BUT THE SHILLS SAID THE GOVERNMENT WAS JUST GOING TO IGNORE SKG

And what did they say?

>>715235195
"We will ignore it".

>>715235407
>We will talk about thing and then proceed to do nothing
Just another day in Euro politics.

Hunted the down the source, I don't think the person answering has much information on it but it does sound like they are looking at it, neat.

>trannys petition to lobby the government to ruin gaming
ferret fucker was right

>>715235726
ok bootlicker

>>715235101 (OP)
Nobody cares not video games

>>715235818
>Stop Killing Games
it’s right there in the name anon

>>715235101 (OP)
>anything but the refugee crisis
White women love big refugee cock that much huh? I don’t blame em. Tiny white peckers can never satisfy

WE DID IT REDDIT!

>>715235849
The difference is in the case of SKG it's a win win. The worst thing that can result from this is nothing changes. If it makes making multiplayer games aids then that's a good thing and more developers will be inclined to either fuck off or make single player games

>>715235870
Any movement shit will turn into unrelated bullshit

>>715236007
>>715236009

>>715235849
Wtf is that comparison?

>>715235574
Yes, just like how they did nothing about Iphone chargers. Or consumers having the ability to sell software licences they're not using anymore. Or medication having Super Cancer in it. Oh wait.
>>715235726
>ruin gaming
How?

>>715236051
The OP is literally a reddit screenshot
Why don't you go there and talk about how important this movement you didn't care about until an eceleb told you to care about it is

>>715235101 (OP)
Wasn't it specifically said that the reason behind such massive pushing on /v/ was because it'll force the EU government to take a look at it after reaching a certain threshold? I don't think anybody thought it'd just be ignored completely but that it'll just have nothing come from it.

>>715236038
>>715236139
>The difference is that in this case I know what I'm doing because I'm a hardcore gamer!

>>715235849
How the fuck did that retard win the civil war and become a Dictator?

>>715235849
How is telling corporations to stop being so jewish with live service going to "destroy the whole system"?
Would you be so angry if Steam announced their refund system or if GoG came out with their DRM free policy today? Answer honestly.

>>715236145
Seething Jeet.

>>715236151
Most people saying nothing will happen are American. In America, petitions like this are largely ignored because our country is more than happy to bend over for corporate cock, and the government is more than happy to let it happen. Most Americans don't realize there's more to the world than just America.

>>715236145
I cared about the movement instantly because no one ever really did anything about always online shit for over a decade at this point.
Also get a more respectable job than this, pajeet.

>>715236231
Way to completely ignore the argument shill kun. Nothing negative can come from this.

>>715236254
Because the ROC was fighting the japanese while the commies hid in the mountains and waited. Then when WW2 ended Russia gave the ccp billions of dollars of tanks while the ROC had nothing due to fighting the japanese

>>715236254
He literally just kited his enemy and bribed poor farmers to join him/not give food to the whitefags until they gave up

>>715236271
>How is killing the sparrows eating our fucking grain going to "destroy the whole system"?

>>715235101 (OP)
thanks for the link, retard. this totally happened.

>>715236231
post your phone home screen

>>715236254
The only reason commies historically won anything is because retarded liberal democracies help them win against the big bad fascists.

>>715236407
He promised gibs to the poor and equal rights to women then when he won he let the poor starved and mass murdered the women (70% of those who died during the great famine were girls)

>>715236451
Get a real job. Defending corporations online is embarassing.

>>715236451
Based SKG is going to destroy AAA trash industry

>>715236231
and here we have a jew comparing shitty live service scams to natural ecosystems. why dont you go live in a cardboard box so you can understand nature? hahahaha!

SKG is Net Neutrality 2.0

>>715236451
Total AAA holocaust

>>715235849
>This didn't work because it caused a locust population explosion
>The anti-rat/mosquito/fly policy kind of paid off
What exactly is the negative consquence analagous to the locust in this comparison? Even shittier business practices than always-online GAS shit?

>>715235726
>jeet response
>jeet image

>>715235101 (OP)
Based.
I have nothing further to add.

Jeet cope went from it's not going to pass 1 million to it's not going to get looked at

>Buy book
>Take care of it because of natural wear and tear being a thing
>Can read it as long as I take care of it

>Buy a vidya
>Only work I need to do to take care of it is backups because it doesn't suffer natural wear and tear
>Publisher can have a say whether or not I can use it despite taking care of it
Make it make sense.
>It wasn't feasible to control physical media the same way
You sick fuck.

>>715236636
There are people in this very thread who want to destroy live service games and seem to instinctively understand that SKG might do this. That's not the intended purpose, though. The person who started the petition wants to preserve his favorite live service game.

>>715236809
If we change the law they won't give me my campaign funds to win re-election

>>715236809
you can't make copies of books either retard

>>715236882
As long as you don't distribute them, you actually can, depending on your country's laws.
Besides that, backing up data is just recommended for general use, laws be damned.

>>715236882
You absolutely can. You just can't distribute or sell them without facing legal punishment.

>>715236882
Yes you can you fucking retard. It's called a photo copier/scanner. You can buy them cheap

>>715236818
Thats fine. I just want forced always online jewry to be stopped. If you want to make a multiplayer focused game with seasons, battlepass and whatnot, give me the ability to play offline.

>>715236140
EU is forcing publishers to let users sell licenses for games they're done playing?

>>715236882
Yes you can retard

>>715235101 (OP)
They probably were going to ignore it.
It was a silly little petition from gamers.

Then stupid corpos decided to make a lobbying group to fight it.
At that moment it became a serious issue to politicians, as if it was a silly little petition, surely big corps wouldn't spend millions lobbying against it. Hoisted by their own petard.

>>715236038
No, I'm inclined to believe this is far from a win-win situation. The absolute worst that can happen here is some kind of compromise where legislation is passed, with exemptions. Can you imagine how bad things will get if every new game features a type of game design you hate only because a law says liveservice games must feature this to be compliant?

And the feature I'm talking about isn't end-of-service off-line patch like you want.

Just to name an example. I absolutely loathe F2P gatcha games and I certainly believe those types of games should all be destroyed. I certainly see no value having these games covered by this type of legislation. Now imagine what happens if this passes, but with an exemption to allow f2p gatchas to be closed whenever. You end up with a clause that basically guarantees that every liveservice game henceforth will have gacha mechanics. We will have gained nothing, and assured all games becoming significantly worse.

Now I'm sure you can conjure up any number of ways in which your legislation isn't going to cause the above situation, but my point stands:
This is far from a win-win situation. I'd reckon it's more of a all-or-nothing kind of deal. We either get the legislation exactly as it's being proposed, or nothing comes of it. Nothing could be worse than having half-baked compromise or exemption.

>>715236745
Then fuck off

>>715236983
As far as I know it was for actual premium software
I heard it applied to windows keys too but I'm not sure if that one was legit

>>715237019
Request declined.

>Majority of people vote for something
>It's ignored

What happened to democracy?

It's being discussed on EU television

>>715237005
Problem being is that the EU has shown ire for gacha mechanics, now forcing to show the chances of opening certain characters and on top of that recently forcing to show what the real world equivalent currency is for that. You can say this isn't enough and you are correct, but gacha games are on the EU radar and if this keeps escalating it might affect them heavily.

>>715236254
Because he was a good General and played to win the war. While his opponets were bad Generals and played to end the war.
Also he kept killing all of his opponents inside the communist party to keep unity of command and vision. While his enemies were fractured into a hundred small groups with each having their own agendas and commands.

He was good at war, but knew nothing about
governing.

>THE PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR REGULATION...
>AND THE COMMISSION WILL ANSWER!

>>715237005
>Make shitty gacha elements rather than pay2play micro transaction hell
Honestly an improvement since I would just completely ignore it

>>715236818
That line of thinking makes sense, though. Live service games are maintained indefinitely until deemed no longer profitable enough to warrant keeping the servers alive, no company will want to release a game where they may risk having to maintain it at a loss indefinitely, ergo there will be a substantial reduction in live service as a business model because the risk associated will skyrocket. Even if we account for meeting the basic requirement of a game with enough content to run entirely offline once service has ended, that's still a whole extra overhead that the pusestring holders won't like. What we might start to see is a variant business model which runs as live service with a baseline offline mode but who the fuck knows if that will be deemed profitable enough for publishers and investors.

>>715237162
based EU.

>>715236882
Retard

>>715237004
Are you telling me this shit got hit with the Streisand Effect? That's fucking hilarious.

Eurobros, I heard this got mentioned on tv in a couple of countries, which ones? My usual search engines aren't giving me shit.

>>715236353
>Then when WW2 ended Russia gave the ccp billions of dollars of tanks while the ROC had nothing due to fighting the japanese
Lolwut? The KMT far outgunned the communists, including an actual airforce, tanks and artillery that the communists did not have.
The real answer is how monumentally incompetent the KMT were, internal American reports during WW2 specifically talked about how a bullet in the hands of the communists did more damage to the Japanese then ten in the hands of the KMT because of how hilariously retarded they were at war.
Somewhere between heaven and hell there is a huge circus in the sky for the soul of Kai-shek

>>715237365
Chinks being retarded as usual

>>715236140
Because the small indie ma and pa video game companies with 2 employees that also produce ambitious online-only massively multiplayer games will be forced to drag and drop the executable they run on their server into a .zip file and then post it on the internet. Or worse - they'll have to stop adding online-only requirements to single-player games.

Utterly ruinous. How can video games survive?

>>715237157
>He was good at war, but knew nothing about governing.
That era of politics had a few examples of that, Churchill was infamously terrible at peacetime government which is part of the reason why Attlee got in so easily.

>>715237365
Russia gave CCP billions on equipment while the USA boycotted the ROC

>>715237365
Soviet Union occupied Manchuria after entering war with Japan.

When they left and gave Manchuria to Communist China, Soviet Union conveniently left shitloads of stockpiles of equipment for them to use.

>>715236271
It's quite the opposite.
If the system is destroyed by this, it's because it deserved it.
You can plainly look at the past 15 years of the industry and see the obvious shift from hand-crafting products to churning out garbage jpeg casinos. Games were once designed by artists and programmers, now everything comes from corporate suits. Psychologists are brought on as consultants to find the most efficient ways to get people addicted and trapped in timesinks that they're incentivized to pay their way out of.

SKG won't do anything to indies and AAs that just want to make games. SKG is a shock to the system of megacorp publishers that want to do as little work as possible and coast off of cartoonishly exploitative practices that frequently get smacked down in other entertainment industries.

>>715235195
"Delete this!" cried the brand champion into the void.

>>715237586
>while the USA boycotted the ROC
Stilwell was right.

78k signatures for guaranteeing the safety of the initiative
will we break it?

>>715237090
Because think of the poor lobbying groups. They will now send 100s of people telling EU politicians how gaming will be dead if they act according the petition

>>715237834
Certainly. It only needs 4k a day to reach that and the last week will have a bump.

The pathetic flailing of all the shills in every thread is the best proof that this WILL work.

>>715236307
The american being unable to understand that corporation overreach is at least as bad than government overreach regarding freedom of people was always wild to me.

>>715237852
>money that could've been used in conquest has to be diverted towards palm greasing and shouting matches because some autist couldn't keep his trap shut
Grim

>>715236307
The rest of the world is largely poor thanks to stupid policy. If Britain became a US state, it would be the lowest-income state.

>>715237834
given that 80% of signatures are fake, we need to actually get to 5M.

>>715235101 (OP)
>Representative democracy
>the people are electing their represents
>the represents doing mostly the stuff that the people are voting for
>americans calling it communism

>>715236231
i genuinely don't even know what comparison you're trying to draw here
nothing is being killed, we're just asking developers to implement an end-of-life plan for their games so that when servers shut down, those games will still be playable by those who purchased the game
if that's enough to make you go bankrupt then I don't know what to tell you other than 'figure out who at your company is embezzling money'

>>715238327
>>the represents doing mostly the stuff that the people are voting for
get real dude

Why should I, as a citizen and a consumer, let an entity that I have no instrinsic ability to hold accountable without government intervention dictate what I can and cannot do with the things I purchase?

>>715238248
Yeah but doesn't the US have a problem with high cost of living that cancels out high income? You can say that's because of stupid Democrat states being stupid democrat states, but I need to look up data as well for the "flyover" states as well

>>715238427
Look at things under PPP

You know what's going to happen, right?
>after counting the signatures, it turns out only 999873 were valid
>you are of course free to try again
>next item

>>715238392
If you would pay attention to european history you would know that after some time european people kill their leaders and politicians if they have enough. Heck, european people are the only people world wide who also acting against jews every few centuries.

>>715238293
Given that your masters are losing, you need a new job.

>>715236882

>>715236139
Killing games and microtransactions are paramount for our earnings, peasant.

>>715238478
>jeets still trying the "it was all bots" narrative

>>715238427
'high cost of living' translates to rental jews siphoning off all the income. This is why all manufacturing is actually done in China.

>but le epic started working from a garage and now a billionaire could be me
>ignore they're all nepo babies and I'm living in a shared flat paying 3000$ a month without even having a shared garage
>I could be le epic billionaire too if taxes are lower to the 1%
>I could have a company and be rich if the workers didn't have any rights, the minimum wage was 0 and worked free extra time

That's the American dream/delusion.
Bonus point:
>I need muh gun if some nigger enters my home and I'll be le epic badass Rambo/DieHard/Hero

>>715238452
I'm just going off of google for this, PPP is equivalent to GDP per capita? That has some faulty measurements to it from a statistical side of things.

>>715238597
Yeah that makes sense.

>>715238248
Instead of average income check median income. Also compare it with cost of living.
You can also count that if you have any disability or come from a low income family you can't make it out in the United States because the CIA will flood your neighborhood with crack and niggers

>>715238327
>government enacts retarded protectionist policies that only favors politicians and friends like every communist dictatorship does
>americans calling it capitalism
They're fucking retarded, at this rate they're going to be stripped of most rights and still try to blame it on the party they don't like (both are the same)

>>715238519
oh yeah
revolution any day now
experts rough estimate is it's happening within fourteen (14) days

>>715238619
Ross is American and so am I. I'll admit some of my countrymen are sour grapes over this but your post reeks of divide and conquer shit.

>>715235726
>gaming judas
No! Thou shalt not put him before Gaming Jesus

>>715238619
>>I need muh gun if some nigger enters my home and I'll be le epic badass Rambo/DieHard/Hero
Nigga certain euro countries have gun ownership and pretty liberal ownership at that, shut the fuck up.

Why do people pretend government regulation isn't the only thing keeping corporations from completely dropping the facade and just raping everyone. Even if you left it up to the states that would still be regulation, but the whole point of a blanket federal regulation is so a corporation doesn't just pick up and move to fucking Idaho or some shit where for whatever reason they're more amiable to being raped.

>>715238807
Because they are paid shills. This is the only tactic they have left

>>715238846
>This is the only tactic they have left
>G**bergate 2.0 in the works
If only you knew how bad things really are.

>>715235101 (OP)
Technically the initiative is still in the gathering of signatures stage(if you are from the EU you should sign it since there is still time). Once that stage is over they will do a review and see what the situation is. The EU government has not started working on the SKG initiative yet, people need to understand that this is an offical process and there is a set order of how things are going to be done. Expecting an opinion from the EU at such an early stage is silly.
>>715235726
>ruin gaming
Shut the fuck up faggot. I've been playing videogames since the 80s. SKG passing and producing laws and regulations reigning in videogame publishers is the best thing that could happen to gaming.

>>715238846
I know, it just pisses me off the whole routine.

>>715238717
Lol wtf does his post have to do with divide and conquer.

>>715238645
>>715238676
Let's make it even easier and compare Britain to Ireland. The median household income in Britain is £38,100 (€44,077). Meanwhile in Ireland it's €58,922.
What's the difference between these two? Ireland is historically less developed, but it now has very low corporate taxes. That's it. Low corporate taxes. But if you try and argue for those in Britain 99% of the population will call you a corporate shill.

>>715238293
It's more like 98%, chinese bot farms are dirt cheap
But even if it gets 50m views it'll still be leftist regulatory bullshit.

>>715239010
>what is tribalbrain antics that the petition is currently being subjected to

>>715238807
Mostly what the other anon said, but also because they take benevolent regulations for granted. They don't think about factors like food safety, the automotive industry, construction, consumer electronics, etc.
None of those industries are perfect in any western nation, but my template is this: think about a given industry in India and compare it to the one in your country.

>>715235101 (OP)
talking is easy but proving the merit of the initiative is impossible. just give up, you cant argue facts and logic against the mega corporations

>>715239087
>skiggers when the donation begging starts
>"What do you mean donations? I thought we signed the petitions and thats all that was required? Why do we need lawyers and a legal team? What do you mean we need to pay representatives for their travel expenses?"

>>715239010
obviously americans can't vote on the initiative but this site is mostly americans and just by playing the bad actor you can piss people off enough to make them start shitposting out of spite

>>715236983
>EU is forcing publishers to let users sell licenses for games they're done playing?
That's not how it works.
The EU is not forcing publishers to do anything.
The EU allows end user of a bought license to resell that license, and the publisher can't do anything about it.

The way EU rulings and legislations work is never by forcing any corporation to do anything(unless they are doing something illegal, in which case they're forced to stop if they want to keep operating in the EU), rather by protecting consumers' rights to do this or that thing that the EU rules it is the consumers' right to do.

As example, the EU didn't force Apple to use USB C, they ruled that EU citizen should be able to use one charging solution for all their electronic devices and that it is their right to not be forced into a standard which is exclusive to only one type of device.
The consequence of this ruling is that all electronic devices sold in the EU must provide EU citizen with the same charging solution regardless of the device, and since most electronic devices use USB C, if Apple wants to keep selling iPhones and Macs and iPads in the EU, they too should allow their EU clients to charge their devices with an USB C cable.

>huge deadly flood in texas
>devastating loss
>government wasn't warning the people
wtf is wrong with the USA?

>>715236009
>>715236145
>>715235726
Hello saar! I'll do the needful I love India and Israel Gal Gadot beautiful!!!

>>715239143
everyone working on SKG is a volunteer and there are already legal experts involved
they're only going to meet in person twice: once to present the initiative to the commission and explain what it is in detail and again some months later to give a presentation to the European Parliament in a public session
as of right now there is no fundraising happening at all

>>715239239
thats pure communism. Why should the government forcing some companies to have a standardized plug just for the consumer?

>>715239039
>owning your videogames is leftist goy
Have you considered suicide?
>no
You should seriously consider it.
>>715236882
How old are you? I want to know. The younger generations have been becoming dumber and dumber but i want to see at which point the process started.
>>715236805
I should look of one of the threads we had last year when they were saying the initiative wouldn't pass 200k.
>>715236051
Fucking videogame publishers and their paid shills.

>>715237005
>eol
>final patch
>game is now dig dug
>enjoy

>>715239378
>communism

>>715239378
Because now i only need one charging cable.

>>715239378
this is an ESL leftist false flagging

>>715235195
these who praise israel will be blessed by lists that dont exist

>>715239378
Wait till you learn how the EU forces companies to comply with health standards in food. The most communist thing ever! Imagine forcing American companies to stop putting poison in their food if they want to sell in the EU! The EU is literally the USSR 2.0!!!

LEAVE THE POOR VIDEOGAME CORPORATIONS ALONE YOU COMMUNISTS!!!

>>715239378
What the fuck else is the government good for if it's not serving my interests?

>>715239143
Good morning xir

>nooo think of the poor corporation
Why are they like this

when is pirate going to kill himself? His discord is getting more desperate by the day posting on here.

>>715239665
The government is their to managing state affairs, military, etc. and not some shit for the people. One of the many reasons why europe never got big like the USA because american people can manage their own stuff and don't need help and care for common things.

>>715239749
Because you're spoiled fag that tries to diminish revenue of the corporations for no reason whatsoever. They didn't do anything to you and you're still seething.

>>715235726
>oh no, not the hecking live service slop!

>>715235574
Wow so edgy!

>>715239795
>The government is their to managing state affairs
shit bait

>>715239749
Corpos are the new houses for the techno feudalistic state. A good serf knows to fight on their behalf without question let alone compensation.

>>715239795
Burger, just stop. You're an embarrassment.

Every game developer just takes the subscription classification instead. Do nothing. Status quo maintained with the only changed is what they call themselves instead like how services now say that you don't own your games but a license to it. This will be the likely outcome unfortunately.

>>715236947
>>715236948
And why can't I?
I own the book, the copier and the paper so I should be allowd to do with it whatever I want.
If you argue against this you are a corpo bootlicker.

>>715239831
>Because you're spoiled fag that tries to diminish revenue of the corporations for no reason whatsoever. They didn't do anything to you and you're still seething.

>>715235101 (OP)
>OMG I CAN PLAY THE CREW AGAIN, THE EU IS SO GOOD
>IT DOESNT MATTER THAT I WILL BE RAPED AND BEHEADED IF I LEAVE MY HOUSE, THE CREW IS WHAT MATTERS

>>715239023
Why don't you check it with the United States as you were talking about? Here's the spoonfed https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA646N
tldr: 42k is the median in the USA, the corporate bootlicking country

>>715235726
trannies are on the side of corporations that put heckin trans rights in their games. they don't want chuds to have private servers

>>715239947
>social weapon fights on behalf of its master
Like pottery

>>715239909
Because it's called the middle ground option.

I'm all about letting games live but SKG is clearly the wrong approach. Forcing regulations upon these game devs is going to make them go for the 'cheap way' out that neither gamers or the people running the games will profit from. Once that is in place, gaming will be off worse while the politicians up top will throw up their hands and call it a day for 'having saved games'.
Gamers and game creators should find a different way to solve this.

>>715239860
>Corpos are the new houses for the techno feudalistic state. A good serf knows to fight on their behalf without question let alone compensation.
America is way too close to Cyberpunk 2077 becoming a reality(just shittier). Videogames like that should stay fiction.

>>715239996
shalom rabbi

>>715239860
Oh the irony
>>715239937
corporate taxes are lower in ireland than in the US

>>715235101 (OP)
YAY SKG SISTERS WE DID IT!!! WE WERE MENTIONED, WITH THAT BEING SAID WHENS THE NEXT DILATION PARTY?

>>715239897
Turning all games into subscribtions will kill 99% of those game. Also GOG exists where all games are DRM free with offline installers. People will simply move to GOG.

>>715239996
>Gamers and game creators should find a different way to solve this.
that's nonsense. the asymmetric power dynamic makes it impossible for consumers to get concessions other than through laws.
when virtually all coporations decide to engage in a bad practice you can't even vote with your wallet.

>>715240078
>Turning all games into subscribtions will kill 99% of those game.
What if they are one time payment subscriptions?

>>715240078

>>715239937
Also that's median personal income, not household you retard. Median household income is 80,610 USD (68,954 Euros)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA646N

>>715240150
>What if they are one time payment subscriptions?
People will avoid them like the plague.

>>715238248
Americans also don't understand there's more to the rest of the world (or europa) than britain

I hope this makes them look into live service games, decide to do nothing about it, but see all of the borderline porn and lolicon and shut that shit down.
The collective seethe from /a/ /v/ /vt/ /pol/ /b/ reddit and israel would be fucking incredible

WE DID IT SISTERS

JUST LIKE THE AVENGERS

XD

GAAAMERS ASSEMBLE

>>715240219
You'll cherry-pick a scandi country while posting from somewhere with much lower incomes

>>715238589
That's not what he's saying. He's saying the EU will say 'oops lol sorry you were SO CLOSE, but we have to throw it away because it didn't meet the cut. No we're not going to explain how we came up with those numbers, goy, they were real in our minds"

>>715239749
please see >>715238717 obvious shill

>>715239841
>Basic observation is edgy

LOL

Has there been an example of an EU initiative being tossed despite overwhelming support in signatures? Genuinely I don't know.

>>715235101 (OP)
Based. Actually unreal that they have to address it. The most invalid votes ever on an initiative was aroud 200 000 so this one is definitely going to be fine with the buffer.

>>715240115
This is why we need the EU to step in. There is unironically a cartel of videogame publishers pushing the industry further into this hellscape. This is the same when lightbulb manufacturers gathered up and decided that instead of competing with better lightbuilbs they should all agree to making shittier lightbulbs together. GOG is probably the only outlier since GOG pushes for DRM free games.

>>715240032
>not EU
>anglo saxon

>>715240257
Why would they say that? They're not the ones verifying the signatures, the individual countries are.

>>715240239
>>715240301
>corpo shills trying to deflect and derail
It's afraid.

>>715240191
>People will avoid them like the plague.

>>715240301
in other words: USA, Russia and Sweden are shit tier countries.

>>715240301
now i get it, you don't care about SKG one way or the other, you just hate euros and americans for fighting a proxy war with you, thus motivating you to try to drive us apart
we really do need to rangeban all of asia already

>You're a bootlicker if you don't want the government putting restrictions on creative works
What causes this level of retardation?

>"If you vote for this, you're a commie!"
>"All the votes are fakes!"
>"Actually nazis likes this, you're a nazi if you vote for this!"
>"Nothing will happen!"
>"It will kill all indies!"
Lmao
Make up your mind shills

>>715240475
Should industrial companies be allowed to hire children as chimney sweepers?

>>715240364
>Why would they say that?
Have you lived under a rock for about half a century?
The EU's motto is 'make people vote again and again, until we get the result we (jews) want'.
If wealthy mysterious unknown people make a fuss about SKG, kikes will make it fail.

>>715240301
>Without Sweden
Why?

>>715238398
they already do this
you're just too stupid to realize

>>715240431
The EU has already decided that these kind of subscriptions are no different from a normal purchase and people that buy them have the exact same rights.
Why do you think Steam has the 14 day return window? Because EU forced them to. The right to return anything you bought withhin 14 days is a thing everywhere in the EU.

>>715240536
because sweden is a 3rd world shit hole and nothing like the rest of the EU.

>>715240531
That's not my question. How is it being a bootlicker to be anti-government?

>>715240512
It's insane
>don't support the enemy, they're nazi communist kikes who wanna kill all jews
Almost makes me nooootice where I've seen this kinda rhetoric before

>>715240580
Because you faggots are only ever anti-government when they go against corporations

>>715240389
>corpo shill acting like SKG sister
Fuck off corpo shill, the avengers are going for you :DDD

>>715240580
>no answer
That means you don't think it should be allowed, otherwise you would have said "yes"
Thanks for conceding that governments need to put restrictions on companies

>>715240590
>SWORE AN OATH ON ISRAEL
> we will replace you with indians
>releasing the epstein list would be destroy the USA

>>715240475
Should construction companies be allowed to use asbestos in their buildings and legally be both not required to tell you about it but also not be responsible for any health effects?
Do you need government to put regulations on place?

>>715240580
if you're anti-government to the point of being ideologically opposed to them doing anything at all then you shouldn't even be posting here

>>715237019
oh, he mad!

>>715240687
Based brand champion

>>715240668
That's closer to a violent crime issue because it causes people who didn't make the decisions physical harm. It's fundamentally different from regulating a consensual videogame production/purchase.

>>715240475
I hope the weekend compenastion at Video Games """"Europe"""" is worth this lol.

>>715235195

I watched the video
The reporter is asking why did they stop talking about some kind of stuff in the genre of video games, and if its because the initiative.

The guy responds that no, we will always support video games and never stop talking about it

>>715240562
>people will avoid it like the plague
>*example of people not avoiding it like the plague*
>no that doesn't count

If the language changes from "buying" a video game to "subscribing" to a video game gamers would just go along with it because the alternative would be to not play video games and you know it.

Can you imagine that you can give birth in a german hospital or go to a dentist and don't have to pay? How can appreciate the service if it's free? And why shoul you go the doctor if you don't really, really need a medical examination (like some serious health problems)?

>>715240475
the restriction being not fucking consumers in the ass? how horrible

>>715235101 (OP)
>government putting this much focus on video games recently
Okay, what did they fuck up and covering up now

>>715235101 (OP)
You fuckers know what's coming if you vote for this petition right? You know the consequences of inviting the government to intervene in the video games, knowing full well and probably lived through the 90s to 2000s where it was full of paranoid and delusional old men trying to dictate the rules and censor the fuck out of everything right? This is going to be even worse than that because now you have those same old men who now see the monetary incentive to fuck shit up and you fuckers are straight up kicking and screaming to come save you.

This won't be the government salvation you guys are hoping for, this won't even be the corpo vs government clash either, this will come entirely at your expense. They WILL fuck your shit up, anyone that has been around long enough knows not to trust the government and it's appalling to me that none of you can see Ross as the glowie that he clearly is. Why else would he go to such lengths to push this shit and throw on a full mask under the guise of caring for destroyed games? Why else has there been such a massive outbreak of supposed ecelebs throwing their weight into this all of the sudden when the natural response was to veer as far away as possible from this clear glowie psy op? They know now that they can get some headway and they've been going into overdrive to push for this and you idiots are falling for it.

If there's any among you that still possesses a brain, I implore you to not sign this shit. Don't give it attention, don't give it any time of day. This shit has so many malicious layers to it that it would be wise to not interact with it at all, and to say nothing on the long term ramifications against the average consciousness should it go through. Do you really believe that you aren't throwing away your personal information for the government to "leak away" in a year's time when this is over?

>>715240580
Because being anti-government regulations is the same as being pro corpo, anti consumer and anti worker.
You know why factories don't maim and kill half a dozen people every day anymore? Because the government put safety regulations in place.
You know why there's no more childlabor in the developed world? Because the government made it illegal.
You know why you don't have to work 18 hours a day and for a cent an hour? Because the government regulated maximum worktimes and minimum wage.

Corporations are amoral, and they will remove saftey, increase work hours, pay you nothing, use slaves and children if nobody regulates their greedy ass. Because profit is all they care about. If they have to kill babies for it they'll do it, just look at Nestle.

>>715240856
I was missing this pasta.

>>715238975
>>G**bergate 2.0 in the works
Is there someone else who'll marry herself?

>>715240881

>>715240856
Why are jews fearing dedicated servers or offline version?

>>715240531
If the child wants that kind of work, sure.

>>715240668
They can, but it would kill their business by scaring off future customers if they get found out, so it's a stupid decision.

>>715240936
Why are Americans so fucking dumb?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day_movement

>>715240936
Why are americans so dumb

>>715240936
Then came the dodge brothers who were looking out for their own coin and made shit worse for everyone by changing the corpo mindset into shareholder appeasement.
God, Dodge v Ford fucked everything.

>>715239378
>communism is when you have rights

>>715240856
You IMPLORE me?

>>715240990
Its so great to see that we are living in your head rent free

>>715240946
because it gives them fewer opportunities to fleece the goyim, and dat's anudda shoah!

>>715241030
You are the one who thinks an American company invented the 40h work week for the entire world, centuries after the rest of the world did

>>715240936
doesn't matter when the dodge brothers got asshurt and made it illegal to take a loss temporarily for more profits in the long run

>>715240856
>bla bla bla government le bad bla bla
take your pills

>>715240990
>>715241006
From your article.

>>715241006
Under Otto von Bismarck germany was the first country with modern workers rights and regulations.

>>715241051
Why are you so poor?

>>715241080
Now read the rest of the article where it says unions lobbied for the 8h day and managed to institute it decades before that

>>715241071
>too stupid to read
Expected nothing else from a european

>>715239378
because as much as capitalism exists everywhere, in EU companies aren't "selling products", they're "providing a service" through their products.
It might seem like a small difference or just a word choice, but there is actually a huge difference:
a company selling a product can focus the entire design of their product to maximize their own interest and to capitalize on the consumer
a company providing a service through their products MUST focus the design of their product around the service that is provided to the consumer, and in the EU what rights the consumer has under the service the products provide are decided by the EU.

A very simple example of this is warranty on electronics:
depending on the type of electronic producs and brand, some have a warranty of multiple years, others of just 1 year or less.
Or rather, that's what the companies selling those product say in their warranty pamphlets, but in the EU, consumers buying electronics MUST be provided with a warranty of at least 2 years, so no matter what the pamphlet in your product says, if an EU citizen buys it, the company MUST provide warranty for at least 2 years.

This has been a thing for decades now, but when it was new, or rather, when companies foreign to the EU wanted to sell their proucts her, it brough a lot of changes in some products which had their warranties of just a few months and which were designed to fail shortly after(use of cheap plastics, joints, slder points, etc), which resulted in a global increase of product quality.

>>715241080
see>>715241087

Americans are dumb. and have no knowledge of common history. all modern workers rights are based on Otto von Bismarcks of the german empire.

>>715241080
nice cherry picking mister corpo shill I will not sign the petiton now saar

>>715235195

>>715235101 (OP)
we're winning

>>715239936
>whataboutism
They're not sending their best.

>>715240936
>ameriblobs actually believe this

>>715241080
>germany 1881 - 1890
>one american company in the USA 1920s
based germans

>>715241224
in being gay

>>715240832
Doesn't matter what the language is. There's no judgement on intent, only on result.

>>715239137
they have to do it
they have to adapt
the time has come
they have the money
they have to rehire people they've laid off
and they have to make it work
Ross demands it
Tick. Tock

>>715241228
It's not whataboutism (that would be "X also has this same problem"), it's appeal to triviality

>>715240936
Actually, French anarchists paved the way for that.

Americans are a slave race

>>715241141
Companies competing naturally creates better working conditions. That's why most people don't make minimum wage. Yes, you can force things through legislation, but that will only cripple your industry if the economic conditions to support it don't exist. And if those conditions do exist, you don't need legislation to accomplish these goals.

>>715241306
says the gayrupean being replaced by muslims lmao

>>715241321
this is the biggest bullshit ever.

>>715241321
>Companies competing naturally creates better working conditions.
In a perfect world yes but this isn't a perfect world and instead you have companies all raising prices at the same time because "what are you gonna do about it faggot?"

>>715240078
>People will simply move to GOG.
Sure thing, i can already see everyone downloading their 100+ GB installers and keep them store in their several 8TB drives, right?
Wrong, most people don't want huge installers to take space on their computers
>inb4 storage is cheap
doesn't matter, most people dont spend and dont wanna spend money on literally tens of TB just to store games INSTALLERS, plus the space for when the games are installed.

GOG is good, for small games, some indie game, old games, but for current standards of AA or AAA games and even some some recent well made high budget indie games, it's completely unfeasable unless you rely on their client, which at that point is no different than having them on steam.

>>715235101 (OP)
> BUT THE SHILLS SAID THE GOVERNMENT WAS JUST GOING TO IGNORE SKG
and they are, the EU is completely dysfunctional
we had an official referendum in 2021 where the overwhelming majority voted to get rid of daylight savings time. guess what, its 2025 and nothing ever happened

>>715241321
Why didn't companies competing with each other stop child labor?

>>715241397
You are confusing Russia with the EU.

>>715241321
Regulation literally exists to preserve competition in the market, retard. The entire point of antitrust.

AHHHHHSECOND PUBERTY BLIZZARD QA NIGGERMANN SAAAAAVEEEE ME

>>715241424
whats wrong about child labour?
in those days the kids would have starved to death if they didnt earn a wage, is that preferable?

>>715241418
Could it be because one half of the eu wants only summertime, while the other wants only wintertime?
Nah, they must all just be lazy cunts.

>>715241398
>>715241409
It's literally what happens everywhere. Same thing also happened in China. First there are sweatshops, and then as incomes rise there is more and more demand for better working conditions.

>>715241247
It didn't stick. See pic-related.

>>715241424
Child labor isn't really voluntary because children lack the mental capacity for proper consent.

>>715240936
imagine being so dumb you think you owned someone with an false fact
oh wait, you dont have to imagine it

>>715241321
Is this why all the big tech firms are now using indian slave labor?

>>715239936
>be american
>get shot
Look, I can pull this retarded shit too!

>>715241524
Wrong. I'm not categorically against anti-trust regulation, but most regulation serves to entrench special interests or is just self-harming.

>>715241576
Low-income labor isn't slave labor. But over time, indian wages will rise just like everywhere else.

>>715241556
there are still fucking sweatshops dumbass

>>715241321
You can say that if you ignore the last 50 years of labor history and the obvious race to the bottom with the majority of the big players adopting the shitty practices if it can save a buck and they can get away with it.

>>715241321
There's no competition in a monopoly.

>>715240150
Then they are by definition not subscriptions, retard

>>715241556
>more demand for better working conditions
aka unions and interest groups making the government regulate the industry

>>715241556
You know what Nazi Germany did? Getting ready for a war = Kriegswirtschaft.

Again americans are dumb, have no understanding and knowledge of history and no reading comprehension.

For your info: the common working hours during the second world war in the USA were 48-60 hours.

>>715241592
>be British
>say mean word on Twitter
>get arrested

Must suck not having a first amendment.

>>715241632
Labor conditions have gotten significantly better in the last 50 years. However, obviously companies jump ship to other countries where conditions are bad so they can get away with more. But that strategy has a time limit as competition for labor in those poor countries gradually raises wages. This is literally what has happened (And is still happening) in China.

>>715240475
Wait, so business practices fall under "creative works" in the US of A?

>>715241397
You are a thrall.

>>715241726
>keeps bringing up chinks
What about Laos, huh? Where's the wage increase in their sweatshops

>ITT
>EU anons proving they know their own history and the history of other countries outside the EU by providing historical articles and verifiable facts
>US anons proving they don't know their own history and making up the history of the EU by relying on false claims, meme images, and easily disproven lies
and this is why we know this petition is important and how we know americans are too retarded to even understand it

>>715235101 (OP)
Not how it works. Because it received enough signatures, EU meps can't ignore it, they have to bring it to the table whether they like it or not. They can still vote NO for any law proposal coming out of it.

>>715241619
>Wrong
Right, actually. If anti-trust regulation didn't exist the first person to lay down infrastructure for, say, telecom, would have unfettered control as well as a permanent market stranglehold, preventing competition ad infinitum.

Why do you commies want to involve the government to dictate what companies can and cannot do? People are smart and strong, if they don't like some practices they will just not partake in them. We had a period of unchecked capitalism and it was the best time to be alive.

>>715241619
>but most regulation serves to entrench special interests or is just self-harming.
Without regulation your eggs would cost 50 dollars a piece, would be full of salmonella and nobody would care if you would get sick from eating them.

>>715241845
so true man

>>715241726
At this rate it'll be a few hundred years before china get to the same wage levels as America and by then, the industry wil have shifted to other countries, leaving China and other previously industrialized countries to slowly decline. I don't see how that's a good thing.

>>715241814
Your leaders flooded your countries with muslims.

>>715241712
Film yourself walking through a city yelling NIGGER and see how that first amendment works out for you.

>>715241412
>some recent well made high budget indie games
such as?

>>715241907
Your leaders flooded your country with niggers and are currently flooding it with pajeets, what's your point?

>>715241907
France's colonial history would've eventually made the reverse flow happen (like we saw in the UK) and Germany... Well that one is true. Everyone else though? Grasping at straws.

>>715241808

>>715241865
And company selling those eggs would go out of business.

You will own nothing and you will be happy! If you want to own your videogames you're a fucking commie! Owning things makes you a commie!

>>715241845
all the freedom we have, all the workers rights we have were fought and people shed their blood for it.

If you don't have pro consumer and pro people regulations and rights you will have again endless civil wars or Bauernkriege in countries.

But somehow the common american being is going full MAGA, praise Israel and import countless of indians to replace themself.

Protip: The guy in my image are the jews.

>>715241918
>eurotrash doesnt understand how the first amendment works
i wont get arrested thats for sure

>>715240150
>What if they are one time payment subscriptions?
>one time payment
>subscriptions
by DEFINITION a subscription is an agreement to pay an amount of money regularly over an indefinite amount of time
by DEFINTION, a one time payment is NOT a subscription.

what you said is like saying "what if cubes where sphericals?" and the answer is they wouldnt be cubes, they'd be spheres

>>715241845
Back in the day in US, stilleries sold their whiskey mash as feed for livestock with fraction of a price for real feed. As a result cows grew sick, their milk turned transparent with poisonous alcohol mixed in. More than hundred of small children had to die before government put a stop to that shit.

>>715242005
Hate speech (i.e. insulting anybody who isn't white) isn't protected speech

>>715241491
Russia always had ten millions of ethnicities and religions in its borders, unlike EU founder states.

>>715241865
>Without regulation your eggs would cost 50 dollars a piece
Regulation is at the heart of the recent high eggs cost, as the government under Biden maliciously killed off millions of hens to make Trump's economy look worse. In general, the US actually has policies of deliberately reducing production to prop up food prices.

>>715242005
No one said that, having rights means nothing if you can't exercise them though

>capitalism as an economic system is simply an enlarged and regulated version of simple survival, where it emulates nature in how it functions
>Communism is an ad-hoc constructed system
Regulating capitalism is literally part of the package, calling regulation communism is like calling ice hot.

>>715242005
As expected, the retarded brownoid burger misses the point harder than he misses not being fat and retarded

>>715242051
They could have voted with their wallets.

>>715241906
China will level off and yes, the production will flow into other countries. It might take hundreds of years, but eventually every country on earth will be more or less developed with equivalent wages, subject to things like environmental conditions and stupider people making less.

>>715242086
literally nothing is stopping anyone from doing what you said. you have never been to the ghetto. drunk ass hobos do that shit every single day and nothing happens to them.

>>715239378
To facilitate forward progress for humanity and not dig ourselves into a million retarded little trenches just so X company can make 5% more profit.

>>715235101 (OP)
>european comission
>government

>>715242057
we do not have hate speech laws. open a fuckin book you gook

>>715242191
>The European Commission is the primary executive arm of the European Union. It operates as a cabinet government

>>715241906
>the industry wil have shifted to other countries,
>>715242161
>the production will flow into other countries.
Already happened, Most of US Silicon Valley companies and japanese car companies have shifted their factories to Southeast Asia instead.

>>715242104
what point? you get arrested for words and i dont.

>>715241814
this

A reminder that every political system relies on a rational population. Even something like monarchism which has a better chance of a rational ruler still relies on a rational population that doesn't cry revolution at every turn. There is no one political system that is perfect, and making arguments for your system using the assumption of a rational population is garbage.

>>715242191
>TheEuropean Commissionrepresents the common interests of the EU and is the EU’s main executive body
It might not be called a government but that's the equivalent function within the EU.

It doesn't matter how much you screech, I will play your gachashit with all the content at EoL for a flat 10€ fee.

>>715242314
>a-a-actually it was about arrests!
>n-n-not about actually being able to say what I want
Go ahead, still waiting for that niggerwalk.

>>715242008
>pay once to be subscribed until eos
>uhhhh nooooo you can't do that

You're really trying to sound smarter than you are.

>>715242360
>Even something like monarchism which has a better chance of a rational ruler

>>715242005
you will get arrested for disturbing the peace

>>715235726
>ruin gaming
5th generation of vidya already happened you cuckold

>>715242578
Are you even allowed to think that word without the police showing up?

>>715242360
>A reminder that every political system relies on a rational population.
the current US political system literally relies on the irrationality of their voters.

>>715238327
EU member states may have representative democracy, but the European Union has nothing to do with democracy. All the democratic processes they use as a smokescreen are designed to be meaningless

>>715242057
you'll probably get killed by a nigger but the US supreme court ruled that hate speech has no legal basis here
hate crimes exist but it's just tacking on extra penalties for motivation to an existing crime like assault, but it does apply both ways; blacks have been charged with hate crimes for attacking white people

>>715242657
You’ve never been to the ghetto have you?

>>715235101 (OP)
The bots will go into motherfucking overdrive over this, kek

>>715235849
Lmao everyone who's against this movement is so slimy and vile

>>715235101 (OP)
KILL ALL LIVESERVICE GAMES
I OWN EVERYTHING AND I WILL BE HAPPY

>>715242651
I said better, not perfect. In theory, if a rational person was to become leader, then they can make a succession of another rational person. It still falls into a pitfall, but it relies more on the chance of one rational ruler vs a rational population. It still can and has historically has been flawed for the exact same reasons.

>>715242675
True, I'm just talking from the side of political theory where people argue their system is correct. No one is going to admit that their system calls the average person retarded.

>>715242605
are you fucking retarded?
im not crying that you cant do that, it's the LITERAL DEFINITION OF THE WORD
a subscription of one paymend does not exist
>pay once to be subscribed until eos
THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT THIS PETITION IS ABOUT, MAKING THE EU NOTICE THAT THEY CANT EOS A NON SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE YOU FULLY PAID IN ONE PAYMENT

fucking crhist, this thread is literally full of ameritards /threading their own replies thinking they owned whoever they replied to while doing so posting literal ignorant false statements

>>715242685
You suburb bitches don’t know shit and only go by what you see on the internet cause you never leave the house. I live smack dab in the middle of inner city phoenix, it’s currently 2:43 am and my neighbors are screaming at each other and nobody gives a fuck cause we mind our own around here

>>715236809
See, the problem here is that under modern political structures and capitalism: Your book was a mistake.
Your book can and should be revoked at will.

They want to make it make sense, and it will, in time. With enough lobbying and buying seats, with a little bit of misinformation posted online.

>>715236038
>If it makes making multiplayer games aids then that's a good thing
God, you people are like SJWs
>this heckin game that's not for me is problematic
>put in all this work to develop it the way I demand you to
>okay, we did that, now will you play it
>no, I never play multiplayer games

>>715240536
Because if you fondle a woman ten times you'll be charged with rape ten times.

>>715242830
>monarchism
>le rational ruler somehow gets to choose le next rational ruler

>>715242830
>True, I'm just talking from the side of political theory where people argue their system is correct. No one is going to admit that their system calls the average person retarded.
>Anon tinaposts
>Anon meets resistance
>Anon tinaposts again but this time with irrelevant statement
I swear, the worst thing is that you got two people to reply to you, and you'll happily argue to the death with them wasting their time. If there was a god, you'd be raped to death right fucking now.

>>715242841
"i live in a shithole" is a strange thing to brag about

>>715242923
SJW's love corporations, so no. Try saying publicly that you don't want to eat the Gay Homo Aids Burger.

>>715242923
I'm sorry that the practice of remote destruction of property will end

>>715242836
Anon, you can pay for a subscription up front.
Just because you do it only once doesn't mean it's not a subscription.

>THAT THEY CANT EOS A NON SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE
That's not what it's about. That would be ridiculous.

>>715242923
Imagine not having mana

>>715243153
You can say that publicly.
You can also say that you don't want Zack Polanski the hypontits (not a typo) Jewish fellow and vegan to be elected leader of the greens too and surprisingly you're only in danger if Keir Starmer, Morgan McSweeney or any of the Labour front bench are in the room with you.
You can get away with saying quite a lot when you're on the left, it's very freeing.

>>715243276
Why do you keep bringing up British politicians nobody has ever heard of in this thread about a EU petition

>dedicated servers
>offline versions
why does make it so many companies and american people angry?

>>715235195
>Yummy another way to fine companies and we can look good on top of it!

>>715235726
>standing on the side of EA, Ubisoft, Embracer, ActiBlizzard and pretending he's the good guy
Go mcfucking kill yourself.

>>715243132
sure but atleast i can say i know what im talking about instead of talking out of my ass like 99% of this thread

>>715243349
Because you are supposed to buy the new thing after they triggered the self-destruct on the old thing

>>715243325
for americans the EU and Europe is the same.
Like for most americans Africa is a country and not a continent.

>>715241907
Your leaders are pedophile rapists up to the very president

>>715242830
>True, I'm just talking from the side of political theory where people argue their system is correct.
that wasn't my point.
>No one is going to admit that their system calls the average person retarded.
my point is that while a government and its political parties can(as in, it's what they do, not that they're legally allowed to do it) use deceptive tactics(pointing at others failures rather than at their own accomplishments) and false promises(we will do this, trust me bro) to convince the average retarded person to vote for them, which is where your statement is true, the US isn't doing that, the US is literally lying about past events and inventing untrue facts and selling all of that as absolute truth to get votes.

>"the other party was never able to fullfil their promises, thats why you should vote for us!"
>"we will do this and that, vote for us!"
these are deceptive tactics and false promises relying on the average retarded person, cause they contain no true lie(it is true the other party failed, and you can't obviously falsify a promse that hasn't had the chance to be kept yet), and realy on a perceived rationale
>"the other party RAPES YOUR CHILDRENS AND THE PROOF IS THAT I AM GREAT AND WHAT I SAY IS ALWAYS TRUE!"
>"i went to the moon the other day and i can confirm there is no flag there, which proves the moonlanding was fake, and while i was there i also looked down at earth and i can confirm it's flat. real americans know this is the truth, vote for me!"
this is what the US does, this is not relying on the average retarded person, this is relying on irrationality and false sense of worth

>>715243276
>Labour
Does he know

>>715235849
>corporations possibly having slightly worse profit margins for a specific type of game?
>this will destroy the whole system
Oh and live service games tend to have insane profit margins as it stands, that's why they make crappy ones all willy-nilly.

>>715242081
>Waaaahh le biden is making our bald orange retard emperor look baf

>>715243396
your experience isn't relevant to what i was talking about
the only black people in arizona are in prison, phoenix is under half the national average for %black

>>715243209
>Anon, you can pay for a subscription up front.
you quite literally can't, show me ONE subscription you only pay once
>Just because you do it only once doesn't mean it's not a subscription.
that is literally the definition of subscription, paying it NOT ONCE but continuously and indefnitely for as long as you want to get the service or for as long as the service lasts

>>715239897
>>715240150
Anon, the EU will come to your house and rape you if you think you are going to maliciously comply yourself out of following the law. You'll feel like someone who openly criticized their immigration policies.

>>715243530
huh thats strange cause half my complex is black. again, you are talking out of your ass cause you dont leave the house and sit on the internet all day.

>>715243530
by your logic then the person yelling nigger would be fine since all the black people are already locked up. what kind of retarded argument is this?

>>715236880
>If we change the law they won't give me my campaign funds to win re-election
The EU is much more stringent in background checks on things like campaign funding than the US.
If you have your campaign running off of funds received from the industry you gave a free pass, you commit political suicide.
Moreover, you run the risk of being charged with collusion, obstruction of the democratic process, etc. and can look forward to jail time or house confinement with an ankle bracelet.

>>715240475
You are licking big corpo boot by pretending to think that them not being able to shut down an old game so they can force you into buying the remake if you want to keep playing it is limiting anybodies creativity.

>>715243592
>pay for one month of netflix subscription
>not a subscription because i paid only once
>EU should now legally force netflix to give me every movie forever

why there is a flamewar between communities in disagreement with one and another when your freedom is at stake just because contrarianism is at play?

>>715243654
how is that retarded? the only people who give a fuck about saying nigger are niggers
that isn't contradictory to anything i said

>>715238327
>Representative democracy
>People electing their represents
You clearly don't know how the EU works and muricans call everything gommunist because 40 years of red craze.

Our world, like it or not, is bound by capitalism and technology. Technology should always be a benefit. When it becomes purposefully regressive or restricted only to help a company profit, that shit needs to be addressed.

This is my main concern with Windows and Microsoft. I fear that as more Indians flood the company, the OS will degrade even worse than it already has been. Windows feature wise should have already surpassed 3rd party apps like Directory Opus when it comes to functionality of their directory/file explorer. Instead they stagnate, and become bloated, making things more difficult for power users that actually use a PC to work, all the while smearing it with shiny buttons that make it appear easier for dumb phone people. The world runs on windows, and I foresee this as a huge problem within 10 years. People are less and less upgrading and that should be raising huge red flags.

>>715243738
Lol

>>715243510
That they're hyper-zionists that have been captured by lobbyists? Absolutely.
>>715243325
What's wrong with that, go on cuntjaws, fess up.
>SJW's love corporations, so no. Try saying publicly that you don't want to eat the Gay Homo Aids Burger.
Was the post it was replying to. That came as unprompted as the hypno tits man and one of them wasn't played out.

>>715243592
>as long as the service lasts
And those generous game devs allow you to get the service until then with a single up front subscritopn of 59,99€.
What a steal!

>>715243738
thanks for confirming you're a retarded
if you pay for one month of netflix, you are getting one month of netflix
you aren't buying a product, you're subscribing to a service for the duration of one payment
a "subscription you only pay once" would be one where you pay once, and then you KEEP RECEIVING THE SERVICE INDEFINITELY WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY ANYMORE

look everyone, another ameritard proving they're retarded and don't even know the words they're using while still thinking they win

>>715243726
This, campaign funding is basically legal corruption in the US.

>>715243854
>That they're hyper-zionists that have been captured by lobbyists?
No, that the britoids tanked their country because the EU is le bad and are no longer relevant in EU discussion.

>>715243875
literally no game dev does this, and this petition is literally intended to not allow them do it

>>715243153
>Try saying publicly that you don't want to eat the Gay Homo Aids Burger
Ironic that you'd try to argue that, given that the same exact situation happened where someone didn't buy into your virtue signaling script, so you niggers pissed your pants, screamed at him, tried to ruin his life, and make him into a pariah. Go ahead, draw more lines between yourself and SJWs, it's hilarious.

>>715243742
>your freedom is at stake
I don't play GAAS; I think they're universally shit. Please explain how my freedom is at stake, or how supporting this movement does anything for me.

>>715243881
>you're subscribing to a service for the duration of one payment
Exactly.

>KEEP RECEIVING THE SERVICE INDEFINITELY
That's the whole point, it's not indefinitely. It's until eos.

>>715235195
>We are announcing operation "Kill All Games"
>Let me introduce you to our fuhrer-cough, I mean leader for this operation, Mr. Pirate "Thor" Software

>>715243925
It won't make a difference, it'll wrap back around to the HoC debate eventually.
Skipping an episode isn't worth the bother.
Consumer interests are still global.

>>715243986
>please explain please explain for the billionth time!

>>715243931
It's actually not. Read the document before making such claims.

>>715243936
What's up tardavius, your code is shit by the way.

>A call for evidence on communication on video games
What the fuck does that mean?

>>715243349
Videogame publishers are evil. It is that simple.

>>715244113
>Show us companies that are doing shady shit

>>715243742
Long story short
>skg = taking away freedom while also removing consequence meaning corporations are free to exploit customers without the customers knowing something is wrong
>anti-skg = against loss of freedom for everyone and wants to attack corporations where it hurts the most, their wallets but no one will listen because they're brainwashed by youtuber loyalty
Basically no one is on the side of corpo but the former believes the latter are and cry about it every day.

>>715238427
>Yeah but doesn't the US have a problem with high cost of living
The US has a problem with cooking the books.

Most claims of the US's average wealth are based on mean GDP, which is heavily slanted thanks to the few super rich in Silicon Valley and Hollywood. If you'd look at the more represenative median GDP, the US is actually doing worse than European countries like Belgium.

(And Belgium was for a long time known as an utter shithole that couldn't even maintain its road system.)

>>715244113
Basically they want to show that companies did something that the consumers didn't know about before hand aka not informing them of the possibility of a shutdown beforehand.

Which means that there's a sort of roadblock for skg.

>>715244298
That's not what that says at all

>>715243847
Windows 11 is so fucking bad. My work computer upgraded and the taskbar is the most AIDS fucking garbage I've ever come across. It's like two cm thick, you cant resize it even with regedit and whenever the enormous task buttons become overcrowded they hide everything under a ... button instead of the previous task bar arrows that were better and popped up much more rarely. And I'm sure this is only the top of the win11 shitberg.

>>715243349
I DON'T FUCKING WANT TO LEARN HOW DOCKER WORKS FUCK OFF AND FUCK YOU I WANT TO BUY THE NEW GAME

>>715244340
Anon, if you don't understand or didn't watch it then stay out of the conversation.

>>715244434
You should take your own advice

>>715239023
>What's the difference between these two?
Actually; the difference is that Ireland is using Civil Law like mainland Europe and generally has always tended its laws and principles to be in line with mainland Europe. Whereas Britain uses Common Law (which the US inherited from Britain) and has a mindset that is more in line with the US wrt the upper class ruling the rabble. Except there it traditionally was the aristrocracy, rather than the corporations.

>>715239378
Because offering a standardized plug to the consumer is just the nice and courteous thing to do.
And if the corporations are dumbfuck entitled nepo-brats that never got to enjoy a decent morally sound upbringing, then by god Daddy government will step in to give them the belt.

>>715235101 (OP)
>You will see the collapse of video game sales in europe
I can't fucking wait bros. The last thing the Europoor sees before he dies of heatstroke is SKG passing and publishers deciding that putting up with that socialist shithole isn't worth it.

>>715242997
>Someone trained from birth to rule and bear the responsibility until death as well as to raise the next ruler accordingly
vs
>Someone who chose to train to win popularity contests on a national scale for their own personal gain and will shirk responsibility for the next guy to clean up after a few years once he's secured his retirement plans
Anything can look stupid/sensible depending on how you frame it.

>>715244596
why are americans so circumcised bros??

>>715244393

Tell me about it bro. I hated having to give up my work Win10 PC too. Sure, I got a faster PC, but every where I turn I encounter some kinda headache with Win11.

>>715244675
One does not consent to being a golem.
>>715239023
>median

>>715244596
Corpos will kneel before EUchads as always, no matter how hard you shills piss and cry

>>715239795
>One of the many reasons why europe never got big like the USA because american people can manage their own stuff
The only reason the US exists today is because several European countries secretly supported them right under the British Crown's nose during the war of independence, as they failed to be self-sufficient enough to secure their own supply lines for food, weapons, and medical supplies. Through which in particular Dutch privateers made a pretty penny smuggling muskets and black powder.

Land of the Free (Fucked Rectally by Every Enterprise) indeed.

>>715244668
Real monarchy is beating the shit out of everyone who could possibly challenge your claim to the throne

>>715244675
I really don't get the circumcision thing. It'd be one thing if it was only to the people they view as cattle, but they do it to their own people as well.

>>715235101 (OP)
WE DID IT REDDIT
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>715239795
>One of the many reasons why europe never got big like the USA
Do US history lessons start after WW2 or something?

>>715239996
>Forcing regulations upon these game devs is going to make them go for the 'cheap way'
And then that will simply be made illegal as well.
Problem solved.

>>715244796
That's politics in general.

>>715236818
Live service games are already going to be destroyed a couple of years after release, and whilever that's the case they're worthless as far as I'm concerned.

This initiative will either save them from destruction in which case, great, we get a bunch of new games to play indefinitely, or it will somehow backfire and make them worse like how >>715237005 described. If that happens, too bad, but again they were gonna be destroyed a few years after release anyway. It doesn't make a difference to me because I don't play games with an expiration date.

>>715244463
>muh legal tradition
A very silly argument. 1996-2003 is the period in which Ireland slashed its corporate tax rate from 36% to 12.5%.

>>715244931
Yeah, and monarchy often becomes about power plays rather than the mythical "good governance".

>>715235195
>You want us to stop killing games?
>Here's a million migrants!

Video games?

>>715245001
Every government has power plays, even rebublics.

>>715244997
This is pathetic.
You people spend more time sucking corporate cock and making shitpost images than you do trying to understand your own initiative.

>>715245109
Yes so monarchy isn't some fucking meritocratic smart kids club. The fact that plato 2500 years ago had to make up the idea of the philisopher-king is evidence enough that kings aren't some sort of superhumans

People who only play multiplayer games are fucking gay and are the only people asshurt by this petition

>>715236038
>The worst thing that can result from this is nothing changes
Anon, the worst thing that can happen is that it goes off without a hitch. You people don't understand that skg is an excuse to spend more on video games from these awful companies under the guise of "protection". On top of that because you've given them rules they'll know exactly where they can bend them.

>>715245203
stop killing games!

>>715245320
>People who play the games impacted by this petition are the only ones who will be hurt
No shit?

>>715239649
The USSR was in Europe and not in the United States of Israel, really makes you think.

>>715244997
I know this is supposed to be some sort of mean-spirited jab, but this image is unironically so powerful. The fact that so many of us gamers (who are usually so divided) were able to come together like this in defense of an ideal we all hold dear…
I believe the Endgame connection is sufficient to describe just how ecstatic the whole thing is.

>>715245385
>People who play the games impacted by this petition
The funny part is that this wasn't ever supposed to be about multiplayer only games, it was supposed to be about DRM.

>>715245320
Why would they even be asshurt? Are they upset they'll be able to play their MP games indefinitely as opposed to them being killed off?

>>715245406
>*raises fist in solidarity*
So true, brother.

>>715235101 (OP)
If you put your hopes into the EU, you better prepare for disappointment.

>>715241980
No. They'd just use a fraction of that 50 USD per egg revenue to launch a smear campaign against the detractors and have 'scientists' make fabricated statements that 'prove' the eggs didn't kill people and salmonella is a fake government spook.

>>715235726
*ruin live service slop

>>715245532
They raped Tim Cook 3 times so there might be a chance.

>>715245549
It doesn't affect them at all.

>>715244912
That's not going to happen. The politicians in charge may give SKG some regulations now that it's hot but you'd have to be delusional to think that they're going to maintain and fix it once they pushed out a faulty regulation.
They really don't care enough to actually find a way to make it work.

>>715243742
The contract just dropped

Just so you understand how difficult it was to reach this stage.

>>715236254
Mao wasn't actually the one that instituted the anti-sparrow shit, but he was the one who ended it. Nor was his power as absolute as you think at the time that was started. It was literally instances like that which let him centralize absolute power in himself, well beyond just being the leader of the single party that ruled the nation.

>>715242130
What wallet?
No regulations, right?
So banks have no reason to allow people to open and keep accounts.

What's that? Workers should just keep their money on their person at all times?
What money?
No regulations, right?
They're just forced to work at gunpoint for zero wage.
It's not slavery, see - it's lead-motivated volunteering.

>>715245720
>So banks have no reason to allow people to open and keep accounts.
Nani? Banks are insanely profitable

>>715245265
>Yes so monarchy isn't some fucking meritocratic smart kids club.
I don't remember saying that, just that a guy raised to rule can be expressed to sound less stupid than a guy who vied for approval to rule.
>plato philisopher-king argument
That still entails a system of dedicated rulers training the next generation of dedicated rulers, I'm not sure what you're getting at with this argument.

>>715244951
wow the line is going up, irish people must all be fucking rich by now!

>>715243209
>Anon, you can pay for a subscription up front.
In the EU you literally cannot. It's not a form of contract that has any legal basis or acknowledgement.
You either purchase a good for lifetime, or you subscribe to a service for a determinate time.

why do the anti-SKG shills try so desperately to make it an USA vs EU issue?

>>715245681
With this tough competition, it's truly amazing what us gamers have achieved.

>>715245824
How predictable. When faced with the failure of your ideology, you just shut your eyes and refuse to see. I already showed the impact on median incomes (THOSE FELT BY THE MIDDLE CLASS) earlier in this thread.

>>715243458
>pedophile rapists
DESU violently shoving it up the backside of a convicted pedophile seems a very based and appropriately eye-for-an-eye kind of deal, though.

>>715236254
The KMT were comically evil and inept, and everyone hated them for a reason. They once blew up a dam killing literally half a million people to delay the japs for like a week.
>>715236353
It was literally the KMT holed up in the mountains in the west, while the commies established their presence in the interior "behind" Japanese lines. The Japanese control was very limited and focused on major cities and supply routes. This let the commies build up to the point where they were basically impossible for the KMT to dislodge.

>>715245958
:: urgh :: fucking stupid word filter...

>>715235101 (OP)
Is Interpol going after figtree now based.

>>715245950
That's not an ECI.

>>715245950
>Country defaults to Israel
very interesting

>>715245894
Yes anon, because it's the anti-skg people going
>YOU JUST DON'T GET IT YOU DUMB AMERICAN!
The fun part? Most of the supporters here are American anyway.

>>715241814
/thread

>>715244393
>I'm sure this is only the top of the win11 shitberg
Notepad uses a Microsoft Account now.
And integrates with Copilot AI for suggesting editorial on existing texts, generating new text, or adjusting formatting.
Oh yes- formatting; it's not plain text anymore. It's rich text now. (No; not something semi-sane like Markdown either.)

>>715245894
Because having rights that protect citizens from getting assraped by corporations is communism which infuriates your average amerigolem.

>>715244776
Did someone post the KNEEL pasta already?
Feels appropriate here >>715244596 doesn't it?

>>715246260
you are proving my point, you know.

>>715244874
Did US history lessons ever start?
Did US education in general ever start?

It feels like every progressive generation of Burgers gets at least twice as stupid.
But hey- don't try to explain exponential growth to them; they wouldn't get it...

>>715246315
He's clearly pro-SKG anon.

>>715244776

>>715245656
>They really don't care enough to actually find a way to make it work.
They don't care about video games? Really?

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/library/study-european-video-games-sector

REALLY?

>>715244776
Why are europoors such big government cucks? They resent Americans for making them prosperous and not letting the soviet union rule the whole continent.

>>715246180
Jesus fucking christ
>Lets add features to this featureless fundamental program

>>715246405
Forced astroturfed unfunny memes won't make you stop being cringe kek

>>715246479
Gotta justify that "11" somehow.
Unix thinking of one program = one purpose is becoming more appealing every day.

>>715246458
Why are americans such corpo cucks? They resent Eurogods for having consumer rights.

I signed the initiative. To all my EU bros, you should sign it too!

>>715239023
Why would you act like corporate taxes are the only difference between the two nations? Britain has had decades of decay that have utterly destroyed the nation, and the austerity politics that have utterly decimated every mid-sized town and city in the nation are an obvious part of that.
Also, the UK has been a nation with generally LOW corporate tax rates for most of the past few decades. Their median income has been falling for a long time despite that. Thatcherism failed, anon. Everyone saw it. Arguing they didn't go low ENOUGH on their bullshit is absurd.
>>715244951
Their GDP includes the profits of every company which literally only exists there on paper and doesn't actually contribute to the rest of the economy.

>>715246354
he's clearly jewish

>>715246528
>consumer rights
Does it matter when Europeans are poor as shit and don't consume anything

>>715246536
P.S. i love videogames and i want to own the videogames i paid money for. I remember gaming in the 80s, i remember gaming in the 90s, i remember gaming in the 2000s. This always online cancer must go.

>>715245824
Don't worry, that nonce henry will just say the magic median word again and then it'll all be okay.
They're all the fucking same.

If only they weren't so predictable. Each and every one of them, desperate to talk about economics, working with 1/80th of the facts.

>>715245950
HOW THE FUCK IS ANYONE SUPPOSED TO USE PAPER STRAWS
THEY DISINTEGRATE IN YOUR MOUTH

>>715246616
yes golem, only those that mindlessly consume are good

>>715246528
>dies in a heatwave

>>715246563
>Why would you act like corporate taxes are the only difference between the two nations?
It's not the only difference. But it's the biggest difference, and the rest of the positive differences also lie in friendliness to business.
>Their GDP includes the profits of every company which literally only exists there on paper and doesn't actually contribute to the rest of the economy.
Prebunked by median household income figures. Slowpoke.

>>715240832
if it a subscription with perpetual access then it doesn't matter, only when they change it to non perpetual one it will matter, but if they change it to 10-100 years it still forces them to keep the game in a working state for that period. So...

Weird to realize unironic lolbertarians are browsing /v/
It's like discovering a second even more retarded layer underneath the basic retardation

>>715246579
you're clearly retarded

>>715243936
Oh no, a eceleb faggot got told to ropemaxx. Anyway...

>>715246720
>Prebunked by median household income figures.
Now post the impact it had on the velocity of money in the region or how about poverty rates in Dublin.

>>715246616
>break leg
>go bankrupt
Who's the poorfag now?

>>715246536
Hell yeah brother

>>715246616
Anon, i've bought plenty of videogames over the years. Some on Steam, a lot on GOG. I also have a ton of games on CDs from when i was a teenager in the 90s and even have a few floppies from the 80s. I signed the SKG initiative. I hope it passes and produces regulations and laws.

>>715246790
Behind every lolbertarian is a henry who thinks he's almost made it and next year will be the year with this one little trick.

>australians try to force refunds for video games
>americans cry about it
>europeans try to force game companies to allow games to be kept locally in a playable state
>americans cry about it

>>715246874
Is it legal to sell a GOTY edition when the game wasn't game of the year?

>>715246790
Sasha, my beloved...

>>715246616
Why do foreign companies keep complying to regulations and continue to sell their goods in Europoor?

>>715246874
>I hope it passes and produces regulations and laws.
Congrats on making our continent even more retarded than it already is.

>>715246916
americattle

>>715246823
>Now post the impact it had on the velocity of money in the region
You can't eat the velocity of money. You want to switch to a less-relevant variable because...?
>how about poverty rates in Dublin
I don't even have to look to know that they went down. All of these macroeconomic indicators more or less correlate, and I've provided all the figures so far.

>>715246720
>But it's the biggest difference,
No, it's not even fucking close. The UK deliberately torpedoing all of its industry in the 80's and early 90's in favor of pandering to corporatism is the biggest difference. You don't wind up with longstanding, thriving communities turning into ghost towns because your corporate tax rate is 19% instead of 12.5%.
>and the rest of the positive differences also lie in friendliness to business.
The UK quite literally destroyed itself over obsessing over friendliness to business. It IS the example of your plans failing. Ireland succeeded entirely because they DIDN'T destroy their entire nation to pander to business. They don't pander to business at all. They pander to corporate enclaves.
>Prebunked by median household income figures. Slowpoke.
Ireland's median household income is not exceptional. You are comparing it to a failed state and holding it up as proof that your world view works, despite your world view destroying that very failed state.

>corpos can't just make offline versions of live service games it's literally impossi-AAAACKKK!!!

>>715246956
Your gaslighting will never work, jew. Pro-consumer regulations are why EU is better than Niggerland.

>>715246916
>Anything at all passes in the consumer's interest or positively impacts regular people
>dissent from Americans and hebes
Every time, like clockwork.
And if you're looking for an alternative, remember that you must have a fully costed, functional alternative ready to go in one reply.

>>715246616
>Europeans are poor as shit
>>715244241

>>715246939
Goddamn, you zoomers have really actually been memed into thinking that one ceremony is le video game oscars, huh? There's literally hundreds of publications giving out GOTY awards

>>715247008
Fuck off ya nonce.
Stop being a fanny and post the figures. Go oan ya stodgy cunt.

Holy shit they are mad. Europeans don't like it when you remind them their socialist policies are making them poor. This is why you're being replaced with muslims.

>>715246916
Meanwhile in reality
>>australians try to force refunds for video games
>>australians cry about America to avoid an argument
>>europeans try to force game companies to allow games to be kept locally in a playable state
>>Europeans cry about Americans to avoid an argument
I swear, the amount of times I've been called a fucking American just because I have the mental capacity to fucking think first is just absurd. I live in fucking Ireland

>>715247012
>Ireland taxes corporations 12.5% because they're hostile to corporations
>Britain is too friendly to corporations, that's why they tax them at 25%
You are such a fucking clown.

>>715247049
>>715246998
They even cry about the fact yuros dont have mutilated dicks like they and other 3rd worlders do.

>>715247081
I was actually just referring to it being an extremely mediocre game in general; more so when weighed against other titles that released that year.
'tis a criticism on the GOTY title, not whatever thing you have in mind.

>>715247030
Nintendo is a company not a corporation.

>>715247105
What argument?

>>715247142
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_4#Awards
And I'm telling you GOTY means nothing, zoomie

>>715246956
>lolbertarian seething at regulations
Go smoke asbestos Kent you faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQsRx1lz0o8

>>715247118
>has no retort
>wastes time
Can you go and get shot already? Ta.

>>715236254
The time between the fall of the Qing, through the Taiping and Boxer rebellions to the warlord era right up until the Chinese civil war is some fascinating shit to read about. If you think the reds and KMT governments were bad then the last dynasty that preceded makes the whole thing look like small timers by comparison. Between the clique faggotry of the court eunuch to the Empress Cixi herself for swindling state funds from the military to fund her own holiday home in the summer palace. The whole series of affairs is like slow motion train crash that never stops.

>>715247105
>>>australians cry about America to avoid an argument
the only argument to be had was that it should've been way over 2 hours you poofter, every other "argument" is shit and you should kill yourself

>>715247185
You have crippling autism.
Do not attempt to cross the road without first contracting AIDS.

>>715247101
>Europeans don't like it when you remind them their socialist policies are making them poor.
>>715244241

>>715247263
>gets BTFO and starts lashing out
Thanks for conceding.

>>715235101 (OP)
Its almost like democracy works or something

>>715247297
Anon, all you have to do is read.
It's a post calling Fallout 4 a shit game. It's not that deep, there's no generational war to fight, you just couldn't figure it out even after it was spelled out to you.
Buy a foot long for your asshole. It's the only cure.

>>715247368
>zoomie still coping that his favorite awards show means nothing
No more (you)s. Keep being angry that you're so obvious

>>715247101
Like how burgers apparently don't like it when you mention consumer rights? Fitting, considering you get sold edible cancer every day.

>>715245684
>It wasn't the great leaders fault, he was deceived by corrupt officials!
The man at the top is responsible, Mao either fucked up by doing it or fucked up by allowing it to happen

>>715247118
Ireland taxes corporations low to encourage foreign shell companies to exist their on paper.
Britain focused on being friendly to actual business operating in their country.
Do you not see the difference? Do you think Apple or Google or Microsoft are actually contributing to the Irish economy? They're US companies that pay a smaller nominal fee to ireland, nothing more.
>british corporate tax rate of 25%
It was 19% just a couple of years ago, and was similarly low for basically the entire 2010's.
Why aren't you comparing Ireland to nations like France or Germany which have had corporate tax rates of 25-30% for ages? Countries which also have equal or higher median household incomes by most metrics, and HAVEN'T had decades of Thatcherite austerity politics destroying them?

>>715247424
>Awards show
No way. You latched onto some MTV award.
What is actually wrong with your brain? Autism's there, but what else, get dropped as a kid? Drink some wine laced with antifreeze? Live in the ROI?
Do tell. Do tell.

>>715247493
>fuck up at the top
>no one gives a shit because lol china numbah wun

>>715247493
I thought your problem with him was that he was too much of a big evil dictator and that centralizing power was bad?

>>715247142
Anon, that doesn't even make sense as a response. You clearly weren't criticising the title, you outright said.
>>715246939
>Is it legal to sell a GOTY edition when the game wasn't game of the year?
As if there was only one game of the year that you knew of and it didn't win that one.

You shouldn't have doubled down.

>>715246916
They're Israel/corpo's strongest golems after all.

>>715247597
Stop being a commie

>>715247597
So your argument for why he wasn't centralizing power is that he somehow didn't have the power to institute a nation-wide sparrow killing initiative but he DID have the power to stop it nation-wide?

>>715247546
>Why aren't you comparing Ireland to nations like France or Germany which have had corporate tax rates of 25-30% for ages? Countries which also have equal or higher median household incomes by most metrics, and HAVEN'T had decades of Thatcherite austerity politics destroying them?
Because he's there to waste your time. He'll only ever present facts that support his argument, that reinforce his world view and the idea isn't to convince you or prove you wrong: It's merely to allow others to see one of the posts and think "that sounds right" then spout the same thing later.
Humans are a pattern seeking species.

>>715247623
Anon....
>>Is it legal to sell a GOTY edition when the game wasn't game of the year?
That's criticising the title and calling it a shit game..............
...................you only had to fucking read, stop, think and say, ohhhhh, right. It's a bad game. It's a play on absolutely anyone being able to call something a GOTY title.
Hey, if you want to go back to the zoomercore days. Remember COD4's GOTY? Where the first prints had the map pack included, but the later editions didn't. Activision still sold it as GOTY edition, what cunts they were. Bobby's a cunt.

>>715247101
>>715247281
>median GDP
You don't realize how moronic this is. It would be median household income or median individual income. There's no "median GDP."
Now I'll look this up to prove you wrong, but you won't admit it anyways because your ideology does not permit facts.
Median household income
Belgium: $67,620 in 2021
US: $70,784 in 2021
You lose even with your attempt at cherry-picking.

>>715247546
>Ireland taxes corporations low to encourage foreign shell companies to exist their on paper.
Median incomes increased. If it were all solely on paper, that wouldn't happen. Your imagined explanation does not fit reality.
>Why aren't you comparing Ireland to nations like France or Germany
I suppose I could, but it's tiresome when every time I'm right you try and switch topics.

>>715236636
>What exactly is the negative consquence analagous to the locust in this comparison
Increased consumption from people who believe that legislation will give them protection and as a result we have even lower quality games being pumped out as consumers can no longer make the necessary mistakes to develop standards

>>715247687
There are a lot of retards like this which genuinely believe what they're saying. In no small part because nobody bothers to actually challenge them meaningfully.

>>715247623
>Goddamn, you zoomers have really actually been memed into thinking that one ceremony is le video game oscars, huh? There's literally hundreds of publications giving out GOTY awards
bwo

>>715246621
Publishers want to return to the days of arcade machines where you have to pay to play one session.

>>715247597
I'm just pointing out that Chairman Mao is directly responsible for massive famines leading to millions of innocent chinese men, women and children dying a slow, agonising death from hunger whether he ordered it himself or not
Whatever your thoughts on the value of democratic governance, Mao was an objectively terrible leader

>>715236818
It's preferable that we're able to preserve our live service games, but if that's not possible, then I'd rather they die or be so crippled only a few of them come out

>>715247821
He invoked the power word.
Bow down to deregulation. Areland will be rich again.

>>715247836
What an incredibly ironic statement. 4chan is full of morons like you who repeat your crap, and rarely does someone like me take the time to dig out figures and prove you wrong (partly because jannies intervene when anything right-wing is communicated).

>>715247281
Just because you're mad and poor doesn't mean I also have to be. The median American makes more than the median euro goy. If you're moderately skilled, work in America pays triple that of Europooria. You don't even know how poor you are kek.
>He's reaching for the PPP graph
Oh no no no no

>>715247890
This reminds me of that EA CEO who suggested they make reloading your gun in a videogame into a microtransaction.

>>715247821
>Median incomes increased. If it were all solely on paper, that wouldn't happen.
Median incomes increased everywhere. You've done nothing to show that Irish median incomes increased more than average, and nothing to actually link that to corporate tax rate in particular. Might as well pretend that their incomes went up because of their policy of making their national language a bullshit language nobody actually speaks.
>but it's tiresome when every time I'm right you try and switch topics.
Since my first post my point has always been that your comparison is bullshit and arbitrary.

>>715247890
>not charging the user on a per hourly basis
GTA6 will lead the way with this and the $100 pricetag. Trust the plan.

>>715247941
oh sod off noncey boy
you're a poofter, you'll always be a poofter and no matter how many people do you up the bum the magic word didn't solve all of Ireland's issues.

>>715247941
>dig out figures and prove you wrong
Stating random figures is not proving anything.
>partly because jannies intervene when anything right-wing is communicated
>on fucking 4chan
You're utterly delusional holy shit

>>715246621
>No Shiny's Sacrifice
Son, I am dissapoint.

>>715248043
Do not disrespect me

>>715247978
Median incomes increased a lot more in Ireland than in the UK, due to these lower corporate tax rates.
>You've done nothing to show that Irish median incomes increased more than average
Holy shit you think Ireland has always had high median incomes? Do you not put any critical thought into this at all? Stop putting all the burden of proof on me, I've proved my assertions. If you want to claim that Ireland's median income growth is average or below average, YOU PROVE IT.

>>715236254
Chang Kai Shek was much worse at warfare and is largely at fault for ceding so much territory to the Japanese. Not even the soldiery supported him, let alone the peasants he was selling out.

>>715247030
This is honestly a solid example of how to turn a live service into a fully offline game. They went as far as adding features to make up for the lack of friend interactions, leaf tokens, and so on, plus a new location. Even though it's still mobile garbage, the whales got shafted, and shittendo started charging for this slop.

>>715240032
Wrf if prisons are overcrowded there's a fix for that, start hanging

>>715247978
>Median incomes increased everywhere. You've done nothing to show that Irish median incomes increased more than average, and nothing to actually link that to corporate tax rate in particular.
He's also well. You know.
Completely avoided that it's only an increase in median incomes, doesn't say where that money goes, how it's distributed or even taxed. It's not pinned against any other socioeconomic factors in ROI either.
You may as well be discussing policy with a user poll on a newspaper. It'll pin down the consistency without the stink.

>>715248191
>say words
>life stolen

>>715247963
>The median American makes more than the median euro goy
If you include all the slav shitholes then yea, sure.

>>715247891
Mao is directly responsible or ending famines and high infant mortality in China once and for all.

>>715247798
Why are you this hurt by a simple mistake? You could have just said "oh, okay I didn't know".
Instead you're just throwing a tantrum because people know how to read and you don't.
>It's a play on absolutely anyone being able to call something a GOTY title.
No, no it isn't. If it was and you really wanted to criticise it you should have said something more along the lines of "oh I hate how there are just so many publications giving out awards that any game can be called a GOTY version" but you didn't, you said
>when the game wasn't game of the year?
Implying it needed to win one specific one to earn that title.

This is how English works and it clearly isn't your first language.

>>715248148
Listen, you're no going to get respect either. So it's disrespect or sod all.
You need to earn that.

>>715248150
>Stop putting all the burden of proof on me, I've proved my assertions.
lmao
No.
You get to prove everything else. Just as you demanded from others.
Way of the road bud, suck the cock or get off to an orb.

>>715248132
This is a very old list.

>>715239897
First of all people won't subscribe to games unless its a fucking amazing MMO. They hardly even buy shitty games, much less subscribe to them.

Second, even if the only change is that Steam is forced to put "Rent" instead of "Buy" it will correct this abusive market better than it is now. I hope that something bigger happens though

>>715248317
I've already proved it. You're scared to look things up because all the figures support me.

>>715248340
>even if the only change is that Steam is forced to put "Rent" instead of "Buy" it will correct this abusive market better than it is now. I hope that something bigger happens though
They would also get sued for false advertising because it's not renting.

>>715248150
Ireland is just a place for corpos to park their money. If other countries did that as well you'd have nothing.

>>715247963
>think his brazil tier cesspool is better than yurochads

>>715236353
>ROC was fighting the japanese while the commies hid in the mountains and waited
Retarded /k/ike narrative that never made any sense because the most infamous "ROC" moment was starting a civil war with commies DURING Japanese invasion.

Japs in China got kicked because commies and soviets were right there, in Manchuria/north. Which is why the pushed into Korea as well.

>>715248259
Anon.
Shut the fuck up you wanker.
>No, no it isn't.
Yes, yes it is. There's my words, they were said with intent.
No, your alternative phrase is GPT-tier in that it has nothing to do with taking a stab at Fallout 4 being a shit game, sold with a GOTY title.

Also. It absolutely would have won GOTY titles, because they're given out by absolutely fucking everywhere. Your own counter argument would be immediately debunked by the presence of other publications existing and focusing on some MTV awards show.
So no. It still remains a joke about Fallout 4 being a shit game released in 2015, when there were good games released.
It's still there to make fun of Todd Howard & Zenimax.

Ingest bleach ASAFP.

>>715248409
A reasonable argument, but an irrelevant one. By keeping tax rates high in (your) country, you choose to be poorer.

>>715248150
>Median incomes increased a lot more in Ireland than in the UK,
The UK is only one country. The UK has done poorly. It is not an example to prove that the Irish income improved more than average. Most developed nations have improved when measured against the UK in the same timeframe.
>due to these lower corporate tax rates.
You have presented zero evidence for this. Pointing to two facts does not prove a correlation.
>Holy shit you think Ireland has always had high median incomes?
They were already on par with the UK in ~'96 when they dropped their tax rate from what I can see. Ireland hasn't been some poor backwater for like a century, anon.
>Stop putting all the burden of proof on me, I've proved my assertions.
Wrong. Again, you've stated facts. Proving something involves using logic to connect facts and build upon facts, something you haven't done.
>If you want to claim that Ireland's median income growth is average or below average
I've not even claimed that. I've said that the effect of their corporate tax rate on their median income is impossible to ascertain (likely because it hasn't had one, though obviously you can't prove a negative like that), and that using the UK to prove that their income raised more than average is absurd.

>>715240936
Back in the day, but we're in matured capitalism where the companies just outsource, retard. At best they just collude with each other and don't step on each other's toes like they used to.

>>715248506
You're proposing a race to the bottom, which is retarded.

>>715248506
Now the burden of proof is really on you.
You now have to prove that other nations citizens are poorer and that you are richer, you, personally.
Every metric, wealth in its entirety.

>>715248331
Well, Sacrifice is also a very old game, no reason why it shouldn't in an old list.

>>715248504
>There's my words, they were said with intent
Words you don't understand, clearly.
>It absolutely would have won GOTY titles
See, if you knew that from the start you would have questioned that in the first place.

Are you starting to see the issue here?

>>715237586
>the USA boycotted the ROC
Chiang Kai Shek was known as "Cash My Check" among the Americans because he was basically Chinese Zelensky at the time, slurping up various gibs. Americans provided pretty much the entire airforce for KMT (Flying Tigers).

Yet they were still incompetent due to corruption, leading them to losing the entire mainland to commies which made the Americans seethe uncontrollably.

>>715248504
>Your own counter argument would be immediately debunked by the presence of other publications existing and focusing on some MTV awards show.
NTA but what the fuck are you even trying to say right now? You're the one who acted like the big show was the only one in the first place, if you knew there were more then you wouldn't have questioned why they were allowed to put GOTY on it if it didn't win because you would have just assumed it won somewhere because there are just so many anyway.
Are you being retarded on purpose?

>>715248587
>The UK is only one country.
And I'm only one anon. I've presented numerous other arguments in this thread, but I can't go on forever with people who won't even acknowledge it when I prove something. Plus I have Rimworld waiting to be played.
>Pointing to two facts does not prove a correlation.
It literally does, that's how correlation works. I didn't prove causation, it's just that you have to be an ideologically blinded idiot to deny the causation.
>They were already on par with the UK in ~'96 when they dropped their tax rate from what I can see.
Yeah and then they grew precipitously.
>Wrong. Again, you've stated facts. Proving something involves using logic to connect facts and build upon facts, something you haven't done.
Addressed above, but I can't teach you economics here. At some point you just need to pull your head out of the sand.
>I've said that the effect of their corporate tax rate on their median income is impossible to ascertain
Ah there we go, you admit that your belief is unfalsifiable in your eyes

>>715248746
>See, if you knew that from the start you would have questioned that in the first place.
Anon. It's sarcasm. Satire. Played as a laugh, pretending to be wilfully ignore.
>Are you starting to see the issue here?
No. Not starting, did >>715247081 here, so this would be termed a continuation of me seeing the issue.
You misunderstood a post, latched onto it like an autist, then continued to keep doubling down because the general concept of sarcasm and satire escaped your or your reading comprehension is so poor that you somehow thought anyone actually gives a fuck about what awards a Fallout game of all things won 10 years ago. Because we all know the official GOTY from 2015 was that pewdiepie game.

>>715248730
I had not played the game yet. There are too many games. I don't know of anyone who has played them all when they came out.

>>715248253
his hands are stained with the blood of millions, killed solely through thoughtless incompetence
Mao was more devastating to china than the Japanese

>>715248618
*race to the top

>>715248947
>>Your own counter argument would be immediately debunked by the presence of other publications existing and focusing on some MTV awards show.
>NTA but what the fuck are you even trying to say right now? You're the one who acted like the big show was the only one in the first place,
huh?
>>715246939
does not act like that.
>>715247081
asserts that it's something to do with an awards show.
That 2nd one isn't me, that was never a part of the text and it was only mentioned explicitly in this context due to>>715248259
>No, no it isn't. If it was and you really wanted to criticise it you should have said something more along the lines of "oh I hate how there are just so many publications giving out awards that any game can be called a GOTY version" but you didn't, you said
this line being included.

It makes it very clear what the context was. That an anon misread a post and that sperged out about an awards show due to a severe limitation of mental bandwidth.

>>715248949
>boo hoo people keep poking at my retarded examples I can't argue them all
Then stop making retarded arguments that are easy to poke holes in.
>It literally does, that's how correlation works.
No, you need more data points for a correlation. Two data points are just two data points.
>it's just that you have to be an ideologically blinded idiot to deny the causation.
Nigger you're literally trying to claim that a country that imploded purely to pander to business actually failed because it didn't pander to business. There's only one blind ideologue here.
>you admit that your belief is unfalsifiable in your eyes
I admit that I am not a blind retard who looks at two numbers and just decides what ones effect on the other is to suit my needs, yes. There is no magic way to unpick economic effects of individual policies on complex systems. Welcome to economics, anyone trying to sell you one magic trick to solve everything is lying to you.
>but I can't teach you economics here. At some point you just need to pull your head out of the sand.
I accept your concession.

>>715249101
Amerikikes seething to this day Mao didn't repeat Iran's mistake and just instantly developed the bomb to shoo away invading americorporate parasites lmao

>>715249036
>It's sarcasm.
Why even continue this nonsense? You're just digging your hole deeper and deeper. You don't even seem to understand how sarcasm even works.

>then continued to keep doubling down
I don't see what you're trying to achieve by even making this aim as if multiple people havent called you out. That first post and this one >>715248947 aren't me do there's at least two different people who are making fun of you for this.
Also it doesn't help when you're using phrases you've only just picked up from me.

>>715248949
tough tits
you will continue to be called a retard until the day you die
the moment you die, the nursing staff will call you a retard

when you are buried or cremated, you will be called a retard at your wake
that's actually pretty good in all, because there's much worse things they could say about you

learn to live with it.

>>715249259
>Two data points are just two data points.
The argument you're disputing shows two fucking lines, each made up of many data points you moron.
>Nigger you're literally trying to claim that a country that imploded purely to pander to business actually failed because it didn't pander to business.
That's just pure bullshit leftist narrative you've internalized.

>>715249294
That means there's 2 people who have fundamentally misunderstood that a comment asking if it's legal for Fallout 4 to sell itself as GOTY exist on this earth at this time.
In hindsight, I suppose it should have just been an @grok is this real line of satire.
In that case they may have picked up on it.

Both of you should have yourselves today. Do not breed, if you have children, eviscerate them.

>>715249198
You absolute dipshit
>does not act like that
That first post, your post is talking as if there's only one games awards that it needed to win to have the right to be called GOTY. that's how you read that sentence you fucking idiot.

The second post, which no one claimed was yours, makes fun of you for thinking that the big show was the only one because it's the most likely candidate since it's the big show everyone knows.
He said that because he read your post correctly.

The third post is explaining what you said to you in a way you should have been able to understand but instead you got butthurt about it.

>It makes it very clear what the context was
Yeah.
You made a post thinking there was only the awards show, got embarrassed when someone corrected you an tried to retroactively change your post by saying I was criticism and then sarcasm.
You're an idiot.

>>715247891
Nah, the bizarre idea of putting one man to blame for literally every aspect of every policy in a nation of billions is absurd.
Nor is the sparrow shit even really to blame for most of the ""resulting"" famine as people vaguely gesturing at it like to make out. Half the country was in horrible drought and the other half saw massive, near unprecedented flooding. Combine that with the rampant corrupting expected of a country coming out of like half a century of civil war and also killing everyone who owned any farms, and you get much more pressing issues than missing sparrows.
And yet its funny, the CCP that Mao put in place then led China into just about the only period it ever went WITHOUT massive famine for more than a couple of decades...

>tfw the libertarian juice box kicks in

Why are some retarded zoomers deconstructing my posts? Did they get that triggered about GOTY not mattering?

>>715249270
The Japs tried just as hard as they could for 8 years and in all that time managed somewhere between 10 and 20 million dead Chinese
Mao beat that number in 5
Its actually not that surprising when you think about it, the Japs could only kill in the areas of China they controlled whereas Mao was able to take apart the entire Chinese agriculture sector from within, dooming millions to starvation with the stroke of a pen

>>715249490
>That means there's 2 people who have fundamentally misunderstood that a comment asking if it's legal for Fallout 4 to sell itself as GOTY exist on this earth at this time.
It's a short sentence anon, there's no misunderstanding it, that's why you're so angry now because you're embarrassed at being corrected.

>>715249397
>That's just pure bullshit leftist narrative you've internalized.
What? Which government of Britain in the past four decades do you think had ANYTHING on their mind beyond helping big london banks and financial institutions?

>>715249658
He's triggered because someone told him that there's more than one GOTY award.

>>715235726
>ruin gaming
How is being able to own the things I pay for ruining them?

>>715249662
China's population doubled under Mao. Despite fucking amerimutts in the throat during Korean war lol

Drop your Black Book of Glowniggery stats bro. You long lost this one.

>>715249589
>That first post, your post is talking as if there's only one games awards
No. It doesn't.
It explicitly does not.
Here. An LLM, an inferior LLM can figure this out.
I did not read anything after the first sentence that I pasted in as it was not required.

>>715249598
Mao signed the order
The Great Leap Forward was his idea

>>715235849
You are the ones trying to kill things.

>>715249817
One day the truth of what happened will come out in China, and Maos party will be made to answer for its crimes against the Chinese people

>>715249902
In just 2 weeks eglin glowniggers will get new material and will stop dying from fentanyl copium.

>>715249658
Turns out people can infer meaning from a single sentence.

>>715249817
>Despite fucking amerimutts in the throat during Korean war lol
>this is what chinks actually believe

>>715249834
It's almost as if it feeds you answers based on your input and doesn't think logically like a human. Implication and inference doesn't exist to an AI.

>>715250008
Yes, Forgotten War will forever remain a dried up cumstain in NAFO nigger's ass.

Go lose against the Houthis again, kike.

>>715250071
just two more weeks mister vatnik

>>715249834
Now ask your AI if your post suggests multiple Game of the year awards exist, if it can be considered criticism of the game or GOTY title or can be considered sarcasm.

You won't because you're a faggot.

>>715250115
Two more weeks of operation prosperity guardian lmao

You lost another war, amerikike.

>>715248237
The poorest American state is richer than the wealthiest Europoor socialist shitholes

>>715249834
>second response literally confirms it can be read as you referring to it as one award show.

>>715250029
>Implication and inference doesn't exist to an AI.
The irony now being that even an AI can detect when someone has assumed something from nothing.
Shouldn't need to get to that stage though, should it? Because the statement of what it meant exactly from the author should have been enough instead of some faggots doing a "death of the author" spaz out over a post on /v/ where they refused to acknowledge the pope's claim.

>>715250201
>The irony now being that even an AI can detect when someone has assumed something from nothing.
>>715250029
>It's almost as if it feeds you answers based on your input
You just can't read can you.

>>715249706
Well first of all, you've subtly changed your argument. Being pro-business is not the same as being pro-jewish banking. Labour wins about half the time and they're explicitly leftist. Conservatives are far from Laissez-faire, however. In the attached graph going back to 2013, not once has government spending dropped below 39% of the entire economy. Whether through money creation or taxes, that's all weight that british business must bear.

>>715250157
lolno

>>715250132
can you just not be so fucking gay

>>715250201
Nigger that AI gave that response because you asked it if it says you "explicitly" said that. Of course the retarded AI is going to say no because it isn't explicit.

>>715250352
I don't know why you're acting smug as if this doesn't destroy your entire argument and use of AI.

>>715250406
>>715250474
Both of you are completely and utterly fucking retarded.
It's a simple statement, it makes fun of Fallout 4 for being a shit game.

You can get upset, you can go on about death of the author and your interpretation or you can read. I'd prefer you both hang yourselves by the neck.