issues.
3RE's enemies are tankier and are much more defensive. You have to truly understand the systems to win, especially with delimb rates being severely cut down.

All the journos who got to play it said it was amazing and their favorite game at the SGF preview event. Surely they would never trick us right?

>>712758585
>mfw zombies, dinos and horsemen made it into NG2 before actually good enemies like imps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcFyom0_wXw&t=373s

>>712759428
>their favorite game at the SGF preview event
Said same thing about Onimusha.

Man it's been a long time. What happened to that anon? Is he going to post proof he isn't a tourist so I can post these Master Rank clips and clears of mine or did I scare him away?

if he replies now that means it's probably someone else, or he's going to pretend to be someone else. Like it's been 30 minutes where'd he go???????????

my post btw
>>712757879
>>712757340

How come he never responded so I can post clips??? Remember: 99% of this thread is fake faggots who never played the games or played them recently via Steam Masters Collection, they aren't as skilled as real players who have been playing these games for years and are probably troons from another board in general

>>712759132
NG2 challenge runs were a mistake.

>>712759598
post clips anon we're interested.

>NG4 bringing back more non-combat segments instead of just being room after room of enemy encounters

Blackchads won, bigly

>>712760047
Not when it's just shitty on rails segments like we're playing fucking sonic

ChatGPT is hella slow today, what's up with that?

>>712757879
>>712759598
>post your recipient from years ago
Long gone.
>PC master collection
You're funny.
>post proof he isn't a tourist
Playing before you were born junior.
>did I scare him away?
Had to scrounge around. How was that refresh button?
>never played the games or played them recently via Steam Masters Collection
Beginner games I see.
>who have been playing these games for years
You?
>I can post these Master Rank clips and clears of mine
The dojo will be waiting.

damn we ironically have 50 year olds in here

>>712758585
While those enemies (with the expection of the Lycans) are certainly not good, you only face them a few times at best during the main game. Even then, certain enemies like the zombies are actually not that bad when paired with other enemy types. They're still not great either, mind you, but they actually become somewhat engaging when you have to deal with other enemies at the same time. Same goes for the Lycans, though the Lycans are just generally better as a whole. Unfortunely, though, they're only really paired with other enemy types in Mission Mode. You don't see them alongside other enemies in the campaign, which does suck.
>>712758943
When you're facing large number of enemies at once, yes. It's all about killing the dozens upon dozens of enemies thrown at you at once as quickly as possible before they overwhelm you.

>>712759224
>keeping delimb enemies crawling on the floor while you make an encounter much easier with less threats on screen
If you can explain to me how that’s a bad thing, I’d love to hear it. That just means the mechanic has more depth and strategy than simply giving you access to a “situation i-frame”, as you originally claimed. It even comes with its own risks, since a delimbed enemy can suicide-grab you and delete half or even your entire lifebar if you’re not careful.
>it turns the game into a hack n slash where any of your attacks can randomly lead to an instakill with i-frames.
It turns the game into an action game where being aggressive and proactive is your most important and generally only means of survival precisely because of said i-frames. I don't see how the delimb system makes things "more offensive but not in a skillful way", when survival in NG2 is directly tied to playing offensively, and it's all thanks to the delimb system, as it turns offense into your best defense.

>>712763558
>When you're facing large number of enemies at once, yes. It's all about killing the dozens upon dozens of enemies thrown at you at once as quickly as possible before they overwhelm you.

>>712763558
>you had consistent ways to put people into that state
And you don't in NG2?
>they did not have i-frames, so in order to actually pull these moves off you had crowd control the other enemies to give you time to get that kill off
Bamham is also not Ninja Gaiden. OTs wouldn't be worth anything if they had no i-frames due to how aggressive the enemies are.
>Yeah so god of war must be a really great game too right?
Bringing up a completely different franchise while also ignoring the point. Do better.
>You have to truly understand the systems to win
You don't. I say this because I've beaten 3RE on UN without actually "truly understanding the systems". It's not impossible.
>especially with delimb rates being severely cut down.
For most moves. You still have strings like the sword's XXXYYY which will delimb nearly any enemy you hit 99% of the time, with the only downside being how long the string is.

Does anyone else here like Ninja Gaiden Black/Sigma the most? Its combat is probably the worst of the three but it feels like the most complete package in terms of content and levels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE8_tQcAN1I

We watching?

>>712765138
Pretty sure it's common opinion for those to be considered the overall "best" games in the series since they technically have the fewest flaws.

>>712765228
Nah who tf cares about NG2B in the big 2025.
If you're looking for an opinion to download and parrot then watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvzuOFsLlO4

>>712765228
Nah I love NG2B

>>712765228
Imagine making this and actually complaining that the shitty spear gun from vanilla 2 is gone in Sigma/Black 2.

>>712765138
It's easily mine. Combat feels a lot more measured and methodical than 2 not to mention 2 added the stupid cinematic finishers you kinda have to spam. I also liked using the environment the most in the first one.

>>712763698
uhh but but but bu uhhh

>>712763558
>If you can explain to me how that’s a bad thing, I’d love to hear it.
It's literally cheesing the game. They did not intend for you to use delimbed enemies in this way. In fact it's contradictory to what you said just above
>killing the dozens upon dozens of enemies thrown at you at once as quickly as possible
Which is it? killing dozens of enemies or using delimbs to severely limit the amount of normal enemies that are able to spawn? If it's about the former, then that is basically admitting that the strategy we're discussing is cheesing. And no it's not really risky when the majority of arenas are very big. It's a pretty common strategy in tests of valor too.
>It turns the game into an action game where being aggressive and proactive is your most important and generally only means of survival precisely because of said i-frames.
And this isn't true for the first game because? You're not really pointing out specifically how a random chance to basically insta-kill an enemy is a good mechanic. Everything you say about being aggressive already applies to NG1. It's actually inherent to the games system, that's the point of essence. If you play too defensively in 1 or 2, essence will go away even when you're blocking and then you don't have access to the extremely powerful instant lvl 3 UT.

>>712767504
In NG1 a lot of the combat arenas are small and more close quarters so you have a lot more opportunities to utilize the games unique movement. In NG2 and even more so in NG3 the arenas are much much bigger so those opportunities become rarer

>>712768439
>In fact it's contradictory to what you said just above
Get used to it.

This
Is
Ninja
Gaiden

I think regardless of whether this ends up being a good game NG fans are too autistic to accept anything different. The fact that I’ve seen several people complain about the added training mode going against the NG spirit is genuinely absurd.

>>712765138
>combat is probably the worst of the three
that's NG3/RE

>>712771004
filtered hard

>>712768581
this shit sounds cool on paper until you actually play it and find out the camera gets stuck everywhere or you just simply can't see shit

>>712745203 (OP)
>Hype
More like hate. Fuck Platinum and fuck "NG" 4

>>712748262
Sorry, that's DLC only

Heads up for collectorfags: It looks like this game might have a very limited physical release, so you should probably be prepared for that in case it gets scalped, also only the PS5 version seems to be true physical, Xbox version seems to be just a download code

>>712769841
Fake ass gameplay, Fiend Ryu's AI is nowhere near that impressive in-game

>>712768439
>They did not intend for you to use delimbed enemies in this way
According to whom? Leaving delimbed enemies alive has risks (i.e. suicide grabs), so to claim that they didn't think of that when designing the system is stupid.
>If it's about the former, then that is basically admitting that the strategy we're discussing is cheesing.
A mechanic having more than one use is not cheesing. It would be cheesing if there was no risk or downside to it at all, as it would prove that the designers didn't think of the mechanic being used like that, but that's not the case here.
>And no it's not really risky
Yes, it is. There is always a chance that a delimbed enemy will grab you during your recovery frames or when you don't notice them or forget about them.
>And this isn't true for the first game because?
Because NG1 is fundamentally a defense-based game. Nothing in it truly encourages, let alone forces, you to play offensively. NG2, on the other hand, constantly puts you on a timer. No matter how defensively you play, it won’t get you anywhere. You will die if you’re not proactive, whether it’s from chip damage caused by projectiles (like the constant IS) or something else. That dynamic simply doesn’t really exist in NG1, where playing defensively is often more than not the optimal approach.
>You're not really pointing out specifically how a random chance to basically insta-kill an enemy is a good mechanic.
It allows you to dispose of one of the dozen enemies swarming you as quickly as possible, giving you breathing room to think and deal with the rest. It also lets you leave an enemy in a less threatening state so you can focus on others; or even potentially “save” an OT in case you really need the i-frames in an emergency. That said, doing so comes with the risk of getting suicide grabbed and the downside of missing out on essence.
>Everything you say about being aggressive already applies to NG1
Not true. Read above.

>>712772604
It's literally an attract from the game itself numbnuts. fake ass gamer doesn't recognize where it's from

>>712771157
thank god i did
if you want to keep defending ng3, be my guest

>>712770987
ng fans have always been divisive and autistic
you have itagakifags, NG3REfags, sigmafags

bump

delimbs and OT being "random" was only a thing for sigma and black
OG 2 had very specific and consistent rules on how the combat works, things like guillotine throw and some weapon moves being practically guaranteed delimb
there's a random element to it sure, but they are consistent if you know the rules of engagement and people who know how the game works are rewarded
this is why people shit on sigma 2 and 2 black balancing because bloating the enemy HP throws all of those rules out the window and the game feels like you're just waiting to get lucky

>>712765952
>fewest flaws
lol

>>712776036
>having a few moves out of 500+ that will always delimb means the game is not random
only if you all you do is spam these few moves

>>712776292
NG2 is the least flawed game and it’s not even close

>>712776975
>few
not exactly few, just the dragon sword alone XXY, YY, on landing X, and running XX are practically guaranteed delimb
and this is coming from someone who doesn't know everything about the game

>>712777348
>not exactly few
out of how many?

>>712779272
if you mean how many moves delimb then all moves have a chance to delimb, if it's guaranteed then even just 5 moves in the DS moveset is already a lot
you're being absurd if you want more than that, not every move needs to be a setup for OT

>>712765138
ng2 combat is the worst, the game is iframe into ut spam on master ninja

>>712780251
>you're being absurd if you want more than that, not every move needs to be a setup for OT
this makes the rest of the moves worthless though.

>>712780681
ok then, seems like the pretense for a genuine discussion is over

>>712780891
It all circles back to ignoring 99% of the moveset because only a select few attacks can delimb consistently. This is the only way you can claim that delimbing is not random in og 2.

>>712781240
that's not mutually exclusive at all, your logic is crooked
you're basically telling me flying swallow, XY, gleaming blade, UTs and izuna drop are all useless therefore delimbs are random
there's no universe out there where this makes sense

>>712781651
This is your logic though >>712776036

>>712782045
there are better ways to keep the thread alive than pretending to be retarded

>>712781651
izuna drop is pretty bad on higher difficulties bc enemies punish it a lot
not on other weapons tho for whatever reason

>>712782172
if you spam it, they will
another thing they will do is jump attack to counter when you spam wind path
even OTs get punished when you spam it

>>712782317
also when they're running to you they will stop right out of your range or jump back when you spam UTs

NG2 is like a fighting game where it's more fun if you don't know how to play

>>712782140
>says sigma sucks because delimbing is random unlike in OG
>gets pointed out how delimbing is random in OG too unless you spam the same few moves
>immediately moves goalpost to how other moves are still useful despite random delimbing
>cant apply the same logic to sigma
anon, you're the retard here

>>712782392
cool headcanon >>712763698

>>712782721
>cant apply the same logic to sigma
yeah because sigma doesn't have a move that guarantees delimb, even GT doesn't delimb
the logic is very simple, i don't understand how you're having trouble with this
>>712782769
scythe UT is a special case since the range hits all the way to the next town

>>712783043
>yeah because sigma doesn't have a move that guarantees delimb
Eh, as much as I hate Sigma 2, XXY still delimbs somewhat consistently from what I remember. It's been a while since I last played it, though, so I could be wrong.

>>712783159
You are correct

>>712782317
>if you spam it, they will
Talon FS ID begs to differ

>>712783043
demon cutter and UTs always delimb, and the aforementioned DS moves have nearly the same chance as in OG. your logic is retarded.
>special case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujkB_DkAgL0
is that why you can see enemies just running into UTs?

>>712772604
anon...

It doesn't get any more kino than this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ayhlniPzY

For some stupid fucking reason I can't run ng2 on xenia? Can I play the original ng2 on gamepass? I don't want the sigma version.

>>712745203 (OP)
all the environments look boring, it should be a crime for a stylish action game dev to have such weak art direction.

>>712785510
Yeah going from DMC5 which struggled a little with visual variety but had absolutely stunning art design to this is downright depressing. Even some of Plats other games looked better.

>>712785510
Literally every stylish action game has shit environments.

>>712785220
Buy Xbox.

>>712785638
Not NG2

>>712785510
I really like the dance club stage. Other than that, yeah, the enviroments do look boring.

>>712785620
>struggled a little with visual variety
>a little
LMAO

>>712785676
In your dreams. Console cuck.

>>712785220
>Can I play the original ng2 on gamepass?
Not yet. I've heard that there are plans to bring Xbox's console emulation to PC soon, though.

>>712785638
Thats because so many of them are made by platinum and they have no idea what they are doing. Something happened after bayonetta 1 and they completely lost the ability to create compelling environments. Before RE engine DMC had really nice settings and unfortunately for platinum ninja gaiden 2 has really nice environments and they will be compared with it.

>>712785825
Then keep waiting to run a twenty year old game property on your PC lol.

that drill thing is fucking retarded there are plenty of other weapons people would have preferred and they wasted a new weapon slot on a fucking drill that looks like it came from a sonic the hedgehog robot?

>>712786297
It's more akin to Drill Dozer.

>>712745203 (OP)
>itagaki makes bad bosses
most of the bosses in NGB were good or decent at worst. NG is better without constant bosses anyway- NG2 is when the boss design went to shit. Game shipped unfinished.

>>712786297
>plenty of other weapons
List 5 right now.

>>712785510
>all the environments look boring, it should be a crime for a stylish action game dev to have such weak art direction.
You want to fill the environment with noisy visuals when Ninja Gaiden combat is as chaotic as it is?

>>712746518
you do know people complained all the way back the first time they made a ninja gaiden game with mandatory sections you play as a different character right? But at the least, those were prexisting team ninja universe designs. people liked the characters already. Not made up OC by a different studio that looks like its someones Vtuber avatar.

>>712786051
if only xenia got half the effort/features of pcs3

>Dark dragon
Yamata no Orochi?

>>712746518
in a game ip based in nes games and DOA character? yes

>>712746995
yeah me too. the ninja would flip over your back and grab you and stab you in the older games. The swat guys would just circle around your guard and grab you or knee you and fly you 5 feet back. made you respect the enemies you fought.

>>712786670
>interesting environments have to be full of noisy shit
false dichotomy.

>>712786865
I only ask this because Nioh and Ninja Gaiden are set in the same universe and you get to fight the eight headed yokai in Nioh.

>>712786540
Your standards for decent are very, very low.

>>712750125
not until sigma version were ryu its inside the cukside harem of playable secondary characters 75%

>>712786591
one of the top of my head are sai which people have asked for since NG2 because it fits with the asian martial arts weapons like bo staff, nunchucks, sword, kusari-gama, tonfa, etc. ninja gaiden is at its best when it tries to retain some level of japanese inspired atmosphere. its why neotokyo in ng2 is cooler than generic sci fi space station in the new game. IRL sais have a lot of attacks you can build a large move set around but most people dont know that because of how they are portrayed in stuff like ninja turtles or whatever.

>>712787106
Doku in his armored form was probably one of the coolest boss fights in the franchise just being an armored spirit samurai you could legit sword duel with. Murai in his base form just being a really fucking skilled guy beating your ass with nunchucks in a mountain dojo was kino and peak atmosphere and world building. The clone ryu fights are great and probably the best boss as far as im concerned of any of the 3 games just being another humanoid with a varied moveset and a large list of attacks. NG is better with minimal bossfights and the bosses being humanoid because it matches the combat you practice during the normal gameplay. NGB had more good bosses but those are just 3 examples.

>>712748161
>shit design becomes good if its done for a decade
sound logic

>Old NG fans hate NG4
>Old Shinobi fans Art of Vengeance
>I like both
Damn.

>>712752589
the delimb system on paper is super cool but it ruined the game with the way it was executed in my opinion. like that other guy said, you can OT I frame through shit every 5 seconds or so and it trivializes some of the combat. and i think thats why the game was balanced so weirdly with such large groups of enemies everywhere. If they had made it so the delimb happened like 25% as often, they could have used less enemies and just made them more aggressive and dangerous so the game didnt feel like a dynasty warriors game at times. Also-- you need to have a lot of OT animations to not get bored seeing them over and over. like 5-10 per weapon so it feels and looks natural. how many enemies do you think you use OT on per level? they needed to polish it more but they ran out of time and it got released unfinished.

>>712787804
Some people can't be helped.

Man if they're forcing me to play any character other than Ryu, the least they could do is creating a new big titty kunoichi (hell I'd even take Ayane again) donut steel but instead they're shoving some lame ass emo twink down my throat. Even then I doubt Platinum could design a female character even half as good as TN if picrel is of any indication. The game in general just looks so plastic and cheap and they're expecting you to shell out 80 shekels for it. Fuck me sideways.

>>712788312
its on gamepass and has no denuvo yet

>>712788312
she looks like the artist self insert i wont be impressed if its just yakumo waifu like nero kirye in 5

>>712788312
>Doesn't own a Xbox
>Pretends he ever cared for TN
>Doesn't own a Xbox
I'll be playing for basically FREE with Gamepass, smooch.

>>712788568
artist OCsona self insert * dmc4*

>>712788312
>80 shekels
Oh wow I did not know that, way to ensure nobody buys it.

>>712788610
But my pc IS an Xbox though. Hell even my phone is an Xbox. Phil even said as much.

>>712788716
cant wait what retarded shit theyll do for 30th anniversary if xbox and microshit survives for 2035

>>712788312
>80
thats crazy theres no way

>>712788871
welcome to ps5 clown gen better pray post gta 6 a standard game doesnt cost 100

>>712788312
You just can't compare other devs to TN. They exclusively make 10/10 semen demons.

Where do you fuckers live? It's not 80 bucks in America.
https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10012110/

>>712788928
Why are you clowning the nogames machine. Tendies are the ones that enable this faggotry.

>>712789070
it started the price trend

>>712789018
What the fuck I can't believe anon just lied on the internet

>>712789070
he's a console war fag that doesn't play games on any console

>>712789018
it's tendie cope

>>712788769
What pisses me off is whenever they do kill off the division they'll hoard all the IPs they bought. Its gonna be a repeat of embracer group taking a bunch of game series to the grave.

>>712788928
>>712788871
>>712788716
Microsoft is publishing. The just announced OuterWorlds2 is their first 79.99 game so I don't doubt Ninja Gaiden 4, a Microsoft published game, wont be 79.99 too.

>>712789321
Thsts why I just assumed that was true.

>>712789321
that makes the new protag even crazier why woud someone pay 80 for a ninja gaiden game where half the game you dont even get to use him? thats unreal.

>>712789321
NG4 literally has a steam page with price right now. Can you guys get off /v/ for 5 seconds?

>>712789321
Dude, you can LITERALLY look up the fucking price, it's $70, only the deluxe edition costs more, stop thinking of a fake scenario in your head

>>712746354
DMC V and 4 did it and everyone was ok with that

>>712790265
in 5 nero was more fleshed out and his stupid waifu was out, only liked his music theme cause robotic arms not being swapable and autitistic build load out was stupid

>>712789163
yes i play in the superior PC

there's nothing that brings me more joy than seeing yet another Ninja Gaiden game making the self-appointed "fans" of the franchise mad. Said fans only like one version of the first game in the franchise and call all other ninja gaiden games (or versions of that game) shit btw.
Seeing you faggots shit and piss yourselves is a feast to the senses.

>>712790265
DMC4 is awful

Ayane is 100% DLC.

>>712791257
which other series in the genre are you comparing this to?

bump

>>712792228
Worth

>>712797135
armpit hair status?

>>712786003
>there are plans to bring Xbox's console emulation to PC soon
This probably means xbox is dead or dying and at the point where microsoft is about to pull the plug on the console and strictly focus on the PC market, cause the only reason anyone would even buy an xbox in current year anymore is for the old exclusives via BC emulation. So in other words xbox needs to die faster if we want to see a proper port of OG NG2 make it on PC soon.

>>712745203 (OP)
Team sloppa is dead
Both nioh3 and ng4 gonna flop hard

>>712798097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu_eDxflkMc

>>712787031
cute snek but terrible boss. at least Nine Tailed Fox is good

>>712789551
Imagine using facts and reality on /v/, anon. You’re supposed to just wildly speculate and screech about corporations like it’s a blood sport. But yeah, it's $69.99—standard edition. People running around like headless chickens over deluxe pricing like that’s new.

>>712797414
Ayane takes regular beauty treatment and therefore has no body hair.

>>712799919
what if they are gone for a week or two on some assignment? haha they would be pretty sweaty and dirty i bet lol haha maybe they can give us a skin like that haha jk that would be weird lmao......unless...

>>712800083
I think Kasumi is more up your alley. She's always on the run so perhaps sometimes she skips a bath or two. But mid combat they'd smell like blood.

>>712788312
they literally reuse Nier character model maybe 2B model for her

>>712792228
I'll just wait for NG4 Black then

>>712745203 (OP)
How's the booba this time around? I'm a little worried since microsoft is funding it

>>712800462
what about long periods of reconnaissance out in the summer heat? i dont think they would be bringing a razor with them. maybe we could formally request team ninja to consider adding armpit hair sliders to the game? They can even make an armpit hair style DLC pack for the next DOA game. do you think they would be receptive to such an idea? or do you think that it would be too ahead of our time? we can ask team ninja if they have access to powerful enough technology to individually render each hair.

>>712745203 (OP)
Is there any bonus for pre ordering or should i wait?

>>712801171
if you preorder you get the SV scanner without having to unlock it.

>>712801121
>i dont think they would be bringing a razor with them
No shot, bro. The 3rd game is literally called Razor's Edge.
The world isn't quite there yet but I wish you luck on your further preaching.

>>712802506
im not quite convinced that the game is referring to ayanes grooming device, if anything i would make the argument that the razors edge subtitle is referring to ayanes armpit stubble and pubes which cut through her leotard.

>>712783159
>>712783793
tell me what's happening here
https://streamable.com/qd4s7k
https://streamable.com/kbhovu
people are modding 2 black to have the same delimb rates as og for fucks sake

>>712803386
not those anons but just wanted to give you my opinion on it

thats cool but the only reason people should be modding 2, is to give female characters real time sweating mechanics, where the more they attacks and run around the sweatier they get.

>>712746354
>>712798712
Good morning tendie jeet marketers

>>712797135
Why is she cosplaying as Trish from the Devil Mqy Cry series?

>>712800083
Holy kek

>>712797135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdRbvu88b-M
me when I see Ayane.

I won't play NG4 because I hate forced minigames / forced segments that play nothing like the actual game.
I avoided Bayonetta and TW101 for that reason.

>>712806209
>hate forced minigames / forced segments
You must hate God Hand too. Shit taste bro.

>>712807112
that game sucks though

what action bideo games should I play next? Cleared all ng games already, beat nioh 2 today too...

>>712809220
proof?

>>712809323
I second this

>>712809323
nigga what

>>712809220
Nioh isn't an action game.

>>712810249
it's a pseudo-action

>>712810367
wait, I came up with a better one
it's a post-action-era action game

>>712753590
Wait that is a scythe? I dont see it

>>712753590
If I squint hard enough it looks like cope

>>712757804
delimbs aren't there to promote offense, delimbs are there to have free iframes because the game spawns one billion enemies and it's ass to play

>>712745203 (OP)
is anyone even losing their mind over this? where are the WHHHHHHOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAA NINJA GAIDEN FOUR!!!!!!!! WWWHOOOOAOAOAOOAOAOAA reactions?

Every single boomer/zoomer I have seem watching the xbox summer show didn't give a shit about this game and was more excited for that GAME FREAK game lol

>>712811993
Nobody cares about character action games nowadays I thought that was well established

>>712812253
>character action
kys zoomer

>>712811654
NTA but it's both, it promotes always being on the offense and being proactive and the the i-frames are there to ensure cohesive gameplay loop where upon successful delimb you can finish off a wounded enemy quickly ( even the NG2 documentary mentions how a worthy opponent will finish off a wounded enemy quickly out of respect ) which is thematically cohesive and give yourself brief window for a breather ( also the i-frames were for gameplay reasons, otherwise it would stop mid-kill and glitch out )

>>712811993
>Ninja Gaiden was never a popular series because it was stuck on Xbox and overshadowed by shooters in the 360 era so the brand has no recognition
>Oldheads see their favorite protagonist and gameplay being shelved for something totally different
>Newcomers see twink fag protagonist anime art style and think it's some low budget anime game from a no-name studio
Not using Ryu and having a bland art style basically killed this game. It's DOA and I'm not talking about Ayane and Kasumi's games.
At least Ragebound is pretty good.

>>712811993
One of them was a reveal you fucking retard

I don't know if i want to buy it. I bought the recent PC release and did have a lot of fun but i just don't replay linear games. My first run was already plenty difficult and i find no fun in making it more difficult. So i did get around 12 hours of fun but for 60 bucks it was a hard sell. I don't know if NG4 is more or less the same, meant to be played over and over with different weapons and on a harder difficulty setting to up the challenge. It pretty much feels like a score attack game. Like 'can you beat that boss if we make the attack windows even smaller, his hits harder, his health pool larger and he spawns more adds?" Basically a fighting game.

Wo Long or Ronin?

>>712812253
They never cared ever.
>>712812375
There are many people that say they're going to buy the game day one but 99% of them aren't even excited.

>>712812510
When every DMC5 trailer was shown there were so many fans losing their mind. In fact, when DMC4SE was shown WITHOUT ANY GAMEPLAY just a fucking Vergil pose and a logo at the end of a DmC DE trailer DMCfags lost their fucking mind they were drowning in hype and excitement.

But Ninja Gaiden 4...
A fuckton of faggots making concern videos as if they were ever good a ninja gaiden
No one making a excited BREAKDOWN HYPE video viewing every single second of the trailer

>>712811993
I'm 100% getting NG4 cause I'm really starved for games like this but I'm sure it will flop since this type of gameplay is just not popular with the normalgroids.

>>712813347
What's there to be hyped for? This game isn't even being made by Team Ninja. It's an outsourced project. Everyone who made the original games is not at all involved with this game. At least Ragebound got the original composers from the NES games to work on the game. NG4 couldn't even do something like that.

>>712765138
NGB has the best combat, NG2&RE just made all moves extremely overpowered so Ryu has to fight an entire army for those games to feel challenging.

>>712811993
>>712813347
why are you bragging about loving goyslop?

>>712813621
>not popular with the normalgroids
wdym

>>712813347
NG has always been the niche franchise while DMC is the normie series.

>>712813109
I really liked Ronin. For a couple reasons. First because there is no magic, the parry system leads to very satisfying executions, the character creator is damn good too and playing my waifu(s) is always a big plus, also transmog system so she can wear anything or nothing at all, the jap VO is damn good but the english is meh at best, the story is fucking weird because the PC is constantly(and i really mean constantly) switching sides and nobody really cares that you are working for the guy that you tried to kill 20 minutes ago and you're going to betray him again and then work for him again. That is probably the weakest part of the game. And you need a seriously beefy rig to get good performance.

Devil May Cry 5 failed due to not reaching its three main goals:

>Reviving its own franchise
>Reviving action games as a whole
>Kill the Soulslike influence in the medium


Will Ninja Gaiden 4 succeed where DMC5 failed?

who woke up the local schizophrenic fromdrone?

>>712750485
>A true fan knows this is not ninja gaiden
Anything that isn't a side scrolling beat-em up isn't a real NG.

I hope I’m wrong but I can’t trust post-Babylon Fall post-all major names quitting platinum

>>712813621
>>712813651
>>712813661
I just want to remind you guys: Armored Core games, meaning AC1 - ACVD(AC5) each game sold less than 100k units.
>FROMSOFTWARE gets their name big through Souls
>Cancelled all Armored Core projects
>11 years later
>Announce AC6
>Suddenly Armored Core is huge
And here's the icing on the cake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s91YCc0iwIo
The same guy who gets on his knees to suck FROM cock also hated every single game that company ever made

Meanwhile Ninja Gaiden was selling MILLIONS on the Xbox lol.

>>712813651
>At least Ragebound got the original composers from the NES games to work on the game. NG4 couldn't even do something like that.
And that's a good thing. 3 games and the only memorable track is alma. The trailer already has better music.

>>712814010
It's pretty interesting how much of a schizofrenic franchise Ninja Gaiden is

>A beat'em up
>Three action platformers which are the only games in the franchise that are consistent with each other
>Three (soon to be four) 3D action games which are somehw different from each other
>A 3D spinoff which is very different from the other 3D games

I have a hard time feeling sympathy for all the Ryu one weapons debacle.
This is because I remember when Devil May Cry 5 got announced and when we first saw Dante gameplay all the 'professional DMC player' dudes on twitter had these obnoxious ass kneejerk reactions about how "CAPCOM REMOVED STYLE SWITCHING?!!??!?"
Obviously, Dante had style switching and even more mechanics on top of that in the full game.
Then this shit happened AGAIN with the Vergil DLC and all the 'high level' players on twitter did the same thing again and were shitting themselves with these obnoxious kneejerk reactions again over Vergil only having the Yamato and Capcom cutting Beowulf and Force Edge from his moveset
Not only did Vergil have the Beowulf and the Force edge on top of the Yamato like usual, but they all got multiple new moves as well.

I feel like this is the exact same thing that is happening with NG4. These obnoxious ass 'pro players' with their knee jerk reactions and "RYU ONLY ONE WEAPON CONFIRRRRMEEEED THEY CONFIRMED IT" when in reality they actually haven't confirmed anything at all and they are just extrapolating this because there is only a Blade of the Archfiend (it got destroyed in the previous game) skin for the Dragon Sword.
The game could end up with Ryu only having the DS which would be bad and feel really strange when this new character has tons of weapons, but there is a constructive way to go about this and having meltdowns is not the constructive way to go about making your concerns known.

>>712814793
I need the revenue

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvzuOFsLlO4
This guy is the voice of the ninja gaiden community and he doesn't even play ninja gaiden. how does that happen lol???

>>712813885
DMC5 did revive the franchise. It's just that only one team is working on that franchise at a time and that team was doing DD2 which is why we haven't seen DMC6.
Kumyabe, Itsuno's protege, has already been hinting at the series future.
DMC5 is the best selling game in the series and Capcom has done a pretty good job at keeping interest in the series high though the Dogma 2 drought period
It's really quite simple, there are two big boys at Capcom, and no matter how much Capcom try and placate fans by saying DMC is one of their pillars as well, this is just not true.
It's Resident Evil and Monster Hunter all the way.
DMC6 has a chance to change this because the series has so many new fans at this point.
If DMC6 is well presented and they actually have a good idea for it, then it could easily go ahead and become a far bigger launch than DMC5 and maybe Capcom will consider having two teams doing that series.

>>712814793
You're kind of screaming at clouds here. The biggest knee jerk reaction to DMC5 were poser fans thinking Nero was actually Donte and that it was DmC2 announcement.
But besides that, it's kind of the fault of the marketers not showcasing all of the available weapons BUT first hand showcasing deluxe edition paid weapon skins... which Ryu only has ONE and Yakumo has FIVE. So it's rather easy to deduct that Yakumo has 5 unique weapons and Ryu only one, no?
Even the mega NG shill that partnered up with TN started coping about the weapon count presumably because he played the pre-release demo.

>>712813885
DMC revived it
Bayo3 reminded everyone why its shit so it got unrevived
NG4..... it'll probably do mediocre
Platinum Games came out with a Good Ending since they're company exist and is back on the market

>>712815036
>doomnigger who never played NG tries to appeal to other poser doomniggers
>they eat it up like the eceleb slop eaters they are
damn that's crazy

>>712815104
>The biggest knee jerk reaction to DMC5 were poser fans thinking Nero was actually Donte and that it was DmC2 announcement.
This is irrelevant to my post thougheverbeit. Not sure what the point is.
It can simply be the case of Ryu's weapons being important from a story pov and they are keeping it hidden, or maybe as a surprise for the full game or they have not created skins for existing weapons to keep the 'purity' of those weapons unlike Yakumo whose weapons have no history or established design.
For me, I'm waiting until release and seeing if he has weapons or not and if he doesn't then I will do whatever survey they put out and make this known because Team Ninja are good with that stuff.

>>712815391
>doomnigger who never played NG tries to appeal to other poser doomniggers
Beside /v/ where else has there been doomposting about this niche game?

>>712814793
Sometimes devs are stupid. DMC4 Nero, V, and Viola from Bayo 3 all got okayed despite obviously having shallow and unpolished gameplay.

>>712815479
that youtube link obviously

>>712815553
and where else?

>>712815071
>DMC5 did revive the franchise
Then where are DMC6 and 7?
Why didn't DMC become a Capcom pillar like RE and MH?
Why didn't DMC replace either RE or DMC as a Capcom pillar?
Why every single action-with-swords game released since 2019 is a Dark Souls clone?

DMC5 was an absolute failure of a game
>But it's the best selling DMC game
DMC5 has been a bundle feature for years; anyone can pay literal cents to buy it at any time.
5 million sales at an average of $5 per copy =/= 5 million sales at an average of $60 per copy.

>>712815483
DMC4 Nero is fleshed out compared to Viola and V.

>>712815579
you tell me, i'm not the one watching that garbage lmao

>>712815635
I didn't watch it either, at least not more than 30 seconds, lol. Fuck that nigger

>>712815587
>if it doesn’t become the biggest franchise ever then it’s a failure!
Shut up retard.

>>712815587
>Then where are DMC6 and 7?
I explained this.
It still doesn't sell as well as RE and MH.
DMC5 became the best selling DMC game when it launched and it has sold consistently since it released.
5 million sales at a low price is not the bad thing you think it is.
It means 5 million more people have grown the fandom and this means when Capcom makes DMC6 it is more likely that it sells even more at launch than DMC5 because there are more fans that got exposed to the series now through 5.
It's called organic growth, not some overnight CoD Elden Ring success story that just does unfathomably better than anything before it.

>>712815419
>It can simply be the case of Ryu's weapons being important from a story pov and they are keeping it hidden
Oh yes, because it's such a spoiler that Ryu will get a new weapon like uhh he did in every fucking Ninja Gaiden game. Even NG3 (original version) had different sword skins because of story reasons (Hayate's sword, Genshin's sword) and they were revealed before the game was out. It's pure cope to think that an action game studio selling an action game would be actively hiding multiple playable new weapons as some sort of a cool little secret. Please don't delude yourself.
You cannot even make an argument that there would be a cool little hidden costume in this day and age, as it would have been a pre-order DLC or deluxe paid costume... which is exactly what is happening here with NG4. They are selling fucking legacy NG and LBF costumes for ng4.
Seriously, how fucking stupid can you get? Am I supposed to delude myself because your marketers are doing such a shitty job?

Its very weird to have a new character having multiple weapons after Nero and Viola.

>>712815036
>this guy is the voice of the DMC community
ftfy

>>712814171
AC2 sold about a million, but it got a boost as a launch title on PS2. Multiple games sold above 100k, AC was keeping From on life support until Souls blew up.
But your overall point is right. A new game has a much larger pool of players to draw from than games back in the 2000s, especially if the dev is much more popular now than then.
But this won't happen with NG4 because they made it ugly and TN lost all their good will built up via Nioh2 with turds like Wo Long. And TN didn't even make it

>>712815876
Shadow walker, biometal and Fiend Ryu were all microtransaction skins for NG2 when it released.

>>712814171
>also hated every single game that company ever made
He's a gaming 'journalist'. He has to play ball for that sweet access.

The game looks fun

>>712815735
>>if it doesn’t become the biggest franchise ever then it’s a failure!
Yes.

>>712815767
If DMC5 had been the success you claim it is Capcom wouldn't have thrown it into the trash to make new IPs (Path of the Goddess, Pragmata), keep milking RE and MH or reviving Onimusha (which happens to be the franchise that would be the easiest to repurpose into a modern parry fest).

>It means 5 million more people have grown the fandom
It means that people like to collect games on their Steam accounts just because they're cheap.
No one of those 5 million people would buy a full priced DMC6 and Capcom knows it.

>>712815623
Nero still only has a single weapon. Exceed barely adds anything, his gun sucks, and the buster interrupts combos to play long pre-made animations. Even DMC1 Dante feels more complex.

>>712816360
When you are this contrarian you delegitimize your own argument because of how completely stupid you make it look.

>>712815036
Never forget

>>712816282
It really seems to me like you are just intensely mad at DMC for some reason. Have a nice day.

>>712815973
It's platinum's "we still got it" after all those flops.

>>712816507
>Can't argue with facts so gonna deflect
I accept your concession.

>>712816070
>Wo Long bad
You need to form your own opinions instead of listening to game journalists.

>>712816439
How am I wrong? I genuinely prefer playing DMC1 over 4. Nero becomes so boring after just a few missions you’re never unlocking any interesting new things to play with.

>>712816070
I think Koei Temco as a company has been pretty successful in the past 5/10 or so years with a few road bumps like Wo Long which still did well in terms of sales. Rise of the Ronin was a bigger project and I think it sold poorly. Besides RotR everything else they release including JRPG shit like Atelier has sold more than it did in the past. I believe NG4 will at least meet the bare minimum sales expectations.

>>712790265
No one was okay with 4. Everyone butched about the change and then calmed down a little once they learned half the game will be Dante.

>>712816775
Ronin actually sold 2m at $70. There's just no hype around it.

>>712816667
Wo Long has some fun bosses but it’s a discount Nioh through and through.

>>712816861
Wo Long is not Nioh. You need to look at it as a different game because it is.

>>712816934
All the things that make it different also make it worse.

>>712816775
This year had anither bump in the road via Atelier Yumia being eclipsed by Expedition 33

>>712797414
>>712800083
>>712801121
>>712802506
>>712802862
The average philosophical debate between two Ninja Gaiden anons.

>>712816861
>>712816934
I need to finish Nioh 2 and play Wo Long :(
But Ronin looks like dog shit from what I've seen

>>712817025
Stop being attached to 1(one) game.

>>712816859
Wasn't that game funded by Sony? I doubt 2 million units was enough. They were probably wanting 8 million or something

>>712816246
this, I haven't played the old games so I give zero fucks if this is "not real Ninja Gaiden" as long as it's fun.
I'm sorry for the fans of the first games who were hoping for a resurgence of their favourite series, but this is definitely gonna sell more than what the game they wanted would have
>>712817074
>But Ronin looks like dog shit from what I've seen
dw Nioh 3 is gonna come out next year so you can just skip RotR

>>712813885
Only her game can save the hack and slash action genre.

>>712817371
>hack and slash action
>HASA
Honestly sounds better than CAG, J-Action and Slash-Action.

>>712817282
It was funded by Sony, so KT need even less sales.
Remember Death Stranding? It was a loss for Sony. But it made enough money for Kojima. And DS2 is coming out.

>>712816667
I personally couldn't play more than 10 hours each time I played it. It just didn't reel me in like Nioh. I didn't mention Ronin since I haven't played it.
Fuck you for putting words in my mouth, nigger

>>712817039
Yumia was also a horribly boring game. I wanted to love it but they made it way too brainless.

>>712817630
You are in the wrong because you didn't beat the game or elaborate what's bad.

>>712817568
You're right. I guess it it's not so bad for KT.
>>712817503
Apparently the term "Character Action Games" comes from ResertERA so I thought it was always hilarious how many everyone hates them but they latched onto a term made by them. 4channers called the games "Stylish Action" and then "Cuhrayzee" because "Stylish Action" was some Capcom shit.

>>712817164
I’m not. I liked Stranger of Paradise and Ronin for how they experimented with their gameplay. Wo Long just has the simplest combat plus annoying exploration with the morale banner system. It has no unique identity it literally feels like if you told an A.I. to make Chinese Nioh with some Sekiro mixed in.

>>712817292
Those fans aren't fans. They're "rockstar" obsessed retards that can't admit the crackhead hack they worship is pushing NFT shovelware because he has no talent.

>>712818201
t. clueless shitter

>the game is gonna have 45 achievements
W or L?

>>712817074
Ronin is comfy for larping as a samurai.
The bayonet is one of the best weapons they ever made too.

>>712818336
Keep coping as much as you want. We’re getting Nioh 3 instead of Wo Long 2 for good reason.

>>712818550
Why would they make wo long 2 before nioh 3? Retard.

>>712818375
Source?

>>712818201
I liked Wo Long a lot, its a beautiful game with ridiculously fun fast paced combat. love how good it feels to parry and the combat animations combined with the sparkles and effects.
the ost is amazing, goes without saying.

>>712818201
the aesthetics are overall pretty mid too imo, it felt like the devs weren't able to pour as much love into them as they did with their jap settings, which is understandable since they are japanese but still

>>712745203 (OP)
how ninja gaiden 2's decomp is going is the only news i care about

>>712817742
And still it was a better game than the french slop.

>>712818709
Can't see what they are, just the number.

>>712818550
Wo Long 2 was also in that twitter leak

>>712818776
Good morning sir

>>712818550
more team ninja is always a reason to celebrate and both nioh and wo long are better than 99% of other trash being released, so why be a shit posting nigger?

>>712819180
morning bro.
whats your favorite team ninja game?

>>712818201
You sound like you don't know how to vary your play style. Try mixing spells. They are actually fun, useful and smoothly merged into combat.

>>712819042
What leak?
>>712819187
Sure more TN is always good but there’s no denying Wo Long was a dud. Weird how defensive some people are over it.

>>712819445
>dud
seems like it did pretty well for KT. oh let me guess, you not liking it is considered “muh flop”?
kill yourself faggot.

>>712819445
You can stop now. We knew you got filtered by the game already.

>>712818970
Interesting. The usual ones of use said technique for first time, kill boss, complete chapter, clear difficulty(s), bloated weapon kill requirements, collect all gourdies, and maybe rank based clears for story/side modes. Might be fun.

>>712819445
it's not their magnum opus but calling it a dud is a bit harsh imo

>>712819445
There's some japanese guy who leaked team ninja's upcoming games on twitter. Ronin, Nioh 3 and Ninja Gaiden 4 were in the list and they've been released/announced. Wo Long 2 was also in the list.
The image periodically gets reposted in Team Ninja game threads, I don't have it at hand.

>>712819424
The spells are okay but you’re still just spamming deflect+spirit attack most of the time.

>>712819754
But spamming dodge and MA in Nioh1/2 is god tier combat?

>>712819529
>>712819539
>zero self awareness
lol
>>712819636
Dud is the perfect word for how meh the reception was to the game. Especially since TN were hoping to break into the Chinese market.

>>712819868
Nioh gives you more combat options and doesn’t make parrying the default strategy.

>>712819691
WL2 is not coming out soon. The director is working on NG4 with Platinum.

>>712819445
It wasn't a dud though, it just wasn’t Nioh 2 levels of cracked, which is a high bar to clear. Wo Long had solid combat, hyped animations, and the whole deflect system was a nice shakeup from stamina management. Sure the loot system was still a mess and the levels kinda blurred together, but it wasn’t some massive flop. People just expected another Nioh and got filtered by timing windows. The leak’s been floating around since late last year, had a list of KT projects and so far it’s been oddly accurate.

>>712819754
>outting yourself as a shitter
lmao

>>712820038
How is dodging not default strategy? You will instantly lose all ki if you block for more than 2 hits.

>>712820060
Wo Long is one of those games that would go from ok to amazing with a few easy fixes (removing morale, adding proper skill trees for MAs and making enemies not hyper armor through everything)

>>712819928
Yeah bro I am sure 5 million players isn't enough for breaking into China.
Stop projecting your wish onto games.

>>712819928
You are like that guy spamming NG4 doomposts but for an already successful game.

>>712820303
Wo Long did well enough but it definitely tanked TN's reputation and as a result much fewer people bought Ronin and Nioh 3 may suffer the same fate.

>>712820257
The enemies don't hyper armor if you know what you're doing. Wo Long haters are literally a bunch of retards that don't know how to play the game.

>>712817794
I don't have to beat a game to decide I don't like it. I'm not crazy enough to hate play something.
I didn't like the energy system or whatever it was called. The bar that builds up when you attack and parry. I feel like the flow of the game is too dictated by that.

>Ninja Gaiden thread
>Nu-TNfags talking about their dogshit soulslikes pretending to be action games
Get OUT. TN died in 2008.

>>712813751
>First because there is no magic
sounds so good, dislike demon shit in video games

>>712815369
>Bayo3 reminded everyone why its shit so it got unrevived
Bayo3 played nothing like 1 and 2

>>712820545
this is a Ninja Gaiden 4 thread, it's not for you bitter oldfags

>>712817742
That's what happens when you try to pursuit ALL the audiences at the same time: the result is a boring inoffensive unfocused mess.
Doom the dark ages is another example.

>>712820060
>Wo Long had solid combat
Sure but that’s to be expected from modern TN. All their recent games have good fundamentals in their combat systems. It’s the gimmicks they add on top that make or break them.
>hyped animations
Many weapon animations were recycled from Nioh. Unless you mean the special counters? Sure they look cool but functionally they’re just burst counters that are slightly easier to trigger.
>the whole deflect system was a nice shakeup from stamina management
It makes combat feel simpler and more repetitive for me. People compare it to Sekiro but Sekiro actually makes you vary up your reactions. Parrying, jumping, sprinting, grappling hook, mikiri counter, and lightning reversal were all required to dodge/counter certain attacks compared to Wo Long where you can literally just stand in place and parry to win.

>>712820450
You have no idea what you're talking about. Ronin sold 2 millions. Faster than Nioh or Wo Long.
And now you are dooming Nioh 3 just because you have personal vendetta against a game you didn't even finish.

>>712820257
>removing morale
morale was goated, loved exploring levels and placing down flags.

>>712820440
It happened and it was mediocre. There won’t be any sequels. What more is there to say?

>"Wo Long is a secret ultimate masterpiece"

DMC2, YIIK, Doom 3, Wanted:Dead and now Wo Long. What's with /v/ and contrarianism?

>>712821101
>Ronin sold 2 millions
Source?

>>712820981
>Parrying, mikiri counter, and lightning reversal
You know these are QTEs, right?

>>712821143
>Wanted:Dead
That's just Morkism.

>>712821143
the game was only hated because it wasn't nioh 1.6 with "deep combat" (I am referring to the normies who played the whole game on mid stance only and no ki pulse)

>>712821154
KT financial report FY 2024 methinks

>>712821143
Who are you quoting?

>>712821214
As opposed to “parry the big red attack at the right time”? At least some of them require two button inputs at the same time.

>Y-YOU GOT FILTERED! YOU NEVER EVEN PLAYED IT!
What’s your next cope?

>>712821283
I don't think they officially disclosed the numbers just said some marketing babble like how it's "on track to outsell Nioh" or something

>>712821371
>I don't have dodge button on my controller
You do know there are MAs with i-frames in Wo Long, right?

>>712821360
/v/

>>712821467
Never questioned if you played it. I said you don't know what you're doing and played it like a retard.

>>712821143
>>712821270
The true successor.

>>712821517
They said new ip sales exceed 2m but didn't reach 5m.

>>712821536
Doesn’t matter when you can counter every single attack.

>>712821604
Could new IP also include other games or was Ronin their only new IP recently?

>>712821652
>it doesn't count
as expected from sekirofag who admires QTE gameplay

>>712821567
>I somehow beat the game and all of its DLCs by playing the wrong way
Sounds like bad game design desu.

>>712821704
They didn't say only 1 new ip sold 2m. But even if they did. There's no bigger new ip than Ronin.

>>712821787
>QTEs are kino when TN does them!
Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>712821979
>>QTEs are kino when TN does them!
this but unironically

What's going on.

>>712821845
There's no wrong way. You just chose to play it the boring way according to yourself.

>>712818375
Ligma 1 - 41
Ligma 2 - 51
3re - 48
4 - 45
Ok I guess

>>712821979
>I don't know I have other tools so it's QTE
embarrassing

>Year of the Ninja
>only Ragebound and Shinobi will be good

>>712821143
>Wanted:Dead
It's a good game thobeit, not a masterpiece but solid and fun combat system with decent replay value. Just wish the devs added stage select, timed/score attack mode, combo/scoring system, leaderboards, skippable minigames, higher difficulty and unlockables.

>>712821845
You can beat nioh in mid stance with a block button and 1 attack button. You can beat ng with izuna drop and flying swallow. You can fucking S rank DMC5 with faust, blue rose and random mashing with V. There are all kinds of retarded ways to play any game effectively.

>>712822267
Ninja Gaiden 2 Black was already kino though.

>>712821845
it's the problem with all dodge and attack games, as long as you dodge and attack you'll get by

>>712822093
So what’s this secret trick to make the game more fun? I’m waiting.

>>712822359
It's UE5 slop though.

>>712822393
What's fun to you? Explain it without metaphor.

>>712820450
>o-okay so it was not a dud b-but (more schizo head cannon)
just come clean with us all anon, why do you hate team ninja?

>>712822308
>You can beat ng with izuna drop and flying swallow
enemies counter FS on higher difficulties

>>712821964
Well I'll concede then, I thought it did much more poorly. It flopped hard on PC, however.

>>712822419
Looked and played great to me.

>>712822184
>no you see you just need this one martial art attached to a random weapon drop, then you can use I-frames from it to awkwardly dodge some attacks!

>>712745203 (OP)
Ah yes I can wait for not metal gear rising

>>712822528
Being a better man.

>>712822530
I'm not the guy who called it a dud

>>712822647
Every weapon has i-frames. You also have i-frame spells. Dodge is free as well.

>>712822359
lol
lmao even

>>712822419
unreal slop is literally unironically okay when team ninja or atlus does it

>>712822737
well you’re both delusional faggots.

Friendly reminder that LobosJR beat both Nioh games without changing stances or even using ki pulse.

>>712822287
A lot of that is present in Jack's game albeit. Why must you ignore it's greatness? Guess /v/ waits for e-celeb approval. Grim.

>>712822528
Re fantazio

>>712822760
You can apply the same logic to Sekiro’s gameplay. Calling either game a QTE is retarded.

uh saar the nioh 2 is high iq I stack anima regen and spam datara to make enemy stop in place then I spam my rapid hit hold move to nuke hp

>>712822767
>outsouroced to SEAmonkeys
2blacked is just a shitty reskin of sigma2 but worse

>>712823083
here>>712822781
there’s nothing more to be said, move on.

>>712822078
Schizo civil war.

>>712822983
games mid I dropped it

>>712823280
of course you did, faggot.
you niggers are as predictable as the rising sun.

>>712822993
The difference is mikiri only works for mikiri, lighting reversal only works on lighting. But you can parry, i-frame, lifting hitbox with MA/jump for everything in Wo Long.

>>712823328
Get some standards atlustard.

>>712823380
You can't parry mid-air. That's one major flaw of WL.

>>712823429
name a better rpg

>>712821581
They put every last penny they had into making the combat good. Wish more people would have tried it but sadly it’s delisted now.

>>712823380
But you can use prosthetic tools like the umbrella and fire crackers in similar ways too. Still think it’s better to have attacks that require you to react in certain ways over being able to parry every attack.

>>712821581
People pretend this game is good because it's a licensed game based on a property people have mad nostalgia over.

>>712823792
why even entertain that anons shit opinion?
even if parrying is the sole answer to everything in wo long, that does not make it less of a challenging game.
there is literally nothing out there which plays like wo long and dumb faggots being filtered out from this kino is a good thing.

>>712824004
>there is literally nothing out there which plays like wo long
And that’s a good thing!

>>712823468
Almost anything, Hyperdimension Neptunia is better than their garbage. If you want something actually good go play the romancing saga 2 remake.

>>712823792
>Still think it’s better to have attacks that require you to react in certain ways over being able to parry every attack.
No opinion over your preference.
It's possible to implement both in one game though. Just make certain ways deal more damage than universal parry.

>>712823925
>People pretend
No.

>>712822767
modders fixed it btw

>>712823925
The combat is actually good but it’s packaged in the cheapest PS2 looking aesthetics. Playing on higher difficulties is the closest thing I felt to playing NG2 again with how many enemies they throw at you. Especially when you’re fighting the ninjas.

>>712824713
Did I stutter?

>>712824878
You made a foolish statement.

>>712823468
Expedition 33

>>712824713
>combat is actually good
Yes.
>packaged in the cheapest PS2 looking aesthetics
How is that a bad thing?
>higher difficulties is the closest thing I felt to playing NG2
This.

>>712825146
It’s a bad thing because more people would have played it if it had better character models and animations.

>>712825315
I personally avoided it for two reasons
>Tie-in games are always shit
>I've never watched Samurai Jack
So probably that's how it went for most consumers.

>>712825831
>I've never watched Samurai Jack
Fix that problem right now man you missed out.
Just stop watching after Season 5 episode 3.

>>712818776
I only played the demo for Wo Long but I think I will get the full game before Nioh 3 comes out.

>>712824713
Not him but I really like how floaty the combat initially feels because of how many of the essential basic moves are locked behind in the skill tree. It gets better but some enemies are straight up bitches, like the dogs from NG2.

>>712826263
>I really like
Fuck meant to say *didn't.

>>712745203 (OP)
I'm super hyped for Astral Chain 2
I liked the part of the trailer where Yakumo has an exclamation mark to tell me that an unblockable attack is coming.

>>712826435
I hope there'll be a setting to turn this shit off.
Or if all else fails that modders will remove it

>>712825831
>I've never watched Samurai Jack

>>712826435
Don't forget the big ass red arrow telling exactly which direction its coming from, just in case the retarded journalists get confused by the [!]

You haven't truly experienced NGB until you clear mission mode on MN.

>>712826263
True the skill tree feels like artificial padding.

>>712826585
Don't forget about the OTHER reticle arround the character, constantly showing you where the enemies are at all times

just got ronin broes, there's nothing else left to play...

>>712826238
I only like anime (and even then I've almost stopped watching it since 2023) so Samurai Jack isn't my cup of tea.
The fact that you warn people to stop watching after a certain point means that it shits the bed after a certain point which makes it a pointless watch.

>>712825831
>I've never watched Samurai Jack

They made MGR2

>>712827298
How so?

>>712826708
It's honestly fucking embarrassing how pervasive this retarded push for muh accessibility has gotten, even wormed its way into the most action-based vidya with this retarded amount of handholding and "quality of life", it's as if their target audience is the handicapped and physically impaired.

>>712827838
The average zoomer gamer considers anything harder than genshin impact too hard. You either do this shit or your game won't sell enough

>>712827064
>The fact that you warn people to stop watching after a certain point means that it shits the bed after a certain point which makes it a pointless watch.
This is literally every shonen anime.

>>712827298
KEK I'll take it, all i need is a DLC skin to go with it

>>712785676
Got a Xbox One S All Digital for 99€ in 2019, played a fuck ton of games in a couple of months with Gamepass. Still would have been worth it without that just for playing Ninja Gaiden 2 for the first time.

>>712827838
Even Soulslikes have difficulty settings now.
The most recent Khazan patch went the extra mile and bumped up the difficulties:
>easy became the new normal
>normal became hard
>a new easier difficulty is the new easy

>>712827838
This is going to flop hard. The game doesn't have to be easier, it has to be fun, even to fail. The only reason zoomers can't pick up and play NGB like it was dark souls is the camera. Release a carbon copy but where you can see Ryu clearly at all times and reposition your view as naturally as in modern games and it'll sell. Putting all journalist mode shit and yellow "paint" just says platinum has no talent left and it's just a bunch of kids following what they were told to do in game dev school to the letter

>Ninja Gaiden thread.
>Nobody talking about Ragebound.

What went wrong?

>>712828115
So?

>>712829085
Holy rollsplop, why is this move invincible again?

>>712828247
>easy became the new normal
Wouldn't be surprised if its the case for NG4 too given the footage shown on IGN, the guy apparently said it was captured on medium/warrior but it looked like it was on acolyte. Mentor will probably be closer to warrior or something between warrior and mentor in terms of difficulty.
>>712828726
I don't think it'll flop, Platinum looks to be doing everything to appeal to casuals.

>>712829085
Ryu should have Hypercharge as a mechanic in NG4

>>712788312
Big boobies!

>>712829298
As if rollslop is anything new in NG

I'm sorry, I don't get the hype for Ninja Gaiden Black. Tairon is too long, I just want more enemies like the original Ninja Gaiden 2 and less backtracking and roaming around

>>712829739
>dodge slop
>sword slop
>demon slop
>action slop
>video game slop
what were they thinking?

>>712829985
You get what you order when you play ninja slop

>>712759428
Those journos probably consider Devil May Cry 5 and anything with a witch time the peak of action character combat

>>712829365
There no reason for casuals to jump in. It's the theme of this thread, NG just isn't a famous series. If you release yellow paint remake slop like FF, silent hill, RE, etc. newfaggots will flock to it and tell you the original is shit and the new one is the best. Nobody knows what NG is, there's no street cred. Making NG easy is like making Dark Souls like nu-God of War after the moderate success of Demon souls. What players really want is something that will give them a sense of challenge but that feels fair and not that they lost because the camera decided to switch perspective at the wrong time. Even a retard like Asmonbald was playing through NG2B and enjoying it until he threw a fit over the camera. TN (and apparently P*) don't get what made their games good

>>712830238
you didnt like the new RE games? damn bro your taste in vidya is abysmally shit. like dwag, kill yourself fr.

>>712830238
I agree but casuals will jump in if they see their favorite e-celebs and vtubers shilling it, Xbox or Platinum will definitely post player numbers on xitter instead of copies sold since most will likely try it out on game pass instead of actually paying 70-90 shekels for it.

>>712821143
Wo Long had updates that improved it over time. Some people played those updates, most didn't. Who knows how much they actually change.

>>712823001
You say that, but most people don't even realize yokai abilities or anima even exist while playing the game.

>>712829739
3D i-frame roll ≠ 2D i-frame roll, and Ragebound is not a beat em up. This move is just too busted.

>>712831097
>THE ENGOODENING
Nah. When a game is rotten to its core there is nothing patches can do.

>>712821979
Wo long is fully designed around it.

>>712832153
and thats a bad thing because?

>>712829085
Because it's just a demo and most people will beat it once then not touch it, so they're not actually digging into the mechanics and figuring out what actually makes it cool and special.

I'm extremely hyped for it. I really wanna know if your moveset expands or not from the demo. They tease muramasa's shop so there has to be some kind of upgrades

>morons are now complaining about optional UI feature when the game is perfectly playable with no hud at all
Its inclusion is literally good as it ensures even the shittiest enemies on journo difficulty will have offscreen attacks. In older games even on MN many would just cease to function or try to get in frame. NG1 already had "yellow paint" and handholding from Ayane, you retards literally dont' play the games.

>>712832347
Why would you think I was implying that's a bad thing? The game is designed around those mechanics, which is why it fully works. Parry is lenient with a small amount of recovery, the game expects you to be able to parry the majority of moves without too much effort but it still keeps you on your toes. There are also opportunities where dodging or jumping is better, since it could give you a bigger opportunity to attack. Parrying is tied directly to your meter to do all of your non-light attacks and the game wants you to use high spirit to deal big damage. Parrying when you're in high spirit has no benefit

>itagaki schizo tranny shilling NG4
grim

So QTEs are good now?

>>712832503
>NG1 already had "yellow paint" and handholding from Ayane
This is true however the issue with yellow point is the lazy inclusion. There's no creativity to RE 4 demake yellow slather on everything while the purple kunais at least make sense in the world of that game.

>>712832503
>posting Itagaki while defending the casualization of the series

>>712833456
It's unironically some turd world indian twitter tranny who uses itagaki to avatarfag here.

>>712833721
Nah, the Itagaki avatarfag is Russian, which is even worse

>>712833425
NG1 literally had walls and ledges and other shit painted in blue color and the destructible environment looked genuinely retarded.
https://youtu.be/EcmLKgyYTMc?si=mGx6QngKzWweW-9S&t=251
https://youtu.be/EcmLKgyYTMc?si=BTa5Yv9kV0_X5Kjk&t=388
https://youtu.be/EcmLKgyYTMc?si=fJX3szr94sQkce7D&t=688

>>712822924
I'm playing it right now thoever.

>>712835084
This is factual but not a bad thing. Similar things are used in 3 with it's stage interactions. Just basic design language in all video games.

>>712835432
This thread can archive happy now.

>>712790265
both 4 and 5 fucking suck lmao

>>712835573
4 is good and 5 is a masterpiece

>>712757616
That you’re retarded and love demake slop, and the retards here defending should be executed for faggot opinions

>>712767593
>video shows dude choosing to spam the same moves
>limpdicks are convinced this is an own

NG2 haters are literally just retards with ZERO testosterone lmao

>>712836550
>video shows dude choosing to spam the same moves
>It's all about killing the dozens upon dozens of enemies thrown at you at once as quickly as possible before they overwhelm you.
There is 0 reason to do anything else.

>>712836758
This is true

>>712836758
>zero reason to do anything else


Like I said, ZERO testosterone. It’s why faggots need little heckin quirky Zelda puzzles to solve, feminine joints degrade easily.

>>712835443
Nah second game was the only one to get visual design right while making sure things looked organic. Rest is casualized slop

>>712836943
>Rest is casualized slop
Including Itagaki's NGB? For shame anon.

>>712754249
Kinda hard to fuck up the camera placement when all of the fighting areas are huge arenas to run around.

>>712836550
That fight is notoriously considered one of the hardest things in gaming (back in the day) but the reality is NG2 is poorly designed and you can just do a very simple strategy that isn't hard to figure out because it's present throughout the entire game

>>712836908
Post your gameplay in the next thread or you're the true limpdick

>>712838684
>That fight is notoriously considered one of the hardest things in gaming
No? It's a spectacle fight, there's nothing hard about it
It's not the church fight