>[SAD NEWS] Ninja Gaiden 4 is a juggleslop
DMC and Platinum were a mistake...

Why do actionfags seem so unhappy despite having played such a great action games?

>>715842083 (OP)
>Ninja Gaiden 4 is a juggleslop
qrd?

>>715842083 (OP)
it's still probably going to be goty just by virtue of not being UE5 slop

>>715843068
Everyone on twitter, reddit and discord is shitting on this, even diehard shills

>>715842953
how do these guys guitars last? that will be double strumming within a day

If Vergil was black, he'd definitely be the kind of black guy to say "nigga" a lot.

>>715842083 (OP)
Dual Katana in NG3 is garbage. You can make “cool” MAD videos but it's not usable on any difficulty other than hard. Even on hard it's garbage

>Strings

unsafe

>Landing

unsafe
The only good thing is UT but in NG3 it's better to use ninpo because of the iframes + health. The game clearly has a top 3; Scythe, DS and Lunar. All the others are either situational or only usable on low difficulties, I mean only dual katana. I'm not feeling NG4 either

Claw is what Dual Katana was supposed to be.

>>715843494
what the Fuck

>>715843494
Tragic

>>715843494
This looks like Soulstice, same lack of gravity, same moves naturally comboing into each other.

>>715844101
Go back to abusing the scythe then

>>715843494
Am I supposed to pretend this looks bad?

>>715843494
airstring looks like it came out of senran kagura

The juggle and everything to do with it looks Bayonetta tier but weapon switching is a great addition.

>>715842083 (OP)
Name a single video game

>>715846880
nothing to pretend, it looks bad for NG

>>715847151
If you could forward y talons into OT then weaponswap into tonfa ET that would be absolutely disgusting to where even master ninja becomes a joke. Ideally the game is balanced around seemingly

>pointless bridge section where you can only shoot his dumb face and jump over him
>spends most of the time running around in circles
>you take damage and fly off if you accidentally fall off when you jump on him or your helm breaker hits the wrong way
>teleports away after letting you hit him while stunned for 3 seconds
>goes back to the time wasting running bullshit
>spawns time slow orbs to make all this shit even more aggravating
>all this following one of the worst stages where you're taking constant damage and your DT is disabled
What the fuck were they thinking with this boss? This faggot horse is the current wall I'm hitting on my DMD run. I dunno how people even tolerate practicing this mission considering the bullcrap ealier with the one vanguard that you have to fight with like 20 DT'd lusts trying to fuck your ass while your deal with him.

>>715843494
this is horrible why didnt they bring back oatmeal man to make this game

>>715847719
Don't forget the optional Jester fight.

>>715847663
You can already do that though, the only difference is having to go through pause menu and it's not even that disgusting, setting up UT chains doesn't take much effort to begin with.

>>715847719
>my DMD run
That's your problem. It's widely agreed It's balance is shit.

>>715847568
wrong

>>715847719
Half the SS DMD walkthroughs use a strategy of keeping him in an infinite loop from the start of the second phase until death. Why don't you try to replicate that? it's doesn't seem that hard to do. If you fail just let it kill you so you can practice until you get it consistently. All that if you're going for SS rank by the way. If you're just trying to beat the level on DMD then just fucking fight him, use items, you should have plenty of orbs. He's annoying but not that hard. You can jump on his carriege when he's running in circles and just keep hitting it until he starts his teleporting spam. Then keep jumping until he stops and knock him down for big damage. Don't get greedy and get out of the way when he gets up. Rinse and repeat. The shittiest boss after Arkham to be honest. The shadow is pretty shit too. Lots of bosses are kind of shit now that I think about it.

>>715850615
Doppelganger is pretty gimmicky but at least it doesn't waste your time.

>>715850615
>Lots of bosses are kind of shit now that I think about it
Ah yes, boss fights. The biggest brainlet filter known to man.

.

>>715851194
If you say so, most dmc 3 bosses are not that great. Being completely honest the only bosses I actually like from this game are Vergil (all 3), A&R, and Beowulf. All the other ones range from annoying to bad.

>>715843494
ngl I was trying to be positive but this looks pretty bad. long unnecessary dial a combo while the guy just sandbags. even as he does the full string the other goon doesn't punish, just runs in to get hit by the splash damage and ot'd. the old ng launcher had plenty of variations without this shit and the animation is old dynasty warriors tier quality. so far the only ng looking stuff in the game is the ot's. whole thing looks very sloppa

>>715847719
>DMD
3's DMD is shit because you have to rely on DTE for everything

>>715843494
Platinum haters vindicated

>>715846880
I have never played a NG game to compare or bring up any downgrades, but it doesn't really look good. It kind of looks like you're locked into "cutscene" animations too much, and the enemies don't really do anything at all. It definitely gives off the impression that there's very little player agency.
I can see it being fun though, I guess.

>>715843494
>enemy delimbed on 2 hits in air
>/javg/ pretend this is forced juggle
fuck this gay general

>>715843494
>ng4 is literally psp tier gow with wow graphics

>>715842083 (OP)
>Platinum were a mistake...
Would rather Team Ninja make it and turn it into a slow 1v1 simulator with a stamina bar?

>>715856753
low iq take.

NG4 should have been like NGB. That is what the gamers need. It's what the true fans want.

>>715847359

>>715850615
Well after 2 hours I managed to beat him. I did look up the cheap strat on how to loop him to death with real impact > hurricane kick and it made the fight much more manageable. The biggest problem was mainly even knowing what to do, sometimes shit still fucked up because of how jank his hitboxes are. Trying to jump on the carriage? Sometimes he's running at the wrong angle and you overshoot it and land on the spiked wheel. Trying to land a real impact? Sometimes the lock on would target the carriage and give me volcano instead.
>use items
I still want to at least try to beat the levels legitimately. I used a Holy Water on Arkham during my Very Hard run and still kinda wish I didn't.

>>715859709
>used a Holy Water on Arkham
Good

3RE's MN and UN trials make me feel really bad at games. At least I haven't been playing games enough these last few weeks to care all that much. I'll get 'em eventually.

>>715856753
>slow

boses in dmc3 are so mid

>>715851194
bosses? brainlet filter? you just mash safe strings on them and dodge

>>715860232
Slower than anything shown in NG4, yes

>>715860998
>you just mash safe strings on them and dodge
If it's so simple. Why do so many tourists complain then? I'm sure their above room temp IQ is enough to clear such easy tasks I'm sure. Right anon?

>>715861367
because its pretty boring and unfun...?

>>715861398
Give us an example of a fun boss then?

>>715861512
bosses in mgr because of the spectacle or bosses in bmups, only those games got bosses right, also shmups I guess

>>715843494
Every good director and designer at platinum left in the last 2 years. The final one to leave was Taura at the end of last year.
Hopefully Nintendo can take full control of the Astral Chain IP and have Taura's new studio make a sequel instead of either abandoning it or leaving it to the shell that is Platinum Games. All I can say is Inaba really shit the bed, not that Sato left Platinum in a great state in 2021 with all the shovelware they had made

Who would you guys prefer to make NG4 instead of Platinum?

>>715861828
I think team ninja would be fine

>>715861828
You know who.

>>715862117
They've been making nothing but soulslop for the past 10 years. The director himself admitted that they needed Platinum's help cause they have no idea how to make action games anymore.

>>715862117
Team ninja has admitted they don't even know how to make real action games anymore

the bow in ninja gaiden is horrendous, why is this in the game

>>715862559
>why is this in the game
For military base

>>715861828

>>715843494
>Spamming Izuma Drop good
>Spamming UT good
>Air combos bad

>>715863014
True

>>715842083 (OP)

>>715842083 (OP)
bump

>>715863014
unironically trvthnvke

>>715863014
Yes

>>715846880
You're supposed to pretend it looks bad, pretend active weapon switching isn't a good addition everyone wanted, pretend all the clips of enemies being heavily aggressive, dying/delimbing quickly and having attacks that would hit out the air don't exist, pretend it's not a clip clearly done for demonstration purposes, pretend every NG game hasn't had attacks that hit you out the air, pretend several weapons didn't already have long air combos like dual swords or the flails FS spam and finally pretend the games haven't already had massive iframe sources like UTs and avoiding attacks by staying in the air.

>>715866789
ummm... uhhhhhhhhh.... TRANNY

>everyone wanted active weapon switching
secondaries isn't everyone, besides, the point of the webm is that the air combo is insanely ugly and weightless, too long too, and you are retarded if you think they made air combos this long for no reason

>>715866980
Literally from the very announcement they said they were going to emphasize verticality more. You're obsessing over how long the combo demonstration was while ignoring everything already shown and established that will prevent it, as well as why they would expand on aerial options entirely rather than just potential air strings, because you want to promote a constant narrative of shitting on the new game since that's easier to do while pretending you have any understanding of the series as a whole.

>>715868225
>buh buh buh you are le evil man want shit on a game
HOLY COPE mr. nigger, I just hated the ugly long combo they showed and now I am the worst person in this world, literal shill behavior, they had one billion clips and none of them showed how well enemies counter the airborne state, the last video especially lmao

>>715868225
MNR?

>>715842083 (OP)

>>715843494
>>715842083 (OP)
>>715842953
>>715866789
>>715868225
DMC has done irreparable damage to action games. Fights don't feel like fights in DMC. Fights actually felt like life and death in NGB because enemies were actual threats, there's an actual back and forth, it's not just a combo exhibition in training mode in a fighting game with a bloated but unnecessary moveset. Long flashy combos aren't impressive when they're piss easy to do and enemies are just sitting ducks that have no chance of ever killing your invincible MCU-quip spewing pizzaman.

Fuck ironic weebs and their DMC.
Fuck Platinum, fuck Kamiya, fuck Itsuno.
NGB will always be the pinnacle of high adrenaline action where fights feel like actual fights.

And here come the Itagakifags
I can't tell if they're doing a bit or really this fucking obnoxious

>>715871534
Enemies feel like fighting game npc's

>They have anti air attacks

>They punish turtling with grabs

>They punish dumb mashing with grabs and attacks

>recovery, at least in NG1 and 2 feels fair

>Some enemies will mix-up on you

more tought has been put into NG combat than in most games of the genre.

>>715862559
BOW is OP in every game except NGS2

>>715871961
LOL

>>715872231
Where's your MN clears?

>>715872705
I have 100s of hours in the game

>>715872770
Very nice

Time to migrate back

Platinum's most underrated game.

>urg
>i just wanted to spam that flying decapitating move forever
>groan zone bros

These come lately ninja gaiden """"fans"""" (they've not played the games, only watched videos) are some of the most obnoxious fuckers to come out of 2024. Fucking poseur bullshit

>the enemies don't fight back!
>play game
>the enemies fight back
Are they hoping no one plays them and they can say this enough times that people think it's true? Or have they also not played them?

>>715877741
No.

>>715878082
I'm telling you anon, 99% of /v/ doesn't play games and if you actually play games then you'll recognise how much utter bullshit is spouted here

>>715877909
Protect the gate brother

Based on these threads I can never tell if people even enjoy character action games

>>715878263
They only 'play' one game from one series and they can't even do that right.

>>715878082
Shitposters base their opinions on 1-2 cherrypicked .webms they see and then parrot it forever.
That said, DMC games tend to be quite easy until you unlock DMD difficulty where they actually become quite challenging because enemies become much more aggressive and gain stagger immunity on low health.

>>715878187
Based

>>715862750
TFW they will never make TEW3

>>715843494
Yakumo comes across as "this is the CHARACTER ACTION character" with no gameplay identity to call his own. He has a couple of NG's core system mechanics but also parries (the mechanic every fucking combo system seems to need in current year), instant weapon switching, Zandatsu, long hangtime on air combos, a weapon selection that's insanely eclectic (a big hammer and a rapier?), and an edgy youthful energy about his design and personality. Nero, V, & Viola all added something distinct to not just their series but the genre as a whole (whether you like playing as them or not), Yakumo doesn't really have anything we haven't seen before. Given he's a greater focus than Ryu, that's likely cascading throughout the whole game's design.

At the end of the day I don't think the game is going to be bad, but I don't think it's very inspired either. Not the trainwreck NG3 was, but still as "trend-chasing" as 3 in the sense that it's doing the juggles and parries and flashy effects everybody associates with action games just like how NG3 was copying 7th gen blockbuster action games and God of War.

>>715881423
>I don't think the game is going to be bad, but I don't think it's very inspired either.
You just described NG as a whole.

>>715862117
It's very clear the team at TN knows they can't do an NG like the old ones, why else would they outsource two games in the series while going right back to making another Nioh? They put Hayabusa secret bosses in their games and NG-like moves/weapons because they know what brought them there, but after NG3 they also know that games like Black & 2 are not in them anymore. 2 Black is basically them saying "yeah Sigma 2 isn't very good but we lost the original so here's a version of S2 that's worth playing" and it's basically just a bandaid.

>>715862173
This game is really great even when you can feel the game rubbing up against the budget every few minutes (cutscene animation, Jack being considered on the ground while in midair at random, some very simple bosses with phases of i-frames to prevent them from being focused down too fast, skill tree paced in such a way to require replays to fill it out). If that team at Soleil had the resources TN & MS are affording Platinum they'd probably make a great NG. Shame it's delisted, but I suppose it'll live on through word of mouth and physical copies in the wild (+ piracy) like Devastation.

>>715878187
I wish we got another one of these, it was surprisingly fun but I feel like the marketing made it hard to tell what kind of game it was. All the trailers made it look like some walking sim VN with minigames, I had to get it from /v/ that it was a zelda-like. Would have liked to see a sequel that was a bit longer. Also hebe bayo is sexier than adult bayo

>>715843494
AAA IM FUCKING HYPED

>>715881760
04/Black is very much an inspired take on the original Ninja Gaiden games, one of the best "jumps to 3D" of any classic IP. 2 at least had the idea of "what if we threw as many enemies as the system can handle at the player and then a couple more?". Dragon Sword is also one of the most inspired uses of the DS as a system too in terms of its presentation & control (which works pretty well overall).

3 was chasing God of War & Uncharted so bad, 3RE just retrofit ideas from 2 into that framework, and 4 is just what people who barely play action games think they all should play like because they've only played DMC5 and Bayo 2 and FFXVI. I'll still take what 4 is going for than 3 but it definitely feels like a one and done type of game in a genre built for replay value.

>>715856753
Modern Team Ninja has a more consistent output of great action games than classic Team Ninja.

>>715881870
It got delisted? Man that sucks, I really wanted to get that game on Steam someday.

>>715871534
For sure. I can't wait for Itagaki's next game.

>>715882239
"Classic Team Ninja" only really made 04/Black/2/DS/Sigma, after that a lot of that core staff left around the time Itagaki got ousted. Sigma 2, 3/3RE, Nioh and so on are all "modern" Team Ninja. They've put out a bunch of good to great games but NG3 is the worst game developed under their banner followed by Sigma 2 and then Wo Long. If you include DOA then while the drop-off in quality is sometimes overstated it definitely peaked in the 00s.

>>715881423
I'm fine with whatever the fuck Platinum is doing, it's just that I don't want them doing NG4. They are always doing Sentai/Sc-Fi games and it shows with all of their titles, both through visuals and gameplay/themes/weapons.
NG was always 80s martial arts, especially the weapons. Why the fuck are they putting Amy Rose's giant hammer instead of nunchucks? And that giga drill? Just make Teppen Gurren Lagann licensed game and not NG4.

>>715878082
zombie nigga in dmc doing one super slow attack doesn't count, play bmups or ninja gaiden if you want to see real enemy design

>>715882901
I'm sure they'd love to do that too but they NEED the money and Team Ninja & Microsoft waved a wad in their faces.

>>715843494
that goes insanely hard

>>715882097
No-one remembers but NG3 vanilla has a kind of free flow combat system, where the game magnetizes you to the next enemy. Even with Arkham/Asscreed combat they experimented, I'd say it works better because it keeps classic NG combat. Vanilla had potential shit like; Struggle system, SOB, cicada (try counter attack), rework of guillotine throw, dash to OT

>>715882239
>great action games
name them
>inb4 Nioh
lmao, also not action games

>>715882375
Should've listened.

>>715884642
Nioh is more of an action game than devil mid cry

>>715843494
No hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits no buy

>>715885096
That's fair

>>715881870
>>715882375
I remember it sitting on my steam wishlist waiting for the next sale when I got notified it got delisted a little too late. Managed to grab it from epic game store right around when it got delisted on steam, not sure if its still there tho.

>>715843494
platinum was a mistake.

https://youtu.be/QZCU4L2ykRA
today I will remind them

>>715885821
I don't disagree with the title but I'm not watching 40 minutes of some mushmouth swarthoid

you guys werent kidding when you said dmc1 had the best enemies, itsuno combat design is such a joke

>>715886248
>itsuno combat design is such a joke
Him directing DMC2 wasn't enough of a bad sign?

>>715886376
He didn't make DMC2 THOUGHEVERBEIT

>>715886376
Retard.

>>715843494
>Everyone on twitter, reddit and discord is shitting on this, even diehard shills
Aboubouh, my opinion is vindicated by losers online. Please agree with me!

>>715886376
trvthnvke

>>715843494
I know DMC is the boogeyman for Ninja Gaiden fags but even DMC air juggling doesn't look this bad and weightless.

>>715886462
>>715886532
Yes he did. Capcom tried to save his reputation by making up that mystery fall guy. He was and always has been a hack.

>>715886726
Bruh, DMC4/5's jump cancelling's nonsense.

>>715886934
>Schizo delusions

>>715885002
All Nioh is is a bootleg souls clone

the combo wankery killed this genre, instead of focusing on fighting crowds of tough enemies like bmups or other action titles like bayo or ng do, dmc casuals shilled the idea that every good action game must be 90% combos 10% fighting enemies, dmc 5 fell for this reddit idea of dmc and has the dryest gameplay of the series

>>715887225
True but at least secondaries out themselves when they want that shit.

>Threads are still more about gatekeeping what "REAL Action Games" are and aren't and arguing over why they're dead (despite this being one of the most consistent genre topics on the board over the years)
Same as it ever was

>>715843494
Looks good to me

>>715886670
Can you even beat normal mode while being so braindead? This is the equivalent of beating dmc 3 with only stinger. Probably possible.

>>715886934
>actual tinfoil hat posting
Fucking kek.

>>715887650
>Probably possible.
Nope. Blood things exists. Fuckers will multiple infinitely if you spam stinger. That won't work on fallen or dullahans either.

>>715886670
Nigga the main complaint about GOW combat is not that it's braindead but that niggas are fucking spongy. With grab and L2 being their best tools on lower difficulties. And higher difficulties being endurance battles. Has anyone played goow?

>>715887167
>>715887797
IT'S TRUE

rise of ronin makes my pc scream
the frames are rock solid, but no matter what settings, upscaling and frame gen i try my pc is on constant jet engine mode
wish i knew how to make it stop

>>715888117
Prove it then.

>>715888191
I can't reveal my sources.

>>715887225
>the combo wankery killed this genre
bayonetta and ninja gayden always had bad sales
this genre died because almost no one bought these games

>>715887225
>bmups
beat em ups are obsolete thanks to fighting games

>>715888238

>>715887167
>>715887797
Why wouldn't they credit the director for his work on DMC2? Just this one specific guy we don't know the name wasn't included in the credits somehow and we only know of him because of Itsuno's interview a decade later after the game's release. Seems legit.

>>715888343
This is somehow the dumbest post in this thread so far.

>>715888396
yes fighting games killed both genres shmups and beat em ups
deal with it

>>715888570
>fighting games killed shumps and beat em ups
>All three are basically at varying stages of decline or straight up dead

>>715888728
are you stupid or something?
dragon ball fighterz sold 10 millions and tekken 8 sold 3 millions
shmups are dead
beat em ups are barely alive mostly thanks to streets of rage 4

>>715889015
>dragon ball fighterz
Because it's dragon ball you moron

>Tekken 8
Yeah and it's shit, next you're gonna tell me DMC2 is a good game since it sold a lot.

that dbfz guy is our biggest little schizo

>>715843494
0/10 literally unplayable.

>>715889080
>Because it's dragon ball you moron
excuses
>Yeah and it's shit
there are over 5000 players and the netcode is decent
tekken 8 is a good game

>>715888728
Beat em ups are actually in a renaissance of popularity this decade, the big successes of River City Girls, SoR4, and Shredder's Revenge have lead to a bit of a boom. When publishers sitting on random licensed IP are getting cheap pixel art beat-em-ups made to capitalize, you know it's on the rise. Shmups have basically been in the same place they've been since the mid-late 90s until now; the dedicated playerbase will play and let each other know about basically anything worth playing and they're pretty easy/cheap to make if you know what you're doing on the design side.

Fighting games are probably having the bubble burst in the next 3-5 years though with Tekken 8 being rejected, SF6 being in a holding pattern out of fear it'll pull a T8, SNK not finding the AAA success the Saudi marketing budget pushed for, international travel declining due to the economy and the state of the US, and the critical mass of tag fighters on the horizon. Marvel Tokon will do well, SF6 will remain because it's SF, and the rest will fend for themselves.

>>715889368
I preferred T8's launch state to 7 (which I found to be a pretty middle of the road entry that succeeded because it was low-budget no-frills entry that people knew the IP's future rested on) but it's been patched into the dirt and monetized pretty poorly to boot.

>>715843494
Ahahahahahahha, NG4 is a Temu DMC, how fucking ironic, ahahahahahahah, my sides.

>>715889434
>the dedicated playerbase will play and let each other know about basically anything worth playing
this is bullshit
no western player can beat old raiden games or tatsujin ou and very few players can beat progear 2 loop
most of them are posers who play easy games like zero ranger

>>715889648
Please stop...

>>715889648
Retard

>>715889618
>it's been patched into the dirt
i like anime fighters so i like tekken 8
the best defense is offense

>>715889805
>>715889849
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>715860998
You can say this about every boss in existence, retard

>>715889734
Being bad at games doesn't make you a poser if you still play those games.

>>715886376
Holy mother of shit bait

>>715890102
>Being bad at games
well they are bad players because they barely play shmups

>>715889368
5000 players is nothing retard

>>715889805
>>715889849
NG fags on suicide watch

Are Bayonetta 2 & 3 really that bad compared to Bayo 1? I liked Bayo 1 just fine but wouldnt consider it a system seller quality title

People in my area are hard dumping their switch 1’s at a really low price. I can get a cib switch 1 in supposedly perfect condition for $100. I’ll probably pick one up to play the 4 games it has (Bayo 2&3, BotW, Mario Wonder)

>>715890042
thank you for getting my point, 1v1 bosses are a bad design in general

>>715890503
for a fighting game thats a great number

>>715890609
>Are Bayonetta 2 & 3 really that bad compared to Bayo 1?
Seems like you had a casual fun time with 1. In that case you will like 2 more and feel divided on 3. If you're this committed to play NSW Bayonetta games. Consider origins.

>>715890609
You're better off playing BOTW on CEMU, I'm pretty sure that applies to Bayo2 as well.

>1
unless you have nostalgia it’s considered slow and boring in 2025
>2
unanimously hated by the fanbase. So bad you are not even supposed to mention it
>3
the only good game in the franchise and it’s 20 year old
>4
literally unfinished but they still released it to squeeze money out of the starving but loyal fanbase
>5
really repetitive even for a 10 hour game. many on /v/ say it’s the worst game ever

>>715890609
2 is a much smoother experience to play through with cooler bosses/weapons and a marginally better story with less depth at its core and worse scoring, on a single playthrough level you'll like 2 the most probably. 3 is going for a bunch of new things and only some stick but it improves on some of 2's missteps while falling for others again and having a much worse story (if you care) and marginally less interesting art & music.

I go 1 > Origins > 3 > 2 myself but they're all good and like I said, if you only play each game once to hit credits you'll likely be much fonder of 2.

>>715891397
Mario Sunshine wasn't that bad.

>>715891617
Kek

>open Action Thread
>it's just NG schizo thread
>electric underground screencap
Action, shmups, bmups fags are mentally ill.

>>715892062
First time?

>>715891459
I wish they ported Bayo 2 & 3 on PC.

>>715892062
>mentally ill
look who's talking

>>715842083 (OP)
Is the Xbox 360 version the definitive Bayonetta 1 experience?

>>715892062
Still better than Rhythm gamers, ASSFAGGOT gamers, Gacha gamers and Visual Novel "gamers".

>>715892664
By definitive, you mean the true 1080p resolution?

>>715892740
>Rhythm
fuck you

>>715892937
>entire genre is QTE-ing, BUT TO SICK ASS TRACKS!!!!11

>>715893007
Nothing wrong with that even if the high end of difficulty is probably the most insane of any of the arcade genres (and not in a good way), though Rhythm being applied to other genres is when it really shines.

>>715893084
>other genres
>really shines
What my action/hack'n'slashes needed, more QTE's and repetitive patterns...

>>715893007
its still requires precision because the timing windows are tight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Utu_PSmvs

>>715892740
>ASSFAGGOT gamers
They're above actionkeks. If your game doesn't have competitive PVP it's not a real game at all.
>duuuude look how fast I'm killing retarded mobs in NG!!!

>>715893225
>

>>715893171
HFR is excellent so yeah.

>>715893171
>repetitive patterns
every boss in this dying genre is repetitive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOjnkjFvV9c

>>715893171
>repetitive patterns

>>715893227
>play ASSFAGGOTS
>duuuude look how fast I'm killing retarded mobs in lane/jungle
>duuuuuuuuude Dragon/Rift
>duuuuuuuuuuuude come do the river mob!
>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude you have to last hit and then freeze wave, also push on 3rd wave, trade- all in then if you don't win FREEZE AGAIN
LMAO?!?!
The highest gameplay of ASSFAGGOTS is just PVEing until someone fucks up, assuming draft wasn't raped.

Arena FPS or whatever CS is, is more expressive on the individual than ASSFAGGOTS.

>>715881423
I think this game is really bad but i'll admit that the pseudo trick weapon system yakumo has is a good concept...but most gameplay isn't showing that off and when they do the blood weapons just seem really really strong so you only use them a small amount of the time cuz of meter

>>715893323
It's alright, and held back by those things.

>>715866789
>pretend active weapon switching isn't a good addition everyone wanted
t. doesn't play ninja gaiden

>>715893478
>The highest gameplay of ASSFAGGOTS is just PVEing until someone fucks up, assuming draft wasn't raped.
If it's true why you don't just play ASSFAGGOTS competitive and become a millionaire? It's pretty simple after all LMAO LOL. Oh wait you need to paly against real people and not retarded npcs LMAO.

>>715843912
Nah he’d be on the NOI black supremacist program calling people kindred and shit

whats up with this pvp retard coming to these thread and shilling low quality slop no one cares about?

>>715866789
Show a 9 hit air combo with the dual swords then.

>>715893743
>If it's true why you don't just play ASSFAGGOTS competitive and become a millionaire?
None of that is fun, and I would rather struggle to get into the CS2 scene or a Fighting game than ASSFAGGOTS, because the former are more fun genres.
>paly
Ah, I insulted the BR League/Dota community. Seethe in low ELO, no ASSFAGGOT millionaire is on here.

>whats up with this pvp retard coming to these thread and shilling low quality slop no one cares about?
I thought action games are for skilled players.

>>715884642
Nioh 1+2, SoP, Wo Long, RotR.
SoP and WL don't have stamina bars and WL has a jump button.

>>715893908
Sigma is so shit compared to Black.

I think NG4 looks good, but I don't like the other ninja gaidens, so that's probably a bad sign

>>715893939
>juggleslop
Yawn

>>715893823
>low quality slop no one cares about
the hack n slash is almost dead

Nioh 3 is going to outshine ng4 so hard

>>715893994
keep saying it

>>715893939
Now do that on a boss.

>>715890609
2 is the best in the series imo the cancerous minigames, gimmick levels and setpiece bosses went into remission briefly but came back with a vengeance in 3

>>715893994
>Black.
shitagaki is a hack

>>715894189
The mech section in 2 is worse than any of the minigame shit in 1 and 3.

>>715893881
>None of that is fun
Yeah. This is the reason why you can't stomp competitive ASSFAGGOT (ez game) pvp scene with your actionkek skillset. Who the fuck cares about free money amrite?

>>715894230
Yes, ASSFAGGOTS are gay and you're too gay to into RTS, be it PVE or PVP.

You call it gameplay?

>>715871961
>more tought has been put into NG combat than in most games of the genre.
This actually comes directly from classic beat em up design. I've started getting into the genre and i'm starting with just Streets of Rage 2 on Mania (highest difficulty) and yeah, there are enemies that will anti-air you, enemies that will go out of there way to grab you or inversely punish you for being too close and instantly grab you, enemies that will try to circle around to flank you, a few enemies will even purposefully punish the recovery of some of your moves every time if they're close enough and don't get hit.

SoR2 on Mania is a game where you WILL take damage, just like NG. Jumps are extremely useful as both a way to dodge attacks and of course to move around and reposition, just like NG, Just funny to see all of the similarities with the foundational design. It really shows how simplistic DMC comes off in comparison

>>715894350
RTS genre is for Asians. Intellectually superior races have genetic APM cap.

Limitless.

>>715886248
DMC1 enemies are quality vs quantity
DMC3 enemies are quantity vs quality.
I don't know if it's hardware limitations or what. Most DMC3 enemies are EXTREMELY one note but the "advantage" of this is that there are now multiple enemy types on screen.....sometimes. In fact any of the enemies that have more than one attack are usually in a group all by themselves, no other enemy types.

I think DMC4 is actually a huge step up though.

>>715894627
And ASSFAGGOTS is a diet version of that where most your APM is checking on what other lanes, that aren't in your control, are doing. Also ran by Asians.

>>715894627
the best starcraft 2 player is serral
you are dumb

>>715894753
DoA is not a good fighting game

>>715894940
>the best starcraft 2 player is serral
Maybe on planet retard.

>>715843494
sad to see

>>715871534
to be fair, bloated movesets only really started in dmc4. in dmc3 there's very few truly useless moves, and let's not even talk about how focused dmc1 is. both series do different things
i only played mgr out of platinum games but you don't juggle much there either. aerial moveset is limited enough anyway. vanquish also looks good
as for kamiya... play god hand

>>715893823
I've noticed you say something like this every time a MP game is brought up. What's wrong retard, too scared to face a real challenge?

>>715887208
Just say thank you to team ninja for taking souls features and making a good game out of them

>>715895096
shut the fuck up
serral is better than maru

>>715843494
Pfffffahahahahahahahahaha
ahahahahahahahah
This is DMC / Senran Kagura / Valkyrie Drive tier

>>715894938
ASSFAGGOTS isn't APM gookclicker. Unlike RTS (gookclickers) it has strategy and tactic. It utilizes basic level of APM needed for multitasking in RTS. And of course teamplay. The apex of skill.

>>715895178
this is my first time making a post like this...? besides, I have plenty of time spent in fighting games and some shooters, the modern ones are dogshit so I dropped them

And some people still pretend that Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry aren't mutually exclusive and you can't like one without hating the other.

>>715895452
>this is my first time making a post like this..
No. We know. They know.

>>715895412
Micro-Macro, and technical skill WOULD require APM brapslut.
The only thing is has is 9 other retards to blame on when a thing goes bad, since you've been sucking off the genre I assume you're in the pro-scene?

>>715895540
You can like both but it would be like if people constantly talked about Resident Evil and the Last of Us because they're in the same "genre". Two games that are technically same at the most basic level but are ultimately take very different approaches to where they end up not being that similar at all.

>>715895540
as a ng shill I gotta say old dmc was mid, but not as bad as dmc5, that shit made combos so braindead easy and enemies got so retarded its insane

>>715895598
maybe I forgot

Rising Zan bros, we're finally getting a sequel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkffc-DQlp8

>>715895452
>the modern ones are dogshit
typical excuses

>>715895732
>You can like both
No you can't.

>>715895860
I spent 800 hours in temu8 before dropping it lil bro

>>715895619
>The only thing is has is 9 other retards to blame on when a thing goes bad
This is why ASSFAGGOTS will always be above RTS. Teamplay is apex of skill even IRL.
>I assume you're in the pro-scene?
No. I make it up on the fly.

>>715894938
>Also ran by Asians
Dota (the highest skill, highest IQ ASSFAGGOTS game) is dominated by euros and russians

>>715895825
I have no respect for games like this. They're skinwalking the games they're inspired by with little to show for it . Directly taking attack animations from god hand with a bad artstyle, bad physics. Nothing original beyond a more direct western theme (which is boring). There's also the implication that the game only as one attack button based on some of the button prompts.

This isn't made by someone that has an idea, this is made by someone who just wants to make the same game he likes which is the second most disgusting type of indie dev after the indie dev who makes low effort streamerbait or friendslop

>>715842083 (OP)
>/
hope NG is more like 3RE instead of 2

>>715843494
Platinum fixed Ninja Gaiden!!

>>715896394
But it's an indie game so people will buy it while giving it 10 out of 10 while yelling that indies are "saving gaming".

Indie developers don't need to put any effort because being indie is an automatically I WIN hack.

>>715896394
>Directly taking attack animations from god hand
I do them IRL. My unique moves.

>>715894762
So you're saying many DMC3 enemies have specific roles and even when they have few attacks they combine them together by nature of being in groups to punish your approach in different ways? Why that sounds like classic beat em up design.

>>715895753
Your hatred of DMC5 is so boring. It's like it's all your entire world revolves around.

>>715843494
Kino.

>>715896549
>DMC3 enemies have specific roles and even when they have few attacks they combine them together by nature of being in groups to punish your approach in different ways?
its just a bunch of jobbers, not as deep as bmups

>>715843494
This is so fucking stupid

>>715894762
>I think DMC4 is actually a huge step up though.
holy shit bait

>>715896790
filtered rollslopper

>>715896394
>>715896524
Sir, take your meds

>>715896394
i thought you were a schizo rambling about retarded shit that only happens in your head,but you are right,they fucking crtl c crtl v all the freaking moves from Gene in God Hand,wow,lazy as fuck.

>>715896394
>>715896895
>God hand made attack moves

>>715881423
>all this gibberish just to say Yakumo got more effort put into him than every other debut character combined, all while overlooking his standout traits like stance switching in favor of retarded zandatsu comparisons when the only similarity is the kanji
Actual downsyndrome incarnate, can tell you're some twitter subhuman trying to fit in by parroting muh parry!!!! narratives as if every parry is the same or older games had none. NG has always been eclectic in everything, not just weapons, and it's been chasing trends since the first entry with adventureslop elements. Kill yourself.

>>715896961
retarded zoomer

>>715896549
SoR2 has more depth to it's an enemy design than DMC3 and it came out nearly 15 years earlier. Every enemy in that game has multiple different AI behaviors and functions.

Donovans, which are the second most prevalent enemy type will flank you, attack if you get too close, and more importantly anti-air the player within a certain distance, which makes one of your best movement tools dangerous to use without good spacing.
Compare this to the hell pride, who even on DMD who hardly move and will literally stare you in the face before deciding to attack. Hell Lusts are only a little better in that their attacks will move them forward but....that's all they have, they too won't actually move much beyond using this attack.

>>715896989
We don't label ourselves here

>>715896394
>streamerbait or friendslop
>Make a silly co-op game
>This is bad apparently

I like both NG and DMC.

>>715897041
but i am talking about you,thats why i am responding to you,mongoloid

>>715897142
First, learn English saar then respond to me.

>>715896989
I beat kids from my school before God Hand was even in development phase. My moves were stolen by dirty japs.

>>715897195
>perfect english
>bb-b-bb-ut mhu english
cope subhuman

Someone should just make a final fight streetwise clone but with God hand moves

The joke being that streetwise was so fucking shit that Mikami made God hand as a response to it because he hated it that much

>>715897217
pretending to be a retard is your only passion in life? must be sad be you

>>715897318
Cope

>>715897373
the irony...

What games should I play to become NGschizo? I want to see situation from different PoV. Played only
>Nioh
Kusoge, Ki pulsing is trash.
>DMC5
Kino
>DMC4
Can't remember
>DMC3
Kino
>God Hand
Kino
>MGR
Kino

>>715896961
God Hand uses the exact attack animations used in that video, with similar effects.

>>715897095
I said low effort for a reason. These devs don't have to put much effort into stuff like actual game design, they just have to add the most basic game elements then something goofy or "scary" and bam, you're a millionaire
but look it's not just that those games can find success it's about the people who try to copy the success of those games, who just want to make low effort slop purely for money and it FLOODS the market with this bullshit. You can think of recent successful examples but what you aren't thinking about is the dozens and dozens and dozens of games that are similar to that that didn't find that success but will still fill up the page list of indie games, making stuff that someone put real effort into or has some real unique ideas much harder to find and break out.

>>715897384
>no argument
>lowercase no punctuation
Learn English.

>>715897442
>What games should I play to become NGschizo?
beat em ups, shumps, just 1cc arcade games in general

>>715897524
>>lowercase no punctuation
actual lmaoing,in this shithole do you think anybody cares about that shit but you? u understand what i am saying,thats enough for your kind

>>715897449
>who just want to make low effort slop purely for money and it FLOODS the market with this bullshit.
But that applies to everything, we have VS clones, Slay the spire clones, AI shit clogging up everything, and before that it was RPGmaker shit being crapped out with zero effort, and before all that it was bargain bin military FPS clones of CoD

>>715897524
>i love sucking cocks btw if you didn't notice

>>715897740
>u
Learn English.

>>715897449
>I said low effort for a reason.
Antonio, it's a no name no one cares game from amateur no name one man army dev. It's like artist studying old masters to getting good at drawing. Just think about it. How can (You) make an action game in 2025 when everything, every existing genre was already solved and perfected by veteran devs? and how can you do all this without making a "real game:". Idea is a meme.

>>715871534
1 autist with a specific hatred of dmc, do not think this is an opinion shared by anyone.

>>715897740
>look I'm le silly edgy who cares this is shithole XD
The people you should avoid are those who speak in faux-apathetic lowercaps at all times. To be clear, I'm not talking about people who speak without grammar in game in order to get their messages out faster. I'm talking about those who sit down to compose an image board post with all the time in the world and willfully choose to omit punctuation and capitalization. They are not doing this to save time. In fact, they may take additional time to redact habitual grammar from their posts.

Their motivation for this style of posting is simple. They are trying to present an aura of apathy. They want to communicate: "I don't care about anything, least of all the rules of grammar." The reason they work so hard to cultivate this image of emotional invulnerability is because they are, in actual fact, extremely emotional and unstable people. If you become close to them you will catch glimpses of the volatility lurking beneath their patchwork mask of cool indifference. The lowercaps poster will silently catalog transgressions you have in its eyes committed. You will only become aware of them during the rare tantrum blowups that characterize these people. They must be avoided for your own good. The faux-apathetic lowercaps posters really could not be more pathetic.

>>715897780
That stuff, other than arguably VS clones, have to have actual game design. Streamerbait and friendslop games don't need actual game design. Literally having a randomoly generated map with some spooky stuff in a co-op setting is enough for some people.

>>715894078
The crazy thing about SoP is that it isnt juggle slop, Doing a combo like that is class specific and difficult to do because juggling isnt pushed to the gameplay.
If you watch any other gameplay you aint going to see juggles like that at all.

>>715897995
>How can (You) make an action game in 2025 when everything, every existing genre was already solved and perfected by veteran devs?
There are a ton of ideas, especially with a God Hand base to start from. I have pages and pages of various ideas. I have a few big design docs that outline actual fully fledged game ideas. I'm literally working on one right now.
>perfected
Hardly. This genre has a lot to grow.

The only real challenge an indie dev faces is good graphics/artstyle to make their game actually appealing which is half the reason people give a shit about these games in the first place. Good understanding of animations and impact is like step 1 and many indie action games (including the one above) don't even have that so it will never feel like a fun game to play. If you're game LOOKS good, people will be interested enough to look into it.

>>715897582
>shumps
I heard shumps are just memorization tests for autists and not real games. Especially considering that one of the biggest shumps loving ecelebs play video games with turned off music.

>>715898505
that may be true (I mean idk I never played them), but they fit within the general ng schizo tough game tough enemies vibe

>>715898475
>I'm literally working on one right now.
If it's true, than you're victim of dunning kruger effect. You're dooming yourself. Ideas are nothing.

>>715898505
>I heard
hrm maybe your should try them? Zeroranger is beginner friendly and all around cool

>>715898475
>ideas
lol

>>715896990
Hell Prides are the single most prevalent basic enemy type so would be more comparable to Galsia, while Donovans are at least tied or less prevalent than Signals, so already we're off to a bad start. All of the enemies mentioned will move closer to, around and surround you and often wait for a moment or back up before attacking, however Hell Prides swing far more often the moment they reach you, jump forward to close gaps and can also block to act as obstacles while others approach. Signals "are only a little better in that their attacks will move them forward", very similar to Hell Lusts except they also can launch you and their attacks themselves are evasive and mobile backwards as well as forwards. You can actually compare them directly and see how often the enemies attack and act, rather than take often repeated views at face value.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GXbOJ-sg5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYK98FsY11U

Is this the ultimate action tier list?

https://tiermaker.com/list/video-games/ultimate-action-game-tier-list-v2-15540327/5332942

>>715843494

>>715843494
Why are you not getting punished mid air

>>715896129
sure pal
i believe you

>>715899808
There's a bunch of games I'd move a tier up or down and there's a bunch of good games in the X tier (which I assume is "didn't play"), plus despite being a pretty up-to-date list it's missing a few indies I'd put in S/A/B-tiers. So no, but it's one the most comprehensive-looking templates I've seen barring those few indies.

>>715900087

>>715900175
What indies would you add?

>>715900362
>800 hours in 2nd dan

>>715900518
the copium has begun

>>715843494
Looks more and more like a generic action game with each new video.

>>715900385
Magenta Horizon for sure since that would go in S. Aces Wild, En Garde, & Aztez as well. It could open up way more if more traditional beat-em-ups were on there but that would be adding a ton of other games, though if action-platformers like Viewtiful Joe are there then there are a few more games that could be slipped in there like Gravity Circuit and Shinobi 3DS.

There's also upcoming games that might as well go on it for the future like NG Ragebound & 4, Shinobi AoV, MightReya, and Dead as Disco but obviously one couldn't rank them now.

>>715900942
Not my list but noted

>>715900942
En Garde is a disappointment in a lot of areas, not even noting aesthetics. I feel the game only rewards playing like a bitch and looking for lanterns/buckets and trying to funnel in enemies one by one.

>>715893939
>SoP and WL don't have stamina bars and WL has a jump button.
It's still a mostly 1v1 duel slop where your character is glued to the floor

>>715894078
Never played it award

>>715901583
Wrong on both counts. Both games have a huge variety of group fights and several attacks that put you in the air.

>>715902034
Pretty much only 1v1 fights in sop are bosses or when they introduce a new enemy. Feels balanced for coop but equally fun as just jack

>>715843494
Looks too accessible

>>715902507
If anything I would say it's balanced even more around solo Jack due to such a heavy emphasis on crowd control options.

>>715898505
>memorization tests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr4yuGk8nXY
you are an idiot

>>715902691
Yeah that too. The game has a lot of options in general for different playstyles. Only one I'd argue that has you glued to the ground is playing katana since you'll likely just go into senshin stance.

>>715898987
>I am dumb and incompetent so you must be too!!!
There are a lot of things to do in action games, a lot of ideas or extensions of others. Again god hand is a good example because there aren't any other action games with that control scheme. Making something that takes the basic idea of "close up fist based combat with right stick to dodge" can lead to a lot of different ideas. you could try that with weapons like swords or try combining it with guns kind of like RE4, you could also just combine it with other action game mechanics like adding jumps and air juggles or something. I'm just throwing those out there as quick examples of adding onto the God Hand base. Even just the idea of "action game that has a fully customizable moveset". What other action games have that? Remember me? Strangers of Paradise lets you customize your combo enders which is cool but you still have the core moveset of your weapon that can't be changed. Ninja Gaiden is also a great base and you have 3 different games that all have slightly different bases, you could create something like ninja gaiden 1 but maybe you throw in some type of mechanic similar to shinobi PS2's mark/instakill mechanic or maybe you go harder on movement, add in dive kicks, the ability to flip off of enemies, le grappling hook, etc.
There's also just good ole refinement, tightening up gameplay, add better enemy design, more customization or movesets that feel more deliberate

These aren't ideas i'm working on, they're just stuff im throwing out there. There's a lot to work with and a lot of potential in this genre and it's up to indie devs to make that stuff since the only thing we're getting is...ng4 which looks like complete ass. That's why i'm so heavily critical of the game earlier. It's not trying to be anything beyond "what if god hand again". Nothing in that trailer looked like it was showing any new ideas to not just action games but just god hand in general, it's literally just god hand.

>>715902971
Call me when you make playable unity demo, idea guy.

>>715871534
that's just your opinion bro

>>715902772
He's right. Shumps are dogshit and for trannies.

>>715900362
tekken fans have always cried about tekken
just remember tekken 4

>>715904023
Tekken 4 was dogshit nigga... And everyone loved t3, 5, 6, and 7

>>715899808
Going that broad makes it meaningless.

NG4 shills destroyed with facts and logic
https://x.com/Aki_Lightning_/status/1946265003381670160?t=av7eTefp3cxWxT1892B07A&s=19

>>715904360
nice mustard gas, faggot.

>>715847719
you don't need to run around him or jump over him on the bridge. you can jump on his wagon and land safe hits on him
you can stun him for good 10 seconds if you deal enough damage (Cerberus is great for this)
time slow orb makes the fight more tense because you must react twice as fast. you can also cancel it by touching the cancel orb or using quicksilver on the second playthrough
no idea what you are even talking about when it comes to the stage. are you talking about the Arkham arena in hell? that comes a lot later
also
>playing DMC on DMD
lol lmao even

if you don't main a style you didn't beat the game

>>715872770
Mark’s still one of the better gayman YouTubers but he can have some absolutely retarded takes sometimes
Guess it happens to everyone

>>715862173
I miss when Tartakovsky used to make kino

>>715902858
It depends on how you want to approach it and Senshin acts as a replacement of sorts by design, but even then katana at least has Hossha and Enpi which can go over attacks. Of course Heaven's Fall is there but that uses iframes not strictly going into the air, though the weapon's got a few mobility tools in general that stand out due to it not being its main focus.

>>715843494
FUCK YOU PLATINUM

>>715905664
Filtered

>>715905419
>SBT
Kino of the highest order.

>>715843494
the repliers to this are such posers lmao

>>715905419
He still does. Maybe his best work is behind him (Jack S1-4, Clone Wars & SBT) but he's still one of the best going.

>>715906097
>t. poser

>>715899504
>Signals "are only a little better in that their attacks will move them forward"
Not true. Signals do move around and they have additional AI where if you aren't facing them, they can come up and grab you. This is already a lot more complex than hell lusts. Even galsia's will move around and flank you.

>>715899808
jew spotted

>>715898101
>>715897949
what a loser u are holy shit,i went to play vidya and u are still going,kek, i will keep writing in lowercase just to bother you,get fucked
no dot at then btw,get fucked
also stop samefagging

>>715904360
NG juggles are a lot more fun than DMCs because there is a lot more weight to the characters and it's also completely unnecessary to juggle, it's just fun to style.

And no, I don't mean "launcher XXY" juggles, I mean freeform juggles like seen there.

>>715906273
I actually like this channel but his face didn't match his voice at all.

>>715843494
It's a lot better with sound, unironically.

>>715906648
nta but why didn't fiend Ryu get this skin instead of the generic one in NG2?

>>715871534
>Fights actually felt like life and death in NGB because enemies were actual threats
Ah yes, brown ninjas or flying cyclops bees are so dangerous. Kys

>>715906561
no dot at the end*

>>715893939
what gaem in the webm?

>>715906663
It's good to have a channel like this to show if it's worth playing certain games or not based on it's combat or just having a refresher but the quality between his videos vary quite a bit. In some videos it's literally just him telling you what the controls are and a quick list of enemy types and that's the video. Others he goes way more indepth exploring the mechanics and goes through literally every enemy in the game and strategies to beat them.

>>715906884

>>715871534
I sort of agree but it's mostly DMC4's fault. DMC3 is a very focused game with strict inputs, and I'd argue its only fault is that the default difficulty is way too easy.

>>715903832
>Shumps are dogshit and for trannies.
the bosses in your dead genre are a joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_84BafqQ4I
bosses in shmups are a real challenge

>>715843494
Why didn't they just make MGR 2, that would've been cool and it's clearly what they wanted to make. Even a spiritual successor if they couldn't get the license would've worked.

>>715878082
thing is NG enemies are out for your asshole like you owe them anal even on normal

>>715898101
>they may take additional time to redact habitual grammar from their posts.
projection

>>715904275
yeah sure
lets forget tekken tag 2
>5
tekken 5 was a broken mess
tekken 5 dark resurrection was released for a reason

>>715906970
Looks kino. If you can actually do stuff like that regularly outside of this very controlled looking environment I might need to pick it up

>>715843494
Setting aside the hovering combat this type of combat design will lead to, where you're out of harms way while hacking away at individual mobs, the second in-air combo hit effects are so out of sync with the attack animations. There's also a substantial delay, it really looks rough.

>>715898101
>with all the time in the world
speak for yourself, i am working while i text, you people don't deserve my time to put a fucking dot at then end of my sentences,kek
of course you have all the time in the world u are a loser who doesn't study nor work probably

>>715906891
Nobody can be that in-depth about everything. It was apparent from the get-go that he's most into NG and a few other games and he covers other games just to peel back the veil of everything other than those mechanics which can be useful in its own right. I think the DMC1 video where he makes a compelling case for it being a modernization of NES-style combat design is my favorite.

>>715907203
yeah, I unironically forgot tag games, everyone loved ttt1, ttt2 flopped, but years later retards started shilling it
>>5
>tekken 5 was a broken mess
>tekken 5 dark resurrection was released for a reason
yeah well whatever

Rate my taste

>>715907559
dmc too high so you should die

>>715907559
sekiro too high and putting it in the same tier as nioh is offensive.

>>715906178
Hell Lusts have AI where they will avoid your attacks and quickly hop around to circle at a distance so they can use their normal swings from behind if you attack something else, while using their backdash attack when up close to bait your offense, all while being substantially more mobile than many other enemies. And this is all trying to escape from the initial concept of enemy functions working in unison rather than being singled out, a core fundamental beat em up aspect.

The point I am trying to make here is that you're trying to dress up things that can be visible in all of these games as though they are special and unique only to beat em ups, which only results in you saying nothing of substance that arguably isn't even true. I don't think you've ever been challenged on these things despite them being so easily comparable. If you want to jack off 2D beat em ups in a way that speaks to their strengths, try focusing exactly on what they bring to the table in a unique way without trying to be needlessly antagonistic towards other games, especially when it results in such inaccurate hyperbole. You could have talked about how screenspace works differently as a 2D game, movement constraints or lack thereof, lanes, anything.

>>715907507
steve was broken in tekken 5
what about tekken 6 and bob?
you fuckers have always cried about tekken
no wonder bamco just ignores you

>>715907559
GH too low.

>replying to pasta

>>715906891
>basing your opinion on a game off of some shitters gameplay
the absolute state of this board

>>715907686
Nioh would be higher if it had enemies that are more fun to fight. I like how good sprinting is and Oda Nobunaga is my favorite boss from that game.
>>715907976
God Hand has a lot of room for improvement (especially with its camera and tank controls.)

>>715908154
What's the issue?

>>715907016
>default difficulty is way too easy
US version of dmc3 was harder, easy was = JP normal, and normal was = JP hard. special edition had 4 difficulties. it's kinda stupid to complain about default difficulty when you have options to increase it.

>>715887031
>DMC4/5's jump cancelling's nonsense.
doesn't let the animations finish because you're jump CANCELING them, causing the combo to look snappier and be more mechanically engaging. the ng4 clip is just watching 1 entire air combo play out and then instantly doing another one with a second air weapon complete with recovery. even dmc5's moon gravity will cause you to sink like a stone quickly if you actively just swap between weapons without using JC to reset the gravity

>>715908351
>I am an expert on this game because I watched some low level gameplay on youtube
Seems pretty in line with these threads so nothing.

>>715907505
>Nobody can be that in-depth about everything
Of course but it just makes the videos where he doesn't put much effort into it feel like a huge disservice if the game has actual depth. Even just further explaining why the game is ass would be nice.


>>715908154
Read what I said. It's good to see if a game might be worth checking out. Like i've vaguely heard that wolverine origins game was good but never heard much about it but his video did a good job showing off the cool stuff about the combat and it's on my list to play now.

>>715908213
Have you tried nioh 2? They flesh out the roster

wanted dead is the most dogshit action game ever fuck that youtuber for making the game look like its katana pistol kino when its just a third person shooter with minimal close combat gameplay

>>715907873
>Hell Lusts have AI where they will avoid your attacks and quickly hop around to circle at a distance so they can use their normal swings from behind if you attack something else, while using their backdash attack when up close to bait your offense
Prove it

>>715908954
You basically just want a fully fledged smash single player mode

>>715909168
a 3D subspace emissary, yes
with a dash of the lego games from Travelers Tales

>>715908954
You think you want this but you actually don't. Tailoring control schemes to how a character operates and how the game is designed allows for significantly more versatility in mechanical design and concepts. One of the biggest cancers in how current videogames are approached is the refusal to adapt to anything outside of the "norm" regardless of how well it functions or fits the subject. I also don't know why you keep posting about this instead of just making your video or game or whatever, surely you've leeched enough information by now.

>>715909071
I posted comparison videos already for a reason.

>>715909405
There needs to be some kind of conformity so actual game design can function. I think Smash mostly does a good job, though it has obvious restrictions because of how it works where some characters unique functions use really weird controls/systems so it can fit within the games uniform character inputs and controls

>>715908981
All gameplay I've seen from him did nothing but massive disservice to the games, easily the worst combat oriented channel out there.

>>715896654
What's wrong? You started with 5 lmao

>>715908965
>I am an expert on this game because I watched some low level gameplay on youtube
Not different from reading /v/ or technical manuals or memoirs. Low level? High level? Doesn't matter. There no way to prove anything here other than direct streaming (not even 100%)
If board is in "absolute state" what are you even doing here? You can find specialized forums where people put their skills behind nicknames and youtbue channels not Anonymous façade.
Playing video games is overrated btw.

>>715908954
Kys

>>715909405
>Tailoring control schemes to how a character operates and how the game is designed allows for significantly more versatility in mechanical design and concepts.
do most of the characters i included in that image not have controls similar to each other? a major point of me making that image is that because all of them have controls with overlapping functions, i could easily see them all being playable under the same roof. the variety would be in how each character would approach the same challenges the game presents.
>One of the biggest cancers in how current videogames are approached is the refusal to adapt to anything outside of the "norm" regardless of how well it functions or fits the subject.
this concept isn't intent on inventing anything new or even innovating on existing norms, it's just looking for variety through homogeny.
>I also don't know why you keep posting about this instead of just making your video or game or whatever, surely you've leeched enough information by now.
information probably, but not impressions and opinions.

>>715909921
just hide my post you ding dong

Can’t wait for Ninja Gaiden 4 to be hailed as the best game in the series, because it’s a DMC 5 clone.

>>715910442
Cvit and the Gaming Brit won

>>715907559
Larping as Matthewmatosis tier.

>>715910442
Same. Can't wait to play Ninja Kino 4. I enjoy the suffering of NGfags.

>>715908990
>Have you tried nioh 2?
Nope. I just finished Nioh 1 a couple of weeks ago.
>They flesh out the roster
That's nice. Are the Nioh 2 enemies more fun to fight?

>>715910547
Matthewmatosis is based tho

>>715904360
>NG3 apologist
He's a fag regardless

>>715910442
Ninjacucks mass suicide is guaranteed.

>>715907559
Mostly agree but how do you not have as single Ninja Gaiden

>>715909634
>There needs to be some kind of conformity so actual game design can function
Not really. Says who? What is "actual" game design as opposed to game design? That you bring up Smash is the crux of the issue, you're putting the cart before the horse. Smash has obvious restrictions and tries to fit vastly different characters into one system with concessions because it specifically aimed to be a crossover. It set out to fulfil that initial goal and in doing so made its own system that is different to all of them.
>>715910046
No, they don't really have similar controls at all outside of a very small handful of surface level instances which disregard the context of each game's design. It's not saying or presenting anything more than that either, there is much more to each game and character than having overlapping functions and trying to fit them all under one roof requires heavy concessions despite perceived homogeny. Basically any game with a roster of multiple characters deals with this in some way.

>>715910672
Nioh 2 adds a lot of new fun enemies, while also bringing back and enhancing basically all of the old ones with new tricks. Nioh 1 enemies were already a lot of fun to fight with how you could interact with them and the movesets on both sides but 2 expands on that massively.

>>715910442
Kek, genuinely can’t wait for it

>>715910943
>how do you not have as single Ninja Gaiden
I dunno. NG4 looks cool so I'll play that one when it releases.
>>715911118
My problem with Nioh 1 enemies is that they feel way too samey. Souls games also have this problem but at least most of their enemies are pretty simple so fighting them is enjoyable while in Nioh it's kinda annoying because they are complex and samey. The worst of both worlds.

>>715911635
Can't say I see that, yoki are pretty different from tengu which are very different from wheelmonks and even all three skeletons are quite different. The complexity as well plays a part in their variety, and while depleting Ki is a unifying factor there's a lot of ways to go about it so it keeps things fresh in that regard. Either way, there's a bunch of much more unique enemies in 2 like the snake tits and even how gakis work in groups, but in general if you liked Nioh 1 even a bit you just need to play Nioh 2.

>>715843494
>Yakumo gets to switch between 4 weapons
>Ryu gets to switch between 4 ninpos

>>715905419
>>715906079
>The series was canceled halfway through its run (even though Tartakovsky's team was making another 20 fucking episodes at the time back in 2011) all because the old executive guard of Cartoon Network left and were replaced by a new retarded guard that had zero respect for even the biggest creators, no matter how big of a portfolio and reputation they built throughout the years
>In 2024 Tartakovsky said that he STILL wants to return to Symbionic Titan and finish the series even after all those years

big return in the style of the last season of Samurai Jack would've been like a dream come true desu

>>715912124
>Can't say I see that
They are not all exactly the same but Nioh doesn't really try to make their strong points and weak points stand out. Like the fastest enemy isn't all that faster than the slowest enemy. I hope that clears out what I meant by saying "samey"

>>715910962
>Not really. Says who? What is "actual" game design as opposed to game design?
if the goal is some kind of giant crossover single player action game, then having characters with wildly different actions and especially amount of actions creates a big mess, characters need some stuff to ground them and allow them to have enough similarities between each other.

I'm not the guy who posted the image or proposed that system. I'm just talking in a general sense. Also, having a set amount of stuff a character needs can allow for a lot of creative solutions to give characters those tools. Again smash is a great example, characters that were never ever designed for a fighting system have some creative moves and toolsets and again it's in part because characters have to check off a list of actions.

Another part of conformity is that without it, characters can have too few or too many tools. Some characters can become overly strong because they have more tools or maybe they have less tools but because that's all they have it ends up being super strong.

I'm really scared about the active weapon switching. Those games are usually a joke when it comes to combos.

>>715913469
We won't be getting much in the way of nice things out of WB in a while. One of the creators of Megas XLR recently said that a revival for that show was greenlit but was canned by Zaslav.

>>715913513
Honestly I would disagree on that as well, the examples I gave have a pretty wide spectrum of speed, with Yokis there's the axe wielding ones and the kusarigama ones which are a stark contrast before also adding something like Magatsu Warrior. One thing that's pretty egregious in Nioh 1 especially in first playthrough though is that your damage output is massive without much effort, and I could see that making enemies feel samey since they don't get a chance to flex their uniqueness. Nioh 2 tries to fix that to a degree but it's particularly so in the later difficulties. Even before then though there's some insane enemies especially in the DLC regions and I don't want to spoil any of them.

>>715913808
Of course, which is why I said the reason it tries to follow a specific pattern is due to the game in question being a crossover. That doesn't have to be the case for every game though, and each game is designed with its own goals in mind which may or may not conflict. This is less about conformity between games and more about conformity or rather expectations within one game, and those are two extremely different concepts.

>>715842083 (OP)
"Character action" is a retarded name for this genre

>>715914162
That's fair. I personally more enjoy action game enemies that are designed like the ones from Viewtiful Joe because its enemies are all unique and their movesets are easy to learn and remember.

>>715888570
Mork it's time to let go

>>715915252
what?

>>715892062
I think I know why
You see, the people who you'd want to discuss games with aren't posting on /v/, they're actually playing games

>>715911635
>The worst of both worlds.
Could easily argue the opposite. Because the enemies are more complex, you have a chance to actually get good at them as you see them more and more across the game and obviously on later playthroughs. The purpose is for you to "git gud".

In souls games normal enemies are simplistic, which means "mastering" them takes very little time. By the time you leave the area they last appear in, you've likely no longer have an issue fighting them. There's no skill progression. If Nioh tried something similar, tying specific enemies to specific areas that you don't see as often then you'll leave the area before having mastered fighting them and then not have to fight them until NG+. Not as satisfying, I think.

>>715893939
I don't have time for this bullshit

>>715892062
seethe

Oooof. NG4 looks dogshit.

Anyways, been playing through Muramasa Rebirth via PS Vita emulator, pretty sick game.

>>715915630
>Oooof. NG4 looks dogshit.
Tbh I'm not really sure what anyone was expecting, I feel like this series peaked with NGB and every sequel has been a significant step down from the first game.

>>715915683
Re>2>4>b

>>715907559
>DMC higher than Sekiro and MGR
Gross
Also godhand sucks ngl

>>715915503
I also enjoy complex enemies but I had a hard time remembering the movesets of Nioh's enemies which is weird because I never had that problem with enemies from other action games.

>>715915683
For me NG was always the opposite of Assassins Creed. In Assassins Creed y
Your enemies don't fight back or attack you as you slay their comrade. In NG, you get attacked from all angles and enemies will punish you for doing combos that are too long

It wasn't really a combo game before. Now it seems you can seek safety in the air as you go for your EPIC combo

>>715915683
Team Ninja would've made a better game if they were at the full helm and I mean that unironically. Hate Nioh and the other games as much as you want but it shows a clear understanding of player actions vs enemy/boss design extremely well. I don't buy the excuse that TN doesn't think they're capable of doing it anymore.

My only hope EVER is that NG4 does well enough (but not too well) that koei-tecmo believes NG deserves another game but they kick platinum out and let TN make their own game which retcons any new mechanics from NG4 and Yakumo as a whole. If NG fails 100% there will never another NG game but I also don't want to support the Rape of Platinum Games

>>715915630
>Muramasa Rebirth via PS Vita
It's so boring tho, the level design sucks so much.

>watch mork action game video
>he constantly goes on about how EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD DESPISED GOD HAND
>the proof of this is a single IGN review
>every other outlet gave it good scores
>he now thinks because of that one review that every game reviewing poorly like Wanted Dead or Star Fox Zero or Gungrave Gore is a secret "arcade" masterpiece
>apart from that he literally doesn't comprehend action games and thinks you can dodge out of everything at all times
>needed to download a full save from boghog
>made a video on dmc 3 without finishing DMD

>>715915931
Its a bit mindless, I like to mash on it to relieve stress after dying 10x in a shmup

>>715915825
I don't know, maybe you didn't play the game enough. You didn't "master" them.

>>715886586
>>715887586
>>715896519
>>715896660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSxU80akXB4

dmc4 is so fucking shit coming straight from dmc3, it feels like a 2025 remake of a classic

>>715915972
He's not perfect but he undoubtedly has good taste and recommends good games. With how much he sucks off Ninja Gaiden and shits on Sekiro I was really expecting Ninja Gaiden to have deep complex boss fights. Nope the bosses feel like puzzles, like adult versions of Mario games.

Not saying NG bosses aren't fun or are bad, I was just expecting a lot more.. Then seeing how terrible his Sekiro gameplay was, I stopped taking him as serious. Still he recommends good gems

>>715915972
I genuinely think that guy is the definition of dunning-kruger. Half of his opinions are taken directly from /v/, while his original opinions are either obviously retarded or he is terrible at explaining them.

Wanted: Dead is a good example. He does not make a single convincing point in that video that shows us why the game is good. All he says (at least from what I remember) is that everyone MISUNDERSTANDS IT! and that the game is really hard on the hardest difficulty! Journos are dumb!!!
>made a video on dmc 3 without finishing DMD
DMC3 DMD is dogshit

>>715843494
>X X X dodgeslop X X Y X X Y X X X X X X X X B X X
Sony moviegames have more varied gameplay

>>715915972
gungrave gore is considered an action game?? you just hold the shoot button and forward

>>715916336
Yeah but if you needlessly maximize your APM it becomes le heckin deep hidden gem

>>715907559
Although Automata is too high, based taste

>>715871534
Ok but in DMC3 Agni and Rudra were hard

>>715915893
Ah yes, because NG has never had EPIC combos that you can do in complete safety as a core mechanic before, and has never had using air time to avoid attacks while still being in danger of punishment.

>>715871534
>UT
Ninja gaiden's difficulty is really overrated

>>715916730
The air time wasn't nearly that long you little faggot. And if you ever did a combo that long in the OG games you would be interrupted halfway through if there were still enemies on the stage. Stop shilling slop for free you retarded nigger faggot

How was picrel? The demo for it came out a while ago but I don't see anyone talking about it

>starting your post with "ah yes"
Reddit is down the hall and to the left.

>knowing how reddit posts start
You should go back there NGfag

>>715916942
Literally a thread up right now (not that it's active). Open world is fine, it's not full open world + it still has missions you can select and replay like the previous games and the new thing called "The Crucible" is literally just a traditional level. "samurai" mode is even better than ever. Ninja is okay I guess. Onmyo stuff kind of got raped, not that I care. Guardian spirit attacks replace yokai skills. There were a decent amount of new enemies but not sure how to feel about them yet.

They're going to address beta feedback some time next month

>>715916912
>completely sidesteps the fact UTs exist in every game and offer vastly more safety more easily accessed than air combos in any NG including 4
Hilarious.

>>715916942
People talked about it a ton when it was happening but that was a while ago. It was amazing and has massive potential to be even better than Nioh 2, it takes basically everything and expands on it further. The only concern is them sticking the landing and while everything did return in some form they just need to have the same volume of options, but that's more likely to be due to it being an Alpha.
>>715917253
Onmyo's going to be just fine, or at the very least not all that different in function.

>>715917620
>Onmyo's going to be just fine
Maybe but it's changed how it will work. If it's going to have the master skill or w/e it's called that speeds up cast time then it's either going to be tied to a very rare armor skill or potentially an equippable skill you get later in the story (since you now have skills you can equip independent of armor/skill trees)

>>715905419
>>715913469

>>715917620
My thoughts exactly on nioh 3

>>715842953
i refuse to believe this was legit, there are so many sequences that he fails to move his arms in time to score the note

>>715916912
You don't get it anon, air combos were ALWAYS safe in NG

This thread is cooked.

>>715906097
Bro this looks worse than DmC's juggling.

>>715918901
Just wait till he tries nioh 2

Do you guys even like these games?

>>715918705
/vag/ has fallen.

>>715919027
>juggling.
juggling in this genre is a joke

>>715919045
I don't actually engage with most of the discussion since it's just 20+ years of pointless shit flinging about genre or something idk, I just talk about games I like when they get name dropped like SoP or Nioh. Still waiting for someone to mention Shinobi or Onimusha for ps2

>>715917792
It's changed but the way those changes manifest doesn't affect much of anything. There's basically no difference between having to do a lategame Dojo mission to unlock the fast cast Mystic Art, and having to fight someone at late game to get the fast cast Skill. That said I wouldn't mind them just making the fast cast a thing by default at this point.

>>715919140
I've thought about trying Onimusha with the new one on the way. How do they play? The bits and pieces I've seen make it look a lot like Resident Evil.

You guys ever feel discouraged from playing a game after watching someone really good at it? a level of play that you could never achieve so why even bother playing at all?
I wanted to try going for the SS rank on DMD but after watching this guy's run what's the fucking point, I play like shit compared to this.
https://youtu.be/WsNI9vywxG4?t=158
By the way I know he uses save states, it doesn't matter. I could not replicate this level if I tried 10000 times.

>>715919140
How do you feel about the upcoming Shinobi? Seems like it's much closer to the Genesis Shinobi games but with the sword powerup active at all times and the enemies being more chunky to compensate. It also has the killstreak mechanic from PS2 Shinobi but I wonder if it'll be a main mechanic or just there to be there.

>>715919045
I do, but it's impossible to have a discussion when you have faggots like the Itagaki webm shitposter that doesn't play and various other dishonest non-playing faggots

>>715919451
>TAS
Anon... what do you think TAS means?

>>715919451
damn
people in this thread are really dumb

Are there any casual-friendly cuhrazy action game like MGR?

I already played Bayoneta, DMC4 and 5 and I have Vanquish and All NG available on Steam as well as DMC 1-3 and I plan to play them.

>>715919379
>I've seen make it look a lot like Resident Evil.
The way DMC1 feels like a bizarro off shoot from resi, Onimusha feels that way too. Came out around the same time too but I think it's a bit more polished. I'd suggest pirating or buying the remaster since it introduces 3d controls which are very nice. The combat system is very tight. It nailed a great parry type system way back in 2001 where attacking an enemy just as their attack connects you evade and one shot them. You can chain this to basically screen wipe if you do it well. Additionally you get a taunt mechanic that gets enemies to just rush and attack you so as you get better you make use of the two of them to set up these chain insta kills. Don't like pre-rendered backgrounds fool you, it's very satisfying action albeit without complex move sets juggles etc.

>>715919461
I never played genesis ones, I was thinking more ps2 shinobi + nightshade. I actually wasn't even aware shinobi was getting a new game. Not that big on sidescrollers but I'll have a gander

>>715919495
I plan to play some NGB and NG 2 in the next few weeks.

>>715919451
Newfriend I...

>>715919623
Sekiro.

>>715919451
No, because I don't play games to be good at them. I play them to enjoy them and have fun. Getting good at them is a consequence of finding more things to enjoy and anything I do will be unique in that respect.

>>715919045
i only just started to get into this kind of game i am playing devil may cry 1 on the hd collection i am having fun with it

>>715919623
Nier Automata

>>715919623
LITERALLY the easy/normal modes
Although if you're a proper newfag to the genre and only played MGR, try playing DMC 5 next
It eases you in and isn't clunky or anything
Also don't take these threads that seriously, it's 95% funposting for its own sake just to feel human connection
Don't play DMC 2 or 4 though

>>715919623
Pretty much the entire platinum library including vanquish and bayonetta are very noob friendly while also allowing for a high skill ceiling. Those are a good place to start. Sounds like you already have a bunch of games to play before you need more.

>>715919379
I finished the first one not too long ago. very short and honestly incredibly easy. It has some good ideas but just way too short to really dig into it. I think each game gets longer with each entry so i'll get around to 2 eventually but if you're interested, just play it, you could complete it in a day easily.

>>715913808
thank you for your support

I'm glad we've collective decided to stop replying to the itagaki avatarfag, especially since he keeps making posts acting like he's on discord or something like we're supposed to respond to him like the people in these threads are his friends.

>>715916268
Even you don't think that's true

>>715919534
>>715919621
>>715919717
Fuck, I thought it just meant save states. Now I feel fucking stupid. I guess my point still stands for other real human-played walkthroughs. I get this feeling with everything too, not just games.

>>715919785
I guess that's a way to see it.

>>715920164
I mean, the best way to deal with avatar posters is to simply not reply to them. They're just desperate attention seekers, and by replying to them, you're giving them exactly what they want: attention. Honestly, even mentioning them at all is a bad thing, so you should just ignore them altogether.

>>715919451
Have you tried doing HRT? I've heard it's great for people with self-esteem issue who want to get good at videogames.

To stop that Itagakifag 1 2 3
Here's a fresh new way that's reply free
It's got hiroshis guarantee
(Guarantee void by mootie)
Just don't (you)! Just don't (you)!

>>715919623
Zenless zone zero of course. Get with the times instead of playing with the old, dated shit.

Unironically, are there any decent indie games out there made within the last 10 years? I've heard people mention assault spy but it just kind of looks like mindless shit to me.

>>715920843
Gachas are quite literally and unironically the devils work. There is nothing good that comes from gacha games. None.

>>715920164
>we
I don't agree with him on everything but he's one of the very few that actually appears to play videogames and attempt to discuss them. I do enjoy how much he pisses off the badly disguised Twitter schizos and NG2 cultists though.

>>715921004
>actually plays
LOL

>>715920717
Have you tried killing yourself yet? You should. Nobody would miss a freak like you.

>>715919898
>high skill ceiling
single player games and skill ceiling dont mix especially vanquish

Who to believe, the all lowercase twitter casual, or the fans of the genre that actually play?
Hmmmmmm

>>715895825
>>715896394
I was afraid I'd start to see shit like this when the god hand "modding community" started gaining steam in india and indonesia and brazil
Some coked up autist in India threw together an un-packer and re-packer for god hand's assets and I figured it would only be a matter of time before someone just ripped all of the animations out and tried to hack together a shitty version of god hand's combat system.

Problem is you can't remake something you don't understand.

>>715920843
Why can't they make something like that but offline singleplayer?

>>715920941
Spark The Electric Jester 3

>>715921283
>shitty version of god hand's combat system.
god hand is already a shitty game

>>715921343
because the entire point of gacha games is to suck your soul dry. Even if you're not paypigging, you are spending time on the game which inevitably leads to you discussing it and posting about it, reaching other people who get into the game, like a cancer, and those people continue to spread it, like a miasma.

Gachas are single handedly the worst thing to happen to video games. You might disagree but trust me, the repercussions will only get larger and larger

>>715921078
Wasn't he the one who beat UN without health upgrades? Unless he use trainers.

>>715921587
>You might disagree
Why would I? I hate them, just like gambling.

>>715921640
>it happened because he told us he did it
Anon you can't be this naive

>>715921682
>gambling
gambling is better than videogames
you can win money if you play poker

>>715921682
Some people would disagree because they're put under the spell of OOOH PRETTY ANIME GIRLS!!!! WOAH THIS IS SEXY SEX SEX SEX PORN PORN I AM AN ADDICT!!!!!!!!

>>715920843
This might be TOO casual desu and it has the bullshit of locking characters and better versions of your moves behind gacha shit

>>715916942
The samurai/ninja switch is terrible. I'll wait for Nioh 4.

>>715843494
well at least the new 2d ninja gaiden looks like it could be good

>>715921283
>Some coked up autist in India threw together an un-packer and re-packer for god hand's assets
Do you have links? Unironically I would love to have some of those for blocking out concepts because there are no good melee based anim packs anywhere.

>>715921750
Projecting

>>715920941
Magenta Horizon, though it is a 2D game, which might not be your thing. It's one of the few ones I've actually played, and it's really fun. It feels a lot like NG2 to me, which isn't something I can say for a lot of games. En Garde! is also pretty cool, but it's not really something you'd play all that much. Other than that, I know there's stuff like Spirit X Strike as well, but I haven't played them, so I have no idea if they're good or not.

>>715916942
The samurai/ninja switch is great

>>715921750
Do americans really

>>715921446
This, a shit game can be more shit

>>715921869
github.com/akitotheanimator/God-Hand-Tools
I think this is it

>>715921894
>Magenta Horizon
Never heard of it, it has a demo so i'll check it out but cringing that it says "spectacle fighter" in the description.
I played the demo for En Garde, wasn't particularly impressed and iirc it's super short. I forgot about Spirit X Strike, I gotta check that out eventually.

>>715921692
I would like to believe a 1% player is here.

>>715922063
Thanks. Pretty cool

>>715920462
It's the only way to see it. It's exactly the same way any of those really good players see it, because they've also seen every other really good player and never let that get in the way of playing the game until they got to that level themselves.

>>715921126
See, you already have suicide in your mind, it's gonna be perfect for you!