Thread 716362203

Star Trek: Gaming's Final Frontier...

Its continuing mission... to have no games.

I want a bridge crew CRPG like an Owlcat game with relationships and romances with aliens and you go around investigating stuff and do ship battles and like phaser fights and stuff.

I'm watching TNG as my first trek show, still in season 1 and it has its ups and downs but has been enjoyable other than Wesley most of the time. Any other the other shows recommended or to be avoided? I assume all recent stuff is trash.

>>716364729
TNG really doesn't start getting good until season 2, so look forward to that. Season 1 still has it's moments but there are a lot more stinkers

>>716364729
Its really good. TNG is top tier space opera, DS9 is slice of life anime with a big battle at the end, TOS is all white men and plenty of coombait, VOY is about being a good person, and ENT is about keeping the faith. Do not watch STD, trek and morty, or gay new worlds.

>>716362203 (OP)
I still play Star Trek Online. Love my Vor'cha. Enjoyed that Resurgence game okay, too. Strange New Worlds is worth watching, at least season 1, shame they reference STD once or twice, but it's thankfully mostly self contained. Loved Elite Force 1/2.
>>716363036
I hear Unknown Sector has something like that, early access and a solo dev, though. For me. I'd like an imsim game where you're on a station with a thinly established ceasefire and you can help them come to a peaceful solution or help one of the sides wipe out the other, with the canon peaceful ending being you joining the Federation ship as a civilian attache, having romanced the Caitian first officer with a couple hours of endgame dating and romance with them before it ends on a cliffhanger of the captain calling you both to the bridge after an impact, cutting to credits as the two of you reach the door. Then the sequel would start with the doors opening.

>>716364729
TOS > TNG = DS9 > VOY > ENT
Nothing else exists in terms of TV shows.
>but Nu Trek
Never heard of it.

>>716364729
TOS is good but has some really fucking terrible episodes like the space hippies, it's worth it if you have a decent tolerance.
TAS is a mixed bag, but it has the benefit of M'ress voiced by an incredibly horny Uhura, which makes it well worth it. Also, Mudd's shenanigans are great fun.
TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT are all worth watching all the way through, quality deteriorates over time but overall it's still a million times better than anything currently airing.
STD is literally the second worst scifi show I have ever watched in my entire life, and is only beaten out by Galactic 1980 which should be a war crime to force someone to watch. Absolute shame the Crossfield class was wasted on this show, fucking beautiful design.
SNW is exponentially better than STD, but that's not very high praise. Lower than TAS but bearable if you can ignore the occasional STD reference, which even they seem to know not to do.
Lower Decks is literally Rick & Morty, total shit, good porn of thr grizzled caitian doctor though, above STD but below SNW, maybe it got better after the first season but I just couldn't watch anymore.
Picard season 1&2 are atrocious, 3 and after course corrected for fanservice and are actually quite good.
Section 31 is an abomination unto God.
Only the TOS-era movies are worth watching, that's 1/TMP through 6, Generations and everything after is shit. The only cool part of Generations is seeing the Ent-D saucer be destroyed. There are no cool parts in any of the movies after. The JJ movies are absolute shit, but nothing is as bad movir-wise as Nemesis, which is utterly fucking embarassing.

>>716365967
>ENT cancelled just as they were about to add Combs to the ENT crew
It's not fucking FAIR.

>>716362203 (OP)
I think it's had more good vidya than any other TV-based scifi.

>>716366727
An SG-1 game would be kino
>hey go shoot these aliens with P90s

>>716364729
TOS is the most 60s sci-fi show you'll ever see, for good or bad. TAS is the Saturday morning cartoon version of TOS, also for good or bad.
DS9 is a secondary show where TNG was still running so they were able to do stuff they couldn't do with TNG.
VOY is TNG but every competent writer is busy with DS9.
ENT is VOY but every competent writer just straight up quit so now the showrunners are double-dipping phoning in the episode scripts.

>>716364729
watch everything up to and including Enterprise and nothing else. it's that shrimple. the "recent stuff" is not trek.

>>716364729
TNG and DS9 are both really good. VOY is uneven, some good parts but mostly mediocre and relying on crutches by the end.

You guys are really underselling how good TOS is.
>it's the most 60s thing ever
It's one of the most well-written television shows of all time at its best. The first season is peerless in Star Trek and consider it's the first one ever, it really is the most remarkable achievement of the franchise. The first half of S2 is great then Gene Coon leaves as showrunner and the network starts meddling more. S3 is a network meddle fest but still has a few good episodes amidst the pure camp.

But if you watch it, in my opinion you'll see Star Trek at its highest highs in terms of writing and acting and proof of concept. You'll also notice that a lot of the pop culture axioms regarding the show are pure fiction, like the idea of Kirk being this wild cowboy ladies man -- he is the perfect captain, a calculating professional who puts his duty first at every turn. It's beyond "worth watching;" it's Star Trek.

>>716367185
ENT is worth it for the hick guy, quantum leap captain, the beagle, and jeffrey combs.

>>716368137
S3 only happened because of fan demand after it was canceled at S2, it's also the only reason we still know about Star Trek because S3 allowed it to pass the episode threshold for syndication

>>716367512
I started going back through TNG, and while I agree it's good, it also suffers from some really bad writing most of the time.

>>716368518
I'm still mad Roddenberry wasted the S2 finale trying to launch the pilot for a much worse show

>>716364729
DS9 is my favorite but that is subjective, some people don't like the direction it took Trek in. I would say TNG and DS9 are peak Star Trek. TOS is worth watching but you may or may not be able to deal with it, it's very dated. The TOS movies are definitely worth watching, but I'd say just star with Wrath of Khan (watch the first movie later on, it's divisive). VOY is TNG but way shittier, however it has some good characters, mostly The Doctor. It's worth watching at least once and you may come to enjoy it in spite of its flaws. ENT is much the same, but its final season actually started getting good (reminds me of Stargate Universe in that respect). No series made after that is worth watching. All of the TNG movies are shitty in their own way, I would recommend watching Generations and First Contact, but that's all. Don't watch any of the reboot movies or TV series, they're awful.

>>716368593
I'm still mad Roddenberry bilked Alexander Courage out of half his royalties for the TOS theme by writing lyrics he never intended to set to the music

>>716368137
yeah s1 and half of s2 is the best trek ever made. ultra rare type of show that starts off fucking PERFECT.

>>716368191
>quantum leap captain
yeah I guess if you like to yell at the screen. he's a SHIT captain

>>716369748
Which vault is this set in?

>>716369831
NX01

>>716368137
Oh I know the 60s had some great television and Trek was part of it, the "for good or bad" is mostly referring to its visuals. It was expensive to make at the time, and all that budget with the tech of 60s TV special effects gave them pastel coloured playdough sets and giant styrofoam dildos. It's just the nature of the time period.

>>716369910
The Blu-Ray redid the special effects and they're not too bad without being so jarring it takes you out of it.

I just finished TNG. Do I go right to DS9 or try something like Stargate?

>>716371441
TNG did as well.

Seems insane the rights owner didnt hire the ftl devs to make a star trek version. Different events for different shows

>>716368886

>DS9 is my favorite

NOW HERE IS A MAN WITH TASTE

>>716371472
DS9, VOY, SG-1, Atlantis.

>>716371472
Alternate episodes of DS9, Stargate, and Babylon 5. Appreciate both DS9 and B5 for what they are because they're both great.

DS9 best

>>716371945
>when you see your paycheque after working half a day a week because the writers ran out of ideas for you

>>716371472

DS9 spends its first season trying too hard to be TNG (much like TNG initially tried too hard to be TOS), but it's nowhere near as rough as TNG's early seasons and ends up with what I feel is the most well developed cast of characters in all of Trek. Also, fuck Stargate. Watch Farscape if you're going to jump sci-fi franchises.

I love DS9 but a lot of its appeal is the unfolding serialized story that plays out between the episodes and now that I've seen it about 10 times, it's starting to become one of the weaker "rewatch" Trek shows. I think TOS, TNG, and VOY being largely episodic helps kind of keep them fresh for repeat viewings.
ENT is the most serialized Trek show ever so it really suffers from it.

>get The Fallen off Internet Archive
>doesn't work for some reason
>nothing to suggest how to fix it
Damn shame. Someone went well out of their way to make the notoriously dodgy TNG A Final Unity work on modern machines and put it on IA but I guess The Fallen just wasn't popular enough for the same treatment.

>>716371945

Apparently Marc Alaimo was completely obsessed with Nana Visitor behind the scenes and constantly pushed for a relationship between Kira and Dukat.

>>716372128
>a lot of its appeal is the unfolding serialized story
no it isn't.

>>716372182
yeah but instead we got the terrible comfort women episode

>>716372080
>Also, fuck Stargate. Watch Farscape if you're going to jump sci-fi franchises.
Farscape falls apart very quickly. I revisited it recently and it doesn't hold up that well, the deeper into it you get, the worse it is. Stargate starts out weak but gets good by the end of the first season, and stays good up until the end of the Anubis storyline. Then you can jump to Atlantis, which also starts weak, but gets better and better for the five seasons that it was on. Also, you should skip Farscape and move to the superior sci-fi show: Lexx.

>>716372176
try this
https://collectionchamber.blogspot.com/2020/06/star-trek-deep-space-9-fallen.html?m=1

>>716372128
DS9 barely has a "serialized story" until the final season. The appeal is the character focused stories.

>>716372256
>no it isn't.
Well I guess different things appeal to different people brotherman

>frogposter
>denies the objective truth that DS9 gained immense popularity in the years after it was finished due to DVD box sets and internet streaming allowing people to view it in its intended order, something TV studios were unwilling to do because they didn't care once it was on repeat
>even Nana Visitor has commented on it
Same as it ever was

>>716372423
>DS9 barely has a "serialized story" until the final season.
The serialized story starts the moment The Dominion is mentioned. Arguably it starts in The Emissary at the introduction of the Prophets. It definitely starts way before the final season.

>>716372456
"you can watch it in order and see a story unfold" is not the MAIN APPEAL of the show you fucking mongoloid

>>716372456
DS9 struggled with timeslot issues. You never knew when the fuckers were going to put it on. I first saw it in the middle of the day on a Saturday after I finished watching my cartoons.
>>716372540
Most episodes don't even deal with either The Dominion or The Prophets. A serialized story has continual progression from episode-to-episode. That shit was just a backdrop for the majority of the series, which was occasionally touched upon. Most episodes were self-contained character dramas.

>>716372423
>start watching DS9 out of order
>who are the Dominion
>what's a Changeling
>are the Klingons at war with the Federation or not
>why is a tailor an important minor character
>is Dukat one of the good guys or not
>why is Nog in a Starfleet uniform he's just a side character's kid

>>716372646
See >>716372669
You're just arguing semantics and you're still wrong.

>>716372386
>download link is just "download" in a different colour halfway down the page that's 60% review and 40% comments
wew lad

But it actually loads and plays so thanks, anon. You the real MVP.

>>716373561
I didn't test it but I was hoping it would work. Let us know if it's any good.

That Telltale like game that came out was pretty good.

Come to /tv/, we talk trek every day. Were watching VOY now

>>716374069
>come to /tv/ and get banned for making fun of a nu trek cartoonfag
nah

So dignified

go back and talk about your tv show on reddi/tv/

>>716371472
>>716371895
I second this Anon.
>>716372374
You might as well recommend fucking Doctor Who. At least keep to the comedy genre and go with Red Dwarf.

>>716368886
SGU was absolute shit the ENTIRE TIME. And I even watched the webisode shorts because I loved SG-1 and SGA that much.

>>716372176
>The player can choose to play through the entire game as either Captain Benjamin Sisko, Major Kira Nerys or Lt. Commander Worf
no smiley no play

>>716364729
engagement bot post

>>716375687
look at him go
he's doing his best

>>716376847
>play as Sisko
>have to make John Connor write a history report
>have to visit Aaron Stampler in prison after he gets raped in the shower by ABs

>>716376963
>press X to scream "It's REEEAL"
>press Y to scream "I CREATED IT"

>>716377017
kek

>>716364729
>>716365240
Prodigy is all right though.

>>716366134
>absolute shame the Crossfield class was wasted on this show, fucking beautiful design.
Funnily, a ship very similar to the Crossfield got yeeted in Best of Both Worlds. It could retroactively had been a Crossfield refit.

early seasons VOY is rough and it has plenty of plotholes throughout the rest
best intro though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtVXAugaSm0

IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD
GETTIN' FROM THERE TO HERE

>>716366254
Enterprise has got to be one of the biggest blue balls in television for me
>No Shran regular
>No mirror universe arc were were get to see non-stop Constitution kino
>No Earth Romulan War headed by Masao Okazaki as he slowly wormed up the ranks through the TOS remaster

>>716378818
the mirror episode didn't have any prime characters either like what is even the point? thats the fun part. it seriously was blue balls

>Trek back in production for YEARS
>still no new starship combat game
Why does Paramount hate money?

>>716377928
It makes sense, if I recall correctly both that ship and the Crossfield were based on the cancelled '70s "Phase II" sequel attempt that never got off the ground.

>>716378818
>>716379151
The mirror universe episode exists to be the real ending to the show. It's a shame that it never got a proper finale, but I'm happy that it didn't end on a sour note.
Imagine if they did some kind of TNG corssover... haha... who'd be stupid enough to try that?

>>716378085
The entire series should have been Year of Hell-esque. The ship being repeatedly ripped apart and stitched back together, lose wires, shorting LCARS panels, ripped carpet, with systems bartered for, stolen from, and killed to acquire. Janeway should have gone full Mirror and blown the borg to pieces to refit their transwarp tech to the Voyager. She should have come screaming through the device with all the fleet ships locking phasers on her until some ensign shouts "Oh my god, it's the Voyager, sir! Her ident code just came through!" and them warily attempting visual contact until a static-y Janeway appears onscreen.

>>716374237
We just had a 300+ post good trek thread thread with 0 trek & morty

>>716362203 (OP)
>tfw no way to play the Starfleet Command trilogy and the Armada duology on modern hardware

My rage could create a solar eruption that destroys a Dominion shipyard.

I was excited for Enterprise until I saw the titular ship was an upside-down Akira-class ship.

>>716380081
Im watching the show on antenna tv on H&I. Old hardware is cheap and effective. I should get an old system and that game.

Authentic Bajoran titties

>>716366134
I feel for everyone who designed a ship for Discovery, only to have it show up in Discovery.
At least the 23rd century Feddie ships. NuKlingons can fuck right out trying to retcon what their vessels looked like.

>>716380873
>discovery
You mean STD

>>716380873
Yeah the whole Klingon... casket... ship thing was utterly fucktarded. It's like what a 12 year old would come up with if prompted to think up a "dark star trek". I can't imagine the level of cringe actual fans in the studio felt watching those come to life.

>>716380873
You saying these aren't peak? Peak what I don't know but they are

>>716381168
peak 'i paid a company in korea to shit these out in blender for cheap, without them knowing what it was getting used for' aesthetic

>>716363036
This

>>716381168
STO's greatest contribution will always be mature Marshall Janeway.

>>716381524
Muscle tomboy Janeway is hot

>>716381664
That's how they do it in the Mirror Universe

>>716372374
I was rewatching Lexx and just kind of stopped in the middle of season 3. I fucking love the special episodes like Brigadoom, but on a whole the series just doesn't sink its fangs into me.

On the other hand, I've rewatched Farscape almost too many times. The only episode I ever even think of skipping in ironically the one where they encounter what it basically a Red Dwarf GELF in season 4 with the sex slave that turns out to be a spider that eats your strong emotion.

I tried so hard to like Star Trek Legacy and it had a lot going for it, but the mere fact that it was a rushed piece of shit that had absolute garbage controls for the XBOX, never mind the atrocious ones for PC, that its just not worth finishing or grinding through unless you're a hardcore fan. I wish they would do something like it again but actually go through and finish the product. Even a remaster from the ground up would be great just to salvage all the voice lines from every single one of the shows captains, but they all soun like they fell asleep halfway through.

I have cautious optimism about Starship Simulator.

>>716382148
>a Red Dwarf GELF
Polymorph, GELF is any Genetically Engineered Life Form (because everything in the series is ultimately from Earth and there's no aliens)

>>716381168
Giger's Bird of Prey and a Protoss Defiant?

>>716382331
Oh fuck you're right. Guess it's time for a Red Dwarf rewatch.

>>716382439
You should read the first two novels, from when Grant Naylor were still together. Rob and Doug each did their own follow up to finish the story but at least one of them sucks.

>>716364729
TOS, TNG, and DS9 are kino. Haven't watched Voyager and Enterprise yet, but I plan to.
>>716362203 (OP)
What are some /Allamaraine/ games?

>>716365967
The only thing I disagree with is putting TOS at the top. As someone who's watched all episodes of it, I would place it below TNG and DS9 as a close second to their tying for first, but after that point there's a big power gap between TOS and VOY, with VOY and ENT being close for dead last.

>>716382708
The first webm I ever saved.

>>716382963
Tuvok was one of the few good characters in Voyager. Him and the doctor were the best.

>>716383153
I wish the transition from this Bashir to sad, genetic supergod Bashir was smoother

>>716382963
Unfathomably based.

>>716383254
he was only ever sad cuz no pussy

>>716382963
>black actor playing stoic, serious character is actually the goofiest member of the cast
Tuvok, Worf, Teal'c
What's up with that?

>>716383395
>goofiest member of the cast
>Tuvok
Brother, you've forgotten someone.

>>716374069
Damn I was browsing this thread half asleep and thinking
>this is unusually good for a /trek/ thread
until I read your post and realized I wasn't on /tv/
No wonder this thread has been pleasant to read.

>>716368886
I enjoyed VOY way more than DS9, as DS9 has a few great characters (Bashir, Jedzia, Quark, Dukat and Garak) but a ton of awful characters like Sisko, Kira, Jake, Odo (depending on the episode if he isn't just a simp). DS9s story arcs are also mid as fuck, aside from the Dominion War. I fucking hate the retarded Bajor plotlines, faith shit and of course Sisko being King Nigger. Pic very fucking related is the reason I place VOY > DS9

VOY suffers more from inconsistent writing, especially for Janeway, but Tom, EMH, 7of9 and Harry are really great. Fuck Chakotay and his retarded Indian bullshit stories tho.

>>716383760
>lists Jadzia as a great DS9 character

>>716383760
dude
my brain is fucking cooked
I opened up this image, looked at the dude at the bottom, immediately thought "ah, CJ from grove street mod" and closed it thinking that was completely normal for a solid five seconds before getting mental whiplash and opening it again

>>716383887
Jadzia was fun and being Worfs whore was great.

>>716383941
It wasn't just Worf, bro.

>>716364729
>other than Wesley
Man he gets so much shit. I feel sorry for Will

>>716383760
>forgetting worst character
My favorite part of DS9 was when Keiko was possessed by a pah'wraith, the literal embodiment of anger and rage, and Miles IMMEDIATELY clocks it as not her because she's treating him too nice.

>>716383941
jadzia was annoying as fuck and not even that attractive. Ezri was a massive upgrade.

>>716383996
Wil Wheaton turned into a different type of insufferable prick so don't

>>716384036
>TNG holdover character
Why did they make Miles O'Brien suffer so much and gain so little?

>>716384098
Ezris only forgiving trait was having dick-sucking lips and that's it - she was a massive downgrade.

>>716383996
He 100% deserves it for choking on Kurtzmann's cock in order to get his little interview cuck show for Picard. He's the definition of cringe left millennial. The only break I'll ever give him is that he used his obnoxiousness well in Eureka and I enjoyed his character for once.

>>716384198
Karma for killing all those spoonh- er, Cardassians.

>>716384036
>The episode where everyone has Betazoid sex pheromones
>Miles and Keiko are so comically annoyed at each other you think someone is off about their relationship too
>Nope, they're just like that
The possession episode makes that episode even funnier in retrospect
>>716384198
To be fair he became one of the most important enlisted men in Federation history and then landed a comfy teaching job back on Earth
Miles endured so the Federation endured, amen

>>716383760
I just found Jadzia so boring
She's a person made up of a dozen people and somehow the sum of her character is far less than its parts
It's like they added the Klingon stuff on to her to make her a little more interesting but she still just sucks (though at least in that case it might be because the Klingons she hangs out with are better)

Pulaski or Crusher?

>>716384636
Young Pulaski > Young Crusher
Cougar Crusher > Cougar Pulaski
Character-wise, Pulaski > Crusher. Only Dahtafags disagree.

>Joran was an unstable personality, in that he was prone to bouts of disproprotionate anger and rage
>he killed several people but it was because they were trying to remove his symbiont, which would kill him in turn, over what was basically a clerical error
>Jadzia comes to terms with the small portion of him that exists inside Dax and accepts him into the greater whole
>every time he shows up after that he's depicted as a cold, clinical and creepy sociopath who wants to kill Jadzia and offers lessons on Being A Good Murderer to Ezri
How do you fuck up this badly

>>716372182
Dukat was a great villain because Alaimo played him 100% as someone who thought they were the hero, at least up to the last season went the whole show went to shit. It's rare to see a bad guy who thinks he's the good guy not being played as an antihero but just as a genuine villain with his own interests and motives.
Civil Defense is the best episode of any Trek show.

i just watched that one where Dax was gonna go awol for 60 years to have a baby with an incorporeal man she just met. it's UNBEARABLE

>>716372176
install nglide and then set the render to 3dfx
and on linux nglide works well with wine

>>716384207
>millenial
He was born in 1972, he's a decade too early to be a millenial

>>716384798
>let's do Brigadoon but Star Trek lol
>oh wait it was shit lmao
One of those episodes where someone needed to be told it was a stupid idea before it made it to scripting

>>716384740
>Only Dahtafags disagree.
This is the one thing I never understood because she genuinely becomes one of Datas best friends towards the end of S2. Her apprehension is warranted and being somewhat weary of artificial intelligence is good too, considering what AI did in the past (nobody seems to remember M5?). But she genuinely sees Data as a person and becomes arguably the same level of advocat as Picard. I guess calling Data a fucking Clanker with the hard R really turned people off.

>>716384936
For one they were trying a little too hard to replicate the Logical Spock and Emotional McCoy dynamic with her and Data, and for two Data as a whole suffers from the writers not fully understanding the position they've given him in Starfleet.

>>716384798
>Jadzia romance episodes
Why did they even bother

>>716383760
EMH carries Voyager, Harry sucks.

>>716385031
Maddox was unironically and unequivocally right about Data. He's a Toaster and I'm tired of pretending he's anything else.

>>716385089
A better question is why they bother with romance episodes in general. Ever since The Original Series they've been done poorly.

>>716384907
And yet, he is the perfect embodiment of those traits.

>>716385209
>racism

>>716385089
at least it had this

>>716385498
if the perfect embodiment is not even a millennial, then it becomes more apposite to call them gen x traits

>>716385883
They are most perfectly embodied by this singular person, but the vast majority of the populace that also holds those traits are actual millenials. He is a proto-millenial, not a gen x-er, at least in terms of how he presents himself to the world.

>>716385871
Jeffrey Coombs

>>716386056
he was too busy cooming to ever take revenge like he promised

>>716384936
Problem was that they were trying to do a McCoy/Spock relationship when Spock's role was split between Data, La Forge, and Picard and it came off as Pulaski bullying an autist instead of the good-natured banter between two pals speaking in code.

>>716386216
why do people just parrot this retarded take?

>>716384636
People shit on both, Crusher for basically doing nothing the whole show and Pulaski for being a cunt. But I pick Pulaski because I really like character development and that she had more of it in one season than most characters get at all.

I got like 4 episodes into TOS before flushing. every episode was the same shit "a crewmember has been replaced by an alien/robot doppleganger!"

I happened to later catch an episode where spock was fucking in heat or someshit and was trying to kill kirk. "you see these totally logical autistic jew aliens? well when they wanna get married and fuck tney become cuhraaaazy!"

TOS is fucking garbage

currently watching DS9, will any episode fuck me up as much as Inner Light did?

>>716386491
the visitor

>>716386485
oh and I also saw another random awful episode where they were in 1970's earth or some shit and radar from m.a.s.h. was leading a gang of hooligan children

you will never convince me that show isnt irredeemable garbage

>>716386491
I remember feeling awful during and after Time's Orphan

>>716365240
>VOY is about being a good person
Bold statement considering the shit Janeway gets up to regularly, to the point she comes off more like her evil terran version.

>>716364729
you will long for the days of wesley when alexander is introduced

>>716381168
The one on the left is just a temu cylon ship from BSG.

>>716384254
Miles "gas the cardies, race war now" O'Brian.

>>716386695
Alexander has good shit with Worf and Lwaxanna and himself
everything with Wesley is just awful

>>716387413
The trouble with Alexander is that his endings in both shows kind of ruin him completely
Wesley sucks obviously but a lot of that is from outside the show

>>716387539
the trouble with alexander is that he has NO HONOR

>>716382439
Second ship to me looks kind of like the Gorn ships in FASA.

>>716387539
>>716388754
He also dies like a bitch in the Klingon intro in STO.
lol!

>>716379692
THIS

>>716386626
Was talking about Tuvok, Tom, Neelix, 7, and the Doctor specifically

>>716383362
Hes extremely indian coded

>>716362203 (OP)
What the fuck
We could have had Star Trek instead of Starfield

>>716383450
The funny thing is Tom is right. He was in prison and knew the types.

>>716384741
Ezris a cute little manic pixie dream girl he can manipulate and she looks good in a bunny suit and fishnets

Jadzia is just a whore

>>716386016
Because during the early years of internet becoming popular, websites got Wil to do promtions or videos so they could seem geek-culture-savvy. Its part of how reddit became bigger than Fark, which was huge in 2004 but forgotten now.

>>716386491
They try to with Old Man Jake after Sisko gets stuck in subspace forever. Sisko comes back when Jake is 80 for an emotional Interstellar like "my daddy promised hed come back" scene but the whole time you cant get over the fact hes a black dad who left to go get cigarettes, its way funnier than they intended.

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>>716397912
They do it in SNW too, Doc has his kid stuck in a transporter buffer witb an incurable disease. After shenanigans with an intelligent nebula, he decides to let her go "for her own good", her becoming part of the nebula. Then she comes back a decade older and tells him he made the right choice to abandon his daughter and to go live life and make his own story.

more ST apus pls

>>716400965
I'll post some if you get started on making a Star Trek bridge crew CRPG, anon.

Deal?

>>716373962
It's alright. I would've preferred not being a fucking woman half the time but other than that it's a good format for Trek games.

If the Star Trek shows were better it would be more of a shame they haven’t made a good game, but if the entire series including NG, the only good shows are the reboot movies from 20xx

>>716400742
The real question is, which Starfleet officer tricked him into it.

>>716401335
They really, REALLY needed two paths split evenly between the two main characters with no swapping. Not letting you immerse yourself is like a cardinal sin of walking simulators.

>>716401701
Agreed.
>>716400965
here's my favorite

>>716402530
This one's good too

>>716402614
kek saved

>>716378727
ITS BEEN A LONG TIME
BUT MY TIME IS FINALLY HERE

>>716384198
NNNGGG

I unironically liked the star trek prequel series

>>716383996
don't, he's a complete cunt

>>716374069
No I got banned for a month for wishing Kurtzman dead

>>716403321
Here, a gift from me to you

>>716403808
KEK

>>716403261
While Ezri is a cute hows she compare to Grillka or Kira or Leeta?

>>716384312
wtf I can hear sound here? When did this start?

>>716404363
b8

How about a Papers Please kind of game where I send Bajorans to labor camps?

A Riker eating game?

post your favorite starship design

>>716409520
Vor'cha for life.

>>716409520
>>716410854
For me, it's the lad.

>>716411614
the movie design will always be my favorite for the Enterprise

>>716412185
Also a beauty but you just gotta love the OG.

Daedalus balls

>>716406225
Damar is one of the best characters in the entire Trek universe

>>716414123
Why is the neck so long and thin?

>>716415032
It's all about the motion of the ocean

>>716415105
Small craft advisory?

>>716414891
I bought picrel, was pretty decent for tiny mints.

>>716415694
WELL HELLOOOOOOO

>>716415694
>tfw Trek thread with no cartoonfags

>>716416147
Summoning the cartoonfags

>>716416506
TAS doesn't count, it's pure soul

>>716417108
what the fuck...

>Start watch TNG
>Start with Season 1
>Liked only The Klingon and Skin of Evil episodes
>Completely burnt out with the series

Is Season 2 worth watching? Should I just do what everyone recommends me to do and start with Season 3?

>>716417108
>>716417278
>>716417417
>>716417839
Am I remembering wrong or aren't they a mono-gendered all male species that grow in incubation chambers and are totally genetically engineered?

>>716418039
Season 2 sees a lot of improvement. There are some gems in there. A Matter of Honor is an all-timer.

>>716418112
you are correct

How did Cardassia benefit with Bajor occupation except having sex with Bajoran women?

>>716418039
Season 2 is a bit better but still rough. They're starting to get a better handle on the characters, but improvement is stunted due to a writers strike. Season 3 is generally when good TNG properly starts.

>>716418467
they strip mined their planet

>>716417108
>some unfunny black woman from early 2000s panel shows is now a main character in a Trek show

This is so bizarre.

>3 video game posts in a video game thread on a video game board
go back

>>716386491
Sons of Mogh

>>716418112
It's set in the 32nd century so it's not like that couldn't change after 800 years, especially since it's likely that the Jem'Hadar like the Vorta were engineered from an existing species. However, like everything about the far-future bullshit from STD, it'll just be a bunch of shit thrown at the screen because some guy backstage ran out of ideas, with no actual explanation for any of it.

>>716385871
Could you legit fuck in the Holodeck?

>>716417108
Is this from the Orville?

>>716419181
define "legit" but, yes

>>716419128
There won't be any of that and you know it. She's explicitly a fat black woman so they can do something like
>the Founders decided a female temperament was better suited to diplomacy
or some horrible on-the-nose line

>>716372176
>2025
>still not knowing about pcgamingwiki
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine_-_The_Fallen

redpill me on star trek online
I only ever saw TNG, DS9 and Voyager and the TNG movies

Is it worth it if I sincerely don't give two fucks about playing with other people

>>716379254
>Why does Paramount hate money?
They're hardly making any on their shitty nu-Trek shows, and therefore don't have extra to spend on vidya that could flop just as hard.

>>716420702
There's a lot of good story stuff featuring characters with their actors voice acting, just avoid the nu trek shit obviously

i have never played STO with anyone else lol

>>716420705
Paramount is so desperate that they are sell the streaming rights for the only Star Trek people want to Netflix.

>>716418467
The entire Cardassian Union is an effort to offset how resource poor Cardassia Prime is. Plus, you know, the obvious parallels to the Soviet Union where a bloated military with too much political power had grown to the point it needed ever more material to keep itself going lest the whole thing collapse under the weight of "remaining strong and independent".

I genuinely cannot see why people, outside of Robinson self inserting his faggotry and saying Garak is gay because he, the actor, wanted to fuck Siddig, would ever see this guy as a gaylord.
All his interactions with the crew, including Bashir, do not feel like they have any subtext to them whatsoever.
Cettainly im not the only one who feels that, right?

>>716417108
>Jem Hadar
You are just shitposting because it looks somewhat similar to one... right? Its actually just a different alien species... RIGHT?

>>716422616
Bro they had enough subtext that they had calls from network execs to tone it down.
Garak wasn't even gay anyway, he was pan (like Jadzia) and was mostly in it to manipulate the gullible young junior officer.

>>716422616
Anon, the mentally ill make no sense to normal people

>>716422616
before they ruined it by making them be related, I figured there was gay stuff between him and Enabren Tain. but with anyone else, no, there was absolutely nothing.

Nope, nothing so overtly homoerotic in their first meeting that would've caused an upset with the suits. I genuinely cannot see why anyone would interpret this scene that way.

When are they going to bring the Lyrans, Mirak, and Kzinti into the shows/movies?

>>716422616
>>716423270
Only their first interactions have this weird subtext and it's almost entirely in the performances, not the writing (beyond their very first meeting in which it could just be argued Garak was trying to make him uncomfortable).

>>716423524
Kzinti never because they're still owned by Niven.
The Mirak are just lawyer-friendly Kzinti. Them and the Lyrans are based on a setting that was outdated over a decade before the first ST:SC was released.

>Without revealing too much, Kurtzman explains that Giamatti's character "represents a tide that has swept across the world in a very profound and upsetting way," he continues. "I say this without taking a political stance. That is part of what it means to invite everybody into the tent. One of my favorite things about Star Trek is that it reaches across the aisle. People on all sides of the political spectrum love it for different reasons. That is something that we really wanted to hold true to here."
Wow, sounds... great.

>>716424025
>tripcode is a huge moron
Yes, idiot, they were told to tone it down. Not even Star Trek was going to get away with male/male homosexuality on prime time television in the 80s and 90s, even if it was never directly stated. DS9 still got a lot of flak for showing two women kissing. TNG wanted Frakes to kiss a guy and got told no before it even got to production.

>>716424419
So it's a thing from a single episode that the actors admits he inserted in himself and then it never happens again... and it's just gay shippers clinging to it like faggots, got it

glad we're on the same page

>>716378818
I didn't care for the mirror universe stuff
DS9 drove it into the ground

>>716424517
>writers were obviously going for it
>actor was obviously going for it
>prevented from doing it by the people who ran the show
>"uhm aktually this means I'M right"
No but it's cute you think so. Here's a last (You) to remind you you'll never prevent this from being real.

>>716424950
>confirming that you're one of said faggoty shippers
>posting cartoonshit
You might as well have spread your asscheeks homo

>>716424759
why are you acting like this thing that literally everyone says is some kind of hot take?

>>716422616
anon, for goodness sake, in his first appearance, back when he wasn't anything but just one off character for single episode, he introduces himself by fondling and getting to touchy with bashir while talking how he feels lonely and would like to be his friend. At the same time doctor making face like hes feeling bat'leth poking him in a back
>inb4 he was just trying to get intelligence
bullshit, nothing important happened yet during this episode, and even if, who the fuck is trying to infiltrate foreign aggency by acting like masive faggot

>>716425187
It makes me feel special and unique, separate from the sheeple.

>>716384745
It was bizarre to hear him turn up in Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood as one of the protags.

>>716426385
Wait until you see Damar trying to sell you wine

>>716426508
No fuckin' way.

>>716425187
I don't read star trek threads. I scan them for new pepes and will reply to one post that catches my eye.

>>716426719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfTaMzV4oFo

>>716427065
What an interesting surprise.

>>716386580
>>716386485
Pearls before swine defined

Starfleet issue uniform variants.