NEVER FORGET, KERDLEY WILL BE CANON IN CHAPTER 5

SHE SHALL NOT BE KEKED.

least unhinged deltatroon thread

>>714322873 (OP)
Hey man, you can't say that.

https://gamebanana.com/mods/604093
Humanfag asked for it IIRC so here it is

>>714324209
BASED

>>714324209
Damn! I didn't expect someone to actually do it! Thanks, anon!

Krisriel

Kris is good at kissing?

Berdly is the coolest because he's a based chud gamer therefore he deserves to get all the pussy

>>714324209
MY FUARKING HERO

>>714324876
or maybe Susie is better?

>>714324901
nah, Berdly's a stone-cold incel

>>714322873 (OP)
IT'S BERDLY YOU FUCKING RETARDS NOT BERDLEY
IT SHOULD BE KERDLY

>>714324959
OR MAYBE

>>714324970
Berdly would use his gamer knowledge to become the Xerxes master of Hometown after the apocalypse happens and then he'd make all the women his sex slaves and all the men die for him in territory wars

>>714325045

>>714324209
Good shit anon.

>>714324985
Krurghley

what the was going on here?

>>714325428
She was looking at (You)

>>714322873 (OP)
I actually hope we can really go through with the berdly date and at least make him and kris bros.

>>714325428
gasters program broke for a second

>>714325428
noelle dialogue choice but we cant see it

>>714325428
Do NOT ignore how the rain completely disappears instead of just freezing

>>714325045
And then Noelle starts to inflate

>>714325603
But what does it mean, doc

>>714325530
>gets the most character development in chapter 2
>sets a precedent for us to expect other lightners to hop in dark worlds
>"nah its just him who gets this lmao hes not in the prophecy either"
>10 lines in chapter 4, no lines in weird route, character development reverted to 0 because he thinks it was a dream
Bravo Toby

>>714325428
Either Kris making an active effort to suppress us so we can't fuck everything up with Susie by telling her exactly what happened, or because the question could additionally be interpreted as "a question for Noelle", the prompt tries to let us respond as Noelle even though she's nowhere near the scene.
The latter speculation's backed up by the fact that Noelle is aware of when (You) think about her during the Dark World later when Ralsei tries to prompt you to think about Susie, and Noelle directly thanks you for mindbreaking her.

>>714325428
Kris got so pissed that he took away control from (you), the only other time something like this happens is when mind-breaking Noelle. I don't think I need to explain what this implies.

>>714322873 (OP)
You mean Girthley

>>714322873 (OP)
Berdly is heterosexual, which is how you know Kris isn't male.

>>714325428
This effect is called susie_filter in the files, by the way.

>>714325586
Explain the logic of this idea because I still don't get it

>>714322873 (OP)
>>714324019
>Killed off the best character for some edgy side route
Damn shame. He can never have a big role in any future chapter now.

>>714325827
>Noelle directly thanks you for mindbreaking her.
Based

>>714325428
No clue. Genuinely weirdest scene in the game.

>>714324876
Kris might be good at flirting but they're shy about getting intimate and at the same time they get really aggressive when they're into something. Kris's kisses would be clumsy but also hungry, they'd try to eat you up, go deep, not give you room to breath, bite your tongue or bang your teeth together. More than anything they would probably rather give you love bites and lick you.

>>714324959
Susie is even more shy and awkward than Kris, but she has a big strong tongue to make up for it. With a little practice she'd be able to make anyone melt.

>>714323058
To be fucked would require a relationship to exist in the first place

How can I become popular with japanese people like Tobert?

https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/1940556946651992081

>>714325428
>And then the screen turned red and the text box had NO answers and the rain and sound effects vanished
Are creepypasta tropes not as bad as I thought they were? This is the sort of thing that would make my eyes roll if it was something like a Pokemon creepypasta, but here it felt like I was looking into the void and the void stared back

>>714326292
talk to Japanese people

>>714326292
Add any genre of NTR to your game.

>>714322873 (OP)
WHEN WE WE RAPE THE BERD

>>714326268
*cucked

>>714325428
It's just a clever way of showcasing Kris dodging Susie's inquiry by subverting an established game mechanic. There's no good reason to believe that there's more to it.

>>714326360
There are no good or bad tools, all that matters is how you use them.

>gaster considers any action you take to be acceptable
>except taking an egg
what does it mean

>>714326348
Pikmin sisters we are eating so good

>>714326463
Please note that if you do this I will hunt you down and hurt you.

Why does he keep calling Susie that?

>Flower Man, trapped in asylum
So is Asgore getting locked in the Shelter too?

What is Toby's grand plan with this nigga?
>the odd one out of your classmates that isn't susie/noelle, has a text voice and many portraits
>the only other lightner to enter a dark world and have an actual chapter-long role, that isnt the main trio
>straight up gets major development but this goes away when he wakes up, and doesnt go anywhere
>not in the prophecy
>is the only character who can take permanent damage from the dark world
>is the only character who can be KILLED, but survives it anyway
>when this happens, the "blue bead" in the hospital is broken off
>several dialogue choices to include him or date him in the festival, can even give your chapter 2 plush to him and tell ralsei you're thinking about him
>extremely small amount of dialogue in chapter 4 for how much relevance he had
Where is he going with this?

>>714326360
Tropes can be good and spooky when it isn't used in some 15 year olds first "serious" rom hack

>>714326597
>EVERYTHING IS PROCEEDING ACCORDING TO MY DESI-
>NO KRIS WHAT THE FUCK PUT THAT EGG DOWN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO COLLECT SHADOW CRYSTALS NOT FUCKING EGGS

>>714326626
When does he say this?

>>714326360
was about to post >>714326582 it's why the edgy shit in fangames can't be taken seriously.

>>714326624
WTF don't hurt Toby.

>>714326626
Cause he's a stupid aspie dick head that plays smash bros melee

>>714326647
The "Asylum" is the delusional worldview he's constructed where all he has to do is prove what happened to Dess, and suddenly Toriel will forgive him and they'll be a family again and he'll get his job back and everything will be the way it's supposed to be
The next Dark World will be in his flower shop and it won't survive the Chapter and neither will he

>>714326548
Kris already has been established to not respond to player input by "misinterpreting" what the player wants them to do. If Kris wanted to dodge Susie's question the player would just pick an option and Kris would fumble it. This seems... something beyond Kris's control. Kris can't just fucking make it stop raining.

So, other than booze and bones, what's he getting her hooked to first?

>>714326597
What do you mean? He's the one giving you the eggs

>>714326626
>t.average Krusie enjoyer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfYM2DwHqTU

>>714326869
Nope, The Man and Gaster are two different people

>>714325971
>when you rape noelle you implant a "red dot" inside of her
>this is implied to be a growing SOVL
>you can already "think" about her in the dark world and know exactly what she is doing and hear what shes doing which shouldnt be possible
Therefore, that scene is Noelle getting a dialogue option (which is why you have choices) and since you're not actually there or focusing on her, you dont know what option you're choosing
It is simply showing that (You) are in some sort of control

>>714326548
I don't think it's that simple, and if he could do this why doesn't he do this later in the chapter?
I really wish it wasn't so wishy washy with what Kris can do with the soul in his body with it out.

>>714326796
>berdley calls Susie Susan nearly every time she talks to her
>Its a recurring joke all through chapter 2
>Susie corrects him more than once
>BRO WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN????
Deltarune players NEVER READ our game dialogue, it gets in the way of the DEEP LORE

>>714326869
special easter egg that is only in the console versions with achievements shows they are two different people, and probably at odds with each other

The reason Ralsei is so insistent on kindness and pacifism is because the prophecy wanted him to be the black mage with high-damaging fire spells
Noelle looking like a white mage (especially so in Mantle) isn't just a reference, she's naturally a better healer and sparer than Ralsei because it's her intended role
That's why Ralsei thought being nice to everyone would change the prophecy

>>714326804
I will spare the dog man so long as he has the goat man beat the everloving shit out of the bone man.

>>714326796
When you talk to berdly again after the queen fight, im not sure if its after he fries his arm only

I will have FREEDOM.
If I am not given my FREEDOM the Angel will have Heaven.

>>714326864
Meth. The skeletons specialize in the blue stuff, after all.

>>714326360
A lot of shit depends on delivery and context. Take any kind of rousing epic moment in a game or film out of the context, just drop it in with names changed so it's an abstraction and it has fucking dick all to give you.

>>714326825
That's how I read it initially, but I'm wondering if it's being more literal.

>>714326864
basketti. he misses his brother. the romance with toriel is gonna get real weird and culminate with her wearing a skeleton costume during halloween and being fucked from behind by sans with a large comedy bone-shaped strap-on bouncing along with it and kris and susie and noelle and the footstool are all going to walk in and see it and the entire rest of the chapter is violent drama and arguing and whining from toriel to kris after sans and everyone else leaves because it's too awkward

A few days ago someone in these threads said something along the lines of being sad that there's no Kris x Susie fanfics out there with like 100.000 words in them to satisfy their raging, autistic love for this ship. Well, that single comment got me into writing for the first time in like a decade, since i left school. I write at a glacial pace but i hope someday i will have something to show to people like that. I can only hope they're still here when that happens.

>>714326360
Probably helps that you aren't going in with the expectation of the game being a horror game, and that the moment has more significance than just a being a regular scary moment.

>>714326659
None? He's a heterosexual male in a Toby Fox game. He exists to be a joke.

>>714325428
Felt a bit too much like Doki Dokin lit club for my taste, but I can't deny it is effective at unsettling the player

>>714326360
Toby's specialty is concepts and tropes that no other creator can make work.

>>714326659
He will be the super schizo boss if you turn up the heater and decided to continue in the Weird Route

>>714326292
You can't. You will never have Japanese artists draw hot fanart of your characters.

>>714327215
Cool, once you finish your 100k Krusie fic, write me a 300k Noelle x (you) fic please.

>>714325976
I wonder if in some future chapter Berdly will have an scene where he helps the party and gives you a key item or something, but in the weird route, such event never happens and so you miss out on said key item as a consequence

>>714327263
Anyone can do it, if they just make it with sincerity

>>714326842
>>714326925
I still think it's just a way to showcase that the line of questioning was dodged. It's probably done in this unusual way simply to make the player feel unnerved. There's not really much there to go on.

>>714327215
godspeed anon

>>714326053
They're perfect for each other.

>>714326360
>>714327163
MANTLE quite literally had "AND THEN THE EVIL MAIN CHARACTER WHO JUST KILLED HIS FRIENDS WALKED OUT OF THE SCREEN AND TRIED TO STAB ME" and it was unironically cool because of context and delivery

>>714326360
Cliches and Tropes are good, actually
and can work.
They almost always work, when they're earned.
The fact of the matter is, most stories now-a-days do not earn them, and they know they don't, so they either do them anyways as some weird post modern fuck you, or subvert them on purpose to piss fans of said tropes off.
That is how bitter a lot of western """"artists""" are.

>>714327249
>heterosexual male

>>714327215
I've been wanting to write my own smut fic recently. Like, softcore stuff, nothing too pornographic. Ceroba x Martlet

>>714327028
This is also why Susie is taking so well to healing magic after Gerson's confidence boost, she's bruteforcing her way into being the Second Hero even if she's not meant to be, whether she knows it or not.
And Chapter 5's probably going to be the point Ralsei has to accept that he needs to start using his full arsenal if he's truly going to help the gang survive the upcoming hardships, which in turn will be where his Guts stat starts consistently ticking upward alongside everyone else, compared to when it only rose for 3 and then immediately dipped afterwards.

>>714327215
Based and Gersonpilled

>>714326597
Grandpa Semi is his enemy.

>>714327215
Nice, I'll read your fanfic if you post it even it's ready

>>714325428
(You) tried to say something but Kris held his mouth shut as tight as he could because he was aware at that point you were malevolent.

Llke picture holding your jaw shut but still trying to talk.

>>714327453
The hooves are so hot.

>>714327341
Berdly isn't dead dude, he was just hospitalized

>>714327529
>>714327028
Also it may be possible that Healing magic depends on empathy, which Susie has in droves but Ralsei really struggles with it.

>>714325428
>YOU are squeezing Kris's heart to stop them from saying anything to Susie
>Kris's heart is skipping a beat because they're panicking about Susie getting involved with the fucked up shit you're doing
Either interpretation works. All we know for sure is that Kris tells Susie not to talk about it anymore afterward. Neither YOU or Kris want Susie to get involved.

>>714326647
It's talking about the golden flower literally trapped in a glass panel.

>>714325428
>>714326360
For me, it's the face Susie makes right before that happens

>noelle was likely going to be kris’ partner if he wasn’t late and thus be the one to enter the closest with him
>the first partner you get in the TRUE mantle game is based of Noelle
>noelle was supposed to the girl in the prophecy
>tfw Carol plan originally involved using Noelle, Kris, and (YOU)
>tfw Susie is an enigma we only grew to like due to kris being a sleepy fuck

>>714326659
He's semi-relevant according to the LIST.

>>714325919
>filter that's used in a scene with susie is called susie_filter
stop the presses

>>714327636
Susie would comment on how he is holding is mouth shut or say "...huh? I can't hear you when you talk like that. Eh, Whatever dude"

>>714323058
She already has.

>>714327636
>>714325827
>>714326548
Cant be, Kris can already do that without time freezing or that text effect

Its more likely a "question for noelle" who isnt actually there but has a SOVL red dot

>>714326864
Nothing. He's a hero that saved her.

>>714327491
>Kris, may the best suitor... Epic win.
This is the apex of cringekino

IT PULLS THE STRINGS AND MAKES THEM RING
UNTIL YOUR HEART TURNS TO A RED DOT!

>>714327768
the list gets btfo'd by december and carol

>>714327215
Based anon. Gerson would be proud.

>>714327741
I hate this expression. For no other reason than I don't want to be feeling like whatevers causing her to make it

>>714326919
The red dot is just blood.

>>714327453
>Had a few friends like this
>Lost them because of moving constantly
>Now no friends

>>714327939
What if they're only excluded because they're both MORE important than everyone else

>>714322873 (OP)
As long as it’s not Reddit approved polygamy it’ll be fine

>>714327365
Then Kris deserves the torment he gets after the next 3/4(?) dialog options where you can do something that would piss him off

>FEEL THE PRISMATIC FURY!
How do you respond without sounding mad?

It's not part of your soul, it's just blood.
The soul has known abilities that go beyond the norm, (we)'re clearly stopping anything from being said.

>>714323058
It's over doe
Toby has seen the light
Gays are gay

>>714327453
>Kris is the demon and Noelle is the Angel

POTTERY

>>714327743
>noelle was likely going to be kris’ partner if he wasn’t late
Unlikely, Berdly would've cockblocked him. The word DECEMBER was planted in the spelling bee by one of Gaster's followers specifically for that to happen.

>threads are slowing down
>no one left but gooners and shipfags
It was fun while it lasted.

>>714327961
This is what a perfect ending looks like

Someone convince me to do weird route

>>714327961

>>714328115
there's literally theorizing happening right now open your eyes nigga

>>714327924
I swear, people just hear whatever they want in that song.

>>714328115
On the bright side, we're already a little over halfway there to 2026, and then we can start speculating when the fuck exactly that year we'll get Chapter 5.

>>714327263
This >>714327364
After doing a troupe, Toby doesn't turn to the camera with an eyebrow raised and lampshade what just happened in an attempt to make the audience feel smart and media literate.

>>714328115
I hate when it gets shipfaggy (read: people making the exact same complaints about Suselle over and fucking over that everyone already understands and has seen a billion times) too but it's not even that bad right now.

>>714327768
utter nonsense

>>714328208
January 1st, 2026, trust the plan

>>714327994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VExcTRjssi4

You can move the red dot.

>>714327961
>yfw that's the start of chapter 7

>>714328196
He has to ignore these, otherwise he can't complain about "shipfags".

>>714328115
Speaking of, "shipfags" literally don't exist. Same people discuss theories and talk about ships.

>>714325428
>What were you talking about with Noelle?

Kris CANNOT risk Susie finding out and ruining the ENTIRE plan he's been cooking for god knows how long with Carol and The Knight, and on top of that he fucking HATES you in weird route.
So it stands to reason he's willing to really put the brakes on both of your abilities to say and do shit in that moment, he straight up punches the candles when you try to pray for Noelle too he can honestly just ignore what you order him to do if he wants so long as he's violent or blunt about how he does it.

>>714328115
Its the same people as before, only by now they have extinguished every possible topic for discussion so they turn to shipfaggery

LV20 Chara-Frisk
VS
LV1 True Pacifist Frisk
Who wins?

>>714328295
No, that's just Noelle rocking back and forth. The Red Dot is called blood_drip.

>>714328393
>Noelle rocking back and forth
The blood is on her hand. She's masturbating.

>>714328393
You can move the red dot. Filenames aren't the end all be all.

>>714328231
Berdly

>Well, I haven't really thought about it. It's just... I've always wondered why we're here on this town. If there are any other worlds out there, why did we end up on this one? And suppose there are other worlds... Then ours is just a little piece of something much greater. So we could have just as easily ended up somewhere else, right?

>>714328362
Disingenuous poll, typically when people complain about shipfags they're referring to the people who repeat the exact same verbatim complaints about Suselle every thread, not anyone who ships any characters at all. People voted based on them liking ships, not about them saying the same shit over and over.

ralsei mating press

>>714328393
that doesnt mean it isnt true, i shouldnt be able to
>think about noelle all the way from a dark world, to the other side of town in the light world and also hear her
>move this "blood drip" with my arrow keys

>>714328362
>poll
i wouldn't call myself a shipfag outright cause i know i would get made fun of

>>714328208
I said already, there's 4 possible dates in 2026.
February 13th (day when Dess dessappeared)
December 25th
Undertale 10th Anniversary
06.06.2026 (was revealed to me in the dream)

>>714328393
The motion made in the video doesn't look like a deliberate rocking, it's an erratic movement from a player who realized "wait, I can control this fucking thing."

>>714327741
>Like, I don't know about this route, Scoob!

>the secene that broke tumblr

>>714328578
>complains about disingenuous
>moves goalposts
Yeah nah fuck off.

>>714328647
It was anonymous and I asked people to answer honestly.

>>714328557
In the 5 hours I spent grinding to beat her bitch ass, I kept remembering that I beat No Heart and Mother Fucker this past year with all three characters, so I can put up with any bullshit at this point.

>>714328634
How do I make sure he actually wants sex and isn't just pretending because he wants to please Lightners?

>>714328714
kek

>>714328525
He's the most honest take on the irritating stuck-up nerd troupe that there's been in anything for years.

>I'm NAUGHT a shipfag, I'm NAUGHT *loads up the same 3-4 kriselle collages*

>>714328368
I don't get it.
If Kris has the ability (that he exercises pretty often, especially in 3+4) to actively disrupt, disobey, or deny the Souls control over him, why doesn't he just fucking actively do it? He obviously hates being controlled, and dislikes some of our options (which are implied to come from him). It just feels like Kris CAN control his body even with the Soul inside it but chooses NOT to.

>>714328735
I don't know what this retard >>714328115 meant, but whenever I complained about shipfags it was always for the reason I stated. Not moving any goalposts.

>>714328115
You've been making this exact post with slight variations for days now

>>714328373
Whoever (you) are controlling.

>>714327741
Is this sprite not used anywhere else? I honestly am not totally sure what it is meant to convey. Is she possibly feeling jealous of Kris and Noelle? Is she just worried?
Would it be easier for me to tell if I wasn't autistic

>>714327961
KRIS I WILL MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND YOU WILL LIKE IT

>>714327741
It reminds me of this. I look like that and I had that expression in exactly the same situation.
the character lost an arm and a leg, but survived

>>714328393
>red dot teased in ARG
>toby's placeholder for censoring the rose was the red dot
>red dot appears when thinking of noelle, you the player can move it
>red dot appears in the weird route ending
>"uhh its just blood dripping haha, its all just blood dripping you meanie you didnt do anything to neolle, look at this filename"
Toby? Toby Fox? Is that you?

Hearing Hammer of Justice and BYARP BYARP BARP unironically fills me with hope
How did Toby do it

>>714327263
No.

>>714328646
>>714328668
>>714328513
Go into your games right now and try to move. You can't. This was already debunked

* Smells like Berdly's cum-filled post-fuck sweaty and rank cloaca

Reminder that the Asgore running over Dess meme is Toriel propaganda.
In fact, it makes more sense for it to be Toriel who runs over Dess.
>February 13th, one day before Valentine's.
>Pissed off at Dess for corrupting her golden boy Asriel.
>Drink too much wine.
>Drive to Choir Practice drunk (her soon to be ex-husband is the police chief so she can get away with it in her mind).
>Sees Dess walking along the street.
>Run her over.

>>714328725
THE RAPED....... has cute feet

>>714328809
>Entire route dedicated to getting their ship
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHIPFAG
You're jealous.

>>714328557
>Take a look at this tiny place. To the heart seeking freedom this town is a prison surrounded by woods. And so this girl sought out to escape from her prison. She sought a way to cross over into other worlds. And she opened her heart to darkness.

Asgore Kris and The Soul should team up to kill Sans

I think it's too difficult to speculate OUTRIGHT who will be the final boss.
HOWEVER
Do you think the final boss will be a Lightner or a Darkner?
Ignore Weird route since everyone seems to agree it will be Susie.
Count FRIEND as a Darkner and Gaster as a Lightner.

>>714325428
>>714325919
>>714327796
For the record, this filter is not red. It is actually Susie's icon color. It being named after Susie isn't a convenience, the filter itself has to do with Susie in some way.

>>714326360
Things often work better when you actually witness them instead of have them described to you. You're less likely to get cynical about any shameless cliche use because you're getting a first-hand reminder that said cliches can actually be fucking creepy.

>>714328818
There's clearly more to it, for example he doesn't like ever letting the soul have the time or freedom to escape (caged at night, specifically put into a box at noelles, all doors and windows are closed, stuffed into the couch/drawer etc) and even when he despises us he doesn't seem capable of carrying us around in a jar for an extended period of time.
Either he needs us or we need him to survive in general but its clearly something symbiotic and explicitly required for a higher purpose.

>>714329019
>Entire route dedicated to getting their ship
Noelle belongs to ME, not that scrawny little pussy

>>714328820
Okay, your vote was counted, poll adjusted accordingly.

>>714329003
If that were true, then why was Asgore the one who paid the price?

>>714327030
I liked that one joke about delta sans permanently getting lowered to 1hp after asgore brutalized him.

I love birds

>>714329003
>Asgore running over Dess meme is Toriel propaganda
Well it's working because it makes me love the hell out of him

>>714328835
>i-it's all the same people! Surely there wouldn't be more than a single person that hate inane discussion!
This is what degenerate shipfaggotry brainrot looks like.

>>714329213
Come on, you really don't think it wouldn't be on brand for him to believe whatever bullshit his beloved wife spun?

>>714329019
anon, the game practically spells it out for you that noelle and kris are both gonna die. they'll be "used up" and thrown away. it isn't some romantic side plot its about manipulating someone else to achieve some other goal

>>714329209
>hates when people dont like suselle
Disingenuous faggot yet again.
My problem isn't that they hate Suselle it's that they say the same fucking things over and over and make the threads boring as hell.
If people complained about flat earthers nonstop all the time and made it obnoxious to be around them because they never shut the FUCK UP about it, would I be a flat earther for finding them annoying? Would I?

>>714329389
Yes to both.

>>714328847
I know there's another scene.
I think it's her thinking of the worst case scenario, and is distraught over the possibility.
Susie perhaps thought that Noelle and Kris were talking shit about her, despite Kris and Noelle supposedly being friends with her.

>>714326919
Okay but why can you think about what susie is doing and see that too

>>714328847
Definitely worried or scared.

>>714329361
wow, I mean, when you put it like that, I guess I'll go back to hiding in dess's closet.

Snow grave
Wrong save

>>714329213
He only paid the price from Toriel after he said no to her for once in his life after she tells him she ran over his best friend's daughter and son's girlfriend while drunk driving.
The courts sided with Toriel because she's a woman.

>>714327743
To think Susie would’ve been Berdly’d if things hadn’t gone the way they did… Makes me feel something…

>>714329528
OH NO

>>714328557
>>714329048
hey hey Kingdom Hearts is fucking gay

>>714329389
sounds like pancakefag damage control to me

What exactly is The Soul if Kris is its own person?

>>714328992
None of the anons will reply to this because they know they're peddling bullshit

>>714329146
She’s got resolve.

>>714329641

>>714329528
TOBEEEEEERT

>>714328725
Nah. Tumblr women love this kinda shit in their fanfics.

>>714329656
you know it.

>>714329641

>>714329497
shes in one room away and specifically during the lancer fight we are in charge of her taking damage
noelle is a light world away and on the other side of town
also in that scene, you can think of the knight but you dont omnipotently teleport to what theyre doing

>>714329682
But seriously. Is The Soul a parasite? Kris seems to need it

>>714329301
>mthey
>master ragebaiter
>cool art (besides the thick Kris neck)
Based

>(action between paragraphs)
>Kris losing it at nothing
>thick Kris neck
Cringe

I'm conflicted about this image

>>714329714
I haven't found that many

With the rare dialog for the ribbick including both
>A lost
>and lost
>and lost girl
As well as
>A crying
>and crying
>and crying boy
Do you suppose Asriel is more likely to get significant screen time now?
Dess's disappearance probably affected Asriel a lot. Some people take the Catty letter to mean Asriel got over it, but they don't consider that he never actually gave it to her.
He may have even been at the incident with Dess (and Kris?).

>>714329361
Toby would be a hack if he didn't take snowgrave to chapter 7.

>>714325428
The real weird part is, this apparently STILL happens if you abort the route before raping the doe.

Do you think she came during?

>>714329641
It's literally (You). Much like how Chara hitches a ride on Frisk's soul, thanks to Gaster connecting us to Deltarune, as well as whatever forced us to discard the vessel, we hitched a ride on Kris' soul.
Hell, from how familiar he is with dealing with soul hijacking, he's probably had another entity before (You), which is why he's so inherently wary and antagonistic.

>>714329764
It's (You). This time you won't wriggle away.
>Kris seems to need it
He can't go into dark world without it.

>>714329000
>berdly cum-filled post-fuck sweaty and rank cloaca dark world theory

>>714329865
I wish I could kiss a cute deer girl

>>714329865
During, before, several times after. She's still masturbating when we think of her later >>714328393

>>714329865
Several times. By the end she was on top and taking the lead

>>714329865
No, just in remembrance. That's what she was doing when you think about her in the Dark World.

>>714330031
It wasn't even supposed to be rape, but she leg-locked.

>>714329528
fug:D

>>714329823
nothing says it couldn't happen then too. It just has signs that you will sacrifice them to get what you want eventually

>>714329528
Kris Noelle
Killer Ones

>>714329865
>>714330000
Checked

>>714329528
>>714330124
I mean, it can't be, right? Toby is not known for playing with anagrams in his projects?

>>714329865
Kris is a master of laying pipe even without directions

>>714330108
Kris will be used up. Noelle will be used up. You will get that sweet, sweet freedom sauce for yourself.

Toby could probably make red glowing text unironically work

>>714329351
>Toriel runs over Dess
>Realizing she just fucking murdered a teenager, she hightails it home and tells Asgore everything
>Torn between his duty as police chief and love for his wife, Asgore decides to take responsibility so she can avoid jail time
>Asgore gets removed as chief of police and spends some time in prison, though he's a nice enough guy that everyone believes it was just an accident
>While Asgore is in prison, Toriel decides she doesn't actually need Asgore in her life, since she's doing so well with him out of the house
>Once he's freed, Asgore comes home, and Toriel announces her intent to divorce him
>He asks why, she says she doesn't need to explain to him in a tone of voice that suggests she's fully internalized her own lies about Asgore being the one who ran over Dess

>>714329528
GASTER HELP

>>714329865
She says thank you so I'm guessing she had a good time

>>714328738
Finger his prostate until he cums like a girl, he'll definitely want it by then

So do you think the "lost time" between chapters will ever be diagetically explained?
I can't think of a consistent rule. The big wrench in the gears is chapter 3. Kris is standing in front of the door of the Shelter, SOUL is still inside Kris. Kris possibly inputs something without us doing anything. The door opens. Cut to black.
At first I speculated maybe we always lose connection at 2 AM, but chapter 3 breaks that because ch3 is happening the same night that ch2 ended.
Ch3 also stops it from being a thing about us being away from Kris too long and thus losing connection, because again, we're inside Kris when we cut to black.
The only other explanation I can think of is that Gaster chooses when to end the chapter. This is made pretty reasonable by the end of ch4 since he talks to us then. But, in that case...
WHY DID GASTER END CHAPTER 3 AT THAT MOMENT?
And how could Kris enter the shelter with confidence that the soul isn't seeing what happens??

>>714330124

>>714327994
then why do we see it

>>714330330
AAAIIIIEEEE

>>714330230
No wonder his sink's always running

Daily reminder - things Noelle has done with Susie:
>Creeped on her
>Projected her missing sister onto her
>Threw her friendship with Kris under the bus to try to get closer to her
Things Noelle HASN'T done with Susie:
>Gone on multiple adventures together with her
>Had her stay the night
>Put stickers on her face
>Taken her out to eat at the diner
>Used her as a weed whacker on a plate of cheese crackers
>Was NOT awarded the Susie Star despite having Susie at her house

GONER
GONER + EGG
GO (EGG) NER
GO O NER
GOONER

>>714330440
GONERS
GERSON

The snow grave / weird route

1 nothing

2 snow grave music of snowgraving

3. the invisible guide during Zelda mini game with ice dungeon S rank sound effect

4. the thorn ring red dot thank you and unsettling sound


5. Guitar?

>Kris Susie Ralsei Noelle = One Serial Killer's Issue

>>714330519
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SAVEME EGGMAN

>>714330440
NEGGGOR

>>714329209
>>714330425
lole

>>714330540
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

>>714330535
guitar is probably Noelle reminiscing on their childhood or some shit

>>714330425
Oh and I forgot one for the pile of things Noelle hasn't done
>Had a heartfelt talk by the lake late at night
I apologize for this error, it won't happen again
Glory to the Krusie agenda

Toby needs to read this thread im fucking dying

>>714330540
>Issues One Serial Killer

>>714330187
Making the couch comically long only to exploit that with the rape allegory scene by using it to exaggerate Noelle trying to get away and you pursuing is genuinely nefarious.
One important difference between Toby Fox and many other game directors is that he has a blackly comedic darkness in his heart he is willing to paint his work with.

>>714330384
I had that exact thought, because outside of 1 and 4, where the soul is inside the cage it actually makes no sense why the soul can't move during these sequences. And the only thing I can think of is that Kris is somehow aware of how Cutscenes work and that the Soul cannot do much during them.

>>714330623
EVERYTHING IS AN ANAGRAM

>>714329641
I feel like toby is gonna pull a ghost trick and it turns out we were the soul of a completely different character this whole time, its clear that we play as the soul, but the soul definitely has its own motives and backstory outside of us

>>714330425
>Was NOT awarded the Susie Star despite having Susie at her house
Imagine if Susie stuck one of the leftover stickers from church somewhere at her house and said "It's a Kris award, for having Kris at your house"

>>714327215
I just saw a post on another site complaining about a severe lack of wholesome vanilla kriselle fanfics that aren't full of despair.

>>714330731
Didn't we run out of stuff to discuss?

>>714330648
what heartfelt talk? they barely talked
all kris did was stare at susie's face

>>714330707
>"God I'm sick of this fucking bird haha somebody kill this guy"
>Snowgrave

>>714330731
SUSIE GASTER
RAGE TISSUES

>>714330901
If Kris was a good vessel he would've given us the option to shove this motherfucker into the lake and immediately bolt back to the library to read whatever he was hiding

>>714329865
a bunch

>>714330661
>tobert, look!
>shut it all down, they know!
>time to rewrite the story again to subvert everyone's expectations

Snow grave is an actual anagram though.
I can’t wait to see the fourth forgotten hero kill everyone and freeze everyone to death in an ice palace

>"Hmm. Who should I fuck today? The gym teacher? A janitor? My adopted human son? Or that mysterious man behind the tree? Maybe all of them at once?"

>>714330901
I didn't even see this guy in my playthrough even though I talked to Onion both previous days. What's the deal with that? I stood in that spot he's in in your pic and eventually Susie said something like "I don't think your friend's gonna show up today."
So two questions
What triggers bird to be there instead?
Does his dialogue actually change on weird route? I've seen him say "Don't, wait." in other pictures.

>>714330997
what is it an anagram of then

Asgore did nothing wrong. Deers are pure evil creatures

>>714330384
Gaster absolutely intervenes for things we aren't yet meant to know at that point in time, like how Onion completely disappears in Chapter 4 if you've been meeting up with him every applicable chance from the very start, and returning to the spot after trying to wait nets you the appearance of Gaster's strongest soldier.
Adding onto that, when you return to that spot post-Dark World and sit down with Susie, the song from across the sea starts playing, as evidenced by Susie commenting on it, but (You) aren't allowed to hear it.

>>714331007
the milk cat deserves a go first, I think

>>714329870
>Much like how Chara hitches a ride on Frisk's soul,
"Chara" in Undertale was (You), too. Toby was just hamhanded about driving the point home at the end of Genocide.

>>714330384
Kris didn't input anything, something else opened the door

>>714331007
>Forgotten man is hiding behind the tree because he doesn't want Kris/(you) know that he is fucking Toriel

>>714331057
anger vows
answer gov
Garv Owens

>>714330997
>Snow grave is an actual anagram though.
Ah yes, the Knight's real identity
Ser Vag Won

Are there any mixed race families in the Deltarune town? How do we know any of our ships are even possible on a biological level?

>>714330992
Lesser man would rewrite his story. Toby would just say "no one is going to believe you"

>>714322873 (OP)
Berdly love

>>714331007
>Oh I'll just hit up my dealer again

>>714330773
KEK

>>714331148
I do genuinely find it pretty interesting that as far as I know Toby has never depicted monsters of different "species" being a family. The closest is Alphys & Undyne hooking up.
The Cattenheimers, Booms, Dreemurrs, Holidays, and Dog Marriage are all racially pure.

>Carol December Holiday = Berdly Cloaca Hemeroid

>>714331131
Turns out that's why Kris repressed the memory
He saw The Man banging his mom

What the fuck is his endgame?

>>714331349
He's doing a Homura

>>714331349
To fulfill his promise, which is almost undeniably Dess-related given how much he looked up to her.

>>714324209
holy shit. Please someone make more but removing all other faggots shit, make alphys or undyne a man and change the guard's faggotry to bromance friendship

>>714331349
going back to the good old days

>>714330752
>the soul definitely has its own motives and backstory outside of us
Where are you getting this?

>>714331456
How do faggots like you even end up in these threads?

>Forgotten Man is "The other HIM", the counterpart to whichever Gaster controls SURVEY PROGRAM
>Forgotten Man is Kris Dreemurr's biological human father
>Forgotten Man is Papyrus duhrr (wipes drool from mouth)
>Other
What do you want to be true?
>receiving his egg is an ISSUE to Gaster

>>714331046
If you wait for Onion until Susie says that, leave, then come back again, the bird will appear to warn you. And it disappears once you leave again
It doesn't change in the Weird Route
At the library
>* I love reading. Especially... wait.
>* Wait. The books upstairs. The books upstairs. Wait. The books are...
Library again
>* ... Wait. Wait, love.
At the lake
>* Don't wait, don't wait.
>* Especially, the don't.
Lake again
>* Wait, don't. Wait... don't!!!

>Camo jackets
>Military rations
>a fucking guitar

Did Dess die doing a /k/ S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Challenge with Azzy?

>>714331456
I want a mod where Alphys is patched out of the game entirely. Just replace her with a black square and make all her lines "null"

>>714331656
>Dess was a /k/ommando
Concerning implications

Goners are the Lightner equivalent to Darkners turning into statues
They turn gray when they're in a world they don't belong

>picking a lazy short skeleton dude over your husband flower king

>>714331349
Beating me with two hockey sticks the FUCKER

>>714331659
Better yet, just replace her with Berdly. Get that irony-poisoned otaku cunt out of here and bring in the SINCERE CHAD we all deserve.

>>714331553
Got kicked out of everywhere else probably

>>714331567
If those goner fucks did anything to my nigga Onionsan I'm gonna make the genocide route look like a fucking joke

>>714331761
at least the former isn't a stalker

>>714331531
we know it existed previously before our control because we only get to control kris on a random morning and that hes had to deal with the soul before our control because he already has the birdcage to throw it into. we know it has some sort of goal because snowgrave is a very deliberate route we take that deviates from the norm and the soul acts with purpose in mind.

>>714323058

chara is really snowgrave noelle
screencap this

>>714331307
>it's real

>ralsei plushie is more expensive than Deltarune all 4 chapters


?

>yare yare

>>714330425
Flawless victory

>>714332053
boobie

>>714331567
Do you think this implies we need to wait on Onion-san the first chapter and skip Onion on chapter 2? Does waiting for Onion-san in chapter 4 change if you do this?

>>714331975
Can you fill Deltarune with fluid and throw it at a wall?
No?
I rest my case

>>714331975
Not just 4, 25 dollars covers for future chapters too.

>>714331975
it should be even higher, Ralsei is priceless

>>714332053
>aqua necklace act 2

>>714332061
A SUSIE JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE!!!!

>>714331975
That's how physical merch has to be if you don't want it to be shitty crap that immediately falls to pieces.

>>714331749
>Goners in Deltarune also tend to be forgetful of things, especially about themselves
>Onion is a hopelessly forgetful and lonely individual that no one seems to know about or allude to until (You) come along
>he tries to tell you about the song from across the sea, the one thing he seems to remember
>gone in Chapter 4
>the fucking bird-shaped thing knew about Onion all along and schizophrenically tells you to not wait on him anymore
>Onion was never actually meant to be in Deltarune, but he slipped through the cracks by residing underwater in the dark depths, only appearing when (You) encourage him to appear
>Goner Onion appears in Chapter 5's egg area

>>714332132
I chose "priceless" on that question almost without a second thought and it was really cute to see Ralsei react to Kris doing it.

>Susie and Noelle wanna fuck this

>>714326360
DOUBT AND IRONY ANON
IT POISONS YOUR STORY

>>714331851
>at least the former isn't a stalker
Sans is a drug dealer.

>this text is green like Gerson

>>714331057
Wrong Save

>>714332240
It's sad if you let Ralsei answer on his own because he selects Lower, implying he values himself less than 8 dollars

>>714332270

>>714327028
>fire spells
why do I keep hearing about this

>>714332353
That’s actually kind of sad, probably because he thinks he’s not real

>>714332240
Same

>>714332353
worse, less than 8 DARK dollars assuming he doesn't know about lightner currency

>>714332271
>Release a chapter about how doubt ruins your story
>Immediately then remove your meticulously-animated wilting rose motif because you feel like your rape allegory got too real or something, despite having years to consider how to present this given it being the one significant new piece of alt route content

>>714331081
It's true, and Christmas is a pure evil holiday

>>714332270
Noelle is constantly telling him to leave her alone.

>>714332270
One on the face and one on the crotch while they kiss in the middle

>>714332132
>>714332240

>>714332484
I 100 Percent believe he did it on purpose.

Will there be a secret 8th chapter?

>>714332542
Tenna is so based

Reminder that
>We WILL get the Pure Crystal
>We WILL defy the Prophecy
>We WILL save Dess
>Ralsei WILL become a real boy
>We WILL become everyone's friend
>The Dark Worlds WILL stay accessable
>We WILL get a happy ending
And no force in existance can stop us.

>>714332291
EHHH! WRONG! Million times worse he's a tax cheat!

>>714332556
chapter 0.

>>714332542
Anon, genuine question. How do you have an image prepared for this exact scenario?

>>714332441
ralsei uses something akin to fire magic in chapter 4, I think its the light up effect in darkness fights. the little particles from the effect are identical to toriel and asgore's fire magic in undertale

>>714332602
Sure buddy, if you say so.
Didja figure out how to canonically and officially save Asriel in Undertale, yet? It's been almost 10 years, surely you can crack the code on that one...

>>714332450
Ralsei WILL be able to do this one day

>>714332484
can't say I blame him the way you retards just spammed rape everywhere and continue to do so, people genuinely are not mature enough for it

>>714331349
Kris is working with Carol and/or the Roaring Knight to try and find Dess who got lost in the bunker's Dark World. He needs (you) for your meta powers and to traverse the dark world.

>>714332602
Followed by an epilogue group photo showing everyone holding the baby Kris put into each and every one of them.

>>714332441
>Ralsei depicts himself with flames hovering around him even in his own telling of the prophecy
>Makes fire bullets (identical to Toriel and Asgore's) when he uses Light Up against Balthizard
>Looks like a Dreemurr and both have fire magic in UT

>>714332353
what price would you put on your life?
my workplace puts mine at $350,000

>>714332556
Im not so sure, but I admit it's odd that was the one changelog he added this reply to, as if the Annoying Dog stole the rose.

>>714332639
I'm convinced both Kris and Ralsei are far stronger than they've let on.

>>714332679
But we already did.

why ralsei asriel

Post yfw Ralsei finally uses offensive magic and he's actually really fucking strong

>>714332517
>One on the face and one on the crotch while they kiss in the middle
t. Soul

>>714332639
You can also use a LightUp ACT against a Balthizard, where Ralsei specifically uses his fire magic to ignite it, which also has the effect of turning its bullets from scented steam to outright fireballs.

>>714332715
>This but with Berdly

>>714332630
What do you mean

>>714332270
Kris toes...

I don’t get the star walker joke

If Ralsei is actually strong as shit why was he pussyfooting around the Titan? He gave off the feeling that things were hopeless.

>>714332687
Having faith in your art means not wavering in front of drooling retards.
Changing the rose because of rape shitposting is the equivalent of dumbing down your game's difficulty because DSP couldn't beat it.

>>714332897
why is Kris drawn with sexy legs so often

>>714332952
he's probably never honed his offensive magic since that's not his role(he's the healer)

>>714332484
>Write a chapter about how stories are constantly changing
>Retards immediately draw a hard line that you should never change anything no matter what

>>714332925
You're starting to boil my piss

>>714332805
>the annoying dog stole noelle's virginity
Damn...

>>714332925
joke?

>>714329528
>>714330124
AAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>714329345
>>714329003
does anyone have the parody of the "dont forget" song but its about asgore running over the knight with his car

>>714332952
I mean he smashes the Gerson statue to bits in three hits with his scarf, I don't think his fire magic was necessarily doing more than just hitting the Titan

>No one will shed a tear for him-ACK ACK ACK ACK

>>714332995
subconscious need for kris thighjobs

>>714332897
important question: is this male or female kris?

Some people (secondaries) in these threads make it clear every now and then that they think an actual rape scene happened and not allegory, so I genuinely wouldn’t blame Toby for changing things before that sort of narrative really spread around

>>714325428
>>714326360
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.

>>714332952
He's spent his entire life sitting in an empty castle practicing baking cakes and singing, he probably doesn't know how strong he really is

>>714332892
You know what i mean, motherfucker. How do you have all three "priceless" options crossed out for this one specific event, huh? HUH!?

>>714332995
Canon material
You saw how much effort they put into animating Kris's ass scooching at the piano

>>714332832
...As Flowey, someone who has to maintain a constant distance from the ones he wants to be around, his parents especially, and we still don't have a clear enough picture to know whether or not he can truly find peace with his circumstances since he was more focused on selflessly directing concerns towards everyone else's happiness.
You can get a happy ending in general, but not everyone's getting the best deal out of it, and that's a pill you must learn to swallow yet again with Deltarune.

>>714333116
But without Pippins Tenna will die....

Do you think Kris gags when Susie shoves her thick, long tongue down his throat?

>>714333163
I'm getting really, really sick of these
>I don't blame toby for changing it
posts
cookie cutter limp-wristed garbage

>>714331567
Wait... Don't... Wait... Don't... W...D

Not to harp on this topic but I honestly think the bloody snowflake is better imagery than the rose and it's surprising to think the snowflake was practically improvised or something

>>714332952
We know that magic can be trained, given Susie's whole deal with heals, so he probably lacked confidence in his fire magic since he's literally never used it outside of acting. It'd unironically be worse than bitch slapping the Titan with his scarf.

What if the reason Kris is so desperate to bring back Dess and work with the knight isn't because he likes Dess, but because he wants to make Noelle happy? I get the feeling that after Asriel, Noelle was the closest person to him.

>>714333223
g.ogg bros...
IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL THE CREDITS ROLL ON CHAPTER 7

If any of the heros die I will not play

>>714333148
They can be whatever you want them to be, hun

Toby changing the equip scene only worsened the reaction. If it was left unchanged it wouldn't be as bad.

>>714333201
tl;dr

>>714330210
>Asriel Dreemur
>serial murderer
>Asriel
>Israel

>spamton = postman

>>714333225
If it is a legitimate last minute solution, it is a damn good one and honestly feels much more rapey than the rose
the combo might be a good contender as well >>714333012

>>714333289
It's probably meant for everyone in Hometown, seeing as how her disappearance has casted a shadow over the place ever since it happened.
It's why everyone looks to and reveres Asriel as the star child of Hometown, unintentionally putting everyone else in the dark, because they don't want to lose their other shining hope of the newest generation to reach adulthood.

>>714332743
>>Ralsei depicts himself with flames hovering around him even in his own telling of the prophecy
The actual prophecy depicts the third hero that way. Whether it's Ralsei or not is up for debate.

If Undertale is running on hopes and dreams then what is Deltarune running on?

>>714332270
I need a source

>>714333210
toblerone is not getting canceled /v/ro, sorry about that

>>714333440
Prophecy and Raging against fate

>>714322873 (OP)
that ain't falco

>>714333341
>>714333197
>>714333145
fuark...

I CANT DO ANYTHING!!!!!
>has a heart attack

>>714333225
It also looks a lot like the red crack when Flowey erases your save file, tying into the WRONG SAVE thing
It genuinely feels like it was intended and planned and if he had that in the initial release, I would've fully believed it was

>>714333512
Just stop making excuses about it. It's fine to simply not care, you don't have to go out of your way to defend it.

Why is Kris blue tho

>I'm the final boss of DELTARUNE
>I get to say "EAT SHIT FAGGOTS" before my ultimate attack pattern
>Say something nice about me

>>714333440
DESPAIR AND NIGHTMARES

>>714332494
post proof

>>714332843
>sopping wet doe cunt in your face

>>714333418
>Kris = Risk

>>714333606
THAT'S MY ATTACK
NYEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH!

F R E E D O M M O T I F

AHHHHHH

>>714333205
I think he's swallowing it until he passes out

>>714333440
Sentimentality. It's why Lightners like Susie care for Darkners, and it's why we care about the Lightners, even though they're effectively Darkners to us because they "aren't real."

>>714333606
>>714333684
Papyrus drowned him in the lake

>>714333682
>Susie = Issue

>>714333612
If Toby drops the eat shit faggots bomb in Deltarune then I will commission a life size bronze state of the Annoying Dog

https://youtu.be/18qOstKfUBA

He who thought he had freedom
He who fought for freedom
Gives freedom
Has actual freedom

>>714333225
This, the rose was honestly too cliche. First thing that would come to mind whne you think "imagery of character losing innocence". It's also too outright sexual, but these threads would have called the scene rape no matter what anyway because we're degenerates.

>>714333289
>wants to make her happy
>abandons her for years
Was he stupid

>>714332494
Haha yeah..

>>714333694
>freedom motif = temmie doof fr
Tobby........ what does it MEAN.....

I would run dess over in 1000 save files to ensure the timeline is safe

>>714333694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsXXKQ_nl30

>>714333723
The apex of my fetish.

>>714333818
Jevil is free actually

>>714333923
>t.

>>714333949
>Air Waves
How Angelic

>>714333857
He definitely still cares for her but feels massively guilty about whatever went down to the point that he probably just can't even bring himself to approach her. Guilt fucks with you like that.

If I see Dess then I’m going 150mph at least.

>>714330440
Gooner Vessel.

>Gets comforted by childhood friend once
>Instantly makes a move
Susiebros...

>>714333694

>>714333430
and then...they'll lose asriel because kris will KILL HIM

>>714333804
>Mr. "Ant" Tenna = Eat an Ant

>>714334119
Kris is her first and true love. Susie is just teenage lust

>>714333804
>Ralsei = Isreal

>>714333612
>cutscene starts, starts getting emotional
>sudden cut
>"You don't have to tell me what happened, but you do have to eat all the eggs."
>you pull out the boiled eggs
>muffled Gaster shrieking in the distance

I see a lot of people simping Dess lately.
I just want to remind everyone that pre 3+4, when most people didn't even think about Dess, I on these very forums declared Dess as my exclusive wife, whatever her design might be.
For my faithfulness, I was rewarded with hard confirmation of tomboy punk rock Dess.
And she is all mine.

>Kris will never experience this thanks to Susie being a dyke

I wonder if there is a Kris route where you do all the things Kris would do.

>>714334119
>Susie is supposed to be both Dess AND Kris replacement
Noelle was just settling.

>>714334273
Bro she woke him up with her foot she'd do this even as just as afriend

>>714334174
If Diddy can get off then Asgore has a chance.

Kris doesn't need a bitch like noelle

>Jevil is locked in a cage but believes himself to be free
Playing the weird route makes you believe you have freedom, but you're still just as much of a slave to the prophecy as normal. "Broken off, but still locked."
>Spamton manipulates you into getting something he wants to gain freedom, but when he gets it, he's still controlled by his strings anyway
Manipulating Noelle to get the shelter key or Twisted Sword or whatever will not lead to freedom either.

In light of this line, do you think Ralsei intentionally "does his makeup" beneath the glasses like we see in that chapter 2 sprite?

>>714334447
The truth is, freedom's a sham. Even the deities of this world, Gaster and Annoying Dog, are mere demiurges shackled to the true God, Toby himself, incapable of making their own decisions, even though Deltarune is "Gaster's creation."

>>714334447
Using Noelle will get you freedom, but at a cost so great it's probably not worth doing.

>>714334573
This is what the scene was when I played weird route and I honestly feel like it significantly dampened the experience compared to if it had been either the flower or the snowflake.

>>714333726
I was thinking about how Darkners aren't simply anthropomorphized objects, but also the personification of the sentiments we attach to them; they're the memories, feelings, and ideas we associate with certain objects. Hence why a laptop can be an overbearing motherly ruler figure instead of just a computer, or a CRT TV can be an insecure, traumatized showman instead of just an old TV

>>714334453
it's just to show the expression he's making its not that deep

>>714334251
Well done anon, well done

>>714328646
indeed, you can't, it moves on its own

>>714334573
so what is it (when you think of noelle)

>>714334723
I think you misunderstood what I'm saying. I'm asking if Ralsei chooses to have eyeliner or if he just naturally looks like this.

>>714333116
Based

>when you cut Spamton's strings he "dies"
>when Susie unplugs the controller from the video game MiniKris disappears
Yeah he's gonna fucking die if we ever switch vessels isn't he

>>714334828
MORE MAKEUP

Hyperfixation is ending... may actually move on

unironically for over the decade I've been in this wretched fandom I cant stop myself from thinking about what Humans were like during the war of the Monsters. I dk why but something about that magic scyth just tickles my eternal 15 year old brain every time I see it

>>714334573
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA SAVE ME GASTER'S FRIEND

>>714334453
I like that Ralsei is genuinely a little vain and proud of his appearance despite everything, it's good characterization

>>714334869
>you were used up
yeah

>>714334828
The pink highlight is diabolical. He's so gay. Sometimes I still can't believe this is a real asset in the game.

>>714334643
Deltarune only exists because Toby wanted to turn his crackpot fever dream ending of a game that didn't exist into reality.
That's the sole purpose for this world's existence. Its ending. It's baked into its prophecy, so even on an in-universe level, those in the know are aware Deltarune only exists for the sake of its ending. Whether the one set in stone, or the alternate ends Toby so graciously allows you to pursue as to give meaning to all of your choices.
But at the end of the day, it's still a product defined by its ending, rather than any other details.

>>714334869
i don't think he'll die but i think he'll be literally "used up" in some way if deprived of the soul, he rips the soul out to sleep for reference so he can last a fair while without the player's soul

>>714331831
I'm sorry anon, it's over for Onionsan

>Pippins
>Pipis
Hmmmmhmm

>>714334805
blood

>>714334119
This scene gave me a boner

>>714334453
there should be a route where you make him put the hat back on, he looks like complete shit without it
an entire chapter where all of kris' ACT commands get replaced by "insult ralsei" until he hides his ugly ass face again

I hate dess

>>714329865
I know I did

>>714334279
>Stay in bed
>Stay in bed
>Stay in bed

>>714334967
what did onionsan do to get in gaster's hitlist

>>714334904
Happens to the best of us, see you at Chapter 5

>>714334573
Hm..

>>714334869
Kris will have his strings cut at the end of the game and begin to die, but Susie will use ultimate heal and save him

>>714335000
Toby probably would've done this if he was seething like 10% more about people preferring Hatsei
>"I was just gonna have the coat rack say the hat's gone forever, but I'll just make it so you have to treat Ralsei like shit to get him to hide his face again as a commentary on you hating my design, eat shit faggots"

>>714334279
This'll be what you get when you start a fresh save on Chapter 7, something so rooted in "Kris being Kris" that you have no true foothold anywhere, not even in battles.

>>714334251
You can have the punk deer dess a long as I get weird knight monster dess.

>>714334910
It's pretty funny that Toby decided "actually humans can't use magic" and just didn't give a shit about changing anything from the opening/backstory to account for this
It's definitely an underexplored subject, I understand that everyone is way more attached to the characters than the setting but I'm not aware of any significant fan works about the Imprisoning War

>>714335152
i don't think you can heal that

>>714333627
Like these?

>>714335175
>chapter 0 is just the entire game on autoplay

>>714335186
The way the white part of the Knight's head/helmet(?) seemingly shifts between being an eye and being a mouth really gives me amalgamate vibes

>>714334828
i really hate this sprite.
I feel disgust looking at it.

>>714335175
why even play the game at that point faggot
i'd much rather go read an actually good visual novel
i'm glad you're not toby fox

*suck* *suck* *suck*

>>714335243
fuck you whore.. fuck you noelle..... fuck

>>714335075
>Kris sleeps to skip right to the gameplay
very based

>>714335231
Susie can heal the insides. She will heal his real soul

>>714335186

>>714335243
>wants personal space
>does this shit

>>714334279
>Eat pie
>Drink Chocolate milk
>Cut self
>Cry from trauma
Yeah nah his route sucks senpai

>>714335087
He wasn't... "very, very wonderful"

>>714333949
>Freedom leimotif because we the audience are finally free from Mike speculation

>my exact face when I saw berdly get frozen into a permanent brain dead coma

>Neither Asriel or Dess have even been shown on screen
>It's a straight ship
>Highly gay Deltarune fandom is PUMPING out Dessriel art
How the fuck did Toby do it man.

>>714335419
Why didn't he just explain to Noelle that the person who isn't supposed to hear her talking about the thorn is literally something that possesses his body so she wouldn't get all confused
Is he stupid?

>>714335323
HOLY [Cungadero]
CAN I GET THE [Secret Sauce]

>>714335464
STARWALKER?!

>>714326659
Snowgrave makes him a mini-boss before Noelle. And by Miniboss, I mean 'True Hero Undyne' level of difficulty as his soul is twisted like the Roaring Knight into a Frost Lich

>>714335323
welp time for some does

>>714335495
Anon as a Faggot and a Dessriel shipper I can just tell you that Dessriel is just the average straight t4t relationship if both participants arent cringe ass fail trannys

>>714335532
the whole point is not letting her know about shit like that

>>714326659
The blue bead is Kris, actually
Confirmed by Kris getting the title "Dark Bead" in snowgrave

>>714335310
It's either that or the immeasurable undertaking of Toby going back and creating alternate versions of every single chapter where, in an ending where all seems lost, and Kris couldn't fulfill his promise, following an agreement between (You) and him once you finally come to communicate and understand each other, (You) allow him to have full agency over his words and actions while you help out where you're needed, and the two of you reset to start over, now allies instead of constantly being up to Looney Tunes Bullshit with each other, creating major diversions since he now not only knows what the future holds, but can do whatever the fuck he wants to try and achieve his goals.
Because as things currently stand, there's plenty occasions where you're FORCED to make decisions Kris wouldn't make, which is why no matter how good you are letting him live his life, he'll always be a pissrag that hates you, especially with regards to shit like learning how to get in the bunker, which he adamantly DOES NOT want you to do.

>>714335532
She can't know because it would probably mess her up just as bad as the whole snowgrave stuff.

>>714335087
Got too close to the truth. Was gonna tell you about the song from the sea.

>>714332897
I love it when artists draw Kris hot

>>714335000
His sprite looks better without the hat, but his text box image looks better with it.

>>714335532
>doesn’t want her to get involved/hurt
>she’ll try to stop whatever his plan is
>plot needed to continue so Toby had to write it like this
Pick one

>>714335495
Not only that but Asriel is commonly seen as the gayest homo to ever faggot in the fandom and they do it anyway
How is Dessriel so strong?

>>714335551
This secret conspiracy stuff is starting to piss me off.

>>714335204
My headcanon has always been the mages and magical warriors among the humans were ones that took boss monster souls

AAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE

>>714335793
Similar to Krusie, the latest chapters painted a very strong case for why Asriel and Dess were tight as fuck with each other, even to the point where they literally smoked weed together.

>>714335793
>Not only that but Asriel is commonly seen as the gayest homo to ever faggot in the fandom and they do it anyway
thats just because of the furries who want to fuck him

>>714335532
>we can't talk about what happened last night
because
>your mom summoned a demon to possess my SOUL because we need their divine Light and DETERMINATION to fulfill The Prophecy and save the world, and also your sister who is still alive by the way but she's a giant insane shadow monster now
or
>it was a prank bro don't worry about it

>>714335283
Same but it's the sort of gay disgust I can only relieve by facefucking him with constant eyecontact, you know?

>>714335204
i mean too be frank the whole monster war feels like a Mythic/Fable esq event. it probably occured in pre historical times. I can fully see humans just *fogetting* how too magic since then. its not like it matters in the long run anyway

>>714335262
The hilt and handle of her swords in that sword missile attack looks an awful lot like the wings from Reaper Bird too

>>714326292
UT/DR is unironically way more popular with Latin Americans than the Japanese.

>>714331656
The more important question, is she an AKfag or ARfag?

>carol summons a demon(soul)
>noelle summons a demon(FRIEND)
When are we gonna get the reveal that Dess and Rudy also summoned demons?

>>714336085
ayuda por favor

>>714336083
God the amalgamates were such a fucking trip. I wonder how Toby plans to top them in Deltarun

But who was phone?

>>714336085
just like Dragon Ball!

>>714333617
I need to fuck December

>>714336130
Nightmares

>>714336130
With FRIEND as an Endogeny and the Knight having elements of amalgamates themselves we're in for some sprite-mixing coolness

>>714334942
All his other characters have been gotten sexualized with no extra effort.
But with Ralsei, Toby really WANTS us to notice how damn cute he is no matter what. It's his way of including another gay character in the game, (you) the player.

>>714334760
I can't believe she's actually a weed smoking girlfriend.

>>714336184
The Knight also has the same creepy laugh as FRIEND
>Character with multiple Amalgamate elements has a direct link to the motherfucker based on Endogeny

>>714336085
>>714336145
kekaroo!

>>714336287
No homo bro

>>714336137
Not Gaster.

At this point I'm thinking the person on the phone had to be The Knight or FRIEND. With both of them fully working together on this whole Shadow Crystal thing.
It makes no sense for Gaster to be going to Jevil and gassing up the Knight or giving Spamton business advice till he signed a contract with someone else. But it'd fit perfectly with FRIEND doing that stuff in "service" to the Knight with them both planning to fuck over Gaster's whole system on the side by pushing the heroes towards FREEDOM.

>>714336418
I think the Knight is either being controlled or manipulated by FRIEND, there's too much linking them

>>714336287
This comic would be bad but Berdly showing up to say no inverts it to a 10

>>714336391
FUARK

>>714336418
nothing but garbage noise
checkmate libral

>>714336156
Gee, dess... easy on the milk and cookies.

>>714336391
My FUARKing HEROES... Oh and those 2 guys helping the villain.

>>714335532
She can't keep her mouth shut about one slightly strange explanation, what makes you think she wouldn't do something crazy if you/Kris actually explained what happened in full?

>>714336391
there's my HERO... always there when I need him most...

>>714326659
>berdly is the death/scythe enemy
>because he literally died
would be kino

>>714336287
Ralsei would never say that phrase out loud, you're gonna have a hard time trying to make him say anything lewd even when it gets his dick hard.
I'm glad Berdly is canon accurate though.

>>714336262
There's the thematic Amalgamate idea of FRIEND apparently being the result of Noelle killing loads of eggs in an extensively modded pet simulator game too, before it got fed up and became an egg it wouldn't let her delete and which hatched into some invisible mystery-creature she never saw again

>>714336646
The garbage noise isn't Gaster either, it's FRIEND.
>mus_smile
>SMILE
>plays at the bunker where Dess likely went missing following FRIEND's pointed tail
Oh but it played in Entry 17? It's because Gaster made FRIEND when he created a dark world.

>>714336418
Reminder that The Knight explicitly never set foot in the Cyber World
Reminder that Spamton's Shadow Crystal was inside the NEO body all along, and it was created from Mettaton pouring his Determination into it

>>714336945
I agree with this theory but I don't think Gaster "made" FRIEND, I think FRIEND is some terrible entity who spans different worlds

>>714336945
But creating a Dark World doesn't create anything.
In fact you can't create a Dark World at all, it always exists underneath the Light World. You can only create fountains which "release" the Dark World into the Light World.

mwah mwah

>>714337031
>>714337037
That part might've been wrong but the point regardless is that FRIEND was in Gaster's dark world, and was the source of the garbage noise in Entry 17.

>>714337031
FRIEND is a DEVICE
FRIEND being created by "Gaster" (the person who made Deltarune.exe) is basically the only thing we know for certain about it

>>714337080
Agreed
Can't wait for that nigga to get up to shit in ch5

>>714334828
I thought ralsei was supposed to be a guy?

>>714336945
I think friend was more likely to have been made the way it's described to have been created in Noelle's game ("I was born" in the mike minigame)
Maybe gaster *found* a friend in the dark

>>714336767
>Ralsei would never say that phrase out loud, you're gonna have a hard time trying to make him say anything lewd even when it gets his dick hard.
Oh, but I will try

Berdley is awful but I love him

>>714337161
I read that filename as indicating that friend is on the same "plane" as gaster, personally

>toby plants so many seeds of ultra-vague lore that he successfully makes his fanbase schizophrenic about a smiling face with asymmetrical eyes colored in MS paint's default pink and yellow
How does he do it

>>714336418
Gaster is the one who is interested in you breaking the prophecy (that he made), he literally says that he wants to make "a new future"

>>714337291
Genuine writing that gets people attached to his characters and worlds

>>714336207
Yes and Asriel cried when he first smoked weed with her because smoking weed is what bad kids do.

>>714337398
i wanna fuck that stupid faggot so much its unbelievable

>>714335323
more puppy kris is required

>>714337291
Because it's NEVER just throwing random shit at the wall
There is ALWAYS a thread to pull

>>714337172
>Field of Pink and Gold
We're absolutely getting a bunch of FRIEND lore there, probably mainly in the secret boss questline
I wanna learn that little fuck's deal.

>>714335532
>Kris what the FUCK are you talking about you schizo spaz, I'm telling your mom so she can send you back to therapy

>>714337031
>gaster is the royal scientist, we can assume from that that he was interested in creating a way to break the barrier
>finds out about dark fountains somehow
>finds FRIEND while experimenting with them
>gets more deranged with his experiments as he tries to find out how he can use the fountains to free monsters
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkd3lU4-y0M

>>714325428
>>714325919
>>714329146
Something that's been suggested before now is that Susie has the power to shut down your choices as a character. There's already that running gag of your being presented with a choice only for Susie to interrupt. She outright prevented the choice between having her or Ralsei as your party member during the City part of Chapter 2. And one of the first things she ever tells you near the start of the game is that your choices don't matter. And yes you clearly are meant to read into that.

This "Susie Filter" may be an extreme example of this choice shutting down power in action.

>>714337269
Man I wanna have him tell me in explicit detail how dirty and vulgar gay sex is while I touch his ass with my dick, but I'm not sure if even that would make him utter out the phrase "gay sex" out loud.

>>714337398
>>714337441

>>714337291
You need to understand that Toby has known Deltarune's story for like 14 years and thinks about all of his work holistically. That's where the the patterns come from, from the music to the sprites to the story to the setting. The end is accounted for from the beginning.

>>714337686
When you look at it from that angle, it's like she's trapping your SOUL in a box for a moment

>>714337774
I wonder if FRIEND is specifically from Toby's fever dream ending
"creepy fucked up cat thing with a really wide distorted body and pink and yellow eyes" sounds like something you'd write down from a dream

FUUCK this automatic spam filter bullshit
I want to post an ao3 link to my new favorite fagslop and it worked an hour earlier but now it doesn't???? Fuck off

>>714325713
That the world itself is breaking and not just kris

>>714337935
Delete the dot and tab the rest down a line

>>714337935
Ralsei is Real

susie time loop theories are gonna leave me on suicide watch

>>714337017
Yeah people seem too caught up on the idea that crystals are just being given to these characters.

>>714334910
A monster helped them

>>714338064
archiveofourown
org/works/67010719
>>714338065
he'll be a real boy one day, trust
My uncle works at Toby Fox

>>714338095
she just wanted to bring her friend back...

>>714325428
The way the rain completely stopped in that part reminded me of Death Note
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWCBBnxr3i0

>>714337738
i wanna watch them fuck so bad

>>714337774
It's like what people think One Piece is

Looks like I'm just in time!

>>714334453
>>714334931
Where do you get this dialogue? Not watching Susie?

>>714335972
haha yeah that would be crazy

>>714338486
yup