So what actually happened and will this effect my vydia from now on? Are hentai games kill?
>>716029024 (OP)Between payment processor kikery and Steam Support Agent Mary I don't think any video game will ever come out again
It's OVER
>>716029024 (OP)nah, retarded devs got culled, those who know remained
Steam isn't the end all be all.
GOG is about to become more viable.
>>716029024 (OP)>So what actually happenedVisa and Mastercard have been running a global campaign to ban all porn with people under 30. They can do this outside national and international laws by simply collaborating to refuse service, as they are an effective duopoly. Steam acknowledged it.
The reason for this behavior is probably a certain court decision in US where a judge decided that payment processors can be held responsible of somebody buys something illegal. They're covering their own ass by setting such strict limitations that they go way beyond what actual laws prohibit.
>>716029024 (OP)Why can't we like sue Mastercard and the other one for basically taking away our rights to buy what we want?
> Inb4: lol you think you have rights you fell for it again As much as I know these companies don't care for my rights by law they have to even if it kills them inside as someone who uses there product unless it says in there guidelines (You can not by any nsfw material with our service) we have the right to buy nearly anything with there service. So why can't we sue?
>>716029193Guess what payment processors GOG uses.
Guess what payment processors LITERALLY EVERYONE ON EARTH uses.
Steam is not the problem, Visa and Mastercard are.
>>716029024 (OP)why don't they just use direct bank transfers? don't have to deal with third party kikery
we told you niggers they would come for you next but you didnt believe us
>>716029024 (OP)Short term you're just gonna have to use more elaborate proxy services that disguise charges and makes it look more harmless to the credit card companies if the place you're buying your porn games from doesn't use paypal.
Long term eh they'll get bored. Porn always comes under fire every once in a while from credit card processors because people buy some shit, jack off, get regret and do a chargeback or their spouse or something sees they bought the entire catalog of trannies fucking dudes up the ass or something and have to pretend their card got stolen, so it's just a pain in the ass for them so they're always on and off about porn.
>>716029368>buy $5 game>pay $75 for the 3 day money transfer
So, do we have any solutions for this situation or alternatives to Paypal and Mastercard? Crypto isn't a viable solution since it's niche while also being used as a speculative asset. They're not just trying to go after porn games, but they're also looking to get rid of games simply due to the fact it features misogyny or abuse against women in itโIt doesn't matter if it's apart of the plot or not.
>>716029024 (OP)Yes it will. You should just stop sucking Steams dick, and use other stores. Its just that simple. Get American Express card
>>716029383I don't even know what DL is I've never heard of it until this other bullshit started.
>>716029265>Visa and Mastercard have been running a global campaign to ban all porn with people under 30Not my problem
>>716029556>and use other storesother stores ALSO use Visa and Mastercard, you twat
>>716029265>blaming the United Statesabsolutely deranged
>>716029024 (OP)none of this effects me because new games are shit and i wasn't buying them anyway
but i really have to hand it to jews for trying something this ballsy
>>716029383The leopards weren't supposed to eat their faces.
>>716029265>court decision in US where a judge decided that payment processors can be held responsible of somebody buys something illegal.mutts conspire with jews and ruin it for the whole world, yet again.
>>716029273because they arent the ones denying you service. Its their fault, but theres nothing forcing those services to deny you NSFW, technically. Steam could have an alternative payment process, they just dont, and dont want to lose visa/MC/paypal.
You cant sue them for expressing their opinions, basically.
>>716029098Dismantling Workshop of Bio-Girl snuff game and a recent loli game are still on steam so not too sure how things slip amongst the apparent continued censorship war.
>>716029617All the Asian porn game sites will ban that crap obviously. Like DMM
White women fucking sucks
THERE IS A BILL IN CONGRESS TO STOP PAYMENT PROCESSOR VISA AND MASTERCARD NIGGERY
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/401
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/987
CALL AND EMAIL YOUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN
STOP CORPORATIONS FROM RAPING YOUR LIFE
>(1) IN GENERAL.โTo provide fair access to financial services, a covered bank, including a subsidiary of a covered bank,
>shall, except as necessary to comply with another provision of lawโ
>(A) make each financial service the covered bank offers available to all persons in the geographic market served by the covered bank on proportionally equal terms;
>(B) not deny any person a financial service the covered bank offers unless the denial is justified by such quantified and documented failure of the person to meet quantitative,
>impartial risk-based standards established in advance by the covered bank;
>(C) not deny, in coordination with or at the request of others, any person a financial service the covered bank offers; and
>(D) when denying any person financial services the covered bank offers,
>provide written justification to the person explaining the basis for the denial,
>including any specific laws or regulations the covered bank believes are being violated by the person or customer.
>(b) Prohibition.โNo payment card network, including a subsidiary of a payment card network, may, directly or through any agent, processor, or licensed member of the network, by contract, requirement, condition, penalty, or otherwise, prohibit or inhibit the ability of any person who is in compliance with the law, including section 8 of this Act, to obtain access to services or products of the payment card network because of political or reputational risk considerations.
>>716029757this post screams 2010 /a/ (in a good way)
What happened is the Jews are getting uppity again and overstepping their boundaries, and they're gonna find out soon, again
porn games shouldn't be on steam anyway
>>716029806no they aren't
there's more technology and communication than ever and people are more fractured and hateful to their peers than EVER in the history of man
>>716029024 (OP)Jews want to control the pornographic industry so they're going after Japanese video games. First targeting lewd shit that no buys just pirates. Then they want all porn with attractive women gone UNLESS it's BLACKED which case have fun get cucked. They say underage porn is getting removed but femboy/tranny porn is everywhere and not touched at all.
So what is the purpose of all this? To demoralize white men and draft them into fighting endless wars until all enemies of Israel are wiped out. Take away their porn, take away their video games, and ESPECIALLY take away their women. What's left except to pick up a rifle and go shoot brown people in the middle east.
>>716029657And do you know why new games are shit? You're very close.
>payment processors being even more jewish than usual
>aha, the perfect use-case for crypto!
>every single popular cryptocurrency has been hijacked by rent-seeking private-equitoids and made into speculative investment assets
>you CAN'T use eth or btc as currency because one day they're worth 100k the next they're worth 80
one of you cyptomonkeys has to fucking fix this right now
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total game death
>>716029890>you're very close hehe you almost got it! you're almost aware a leopard ate your face!!!i don't care, kys kike, denounce the talmud you won't
>>716029625Facts don't care about your feelings.
All of this is because your retarded amerimutt judge said visa is responsible for what pornhub hosts
Absolutely absurd of course. That's like saying visa is responsible for the deaths caused by some serial killer because he bought his killing axe from Amazon with a visa card
>>716029757>representative is ted cruznot gonna bother
>>716029024 (OP)>will this effect my vydia from now onit already has
Why has modern man allowed the Jews to take over everything instead of kicking them out or killing them like literally every nation has done prior?
>>716029927Oh you're just a fucking schizo or a bot.
Incestbros... we have to rise up
>>716029872but this affects mexicans too
t.me
>>716029273Here's hoping the Japanese Diet will take action since their overreach in domestic Japanese services have hit shit that is way out of line like dating and marriage aps among other things.
>>716029989>acts like a knowitall faggot demoralizer>won't denounce itYeah that was a quick one
Amazing how we forgt that payment processors are the reason Hiro went full jew in the first place
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>>716029757This is a well reasoned and well intentioned bi-partisan effort to prevent banking niggatry, which is why I believe it will die quickly and without significant national attention.
>>716030003Incestfags are the ones CONSTANTLY UP AND SHOUTING even when no one is fuckinf asking.
Credit cards were duped by government that likes Cuties.
>>716029869That's cool little man. Still doesn't change the facts that the Jews are overstepping their boundaries by telling people what they can buy with their money, and they're gonna find out
>>716029757wont work, but its cute you think this will do literally anything
>99/100 bills literally never go anywhere>even if it did, the same grey haired conservatives in power pushing for censorship are the ones deciding on this billkek, theyd LOVE to be able to ban problematic games.
>>716030008Your job isn't to fight wars but to clean Goldsteins toilet and cut his grass.
>>716030082In the nicest way possible, I just told you, they aren't going to find out, no one gives a shit
>>716029383>JCB still works>Famimart payment still works, amongst othersThey can bitch and whine all they want but they can't kill the domestic market completely.
>>716029981Because the Jews are meant to rule over everything.
So far they mostly only took down games with incest and rape and other obvious porn titles in their names. As far as they know, those are the only ones that exist, and it's possible they might just back off once those are all gone. But the fact that Steam added a rule saying "our payment processors can say no" now makes the entire thing a lot more arbitrary than it was before.
>>716029908Its pretty farfatched to call any porn pedo, retard
>>716030148I deleted it manually, newfaggot.
>>716029587Youre a tourist so please fuck off aggressively?
>>716030278Now do that to yourself.
>>716029265>The reason for this behavior is probably a certain court decision in US where a judge decided that payment processors can be held responsible of somebody buys something illegal.it's actually because the Patriot Act empowered them via a vaguely worded morals in finance clause to shut down banking worldwide for anyone suspected of providing a financial platform for terrorism. And when I say shut down, I mean the target will no longer have access to any money or financial service other than cash onhand
unfortunately, because it is vaguely worded, some moral busybody has been weaponizing it for around a decade to systematically deplatform anything they find objectionable
that's why patron platforms such as Patreon, Kofi, etc. have strict rules on what is allowed, not because of their personal morals but because some bitch at Mastercard can literally cut off all their ability to do any kind of business forever. This is in fact exactly what happened to NewProject2
>>716029872>They say underage porn is getting removedevery time they say this, shota is untouched.
DLsite STILL has shota tags, and you can see realistic depictions of little boys being fucked right now.
its only girls that are banned, even if its not realistic or child-like, just anything petite.
best draw your lolis as tomboys and pass them off as shotas.
>>716029383How can i buy from dl if i have kikecard?
>>716030119They're already finding out.
GOVERMENT Is moving to combat them.
Fink is currently in hiding because he's scared
>>716030241Keep an eye on any released Japanese visual novels even those without 18+ content. There are plenty with non-blood-related (NBR) incest and if those games are hit it's fucking over.
>>716030417government is defending them when they push
do you know what aipac is you faggot, do you think any other country would have gotten the OK to do what is going on in gaza? no, retard, america is dedicated to worshipping jews
>>716030390boys can't get raped so it's ok
>>716030445Oh noooo. Not da poor widdle hamas terrorists. How could da gubberment allow this
>>716030484They have their sights on that one, too.
https://www.collectiveshout.org/onlyfans
>>716029193GOG is giving the cold shoulder to H-game publishers.
>>716030616>israel good because it's killing people i don't likeretard
>>716030480never mentioned rape, though?
even so thats wrong, boys and girls that are underage are legally considered raped, even if THEY ask for sex.
>>716030390I can get the same lolishit I bought on DLsite years ago, the only difference is the tags are jumbled and the payment options have changed a lot.
Shout out to Mizu/Gimmix for ๅนผใชๅฐป, love that shit.
>>716029193>gog shill is a retardAs usual
>>716029024 (OP)Hags in their 40's and kikes joining forces to stop you from buying adult games with your hard earned money, with the support of normalfag censorship apologists. All of which have their own reasons for wanting them gone and none of which involves protecting children or whatever disingenuous crap they're spewing.
>>716029273Lawsuits cost money, especially against corporations as large as VISA/Mastercard who can draw it out to bleed you dry, and ESPECIALLY when you're trying to sue someone who can just cut you out of the financial system. Besides, there's already an ongoing antitrust suit against VISA headed by the DOJ.
>>716029024 (OP)>xbox 360 points making a comebackyou love to see it
>>716030850no one said this.
Youre shadowboxing ghosts, anon.
>>716030908>your hard earned moneyAll money in the world belongs to the Jews, we just let you goyim hold on to it until we need it. You are our piggy banks.
>>716030368> large anime tits is terrorismWhat a time to be alive.
>>716030368>Patriot Actlmao it's Obama's fault
I knew it
>look at one of the publishers that got hit
>these are the games that didn't get removed
What did they mean by this?
https://steamdb.info/publisher/EroticGamesClub/
>>716030908>Hags in their 40's and kikes joining forces to stop you from buying adult games with your hard earned moneyneed to stop spreading this narrative
they also tried to kill detroid become human before
this will not stop at "adult games"
majority of it was because VISA allegedly processed ad pennies off of some illegal 3DPD video, and a retarded judge deemed them non-dismissible and then liable
the case is still ongoing, but now recently with a "whistleblower" allegedly accusing VISA & MC of directly processing illegal 3DPD recordings on top of inaction, it's plausible that they're now building up a paper trail of pure 2D to attempt to pass it off as evidence of cracking down on "illegal" content
but it's still plausible that VISA and maybe MC were intentionally policing fictional content from powers granted by either-or Operation Choke Point and FOSTA-SESTA
>>716030962he obviously hates muslims which i dont care free speech, but to side with kikes (the demons of humanity) because they're killing muslims? lame shit!
>>716029949tell him you're "REALLY" worried about payment processors blocking firearm purchases
>>716031381hey man, politicians lie to you all the time just lie back. it'll at least increase you chances.
>>716031507>let's all be jewish liars that will give us a healthy systemkek
>>716030850You're inventing things in your head to get mad at again, retard.
And no matter how hard you kvetch, you're not gonna make me care about terrorists getting bombed
>>716031567you think anyone every got what they wanted with being honest? ESPECIALLY in the political world? puh-lease.
>>716031642>jewish terrorism is good>palestinian terrorism is badjust say they're both bad you stupid fucking amerigolem
Careful,schlomo shekelstein. When you start fucking with people's money, you best be watching your back
>>716031739Bombing terrorists doesn't make you a terrorist. Kvetch harder.
>>716029193Gog is fucking retarded and they refuse to expand their catalogue.
>6031801
>talking down on jews while trying to define why palestinians deserve death
this is some weird fucking bait
>>716031021The patriot act was a George W Bush thing though
>>716031079>this will not stop at "adult games"Neither do they want to stop at "games", if they could, we'd all be eating ze bugs right now
>>716029024 (OP)Just make your own payment and banking system, bro.
>>716030390>DLsite STILL has shota tags, and you can see realistic depictions of little boys being fucked right now.quick question anon, what methods are allowed to purchase things on DLsite?
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dude idk whats even going on in this story
>>716032854For anything hit by the censorship, you not only need a Japan-region VPN, but you also need to buy DLSite points from a third-party vendor.
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>>716030416normally, you just can't purchase (or even access for that matter) a variety of games that may or may not be "problematic" (which is decided by completely arbitrary means)
>>716030416Buy points from a partner website (they've got links in their FAQ iirc). You're still gonna need a Japanese VPN if you want certain tags to show up at all (loli and a few others) but you can access the works from any country once the purchase is done.
>>716030416There's a method they use where you buy points through payment directly from DL.
It's pretty good and has less hassle than crypto. I wonder if steam is able to go this route or if it's too big and an easy target.
>>716032464obama said he was going to repeal it to be fair, but fuck GWB too for proposing what's probably the most jewish law ever
>>716032869lame aussie white women started a pro-censorship group in the 2000s. They somehow have amassed enough power to make CC companies kneel for fear of media backlash.
>>716029193You can pay cash on Steam though.
>>716029024 (OP)It's speculative on my part but I'm pretty sure big players like steam will start created their own payment system to avoid this in the future, a bit like Russia did against Western sanctions after their first invasion of Crimea (if I recall correctly).
Valve has the fund and means to do that or so it seems.
What about the other marketplace btw, isn't itch.io filled with those types of content?
>>716029757itll probably fail cuz Dems will slap "but gay sex is mandatory in schools" into the bill, then everyone will vote against it and itll fail.
>>716033568Valve is the only one I can think of that could get away with their own payment service just because they're that big.
However smaller stores like GoG and Itch.io would still be attacked and censored.
>>716030390some lolige is untouched as well, while other games that have no such content get removed
pic related is only accessible with a japanese proxy, even though it clearly doesn't depict a loli, on the other hand RJ01019612 and half of the authors other games are still up
>>716033568Valve could have brought the crypto payment system back online and also tell people to just get Steam card codes from Amazon or a convenience store.
I think Gabe no longer cares about protecting Steam's integrity.
>>716029024 (OP)ask yourself why they are targeting japanese games and not onlyfans whores.
>>716033734baby-making sex with your hot cousin is bad or something
>>716030416like other anon has said, easiest way is their point system. Also vpn to japan so you don't get region locked from the good tags
>>716030484because it upset a large group of women when they tried the first time.
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>>716033976which is weird, first cousin marriage is allowed in judaism (pic is second cousin to closer, Israel is at 30-39%)
>>716031083unfortunately most people wont notice or wont care, and now they are just gonna be pressured from both sides without resolving the fundamental issue of these kinds of lawsuits (where there is even a remote possibility of them being liable) even being possible in the first place
i think they really should speak up about the kind of pressure they are under as well
>>716029024 (OP)Anyone here actually read the new rules? Because it not just porn. It's any games that these companies don't approve of due to sexual content, like revealing clothes, violence against women (so any games with female enemies) and/or anything the far right Christians groups don't like.
The problem is that if this is allowed, it will set precedent on how these company can dictate moral judgement on any games they don't like. Heck they went after Detroit: Become Human, the most miletoast game ever because it has "violence against female robot" because they afraid that children might copy the action
>voted for this
>Surprised that it goes into effect
Sasuga Americans.
>>716030416Buy points on Forbooks, they link to it among payment methods
Also use a VPN to access blocked content
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>>716035075Isn't the group from Australia?
>>716029540Convince Japan and Korea to use unionpay and cite how the decision decided because of mastercard and visa. You can bet US will do something about it immediately to not lose foothold on asia.
Now the problem is you can't even have normal bikini in Chinese games so we probably just traded one hell for another.
>>716029024 (OP)Don't need to stop killing games if nobody can buy them!
A couple of years ago Visa and Mastercard rolled into SEA and made a bunch of unfair demands and got kicked out only to crawl back with better deal when Paypal spread throught the region
>>716029024 (OP)>So what actually happened and will this effect my vydia from now on?There's an official congress bill in motion right now which tries to combat this exact thing.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/987/text
Well, not THIS exact thing, not pornographic video games but the idea that payment processors and banks can't refuse their services for any non-illegal activities, which would (currently) include but isn't limited to erotic games on steam. This would mean that mayment processors can't dictate what you buy, provided that you're not trying to buy hard drugs online or such.
I'm a bit hopeful that maybe the people of the States can do something good for a change. I have an inkling of faith.
>Are hentai games kill?Lmao, no. Steam isn't even the biggest place where hentai games can be downloaded (free or bought). While I despise the notion that erotic games may not be on steam, it will not ultimately affect the availability of erotic games. Go on /h/ and you'll find the better (and cheaper) alternative(s) in minutes.
>>716033734>ChildhoodNo-no word detected
>>716035792Why hentai games probably won't be affect that much, I am not so sure about the other games. The problem is that rule is extremely vague. Sexual content can mean a lot of thing, simply talking about sex can be count, having female enemies can be count,...
>>716035946Basically, you can expect most Japanese otaku fanservice games like Neptunia, Senran Kagura and Gal*Gun to be affected as well. Arguably they already are, if we speculate that the restrictions that are being pushed by Steam/GOG/Nintendo are influenced by demands from payment processors.
>>716029024 (OP)You can't pay for your degenerate games so you have to pirate them.
>>716035946>Why hentai gamesI assume you wanted to write "While" here?
>if it's a typoYeah, I kinda agree. It's too vague and if we're being pessimistic about it for a spell, certain groups could continue to kill non-sexual games simply because it's a power trip.
>if you wanted to write "Why" as you didHentai games would be affected to a degree because calling Steam ridiculously popular would be the understatement of the year, but I'm unsure if a lot of people are willing to use Steam for erotic content in the first place. I'd argue that pulling erotic games from steam isn't that big of a deal but I admit I have no data to back up this idea. In any case I generally discourage people from using steam for erotic content, not because it has to do with steam in any sense but because the amount of games on it compared to a certain forum is laughably small, not to mention that many games not fit for steam can be found there much easier.
As for how accurate this "crusade" is, it's hilarious. Picrel is on Steam for crying out loud. If a single human would glance at this game from the moderators of Steam, it would get removed in a nanosecond.
>>716036646Yeah, it was suppose to be "while"
>>716029024 (OP)Yes they will start by banning the trash porn games and slowly creep their way unto banning main stream games. The retards defending the kike CC companies are goylems serving their long nosed masters. Most of these retards are fans of stellar blade thinking the ban only affects shitty porn games. Then they'll start crying when main stream games are self censoring and no more fan service and beautiful women in video games. Enjoy your Fable/ forspoken/ last of us 2 looking women in video games in the future goylems.
>>716036158>compared to Japan's shrinking marketWait, am I out of some sort of loop?
Their hentai market is shrinking? Why? How?
>>716036850Competition, changing demographic, tighter regulation,...
>>716029024 (OP)If it gets rid of fag and tranny shit then I am fine with it
>>716029265Don't we want porn banned anyway for degeneracy and being run by jews?
>>716029757They'll vote however Trump tells them
>>716034967>It's any games that these companies don't approve ofThis will get very funny very quickly with state backed payment systems entering the spotlight, EU will be able to police entirety of steam release schedule for example.
>>716037070Who's we? Retarded christcuck larpers?
>>716029024 (OP)>>716029193I'll count on pirating it directly and not from intermediary normie platforms as God intended.
>>716029024 (OP)tell me how the fuck this is legal what they are doing and there isnt a class action lawsuit against them???
>>716038071Because they have money and you don't, but feel free to try and sue them, we will be here to laugh at you.
>>716036850Economic recession + Jap zoomers being addicted to their phones and paying little attention to anything that isn't gacha or VTubers (things they can easily access from their phones).
>>716038153so you can murder someone openly have it filmed and because you have money get away with it? no stop talking shit then
>>716038071There is surprisingly little legislation to protect free speech at the corporate/private level. Even when a literal monopoly is involved. It's how Steam has been getting away with screwing over Japanese games for arbitrary reasons for over half a decade now.
>>716038257Blud has been out of the loop on Einstein Isle
(Is it $0.05 a post or are you an ACE employee getting paid a whopping $0.10?)
>>716038393Because free speech isn't about you spamming NIGGER in chat for everyone to see, it is about not getting prosecuted for speaking against government.
This is what you all signed up for playing footsies with the right to defeat DEI and trannies and make libs cry.That tradeoff was allow Christian fundies more power to influence things. After successfully putting DEI and trannies on the backfoot, and making Democrats a dead party, they have now started to move in on areas you all actually care about and enjoy, which is what always happens with people like these.
You all were warned, but making lefties cry and dunking on trannies was more important. Great job. Enjoy the bed you all made for yourselves. It's too late to stop this. It will only get worse in the future. Did you all really think these people were only going fixate on DEI, trannies, and leftists forever?
>>716038615>free speech isn't about free expression, it's about the gubmint not making laws but corporations can!I would tell you to kill yourself but life probably is enough punishment for your imbecility.
>>716038501not the same thing as i said this is in the open you dont know who is on the epstein list, for this you know exactly who it is and the illegal move they have pulled with their payment processing
>>716038615>it's only censorship when the government does itHow is anyone still falling for this? Corporate censorship is real, and is far more common than government censorship now, in large part because there's little legal protection against it.
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>>716038853This post was too brown/ESL for me to read. Could you ask your manager to check your English before your next post, please?
>>716029265>The reason for this behavior is probably a certain court decision in US where a judge decided that payment processors can be held responsible of somebody buys something illegalThey've been doing this shit on the low for longer than that ruling.
>>716038904Well yeah, i never argued that corporations have their own censorship, just that free speech as constitutional concept never meant to be applied to private entities. It is also why you can throw out any annoying faggot from your property. Corpos has a lot more property than you do but also the very same right of policing what can and can't be done on it.
Seeing how much paid astroturfing takes place in these threads was extremely eye opening to how jeeted 4chan is these days. Seriously. Just look at all the posts that make weird, basic, out of place language mistakes. You can just tell they don't type like anyone who's been browsing even for a couple of weeks to a month. Actually kind of sanity restoring knowing none of these horrible opinions are coming from living, breathing human beings with functional pineal glands
>>716039310But when a corpo gets an effective monopoly over a form of distribution, like VISA/Mastercard with online transactions, or Valve/Steam with PC game distribution, it becomes a much bigger problem.
>>716039034nice retort retard
>>716039310This is because the founding fathers never foresaw corporations getting this much power and control.
Free speech should be forced on private entities if a certain percentage of the population used the service. So social medias and payment processors. If you want to censor people, you cant also have a monopoly and must break up the company so people have a choice.
Simple as.
>>716039595That is a different kind of problem and often is entirely self inflicted. People want convenience, nobody wants to deal with 20 different launcher and 10 subscriptions to streaming services or checking which one of their 5 online wallets and credit cards are supported in this particular place.
>>716039612Geez, it took you 15 minutes to manage that comeback? Must suck having to put all my messages into chatGPT to translate them into your bug-language and then translate it back into English when your company can only afford the free-tiers, huh? Hope you roast alive in your non air conditioned shill farm, shitskin. All for a fucking Visa astroturfing campaign, too. You know immigration visas aren't related to the payment processor Visa, right? Or are you that low IQ that you actually mixed them up?
>>716039952Dont care, end result is corporations has too much monopolized power and it has to be taken away. Dont give a fuck about the psychological reason they got the power
>>716037070Hentai is not run by jews, that's why they're trying to destroy it.
>>716039721>>716039952>>716040107Reminder that even ancient Athens knew this shit was a problem, that's why ostracism was an institution.
>>716029024 (OP)On the bright side now faggots wouldnt be able to tell you just go watch porn and half-naked female characters should be much more common in normal games
>>716040107You will be the first one to bitch and whine if you steam library will be scattered to 50 different launchers with each publisher having their own.
>>716029024 (OP)An edgy shovelware WEG inadvertently brought about the complete total collapse of the hypno/incest industry on Steam.
Retards need to understand this isn't even about porn. If you let them get away with this shit they'll be coming after people for not liking their politics or religions next.
>>716032854if you want to buy shotacon child porn, then its business as usual
if you want to buy mesugaki drained my balls, then you need a vpn, an jp account, some 3rd party point seller... a lot of fucking hoops.
Its kind of weird how they only pretend to care but gay pedophiles are given a pass.
>>716033734>RJ01019612>somehow havent heard of this onebased thanks anon. I love little girl s(t)imulation games.
>>716038037Won't be nothing to pirate you dense cunt.
>>716041609>mesugaki drained my ballsThis deserves to be its own dedicated subgenre. Sure msgk + lolidom works but come on.
Pester online stores to accept stable coins and this problem will go away.
>bans nsfw on steam
i'm not really sure if this is a good or bad thing.
>>716029193and how exactly is gog going to ignore the ToS of the payment services they use?
fucking idiot
>>716041809>>716041719>click on loli tag on dlsite>GYATTT DAYM A SEXO CUNNY>checks tags looking good>check pictures and.... its dog fucking themEvery fucking time, im torn on two sides on one hand its disgusting and i got baited to many times so you faggots deserve the censor and on other hand they ban loli all together. Its tiresome man, loli on its own is a pure tag but some degenerates have to push shit like zoophilia everytime, same shit on aftbooru.
I think this lawsuit what started all of this, the judge that ruled in favor for this should be bared
>Ms Fleites alleges that Visa, by processing revenue from ads, conspired with Pornhub's parent firm MindGeek to make money from videos of her abuse.
>https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-62372964
>>716039540Yeah this is actually infuriating. Also there are like 6-7 threads at all times with some rat faced fuck for SKG but mass crackdowns on discussing Steam game bans
>>716042062You know what, I was going to write a whole TLDR-essay on how mentally fucked you are, but I'm just going to call you retarded.
You're retarded.
>>716042145Say whatever you want but thats just my experience with dlsite and more than 50% loli games i check end up like i mentioned. And its gross.
>>716029605It will be because they are not stopping there.
>>716042062>>716042213M8 you need to fucking learn which artists cater to which fetishes and work from that, use your sodding brain.
>>716029265>to ban all porn with people under 30Incorrect. They have been waging war to ban all porn they themselves aren't supporting. That means your favorite straight VN featuring white/asian couples in loving relationships is bad. But cuckshit and blackedshit? Please, that is most welcome.
>>716041284They already did that during Trump's first term, but we memory holed it during COVID.
>>716041765tbf there are many things they need to get it together.
it's just, I see a game that could be gotten directly from jp be brought to steam for no reason at all (now it needs a patch and launchers) and wonder whats the point. It's just there so the plebs can "see" the game. So while they can make it in Japan, and someone can get it, thats enough.
>>716039540I think theyโre spics not jeets
>>716042617>That means your favorite straight VN featuring white/asian couples in loving relationships is badIt is bad, fucking vanilla fags ruining everything for everyone once again. Either be a proper degenerate or fuck off..
>>716036850>Their hentai market is shrinking?Probably, but that article isn't about that. What is declining is the market for VNs, mostly due to their costs and consumer preferences shifting towards gachas which are also a lot more profitable to operate. This has been happening since the 10s.
>>716039310Free speech is a concept that exists separately from the first amendment. Itโs a right granted by god (figuratively) and the first amendment stops the US government from taking it away. Corporations donโt have to follow the constitution but they do have to follow the law, congress doesnโt (inherently) have an obligation to protect freedom of speech from corporations but they do have the power to.
>>716043598Why would COngress pass laws that take away their ability to circumvent the Constitution and exert societal pressure through back doors like corporate policy?
>>716043598>Itโs a right granted by god (figuratively)There isn't a single religion, outside of maybe satanism, that has that coded in their sacred text.
And if you are going to be anal about semantics, free speech as overreaching concept isn't even century old, it really only become a thing when it was weaponized as propaganda point after ww2.
>>716029024 (OP)The new Jap party winner will make the things more worse
https://nichegamer.com/japanese-far-right-party-censor-anime-industry/
>>716040006you talk too much
like a child who never learned not to speak when adults are talking
>muh slippery slope!
>They'll come for you next!
When? Seems like every time these argument and fallacies are brought up it's always when very obvious and universally agreed on degen shit gets taken down.
>dude! No sexy girls in games! look at what happened to western media!
Western media has been trash for a long ass time. Sexy women where always just a mask to cover the fact that what they're producing was shit because perverts would buy it and claim it's good purely on if they get a boner or not. Just look at gatcha games, absolute dog shit but people still defend it and play them because of porn. If anything getting rid of sexy girls in games is a good thing because now people actually judge the games based off if they are actually good.
Also the argument that "just because I jerk off to cartoons about pedophilia doesn't make me a pedophile! Just like how games or movies about violence doesn't make me a killer!" doesn't hold up either because you never see serial killers or other highly violent people becoming that way because of their over consumption of violent media, but sex addicts and pedos always end up being people who over consume porn and sex.
Well Stellar Blade still exists despite how much Sony tried to kill it. I think I'm good.
>>716029024 (OP)>Are hentai games kill?No. At this rate, all games with "sexual content" will be killed.
That includes classics like TES Daggerfall, Duke Nukem 3D, etc.
>>716044393>muh bad faith argumentYou're so fucking predictable.
>>716044393>When?I've been watching it play out for nearly a decade now with Japanese games and anime. They have been stamping down on anything Japanese with even mild erotic elements with the justifications changing constantly. It will not and has not stopped at porn. Or do you think Neptunia, Senran Kagura, Gal*Gun and Dungeon Travelers should all be banned too?
>Western media has been trash for a long ass time.And the fact that it constantly assaults your eyes with hideous crimes against femininity and the female form is one of the chief reasons. I don't care how good the game is if I have to look at Debora Wilson the whole time I'm playing it.
>Also the argument that "just because I jerk off to cartoons about pedophilia doesn't make me a pedophile! Just like how games or movies about violence doesn't make me a killer!" doesn't hold up eitherYou now sound like a Xitter nigger who goes "diddy blud epstein" when he sees any anime fanservice scene. Do you think every single person who's watched non-shonen anime is a child rapist waiting to happen or something? Every time I see this rhetoric, it's from people who think 90% of anime is CP and argues like pic related. No you fucking retard, anime girl fanservice, whether small or large, is not fucking turning people into sex criminals.
>>716029193the same GOG owned by a company parroting globohomo nonsense? it's only a matter of time
>>716029024 (OP)Even gooner bots are kill soon unless we start running a local server instead for gooner shit lmao.
>>716045060>If you hate it that means you actually love it!guess you must love censorship too since you seem to hate it so much.
>>716046303Lol just saying.
>>716046303Maybe we should just kill all kids at this point, like holy shit
>>716046628Government is at fault, kill all politicians instead, they are defending each other and criminal scum in their ranks anyway while taking away our freedoms, those are the real big problem in the world.
>>716046410>the lady doth protest too muchI'd love to see how many people have been caught consuming lolicon and also found guily of CSA related crime, vs the number of people who talk shit about loli and anime in general who got caught instead. Unfortunately all we have is a sample of the latter, it's quite impressive.
https://archive.md/U23XK
>>716046838The thing is:
> Fictional no crime committed.Fine, go ahead but you are going to be looked at as a disgusting piece of shit anyways and under scrutiny.
> Real life crimes committed.Yeah, fuck you at that point.
>>716029273Because thats communism according to a huge part of the government. You want more regulation on this companies you know which party you have to vote for, democrats.
>porn is more accessible than ever, a shitload of open source models can do it on pc with no real actors and harms associated with it involved
At this point this entire predatory industry can burn for all i care
>>716046838>twitter screen shots.
>UK is about to get cut off from tons of websites because most of them simply cant afford to obey their garbage rules
This will be the next thing right?
There will be riots and everything?
The amount of stuff this affects is insane
>>716047318Not an argument.
>>716047601>bread more expensive than ever>can no longer access circusesIt will be funny if this is the thing that sparks the revolution.
>>716047601Are we migrating here? Too bad jannies, we talked about the UK situation for 200 replies before you deleted the thread. We VILL discuss topics of importance!
>>716029024 (OP)>So what actually happenedfake grassroots sjw group launched fake news campaign and pressured card companies and payment processors into making steam drop hundreds of games. they won't stop until all you can play is less entertaining than the teletubbies
>will this effect my vydia from now on?yes it will because they want to take down even stuff as inoffensive as street fighter and tomb raider
>>716029193it's not just steam. they also targeted itch.io for example
>>716038071there's multiple anti-trust cases open against them from multiple countries right now.
despite what /v/ says this isn't morally motivated, they're doing this for liability reasons.
>>716047791>first the UK is cut off of the EU because muh immigrants>immigrants stay lol too bad>now UK is cut off of the internetThe one thing that kept the population pacified is about to be taken away, it might actually
I think the most hilarious bit is that the idea of the whole "show id for access" is rendered moot since so many companies just pull out altogether instead and I'm guessing they didnt anticipate that
The bill will be changed at the very least, give it a week
>>716034942don't excuse their scummy behavior
shitting on on the innocent to "prove" that you're "taking action" is absolutely despicable. just like banks that debank random customers to inflate their AML figures to look like they're "stopping those dirty terrists!"
>>716048293it would be fucking hilarious if this is what makes englisher politiburo realise they don't have the market relevance to push whatever bullshit they feel like and have everyone kowtow
>>716046838please remind me how many anti-anime and anti-loli campaigners are actually pedos
>>716047601UK is too cucked to do anything. Both parties are grifters conspiring against the citizens.
>>716047601The majority of the population are normalfag cattle who only use Facebook and Instagram, even if people protested, all of the parties support the law and would ignore the backlash. It's over
>>716047601I'm surprised UK didn't ban themselves years ago
>>716048540>DrPizzaThe joke writes itself
>>716029024 (OP)we need crypto paying options everywhere ASAP. this is totally against the forces of free market and could usually be encountered in totalitarian shitholes like north korea. remember how you fags used to make jokes about chink social credit system and their 1984 type surveillance, well this is the same shit. can we fucking sue these companies like Sweeney did apple?
every day I wake up glad I'm not anglo.
can you believe I had a britaboo phase when I was like 12? must have been those evil Harry Potter books.
>>716047601the only people rioting are the low-IQ essex / norf fc people who will be promptly swept up and forgotten about. the only discourse in the so-called "opposition" reform et al is just constant grooming gangs and migrant boats with zero attention paid to free speech issues like this one
the rest of the UK are turbo normies who's internet experience consists of apple music, youtube, spotify, facebook, instagram, whatsapp, twitter and social media, where they all use their real names so the law would only affect those making stupid unnecessary comments during football games or some shit.
few people here actually like video games, anime and other 4chan core culture. nobody is going to riot other than the underclass who would bully people for liking said things anyway.
the only option for anons in the UK is to get the fuck out ASAP
>>716048293>immigrants stay lol too badActually a lot of the European immigrants did leave, so they brought in Africans, Indians & Pakis to replace them. Apparently when the Brits complained about the immigration in the EU, their problem was with the Europeans since they wanted more Africans and """Asians""" instead.
>>716048963The point was that the people who voted to leave because of the immigrant situation got dunked on regardless
They literally just lost and now they will lose again
>>716048886>the only option for anons in the UK is to get the fuck out ASAPAnyone with common sense saw this coming since the loliban in 2009. The weather in nipland kind of fucking sucks but I'm still not going back any time soon.
I hope it blows up enough to actually be addressed and not quietly swept beneath the rug.
>>716048886I wonder how many companies and sites will just opt to pull out instead of complying, making that id check useless
The demands are so ridiculous that aside from the titans like youtube and facebook and the like, it would be more beneficial to just drop the UK
>>716029772it would get deleted within minutes on 2025 /a/
>>716049141it'll be forgotten about in a week or two
>>716029265>a judge decided that payment processors can be held responsible of somebody buys something illegalThis is just stupid.
Might as well blame car manufacturers because someone got drunk and ran people over.
If something illegal is going on, sic the feds on them. A payment processor has no business caring about what their customers are doing. If anything, the feds should WANT these processors to continue handling it because they can be forced to hand over information as part of an investigation, instead of forcing illegal dealings to be done in far less tracable ways.
Good luck proving that a fistfull of cash was exchanged under an interstate bridge for illicit substances instead of just pulling up detailed records after issuing a warrant, dumbass
>>716029949Call him just to insult the spineless worm that he is.
And for fucks sake elect someone that isn't a national embarrassment.
>>716029024 (OP)In case StopKillingGames somehow works, this is the alternative, keeping a game "alive" but unavailable for purchace because "insert generic excuse"
>>716046303>parents are too stupid to control or limit what their kid sees on the internet>government, do it for us!Nanny state
>>716050591apparently it was some judge with an agenda
the case is still ongoing, and that particular judge is apparently no longer active now, but dunno how that all works with appeals or whatever for the next guy
>>716029024 (OP)What is happening, slowly but surely, is the transition from the idea of a free society where people do business without interference, to a totally controlled society where people do business under total control. Of course, we won't reach the extreme point, but if things continue to evolve slowly, you will get very close to the extreme, to the point where people will find it completely normal that something they are buying should have the Mastercard seal of approval.
They will find it normal that all their transactions are recorded somewhere. They will find it normal that paper money has disappeared. They will find it normal that the government has access to a database that determines their good goy score, because all of this is for the sake of equality and democracy.
>>716051437What is happening is everything returning to how things were before world wars.
>>716048540>I like to jerk off to cartoon pictures of children but I'm not a pedo, actually if you call me a pedo that makes you a pedo because warning signs and pattern recognition are actually pedo traits.This argument never works, that man was a pedo who was virtue signalling to throw off a trail, the same as every gay politician and priest who shit talks homosexuality while sucking dicks in private. Any adult male who avidly consumes loli fiction needs to be barred from accessing children and should be treated as the threat they are.
>>716029193Sorry but which game downloading service uses only crypto and not credit cards to let you buy games? None of them because its not yet a viable business because even educated people who own crypto barely use it for stuff.
>>716051437>A free society is one where I compel everyone to assist me in acquiring smutFuck off
>>716051628You're not saving any children, you're not defending morality from villains, you're not being anything but an annoying internet hall monitor. Anime otaku subculture has existed for decades and is not guilty of anything you're accusing it of. You're just a stooge who bought into a fake moral panic about something you don't understand so your overlords could justify kneecapping an entire country's media for daring to encroach on their turf. Go back to Xitter.
>>716051628>I like to kill people in video games but, hehe...
>>716052229Kneecapping other countries is par to the course in global politics, i am glad we are back in good old times while globalization is slowly evaporates as an idea outside of EUSSR.
>>716029024 (OP)>"NOOOOOOO NOT MUH HECKIN' PORN GAMES!!!!!!">"THIS IS A VIOLATION OF FREEZE PEACH!!!1"VISA and Mastercard holocausting coomers. I didn't know a company could be this based.
Finally someone is forcing Valve to clean up all the slop and degeneracy from Steam.
>>716052229No, I'm familiar with otaku culture and know there's a difference between cute or moeshit and people who talk about loli. Loli always comes with sexual connotations, the origin of that term is a book about a guy who kidnaps a kid to rape them. People in the west know this, the crying emoji is your flag and it doesn't come from a guy crying over how cute something was, he was crying over how erotic he found it.
What you and people like you keep trying to do is normalise pedo shit by tying it to moeshit and general anime culture. Your entire argument is retarded because it's the equivalent of saying a guy who exclusively jerks off to yaoi isn't gay because gay cartoon boys having sex is fictional. What you jerk off to is always directly related to your actual sexual preferences.
>>716051437this will only accelerate crypto adoption. thank god orange ape is crypto aligned.
>>716052561>losing loyal customers>goodyou commies are pathetic, you just want to see the world burn
>>716052460>I like to jerk off to gay cartoon boys having sex but I'm totally not gay
>>716052775Coomer scum and not loyal customers and they do not make up a significant portion of Steams user base.
They are degenerate scum that need to be forced to leave.
If I was dictator of America I would have them all arrested and jailed for life.
NOBODY I HAVE EVER MET USES A MASTERCARD
WHY DO THEY HAVE SO MUCH POWER
>>716052189Freedom includes doing things you consider wrong, you faggot.
I know you don't want real freedom, because deep down you know you're just a parasite and that in a truly free society, you would be excluded from the "tribe". In fact, this is the primal fear of everyone who supports all this modern garbage. Deep down, you know you have no chance without protection from some entity that can be rigged by parasites like you. Parasites defend each other, at least as long as the body they parasitize still has food for them.
>>716051605In fact, some intellectuals were shocked by the great wars and decided that society should be reformed according to their wisdom. One of the intellectual landmarks of this transition is the book published shortly before the end of World War II by Karl Popper, called "The Open Society and Its Enemies".
The classic American ideal, where government is minimal and things are held together by a homogeneous people bound by patriotism is not compatible with this new world envisioned by intellectuals.
>>716033495do i just have to mail gabe newell like twenty bucks in advance to buy my sexgames now
>>716052924>they do not make up a significant portion of Steams user basshow me the data or fuck off
>>716029024 (OP)It started with guns back in 2022, now they come for games. Yeah, it will only get worse. For SURE, it will only get worse. I literally just told you why. It's not MY fault you're such a faggot you didn't notice Guns were banned by certain banks This happened to GUNS in 2022, because those are dangerous. Now it's video games' turn to get banned, because those are dangerous now too... for some reason.
>>716050591>A payment processor has no business caring about what their customers are doinglaw enforcement wants corpos to do their job for them. it's why we have internet filters in place (of course this is all done ultimately at the behest of hollyjew, the music kikes, and other arms of the copyright mafia)
>>716053030>Freedom includes doing things you consider wrong, you faggot.Compelling people to do things against their wishes is the opposite of freedom, you fucking moron.
>>716052973Maybe MC is bigger on some regions, it is here in South America while Visa just now is getting big so maybe the same for Asia and or Europe.
>>716029193>GOG is about to become more viable.GoG will Never be viable because GoG is a store that sells video games and publishers decide what they sell on that video game store. GoG being more popular won't change that. It will only change when sales of DRM games drops by 80% or more. In other words, never.
>>716051628>he thinks killing people in video games means you're a murderer>he thinks stealing in a video game means you're a pickpocket or a robber>he thinks blowing up a building in a video game means you're a terroristyou're fucking insane. get yourself to the closest mental hospital
>>716052973someone just keeps posting the MC logo when arguably it's majority been VISA this whole time
>>716053093Go away with your fallacies, you parasite. As I said before, your only concern is that the host doesn't wake up and realize that you're eating his flesh.
If you weren't a parasite, you wouldn't be here creating scarecrow fallacies to defend a mega corporation's power to censor video games you don't approve of, you filthy faggot.
>>716053198You're completely retarded. You're a pedo whether you've commited the crime or not, it's a sexual preference. You don't need to suck a dick before people detect or label you as gay. That desire you have is dangerous because it's a mental dysfunction that endagers every child in your vicinity. The mental gymnastics you people jump through is insane.
>>716053198All of that is all right in videogames because he doesn't need to hide he does that with real ones.
>>716053061Less than 2%
https://medium.com/@ThatOneAJ/the-dirty-secret-to-a-more-successful-indie-game-b7243dab8356
I hadn't even read this before hand, but I'm so smart I inherently knew this was true. I don't need sources to know things. But for a brainlet that does need sources, there you go.
>>716053419Fuck off, commie fuck, with your "Forced to be free" bullshit.
What stopping you from boycotting them and use alternatives?
>>716051628I don't even know why you retards make posts like this, you won't convince anyone and you all get caught in the end anyway because you have no self-control.
If someone is asking a lot of questions about where what is or how to find whatever, you're talking to a plant or a bug, stop giving them answers and gatekeep like you're supposed to.
How does it work exactly
Does it refuse payment if you have porn games in your cart
Can't you just charge up your steam wallet and then buy the porn game
>>716053438>doesn't refute any arguments>continues to conflate fiction with real lifeyour brain must be mush from doomscrolling all day on faceberg and cucktok
>>716052638The people you keep company with would have the majority of anime banned over the rhetoric you're peddling, just so you know. I don't believe for a second you would be satisfied just banning hentai. You treat the entirety of moe otaku culture like it's some underground trafficking ring that you've stumbled upon, because some retarded journalist wrote a hit piece or something. And you treat everyone who enjoys it like they're some criminal waiting to be unleashed. You're nothing but a tool! Go fuck yourself! I am sick of being branded as something I'm not by you types over playing games like Neptunia.
>>716053417>JCB is second placeWow, is that from the Asia market alone, not even including China?
>>716053614I've been looking at banks on my country and every single of them uses Visa for your card.
Not sure if I can have an alternative.
>>7160535172% is still huge, that's more than $200 million which pays a lot of bills. you disgusting commies just want to spread poverty and get everyone on your miserable level. but you will fail.
>>716029193>"2....more....weeks!"
>>716053663Retards who are coping and in 50 layers of self denial are the primary targets of all internet bullying. I reply to you idiots because you're so obviously lying about your actual feelings and intentions it's comical. I also obviously don't like you trying to normalise Pedo shit in both anime and videogame culture.
You are not only arguing that the porn you consume isn't related to your sexuality you are also arguing that your sexual orientation doesn't exist while you're a virgin.
>>716029308Payment proccessors should have zero say in content policy
You are simply wiring my money
Fuck off
>>716037070Who fuckin cares? I don't care whose "side" it supposedly supports, I'm not gonna act against my own interest. If Satan Master of All Evil himself appeared and endorsed breathing oxygen, I wouldn't suddenly asphyxiate myself just to spite him personally. That's fucking retarded.
I like jacking off in my private moments, I like naked pictures, there's nothing wrong with that, and nothing anyone (anyone) does or likes or supports will ever change that.
Basically this.
>Be bank
>Have peoples money
>Work by making sure peoples money from account A goes to account B, hold money in relative safety, amongst other things like lending money.
>Because of this, set up some rules because people and scammers try to do shady shit with your services, and Bank doesn't like that
>Now, be porngame dev/dev with legal and moraly questionable content, licenses, and digital products
>Generally there is nothing wrong or directly harmful with what you sell, just perverted shit
>This still upsets the bank for several reasons (some pretty obscure).
>Blockade people from putting money into devs account because what they do is considerated as "shady" to the bank.
>Bank also reaches large game distribuitor and asks them to ban these kinds of things since they will block peoples money trying to do this shit, so it means that publisher will get no money from publishing these games.
>Publisher now has to take down the games because they make no money by this (Its either this or find another bank, and they aren't making enough money with the incest porn games to risk finding another bank)
>Dev can't sell game anymore
>This means that Bank can tell publisher what shit not to sell
>This means that Bank has some direct control over a degree of censorship on the game market
>People gets pissed because now if Bank decides to change their rules, they might be able to ban other kinds of games if they feel like it. At least until they piss off the publishes, devs and clients enough that they look for workarounds to this.
>>716053913I think that only from Japan, and probably only from some certain sector
JCB is rumored to be higher than what this graph shows (only 20%)
>>716053871No, you're the reason there's a target on that type of anime in the first place. If pedos weren't running rampant and normalising their shit then you wouldn't be attracting the eye of people who are worried about media normalising extreme sexual deviance. Because of weebs who keep talking about how much they want to fuck cartoon kids there's a suspicion on all moeshit.
>>716029024 (OP)I generate my nsfw stuff with AI sloppa
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>>716054235Morality shouldn't enter into a bank's decisions. Move money back and forth and shut the fuck up. Stay in your lane. Let the market decide if I should beat my meat to puppies fucking human infants to death or whatever, it's none of your fucking business.
Of course it doesn't work that way but it should.
>>716054235>>Bank also reaches large game distribuitor and asks them to ban these kinds of things since they will block peoples money trying to do this shitit's not just banks that block shit. the credit card pressures any "acquirers" (i.e. anyone processing payments with their cards) into doing their dirty work and clamping down on merchants (stores like steam and individuals)
the credit card companies are judge, jury, and executioner (they give their blessing to monitoring companies that acquirers are forced to use de facto to monitor merchant platforms for compliance with card companies' demands)
>>716054434And don't forget the idiots going outside of 4chan with their faggotry, the number of retards with anime avatars getting into political arguments in any comments section was the first step to exposure of the wrong types.
>>716029024 (OP)big payment > your govt
>>716052460Ok but seriously. Weird how consuming violent media doesn't lead people in to becoming killers yet consuming porn does lead to people becoming sexual offenders and deviants. This is why I generally don't care when it comes to porn being banned and almost don't care about people bitching about sexy women in video games being taken out. It does seem like the more you get people in to sex, specially at a young age the more likely they are to develop problems. I think another thing too is
>>716046838 pointing out all the people who end up being pedos, but a lot of them seem like leftists who are generally ok with public sex and sexual freedom and porn. It seems the two correlate that people who consume porn and promote promiscuity end up being pedos. The deflection tactic only barely works because most people who hate sexual liberation also really hate pedos and hate sexual liberation because they see the pattern of it leading to pedophilia. It makes sense that they are claiming what they do isn't a slippery slope and trying to hide the truth so they can get the best of both worlds. This is why the slippery slope faclicy is a bit weird because it really effects one side more than the other.
>>716029024 (OP)Finance companies are blood-soaked monsters. It's almost funny how they think that by clamping down on porn they're improving their image. Someone should do an expose on how the finance sector launders the bloodied, dirty cash and assets of warlords and dictators and allows them to buy and sell all kinds of things more pernicious than anime intercourse vidya.
Fuckers.
>terminal contrarianism on display itt
>>716053835You didn't make any argument you retard, you made a bunch of false analogies. What you want to fuck is the problem here, what you want to fuck doesn't change before or after you commit the crime in real life, therefore it has nothing to do with shooting someone.
The fact that you are dodging this obvious point and are desperately trying to tie it to violence in videogames tells me you're in denial.
>>716036709Kek
They deserve it
>>716054068>2% is still hugeno it's not. Hell it's a reason why /v/ hates gays, feminsts and troons so much because they make less than 1% of the market yet everything needs to cater to them.
>>716038615It is nigger faggot
Nigger nigger nigger
>>716054157M8 I already made my case about the dichotomy between lolifags and anti-lolifags here
>>716046838 and while we don't have a great range of results the odds are not in your favor. If you have anything to prove that loli consumers are an actual threat to real children then by all means present your evidence but I doubt it because you grandstanding muppets never do. Believe me, I have nothing to fear from any of this because I don't live in a country where loli is illegal. By contrast you obsessive types are the ones that keep getting caught. Do whatever, I have no reason to give a fuck.
>>716054759>Weird how consuming violent media doesn't lead people in to becoming killers yet consuming porn does lead to people becoming sexual offendersThat's the fun part: It doesn't.
But it does gross some people out so that's the excuse they use to attack it and censor it. It's not for kids' safety it's for their own offended sensibilities full stop.
>>716038639Damn
A fragile ecosystem was destroyed...
When put it like that
It's okay Elon Musk will save us.
What happened and what does a credit card provider have to do with gaming?
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>>716031642>no matter how hard you kvetch you're not gonna stop making me support israelwhat the actual fuck are you niggers saying. are you even sentient
>>716042062Based green text
You have trash tastes
>>716029024 (OP)The only solution is to force them to offer their services to anyone and it's up to the government to go after anyone who uses it for illegal shit
>>716055093If someone with a lot of pull at a credit card decides they don't like something, whether it's legal or not where you are, they can stop vendors from selling that thing effectively killing it. That's it
>but how does that affect me?Probably doesn't. For now. But if it did, there wouldn't be a damn thing you could do about it as things stand. That should probably worry you. It's a lot of power for an opaque private institution to have over what is essentially freedom of expression.
>>716041284Mastercard/Visa has been censoring the right for decades now, and most of the left supported it.
>>716046525What a shit hole
Well deserved for ww2 and ww1
>>716055080Musk is a clown but it would be based if he actually does this.
>>716055004Your argument isnt grounded in anything besides pedos calling other people pedos to hide their trail, which is exactly what you're doing.
I'm arguing the obvious point that if someone tells me they are jerking off to cartoon gay sex they are almost certainly gay, if someone tells me they are jerking off to cartoon women they are straight and if you tell me you're jerking off to cartoon children then you're a pedo. You're twisting yourself into a pretzel to avoid this undeniable fact.
All of this is happening because western europeans and north americans are weak.
>>716055080>it's trashing their brand, actuallywtf I thought visa and mastercard were actually strengthening their brands through their brand protection programs? creditcardsisters what are we gonna do?
>>716055029>It doesn'tThen why do all the coomers and gooners want to fuck kids so much?
>>716029024 (OP)gamers will finally have to start respecting women
>>716053438NEWSFLASH NIGGER
BEING A PEDOPHILE IS NOT A CRIME IN ITSELF
What is criminal is molesting children and no children are being molested if a pedo jerks off to lolicon content. What do you think labeling people pedos even accomplishes? Again, the sexual attraction to children is in itself, not a fucking crime, because you cannot criminalize sexual preferences themselves. You can only criminalize actions, not thoughts or feelings.
>>716055502no, that's catholic priests and they aren't allowed to coom and goon
>>716055080I don't give two shits if it's another amerishart. It shouldn't have to rest solely on Japan's shoulders to save the world but here we are
>>716038639>libs and trannies want to make kids in to strippers and child prostitutes.>cons want to get rid of the very thing that turned them in to trannies in the first place.Oh noooooooo
anyways...
>>716055446you're actually still arguing that fiction is reality
an "obvious point" that it isn't and that is "undeniable fact"
>>716055601liking loli doesn't make you a pedo though. drawings and polygons are not people and never will be
you sound like a falseflagger
>>716055080if he can provide a decent alternative thats less worse than the others, im willing to use it
>>716055601You are arguing semantics
The vast majority of the world would have no problem with lining up pedophiles against a wall for a firing squad, regardless of whether they have actually raped children or not
>>716038639>>716055657>retarded D&C shillsconservatards are full of pedos (church, muslims, jews)
libshits are full of pedos (lgbtrannies)
both sides are teaming up to censor video games and they should be stopped
>>716055080equal chance of the euroshoppe processors even allowing anything fictional
but, good luck
>>716054434I'm going to repeat myself one more time.
These games and anime are not making people into sex predators. You are acting like they are. If they were, you'd be hearing about it by now as this subculture has existed for decades and has been alienated and scrutinized all the while. Instead all you have is fearmongering and moral panic. You're trying to paint yourself as a concerned individual, but all you're doing is repeating rhetoric that has been used to justify suppressing lighthearted, harmless games and media. I'd tell you about how I've always viewed anime girls as something distinct from 3DPD, especially fantastical ones, and how such a principle is ubiquitous in otaku circles, but I see it's futile. This is the last time I'm going to reply because it's clear by now you think I'm some menace to society because I like anime fanservice games and so there is no point in continuing. You hate me, so I'll hate you. My wife would flip out at you if you implied she was a simple child, by the way.
>>716055601>He finally fucking admits he's a pedoNow that we have cracked your infinite layers of cope and denial I can tell you to fuck off, stop corrupting anime and videogame culture and if I knew who you were you wouldn't be going anywhere near any family members because you have a predatory mental illness
>>716055446>which is exactly what you're doing.Lol, no I'm not, I said I'm into loli, which isn't a problem where I live. Anti-lolifags are the ones who are always the most insecure about this shit which is a basic red flag about your inherent guilt. Again, I have no reason to care, but reminding you morons that you are achieving nothing apart from creating a digital paper trail every time you post about this is at least kind of amusing.
>You're twisting yourself into a pretzel to avoid this undeniable fact.I actually never denied any of what you're claiming, what I'm denying is that there's any real evidence that lolicon consumers are a threat to real children and pointing out that you faggots never have any proof to back your claims up. Again, do you have anything to back yourself up, or are you just wasting people's time by shitposting? If you don't have anything worth responding to I won't waste my time any further. Good luck with your inevitable court hearing.
>>716055703That's besides the point, the actual fact is that niggersl ike
>>716055751 just want to criminalize victimless "thought crimes" and even kill people over them. It doesn't matter to them that lolicon stuff doesn't harm anyone, they just want to hurt and kill people that they find gross.
>>716055659Sexual preferences don't change between fiction and reality, you sound like an idiot every time you try to argue this so you are desperate to make it about violence and crime instead.
>>716054901we're talking about actual devs being unable to make a living from selling their games on steam because some big dick corporation decided so and average joe not being able to spend his hard earned money however the fuck he wants, we are talking about capitalism and free market here not culture war where left leaning capitalism and free market hating scumbags like you are forcing all types of woke DEI degeneracy into every AAA game, it's not like you have choice here if you want to play AAA slop you will be forced to chose type A/B body types and similar bullshit. but I'm not for the ban of lgbt content in media, if someone wants to make it go ahead and see how the market reacts, concord was woke as fuck and it bombed making snoy lose $400 million. I'd be more concerned if this ugly pozed shit actually sold in big numbers lmao
>>716055929I stated nothing about my own sexual preferences you strawmanning nigger. I just stated the fact that pedophilia itself, as in the attraction to children, is not a crime. What is a crime is acting on that sexual attraction but the attraction itself is not criminal anywhere in the west.
>>716056016>he thinks women are into dogfucking because they like twilight>he thinks women are into being abused and demeaned because they like 50 shades of greyyou're insane
>>716056016sexual preferences absolutely do change between fiction and reality, perhaps you should really get that checked
I'm not even that anon, just that you've been retarded for long enough now
>>716055446I like shooting people in videogames. Specifically, I like putting a shotgun against an enemy's chest and pulling the trigger and watching them ragdoll away from me. It gives me a sense of satisfaction and excitement.
Now would you like to guess how many people I've laid low, or plan to? This is where your petty emotional bullshit argument always falls apart. Maybe I have a violent streak, but I also have inhibition and logical thought. Most people do, which is why they can fantasize about abhorrent things and not immediately go do them like retarded monkeys.
Men fantasize about killing their boss but don't ever do it, women fantasize about rape stories, but don't want to be raped themselves, etc. You ALWAYS run to the "if you look at gay drawings you're gay" example, but if a guy looks at bara bondage buttsex doujins all day but never fucks a dude, it makes him a gay guy that never fucks men. Likewise, a pedophile that never fucks a child isn't doing anything illegal or harmful, pedophile or not. Making it the EXACT SAME case as me wanting to place the barrel of a shotgun firmly against your chest and pull the trigger.
Can you comprehend this?? Your "enemy" is not here. Go attack those proven to have weak impulse control, they're the ones that should pucker your asshole.
>>716056016M8, most people can engage in all kinds of sexual fantasies trough fiction that they would find very off putting in real life. Incest being a prime example, most people who jerk off to incest porn would not be willing to fuck their own relatives.
>>716055871>>716055946The admissions keep coming that you're all pedos but now the argument shifts to w-w-well I'm not a threat to actual children, I didn't do anything! anime doesn't make me any more likely to act on my impulses! I don't need to say anything more, the fact that you have that preference makes you dangerous and I don't want you normalising your shitty culture I'm already sick of seeing the crying emoji face everywhere as if its a benign flag about cute anime characters and not a pedo flag.
>>716056270The people on the moral crusade against loli stuff and "pedoshit" don't give a fuck about the distinction between non offending vs offending pedophiles. They just want to an acceptable targets whom to attack regardless of the actions of those people themselves. It is the psychology of having "morally righteous" cause via which to attack and (in their fantasies at least) even kill people over.
>>716056437>It is the psychology of having "morally righteous" cause via which to attack and (in their fantasies at least) even kill people over.what is this phenomenom called? piousness? sanctimony? moralism? help me out I'm looking for an insult here
>>716029024 (OP)Reminder for furfags still thinking they're immune to this shit that the christcuck behind Visa believes you're the exact same thing as zoophiles, so its only a matter of times when you end up in the same ditch as cunnysieurs are currently being dropped into. . .
>>716056437>non offending vs offending pedophilesNormal humans find the sexualization of children in any manner whatsoever subhuman. They are naturally repulsed at the thought. You guys here on 4chan(.)org can't understand that because you all here severely mentally-ill, and your brains are wired incorrectly unlike the vast majority of normal humanity.
>>716056613Moralfaggotry.
>>716056306Because all porn is indicative of either a desire to do something or watch something happen, I would assume the vast majority of people who consume incest porn are just there to watch a third party break a social taboo. Loli shit is also indicative of a desire to commit and act or watch it being committed, both of which make you a pedo.
>>716055080I jack it to cunny all the time on twitter.
He's an idiot, but I'll trust him this time
>>716056401>argument shiftThere was never a shift. The request was always for you to present evidence. Even the shitty screenshot collage is more than literally zero evidence. You failed. No one has any reason to take anything you say seriously.
>I don't want you normalising your shitty cultureToo bad, we've been here for decades and will be here long after you're gone. Take care and don't hurt too many kids now!
>>716056623>christcuck behind VisaThe people behind Visa are mega leftoids.
>>716056613Self righteousness, moral grandstanding, zealotry, crybullying. It goes by many names. End of the day it's all just insecure people looking to bash something and feel a sense of control
>>716056768>Normal humans find the sexualization of children in any manner whatsoever subhuman. Nice appeal to normalcy, nigger. Less than 200 years ago people even in Europe were marrying girls as young as 14 years old. Your moral standards are a very recent phenomena and stem largely from the christian feminists that pushed age of consent to be raised increasingly high over the past century. There is nothing inherently "normal" about being this up in arms towards pedophilia. Hell, if we go by historical standards, it was far, far more common to view homosexuality as far more reprehensible than a dude finding a teenager or even a preteen girl in the cusp of puberty to be attractive.
>They are naturally repulsed at the thought.Lol
Lmao even.
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>>716056768Weak deflection. And you're here too, chief. Guess you've got some problems to work through as well, not that I give as much of a fuck about others issues that don't affect me as you apparently do
>>716052561>1st they came for the coomers and I said nothing
>>716056768>Normal humans find the sexualization of children in any manner whatsoever subhuman. They are naturally repulsed at the thought.Said people don't dwell on cartoon porn of all things. You know what's more likely in this case? Repressed. Guilt.
>>716056890You have no means of qualifyig that there is such a distinction between these two categories of tabboo pornography and their consumers. You are basically just stating your gut feelings as fact.
>>716056270You're again shifting the argument to
>Well pedos didn't do anything illegal by consuming pornI don't care, nobody cares. I'm saying that the fictional porn they consume outs them and that you are pretending it doesn't. Nobody gives a shit wether you've commited a crime or not, they still don't want you anywhere near children and they don't want you normalising your hyper deviant subculture
>>716057213Good thing people jacking off to loli stuff or playing lolicon games isn't them demanding access to children, dipshit. What you are actually demanding is that these people should not be punished for thought crimes and all media that they themselves consume, create and are willing to pay for ought to be banned, even if the creation of that media harms fucking nobody.
>>716057458should be punished for thought crimes*
>>716056437>non offending vs offending pedophiles.You sound like every shitty liberal comedian claiming that everything they say is moot because "it's just a joke!" yet never makes fun of the other side and does everything they can to deflect anything wrong.
>>716057087This is the same goal post moving argument every pedo makes. Your content isn't about teenagers who have hit puberty having sex, sane people understand that our monkey brains get turned on by people who have hit puberty, lolicon isn't about that though. It's literally about kids who haven't hit puberty yet engaging in sexual acts. Even more so it's not content ment to tell a story or make a statement, it is ment purely to grant the person sexual gratification.
i hope all video games get banned
>>716057213I'm not shifting a goddamn thing, I'm stating FACT. Looking at porn doesn't out anyone for shit any more than looking at violence does. Why should anyone give a FUCK if you don't like the same kinky shit they do, if they aren't also victimizing anyone?? Quit crying over people's tastes and actually make yourself useful going after something that's actually harmful you stuck up faggot
Stop replying to it already. He's already stated he's just here to bait for (you)s.
>>716029193>shill from the land of gog and magog
>>716057582>Even more so it's not content ment to tell a story or make a statement, it is ment purely to grant the person sexual gratification.And? So fucking what? It is porn, that is the entire point of it.
You have no rational argument against lolicon media itself, unless you genuinely think that thought & feelings along with fictional stories & drawings ought to be criminalized. That is the precise reason why you try to conflate lolicon material to actual child abuse which no rational person think it is.
If I were to draw some tolder being fucked by some 40 year old ugly bastard, no actual human being would be harmed in the process. Your moralfagging over drawings is completely demented and basically just a cry to ban media you find gross.
>>716057582Why are you so obsessed with who people you don't like do or don't make fun of? Get a grip. This is stupid playground rumor level shit, you're not eight years old (I know this because your posting style doesn't give me a boner)
>>716057458No, I'm arguing for you people to fuck off and stop lying about the fact that you aren't pedos who are trying to normalise your behaviour. You will never be able to talk about pragmata on this site because it's basically an invitation for pedos to talk about how much they want to fuck children. It concerns me that younger people who aren't familiar with your subculture are adopting your ways of speaking and thinking while assuming it's innocent, normal weeb culture, because any time someone points out that it isn't you lie about what you are and run a disingenuous defence force for it.
If all of you kept to your own internet sewers, out of sight out of mind I wouldn't give a shit but you insist on broadcasting how much of a pedo you are to anyone and everyone.
>>716029024 (OP)for a while nothing (unless ur into porn games) until something comes along, perhaps a game from russia or china. Perhaps manhunt 3, could even be GTA6 where a game bring such controversy. Either scares elites or wh*te women to the point where master card steps in again to "be a hero". Honest could just be as simple as engaging with war and banning all games sales from said country. Either way Master Card women and so did the feminist protesters who rallied the credit card companies in the first place. Fun fact about the organization who got the porn removed they also tried the same with GTA 5 and got Target to pull copies off the shelf (pretty sure it was only in one country, Canada I think)
>>716057884Given that we're talking about dipshits that think exactly like this at Mastercard and how it affects the videogames available for us to play, this may be the only time in /v/ history that this discussion ISN'T completely off-topic.
>>716030943Both visa and master card should get split up into at least 3 separate companies. No single entity should be responsible for more than 15% of the nation's payment flow at any given moment.
>>716054157okay, here's is the intent. 3d girls are shit and i don't care about them, but its all in YOUR. Irl kids literally live rent free in your mind
>>716057582>Your content isn't about teenagers who have hit puberty having sex, sane people understand that our monkey brains get turned on by people who have hit puberty, lolicon isn't about that though.Nta but you realize lumping high schoolers with huge anime tits in with loli has made a lot of people indifferent to your crusade against loli right? I get treated the same by payment processors whether itโs loli or girls in school uniforms so I donโt care about actual pedos anymore
But will this effect me being able to spend my hard earned money on Femboy Futa House that releases on Steam this July 31st?
>>716057703You show me the porn history of anyone and I'll tell you what their preferences are, I'll be right 99% of the time. We both know what loli enthusiasts are into and I'm tired of this stupid dance you're doing around the obvious.
>>716058093>Stop talking about things I don't like>on 4chanPerhaps you'd find yourself more comfortable on plebbit or perhaps kiwi farms, moralfaggot.
>>716058281Not yet. Unless one of the characters looks too feminine and of questionable age. Doesn't matter if it's actually a guy if Sharon Smith tells Visa it's blurring a line
>>716055080THIS IS FARCICAL
didn't the patriot act deputized ALL payment processors for civil enforcement on terrorisms, money laundering, and sex traffickings?
There is more of a correlation between pedophilia and Super Smash Bros than there is between pedophilia and anime girls/lolis. Just throwing that out there.
>>716058401Pedos aren't welcome anywhere, you're a million times worse than bronies.
>>716058265People like him just parrot feminist standards regarding male sexuality and don't even know it lel.
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>>716058325>I'll tell you what their preferences areWhat you can't tell me is why that matters to you personally. If you don't like it fuck off. If they don't keep to themselves you can lynch them then, not before, and all this whining is pointless and stupid
>>716058563Again, do you even know where you are?
>>716058474All the characters in it look feminine, otherwise they wouldn't be futa or femboys....
>>716058561It's funny because it is true lmao.
>>716058265It's literally the pedos lumping the two together so they can fuck kids. There is a huge difference between teenagers and children. If you actually read the post the reply is to
>>716057087 who is saying lolicon is ok because people want to fuck teenagers.
>>716058642We are on 4chan good sir. We like to have wholesome fun here.
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>>716058561there is a better correlation between minecraft, roblox, and discord on the amountof pdfs.
but no. FOCUS ON THE ANIME AND ADULT GAMES
>>716058620You don't keep to yourself, that's the entire point. You can't talk about any game or anime with a little girl in it without the thread becoming a pedo jerk off session, I then see that behaviour being copied by kids who don't know the origin.
This degeneracy then attracts regulators who nuke everything once they look inside.
>>716058695Then I hope for your sake none of them are short.
>>716057884Why do you guys call all everything that upsets you bait? I'm sorry that you can't take hearing the truth said to you.
Honestly all porn is fucking horrible for you so I could not care less about it being banned. I wish I had good parents that monitored my internet and didn't go to a shitty liberal college that made it seem like having copious amounts of sex and porn was a good thing.
>>716058847But that post is about how your moral outrage over pedophilia is extremely recent phenomena in terms of overall western culture, it makes no mention of lolicon stuff at all. It is a refutation of the appeal to normalcy fallacy of the post it is responding to.
>>716058325anon, you can go back to the farms, the sharty, or reddit but not the site that used to have a loli board
>>716058929>Mention to a friend at work I'm playing ZZZ>They say it's a pedo game because it has underaged characters (non sexualised) in itI guess media just isn't allowed to have children in it.
>>716058642I'm glad we have finally progressed from you pretending you weren't a pedo to now proudly admitting it and pretending that 4chan is a site for pedos. Keep it up and we can finally bully you off the site.
>>716058847>It's literally the pedos lumping the two together so they can fuck kidsCool tell Visa etc to stop blacklisting Senran Kagura and similar games and Iโll believe you :)
>>716029265>They can do this outside national and international laws by simply collaborating to refuse service, as they are an effective duopoly.Isn't that called racketeering and is highly illegal?
>>716059034>Used toThat's a hint that you aren't welcome here anymore. Maybe you should use a forum where they still have a board for you.
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>>716058929>You don't keep to yourself, that's the entire pointSo you think I'm posting this from jail like Mad Thad? I'm not.
>b-but you talk about loli all the time on 4chanHA, if that bothers you you must REALLY enjoy being angry
>and kids copy your behaviorSir this is an 18+ website please don't let your children post here (and then get mad at me about it)
>>716059071I've been on this site for longer than you've been alive zoom zoom. And no point in even trying to deny your age, dipshit, the very fact that you think that you can bully anyone off an anonymous site like 4chan outs what a colossal newfaggot you actually are.
>>716053517considering A:accesible only by actively unlocking it, B:Social trauma of being discovered by others , C: the kind of mostly simple games 90% of them are, 2 % is not so bad and once we have more 3D ambitious games with actual gameplay like CI, SS, or WL the bigger that percentage will be. (I avoided to put the names just in case those fuckers are watching)
>>716059036Why the fuck do you think that is? Because gatchafags have spent the last 10 years screaming about how much they want to fuck anime children. Then suddenly you're confused when normal people link innocent depictions of children with degenerate pedos.
>>716029024 (OP)Are you a porn addicted gooner that pays for porn? Sure i guess this might be end of the line for you.
>>716059264>spent the last 10 years screaming about how much they want to fuck anime childrenThat's all? Amateurs.
>>716054759>Ok but seriously. Weird how consuming violent media doesn't lead people in to becoming killers yet consuming porn does lead to people becoming sexual offenders and deviants.Do you have any evidence to actually back up your beliefs? As in actual studies, preferably ones which doesn't have funding-based ties to political parties or similar groups?
>>716059071>lil newfag timmy doesn't recognize one of the oldest image macros from this siteZoomies can't help but to out themselves.
>>716030867I bet a radical feminist came up with that law, too
>>716059213There's a reason you pretend not to be a pedo every time this argument comes up. You are ashamed of it and it bothers you when people call you out on it. In my mind pedos are no different than the LGBTQ rainbow parade, the only reason you're here is you're not allowed anywhere else but there's also a reason the rainbow parade doesn't come here, they get triggered every 5 seconds and leave.
>>716057087>>716058642LMAO I love it here when the brain-fucked losers here go on about how loli isn't pedophilia nor has any correlation with real children at all, and then you have someone go on a spiel about how "Actually many men/women banged 12 year olds and found them attractive in 1890 so even if loli was pedo(WHICH IT TOTALLY ISN'T) it wouldn't matter since it's not all that abnormal" or be like this
>>716058642poster who just goes "actually we here on 4chan were always pedos and being a pedo is heckin BASED!". Really harms the other coping defenders' cases that loli isn't pedo nor doesn't attract pedos.
>>716056962What about Maestro/MasterCard?
>>716055080>just make your own payment processor bro
Why do people still fail to separate fiction from reality? Is it just an excuse to hold power over others and abuse any scrap of it they can gather from their trash heap lives?
>>716059731>he fell for the waifu battalionpill
>>716029024 (OP)My favorite part about this is how nobody is really willing to pinpoint blame at Valve at all with cooperating with this. As if Valve can't challenge this in court with their endless surplus amount of money. Let's be real, Valve actually endorses this behind the scene for their DRM "license" client.
>>716055080his AI will eventually destroy the world but I don't care (if some Ai will I prefer this one) I will support the Eloncracy and his wAIfus, HAIL TO THE TECHNOKING!
>>716059731is this the libyan dictactor ghaddafi whose people got liberated at last
>>716030908It's Christian fundies teaming up with the feminists to do this, not Jewish fundies
>>716059623>about how loli isn't pedophiliaSaid no one. What they actually said was pedophilia isn't child molestation. Which it's not, same way violent videogames are not murder.
>but your preferencesDo not fucking matter, no matter how much you repeat yourself. Fantasy is fantasy, thought is thought. People can like WHATEVER THEY WANT, but they cannot DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. Why can you not understand this?
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>>716059623does little witch nobeta, a game with a loli, violate steams TOS, american federal or state law? or other county's law where steam operates? Has it been banned?
or are you retarded? if not, you can go back to the farms or the sharty
>>716059631There was an old leak where payment processors were using Stefan Molyneux and the ""Alt-Right"" in general as unacceptable risk to process transactions for. I swear this was around 2016-2017. This shit has been going on for a long time, it's just that the people with platforms and/or power didn't care.
>>716031567This is the sort of 'why vote? What difference would my one vote do?' attitude which got us in this situation in the first place.
>>716053529I think having a third party control what you can and cannot buy is more communism than anything else.
>>716029273>Your honor, I'd like to sue Mastercard for taking my right away to buy overpriced incest hentai porn virtual novels on SteamI'd love to see this happen. It would be a circus show of what type of basement gremlins are ballsy (or autistic and retarded enough) to display themselves public to defend this.
>>716055080Don't create an alternative which nobody is going to use, that's already been done before several times, just use your influence to get that bill through the senate and force neutrality on them.
>>716059590>There's a reason you pretend not to be a pedo every time this argument comes upIf you actually go trough the argument we have had, I have not even once, made any statements regarding my sexual preferences.
You have just projected that onto me because you think it helps your argument.
My points have consitently been just that pedophilia itself is not a crime, while child molestation is (a perfectly sane stance you can take regardless of your sexual preferences) and that lolicon media harms nobody, and that calls to ban it are essentially calls for thought crimes.
What I oppose are moralfagging dipshits like you that think that you are some sort of authority on what is and isn't allowed to be talked about on this site, and that your moral crusades against "muh pedophiles" ought to be taken seriously at all.
This site is not some heaven for muh trad larping puritans, dipshit. It is 18+ website founded by a weeb, where porn is just one click away regardless what board you are browsing. Personally, I do not give a single fuck about what other people jerk off to as long as no living being is harmed in the production of the material itself, because unlike you, I can just ignore stuff I find distasteful myself, rather than go on retarded puritanical, pro cencorship screetches here, and act indignant when people do not bend the knee my moralfagging.
>tl;dr 4chan is not your safe space, moralfaggot.
>>716055838>and they should be stoppedOutside of whining on /v/, you're not going to do shit.
>>716059882>Said no oneSaid everyone in this thread till you had no response to my arguments and now all of a sudden the thread is flooded with open pedos arguing that yeah they are a pedo but they haven't commited a crime yet or that they are welcome here because 4chan is a pedo site.
The link between loli and pedophillia is obvious to everyone with a functioning brain.
I'm amazed there are people actually defending Visa and Mastercard right now. I know most of you are trolls, but who else can possibly benefit from having their rights and freedoms removed? Every time this question is posed, the only rebuttal seems to be
>errm you're a coomer!
Is it eunuchs supporting this?
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>>716029193this is the sweeny plan for the 1000 year epic reich
>>716060319It is zoomer moralfaggots for the most part.
>>716060319>I'm amazed there are people actually defending Visa and Mastercard right nowLeftoids have been defending them for decades because they censor their enemies. I still remember pre Elon buying Twitter days where they were using the argument that private companies can do what they want when it comes to censoring opinions on their platforms.
>>716060319its zoomers, espicially covoid retards
>>716059818>Visa's market capitalization is around $674 billion, while Mastercard's is around $519 billionsteam is a small fry compared to these gigajews
>>716033754Gabe only cared back when Steam's dominanance was uncertain. Ever since the early-mid 2010's, he hasn't had to do such. The only time you see Gabe is when he's out to shill a new Valve product like when he gave random people (see: staged) Steamdecks at their house in 2021.
>>716029024 (OP)Jews are mad they can't push porn and sodomy on people as easily
Christ is King
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>beats google
>beats paypal
>beats steam
>beats worst korea
>beats visa
>beasts mastercard
archiveGODS keep winning
>>716029265Who owns Visa and Mastercard is the Rotschilds
>>716059752Moralfags want to use the fiction you enage with as an excuse to attack you. It is that simple. They have stated it openly itt themselves.
>>716060563Bingo. Porn industry was created by the Jews. Never forget.
>>716060467That doesn't matter, Valve can still bring this to court.
>>716060176You're making a distinction nobody cares about besides pedos. I also don't actually call for the banning of any art, I am merely making the connection between people who consume it and a mentally ill, annoying, loud subgroup who is trying to normalise their preferences (for obvious fucking reasons because they don't want their sexual preference to be a crime).
If a bunch of pedos want to make pedo art and jerk off in peace on some dark corner of the internet then they should be free to do that as long as no real child is involved but you don't do that, you spread your shit everywhere and act like not being allowed on steam is an assault on your freedom.
>>716060316>Said everyone in this threadYour head is so far up your ass you probably really believe that. But the main point of everyone arguing with you has been that thought crime is bullshit and games should not be censored because some bitch finds them icky, and then goes on to use the excuse that said icky games might somehow maybe at some vague point in the future lead to little susie getting groped by someone who, by all rights, should be in their parents' basement playing Babysitting Cream 3
>>716030003Yep i'm sick of step bullshit
>>716058226they ganged up to kill american express international
>>716060618These people are anything but normal.
>>716052775>implying any actual true bona fide coomer is buying licenses on Steam rather than pirating their virtual novels or using sites like coomer party.
>all these fags ITT defending what amounts to censorship
Also, arguing to what degree your sexuality is influenced by porn is a slippery slope to admitting being gay is a choice.
>>716060731gaben doesn't have balls, sorry
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>>716060731what
>>716060541 said. Gabe is literally a brand for product releases at this point. Gabe will only do something if they have no choice like microsoft or chrome losing support.
>>716060913Censoring vile shit trannies use to groom kids is always good.
I laugh in F95zone, payment processors can't touch it if no one was paying in the first place.
>>716030445>do you think any other country would have gotten the OK to do what is going on in gaza?Dozens of countries are doing worse or have gotten away with worse since the start of this century.
>>716060176>This site is not some heaven for muh trad larping puritansNTA, but being against and repulsed by stuff like this has nothing to do with being "trad" nor is "puritan". The fact that you said that reveals that you guys unironically, truly think you're normal people. It's scary to think that when you guys go on about how you're "high-test" gigaChads for beating off 24/7 to the most degenerate vices, you seemingly, mostly aren't joking. You truly believe that you're the normal humans here. This is what happens when you're terminally-online and failed at life.
>>716060780>You're making a distinction nobody cares about besides pedos.Every sane person actually does give a fuck about the distinction between a person who has hurt real children, vs someone who just jerks off to drawings. The other is a criminal and the later is just a pervert.
>I also don't actually call for the banning of any art,You have implicitly called for it by supporting payment processors preventing people from spending their own money to buy media that these processors find disagreeable. The same logic that has been used here, could just as well be used to prevent people from buying media that depicts homosexual content. It is all moralfagging thought crime bs.
Also, 4chan is one of those "dark corners of the internet" where people are free to talk about their interests and the media they consume as they please.
>>716060893wouldn't you support that ONE game you really care about? if you're poor no need to reply.
>>716061059Where do you think people who upload shit on there get it retard?
>>716060319The contract just went out.
Last time I checked Fag95 didn't require a Mastercard
>>716061136>paying for over priced virtual novelsno
>>716061059>F95zoneThey already censor lolis and racism.
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>>716060992the trannies are all on discord, you dumb kwii zoomer
and discord is rumored to have an IPO
>>716061138None of my concern, shit just works.
>>716059818with all those years of banning JP games, equal chance they really had an internal "Mary" or they were complicity hiding these PP policies for half a decade
>>716061097There is no normalcy on this site because it is all anonymous posters from across the fucking world. Moralfags like you that try to enforce normalfag mindsets and sensibilities here are fucking tourists that do not understand the nature of this site.
>>716061113>Also, 4chan is one of those "dark corners of the internet" where people are free to talk about their interests and the media they consume as they please.He's well aware. That's why he comes here to tell us how mad he is, how dangerous we are, and wallow in thoughts of doing us harm. The irony of which is woefully lost on him.
So should I start buying physical gooner games like moeru chronicles on switch?
lol you guys spent years fighting a woke boogeyman and now an actual menace which is trying to destroy video gaming has appeared and can do nothing
>>716060913I donโt pay for porn but I get to read the doujins I read thanks to people buying and scanning them, so it is a bit personal for me. Even if it wasnโt, Iโm floored that payment processing jews stepped out of line like this; I canโt imagine my parents walking into a GameStop in ~2004 and getting their card denied while trying to buy a copy of GTA when the controversies about violent games were much more loud and present. Fucking stupid for a payment processor not to process a payment.
>>716037070While I agree pornography is a huge detriment to society, as it literally pacifies the male population into gooning cattle's. The heart of the issue is the Pandoras Box has already been opened. We've had a hundred years of women crying about their sexual freedom and the moment men started making porn without them it's become an issue. Any retard that cries christcuck is disingenuous moron at best or nefarious at worst. The entire goal is to give processors more control over what an individual can spend their money on, porn is just the "foot in the door" aspect until they can move to the bigger fish like guns.
>>716061358The youtube grifters can't even pump out a 100 videos about this, becuase it would just make them look like a straight up pedo.
>>716060792No, the main argument was initially that fiction and reality are completely different and that there was absolutely no link between the fictional porn you consume and your sexual preference. This then shifted to thought crime vs real crime, you're no longer arguing with me because I never said you should arrest anyone or ban anything for thought crimes. I said your culture is disgusting and you keep spreading it under this paper thin plausible deniability that crumbles as soon as anyone pushes on it. This hyper degenerate behaviour then becomes a beacon for overregulation
>>716060563>enemy of my enemy is my friendthat's not how the Bible works
>>716061387It seems you not been reading the news. Payment processors already censor people for wrong-think and firearm related shit.
>>716061358Wokoids are very open about wanting the censor their opposition though. And they've done is successfully in many cases using Visa/MasterCard like this leftoid feminists group is now.
>>716060319>Is it eunuchs supporting this?LOL why do you guys say shit like this all the time? If you all were actual men and had working penises, you'd be using said working penises to lay actual women irl, instead of jacking off all day while never touching one. Beating off all day to loli futa trap will NEVER make you the "Chad" male you cope that you are, loser.
>>716061113No, you treat a pedo the same regardless of if they have just been released from prison or if they have never committed a crime. A parent would never leave their kids in a room with either. I'm not saying you should arrest people who don't break the law but my attitude to all pedos outside arresting them is pretty much the same.
>>716061501I can name direct cases where banks will close a persons account because thery said antisemitic things (Ye the rapper, is just one example)
But gun bans is news to me.
>>716061387oh yeah i forgot advertisers and payment processors pressured youtube on guntubers content
>>716029679I hate gore and loli stuff, they legit should remove those from steam
>fetish shamingthey're too degen, they don't belong in the eyes of normal people, if someone wants to find that shit, they should buy it from moonrune website. It was about time these storefronts started removing trash from their stores, and that also includes AI slop that's started become problem in other storefronts as well
>>716061457>the main argument was initially that fiction and reality are completely differentIn the same way that thoughts in the mind and tangible physical action are completely different, perhaps. How many circles are you prepared to argue in over this? You clearly only see what you want to see, so I think you're a lost cause. I'm going to keep fighting against censorship and thought crime wherever I see it, and you can keep being mad at me for liking porn you find disturbing. It won't land me in jail, but hopefully my support can stop moneylenders from censoring entertainment
>>716061358the woke boogeyman was doing the same shit when they had power
>>716029024 (OP)>tfw your country has created a way to completely bypass mainstream payment processors>it's quick and easy to use>it's so good that the kikes want to shut it down because if it gets popular on the US mastercard and visa will actually have competitionheueheuehue
>>716061656But i don't like whores.
>>716061670Banks aren't payment processors
(are they?)
>>716029024 (OP)Burgerland, but the EU will likely act first, will need to put anti-censorship and other laws in place to stop these psychos from controlling what you can and can't do with your own money.
This is obviously unconstitutional and unacceptable, regardless of what stupid smut or whatever someone wants to buy.
Unless it breaks already established laws, like real weapons, drugs, etc, it's fine and completely within someone's rights.
>>716061656This post is the very picture of sexual security. Lol.
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>>716061656anon, i have standards and most women are whores like what
>>716061898 said
>>716061946The two seem inseparable to me but I guess they're not?
>>716061830>it's also controlled by the government so they'll block my account and freeze my assets if I'm a "bad boy"
>>716061732>I'm going to keep fighting against censorship and thought crime wherever I see itYou mean just post your thoughts on /v/?
>>716061946Payment processors can and have pressured banks to de platforming people.
>>716062072>>716061898And a chad like you can't find a pure girl because?
>>716061946I feel like it's semantic at that point. You are correct that Banks aren't PSPs, but will utilize PSPs to handle the aspects of payment processing for things like e-commerce.
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>>716062167And sign petitions yes!
I still think the best way to fight this is to accelerate. Report and push for anything and everything to be removed en masse that's even remotely questionable. Especially the mild stuff.
Nothing will change until normalfags get their comfort slop removed.
Look at all the parasites in this thread alone. Nothing will change otherwise.
>>716061113I never supported the master card or visa shit. I'm saying loli is tied to pedophillia and valve shouldnt have allowed loli shit on the platform in the first place, they never openly did anyway. You keep expanding the argument and assigning opinions to me that I never held.
If you want to buy porn games on some degenerate Japanese porn website then you should be free to do so, you aren't free to normalise it.
>>716060587Trustworthy post
>>716062270yeah crusader kings needs to go
>>716060541>like when he gave random people (see: staged) Steamdecks at their house in 2021.and he has some bimbo hoe sucking his balls while driving down the street in big ass car for fat people
>>716061668>A parent would never leave their kids in a room with eitherWhy are you bringing up this as if it mattered in a discourse regarding fucking VIDEO GAMES and payment processors preventing people from buying these VIDEO GAMES?
Again, pedos buying lolicon games in no way shape or form is them demanding access to real kids, so what the fuck is your point?
>>716062234So in other words being ineffective.
>>716061329It isn't, that's why the loli board was banned you fucking moron. If you understood this you would fuck off to wherever sill had one.
>>716062337You're so negative. No wonder you hate seeing other people happy about their naughty pictures.
>>716062332The point is everyone thinks pedos are disgusting so their media and culture shouldn't be on main stream platforms like steam. You're then pretending I'm saying they shouldn't be anywhere. Visa and MasterCard should not be allowed to blow commerce everywhere, steam, Nintendo and every major retailer should block loli shit.
>>716061774dingdingding
both sides want to censor the same things, you finally realized it anon
>>716062332Non-parents don't want to be around anyone who finds depictions of 9 year olds being gangbanged hot either. They find said humans disgusting and repulsive. Naturally so. Which is why they do everything they can to disassociate with them like removing them from their platforms like Steam is doing, denying them service like the payment processors are doing, etcetera.
>>716062392>that's why the loli board was bannedOh boy, moot being a faggot traitor has nothing to do with this. He doesn't dictate site culture any more than your punk ass does
>>716062492Again, nothing you're doing is effective. You're boasting "fighting against censorship" but what you're amounting to is walking back and forth in your bedroom ranting out loud how upset you are.
And then when someone points this out, you immediately start projecting how they're against you. Who said I hated you fapping to naughty pictures?
>>716061732The fact that you're a fucking pedo and you're the one arguing against visa and MasterCard isn't helping anything. Id prefer for you to fuck off and stop tainting the fight against corporate overreach with your desire to fuck kids.
>>716062659>>716062613Funny how the same "it's gross eww ban it" argument you are going can just as well be used against anything depicting homosexual shit or just pornography in general.
And mastercard & visa are already doing the same shit they did to steam to places like Pixiv etc where people just post art, so it is pretty fucking clear that this goes beyond what is going on with just steam.
>>716029890Because they're unreal engine 5 goyslop for pajeet shill consoomer paypigs with buyer's remorse.
>>716062270Especially once it starts getting to a point where publishers have to start following super strict guidelines to even have their games be sellable. I've had this idea of it getting so extreme that any violence against women in normal games like shooters or fighting games would be a no go, so if publishers had to either remove all existing female characters or take down all games they're currently selling that's when you'd see real change for people telling payment processors to fuck off.
>>716062394Wait... I'm a Thad?
>>716062337it seems it's enough to make you mad, maybe you dislike the way he is raising awareness, you little apprentice of dictator
>>716063026you need to go back anon, this place is not safe for you...
>716062272
>I don't support censorship, but I think Valve/Steam should ban anything that trips some roastie's sense of "pedophilia" and in the process sink the developers as being banned from Steam is equivalent to a death sentence for PC games (and you know this)
Pic related is what you support. Neptunia, Gal*Gun, Senran Kagura, Dungeon Travelers, all of it would be or has been banned from Steam despite being PG games because chucklefucks like you think they "normalize pedophilia" You are literally no different from these feminist orgs arguing sexualizing women perpetuate some "rape culture". The dev in this pic who had his game banned said it utterly dashed all his dreams of making it as an indie VN developer. This is what you support; a witch hunt against all otaku culture and derived works. You're pure scum and nothing but bad faith. I have seen this play out for years now and I know exactly what you're really arguing for. You can't fool me.
>>716062848I think gay culture is also disgusting, there's a reason they were all dying of aids. Heterosexual relationships are normal and required for the continuation of the species, you can make arguments about how porn may be harmful but you can't make any arguments about heterosexual culture itself being disgusting and it's spread warranting special attention.
We are on the same side regarding visa and MasterCard but I'm acknowledging being on the side of pedos is a losing battle every time so I'd rather you weren't on my side
>>716063236>Neptunia, Gal*Gun, Senran Kagura, Dungeon Travelers, all of it would be or has been banned from SteamGood riddance
>utterly dashed all his dreams of making it as an indie VN developerPoor guy can't make money off people's porn addiction boo hoo
>>716062767>You're boastingThis is the problem with children. They think everything is a contest with an immediate winner and loser. You can't even have a discussion without them treating it like a high stakes battlefield.
A single person doesn't have much power to force sudden change, in a legal sense. I can't go out and kick down the door of Visa and Mastercard like it's Hotline Miami. What I can do is support an idea and find like-minded individuals and hopefully together we can make our voices heard. It's happened before believe it or not
>>716063236anon, these trolls are nothing more than dick riders
>>7160601764chan isn't a safe haven for pedos either.
>>716063236Nah I only support getting banned from mainstream retailers when it slips into hentai or something you're obviously supposed to be jerking off to. the reason every other game with young girls is getting banned is because you guys are disgusting and your behaviour put a target on every single game with an anime art style.
>>716063174Yeah, I know...
But any actual social media sucks, except this one for some reason.
I'm just here to watch waifus and bullshit drama.
>>716063342>I'd rather you weren't on my sideIf it's any consolation we don't need people like you on my side in the first place, we have Yamada and Akamatsu for that. The west can fall into a sanctimonious slurry with all of you hypocrites and it won't matter a tinker's cuss because the people who fight for loli (and draw it) on it's home turf are now in government, so your concerns and intentions are effectively moot.
>>716029679Another game that slipped through the cracks is Mirage feathers an bullet hell after burner clone that due to the way the girls are drawn would absolutely be one of the games removed it's fun and made by an authentic dude
>>716063609Okay. What's the danger to them, exactly?
>>716063713>fight for loli (and draw it) on it's home turf are now in governmentThat's why a far right party anti porn party is rising rapidly kek. Japs hate you, no different from anybody else.
>>716063713I don't care what Japan does, i don't live there and I'm not japanese, they have a completely different moral structure to the west. You're speaking in English and you're a pedo who is tainting the argument in my country and my culture.
>>716063978I also speak English. Shut up, faggot, you speak for no one.
>>716063958The ones who got into the House of Councilors are the ones fighting for protecting freedom of speech in manga and anime, moron, don't talk about shit you know nothing about.
>>716063978I really don't care what a santimonious hypocrite has to say on the subject of culture, you have no real morals or values so don't waste my time with your nonsense.
>m-m-m-muh pedo le bad
>muh protect le children
Holy shit am i on reddit? Or this whole mastercard bs attracted shit ton of braindead tourists. I swear on normal threads anyone barely even complains about loli besides few trolls baiting yous or some actual retards
>>716064161>Pedo wants to argue about moralityWhat a joke, you're the same group who was calling me a pedo for noticing you were pedos, now there's 50 of you openly admitting I was right.
>>716064081You're a brown ESL SEA macaco who will speak Chinese 5 years from now.
>>716064272Like I said, your words have no substance, everything you've said in the thread has been in bad faith and you've brought nothing but conjecture and lies. No one cares what you think and you have no power over that which you hate. Deal with it or fuck off.
>>716064272You're a fool who will latch onto anything as an excuse to gain moral high ground. You argue in bad faith in order to fellate your own moral superiority while hypocritically wishing harm upon others regardless of their deeds. The vile spirit of the witch hunt
>>716052973>NOBODY I HAVE EVER MET USES A MASTERCARDBut they use payment processors that do
>>716064384>ESLHow dare you. I can almost guarantee you that I've spoken fluent, perfect English for longer than you've been alive.
>>716064617You bring harm upon yourself by being unable to contain your degeneracy in the same way flamboyant hypersexual gays and trannies bring the hate mob down on themselves.
>>716064272>>716064450And by fuck off I do mean from this website, your kind was never welcome here in the first place.
>>716064450>>716064617You people are the new trannies demanding access to places nobody wants you in.
>>716064860>You bring harm upon yourselfIt's none of your business what I do to myself. Same with the others who've had the displeasure of your interaction. Go sort yourself.
>>716064931See
>>716064861. We've been here for years if not decades, you were never welcome, feel free to leave whenever.
>>716064861You clearly do not know what site you are browsing, dipshit.
>>716056768 Sorry but unlike the previous figiurehead of UNICEF I don't wanna diddle real kids, only tap the megusaki cunny owner who already knows how to use her fuckholes to the fullest extent before she even had her first period and genuinely enjoys being used as a walking fleshlight.
Are you gonna try to also arrest everybody who played the No Russian level to completion as a potential mass murderer next?
>>716064975>JUST LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGSReddit is down the hall
>>716064861KEK, a fucking pedo telling someone they aren't welcome anywhere. The only reason you're here is you would be exiled if you were anywhere else and you aren't willing to hang with your own crew, you want to feel like you're normal.
>>716065026I've been posting loli here for almost 20 years, you are the one who doesn't know what this site is.
>>716064931I just want to be able to use my legal tender to acquire legal goods, legally. If you or certain financial institutions wish to make these things illegal, go through the courts. I don't believe in unelected oligarchs controlling my life via fiat
>>716064861Very likely hes from reddit they love those kind of dramas and do their self rightous bs cursade lmao, that tourist will fuck off soon im sure.