>Game introduces a meta breaking class

The reason humans doninate is because God made us in his image and gave us dominion over animals.

>Is called walking homo
Yeah... animal gods stay winning

>>713854614 (OP)
https://youtu.be/EkUz6Ht9_t4

THEY THROW FUCKIN ROCKS

>>713854614 (OP)
The sweating and insane endurance helped in our favor too.
>>713854735
>implying we didn't create god in our image

>>713854735
Yeah, but you gotta admit throwing rocks is fun.

Why are neanderthals considered inherently shorter than humans if the average male neanderthal height was around 5'5 when 5'5 was extremely common in many pre-modern human societies and still is in many countries

If a game doesn't include the ability to throw rocks, it's a dud.

What game has the best rock?

>>713855050
NEW GAME MECHANIC

CHUCK A FUCKIN' BRICK

>>713854735
So why did G*d introduce so much suffering along with the introduction of other species? Why not just create a world where only humans exist?

>>713855134
Rock of ages

>>713854898
We evolved to have gods to explain the holes in our logic and allow the smartest person of the tribe to control the tribe, instead of the loudest strongest monkey.
And we biologically still have the "exploits" that were created by this,however its mostly used to sell iphones now.

>>713854898
humans don't have endurance for shit even proportionally
we have efficient stomachs and that's about it, but good nutrition is really important for a late-game INT build like ours

>>713854614 (OP)
could humans still compete if other animals were brought up to speed?

>>713855339
Humans are the single most endurant animal in the animal kingdom. Humans are able to outrun a horse over a long enough distance. No other species is capable of ultra marathons.

>>713855204
for the lols

Don't mind me. Just posting the best spell in Noita

>>713855339
Humans are excellent at distance running thanks to our lack of fur making heat management much easier than our fur coated compatriots. We're not as fast as many other animals, but we're good at just going at a constant pace. Ancient humans hunting tactics were often to just hit an animal once or twice and follow it until it got so exhausted it collapsed.

>>713855415
then why didn't people just ride humans everywhere? I swear you guys watch one vsauce video and act like experts.
>dude we... le SWEAT and have le butts!!!
Humans didn't walk after deer for 100s of miles, that would be retarded.

>>713855415
this meme is so fucking retarded
some faggot journalists filmed one (1) remote tribe in africa doing "persistence hunting" (not even actual persistence hunting) and suddenly a billion redditors started repeating this incorrect factoid
for example, do you have any idea how dense the pre agricultural forests of europe were? you couldn't run through that shit
99% of prehistoric humans hunted with AMBUSH TACTICS, MISSILES, and TRAPS
why the fuck would you waste your time chasing the animal?

>>713855415
>>713855557
>Humans are able to outrun a horse over a long enough distance
in a competition between two sweating species that win ekes out because of the efficient stomach leaving more fuel left in the tank
we're frail as shit in all other aspects and would be long dead if groups didn't scare the shit out of most predators

>>713855557
Doing this in UnReal World is the most satisfying shit in any video game I've ever played.

Until the fuckers run into thick spruce woods, then they're gone forever.

>>713855565
>then why didn't people just ride humans everywhere?
Because a horse is faster in the short distances required of travel, because riding a horse is less tiring, because a horse won't complain/try to kill you and can be made to comply through the use of pain, and because endurance of an individual doesn't imply endurance under load, you fucking retarded nigger dipshit baboon cunt inbred jackfuck.

>>713855339
>humans don't have endurance for shit even proportionally
There isn't a single other creature on this planet that could outrun us over a long distance. The only way they could escape is by hiding and covering their tracks.

>giga faggot xitter nigger posts an unrelated image to a video game board

SCIENTIFIC PROOF EVOLUTION COULDN'T HAPPEN

>Origin of life
There's no known way to turn non-living material into life, it's never been done before even in a lab. The belief that dust/water just randomly formed into functional DNA, proteins, a cell, etc. capable of reproducing itself is absurd.

>DNA
We OBSERVE genetic mutations delete data over time (e.g. we started with a grey wolf and only got increasingly retarded dogs like pugs and chihuahuas). You're just deleting or changing data randomly, and SELECTING from what is already there, and over time it always results in a net loss.

This alone proves Darwinism couldn't happen. Natural selection is real but it has limits. Darwinists are so retarded they look at a process and think it must have no limit.

https://youtu.be/jyATE9StbK8

>Origin of sexual reproduction
There is no known way asexual creatures could develop sexual reproduction through mutation. Any benefits (or the obvious -50% efficiency) are irrelevant. It's not possible.

This is called irreducible complexity, one part is useless or harmful without the other part(s).

>Missing links
There is not a SINGLE transitionary fossil series. There is some speculated, but none show transitions.

The scientific community believed Piltdown Man was a human ancestor for decades before discovering it was a hoax. The entire "fossil record" is unscientific, lining up the remains of different animals is not evidence they evolved into each other.

>Horseshoe crabs claimed to be the same for 400 million years
They claim you were a fish 400 million years ago.

"They're just perfect" is not a legitimate answer to how an animal could remain unaffected by evolutionary force for 400 million years.

>>713855339
Anon are you actually retarded? Ancient humans hunted by chasing prey until it collapsed from exhaustion. The only other animal that uses a similar strategy is the wolf, which is why our species started working together. Ancient wolves (aka the proto-dogs) sniff out and track the animal, humans bring the pointy sticks to kill it once it collapses.

>>713855718
>covering their tracks
Ok find the deer that ran in here
You do have a good nose for this, right?

>>713855565
>Humans didn't walk after deer for 100s of miles, that would be retarded
They still do it in some parts of Africa.

>>713855681
Well of course groups of us scare predators. They're not scared of groups of gazelles, but humans are intelligent enough to engage in pack tactics and to use tools to make up for our lack of natural weapons.
Obviously INT is just OP at high enough levels.

>>713855645
I didn't say humans used persistence hunting, you fucking retard. I said humans were the most endurant species in the animal kingdom. Fucking moron, learn to use your eyes and that sorry excuse for a brain before you open your fucking mouth.

Darwinists seriously think random DNA copying mistakes resulted in different mechanisms that are all useless or harmful by themselves until they're fully completed.

This is a really good example, it has two chemicals that when touch explode at 100C.

Every part of this is useless or harmful and would remain so for countless millions of generations, never having any reason to be selected for at best, until all of the different parts were completed... randomly.

This is essentially like me flipping random bits in your OS and expecting to get new features.

>>713855771
Darwinists are so retarded they think anatomically modern humans did nothing for 200,000 to 300,000 years and then all the sudden 4 years ago decided to create civilizations, writing systems, calendars, and start recording documents.

>>713855390
Speed? No.
Endurance? ez

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon
WE won again this year btw

>>713855763
Retard.

>>713855763
>>713855840
>tfw you will never be paid to derail threads into flame wars

>>713854735
The Milky Way alone has anywhere from 100 to 400 billion stars.
The Universe itself has even more galaxies than there are stars in the milky way.
Why did your god choose this one planet in this one solar system, one star of over 400 billion just in our galaxy alone?
Why did your God wait over 4.5 billion years since Earth coalesced to form in our solar system to create humans on Earth? Why did he create life during the Ediacaran and then Cambrian, none of those life forms looking anything like humans? Why did God have mass extinction after mass extinction wiping out almost all life on earth 5+ times until humans evolved? It's quite curious don't you think?
Why did God create a world that is filled with nothing but suffering for almost all life that exists? Animals eating other animals alive, parasites, viruses, bacteria, disease, why would such a benevolent creator create so much suffering? It seems pretty contradictory.

>>713854614 (OP)
>Gets farmed for exp

>>713855339
Hey bro, see this shit? Have you noticed that your dog doesn't do this? Bears don't do this? So how do they keep their body temperature down? Turns out, like absolute shit compared to us. Humans have insane endurance. Even when it comes to pain tolerance and recovery. A horse breaks its leg, you may as well shoot it to put it out of its misery 'cause it ain't getting better. A man breaks his leg, he's inconvenienced for a few months before it heals back stronger than before. That's not a common trait.

>>713855840
>resulted in different mechanisms that are all useless or harmful by themselves until they're fully completed
Sometimes they're still harmful to themselves even after being fully completed.

>>713855949
Brother if you broke your leg in the dark ages that was a death sentence, let alone fucking hunter gatherer times.

>>713855964
I don't get it

>>713855794
Heh... Nothing personnel, deer

>>713855390
imagine trying to do a pitcher's throw while balancing on your toes, or with hooves
we've given up a lot of strength in exchange for the flexibility required to throw rock good. our body plan is tailor made for throwing rocks, and that wouldn't change even if animals started walking upright and talking.
they can't throw rocks or spears like man, not unless they've got a 1:1 body like a human but with an animal head.

anyone who thinks endurance stamina wise, we're unmatched in pain tolerance is our special trait is a retard who's fallen for the millennia long propaganda that ranged fighting is dishonorable and thus unhuman.

>>713855889
God made men in his image across many planets and stars, separated by billions of lifetimes of space.
No entity in this universe could ever trek across the universe. Except for the One True Race, that was gifted Previous Warpstone. Then one day, they'll conquer the galaxy for the luls. Then they'll find out there are 400 billion other universes with 400 billions of their own stars and God's creations.
It's all for the lulz, lol.

>>713855794
Monkeys lived in forests, humans lived in savannas
If I'm in a forest I don't need to do big game hunting, I can eat the shit that grows in the forest with other critters as treats when the opportunity arises

>>713855702
Yeah I guess someone should've told all those frontier men or messengers to just walk instead. Idiot. You've clearly never done any research on this and just parrot crap you see here

>>713855763
>There's no known way to turn non-living material into life, it's never been done before even in a lab. The belief that dust/water just randomly formed into functional DNA, proteins, a cell, etc. capable of reproducing itself is absurd.
Both true and False. two billion years before the pre-cambrian, particulates in nutrient rich underwater sea vents pumping shit from within the earth probably allowed for carbon and stuff to stick to other stuff and over time creating the first bacteria. Bacteria coming together to form Eukaryotes took literally 2-3 billion years anon. Creature on earth really only have been around for 700 million years going from the pre-cambrian to the now holocene epoch

unironically what options did animals even have besides evolving into humanoids first?

>>713854614 (OP)
I don't think a rock would do much to an elephant, this would make sense with fire tho.

>>713854735
god is a rock throwing ape just like us. how do you think those dinos got smashed?

>>713855829
that's a myth
first of all, horses are slighlty more endurant, second of all basically every lizard, crab, and fish species can mog humans in endurance by a factor of like 3 or 4

>>713856131
>human lived in savannas
maybe your ancestors did, kek

>>713855949
>A horse breaks its leg, you may as well shoot it to put it out of its misery 'cause it ain't getting better
You think it was different for most cavemen?

>>713855763
That's funny because scientists did actually make RNA by recreating primordial soup. And RNA that self-replicated.

>>713856283
kek.

>>713856158
>nutrient rich
popsci reader detected

Genuinely how do you """outrun""" your prey if they have the speed to just go past the visible horizon of your shit human eyes and disappear? You're never finding that fucker, the savanna is full of tall grass obscuring them too.

>>713856356
just sweat it off bro

>>713856208
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon
Read and learn. And this is only over the course of 21 miles. There is no other species in the world that can run 100 miles unimpeded without needing to stop to avoid overheating.

>>713856283
>Neanderthals posting on /v/
really makes you think

>>713856173
Wanna know why Wooly Mammoths aren't around anymore?

>>713856310
They've found evidence of prehistoric humans with healed bones, wounds, nearly useless limbs, and even evidence of things like osteoporosis or arthritis. Turns out humans don't just dump their family and friends the second they stop being 'useful'

>>713854735
Preach brother, it’s sad that there are still so many sinners on /v/ rejecting the Lord’s light and embracing reddit science

>>713854735
If I was god, the first thing I would do is eliminate the need to eat in the first place.
We live in a nightmare world where animals are required to kill and eat each other to survive. Prey animals live in constant fear while predators live in constant hunger. This is why it's so easy for us to tame animals with food.
We've engineered so much safety around us we never feel this harsh reality. Until you go for a hike in the forest and get eaten alive by a grizzly bear.

If you time travel an adult man from 300,000 years ago to now, could he function properly

>>713856173
many humans, many rocks

>>713856356
we cheated by bleeding them out
the human endurance thing is a meme, of course you can catch up to a wounded animal leaving a blood trail

>>713856158
>>713856314
I legitimately think you're fucking retard if you believe this nonsense.

Do you understand how complex even the most basic single-celled organism is?

Imagine there's no life at all, just dust, water, heat, whatever else you want...

Now imagine that RANDOMLY forming into protein, DNA, and a cell, capable of reproducing itself.

Also radiometric dating is false, things of known age give wrong dates, and that's the only reason you think the Earth is old to begin with.

>>713856356
It's human copium, you see since video games were invented humans have come to realize that Int builds are for fucking losers so they've gaslit themselves into thinking they're actually "VitChads"

>>713856417
lmao homo erectus

Humans are so fucking badass. Faggots can cry all day about how we're too cruel, we're destroying the planet, and all that shit. But they wouldn't even have the chance to cry in the first place if we didn't already fucking dominate everything.

Look at Europe. What predators are there? None, because they killed all of them. In America or Australia? Predators exist because we think they're nice, we allow them to live because they're good for the ecosystem.

Sometimes, people ask me "If you could be any animal, what would you be?" and I say "A human." every time. We are the best thing out there and that's why we control this planet.

>>713856024
Ancient humans weren't heartless, they didn't just kill old people because they were old and useless, anon.

>>713856471
He would die from all our future diseases.

>>713856470
yeah but uhhhhh every animal ate tofu in the garden of eden

>>713855878
>what are idioms

>>713856471
he would probably die to a gorillion diseases he wasn't made for

>>713856394
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon
>more horse wins than human wins
how about YOU read and learn

>Playing a game with a meta

>>713856471
if you sent me a cavewoman wife I would not complain. Does that answer your question?

>>713856138
>didn't even read my reply, just responded to what he thinks i said
That's all I needed to see to know factually that you are a nigger irl

>>713856471
he'd feel right at home as an american politician

>>713856356
You don't run after a deer for hundreds of miles. You wound it and then follow it until a combination of blood loss, shock, and exhaustion make the thing collapse. Our endurance is impressive, but obviously that would mean little when the animal can get so far away you can't find it anymore. That is where wounding comes into play. Not to mention you have to remember humans can do things like cut off escape routes and funnel them towards a location where escape is harder. I mean we did run mammoths off of cliffs.

>>713856356
>if they have the speed to just go past the visible horizon
Animals can't sprint for long enough to go that far
>of your shit human eyes
Humans have excellent vision (if you didn't grow up in front of a computer two feet from your face) and particularly excel at tracking moving objects, such as prey moving in the distance
>the savanna is full of tall grass obscuring them too.
Big game is "big" for a reason
There used to be dozens of different gigantic mammals taller than a man at the shoulder and they're all dead now, what do you think happened to them?

>hfy reddit thread
gay

>>713854735
Yeah, by equipping us to utterly mog everything else in existence.

>>713856595
>be random gazelle in the garden of eden
>the humans break the rules
>suddenly everything is trying to kill me
>wtf god, the fuck did I do?

>>713856627
>le human beats le fast horse in a short trek of only 21 miles
>"heh! you're so wrong that humans are more endurant than horses"
You need to ask your parents for a refund on your genes. You're missing something critical in your brain

>>713856685
I wish, it's idiots arguing about the "human endurance" reddit meme

>>713856591
>>713856598
The spook germ theory isn’t real, answer seriously

>>713856685
reddit hfy is about aliens loving us and we make friends with them.

4chan hfy is about how we know we're better than them and they will kneel one way or another

>>713855840
This is bait but I'll play along.
There's no such thing as a Darwinist you retard. That would be like calling people who believe in Chemistry, Lavoisierists.

Lift your knuckles off the floor, comb your hair off your sloped forehead and put your dung away and read a fucking book.

>>713855886
It's gotta be possible, how do I start?

>>713854735
You got the reddit atheists seething

>>713856470
>animals stop eating
>within weeks all land is overwhelmed by swarms of insects multiplying uncontrollably
Great work PETA

>>713856508
Nigger, these things had 3 billion years to formulate. Do you understand how long 3 billions years is? And it wasn't just dust,water, and heat you had particulates, minerals and deposits from within the earth come up from these vents especially with large time scales like these you had earth crust and mantle churn and twist allowing for more material to come up. At some you'll have carbon, hydrogen, and nitrogen come together to formulate basic structures

>>713856740
sorry that you think posting wikipedia articles that you don't even read makes you look learned

>>713856394
>only 21 miles
It takes like 8 hours to walk 21 miles assuming you don't take any breaks.

>>713856762
send 10 bitcoin to my email and I'll tell you

>>713856801
And God has no power over insects?

>>713856508
No it's not false, you're a retard swallowing bullshit.

>>713856868
nigger what? It takes about 9 minutes to walk a single mile, at a leisurely pace. I once walked 30 miles as a joke, it only took 5 hours.

>>713856356
Have you been outside a city or on an open plain/steppe like the ones we evolved in? Nobody's sprinting over the horizon. It's dozens of miles away. Animals leave tracks, btw.

>>713856024
There are many examples of early modern humans with healed breaks in the archeological record.

>>713856591
>>713856598
Can't he get vaccinated?

While were on the subject of animal and human behavior, why dont herd animals just attack their predators? A bison gets attacked by a lion and the herd of hundreds runs away when they should turn around and stomp the lion to death. Humans actively group up and kill predators, why did no other herd animal develop this behavior?

>>713856859
>wikipedia is..........LE BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>713856471
You could raise an infant, it would probably be very difficult to socialize an adult man who may or may not have a developed sense of complex language

>>713856997
Predators usually separate them from the group.

>>713856997
They're afraid and are stupid

>>713856986
You want Grug to die AND become an autist?

>>713857040
That wasn't really the point he was making, retardbro

>>713856868
>walk
It takes 75 hours to crawl 21 miles lmao checkmate christians
Fucking retard

>>713856508
Bacterial DNA isn't helix shaped.

>>713856997
plenty of them do. they just tend to be a little bit more stupid and disorganized about it. rhinos, buffalos, elephants - the horns and tusks are multipurpose.

>>713855763
>There's no known way to turn non-living material into life
You do it every time you eat something
>The belief that dust/water just randomly formed into functional DNA, proteins, a cell, etc. capable of reproducing itself is absurd
It's a complicated chain of reactions with very niche circumstances, but all it takes is for a single imperfectly replicating combination to be strung together for a chain reaction to occur.
>We OBSERVE genetic mutations delete data over time
A mutation can add, delete, or shift things around. There's plenty of degrees of motion. If a large enough portion is double-copied, you can even end up with entirely new sets of limbs. Over enough generations, these different sets can diverge in purpose to reduce redundancy and increase function.
>There is no known way asexual creatures could develop sexual reproduction through mutation
Even asexual creatures have gene swapping functions, since lacking it leaves a species more susceptible to obliteration. A form of genetic mixing and recombination would naturally form from imperfect replications of such functions. We see horizontal gene transfer in single cell organisms all the time. Even the relationship between viruses and cells fusing genetic material to create infected cells/viral factories is similar to sperm and eggs combining into zygotes.
>The scientific community believed Piltdown Man was a human ancestor for decades before discovering it was a hoax
No they didn't. They called bullshit until the truth came out.
>The entire "fossil record" is unscientific, lining up the remains of different animals is not evidence they evolved into each other
What you're describing is reductionist to the point of falsehood.
>Missing links
Literally every generation of organisms not recorded is a missing link. No shit we can't collect every permutation of life that has ever existed before it goes extinct

>>713856801
>he doesn't think the garden of eden was the spitting image of nurgle's own

>>713856821
Going by your own retarded time scale (based on radiometric dating), the Earth is 4.5 billion years old, and like is 3.5 billion

So no they didn't gave "3 billion years" to formulate, but even if they had 20 billion years it wouldn't matter, the question is can inorganic matter form into DNA, protein, and cell.

You don't even explain how time would help that.

How would time even help that?

Okay add 500 trillion years, how would that help that happen?

>>713856685
Reddit hates anthrochauvinism.

>>713856997
I think it might be kind of like prisoner's dilemma from evolutionary perspective. It might be beneficial if everyone was a Fighter, but if 90 buffalo are "Fighters" and then 10 of them are "Runners" the Runners never get hurt or wounded in any conflict until it eventually becomes the most common behavior.

>>713857237
what are you even talking about

Earth is a unique beauty unlike any other. we've been searching the stars for a long time and still haven't found anything even half as good as where we are now.

>>713856997
Most herd animals don't really think of themselves as part of a group, they're just individuals or mothers with young hanging around a bunch of other individuals. Actual group dynamics require more intelligence than prey animals are capable of.

>>713857189
Mutations cannot add new information, they can only delete or duplicate existing information

In practice, this is always harmful over time, we observe the results of genetic mutation (breeding) and it could never result in animals turning into different kinds even if given 20 trillion years

>>713857307
But that's why mating rituals exist, butting heads and so on.

>>713857124
>le you posted wikipedia!!!
>le 21 miles is akutally long distance if we're talking about endurance
>le hoomin only got lucky when he won le race
>le he is not me lols
Kindly insert your neck in a noose and jump off a building before you procreate by some tragic turn of fate

>>713856997
Sometimes they do, but it's harder for that trait to survive because the fighters are more likely to die or sustain injuries in the attempt than the runners.

>>713856997
Predators learned a long time ago not to fuck with humans. Maybe it's cliche, but we don't forgive or forget. Kill a single one of us, and the next day there are hundreds of us systematically hunting you down and killing anything and everything that might've done it.

>>713857381
False.

>Human beings are naturally suited to life in a polis and do not fully realize their natures until they exercise the role of citizen.
Was Aristotle right?

>>713857381
>Mutations cannot add new information, they can only delete or duplicate existing information
where did you hear this? no, seriously, because i have NEVER heard this outside of people blogposting about how evolution is fake and gay, despite looking into genomics shit for fun a lot
i'm 99% sure you just heard this from a creationist influencer

>>713857385
I don't think those concepts are related at all mating rituals are a way for sexual competition that's not fatal.

>>713857426
Don't know why you're being so rude, it just seemed to me that his point was more that you didn't read the article not that the article itself was faulty. Please don't get so upset at a low stakes discussion like this

>>713857494
It's like the retards who started parroting that Jesus Christ has more written records about them than Julius Caesar. Retarded, wrong, and spammed everywhere at once because one of those tards said it.

>>713857381
>Mutations cannot add new information, they can only delete or duplicate existing information
This is objectively false. Don't project the consequences of your family's continued inbreeding onto every other genetic equation

>>713855889
I think, from the evidence we can see, God likes systems. So in order for us to exist as we do, He made a framework that would allow for us to come to exist within a set of consistent rules (because just magicking us out of nowhere would be lame).

>why would such a benevolent creator create so much suffering
You're (incorrectly) assuming that the physical world is the entirety of existence. It's only one part of the journey of the immortal soul. We can't even comprehend our own part in that. What makes you think we can imagine God's plan for other conscious beings?

Reminder that monkeys in the jungle have entered their stone age, with all that entails.
And that Orcas pass generational knowledge to their offspring, including things like hunting tactics and "never ever fuck with humans".

>>713857490
Athenians are never right

>human vs animal
>remove the human's ability to create nation-states

>>713857539
>that's not fatal.
Most of the time at least.

>seriously replying to evolution deniers
Don't you have anything better to do?

>>713857539
Sure for magpies or whatever, but goats and elephant seals and shit that actually fight for mates are definitely testing the ability to stand their ground.

>>713857579
>Please don't get so upset at a low stakes discussion like this
fuck you faggot this is 4CHAN
how about YOU started GETTING butthurt or fuck off?

>>713857490
Yes. Civilization is an extended phenotype similar to the beaver dam.

>>713857237
Primordial soup

>>713857475
Dont Jaguars, leopards and tigers eat people all the time? I remember a couple years ago hearing a story about a village in India plagued by some big cat.

>>713854735
God made ME in his image. You're one of satan's spawn.

>>713856759
Any examples of good 4chan hfy? Reddit is either AI or the gayest shit imaginable.

>>713857738
>India
>people

>>713856356
You could just continuously walk, following the trail of trampled grass. Even a cheetah would be fucked if you just kept on his trail.

>>713857665
imagine all the insects and leeches that would crawl all over you in that place, not looking to kill or otherwise bite but just wriggle on your body

>>713857297
>anthrochauvinism
Fuckin what?

>>713857759
ENTER WOMAN

>>713857738
Usually in those cases the big cats are either old or intern and incapable of hunting normally, so they become man killers out of necessity

>>713857237
>DNA, protein, and cell.

Literally that was the order in which life came about starting with basic ancient DNA probably from basic particles
>but even if they had 20 billion years it wouldn't matter

Yes it fucking would retard. Thats a cripplingly longtime and given the 3.5 billion thats still a long time for particles to form basic molecules and early dna structures. You also have the added fact the ocean was not the same ocean as today as it was Deuterium hydrogen attached to an oxygen molecule (akak heavy hydrogen) which made shit heavier which would obviously put a lot of fucking pressure on particles at the bottom of the ocean under miles and miles of water mixed with the intense heat and friction causing early structures to bind in a sort of primordial soup

>>713857837
not an impressive metric, cheetahs get fucked by everybody

>>713857738
Sometimes. But where are those creatures doing it? In the brown part of the world. Whites in Europe killed literally every single predator, they don't have bears or wolves or anything else anymore. Jaguars, leopards, tigers, they exist only in brown countries. America has mountain lions as a mercy, we could wipe them out too but we choose not to because otherwise the deer and antelope population gets too large and then they get devastated by disease.

One time I made eye contact with a mountain lion, but we both chose to walk away.

>>713854735
based

>>713857604
>that pod of orcas that helped whalers hunt in exchange for the whale tongue

>>713856997
because humans aren't prey like herd animals. Predator animals sometimes hunt in groups to take down bigger predators like dogs, wolves, lions, etc. "Herd animals" are called as such because they're not a group of predators, which is called a pack

It also just doesn't make sense evolutionarily. Things like bovines or deer would be mroe likely to die if it performed behaviour like splitting from the herd to attack a predator. With their biology they wouldn't do well chasing an agile hunter and probably just single themselves out. Sure, if all the bisons charged at the wolf pack chasing them they'd probably scare them off but for that behaviour to evolve into them the prior example would have to work. And for herbivores, why bother? Herbivores don't seem to evolve offensive aspects (defensive sure) but nothing that's for chasing and killing

>>713854735
Many have been saying this.

>>713855390
What animal has fine motor control on par or exceeding humans?

>>713857680
how underaged are you lmao?
>THIS IS LE FUCKING 4CHAN!!!! I GOT BANNED ON REDDIT AND I CAME HERE TO MAKE IT YOUR PROBLEM!!!
relax buddy

>>713857985
I can't think of a more fitting pairing than christians and /dbs/pics

>>713856939
>implying he'd favor your species over peak performance

>>713857494
>i'm 99% sure you just heard this from a creationist influencer
Notice how he says "it could never result in animals turning into different KINDS"
"Kinds" is a term creationists throw around a lot. They got sick of being shown demonstrable examples of evolution like dogs or variations in birds, so they invented the fictional category of "kinds". They say that animals CAN evolve but they can't go from one "kind" to another. There is no actual definition for what a "kind" is or what stops an animal from escaping its category. It's just a load of bullshit.

>>713858019
>What animal has fine motor control
that completely depends on how you define. If it's purely manipulating objects minutely, there's octopuses. Reflexwise many animals have us beat. Many more animals are more percise than us

>>713857948
Sad thing is that leftoids want to reintroduce wolves and other predators when we should be making them all extinct. Fucking pathetic.

>>713854735
fpbp

>>713858149

That bug in a rug looks snug.

>>713854735
Faithed and breadpilled

>>713858196
Retard

>>713857982
>Herbivores don't seem to evolve offensive aspects (defensive sure) but nothing that's for chasing and killing
nigga you ever seen a moose? they run 35 MPH and attack first, ask questions later. they will 100% chase and kill you and they're reliably more dangerous than bears that could actually eat you. the best defense is a good offense for a lot of larger herbivorous animals.

>>713857910
They only had 1 billion years according to your retarded radiometric dating timeline (Earth 4.5 bil, Life 3.5 bil)

>>713855245
*tips fedora*
did you see that on a tik tok or something

>>713857237
Carbon fits together like Legos. Earth's got a fuck ton of it and had loads of geothermal and solar energy being dumped into putting the pieces together on top of eons of time to try out increasingly more complex permutations of carbon chains.

>>713858196
We should bring them back. Make the wilderness more dangerous, it keeps the cowards in the cities. Ranchers bitch all day about it, "they kill my cattle!" but that's a fine price to pay.

>>713854735
Yup

>>713854735
It's impossible to say these words without sounding like you're 12.

>>713858157
Dogs are the best example there is of the potentials (and degenerative effects) of genetic mutation

Mutate all you want, you might turn a Grey Wolf into a retarded Chihuahua, but you will never turn it into a different kind of animal.

"Kind" is equally as scientific as "species" (Neither are particularly scientific)

>>713858189
>If it's purely manipulating objects minutely, there's octopuses
Can they assemble a pocket watch? How would they create the tools needed to make computers?

>>713858149
>peak performance
truest post ITT

>>713858310
>>713858375
ywnbaw

>>713857237
>bro they only had 1 billion years to form not 3

>WOOOOOOOOOOW IT TOOK 7 OF YOU TO KILL ME

>>713858326
I've encountered moose a few times. From what I can tell, they'll leave you alone as long as you leave them alone. Don't show any interest or attention towards them whatsoever, and you can walk right by them. Take a look or even a sniff at em and yeah, then there's trouble.

>>713858479
>>713858149

>>713855565
It's called a Palanquin you fucking idiot.

>>713858469
could you assemble a pocket watch without tools made for your hands? I ask this because I wonder if we made octopus tools, what could they do with them if they had the brains to use them

>>713857981
Orcas have been known to help human fishermen since the times of the Roman Empire. They have a very clear understanding that humans are the apex lifeform on land, and that both sides win by cooperating.

>>713857595
>It's only one part of the journey of the immortal soul
Source?

>>713858052
I think he was just trolling you getting more obvious with each reply to see when you would realize and stop replying. Anons do that now and then, especially when they are starting to lose a genuine discussion.

>>713858546
you can't fool me you canadian son of a bitch!

>>713854735
if we're all made in god's image, and we have men and women, does that make god a futanari?

>>713858542
>gets beaten by literally puny ants
name a bigger goober

>>713854769
Well we call ourselves wise homos

>>713858630
I'm American, dumbass. Canadians are just Americans who wish they were French and American at the same time

>evolutionfags vs creationfags vs persistence hunting autists (pro and against) vs return to caveman retards vs HFY vs aliens schizos vs redditfags vs /pol/tards

This has to be the most cancerous thread /v/ has ever seen.

>>713857604
Homosapiens appeared around 300k years ago and were stuck in the stone age for 99% of that time. In fact many groups of homosapiens never progressed past the stone age without assistance. People like to pretend those cultures are subhumans, but the stone age is basically our natural state. Getting past it doesn't happen easily.
Of course there were other hominids that predate us. The earliest we know about were something like 3-4 million years ago.

>>713858650
actual food 4 thought

>>713854735
>god is an ape
How convinient for apes

>>713854735
Fippity bippity

>>713858532
We've only lived on this planet for 6,000 years. That's when God created the heavens and the Earth. We were created in His image and that's why we can build and create and think while other animals act on pure instinct. The animals are 1, we're 5, Satan is 6, God is 7.

>>713858582
>could you assemble a pocket watch without tools made for your hands
No but I could make most of the tools
>if we made octopus tools, what could they do with them if they had the brains to use them
I'd rather you show me how minutely they can manipulate things or show me how they could manufacture the tools required to make the complex inventions that allow humans to effortlessly rule the planet

>>713858630
I'm Canadian and I have never seen a moose. I feel robbed.

>>713858740

What about dinosaurs?

>>713858329
Were talking about going from primoridial soup non-organic life to when full eukaryote cells formed with a mitchochondria and nucleaus which took 3.5 billion years because that is what you put forth when you were asking how could inorganic life form DNA, protein, and cells retard

>>713858740
No.

>>713858703
There is no recorded history before third-millennium BC.

Everything before recorded history is radiometric dating, which is pseudoscience, rocks of known age give incorrect dates by 100,000+ years.

That's the ONLY evidence of old Earth

Evidence of young Earth:

1. Very Little Sediment on the Seafloor
2. Bent Rock Layers
3. Soft Tissue in Fossils
4. Faint Sun Paradox
5. Rapidly Decaying Magnetic Field
6. Helium in Radioactive Rocks
7. Carbon-14 in Fossils, Coal, and Diamonds
8. Short-Lived Comets
9. Very Little Salt in the Sea
10. DNA in “Ancient” Bacteria

https://answersingenesis.org/evidence-for-creation/10-best-evidences-young-earth/

Soft tissue is found in dinosaur fossils, this couldn't be preserved ~60 million years.

Carbon-14 is found in diamonds supposedly billions of years old, but carbon-14 couldn't last longer than a few hundred thousand years at most.

If seawater originally contained no sodium, and the sodium accumulated at today’s rates, then today’s ocean saltiness would be reached in only 42 million years, only about 1/70 the three billion years evolutionists propose. After 3 billion years, we would expect to see 70x more salt in the ocean than we see today.

Going by the current models of the sun's nuclear fusion, the Earth would have been below freezing 3.5 billion years ago, when life supposedly evolved. (faint sun paradox)

The earth’s magnetic field is wearing down so quickly that it could be no more than 20,000 years old.

We observe 19 billion tons of sediment deposited into the oceans each year, the average thickness of sediment on the ocean floor being 1300 feet. At this rate, 1,300 feet of sediment would accumulate in less than 12 million years, not billions of years.

In many mountainous areas, rock layers thousands of feet thick have been bent and folded without fracturing. This couldn't happen if they were laid down separately over hundreds of millions of years and already hardened, they'd fracture.

>>713858740
>We've only lived on this planet for 6,000 years
you stupid bitch

the official narrative is that civilization is only 10k years old but we've found ruins and carbon dated them to 15k years, no doubt we've been here and getting shit done longer than that

>>713858469
>Can they assemble a pocket watch? How would they create the tools needed to make computers?
>he's never seen the coral and kelp Hand mechs the octopi made so they could use their clumsy tentacles to push and pull levers that manipulate dextrous fingers

And that is why you're ill-prepared and are gonna get fucken wrecked during the holocoast, when they rise out of the deeps and kill you all.

>>713858650
Well the perfect being, Rebis, in alchemy is supposed to be a hermaphrodite

>>713858695
could be worse

>>713858565
Fucking hell

>>713858809
Dogshit """evidence""".

>>713858771
Literally buried by Lucifer and the British to lead the faithful astray

>>713855339
Are you retarded? We orginally hunted by running shit to death. The only land animals capable of beating humans in long distance races are dogs

>I don't understand how this thing works
>I'm going to pretend to be a retard so people on 4chan actually explain it without trolling
It's fascinating that this rule has stayed consistent for over 10 years. The only way to have an intellectual discussion is for someone to be hopelessly stupid and wrong.
NTA btw I'm just lurking and have learned more about early life than school taught me.

>>713855204
We were in the Garden of Eden until Eve fucked up

I'm watching 2001 Space Odyssey right now

>>713856997
Some do, but some simply lack the instincts or intelligence to do it effectively. You wouldn't fuck with a herd of elephants

>>713857189
Mutations cannot add new information, they can only delete or duplicate existing information

In practice, this is always harmful over time, we observe the results of genetic mutation (breeding) and it could never result in animals turning into different kinds even if given 20 trillion years

>>713857910
They only had 1 billion years according to your retarded radiometric dating timeline (Earth 4.5 bil, Life 3.5 bil)

>>713858467
Who says chihuahuas aren’t a different kind of animal from a gray wolf? Your headcanon?

>>713858816
>>713858943

You can take a rock from a 1980 volcano eruption that is supposed to date to 1980, and Potassium-Argon dating gives erroneous dates of 100,000+ years.

Radiometric dating is FALSE and it's the ONLY evidence of old Earth.

Pic related, fossilized trees inside rock layers SUPPOSED to be millions of years old

This couldn't have happened unless they're not millions of years old but were rapidly deposited by something like a flood

We find many animals fossilized through different layers like this

>>713858695
the epitome of human expression

>>713858695
Godfags can never win because in the history of all of these kind of threads they have never presented a real argument. It's just fairy tales.

>>713858695
i mean, we all just wanna know what's the whole fucking point, right?

>>713855889
Easy on the Islamaphobia and Anti Semitism there Anon.

>>713858958
You didn't run shit to death, you bled it to death there's a huge fucking difference you sped

>>713859070
there was a massive flood that was talked about and remembered by literally every single group of people on the planet. What caused it, maybe a meteor hit the ocean or just passed nearby and pulled up high tides, dunno. What I do know is that you're a dumb bitch

>>713856024
That's not true. There were splints used centuries before the dark ages by romans and greeks

>>713857475

Dont wasps and hornets have memory like that? If you fuck with their hive and come back a week later they will sting the fuck out of you?

If octopuses didn't have short lifespans would they have evolved into sapient humanoids?

First off

Lets give a round of applause to the chad humans who survived living against massive predators. At any point while we slept or even on a walk outside we could have been mauled by bears, cougars, lions, wolves, hippos, crocs, alligators, ten thousand different poisonous snakes, etc.
They really survived with some sticks and stones.

Ty stone niggas

>>713858828
>he's never seen the coral and kelp Hand mechs the octopi made
No one has because they don't exist, otherwise we'd be subjugated right now instead of them getting eaten by the chinese/japanese

>>713856980
>It takes about 9 minutes to walk a single mile, at a leisurely pace
You're a fucking idiot, a nine minute mile is average for a runner, you're not walking that and sure as shit not at a "leisurely pace". I doubt you've ever walked more than thirty feet in a row in your entire life.

Uuum... guys... videogames????????

>>713856460
Believing science and religion are diametrically opposed to each other is a very reddit thing to do.

>>713858329
>>713859052
>post the same false information twice

>>713859284
And more importantly, would we have fucked them?

>"humans are so good at running you guys, nothing can escape us"
>ok why does this dear you caught up to have a giant stick sticking out of its side
>"w-well we beat the animals within an inch of their lives before giving chase, but we caught them in the end right? humanity stamina FTW!"

>>713859267
They do. So do some birds. But none of them are as effective as we are.

>>713858809
>We observe 19 billion tons of sediment deposited into the oceans each year, the average thickness of sediment on the ocean floor being 1300 feet. At this rate, 1,300 feet of sediment would accumulate in less than 12 million years, not billions of years.
Gee maybe it's because the tectonic movement of the plates recycles the ocean floor over millions of years.

>>713859343
fuck you

>>713859284
Why would they become humanoid? That wouldn't benefit them underwater at all. First they would need to adapt to land dwelling which is unlikely considering their biology.

>>713859343
what was this guy's name again?

>>713859338
What? A good runner does a mile in about 5 or 6 minutes. You can walk a mile in about 9 or 10 minutes. When's the last time you walked any considerable distance, faggot?

>>713859372
look man, a pack of feral hungry humans in those old ages could chase down a deer via stamina check, even if they didn't have spears and shit

Do you think even in their wildest dreams could humans even 500 years ago imagined what life is like today

>>713859372
not scrolling up to follow the argument ITT but humans race horses every year and it's usually pretty close. also "dear" is spelled D-E-E-R.

>>713859472
Humans didn't exist 500 years ago. History is fake.

Also for all the Earthers or Dirters as I call them.

You, and every species on your dirt ball is a mix of accidential engineered and biogenesis.

Your planet was our shithole, we took a shit, and cummed into your shit water planet, and we didn't know that biogenesis material was presented.

You are all literally, walking piles of cum and shit, that lived in a sewer.

You're welcome, now fuck off with your signals, we aren't interested in speaking with you.

>>713858467
Species has a specific definition. Animals that can interbreed and produce viable fertile offspring are the same species. There's a little gray area with weird edge cases, but that's life for you. Categories are never perfect.
"Kinds" have no definition at all. It's just a rhetorical ploy to attack evolution.
For example, why are a grey wolf and a chihuahua the same "kind"? Because they're much more different from each other than these two animals which look similar, but are different species.

>>713859416
Imagine picrel swinging from tree to tree. I don't know why but it scares the hell out of me.

>>713859559
Dont worry its probably in constant pain from all the splinters it would get

>>713854735
TRVKE

>>713859537
>For example, why are a grey wolf and a chihuahua the same "kind"?

According to Basedence, the Grey Wolf and Chihuahua are both the same species, Canis Lupis

Domestic dogs are a sub-species and sub-species are still the same species.

>>713859472
Not a chance, but I bet they'd have a good laugh about it

>>713857475
>>713859267
iirc we're just not worthwhile to fuck with in general. we're weirdly aggressive for our size (most big mammals are fairly passive to conserve energy), don't give up fights easily, are good at wounding even in a hopeless fight, and don't give a whole lot in the way of nutrition. we're not an easy or good meal for most animals

something like a polar bear will absolutely hunt and eat you for food, though, due to the relative scarcity of options they have

>>713858467
Given enough time without interbreeding, they're genetic information will drift apart to the point of being incapable of (or at the very least highly unlikely) producing a creature that will survive birth.
>but you will never turn it into a different kind of animal
Something like polymelia can result in animals with more limbs than they typically have. If it's benign or functional enough to not kill the creature before it procreates, it can result in its own divergent path in the genetic pool.

>>713857381
Completely false. Where did you get your opinions, off of Facebook?

>>713859585
Jokes on you. It evolved thick skin and bristles.

>>713856024
Fossil record shows they knew how to amputate when needed and use splints since pre-agricultural era

>>713859607
as far as I know, polar bears are one of the only animals that actively hunt humans. probably because we haven't been around them long enough to teach them better.

>>713858479

>AND HE GOES FOR THE STONE COLD STUNNER

>UNFREAKINGBELIEVABLE

>>713859662
It wouldnt move as smoothly as regular octopuses then.

>>713859585
>the tree swinging hyperintelligent octopus is constantly pissed off
And that's supposed to make anon feel better?

>>713859701
That makes it even scarier

>>713859536
shut up ayy or i'll rape you

>>713859536
wow that's depressing, thanks for that

>>713856024
>Dark ages
People have healed from broken bones since the Roman age. It's not a death sentence like cancer or tuberculosis.

Source : "Maintaining mobility after fracture: A biomechanical analysis of fracture consequences at the Roman Sites of Ancaster (UK) and Vagnari (Italy)"

>>713857381
what

>>713857845
Imagine all the worms and ants crawling on your penis haha but it would be totally innocent and playful not sexual at all haha

>>713856024

>>713858680

And I say later homo

>>713859284
>evolved
Sorry anon you fell for a jew psyop.

>>713858695
I'm just trying to understand what the fuck HFY stands for based on context alone.
I could google it, but I learned my lesson about googling acronyms I learned about on 4chan.

>>713859896
humanity fuck yeah, its a reddit favorite

>>713857381
>Mutations cannot add new information, they can only delete or duplicate existing information

>>713859896
>look up HFY
>its a reddit cringe thing
uh why is reddit here guys

>>713859896
It stands for Humanity fuck yeah!

and is a general expression of human supremacy.

If you had the chance to travel to the future and live for one day before being sent back. How far would you go? Assume you couldnt take any info back for any type of gain (Cant tell anyone what you saw either you keep the secret to your grave) and you wont die if nothing is there at the time you go.
How far do you go. Or do you even go at all

>>713854614 (OP)
>Throws rock
>Not to actually hurt the animal but annoy it and spook it into running away
>Only to have that ape throw another rock
>Which spooks it into running away again
>Until another rock
>And running away

>Its tired
>Rocks keep getting thrown

>>713859874
By this logic Crocodiles don't exist.

>>713859989
going to year 3000, like fry

>>713859896
i'll spoonfeed you just this once young newfag

>"humanity fuck yeah"
loose term for a genre of sci fi where humans are uniquely strong due to some aspect of our biology and/or psychology as compared to theoretical alien races. usually it's that we're more violent or innovative. the term itself comes from old /tg/ worldbuilding exercises and fan fiction, where it was used unironically by people who enjoyed the idea.

>>713859284
Sample size of one, but most anthropologists think that underwater would be a very terrible place to find intelligent species with technology more advanced than rocks. For one you can't light a fire.

>>713859962
>>713859975
imagine thinking that loving being human is only for redditors

your ancestors would be ashamed of you.

>>713854614 (OP)
Control over fire and cooking meat to be able to absorb more protein and develop the brain more was the game changer. Most primates know how to throw a rock.

>>713860015
Hurting the animal also helps. Give the gazelle a few bruises and he'll tire quicker.

>>713857738
>Dont Jaguars, leopards and tigers eat people all the time? I remember a couple years ago hearing a story about a village in India plagued by some big cat.
Yeah, in India, those aren't people. Google "champawat tiger". Tl:Dr a single tiger managed to kill 436 pajeet and they require a white man, singular, to save them. They have always been a cattle humanoid since forever.

>>713856356
this dude hunting sonic the hedgehog

>>713854735
God doesn't exist [/yet]

>>713855134
On the rocks

>>713859559
i would kill every single fucking squirrel on the planet if it meant i'd have tree octopi instead
>walking through woods
>see one in tree looking down at me
>wave at it
>it waves back

>>713859896
Along with what everyone else said, it rose out of people being annoyed of sci-fi tropes where humans are shown as being the indians of the universe, stupid stinky apes that only have numbers over their alien betters. So HFY flips that on its head in some way.

>>713854735
> bipeds
> the image of god
Enjoy your back problems fag, lmao

>>713860028
In the year three thouuuusaaaaaaaannnnnnd

>>713860031
>knows all the reddit lore
go back faggot
>>713860051
you too go back and fuck humans

>>713860125
>eggman makes robots out of entire species of prey
>only rogue agent is an inexhausitble hedgehog
woah, deepest lore

>>713858196
They help culling the hog population.

>>713860160
no fuck YOU alien cunt

go probe a cow ugly

>>713860160
>fuck humans
hahahaha

do something bitch.

>>713859989
I think I'd go for a few million years later or something. If humanity survived, I'll see insane shit. If humanity died out, it must have been in the 21th century anyway so no reason to go to anything close.

>>713859559
>he doesn't know about the pacific northwest tree octopus

>>713860051
I can't love being human any more then I can love breathing air, having and 20 Hz to 20 kHz hearing range or being a carbon-based lifeform. I don't know any alternatives to it. If being magically transformed into a space squid would give me more advantages I'd become a squid on a heartbeat.

>>713860245
Yes you can. You take too many things for granted. It's good to be what we are. Take a deep breath and imagine life as anything else. We have it the best because we made it the best. It's not perfect, not yet, but we'll get there.

>>713860364
this, we have so much stimuli, we have to become numb to it or become insane or some shit
we're blessed as fuck, bros. nobody tops humans on dis earth

>>713855390
>he thinks humanity would still be functional if dog girls and bara gorillas was a thing.

Nigga mankind would fuck themselves out of existence.

>>713860245
It's a reddit thing because they are obsessed with the phrase "my faith in humanity". It's just another way to increase their cuck power.

>>713855415
Saluki are the fastest land animal for long distance. Snow dogs go that distance while pulling sleds. Proghorns caribou and reindeer also go long distance. Camels and ostriches could also go that long if needed. Dogs are the fastest distance predators but we are a close second

>>713854735
Yup

>>713860364
>take a deep breath and imagine life as anything else
it sounds good actually. being a bird or bat to fly. being a colony animal to experience a level of connection with my fellows humans can only dream of. being an orca to swim in the ocean. being a penguin in Antartica. a species evolved to sapience from one of these circumstances or something even wilder could exist, and that experience wouldn't be necessarily worse off then a human. it might be way better.

>>713860506
Wouldn't that mean that we're inseminating our way into future generations?

>>713854735
>us
>his image

>>713860610
You're imagine only the good parts of their lives, though. Not the cold and hard parts of it.

>>713860649
god wakes up feeling ugly sometimes, what can i say

>>713854614 (OP)
I wanna see you go to africa and take on all the wildlife there with just a rock.

>>713860364
>>713860437
>BROS WE ARE LIKE HUMANS AND WE LIKE LIVE IN A SOCIETY HOLY HECK YEAH WE DID IT FAITH IN HUMANITY RESTORED

>>713860718
Humans don't fight fair though. 10 of us could kill them with a rock, 100 of us could extinct them with pointy sticks.

>>713860740
This you, anon?

>>713860662
and our lives have cold and hard parts as well, our bodies have numerous flaws, our psyches were shaped by evolution into innumerable self-destructive, poisonous behaviours. there is nothing intrinsically superior or holy about the configuration of genetics that is humanity. another planet might very well have spat out something that outclasses us by a mile.

>>713860740
don't post slop reaction images at me, i don't read spam

>>713860101
People don't give the stone age enough credit. Humans were the fucking masters of the stone age. We didn't just pick things up and throw them. We mastered fire, weaved clothes, fired pottery, and crafted specialized tools. We didn't stop at throwing rocks. We invented a sling and developed techniques to throw rocks even harder. They had the same large brains we have today.

>>713860160
only jews hate humans

>>713860810
you're speaking in terms of possibilities. in terms of what there actually is, that we know of, there's nothing better to be than what we already are.

>>713860796
Is this you?

>>713860853
Because they're neanderthals?

>>713854735
God has a tailbone and bad knees?

>>713856903
sent ;)

>>713856169
If you cant beat them join them. Dogs lucked out by rolling a good charisma

>>713854898
CHANGE BAD
YOU GO TOO FAR
YOU AM PLAY GODS

>I-IS THAT A FUCKING STICK WITH A ROCK ON IT????? AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>713860796
>niggas see this and go "humanity fuck yeah!!!!!"
Kill all humans

I would like to thank all our ancestors for how far we've come.

>>713860810
>our psyches were shaped by evolution into innumerable self-destructive, poisonous behaviours
This is perhaps our biggest flaw. We're still stuck in the mindset of tribalism because that's how we evolved.
Humans are practically incapable of not being at constant war with each other.

>>713859070
>Due to the long half-life of 40
K, the technique is most applicable for dating minerals and rocks over 100,000 years old. For shorter timescales, it is unlikely that enough 40
Ar will have had time to accumulate to be accurately measurable.

>Use a measurement method intended to measure really old rocks on a really young rock
>it doesn’t give accurate measurements
>WOOOOOW BUGGED DATING MECHANICS DUDE. NOTHING I COULD DO

Christcuck spammers are worse than SJW troons.

>>713860903
what is this

>>713855134
Rock band

>>713861056
Average hfy fans

>>713855339
We are actually the kings of endurance and dexterity. Lack of speed is meaningless when you can last 10 times longer than anything else. Lack of strength is meaningless when you can pick up and accurately throw projectiles.

>>713856552
Bears, wolves and lynxes still exist in Europe, tardo. But yes, obviously we could wipe them out if we wanted to.

>>713860903
I'm the second to last xir absolutely demolishing that punching bag with my sick moves

>>713854735
B A S E D
A S E D
S E D
E D
D

>>713860992
>humanity is so powerful and successful that we can allow such specimens to live pleasant lives
>somehow this is a bad thing
No faggot. The very existence of such people is just more proof of how good we are. They'd be dead a long time ago if they were born as anything else.

>>713855840
>Every part of this is useless or harmful and would remain so for countless millions of generations, never having any reason to be selected for at best, until all of the different parts were completed... randomly.
Wrong. All of the parts were selected because of unknown advantages in the past. We are looking at the current extant specimens that are the result of millions of years of evolution but the animals that first developed those toxic chemicals were very different and how they used them were different.

THROW ROCK GOOD YES
BUT WHAT ABOUT WRITE ON ROCK
KEEP TRACK OF BERRY SUPPLY

All we need are a group if mado scientistsu to make picrelated and you will all suffer.

>>713861269
>gashunk gashunk

>reddit makes atheism uncool
>schizophrenic creationists now feel empowered to shill their pyramid scheme cult in online spaces
Grim

>>713861269
I could kill that thing by myself

>>713861206
you am play gods

>>713856068
There's some nerve that takes a completely retarded redundant path through the body because it predates the heart or something, it's also found on giraffes and longneck dinos.

>>713854735
A first post that's actually the best post in the thread?
On my /v/?

>>713861336
>implying atheism was ever cool and not cringe rebellious teen thing
shiggy diggy

>>713861336
>>reddit makes atheism uncool
This psyop still hasn't worked, christcucks. Back to facebook with ye.

>>713861380
WHAT HAVE WE DONE
NOOOOOOOOOO

>>713861390
Do you know why people wear wedding rings on that finger? Because there's a vein in there that goes all the way to the heart.

>>713861056
uprising training ground

>>713860649
abbos are literally a subspecies of human, like Homo Erectus. they're essentially shaved apes.

>>713861447
heh

>>713861447
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>713859267
Apparently bees will try and you can see them staring at you, trying to commit you to memory, but it doesn't stick

When the animals figure out air traffic control y'allst are fucketh

>>713858591
>since the times of the Roman Empire
big if true, do you have a link or something to back that claim

>>713861478
>>713861524
>there have been recordkeeping bricks that have been dated to be older than all other forms of writing
we've had excel longer than we've had stories.

>>713861542
i can't even tell bees from wasps, i already lost the great human-animal war

>>713861447
>Oracle

>>713861473
This. No one can convince me that it's not true

>>713859210
I'm pretty sure people just mythologized floods because floods are damn scary.

>>713857475
I know Orcas are like that. They're one of the smartest (and cruelest) animals and will rip apart all kinds of creatures, but leave humans alone

Not a day goes by without me wondering why we didn't domesticate these fuckers.

>>713854614 (OP)
>a fucking rock

>>713855889
>why would such a benevolent creator create so much suffering?
>If god real then why bad thing happen.
So much pseudo intellectual drivel just to say the most limp dick argument against divinity

>>713856356
it's just a meme that fags brought into

>>713861437
what exactly do you athiests expect to accomplish? What society do you think comes about when you remove Christianity (notice the lack of any other religion)? We've already seen what state athiesm has led to and one example collapsed in 1991, the others turned to civil war, another was invaded by a comrade, and the other became obsessed with whatever pagan faith it held to prior winning of their civil war.

>>713855134

>>713861694
What for? To hunt rats?

>>713861694
for pest control we already have cats
for badass aura farming with controlled birds, falconry has been practiced for a thousand years and we still haven't seen domestication rather than taming

>>713861768
>tails begging for cock
based

>>713854735
After reading Theogeny, I feel that God could have made things better for us but didn’t.

>dinosaurs ain't real bruh

>>713854735
fpbp
plebbitor atheists malding

>>713855763
The most primal cells are glorified soap bubbles. Once you have fat that pools together into membranes you have the car, now you only need something that can be both its own car engine and driver, and RNA fills both those roles. It's not good at either, but it just needs to get things going and then everything else happens because order is born from chaos.

>>713859210
Human and human like things have had their settlements right next to rivers since the dawn of monkey men. Floods were a yearly disaster and the really big ones could wipe out entire populations.

It's no wonder there are flood stories from every corner of the planet, they are all talking about different floods.

>>713861740
Yeah, a benevolent creator can just be dismissed outright. It's more realistic they're either apathetic to our plight, can't perceive us at our scale, or is simply non-existent.

>>713861762
I want to remove religion because it fucking sucks. evangelical nonsense has fucking ruined this country and made us give trillions of dollars to some middle east jews because of some nonsense about the rapture.

>>713861694
Dogs were easy to domesticate, they were already pack animals. Herd animals were similarly easy. Things like owls though, they're independent animals. It would take a lot more to bond them to us in any permanent way.

>>713861891
but anon
the average normalfag is too retarded to understand basic ethics without threat of an omnipotent being staring at them
you NEED religion to control the masses

>>713861694
there are certainly legends about this fucking animal. this piece of shit.

I fucking hate seagulls

>>713861694
Wolves specced into the same build grug did.

>>713861694
Cats were better.

>>713859861
>non white
Nope, this is a hoax or probably mistakes by the researchers.
Only whites had civilization 30000 years ago. The others are monkeys.

>>713861865
government drone

>>713862027
One time a seagull tried to steal my sandwich, but it was too heavy. So the only thing that faggot bird accomplished was grabbing my sandwich and then throwing it into the sand, wasted completely. That faggot.

>>713855134
Halo CE. The entire game uses ONE rock for every rock, just scaled and rotated differently. True rocksmanship right there.

>>713859343
I honestly miss old /b/ sometimes before all the boards segregated into their own thing. You could hop on and genuinely learn so many new things about fields you wouldn't even have an interest in. I could go from a camping thread to a minmaxing office stationary thread to a videogame thread to a zettai ryouki thread to a yugioh meta thread to a cosplay thread to a copypasta thread in the span of a few hours. Of course there was always porn but you just experienced random things all the time.

>>713854735
Based. However most live on autopilot similar to animals so it's easy to say people are animals due to this sad fact

>>713861865
Naked emus really look like dinosaurs
facebook /reel/3730888063870069

>>713859852
If it was guaranteed that they wouldn't bite you...would you do it?

>>713861974
They don't understand ethics with it.

>>713862207
I could deal with it...but why?

>>713862027

>>713861889
An answer I've heard a lot is that god has some 10 bajillion IQ plan that none of us can comprehend and bad things happening is just a part of that. I guess it makes it easier to cope

>>713862184
Why is it naked, Anon?

>>713862301
I don't understand why a god who created the universe would bother with this sort of confusing subterfuge, desu

But what if scientists completely lied about history? There's no one alive who's older than 116 so we wouldn't know

How do we help them ascend to higher lifespans and intelligence?

>>713855134
Zork. There is no graphical system created that can match the human imagination.

>>713862301
maybe bad things happen on purpose sometimes

here's a shaved bear

Checkmate atheists.

>>713862105
I've been attacked by them for no reason twice. They get territorial around their nests. Though they just swooped towards me and didn't actually try to peck my eyes out, thankfully.

>rock thread
>look inside
>animals

>>713856997
>why dont herd animals just attack their predators
Because that would be antisemitic

>game introduces new meta that was buried for no good reason

>>713861762
>what exactly do you athiests expect to accomplish?

Correctly passing English in primary school for one, unlike you.

>>713856356
most animals have panoramic vision while humans have a more focused narrowed vision, which is why animals can spot a lion lurking in the grass because they have r_fov 220 while humans can see smaller details with their small r_fov 60 so if a animal runs ahead of you you can just follow the trail left behind by it with you super tunnel vision.

>>713862372
Probably just a genetic mutation. Like how some cats are hairless. All sorts of strange shit out there.

>>713862207
>we are expected to believe animals are real
this nigga ain't real

>>713862523
>primary school
>English
It's called kindergarten you fucking foreigner

>>713859989
Show me like 2080. Let me see what's in store for the life I'll live.
>It's an apocalyptic wasteland
>I'm filled with an absolute sense of dread and despair
>I have to spend that day trying to find some history textbooks or signs of technology to find out when it happened
Obviously I wouldn't be able to prevent anything, but just to know, though such knowledge would surely drive me insane.
Or maybe everything's fine and I can silently laugh at doomposters when I get back

>>713862105
Maybe your sandwich shouldn't be so heavy, fatty

>>713861597
No need for links
Everyone knows Roman Empire was the origin of any civilization and accomplishments

>>713862425
Genetic modification of course. Maybe in 120 years or so

>>713862602
no it's not

>>713862647
I'm not fat. I was just enjoying a large sandwich and some margaritas during a vacation near the ocean. Fuck seagulls. It was the only time I've ever encountered them, and it was more than enough for me to understand why people hate those bastards so much.

Crazy to think nature was conquered thousands of years ago, and ever since then our best and brightest have been busy finding new ways to kill other humans

>billions of years of big bang and evolution and earth magic led to you being an incel wasting his life on a chinese forum
grim

>>713862519
This reminds me of an artwork

>>713862105
you were born with dominion over sandwiches, and born with domination over indoor places. maybe try not eating your sandwich outdoors next time, homo-picnic-faggot

>>713862750
We're in the process of eradicating mosquitoes right now. But I have mixed feelings about it. I hate those fucking things, however, they're a big source of food for some birds and bats.

>humans conquered the planet
>and then went ahead and made this

>>713862750
Really crazy that organized groups of people with language and ingenuity managed to beat automatons who can't do anything but hide and then go for the throat.

>>713862804
I have yet to hear a good reason for why we don't do this.

>>713862783
>jewish lies
None of that happened so I'm safe.

>>713862581
Are you telling me this is AI generated? On the second watch I think that could actually be the case.

>>713854735
>when you go for pole position in the opening salvo

>>713856471
Just look at the aboriginals.

>>713854769
*homo erectus

I saw a fox twice. Pretty cool.

>>713862301
There's a story in the bible where God ruins a devout believer's life just to win a bet with Satan.
I don't know how anyone can think God is benevolent after that.
I mean at least when he tried to exterminate all of humanity he had the excuse that they were all evil. And fair's fair, we definitely are.
Although for some reason the animal kingdom always shares our fate when God punishes us.

>>713862915
Severe inefficiency.

>>713854614 (OP)
here

>>713855763
Humanity was actually created when Quetzalcoatl gathered the bones of the peoples of the Fourth Sun from Mictlan, ground them into powder, and shed us blood upon the powder thoughbeit

>>713862301
Evil kills the loving God or at the very least makes him powerless to stop it. The old religions that had many good and evil Gods fighting it out was actually a far more elegant explanation for the world we see instead of this fake loving modern God.

>>713862425
I guess breed them in captivity for intelligence and lifespan and see what happens.

>>713862994
No I'm saying animals are fake and gay. This is the matrix.

>>713856552
HFY is autistic masturbation over achievements of other people. It's not uplifting because it's so base and tactless

Conquer this, animal kingdom.

>>713862460
you were saying

>>713861473
Even if true, they were still made by God and designed that way on purpose, and presumably have dominion over animals like the rest of us.

>>713863057
One time I stepped on a skunk while running through the forest. I jumped over a log and on the other side, landed on something soft, so I pulled my feet up and hit the ground kinda hard. Luckily it was all leaves and sticks, so fairly soft. On the ground I looked and saw the skunk, and it was looking at me. We looked at each other for a few seconds, then it walked away.

>>713862396
>I don't understand
That's the essential part of it. You don't understand, but god does. People need to be able to make sense of their reality and find some kind of meaning in life, and religion provides that so a person doesn't need to rack their brains for an answer of their own

>>713861863
I gotta admit, having a self cleaning horse anus would be pretty sweet.

>>713863190
We ARE them, nihilist faggot. We're the ones who did it.

>>713862915
What is this even called?

>>713862519
>>713862915
I'm not sure what I'm looking at. Just massive shared terrace areas for apartments or something?

>>713855339
>humans don't have endurance for shit even proportionally
nigga we are literally better than wolves when it comes to run down prey

>>713854735
holy based

>>713856443
Humans arent actually the reason why the mammoths went extinct. There were millions of them, and very few humans at the time. Their disappearance was caused by environmental change.

>>713861450
huh don't all veins go to the heart?

>>713863458
Each one is a single family home

It's the worst part of single family housing, taking up lots of space- combined with the worst part of apartment living - sharing walls with the neighbors

>>713862301
On a certain level it makes sense, since an omnipotent, omniscient being with unfathomable power would operate on a level that us meat beings are incapable of comprehending. My problem with it is that we're also supposed to feel a connection with God, and feel him working through us, and feel his love for us, etcetera - that doesn't jive. You can't really have it both ways. Either God is an eldritch, incomprehensible being or a more-or-less comprehensible Sky Daddy who takes a personal interest in everyone's individual lives. Can't be both.

>>713863178

>>713863458
It's a whole house but stacked as an apartment so it saves space and you get your own community building. Think of how uniform and boring apartments are and think of the personality and flavor you get out of these? Want to visit your friend and BBQ or play catch in their front yard? Don't even have to leave the building.

>>713858358
>Grug say other tribe bad and other tribe act like you do
>You not want look like other tribe do you?
You are quite literally proving his point.

>>713863203

>>713863602
yeah, that's the joke. some people never pick up on that though, and that's what makes it funny

>>713863612
>>713863662
only a chinese brain can come up with something like this

>humans hunt and eat meat more than any other apes
>also wave less sharp teeth and weaker jaws than any other ape
can someone explain?

>>713863657
WAKE UP NIGGA NONE OF IT IS REAL

>>713863662
>Want to visit your friend and BBQ or play catch in their front yard?
What? No. I want to be alone in my house and blast porn at 85+ decibels while I loudly beat my cock. What you are describing is like living with your parents except even worse.

>>713863776
oh lol, i was trying to connect it with the nerve's path

>>713863843
cooking and tool use

>>713854735
Christpilled

>>713863843
teamwork

some retards love to talk about how many animals could kill us, 1v1. They're usually wrong but that's not the point, because we don't fight 1v1. Even the most hardcore creature that ever walked the Earth could be brought down by 10 of us with sharpened sticks and throwing rocks

>>713863843
human cook meat, make meat easier to chew and digest, save energy for thinking with big brain

monkey have strong jaw to rip penis clean off of body and eat raw, take much energy to digest, monkey must eat many fleshy bits, does not have time for think

>>713863843
we found ways to make that not matter, so the weak jaws didn't get outbred

>>713863843
We can make tools and cook our meat to make it easier to chew.
Same reason we don't have fur. We can steal fur from animals so we don't need it.

>>713854735
Who ever heard of the Truth losing in open contest?

>billions of years of evolution
>end up in a desert with thousands of others to....burn down a wooden temple at the end of a week

Are humans too dumb, fat, and lazy to survive the wilderness now?

>>713856024
You've been taught wrong. People have always helped each other, even in prehistoric times.

>>713862426
>aphasia bros...

>>713827814
>>713828380
>>713829041

>>713863991
man it would be freaky if there was another species that wore its prey's pelt

>>713864058
lmao no. some, sure, but we'd be alright

>>713863639
>Can't be both
The logical inconsistencies with the concept of god are easily filled by faith and not thinking about it too hard

>>713864032
and its based

>>713854735
atheist bros... our response?

>>713855565
Because we don't like to carry heavy shit or waste energy.

Are you actually this dumb?

>>713864032
OMG THE MASS EFFECT MAP IS REAL

>>713864126
>>713863991
imagine hunting down a creature because a man didn't come back from gathering flax or something

and then you find a wolf covered in the skin of a bear. that would be pretty spooky haha

good thing that we're the only ones who do crazy shit like that, wearing the skins of dead creatures

>>713854735
chad creationist dabbing on evolutioncucks

>>713856356
We evolved to stand upright to overcome tall grass. We also are smart so that we can figure out what way animals went while we were chasing them, even if they temporarily outrun us.

>>713864032
It's insane to me that we make a temporary city every year to do this.

>>713855878
>The event started in 1980,when local landlord Gordon Green overheard a discussion between two men in his pub, the Neuadd Arms.
>One man suggested that over a significant distance across country, man was equal to any horse.
>Green decided that the challenge should be tested in full public view, and organised the first event.

>>713864058
Pretty much. We've lost the skills to survive in that sort of environment.
We could reacquire them, but most would die before adapting.

>>713864335
many, but not all. we'd get right back where we are before long, and then keep going, like we always do.

>>713864304
>The Temple of Direction was the chosen theme for the 2019 Burning Man event, designed by Geordie Van Der Bosch
>It served as a space for the Burning Man community to grieve, give thanks, let go, connect, renew, and reflect.
>The design was inspired by the elegance and austerity of the torii gates at Fushimi Inari Shrine in Japan
>the white man lacks total creativity and once again has to go to the superior race for inspiration

>>713863843
We've been cutting meat with stones we broke apart before the first word was ever spoken. Once fire was controlled and cooking discovered eating got even easier on the mouth. When language took off being able to speak well was a evolutionary advantage and probably shaped the mouth further away from bulky fangs.

>>713863408
No you're not. You're just some fat underachieving retard living and justifying being 100 pounds overweight vicariously through achievements of all human history scribbling painfully amateurish stories about how impressed aliens would be of a decked out AR15.

>>713864126
Hermit crabs do something similar. In the same way, wearing animal skins is basically our natural state. It's part of us like a hermit crab's shell.

>>713864494
anon...do some pushups with me, right now. post numbers decide the number. we'll both feel better afterwards

>>713864476
>The White man burns down some dogshit asian temple for his own spiritual advancement
ZASED
Take another nvke jap

>man mogs nature
>rapes it like no tomorrow
>denies being born from it
>in fact, decides to claim he was created by a supreme being that looks literally like a man
>does not kill the entirely animal and plant kingdom because he gets "sad" without it, wins so hard he gets tired of winning

>>713864494
bodied that freak

>>713864494
He will never recover from this.

fight through every nightmare. they can only have as much power as you give them.

>>713856552
Humans are the worst animals. Apart from all the other ones.
Basically the world is terrible. If there's a God out there, he's an evil monsters who enjoys our suffering.

>>713856024
> dark ages
like 1200 years ago?
modern humans (read: brains as capable as ours, today) have been around for like fifty thousand years
don't fall for the retardoid trap that only recorded history is relevant to modern human life

>man melts sand and boils water to make and power rock that thinks
>melts more sand and boils more water to link up many of these thinking rocks
>many men using their thinking rocks, linked together to a bigger thinking rock that is like a host for a soul called "four chan"
>they spend their whole day doing this
Dude science o algo

>>713864886
more like 300 thousand, probably longer if you include other hominid species with similar intellect

>>713864570
Anything can exist at any time. Don't believe lies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU6KkrdbbTE

>>713854614 (OP)
Its fucking crazy how fucking broken human is compared to other animals.

Its like.
>Lets create a broken animal that has insane endurance to chase down every fucking animal just by chasing it untill prey is exhausted.
>Fuck it lets make its body to be an ultimate object throwing machine basically giving it a legit and effective ranged attack.
>Lets make it social.
>Holy shit i have turned monkey into a fucking apex predator that hunts anything by just endurance and keeps away other predators by bombarding them with rocks LMAO.
>STILL have evolution points left.
>Lets fucking max out intellect and add long lifespan and hands able to grab to make it broken beyond broken.

>tranimals

>>713856024
The reason you don't beat the shit out of and kill your neighbors for their stuff is exactly why your retarded statement isn't true.

>>713864930
4chan is the pinnacle of civilization in any timeline. We don't need to go past it. I don't care if it's the stone age I WILL invent 4chan.

>>713855390
>right
Miss Simian sexo

>>713856801
> hmm yes today I will kill all the sparrows, this will help my farm yields

>>713864986
You forgot language. One of our most OP abilities.
>pass knowledge down between generations
>coordinate and plan our efforts
>record information

>Have self repair for all organs except the heart
What did nature mean by this?

>>713865026
>humans were the real tranimals all along

>>713862425
Dont do this it makes ilithids

>>713859472
go ahead and try to imagine 500 years from now as a thought experiment

>>713865817
Never happens because you can already see that everybody is sick of this reality.

>>713863639
>Can't be both.
of course it can. why couldn't it? and even that's still ignoring the possibility of perfectly comprehensible reason that suffering might be important. lots of people have had ideas for why that might be the case, it's it's obviously not an inherently incomprehensible concept.

>>713865817
tried this and almost threw up.

>>713865359
Your liver is constantly bathing in poison, livers that don't repair themselves lead to animals dying quickly and not reproducing. Your brain heals, to an extent, when you're young. The older you are the less it does. You can't survive a punctured stomach, so it doesn't heal. You can't survive a punctured heart, so it doesn't heal. Your kidneys heal a bit, but not as well as your liver. Your gallbladder, pancreas, all your various glands and whatnot all don't heal if they get injured, mostly because people who were injured in ways that fucked up their digestive systems that badly just died so there was no pressure to evolve efficient ways of healing damage to them.

>>713866297
So basically an evolutionary fuckup that we have to live with

>>713866395
That's our entire body unfortunately

One day we'll have the power to intelligently design our bodies but until then you have to live with all the stupid bullshit mother nature has bestowed upon you

You know the nervous system has the 'potential' to regenerate, but the body freaks the fuck out and fills the space between the severed nerves with scar tissue before the actual nervous tissue can reconnect?

>>713855134
Rockman

>>713866564
nta but i'm sad nao.. i'm gonna die one day..

>>713865817
It's hard to imagine a future that isn't a nightmarish cyberpunk dystopia.
I mean we're most of the way there already. We're rapidly approaching robot soldiers.
The biggest untapped field is biotech. We're barely scratching the surface of what's possible there, but it's such a difficult field to make gains in.

I'd say there's a good chance of cracking immortality in the next 500 years.
Will we be able to adapt to that?

>>713866941
not unless our minds become immortal, able to react to old stimuli

>>713866941
In 500 years the wealthy will be wealthier, and probably live on the moon or something. They won't offer that kind of tech to the average poor, brown, Earth dweller.

>>713866941
our minds have yet to adapt to shit like tiktok and instagram, we are doomed.

>>713866941
at some point they are going to realize they have a soul and that wasn't necessary